The Steve Dangle Podcast - The Steve Dangle Podcast - Apr 26, 2016 - Shorks

Episode Date: April 26, 2016

On this episode, the guys talk about playoff madness, Steve makes a bold Sharks prediction, and some of the guys get gifts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Panago Pizza presents S.T.P. The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde. You know what? Screw the Blues. Wow! Screw them and the horse they rode in on. How? What? You can't just start the show like that, Adam! I can't! Everyone is cheering for the St. Louis Blues this morning!
Starting point is 00:00:21 No one is cheering for the St. Louis Blues! How dare you! Everyone is cheering for the St. Louis Blues! No one is cheering for the St. Louis Blues! Why do you say so? Because anybody with any sense would have picked Chicago over St. Louis. You guys picked him on a wing and a prayer And now you get to bask in your own awesomeness But there is no damn way
Starting point is 00:00:34 That anybody with any sort of intelligent sense Picks the St. Louis Blues going into this series That's just so interesting, Jesse Do you want to Google translate on what he just said? He thinks we have no sense Because we picked the St. Louis Blues Wait, what was the right choice? I think the right choice
Starting point is 00:00:50 Now correct me if I'm wrong When you pick a playoff bracket Your intention, your main goal If you will is to pick the winning team. Oh, I thought you were supposed to pick the losing team. Oh, well, see, now you goofed up. Did I goof up or did someone else?
Starting point is 00:01:06 You know what? Screw you guys. Screw you guys. I hope St. Louis loses the next series. I hope they lose in three games, okay? I hope they lose in three, maybe two. Wow. You think this is the AHL, Adam?
Starting point is 00:01:18 Walk away. Walk away. Just walk away. Just walk away. Doesn't happen like that, buddy. Well. Well. Well.
Starting point is 00:01:26 How are you feeling? Damn. How are you feeling with that ruined, all the way ruined bracket? I woke up this morning to literally 10 tweets of people going, rest in peace, Adam Wilde's bracket. Oh my God. I have gotten my butt handed to me in the playoffs this year. Like, I did pretty well last year.
Starting point is 00:01:42 This year has just been bad. All the way around. Bad, bad, bad. I don't even remember who I picked in the Panthers-Islanders series. Well, and the thing is, it's not even just who's won. It's the amount of game in the series. Who would have thought that we'd be looking at a Ducks-Preds seventh game? I did.
Starting point is 00:02:01 You did? Did you actually call that? You know what? He did. Wow. But who did you say was going to win? Anaheim. Anaheim.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I'm going to get that right. Good, because you're all right. They have to win. I said Anaheim in five. Man, so did I. I took L.A. over San Jose. L.A. was my big loss, too. That's a bracket hurt.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Someone here picked San Jose, and that's me. Oh, my God. Jesse. Of course, Jesse. Of course. Who else? Like, really. Now, Jesse, did you pick Dallas to beat Minnesota in 4-2?
Starting point is 00:02:30 I had four games. I think I had a sweep. I think I had four or four-one. I think I had five. And, yeah, and the thing is, too, it drives me crazy. There's no way. Like, truly, the way the Islanders won that last game, there was kind of like a couple blown calls.
Starting point is 00:02:46 A couple? Maybe. I felt as though maybe Florida deserved to win that game. uh they you know what so many people love the put your whistles away approach and it is absolutely the right thing to do until it's not until the game is on the line there's a guy with an empty net and he gets tripped like the guys congratulations to the new york islanders i talk mad smack about them i didn't think they could pull it off and they had thomas grice and net and holy smokes they pulled it off
Starting point is 00:03:18 and look at them going on to round two the Panthers were robbed in game six doesn't mean they would have won game seven hey
Starting point is 00:03:26 who knows maybe the Islanders tie that game up and win it in overtime anyway but they were robbed and we were robbed we were robbed
Starting point is 00:03:32 of an all Florida second round which would have been cool that would have been so cool actually Adam it would have been warm ah you see
Starting point is 00:03:39 because ah ah ah ah ah that was a good one I bet you didn't know
Starting point is 00:03:45 I'm a dad soon to be hey you calm down I'm just starting pregnancy rumors for Steve Steve is pregnant maybe don't do that I am already a dog father and
Starting point is 00:03:59 in all honesty I mean it looked everything else kind of played out the way it should have Tampa definitely should have beaten Detroit Washington oh yeah you had Detroit going far didn't you yeah yeah see can't have them all
Starting point is 00:04:14 Jesse, can't have them all. Washington definitely should have beaten Philadelphia, and I don't even think they should have let Philly win two games. I really felt like Washington should have swept that series. Game four could have gone either way. Game five, if they replay that
Starting point is 00:04:30 game ten times, the Caps win nine. They just happen to lose that one. But you see the value now in taking out a team even a game earlier than expected. Or a game later than expected.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Heading into the playoffs, if I told you Caps-Penguins first round, who would you have picked? Caps. Caps, undeniably, and so would have I. Jesse? Caps. Undeniably, and so would have I. Now it's round two. The Caps got banged up by the Flyers for six games.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Yep. The Penguins had a cup of tea against the New York Rangers. I mean, with all due respect to the Rangers, the Penguins barely broke a sweat. Now who do you got? And, I mean, it was such a drubbing that the new NY Ragnars on Twitter tweeted that Lundqvist is gone. You really got to give the social media coordinator for the New York Ragnars. Oh, goodness. What a career.
Starting point is 00:05:27 What a star-studded career Henrik Lundqvist had. If you missed it, Steve, can you give some background to that? Well, oh. No, no, no, you don't have to say whom. But what happened? What happened? So there's this reporter. who basically, he retweeted an account that said,
Starting point is 00:05:47 Henrik Lundqvist has retired. And this is, by the way, this is like 20 minutes after the Rangers got eliminated from the playoffs. So, immediate red flag. Yeah, because there's no way Henrik Lundqvist goes, tonight I'm done. Yeah, and right away, even if he just right after the game is like, I am done.
Starting point is 00:06:04 The Henrik Lundqvist era is over. Done. Terminated. This was my last game as a New York Ranger. Even if that was true I doubt the Rangers Would be like Rushing to tweet that out Right
Starting point is 00:06:20 Rushing to tweet it out I don't think they would be doing that And this reporter goes Oh my goodness What a way to go out Gets pulled in his last two games And all this And the tweet comes from
Starting point is 00:06:29 The NY Ragnars Not the New York Rangers account It's like There's one reporter From ESPN Pierre Lebrun Who What is it
Starting point is 00:06:40 There's like a Real underscore Lebrun ESPN and then a real LeBron underscore ESPN. So many fake accounts. And it's so close that everybody get it. I mean, I think that account broke several trades that were untrue several trade deadlines ago.
Starting point is 00:06:54 And people go, and they can't retweet it fast enough. Everyone. Check the blue check mark. I've said it before. I've said it again, or I'll say it again. Give it a second.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Wait. Wait. But I got to be first. See, the real account is real underscore ESPN LeBron. and then the fake account is real ESPN LeBron. So the real account doesn't have the underscore. By the way, that's why I'm Steve underscore Dangle, by the way. Someone else had Steve Dangle?
Starting point is 00:07:24 Someone else had Steve Dangle, and I didn't find out until months later. It was actually someone from Nike who noticed I didn't have a Twitter account, so they reserved it for me. And I'm like, what? But then they just weren't paying attention for a while. They weren't paying attention for a while, and I'm like, but I already have followers on this one now. I'm not
Starting point is 00:07:41 I'm not ah but you could have just changed your name you could have just changed the handle well now it's been in several hundred
Starting point is 00:07:47 several hundred episodes of this show saying Steve underscore Dangle fancy voice lady and handsome voice man and yep
Starting point is 00:07:55 it's just my handle now that's just what it is now wow wow that's you well that's my life um
Starting point is 00:08:03 and the thing was that ESPN LeBron thing that was when you had to put real in your name Because there was no verified on Twitter So you could have been talking
Starting point is 00:08:13 There were fake celebrities everywhere back in the day It was the wild west You weren't sure who you were talking to By the way, there is a presidential candidate With real in their Twitter handle Really? Which one? Donald Trump Oh, I didn't realize that
Starting point is 00:08:27 Who has at Donald Trump on Twitter? That's a good question That's a really good question By the way, if you're not already There's a guy out there And you can just Google this Donald Trump is an egg The real at Donald Trump is an egg with 5,000 followers.
Starting point is 00:08:42 That's cool. Yep. That's cool. Most of them Donald Trump fans who would follow an egg instead of the one with his picture on it. Again, people who just can't wait. There he is! Found him! Got him!
Starting point is 00:08:54 Tag him and bag him! There is a guy who's, I believe, verified, and he's got 40 or 50,000 followers, who is Ted Cruz's roommate in college. and he said that they were talking about self-pleasure and how Ted Cruz thinks that that's an issue.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Oh, like indulging in a bowl of ice cream. Yeah, well, more of a bedroom pleasure, a sexual pleasure, you might say. Oh, like playing video games. No.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't think... Jesse's got it. Jesse's got it. So, yeah, so anyway, this guy said that Ted Cruz thinks that that's a public health risk.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I can tell you that in college, Ted Cruz did not think that that was a public health risk. Oh, my goodness. It was good times. But what does Andrew Peters think about all this? Well, has there been any follow-up from that?
Starting point is 00:09:36 Absolutely not. He hasn't responded at all? No, and there's no reason to. Why would he? What would he say? What would he add? I don't have a HockeyDB page, Adam. You do now.
Starting point is 00:09:47 There were several tweeted at us, and they were great. That's true. Someone made me a HockeyDB page, and my picture is Iggy with a stick. Amazing. Amazing. Anyway, back to hockey for a second. Yes. You know.
Starting point is 00:09:59 So we've got... You know. We've got some matchups here that we should talk about for the second round, especially because by the time most people listen to this show, the Ducks and Preds game will be over, and we'll have a win of one of the two. So we'll start with that second round series, okay? So we've got the Ducks or Preds versus the Sharks. No matter what team wins here, does it stop the Sharks?
Starting point is 00:10:21 You know, there's another example of I would have taken the Ducks, but the Sharks win in five, Ducks have to go seven. I'm having a real hard time. And Brent Burns looked unstoppable. And Martin Jones. And Martin Jones looked stop-ing-able. That's a word. That's a word now.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I kind of think the Sharks probably take the Ducks or the Preds. Ducks might take a nastier chunk out of them. I think the Sharks just might make the conference final this year. The Predators have been surprising with how gritty they are. Because they're not a high-scoring team, even with Johansson. And it just seems like they're still living in the Barry Trotz era without Barry Trotz.
Starting point is 00:11:08 They're still defensive. Never have been. In one year, they were loaded offensively, and I think they got knocked out round one. Yeah. That's when they had Peter Forsberg for a very, very, very short amount of time. So that one, you think Sharks now? I'm thinking Sharks now.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I'm thinking Sharks. All right, we've got Dallas, and we've got St. Louis. Again, I hope it's three games we've been St. Louis' out in three. No. Even though it's not mathematically possible. So, you know who was bad this year? Who? The Leafs.
Starting point is 00:11:37 No kidding. You know who else was bad this year? Who? Montreal Canadiens. True. I bet if some crazy billionaire just came along and was like, I will pay you all millions of dollars, every player on each team, I'll pay you millions of dollars to have a seven-game series right now.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Go. So, let's pretend the Leafs and Habs had a series right now. I bet you it would be really good because it'd be two relatively even skill sets. Yeah, relatively bad teams. Although if Carey Price is playing, then it's a little— Does Carey Price get to play? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Because he's probably still not better. But I don't know. That's another conversation for another day. I think that series would be good for the same reason that Minnesota-Dallas was good. That was the best junior hockey series I've seen in a while. Holy smokes! No goalie could stop a beach ball. It was brutal.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Who do you know, Adam? I don't. I don't know him. Well, there you go. There you go. The best goalie in that series, safe percentage-wise, was Kerry Letnan. If the best goalie in your playoff series is Kerry Letnan, you had a rough series.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Dubnick was terrible. Well, he also got lit up. Yep. Not all his fault. Dallas Stars have a lot of firepower. And Ante Niemi was even worse. It was just brutal. It was just brutal.
Starting point is 00:13:01 And you know, I don't know if you know this, Adam. I have a deep, bitter hatred of the Minnesota Wild. I didn't know that. I don't, actually. Which is why it's awkward that I have the eulogy on Puck Daddy for the Minnesota Wild. Open? I've been, no, no, no, I'm still writing it. It might be up by the time people hear this.
Starting point is 00:13:24 But I've been waiting years to write a eulogy for Puck Daddy. So I was like, oh, I'll write any of them. I'll take the Wild. And then afterwards, I was like, why did I pick the Wilds? Hey, whatever, man. Okay, so you're going to be on Puck Daddy. But I got it figured out. Now, here's the question.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Did the Stars really get a chunk taken out of them by the Wilds? I don't think so. I don't think so either, but I bet they feel pretty human. And then I look at the Blues, and holy smokes how good they had to be, especially in Game 7. And, oh, God, that was just such a war. Can I just make a prediction right now? Sharks, Stanley Cup Final.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Wow. Because you think the Sharks will beat the Blues. I think the Sharks will beat either of Anaheim or Nashville. The Blues will probably beat the Stars, but they're just going to be so beat up by the time they get to the conference final. I think the Sharks are able to handle them. They go to the Stanley Cup Final. This might be the Sharks' year, man.
Starting point is 00:14:22 It might be. Now, Dallas is hilarious to me because they remind me of, they're like the Toronto Raptors of this year's NHL playoffs. really good in the regular season high scoring high flying and you get to the playoffs and there were not not just contenders man people were dying to be that this year the caps were trying to be it for a while the sharks finally stopped being it that was neat yeah blues yeah tried to be that for a while well it will be very interesting to see how st louis handles that high power dallas offense if they can figure out a way to contain it which they have the personnel to do
Starting point is 00:14:56 By the way, 21 goals in six games for the Stars without Tyler Sagan. Is he coming back for this series? He's done for the year is what I'm hearing. Oh, really? Yeah. Because Lindy Ruff was updating game by game. Saying, oh, he's not playing game two. He's not playing game three.
Starting point is 00:15:14 He's not playing game four. I will bring that up. Interesting. That would be a huge hit. With Sagan, they might have a chance. Without, eh, go to bed. All right, we've got the Islanders in Tampa Bay. man all of a sudden more interesting now now that florida's lost wasn't i so right though
Starting point is 00:15:32 about how the islanders handle handled florida i don't even remember who i picked in that one but i said i bet florida and their youth and their skill all of it all very admirable i bet they struggle against the kind of kind of playoff tested islanders even though the islanders haven't made the second round since 93 yeah which is incredible but you're right i mean they've been to the they've they made the playoffs they've lost in the playoffs they know what it is and now finally they're not the young team anymore they're still pretty young but they're not the youngest on the ice and you know what i discovered in the series i said i wasn't scared of the new york islanders heading into the playoffs i'm still not i'm still not you know who i am scared of
Starting point is 00:16:13 john taveras how many players in this league have true beast mode like just turn it on an ability to turn it on, and you are not stopping them. You cannot. Maybe 10? Maybe. Maybe. Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin, help me out. You know? I think that's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:38 There's less than 10. You might add John Tavares to that group. Holy smokes. When he wanted to take over the series, he did. That's all he did. They took him out in six. So, now they take on the Lightning. Who are pretty deep. Now, I got a tweet this morning.
Starting point is 00:16:53 You're going to love this. Stamkos is skating on the fourth line for the Lightning. Interesting. I wonder how close he is to coming back. I don't know. Because the last report was it's unlikely he'll return before the final. I don't know. Just saying.
Starting point is 00:17:11 He heals like a freaking maniac, though. If he's back, it would just be like hell. He really is like a Zerg. Yeah. Yeah, him and Carlson. I don't know how to do it. Yeah, yeah. These young kids these days, they heal up like bugs.
Starting point is 00:17:23 It's unbelievable. Tampa is deep but they don't have that John Tavares type you would give that to Stephen Stamkos maybe but he's not playing
Starting point is 00:17:32 and he had such a hard time becoming that last year too you know who might be that is Victor Hedman I thought Alex Petrangelo looked very Victor Hedman like
Starting point is 00:17:42 in the way he kind of took over the game for the Blues but I think this is going to be another even series and here's I'm just going to
Starting point is 00:17:51 throw it out there the Sharks again they might win it all the Caps and Penguins are about to go through a war now this is this is the series that everybody wanted and this is the series that we as NHL fans deserve absolutely but it's going to be a war and whoever comes out of it is going to come out of it broken
Starting point is 00:18:10 Tampa Islanders I think is going to be a war and whoever comes out of it is going to come out busted up then they got to play each other and they're just going to kind of limp into the octagon to take on who? No matter what, it's going to be a Western Conference opponent. And that's just so not fun. True.
Starting point is 00:18:31 So, so not fun. It's so funny because so many of the beasts, or two of the major beasts went down, and potentially three went down, the California teams, I guess with the exception of San Jose. So imagine the
Starting point is 00:18:47 Ducks don't win tonight. So you've got the Ducks, you've got Chicago, and you've got Los Angeles out in the first round. Unbelievable. You see that guy who tweeted that he would get a tattoo of Gary Bettman on his butt if Chicago and L.A. both got eliminated first round? Oh, and he's got to do it. He tweeted it months ago, and it's funny because you just see his tweets every few weeks,
Starting point is 00:19:09 like, this is bad. And then a couple days ago, he's just like, so right cheek or left? I would love to see if he does it. Poor guy. Poor, poor guy. um do you really think though that like who comes out of this series because your your default is to think capitals on this one mostly because they had such an unbelievable season but it it showed in the first round just how cohesive the pittsburgh unit has become and it's so funny because if you told us this in december we'd have been like i don't think they're gonna make the playoffs and
Starting point is 00:19:45 if you told us this in february we were talking about on the show like it was well philly pittsburgh And Detroit I mean we're not sure Who's going to make it Out of those three All three ended up making it But it was It was a crapshoot
Starting point is 00:19:55 And all of a sudden Pittsburgh turned it on You know what The I told all the Penguins fans I told them Look out for playoff Phil Kessel
Starting point is 00:20:05 Playoff Phil Kessel Is really really really fun And he's fantastic Now the one thing I would say though Is goals For Kessel And goals for the Penguins
Starting point is 00:20:17 Likewise have been oxygen. They need them. It's like an exponential thing. They get one, and one turns into four or five. If they don't get that one, they have a really, really hard time getting it. They fight for it, and they're almost fighting themselves.
Starting point is 00:20:34 You can do that against a struggling Henrik Lundqvist slash anti-Ranta and get away with it. Slash team that's kind of over the hill. Team that's kind of over the hill. I kind of feel bad for the Rangers. I think we just... They're kind of done. they're agony done
Starting point is 00:20:48 like if they make the playoffs next year would anyone be shocked no but it's just this slow decay it's going to kind of happen this Detroit like decay they're starting to lose hair they're going bald a little bit but Pittsburgh now has to go up against the Holt Beast
Starting point is 00:21:05 yes who wasn't even the best goalie in the last series that he played in and I bet he's not feeling so good about that I bet he's going to come out in round 2 absolutely ridiculous Okay, now what about the Pittsburgh's goaltending situation and Aleksandr Ovechkin against that?
Starting point is 00:21:22 Good luck. Good luck, man. It doesn't matter who's in net. Would it matter if it was Marc-Andre Fleury or Matt Murray? Everyone's afraid of that shot. Everyone is afraid of that shot. It would matter a little more if it was your starting goaltender. It would.
Starting point is 00:21:38 It would. I think you definitely prefer it to be Marc-Andre Fleury. Especially because Marc-Andre Fleury was there the last time these two teams played and has been there basically every time. Matt Murray looked good. He did. Matt Murray looked good. Jeff Zatkoff, I think, was better than a lot of people thought he was going to be.
Starting point is 00:21:54 But, again, I'm so gun-shy because last round I was like, ah, Thomas Grice! And then he out-dueled Luongo. That's going to be a war, man. It's going to be the war we all deserve. I hope it goes seven, and I hope seven is better than the last seven. Do you remember that? wasn't the last game
Starting point is 00:22:14 like 6-2 or something it was 6-2 or 6-1 and I remember like canceling plans I'm like I am watching
Starting point is 00:22:20 game 7 of Pittsburgh Washington it's gonna be the best hockey game of all time utter blow up and it's funny
Starting point is 00:22:25 after that one Washington went through a bit of a 2 or 3 year kind of spin and it messed them up for a while
Starting point is 00:22:34 I want to say the next year they won the President's Trophy and they got the Habs in the first round and Halak slammed the door.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Remember the Halak year? Yeah, the Halak year. The Caps, man, they haven't conquered their demons yet. They haven't conquered their demons yet. They got this far last year and they were close and I actually thought they'd get through
Starting point is 00:23:00 and they just couldn't do it. They should have got through. Every year they should get through. I think if they beat Pittsburgh, well, obviously they'll feel good. Great analysis, Steve. But that'll be a bit of a boogeyman that they conquered. It sucks.
Starting point is 00:23:18 You've got to conquer your boogeyman to make it to the Stanley Cup Final, but your boogeyman is your inability to make the Stanley Cup Final. Yeah. They just got to do it. You just got to play. You're right. The time they lost to Pittsburgh, the next year they won the President's Trophy and then lost in the first round to the Canadians.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Because Jaroslav Halak stopped everything. He almost took them to the Stanley Cup final. Yep. Before we end this segment, I want to just do a little bit of a shout-out. Shout-out? To people of our own kind. The announcers.
Starting point is 00:23:53 The announcers of the world. Because Pat Foley, the Chicago Blackhawks, he's their local guy, had quite the rant. And I think he wins MVP announcing of the first round, even though his team is out. And he was a little upset about the fact that the Cavs, or the Chicago Blackhawks
Starting point is 00:24:12 had to start at 9.42. Or was it 8.42? I think it was 8.42 local time. Which would have made it like 9.42 here. And he was upset about that. So here's what he had to say. No, the other way around. Oh, my bad.
Starting point is 00:24:26 A tremendous series between two great teams here. And it has been compelling theater. The games in a tied or one goal game, 96% of the time so far. But this is the third time In five games, the start time of 8.42 local was mandated. I can say with certainty, players cannot stand these late starts. Coaches cannot stand them.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Most importantly, the fans can't stand them. So as we approach midnight Eastern again, on a work night, a school night, a simple question. An 8.42 puck drop. And they cut him off. Could have gone on a commercial. Now, guys, that means it's a 9.42 start time in Toronto. Yes. Which Jesse and I were just debating
Starting point is 00:25:10 Yes You guys were like It is No no Yeah I thought that was great I thought that was great That they just
Starting point is 00:25:17 It just went off And he makes a good point They are the Chicago Blackhawks They are the defending Stanley Cup champions Why are they taking a back seat In terms of timing Well Adam
Starting point is 00:25:27 If Pat Foley doesn't like it Maybe he should do another job Where he can go to bed on time Shut up Mike Oh Oh are we Oh I have that too Oh go ahead Mike
Starting point is 00:25:37 Here's Mike Milbury weighing in on it. You see eight Eastern time. You know what? And if that's too late for certain announcers, I think they should just let somebody else call the game and stay home and get a good night's rest because 8 o'clock it is. And we do that just so we can get everybody involved and all the games on. Lots of games.
Starting point is 00:25:56 We do a good job showing them. By the way, that's 7 Central. So. So. You want people watching or not, Mike? You want people watching or not? And Gary Bettman said no one minds Despite the fact that reporters were like
Starting point is 00:26:12 Actually the players mind a lot And lots of people complaining on Twitter I don't blame the Chicago Blackhawks for that I don't blame them at all I don't blame the fans They're the team that won the cup last year And have had what now in seven years I guess three cups in seven years
Starting point is 00:26:26 It was three and six I would think that they are deserving of Priority Forget priority And they're Chicago It's a massive city Logic who starts at almost
Starting point is 00:26:38 9 o'clock local logic here's your brain who starts this isn't the UFC although most of that's in Vegas but seriously that's too late
Starting point is 00:26:49 it's way too late and if you lose the east coast who cares about the west no offense to all the folks out on the west you just know it to be true yeah there's more people in the east
Starting point is 00:26:59 Sportsnet 590 the fan we are the Steve Dangle podcast when we come back our favorite Russian is coming back to the NHL. Allegedly. Allegedly. This story is an exercise in
Starting point is 00:27:11 what the difference between what Russian players tell North American reporters and what Russian players tell Russian reporters is. And what Russian reporters tell North American reporters and what North American reporters tell North American readers, which then Russian
Starting point is 00:27:27 players read, and then they have to tell Russian reporters what to tell North American reporters. And holy smokes! Is he coming or not so alexander radulov according to an interview from russia with simian varlamov all he has to do to come back is call patrick waugh and patrick will make it happen oh there it is head coach patrick waugh will somehow make that happen with joe sakic i'm assuming they asked joe about this when this story broke joe said no comment interesting and they've got interesting things happening there because in colorado they can't spend the cap like a normal
Starting point is 00:28:00 team they have a smaller budget um from what i understand anyway i've heard they're kind of budget conscious plus you've got tysonberry and nathan mckinnon who are restricted free agents and you got to figure out what to do with them and you've got gabriel lannis called locked up you've got matt duchesne locked up like i mean it's they're they might have some issues going into this year can i just say the avalanche are in some ways like the oilers and oilers fans will be like thank you and avalanche fans i think will be insulted but i think they're a cautionary tale for the leafs always bringing it back to the leafs too bad i think they're a cautionary tale because you can load up with high-end young talent and they can be incredible players
Starting point is 00:28:45 individually and if you're rebuilding that's fine but there is a timer there is a bit of a tiktok effect going there and if you don't get good in about three or four years if you if you don't get real good or i guess in the avalanches case stay real good in about three four years now you're kind of screwed now you're in a lot of trouble because now you're not good and all the young cheap players that were propping you up are now young expensive players that's kind of what they're having to deal with and then you sign yourself into mediocrity like the leafs have done Like the Leafs have done in the past, not in that way, but the Oilers have certainly done it. Well, I mean, what I'm talking about is like, remember out of the first lockout, the Leafs signed Darcy Tucker and Matt Sundin and Brian McCabe and all these guys to massive deals that lasted five or six years with no movement clauses, all of them, all of them.
Starting point is 00:29:46 And for whatever reason, they thought that that would be good enough. And so they were stuck with those five guys. They called them the Muskoka Five, Cabralet as well. They were stuck with those five guys for years and years and years and paid the price and never made the playoffs. And then you put yourself in the, well, I guess we'll try this position, which is what I think Radulov would be. Now, Elliott Friedman reporting, looking at his Twitter here,
Starting point is 00:30:12 some of the teams he thinks are in on Radulov, the Red Wings, the Panthers, and the Capitals. and he said Colorado is considered the favorite. Then he tweeted, just looking for it here, he has reason to believe that the Washington and Colorado reports are not true. Which is weird because I would have assumed Colorado would be the favorite. Now, Washington, you think about that, and right off the top of your head you go,
Starting point is 00:30:42 that makes sense because Russians, you know, they got Ovechkin. Makes sense. Kuznetsov, that makes sense. Dmitry Orlov, that makes sense. Andre Burakovsky I'm not actually sure where he's from he just has a long last name
Starting point is 00:30:56 he's just got a long last name the head coach is Barry Trotz you think he wants to deal with that again yeah because he was the one that along with
Starting point is 00:31:04 the general manager in Nashville suspended them in the second round of the playoffs second round for missing curfew in the playoffs
Starting point is 00:31:10 Kostitsyn right Sergei Sergei Kostitsyn and Alex Radulov it'll be interesting he's an NHL player there's no doubt about it like skill wise
Starting point is 00:31:21 he's an NHL player but you know Mike Babcock always talks about living the right way I hope he does I don't think he does well you never know
Starting point is 00:31:31 you never know but this would be an amazing opportunity what's been interesting too is that when he did when Radulov did leave he signed a contract I think
Starting point is 00:31:41 what is it 100 million rubles or something like that some ridiculous number but it works out to about at the time worked out to about
Starting point is 00:31:48 9.25 million dollars a season? I think $9.2 million and I think the answer you're looking for is around $2 billion. Oh, billion rubles. Okay, there you go. So it's ridiculous. Is it ridiculous? But the ruble has fallen so far in the last three years that his
Starting point is 00:32:04 $9.5 million American money contract has turned into a $4.5 million American money contract and it just expired. That's how bad the economy is right now in Russia. And I don't think it's just the economy because I'm sure there's teams out there
Starting point is 00:32:21 in the KHL willing to pay him more even with the ridiculous inflation rate because it doesn't matter about making money in the KHL no I think he would still make more in the KHL than the NHL I don't know that to be true but I think so the problem is there's
Starting point is 00:32:38 well not really a problem there's a competitive nature though there's a competitive nature to it Leo Komarov was in the KHL he was doing just fine didn't have to come to the NHL he ended up making a pretty good payday but that wasn't known
Starting point is 00:32:55 coming out of the gate the reason he came to the NHL was he won the Gagarin Cup he had nothing left to prove he was a world champion he was a Gagarin Cup champion I'm going to come to the NHL because that's the next thing to do Artemi Panarin came for the payday and the awesome opportunity to play with the Blackhawks
Starting point is 00:33:11 but a lot of these guys they leave the KHL because they have nothing left to prove Radulov's already won the Gagarin Cup a couple times He just lost it in the seventh game, which means Zaitsev, by the way, lost it too. That means he'll come in hungry for the Leafs, am I right? That's right. Stanley Cup next season.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Absolutely. He's got something left to prove. You know, if he really is as good as he thinks he is, or his money thinks he is, or his agents think he is, or whatever, he's got to come to the NHL and prove it. It's the best league. is he a guy that can get you 50 or 60 points oh totally totally i think so okay that's that's big for a lot of teams the thing is a lot of teams are are freaked out about the personality issue so that's going to cost him money and he said money from what i'm hearing money is not an issue
Starting point is 00:34:01 right now it's it's really just about comfort with family i wouldn't think so um so now the issue is you sign a one-year deal where and it's going to be for low and for well that's the thing though How low? He's not signing somewhere for one million bucks. You can't get him on a Brad Boy $700,000 deal? Hell no. No way. So what if he's making four and a half in the KHL American money standards?
Starting point is 00:34:28 How about that? Really? Yeah, that's what his contract was at nine. Let's just say. So he's making four and a half million, which is anywhere from bottom of your top six to top of your bottom six. It's the Van Roby dog. Actually, not quite as much. What does a Radulov make?
Starting point is 00:34:47 Does he make three? Does he make four and a half? Does he make five? No, he definitely doesn't make five. So we're agreeing that Radulov is good enough to start a bidding war amongst teams? I'm sure that's what he's hoping. No, his skill...
Starting point is 00:35:04 I don't think anyone's doubting his skill. I don't think anyone's doubting... He's played two seasons in the NHL. Okay, his NHL totals, and it's a little skewed because most of his NHL numbers are from when he was much younger. In 154 career NHL games, fewer than Andrew Peters, by the way. In 154 career NHL games, 47 goals, 55 assists, 102 points.
Starting point is 00:35:27 That's not bad. It was also 10 years ago. Yeah, his playoffs numbers, though, 18 games played, 6 goals, 8 assists, 14 points. And that includes his run in 2011-12, in which he was suspended, by the way. eight games one goal five assists though six points wow and in in his uh in the regular season there nine games three goals forces seven points he's a good player so he's arguably is he arguably a better player now than when those numbers were were taken i would say he's at least as good he's at least as good in the khl this past season he got 65 points in 53 games it's very hard to get
Starting point is 00:36:08 over 60 points in the KHL it's very hard he's good enough you just need to find a number that makes sense and you got to be sure that his issues are behind him and if they're not you got to be sure you can stomach them there are players in this league where teams go yep they're gonna give me some trouble they're gonna give me some trouble but if I manage it they'll put up this many points that that is how much of a premium uh talent is at in this league he's got it man he's got it he's been and before anybody says the Leafs
Starting point is 00:36:40 no I don't think that makes sense for either party no and the Leafs may have cap issues anyway because they've taken on a lot of salary recently
Starting point is 00:36:48 however the Joffrey-Lupo thing may change things who knows that said you know he wants to go to a winning team so of the winning teams like
Starting point is 00:36:58 who doesn't who doesn't yes okay so here's a thought if you go to Detroit super cheap for the first year, right? You sign a one-year contract.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Datsouk is leaving. Does that make Datsouk stay? I was just going to say that, Jesse. Maybe he doesn't. They played on Red Army together during the lockout. Datsouk is going home because of his daughter. So I don't think that makes him stay. He wants to be closer to his daughter.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I just don't think that his friend coming to the NHL would keep him in Detroit. But if I'm Ken Holland, and I want to replace those points, and I've got a pretty good culture, From what I understand, Detroit's culture is still a pretty good dressing room culture. Ken Holland seemed pretty pissed. Well, he doesn't like to lose, but it doesn't mean that the culture is broken, right?
Starting point is 00:37:44 You've still got Zetterberg there. And maybe, yeah, maybe Dadsuk Stang would be great. But think about what that does. I mean, that props Detroit right back up again. I'm looking at Radulov right now. He finished second in the KHL in scoring this year. Last year. Who won it, by the way?
Starting point is 00:38:03 Sergey Moisakin And there's another guy Who I don't understand Why he hasn't made the jump To the NHL He was like a Eighth round pick Of the Blue Jackets
Starting point is 00:38:11 And every year He's top five In KHL scoring Last year Radulov Won The scoring title In the KHL Sergey Moisakin
Starting point is 00:38:22 Won it the year before that God God Whoever gets him Is going to get a good player But you just got to be sure You just got to be sure Now I wonder
Starting point is 00:38:32 if things would have worked out better in Nashville last time around if he was there the whole season. It wasn't just a I just got here sort of thing. So he wasn't really invested in the team the way that other players would have been, right? If he puts down roots a little bit,
Starting point is 00:38:47 I'm in this for the long haul, I wonder if you get a different guy. I wonder if you get a different player. Which is kind of why I wonder for as much as we make fun of him, I wonder if he'd be best under Patrick Waugh. Patrick Waugh knows how to handle this guy clearly he does?
Starting point is 00:39:05 from his days in the QMJHL oh well yeah I mean and Patrick Waugh it's so funny sometimes it takes it takes fiery people to handle fiery people
Starting point is 00:39:16 like you need you need a guy who is just as cantankerous as a coach to I guess mute the guy who's a little bit rebellious as a player you know what I mean? because
Starting point is 00:39:27 the guy the guy who's the coach is saying you're not pulling anything on me, right? I've been there. I'm just as crazy. Yeah. You know? I'm just as crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Exactly. So I think it'll be very interesting to watch and see where that goes. That will be interesting. Now, if I can just throw a little water on the fire that I've created, okay? So this year in the KHL, regular season. Points leader, Sergey Moizakin. 67 points. 67, boo.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Second place Alex Radulov 65 points Third place Brandon Bochenski Whoa I remember that name Why do I know that name?
Starting point is 00:40:08 I think he played For the Avalanche He was like The next big thing For a while Until he was not Fourth place Vadim Shipachov
Starting point is 00:40:16 I don't know If he ever Played in the NHL Fifth place Oilers cast off Linus Omar Linus Omar's Playing the KHL now?
Starting point is 00:40:25 You bet You want to know Damn I thought He was still pretty young Want to know who the top scoring defenseman was in the AHL? Or KHL, sorry. Yes, I do. By the way, the top four scoring defenseman in the KHL, all North American.
Starting point is 00:40:38 With 40 points, 9 goals, 31 assists in 55 games. Former third overall pick, Cam Barker. Aww. Wow. Cam Barker. Kevin Dallman was tied with him. He's always up there. Do NHL teams look at the top 10 and go, we should rate their top 10?
Starting point is 00:40:58 I kind of think they should. Like, just for cheap. Like, why wouldn't anyone, unless Moise Akin doesn't want to leave the KHL, which it sounds like it's impossible. I would, it's got to be. It's got to be that he doesn't want to go. He was part of the best line in hockey during the lockout, in my opinion. Well, okay, there was two.
Starting point is 00:41:17 It was Komarov with Niklas Backstrom and Alex Ovechkin. Which is crazy. Crazy. And then there was Kuhlman with Malkin and Moise Akin. It was a great line, man. it was a great line what what would
Starting point is 00:41:31 what would an NHL player sorry what would a KHL player have to gain from staying in Russia is it a comfort is it a home thing is it a like yeah you know what
Starting point is 00:41:42 I enjoy it here like I got a good life you know I think not that Russia's bad I'm not trying to say that no but I think I remember reading
Starting point is 00:41:51 an interview with Sergei Kostitsyn and he was talking about he didn't like the lifestyle in Nashville Didn't like the lifestyle, didn't kind of like the American, Midwest, whatever. The team he ended up playing for is Avangard Omsk. Omsk is in Siberia!
Starting point is 00:42:08 But home is where the heart is. You know? He likes it there. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? Travis Hamanick is on a great team with the New York Islanders. It's a team that is budding, you could argue. They're in the second round of the playoffs right now.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Before the season began, he requested a trade to Western Canada. Is there a worse place to play hockey right now? But he wants to go there That's where he wants to go You know why? It's home That's where he wants to be It is what it is, man It happens here, it happens in the KHL
Starting point is 00:42:38 It happens all over the place I don't know Top player in the KHL And he can't get a big fat contract from the NHL Like at least a couple years You're playing sports for a living You're good at it You're having a good time
Starting point is 00:42:54 You're making a lot of money um i've i've asked this question on the podcast before how much is enough how much is enough like if someone offered me four million dollars a year to do something and then someone was like okay steve i'll give you a seven million to do something you don't like as much and you and you won't be as happy what what you know how much money four million dollars is, I'll take the $4 million gig. I come from
Starting point is 00:43:29 peasant roots, Adam Wild. I come from peasant roots. Is that the reason Steve's not in the NHL? That is, by the way, the sole reason. It has nothing to do with fitness, skating ability, the reason. Yeah, no. But, I'm going to argue
Starting point is 00:43:45 this one. I'm just going to be a Play Devils advocate. Okay, so that $7 million offer happens to come from a place where the average temperature is 30 degrees higher every single day of the year
Starting point is 00:43:59 than the place that you grew up. What if I like the cold? Who likes the cold? Is there anybody that likes the cold? Like legitimately you're like, yes, the cold. Please give me the cold. Adam, some goofy people. They like the cold, man. Some people can deal
Starting point is 00:44:16 with it better. Why doesn't everyone from the UK just move to Florida? Like why not It rains there all the time And in Florida It's nice and sunny Like why not
Starting point is 00:44:29 They like it there A lot of people like it there And if they don't like it there They move Right And I guess What did Leo Komarov say He loved Finland
Starting point is 00:44:37 Or he loved Winnipeg Because it reminded him of Finland Yeah and no offense No one loves Winnipeg But it reminds him of Finland It reminds him of home I don't think If anybody offered a KHL player
Starting point is 00:44:50 Three million dollars More than what they're making They would turn it down It's three million dollars man It's three million dollars That's a lot of money I don't think anybody's Going to guys and being like
Starting point is 00:44:57 Hey raise your salary Three million dollars And they're saying No I'm not coming to the NHL I don't think anybody's doing that Three million is a lot of money It's a lot of money But like what about one
Starting point is 00:45:06 What about one million And I'm already a millionaire I don't think anybody's Offering one million Because it wouldn't No no like I'm saying I make four in the KHL And I can come to North America
Starting point is 00:45:16 And make five I don't think anybody's Offering that I don't think anybody's saying Hey I'll pay you one million If they're going to try And lure you here they're going to offer $3 million more
Starting point is 00:45:22 and somebody's going to say yes. If you're happy. Yeah. But I wonder what's happened with Moise Akin. Like, that is an interesting question. Why has he not, I'm sure he's had offers. How could he not have had offers, right? That has to be the case.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I'm sure the Russian reporters that listen to this show, and there are several, could probably tell us. And I would love to know that answer. Yeah. Kalinch, I need you on this one. My Latvian friend. Also, I think maybe we should mention, Can we mention that Conor McGregor is back for UFC 200?
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yeah, but not in that fight. So what's the deal? Can you explain that one to me? How's it a somewhere? Dana White is a bag of rocks, is the deal. Like, how are you going to have them both fight at UFC 200 and not each other? Who's Conor McGregor going to fight? Who's he going to fight?
Starting point is 00:46:12 You already got Aldo and what's his face? Frankie Edgar. What are you doing? What are you doing? Stop it. It makes no sense You can make UFC 200 The best card
Starting point is 00:46:24 In the history of the sport What are you doing? What are you doing? Imagine if at UFC 200 We got McGregor Diaz And Jones Cormier It's probably gonna happen
Starting point is 00:46:37 Isn't there also Isn't Tate fighting someone? Um No I'll bring it up Look at it There's no way that Conor McGregor and Nate Diaz
Starting point is 00:46:49 Fight in this in this? They'll do it. They're going to end up doing it. They're just teasing us. They gotta be. What are the chances this entire thing was a ploy? Great. Amazing. Incredible.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Here's what it did. It helped the UFC's image, it helped Conor McGregor's image, and it generated interest in the sport. I don't see where there could have been a bad thing here. Tate's fighting Nunez. Oh, there you go. Whether he's in on it or not,
Starting point is 00:47:17 Diaz means what he says And when he says I only want to fight McGregor I believe him And that's what he deserves I don't think he needs the money I don't think he needs to get punched in the face He wants Conor McGregor
Starting point is 00:47:32 That's who he wants He wants the payday Give it to him Give it to the fans Driving me nuts With this garbage We gotta go on Sportsnet 590 The fan
Starting point is 00:47:40 But in the In the In the download portion of this podcast Which you can get at Sportsnet.ca Or in iTunes We have some Reddit things to address some big scary reddit things to address plus a new sandwich debate remember hot dog is a
Starting point is 00:47:54 sandwich we've got a new one for you yeah you're missing out if you're not downloading oh adam jesse just pointed me to a tweet right before we go what from nate diaz happy to announce that i'm going on vacation hashtag gone hashtag 100 peace symbol whoa it's nate diaz man i'm not surprised Nate Diaz Hey Remember last year When the Leafs made A nondescript trade
Starting point is 00:48:19 With the Florida Panthers I just saw that Adam Do you want to read it out? This is great Ouch No disrespect But what a trade This turned out to be
Starting point is 00:48:30 And it's Greg McEgg On waivers For the Florida Panthers That's a bummer Yeah what did Well I think they gotta Put him on waivers In order to send him down
Starting point is 00:48:39 Right And I assume Florida's farm team Is still in the Calder Cup playoffs. I actually forget who their farm team is because it switched a bunch of times recently. I want to say Rochester,
Starting point is 00:48:51 or at least that's who it was last time I checked. But let's think about this just for a second here. You probably know that. Who did we get for Greg McKay? Well, I'm a young whippersnapper. Well, first the Leafs also had to give up a conditional seventh. Devastating. But the guy they got in return was Zach Hyman.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Who is undoubtedly, barring injury, going to make the Leafs out of camp next year. Sheldon Keefe cannot shut up about this guy. Babcock loves him. The Leafs organization loves Zach Hyman. They are so in love with this guy. But you know what? Zach Hyman didn't just play in the NHL playoffs. Oh, no?
Starting point is 00:49:34 So I'll give that to Florida. Oh, I won Mr. McKegg. Did McKegg? Okay. Well. Well. Well. Well, although Zach Hyman's Toronto Marlies are up 2-0 on the Bridgeport Sound Tigers.
Starting point is 00:49:46 That, friends, is great asset management. Sorry, 2-0? 2-0. They won both games on the road, and now game three is on Thursday in Tirana. In Tirana. Yeah, in Tirana. It's the Portland Pirates, by the way. Portland Pirates.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Oh, you know what? I knew that. Oh, wait. We saw them. Yes, we did. And we saw Greg McKegg. Yes. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Oh, well. Oh, well. Yeah. I wanted to we gotta mention like a couple house cleaning things first off
Starting point is 00:50:15 skate2great.org as we always do oh goodness we must mention them they're fantastic skate2great.org over 100 donation centers across the country
Starting point is 00:50:24 please drop off all your used and abused hockey equipment they'll take it they'll take it and they will fix it mostly skates
Starting point is 00:50:31 the other thing I want to mention is the CWHL's Pave the Way what? now I am the only one on this show responsible enough
Starting point is 00:50:40 to have set up my donation page for the Clarkson Cupcakes. I, to be fair, just got the email last night because he forgot the J in my name. It was sent to Essie Blake, not Jesse Blake. That's true. Steve and I have had this for weeks. So, don't group me with Steve.
Starting point is 00:50:54 But we have a team called the Clarkson Cupcakes named by one Sasky Stewart. We will be playing against CWHL players in ball hockey tournaments. Yes, it says in the email that Sasky sent us, that Natalie Spooner has
Starting point is 00:51:10 a team and she'll be playing. Well, we are going to get Natalie smoked. So we're trying to get a CWHL All-Star on our team as well. There's a chance that that happens. Can we get an NHL All-Star? I'm going to go with Dibs on MPP. MPP the MVP.
Starting point is 00:51:28 We'll see what happens. Dibs on Andrew Peters. Well, we do need a sheriff. We do need a sheriff. So the idea here is that we're going to raise money for the cwhl which is yes professional hockey but also a non-profit organization and the reason that we're doing this is because we are committed on the show to growing the women's side of the game we always have been always will be um and quite frankly i mean it's got
Starting point is 00:51:53 there are challenges to starting a league a professional league in this era it's not easy to do and doing it the right way cwhl for the most part is stuck to their guns uh even in the midst of the NWHL just being like what up we're here now yeah they've made
Starting point is 00:52:10 they've made some big leaps and bounds and I hope for continued success continued growth we were at their their all-star game
Starting point is 00:52:19 this year and it's it's amazing hockey so if you're just a hockey fan it's great remember when we were both like
Starting point is 00:52:24 dude who was that flying out there who was that young that's probably like a youngster it was Haley Wickenheiser yeah holy smokes
Starting point is 00:52:32 who's still playing and still kicking ass unbelievable still still so so good so here's the deal one of the one of the stats that stuck out to me in sasuke's email um and and one of the things that i really noticed at the game was first off if i'm ever the father of little girls i will hold i i will encourage them to play sports but one of the stats that killed me that i read was that women and young young women between the ages of 13 and 17, 41% of them stop playing because there's nowhere to take it because there is
Starting point is 00:53:07 no professional game. There's nowhere, there's nobody for them to look up to. And if you look outside of really, I mean, women's professionals, I mean, soccer, which, you know, really is just the FIFA tournament, you know, every four years and that sort of thing. You have some, some stars come out of that. Is that, there's a WNBA, you know, tennis, golf. but other than that
Starting point is 00:53:28 there is we are really lacking when it comes to basketball when it comes to hockey I know the NW everything basically yeah so I think it's time
Starting point is 00:53:37 that we got behind something that changes that this does that I have a donation page set up Steve will Jesse will as well I'm not sure when but eventually they will
Starting point is 00:53:45 and we're trying to raise as a team $5,000 I set my personal goal at $500 to see how that went I posted my notation page last night I think I'm at $490
Starting point is 00:53:54 so that was amazing So you're not even there yet No What are you bragging about Adam That was 12 hours ago Why are you putting everybody down That was amazing Why are you putting everybody down
Starting point is 00:54:04 So I'm hoping That maybe you can help us out With the donations And you know Obviously just go to My Instagram account It's actually right In my Instagram bio
Starting point is 00:54:13 Just At Adam Wilde On Instagram I think maybe Before I leave today My friend Adam Might help me set up My page
Starting point is 00:54:20 It's really not that hard Yeah but But like maybe It could be even less Hard Or maybe the instructions are in Sasky's email if you don't bother to read it. Don't make me read it. Here's the great thing.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Don't make me read it. Here's what I want you to do, too. Make sure that you tweet this part of the show to Sasky just so she knows how thoroughly Steve reads her emails. Oh, very. Because... What? Here, wait, wait, wait. Is it even open? Did you open it? Did you even open it?
Starting point is 00:54:45 No, I opened it. I opened it, and I knew I was in trouble. Because what did she... Because there's a paragraph or two. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. the one I read there was no paragraph didn't even open the right email
Starting point is 00:54:59 where did okay what does it say the email has the subject is hi period
Starting point is 00:55:08 the contents of the email not so not so gentle nudge oh yeah no no but did you read the one before that the one where she
Starting point is 00:55:19 asked us to be on the team and be a part of it hello cupcake crew yeah that's us Or are you opening that for the first time? I mean... He opened that for the first time.
Starting point is 00:55:28 He opened that for the first time. So, Sasky, just so you know, your email is red. Uncle Adam's taking care of it. I mean... That's why they call me Daddam. I'm going to be there. You will be there. May 15th, Ontario Place.
Starting point is 00:55:40 With cupcakes on. Yep. May 15th, Ontario Place. That's important, too. That's a Sunday. And that weekend's going to be a little bit bananas because the Gardner's closed. So... Isn't that where we're playing?
Starting point is 00:55:52 On the Gardner? Isn't that why they closed it? No, no. Ontario Place is not the Gardner. We've got a whole lane for ourselves. No, it's construction. It's fun. I paused for a brief moment.
Starting point is 00:56:00 I was like, that's sick. That'd be cool. I thought you were... No, no. They saved that for Terry Wright. No, so this one, this will be at Ontario Place. It's going to be lots of fun. If you can be there, that would be great.
Starting point is 00:56:12 And again, look for our donation URLs to come out. Ten bucks helps. If you can spare ten bucks. We got Jeff on our team? Jeff Vallette. Jeff Ayette, sorry. Vallette. Vayette is coming out.
Starting point is 00:56:23 and I believe we're still working on some new teammates as well. That's sick. I can run. That's about it. But once I get the ball, I'm kind of useless. Jeff actually messaged me on Twitter last night, and he's like, I'm just going to try to be the guy that doesn't hold you guys back.
Starting point is 00:56:34 I'm like, what? Hey, man, you've played road hockey in the last decade, man. Excuse me. That's going to be me. I'm going to be terrible. I'm sorry. Jeff's like Ron Burgundy, like, oh, my God, I don't even play any instruments.
Starting point is 00:56:49 And then he pulls a jazz flute out of his sleeve. Oh, I'm not even prepared. Not even that he's like The sickest one out there Dude he was sick When he was Big Jeff When he was Big Jeff And then he
Starting point is 00:57:02 Cut himself in half And was Half Jeff And then he had All the hands of Big Jeff But with the mobility Of Half Jeff And he was just Destroying worlds
Starting point is 00:57:11 So he became Dangerous Jeff He became Dane Jeff Dane Jeff No Alright
Starting point is 00:57:18 Another thing I want to bring up Is There is a There is a hockey reddit thread that it says, Gary Bettman on Barclays. My understanding is there are 15,000 good seats
Starting point is 00:57:29 in Barclays. Whatever the number that are obstructed, that's irrelevant. And by the way, for anybody wondering, the two Tavares goals that ended the series
Starting point is 00:57:39 were on the non-obstructed side of the ice. Just thought I'd throw that out there. If they were on the obstructed side of the ice, you can bet that this would be
Starting point is 00:57:47 a bigger issue. So here's the, that's what Gary Bettman said. 15,000 people can see it And a few people can't That's irrelevant They're irrelevant And by the way
Starting point is 00:57:56 Buying tickets Means that you are irrelevant It matters not How your experience is Because that's what he is saying You know what's irrelevant to me Okay Because I think the line
Starting point is 00:58:05 Is still blurred with me Between media and fan I think I still side more With the fan side of it all You know what's irrelevant Anything Gary Bettman says Like I would love to just Like
Starting point is 00:58:17 Go out and get bombed With that dude And have the first genuine conversation of his entire human life like has he said anything you thought was genuine ever once well no one says that other than an automaton who what non-robotic human thinks that way i don't i don't know what non he's thinking money he's thinking money way terminator cyborg no no no i don't know i'm giving him the credit that no human being thinks that way no human being actually thinks that stupidly no human being says that no human being says no one cares about the about the
Starting point is 00:58:54 friggin start time of the chicago game he doesn't believe any of the things he says it's like i said adam before he's the dartboard here throw it over here throw it over here i would love to just have that guy just speak his mind wouldn't it be so sick to just be like gary here look and just throw your phone in a pot of boiling water and be like, look, check me for wires. Nothing on me. I'm not going to repeat any of this. Let's just talk. Let's just have a genuine conversation. Wouldn't it be amazing?
Starting point is 00:59:26 Like 10 minutes, just see what you get out of him. I would love to know. And you'll never share it with anyone. You just know it. Love to know. I don't care what he has to say because I don't believe any of it. The only reason it's valid at all is because I get to go, wow, he said that. Not wow, he means that.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Just wow, he said that. Is Gary Benton married? I don't know. I don't know. I would have to know something about him and his actual... I don't know anything about him. I couldn't even... Isn't that good, though?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Yeah. I won't fault him for that. I won't fault him for that. Like, some people want their privacy. Steve said it many times. He does a great job for the owners. Yeah. He does a great job.
Starting point is 01:00:05 And it's amazing to see what money can buy. Money can buy you never actually saying anything ever. Yep. Now... Money can just make you the town crier. He's the town crier for the NHL. The best part. So it's amazing.
Starting point is 01:00:19 All those years in school and all the time invested in his career, and he's the town crier. Yeah. God. But he makes $8 million a year. What a shame. Good for him. Yeah, good for him.
Starting point is 01:00:30 The best part about this. What can money buy? There's your answer. Steven, for the third time, the best part about this. Sorry, I'm just so annoyed. I know you're mad, but I'm going to make you happy. If you bought obstructed seats, well, I mean, fuck you. You know, just kind of shove it up your ass
Starting point is 01:00:46 And fuck you, here's a scarf Well, it's funny that you say that Because the first comment on that thread was Shut up, here's a scarf, go Nets And that coming in from user Gary B And then the next reference Or the next one was Nice reference, you POS
Starting point is 01:01:02 And then the next comment He knows a little more He knows more about the Barclays Center Than anyone else As in Mark Madden Oh, there you go That took me a second And then it says, where is this guy's HockeyDB page?
Starting point is 01:01:15 On his blog. What Reddit is this on? What subreddit? Remember when Larry Roberts bunted in 1961? And then in bold and caps, the end of the obstructed era in Brooklyn. And then the next comment, can I borrow someone's printer? One sec, I'll upload my mortgage papers. The next comment, I dropped my keys on Lakeshore.
Starting point is 01:01:40 The next comment. Okay guys we have a serious problem here I've only seen one review for this deck cleaning service The next comment While your deck is getting cleaned Can I borrow your metro pass for like a few hours tops The next comment May God help them all
Starting point is 01:01:55 The next comment Is that God's job It just keeps going and going and going This is a hockey reddit thread That is all SDP listeners It just Literally the next one
Starting point is 01:02:10 It is over and it's like it's just it keeps going and going I was blown away see now do you not feel happier oh I feel so much happier
Starting point is 01:02:18 you're not irrelevant you're not irrelevant you know it's great to hear something from people who are not just empty husks like it's so great non-town criers
Starting point is 01:02:29 non-town criers they're reddit reddit criers there you go they're having fun they're having fun I like it
Starting point is 01:02:38 isn't that what this is all about see I love you know what They probably sent all those comments from the obstructed seating in Barclay Center because there's nothing else to do because they can't fucking see. Well, and they actually made reference to that. They're like, I don't understand the problem. And this was something we talked about on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Why don't they just watch the game on their phone when it enters the part of the ice you can't see? Oh my God, is that a reference too? That's a reference. That's a good one. And then Jesse came in with this one. And I don't know if this person knows that it's an STP reference, but Jesse told us this.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Not me. Local games, no, at the time on the podcast, local games are blocked out on Game Center. so you can't oh yeah like it's just it was like wow
Starting point is 01:03:15 this thread is amazing but once again if I can finish fuck you fuck you sorry let me ask you a question you want to watch the game
Starting point is 01:03:25 yeah oh fuck you I know you're in the arena and you paid money yeah but you know gotta go fuck yourself a little bit what's the line
Starting point is 01:03:35 what's the line fuck you oh shut up here's the scoff fuck you I think it's what it is I believe it's Go Nets Oh Go Nets
Starting point is 01:03:44 Whatever They're NBA You forgot your own line No no no Adam I knew Oh okay But I was I'm fucking method acting man
Starting point is 01:03:51 Oh I'm sorry I'm getting into character I'm sorry You know what was funny The first time we talked about this Is that I was the one Who was upset by it And you were the one
Starting point is 01:03:58 Who was making fun of it And now It's the roles are reversed You're mad And I'm like But there's this great thing That came out of it No no no
Starting point is 01:04:06 That's hilarious You know what I've been grumpy lately but like also just I would love love to hear him like
Starting point is 01:04:14 I would love to have a genuine opinion from him on anything anything ah you know I wasn't a huge fan of Kanye's new album
Starting point is 01:04:23 like what what that's so weird so first of all Jesse wants to fight you is Gary Bettman Becky with the nice hair
Starting point is 01:04:30 that's what I would like to know right am I right did we get that I was reading all about that yesterday it was all a rave of the internet but
Starting point is 01:04:38 you know two and a half men is pretty overrated like I would just I would have to agree with Gary Bettman on that it is overrated sir this weather's bullshit what? do you think he swears? oh yeah
Starting point is 01:04:50 all the time sure he's a New Yorker I can't wait I can't wait till Gary Bettman retires at that point he's gonna have to come on our show no I don't want
Starting point is 01:05:00 I think he'd go into hiding no you write a book with uh with uh the cover of the book is you wearing a polar fleece and you tell stories that reveal absolutely nothing. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I don't think you hear a peep out of him. You might get a couple interesting, like, oh, during the lockout, this player said a nasty thing to me during negotiations. You might get a couple, yeah, you go, here you go. But for the most part,
Starting point is 01:05:25 hey, you get nothing from this book. Thanks for the money. Fuck you. Go Nets. Kind of fuck you. Go Nets. By the way, you picking Nets? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:34 I don't know. I'm just so, it's just weird I've started to think more and more about like what is news like what
Starting point is 01:05:45 what are quotes and what are what is news I don't think they're the same they're not I don't think one is necessarily
Starting point is 01:05:51 the other quotes from him are not news information is news he never gives me information he just kind of unless there's a
Starting point is 01:06:00 rule change it might as well be binary ones and zeros like I don't know I just I'm just so fed up
Starting point is 01:06:06 I'm so fed up How long has he been in charge A quarter century Holy fuck 1993 I'm just Don't you want to be free of this Don't you
Starting point is 01:06:14 I would like to have a commissioner Like Adam Silver Fuck yes I was just about to say that Because Adam Silver Is a guy that you can stand behind At least right now He's a guy that stands up for social causes
Starting point is 01:06:27 It's the one league that has fans going Damn I think I like the commissioner Yeah Okay what about the complete opposite Dana White He's the opposite Gary Bettman now there's too many opinions there's fuck you but gary dana white is smart because i think dana white has the same approach as gary batman as in his opinions mean nothing but dana white's doing
Starting point is 01:06:47 it to um to promote the sport dana white does that because dana white's a ufc personality and he's the guy truly before i knew any of the fighters in ufc i knew who dana white was and that is dana white's job he is a promoter as much as he is the guy that runs the sport and that's where it differs I think after Dana White retires then the UFC commissioner will be a little bit more like a Gary Bettman um and I think Dana White says the things and I don't mean to say that what he says doesn't matter he smokescreens things he says things that he knows will start fires because that's what you're supposed to do you're a promoter a more accurate um uh comparison I think would be Mark Cuban because Dana White is actually the owner did you actually the owner
Starting point is 01:07:33 Whereas Batman He doesn't own shit He's the dartboard He's the dartboard For 30 or some odd men Did you see Kevin Durant And Russell Westbrook In their press conference
Starting point is 01:07:42 Did I Did I not tell you About that article That Look it up God I can't remember Who wrote it But it was basically
Starting point is 01:07:49 One day The Oklahoma City Thunder Were just like Fuck the media Fuck them all We don't care And they all just like Had a revolt
Starting point is 01:07:57 And they like Barely talked to them You gotta look it up And it's basically A reporter going so working through it trying to figure out when it happened when it all went wrong and he can't really find it really yeah but it's it's kevin durant has had a few quotes like that over the last two years or he's just like you know so and so's an idiot i mean i know he was talking about
Starting point is 01:08:17 a coach there he's talking about cuban yeah so sorry sorry sorry yeah he's talking about cuban there but did you see the other one um we're like mid-sentence he just goes you know reporters like you know, you guys are fucking assholes to Kobe and you have been your whole career. Yeah, I remember that quote. Remember that? Yeah. And he's like, now you're honoring him. Yeah, he just doesn't give a shit. Here's the best. I kind of like it.
Starting point is 01:08:40 And for anybody that hasn't heard it, I want you to hear it. So here it is. Were you aware of Mark Cuban's comments before the game when he said Kevin was the only superstar on this team and... By the way, it's Russell Westbrook, Kevin Durant sitting at the table after the game.
Starting point is 01:08:56 And how do you react to that? he's an idiot this is Kevin Durant don't listen to he's an idiot alright that's what we got to say about that you know
Starting point is 01:09:04 he's an idiot next question I want to know who the reporter is going to it at all my favorite thing here is they torched
Starting point is 01:09:17 Charlie Villanueva former Raptor here checking this out Charlie Villanueva came out and sort of lingered behind you for a second did you know he was
Starting point is 01:09:23 back there and did he say anything or what was going through your mind he said a lot he's an idiot You know, but now you get to go home and do whatever you need to do. Get ready for next year to sit down and watch 82 more games like you did this year.
Starting point is 01:09:36 I'm not even going to be in the league. Shoot! With his Caillou-looking face. Hey, hey, hey! That is a Raptors draft pick. He drives a Dodge Stratus. I can do 20 push-ups. I'm a man.
Starting point is 01:09:51 I'm 40. I can do 20. No, what is it? I can do 100 push-ups in 20 minutes. gentlemen I have a question do we want to reignite the sandwich debate because I have a question
Starting point is 01:10:05 let's do it that will reignite the sandwich debate and will I think maybe cause a heated divide once again between
Starting point is 01:10:12 our family the listeners ourselves so many issues more heated than Strowman was last night more heated than Strowman was last night
Starting point is 01:10:21 after Brett Cecil blew his fourth game It has to do with The entire sandwich The entire sandwich argument If Jesse if you say That this is a sandwich
Starting point is 01:10:37 Okay Then it blows Hot dog as a sandwich Out of the water So you gotta be very careful here I completely disagree Because you're And this comes from
Starting point is 01:10:47 Martin Brown A listener from Halifax Because this Is This is a game changer So in a restaurant Especially a pub You can go to a pub
Starting point is 01:10:59 You can go to the pub And you can get meat on a sandwich Meat on bread Let's say it's onion, let's say it's some beef A beef dip Let's say though There's no top piece of bread It is an open faced sandwich
Starting point is 01:11:17 Covered in gravy Is it still in fact A sandwich well what do you call it if it isn't it's like eating a cracker just a bunch of shit well it's not
Starting point is 01:11:28 have you ever had an open face sandwich no they're delicious you're eating a cracker but is it no I mean there's a big thick
Starting point is 01:11:34 piece of bread underneath it and then there's stuff on top of it and it's a heaping mound is an open face sandwich still a sandwich no
Starting point is 01:11:41 okay now fold it then you're making you're turning it into a sandwich so it just magically becomes That's a pizza sandwich. If you fold it, I guess it is.
Starting point is 01:11:55 That's a panzerati. You made it into a sandwich. That's a panzerati. No, Adam, it's a fucking sandwich. Jesse just told me. Jesse just told me it's a sandwich. You fold anything. If you put...
Starting point is 01:12:04 You fold anything. Hey, look at this lid. Look what I'm doing with this lid. Oh, shit, now it's a sandwich. That's Tupperware, sir. I just ruined Adam's Tupperware. It's okay. It's Tupperware.
Starting point is 01:12:12 It'll survive. Anyone got a piece of paper? Look at that. Look at that. It's a sandwich now. No. Look at that. This thing you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:12:18 If I put a piece of cheese in this, it's folded into a sandwich. The fact that Jesse has never had a good open-faced sandwich, you've been robbed, sir. You are taking a piece of bread and putting stuff on it and eating it like a piece of bread. But you do it with a knife and fork normally. Which is essentially eating something like a cracker, just putting stuff on a cracker. So it's not a sandwich. You're eating one side of bread. What if it's cracker, cheese, cracker?
Starting point is 01:12:40 Is that now a cheese cracker sandwich? Yes. Like Lunchables. What are you talking about? It's like Lunchables. What are you talking about? No, because you can't have something open and just eat it like this and say it's a sandwich.
Starting point is 01:12:53 It's an Oreo sandwich. Yeah, it's a little cookie sandwich. You're fucked. Now, let's talk about tacos for a minute because this matters. Because a wrap, a taco... Is a taco a hot dog? A taco is a taco, right?
Starting point is 01:13:07 Ceviche, though, is like an open-faced sandwich as a taco sandwich. Ceviche is the hard circular stuff that has stuff on top of it, but it's not a but it is not an actual taco
Starting point is 01:13:20 it's a ceviche so it's like bruschetta oh yeah I know what you're talking about bruschetta bruschetta's delicious bruschetta bruschetta
Starting point is 01:13:28 is no bruschetta that's what I have to say I love all I know is I'm just saying is it an open-faced sandwich Jesse yes or no is that a sandwich
Starting point is 01:13:36 no not a sandwich Steve is it a sandwich unless you want to qualify you want to make sandwich brackets and be like yeah this is an open-faced sandwich
Starting point is 01:13:45 This is a pizza sandwich. This is a cracker sandwich. This is a cookie sandwich. No. Either it's a sandwich or a sandwich. Is an ice cream sandwich a sandwich? What did you call it? Motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:13:55 There you go. You said it. Wow. Is a seahorse a horse? You said it. God damn it, Jesse. I am so sick of this shit. No, it is fucking not.
Starting point is 01:14:07 It's a goddamn seahorse. It has nothing to do with a horse. It's just a weird, fishy thing. That's a horse. It looks nothing. No, it kind of looks like a horse, but it's a fish that males give birth
Starting point is 01:14:16 that's the only thing that's interesting about them they're not a horse is chicken of the sea tuna chicken you've confused me what did you call it Adam
Starting point is 01:14:23 chicken of the sea well then fuck it's chicken so which means if you have a fish allergy don't worry fam that's a brand he said it he said it's chicken
Starting point is 01:14:33 that's a brand just fuck it it's fine you're good no no you can't just say oh this thing has only one side and it's a sandwich
Starting point is 01:14:41 no you gotta have two sides to it It's one piece of bread It's one piece of bread Nah but it's two because they're folded on top of each other And then you put the meat inside You're not putting any You can't put anything inside of one thing
Starting point is 01:14:56 That has only one side Does that make sense? Yeah that makes sense You can't put anything inside that only has one side So it can't be a sandwich Thank you Is a Big Mac two sandwiches? Okay here's a question
Starting point is 01:15:11 No it's one big one But it's got layers So The thing that makes a sandwich That might be a cake then Is having Is a cake a sandwich Is a cake an icing sandwich
Starting point is 01:15:21 An icing Well that's It is not It would have to be right It is not It is We're eating my birthday cake right now There are layers
Starting point is 01:15:28 A cupcake is an open faced cake sandwich And a cake Is just a cake sandwich That See that's just too That's ridiculous Let's not Let's not play that world
Starting point is 01:15:40 If you have a seahorse shaped cake Covered in tuna Is it chicken Hey are we doing what's up in Liberty Village today We're not We do have something from sort of in game promotions More of promotions that really make no sense Alright alright alright
Starting point is 01:15:59 The New Jersey Devils have decided to play Will it bounce What does will it bounce mean It's weird that they're planning their in game promotions This many months ahead Will it bounce? Yeah. So they're going to throw random stuff at the ice and see if it'll bounce?
Starting point is 01:16:18 What's your guess? That's what I'm assuming. I think, no, it's the off-season, so they're bored. They're going to huck stuff off of some kind of roof and see if it bounces. Like the company parking lot where they have all their cup parades. I wonder if the Leafs could lend their toaster. The New Jersey Devils have gone to the top of the Prudential Center and thrown things off of the roof
Starting point is 01:16:41 because why not? That's really weird. The New Jersey Devil throws some mustard, he throws some Windex, and he throws some flour. By the way, that is so bizarre that less than a thousand people liked that on Instagram. There's a reason people didn't really like it.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Because it's pointless. It's very pointless. They literally just took things they had around the office still because it was cleaned out because there's nothing happening there right now? Mm-hmm. And then,
Starting point is 01:17:10 no bounce. Yeah, weird. The Windex didn't bounce. No, they sat the mascot down and said, listen, we have you, we're paying you
Starting point is 01:17:16 until the end of the playoffs. Mm-hmm. You better come up with some GD content, okay? Some gosh darn content. Otherwise, you're fired.
Starting point is 01:17:25 That's what happened. No, I think what happened was they were all sitting there, God-bombed. No, and the owner... Had a rant about Gary Bettman, but he wasn't there. So...
Starting point is 01:17:35 The devil's owner landed his helicopter on multiple games on multiple soccer games. Hot Wheels heater kicks down the door and goes alright let's throw stuff into Lake Eugene and they're like that's hours away. He's like alright let's throw stuff off the roof. And that's what they did. You think so huh?
Starting point is 01:17:50 Just threw Windex. Like they could've you could've got like a watermelon would've been really interesting. Like a heavy medicine ball or something. Maybe something hockey related. Maybe a puck. I just don't get it.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Ilya Kovalchuk's contract. That would have been funny. That would have been funny. Wow. A bobblehead of the devil. This is the fun of NHL. Or an old Eric Lindros bobblehead, just to rub it in. The devil could throw off his devil trident,
Starting point is 01:18:22 accidentally stab someone at the bottom, they run off, it's the end of the video, a little comedy in there, a little dark comedy. Steve, this is why you're the master of the video content online. I'm just a really good producer. Should we do the press conference then? Yes. Unless you want to do presents from listeners first.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Oh, yeah. Let's do that. Let's do that. Hey, so we got presents from listeners. We did? Yeah. And I want to first read the card to you. Should I cover my eyes?
Starting point is 01:18:49 No, you don't need to cover your eyes. I don't think I deserve a present. We're actually going to open this all together. So just give me a sec here. I'm just going to open this. If you guys don't mind stretching for time, that'd be fabulous. All right. There's a bone to pick with you on Reddit.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Wait, is this a press conference thing? It's not really. No, I bet it's really concise. Yeah, we can do it after. I'm just warning you that someone is coming for your neck. All right, no touching your presence. No touching your presence. I'm not going to...
Starting point is 01:19:18 No touching your presence. No touching your presence. I'm not a child! I just act like one. No touch. No touch. Okay, are you ready? And this is amazing.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Whenever we get gifts, I'm blown away by people. Well, now I want to know who's coming for my neck. He can't leave me with it. We'll get to it. All right, so it says April 17th, 2016. Dear Adam, Jesse, and Steve. I like that we were mentioned first, Jesse. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:19:40 Yeah. Again, Jesse not mentioned first. Back in March, I tweeted a picture of a vase that looks suspiciously like the Stanley Cup. When Adam responded, I had moved on to my next project in clay. I wanted to say thank you for keeping me company while at the wheel, pottery and driving, because they, you know, pottery wheel, driving wheel,
Starting point is 01:20:01 by sending these to you. So she's obviously made these. Laura has made these. I look forward to hearing you discuss the Marlies while I move back to Maryland to cheer for the Capitals this month. I'll say that again. I look forward to you guys discussing the Marlies
Starting point is 01:20:20 while I move back to Maryland to cheer for the Capitals this month. Thanks, Laura. I think she might be kidding. Yeah. At IRG Mini on Twitter. IRG Mini. Alright, so Laura sent us these
Starting point is 01:20:34 So Jesse, you want to open yours first? Sure Jesse's going to go first and then I will go second Jesse gets to go first, look at this guy We'll let Jesse go Oh, no, I believe this isn't for me Oh, here, do you want to trade? Alright
Starting point is 01:20:46 So here's the So what she has done Is she's made us beautiful mugs Oh, do I get to open mine? Yeah Mine is shattered All kinds of pieces are you kidding me
Starting point is 01:21:05 look at that there's the camera show the camera show the camera I am here so so so Laura went to
Starting point is 01:21:15 all the trouble on her pottery wheel oh my god to make us these beautiful beautiful mugs but the S
Starting point is 01:21:21 the S is still there the S is still there I can see the S perfectly fine so what happened was the universe decided not another free thing no
Starting point is 01:21:30 So, no, exactly. Despite the package being marked Fragile or Fragile, it was kicked around and used as a basketball at some point because it arrived, Jesse and I opened it, and saw that only ours had survived. Laura, we so appreciate it, and we thought it would be hilarious to reveal that to Steve. There's a comic in the newspaper.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Is it Family Circus? I don't get it. Nope. Thanks for nothing, Laura! That's for your garbage gift. I like my A. Me too. I love my A.
Starting point is 01:22:02 It's very snaz. Oh, well. It's okay. I'll drink it. Steve, do you want me to give you the box? I'll drink out of this. You can take the box that it came in so you can keep all the parts together. I'll probably scald myself.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Glue it back together. He's so disappointed. He's so disappointed. Did you feel that it was broken? Oh, we opened it. Yeah, we knew. And you gave it to me? What else are we going to do?
Starting point is 01:22:29 I don't know. Be good friends. We just thought it would be a good reveal. Now, I also want to mention Steve is wearing something very important today from a good friend. Oh, from a good friend. My Titans jersey finally arrived. Yay! Apparently.
Starting point is 01:22:46 You didn't get ripped off. She just wrote their names on the bottom. Her name on the bottom. Oh, cool. Did she? LRM 2016. There you go. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Yeah, look at that. Can you see that on yours? If I piece them together, if I piece these two chunks together, yeah, I can see it. So just so everybody knows, when I do order gifts for Steve, they do come. It's just that they had a mix-up in the mailroom. Several of my girlfriend's Christmas presents and Steve's Christmas presents were given to me last week. L-R-M stands for look at this ruined mug. Sorry, buddy.
Starting point is 01:23:17 Let's do the press conference. The Presser S-D-P. The Steve Dangle Press Conference Steve Who wants to come for my neck and who's going to do it? Because now I've got ceramic to fight you off. Manky Mank
Starting point is 01:23:35 I believe his name is just wants to let you know that everyone on PSN is coughing because they're homesick from their real jobs or school and Steve is the only fancy man who gets time to play Chell during the day. That is why everyone is coughing in your PSN.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Fair enough. No. No. No. Dad! Did you see what I tweeted the other night? No. There was just some fucking guy.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Some fucking guy. I think he was either on the phone with a friend, or he was in a private party with a friend, because I couldn't fucking hear him. No, I could hear him fine. I couldn't hear who he was talking to. So, yeah. This is what I was playing with the whole game.
Starting point is 01:24:20 again no one else is on headset yeah no no i know i know no the other the other week i was on that yeah man what's with the passing in this game this game's kind of like yeah i know i know no no you're right you're right no it's like oh oh the good shut the fuck up god damn it you're coming through my tv do you have a one-way conversation have an asshole do you have an option to shut off talking i just you know what i i wanted to hear him after a while i wanted to i want to be like i want to see how long this asshole does it for and i want to hear what he says i also want to tweet a video of it and i did nice second question when the oilers win the draft lottery who do you think leaves town to make room for matthews adam and steve no one oh i keep them
Starting point is 01:25:13 They're going, Jesse. Yeah? You got to keep them all together. They got the piece they need now. This is the piece they need. Remember last year when they got the piece they need? They got it. They're done.
Starting point is 01:25:22 You got to keep them together. In fact, you know what? You risk going above the cap. You do whatever you can to keep that team together. They got a bright future. By the way, we will talk about the draft next episode. So I'm leaving it. Saturday is Christmas.
Starting point is 01:25:35 I leave it because Saturday is either Christmas or it's hell. No, no. There's only one option. I will be covering it Live I don't know how I don't know how just yet No we're talking
Starting point is 01:25:47 We're talking At Sportsnet We're talking We're talking about it Third question Would you rather see Ovi or Thornton Get a cup this year
Starting point is 01:25:54 Ooh Damn Cause it looks like It's gonna be their Two teams in the finals Ah Don't make me pick Ah
Starting point is 01:26:08 Adam who you got See, the Caps could do this again next year, right? Yeah This is San Jose's last kick I want Joe Thornton to win it So he can pass it to James Reimer Oh Okay, yeah, Reimer puts it over the top
Starting point is 01:26:24 You're right, you're absolutely right Okay He got two shutouts for them in the regular season I know, I know In his first, like, four games or something? Eight Or something like that Yeah, he only played eight games
Starting point is 01:26:35 Two of them were shutouts Another Reddit question Got three upvotes. Wow. Hey, guys. I'm a Blackhawks fan. Boo. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:26:45 The Hawks haven't been out this early in years. I think I may need to take up a new hobby now that my schedule is a little lighter. In years. What do Leafs fans do during the playoffs? He needs a hobby. The answer is not play golf. A-holes. We don't play golf.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Golf's boring. What do you mean the laughs don't play golf? Aren't the laughs golfing? You bunch of sheep. It's literally like your uncle from 1942 came up with that joke and never let it go because that was his crowning achievement. Imagine having the same insult every year for like your entire life. What have you contributed to the planet? Right.
Starting point is 01:27:35 What do you do? You know what? You look forward to next year And you appreciate the good hockey You appreciate the good hockey Man Who wasn't watching game 7 Of the Blackhawks Blues
Starting point is 01:27:48 There were probably fans At game 6 of Nashville Anaheim Watching that game on their phone Did you see they kept cutting To Nashville Anaheim They kept doing these Weird 30 second things And then they
Starting point is 01:27:58 And then Strombo would come in With a voiceover Because they'd be like Ah that's too long in the game It was weird I'm not sure I think that might have Been depending on what channel
Starting point is 01:28:06 You watched on Did you watch on CBC or Sportsnet? I watched on Game Center. Interesting. Because I started on Sportsnet and I was like, what's going on? And then I put it on CBC and it was uninterrupted. So I switched over to the CBC eventually. I don't know what happened there.
Starting point is 01:28:20 The whole hockey world was talking about that one game. Do you want to know what I do? Every time the Leafs don't make it past the first round, which has been the best part of my life, actually. I seethe. I get angry. I am disappointed. I now go online
Starting point is 01:28:38 and shoot people in the head in Star Wars Battlefront but before I had that outlet I would just sit on that anger and then explode the next season when again the same things kept happening and what I would say is that that worked really well for me
Starting point is 01:28:53 because I feel like I'm a well adjusted pretty cool guy if I can, first of all yes second of all, can I make a suggestion just watch the DVD recapping their win last year You spoiled brat Yeah really
Starting point is 01:29:08 Damn black This is what it feels like You have no fucking clue What it feels like None of you do I would love to know What it's like To have a team
Starting point is 01:29:16 Expected To go past The first round Like you're confident The Toronto Raptors I wonder what it's Not expected No it doesn't count
Starting point is 01:29:23 Even going into the playoffs They're not expected To go past the first round And it's like Like in Toronto It's a freaking Shock If they win a game
Starting point is 01:29:32 In the first round the Blue Jays getting to the second round oh my god that was like well they were at the end I would say
Starting point is 01:29:39 they were expected yes that would have been a huge upset of Texas especially if they swept them they almost did I'm at the point where if the Raptors
Starting point is 01:29:48 get knocked out round one this year fuck you I'm not paying attention yeah I'm not you blow up the team I'm not
Starting point is 01:29:54 I think you're allowed to be a fair weather fan I don't know if I mean I'll be watching the game tonight better see a killer instinct from DeMar DeRozan tonight or honestly, he's gone next year.
Starting point is 01:30:07 It's just, hey, you want to walk away? Okay, we don't care. The Nets series was awesome. The Wizards series was a travesty. And if they lose this one, which they're heavily, heavily favored in, I'm done. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Like last year, there's no way they should have got swept. They should have won last year. All three years, we've been the better team. Yes. No, the Nets series was incredible. That was a lot of fun. That was a lot of fun, and they were, what, they lose by one point? We still almost won 50 games in the regular season.
Starting point is 01:30:39 We won the division. Just so you can understand where Toronto fan comes from, we don't win anything ever. Ever. Ever. Freaking ever. We barely make the effing playoffs. So for us, it's like you're asking us what we do.
Starting point is 01:30:53 I seethe. I'm mad. I hate it. I really hate it. Because you know what? Toronto is better than 99% of the freaking cities in North America and in the world. Whoa!
Starting point is 01:31:02 And the fact that we have so much trouble winning here has nothing to do with the fan base, nothing to do with the country we're in, everything to do with the way the teams have been managed. And as I've told you before, the reason the Leafs haven't won has been gross mismanagement. Year after year, regime after regime, I'll say the same thing about the Raptors. I mean, we talked to, I remember talking to Richard Petty about Kevin O'Neill. He was on this show talking to Kevin O'Neill, the reason that Vince Carter wanted to leave. like it was just like these are
Starting point is 01:31:32 these are things that happened that should have never happened and Richard even admitted that I told you Toronto is old Gil from the Simpsons yes
Starting point is 01:31:41 oh we're gonna put it together this time oh we got the Pacers in round one oh god oh we're just and what I love about Shanahan is like
Starting point is 01:31:49 no we are going to do this we're gonna do this right we're gonna do it beyond just drafting because by the way it takes more than just drafting and we're going to expect
Starting point is 01:31:58 to win Not win a round Not win two Not win three Win the whole Damn thing Every year Alright well we might be bad
Starting point is 01:32:06 For a while As opposed to what We're always bad Exactly Do it the right way So let's be bad But with a goal in mind You guys
Starting point is 01:32:13 The Toronto Argos Won the Grey Cup In 2012 In an Eight Team League The NHL was
Starting point is 01:32:22 Six teams When we won The Stanley Cup So Yeah Does it count Yeah there have been With no disrespect
Starting point is 01:32:29 To 60s standards, yes. No disrespect to the Argos, because you know what? Those are great football players. A lot of them, the only reason that they're in the CFL and a lot of reasons is just straight-up stature, just genetics. These guys are all very good athletes. It's just that a lot of the times they're a lot smaller than NFL athletes, so they can't compete size-wise,
Starting point is 01:32:50 or there's a mark against them from scouts just because of that. I just, I don't know. it's just there's something about that sport that I can't get into and maybe it's because I'm an NFL snob maybe that's okay maybe it's not okay I don't know
Starting point is 01:33:07 Adam NFL fan just here you big NFL fan I am okay so the both of you explain to me why Tom Brady is suspended for something he did two years ago because there's a lot of procedures they had to go through
Starting point is 01:33:21 to get but wasn't it thrown out they went to an appeals court which you can do who's they NFL the NFL which you can do
Starting point is 01:33:30 under the law of the United States of America but how did it get thrown out in the first place the judge decided that they didn't
Starting point is 01:33:38 have a right to suspend Tom Brady no the judge decided that Tom Brady didn't do it goddamn game
Starting point is 01:33:44 they weren't ruling on whether he did it or not they were ruling on if they had a right to suspend him for that action they did
Starting point is 01:33:51 and they said they did not and they threw out his suspension and then the NFL was like no we're gonna appeal that and then they did appeal it and then he broke the rules yeah it's that scene from south park
Starting point is 01:34:02 yeah oh my god so now he's suspended here's my question how does he get out of it this time he's going to the supreme court but that's probably not going to happen why not because the supreme court's gonna be like this is stupid weren't wasn't didn't one of you try to tell me how his contract is designed for this to happen it's great adam yeah yeah well what happened was They knew that this was going to be the ruling So the Patriots Redid Brady's contract Because in the NFL you can do that
Starting point is 01:34:31 Signed him to a two year deal How much does Tom Brady make this year? A million dollars Now ask me what his signing bonus is $28 million Which is guaranteed Which he gets to keep So the best part about this
Starting point is 01:34:47 Is that now when he gets suspended For the four games He's going to have to sit out There's no recourse he will lose $250,000 a game rather than whatever it would have been under $900,000. It would have been $2.5 million or something like that because he was making $9 million a year plus
Starting point is 01:35:01 bonus. Roger Goodell LLLL Oh well. And the team will be fine. They'll go 3-1 or whatever. Yeah because they're the freaking Patriots. So anyway. They're the Blackhawks. Sports everybody. Sports. I saw
Starting point is 01:35:17 this tweet. It was like Tom Brady deflates a football. He needs to go to jail Greg Hardy and Johnny Manziel Abused women And then it was NFL Bugger Really
Starting point is 01:35:30 I You know I mean The only reason the NFL Has not suspended Manziel Is because no one's He'll never play in the NFL again Yeah And I don't even know
Starting point is 01:35:37 What the story is That's He's an alcoholic He's an alcoholic That's what it is And unfortunately With addicts They can't stop
Starting point is 01:35:45 And What do we What have we always said On this show We need to invest In mental health that's the problem right now and it seemed pretty obvious
Starting point is 01:35:55 like just from everything I've ever seen of him hanging out with friends that he just surrounds himself with fucking morons man to protect myself I'm going to say that what I said about Manziel is alleged from everything that I've read I have no personal
Starting point is 01:36:10 source that tells me that just taking myself off the hook there just in case Johnny gets mad by the way if he sued me he'd be awfully disappointed because I couldn't hand over much Anyway we're gonna go now We're gonna wrap it up We're gonna wrap it up
Starting point is 01:36:25 Play it safe If you will And uh We'll be back on Thursday When we're gonna talk about Of all things The draft lottery Hey Adam
Starting point is 01:36:32 The draft lottery I'm gonna Drink some nice tea Out of this cup You gonna sip some tea What are you gonna do I might spill some tea Yeah
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