The Steve Dangle Podcast - The Steve Dangle Podcast - Dec 1, 2016 - Nair

Episode Date: December 1, 2016

On this episode, the guys try to tinker with the Leafs after the fall against the Flames, talk about Hamilton, rumours, get a present, and discuss Nair. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Panago Pizza presents S.C.P. The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde. Gentlemen, gentlemen. Adam? We watched Stinker last night. Holy smokes. I mean, listen. Hats off to the Flames and their fans. Great start. What are you talking about?

Oh, you're not a Montreal Impact fan? Oh, no, I'm not a Montreal Impact fan. I was watching the TFC. You know what, I'll be honest, I missed the first two goals because I was watching the TFC spank Montreal, even though it wasn't really spanking. The Leafs owe a national audience in Canada an apology. They absolutely 100% do.

Because that game started at 8.30, which means it started at 6.30 in Calgary, which means it started early. So already, Eastern bias, we are altering their usual schedule for us, the larger audience out East. Jesse, why are we doing that? Because we're the best. Also the biggest. Like, by far, stop complaining about it.

But anyway, so they've already altered their schedule because of that. Meanwhile, TFC is playing the biggest game in their franchise's history. even if you're not a big TFC or even soccer fan, you're tuning into that because it's the final minutes, it's overtime and it was phenomenal in a game that decides the final it was amazing

what was the final score, 5-2? 5-2, but it was only 7-5 on aggregate yeah, yeah, yeah which is aggregate, it's silly, but that's another conversation, it was kind of cool, I enjoyed it like, Montreal could have lost 5-3 and it would have been tied, really? yeah, yeah

we don't support aggregate in the NHL No, absolutely not. I think it's awful. I hate aggregate. Boo. Boo aggregate, I say. In Funstat, across all the four major pro sports, 54% of the time, the home team wins. It's consistent throughout all four sports.

Wow, really? Yeah, 54% of the time, the home team wins. So, fighting for home ice advantage, when you think about that, I mean, yes, that's sort of a big thing. But if you were to break that down over the course of one team, if it's 54% of the time, is home ice advantage or home field that important? I would say yes. A lot of teams miss the playoffs by one or two points. Yeah, okay, fair.

You will play at home pretty much in every sport, right? So you know who's stoked about this? Whoever the top team is in each World Series going forward. Yeah. Because they just took that out. And baseball is all percentage. Yes. So they altered their schedule so that the Leafs and Flames can play a little earlier.

There's this big playoff game going on So some fans are already going I can miss the opening few minutes of this game Which turned into two periods Yeah, bang, bang Two goals in the first 49 seconds And right away, everyone's going Well, not watching this

They change the channel to the soccer game They go back once the soccer game's done It's 3-0 Flames Well, I'm not going to watch this I'm going to go to bed The Leafs owe everybody an apology Leafs fans, Flames fans, TFC fans Babcock

Babcock I have to say and he took some ownership of it post game but like I love that Dougie Hamilton

was one of them what? the goal scorers no it was Freddie oh it was Freddie it was Freddie Hamilton yeah oh okay okay

I thought that was a mistake I'm like there's no way Freddie Hamilton scored it's gotta be Dougie it was Freddie it was Freddie oh my god okay

see this is that makes it worse doesn't it yeah that's how you can tell I was watching TFC it does make it worse the Leafs got scored on by a Hamilton

and it wasn't even the best one the Flames had wow also Hamilton ew was oh because of the city

yeah I was like oh wow I heard it's a critically acclaimed show that's all I know from that show I want to see

I don't know anything my favorite guy in American history was always Alexander Hamilton my favorite same I took American history

I don't know I have to know my culture oh okay very cool culture very cool you know last night

I think a lot was made of Chad Johnson and Stop 39 shots? I think a lot should be made of that. We talked about it in the last episode about Brian Elliott and his performance and how do you get out of it when Chad Johnson's hot. Well, and then you look at the Flames who need every point they can get.

How many wins does Chad Johnson have to string together for him to just be the starting goaltender? Like permanently. That's a good question. Remember there was that rumor of Brian Elliott getting an extension? Yeah. See, if he had gotten that extension, they would actually have to figure this out. Yes, they would.

They would actually have to leave him in and just go through the growing pains and let him figure it out. Now, it might just be they keep Chad Johnson and flip Elliott if they can. Well, and what got to me, I thought, was like, you know, Brian Elliott apparently, well, Doug McLean said it on the broadcast last night, and he said he's a good teammate, he's a good guy. But you've got to think, like, damn. Like, this is the time where Brian Elliott should be shining. This should be his team. That has to be, as a player, I don't know how you handle that mentally.

And I'm sure at this point in his career he knows how. But still, that has to eat at you. And I wonder if that isn't a self-perpetuating kind of thing where the next time you get in, you're like, I've got to be really great. I better be really great. When it rains, it pours. Yeah. Yeah, like, I don't think Matthews is going to go on a 13-game goal drought for a while.

because there were so many times forget the hitting the post we're talking about point blank chances and he's firing them wide because he just he's gripping the stick and then guy can't stop scoring except for when everyone stops scoring but um it's that sucks real bad for brian elliott and i don't know i don't know what happens to him now because the goalie market is so weird because of vegas well i think with the second that chad johnson cools off a little bit they'll give him a break and Brian Elliott goes in and hopefully he plays well yeah it is also December 1st yeah like we do got to remember that last year December 1st Montreal was the top team in the NHL if I am not mistaken I think you're right and then I think it was December 3rd

Carey Price got injured re-injured I think re-injured right and didn't play again like literally at this point it's all Pittsburgh and San Jose were either like on the bubble or out of the playoffs. We were saying Jim Rutherford might lose his job. It was a podcast around a year ago at this point. Oh, yeah. Oh, 100%. I remember that. I remember that. I was like, oh, you're screwed. You've got so many contracts you get. I saw.

Just do a head coach change and you're good. Not to rip on Edmonton, because, God, the Leafs played such a good game against the Oilers, I thought. But I saw one Oilers writer, like, two weeks ago, go, you know what? The Oilers are in a playoff spot in mid-November, and history shows

that if you're in a playoff spot now, you usually end up in one and i'm like did you watch the nhl last year yeah did you see who was in the stanley might be playing the percentages which in which case he's right but look at the ducks the sharks and montreal last year to all teams that flipped yeah it started slow san jose started slow montreal started hot and opposite happened and you can say well with montreal it can be explained by this in pittsburgh it can be explained by this well those things happen every single year every single year

don't count your chickens before they hatch do you guys want some of the standings from December 1st 2015 yes we do do you have

the final standings I can bring those up as well yeah I would like the side by side just cause like I don't remember you want them

back to back back to back well cause I don't remember everything that happened I'm not smart while Jesse's pulling that up

I think that we need to talk a little bit about the the Dougie Hamilton stuff so a few passionate Calgary Flames fans reached out

and said they're not trading him and then brian burke who is probably the most passionate calgary fan now is saying uh they're not trading them and it's not a media cooked up story it's actually a general manager when he said uh to tim and sid and this is interesting he said a general manager called and asked about dougie hamilton's availability and what he said to a couple other general managers was i have an offer in on dougie hamilton now the flames outright rejected it but it doesn't mean that he didn't have an offer in, which then, you know,

now four teams know about this phone call and two teams have a differing view on what actually happened. Actually, three of the four teams have a differing view, sprung a leak, and to the media it went. This is all very interesting.

It's very... I like the game of broken telephone that's been played. You know what? We'll get to that. I want to hear the standings because I have a theory on the broken telephone thing.

Okay. I'm excited to hear it. All right, the top five from December 1st, 2015 was Montreal, Dallas, Washington, New York, St. Louis. The Rangers, was that a wildcard spot they ended up in? At the end of last year? Yeah. They ended up ninth overall.

Oh, okay. They were in one of the Atlantic spots. Yes, they ended up in one of the wildcards. Oh, it was a wildcard, okay. Oh, no, third in the division. Can we do conference? No, yeah, that's a spot. That's a division spot.

Can we do a conference by conference here? Sure. Instead of overall? Conference was Montreal, Washington, New York, Pittsburgh, New York, Boston, Ottawa, Detroit. So Pittsburgh was fourth? Yeah, in the conference. At the end of the season? At the December 1st.

Really? Get out! Yeah. Was their losing streak through December and January then? I think so, yeah. They had a real bad December. Wow, okay. If I remember correct.

It's just the wheels fell off. And I know they tried, remember trying, they tried Kessel with Crosby, that didn't work. They tried Kessel with Malkin, that didn't work. Also, Jesse, like, what's the gap between, like, 5th and 10th? In the conference? Yeah. Well, Montreal had 19 points, and Pittsburgh had 14. Okay.

But, like, who's underneath Pittsburgh? Underneath Pittsburgh, the Islanders at, oh, those are wins, my bad, 30 points. I was about to say that, it seems like not a lot of points. 30 points for the Islanders 30 points for Pittsburgh And then Montreal Is at the top of 41 So it's tight

Yeah It's tight So a losing streak In December Losing streak in November You know Those are devastating To the standings

At the time But you can recover from them The Leafs sat At 21 points Third last in the division In the conference Sorry But again

How many back Of like Playoff contention Because they had a terrible October And had a pretty good November They had a great November Again For the second straight year

they've had a great November. Yeah, Detroit sitting in the last playoff spot with 30 points from the Wilds. They were kind of far back. But they did play catch-up until they very, very did not play catch-up. Stripped it off. So,

with all that in mind, Calgary played the game that Calgary should be capable of playing. We saw what the Calgary Flames should be night after night, I think last night. Amazing what the Flames can do when they have a little bit of goaltending, which is what I said all summer long all summer long and i thought brian elliott was the answer and i was half right

i still i wonder i still wonder if they've set their expectations too high for the team or for chad johnson for the team i wonder and i stick by that not because i have a hate on for the flames i think they've got a really strong defensive core um i wonder and i I don't know the answer to this. But I wonder if right now, in the stage of development that they're at, a lot of their big players, Dougie Hamilton, Sean Monaghan, Goudreau's out. I wonder if those guys, it's like, hey, let's not saddle them with expectations of the second round here.

Let's just focus on taking a step forward. And Monaghan and Goudreau, yes, they just signed big contracts, big boy contracts. But they are paid on what they've already done. They're not paid based on what they will do per se. No, no. Goudreau and Monaghan? Well, I know they're long-term deals. They're paid on what they're going to do.

But they're expecting them to basically perform just a little above what they did the last couple years, right? If I'm Calgary, I'm expecting the playoffs. Yes. Because you are young, improving, and your goaltending was shocking, and you addressed that, you thought. And it looked real shaky off the start, and now it's improved again. but for every young guy that you mentioned i don't know how old tj brody is but he's like a little older than he's got to be 27 28 giordano's over 30 there's geo they gave a boatload of money to troy brower what was another guy or was it troy brower yeah he's making 4.5 there you go and then

there's derrick england derrick england yeah dennis weidman slightly different situation dennis weidman they got some older guys but the guys that you are relying on to carry most of the play are are i would say well you got giordano i think it's a balanced attack i think it's you definitely have your upper guys but it's a balanced attack johnny gaudreau has a potential to be a superstar yeah uh monahan has the potential to be a star i think i think i think it's gaudreau as your top top top guy and then it's relatively balanced after that i just don't think they should be upset especially with gaudreau's injury now too and him starting late and all that stuff I don't think they should be upset with

They should be upset if they don't make the playoffs But I think anything after that Realistically I think that they are capable of much more than that But I don't think setting the expectation And going well we're abject failures If we don't make it into the second round That's my point I don't think that that's fair

I don't think that's fair to the team I don't think teams really care How you get in Just get in And if their expectations are playoffs I don't think they care if they win the Pacific or get the second wild card. Right.

Just get in. Get in. Just get in. And Calgary is such a fun city. I hope it happens for them. When the Red Mile lights up, man. Oh, so cool. Alberta deserves consistent playoff hockey.

Especially against each other. I really hope the Flames and Oilers play each other. How great would that be? And with the new division realignment, if they get good, it's likely Leafs and Habs. Oh, that would be amazing. That almost happened. That almost happened a couple years ago

Lightning and Panthers Until all the rivals It's basically just been Who's really gotten the benefit Of this The Californian teams I like the Pittsburgh-Philly series A few years ago was great

I don't know if that was before or after The division realignment though But damn that was a good series It was the best I remember there was one game in particular I made So I was working at CBC at the time and I was doing the highlights so I would just write

the highlights and compile the clips with one of those, I'm doing my finger motion, it's like a rotary phone anyway and I was working with an editor and the editor was getting so pissed at me because he just wanted to go home like we had the potential to go home early

that afternoon but Was this at the CBC you said? Yeah this was at the CBC. Oh yeah, oh I love that union, gotta love that union but he was getting pissed but I'm like dude He's like, you can take this out. This doesn't need to go on the highlight pack. This doesn't need to go.

And in this guy's defense, highlight packs are usually like 90 seconds. But I'm like, man, the game is 8-4. Take out that Wayne Simmons goal. It was on a breakaway. Take out this fight. You don't need that fight. It's Sidney Crosby versus Claude Giroux. Take out this fight.

It's Malkin. Take out this fight. It's Letang. It's just everything happened that game. And I remember it ended up being over three minutes long. He was pissed. He was the best, but he came in the next shift. He's like, you're right, that was a crazy game.

Now, I don't have any of the stats in front of me, but if you were to have Edmonton with McDavid on the ice versus Edmonton without McDavid on the ice is, from everything I've read, two different teams. Did you read the Dmitry Filipovich tweet that I saw? I did not read that. No, what did he say? He said the Oilers with McDavidite. McDavidite.

Yeah, the Oilers with McDavid on the ice are like the late 2000s Red Wings. and the Oilers without McDavid on the ice are like the Oilers which is scary oh yeah it's bad the chasm of difference is bad

so they're better they are better oh yeah because they have McDavid can't take him away he's an Oiler so you go oh well without McDavid that's like oh well

without Price well the Habs have Price and the Oilers have McDavid those are players they have so who wins who wins the Calgary Edmonton series This year Starts now

Ooh Goudreau's in though Everybody's healthy Yeah everybody's healthy Ooh Ooh Calgary Yeah cause you can argue

Calgary's got better defense And a far more balanced attack And the playoff experience too I think that counts They're a little bit more experienced Been there Grizzled vet Johnny Goudreau Been there

Or Gio though Absolutely No I'm just No no I know what you're saying I know what you're saying He's like 21 I know what you're saying I might give the

goaltending advantage to Edmonton cause Chad Johnson is a bit that's a pleasant surprise Cam Talbot is consistent

you have more faith to do better cause over a long period of time are we expecting Chad Johnson to keep this up not his

almost Vezna like pace no but he maybe be the starter win more games than he loses and Brian Elliott

is not a bad backup he's been in the playoffs always i would suspect chad johnson will go down a bit and brian elliott will go up significantly like history suggests chad johnson's not quite this good but it also suggests brian elliott is nowhere near this bad now so do you think though i mean because one of the complaints i i heard from calgary fans and and you know obviously not following the team as deeply as i follow the leafs one of the complaints they have is they they see they're better players they're better younger players, being

Randy Carlisle, basically. Put on the fourth line playing five minutes a night. Not used properly. And I wonder if Calgary would get outcoached. I don't know how good... I mean, there's 20 games into this guy's career. It's not really fair. McClellan's got quite a bit, yeah. Quite a bit of coaching experience. That's interesting. That's an interesting thought.

I hadn't thought of that. I hadn't thought of that. I hope it happens. Fingers crossed. It'd be just such a fantastic series. You know how we're all just gaga over Kadri and his start and oh he's just we're talking about him like he's Patrice Bergeron

Pavel Datsuk I think Oilers win that series we start talking about Nugent Hopkins the same way because they're going to give him like big boy assignments your job is to go after Goudreau your job is to go after Monaghan your job is this guy that guy that guy

he'll be their shutdown guy. What would Lucic's job be? Brrrr Just going through people? Yeah oh god You know, playing him with the Oilers made me realize how glad I am he's not in the division anymore. Not because I was ever afraid of him as a player. I mean, there was a time where Milan Lucic really instilled fear.

Now it's, oh, this again. This again. He's always going to, it's always the macho man thing, man. It's always the bumping someone after the whistle. it's always that and then it seeped through the Oilers snowing the goalie the face washes and I'm like this is a knockoff of the old Bruins you said that last show too like it's yeah and then someone tweeted me like oh my god is this what Pete Chiarelli is is creating in Edmonton and I went oh I forgot he was the GM like I didn't even make that connection when I said it and I'm like

Oh, maybe he is just building a cheap knockoff for the Bruins. I would imagine that's probably what they are after. Maybe. I mean, the Oilers don't have their Chara. But the Bruins didn't have McDavid, so... I don't know. I don't know. I think, look, Oilers fans were way too down on themselves after that game.

And I think Flames fans were way too down on themselves after the slow start. Both teams deserve to feel great. They should feel great. Despite varying results against the Toronto Maple Leafs. Has Jonas Enroth played his last game As a Toronto Maple Leaf I hope not I hope not

My LFR video Well I guess it'll be up By the time this podcast is up So Here are your options Leafs fans Cause everyone's like Oh bring on Romo Bring on Romo

Okay Let's say someone gets hurt Let's say Ben Smith Gets hurt Okay Just put Josh Levo in the lineup Or no, Ben Smith gets hurt, but he's not in the IR.

Let's put Josh Levo in the lineup. Well, Levo's hurt, supposedly, but let's pretend he's healthy. You can't just throw him in because of the Peter Holland situation. So the Leafs can't add to their current roster, right? Because even though Peter Holland is sitting at home. Yeah, the Leafs can't add Josh Levo, who's someone they already have, to their lineup, let alone someone new in Ramos. So if the Leafs trade Holland and Levo comes off IR,

they still need to make room for Romo. Well, what about Jeff Glass? He looked good in his one game with the Marlies. Same thing. Can't fit him. What about Garrett Sparks? He's suspended right now. What about Antoine Bebo?

AHL Goalie of the Month in October and ever since. Been brutal. Which is just so... Leafs fans, if you haven't been paying attention to him, welcome to Antoine Bebo. just this goalie is so frustrating because one week he's dominant he's the best goalie in the league and the next the next week you're like this guy's an ECHL backup is the roster problem solved when you take Enroth off but this is the thing though in order to add anybody people have

to go. And what on Roth goes? To where? Who needs a goalie? Free agency. You're not going to waive them. Free, what? You put them on unconditional waivers? Why not? If we don't need them, if we have Ramo. Now, when you put someone on unconditional waivers, you still, their cap hit still

counts, right? Yeah, I don't know. I assume there's a reason that most teams don't just do that all the time. There has to be. You can't just terminate a contract like it's the KHL. I bet, well, he bakes $750,000 So they could send him down and he'd have to clear waivers,

but they'd be able to bury the whole thing. These roster issues matter. So Elliott Friedman said on the broadcast last night, the Leafs are trying to trade Peter Holland, but the belief is they want to get rid of him for a pick. And the reason they would want to do that is because they don't want to take on another... Contract. Contract, another roster spot.

Not just a contract, a roster spot, like out of their 23. They're not just worried about the 50. they're worried about they're 23 so they got two numbers they're worried about now right I think the Leafs are at 48 contracts and they're filled up to the brim 23 roster spots right so I think lots of teams would take Peter Holland but they can't unless you take something back which the Leafs are not willing to do okay maybe there's a few teams who would like Jonas Enroth I don't know how many teams are able to like actually able to

like for a pick. Okay, we'll give you, we'll take Jonas Enroth, but you have to take this guy. No, you don't understand we can't do that. Right? So the Leafs are in this really tight bind. They're hell bent on making Frank Corrado a

Christmas ornament. Like, you can't, the reality is starting to become you can't carry eight defensemen especially if you're not going to use one that's the reality it's depressing it's depressing for them like i can't imagine what frank corrado is going through right now oh it's it's it's terrible yeah it's awful it's awful um i think i wonder if the leafs were counting on like an injury or two happening by now just because law of averages you're gonna get

one if they had an injury it would almost make life easier yeah they would almost yeah it did When Hummel was out, it was like, wow, this is a lot easier. Yeah, that temporarily solved a bunch of problems because he missed like six games. That's like two weeks. It temporarily solved a couple issues. And Levo was on that conditioning stint. It was great.

So I think despite their crappy effort against the Flames, which was really just a crappy 49 seconds followed by a pretty decent game, there's all this minutia. They got to do something with Peter Holland, hopefully get rid of him for a pick. you've got to decide whether or not you're going to stick with Enroth because Ramos is not a guaranteed solution

and neither is Jeff Glass and neither is Garrett Sparks and neither is Antoine Bico. And was, in your mind, watching him last night, he didn't seem like he was ready? The first goal was a mess, I thought. It was a defensive mess. My Kadri Friselki campaign took a hit

On that play The second one Just such a gross rebound And right after, like 20 seconds after Next shift And it was two different lines There were 10 different players on the ice For those goals

So it's just the team was not ready And Enroth is on the team And he didn't look ready Played a decent game after that I guess They're going to be bag skated Oh yeah They're skating to Vancouver right now

They're spending the next two days Skating to Vancouver And That's I say this in the video This is the most Highly anticipated game Of the Canucks season

Coming up This is probably The most highly anticipated Game of the Leafs season Coming up Might be the most Highly anticipated Hockey night in Canada

Matchup So far this season And who thought It would be Leafs Canucks Oh I know And you Better be ready You better be ready for it

The Leafs better play One of their best games Of the season Canucks too They better both bring it Yeah again I think it's the minutia You gotta

Somehow get rid of Holland For a pick If you're getting rid of Enroff It has to be for a pick Or something Even make it a conditional one A conditional six

Then the condition is Whether or not he resigns And then he doesn't resign Therefore You get nothing You lose Good day sir You can't have Frankie Corrado anymore.

I'm taking that toy away. You don't even play with it. And then something that could solve a little bit of issue is the Leafs can retain salary on two guys. You did Milan Mihalik wrong. The Leafs did Milan Mihalik wrong. They begged him to waive his no-trade clause so that they could take him from Ottawa.

That's the only way that trade happens. And he agrees to it, plays a few games at the end of last season, Plays a few games at the beginning of this season And they shove him in the American Hockey League They did Milan Mahalik wrong Retain salary He's in the American Hockey League anyway And ship him out of town

To anyone who will take him for whatever That relieves One roster spot Colin Greening was in the American Hockey League anyway Maybe you leave him there What about Brooks Leick? No one wants Brooks Leick Even if you retain half

They're both rough sells But I think I think the little tiny moves the Leafs can make everyone's thinking big Dougie Hamilton no no no no no they gotta take care of

their own house first so I think it's stupid little things Peter Holland Jonas Enroth Frankie Corrado and one or two of

Colin Greening Milan Mihalik Brooks-like it's so silly that that is what is affecting Matthews and Nylander and Kadri

and all that they've they've built they've a team that is very clever at maneuvering is backed into a hole a little bit they're kind of paying for their sins a little bit right i think they they took that on knowing that they would yeah exactly yes you nailed it adam because like mahalik was a necessary evil right you had to take that money you had to take that money you had to yeah you got rid of finuf you got a pick you got a prospect fine

Brooks-like you got Connor Carrick out of it he's in your lineup you got a pick out of it okay fine Colin Greening was another necessary evil

part of the Ottawa deal Peter Holland I still don't understand why you re-signed him if you knew you weren't going to play him Frankie Corrado

same thing I remember interviewing him on Breakfast Television last year and off the air here I said I interviewed Peter Holland this morning and the season was already over

and he was representing the Leafs And I think, Steve, your reaction was, well, that's the last time. You know, because we all, and that's not a swipe on Peter Holland. We just thought that both sides were done with each other, right? It had nothing to do with me thinking he was a bad player. He's not. He's not.

Some people say he is, but, like, I think he's an NHL player. It's just, it seemed very obvious that, like, I think his minutes went down. Then he was on the fourth line Then he was fourth line wing So he's not even playing his position anymore And then he was just not playing at all And that was another guy who started the season Was given a leash

The size of an elastic band And then just told you're gone You're gone, get lost It's all It's all very weird So they got a little bit of housekeeping to do You know Then you can focus on the Hamilton

Here's the thing. I think only one of Greening, Mahalik, and Lyke will go. Fine. There's one. We got one. Only, I think it will be Mahalik, and they will retain salary. But they're not going to be willing to retain salary on Brooks, Lyke, and Milan Mahalik unless it is the trade deadline.

Because they already have to retain on Phil Kessel. Your maximum retention is three. So as soon as, they don't want to hamstring. I don't think it's the Leafs. I think it's the other team. I'm sure the other team, yeah, for sure. But I mean, the Leafs could pay $4 million for those two to not play for them. Maybe a little bit more, because like is 4.5.

Mahalik's 4. They are UFAs at the end of the year. Yeah, so that's why I'm saying use those two retention spots, and then at the end of the season, you're back to two again. Right, but you want to have some retention spots, at least one open for trade deadline, I think. I don't think the Leafs are going to do what they did last deadline. What if someone comes along and says,

Roman Polak, but you've got to retain salary, and you can't. That's my point Matt Hunwick But you gotta retain salary And you can't Not that Matt Hunwick So Hunwick is unlikely

But Polak yeah You gotta have options Can you wait out Those three contracts Can you just wait You can You can But then

So I'm I'm trying to provide options Right You can wait out those contracts But that means Holland And or Enroth And or Corrado

Right So there's These little I don't think Corrado's going to see regular playing time until Roman Polak is traded. Get rid of him. You're telling me no one wants this young, right-handed defenseman? Oh, I think they do, and I think the Leafs know that. I think the Leafs want him.

You can't have him! You're not using him! Do you think that Lula Amarillo cares? He should! Hang on to that. There's no way he wants to be part of this organization, right? We have to go to break, but when we come back we're going to talk a little bit about the Ryan Burke

leaky rumor thing, which created the Dougie Hamilton to Toronto story, which, when you objectively look at things, it's sort of ridiculous, and we'll explain why when we come back on Sportsnet 590 The Fan. Alright, so we were quickly, just before the break, we were talking about the Oilers,

McDavid, and the fact that they are two different teams. They are the team with McDavid when he's on the ice, and the team when he is sitting on the bench grabbing some water. And Jesse did a great job finding this from Copper and Blue, from Sunil, I think? Sorry, I'm more of an Oilers Nation guy

myself. It's a chart of the Oilers with and without McDavid. It's something. Okay, so what do we know? Give me the highlights. Give me the highlights. Corsi, four percentage. With McDavid on the ice, 55.16.

Which is well above league average. Super good. The Oilers without him, 50.19. Still positive. Average. Still positive. But that 50% is about average, right? It's ever so slightly above.

Right. It is, yeah. So that's not bad. Scoring chances, four percentage. Without McDavid on the ice 45.7% Of their scoring 45.7% of the Oilers scoring chances

Come without McDavid on the ice 62.32% Come with McDavid on the ice And their goals for percentage Only 46.3% Of the Oilers goals are scored When McDavid is not on the ice Wow

64.71% So they're sort of the NHL's Eriotters A little bit Shut down McDavid And Connor Brown is whoever's on his line Yeah boy Like that's crazy

It is amazing that the Oilers really are McDavid is so Good But the Oilers aren't that much better No though but because he's so good You need like one or two more competent pieces

up front to just make that team monstrous yeah the more difficult that second or third line is to deal with McDavid's that much more deadly

jeez I would love to know what the home and away stats are like cause on the road you're able to zero in on McDavid a little bit more at home

you're just you're just screwed you're just screwed you have to deal with the McDavid show yeah man that is a good player

that is a good little player holy we were also talking about and Steve you have a theory about the Dougie Hamilton to Toronto rumor so actually there's a great

there's a great article that you should check out at sportsnet.ca and you know besides all the Flames fans passionately yelling at us going they would never trade him

Brian Burke went on Tim and Sid yesterday and he said it was so funny he said he said he skates like a deer he's 6'5

he's a good person I was like, I didn't know deer could skate. Actually, if you've ever seen deer on ice, not pleasant. No. But I'm pretty sure he meant he could skate well. It's a compliment. I think Burke is one of those guys who would just, like, if you were at the bar with him, he's the guy who, he's your friend, but you're almost afraid to talk because you know he's

going to give you crap if you mess up. It's like me at my in-laws dinner table. Scottish relatives, like, oh, I cut, there was a ham. They made a ham one Halloween, idiot. Thanksgiving. Aham. Yeah. They made a ham, and I cut it funny.

Like, I cut it on an angle, and it ended up, instead of being a slice of ham, it was like a doorstop. It was like a piece of cake of ham that I cut. That was over nine years ago. It is still talked about with regularity. And I didn't hear, I didn't, I heard about it the rest of the night. Hours and hours. I don't think he was trying to insult him I think he's just one of those guys

Oh no he wasn't trying to insult Dougie Hamilton at all He was trying to say what a great skater he was No for sure He skates like a deer Oh did he just use a bad analogy It was an Adam Wildism Oh no He talked about Dougie Hamilton's back shins

His hair pants By the way People were confused by what hair pants are Picture pants made of hair Now wear them It's not a common thing, though. Hair pants? Yeah.

Being hairy is pretty common. But it's not a common thing that comes up in everyday life. Oh, fair. Hair pants is, I'm pretty sure, a term I just came up with on my own. I think you did, yeah. I think it's a fairly common, I'm sure. But it was so good that I instantly knew what you're talking about. When Brian Burke says, skates like a deer,

we're unsure whether he means Bambi or a deer that's running away from you that's really fast. Okay, here, this is just for YouTube. So most people, picture yourself. Now imagine a pair of hair pants. I'm putting them on. Putting your pants on. All right, that's me.

That's me. That's what I look like. And now you know. Have you guys seen the stand-up pants challenge? Where you have to put your pants on, but you can't use your arms? Everything is a challenge now, and it's very annoying. I know. Yeah.

Have we reached peak challenge? I think we've reached peak challenge. Like, we're done with the challenge. Challenges are like the new Crying Jordan of memes. Yeah. Yeah. I think I've reached peak challenge when the backpack challenge came along. What was that?

You run through people throwing backpacks at you. Oh, my God. In high school? That's just high school. Yeah. Why can't it just be called Recess idiocy Like it's just

Yeah growing up Growing up Good for you Adam Good for you Anyway so Brian Burke's On Tim and Sid I want to set this up again Just because you know

For anybody that's just Tuning in Because I talked about Hairpants and the backpack job So Brian Burke is on Tim and Sid And he talks about How this Dougie Hamilton

Rumor started Now his theory is that It was not a media cooked story Although there was A couple people who were Really going after it And I was kind of like Where's your proof coming from

anyway um evidently what happened was a general manager called about dougie hamilton and said we will offer you this if you're interested in listening and at the same time had told two other people what we've got two other gms oh we got an offer in on dougie hamilton the flame said well we're not listening on dougie hamilton but then the general manager who initially made the offer isn't calling the other two back going oh they rejected our offer on dougie hamilton like he's not following up um now brian burke is is on tim and said and he's indignant indignant He's mad And he's wearing the tie

I don't know why he bothers with the tie at this point Just take the tie off You don't need to sling it around you It doesn't look good Ties aren't even in anymore It's like he's a wrestling character And this is his thing That's his Ric Flair robe

So he's gotta wear it It's kind of a crappy prop But I get it, it's signature It just looks so sloppy I can't wait until he's commissioner one day And he still just dresses that way Oh, me too Oh, yeah

I would say that to him here Although I'd be probably I'd pee a little Yeah, what's with your tie, man? What's with the tie, Bri? Yeah, he's pretty big I've stood next to him He's pretty huge

He would be If I could interview anybody in hockey It would be Brian Burke Yeah, he's one of those guys That's just like I've met people as tall As Eric Lindros I've met people

As heavy as Eric Lindros But there's something he's just big i don't know how to describe it you just you would just have to experience it for yourself people say the same thing about ovechkin there are lots of people who weigh what ovechkin weighs in this league there are also guys who are like 6'2 or 6'3 like he is but he's there's something about him he's just built like a jeep he's just enormous anyway um what's your theory well my theory on the dougie hamilton broken telephone stuff kind of comes actually from the peter holland news okay so we know about the peter holland stuff because his agent was speaking

to people his agents lou could not have been pumped about that no but lou did have to he did say something publicly because you kind of have to if the player's not traveling yeah you got to explain you can't just be like it's a secret it is lou it is you know what i said he can't he absolutely can he just chose not to right um it came from the agents i have a real hard time believing lou was one of the gms brian burke was referring to or even one of the leafs assistant gms i have a hard time believing that and i think the leafs are so air tight, that people are

just kind of manufacturing leaf connections to this. Oh, I don't think there's a leaf connection here. Because of hearsay. I think they're getting second-hand information and the only way to create a rumor with the leafs is to literally just create it yourself.

Because they're not creating their own anymore. No, they're not. They're not. So that's my little theory there. I think that's a fair thought. there are I also don't think it was the Leafs

that inquired about Dougie Hamilton look there's guys who used to have connections with the Leafs kick under the table wink wink nudge nudge

who might have connections to people in Toronto there's guys who super used to have connections to the Leafs who right now I'm not convinced

they do anymore you know what I mean so when they say things I'm like well I think that's your theory and I think it's a nice theory I don't think it's based in fact necessarily it's for example if you were to hypothesize that the if the Leafs had

Jimmy Vesey maybe they wouldn't need William Nylander that's I read no no I think that's nuts I think that's nuts look he's a very talented winger so was William Nylander your hypothesis is if you had one, you would have a surplus, a bigger surplus than you already have, and you can trade another. I'm not saying I would do it. I'm just saying I get that theory.

Yeah, I remember that Kane-Sharposa thing never happened in Chicago. No, it didn't work out. Damn, I hate scoring wingers. Yeah, I know. Especially elite ones. Yeah, oh yeah. Look, I'm not saying I agree with it,

but I get where the theory's coming from. I'm just saying I don't think the theory came from anywhere other than logic. Logic and hearsay, it didn't come from someone saying, here's the case. Here's the illogical part for me. Where does this make sense for Calgary?

I mean, we come at it from a Toronto perspective. Yeah, what do they need? I don't know that they need... I mean, everybody can use a William Nylander. If you have a rookie that projects to score 65, 70 points, you're not getting him. but tell me how forget what you can get

for Dougie Hamilton losing Dougie Hamilton irreplaceable and like I said go to sportsnet.ca check out Andrew Berkshire's he ran the numbers on Dougie Hamilton

and just how good he's been this year and you know last year there was a bit of a growth period where you know he was kind of getting used to the system

and it was Bob Hartley's system and now the whole team has to readjust because there's a brand new system in place and a lot of people are criticizing it I feel like

Dougie Hamilton well, I think the Leafs know Dougie Hamilton, to get him they would lose overall. You would have to move so much to get him that it would not make sense in the end What's that saying? Cutting off your nose to spite your face?

Yeah. Something like that Well, addressing, killing his strength to address a weakness. Stephen Stamkos once told me back when Guy Boucher was his coach, Guy Boucher told him to work on his strengths 80% of the time and his weakness is 20 his weaknesses will come up a bit but focus on your strengths because that's

what make you makes you special so imagine if Stamkos put all this focus into uh becoming a better defensive forward and not his shot but yeah and didn't focus on his booming slap shot or you know what have you imagine if Ovechkin just stopped working on his shot Imagine if Conor McGregor Just stopped Practicing his left hand You know

Yeah That's Those are your signatures Right So The Flames have This glut of defensemen You could definitely

Trade one of them For I don't know Some other need In the organization The Leafs have Way too many wingers I think

You could trade One of them To address a need Or you could just be like, look at all of this! And you can Scrooge McDuck swim through your surplus. You have something that

not necessarily every other team has. Why not embrace it? The Leafs are at the point now where when the free agents leave this year like all the free agents that leave this year there will still be no roster spots left next year. What do they need to add? Sure, they could upgrade some skill

but they've got NHL players playing on the Marlies right now. Let's assume Two lines worth Let's assume The player the Leafs lose In the expansion draft Is one of Martin Marincin or Frank Corrado

Unless there's a Trade that I can't forecast Kadri's going to be on the team next year Kamrao's going to be on the team next year I don't think anyone on the Marlies is Kicking Connor Brown out of his spot No Zach Hyman

Is only getting better Still my man Austin Matthews Get out of my face William Nylander unless he's traded for Dougie Hamilton um

Soshnikov Bozak JVR Bozak JVR maybe maybe there would have to be

a trade though Matt Martin maybe Ben Smith but I don't know Ben Smith and who else is on that line and I uh

Ben Smith Matt Martin and William Nylander actually it was Nylander no who the hell

oh Sosh it was Sosh yeah so yeah I guess William Nylander and you could argue So Ben Smith, one spot. You got one spot.

Hooray. And it's a center spot. Brendan Leipzig, I would say the Leafs' most worthy prospect, doesn't play that position. So does Nylander have to shift back to the middle? Something's got to happen. They're actually probably going to have to trade from the forward position. I'm really...

God, every time the Leafs piss me off and ruin my night with a game like the one against the Flames, I just I start dreaming again and I go oh gosh this is so exciting well it's almost

they almost have it I'm looking at the the draft picks over the next couple years what is it 14 16 16 in the next

they got a lot they still got what are they going to do at least one or two yeah at least one or two of the Sharks well and it's interesting

because they got all those older guys who are all of a sudden going to be ready for at very least pro sooner than

anticipated Yegor Korshkov was the second round pick last year. He's already 20. He's doing really well in the KHL. I don't know when he's scheduled to come over from the KHL. You got Adam Brooks, who is just dunking on the WHL. Like, he's too good for it. He's too good

for it. He should be in the A. He's not. Jeremy Bracco, too good for the OHL. Far too good for the OHL. Too bad. He's there. He's not one of the older guys that they drafted, but he's older now. Because he was picked two years ago. Carl Grundstrom.

He's probably going to end up on Team Sweden. For the world juniors Like Yeah there's a glut man There's a Now I'm excited again Well Ah you know what

Keep Enroth He's fine He's brought some spots For everybody I think what we're seeing Right now Is the Leafs In an awkward

Like last year Transition period But this is the This is the awkward Pre-teen stage Where your limbs Are a little too long You've got braces

And you've got acne Like there's some Really great spots But then there's some blemishes Adam at age 18 Yeah My pre-teens Lasted my entire teens

No, it's true I got better and then I got worse I had a little pocket Where I was like, it's okay And I lost a tooth And then gained weight And then that acne It was just terrible

Adam made a sacrifice Because you got braces late My dentist when I turned 18 was like You could get braces And I'm like, I could punch you in the face I am not having braces going into my first year of university. Are you out of your mind?

Yeah. There's someone listening right now going, shut up, Ken. Oh, and I had the clear braces too, so every time I drank coffee, they turned yellow. It was a nice shady yellow. Oh, that's awesome.

So I was like, oh, come catch me. Get over here and catch me. Literally, I think there was a point when I was 17, I think it was 17 and a half till, which I had just got my braces on, and I want to say it lasted until

the end of first year of university. Even later Is this before Or after Halifax This is This is before Halifax Halifax So basically

Yeah I was like a year and a half Where I didn't even kiss a girl Like there was no date Not just kiss No dates Nothing Not one single kiss

Not Not a single thing Oh that sucks Yeah it sure did It was Top on Adam's confidence Oh jeez Adam Oh gosh

No kisses I wanted to date Cindy Who was a Sagittarius But it just didn't Just didn't work out uh anyway so the uh we should i was hoping we'd do the whole show like that yeah well we should probably calm down jesse how many people will be offended by this i just hope everyone people currently in braces

men man i've been there i can make fun of people i had them i went there it's not just the look like i asked i asked someone we went to high school with who had had braces forever and i knew they were getting them off in a couple months and i was like what are you gonna do when you get your braces off and they were just like, I'm just going to sit there and lick my teeth. That's what I did.

I was like, ugh. By the way, anybody with braces That sounds like an awful existence. Anybody with braces listening to this right now, it is the best feeling.

So you have like Christmas waiting for you whenever that happens. Christmas. Be excited. We got to wrap it up on Sportsnet 590 The Fan. The podcast is brought to you

by Panago Pizza. It's what's on the inside that counts. You can download it at sportsnet.ca and by the way, this continues. There's more to come.

More to come. Oh my goodness. Including Steve. throwing me under the bus last episode and we'll talk about that. Oh, gee. So, Steve,

you posted an article at Sportsnet.ca about the Doug Gilmore trade tree. Which, by the way, ended this past summer. Wow. I mean, it did involve

a lot of players. January 2nd, 1992 all the way to July 2016. See, that is, I mean, that's understandable. Were there eight, nine players? Nine players. Ten.

Ten in the initial trade. and then a bunch of those players I think six of the ten were traded and that continued the tree and people they have they say trade trees

end at the last trade no it ends when the last player involved in the trade leaves that team so Sam Carrick was picked with a pick that the Leafs got

in like 2010 or something like that but he didn't leave the organization until this past summer but then doesn't it keep going no because he left as a free agent so it's as soon as you leave as a free agent it's done yeah

you're the genetic dead end of that tree I don't know if that makes sense yeah there you go um yeah the Leafs got Jamie McCowan and this is why it took so long for the trade to end Jamie they got the Leafs got

Jamie McCowan from the Flames McCowan was a Leaf for 7 years before being traded to Detroit for a fourth. That fourth was Alex Ponikarovsky, who then was a Leaf for a very, very long time. Hey, he had a decent career. Almost 700 games, man. Whatever, I like Ponikarovsky.

Shut up. Shut up. Don't make fun of Ponikarovsky. He was, at best, a third-line winger. At best. That's outrageous. He was playing with Sundin, and he was propped up by Sundin. You're outrageous.

You're outrageous. Jonas Hoagland would have retired three years sooner had he not played with Sundin. He had five straight 18 goal seasons. That's pretty good. By Leafs standards, why isn't his jersey hanging from the rafters? Exactly.

Come on! That was, when I saw Antropov and him line up with Sundin, that's when I was like, we're in trouble. I remember they called it the skyline because it was such a tall line and Bill Waters got all curmudgeon-y

and he went, I call it the flat line. Because it was bad. You mean... Oh, I'm sorry. Jesse loves old man here. You mean great line. You mean for a change,

Bill Waters got curmudgeon-y? Yeah. Wow, that's so out of character. I call it the flat line. What do you mean, Al Strachan's grumpy? I remember listening to Bill. And I thought, you know, at the time, I was like, well, this guy's...

His opinion counts for something. He was the assistant GM for a while. Sure. And I remember him saying, Paul Maurice's first season in Toronto, the Leafs went on a bit of a hot streak in November, December. And I remember him being on Derringer here in Toronto, and Derringer was one of my favorite, favorite DJs of all time, still is. And he said, if the Leafs continue to keep this up,

if the Leafs keep this up, Paul Maurice will win the Jack Adams Award. It was late November, early December when he said that. Lots of those. I mean, Ron Wilson saying Phaneuf is the best defenseman in the league by a country mile right now. By the end of the season we might be like, remember when that

dick called for Kadri to win the Selkie? Right. We might. But I mean, that's not going to happen. He's going to win it. I just thought, when I think back to that, that's one thing that really stands out in my head. That was running the Leafs. That was part of their brain trust.

Pokahoski got traded to Pittsburgh for Luca Caputi and Martin Skula. Luca Caputi turned into... And Martin Skula, like, never played for the Leafs, but he was pretty good.

He was flipped, yeah. So, Luca Caputi turned into Nicolas... Nicolas Deschamps, who never played for the Leafs. He was in the minors. Deschamps was traded for Kevin Marshall,

never played for the Leafs. He was in the minors. Skula was flipped for a fifth. That fifth was Sam Carrick. Carrick was in the Leafs organization until

July. I think Skula would have been better had he played for the Leafs. Well, he didn't. He should have. If some butts were candy and nuts, at least wouldn't have had the same character. Let's talk about who objectively won this trade.

Like, we know, but how much... You know, you were explaining some stats to me on our dog walk yesterday. Because, by the way, I've adopted a dog. I now have a dog. Bindi! Bindi is my dog name. And she's terrified of everything,

and she's from the Dominican, and she's not used to having owners, and she's not used to being crated, so there's a whole bunch of training process. So she's shaking outside yesterday, just terrified of everything, and Iggy's like, play with me!

Of course, you got my dog, this giant dragon-looking, never-ending story guy going. It's like Shaq playing with Danny DeVito. And Danny DeVito's terrified. What was that movie with Schwarzenegger and DeVito? Who's, no. Twins? It looks like twins. Uncle Junior.

Isn't it Uncle Junior? I don't know. I don't know. No, no, Junior. I ruined it. Where he's pregnant? Anyway. Yeah.

I don't know. That's the one where he's pregnant. Thank you. I've been trying to figure that out for months. Not Uncle Junior. It's just Junior. Anyway. I'm old enough

That I don't look stuff up I try to figure it out On myself Out of protest Yeah Whenever you ask Like someone who's Under the age of 25

Hey do you know They'll be like Nah We had this situation When you guys Were trying to figure out The draft pick Which one?

On Saturday Was it Who Buffalo drafted This past year You guys were standing there Oh yeah And Jesse is Just looking at us quietly

Having already looked it up And I'm like No let me find it out Jesse goes Alex And I go Alex Yeah, and how we didn't know that.

Yeah, I just forgot. Yeah, too many beers. So, you went through some actual specific numbers, and one of the ones that stood out to me was just straight up games played. Oh, and this is just the initial trade. Just the initial trade. The initial trade. Because we don't want to blow the whole article.

Right, the initial trade, Calgary got 499 games played out of it. Out of Lehman, Walmsley. No, they got Barube Reese Oh, Reese So it was Gary Lehman Jeff Reese

Craig Barube Craig Barube Michelle Petit And I know you're looking it up, Jesse But I'm determined I got stamina Oh

Alex Godinyuk Or whatever you say his name So Out of those 499 games 234 belonged to Craig Berube and he scored 27 points in those games the Leafs

I don't remember the exact number I think Jesse has it right there well now I gotta look it up it was it's over a thousand games played now and let's also include in that I mean we know Dougie Gilmore was the

centerpiece of that trade but can we include in that the fact that it was probably the greatest single season. 92-93 was probably the greatest single season by any Leaf ever. Ever. Ever. 127 points. Hart nominee, I think. Selke winner. Yeah. I don't...

That'll probably never be topped. Who was the last Leaf to crack 100? That'll never... 127? Someone's gonna crack 127? That'll never be topped? How much did Patrick Kane have last year? It's gonna take a very long time. I don't think it was 120. He was on pace for like a long time

I think it'll happen I think it'll happen in our lifetime Mitch Martinman or Osteen Mattman? Correct answer William Nealonman The correct answer is actually all three At the same time Yeah

And Caudrey still wins the Selkie though I'm gonna give you that But I mean, so there's just that Captain Matt Martin If they had just traded Gilmore for those five guys It's still an uneven trade It would've been fine You still think it would've been fine?

No, no, no Like it would've been fine for the Leafs Yeah Calgary three of the five players they got didn't crack 60 games played

with the team now I was even generous in my trade tree to the Flames because there was a trade

where they got a guy named Tommy Albaline who was decent for them and also Cale Hulse who was a decent player I had his hockey card

yeah me too he wasn't with the Flames for very long but those guys are shoehorned in because the the flames got those two and someone else i don't remember who in a trade for

someone down the trade tree but that someone was packaged in a deal for phil housley so it's not like the flames got those three players for the other guy whose name i can't even remember they got them for phil housley who wasn't even involved so i like i was trying to give them everything i could they it is an all-time fleecing they gave away the calgary flames in the late 80s and early 90s gave away some mega mega talent brett hall yeah uh doug gilmore are the two that really stand out in my mind but holy smokes we got to talk like the the reason the only reason the flames didn't win eight cups themselves is because of edmonton and oh yeah uh and also look back at the flames team that won the cup go look at the names the sheer name obnoxious obnoxious it's not just

Lanny McDonald, which is the name everyone seems to remember. I think Theron Fleury was a draft pick of theirs. I don't know if Brett Hull was still on the team. Joe Neuendijk was. Brett Hull wasn't. He was traded in 87-88. Gary Roberts was there. Who did they get from him?

They got someone good for Brett Hull. Someone good-ish, but not Brett Hull good. I think it might have been Joe Neuendijk. No, that was Jerome McGinley. Yes. No. Nope. It wasn't that either.

They traded Neuendijk for McGinley. Sorry. Oh, yeah. It was the opposite. Red Hall, I forget who they got from St. Louis Forum. St. Louis. The Calgary Flames could have coasted until about 1997. Had they held on to Gilmore, had they held on to Hall,

they didn't think Hall could skate, and he really couldn't. But the NHL game was slowing down at that point, and it kind of suited him perfectly. I mean, imagine Calgary, which really struggled, and really struggled financially in the mid-90s. And they had guys like, I think they had Robert Reichel, they had Marty St. Louis, they had, you know, But some mega, mega, mega talent come in and out of there.

Marc Savard. It's amazing when you look back at Calgary and go, boy, there's some real asset mismanagement. Marc Savard. Real asset mismanagement. And the thing was, St. Louis and Savard were both really good in Calgary, but Calgary after St. Louis, they thought St. Louis was a bit like a... A flash in the pan sort of thing.

I want to do an article on... So I did the trade tree for Gilmore, obviously. I did the crazy great fear trade. and that was giant cliff fletcher was a madman a met the first sorry first cliff fletcher second cliff fletcher thought jeff finger was a good idea so he was a madman yeah yeah exactly so there's madman good madman bad yes i am trying to bring it up cliff fletcher i need to just talk about the sheer impact he had in such a short amount of time and it's taken me forever to find because of course it is so this is starting okay let's just start from new year's day 1992

doug gilmore yeah so the next day flames by the way yes exactly uh so it was gilmore jamie mccowan kent manderville rick natris and wick rick walmsley for craig berube alexander god nuke gary lehman michelle petite jeffries february 7th uh 27th 1992 mark ferner for future considerations whatever another small trade with the Sabres March 10th 1992

Leafs acquire Ken Baumgartner and Dave Mick Mick Micklewayne I think for Claude Lozelle

and yeah Daniel Marois the Leafs got Mark Osborne that same day in a trade with the Jets

they traded another guy for cash in June like and then they trade a first

No, they get a first and a fourth from Washington for a second, third, and a fourth. And the Grant-Fure trade is in there. And there was like a 12-month period where, or a 12- or 18-month period where Fletcher completely overturned the roster on a scale that even the rebuild that the Leafs just went through, like it can't touch it. There's also, okay, Leafs trade Grant-Fure and a fifth to the Buffalo Sabres. What'd the Leafs get? A first

Darren Pupa And Dave Anderchuk And the first was Kenny Janssen By the way They gave away Kenny Janssen Would have been great

As a Leaf Oh yeah He was great As a Leaf What's that? I think he was He was traded for Wendell Clark

He was traded For Wendell Clark But the Leafs No the Leafs Also gave up A first round pick In that trade That first round pick

Ended up being The fourth overall pick In 1997 Who ended up being Roberto Luongo And also I believe They traded To New Jersey

I believe they traded The Nylander Or not Nylander Niedermeyer pick I think the Leafs had A Niedermeyer pick They did But that was

I don't remember If that was pre or post Cliff Fletcher joining For the first time Yeah Because he joined in 91 And that was a 91 pick I think

But I don't know If that was him Anyway Insane An insane overhaul Yeah Go to NHLTradeTracker.com Look up trades by GM

And there's actually two categories for Cliff Fletcher under the Leafs. Go to the 91 to 97 one. Well, you think about that. Let's just go through the names. So you got Gilmore, Gartner, Anderchuk, Sundeem. I forgot about Gartner. Like, Sundeem was brought in, I think, the year after 92-93.

Like, I think he was brought in for the Vancouver run. I can't remember if he drafted Potvin or not. Yeah, Sundeem. Every player you grew up cheering for was a Cliff Fletcher trade. Clark, like, except for Clark, Gilmore, Anderchuk, Sundin, Mike Gardner, I think he

was instrumental in bringing over Nikolai Borshevsky, Jamie McCowan, probably Dmitry Yuskevich, like, maybe not Stumpy Thomas. I think that was the Pac Quinn era. It was. Yeah. And Stumpy had played for the Leafs in the 80s when they were terrible and then left and then came back. I forgot about that.

Oh, Ty Domi! Ty Domi! Ty Domi! Yeah. It's absolutely insane Absolutely insane what Trader Cliff did Who is still with the Leafs by the way Trader Cliff did and then undid He never left I don't know if he ever fully left

He's like senior advisor or something like that Sit at home and pay me Maybe Just let us give him his due Because you know what That was one of the better moments in a terrible terrible stretch Of being a Leaf fan If you told a Leaf fan

At the beginning of 1980 What would happen Because the 70s were okay They were okay They weren't great But you're still Yeah but I'm getting itchy This cup drought's

Eight years now And I don't know If I can stand it So Daryl Sittler's On his way out In the early 80s If he's not already gone I think he was gone

In 78 or something like that 79 Something like that Lanny McDonald's gone Boria Salming's still there But you got this guy I don't know Rick Vive

And some other people Like that coming up If you had told a Leaf fan In 1980 How every season would go Up until now Do you think they would have been like Fuck it

You tell them Okay You're going to want to take At least a four year nap Or Wake up when Wendell Clark is drafted Those are still going to be pretty bad But they're going to be exciting

I want to wake up in 90 I would have wanted to wake up When Doug Gilmore came In 92 Yeah When Gilmore came to town And they changed the jerseys That's

Came to town Yeah Yikes man Yikes It's just bad It's so bad I hate it. What else we got on the show?

It's a very leaf-heavy show, and I'm trying to think of other things going on in the world. You know what this is? It's a leaf-heavy show. I know. I'm just trying to be fair. That's Jesse. Motherfucker. How do you feel about fairness?

Fairness? Yeah. I believe that we're never fair to anybody. No. Speaking of not fair, the Islanders... Just ask anybody that listens. Exactly. Oh!

You know what I just realized? I realized last night Almost every time We definitively Talk shit About a team They do great Right after

I think The Canucks are doing Better than expected Because of this show So we're taking credit For this? 100% Okay

Who took a beating Last episode? New York Islanders Huge beating What did they do? They beat the Pittsburgh Penguins And Tie a record

For fastest two goals In the process Two goals in three seconds Who was on the first line? It was Nicky Kuhlman I believe I believe Mr. Strom was too Was he?

I didn't even notice I heard from Islanders fans So hey And Kuhlman I think scored One of the Two goals in the record I It's Kuhleman

I asked the fucking guy And he said My inner goddess Was dancing the merengue And Oh sorry Hey so Before we get to the

Press conference Steve you kind of hung me out To dry last episode Jesse I want to break down A conversation for you Oh, you haven't even told him yet? No, of course not. I don't talk to him about these things.

In advance, Merry fucking Christmas. Is it ripped Steve time? Well, here's the deal. Jesse gets excited and sits up. I don't know if it's ripped Steve time, but it does wipe off. So, we had a discussion last episode about

shaving a butt cheek. And by the way, I only did one. People were like, you shaved your whole ass? No, it was actually half my ass. okay Adam's good at half-assing that's right home run

that was good that was good it was really good I was a zinger so so we I take Steve down

to let him out of the the garage here and just as I'm getting out of his car and he's about to drive home he's like

by the way I totally hung you out to dry there I nared my ass when I was 18 what no not 18 I wasn't 18

I wasn't I might have been in grade 8 still so I would have been like 13 or 14 Dude Hair Pants

You knew what Nair was in grade 8? I didn't know until I worked at Shoppers Drug Mart I was at least 15 16 16

I don't know I thought I don't know what I Okay run us down No You're a bad friend Right? Now

Steve Why did you decide The avalanche placed Eric Jelena on waiver Why did you decide to Nair your butt? Because it was

super hairy And I don't know I thought Was it uncomfortable I thought girls like smooth butts Was it uncomfortable to sit on Yeah of course it was I thought girls like smooth butts

I think they do I don't know if they can tell through your pants though How hairy is your ass Like if it's hairy enough that you can see it through a pair of jeans Then yeah I would get a chainsaw on that No but what if I was in a scenario Where a girl saw my butt And it wasn't smooth

Did you know you in grade 8? Listen Grade 8 me Had dreams Eddie George Or I had aspirations That was I believe that's where

Aspirations I believe that's where The Eddie George Thing Jersey came from And then you wore it Into grade 9 Yeah I think you're right

Might have been grade 7 And if I'm not mistaken You had Did you not have a chain On your wallet too? Did you? Ooh I don't remember I think I might have

And it was super short Cause everybody did At that point Yeah But my question is I also had Carl Canai pants With a big metal K That scratched up

Every wooden chair I sat on We were talking about this last episode Adam's there pouring out his soul And you're just sitting there I wanted to leave, it was really late I'm sorry I know Hung out to dry, Jesse

You're just laundry to him I didn't have quite the struggle That Adam did Because at least I had the sense To not shave my ass But instead to Nair it Which doesn't quite have the same itchy side effects

And the thing was and I have to give you credit for this you did it in grade 8 I did it in university like yeah you should definitely be smarter than that

by then yeah like you had to apply and get approved for a post-secondary program I wasn't even in high school yet have you guys seen

the it's an old sketch I think it's Mad TV where you know at that at a certain point they were like just adding a bunch of nefarious razor blades

to every cartridge pack so like the Mach 3 came out and then it became Quattro and then it was the Cinco like the five

It just shows it shaving through layers of skin Take your entire face off Matt TV was great So I had I realized this after the show When I shaved It was a five razor blade Thing that I'd been given for free on the street

You're just starting up Like a gas lawnmower Driving it over your ass Your ass Your ass Which has never been shaved before My poor booty My right cheek has never been the same

And did you ever do it again? I never did Boy Just cuts and scrapes baby How did yours work out? Do you remember? Was there any awkwardness? No, I told no one

And because there were absolutely no prospects No one ever found out And I don't think it was the whole ass Like you I wasn't the whole ass Like you, it wasn't the whole ass I was like, let's try a little patch of ass And then

A patch A patch of ass So I nared My ass No, I nared A patch of ass And I thought, you know what This is smooth

And it feels like class But it must look ridiculous and it did I want to thank everybody who reached out and said there were several people that reached out

with the exact same sentiment I guess they were all having bad days and then they were like it's good to know that someone's life has been worse and I was like

well it's true so I've I told Jesse I'm like you know what we gotta get more videos on the YouTube channel

and I was you know just take an excerpt from like any show whatever you think is the best we talked about so many things

like the Panthers like that that to me would have been the thing to take Jesse isolates the story of Adam shaving his ass. This bodes well for potential future sponsors, eh? They're going to be clicking through our YouTube channel.

Yeah, let me see what... Huh. Someone's like, hmm, you know what? It's the beginning of December. The holiday season's coming. People are going to go shopping. I want to advertise on the Steve Dangle podcast. Yeah.

Let me just see what the... Let's see what Merrick and Wyszynski are talking about. Well, see, Panago's good because they... I remember the first meeting we had with them. And they were like, okay, we're really, really interested. And at this point, we had, I think we had 25 listens an episode. 2,500 listens an episode, which was, it was about three, four months in. We were still ecstatic.

We were like, oh my God, this is crazy. How are this many people listening to the show? And they're like, one thing though, we don't really love the official hashtag of the show. That's literally the only ask that they've ever had. Only thing they've ever asked. They said, can it not be hashtag Steve's peepee? and we're like yeah we think

we can grant you that that's fair yeah because we were I think that came out of a stripper story in the first episode and

should our new hashtag be Adam's ass no no it shouldn't but Panago Panago's used to it right they're used to us

just being a little bit weird and being half-assing it I'm disappointed we never got to see Adam do an episode naked well because we never got a thousand retweets

we never got a thousand retweets oh we didn't how many did we get three fucking yeah we ended somewhere in the 300s because like very shortly

it was like an hour or two after you tweeted that it was like 200 something yeah I was like I think we're gonna see if Adam's shaved his ass recently

but Panda goes used to all this I think anybody that comes in and advertises it would be like wow there's a

you know that friend that you really like but when you introduce them to other people it takes them getting used to before they like them too oh yeah what if we get a

razor blade company to sponsor us and then we do an ass shaving segment hey dollar shave club is there a dollar nair club

nair is scary man yeah it just dissolves your hair one of the worst I bet you could use that to declog drains no

maybe because that's mostly just hair right well wait wait till you have a girlfriend that lives with you and she has long hair

my fiance's hair I was like Where are we going? Does she nair? And wait She has long hair Does she just nair her head? No no no

But like her hair falls out Okay you know the scare cam Like all the The scare cam vines You have a nair cam? That was before The mannequin challenge And the backpack challenge

Owling Anybody owling? Pranking? Planking? Oh owling I forgot about that One guy goes Nair cam

And he just squirts nair On his buddy's head And it's falling out In chunks I'm like What a dick that's gonna take a long time to grow back man because that's not shaving that's like you're an asshole was that a prank or was it a prank a quote like no it looked real

it looked pretty real okay um how quickly does it work pretty fucking quick you leave it on for a few sec uh a few minutes you go this shit doesn't work then you go this shit burns a little and then you wipe it and it's gone gone crazy it's yeah don't use it okay on your ass but definitely have a panico pizza have a panico pizza it's classy classy oh my god they don't half-ass it they shave the whole ass let's do the press conference oh all right let's do that okay so Now, this is crazy. Before we do the press conference, Chris Meyer. Now, this is, Americans are definitely not going to know where this is.

Inuvik, Northwest Territories. Northwest Territories, by the way, there used to be two territories. It used to be the Yukon Territory and the Northwest Territory. They're not provinces. They're not states. They're territories. They're a part of the country, but they are different because they're very, very lightly populated. A lot of empty space

And really there's Protected territory Of the Canadian government Doesn't Yellowknife have Like 30,000 people Or something like that And that's like The biggest city they got

Does Nunavut still exist Nunavut yeah Nunavut's the It's a province So they had the northwest You know it's not a province It's a territory I'm pretty sure

Nunavut's a province Jesse Google But so northwest territories Used to be that And then they split it And made Nunavut So Inuvik is Is still part of

The northwest territories A little geography lesson Basically it's above I'm pretty sure Nunavut's it's above like Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta so go north

and then go norther yeah so Chris Meyer sends this to us and I Chris I guess he contacted you Jesse yeah he reached out

and just asked what our address is and I gave it to him and then he spent probably three thousand dollars to ship whatever this is to us

have you guys ever seen um oh my god this is you're already gonna love this what is it I can't even uh give me a sec

have you seen grocery store pictures From up there How expensive Like it's like $40 For a bag of milk Like it's Oh I believe it

It's crazy To get food up there Dude even Newfoundland Like there's a noticeable Difference at restaurants Cause it's an island Yeah Any place where it's hard

To get food to What it makes sense Alright This is Chris Who is not on social media So we've never heard From him before directly He's actually mailing us

Wow He said boys Give this sweater a good home I'm not a collector not a hoarder and I can't wear it anymore to be shared by all underlined

long live so Steve don't take this free shit you bastard Steve it's all yours long live King James King James?

first round is on STP hashtag free shit hashtag sort of hashtag free Frankie that's Chris from Inovik Northwest Territories

who is not on social media I believe see I'm thinking maybe LeBron oh Look at that! Steve, you don't have a James Reimer jersey in your possession. I don't have a jersey of any Leaf who is not me.

Oh, wow. Oh, no, Felix Poffin. Why do you not have a James Reimer jersey? Signed and framed. That is funny that he doesn't have one. I have Ovechkin and Felix Poffin. This has to go in your next video. Yeah.

I think so too I think we've been talking about for a while putting together like a better studio for the podcast and doing some other things

to upgrade the actual viewing part of this because we realize it's like a straight shot and it's in a grey ugly studio this would be since it has to be shared by all

according to Chris's rules this should be one of the jerseys we put up when we do our like our new studio there it is there it is

that's what we do with it but we have to have we gotta have Rhymer's name showing don't we or do we just wanna no you do the back I see some times

yeah the back you gotta have some Rhymer in there Anyway, I'm going to give this to you, Steve, to hang on to for safekeeping because we know it'll be safest with you. I know that you'll treasure it because it's James. I will.

There you go. Otherwise, if it was anybody other than James, I'd give it to Jesse. Let's keep this far. Let's keep this far. Hey, fuck you. Hey, I can't take care of stuff. Listen, I know our strengths and weaknesses, my friend.

Oh, fair enough. That's good coaching. Yeah. That's good coaching, guys. We focus on our strengths. Let's do the press conference. um so i i discovered something and adam was actually there for it when i discovered something before we get to the press conference so i was showing him i made some changes to my leaf wall

and i was actually going to make a video on it and post it and i'm like yeah here's all the johnny bauer stuff here's where i put the johnny bauer stuff oh and here's my picture with james Reimer and the famous $60 that's not my James Reimer figure where's my James Reimer figure so I have two Morgan Riley figures because casual mats gave me one shout out

so I have two now that's cool so I'm looking around I go where is this James Reimer figure did I accidentally hang up the wrong one when I was doing this I'm looking I'm looking I can't find it and I say to Adam I go I think Mrs. Dangle thinks she's slick

so So I said later that night, I go, now, you don't have to tell me what you did with it. And I just see her face go. By the way, she's terrible at surprises. Oh, she sucks. But she, this was slick. I almost didn't get, if you hadn't come over, I wouldn't have caught it. Wow.

I don't think I would have caught it. So she hung, basically, she just was like, I know he has an extra, so I'm just going to put it there. She put up my Morgan Riley figure, my second Morgan Riley figure above my other Morgan Riley figure. So she's doing something currently with your James Reimer. Yeah, I go, you don't have to tell me what you did with it. Just tell me you did something with it so I know I haven't lost it. And she's like, yes. Oh, man, I can't wait to find out what it is.

Yeah, so she didn't ruin anything. Christmas. Yeah. But you didn't ask. No. But you didn't ask because she would have told you. Oh, 100%. She sucks at surprises.

I've told her she sucks at Christmas. Which, by the way, she keeps telling me, like, I got you something. I got you another something. Don't check the mail because I think something arrived for you. And I'm like, how many things are, damn it. Yeah, because you know when they do that, now you've got to up your game too. Yes, that's how it works. And I got her an expensive jacket and she's like, no, no, you got me that like last year.

So don't worry about it. And I'm like, how long is this going to last? Yeah. This is, what kind of booby trap are you setting for me? Shut up. I know your tricks. Caprice and I have decided that we are actually going to go small because we spent a lot of money. Shut up.

Go small. Dog. Dog. Here's a new car. All the stuff that goes with the dog. And then the payment for the dog. Yeah. You know what, though?

She would like this. No. Until she says, oh, that handbag looks really nice. Oh, she did say that to me the other day. And I was like, dog. Are you sure? There's a crate over there. Dog.

Are you sure, Adam? My parents stuck to it one time because I had a messed up back when I was a teenager. And they got me this really expensive posturputic mattress. And they said, okay, this is your Christmas gift. You're not going to get anything for Christmas. And I went, fine, good. I would like it to function again. And so Christmas comes and I'm like, let's see what they got.

Like, I'm sure they actually got me something. They're like, we did. We got you something. I was like, oh, okay. I opened the box. It was a, uh, it was a Nike, a light blue Nike t-shirt. Oh, that's it. They got me a t-shirt.

Mad Max. Oh yeah. And now that I'm an adult, I'm like, it was really nice of them to give me that t-shirt. That's several Christmases worth of expense. Yeah, and I needed it. I needed it so bad. Yeah, of course you did. I get it.

I didn't discover how to fix the problem on my own until I was 27. Ballistic Matt wanted to know, speaking of Caprice. Ballistic Matt. Adam, is it possible that Caprice is a Closet Habs fan? I mean, her name is almost Carey Price. Whoa! I'll have to ask her. She might.

I'm going to get the audio. I will ask I will go a step further I think Adam is a Closet Habs fan what? after all excuse me

he kept it secret from me for so long that he's got a little bit of Quebecois in him so he's got this he's got this

Quebecois what do you do you got isn't your dad a Habs fan or something? no my dad was born in Montreal in the in the

Anglo section where were you born in? You're not Quebecois then, Adam? No, he's an Angler. It's just so strange because my Nona was Italian, which therefore kind of makes me Italian. Your dad was from Montreal, which makes you not. In the 50s when there was a much bigger Anglo population in Montreal before they started kicking him out. It's so weird when your parents are born somewhere and then you're also from there.

Because I think that's how it works. Jesse, where are your parents from? My father is from Trinidad. So you're Trini. I'm part Trini. No no I think that actually Makes you from Romania

Oh yeah Because Because now we get to Just decide our heritage We just get to decide Where we're from So Well it means

I'm Quebecois And Pennsylvanian Yeah That's what it means Not Torontonian Not for sure YL Over here

And his His fiancé Oh there's another one There's a French word Fiancé I bet he's gonna leave here And eat a baguette Probably

I would I freaking would That French boy I would go home and have a nap under his Pepe Le Pew poster. You're gonna go watch

Emily after this? Wow. Just do all your What a reference. You're gonna watch Télé Francais there, buddy? You're gonna maybe have a nice little sing-along

with a pineapple? You know how many non-names are so confused right now? Yeah, la-na-na. Which is just pineapple. Anyway, so we figured it out. Alright, alright.

Carrie Price loving fiancé over here. Caprice, that's funny. I didn't even think about that. Well done, Ballistic Matt. This explains a lot because his... I was going to say his previous girlfriend's name was Altoia. Not smart.

Not clever. We'll work on it. I don't even know what that is. Al-Montoya. Uh-huh. Oh, you mean her name was Altoia? You're making this up. You're not actually pretending this to an ex-girlfriend.

It would have been a lot better if it was an actual girlfriend. You're Justin Smoke every time it goes up to the plate. Sometimes Edwin walks it off. Other times he throws the bat into the third baseline. Fair. Okay. Hey, Steve. Are you glad that you missed out on dating as a teenager?

Because I feel like you haven't told everyone about it. Hey, what's your name? What's this guy's name? Pauly Fona Crusader. That's the reddit name. Okay, Paul. Don't take your frustration in dating out on me just because I got lucky, okay? Steve.

Steve. What? What? Look, it was years of me going I just wish someone would like me If you had a choice And then someone did and I locked down If you had a choice of dating and not dating

What would you have taken? I probably wouldn't do it I probably wouldn't date That's a shocker I'm shocked You know what, Paul? I also like the Leafs Have you ever canoed?

Why don't you go A.C.? Are we going to talk about the Leafs? Fuck you, Paul Have you ever canoed to Alberta? Oh, you fuck You know what? The second Connor Brown blocked that shot in the Oilers game

and it looked like he might not play I'm like who's laughing now Adam be shit Leafs are like okay we'll put him on we'll put Levo on the plane

Levo is hurt allegedly we got another question from another weird reddit name is it also from an asshole all flesh his grass writes

hey pals I'm a relatively new listener and fairly new to hockey in general as such I have recently become aware of how handsome Joffrey Lupo is I realize it's obviously not your job to let me know

Who is and who is not handsome But I'm wondering Aaron Ekblad Aaron Ekblad is for sure Joffrey definitely was Henrik Lundqvist If you're into like an aged Eric Carlson

My fiance I'll say that Caprice is totally obsessed with Eric Carlson And his now fiance I think he's a specific taste though Because I think some girls would find him gross. Well, if you're into D'Artagnan from The Three Musketeers. Oh, is that a French word? That's, oh.

It's a French name. Carlson, Ottawa. A lot of French people from Ottawa. Ottawa has a lot of those. The Ottawa Secretly French conspiracy is going to be great. I can't wait for more theories to come up from this. We need one of those YouTube videos where it's a dude narrating slideshow pictures. Andrew's going to be so disappointed.

you know what that explains why every time like I walk in on Adam when he's in another room he's on the phone

going oh I'll have to call you back hangs up he puts on his English accent I think it's all a front

j'accuse Frenchie see he was j'accuse he was whipping on a lot of on a lot of balls in the strike zone

and then he got j'accuse j'accuse was good yeah yeah No one was talking about Rajay Davis' batting average when he hit that home run in the eighth.

Were they? No. Oh, fuck. Come on, guys. Getting towards the end of the show. You know when you go too far? You know when you can go fuck yourself?

I love you, man. I love you. Name another goal that Uwe Krupp scored. I can't, but he scored a Stanley Cup winning goal. That's right, and it got him a four-year contract

in Detroit where he you bet your balls he was like I'm injured guys and then they showed up on ESPN oh I don't remember that what would you get

Don Cherry for Christmas it's from Nick W18 what would I get Don Cherry for Christmas an Ikea gift card he would have to appreciate all the Wonderful thing Sweden has to offer.

Oh, that's a good one. No, yeah. Okay, I get it. A Matt Cook jersey. I'd bring him to my ancestral homeland, Quebec. And make him spend the night at the Chateau, what is it in Quebec City? The Chateau... Did you see Adam?

The second you brought up Don Cherry, he went... And I'd make him wear a visor. And we'd walk around Quebec City. which is beautiful and that's what we would do we would do that we would wear visors

and that's all I got I got nothing I'm tired I'm not sleeping much I have a dog in the house now alright new parents listening are like

oh my bad it was crying as I laughed I was sad it was sad oh do you have a petit chien petit chien which also means

that Adam's on vacation oh vacation so you got plenty of time vacances I think it's vacance Arrête Final question

This is for Steve Oui If I already liked All your videos And subscribed to your channel And told all my friends about it Oui How am I supposed to

Show my appreciation? Merde I don't even know What that means Mail me money Okay so what List those things again So they've already

Liked your video They subscribed to the channel Told all their friends about it And now they're wondering how they can keep supporting it Now you gotta subscribe to the podcast channel What if they already did that? They're obviously already listening Then you wait for your next assignment

I think They're looking to support Steve Dangle And they've done everything they can Buy some merch You should buy a Deep Dish streets shirt I'm gonna answer this Go ahead Gaston, answer it Go ahead John

bought any bear go ahead go ahead and butt someone over their wild still my favorite family guy clip of all time

besides besides the not as bad as the I think the thing to do is to keep

if you can keep listening keep commenting keep liking keep responding you know

like that's the thing the true mark of anything great I think in the internet age is not even how many likes it has it's how many comments how many people are emotionally moved enough to respond to actually take time out of their life and go but take the comment section back yeah everyone associates the comment section with awful bullshit take it back well i have to say our comment

sections are usually pretty good ours are good i read them from time to time and that's because our our listeners we the audience we attract is good and also we're not on facebook we're not on facebook i uh so i was featured on uh russian machine never breaks um because of my ovechkin video and i looked at the comments just to see if there were a bunch of capitals fans going fucking like who cares this guy's some leafs fan we don't care and every single comment was nice yeah i texted ian i go how did you do that you have a website on the internet and it's only full of nice people how did you do that can be done can be done we aim we're aiming for it i think uh yours are great yeah i think honestly just the fact that you're you're here is great i i i don't

know i always look at this this show especially and kind of think like it's it's sort of um it's awesome it's awesome the way that i would rather like you know i love the fact that we get corrected by people all the time i love the fact that i am constantly pushed into new viewpoints like you you have to you have to think of things a lot differently nouveau nouveau nouveau correct um every time adam says a word where i'm like i know the french word for that i gotta point it I mean, that's enough, right? The fact that you're listening is great. You know, and we're trying to, I mean,

and I know, Steve, I know how hard you work on those videos. So hard. You're not making, you're not being serious with me right now, but you do work very hard. No, I'm just, I thought that was an opportunity for me to be modest, and I was like, no, yeah, it's hard. It's hard to take a French person seriously. It is.

Wow. Yeah, it's hard to take him seriously. My entire family's from, like, England. and moved to... Where's your dad from? England? Or however? I don't even know.

He's from Montreal. Thank you. What is that? Montreal. Who plays in Montreal? You know what? He's hitting that T really hard. Like, I think so much...

I think he's trying to compensate. You know what? Can all the Canadiens fans get behind me a little bit here and be like, no. First off, no. Second, you're welcome here.

I'm sure the Canadiens fans would gladly welcome me over, even though I'm a Leaf fan. I would be Are you? Are you a Leaf fan? I am a Leaf fan Get out of my face Adam

Get out of my visage Okay That's French for face We're gonna wrap this up Set up your own French word Why don't you go near your ass? You know what? Keep swinging Justin Smoad

Mechredi I am not Justin Smoad So next episode Do you mean I can hit both ways? There you go Next episode Chris Johnson will be on For the Leafs 30% report

Because there's 30% Way through the season About and that's how awkward you know what you'll remember it because it's weird Jesse will not be here but he will be in Vancouver are you guys going to email me the episode

or are you guys going to post it no no we're emailing it to you because I don't know what to do I'll email it to you in English and then Adam can do his thing we are a two language country sir so we have to by law and Jesse you

so you're going to miss that episode but Chris Johnson will be on to talk about the Leafs and talk a little bit more about stuff going on in the NHL. On Saturday, I'll be at the Leafs Canucks game.

You mean you'll be at the Leafs game in Vancouver? Yes, yes. I'll be wearing a Leafs jersey and I'll be yelling Toronto is the greatest city on earth and I'll probably send out

a tweet, first intermission or something and we can all take pictures if you want to take a picture with me. And also... And you do. The answer is yes.

A quick thing I think we should bring up because I think people would be like, why didn't you mention this on the show? Hannah Ryan Singh. Oh, yeah.

Amazing. And he was great last night Yeah Became the first Sikh Making his English hockey Broadcasting debut Tonight for And then the tweet cuts off

I assume Hockey night For Sportsnet Well no he did it last night Yeah it was last night Yes Yeah that's what I That's it right

Yes that is it Yeah Debut for the Leafs and Flames game There it is I'm sorry Yeah he was great Of course he was great Solid as hell

Like he I worried about him a little bit Because Nerves man What? Nerves Nerves Well, no, no, no, no, no.

I didn't worry for his performance. It was the Benino, Benino, Benino thing. I'm like, okay, I don't want that to be all he's known for. This guy has had a broadcasting career before Benino scored that goal. He should have one after and not just be the I didn't do it kid. You know what I mean? And now, damn, he is doing it. Good for him.

Doing it big. Doing it big. Doing it well. And Nick Benino, also still good. Also still doing it. Thank you Steve Listen Listen

I just try to be nice Or as you would say Whatever French for nice is Have a great one guys We'll see you Monday It's going to be a Monday episode And again And Jesse again

Will be at the Canucks Sorry the Leafs game In Vancouver And I will be at the Tampa Bay game Versus the Canucks Are you? I believe on Thursday next week

So come see me there Go see Adam It's the Steve Bangle podcast Tour without Steve Will not be there I will not be anywhere He will be in Oshawa Yeah he'll be with Iggy

Oh here You know what you can do You know what you can do Tweet at reporter Chris And go Hey man Can't wait for the 30% report Yeah

Do that Please do that Like en masse Like I want you to I want you I want it to stop being fun For him very quickly Yeah

Like make it Oh yeah make it super annoying Super excited to see The 30% report Tweet him Any picture that Pertains to 30% Any 30%

Sort of Connection that you can make Do it And I know we have the most creative people in the world on the internet. We have good peak internet people who can handle this. Peak internet people? There's some good Twitter out there for this show. It's awesome.

You know what's great? It's only 28% through the season. We are kind of lying. Should we say the 28%? No, it's the 30%. Should we end this podcast right fucking now? Right. Now.

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