The Steve Dangle Podcast - The Steve Dangle Podcast - Aug 9, 2016 - Absolutely

Episode Date: August 9, 2016

On this episode, the guys freestyle through the dog days of summer, talking Oilers, the hockey landscape and blogging's impact, and a special guest joins for the online portion. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No, I'm not ready. I changed my mind. Well, we have to be ready now. We're on. Oh, okay, fine. I've already pressed record. Okay, that's good. What was that? I don't know. If you're going to commit at least halfway, commit.

That was like a 20% commit. It was very, very 15%. I apologize. You know, I think today's episode is going to be a bit of a free-for-all. Why is that? Well, normally it is with just the three of us anyway. Yes. But also, I mean, it's mid-August, and nothing's happening, and it's the day before Steve's vacation.

He's going to Aberdeen. Yeah. Aberdeen, Scotland. You haven't heard of it, and that's okay. That's not true. Like, super-duper soccer fans have maybe heard of it. Maybe. Possibly. And apparently they speak English there

Although, don't tell Steve that I'm not convinced I'm not convinced Everyone there is literally Groundskeeper Willie Oh my god Like four times as thick And let me preface this with My wife is from there

So I'm not just being a jerk We're also going to Amsterdam Hold on, hold on So that'll be super cool Why do you have to preface this with that? Because some Scots are probably listening right now Going, what? If a Scottish person

came up to you and tried to suggest that they do not have a thick accent they get laughed out of the room I don't think you have to say that

I don't think you're saying something that's too totally dangerous even English people would be like yeah we know see they would

curse me out but like I wouldn't understand it so they would just flam at me right I just don't think you're going to

offend anybody by saying that I think Scots are proud of that they have a good humor oh heck yeah absolutely

Scottish Twitter also great also great watching them spell their own stuff Steve's never mentioned that

before what Scottish Twitter Oh okay good Well here let me tell you about it So It came from this one article Three years ago

Have you guys ever heard of Botany Bay Oh my god A couple things we gotta cover We actually have A few controversies Controversies Some small ones

That involve the hockey world We gotta talk about The Jets and Coyotes jerseys Oh We gotta talk about the Clefbomb Hall Scrivens

Comments Or what else could you call it Adam You could call them the cleft truth bomb oh wow cleft bomb dropped a bomb and it was a truth bomb so it's a cleft truth bomb why are we friends um and then of course tyler dello oh yeah and travis yost there was a reddit ama and we think that you would find it interesting because if you listen to the show chances are you are a fan of uh using science to predict things you might not understand the science you might be like me and and not understand the math behind it but if the math

behind it's true you go well yeah well if the math says so then that's what i would do i trust the smart person now that so this would be the time in the episode where uh jim benning should shut it off right now wouldn't it be great if he was like give jim five seconds okay jim's got oh good good good sorry we're gonna say it'd be great if he was a regular listener and he actually right then went, oh, I don't want to turn it off. But Adam said I have to. So this is a very, very interesting conversation. So Travis Yost, set up who Travis is, Steve.

He's a blogger, primarily analytics-based. I think he's done some work for the enemy. The three-letter enemy that shan't be named. No, he's a fan of the Senators. Oh, he's all kinds of terrible in that regard. Wow. bad choice I know

just awful just awful and he did a Reddit AMA about Tyler Dello hold up hold up who's he done work for

three letter oh three letter network ah yes NBC yes okay so he's done some work

with them and so he was he did this Reddit AMA and was it about him or was it about Tyler Dello well an AMA doesn't ask me anything

right so I'm sure someone asked him about Tyler Dello, who, by the way, some of you may not know, Dello is, I guess, one of the—I would put him on the, like, Mount Rushmore of the hockey blogosphere. He was a very early adapter, very cantankerous, which is—

I think he helped the hockey blogging analytics community kind of develop that identity of being really brash. But he was smart. With his writing, too, and that led to a consulting job with the Edmonton Oilers, and recently they opted not to renew him. Which also, conversely, at the same time happened in Montreal, correct? Sort of, yes. Similarly, they did not renew, I think his name is Matt Pfeffer? Pfeiffer?

Pfeiffer. Pfeiffer, sure. Until further notice, he's Matt Pfeiffer. And the big thing with him was supposedly he made a passionate pitch to the Canadians when they were talking about doing the P.K. Subban trade. Please, for the love of God, don't do this. And they did it anyway, and that played a role in him not being back with the organization as well. I don't think either of these guys were fired. They just weren't renewed.

I don't know if anybody listening works in a corporation. but you'll find if you work in certain corporations in certain environments that people are afraid to say no to their uppers and actually that's in any job, corporation, not corporation, just afraid because

even if the person they work for is someone that needs to hear it because they are wrong and often time it's the way you deliver that what you are saying to correct your boss that that makes or breaks them changing their mind now i have to respect mr pfeiffer until

further notice that's his name because yes and we'll get to yost and dello in a second because that is not an easy thing to do he had to know when he was making that pitch that his reputation if they didn't go with him like think of this politically his reputation is on the line right in politically in the social structure of the montreal canadians you make that pitch they go against your word it means that they don't care what you think and i gotta give him extra props because you know him and dello kind of found themselves in similar situations no one mentioned dello's age not once in in all the conversation i saw with with matt we'll call him now call him the pfeiffer pfeiffer with matt we looked that up jesse can we just die pfeiffer

Yes. Not Mekhi Pfeiffer. No, there's no Mekhi Pfeiffer. No movie. With Matt, everyone went, and he's just some 21-year-old. Is he 21? He's 21. Granted, young.

Very young. I'm surprised the Habs hired a guy that young. But, you know, I'm sure a lot of people listening to the show can sympathize. You know, you do got to deal with ageism. You know? So it's hard enough to get your point across to a superior, and then you've got to deal with your age and it's funny because

if you're 21 and your answer is correct it's as correct as a 40 year old's correct your answer doesn't get corrector the older you get and it's funny that in an era where

we value youth, we value the knowledge of youth more than ever it's interesting that they would make that move we need young minds we need people like in in our organizations we need people who can run social media accounts there's a lot of old teach like i had interns teach me how to use snapchat and i'm not old but it can't it was like i'm like now i can learn to use this or i can use this properly so the age of social media has kind of gotten rid of the middle ground so it's either i'm not

listening to you because you're too young or this snapchat stuff is beyond me but you're young so here with no guidance here yeah run this with no help or expertise from us because we don't know here you go and then we'll set up a bot that auto replies to anything you write it and then people start writing things with bad words

and it tweets back at them hey happy 100th anniversary and we're what was the thing that did that it was the Montreal Canadiens right oh it was just their 100th anniversary like little captions postcards on twitter

racist stuff and swear words and sexist stuff I forgot oh my god we never even talked about that on this show did we?

yeah we mentioned it it was a while ago dude you just you can't trust the internet like that what are you doing? are you nuts? well that's people

that don't understand the internet so here's this 21 year old kid he's working for the Montreal Canadiens and he has the gall to say to Marc Bergevin

and the brain trust although I wouldn't use brain trust I would just use people making decisions The not trustworthy people with half a brain there. Oh, Adam. How dare you?

And he goes to them and he goes, you can't do this. Yeah. And they fire him. Or they let him go. They don't renew him. I think they mutually agreed to part ways. Which I think for him will be a smart decision. Don't be surprised, by the way.

Don't be surprised when this deal inevitably goes south for them. And it will. I mean, it may not this year. And we may not see it this year. But wait until P.K. Subban wins two or three more Norris trophies and the Nashville Predators are winning the Stanley Cup. I hope P.K. does to Montreal what Phil did to Toronto. I don't think it's entirely a coincidence that Cam Chiron and a lot of the other analytics writers of old, yeah, 2013. I don't think it's a coincidence that they argued against so many things that they thought would be disasters.

and then those things ended up being disasters and they were hired shortly after. Yes. How did you know that? How were you able to predict that? Right. Funny. Numbers.

So then that brings us to a similar situation in Edmonton. So Travis Yost was asked on the Reddit AMA, and I'm just going to read it verbatim. Yes, please, because I forget. From Deformed Orange. Ah, good. Why do you think Tyler Delo no longer works for the Oilers and who do you think thought they were better off without him?

Now, Travis Yost answers, especially by hockey terms, the most honest way that you've ever seen in your life, which is great. It's so nice because hockey, it's so rare that that happens. Not always the best for self-preservation, but it's the best for your audience, that's for sure. Travis says about Tyler, because he's not a yes man and that's the direction the team is largely going.

He'll sign with another team shortly. Which, congrats to whoever gets him. Because, you know, we talked about Justin Bourne a lot and how it wasn't just that he knew hockey, he knew how to talk about it. He knew how to convey a point. And Justin, who is now working for the Leafs. Yeah, and two of the best guys at that, I think, were Justin,

who, yes, is now the Marlies video coach, I believe, unless his position has changed, and Tyler Dello, who is a free agent. Free agent, consultant. It's a good way to be. Absolutely. Yeah, or who knows? Maybe he'll be back with Sportsnet instead

because he did some stuff with Sportsnet previously too. I have not spoken to him, by the way. So, interestingly, both of these teams made highly questionable, probably terrible moves. And that is not to bash Shea Weber or Adam Larson. That doesn't mean that they're bad hockey players. Let me get that out of the way. Two fantastic players.

Yep. I think Shea Weber's on the decline, but it doesn't mean he's not a world-class hockey player. I'll take both on the Leafs tomorrow. Absolutely. But for what they were traded for, the value does not line up. And I wonder if that same situation did not happen in Edmonton.

Passionate plea like, this is wrong. Don't make this haul for Larson deal. You're not getting enough in return. And they did it anyway. see i'm a little i'm mystified by hall i think there's a couple things here but i'm mystified by hall because with suban there were all these like little whispers and little leaks to the media and oh he was late for a bunch of practices and there was this and there was that but no player

just straight up came out and went yep it kind of sucked not having him or sorry it kind of sucked having him markov said something a little cryptic uh which i thought was weird because that's that was his d partner for a long time um what did he say do you i can't remember exactly it's it's been so long since we did a show just the three of us right right and so stuff kind of goes to the wayside but jesse's furiously looking that up right now yes i'm sure i'm sure we'll find it so there was nothing too concrete about pk but now we've had two players who played with hall on the oilers who have come out and uh sort of called him out scrivens didn't really do it on this show um he talked about the trade i thought pretty fairly pretty analytically um you know from

the gm standpoint from the on ice standpoint and then clef bomb just comes out and he goes taylor wasn't there uh when we needed him the most and then i believe it was russian reporter igor iranko uh asked scrivens about it because scrivens is now on a khl team dynamo minsk And Scrivens went, yeah, I think there's some truth to that. Now, it's funny. When Ben Scrivens was on this program, he mentioned a phenomena that happens on Twitter. And that is, well, you can't even keep a job in the NHL.

You're an AHL goaltender, so what right have you to speak? And as soon as Scrivens came out and backed that up, somebody in my timeline retweeted somebody else retweeting that, saying, oh, he can't even find a job in the AHL. He has to go to the KHL. What a loser! How about... Loser!

How about he agreed with your team's best defenseman? How about that? How about he agreed with a guy who's locked up for, what, six more years? Seven years? Yeah. Cleft bomb? A cleft truth bomb. Cleft truth bomb.

On a bad day, he's your second best defenseman? Okay. I mean, yeah, who's he, I guess. Well, listen. If you're good enough to play in the KHL, and you played on the team, if you're good enough to play in the NHL, I think you can make the comment without people going, your contract expired.

You wouldn't be saying it if he was like, he's great. Oh, well, what would you know about how great he is? You're in the KHL. That would be like saying, if you apply that logic, that means that nobody who hasn't played in the NHL can make comments about the NHL.

What, so I'm going to retire from the podcast and from videos right now? Yeah, you have to stop, Steve, because you don't count. It's a shame. I was told that for a long time. and luckily I ignored it that is probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard

kept being a loud mouth that would be like saying if you're a player you'd automatically be a great coach Wayne Gretzky that's a story from my book right and that kind of I find it

very very funny that these people it's like they've paid lip service it's like the Oilers and the Habs have paid lip service They've gone, okay, we're going to acknowledge that this new form of hockey knowledge exists, and we're going to hire people. But then we're not going to listen to those people when they disagree with us. And what that just tells you is that, again, as much as we think analytics has won a victory, you know, with, and I forget his name in Arizona. John Chayka.

John Chayka, and obviously Kyle Dubas, and all the guys here in Toronto. and there's a few more around the league, we really have a ton of hard-headed old guard hockey men still running the show that are not willing to embrace it. Good, great. Do they work for the Leafs? Nope. Great.

Good. My heart doesn't bleed for these teams. My heart bleeds for the Oilers, for their fans. Only one team wins the Stanley Cup. You know, if 29 teams are that dumb and the Leafs aren't one of them, great. Sick. I don't care. Like at this point

The information's out there Use it or don't See if I care As long as the Leafs He doesn't care Jesse If it's not the Leafs Steve doesn't care He doesn't care

I mean that That's what we should've Named the podcast If it's not the Leafs We don't care Isn't that what it's named? I thought it was Yeah

You're right It's a little It's a little big For a coffee mug Or something like that But we're working on it We gotta Don't we shorten it

If it's I Oh don't even try Don't even try This isn't going well T and this is like Jesse's song hey I committed to that

I committed to that there was there was one thing you reminded me that I wanted to talk about with Dello and it's I mean it's not

it's not a lot of analysis in it but man that has to just suck so much not career wise he'll be fine

oh yeah he'll be fine but he's an Oilers fan like that's how he grew up and He worked for the Oilers

And he's not with them anymore Because he's not a yes man To a bunch of guys he totally disagrees with And I'm just trying to think of that Like imagine if I was smart enough I know you gotta imagine real hard To work for the Leafs And I was a fan

Of them my whole life And I got to work for them And oh my god guys I work for the Leafs And then they just sign David Clarkson And you know make a bunch of stupid decisions And I just have my heart broken That has to suck It probably sucks right now

But you gotta look long term On this stuff Because here's what owners remember Say you're Jeff Molson And you completely Believe in Marc Bergevin Which I don't know how that's possible

But you do Then all of a sudden Marc Bergevin screws up your team And believe me This will happen In the next three years this will happen you know

Carey Price as long as he's good the team's good but Carey Price has been injured and Carey Price is also an unrestricted free agent quite soon

and who knows if he wants to stick around damn it though if he returns to Carey Price form this all goes away if you have Carey Price you can win

a Stanley Cup absolutely with a mediocre team I agree and I might be eating my words I think oh oh will it just be

World War 3 yeah absolutely and it'll be fun to watch but But if I'm right, Jeff Molson looks at that 21-year-old kid because PK will be the real defining moment in all of this, the turning point, you could say. Oh, yeah. He'll look back at this and go, who was the guy that was against this?

Oh, right, that 21-year-old kid who's now 26, 27. Well, I've tried it with the old guys. Maybe I'll try the young guy. I would not rule out either Pfeiffer or Delo going back to those teams eventually. If I were them. If I would look at it and go, hey, maybe right now it's not the time for me. But maybe one day it will be. Or maybe it's be some other team.

That's also business. I don't know if Pfeiffer, Pfeiffer, I don't know if he had any kind of allegiance to Montreal. Yeah. But Delo, like, God, that would suck. Like, I worked for the Leafs' website. that was as close as I got but like if I worked for the team

and they broke my heart like that oh god that's just gotta sting so much but it would feel oh so good one day

when you're the general manager and you're doing all the decisions that you should never know and that's how you have to look at it never know that's how I would look at it if I were them

great good for you but what do you know you're 20 something 28 yeah you don't know I'm already too old

yeah that's true by today's GM standards like I mean you have to be like 26 to and and have a mathematics masters yeah and i mean let me let me stick up for the habs for a second you know there were a lot of strong opinions i had when i was 21 seven years later i'm like i don't know if i should have believed in those quite as strongly but uh you are gonna have to deal with that you're gonna be right in a lot of situations and completely dismissed for being a kid yeah but bergevin's playing the when in doubt carry price

card you're a kid to everyone uh except for taxis and you're an adult so when we come back we're going to talk about a controversy that's a non-controversy but a somewhat of a controversy and a non-troversy non-troversy wow what a clef bomb right yes we'll be right back on sports step five not either fan so let's talk about the winnipeg jets and the phoenix coyotes the phoenix Arizona I know Put a dollar in the phoenix jar So

The Winnipeg Jets will be wearing Their 1979 throwback jerseys The who? The Winnipeg Jets What? I don't understand The Winnipeg Jets organization No they'll stop being a team In like 1996 I think it was

Yes but then they brought them back They brought them back Oh the Atlanta Thrashers well yeah but I mean they moved from Atlanta to Winnipeg

and then became the Jets right the former Atlanta Thrashers yeah so the team formerly known

as Atlanta Thrashers oh okay is playing the team formerly known as the Winnipeg Jets in a very NHL

Christmas this is really like it's a bad script for a bad Christmas movie but What's interesting about this Is the Winnipeg Jets

Could not use Their jersey From the Is it the late 80s Early 90s Something like that They couldn't use The NHL Jets

Version of the jersey Because The Winnipeg Jets Own that jersey Wait Who owns the jersey Oh sorry The Winnipeg Jets

Can't use the Winnipeg Jets jersey Because the Winnipeg Jets Own that Okay Yeah Just making sure Everyone understands The Winnipeg Jets

Of Oh sorry The Atlanta Thrashers Can't use the Winnipeg Jets jersey because the Winnipeg Jets own the Winnipeg Jets. The Winnipeg Jets of Arizona.

Arizona. Winnipeg Jets. Formerly Phoenix. Formerly Phoenix, yes. Is that what's happening? Winnipeg Jets. Yes, that is what happened. Okay, I'll stop being a jerk.

The Winyotes. So, here's what everyone got all in a tizzy about. The Winyotes. The Winyotes, Adam. That's freaking great. No, it's not.

Nope. The Winyotes. More like the Kynotes. Oh! All right. Go ahead, buddy. Okay, yeah, that's probably not good for the microphone. Oh, who cares?

It's just stable. Yeah, you're right. I should punch it, too. So everyone got all in a tizzy because the Winnipeg Jets, the current Winnipeg Jets, released their Heritage Classic jersey, I think it is, and it had an old school logo on it from the WHA. Which I'm surprised they got the trademark for that. I wonder who had that.

the uh supposedly the jets ownership group bought it off of whoever they needed to buy it off of right so that's their jersey for the heritage classic and some people got all crazy about it because the old school jet stuff from the 80s and 90s like you mentioned is technically owned by the Arizona Coyotes who are that team. They are that franchise. They didn't dissolve the franchise. They moved it.

And everyone was saying, oh, well, you're the Thrashers so you can't do that. Because people are jerks. When you go to the history books, who... Arizona has the Winnipeg records from the previous franchise. Yeah, I believe so.

Or did Winnipeg gain them back? Here's what I would know. No. If I were the NHL... Like, the Winnipeg all-time leading scorer is, like, Kovalchuk or something. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah.

Perfect sense. Yeah, it is. It is. Or Danny Healy, I don't know. Whatever. If I were the NHL, here's what I would do. I would give the records

back to the city of Winnipeg. Oh, boy! Okay? Because nobody owns those records. Dentalk is going to murder you. No, the franchise doesn't own them, though. Yeah, they scored the franchise when they were the franchise. Right.

So they kept them when they moved. But that's not the same ownership group. I think we've seen 14 different owners since they moved. I think they might be owned by the NHL. I don't even know anymore. I'm pretty sure they're still partly owned by Gary Bettman. My disdain for this storyline is well documented. I don't care.

Get on the ice and shoot the puck. So here's what you can do is give the Jets back to Winnipeg. That wouldn't make sense. And just let it go. that's like and if I mean if Atlanta had wanted it

I'm sure the Calgary Flames would have been like yeah sure keep your Atlanta Flames records who cares and if the California Golden Seals ever come back

I don't think anyone you know what I mean I don't even know which teams or what I just what who cares are the Devils

the Rockies you're a local fan right you're a local fan you are a local sports team fan do you care about a franchise record

when the franchise came from another city. See, I care about the Leafs franchise records. Why? So I think, because it's important. Now, the Leafs

moved to Shawinigan. Okay. Okay. Pawtucket. Now, yeah, the Pawtucket Toronto Maple Leafs. Pawtucket Leafs, not Toronto.

The Pawtucket Buckets. Yeah. And they changed their name to the Pawtucket Buckets. Okay. Those franchise records happened in Toronto. Therefore,

they belong to the city of Toronto. They belong to the franchise which moved. What a joke. What a joke. You see this mess though? But what I was saying

is Kent, for the love of God, the jerseys are beautiful. Yeah. In an era, and not an era, everyone always makes garbage alternate jerseys.

Whenever a team, almost every time a team decides to change their jersey, it's a carnival. It's a catastrophe. and they made these beautiful, I would wear this frickin' jersey and I don't even like the team, I don't care. I would buy this beautiful jersey, can't we just enjoy a nice thing?

And Twitter said, absolutely not! We will not! Because the Jets are not the Jets, the Coyotes are the Jets. What are you talking about? Look at the jersey! It's got white, it's got red, it's got blue, it's beautiful. Put it on your stupid chest or don't. it's for the fans

in Winnipeg the fans of the Jets let them wear it let them enjoy it and shut up can we just be honest the 1970s Jets jerseys are way better

than the early or the late 80s early 90s ones I don't know no they're pretty good get out of here with your disagreement

it's better it's better they're better I'm sorry I would rather see I would rather see Howard Chuck era or not Howard Chuck era Jets

I want to see like Bobby Hall era Jets I was about to say man I'm trying to think of a Jet over Phil Housley Thomas Steen era Jets

okay Chris Draper era Jets Bob Essenza good one good you call that happy bowling

happy bowling I had strangely I know the Winnipeg Jets from that era quite well because

I went to a burger place called Licks here in Toronto and for some reason they were selling a chain they were selling I don't know if it's

outside of Ontario though that's the thing there's a couple of Licks around though oh yeah okay so that they at the time went to this place

called Wendy's yeah at the time they were selling McDonald's with kids meals is that a time to tell a story here

should we keep interrupting he might well here okay let him go there's a word on one of these who's the whopper there's a word

on one of these right now but they were giving away hockey team card packs but the hockey teams

were like these card packs were like Four years old So I get this in 2000 It's from like 1996 Like their last year there

And I got the entire Earlier yeah Okay fine I got the entire Winnipeg Jets hockey team From like 94-95 That's cool

Steve I really Really want to Tell you to do something But we're on the radio Right now And I I so I hope you enjoy

Your 10 degree weather In Aberdeen Hey It's like 14 Okay Alright Anyway So like

There's a lot of like Really good Jets players That weren't good On the Jets Yeah They were But they were really good

Everywhere else If I remember correctly In NHL 93 They were awesome Because you only played As the team's top line Oh I mean you got Taimou

Yeah The Blues were sick too Because of Brett Hull There you go There you go Arizona didn't reveal Their jerseys did they Are they getting new jerseys

No for the Heritage Classic Are they playing each other Is that how this is working? Who are they playing? I don't know. I thought they were playing each other. I don't know. Dude, there's too many outdoor games.

I thought they were playing each other. I can't wait. I can't wait till they do and they have to throw it back to 10 years ago. Yo, they should wear, it should just be home versus away. Yeah. Yeah, like Wayne Gretzky's 3D Hockey is about as far back as... Who will Taimou play for? Oh my God.

Yeah, right? Can you imagine? Oh. Yeah. and all the Jets have like oh my god we gotta bring back alumni they bring back

like Kelly Buckburger and and uh Posse Nermanen and the Thrashers used to suck oh my god Scott Mellenby

it's the Oilers and the Jets my bad Oilers and the Jets Oilers and the Jets oh that's right because yeah they revealed the jerseys and the Winnipeg Jets

have this bold new jersey with the old school look and everyone's like wow look at this and then the Oilers I think just came out with their jerseys There's a third jersey.

Because they're still classic. You know what? The obnoxiously orange one. That's why Gallo got fired. Because he probably told them the jersey sucked. And they weren't happy. We're going to trade Taylor Hall for Adam Larson. I advise against that, but it's okay.

Also, we're going to wear these bright orange abominations. What? Are you crazy? Are you trying to play a hockey game or land a plane? What are you doing with those jerseys? There's four outdoor games next year, by the way. Edmonton really does. That's it?

Only four. In a lot of ways, you know, with the exception of drafting Connor McDavid, Edmonton does a lot to distance their fans from liking the team. Edmonton fans, God bless them, are the most devoted human beings on the face of the earth. You know what I forgot? What? Gretzky's back. Gretzky's back in Edmonton. What's he doing?

Oh, the statue! No, no, no, no, no, no. Keith Gretzky is now part of Oilers' management. Okay. And he was formerly in Boston. Mm-hmm. And he was part of that video that horrifies Oilers fans and Bruins fans. Which is what?

The video where they're talking about why they should or shouldn't and mostly should trade Tyler Sagan. Which is still... At what point do you take that video down? Because you're ashamed of it. Like, okay, if the Sagan trade is amazing for you, yeah, leave it up. But you get fleeced. Friggin' take it down.

What are you doing? I just think it's funny it's great I think it's funny but back to the jersey hockey fans gosh try your darndest

to enjoy something just do it just do it I promise you won't regret it I think it's just I think that's the world right now I think we just

can't find a way to enjoy things and it's it's sad like okay like here's the thing

suicide squad let's just let's use that as an example oh boy you ready for this I have no dog in this Everybody get ready to tweet at Adam Wilde. Suicide Squad is a good movie.

Oh! World star! World star! Is Suicide Squad a great movie? No. Is Suicide Squad a fun movie? Yes. Is Suicide Squad going to have a deep plot that makes you think about it for weeks later

like when you read 1984 by George Orwell? No. So why are you going in with expectations like that? What the hell is wrong with people? This is a movie People are like, I can't believe that this movie Did this, this, and that You have to establish 8 characters in the first half an hour of the movie

That is not easy to do Tell them why you mad I'm mad I'm mad Because nobody can just go This is what this should be The reason I don't like the All-Star Game Is because the All-Star Game should be fun

And it's not If something is supposed to be fun Go in with the expectations of, oh, this is going to be light fun. And then walk away. And be okay with that. But what if your job is to review the movie? Okay, that's fine. That's fine.

But if you are a movie reviewer, you also have to keep that in mind. That would be like, some of these critics walk into a movie like that and expect it to be Oscar caliber. They go, well, I'm going to put this up against Benjamin Button. And boy, it sure doesn't match up, Jim. And you know what That's like That's literally like Don Cherry expecting

A Stanley Cup And being upset about it In the first game of the season It's ridiculous They're not in the same league See Is that a good comparison Yes

I've stepped back from the mic Because I'm like Let's see how Adam does this one It's true I'm not convinced Adam Have you seen Suicide Squad No because the moment I saw the trailer

For the first time I went That movie is going to be A pile of garbage Now keep in mind Steve gets turned off By things that have too much hype so therefore starring jared i'm out so has not watched game of thrones so i don't know

how valid your argument not because i don't think it's good no because i don't have an intention span it's a flaw in myself you said on this show it's because everybody likes it well okay man you have to watch game of thrones i bet i don't i live in a democracy well steve you sure proved us wrong I did You don't have to I did He sure doesn't have to So you take that

Khaleesi The newest Everybody has to watch it Is Stranger Things It's actually really good I really enjoyed that Everybody has to watch Stranger Things

And I'm like Hey hey hey Maybe start by explaining What the hell it is Because one day It just showed up It just showed up And it's the new thing

That everyone loves And I'm like What are you talking about It's a really good show Really really good show I loved it It's a mystery Like it's an 80s mystery

That's it It's pretty simple I went in with no expectations I thoroughly enjoyed it, and then I walked away and didn't get upset when it wasn't Benjamin Button. Do you ever let something affect your opinion that really shouldn't? What do you mean? Well, so I looked at that trailer for Suicide Squad, and I went, yeah, this looks like a pretty bad movie. This looks like something I'm not going to enjoy at all.

And I was like, all right, maybe I'll go see it. Maybe I'll go see it. And then I saw a tweet, and forgive me, I don't remember who it was by, but it's basically Jared Leto walks up to someone throws his pee at them and then he just goes

I'm crazy yeah all the tweets about I couldn't do it after that all the tweets about his method acting were very funny yeah

I have to give you that I couldn't do it it was Esquire it was Esquire magazine that posted something on Facebook and it was like it was like

yo Jared Leto shut the blank up about your method acting and I'm like everybody's asking him about his method acting so he's answering the question. Are you just angry

because Jared Leto wouldn't talk to you? He's doing media and people are asking him the question. He's promoting a movie! Stop talking about Suicide Squad!

Stop talking about that movie! Stop talking about how you prepared for that role that everybody's been wanting to see for six months. Oh my God.

Oh, it drives me crazy. Anyway, long story short, The Jets should be able to keep their jerseys. The Jets should be able to have their jerseys. Oh, yes.

And those wins and those goals and those moments, those belong Not to the franchise But to the city Of Winnipeg Period

End of story And if you're the Coyotes Give them Like ask for like 100 G's And give them Their damn licenses Like come on

I'm not too worried About that It's I don't know And Jets fans Relax Relax And be happy

With your victory there Because Coyotes fans Were telling me Okay look These Jets fans Are wearing me out Here So just

Be happy in your victory You don't have to rub it In anyone's face You know who you need to worry about the Oilers because that's who you're

playing in that game there's more like small questions like do does Arizona have the

Winnipeg's banners hanging in their arena that's a great question I don't know

yeah I don't know the answer do you take the banner does Colorado have Quebec's

banners in there does Quebec have any banners I don't know I don't

know I don't know I don't know they don't have the I don't

know well and this is all good practice yeah for when Quebec gets and then they want

their stuff back is it gonna be you know did Gila Fleur ever play for Quebec no I remember Gila Fleur on Colorado

clear as day it's in their franchise yeah he is on their franchise that's true it's weird it's weird that is weird

he also played for the Rangers yeah I don't remember that so it didn't happen that's how it works Well, that also means that Theo Fleury was a Quebec Nordique. Did you know that? I do now. How does that work?

So was Taimou Solani. Because they played for the Colorado Avalanche. See? Okay. Patrick Waugh played for both the Montreal Canadiens and the Quebec Nordiques. Do you know how long the Reddit post about this segment is going to be? Oh my God. I can't wait.

I cannot wait for the 16-page essays about this. I can't wait until we get to what somebody already wrote about you on Reddit. Oh God. It's gonna In conclusion Jared Leto Is a coyote's friend Oh my god

The Suicide Squad post alone On our Reddit page Is gonna be bananas Listen You know what's gonna be super When I don't read it Or care No

Here make a Reddit post About why Steve Why Steve should care Someone said like The best thing about Suicide Squad Is all the Harley Quinn Costumes this Halloween

Like that's it That's good for someone That's not true But that's good for someone. Oh, everyone's going to be Harley Quinn. Oh, yeah, I know. Are you kidding me? Yeah, of course.

And they're going to be, oh, who's going to be the absolute hoed who shows up to Halloween parties shirtless with purple gloves and is like, I'm the Joker, man. He's not shirtless in it, though, I don't think. He is in the trailer, and that's good enough. Is he shirtless? He's usually wearing a tie. In the promotional posters, he's like. Was that a good Joker, Jesse?

that face you'll see it on YouTube don't piss at people is that based on something I don't know no it was it was the he was sending rats

he sent rats to Will Smith not well I guess it was Will Smith and Margot Robbie as like gifts or something like he was doing weird stuff and he

he wouldn't let people talk to him on set unless they referred to him as Mr. J and by this way that happens oh shut up Daniel Day

idiot that also happens with Johnny Depp and pirates He completely goes into that character And never leaves And Daniel Day-Lewis does it too Does he have to become a pirate

Or does he just walk around Soho as a pirate They have to refer to him as Mr. K. Richards Okay before we make fun Who owns an island and who doesn't Australia It's obviously working for Johnny He owns his own freaking island Claim everything when you go to Australia

Can I ask you guys just to switch gears for a second what kind of world do you think Tim Tebow lives in? What's Tim Tebow's day-to-day like? He wakes up in the morning, decides he wants a pizza from... I don't think so. I don't think he eats pizza. No.

He's in good shape. Fair enough. Okay. He wants something he's never cooked in his life, but he heads to the kitchen with confidence. He can make that better than anyone's ever made it. I think that's the best way that anybody's ever put it. Now, here's the deal.

In case you haven't been keeping track, Tim Tebow is currently working on a home reno show with Mike Holmes. Did not know that. Holmes on Holmes. Every Christmas, he also hosts the Disney party, like the parade down on ABC. Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This is a guy who was a bad NFL quarterback who was a spectacular college football player yes and had one of the best defenses in history

push him to the playoffs where he lost in like the first game now no he won the first game in OT oh yeah

against the Steelers how could I forget yeah you beat your Steelers yeah yes first play of overtime that made me so mad

oh my god that was a bad year and then because I was already a Leafs fan and then that shut up the Steelers have

19 friggin' Super Bowls in the last 12 years. Yeah, but they don't have 20. And that makes... Exactly. See, Steelers fans have high expectations. Adam thinks the Yankees

are hard done by. So Tim Tebow currently doing that. So what do you think his next job is? And I know you know the answer. Yes, of course. And that is

the lead role in Space Jam 2. Or I suppose now he has to wait for Space Jam 3 after LeBron James gets Space Jam 2. Because he's going

to play Bayba. I gotta read you Deadspin's first line. Oh, yeah. God, they're really hit and miss. But when they hit. When they hit,

they hit dingers. And they hate Tebow. Yeah, and they said, what fresh hell is this? Where Alex Rodriguez is hanging up the cleats and Tim Tebow is, sorry,

where Alex Rodriguez is hanging up the cleats and Tim Tebow was trying to put them on. According to Adam Schefter, TV personality Tim Tebow, which they call. TV personality.

We'll hold a workout for scouts later this month in the hope of landing a career in the MLB. All 30 MLB teams will be invited to the workout later this month where Tebow will hope to catch on as an outfielder. He apparently has spent the last year training for this. I mean, he's an athlete. And this is a direct quote from Adam Schefter's report, apparently. Those who have seen Tebow hit have been surprised

he picked up the sport so quickly after not playing it since he graduated high school in? Uh, 2005. That's correct. I pulled that out of the air. How long ago was 2005?

11 years ago. So again, I ask you, I bring it back to the first question. And Steve, you can answer it the same way. What world does Tim Tebow live in day to day? A world of belief, Adam. A world where anything's possible if you put your mind to it and you work

and you live right is that such a bad world to live in it's not it's not I just am I am a negative

awful person is what you are no I am blown away you need Jesus why can't Tim Tebow wear a Winnipeg Jets jersey why can't he own the rights to the franchise

Tim Tebow literally is Kanye West of sports cause he literally believes he can do anything only the thing is the difference is success see Kanye West

is really good at one thing though but he says he's good at everything Tim Tebow's one thing. No, no, no, that's not true. And at least Kanye kind of backed it up. Yeah, ask Kanye what he's good at, though, and he'll tell you he's good at architectural design,

he's got ideas that can change the world, he's also a great film guy, he's also a great fashion guy. That's what Kanye says about Kanye. Tim is like, I'm just going to do it. I sort of respect that, although I'm kind of mystified by it. See, I'm actually kind of cool with him trying this.

Why not? He's just trying it. Why doesn't he just become The Bachelor? You know? Oh, that's fully going to happen. Oh, for sure. I was going to say, I'm cool with him trying this because I think you should be able to try anything until tomorrow when he's like, Hey, guys, my name's Tim, and this is my hockey blog.

And I go, What? Get off of my turf, Tebow! Anyway, I just thought I'd bring that up. When we go into the download portion of this, we got to talk a little bit about the Olympics and some of the controversies that have arisen, Which is hilarious Because If there's anybody Who's doing

According to the internet A bad job Of covering the Olympics It's NBC And I feel bad for NBC Because every Olympics It's the same story

Everybody hates the coverage On NBC And And Americans go out Of their way to watch CBC In Canada That's pretty great

Yeah Now There's some There's some announcer things That we have to talk about Which are hysterically funny On the download portion Of the Steve Dangle podcast

Which you can get At sportsnet.ca It is brought to you by Panago pizza, it's what's on the inside that counts. Yeah, it's belief. It's walking into that kitchen and going, I can make a Panago pizza, but you can't. So call them and order one.

Deep dish beliefs. Okay, so I want to put you in the announcer's seat. You're doing the Olympics. Really, it could be any sporting event. So let's say an athlete is, and you know this athlete's backstory, and you're explaining this athlete's backstory, to an audience, okay?

The athlete's backstory is their parents weren't involved for whatever reason. In this particular case, drugs and alcohol, which is tragic, right? You know, addiction is a tragic disease, but it's prevalent.

It happens all the time. So this athlete's parents really are their grandparents because they adopted them, okay? Okay. I'm not sure who you're referring to. Doesn't matter. Okay.

Just say athlete X. So athlete X's parents, really, they were raised by their grandparents who adopted them as their own, okay? tell me, would you get into an argument on Twitter? Yes. With fans of that athlete.

After going on TV and saying they were her grandparents. So here's the deal. Okay. There's a guy. Come on. Al Troutwig is a NBC announcer out of New York. Al Troutwig. I've never heard of him before.

He's got 19.9 thousand followers, so people know him. And he referred to Ron and Nellie Biles, who are the grandparents of superstar athlete Simone Biles. Is it tumbling?

I forget the exact... Some kind of flippin' thing. Friggin' damn it. Palma horse? What's that? I don't... Go ahead. She's a gymnast, okay?

She's a gymnast. She's an incredible gymnast at that. He referred to them as grandparents, but they adopted her and her sister in 2001 when their parents were fighting drug and alcohol issues. Now, somebody said, Hey, Al Troutwig, stop calling her parents her grandfather and his wife.

They are her parents. They're not her grandparents. They're her parents now. So Al wrote, They may be mom and dad, but they are not her parents. Wow. Oh.

Now they're grandparent parents. See, I was with him. He didn't need to say that. I was with him. Al, what are you doing? How about either work? How about you don't respond on Twitter? Yes.

There's an interesting combination there. Okay. Talk to me. So. i think it's okay for people to be wrong sometimes without you biting their head off or even correcting them i don't even think you need to like are there are there innocent mistakes still yes but there are some bad ones yeah you should call out the bad ones is that a bad one yeah i mean it's here's the thing is that it isn't biologically incorrect

I don't know if you need to take out I think you might need to take out the first word there however she considers them her parents which makes it correct though so she wants to consider them her parents it doesn't matter who cares

this is what you want to call them they're not her grandparents if that's what they want to call her and he would have been prepped on that believe me if you're going to the Olympics you've got binders full of information on these people binders full of women

oh god yeah I think it was Mitt Romney oh yeah binders of women oh my god wow America so my question for this is why get into

why start this fight because now he's had to come out and apologize and he deleted the tweet but of course people screen capped it because you came out there are innocent mistakes but if someone points out the innocent-ish

mistake, you don't go so what? You know what? You know what? You're right. Or agree to disagree but going out and saying they are not, capital letters

N-O-T, her parents? Dude, you've just taken somewhat right and made it completely wrong. Because that is incorrect and then so here's somebody else um tweeted him and said uh and now you invite everyone else now you've invited everyone else because someone else tweeted and it wasn't him directly but he was tagged in and they're like lmao this guy needs a life and a brain so he retweets it and goes how's your life going compared to mine

oh so he's just a giant douchebag like he lives his life as a douche maybe maybe he's a really nice guy i don't believe that i don't know no here's the thing reasons people say things all the time someone's saying he needs to get a life his response and rightfully so is fuck you i'm at the olympics dick what are you doing but you don't actually say that you say that you scream it as loud as you can in your head and publicly you say you're cordial you say no you just you look around the room be like oh i'm at the olympics why do i care about what this random person on twitter is tweeting steve is still in his mom's basement okay okay so i'm gonna give this person a second of my time i don't go i am tweeting you from my fucking house i paid for asshole

I don't say that I work for Sportsnet Like I don't do that Believe me I think it loudly Alright now But like I wouldn't be like

Hey asshole So I We're in the online portion I uh I got a tweet today I got a tweet today that said How'd it go Adam? Uh

I got a tweet today that said Hey You need to stop using the word Absolutely I heard it seven times In your 640 chat Hashtag thesaurus And they were talking about

Breakfast television so I tweeted them back and I said absolutely in catwalkers we'll look into that comma absolutely see I think you're wrong

for looking at the tweet for more than half a second and then thinking of a reply and then tweeting back you should have been like hey I'm fucking Adam Wild who has six jobs and I'm on fucking BT

why am I giving this a second of my time you know what I've done three times recently and I'm so proud of myself like I will absolutely pat myself on the back for this

I have typed out a tweet and then deleted it and deleted it smart you know how hard that is to do you've already done all the work

come up with your witty shit and I got rid of it I got rid of that genius got rid of it kept it in here lock it up

because you don't have to you don't have to there is there is I believe I've preached this on the podcast multiple times

you learn about hills worth dying on right that is not Contract lengths are the hell we will die on. Oh, wait. Eight years. Damn it.

Sorry. Hashtag lockout. Hashtag. Which one? Which one? Good times. Good times. Well, actually, I got to give a shout out to Liam, who responded very funnily to this

tweet that I... Funnily is not a word. Is it funnily, Adam? It's funnily. Yeah. Hashtag dictionary. He said, hey, Adam, what's your favorite brand of vodka? The answer is absolute.

But feel free to answer anyway Nice Shout out to Liam That's very funny You know the thing is I imagine That Something like that

Would probably make Like if you're somebody That gets bothered By little things A. Twitter's not for you B. Watching television In the morning Probably not for you

If you're in a bad mood Put your fucking phone down Yeah Oh Cause you can easily respond And technically be correct You do it on TV then You get on there

And say the words and try not to look like a dick. Yeah. That person's probably right. That person is probably right. I probably said it seven times. They're absolutely right. I would imagine they are.

But, I don't know. They're also technically not her parents. Not. Yeah, that's the key. Not her parents. They are not. Know the facts. It's funny.

You're explaining that story and I'm like, okay, I'm sort of with him. I'm sort of it's always funny the moment you realize oh they lost me yeah

they lost me hey we obviously saw that and I wanted to bring this up because I think it's important we saw Alex Rodriguez he'll be released after Friday's game

Friday yeah so they held a press conference he is four home runs short of 700 and they're not gonna even they have barely bothered to start him

this year he's played 50 games or something all at DH and and you know he's due his millions next year anyway, and he's going to be

a quote-unquote special assistant. Now, is Alex Rodriguez finally getting what Alex Rodriguez has always deserved? What is that? Well, a guy like Alex Rodriguez, probably, arguably, the best baseball

player of all time. I don't know. After Barry Bonds. After... You're going to make people real mad. If you're taking out Stero, he's the greatest baseball player ever. Who other than Babe Ruth is like one of the top ten baseball players of all time

who is like still revered in retirement? Like Hank Aaron and who? Cy Young. Joe DiMaggio. Joe DiMaggio. Baseball is so old, you can go back far enough. That's true. But like I'm trying to think of like Ty Cobb has all sorts of terrible things on his record.

Derek Jeter? Ted Williams? Derek Jeter Ted Williams isn't his freaking head frozen I don't know is it and there was some

weird thing with his family I guess he didn't technically do anything I don't know I don't know enough about him but like

Barry Bonds has you know such a such terrible things following him I mean just steroids really

Ted Griffey Jr there's a guy maybe the last one yeah Hall of Fame last weekend yeah there's a guy

there's a guy but pete rose is disgraced yeah alex rodriguez some of the best players of all time are disgraced steroids aside let's take alex rodriguez's steroids scandal out of it alex rodriguez for a good chunk of his career was an absolute poison wherever he went he had the most gift he's a freak athletically he is exactly how tall you want to be exactly how strong you want to be exactly how smart you want to be exactly the hand-eye coordination you want to have exactly how quick you want to be on your feet at least in his youth and how you want to smell probably that too but alex rodriguez took all of that and rammed it down people's

throats and said f you i'm alex rodriguez and i wonder now because alex rodriguez should have had parades thrown for him the way especially americans but we love our baseball up here i i we love it just as much, in fact. It's just the Jays have sucked for such a long time. We lead the league in attendance right now. Yes! And every time the Jays are good. 40,000 people a night. Every time the Jays are good, we do. We did it in the early 90s, too.

Three or four years ago, it was like 12,000 people. Yeah. And that's because they hadn't won for 17, 18 years. And, you know, in big cities, there's lots of shit to do. Why are we going to go watch a losing team? So here's the thing. Alex Rodriguez should have literally

they should change. He's so good that they should have changed the Hall of Fame rules for him to be allowed in early. Like Gretzky. He should retire and they should be like, yep.

Yep. But Alex Rodriguez is going to struggle. Struggle. To get in. Yes. Is Barry Vons in? No.

No. Mark McGuire is not in. Sammy Sosa is not in. Roger Clemens is not in. Wow. Now, Roger Clemens was, I would argue, good pre-steroids.

I think the reason Roger Clemens took steroids was to extend his career. But Roger Clemens was a world-class, unbelievable, probably best pitcher of all time. Now, and then there are going to be people that disagree with me on that. I just think it's funny that a guy who was so terrible to so many people is now not getting the accolades.

No one's doing... Retiring mid-season. Mid-season. It's not even over. The Yankees are releasing you. They want you off the team. And nobody cares. Aren't they within striking distance of a playoff spot?

No, they traded Cashman. They've given up for the CQ. So that's even more reason to keep them on there. They're not playing for anything. Wow. They can let them sit there. And they won't let them do it. And I just think, how about that?

How about that? If you're terrible for long enough, it doesn't matter how good you are. I mean, he made so much money that they calculated every time he caught a ball, it was worth $31,000. Couldn't he buy the Leafs on his own? Yes. Yes, he could. Yeah.

Because here's the thing. his deal came up I think five years ago where he had an opt-out clause he was making 25 million a year he had an opt-out clause so then they were like oh well I guess

we gotta re-sign Rodriguez again so then they re-upped him and I think it was what is it it was 30 something the first year of it or something would it be on

baseball reference or something I don't know I can tell you half a second this guy had it all and he was good looking too sure

and he screwed it all up and I just think how freaking poetic that you're retiring Alex Rodriguez and nobody cares not a whisper yeah

meanwhile like if he was great there would be essay after diatribe after whatever all about blog posts websites devoted

to Alex Rodriguez and nobody cares meanwhile you know who's getting like the yogurt treatment right now the Temu Solani treatment Ichiro

deservedly so because he deserves it and then there was a did you see this was another thing I wanted to bring up there was a guy on

and I forget his name forgive me on ESPN who tweeted you'd think after all this time Ichiro would learn to speak English and here's the deal Ichiro does speak English

but chooses not to uses a translator so that nothing gets lost in translation because you know headlines can be taken out of context so he uses a translator just to make sure because he's that exacting they say that English is like really good yeah he also speaks Spanish

a lot of Nikolai Kuliman was notorious for that Like he'd be like Oh I don't I don't know Like when reporters are around And then the second The camera and the microphone

Disappear Oh hey man Yeah Like what's up Well Ichiro was doing this Because it was his It was the 3000 hit Press conference

So he was using a translator For that And I don't blame him for that And even if Ichiro Didn't want to speak English So what? Does that change your life At all?

This guy This guy's pretty big Always ask yourself this am I being an asshole? And listen, we all have been that. I will stand up. I'll be the first person to admit

been an a-hole many times. Not, not, not even, sometimes you are and you don't even realize you're being and then, and then it takes someone else to go,

hey man, being an a-hole. Like Steve has taken me aside. Steve once put, took me out to lunch and said, listen, there's some stuff that you've done that isn't flying.

I don't even know if you remember this. He took me to like Jack Astor's once and, and said, yeah, and you're like, listen, and,

and, and you said, listen there's some stuff and some things and I'll have you looked at it in this perspective

you weren't mean about it I don't remember this at all yeah it was a couple years ago it wasn't that serious but you did take me on and go hey

hey listen fuckface stop being such a dick but that but I didn't do it on purpose but I still was an asshole right I think

Steve's right take a step back walk away from the computer walk away from the phone write the tweet delete the tweet I'm always amazed by how quickly someone

will be like I don't like so and so okay well how come well because they do this I'm like well maybe you don't like that about so and so

you just don't like that entire person because of that one thing yeah I don't know I don't know either I've also calmed down in my old age

at the peak not true at all A-Rod earned 33 million dollars in one year 2009 2000 he earned as a

baseball player what basketball players are getting to. That's insane. And what hockey players earn over six years. Over their life. If they're good. Or Darren Helm. Sorry, there were some weird contracts over the summer. If you're good or Darren

Helm. That's David Clarkson's, almost David Clarkson's number. He used to be 35? 37? Wasn't he 37.5 or something? It was over 35. Yeah, it was a lot. Hey, we got to make a phone call. Hello?

Hello, Sarah? Hi. Hi, it's the Steve Dangle podcast calling. How are you? Oh, hi, I'm good. Good. Okay, so let's bring on Sarah and announce, put some context into who Sarah is. So, Steve, you heard, we did an episode a couple weeks ago.

Yes. Oh, are we recording right now? Yeah, we are. Oh, I'm sorry. Hi. So, you're on our show right now. Where we were talking about what's up in Liberty Village. And Jesse brought up the idea.

The crazy idea, allegedly. Allegedly. Of a sober bar. To which we kind of chuckled. Maybe we're a bit harsh. Definitely we're a bit harsh. And it's interesting because Steve got a message not two, three days later. I did.

Do you want to read it out? I was like, who is this Sarah person? I don't know her. It says First of all It starts Hey Period

I'm like I'm in trouble I'm in trouble Hey Just listen to your podcast Where you talked about Our sober bar Oh

Great comments Uh oh I don't think she meant that Really liked hearing What you boys had to say Boys Thanks for the exposure And the critiques

I appreciate it Smiley face She absolutely did not we do serve a ton of non-alcoholic beer we're actually a healing center and specialize in stress management I work with a bunch of

recovering addicts and amazing people and they expressed the need for this so thanks again XO Sarah that's harsh XO is harsh oh I'm not done and neither is she

Okay, alright, continue Steve If you're ever around and want to have a In quotes, drink Just shoot me a message Sarah Welcome to the show, Sarah I guess co-owner of the Sober Bar in Liberty Village

That's right, welcome around the show Now Sarah First off, I can tell that you work Because every business owner these days has to work in customer service I can tell you work in customer service Because you write a cutting message without being cutting That was great um and and i understand if you hate us i think that's fair oh my gosh not at all

if you own a business you have to be willing to extract the truth out of any critique so wow hey that's oh my god you do work in customer service this is the exact kind of language whenever i wanted to tell someone to f off when i was behind the retail till at the toronto zoo yes yes okay sir you have a good day yeah you have a good day that's a great point sir that's a great point so sarah here's here's the deal yeah um beyond beyond having you on and and and you know having you call us out which i think was justified uh i don't know adam she liked her critiques i have a question though oh okay jesse go ahead i i just want to know the point of a sober bar all right because it sounds like just a restaurant

so sarah i just want you to explain to me why this is a thing so uh there is a growing market in toronto for kind of a consciousness event so people go and want to dance they want to interact with people and they don't want to drink and they just want that environment it's not messy there's not like random people hitting on you or the energy is not dirty and so all over the city there's more and more events where they're sober and so we just wanted to create an event for our customers and our clients for them to come together and just hang out and have great music and djs and bands and so kind of take part in the whole bar atmosphere but not be you know all the gross energy that's involved there what kind of i mean listening to

that it sounds great what kind of awful person would even take issue with that what kind of awful Terrible Morally corrupt Group of people Might have an issue with that And I Sarah I would like to be the first one

Although Will not be the last To apologize to you The work that you do Obviously we had no idea about the Addiction counseling And that sort of thing That you work with as well

Did we know that? We brought up that it's probably Part of it Did we? Oh yeah Oh you just steamrolled right through All of that Adam I'm not the best listener in the world

But Sarah I apologize Wholeheartedly I was wrong And when you put it that way It's a great idea And I mean that genuinely I truly truly do I'm just an idiot

And that is truly That is the truth Jesse can you isolate that I have a second question Jesse go ahead Do people actually enjoy the taste of non-alcoholic beer Oh yeah See now this is

There's a curator In the city called Ted Fleming And premium near beer And he brings in The best tasting Non-alcoholic beer And so

All kinds of sparkling Champagne And excellent beers And they taste good See I got in trouble Because when we brought this up I said that beer Doesn't actually taste good

And our listeners Lost it with me Categorically false Yeah Well not really But you can find Other cocktails So anyway

Can we I want you to do Take as much time As you want Shout out everything Yeah Shout out everything I want to know

I want to know Where we can find this place I want to know What website Twitter Instagram Everything How to send you money

Yeah And flowers To apologize Truly Well we are Located in Liberty Village At 7 Fraser Unit 2

The Instagram Is Temple23Toronto So is the Twitter And Temple23 On Facebook And we would love to meet all of you guys Amazing

Temple 23, Temple 23, Temple 23 We're coming Do not forget that All three of us are going The second she messaged me I went back and I listened to that segment Because I was like Oh my god, what awful things did I say

About the Sober Bar And upon further review I actually thought It was kind of a clever idea And these two Dastardly villains Adam and Jesse That make the criticism

All I'm saying You can go to Starbucks They play some good music too And all I'm saying is All I'm saying is I'm an idiot And I'm sorry But I can't wait to go

And by the way We're all going We are all going there And And we're taking pictures And we're tweeting it out In fact We might

We might need to do A little tweet up there Maybe Maybe after a Marley's game Or something We will go there That sounds great This is Sarah

I appreciate your patience I appreciate the letter to Steve That definitely cut us off at the knees We apologize for our dumbness It is very strong After all, we are the general public So we're not necessarily, you know Oh, I do have a story for you, Sarah

Actually So I was At my buddy's cottage Which is on an island East of Gananaquay um i didn't even know where that was until i drove past it um so again island remote and a girl i had never met walked up to me and went hey you have the podcast and i'm like oh yeah she's a podcast listener she's a hockey fan nope she goes you have the podcast where you

talked about the sober bar so the word is getting out sarah hey sarah how did you even who even showed you the podcast unless you're... Are you a listener? No. No. Okay. No.

No. Hey, again, I appreciate the honesty. Who showed you it? My friend, Stephanie Vasos, actually. She listens to your podcast every week.

We know her. Yeah. I know her. She tweets us. Stephanie Vasos? Oh, yeah. Stephanie, if you're listening, don't blow up our spot.

How dare you? This one was okay. Don't screw up balconies. Don't screw up any of the goofy little things Don't screw up the Metro Pass You have to admit, Sarah, that page is full of gems Would you not say? I would say

Yeah, thank you You know what? We can't wait to meet you in person You seem like a great person And we'll be by this season, I guarantee it Amazing Looking forward to it And boy, I have never wanted to take something back

More than I do right now And I've said some dumb things Yeah, I mean, Adam is sorry Jesse might be sorry I am with you as I always have been So it's okay Sarah thank you so much for coming in Or coming on

And giving us the time of day and a second chance We appreciate it Thank you Alright we'll talk to you soon Bye Temple23 You know Jesse took the Stephen A. Smith approach there Stephen A. Smith

Jesse took the Jesse approach Which is how not to apologize or admit wrongdoing 101. Ever. Admit wrongdoing. I just had some questions. I thought she could answer them. She didn't. Adam, so you ask a question. I just capitulated. Adam goes

I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I have to apologize. And you're like, that apology's great. Next question. I needed some info and I found it out. This is great. So we're going. We have to. We are 100%. It's in LimbVidget.

We're absolutely going. Absolutely. Do we have a What's Up in Limbitch this week, or should we just leave it at that? We can leave it. Okay, we'll leave it at that. Someone open this stupid silver bar. In the words of Adam Wilde, of course.

Let's do the press conference right now. Okay. The Presser SDP. The Steve Dangle Press Conference. But Jesse, okay, to start the press conference, I know Jesse has been waiting to hold on. He's been holding on to a gem for us. Yes.

Because someone on Reddit, believe it or not, surprising though it may seem, has an issue with me. What? It was just one, as being the most likable one on this show, I mean, I'm the one that normally gets heaped with so much praise. Oh my god, the support is just mind-boggling. However, somebody took issue with something that I said. What? Boy, I'm getting used to this, eh? I just have to eat a lot of crow all the time. but at least I'll apologize

I'll give myself a pat on the back for apologizing which is what you should do in the first place anyway Jesse go ahead there was just one comment

on the thread I'm sorry there was one comment on the thread of our last episode the one with Christina Rutherford okay someone wrote

it has three upvotes it says oh Adam not every country has a prime minister as their leader lol and i would like you to rebuttal well i for one would like to thank that uh redditor because i

did you know that i did not know that well i rely on you for most information being half canadian half american i am aware of that um there is a president in the united states and adam is heavily invested in uh the race between trump and hillary for prime minister of the united states My family is I feel for them Yes We all should be by the way Because they're bigger than us

Do you remember when you said that? I don't Do you remember when I said that? I have no idea I love that Jesse brings up the question He's like yeah But I'm not going to go back And search for it

That was the whole episode for that You know I am aware of that I am aware And I'm sorry No I'm not I'm not sorry They don't own a sober bar

You don't have to apologize to them I'm not sorry about that Because you probably know That I know that and you probably could have deduced that I know that and you probably could have just left me off the hook for that one because it's probably just a small mistake

oh my god Adam you're doing what we talked about earlier you're responding to something that didn't need responding to here's my favorite saying that I can never adhere to you don't have to attend every argument you're invited to you don't have to go to every fight and you poked your head in anyway

you had to just sample the free sandwiches I love sandwiches maybe the free crow wow I'm eating it sorry I'm joking first question which olympic sport

would you do best for each of us the 100 meter dash because it was the one track event I was good at in school just why are you

looking at me I had you know how much I had to deal with that being a white guy good at the 100 meter dash in Scarborough

well I mean are you though the aerodynamic I was sick where are you gonna oh my god we would have the track made at Pope

if you're from the neighborhood Pope and it would be Steve went to Catholic school as you can deduce probably oh no oh yeah

my elementary school was Pope I mean sorry it was Catholic Pope was the Catholic high school so yeah we did it there I'll get it

but it was 16 people and I'm standing there like hey guys you know the one freaking white kid and everyone bet against me and my buddy's

older brother who went to Pope made money on me because he knew how fast I was. What position did you come in? Divisional, I came second and then at regional, I just

missed the cutoff for city but I beat the kid that beat me at divisional. And you know it was the greatest athletic achievement of my life because I remember that shit. I ran 12. 12 seconds. You know that running music that they always play when someone's

That's what I want to be playing as Steve tells this story. I'm sorry, I don't know what it's called. I'm sure you'll tell me on Reddit, though. Jesse, I'm surprised that you're surprised. I'm offended that you're surprised. The aerodynamic athletic specimen that is Steve Daniels.

I look at Steve and I say, that's a fast sprinter. That's a sprinter. That guy can sprint. Wow. What do you think I'm good at, then? Go ahead and say nothing. Go ahead and say nothing.

I thought you were going to pick something like shot put. I thought something like that, too. Javelin. How do you get good at javelin? Your school has to have them. Obviously, you're in the Roman legions. Yeah. I mean, that's obviously fencing.

Because you know what you should definitely let high school kids do? Throw frigging javelins. Yeah. You know what you could do? You could be the equestrian person. You could ride a horse. I don't know if I've ever rode a horse. I've rode a camel.

That's fun. You worked at the zoo, though. I rode an elephant. You rode an elephant? That's cool. At the Bowmanville Zoo. Boo, hiss, boo. Like skeet shooting.

They're closing down. Can you shoot a gun? I have never shot a gun. I'm not even good at laser tech. But I can run. I can run away from the laser fire. He's fast. I was fast.

I screwed up my back, and I'm not as fast. Excuses. We should race. Shit, I don't even know how fast I could go now. I would love to see. I'll try it. I raced, Jesse. There's a movie theater downtown.

Oh, I remember that. There's a movie theater downtown, and it has these stairs. The Scotiabank Theater at John and King and John there. Or is it Adelaide and John? Richmond. Richmond and John. Wait, you raced Jesse up the stairs? Yeah, the stairs, which are like three stories.

Jesse takes four stairs at a time. We tied. We did tie. On the stair. Tied. Jesse, we went to Pursuit. It's like a, what would you call it? A free run place?

like a parkour kind of place and there was this like half pipe that I ran up and I was so proud that I did it and Jesse basically

just touched the top but that's a little different I have a slight height advantage that is a little different slight height advantage Olympic sport how tall are you again?

6'4 6'4 you are yeah you're about half a foot taller I'm going to Steve Dangle this one okay

and I am going to say something that you would probably not expect as well I would say gymnastics uh is yeah i was always really good at long jump that was my thing i was a good jumper uh adam i believe that i was a good high jumper too um and i sucked at high jump so much yeah the the only thing is i just i've never been very tall and i've never been athletically gifted if i

were to pick something i was strong at it was jumping um but i i wouldn't say i was even the best in my elementary school so um my best i i think i'd be a really really good um olympic spectator i think that's my that's my sport jesse by the way i'm not gonna win the hundred meter dash oh you weren't saying you're gonna beat usain bolt no i'll definitely i'll beat like justin gallen the fact that you know another sprinter is i know like that's great i know so many no i'm impressed before usain bolt i believe donovan bailey's world record was the last clean won. Because Maurice Green broke it a couple times, but he tested positive.

And you know that Ben Johnson's race in 1988 where Ben Johnson, Canadian, won it. 9-7-9. Stripped of his gold medal. You know that it's now been proven that every single person in that race was doping on something. So he won. He did, but they won't give it back to him.

And they won't take it away from anybody else in that race. Now, okay, if you test positive like a month later, right? and they strip you of your gold medal but you have it do they show up

to your house? I wouldn't give it back. Unless you're from Russia because Russia has nudes of everybody in the IOC which is how the Russian Federation

are even in the Olympics right now. Wasn't there a story of like Vladimir Putin saw someone had like a Super Bowl ring or something and he's like

can I try that on? And he just tried it on and just kind of walked away. Is that a true story? I don't know. Someone will find it and send it to us. It's like that episode of The Simpsons where they went down to Cuba and then they showed him the $1,000 bill to Castro.

And then he's like, ooh, can I hold that? And he's like, you wouldn't let Castro hold your $1,000 bill? And he holds it and the camera turns to me and he's like, what bill? What bill? He just has the $1,000 bill now. Jesse, what's your sport? Either volleyball, indoor volleyball, because I'm pretty good at volleyball. Volleyball is sick.

or cross country like the long running I was not good at that kind of running at the men's Canada vs United States volleyball game the other day the NBC commenter kept commentator kept calling Canada the US's

little brother and then Canada beat the US 3-0 we're more like Great Britain's children both of us why can't we just be independently awesome. How about that?

I'm just saying. How about the victors over the English? More like we're Great Britain's brother. But what does Colby Rasmus' dad have to say?

Does Colby Rasmus' dad have things to say? Oh, we won't even get to it. Okay. Have you guys seen the ratings for the Olympics? They're good, right?

They are not good. Oh, okay. In Canada or in the States? In the States. I thought they were great. Oh, okay. So, the opening ceremony did a 17.2.

You know, I take that back. Canada is the United States' little brother. Why? Because the United States was founded first. England founded both countries. They did. And the United States broke off. But was Canada raised by its grandparents?

I'm sorry. That's a good point. I'm sorry. The NBC ratings are down. NBC ratings were 17.2. In Sydney, they had an 18.5. In London, they had a 23. You know what's changed?

It's the way you watch. No, no, no. London. Like just the city? Yeah, London. Because that's where the last Olympics were. The city's host. Oh, I'm an idiot.

I thought you were... Oh, yeah. I'm an idiot. I thought you were talking about the ratings in those places for the opening show. No, the Australians are coming on. Go, go, go.

I was like, oh, wow. Good for England. So they went from a 23 to a 17. I would account for that by saying that we can watch anything online and all their live streaming stuff doesn't count towards those numbers. And it,

and they may not be making up their, um, uh, the revenue on that. Uh, but as I've said many, many times, we have to change the way things are rated.

Uh, we have to wait, change the way things are measured and we have to do, because right now it's only the television that the rating, well, that's not fair. NBC has a bunch of stuff online. Uh,

there's people watching stuff on Periscope. There's people watching Canadian feeds. Isn't it silly that I, as a YouTuber, have better knowledge of the people who watch my videos than any TV station in this country or in the world? Yeah. Isn't that just ridiculous? Yeah. It's stupid. It is stupid.

Why do we do it that way? Because we enjoy making things as difficult as humanly possible. And so, yeah, I mean, I think NBC, I think people are still watching. And I think that's not an accurate reflection of what's going on. That's all. I think so, too. Because my Twitter was just full of people talking about it. Absolutely.

The best part about the Olympics The Olympics are awesome The best part is You can have it on all the time And cheer for someone You've never heard of But because they're wearing Your country colors

You're like Oh my god This is so exciting Yeah So I asked someone this Last night If Like okay

I saw Canada vs. Italy Men's beach volleyball And I just saw Some Italian Spectators In the crowd Going nuts

Yeah Italy volleyball Like just going nuts so when you come from a country that is not the host right so you're from Italy

and you go to Brazil and you're not a family member like what's the story there like do you just get tickets to a bunch of random things there are people that do that yeah

absolutely and you just fucking cheer for Italy as hard as you can the Aussies are famous for that well cause the every Australian

has itchy feet yes true they can't sit still My dad went to the Athens games in 2004, uh, for work. And he said that the, he said the Australians were by far the best people at the, at the, at the entire thing. He said, because he said like, you go to a rowing event and so they would, they would

start to cheer based on people's row, like strokes and that sort of thing. And, and like, they had like specific cheers for each sport. You imagine having a cheer for rowing, the Aussies have it. And, and it's just like, they're just so much fun. Right. and that's Aussies do have itchy feet let's look for adventure

yeah exactly every situation I think there are people that do that I think that would be I would love to do that it's just very very expensive also

there's something I think Rio is probably quite safe right now but there is something that's a little bit no you don't think so? not the videos I've seen there is something

a little bit freaky about from the reports we've read and I'm sure some of that is overblown some of it's true I don't know for sure but I have to say

there's just something that makes me a little bit uncomfortable about what's going on there you know what Adam at least it's safer than Vancouver was

who said that some schmuck from Pittsburgh um not named Mark Madden no and so

because it's not Mark Madden let me ask you this Pittsburgh who in your city is any good at

talking about sports there's lots of people no but like out of the big people the big names they all seem like shit this guy was a big name

uh I think his name is Dan Kovacevic or something like that. We should ask Mr. Darnay. Oh, yeah, we should. Ashley Chase? No, she's in the business. I don't know. It would be interesting to know.

Because it seems like anybody who's got a bad opinion that they'll yell about gets a following. As if Vancouver was the most... He said it was the most dangerous of the five he's covered. So he's just lying. Yeah. He's just being a schmuck. So he's an idiot. He's just being a shithead.

Hey, you know what you're doing? You're poking your head into something that you could have just, you just leave it. I wanted to, yeah, exactly. I wanted to be like, can someone follow this guy? Can someone follow him and give him attention so he shuts the fuck up? Fair. Fair. Yeah, fair.

What is the easiest thing to say here? Like, that is one level removed from the Spurs could have beat this Cleveland Cavaliers team. Skip Bayless's Sistine Chapel of tweets. Is that the best Skip Bayless tweet of all time? Probably. Probably. How do you beat that? Or Tim Tebow is an elite quarterback.

Yeah. Was that a Skip Bayless tweet? I'm pretty sure that's a Skip Bayless tweet as well. There's a Mount Rushmore of Skip Bayless tweets. It's Kat. Don't even get me started. Anyway, Jesse, last question or next question? We're out of questions.

Look at this shit. Whitewater kayaking? Everybody listening, look at this shit. But look at that shit. And everybody watching who can't see the television screen. Look at that. It is pretty cool. Can somebody describe what we're watching, please?

Whitewater kayaking. It looks like whitewater kayaking indoors or something. But they've got to hook around things. It's crazy. That looks like the hardest thing. The thing about the Summer Olympics, and a big chunk of the Winter Olympics, is they're just full of sports

that I don't know how you get good at them. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, like who... Like javelin, like this. I mean, it's a weird thing. How do you get into some of these sports? and there's people who are like 16

so they're young right I know a lot of like the horse riders and some of the skeet shooters they're the children of some very

wealthy people I don't think horse riding skeet shooters would come from a not well to do family are you saying

there's no like equestrian cool runnings movie coming some country with no horses they come and they win

it's very wealthy children who have a lot of free time and can afford these things which by the way is how the Olympics were formed. That was the whole idea.

The reason that the NHL took so long to be a part of the Olympics is because the athletes got paid and you couldn't be in the Olympics if you got paid. The idea is it's amateur sport. You couldn't get paid to do it. So the guy that reformed the Olympics

in the late 1800s was, I believe, a British or American elitist and only wanted rich people's kids, the ones who could afford it, to be in it. And it was supposed to be an elitist thing. It was supposed to be

that only the elites could do this. Um, and that's why like when someone like Jesse Owens came along in the thirties, it was like, Oh my God, a poor child is in the Olympics. How have you seen wrong? Have you seen, um, the timeline, the history of the a hundred meter dash record? no no it's the guy there's some guy said it in like 1913 and it was like 11.2 seconds for the 100 meter dash which you wouldn't even qualify for like the final heat in like the canadian championships with that time you might not even get invited to the event if you run anything above 11 and then jesse owens comes along and i think it was 10.2 wow just stomps on it stomps on it and something like 75 years passes and usain bolt now holds the record at 9.58 which is still less than a second faster yeah like by the way i was uh i was looking at this

i was watching this video about how scientists are baffled that bolt can run that fast because there is supposed to be a certain speed like a maximum speed that humans can run before their muscles just start

detaching from bone he hasn't reached it yet it's something ridiculous like eight I'm pretty sure the shame is like is he ever going to? probably not right?

not eight something no even if he wins gold is he not almost on the downside of his career now too? he's gotta be yeah for a sprinter

100% he's gotta be like Phelps is too Phelps probably he retired and he came back and he's still winning gold so

they actually did they went into the science and I don't know much about it but they obviously it has science next to it of course I don't know much about it but apparently Michael

the reason that Michael Phelps is so good A. physically he's meant to be more than most humans in the water because most Olympic swimmers are shaped like fish

yeah he apparently has the best you know that when they hit the wall and they flip oh yeah it's his flip the flip and the push that really

sets him apart the turn yeah the turn the turn yeah apparently his is so perfect that's what gives him the edge interesting

I thought that was really cool sports science so Steve you're heading to Scotland I am next week we will run a best of the Steve Dangle podcast yeah? yeah that was the plan

no we were talking about it from the radio portion because some of our best bits are online only yeah I don't think we have anything for radio We can't go on the radio with fucking Zubat. Which, by the way, Pokemon Go needs to chill on the fucking update when a level fucking CP69 Pidgey is running away from me after I throw three Pokeballs at him.

I have to send you a hot take I saw the other day that ruled Pokemon Go a failure. Who? No, where? Find it now. We're here. No one read it because they're on their phone playing Pokemon Go. I want to hear this hot take Pokemon Go

is a bad game yeah also the Vancouver Olympics were unsafe and the Spurs would have beaten the Cavs you gotta give me

a second to find like a good point I can summarize because it's a long article read the whole thing hold on someone wrote an

article about this yeah it's a long article about why it's not a good game no they didn't they wrote a think piece

by the way did you read that while Jesse's looking that up Facebook's getting rid of all the clickbait headline stuff

so if you have a clickbait headline like you won't believe number 7 all that stuff, they will bury it and it will not come up I was number 2 in a Buzzfeed listicle yesterday Katie Ledecky tweets the American

Olympic swimmer who did that Beyonce wag of the finger I believe that was Katie Ledecky as well she beat her own world record yeah she's incredible yeah I said breaking

Katie Ledecky test positive for gills hilarious that's such a oh BuzzFeed would have eaten that up

I was number two damn get a lot of retweets for that one if I run through a couple

points from this article will you guys kind of refute them alright so what about the three step bug which made

locating monsters impossible third party services that alleviated that issue were shut down by the game's creator which is true

because fuck anyone and try not to wander around aimlessly. Well, here's the thing. Today, they came out with a new update, and it will roll out in many different countries, but I know it's in the States right now, where you can actually, it will tell you, it will show you a picture of what your Pokemon is near.

So if you're searching for an Eevee, and it's a block away, it'll now show you that that Eevee is next to the McDonald's a block away, which is cool. Doesn't that take away some of the fun? Well, not all of us have the time. Like, I like it, because I don't have that much time

to kind of walk around and grab this stuff. So I was using those three third-party apps. I understand them wanting to shut it down because it was holding down the servers. It kept making, because those third-parties would attach onto the server from the way I understand it. This is very, very basic. And it would bring the server down.

And you'd see a lot of crashing in the game because there were so many of them. You know what's going to be great? When school starts back up, and at some point in September, like 16 students in the same class at the same time, can I go to the bathroom? Do you actually have to go to the bathroom?

No, a Lapras friggin' appeared, and I need to catch it. All right, so playing Pokemon Go gives the impression that you, the player, have some level of control and self-determination over your team of cockfighting anime monsters. You don't. The game is a sprinkle of dumb luck with a heart-stopping dose of relentless grind, and the latter only gets worse the longer you play.

Okay, but enough about this article about poker. What about Pokemon Go? enough about this article about all sports ever or any game ever you can't catch them all because many of the monsters are either unavailable or region specific

you can't become a gym leader for any meaningful length of time the battle mechanics are laggy and lopsided the same five monsters seem to dominate every gym only to be replaced within minutes by a different team's identical monsters the person who wrote this

is just not good at the game so what's the end goal to slowly and painfully shamble towards the next level why does there have to be an end goal

I think we will find out I think the whole point of the game is we know there's more updates coming so this is just the first star this is beta

it's getting people outside but everyone I've met in this fashion I could have happily never spoken to oh this is just a prick that's your problem that's just a prick

that's not our problem and that's not their problem. Pokemon is not a defining part of my personality. I have enough friends. I have enough friends. The only thing that was ever fun about Pokemon Go

was figuring out just what we were supposed to be doing. Now we know the answer. Wander, pray, get our asses kicked by cheaters. I'm deleting my account

and so should you. How old is this person? He's a writer? If the answer is above eight. How do you write that? How do you write that and, like, go, I did a good job today. You got paid to shit on Pokemon. Like, really, like, I would love to just give that guy a joint.

Yeah. And just be like, think about what you just did. Yeah, man. I think he's happy. You're right, I was pretty lame to those people. Yeah, you were. I think he's happy. You think?

Yeah. Anyone who says, I have enough friends, has exactly four friends. Yeah. By the way Have you noticed that? Anyone who says I have enough friends Is not someone you would want to be friends with It's like anybody's house with a no trespassing sign

It's always the house you'd never want to go to Yeah, no trespassing Thank you, house that hasn't had their lawn mowed since 1997 Yeah, thanks for having this house I will keep that in mind I will keep that in mind Dog on premise, okay Thank you, house trying to do an impression of the house from Sandlot

Yeah, right Yeah, I absolutely won't come to the door I think this person A. was told by an editor tell us why you don't like Pokemon Go because we need an angle on that because everybody likes it because people will talk about it

talk about why the Vancouver Olympics suck the other thing I would say is that to Steve's point I think he sorry I gotta cut you off there's a Japanese kayaker getting ready to go in the whitewater kayaking and there are legions of Japanese fans

like fuck yeah white water kayaker I love that I'd go fuck yeah whatever sport this is oh of course I don't even know how they score this thing

but I'm into it sorry but you know I would say that he seems like a person who is an objectionable person to be around you might disagree

there's certain friends that you have that you might disagree with their opinions on things but you'd still you still want to go for a beer with them

because they're a good time and they're a good person right I have the perfect thing when you're done oh no oh well then I'm just

going to shut up Do you know what this guy's Twitter handle is? Oh! Steve underscore Dangle. It's at Brian Disagrees. Okay, well there you... I believe I just nailed it. How thick is his neck here?

I think you nailed it. It's not a picture of himself. No. Of course it's not. Why would he show his actual face? Brian Disagrees. Fuck you. Anyways.

Imagine your Twitter handle was Steve hates on things You just went out and tweeted a bunch of hate all the time Would you be happy with your life? He has a tweet that begins Are you ready for this? I always love when people tweet out articles And the first two words are in which

I don't understand You know you're an asshole In which you are an asshole In which Why do some people get off on the displeasure they bring others? Rightly or wrongly Hey, if you're listening to this podcast I want you to get off this fad

and I've done it in the past and I will never do it again Don't post a screenshot of someone who has blocked you You shouldn't be proud that someone found you so friggin' awful that they blocked you out of their timeline So insufferable

Well, maybe we should say the same about Sarah Sarah, who owns the Sober Bar Because, I mean, we did go in on Sarah's Sober Bar, right? No, she didn't block us No, I wasn't talking about that specifically, but I'm like... Adam, I have no guilt in this. You can go back and listen to this segment.

Oh, okay, fine. There's literally me standing there after just exiting a phone booth with my cape blowing in the wind and then there is dastardly Adam who tied Jesse to

the train tracks. What we're getting at here is Pokemon Go rules, Steve is going on vacation next week, and it is time to wrap it up. So thank you so much for listening to the Steve Dangle Podcast. I might not come back. You're going to catch Scottish Pokemon. Well, yeah, I'm going to catch Scottish Pokemon, but also a few days into the trip,

I'm going to a game between Aberdeen and Hearts. And I didn't know this. I thought my stepfather was kidding. He was not. Our seats are right by the fence that separates the two fan bases. Oh, no, he's not kidding. That's cool. Well, it's nice knowing you, pal.

That'll be fun. at least when they attack you won't know what's coming because you won't be able to understand it exactly

I don't know if that's happy phlegm or angry phlegm I'm not sure so we'll be back in a couple weeks thank you so much for listening

Steve have a great time on your vacation thanks pal and we will be back follow the guys on twitter at steve underscore dangle

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