The Steve Dangle Podcast - The Steve Dangle Podcast - Apr 25, 2017 - Tomorrow

Episode Date: April 25, 2017

On this episode, the guys unwrap the season that was in Toronto, Round 2, the Sabres, Habs, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Panago Pizza presents S.T.P. The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam Wise. Yes we are. Yes we are. Gentlemen. Yeah. Hello. No.

Yep. I'm not giving you a hoot. I'm not giving you a holler. I think, I think this season deserves a... That's the sound of the police. It's good, man. it was pretty good and enthusiastic

yeah you know what you nailed that with the same enthusiasm that they did like I was singing the song you nailed it

with the enthusiasm of the Air Canada Centre when Marcus Johansson ended the Leafs season Steve why do you have to bring it there

I know why do you have to be like that you know I haven't been able to watch your half an hour odyssey on the

on the rapping of the Leafs season your four hour three part Lord of the Rings general. It's Peter Jackson Dangle. It's unbelievable because the game reaction itself is just shy of 20 minutes, but then I tacked on seven minutes of bonus footage from throughout the years.

And you guys love cringy footage of me from when I was 19. It's my favorite. And it's chock full of it. But I'm looking. I uploaded that video 18 hours ago. It's 27 minutes long, 36,000 views. Wow. It's absolutely unbelievable.

And there's a part in the video where I get a little emotional. And all day yesterday, people were tweeting at me going, oh, my God, when you got emotional, I got emotional. I'm like, that's 17 minutes in. Wow. That's 17 minutes into the video. See, they're watching. It's good.

Apparently, they're the best. Everyone, podcast listeners, people who watch the videos, you're the greatest. Bar none. Me too. Don't forget Iggy. He's also good. Since you, Peter Jackson, did, I would like to Michael Bay it and go, What a great freaking year, man.

Let's just focus on the explosively awesome year that we just had. Wait, you want to blow up the team? No. I can't blow it up. No, no. That's the M. Night Shyamalan. First we're going to get Austin Matthews and he's going to be like, and Mitch Martin's going to be like,

Michael, that's not a story. That's just a bunch of explosions. What's the difference? You know, it was a great season. It sucks that it ended that way, But it also didn't suck because here's the thing What's the thing? I mean, yeah, you wanted to go to game seven

Yeah, you want the Leafs to win the series Yeah However Five or six I think that's it Five or six games go to overtime You're gonna have When that happens

Especially a team like the Leafs Who are snakebitten in overtime You're going to have losses Like you can't go You can't expect to go to Two or three overtime games and not lose one of them So They lost

And they lost to a team that I think Quite frankly Overmatched them in the end However It wasn't the big gulf In between that people thought it was going to be It wasn't the sweep, it wasn't the caps in three That series could have gone either way

It was the definition of a Could have gone either way series Absolutely, the Leafs are doing, just so you know right now Press conference Kind of end of year stuff Austin Matthews has already said he's going to work on his He wants to work on his explosiveness for next year But he's not going to start skating for a little bit

He's going to take some time Hang out with his family And it's probably good He's played World Cup and then regular season And then playoffs It's a lot He's played about 100 games since he was drafted That's crazy

That's amazing Is it more than that? I don't know Okay, so it was 88 regular season and playoffs with the Leafs He got, I don't know how many exhibition games One or two And then World Cup?

Six World Cup? Well, because there was pre-tournament as well, and then there was... That's right, they had a pre-season to the pre-season, pre-season thing. When you play together, the season hasn't started, they're all cold in the summer, but play. Yeah, here you go. That's fine. So he basically, like, when you're freshly drafted, too, you basically don't get a summer. And it's, I don't know, your most important time to be working.

Yeah, you did rookie camp, which is like two weeks after getting drafted. and prior to getting drafted, there's the draft combine, and then there's the... Like, it's almost advantageous, I think, for draft-eligible players to play in Europe like Auston Matthews did, because the European hockey season, even if you make it all the way and win the championship,

ends usually in April. Steve, that's wrong. Is it? You're encouraging young Canadians to leave. You're right. And go make actual money. Well, there's a certain junior league here who's definitely not making any money

and definitely can't play their players. Hey, do you want $400,000 a year, or do you want this shiny $200 a day per diem, or whatever it is? That per diem is looking awful nice. It is looking pretty. How many trips to Burger King can I make? Hey, hey, do you want to chill in Zurich, or do you want to play for the Sudbury Wolves? I don't think this is a hard decision there, Johnny. Come to nickel country.

We have the world's largest nickel in Sudbury on Zurich. There's a bunch of people in Sudbury right now going, hey, dick. And fair enough, fair enough. I get family in Sudbury, by the way. I did not know that. Adam actually has a radio show in Sudbury. I do. Oh, are you guys syndicated?

We are syndicated in Sudbury. Sorry, I was making a point that I never ended up actually making. Their season ends in April, whereas Taylor Hall, I remember when he was with the Spitfires, he just didn't do any of the Combine testing because he'd finished playing and had a bunch of injuries less than a week before the Combine. And he's like, look, I'm Taylor Hall, man. You're either going to pick me first now or you're not. Yeah, but I'm going top five and it doesn't matter.

Yeah, I don't think this combine testing is going to make you pick Sagan above me or not. Like the NFL, it's like if you're first or second, it could cost you like a couple hundred grand, right? Whereas in the NHL, everybody gets the same contract. I'm not sure about that. Well, I mean, you can sign people to less, but... It's not the huge gap that it is in other sports. That's a $20 million contract to a guy that's never even gone to training camp, right? Right.

He can't do that. So the Leafs are, Brian Boyle has also said, I'm just trying to give you the Coles notes of the press conference. So Austin Matthews says he's absolutely exhausted. He says it's a real grind. And, well, yeah, you would hope he's exhausted. Brian Boyle has said he wants to come back, open to coming back. Not sure where everybody stands on the matter. And I'm sure that the Leafs don't fully know where they stand on the matter just quite yet.

I'd love him to come back. Lou Lamorello was just on stage saying, I'll pilot nothing. It's so fun. It's so fun. Like, okay, I've been, for some, I guess on WorldStarHipHop, they just have music videos, fights, and Russell Westbrook telling off the media. Yeah. And his press conferences and his answers are very short. So he says nothing with very few words.

Lou Lamorello says nothing with lots of words. Yeah. And it's really fun to watch. Because it'll be like I think they asked him They made the comparable Of course somebody made the comparable The Leafs need defense and the Hall for Larson trade

And Lou said Well it's impossible to gauge the market Because I've been through expansion years And things change And it's like well What do you say to that The one thing I got from the five minutes or so That we listened to before recording was

He emphasized the importance of Expansion And he's been through expansion before And I don't know Just something about Lou Lamorello when he speaks Makes me go, God, I'm so glad he's ours I'm so glad he's ours Like, Brian Burke was so fun

That was fun But The losing wasn't fun The losing wasn't fun But, like, I love Jim Benning Because he's not my GM Yeah, me too You know what I mean?

Me too I love him I like Tim Murray Not my GM Not my GM, not my problem No. Not the Pagoulas problem either anymore. No, and even the GMs of good teams who say all kinds of...

Like, John Tortorella had a great year. He had a great year. Still needs to shut up. But I don't care, he's not mine. You know, whereas Lou just has a big old pile of nothing. By the way, did you know that John Tortorella now is allowing his players to listen to whatever song they want before the games? Wait. Wait.

Was that not a thing? Apparently not. Apparently John is Adverse to newer types of music That's the rumor And he's more of a fan of Surprise, surprise Rock

From A bygone era Now me too I love rock from a bygone era I think a lot of us do But Between the Rangers And Blue Jackets

How much Emerson, Lake, and Palmer Do you think Brandon Dubinsky Has listened to I'm gonna play a song for you Called Jump Yeah And I want you to really listen To how great this song

it is a great song but you know can you imagine having a guy that's that controlling yeah you know

I would encourage you to look at while we're on the subject of the Blue Jackets very quickly I would encourage you to look at their record since the winning streak ended

oh is it bad? they're very average they're very very average they were like you think about it when they won they were like when they were winning

they had I think it was was it 25 what were they how many games they went to row. It was like 2016, but they were something like 25, 5, and 4. They were absolutely ridiculous. Nobody should have caught them.

Nobody should have caught them. The question after that little streak was, you can't maintain that. You obviously can't maintain that. But when you have a streak that big, that's all you need normally. No one should be able to close the gap, but the question was, they were certainly going to drop off. That was for certain. Yes. How much? Well, the answer was apparently quite a bit. A little bit. Minnesota, too. Oh, for sure. Can you believe

both those teams are gone? I can. I can. Thanks, Pierre. I can. I can! The reason I felt like... Because their PDO is unsustainable! I felt like they were... I think both of those teams going into the playoffs felt a bit fragile. They just felt like

they didn't... Whether or not they had the talent or not, and I'm not going to debate that right now uh you know whether that was luck high shooting percentage high save percentage because that's what you need to win is high shooting percentage and high save percentage jake jake allen too uh because the wild did the wild did sort of outplay the blues oh they they outchance them they wiped the floor with them and lost in five um doesn't make any sense like okay would you what would you feel better with like let's assume the preds beat the blues and the blues are out in round two, okay?

What would you be happier with? The performance the Leafs had in six games against Washington, or the performance the Blues had in five games against the Wild? See, if I were the Leafs, I'd be like, oh. Because...

Oh, if you had the record that the Blues had. Well, no, if the... Yeah, if this... Let's say the Leafs had beaten Washington. Yes. But they beat them the way that St. Louis beat them. Right. It'd be worrying.

It would be worrying. Now, if you're St. Louis right now, you're like, again, house money, man. We just traded Shattenkirk. That's unbelievable. We're in it, and we got to the second round. House money, baby. House money. And we changed our head coach.

Wow. And Jake Allen's back to form. Great. Whatever we get this year, great. Thumbs up. We're retooling. That's the way it is. Fine.

So I think the Blues are happy with it. But if I was the Leafs and the Leafs had done the same thing the Blues had done, I maybe wouldn't be so happy about it. The Blues got through with, like, Curtis Sanford in fewer games than the Caps got with Shattenkirk. It's unbelievable. Crazy, isn't it? The playoffs are stupid.

They are stupid. So let's talk about the end of this Caps-Leaf series. Obviously, Steve, you were there. Yeah. It was a lot of fun. A lot of fun. Man, when Austin Matthews scored, you must have just— What a pop.

Like, what a pop. There is nothing like that energy, right? Yeah. So the ACC gets flack for being a little bit of a morgue. Because the Leafs were a morgue. The team's a morgue. The arena's a morgue. It was fitting that the ACC was a morgue because the Leafs were a dead body for a very long time.

And it reanimated this year. And what the ACC fills with often is silent, nervous silence. Incredibly nervous silence that at any moment can equal any monster truck rally you've ever been to. The second the puck hit the stanchion I would love to see like a decibel reading From right when Riley dumped it in To the stanchion too One of the loudest pops I've ever heard

Maybe just behind the gold medal goal I'm serious Saskatchewan was pretty loud too One of the loudest pops I've ever heard And I kind of knew it was coming You felt it? I felt it and It was either late in the second or early in the third

Someone rang the puck around the boards And it took a stupid bounce off the stanchion Yes, it did It didn't result in a scoring chance Like that But I was like, okay, okay, there it is And then sure enough, Riley I never heard his quotes after the game

If I was Riley, I'd be like, I knew I did that on purpose I practiced that I'm the hero, you're welcome When Johansson scored And ended it and ended it ended the whole thing

because we don't need to talk about the goal in between it was a lucky goal the feeling in there must not have been dejection no and okay a lot of Leaf fans were kind of masking how much they knew

Washington was going to win the series like even I was like they can do it and I'm like if they do it'll be a miracle they could have done it they could have done it could have done it either way but

it was like it was like how Leaf fans went into the season expecting failure Leaf fans went into this series expecting nothing so

the Kapanen game was gravy the Bozak overtime win was gravy but when Johansson scored it was about a moment

of swearing under the breath and then alright well they had a good season they had a really good ah shoot like I knew it was coming

And it came later than I thought So that's good That's good People were great Leaf saluted the crowd Crowd cheered them on It was perfect I'm not gonna lie

I sat in front of my TV For about 15 minutes In a mild depression That's the worst thing About being at A devastating loss You're like Oh now I gotta leave

Yeah I just wanna sit here And be sad I got to Caprice like Sat down beside me And like Put her arms around me

Gave me a hug And like put her head On my shoulder And I didn't move And then she got up and went to bed and I didn't move. It was just, it was like, because I think what it was,

was I remember that first night against Ottawa. Even though that was a loss, it was a four goal game. I haven't reacted to a game like that in a very, very, very long time. And every moment from there, I mean, they've had their, they had their rough moments in the season for sure.

Yeah, two games later. Yeah, two games later. And three games later and four games later as well. That's true. They had a very bad start. However, when you look at the way it all kind of wrapped up, it was a pretty magical season. Absolutely.

Like, close to Disney movie stuff. That's what I wanted, man. I know. I know. Well, and all season long, I've kind of been, you know, we toiled with all those little Marley's transactions and potential Marley's transactions for a long time because I kept looking forward to next year

because that's what I programmed myself to do heading into this season because this season was going to be garbage. And then it wasn't. So now that we are looking forward, it's very strange because I thought there were going to be all these big changes, and now I look at the roster and what it did, and I'm like, I don't want to. I like all these guys.

For the first time I looked at the team, and I think this is the first time since probably 2004, I looked at the team and said, I love this team. I'm genuinely I'm genuinely attached To these players And it's a weird thing As a fan that you get

Right? Oh absolutely You become attached I'm attached to I mean I always liked Leo Komarov But like I'm attached To him being a Leaf

You know when James Van Riemsdyk Is no longer a Leaf And that's gonna come In the next year Year and a half That's gonna be weird It is

It's gonna feel weird If that is what happens It's probably what's Gonna happen I think the Leafs Are gonna have to make A couple cold Decisions this summer

Cold, unpopular decisions I don't think it'll be hard for Lou Lamorello to do that No, exactly And that's another reason why I love having him I love having him He has no problem doing that Dude, I haven't traded players in video games Because I had an emotional attachment

Yeah, right Fictional, not real players Lou Lamorello will Oh, how's your child? Oh, one week old That's nice That's too bad, get out Yeah.

Okay, so we... I don't know if it's actually... Since we're at the end of the season. Yes. All three of us. Best moment... Favorite moment of the season. Favorite moment.

Four goals. Because we were all together in a theater watching it. Were we? No. No, we were not at that. That was Mitch Marner. That was the second game. Were we not together for four goals?

No, we were not. I was watching at home messaging you guys going... You're confused because we saw another Ottawa game Later in the season We saw Curtis McElhinney's first game Which I'm sure you all remember just as well Anyways, four goals is my favorite moment Probably mine as well

I was going to say Curtis McElhinney's first game Well, because we were in London Well, we were in London And it was I just remember the relief settling over me Because we thought this guy was a lemon Yeah I'm like, we

That solved a problem You know, a lot of people still aren't convinced He did it though He did it And whether he can do it again or not is immaterial Exactly, he did it then Let's be honest, the Leafs got a little lucky With him

Who cares, he did it You gotta be lucky to be good You gotta be lucky to be good You gotta be good to be lucky Kujo, Tabarechi Gotta love Don Herbert, I know it's E-Bear Geez, the Centennial Classic was a lot of fun

Four goals was crazy I'm like, that is obviously the best But I'm trying I mean, that's going to be everyone's favorite moment You know what's another great moment? The Connor Brown goal to put them in the playoffs Game 81 That was really good too

Oh, that was so good And there's going to be a lot we don't think Florida was fun just because when they blew the Florida game and they came back and won

and everything was fine again yeah that was a good moment remember the abject depression we had on the show oh my god it was so ridiculous you know

another great one was Marner's first goal and his mom missed it oh yeah that was great and one of the best sellies of the whole friggin season

you know what I loved and this is selfish but whatever the feeling I had making the first LFR of this season Like I actually like talked smack For the first time in years

And like meant it and was confident in it I'm like get your jokes in now Did you just watch that Did you just watch that They lost it I feel this brash Like you're going down The Leafs are about to kill everybody in their path I uh

I didn't think it was going to be this season though No I didn't think so either Well here's the thing I gave them personally and I remember this We had the conversation before the season started the podcast before we said alright what do you give the Leafs and I think at the time I said well it's 50-50

but I give them about a 25% shot I think that's what I said too and Jesse was like nope they're going to make the playoffs yeah but I always say ridiculous things like that I don't know how much value that holds doesn't matter you got it well I mean if you said the Leafs were going to make the playoffs heading in like

yeah you would have been crazy but also like no one would have really faulted you if you were wrong because that's what we all thought was they weren't going to make it. Yeah. I don't know.

And then I like, you know, and then going into the playoffs, I said, Caps in six. As much as I love the Leafs,

Caps in six. I did say Caps in six. I'm not stoked about that. By the way, my playoff bet in the Dangle family house, I guessed five series right. Mrs. Dangle guessed three.

Iggy guessed three. Wow. Iggy's tied with my wife. You're beating a dog. Hey, my wife's not. No. Mrs. Dangle is not.

You lost a bet with Russian Machine Never Breaks, the blog So what's the bet? Because I know you've changed your avatar to Actually, it's crazy how much you and Ovi look alike How dare you, actually I think that's almost you Are you being sarcastic?

You can make that, well, not totally Hey, man, Ovi does okay They don't look alike, though Ovi is a millionaire person If you look at it from far away, it looks alike No I think it does I am a white person with brown hair

did i just racially profile you you did okay sorry man how does it feel well okay dude i get people sending me you look like this person you look like this and that's the one thing they all have in common and none of them look alike at all they don't even look related but i'm like well taveras brown hair taveras with brown hair or they'll be like you got brown hair and blue eyes that's nuts you're not blonde what John Tavares man John Tavares yeah yeah that's similar I uh I cut that from my 27 minute video oh the uh the story I told when I when I held up my uh program and I'm like oh yeah I got this program autographed by Kelly Rudy and Scott Oak the story I told after that was uh Kelly Rudy at the 2007 NHL awards uh walks up to me and he just

starts talking to me and just starts randomly asking me questions about how I'm doing and yeah yeah you look like you're you know you're doing pretty well out there and and I'm just like does Kelly Rudy watch my fucking videos like this this was my first season and uh I very quickly realized oh he wait who does he think I am and he just goes oh you're not him are you I go who he He goes, John Tavares. I go, no, I'm not John Tavares. So this was in 2007. Crosby was in his sophomore year, just won the heart,

and a 16- or 17-year-old John Tavares recorded a message for Crosby that was played on the video board. So I guess he was like, oh, John Tavares is here. That's amazing. He's not nearly as athletically built as I thought. He's got some weight room training to do. There are questions about the fitness. Got a body like a bag of milk.

That's my new favorite term. Okay, so you lost the bet, though. So you've changed your avatar. Yes, so it was just to the Russian Machine Never Breaks logo, which is Ovi's black and white face with red around it. And then that confused far too many people, so it's the same thing but blue. Blue. And I had to take a picture in my Russian Machine shirt

and all my caps and stuff around me, and I was very sad. You made one thing, an interesting comment before the series started, And I have to say it held true As much as the Leafs and Cavs had their moments And the fans had their moments It was the most respectful exchange I have ever seen At the end of it I was left going

I kind of wish this was more nasty Because now they need to be Prepared for a nastier opponent But remember when it was the Leafs and Sens And how bad that could have been That sliver of time Where it almost was Leafs and Sens And already Twitter was at each other's throats

I was like, oh, no. No, no, no. This could be bad. After the Columbus game, when it was confirmed it would not be Leafs and Sens, is when it picked up the most. And I'm like, wait. Yeah. Sorry, we're not playing each other, guys.

What's going on here? Caps fans were nice. And it was classy tweets from the Capitals themselves. I loved it. For the most part, I saw Leafs fans being very courteous to Caps fans. But my favorite thing, I saw this article, I want to say the Washington Post. They wanted to interview The

Cause I think it was the game Four Overtime win There were Three Caps fans going Yeah Like right at the front

Of the square At Maple Leaf Square Yeah I remember that Watching that I guess they wanted to be like Oh my god What happened to you After that

Cause then you had to walk Through a sea of Leaf fans And they were like Oh we Got booed And then a few people Told us to go home And like the entire

Comment section is just That's it That's it In Philly, you would have got your ass beat. In New York, oh my god. What the hell is this city? And honestly, the worst thing I saw was like, a Leafs fan sweared a Caps fan in Union Station,

which that just happens every game. And this guy held up a Caps sign in Maple Leafs Square and someone pushed it down. Oh, it's just ruffians, I tell ya. There was a Caps fan that ripped out a Make the Playoffs Great Again and it had a Toronto Maple Leafs logo on it and a guy grabbed it and ripped it down.

Oh. In Washington. oh really yeah but it's like funny like the guys like the Canadian guys are laughing

like oh that's nothing yeah that's nothing but I like that make the playoffs great again going into Washington I think that's hilarious

yeah now now contrast that with in 2011 I was at a regular season game in Boston and the person in front of me is like

if you were sitting up there you'd get your ass kicked I was just like oh okay cool you're right who are you cheering for now Pittsburgh

I just hope both teams have fun Jesse I just hope Everyone has fun. Overall? Yeah. Stories, right? Yeah.

I think, honestly, the Leafs losing gave us the best possible scenario in terms of stories. A Pens-Caps series is, this is going to be probably the defining series of the playoffs, I think. Well, okay, so... Former Stanley Cup champion, or sorry, defending Stanley Cup champion against the team favored to win. Does it get better than that? It does not. But, Devil's Advocate got a tweet here from Dmitry Filipovich. Can't wait to watch Pens vs. Caps again, but a reminder that the matchups in round two are

1 vs. 2, 6 vs. 8, 9 vs. 12, and 10 vs. 16. They need to change this system. It's so stupid. So, it's great. Like, it's so stupid. It's great that we get to see that series, but it's in round two. And it's two years in a row It should have been the conference finals game Not happening

Yeah, conference finals you can't help I mean, you are or you aren't in The eastern or western half of the country Continent But, I don't know To have this be A second round series I don't know

Well, and that's the NHL's fault For making things You know, taking a perfectly fine system Which is what they had before And screwing it up again. Or do we all watch this series because it's going to be the best series of the playoffs and then we

stick around to see how they do in round three and four. You know what would be really easy? Since you've got four divisions now instead of six, division winners of both get one and finish one. Sorry. Yeah, sorry, I'm sorry. You have four divisions. So you have divisions like, so you would have had, so Pittsburgh

won, no, Washington won. Washington and Montreal at the top? Let's just say it's the Eastern Conference. Washington-Montreal at the top as your division winners, and they automatically get home ice advantage and they're 1-2 in the conference, and then let the rest of them figure it out. Why does it have to be any more difficult than that?

Help me out with this. New York finished with more points than the Sens, I think significantly more points than the Sens, but we're the top wildcard team, so the Sens have home ice advantage in their series. Which is ridiculous. I think it's dumb. Why can't it just be points after round one?

Why can't it just be points after round one? That's what I didn't understand. No, it should be points in round one. It should be. You know what? You don't recede in round two. 1,000% I agree with you. I totally agree.

It's just a silly setup, and it's too intentional to the point where it just doesn't make any sense. Now, when we talk about teams exiting in the first round, there could be no more positive exit than the Toronto Maple Leafs. I'm assuming we're not on the radio, by the way. No. I think that was the series of the first round. Name a better series. Ottawa-Bosman. That's a pause.

Yeah, that was a great series. I was upset that that was on the same night as the Leafs. That made me upset. If I was a Sens or Bruins fan, I might have argued that one. That was fun. And there was some hatred there. It was good. Yes.

So, I don't know if there could be a more negative exit than the Montreal Canadiens. because to them this year, okay, so like, you know, you could argue that, you know, Columbus had a disappointing exit. You could argue that the Wild had a, I mean, you don't have to argue it. It was disappointing for both teams. But Montreal losing in the media center that Montreal is with the expectations that the Montreal Canadiens probably unfairly put on themselves.

I mean, you trade PK and you say we're making a run at it. I mean, you don't have to say you were making a run at it when you trade PK for Shea Weber. You are confirming that you're making a run at it when you do that. The confusion for me was, it was a one-for-one trade. For a guy who is better now,

quote-unquote better now, fits the system better now. No. That's the... Listen, I'm just telling you what they're saying. Right? You know, fits the system better. I'll sit here

and hear your argument for why they're equal. I don't agree. At the moment. I'll sit here and listen to that So the idea being that you have the better player now So you can make the run now No, well this was the thing I'll sit here and listen to the argument that they're equal

I don't get Where Shea Weber Makes you better now came from I don't understand that Especially for a team that's already struggling with goal scoring And that wasn't even the weirdest part So, outsider, right? It's not like I was waiting on bated breath

To see what the what Montreal said after their playoff exit and then it's like Carey Price will not be traded and I'm like I'm sorry

was that a question when did this become a thing well I think it probably was a question and it's funny one of the guys from the hockey news

I think it's Ken Campbell was like if I were if I were Jim Neal in Dallas I'd call Mark Bergevin and see if he wouldn't

swing a Sagan Oleksiak Carey Letnan and there was somebody else he included in that for Carey Price deal. I feel bad.

Please let that happen. That would be so great. Because that means the Leafs will be tight. They'll be right up there with Tampa for the division lead next year. It'd be great.

Probably. I mean, I feel bad. Ken Campbell's always been a very nice man to me. That's a terrible proposal. That's such a bad proposal. It's terrible. But also,

who in the league would you trade for Carey Price? Nobody. I think that's an irrelevant... You wouldn't trade Jamie Benn and Tyler Sagan for Carey Price? I think it's an irreplaceable talent.

I think we see what Jamie Benn and Tyler Sagan did in Dallas. They can't even make the playoffs. And those two are expensive together. So is Carey Price after this season on his contract? Sure. But you win with Carey Price even paying him top dollar. One thing I've looked at, so I wrote something last night. It was young up-and-coming teams over, you know, in recent memory

that were bad, made the playoffs, and then what happened after the first year they made the playoffs. Pittsburgh was Very linear progress Missed the playoffs Lost in round one Lost in the Stanley Cup Final Won in the Stanley Cup Final

Chicago Missed the playoffs Western Conference Final Cup Tampa Was a cautionary tale That the Dallas Stars Should have paid attention to I think it was the 2010-2011 season

Yeah, it was the year The Bruins won the Cup Because they played Tampa In round three Tampa came out of nowhere and just were an offensive juggernaut Who could not stop a beach ball So on New Year's Day, they go out and they get Dwayne Rolison Who was not good, but he was decent

He was better than the tandem of Mike Smith and Dan Ellis That they had So they had goaltending But then after that, they had two years of Brutal, like sub-900 goaltending But Marty St. Louis is still scoring like Marty St. Louis. Finson LeCavalier isn't the guy he used to be, but he's still good. Stamkos is just getting better and better.

There's a lot of young guys showing promise. Goals were not the problem. The Dallas Stars can score goals. Can't stop the damn puck. Just breaking news here from our parent company. Well, parent company that Jesse and I work at and Steve, you work at, but not for this podcast. It's a very weird setup, but anyway.

Parent company, Rogers Media. has just announced, this is from Rick Brace, that because Rod, they announced this five-year deal to have the Vancouver Canucks broadcast on Rodgers radio stations there. At the time, though, people were like, okay, where? Because we only have FM stations in that market.

How would you do that? Well, it turns out Sportsnet will be acquiring a radio station, and they will name it Sportsnet 650. This is CISL AM radio in Vancouver. They'll be buying that from NuCap Incorporated. Now, CISL in Vancouver, if you're from Vancouver and you're any, you know, if you're past 25 years of age, you know CISL. It is a legendary frequency out there, but it will be rebranded to Sportsnet 650. Damn, that's big news.

And it will be the third all-sports radio station in the Sportsnet chain. So that includes 960 in Calgary and 590 here, which, of course, we're on. Makes me sad. I'm going to lose a couple friends. I know. What do you mean? Well, because they're going to go to Vancouver and work for that station. Yep.

Yeah, probably. Probably. But it's great. It's great for the expanding coverage. Anyway, so I just wanted to interject there. That's pretty big news. So we're moving to Vancouver. To become Pennox bloggers.

No! Hey, we know you have a lot of experience with frustrating teams and bad management. Do you think maybe you could make them entertaining? No, no, I just got out We're going to clock you back in Also, congrats on the new head coach, Vancouver Who's your new head coach? Travis Green

Siri missed that They hired Travis Green Today? This morning, like two hours ago I missed it Two hours ago I was in Toronto I was in nap Announced by John Shannon on Twitter that he's their

AHL coach and they promoted him to head coach good for him Travis Green John Shannon that's not really a surprise he was kind of the front runner

but that's great John Shannon had a really great quote today on Hockey Central which I never get to listen to because I'm usually here by then but it rained in Toronto

so people couldn't cope they asked about Philip Grubauer and one of the guys on the panel said do you think Philip Grubauer can be a number one

in this league and John Shannon goes well he will be for the next two years so we're going to start to see a more definitive list of who we think Vegas is going to claim and according to John

Chan it's probably going to be Grubauer and Nett pretty interesting it is interesting very interesting okay so I also want to talk a little bit more about Marc Bergevin's end of your press conference I know we got off track and that's fine but he

did address the lack of number one center and tell me if this strikes you Self-induced problem. Tell me if this strikes you as familiar being a Toronto Maple Leafs fan. They asked him, Can a team win a cup without a true No. 1 center? No.

No. I don't think so. Marc Bergevin said this, We might have a different view of what a No. 1 center is. I believe there are teams that have won in the past without a true No. 1 center. So the answer is yes. Philippe Danon took a big step forward this season. He's not a No. 1 center, but he's a very responsible player,

and he's still very young, and I think he's got room for improvement. Placanik, we had a conversation today, and he had a disappointing year. He has found his mojo a bit at the end of the season. McCarron is a player Claude and I see as a center. He's big, and he'll continue to develop. Torrey Mitchell, fourth-line center, is going to be. And he said Torrey Mitchell will be our fourth-line center, and those are our centers as we speak today.

So he took it from Can you win the cup to Here are our centers Can you win a cup without it And then they asked In as many I could have just as easily said Alex Galchenyuk is not a center

Well that's the thing But instead here's a paragraph He did address that too And he said that the best place for Galchenyuk right now Is on the wing I think the best place for Galchenyuk right now Is Colorado Because I think that Montreal and Colorado

Are going to revisit the Duchesne Galchenyuk thing I think it's going to happen. Really? That's what I believe. Because Matt Duchesne makes a lot of sense in Montreal for a lot of reasons, mostly because Montreal needs a number one center. And that is a deflection spin, naked deflection slash spin from Marc Bergevin. But he doesn't make too much sense in Colorado.

I think he could, just in the sense that, yeah, obviously losing Matt Duchesne is not great. But I think it's him and something that goes for Duchesne. Yeah, I still don't understand where the fire is in Colorado. Like, why are you—you suck. You so badly suck. Why are you getting rid of a guy who is good and that young? Like, I don't get it. This isn't a great year.

I think it's probably because he wants out. This guy's Nazem Kadri's age. Well, if his heart's broken and he wants out, that makes sense. This guy grew up an Avalanche fan. Yeah. Like, I don't know. I would think if anyone could withstand it, it'd be him. Alex Galchenyuk is 23.

In February, he's going to turn 24, so about halfway through next season. When is he going to be a center then? When are you going to... Because that sounded to me open-ended, like you're going to develop him into a center. When's that going to happen? I don't think they addressed that. They're so trading this guy. Oh, yeah.

That's why I say Dushane, because if you're going to trade him, you better be getting a number one center back. Good luck. So congrats, you get Matt Dushane, but now you're down Galchenyuk. Plus. Probably plus. I think you're right there. I don't know, man.

I don't know. Montreal is a very confusing team. They're a very confusing team. Confusing or poorly run? Well, this is the thing. Like, even at the beginning of the season, you go, oh, Montreal. If you were to tell me Montreal made the playoffs, you'd be like, oh, yeah, that's not surprising. Oh, but you said they're bad.

Oh, no, no, no, no. That has nothing to do with it. Yeah. No. And, I mean, just the fact that Price was brought up. It was like, we are definitely, totally, probably, maybe not trading him. And they did say they want to work on an extension. But Carey Price has not come out and said, I want to work on an extension.

Not that I saw. You know, Marc Bergevin could take some notes from Lou Lamorello's press conferences. They say about the same number of words. And they both say nothing. Lou's nothing doesn't get him in any trouble. Marc's always seems to. What's up with that? I don't know.

I don't know. I just look at Montreal and I feel bleakness. like i don't feel confident and montreal is when you get one or two sides done on a rubik's cube yeah and you feel some sense of accomplishment uh-huh but ultimately you don't realize no you're actually far you're far away from having this done you're several moves away from having this done. But you don't want to move it because you're like, but these two sides, they look pretty and I did this. I made this

myself. Having never successfully completed a Rubik's Cube, I know that feel. But I have gotten a couple sides. And I felt pretty good about that side. And guess what? I left it untouched. I was like, well, done. And hey, it is entirely possible you win a cup

with two sides of your cube completed. You get a bounce here, bounce there. One of those sides is Carey Price. so that's pretty good you might win you might win Carey Price you could argue

might even be two sides on his own but yeah oh 100% but if you keep going keep turning make all the right turns might have yourself

a cube a full cube what's French for cube you'll have that also on one side it'll say cube on the other it'll say

French cube Montreal can too solve some of these problems drafting but I wonder if or developing or developing But I wonder if the window's too late on that with Carey Price.

I don't know how much longer... Because they're not going to suck enough to get a high enough draft pick who can be an impact player. But Subban was a second round pick, right? That's true. But then you've got to get really lucky. Yeah, you do. You're absolutely right.

And scouting's getting better and better and better and better. I don't know if I believe that. Well, because their core's there. Do we agree that Montreal has a pretty good core? I like their core. It's old. Like, Andrei Markov is not part of their core anymore, right? Uh, well, eh.

Isn't he like 38? Peripheral core. You know what I mean? I think he's just been there. I think at one point he was a part of the core. Yes. But you talk about a core, you're talking about the future. Alright, so...

The now and the future. Jesse gave me the cap friendly. Like, Thomas McCann, this is 34. I think that's a move you gotta make. Yeah, holy... Making six million bucks. I love Pacioretty. I love Pacioretty.

We just needed some goal scoring. The entire team needed goal scoring from him. And everybody You know what though 28 Making 4.5 He's worth way more Than 4.5

Patches? Yeah oh yeah Oh no you keep them Yeah 100% That's Yeah How many years left?

Uh One Sorry it's still set To this year But their season's over So it's confusing you No Oh so one more year

Yeah one more year Sorry But you trade Placanik He's at like an all time low Right now He had a bad year Yeah Radulov's a huge question

Mark yeah Andrew Shaw making 3.9 next year the year after the year after the year after the year after does not look as good as I thought it did Brendan Gallagher is still 24 I actually like his contract 375 for only one year less than Shaw okay how did you get more than Gallagher oh my god Gallagher is

probably wondering the same thing Gauch is a pending UFA Or sorry, RFA That's not going to be fun Dwight King, glad you spent assets on him UFA Brian Flynn, UFA Steve Ott, UFA, he's gone

Andreas Martinsen, UFA, he's probably gone Andre Markov is a UFA I did not know that He'll probably come back at a reduced rate I mean, he's still an NHL player Well, he's making 5-7-5 I don't know, I'm just looking at this team And

I see two sides of a Rubik's Cube Some really good Really good parts Who is the point scorer on that team? Like who's the Patches Okay And then

Webber's put up points Radulov put up a lot of points Okay so but Radulov Radulov wants more money Yeah And he wants term Yeah Yeah you don't look at the roster and say

They're gonna score a ton of goals At all Cause you don't know where it's gonna come from I know Patch Reddick can I know Radulov can but who else Markov Markov had 36 points

that's pretty good I wonder how many of those came on the power play yeah but so did how many points did Connor Brown have well Connor Brown's not a defenseman

I don't know I just I see parts there I see yeah we gotta have Berkshire on again I feel like Berkshire just comes on

and rips the Canadians I think they deserve to be I think he would he would genuinely you know what they're in danger of being... The Vancouver Canucks. They're in danger of being

my least favorite thing, the What Are They team. Mm-hmm. They also won the Atlantic Division. Let's acknowledge that. Andrew. Andrew the phone.

Andrew the phone, yes. Andrew has come on and said, What are the Canadians? He's said this for a year. I mean, I remember listening. I was on a train to Liverpool last year

when Subban got traded and you had him on and he's like, What are these guys? What are they? Oh yeah, you weren't here for that. I was not. I was so mad

I said to Capriza I'm like I love you and I love this vacation we're on but I am never taking this two week period off again

this is insane I got burned I know we got engaged but I hate everything about it we could have got engaged a couple weeks later wouldn't have changed much

and she would have understood it's funny like late June is such a minefield at this point in my life because it's multiple weddings

this year expansion draft as well and draft and free agency this Saturday is a big day is that in the lottery finally

I didn't even know what it was last year we were anticipating it had already happened this time last year it happened on my birthday 13th

no it happened on the 30th last year I was at my own birthday party somewhere that I showed up late to yeah the 30th doesn't make sense because the season's yeah you're right

it was the 30th didn't I show up late too no that one was that one was cancelled because I was sick I had another one later on Caprice is a good good person

and scheduled too all I remember is literally running around Sportsnet. Sprinting around Sportsnet. Yep. It was a good time. So, okay, so here's what Montreal needs to do.

And this is for a lot of teams. Figure out what the goal is. And it has to be more than just this. This kills me. What's the goal? Winnipeg. To win the Stanley Cup. No. How?

Yeah. How? What is your identity? Why? Why? You got to figure out what kind of team you are. Are you a high-flying team? Are you a defensive lockdown team?

Are you a... I think that's what they are. But they should have been the opposite. They should have been high-flying and Carey Price make a pile of saves. I think... Because they can do that. I think they thought they were the lockdown team impossible to score against team because they had Carey Price, they had Shea Weber.

they go out like they really needed goal scoring they go out and they get Steve Ott Andreas Martinsson Dwight King

Nesterov you know who they should have got? P.A. Parenteau wasn't Nathan Beaulieu

like a healthy scratch at 1.2 yeah I don't know I don't know Bergevin also said when you

pick in the 20s year after year it's hard to find that core piece unless you get very lucky And shortly after that

Gee whiz, I wonder when they could have done that Yeah, how about Chicago Just not having firsts ever How about Montreal Montreal did it But you traded that Look at Pittsburgh, look at what Pittsburgh's done Yeah, you can

But the problem was, Montreal never had You had Price and you had Subban And then Pacioretty But, what else You need like a You need more than just the triumvirate You need a big three up front, or at least big two. But you look at Chicago, big three up front.

Tays, Kane, Hossa. You traded two second round picks, and I think gave a six year contract to a fifth round pick, Andrew Shaw. You gave, I think it was a five or six year contract to another fifth round pick of yours, Brendan Gallagher. You gave 9 million dollars a year To a second round pick Of yours P.K. Subban

And then you dealt him These guys They've gotten guys In other rounds One thing a lot of Montreal Canadiens fans Have been telling me For a long time

Oh just Berkshire Not just Berkshire Is they've been They've been real hard up For developing guys In the AHL Who's their goal scoring phenom

Charles Houdon Charles Houdon I think he's been lighting up the AHL for like a while now should be in the NHL and just

is not is not I don't know and he's French Canadian and he's French Canadian what well at least I think so name like Charles Houdon

I think maybe Charles Houdon from Vaud de Bridge okay so here's the thing I had a question for Steve before the show

and I meant to do this in the Leafs section but whatever when was the last time the Leafs drafted out out of the top 10 and it better not be the Kessel trade that's what I thought it was Adam

but no it was actually very recent it was not 2016 they picked first it was not 2015 they picked fourth it was not 2014 they picked eighth

so we got Matthews, Marner, and Nylander there it was 2013 when they went to the playoffs Actually, yes. They picked 21st overall. Who was it? Freddie Gauthier. Oh, Freddie.

Freddie Gauthier. Remember at the time, like when they made that pick, I was at my dad's house near Kingston and was watching the draft. And even the guys on the, like the prognosticator, the guys on the screen were like, oh, why did they pick him? And listen, he hasn't turned out to be a bad player. No. But it was like, okay, this is the first round.

You can pick him in the second or third. I'll give you one that stings. Two picks later, Washington, who, by the way, you can't get good players in the 20s, guys. Andrej Burakovsky, 95 points on 196 games. Vancouver, Hunter Sienkarek was the very next pick. Montreal, you can't get good players in the 20s. What are you talking about? You got Michael McCarron, 25th overall, four years ago.

Anaheim Shea Theodore the next pick Marco Dano was the next pick after that wow Chicago

Ryan Hartman was the 30th pick how did they manage to get a decent player out of that they won the cup I don't get it I was told

you can't do that I believe that's called superior scouting oh man out of the last two years the 2016 and 2015 drafts

only two players have played in the NHL that's surprising sorry say that again out of the last two drafts for the Leafs. Only two players

have played in the NHL. That's not that surprising because they're teenagers, right? Yeah. It does take a couple years. You need to be particularly exceptional. So, Matthews, exceptional. It is surprising

considering the team turnover. Yeah. And the fact that they did start nine rookies this year. Yeah. And everything we talk about is the rookies. Yeah.

From the last two years, only two guys have played. Connor Brown. Rookie is relative, right? Like, Connor Brown's third-round pick, was he not? Sixth. He was a sixth-round pick?

He was a Burke pick. Wow. He was a Berk pick. Wow. I want to say 2012. 2012. Sixth round. Damn.

Can you look up his draft year? Like, just look up his HockeyDB page. It's interesting. He's exactly the kind of guy I think you take a flyer on. Oh, okay. Well, Jesse pulled it up real quick. So let's look at Toronto here. And there he is.

Sixth round pick. Actually, they picked Victor Louv in the seventh round, too. And he played in the NHL. I mean, it wasn't much, but at least he played. So, Connor Brown's draft year with the Erie Otters. 68 games played. You're going to give us the plus-minus thing, aren't you? Adam.

It's like we're married. I know. I know it's coming. Well, no, that's actually not the most important stat. I'll let you know the most important. 25 goals, 28 assists. Not bad. 53 points.

Not bad at all. Minus 72 And you asked him about it, didn't you? I did, and he's like, you can say it You can say it, go ahead He was minus 72 Now, the reason he was minus 72 wasn't because he sucked It was because the Erie Otters

Sucked! Because remember how bad the Sabres were? Well, you can tank in the OHL too The Erie Otters wanted Connor McDavid Oh, haven't heard of him And that's how they got him Hey, Steve, how come you have not told the story About a

Pierre Hedin Young woman named Anne Who approached you at game three Oh that's right Okay so game three I felt horrible I didn't eat for like a long time And I was just super nervous

And I was just exhausted from the day And like I'm actually walking around The ACC like a zombie Trying to find my wife Because we were going to meet in the concourse And she got me a shawarma And I'm just stumbling around Where's my wife?

She got me a wrap It's like to the point where Larry Tenenbaum walked by me and I tapped him on the shoulder and I had to go you're doing a good job

and I just kept walking wow why is it why are we just hearing this now I know because I forgot you tapped Larry Tenenbaum on the shoulder

like he was my boy I'm like Larry hey Larry Larry in the concourse at the ACC you mean like the CEO

of the Toronto Maple well of NLSE well not NLSE quarter owner quarter owner yes the man who owns a quarter

of that team you live for yes and the Raptors and the Marlies and TFC and you alright

thank you for letting us know I just let you know that's cool uh then as one does one taps Larry hey Lawrence

hey hey Tanny I call him Bomber Tanny B I call him Bomber Bomber okay the bomb

yeah Tannenbaum yeah um you're the Tannenbaum yeah um so

meet my wife shove the shawarma in my face start to instantly feel better it's the best it's the best food it is the best

along with pizza and everything it's a revival food like pizza's a revival food see if I eat poutine a lot of people call that a revival food that just puts me to sleep

I eat pizza I feel better poutine's like my bed I eat shawarma you have poutine at 3 in the morning and no other time no

yeah I can't even finish one man I like them yeah you're a quitter revival food pad thai Oh, yes! Oh, man.

I want some of that now. Sorry, I was very passionate about that. I want pad thai now. All right, anyway. Okay, now I know what I'm doing after the show. Good. So, anyway. So, people were walking up to me and,

Hey, watch the videos. Holy shit, what do you think is going to happen in overtime? And, you know, all this. And then this little lady with, you know, short haircut, she just goes, Are you Tangle? I just go, yeah. She goes, I'm Ann, Connor's mom.

And I was just like, oh, your son's a very good player. As in Ann Brown, Connor Brown's mother. Yes. Yeah. Wow. Mrs. Downtown. Mrs. Downtown. The creator of Downtown.

Yes. Yes. Wow. Where Downtown was built. She's the developer. Yes. The key developer. Absolutely.

I didn't know what else to say. You know what? She said hi. She initiated it. That's pretty cool. Otherwise, I would never speak to players' family. Did you know who she was? No.

No, I didn't. I knew... I know what Austin Matthews' mom looks like. She was on TV. Basically, every single player's family is active on social media. And I just try to go, okay, and steer clear. Yeah. I don't know.

It just seems like a bit of a minefield, you know? Does Connor watch the videos, or does she watch the videos? I don't want to know the answer to that. You know what you should do? I assume she does. You should call James Reimer's mom to see if he was concussed. This is the thing. You know, I get it.

I get why you say it. And also, leave the family out of it. They're there to enjoy their kids. They did their job. They took them to practice. And I need to be able to, you know, the next time Connor Brown has a shitty game, I need to be able to say it. Actually, the very next game was game four where Connor Brown whiffed on the puck

and that led to the fifth goal. I need to be able to call him out on that. You can't be friends with his mom. Yeah, exactly. We can't be like Twitter buddies. And that was like the one of maybe five mistakes he made all season. Yeah. Listen, I thought that was really cool.

I thought that was a really cool moment. It is cool. It's happened a few times And you go thank you And it's very cool It's really all you can do Terry Pagula This is an older story

But the reason I'm bringing Terry Pagula up Is because you need to go to the Sabres website And watch Terry Pagula's press conference 15 minutes They uploaded it? They did and it's still up I watched it again today So Terry basically admitted

Over the course of this press conference that he hadn't fully made up his mind on whether or not to fire Tim Murray and Dan Bilesma and his basically postseason meeting with both of them made that decision. They asked him, did you go into that meeting knowing that you were going to fire them? And he said, no, I did not. You must have been leaning towards it. If you didn't know and then you did, you must have been leaning towards it. Yeah, of course, of course.

and it seems you ever ask someone their opinion so they can confirm yours yeah you're not actually asking for their opinion you're asking for

their reassurance yeah sometimes people show you who they are and you have to decide like you can you're like like sometimes

I go into meetings and I go this is who I think this person is and sometimes they surprise me and sometimes they're exactly

who I thought they were and they operate exactly how they yeah neither of you did that's for sure But I wonder if in this case he was probably like, okay, maybe they're going to come at me with some knowledge that I wasn't prepared for or a plan that I wasn't prepared for. But another thing that I thought was interesting about this press conference when you watch it, and I could have audio clipped it, but I got to be honest with you, the answers are pretty boring.

Terry Pagula says, discipline and structure a lot. He uses those words. We need more discipline in this organization. and you know you could tell there was a little bit inside baseball in terms of

the way press the reporters were asking questions because people were like are you having as much fun as you thought you would owning this team you know

what's been hard like didn't you don't you just want to sit back it was I know the press the press in Buffalo already think the Pagoulas are too involved

in the Bills and the Sabres well this was interesting because the impression I had been given of the Pagoula family up until this this very sudden

they're way too active was they basically helped rebuild like a section of Buffalo there's a really nice sports bar

that's right up there with real sports that they built big practice facility lots of ice pads doing great things with the Bills doing great things

with the well their first problem was they hired Rex Ryan Rex Ryan is a defensive coordinator at best at freaking best And a Trump supporter at worst.

Yeah, and he happens to be a charismatic guy who had a great defense and made Mark Sanchez look like an all-star. Which, by the way, we all know what happened to Mark Sanchez after that. And I just think the Pagoulas, in football, people are taking football and they're applying it to hockey. I think in football, they're frustrated because the Bills aren't trying to lose and they're losing. In hockey, they were trying to lose, they lost, and they ended up with Jack Eichel. But they also got a bunch of other things That were not so great Did we talk about my tweet

About this No I don't know what's your tweet about this Did the Leafs get Sorry did the Leafs get Tim Murray fired I think The comparison has to play a part in it

I don't think it's the whole thing I honestly am not surprised From the games against Buffalo this season, that discipline is something that he brought up. I'm not surprised with the personalities on that team that discipline's an issue. I'm just not

surprised. With Ryan O'Reilly's outburst? Yeah, you've implied that a few times. So you're not just referring to Evander Kane? No. Like, okay, O'Reilly had his troubles. He had his troubles, but he also got mad at the team. And usually

these issues... A lot of blow-ups, eh? Yeah, these issues arise. Even if that Eichel story about him not wanting to re-sign if Dan Bilesman was head coach. Which, by the way, I don't know. They can deny it all they want. I don't know, man. But usually these issues arise when there is a discipline issue. When people are not coming to the rink.

If everybody's coming to the rink and giving it 110% and preparing well and eating well and not partying the night before. these things don't happen so when Sidney Crosby was a rookie he had Mark Reckie there to tell him to shut the fuck up and

and he lived at Mario's house and he lived at Mario's oh my god yeah didn't they play together yes yeah briefly

yes who tells Jack Eichel to shut the fuck up I got the Ryan G on well I got the impression it was Josh Georges and

Josh Georges is a veteran but Josh Georges cannot tell Jack Eichel to shut the fuck up Well, it should be the head coach. Should it not be? Can Dan Bilesman tell him to...

Well, he's a cup winner. Babcock could tell Matthews to shut the fuck up if he wanted to. But they have that type of relationship, and Matthews doesn't need to be told to shut up. He probably needs to be told, hey, you want to speak a little bit anytime? It's weird. Like, you'll meet people in your life

who will tell you the same thing in a different way. And it just means something differently. Like I can't, I cannot picture for some reason, Dan Biles, the disciplinarian, you know what I mean? Like, I can't imagine him saying something the same way Barry Trotz would or Joel Quinville, like Pat Burns. Like, when I think of someone who could say literally anything and I would listen, I just think of that Pat Burns face. Helps if you have a mustache, I think. The mustache, yeah, I did name Joel Quinville, you're right. Pat Burns, you know, Pat Burns had the great hair, too.

I know, for some reason, there's, I just can't imagine Dan Bilesma, the disciplinarian. I don't know. Well, and again, I think that there's going to have to be some changes in the personalities in that dressing room. Are they going to hire Daryl Sutter? I hope they do. Me too. I think, I mean, that's all I'm hearing.

I think he might be the guy. And I think he makes a lot of sense. I don't know who, here's the thing. He makes a lot of sense for what they want. Do you not need a general manager first? Oh, 100%. And who do you have? He's been one.

So you get him as a coach and GM? I don't know about that Calgarians would have an issue I think that's done Yeah, I think it is too But who do you get? Who's the GM? And if it is Is it Fuenta?

Futa If it's Futa, can Futa tell Daryl Sutter to shut up? Well, they have worked together Have they? Okay In LA What about Dean Lombardi? Well, what a lot of Leaf fans have been going

Don't you dare Is Kyle Dubas No Kyle Dubas The Sabres do have money now Dude Didn't I suggest that last time? Yeah, you did

I think you did I feel like we have had this conversation Kyle Dubas is not going to Buffalo, man Remember when you told me it wasn't going to happen Then you brought it up Well, because Kyle Dubas Because I don't want it to happen

Because Kyle Dubas is not going to go to Buffalo To have his ass kicked by the team he created I'm sorry Yeah, we did have this conversation There's just no way And by the way Whatever money Whatever money the Sabres have

Pagoola Sports and Entertainment has, the Leafs have double that money. No, they have the same amount of money. They're all billionaires. It doesn't matter. Yes, but the Leafs will pay to keep them. I guarantee it. Lammarello's done after this year, guys. Yeah, I can't imagine

Dubas leaving. And you know what? I don't think Lammarello will leave the team. I think he will be one of those guys that's in a role to help augment. Now, let's say that it was partially the Leafs that got these guys fired

and brought about these changes? Why not bring in one of the architects? They're not going to get them. I'm sure they would love to. I think they're going to try. They're not going to get them.

I don't think they're going to either. It's not going to happen. The Leafs are way too competitive in their front office now. There was a time when they were complacent. Now, it is no longer the case.

I can guarantee it. Guarantee it. I feel it in my bones. They're going to have to, and if I were them, a Dean Lombardi, Daryl Sutter thing, That doesn't look so bad

I love Lou I really do But I look forward to the day Kyle Dubas is GM So I don't have to think About this anymore And then I'll be worried

About losing Mark Hunter You won't lose him either I don't think so Remember these guys Want to be here too I think so too And again If Kyle Dubas

Had to go there Imagine how much Retooling he'd have to do They're a couple years away I think Unless they have a great summer Well that'd be interesting Cause like

and Robert listen I said I think people disagreed with me last episode I think with regards to Robin Leonard he's fine

I don't think he's bad I just don't think he's worth the price they paid and I don't think he's the guy you want I don't I question

when I see him blow up on the ice in front of people you want to talk about discipline that's a problem yeah

and you want you need your goalie to be ice cold I never I never saw even the cantankerous Eddie Belfort lose it on his head coach Someone will probably send you footage

in Toronto Well yeah, his head coach was Pat Quinn Yeah, that's interesting man. I'm sure Eddie Belfort lost it in Chicago and Dallas, I'm sure I don't remember where it was but I seem to have this memory of him throwing a TV onto the ice

or something like that. Might have I just think that there's a There's definitely something rotten there And whoever's going to have to go in They're going to have to go in and fix that Should we stop talking about these peasants? And talk about how the Oilers are going to have to play the Ducks? Well, I was going to say

We haven't even talked about round two predictions Well, what do we think? Okay, so what do we got? We got Pittsburgh, Washington Yeah, we're going to save that one to last, okay? Okay, yes, that's fair Let's start in the West So, Edmonton, Anaheim

So this is one of those series that always dupes me. Because we got the team I did think would make it through in Anaheim and the team I did not think would make it through in Edmonton. Naturally, I'm going to go with Anaheim. Because I thought they would make it through. But the way the Oilers handled the Sharks, I did not think it would be that easy for them. Here's why I think it's going to be Anaheim.

Yeah? The Ryan Kessler-Conor McDavid matchup. No one can keep up with him. Like, it's not about keeping up. Conor McDavid's another thing. It's not about keeping up. If there was a center in the league that you wanted to go head-to-head with Conor McDavid, would it not be Ryan Kessler?

Sidney Crosby. Sidney Crosby. Sidney Crosby. No, but I mean, like, defensively shut down the gaps. And then, and then beyond that, beyond that, you've also got Gatslav and Perry, who've been there before. and Perry had an off year but he kind of picked up

steam at the end of the year and Getzlaff who's Ryan Getzlaff and who's going to go up against Ryan Getzlaff? You know what? This is a fun fun series.

It's going to be fun but I give it to Anaheim. It's going to be violent. I have Edmonton going to the Stanley Cup Finals and I'm going to keep betting on them because I don't think

anybody's going to beat McDavid. I have Anaheim going to the Cup Final. This is going to be a bloodbath. I keep saying that. There hasn't really been one.

The most violent series was Anaheim-Calgary And that ended in four games I definitively Listen, in this series I'm cheering for the Oilers But I believe it will be the Ducks I was cheering for the Leafs I believed it would be the Caps

It's a little bit difficult to not cheer for the Oilers How do you not? It's exciting, it's amazing Cinderella, man Even though not really You do have the second best player in the world Maybe the best player in the world I'm still going to say Ducks

But I think it's going to be a long series And I won't be surprised to see the Oilers win I think it hinges on one player C. McD. Cam Talbot. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep.

I think Cam Talbot's the make or break. Calgary did not get goaltending in the first round. Yeah. Edmonton did. And Anaheim had points this year. Had points. Had trouble scoring. Had points.

And had John Gibson come out of the game sometimes and Jonathan Bernier come in. And one thing we've seen with Kessler a little bit is he goes too hard in the opening two rounds. Like, he was Well, I want him to go too hard against Connor McDavid He was like the zombie without limbs Just dragged himself When he got to the Stanley Cup Final against Boston Bernier got into a game

He did In the four-game sweep, right? He did So he's been in a quarter of their games We need him to be in half And make it to the final But he didn't start, though Doesn't matter

No, he got in He got in because Gibson had given up four goals In the first 16 shots or something Yeah, and then they ended up winning the game. And then Gibson got the win. Yes. In the game, he got both. That was weird.

Even though he was behind. Oh, I didn't know that. The first round, there's too much. There's just too much. So many stories. Next series. So Gibson's going to start. Gibson is going to start.

And Bernier's been solid. I think he's a better backup. So then we move on to, and this is to me, this series is when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. We have the Nashville offense versus the St. Louis Jake Allen defense, which is Jake Allen. It's funny. I want to look at the Preds.

These are two goalies who have two modes, fantastic and awful. Yeah. Jake Allen and Pecorine. Pecorine. And Pecorine's been Pecorine, and Jake Allen has been Jake Allen. Like good Jake Allen. I think you can pull off. what's the saying I heard a long time ago

like something about Cinderella always makes it to the ball but never leaves with her shoe something along those lines that's smooth what you're saying is you probably

can't goaltend your way past in two rounds even J.S. Jaguar in arguably you know one of the top five most magical goaltending playoff performances of all time

could not beat the Detroit Red Wings no it was the Devils oh the Devils oh it was 2003 Mike Babcock Anaheim

Mighty Ducks it wasn't against Detroit? uh no they played Detroit in the first round and beat them right

because they were in the same conference right they beat them so in this metaphor the Wilds are Detroit right

um I think you can do it once you might do it again you might do it again against Nashville I don't think so though I think Nashville

comes out with the win here I think so, too. I have Nashville going to the finals. I have Nashville going to the third round and losing to the Ducks. And right now, still possible. I have Nashville versus St. Louis, which I don't think very many people had. By the way, all of this can change after game one. Totally.

Yes, it's like, wow, that's totally. And then after game two. And the Blues win 7-6 in overtime. We have Ottawa and New York. Interestingly, made a huge trade this summer. Broussard for Zabinijad. and here they are in the second round

playing each other so you know how I just bragged about having Nashville versus St. Louis I had Montreal versus Boston I think I did too

oops I like the Rangers in this one mostly because of Henrik Lundqvist mostly because of Henrik Lundqvist

they're a little more playoff hardened but Erik Karlsson is playing himself into a

consmith man Wasn't he supposed to be injured? Yeah, how injured is his foot? I think he said it was broken. Yeah, he had a hairline fracture or something. That's why he's just dropping Peyton Manning bombs down the ice to Hoffman. Like, crazy. If you're the Rangers, how don't you just put everything at the net?

Like, even if Carlson's in front of you, and it's not the best shooting lane. But then you have Craig Anderson to shoot at. I think you have a boot to shoot at. Here's the report. Eric Carlson played the first round of the Stanley Cup playoffs with two hairline fractures in his left foot. The defenseman revealed reports on Sunday. He shouldn't have revealed that. Yeah, that was dumb.

Why did he reveal that? He suffered the injury on March 28th against the Flyers while blocking a shot. Always against the Flyers. At the moment, it's unclear whether this ailment will affect Carlson for the second round against the Rangers. Why reveal that? So he's good. this is why he has a lower body injury

like or just say no I'm perfectly fine I didn't know that was his injury since March 28th two hairline fractures this one I cannot call

because Ottawa really surprised me with how they handled Boston I really because it wasn't that I didn't believe in Ottawa's talent

it was that they limped into the playoffs Mark Mathot lost half his finger so did Boston though and that that I think was their saving grace

along with they played well You know, they didn't get a good season out of Bobby Ryan. They got a decent first round. Ottawa also finished second in the division. Yeah, exactly. They had a strong year overall. They did, but it was... Remember we talked about all the teams in the East since, like, March 1st?

Ottawa was one of the worst. You know what, though? So was New York. So were the Rangers. Don't you find it funny that Ottawa got overtime goals from Dion Phaneuf and Clark MacArthur? In Boston? You know, this is a rough spot. after the game

Clark MacArthur said I'm glad we got it because I've had some rough times in this barn yeah I know you know see it affects us all

even former Leafs it affects us all I think it was I think it was Platinum Seaghost was like am I allowed to cheer for Eric Carlson

and not the Sens like cause the Sens do have some characters yeah the Sens have some characters I want to cheer for it's so hard not to cheer for that story

not just Craig Anderson but the crazy season Clark MacArthur has had or the lack of season. It's amazing he's playing. How is he playing? I didn't think he'd be playing. That's unbelievable. In game, I think one or two, he scored his first goal

since 2015. That's ridiculous. I mean, I don't feel exactly the same way about FNUF that I do about Clark MacArthur, but part of me is like, ah, you're out of Shawshank. You made it. I wonder

how he's been received in Ottawa. Mostly positively. That must be nice for him. I think it goes up and down. They put him on the logo. They must like him. He is Jesse. You know what?

I'm going to go with Ottawa on this one. That's a toss-up. It is. It hinges on one player again, Henrik Lundqvist. It's two Swedes. Henrik Lundqvist versus Eric Carlsen. And then, of course, the last series that we walked away from and are coming back to, Pens and Caps, which to me, again, defining series of this Stanley Cup playoffs, so exciting, so great that we get this. Hockey deserves this.

I want to go with the Capitals because, well, I have them winning the Cup, first of all, and it just seems like they're finally due. This is finally their time to beat Pittsburgh, and I look at how Pittsburgh just dismantled the team. that was supposed to be their nightmare matchup. No. I think it's them again, man. I think so, too. I think it's Pittsburgh. Now, is there an argument to be made

that playing the Leafs in the first round helped Washington? And going one extra game, but not seven, makes them a little bit more battle-ready than Pittsburgh. There's an argument to be made, sure. I mean, it's not like Pittsburgh. They know what they're getting into. They've been here before

They were there last year God Did they sweep them Or was it five I don't know I think it was a sweep Geez Again so many things

Happen in the playoffs It's like blur Also that was a record By the way For most overtimes In first round The Leafs and Caps They tied it

No no The whole first round Oh 18 or something Wasn't there Was it 18 I think it was 18 Which is amazing Because there were

No seven game series And there were two sweeps Wow Pretty incredible I can't I am Searching You ever try to convince yourself

And you have a really hard time doing it I cannot in my head Make the Washington Capitals Beat the Pittsburgh Penguins I have to see it first It went to six games last year Okay They're serious

Yes I cannot You know what The Leafs and the last two games Were not a good example but the Leafs had two easy-of-a-time scoring goals against Washington. I thought that would be the big problem. It's a crowd in front of the net.

And when you've got Gensel and Rust and those guys, I think those guys can cause havoc. And then you have great shooters. You've got Phil Kessel's shot. You've got Evgeny Malkin's shot. You've got Sidney Crosby's shot. That's all you need is those three. Power play versus power play.

You're not scared. And the one thing I do think, you know, in seeing Washington up close, Tom Wilson, extraordinarily effective player against the Leafs Nate Schmidt faster than I thought Wow, he was great Well yeah, he's got a bit of a foot injury But I did find

Washington got a little undisciplined sometimes You know who I was so disappointed with in terms of, obviously as a Leaf fan I was like, this is awesome but someone who was supposed to be such a huge factor

and just was not Kevin Shattenkirk. I was so unimpressed. Me too. So unimpressed with Kevin Shattenkirk. Getting rattled in the media, and then you see it translate on the ice, slamming his stick,

saying, oh, we just need to smile and skate away. And then every single scrum I saw, it was him. It wasn't his teammates. They didn't have a problem with it. It was him. Three assists in six games, so it wasn't useless or anything. He's playing third pairing,

although I guess on Washington that's... I wasn't sure. And on the power play, though. And he was key in one power play goal in particular. You know what it was? It was the power play where Ovi was in the box. And Shattenkirk took over the Ovi spot, realized, I don't know what the hell I'm doing here. And he switched with Carlson.

Carlson and Oshie swoop in and they score the goal. But I was so completely unimpressed with the guy they got to be all in. I was not impressed at all. And everyone's talking about, oh, Leafs going out and getting them this summer. I honestly don't think they will. to be completely blunt I don't think they can afford it and I don't know

if I want them to be able to afford it I think Carl Alsner is a guy that I'm like meh well and then I spoke to Ian Olin from Russian Machine

Never Breaks and they were talking about how he was like the Caps worst defenseman this year but part of that was him coming off

hip surgery so maybe he's better next year but do you ever fully recover from hip surgery this was the thing with Carl Gunnarsson

I don't know anyway I I was really I'm going with the pins on this one I am too Jesse Washington

You're going with Washington Only to be different Or because Washington, Edmonton Stanley Cup Final Is going to happen Well Okay

Can I go against What I had in my own bracket Yeah Because this is the thing If I get it right No matter who wins the series I get to go Called it

Yeah Yeah It's about what you think right now Okay I'm going to go with Washington Because that's what my bracket says But I think Pittsburgh will win

So you're picking Pittsburgh I guess so I'm going with Washington And I will be correct I don't know why I didn't see this coming Again, I should have looked ahead I had Pittsburgh playing Washington In the second round

I wrote down Washington in the third round But I cannot picture The Capitals beating the Penguins in a series Why did I do that? Shark jumping moment And I'm bringing it back to the Leafs on this one And I want to shout out the pension plan puppets for bringing this up. Yes.

So you got some expiring contracts, right? You probably just let Tyler Bozak play, and then maybe you see if you want to re-sign him or whatever, but you let him play. I think you keep Tyler Bozak because what's the problem with having center depth? Pretty cool, right? Especially when your third-line guy is scoring 55 points. Now, that's a career high.

Especially when the Marlies are thin. Thin at center. You got Adam Brooks coming in there, and you hope you'll draft a few more. But you can't draft for position. You've got to draft for player Now If you get Boyle that's great And hopefully you get Boyle

And hopefully you can hang on to him So here's the wild card for me Is JVR I don't see any way that the Leafs can re-sign him And really I don't see How it's going to be smart I think that you've got to have Nylander, Matthews and Marner

Under contract, Nylander is up at the end of next season Matthews and Marner the season after that So you've got to have those guys locked down and locked down for a while, right? You don't want to do the bridge three-year deal and then pay them Subban money. You want to pay them now

and you want to bring, hopefully negotiate them all down a little bit so they all can stay together, right? And then you have Gardner who's up after this year or this coming year, I believe. Pretty sure.

Have a look. No, I think he's up three years. He'll sign until 2019. Is that what he signed till? Yes. Okay, and then obviously you've got Kadri locked up,

Morgan Rielly's locked up. You're going to have to re-sign Nikita Zaitsev. Sounds like they're well on the way of doing that. Connor Brown and Zach Hyman. Yeah, they're up this year. RFAs, though. Hyman's is an interesting

one because you had him on your sort of top line, but he didn't get a whole lot of points. I don't think they get much more than $2 million. I think that's probably right. Okay, so it's fine. That's manageable. Is JVR a decision

you have to make until trade deadline. You don't. You don't. But here's the thing. When you're at trade deadline and you're doing well, okay? Because you assume that the Leafs are going to do well. I'm not saying how well. You just assume listen, they made the playoffs this year. It's a fair assumption to say that they'll be in the mix next year.

Why would you trade a guy that's already entrenched as a part of the team at trade deadline when you're going to the playoffs? So at that point, to me, you don't. Right. So here's your option. Pension plan puppets. suggested this.

JVR has trade value, scored 30 goals this year, right? Or 29, whatever it was. Along there. So he's got value already. Power forward. If you retain on his salary, JVR is a 30-goal, $2.2 million player. You better get the sun and the moon.

Exactly. And that's why I think, here's the thing. We know the Leafs have cap space to spend, Why not retain Trade And get that Get the guy you're looking for Whatever the guy is

Do we have cap space? I think we do I don't think it's as much It's not as much as we think It's not Shattenkirk Cap space that everybody thinks we have And we don't know The overage kicking in

We don't know what's gonna happen Yeah but that's That's not huge guys It's not like No And they're You know they're losing a lot With those Marley's guys heading out

We don't know what's gonna happen With Eric Fair We don't know Roman Polak's off the books Hunwick's off the books I'm not sure Well if Roman Polak comes back It will be for less money

And now you've got a guy Now you've got a Roman Polak And I hate to be cold about this Roman Polak blew out his knee The already slow Roman Polak has blown out his knee That's true too He was a warrior for you He was a great player for you

And I'm being cold hearted here When slow defensemen get slower it's not good but here's the point I'm trying to make is this you know who wasn't that bad

and then he got hurt Mark Fraser okay so here's here's the point though bringing it back to James Van Riemsdyk if you retain on him

who's a team that needs to make a run at it who can't afford James Van Riemsdyk but might be able to squeeze him in at 2.2

are we going to give him to Pittsburgh again or Chicago my thought was Chicago oh there you go my thought was Now, I don't know what you get back. I don't know what you get back.

I don't know if they have any defensive prospects. I didn't have time to look into that because I read the article this morning. Ironically, his brother. Oh, you don't get... You got to get more than Trevor Van Reemstuyck. Trevor Van Reemstuyck is the third pairing guy. Richard Ponick. No, I...

And also, you wouldn't trade brother for brother. Probably just wouldn't happen. Yeah, that'd be mean. Now, I... Or... Anaheim. That. Makes some sense.

Because they are going to need to... They do need to make a move on defense. Anaheim is literally as close to the cap as you can get. Hampus Lindholm is signed. Cam Fowler has upped his game. I wouldn't buy high on Cam Fowler. But I would get somebody... I would call Anaheim.

I would call Carolina. Carolina is an interesting prospect. Because they could actually afford to re-sign him. And having him at a reduced rate... And I know that they're looking at, you know, I think they thought Noah Hannafin would be better. Noah Hannafin's on the trade block, guys. Now, ignoring what it's all for, can the Leafs replace JVR internally? I don't know if they can replace that production right away, but on the wing, look at what they got.

Look at the season Josh Levo had. He had more points than games. He only played nine games. Yeah, fraction of a season that he had. Seth Griffith looked great on the Marlies Kirby Reichel looked great on the Marlies. Kasperi Kapanen? Andreas Johnson well I was going to get to Kasperi Kapanen

who was an NHL player like this is all interesting Kapanen's performance at the end of the season and in the playoffs made me go how does Soshnikov make this team next year Soshnikov was in the lineup ahead of Levo because of the penalty

kill. Kapanen was decent on the penalty kill. He was. How does Sosh stay in the line. And I cannot bring myself to get past the fact that Sosh had nine points. He was playing with Ben Smith and Matt Martin. That's my one regret, is we

didn't get to see a lot of Sosh Boyle. Or did we get any? I don't know. I don't know if we got any. That's a hard one, man. You know what? I think the Leafs are going to make more changes this summer than we think. Because I think that was the plan all along. The plan

all along, if you go with, because the Leafs said today they'll stick to the Shanna plan, I think trading JVR has to be part of it. Was always part of the Shanna plan. With Bozak I think it was a wait and see thing, and it does make some sense to keep him. JVR, you look at

the Leafs' strength. It's the wing. They have scoring wings. You look at what you can get something for. Okay, so you talk about, okay, you lose the 30 goals, right? You lose the 30 goals and the whatever assists. So you got about 60 points this year, right?

I think it was 60. I think it was about 30-30. So, you know, that's a lot. And you lose that net presence, which he brought, which, you know, they don't necessarily have to replace. However, James Van Riemsdyk is, can we just be honest, terrible on defense. He's disappointing on a lot of nights. And when, what was it, the Kessel-Bozak-JVR line scored a lot of goals for the Leafs, but I believe that, did they not allow more than they scored? I believe so, yes.

So, if you get a strong defenseman... Get Mitch Marner a finisher. Okay, you get a strong defenseman, you still have the... So, maybe you can't replace the 30 goals. But what happens if you can lock out 15 to 20 more? And then replace it with a 20 goal scorer? What if Kapanen gets 15 and you can stop 20 more?

Then all of a sudden, that gap is different. It's totally different. Your defense is a year better. I just look at all the possible moves the Leafs could make. I look at who they can and can't replace and to what extent. They can get a lot for JVR, and they can replace him, I think. I feel bad saying that. I like him.

I like him too. But that's their strength. And like I said it earlier, it would suck to see him in another jersey, but it also makes sense. They can't afford to trade a guy like Riley or Gardner. They can't afford to trade a guy like Obviously Matthews But let's go with Kadri

They can't afford to trade Freddie They can afford to trade JVR And you look at a guy like Kasperi Kapanen And imagine if somehow You could figure out a way Because he does And I said it before, he had a great series

But he makes questionable decisions sometimes If you can get him to improve His decision making He's got all the talent I look for the raw Yeah And this is why I'm hesitant to get rid of Sash too Because he's got the raw skill set

You can teach decision making You can't teach great skating Can you teach Sashnikov To do some of the things that JVR does Offensively Can you teach him to be a bastard In front of the net Oh I think

I think so if he wants it Because he's been the guy on the rush Like on the Marlies And on the Leafs He's been the driving force of his line How big is he? Not huge That doesn't matter too much

Six or six one but like a slender frame I think a buck ninety I think you can See we're doing it again We're getting back to our roots where we talk about the Marlies I just think there's Like if you could get Like imagine a Kasperi Kapanen

Like a Kapanen Bozak Marner line Or a Kapanen Matthews Nylander line And you talk about What Zach Hyman brings, he goes and he wins puck battles. He goes and gets the puck. And make no mistake.

Gets a lot of Daryl Boyce assists. Did he not? Yeah, listen, he may have underperformed in terms of points production this year, but he always wins the puck battle. I want him on my team. I don't necessarily know where I want him on my team, but I want him on my team. But I like Zach Hyman with, I like him with Matthews,

because that line's like, it ain't broke, don't fix it. But what about if you were to put him with Kalmarov and Kadri? What about if you were to put him with Marner and Bozak? Oh, that's so annoying. Like, imagine a Komarov-Kadri-Hyman line. That's no fun. Imagine Kasperi Kapanen with Kadri and Komarov. I think that makes a lot of sense.

Well, everybody, welcome to the next two months of the show. I'm just saying. I hope you enjoy it. We have to get to the press conference quickly. Let's do it. The Presser SDP. The Steve Dangle Press Conference Question for Adam

It says at Adam Specifically Okay Was there an at button? There was There's a little at symbol Somebody put shift 2 They did shift 2

Okay I'm moving out of my parents' place this weekend Good for you Any tips on moving slash buying furniture? As the man who's moved 800 times I've only done it once I have moved 800 times I calculated it when I left Calgary

and moved into my mom's house again I had moved in 8 years I think it was 12 plus times I have never had an apartment where I signed a lease and stayed the whole time because of breakups because of radio

never once so here's the deal you're not going to have a lot of money and chances if you're moving out of your parents place Company's not moving you, right? So you've got to move your own stuff out. That's fine.

Get as many friends involved as you can. Buy them pizza and beer. That's important. That's number one. You need a team of people to help you. Okay? We helped someone move on the weekend. And because there was like 15 of us, it was super efficient.

Flew through it. It was a lot of fun. Good chance to hang out with your friends. So if you've got good friends who are reliable, get them to show up early. You'll be done by 2 p.m. You won't have a lot of stuff. Number two. The most important thing that you can do when moving

is getting your house to functional. So wherever you're moving to, you will find that if you add stress to yourself, if you don't have internet ready, if you can't find dishes, that sort of thing. What functionally do I need every day? Focus on that first for your unpacking. Get your kitchen set up,

get your internet set up, your TV, and obviously your bed. Those are the first three things that you worry about You know bathroom yeah you need a toothbrush And some deodorant but what else do you need beyond that Right it's like it's and then start To you know the rest of it takes time But get that functional spot

First figure out what you need on day one Our buddy's screwed up have you been reading the text Yeah he can't find His drill he needs his drill Right now for these first Few days where he moved to He needs his drill doesn't have his drill Can't find it

Can't find it. If there's anything essential you need in the first two or three days, you pack it yourself and you put it in your car. You don't put it in the moving truck. You put it in your car. Causes extra stress if you can't. And you won't. The thing is, is that stress, if you can't find that stuff,

it colors negatively the place you've moved into. Because you go, because I've moved into this place and I can't find this. And I'm not, I'm always hungry. I can't, or I can't, I'm always spending money on food because I can't cook because I can't find my pots and pants. That stuff's important. So make sure you do that because you don't want to put undue stress

on yourself early on. The last thing I would say is make sure, if you can, get in and clean the place before you move into it. It's so important that you, like you're going to move couches and you're going to move beds and you're going to do that stuff.

Give that damn carpet a vacuum. And if you can, rent a steamer from a local grocery store for 20 bucks and steam the carpet. trust me because summer is coming and guess what happens with carpet in the summer

it gets hot and the smells come out and that's fun so you want to make sure that you get in there just clean it up because you it will make you feel like

the place is yours because it will get dirty but you'll be like at least it's my dirt at least it's my dirt I created it so I'm comfortable in my own filth

and you need to work on self confidence sorry I feel like we're always giving like life advice those are just the things that help me those are my three things

Bradwell Bradwell? Bradwell I just want to congratulate you on your all-star appearance on the lacrosse team in the United States Hey guys Would it be alright if I started the Steve Dangle podcast podcast

where I listen to the podcast and then talk about what happened So it would be like a S-D-R Steve Dangle reaction You're going to have to talk to my buddies Justin and Nate who already have that It's called Full Strength You should check it out

It's a good show They talk about hockey Wrestling and us So I think Bradwell Should definitely start this I agree And I will give a listen

I would listen On the first episode Yeah man do it And probably never On any other episode I freaking love that But I'll listen to the first one I love that

Listen to it I would do it I would do it Go ahead and do it man I actually I should shout out Justin He introduced My wife and I

And we started dating Ten years ago today Oh Congratulations On your ten year Meetiversary Meetiversary What's the next thing you think Mrs. Dangle will trip, fall, and buy?

That's from Floman on Reddit. I told her, I go, I love everything you've bought recently. I love the experiences you've given us. We need to cool it. We need to cool it for a little bit. So I think we're going to have a relatively, we got to chill this summer. We have enough tickets already. We've only got 12 Blue Jays games to go to.

So she sold three or four pairs recently, so that was good. Oh, she sold them. For face value? Face value, so that's fine. Fair. You're lucky you got that. Yeah. Yes, we are.

The MLB's worst team. It was $20 a ticket. But I was like, okay, we got some tickets. That's good. We have too many weddings this summer to be able to afford to go on a crazy trip. You might do a road trip in the car. Weddings are so expensive. Caprice and I haven't even bothered

even looking at well you guys are in the winter so like at least we get a little extra prep time it's when they're back to back to back oh no no I'm not talking about our wedding

I'm talking about like going on a vacation we're just not it wasn't even a question it was like we won't be oh like a honeymoon well yeah we haven't even

we haven't talked we haven't started talking about that don't wait too long on that don't wait too long on that that was what my parents always warned me of because they went on like a mini vacation

they took a train ride to Quebec City after they got married with plans of going on another trip at some time in the near future. And then you popped up. Well, then their next trip, the next time they were on an airplane is when they went to Jamaica, I think it was three years ago. Wow.

Oh, wow. Yeah, 25 years. Wow, flying had changed in that time. I think it was, no, it might have been more. It was close to 30 years before they had their honeymoon. Wow. Yeah, so be careful. Okay.

Oh, what's the next thing? Jesse. Let's make a prediction now Will the Dangles have their second dog by Christmas this year Yes or no 100% yes You think yes See I think I love Steve

And I know he's going to fight this But I think he might get overruled on this one Like I think it might just pop into your lap I don't think it's a choice I don't think it's a choice either I think it's more of she's just going to go do it She's going to power move you man Pucker factor

I just wanted to say that Pucker Factor Something that Pierre Maguire said a lot And it made me uncomfortable What does that mean? I don't know Pucker Factor

Pierre Maguire made that He said it a lot And I saw a tweet Being like I wish Pierre Maguire Would just stop saying Pucker Factor It's making me weird

Can you believe You said Pucker Factor? I think Babcock Said it first And then Pierre picked it up I don't think You have a choice I think she'll go out

And do it one day And you'll come home And there'll be a dog It's a unilateral decision That's what you think Did you have a choice When you got your first bird? First bird?

Yes. What about the second bird? No. Did you have a choice when you got your first dog? Yes. Second dog. Did you have a choice when you got your first pack of Jays tickets? Shit!

I think they're going to have another dog by Christmas. Oh, no! No! Well, they've got a backyard that's totally fit. Yeah. No. No. Okay, what I've tried to tell her is we already have four dogs.

We have Iggy and we have the three neighbor dogs that always come over because we literally ripped a hole in the fence. So they wouldn't dig under it. Yes. We, at any given point, and they come in the house. Yeah. They come in the house. It's like a Christmas story that bumpers his dogs.

Yeah. At any given point, especially because the summer's coming up, we could have at least three dogs in our house. Here we go. So what's one more? What's one more? Yeah. God damn it.

No. They're going to get another dog. Yeah. We're not getting another dog. We're not getting another dog. Nope. Do you think you'd get a rescue dog or do you think you would do I'm kind of insisting on a rescue

She really wants a golden doodle Again which You can rescue those I kind of do too They're very hard They're very few and far between Most of the dogs Because we've looked at dogs

We've emailed and done some calls You're not getting a dog but you've looked at dogs Just to see I know we're getting a fucking dog That's Mark Bergevin saying Oh we've picked up the phone with P.K. Subban but we're not going to trade them. You're Mark Bergevand-ing right now.

It's happening. When Subban and Mark Bergevand used to hang out, who are you texting, Mark? No one. No one. No, but like golden doodles are, they're very few and far between. And the problem we're having is so many rescues,

they're like, like it says in the description, cannot live with another dog. Oh, yeah. Well, that's a huge problem because you have another dog. That was our experience was that if you are going to rescue a dog,

Like, make sure. And I made, there was a lot of dogs I had to cross off the list. They're probably great dogs, but if it said no kids or no kids under the age of 12, well, I'm probably going to have kids one day. So, I can't get that dog. And that's another one that we looked at, too. So, you know, it doesn't get along with other dogs. I don't, I mean, dog bites my kid. Like, Jesus Christ.

No, dog's gone. See you. Bye, dog. Yeah. So, and I don't want that to happen either. So, like, once I have the dog, I want to have it. So, I don't know. And also, hypoallergenic makes sense in a lot of cases.

I will never begrudge people for getting, and I say this as a person who rescued a dog. If rescuing works for you, if you can make it work, that's the avenue I recommend. However, if it doesn't work for you for whatever reason, I don't want you to get, I wouldn't want you to rescue because if you rescued the wrong dog and then turned it back in again, you're doing damage to the dog, which happens to people because they don't pay attention to this stuff. Well, and here's my personal experience. I didn't grow up with dogs I grew up hating dogs I got bit by a dog When I was very young

And I was afraid of dogs For a very long time Took me a long time To get over that fear My wife Loved dogs But never had one So neither of us

Were dog people Then we bought a puppy And it was a fucking angel And now we're dog people So because of this dog That we bought And we're evil Because we bought

You're not evil We'll probably rescue Yeah In the future Multiple times probably So The great thing about Iggy If you do rescue

Is if you get an anxious dog like Bindi was. Bindi is not even close to what she was. Six months from the rescue point to later on, they are a completely different dog. What you have is another dog. That's really great because Iggy is happy and well-adjusted

and he will be able to lead that dog. That's the great thing. If you can find a dog that's cool with other dogs, it will decrease the anxiety tenfold because you have the dog. Bindi and Iggy. Friends forever. Friends forever. Until she gets straight on him.

And then Iggy's like Okay I'm sorry That's only for a second She gets a little She gets a little Nippy sometimes I'm like You need to chill

That dog can end you No No he cannot Doesn't have that Killer instinct No Well yes he does For bunnies

To me Iggy is Iggy is you in dog form It's me in dog form A pushover No just A pushover Adam Happy and Neutered

And Getting a second dog Anyway What are you gonna name Your second dog That's a good question. What NHL are you naming it after? It makes sense to have Iggy and Crosby.

You're not going to name it Austin? Pauston. Pauston! Yes! I don't know. It's got to match the dog. We'll see. We're not getting another dog, okay?

So we'll never have to know the answer. Willie's a good name. Just saying. Going out there. Anyway, we'll see you on Thursday. Bye! Follow the guys on Twitter at Steve underscore Dangle. at Adam W-Y-L-D

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