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Panago Pizza presents S.T.P.
The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde.
Gentlemen, I have a question for you on this, the last show of 2016.
What would you ask me on this, the last show of 2016?
Is Sidney Crosby playing like he's tired of hearing of Connor McDavid's name?
I think Sidney Crosby is playing like he's tired of hockey.
He's had enough of hockey's garbage, and now hockey is paying for it.
Right.
Well, it just seems like, okay, so last night he ties Connor McDavid
for most points in the NHL, but Sidney is in the lead
because he's done it in five less games.
42 points, both of them.
Yes.
Pretty incredible.
In 36 games for Connor McDavid, 31 for Sidney.
I feel like Sidney Crosby
has been asked
time and time and time again
whoa how about this
Connor McDavid kid
is he the best NHL player
and Sidney
not hating Connor McDavid
but being probably
a pretty competitive guy
you gotta think that Sidney
probably likes to be in first
I think he literally
just has
like
whatever gym he works out in
is just surrounded
by televisions
with like crazy
movie theater
surround sound
and it's just the same clip
playing over and over again
Sidney Crosby
could learn something
from Jonathan Drouin
Sidney Crosby can learn something from Jonathan Drouin.
Sidney Crosby can learn something from Jonathan Drouin.
It's just Jeremy Roenick in his life the whole time.
I think it should just be, Crosby's gym should just have all kinds of clips that would just make him mad.
Mike Milbury saying stuff about him.
Ovechkin scores! Ovechkin scores! Ovechkin scores!
Or I think it was Elliott Friedman that asked.
I don't think he, I don't know if he asked, I don't know how he asked the question because you know how Elliott asks questions.
He's such an eloquent man, and he's able to ask these questions where you're like,
whoa, you are walking a tightrope, sir, but he does it so beautifully.
He does the whoo-hoo.
Yeah, totally.
You've got to look at Elliott's interview with Lou Lamorello last season just to get a sense of that
because Lou's a tough interview.
But I believe it was Elliott or it was David Amber asked Sidney Crosby about Connor McDavid,
and Sidney is very gracious in person, right?
He smiled, he said, yeah, you know, he's a great player, this is really exciting, it's
really exciting that we have so many great young players, but Sidney Crosby's got to
be thinking in the back of his mind, hey, hey, you're still talking to Sidney Crosby
here, okay?
So, I'm just going to, you know, I'm going to take the first five games off, I got this
little headache thing, and then I'm going to come in and destroy things.
Adam, it was six games off.
Oh, six games, my bad.
How dare you?
How dare I?
And how dare I not take the concussion seriously, am I right?
How dare you?
Right?
I want to bring up something about the Pittsburgh Penguins
That I found absolutely fascinating
I messaged Steve and Jesse with this stat
But I think it's amazing
And if you watched any Sportsnet recently
You've seen this
This is the benefit of doing a show with me Adam
I already forgot
So it'll be fresh
It'll be a surprise again
The NHL point leaders for December are as follows
Sidney Crosby
Evgeny Malikin
And
Lay it on me
Justin Schultz
That's so silly
All of the Pittsburgh Penguins.
Totally silly.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
We're used to there being several penguins.
If you told me Sidney Crosby, Evgeny Malkin, Chris Letang,
I wouldn't have batted an eye.
But Chris Letang's hurt.
So now it's Justin Schultz's turn to destroy the world
and make everyone pay.
Which brings me to this.
Dear Edmonton Oilers and fans.
Oh, dear.
Did you know that both of your recent scapegoats
are doing quite well?
Oh, yes.
This is a little love letter from them.
because I would like to, you know, don't look now,
but Minnesota has won 11 straight games.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we heard about Columbus.
Minnesota has won 11 games in a row.
Now, the, okay, go on.
Steve, who is the starting goaltender for the Minnesota North Stars?
Darcy Kemper.
Not Darcy Kemper.
Oh, it's another guy.
It would be Oilers Scrap Heap Revival Project.
I think Devin Dubnik.
That's right.
Devin Dubnik
Just to bug our Oilers fans
I want to give you Devin Dubnik
Even though it's Dubnik
I want to give you his line
Is it Dubnik or Dubnik?
It's Dubnik
I've only been yelled
Had that yelled at my face a thousand times
30 year old Devin Dubnik
Dubnik
From Regina, Saskatchewan
In this particular season
Has played 27 games
He has 18 wins in 27 games
6 losses
3 overtime losses
So he's 18-9, basically.
Jesus.
His goal's against average.
And I know that's not your favorite stat.
It's one of my least, yeah.
1.58.
Wow!
Really?
Yeah.
And I know it's not our favorite stat here,
but that's pretty freaking good.
It's not a great stat because it's not necessarily a great indicator
of Devin Dubnik's skill or how he is as a goalie.
It's more of a team stat.
Yeah.
Yeah, but the Minnesota Wild are not allowing goals.
Holy.
So here's the good goaltending stat that you'll like.
Yes.
Take a wild stab in the dark.
You know, a good goalie in the NHL.
I saw it this morning.
Jesse, wild stab in the dark.
Is it a percentage?
Yeah.
I already know it.
Nah.
All right, fine.
Apparently we are prepared.
Yeah.
A point 9-4-7.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
I was going to say 9-4-1.
9-4-7?
According to NHL.com
And our boy Anderson's on the front page now
Well hang on
Hold off on that
There's more to say
But wait there's more
The sham wow of Dubnickstead
Speaking of Euler's scrap heap revival projects
Justin Scholes
26 years old
He's a right shot D
Get out
I can't believe he's only 26
He's 6'2
Right shot D
26 years old
193 pounds
He seems like
The kind of defenseman
That every NHL team wants
Literally every
Last one of them
He seems like
The kind of NHL defenseman
That
From
His rookie year
He was supposed to be
And it's funny because
If you look at his
Before that
Yeah
The Ducks wanted to keep him
Ahead of Gardner
Wow
So here we go
Ready?
In 37 games
Justin Schultz has
7 goals
16 assists
for 23 points.
Which is incredible.
Only one of those goals, by the way,
and seven of those points
have come on the power play.
Wow.
So of the 23 points,
or of the seven goals,
six are just even strength.
I'd love to know how much of a Crosby factor
there is there.
Well, I think there definitely is.
There has to be.
I mean, it's the Penguins.
It's almost unfair to point that out.
However, let's not ignore
Or the fact that there's a Connor McDavid factor.
Oh, right.
Yes, I see what you're saying.
Because if one compares...
How many games did Schultz play with McDavid?
It couldn't have been more than a handful.
That's true, too.
But Schultz is the defense, right?
Yeah, but you're feeding the puck up the ice.
Yeah, that's strange.
McDavid doesn't really need that because he's so fast.
He just rushes it from blue line to blue line.
You're right.
So I thought, who better to look at on the Edmonton Oilers defense than Adam Larson?
Oh dear
Who is a right shot defenseman
6'3
205 pounds
Oh heavens
24 years old
So he's younger
He's bigger
And he
And he's on
He's got the
Connor McDavid factor
In his
If you got
Sidney Crosby factor
You need the
Connor McDavid factor
Or at very least
The Nuge factor
He has
In 36 games
So one less game
Than Justin
So this isn't a fair comparison
Whoa
Two goals
And four assists
Does Justin Schultz
not seem like the kind of defenseman you'd trade
Taylor Hall for.
Man, there aren't many
defensemen I would trade Taylor Hall for.
You know, what do we
always talk about on the show? What do we talk about?
Patrice O'Neill, rest in peace.
Competent bums. You gotta
get those cheap, cheap players
if you're gonna contend for the cup these
days because the
method is clearly
or at least the trend has
been sign five guys
or so to goofy money
and be smart with the rest.
Yeah.
Be smart with the rest.
It's funny.
You'd think that the salary cap
would have been good for the players, right?
In a certain way.
Because it would have evened out the salary.
Well, we can't give too much to one player
because we've got to give money to the other.
But when in actual fact,
it's widening the gap between have and have not.
I don't know about that.
No, I don't know about that.
But on good teams, it is.
On bad teams, I think you see it a little bit more even.
So here's...
No, hold on.
Hold on.
I'm not done.
Oh, okay.
I'm not done.
Give me this.
The point I was going to make...
Oh, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Was we talked about Connor Sheery, talked about Brian Rust.
You know how much Justin Schultz makes?
How much does Justin Schultz make?
1.4.
Hey, do we know how much Adam Larson makes?
How much?
I don't know.
I was going to ask.
Oh, okay.
Sorry, I'm not usually Jesse with all this.
I happen to have my computer today.
Adam Larson...
Which is probably a bad sign, by the way.
4.166.
You know what?
That's not a terrible contract.
It's not.
And he's not a terrible defenseman.
And I'm not expecting Adam Larson to light up the league.
But what I am saying is Edmonton.
Edmonton.
You know when someone breaks up with you and goes,
it's not you, it's me?
It's definitely you.
And I just want you to imagine how good Connor McDavid would be
if he wasn't playing at Edmonton.
Now...
Are you going to bring up my...
Go ahead.
Would Cam Talbot be the undeniable Vesna winner on every other team?
Possible
He looks good on the Oilers
That poor team, man
That poor fan base
Before we get too smug here in Toronto
They're in the thick of it
Before we get too smug
I would like to bring up one Phil Kessel
Who, if you ask somebody who is a quote-unquote hockey expert
Who quote-unquote covers the team
He was a coach killer.
He was a coach killer.
He never passed the puck.
He never went into the corners, never made any plays,
and definitely never back-checked.
Never took a slap shot.
Nope.
That's one from me.
Garbage in the shootout.
There's another one from me.
Phil Kessel currently is 6th in NHL scoring.
In 37 games, he has 11 goals and 25 assists.
Remember goal scorer Phil Kessel?
Doesn't do anything Phil Kessel.
Loafing, waiting at the blue line Phil Kessel.
25 assists again 25 i i am wrong often often blue jackets often my phil kessel video when he was
traded just nothing but hits nothing but hits man i'm talking about him being an underrated
playmaker here he is so talking about him being great in the playoffs people talk about him he
should have won the con smith oh just nothing but hits phil kessel i just want to say this to you
in edmonton it was you i mean it was us in toronto too but it was more you see i will all the oilers
fans would hate me a little bit no no i'm gonna change that a little bit for the oilers fans okay
here's here's how i bring maybe it was craig mitavich and kevin lowe but whatever exactly
it's it's not you it's not you it's not the fans it's not the players it's them you know what i
mean it's management it's the man it's the man management god i hate the man man oh remember the
uh the stewie it's like oh this is it reminds me of the time i played at woodstock establishment
establishment you always know what's best and he's like he's like playing an acoustic
i might not have seen that oh it's so great so great they all blend together because there's
no plot but and it's funny sometimes exactly um there's a light plot there's a light plot
yeah it's like this show there's a light plot i'm watching rogue one and being like i enjoyed
the light plot hey thoughts on rogue one fantastic damn movie really good jesse's not clapping jesse
that means officially yeah there is at least one good prequel in the star wars series because it
is a prequel it's perfect okay so as someone who's not a huge like a monster fan of the
franchise right i saw all the original star wars once and i like them i like them okay but i wasn't
about to buy all the toys and go all okay you're wrong they were the coolest toys but okay fair
enough saw phantom menace that stunk didn't see episodes two or three as a result uh haven't seen
the new one yet
whatever
The Force Awakens
Rogue One
is such
a good prequel
I understood everything
it set up everything
I know a lot of
hardcore Star Wars fans
were messaging me
like yeah I would have
liked to have seen
more character continuity
that's hardcore Star Wars fans
there's nobody
nobody are harder to please
than hardcore Star Wars fans
and they're even hard
on the original movies
that they fell in love with
they're just
they're obnoxious
for the sake of it
yeah I can't
I don't want to give
anything away
but they don't rely
on characters from the original
trilogy
at all
because they didn't need to
because it's a good story
and the action is wicked too
it's a good movie, great movie, I enjoyed it
wow, Jesse will still not see it
I'm not even going to ask him
but it is pretty sweet
I'm not willing to devote 12 hours of my life
it's 2 hours
I have to see all the Star Wars to get it
no you don't
No, this is the great thing.
Rogue One, I think, is a good enough prequel
that you could ignore the first, well, the second three.
How many movies are there?
Now there are...
Eight.
Eight plus a couple, like, spinoffs.
One spinoff.
Eight.
There are eight movies.
But you don't need to see them all.
I don't need to see any of them.
Skip episode one, two, and three.
You could actually start with Rogue One.
Can I start there?
Yeah, you could start there.
Start with Rogue One.
That's what Mrs. Dangle is doing.
That's what Caprice is doing.
We got home from Rogue One and she turned on A New Hope and watched it start to finish.
And today she's going to do Empire Strikes Back.
Which is considered, I think it was Rolling Stone Entertainment Weekly called it the best movie ever made.
Now, you have to watch it in terms of...
Which, okay.
You have to watch it...
It's good.
Come on.
You have to watch it in terms of 1980 when it was released, right?
Come on.
It beats Scarface.
Which, by the way, isn't that great.
You mean like Godfather?
No, Scarface.
It's not that great.
Godfather isn't that great.
I've never seen Godfather 2
are incredible
number one's a little long
it's a little
there's a lot of scenes
in there that
didn't need to make it
the brave little toaster
rock and doodle
veggie tales
that's a lot of
very wrong opinions
about movies
okay
listen I'm not saying
Scarface is not
worth all the t-shirts
and posters
that are made about it
okay
where do you keep
your Gigli posters
oh my god
every jerk off
on the street
has a stupid
Scarface shirt
and you're like
Okay
The movie was good
The movie was really good
But it wasn't great
It was not
A great
Cinematic masterpiece
I don't remember
Who got this cult following
I don't either
Godfather
Godfather is
A great story
However
There are a lot of scenes
In there that do not
Further the plot
Let's be honest right
Can we be straight about that
Not like Rogue One
Not like
Step Up 4
Step Up to the streets
To the roof
Back to the streets
That's my favorite movie
Step Up 4
Hey back to hockey
for just a second
yeah
I was about to say
what did you want to say
about Edmonton quickly
as we're closing
oh boy
we just want to
basically
this is an
attack on Edmonton
it is
to enrage their fans
I'm sure
I'm going to get
some angry tweets
but the fact of the matter
is hey Edmonton
you guys are doing great
yeah
just
and we're just trying
to bug you a little bit
just in case you think
I'm picking on you
this podcast is dedicated
to the ghosts of Leafs past
pretty much
so we pick on you
for one show
alright
just let us have our fun
Edmonton, by the way, 42 points in 36 games.
They sit second in the Pacific Division right now.
So Edmonton and Connor McDavid have the same amount of points.
Whoa, whoa, in the same amount of games.
And they're three points back of San Jose for top in that division.
Wow.
So there you go.
That's pretty good.
Yeah, you think the Oilers feel bad about Justin Schultz's success?
Nope.
I don't think they're even thinking about it.
Actually, do you want to give an update of the standings?
Because we don't, I don't know.
I feel like we haven't really focused on the standings much this season.
Yeah, because it's hard to focus on the standings early.
But it's not that early anymore, so let's talk about it.
Just real quick, Pittsburgh is winning the Metro, which is incredible.
Who's in the freaking Metro?
I don't know these divisions anymore.
No, but this is what's so crazy about this division.
Pittsburgh, 53 points in 37 games, so they're leading.
Columbus, 52 points, just one point behind.
Every time I hear Columbus, I hear Steve Harvey going,
Colombia!
I have to apologize.
Oh, I was like,
well, I don't know
what you're talking about.
Columbus has played
four fewer games
than Pittsburgh, though.
And they're only
one point behind.
Wow.
So they're, I mean...
Winning gets you points.
It's crazy.
Yeah, they're not
technically in first,
but they are in first.
Can we just quickly
mention something here?
Everybody's talking about
reformed John Tortorella.
Oh, he's a very nice man.
He's reformed.
He's changed his ways.
No, he hasn't.
He's just winning.
Yeah.
No, he hasn't.
If they were losing,
John Tortorella
would be John Tortorella.
We always praise Stan Bowman
for his moves to get cheap players
to make his teams better.
In Chicago, we always praise Jim Rutherford.
Speaking of which, we need to talk about them later.
Yeah, of course.
We praise Jim Rutherford.
We just did it again.
Columbus completely revamped their fourth line
and it actually had a giant impact on the team.
They've also had Vezna quality goaltending.
Yes, they've had Vezna quality goaltending,
but a few teams have.
And they're all really good teams.
Montreal, Minnesota
Of course
Columbus
New York
Those are the best I think
I think rumors of New York's demise
Have been greatly exaggerated
They're third in the Metro
It's so weird when you've got
Two really good goaltenders
That your team would do well
And the two wild cards
Also Metro teams
Of course
The Capitals and the Flyers
The only team that looks like
They might drop out
Is the Flyers
But I mean probably not
And poor Carolina
Having a decent season
37 points in 34 games
But they're in that damn division
They're not getting it
No
Unless they get real hot
Or the Flyers
And someone drop off
The Atlantic now
Montreal on top
47 points
The party division
Yeah, yeah
Ottawa just four points behind
With 43
Wow
Now it gets interesting
Because people keep talking about
Ottawa dropping off
Haven't seen it yet
Haven't seen it yet
So until it happens
I think it
I mean, I think at this point
Yeah
It might be time to start considering that they're kind of for real.
Mike Condon's pretty good.
Well, right now, anyway.
Here's an interesting one.
The team that is third in the Atlantic right now is 3-5-2 in their last 10.
It's the Boston Bruins.
40 points in 37 games.
They're doing better than I thought they would have.
Oh, yeah.
Behind them, nipping at their heels.
Tampa Bay with 39 points in 36 games.
So in one fewer game, Tampa only has one fewer point.
One less point, whatever.
The Leafs
Right behind Tampa
With 37 points
Two points back of Tampa
Three points back of Boston
In just 34 games
Two points less
Or sorry
Two games less than Tampa
Three less than Boston
So tonight's game
Is pretty important
It's enormous
Now is Boston only in that spot
Because of Tampa's injuries
Or is that Tampa's
You know
They didn't
They didn't have a goalie
For like a couple weeks
Boston
No Boston
Tampa even with Bishop out
Still has Vasilevsky
Boston
In fact I would
I would argue that
Vasilevski is the better option now
you know honestly
what I saw
I know I saw a very injured team
when I went and saw Tampa
and by the way for Christmas
I got more tickets
I'm going to go see Tampa
in Nashville next week
next week
nice
I
in Nashville?
no no in Tampa
I'm going back to Florida next week
oh yeah
Adam has a wicked life
no the
what's frustrating is that
is that you see a team
that's very very good
even with the injuries
but they
have not put it together this season. They've
been discombobulated. I think the Stamkos
thing, as it would any team, really hurt
them, but I think it shook their confidence as well.
And I don't see the same, I didn't see the same
confidence in Mike Smith as I did,
I'm sorry, Ben Bishop, as I did with
Andre Vasilevsky. As soon as they put
Vasilevsky in when I was there, they looked like a better
team. I don't know. Tampa
better pull it together, because they are way
better than their record shows. Let's chew
through the East real quick. Florida, poor, poor
Florida. In the 14
or 15 games,
since Gerard Galancon fired only four wins.
But I think the stat was, in their last 14 games,
they have points in 11 of them.
I think it was.
They just keep losing in overtime in the shootout, the poor bastards.
Yeah, they have like nine points in the 14 games.
It's ridiculous, yeah.
Like, they're not doing that poorly.
I mean, what I've heard people doing, though,
what I've heard people doing is they take both types of losses
And they combine them
And they say that's their record
You can't do that anymore guys
It's dishonest
You get half a point for a loss
When it's an overtime of the shootout
That's how the standings work
Sorry
You can't say they're 4 and 11
Or whatever it is
Or 4 and whatever
Islanders are above 500 in their last 10
So they're climbing up a tiny bit
Buffalo down near the bottom
Detroit way down near the bottom
Don't worry they'll make the blast
Don't worry
Oh yeah for sure
Oh they'll find a way
And New Jersey
Dead last in the east
I would not have called that
I wouldn't have either
I honestly
They were without Hall
For like a month though
Yeah I
I have to say
I
I think New Jersey's better
Than what their record's showing to
Well
And another thing though
Like
New Jersey's got
33 points
And
Tampa
One point out of the playoffs
Has
39
So they're
They're three wins away
From being Tampa
Yeah
But that is a big gap
Well
At this point in the season though
I don't know
Maybe not
I don't know
Here, I read a stat this morning that I thought was interesting.
Besides Montreal and Ottawa,
what is the Canadian team with the best winning percentage?
Besides who?
Montreal and Ottawa?
Yeah.
Edmonton.
It's got to be Edmonton.
Apparently it's Toronto.
Oh, what?
I don't know how that's possible,
but that's why I thought I'd bring it up.
Because...
Oh yeah, Myrtle had something today about the Leafs.
If you just go on points percentage,
are a playoff team.
Gosh, I wish that's how it worked.
Wish that's how it worked, James, but it's not.
In the West, the Central Division, Chicago 1, Minnesota 2, St. Louis 3.
Chicago and Minnesota really separating themselves from the pack.
49 and 48 points to St. Louis's 43.
In the Pacific, San Jose, Edmonton, Anaheim.
The wild card.
Remember when the Flames sucked?
Remember?
I don't think I do.
Well, they are in the top wild card spot right now.
Good for them.
with 40 points la in the last one with 38 uh dallas who i could have swore sucked like two
seconds ago is only one point back of that final wild card spot winnipeg in there nashville in
there vancouver dropping off a bit and then arizona and colorado are absolutely hopeless
there are really two teams that are completely out of it right now that's it in the west i'd
say that's in the league are those the only two i would say they're the only two teams to have
not reached 30 points. What about Buffalo and Detroit?
Yeah. Like, no. Buffalo and Detroit
are not making the playoffs. Oh. But
they're six points
back. Fun fact. Yeah, you're right. Okay. Last time
Detroit drafted in the top 10.
Ooh, good
question. Nicholas Lindstrom.
Was it Iserman?
No. No. Iserman
was a while ago. Yes. No, he was a very long
time ago. That was like 86, I think they drafted.
Top 10. I thought Lindstrom was like
1990. He was a very long time ago, yeah.
89 or 90.
Maybe 91.
God, they were the dead wings in the 80s,
and then they, in the early 90s, started to really pick it up.
And through the mid-90s, Push got eliminated,
Push got eliminated, Push got eliminated,
then won their couple cups.
I would imagine it was 91, 92?
Man, I don't know.
Do you have the answer?
1991.
Wow.
Martine Lapointe.
Martin.
No, Martin.
Martine Lapointe.
Martine.
Martine Lapointe.
Martine Geyer.
He's a
Come on
Yeah 1991's
Last time Detroit
Ratings
Drafted in the top 10
That's pretty
Probably gonna change
Wow
This year
That's a great compliment
To the organization
Yeah
That they were able
To sustain for that long
Good for them
Out of what I said
What's the biggest surprise?
What's the biggest surprise
So far?
The biggest surprise
In the
Well I mean
I think Calgary's resurgent
Do you mean West
Or the NHL?
Anywhere
Parity
Columbus
Parity?
I think the fact
That there are that many teams
That are still
within striking distance.
Because if you look at Columbus, look at Columbus 10 games ago, right?
They're not in the position they're in.
Now, I'm not saying there's going to be many other teams
that go on 10-game winning streaks,
although we have had two teams this year, which I think is rare.
However, if you look at 10 games from now,
they could look completely different,
and I think that's what's so cool about it.
It's also manufactured parity, which I don't like at all,
because the shootout and the OT loss point sets up parity.
It's unfair to these teams who are actually winning these games
Usually win streaks
Don't last
Losing streaks are the same
New Jersey, for being last in the East
We talked about how they're
Really not quite out of it though
In their last 10, 1-8-1
Terrible
But they're not going to stay that way
There is not a single dead team in the East
That's cool
Yeah, it's because the East is like
Is it cool?
or is it because you remember like the great teams you don't want every year to be have a
different champion right but that's not taking away from the fact that pittsburgh is still great
you know it's funny i do see a trend in the shootout for the teams that aren't in the
playoffs right now tampa's two and two leaser one and five carolina two and four florida three and
five islanders one and two buffalo one and five new jersey i'm skipping a team is two and two
How bad is Detroit
That they are second last in the East
One point out of last in the East
And they are 5-0
In the shootout
They're bad
They're pretty bad
Uh oh SpaghettiOs
I think they might be in trouble
I think they'll trade the last 25 years
For this season
Yeah
Honestly
It's like
They were due
They were due
I've had some Red Wings fans
Get in my mentions
Like oh man
Now I know how you feel
I'm like how dare you speak to me
No you don't
How dare you speak to me?
I should block you for that.
Unless you were a 20-year-old in the 80s
and saw that train wreck of the Detroit team,
you don't know.
No, but you got therapy called a dynasty forever.
Yeah.
You should feel better about it.
A dynasty that was followed up by a second dynasty.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
The biggest surprise is to me,
I think Jesse nailed it with Columbus.
I think you nailed it with Calgary.
And beyond that...
Minnesota's got to be a surprise too.
It's a surprise that they're that good.
Yeah, I mean, we expected them to be a playoff team.
Yeah, I guess.
But not as high up as they are.
I mean, we expected a fringe, you know, 6-7-8 is what I mean by fringe.
But I don't think, yeah, they were expected to be fringe, but not bad.
We expected Columbus to be bad.
And they're one of the best, if not the best.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
Recency bias, though.
I'm trying to teach myself.
Because there was a time where I couldn't picture the Habs losing this season.
I actually couldn't picture it.
Are you saying you could picture the Habs losing?
Well, now I've seen it.
We'll get to that.
Oh.
When the Steve Angle Podcast returns next.
Hey, you want to start the second segment reading some standings again?
Sure.
Do we?
Cricket standings.
Yeah.
What place in...
Do the men's Canadian soccer team hold?
I think it's 156th in the world.
Defo.
No, I think they're in the top 75.
No, we're not.
Oh, we're not?
No.
Oh, boy.
Oh, Canada?
Yeah.
Jesse's going to look that up.
What, Sandy, did you want to talk about?
I remember years ago they were tied for 99th with Belize.
The Marlies have played...
That was back when I Belized in them.
I had to, I'm sorry.
Adam, how could you?
It's still Christmas time.
Oh, my God.
Current men's world soccer rankings.
Federation rankings.
Blah.
What do you think?
What is it?
I'm going to say 90th.
69th.
117
and our women's soccer team
is like in the top 5
yeah
they're unreal
Christine Sinclair
the Marlies have played
29 games
in the American Hockey League
what do you think
their record is
oh
I don't think it's that good
oh it's worse
than not that good
so I would say
they're about 500
they are one game below
500
that is interesting
and I remember
so I haven't been
watching all their games but i've been keeping tabs every single game and i remember being like
i haven't heard many wins recently and then mark uk leaf who is a great twitter follow from
the uk follows the marlies he was like oh the marlies uh just fell below 500 and i go what
begging your pardon sir uh they are 13 14 1 and 1 so 13 14 and 2 i don't know why the ahl displays
it like that uh we do talk about the marlies every single show much to the dismay of uh fans
of teams other than the leafs i'm sorry you're listening to a leaf centric podcast i don't i
don't i don't i don't feel bad uh that is super concerning well okay now hold up is it concerning
yeah no no is it is no think about it really honestly here okay no no no i was bringing
I'm up for later.
I'm just a second.
I'm just close.
Not fully.
Not fully.
I don't want to be disrespectful.
Eyes on me for a second.
No, I don't want to do that.
Go here.
I'll throw it, too.
I'll throw it.
No, that's the LFR computer.
We can't have that.
That's true.
Steve, we don't have this year.
Like, last year, they loaded the Marlies.
They loaded the team with studs.
And I think that a lot of questionable goaltending was made up for by the fact that they could
outscore you.
But the Marlies always had last year
An issue that the Leafs have this year
Which is locking it down
I mean what was their game
They were down like 8-1
And then they came back and won in overtime
A 10 goal game that was close
They were losing 8-4
After 2
And they won it 9-8 in overtime
Garrett Sparks came in
Relief of Antoine Bebo
And
Faced 3 shots
In the 3rd period in overtime
And got the win
yeah that's so this is a problem that the that that Marley's team has had and it's carried over
and now they don't have the goal scoring to keep up with it and I think that's the problem I also
think that they you know what quite honestly I don't think Sparks who is who I believe is still
suspended uh I don't think so oh they didn't no he's not they never they never made the announcement
they unsuspended him and Antoine Bebo I don't think they're that consistent well let me give
you this uh here are their goalies by safe percentage there are two goalies tied for the
best safe percentage with 917 Jeff Glass who I think they had on a either an ATO or a PTO
but he only played two games Garrett Sparks 917 encouraging seven games that's all Bebo 908 in 16
games and Roth 889 but in just one game and Kerry Rommel by the way remember that little chestnut
0-3 with an 8-80
save percentage.
They've had a real hard time
stopping the puck.
And the very fact
that all those guys have played goal for
the Marlies last year, when I think maybe three
total did last year, just
goes to show that they're not getting the consistent
goaltending that they need.
I don't think it's a reflection
on any individual prospect in that
team. I think that that is a very flawed
team. No, I mean,
Well, they lost Sosh.
They did battle some injuries.
They've lost Fraze now.
They've lost Gauthier.
And then you've got a bunch of young defensemen.
You don't have Nylander anymore.
It's a very young defense corps.
Yeah, no Nylander.
Travis Dermott has taken his...
It's taken him some time to adjust.
And he's got injured, too,
so that interrupted the adjustment.
Leipzig has slowed down a little bit.
Kapanen has slowed down a little bit.
I think they'll be okay,
but yeah, just for every show
where I'm like,
they're great!
no right now
the prospects are great
the team might not be
and that's
I think that's fair
yeah
I think it's a better
situation than
like 2012
when the Marlies
went all the way
to the Calder Cup final
with a team
that was like
like a fair
chunk of the team
was like
24, 25 and up
and Ben Scrivens
was their goalie
you know
like in his mid 20s
like I mean
it's good
it's great
and everything
but like Mike Zygomanis
is like one of your
leading scorers
and all that
it's not exactly
the way you want
on your developmental team.
Mm-hmm.
A little concerning, though.
A little bit.
A little bit.
A little bit.
We'll see if they figure it out.
I want to talk about
the Leafs' win in Florida
last night in Sunrise.
So, Mitch Marner.
I believe he had eight shots.
Nine.
Nine shots.
Wow.
Nine shots.
Mitch, the Mitch-ician Marner.
13th forward, Mitch Marner.
Yeah, ridiculous, right?
So, he wins it in the shootout.
Mm-hmm.
And beyond the fact that he was all over the place all game in a good way.
If the Leafs release Mitch Marner to the World Juniors,
do the rest of the teams just drop their sticks and surrender?
Yeah.
It's over.
All right.
It's over.
We had a good run.
Yeah, it's over.
We're going back to Denmark.
He has been.
Going into this season,
name the prospects in order that you would have been excited about on the Leafs.
Well, that's why I did my pyramid, the prospect pyramid.
Matthews, number one, easily.
And then I had
Marner and Nylander
About even
And then I mean
There's a whole
Another tier
Below those guys
Those are the big three
I call them the big three
But then you had
Connor Brown
Sure Connor Brown
But like I didn't put him
Up with Marner
I would have gone
And I would have said this
I like Hyman
But I didn't put him
Up there with Marner
Austin Matthews
William Nylander
Mitch Marner
I probably would have
Given Nylander the edge
Over Marner yeah
And that's probably
A recency bias
It's probably because
He's played
Men's league for two years
Yeah there's one guy
You know can play
At the pro level
And another guy
You're not sure yet
I have been
Blown away
With Mitch Marner's
Play this year
So good
Absolutely blown away
Like Austin Matthews
Because he was so hyped
It was almost like
Well yeah
I hope he's good
Like
Yeah see
I didn't think
I still didn't think
He'd be this good
No
I actually think
I was waiting for the papers
In Toronto to turn on him
Immediately and go
Wow boy did we screw up
You know like
I was waiting for that
storyline to come out. What did we say
before the season? Because I think we had the conversation
how many points do we think
Matthews is going to get? I'd love to know.
I probably said around 40.
I think I was probably 40 or 50. He's already
well over halfway there.
I have a question. 26, 27,
28 points, I think.
With 20-20 hindsight,
would you trade Marner
for Wierenski straight up?
No.
Even though that's exactly what you need.
Well, okay, hindsight 20-20, but
We had this conversation before, too.
I think if you knew you were going to get Matthews first overall,
you consider it.
You consider it.
You know what I would have done?
I would have drafted Travis Konechny when I had the chance.
But you got Dermott, Bracco, and Dirkhaus.
And Matanen, who never gets mentioned, but whatever.
Okay, fair.
Fair.
I mean, it's a hard...
We'll have to see with Dermott and Bracco.
I think they're great.
I mean I think they're going to be both great players
I just think
You have
Imagine Konechny with
Matthews, Nylander, Marner
Cause you could have had that
You could have had that
Yeah hindsight 2020
You get Konechny
And Wierenski
In the same first round
But you don't know that
I wouldn't trade Mitch Marner
Here's why
Here's why I love
The Mitch Marner story
How Toronto are we right now
I know
It's obnoxious
But can we talk
The reason I like the Mitch Marner thing
Is that he's from here
and I know that's very
Don Cherry of me
but I do like the fact
I love the idea
because I grew up
wanting this
I love the idea
of a local kid
playing on this team
and doing well
I just do
it's not just that
I'm not sure
who Connor Brown
cheered for
Zach Hyman was a Leafs fan
through and through
I love that
and yeah
we've heard
there's just been
too many sad stories
Frank Corrado was still
on the Leafs
so okay
we'll give him that benefit
but like Peter Holland's gone
and like that guy
loved the Leafs
Love the Leafs a lot.
It's so nice that there is not just a good contributor,
a star, a future star of this team, Mitch Marner.
Star of this league.
Star of this league.
Okay, when the Leafs hopefully eventually do the damn thing,
if Mitch Marner gets the winner, isn't that better?
Isn't that a little bit better for no logical reason whatsoever?
it's just better
it just feels better
you guys are forgetting
about Kadri
the original
who grew up as a
Habs fan though
did he?
yes he did
oh I didn't know that
yes he did
two man two
yeah yeah
he grew up a Habs fan too
what a shame
yeah
the Adams people
yeah
why are you in on this
conversation
what are you doing
by the way
the anti-french comments
on my Instagram account
are starting to worry
people okay
but they're hilarious
well
They're borderline xenophobic, okay?
So we gotta chill a little bit.
People don't understand.
Adam is important.
That's not the case.
Important people monitor his social accounts
and they're like,
what is this about your friend's pee-pee?
What is this about French fashion comments?
Who is Dowdy?
Oh yeah, who's Dowdy and why?
He didn't deserve to win what?
Yeah, who's Dowdy and what's Norris?
Well, you see, I have a podcast where...
Yeah, it's hard to...
And they're certainly not gonna listen to a podcast to fact check,
so they just go, oh.
No, because you start the sentence with,
well I have a podcast
and they tune you out.
So
yes
yeah they just ignore you
and go record a Lays commercial.
Yes
exactly.
Last night also
Nylander scored
for the second game in a row
and
was a great shot
and then
Kadri's goal
the goal that I guess
was JVR had
it was JVR's goal
that
Kadri
was playing hockey
and
the goal was called back.
I am trying to
figure out
where that game ranks
among the worst
officiated games
Do you think Panthers fans would agree?
Maybe.
Maybe.
See, because like...
Like is it a Toronto bias thing?
I can look at the Leafs getting a penalty.
Sorry, I can look at the Leafs getting a power play.
And if it's garbage, I say it's garbage.
Yeah.
I'll tweet it.
I'll be like, LOL.
You know, I won't be mad about it.
I won't be outraged about it because, I mean, it did benefit my team.
But I will acknowledge that it's a crap call.
The goaltender...
It wasn't goaltender interference.
Kadri touched him, but...
Okay, what I said in the video today,
what is goaltender interference?
I think it's when you interfere with the goaltender.
Yes.
Now, is interference classified as intentional?
I'm not sure it matters.
Like, okay, if you get shoved into the goalie, it matters.
Well, then intention matters.
Intention does matter, but I'm not talking about Kadri here.
I'm not talking about Kadri on this play.
Because I think there's enough benefit of the doubt
where you could say he did or didn't mean to.
It's, did Luongo have a chance to make the save?
I think the answer is yes,
and he dove out of the way of the thing.
Jesse, do you have that video up?
I can pull it up.
He was going the opposite direction of where JVR shot the puck,
which, dare I say, might be why JVR shot it there.
Luongo, if Kadri never existed, would not have stopped that puck.
Wouldn't have stopped it.
I think that should count.
I think that should count.
It doesn't matter what Kadri did.
Goaltender interference is when you interfere with the goalie.
So if Luongo literally skates out of his net and dives,
but someone clips him on the way out of the net.
Let's say he temporarily lost his mind and started skating to the bench,
but someone clipped him
and someone takes a shot
on the goal
from in the blue paint
is that goaltender
interference
what is that
what is that
hey you interfered
with the goaltender
yeah but it had
no effect
on the shot
yeah but you interfered
with the goaltender
I think intention
has to matter
I think intention
does matter
and I think you have to
if
I think Kadri matters
yeah
this is now the second time
Kadri has barely
touched a goalie
and it got called back
and his penalty
differential
this year
I think I saw
was minus seven he's usually among the lead league leaders in that category the the refs the officials
around this league have it out for Nazem Kadri call it what it is okay now is that have it out
for him because he has a history fine no no yeah but it's one thing to not give him the benefit of
the doubt it's another to it's unfair it's completely unfair what they're doing to him
You can do whatever you want to this guy
You talk about the one game where he was bumping McDavid around
You can do whatever you want to Kadri
And he can't do a damn thing
Well
Okay
If you know a player
Is a diver
And an excellent, excellent penalty drawer
As Kadri is
And I don't mean to use
What are you supposed to do?
Embellisher
Call it what it is
What are you as an official supposed to do?
You will have a bias against that
And you will have video meetings about that
I mean these guys
I feel bad for the officials
Because literally it is such a tough
Tough sport to do
I want to be in those meetings when they discussed
William Nylander being a diver
Because apparently he is too
That to me was the worst call of the game
That was shocking
There were three genuinely bad ones
The goal getting called back
The interference call on JVR
Was horrifying
horrifying call
and the dive on Nylander
I don't know what to
like
I was contemplating
tweeting match fixing
during the third period that's how bad it got
the ref was in
front of him
in front of him getting mugged by a guy
half a foot taller than him
he didn't trip
didn't do the shoulder shimmy that Kadri does
he got thrown to the ice
I really don't know what he could have done.
Jesse, what is this?
So this is the Kadri play.
This is the Kadri play.
Now we'll post this online.
He was going the opposite direction.
Like, do refs...
Yeah, do refs ask themselves
why the player shot it there?
You gotta.
Why did the player shoot it there?
Maybe that's the meeting they're having today.
Maybe.
Well, and that ref, that official there
Who made that call
At center ice
If I remember correctly
That was his 48th NHL game
Okay
We know that because of
Scoutingtherefs.com
And I don't want to say him by name
Because people are like
Don't start a witch hunt
Or whatever
I'm not starting a witch hunt
I'm merely pointing out
Look you can point out
The Leafs young mistakes
This guy hasn't been in the league
That long
And called a terrible game
Okay
Called a terrible damn game
It's not his first for the Leafs
I would imagine
And it is
Listen
especially the Cadre goal
quite obvious
that he got it wrong
but the fact that
they reviewed it
that was what I was
going to get to
they reviewed it
so that
if I'm a general manager
I want to take
to the next GM meetings
what exactly
goaltender interference
means
because I don't think
I can't put that
on the ref
because they've been
very wishy-washy
about it
there have been goals
that have gone on
in Freddie Anderson
and I'm like
wait a second
so if you touch
Anderson at all
is it a goal?
How do you figure this out?
Do you make it one person?
So that it's consistent?
I think it's the interpretation of the rule.
I think just because he touched him, they didn't have a choice but to call it.
It wasn't that he interfered with the goalie intentionally or not.
It was just that's how you got to interpret the rule.
Longo didn't have a chance to make a save.
I agree, because he put himself in a bad position.
I think the NHL, with its rules, needs to be a little bit more clear.
And I think they put their refs in a rough situation,
because that was very clearly a goal.
And then they bring it back to Toronto, which is where they review everything.
And then it's reviewed, and they're like, yeah, well, sorry.
I don't know.
Hockey is a physical game.
There are bumping things that happen.
When you look at something like that,
to me, it just looked like you bumped him a little bit.
And if you take that out, what's the point?
I still say the Nylander one's the worst
because the Kadri one,
we're having a discussion about it and we go, maybe.
The JVR one, okay, bumped into him, so maybe.
The dive was abysmal.
And it was right in front of the guy.
Right in front of him.
What did you think of the breakaway, the shootout?
Or not the shootout.
Connor Carrick, the Seth Griffith-Connor Carrick one?
No, no, no, you're thinking of Malgan.
We're giving the penalty shot.
Malgan got the penalty shot.
But it wasn't that he got the penalty shot.
Wait, what are you talking about here?
So in last night's game, Malgan, I forget his first name.
I keep wanting to say Kenny.
Right, right.
Sorry.
He got a penalty shot, but it was right after, I think it was JVR had a breakaway?
Or no, Marner.
Yeah, it was the Marner breakaway.
Or was it JVR?
No, it was JVR and Colton Sevier dove, and so he slashed at JVR, causing him to let go
of his stick.
People were saying he threw it.
I don't think he intentionally threw it.
But if your stick comes out of your possession, like at what point do you just call it throwing
the thing?
Yeah.
Which would make it a penalty shot, and he didn't get one, and it was like less than
five minutes later, Leafs got one, and luckily it didn't win the Panthers the game.
It was just a mess.
It was a mess of a game.
It made me not even enjoy the thing
I was mad after they lost
Sorry, after they won
They had to win just to break even
He's used to saying after they lost
They had to win to break even for me emotionally
You know what I mean?
It was trash
And during a game it's not like you're normally an emotional guy
Oh boy
It's gotten worse
It's not getting better as I get older
It's getting worse
There's hope now
There's hope now.
Everything.
I'm screaming all the time.
Tonight's game in Tampa should be very, very interesting.
Tampa has Kucherov back.
The Twins, or sorry, the Triplets looked great last night.
However, they got a few injuries, and they did just beat Montreal.
They did.
A comeback victory, too.
I think it was 3-1.
And Montreal can be beaten.
It is.
Tell me about Carey Price in the last 10 games.
Oh, where's that little, where's that tweet that I got?
So what was the Leafs' biggest storyline?
Freddie Anderson in the first—I know where you're going with this.
Freddie Anderson in October.
Oh, boy, he's just not playing great.
Not a good goalie.
I can't believe they signed him to five years.
Man, his weaknesses are really exposed now that he doesn't have the Anaheim defense in front of him.
Absolutely.
By the way, how good would Anaheim be if Freddie Anderson was still an Anaheim duck?
Can people hear that?
Yeah, I think so.
I think they'd be pretty good.
I think they'd be pretty—
I think they'd be Stanley Cup contenders.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, my God.
Carlisle returns to Anaheim, gets his second cup.
Oh, can you imagine?
Oh, God.
It's a good thing Anaheim had just about the worst offseason in the NHL this year.
It's a really good thing.
I'm trying to remember what they did.
Bruce Boudreaux.
Oh.
Just that alone.
Oh, just that alone.
Yeah, let's fire the head coach and not have a backup plan.
Oh, boy.
One of the winningest regular season head coaches.
They beat Minnesota in the conference final.
So, this comes from oak underscore leafs.
Glad Freddy came around after going 5-2-3 with a 9-0-2 save percentage
in his first 10 games.
So did you hear that?
Yeah.
Freddy's first 10 games, 9-0-2 save percentage,
which is only a bit better than Price's 5-3-2 8-9-8 save percentage
in his last 10 games.
So recently, Anderson's first 10 games where everyone was calling him
a bust and a bum, were better than Carey Price's last 10.
Tell me about Freddie Anderson recently.
I don't have the exact stats in front of me, but I can tell you he's a 9-2-5 goalie now.
He's a top 10 goalie in safe percentage now.
Which is, what did we say?
We need a goalie who is 15th or better.
Well, I would have been happy with 15th.
That's bang league average.
Woo!
Good.
Let's go league average.
15th or better.
Oh, yeah.
I love it.
I think Freddie Anderson is way better than anyone anticipated.
I didn't expect him to be this good.
And I didn't...
No, that was quite clear.
You made that very clear this summer.
Shut up!
No, look.
If you take out the first...
Forget the first ten.
You take out the first five games,
which, by the way, includes a game where he allowed seven goals.
I don't remember if it was LA or Tampa.
Tampa, I was there.
Oh, I think it was Tampa.
Oh, yeah, they left him in for the whole thing.
If you take out those first five games
He's in the Vesna conversation
No question
He's in there with Dubnik
He's in there with Price
He's in there with Bobrovsky
And the Leafs are in the playoffs
If you take out the first five games
Oh my god
Like not just
Comfortable
Just
Yeah they're comfortably
In a playoff spot
They're not just leapfrogging Boston
And then the Chicago game
And the Jets game
And all these
The New Jersey game
Ah the Chicago game
And by the way
now that the Leafs
have strung together
a few wins
and we keep bringing up
those three games
how many points
out of the playoffs
are the Leafs?
Uno, dos, tres
drives me up a wall
with that
we're going to leave you
on the
on air portion
of the Steve D'Angelo podcast
on Sportsnet 590 The Fan
I'm going to do this
in a golf way
we're going to
leave you
but when we come back
we're going to talk about
the Blackhawks
and how they plan on
paying Artemi Pernarin
I mean I know they signed him
but how the heck
are they going to keep him
under that cap?
I don't know
plus we'll be giving away
tickets to the Montreal Jazz Festival?
Steve's handicap
is a minus four today.
That's great.
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I couldn't...
I don't know why I decided to do that.
I couldn't remember the full SNL thing. And doggone it,
people like me.
That's all I was thinking when you did that voice.
So, let's talk about the Chicago Blackhawks.
Artemi Panarin
Bread man
Two year
12 million dollar extension
Which kicks in next year
According to Cap Friendly
Chicago has
66.6 million dollars
In cap space
Committed to 15 players
For next season
What is the salary cap
Gentlemen
Right now
Non-existent
If you're the Blackhawks
72 and a half
73
I think it's 73 on the money
73 million dollars
So that means
You need
So 15 players
So for
You need
They have like 6 million
To sign like
A line and a half
Something like that
Hey
You know what
The Blackhawks
Are like
Every
You're gonna have to play
Every player
About 750 grand
Oh dude
The Blackhawks
Are every great
Like
Late 90s
Early 2000s
College party movie
oh man we have this problem ahead of us who cares
and then oh no the test is tomorrow and around the trade deadline they have a montage of studying
really hard and then will ferrell and everyone they learn how to twirl the baton
and they debate the guy from cnn and they win
And they win
Their every great
Late 90s
Early 2000s
College movie
Doesn't matter
We're creating problems
For ourselves tomorrow
But for now
We're the Blackhawks
So weee
Cares
Oh they got a
Six million dollar extension
Kicking in next year
That sounds like
Next year's problem
For now
Let's enjoy being
The Blackhawks
They are the embodiment
Of YOLO
Like really
Oh yeah
They are
Yeah
They are old school
They're old school
The movie
What?
I think KFC's still open.
When?
Okay.
Do you have cat-friendly open?
Anybody have cat-friendly open?
I am on the Blackhawks right now.
Marion Host.
How much money does he make?
Oh, baby.
Wow, that's actually not a great deal.
He's 5'2", 7'5".
For how much longer?
This season.
And the season after.
And the season after.
And after.
And after.
But not-
What?
He's got four seasons after this one.
None of that matters when he's on Robida Island.
Or when he-
I don't know.
Is he going to retire?
But then-
How old is he?
because he's 37
then if he retires
it counts against the cap
but he doesn't have to
retire
who cares
who cares
we
it doesn't matter
why would they sign him
through to 41
are they insane
because three cups
we
because Stanley Cups
are plugging their ears
yeah
they have more
Stanley Cups
than they have ears
to plug
they got one up the nose
yeah
but for fun
as a decoration
they got a
they got a Stanley Cup
spacer
through the septum
you know what I bet
you know what they're
going to do right
You know what they're going to do?
Hossa is going to be an Arizona Coyote next year.
Or the year after that.
Adam, how?
They're going to trade their first round pick to Arizona
along with Hossa, and that deal will happen.
The how or why literally doesn't matter, Adam.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks.
Whee!
By the way, you know who else has an extension that kicks in next year?
Actually, no, sorry, I think it just kicked in this year.
Brent Seabrook.
Oh, boy.
6.875!
Woo-hoo!
Until the end of time
His contract
Until the end of time
And isn't his play
A little bit in decline
That nobody's talking
Nobody's talking about it
Uh
Dimitri Filipovich
I think was tweeting
About that yesterday
But Adam
Cops man
Wee
It doesn't matter
Brian Campbell's
Making 1.5 million dollars
Until he becomes a UFA
And signs for like
Five dollars
Because he doesn't care
He just wants to win
Wee
He made his money
Mmhmm
Made his money
Wee
Wee
and they have all these rookies.
Oh my God.
Like Richard Ponick.
Richard Ponick is an RFA.
And here are the two options
Richard Ponick has.
Sign a cheap deal with Chicago.
Go somewhere else.
That's all you're getting in Chicago.
And Richard Ponick
is signing in Chicago.
He is.
Of course he is.
Andrew Desjardins
is an unrestricted free agent.
Jordan Tutu is an unrestricted free agent.
He'll probably go.
Tanner Kiro.
Who is this person?
He's probably on their first line.
Probably.
we should play
who is that person
I've never heard of that person
Blackhawk or normal person
we should play that
Blackhawk or
Denny's employee
Blackhawk or
suggested friend on Facebook
Tanner Kiro plays in the WHO
his name's Tanner
I don't know
Dennis Rasmussen
RFA
but like
all their problems
who's Gustav Forsling
I've heard of Gustav Forsling
I've heard of him
I mean how do you forget a name
once you've heard it
like that
Gustav Forsling
that is a name
You know what's going to hurt them a little bit?
They've gotten really good
Goaltending out of Scott Darling
For
I thought league minimum was 600 grand
He's making 587 thousand dollars
Because
Because why?
Because
Whee!
The Blackhawks!
Somehow they were able to knock
15 grand off his salary
They got Nick Schmaltz
Oh, you know who they have signed to a contract?
And they can just plug in?
Alex Dabrinkat
Oh
Is that all?
Now
Alex Dabrinkat
Not of world
Junior championship fame
Absolutely
The interesting thing there
Oh
Hey
You know who comes off the cap
After this season
Rob Scuderi
Oh
So they'll save some money there
They retain 1.1
Yeah
Which will help them
We
The Blackhawks
Are hilarious
They are
They're
Stan Bowman man
Stan Bowman
You know how many
You can swear now
It's okay
Oh yeah
Holy fuck
Then
You know how many picks
They have in this
Upcoming draft
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
They have 10
Including all of their own
They have all of their own
That's unbelievable
3 5th rounders
And 2 6th
So I mean
The extra ones they have
Are in the 5th and 6th round
But that's when
the Blackhawks draft
Andrew Shaw
and then trade him
for two seconds
because we
and Brandon Saad
and Brandon Saad
was in the second round
yeah but whatever
small correction
they don't have
their own seventh
so
oh you're right
it's the Ducks seventh
yeah
so
they're screwed
Stan Bowman
idiot
Steve
boo
boo
no that's still we
I think that's
I don't know
I think that's pretty
unbelievable
they should be
out of draft picks
at this point
It doesn't make sense.
Oh, but they're missing a second round pick in 2018.
So, like, I don't know.
Their future's not looking bright.
Whee!
It's so stupid.
I hate this team.
Like, it's not fair!
There will be a time, several years from now,
when the Blackhawks are not good anymore.
There will be a time.
Yes.
I don't know, man.
I don't know!
Okay, you got Seabrook signed at the end of time.
You got Hossa signed at the end of time.
Do they have no movements?
Yeah.
Both of them?
And Isimov, too.
Half their team has no move.
So, then you've got Taze and Kane.
Taze and Tane.
The funny thing is going to be the expansion draft
when Vegas comes and they go to Chicago.
Here, we're taking this player,
and Chicago goes,
Oh, thank God.
Please.
Good.
I'll hope someone looked good on the Vegas Knights.
However...
Nah, they've got to protect them.
No movement.
Unless they send him over there.
I wonder...
Why not?
Yeah.
Do you think there will be a surprise player or two
who no one would have
saw them waving their
claws.
I'm not sure why Hossa would do that in particular,
but maybe someone else? I don't think Hossa would do that.
But I think
that... I mean,
Chicago's going to have to have a discussion with Mary and Hossa here
pretty soon.
He's on the IR right now.
So he's on...
So he's... No, he's
saving them. They projected
cap space, by the way, $239,000.
And they'll be right there
Come playoff time
Deadline cap space
Just shy of 1.1
They're the Blackhawks, man
They're the Blackhawks
They'll make a move, too
They'll make a move
You watch
Ironically, they can take on contracts
Because they only have 43 of 50
Scott Darling
What were you going to say about him?
He's making less than 600 grand
Oh, yeah, sorry
He's a UFA at the end of this year
So that hurts
That hurts
Because you're getting
potentially losing
the cheapest goalie
in the league
you're losing the
cheapest goalie
in the league
either way
because even if
you re-sign him
he's no longer
the cheapest goalie
in the league
right?
What about
marginal at best
Corey Crawford?
Is he
going to come back in
and
He's making
six million bucks
for three years
after this one
Corey Crawford
was the number
two goalie
at the Olympics
I know
I'm just kidding
That's been my
running joke
with Blackhawks fans
for years
I don't think
you're kidding at all
Blackhawks fans
don't even tweet me
about it when I say it
anymore because they know
they are the nicest people
by the way
they're always like
come on
why are you ragging
on my man Corey
like that's
whereas like
Flyers fans are like
hey
F you
everyone keeps tweeting
me about Trevor
Van Riemsdyk
well I was talking
to somebody about that
too because I think
because James Van Riemsdyk
is on the Leafs
people are instantly
like well why
wouldn't you
reunite the two
is Trevor Van Riemsdyk
a guy
that is
worth trading for
he's a guy yes
yes but not
until after the season's
done
because if I'm the
Blackhawks
is he an all-star
defenseman
or is he just
Is he a third-pairing guy?
What is he?
I'd say third-pairing, yeah.
He makes $825,000 this season and next before becoming an RFA.
So there's no way Chicago lets him go then.
That's exactly the type of player Chicago needs.
The problem is it seems fairly obvious that he'd be one of the top candidates to be plucked by Vegas.
But the season's still going, so we!
Like, that's what a contender does.
Everyone's going to lose someone
Yeah
Everyone's going to lose someone
Leafs, it'll be Kamarov or Bozak
One of the two
I'm not sure about that
But
We
Alright
The Blackhawks, man
The Blackhawks
Just a crazy
They're just a crazy story
Crazy
So fun
World Junior question
Jeez
How come nobody
Not one announcer
Has said
Switzerland goes top cheese
Huh?
Because they have self-respect
well that is wrong
okay
self-respect is for losers
who needs that
when you can have fun
I have a podcast
I do have a podcast
what's up
I have a World Juniors question
was it too much
stuff
in Toronto this year
maybe
was it
World Cup
Grey Cup
World Juniors
Centennial Classic
TFC
TFC
Unexpectedly
Blue Jays playoffs
was it too much
Raptors playoffs
did they tap out the market
for tickets
for the average fan for sports in Toronto.
Yes, but a few of those things you couldn't have predicted.
Like, you don't know TFC's going to the final.
You don't know the Raptors are going three rounds deep.
You don't know the Jays are going to their second consecutive ALCS.
But you set up the three major hockey events all in one year.
They might have tapped it out.
But you know what?
It's not the World Juniors' fault.
Because we knew Toronto would get the round robin.
like two or three years ago.
It's really just,
it's everything else
that has occurred since.
It's the World Cup
that randomly went,
we're here now
and they just barged
into the room.
Yeah,
I think you could
spread the wealth.
I think Montreal
could handle something
like that.
You know where a great place
for the World Cup
would have been?
A non-hockey Canadian city.
Quebec City.
Yeah.
Would have been a great
spot for the World Cup
because then it's like a,
wow,
we get NHL talent
coming to Quebec City
and then it fires up
rumors about,
you know,
People get a first-class showcase of the arena.
It's like a tryout.
Oh, absolutely.
That would have been a better spot.
Help me out, folks from the Prairies.
I think Saskatoon.
For the World Juniors.
Because I was so impressed by the World Juniors.
Of course.
They were selling out or coming close to selling out relegation games between Latvia and Slovakia.
People didn't care.
It's like I said, there's nothing to do, and everyone's at the nothing.
Also, there's only so much money.
This city is very expensive.
and you can't tell me
that some of these tickets are worth the prices
they're asking. Can I go after Greg Wyshynski?
Sure. Can I go after him?
Alright, if you want to.
He was making fun of Toronto a little bit yesterday
on Twitter because, hey, we deserve an outdoor
game and then the outdoor games come
with these ticket prices.
Which, it's a funny joke, but
like, let's not pretend
like Toronto doesn't literally keep the
NHL afloat. Yeah.
Toronto is one of
four or five profitable markets in this league
and we've had
a fantastic sports year and there's
been a lot to spend your money on
and I'm sorry that not everybody at this
point, especially like right after
Christmas, has $400
to drop on one ticket, by the way.
Right after Christmas.
Right after Christmas.
You might have bought World Cup tickets
earlier. Yeah, and I had people tweeting me like,
well, you know, you didn't have to get those tickets. Look, I found
this pair and it's still $300.
Hey man, they're only $325
That's only a $750 game, Steve
Or $650, sorry, my math is terrible
No, no, no, like $300 for the pair
Which is a good deal
But not everyone has money for that
Man, I'll give you a Bugatti for $50,000
You know what?
That's a wicked deal for a Bugatti
I don't have $50,000 on me
I don't have it
Sorry, I don't have it
So, I think Jesse's onto something
We might be a little tapped out
I think you're right
The market can only support so much
Really, truly
And the Grey Cup being here was just like
Nobody cared
Did people go though?
It was sold out
They gave away enough tickets that sold out
I think, okay
You could argue, well you give free tickets to anyone
They'll show up
But I think that's a sign
That it might have been partially a money thing
And maybe
People do like the CFL
in this city
but
it's just not their top priority
you know what I mean
man okay
I can spend
money on
World Junior tickets
or World Cup tickets
or Leafs tickets
or Jays tickets
or Raptors tickets
or
CFL
Toronto Rock season
starts tonight
Toronto Fury
they gotta be selling
those for Toonies now
like
my goodness
who's paying to go to the Rock
I keep
and I love the Rock
Totally.
But I keep going back to our buddy Al, who was in a band,
and he had trouble booking shows in Toronto.
Went out to Halifax, sold out of shit.
No one had ever heard of them before.
Sold out of shirts, sold out of CDs, packed bar.
Because there's too much to do here.
There's too much to do.
Especially when it comes to sports.
Don't you ever tell me Toronto's not a sports town.
How dare you?
Oh, it's a huge sports town.
It's a top five sports town, maybe in the continent.
Not maybe.
Definitely.
So we don't need the World Juniors for a while.
Right?
No.
No, I think they're banging on Toronto because Toronto will support hockey.
And I think it's been a little bit sad to watch.
I saw some finger-wagging like,
Oh, Toronto, we can do better than this.
We can fill this building.
Fuck you.
No.
No, not after the World Cup and the Grey Cup and the playoffs.
Put it somewhere else then.
Yeah.
No, who was finger-wagging at Ufa?
Who was finger-wagging when no one went to Russia?
Why can't it just be in Montreal?
Yeah, I don't understand why they split it up.
You know why they probably split it up?
Because they feel like there's not enough interest in Montreal.
Why can't they do Montreal-Ottawa, which is closer?
That might have made more sense.
Yeah.
Like, if you need to have two cities because you've only got one major arena to support it,
and you've got to make X amount of ticket sales per game, why not Ottawa?
That's a great damn idea, Adam.
Or how about some of the games that you know aren't going to sell well,
put them in one of the QMJHL arenas.
Yeah.
put it in Hamilton
yeah why don't you
throw like Denmark
and Switzerland
out in Mississauga
or in Oshawa
Mississauga would be bad
because
for some reason
no one goes to anything
or just any of the suburbs
you're not selling
10,000 tickets
to a game like that
so put it in a
10,000 person arena
Hamilton maybe
yeah
maybe
this is not hard
I just think it was
it was the markets tapped
and you know
honestly after spending
we spent so much money
I didn't go to the playoffs
this year
for the Blue Jays
but those tickets
were expensive
but why are
like I mean
Blue Jays playoff tickets
would have cost me
the same
as going
for two tickets
to
to the
to the Winter Classic
you know what you're doing
by
same price
one's playoffs
sorry but one's just
a regular season game
yeah
it's outside
it's really cool
and it is a premium
I mean
a regular season game
for which there are
35,000 tickets
yeah
and also
people are doing shit
that day it's new year's day i'm flying to florida man and by the way it's going to sell out yeah of
course freaking out this is how high the expectations are for toronto it's gonna sell
out but people are mad that it's not sold out yet fucking relax like to yelling at toronto for this
is like yelling at carrie price for letting in two goals toronto is carrie price when it comes
to ticket selling yeah okay the standard is just higher and by the way when he allows three we go
Oh, Kerry.
They're going to do a great job.
The game's going to go off really well.
Everything's going to be great about this game.
It's going to be really, really well.
And if you're a true Toronto sports fan and you're at the game
and you paid those tickets, I think it's going to be worth it for you.
I really, really do.
But when it comes to, I think the CFL probably is the most mad out of this
because they really struggled, really, really struggled.
And then there was a giveaway where people who paid $150 for tickets
were finding them that if they paid $30
they would get the same tickets
for a pizza meal.
You get it for $30
and you get a pizza.
I'm looking at a QMJHL map.
See this little chunk right here?
I'm sure you guys could all just Google
QMJHL map.
There's Montreal right there.
By the way, if you're on the radio,
Montreal being where Montreal is on the map.
No, it's not the radio.
Well, if you're listening on the radio of the podcast.
If you're listening on...
Oh, just audio?
Yeah.
Way to go, poor person.
If you're listening on video, Steve is not pointing the map at the camera.
But Jesse's putting the thing because of editing magic.
Nope.
Anyway, you were showing me Montreal.
Okay.
You could hold one of the games at one of those markets.
Absolutely.
Where do you think?
Drummondville?
I know it's a bit of a drive.
You should win again.
You've got...
Who's this one?
Is that the new team?
The Armada?
Whatever.
There are places you could have held that thing.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'd love to see a World Junior Championship out in the East again.
Where?
Like Halifax.
Oh, yeah.
Fredericton.
Moncton.
When was it in Halifax?
It was.
It's been there, hasn't it?
I think so, but I don't remember when.
Anyway, it just seems like there's a lot.
And you're right, Jesse.
I think we're tapped out.
I also, here's the thing.
Here's a question for you.
Support a bag of shit team for literally decades and then have trouble selling out one game
and people go, that's not the hockey mecca.
Fuck you.
F you.
Shut up.
It is the hockey mecca.
And by the way, I think Leaf tickets are always worth it.
To me, here, they are a premium.
Yes, you're going to pay premium price, but they're a premium product.
And it's a religion here.
It's like Yankees in New York, man.
There's nothing else that even compares.
I'm willing to pay those prices for that.
And this game, guys, is going to be so special.
Steve, you are so lucky that you're going.
Oh, I'm so stoked.
It's going to be amazing.
Before Sonnet came along and rescued me.
and gave me tickets for this thing
because Mrs. Dangle never asked to go to a hockey game.
She wanted to go to this one.
I knew I was going to get credentials.
I'm going no matter what,
but she wants to go.
I almost dropped the close to a G
to get tickets
because she never asked.
And believe me,
I would have been like,
what?
You only make so many Gs in a year, right?
Oh, yeah.
And there goes one of them.
Yeah, that's how I look at it.
If I ever spend $1,000 on something like brakes on a car,
you're like, or like $500, you're like, that is half a G,
and I only make this many Gs.
That's not fair.
You know what I'm getting better at?
My poker face at the bank.
When I have to pay an unforgivable amount of money for something,
I just go, and I pretend like nothing's wrong.
I do this all the time.
Yeah, and then they look at me like, are you sure nothing's wrong?
I'm like, no, it's fine.
Is that the face you gave them when you told them about James Reimer's figure?
No, that's the face they gave to me
When they realized they could have had their own
Someone sent me a tweet
Where someone was trying to sell one for $180
They're never going to get it
They'll never get it
They're only trying to sell it because they know
It doesn't matter, you know what it's worth to me? Priceless
That's what James taught me
You fuck
What were we talking about?
Well, we were talking about the World Junior Championship
There is one, something I did actually want to bring up with the World Juniors.
Because you know what?
I've thoroughly enjoyed watching it.
It's always fun to watch.
It is.
And it's, like you said last episode, a bunch of players you've never heard of.
It's great.
Yeah, I like learning.
I like learning.
Carl Grunstrom, again.
Now, he's got four points, a goal and three assists,
which puts him, strangely, ahead of Alex Nylander,
who has the same amount of points but more goals.
But assists apparently count for more in the scoring standings.
They're on the same team.
It might have been an alphabetical thing.
Maybe it's that.
but he
not only does he have four points
but the assists that he
has, they're
really great points
Michael Trakos wrote an interesting article about him
he compared him to
Zach Hyman with a better shot
which I thought was interesting and I think
one of the Swedish coaches compared him
to Patrick Hornqvist
I will take either
of those players you just mentioned
second round pick, I'll take those
I'll take a player that plays 100 games in the NHL
With a second round pick
I will take that all day
There's another winger by the way
We're going to trade for strength
They've got to do something
There's too many
There's such a funny season coming here in July
Oh my god it's going to be fun
So here's the deal
I think Sweden's a team to watch
It doesn't matter what team
I watch because Carl Grundstrom's playing for them
So I want to know what he's doing
And it's funny because I've never
I used to watch this tournament
and go like
God I hope Canada wins
and beats everybody
now I'm just going like
who's here that's interesting
I've got this detachment
it's like oh
if Canada doesn't win
our national pride's at stake
for me it's not like that anymore
I don't remember
I want them to win
but it's like
this is more interesting
to see who's coming to the NHL
I care more
I care more
I see like
I was going to say this earlier
with the ticket thing
I would pay
I would pay
more money to see
a Leafs home game
than I would
pay to see
the World Hockey Championship
final game
there was a
wow
wow really
regular season game
for the Leafs
I would pay more
because I care
because I really care
see I think that's
easy to say now
but if Canada
has gold on the line
I didn't say Olympic
but it's gold though
it's world junior gold
what if Canada
has a Leaf prospect
on them
because they don't
this year
then I care
ah
see that evens it out
a little bit
here's where I'm going
I care more about
the Leafs
than I do about
all the bloody tournaments
That all the teams are in
Right now
That might just be right now
But I feel like
I am
I'm such a Leaf fan
That I actually realize
That about myself
I want to watch Sweden
More than I want to watch Canada
I want to watch this
Grundstrom guy play
When Sidney Crosby scored
The golden goal
I thought a few things
In a span of like
Five seconds
One
Holy shit
Holy shit
Holy shit
Two
Of course it was Crosby
Had to be
Three
I can't believe
I was here for this shit
Four
I can't wait
until it's the Stanley Cup.
It always goes back to the Leafs.
It goes back to my NHL team.
If you're listening,
it goes back to yours too.
Yeah, of course.
I want the Cup.
Yeah.
I want the Stanley Cup.
Badly.
And I will pay obnoxious amounts
to see the Leafs in the playoff.
I'm on record right now saying it.
I think every day I think about
what I'm going to do
the day the Leafs win the Stanley Cup.
One day when the Leafs do make the playoffs,
when we do this podcast,
because they never have.
Is that a true fact?
In the time we have done this podcast, the Leafs have not made the playoffs.
We started on the tail end of the last time that they made the playoffs,
but the Leafs have never made the playoffs while we've done this show.
It was like less than a month after they lost.
After 4-1.
Yeah, after 4-1.
Shut up.
And it has haunted us ever since.
One day, I want to, when the Leafs make it back to the playoffs,
I want to go on SeatGeek or StubHub or any of these
and see what the second market tickets are.
Oh, God.
And I want to know how much we're all willing to pay
for playoff tickets in round one.
round two, round three, and hopefully round four.
Like, how much, how high
are we willing to go? Because I think that would be
a really fun thing to do, but we can't do it until they
make the playoffs, because you need to have that storyline.
Oh, they're a young team, and
their hope, and you know, especially Steve,
will be emotionally invested.
See, you, by the way, screwed me up with the Blue Jays,
because I go, I can
afford that once, and then
I want to go to the next one.
Because it's playoffs, and it's infectious.
Dude, we were at a Blue Jays playoff
game this year we bought tickets to the next day's game in our seats in the same seats yeah
and it was smart by the way because like 20 minutes later price went for the day like 30
bucks i got a whole bunch of uh tickets at face value the day they went on sale and i bought game
seven world series tickets and i swear to god if they had gone to the world series and someone
offered me like ten thousand dollars for those tickets i wouldn't have done it i would you had
to go. Sometimes memories
are worth it. I would literally
put myself in financial peril if the Leafs
ever made it to the Stanley Cup final.
You know, I wonder about that.
I'd be like, what can I afford?
Now what's
$2,000 more than that?
Yeah.
I would put myself in debt.
At that point, you look at your whole financial
year plan and you go,
if I spend the next 12 months paying this off,
will it still be worth it? Yeah, I've never put myself
in any bad debt
you know
school
also
university
or sorry
school
house
car
car
but I would do it
I would do it
but also
media pass
well for you
I would
yeah
I don't think
I would
exercise that
if you can
the amount of media
they'd allow
you'd probably get one
yeah
yeah
I want to be on the ice
yeah
so you're gonna
well media pass then
I want to be on the ice
wearing sunglasses
cause I'll be crying
aww
Just deeply and bitterly
Who let this fan on the ice
Is what everyone's gonna say
Morgan, I gave it to you
Because Johnson's just there
Being all professional
Seems like crying in a corner
And then Morgan
Well, you know
It's an unbelievable feeling
You know
We just can't believe it
It's great that we did it
In front of our home fans
Yeah, I mean
Mitch played unbelievable
You're absolutely right, Steve
You know
We really came together as a team
You know
amazing coaching from Babcock.
It was great to be here
for the whole ride.
Hey!
Thank you, too.
For the whole interview.
You'd make the morning highlights
just because you'd be crying
in the end zone corner.
You'd be in the heel position.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And there's Steve,
and like once they got you up
because you'd sat there
for so long crying,
there'd be a butt imprint
from where you melted
into the ice.
You'd see basketball court.
You'd see a Raptors logo.
That's funny.
Yeah, I mean, it was an amazing play.
Really, he just saw me out there.
I called for it and buried it.
But I got to score the goal, but it was a hell of an assist.
Oh, man.
Anyway, guys, I think it's time we do the press conference,
our very last of 2016.
And then we're going to talk about what the schedule is like going into 2017.
First, though, P.
The Presser SDP.
The Steve Dangle Press Conference
Press Conference, but you don't want to start with the press conference.
Oh, no, no, I want to say, just because Jesse and I were talking about the Steve Downey thing from last show.
And a lot of people said it was too hard, and I started considering, you know, was I too hard on Steve Downey?
So I started doing some research, Googled some old stuff of his, looked up video, and I did not go hard enough.
I take back nothing. He was a piece of garbage on the ice.
What's wrong with your neck?
Ah it's a little sore
It keeps going left to right
To left to right
To left to right
Is there any particular reason
Or
Cause I don't think
It's possible
To be too hard
On Steve Downey
Okay
And even though I agree
With some of what he said
Doesn't mean that
Listen
You cannot blame Don Cherry
For slashing a referee
Don Cherry never told you
On a Saturday night
To slash a referee
I had one guy
I had one guy go
You know what
You don't know what
You're talking about
He only got suspended once
For targeting the head
Okay what else
Did he get suspended for
He got suspended
For a lot of things
He slashed a ref and tried to make it look like he was just taking a face-off.
How about this?
How about this?
He tried to make a young teammate cram into a bus bathroom naked,
and when the young teammate didn't want to do that
with a bunch of other rookies on the team,
he cross-checked him in the face and knocked out his teeth.
Anyway, we did this last show.
He brought up some good things.
I would love to talk to Steve Downey.
Oh, I don't know.
Why not?
I don't know.
Why not?
I think it'd be interesting.
I'd love to
I don't know if he'd be willing
you know what
it'd be interesting
well if he's willing
to tweet about it
yeah fair enough
that's a bigger audience
than we are
yeah that's true
why the hell not
let's invite him on
let's do it
by the way
for anybody wondering
I'm going to start
doing pushups
anybody wondering
we are going to
take next week off
we are going to
release two best of episodes
which Jesse is
lovingly compiling
which will probably be
best of meaning
the worst of
Steve and I's
worst moments
the hottest of hot takes
it's just going to be
make an episode
where all I do
is interrupt Adam
you want us to look
I don't have to make that
that would be the easiest
episode
so you want me to
play back
repost it
you know what
well you know
I think
I think with
the
with you know
here's the thing
we said this last episode
for everybody that gets mad
every time we take a week off
I get it
uh however oh they don't really this is the last week that we're going to have until after free
agency yeah this is gonna be hard i made the dumb mistake of taking off time during free agency last
year and we all know how that worked out this will be a six and a half month sprint for all of us and
remember we all have jobs outside of this uh that are pretty demanding so it is going to be crazy
for all of us so i think just give us this week and then we're going to give you all we have for
the next six and a half months. I got a little bit of the
Adam Wilde experience, where
I'm happy to be on TV
now, but
it's added a little bit to the plate.
Yeah.
Sorry, what were you going to say there, Josie?
You got a question?
We have to visit one of our favorite
websites. Uh-oh. We have to go
back to Nars City. I've been sitting
here trying not to chuckle to myself
the entire time. So we should have just
not done the press conference. We should have done listicle
of the week. They've done
10 brutally honest
starter packs
for the GTA
for the Greater Toronto Area
and I think
okay
first off
you are
7 or 8 months late
on the starter pack thing
by the way
yeah
also yeah
you're a little late
on the starter pack
by the way
the yells at your wife
in public starter pack
is still my favorite
cause it's basically
Guy Fieri
the chain and wallet
the uh
oh yeah
the only sunglasses
the spiky blonde hair
like
why don't you just say
Guy Fieri
pick up some
pick up a liter of coke
man stereotypes dude seriously okay so or smash mouth yeah sorry oh my god yeah real real quick
someone would be telling me about like a jerk customer that they dealt with at the zoo like
in the lunchroom right and i'd be like oh were they like this this this this this maybe like
were you there did you see this person and i'm like no i just they all worked here for long
enough and we get over a million customers a year yeah were there kids blonde oh yeah
really yeah blonde kids get yelled at more per capita i don't know why oh i i couldn't tell you
why i just know that's what i saw usually usually with aggressive people in public you can pretty
much to a person uh pick them out with the affliction shirts that they're wearing if you
are wearing anything UFC or
UFC related, you are
probably aggressive in public.
I think that's a perfect place.
And call people bro. I think that's a perfect place
to start off with our, I'm from
Oshua starter pack.
This is good. Do you guys want to take a look at it?
By the way, this article is like
15 years too late. Describe it for us so people
can't see. So, we got in the
starter pack. And he's going to throw this up on screen.
Jess, you're going to edit these in. We have
your speedometer
going 210.
that is abs i wish that were true we've got a we got a nice nice little home it's pretty small
but it's like a nice tiny home uh-huh that's appropriate that's an oshawa thing yeah it's
super boring but i mean we've got a pickup truck yeah yes with a newfoundland sticker for some
reason all of newfoundland moves oshawa i don't know what it is three quarter length jean shorts
No
No that's gone
A few years ago
Yeah
I don't know if that's the case anymore
And a nice tap out hoodie
Yes
There's a lot of that
There's a lot of tap out hoodies
There's a lot of that
Jen's games are great
Because
Oh
210
I love that it's not just a pickup truck
It's a mid 2000 Chevy
Which it has to be
Also that is an enormous Oshawa house
I don't know what that person is saying
It's pretty small.
All right, all right.
The jean shorts is pretty funny.
Next starter pack.
What is it?
Well, I was just going to say,
Jen's games are great
because they are a little bit of a time capsule.
There are some old school Oshawa-nians,
whatever the hell you call them.
Oshawa-nians?
Oshawa-nians.
There's some old school Oshawa folks there.
We're talking Canadian tuxedo.
There is something about Oshawa and Edmonton
that is 1980s.
It's beautiful, isn't it?
I don't know.
It's a good music.
I also like going to Jenny's games
and Toronto Rock games
and Calgary Roughneck games
when I used to live in Calgary
because everybody
would wear their hunting gear
and you couldn't see anybody
but the stands were full.
But Oshawa,
now because there's
the university now,
it's a weird mix
of like
Letterkenny problems
and Portlandia.
Oh,
because it's hipster too.
It's very,
very,
SL and I went to breakfast
one day,
we're like,
where the hell
did we walk into?
Everyone's wearing
like a beret.
Oh yeah,
seriously,
seriously.
Painting while drinking coffee.
Yes,
drinking coffee,
Yeah, there's something you drink coffee limp-wristed and you pretend like you hate it.
Okay.
Lip-wristed.
Okay.
All right.
Do you want to do the I'm from Scarborough stuff?
Yeah!
Let's go.
We've got Bayes, Chino's, and Jordan's.
Jordan's for sure.
Jordan's for sure.
Everybody, it was Jordan's.
That was all people wore.
We played against a rugby team where they couldn't afford cleats, so they all wore Air
Forces, and they kicked our ass.
Wow.
Yeah.
We got Salt-N-Pepa Roots hoodie.
No, that's every university town.
That's not Scarborough.
Good Life Fitness bag.
That's not Scarborough either.
No?
No.
No?
I don't even know if there is a Good Life in Scarborough.
Has this person ever been?
In our city.
We've got a TTC picture, which is anywhere in Toronto.
Yes.
We've got some slow-burning cigarettes
and a bunch of kids standing by a brick wall looking tough.
Well, that is for sure.
Boo!
That list sucked!
Oh, no, that's the LRT.
That's Light Rapid Transit that links to the subway.
That's why.
Yeah, because it's like Kennedy Station, of course.
Yeah.
Wow, that's...
This is...
You know why?
Here's the thing.
If you were expecting the starter packs to be good,
it's Narcity.
So, no.
My friend posted one the other day.
The Root Hoodie, man.
Nobody can afford roots in Scarborough
Roots is expensive
Yeah I can't afford roots
What the hell
I got some for Christmas and I was like wow I got roots
It's good quality
I saw a sign for a lost cat
And the caption was
Only in Scarborough
Right above the cat printed on the sign
It said dis yo cat
I thought that was funny
Next starter pack
Dis yo cat
Do you want to do the I'm from Markham
Okay
I don't know
Is Markham that
Amazingly different
From Scarborough
Alright
They switched it up
A little bit
We've got some
We've got a BMW
Yes
Vaughn
But yeah
Well Markham
A little bit
You know the hairstyle
Where you got the ponytail
On top
And you kind of
Shave off all the
Everything around it
Yeah the man bun
Except everything else
Is shaved as well
It's kind of just
The man bun on top
So it's like the
Sumo wrestler
Yeah
Let me see
oh yeah
that's Scarborough though
yeah
that's a little bit Scarborough
we've got your parents
and then you
and your hands out
and then they're giving you money
that's definitely Markham
that's most of
north and west of the city
yes
and then Markham
town center
I think it is
is a place
we've got a little
start back
I don't know if I've ever been
and a can of goose jack
is there
but everybody has
a can of goose jack
you know why this is boring
you know why this is boring
because
a lot of the suburbs in Toronto are pretty boring
like we don't have a suburb like Brooklyn
that's not true
yes it is
tell me one thing about any of the suburbs in Toronto
that's interesting and I include the ones that I used to
that I grew up in
Pickering has Frenchman's Bay
Joe Neuendijk is from Whitby
Mike Koska is from Ajax
I think
I'm not actually even sure
that's my point
it's boring
Fair enough.
It's boring.
They don't have...
Toronto is a new city in the sense that it doesn't have the characteristics of neighborhood
that you would get in older big cities.
See, I don't think that's true.
I think Toronto is bajillions of small neighborhoods.
We don't really have the big Brooklyn feel.
We have like...
Right, so there's...
I always laugh when people say like little Italy in Toronto.
There's several.
There are.
Toronto and the GTA have several little Italys.
There's several little Greeks.
Portugal, India, Chinatowns, Little Philippines.
That's my point.
My point is that.
Yeah, but that makes the whole thing good.
I'm not saying it makes it bad.
I'm just saying it doesn't make it...
I think it makes these articles difficult.
Yes, yeah.
They're trying to make an article that's impossible to make.
Okay.
No one area has one distinguishing factor.
You're just not from there.
Whoever wrote that's just not from there.
If you had someone from there, do it.
You know what you could have done for Scarborough?
Exco.
Well, yes.
Definitely XCO.
International Clothiers.
And what was the name of the guy who ripped movie tickets at Morningside?
I know who you're talking about.
Yeah, and everyone from there knows who I'm talking about.
So congrats to the 30 of you.
So what are we giving in our city as starter packs?
Boo.
I'm exhausted already.
Can we get to an actual question?
I wish I had more hands.
So I can give those four thumbs down.
All right.
Sorry, I might have watched that recently.
Was that a good spell?
Has Sidney Crosby
Surpassed Carey Price
As the best hockey player
In the world
Yes I'm sorry
Okay
That was dumb
You're right
At least I can admit it
Can you create
A new Leafs chant
That's not
Go Leafs go
But is just as catchy
Austin Matthews
Austin Matthews
I don't know
Better than
Go Leafs go
A Leafs chant
Yeah
We Want Cup
I don't know
No
I think Chance kind of sucks
The answer's no
Chance kind of suck
If they're not in the form of a song
If you were to meet
Levi Maestro in person
What would you say to him?
Nothing
Because it's a greeting
Without saying hello
Honestly I think
As I said in the last episode
I think he's probably
A really good guy
Totally
We would have
I think we would have
The best time
Yeah
Oh, man, you saw Rogue One?
I like that movie, too.
Like, I think he'd just be like...
He seems like a very agreeable dude.
Yeah.
And if you said you liked a movie that he didn't like,
he'd be like, oh, okay.
Like that.
He would let you talk because he doesn't have anything to say.
Honestly, I think he's a likable dude.
I just think that he needs a producer to tell him when his content is lacking.
He's a content producer.
We all do.
We all do.
That's why we have one on this show.
Without a producer.
Why is Donkey Kong called a donkey?
i have always wondered that he is nor donkey nor kong is he a kong what is a kong is a dog toy
yes it is but he's definitely not one of those the very strange thing about donkey kong is he
is from the kong family like king kong yeah wow yes yeah yeah diddy kong diddy kong what about
Donkey Kong
made his parents decide
and we shall name him
Donkey.
I used to play
Donkey Kong
every day.
Donkey Kong 64
is a very underrated game.
Deep, deep game.
I'm talking about SNES.
Wow.
SNES.
It was great on SNES too.
Are you going to get
the SNES Classic?
When's that for sale?
It's already out.
Yeah, it's been out.
And it comes with
all 200 games
just upload it, right?
No, I don't think it's 200.
Isn't it 200?
I think it's less than 200.
It's all the good games.
I want to be Donkey Kong
I hope NHL 94 is on there
Yeah
Well that's
It's classic though
It's not SNES
Do they have
Oh they have the
Oh I want Magic Johnson's
Fast Break
Yeah
Oh wow
In fact do you remember
The theme song to that
NES Classic
I was waiting
Only 30 games
What are the games though
Balloon Fight
Pennsylvania
Donkey Kong
Double Dragon 2
Double Dragon 2
is awesome
I've never played that
Dr. Mario
Excitebike
Galaga
Ghosts and Goblins
Gradius
Ice Climber
Kirby's Adventure
Mario Brothers
Mega Man 2
Metroid
Ninja Gaiden
Pac-Man
Super C
Super Mario Brothers
Super Mario Brothers 2
Super Mario Brothers 3
Legend of Zelda
Yes
Zelda 2
The Adventures of Link
See for Zelda
And Mario alone
It would be worth it
No Mike Tyson's punch out
Yeah that sucks
No regular punch out
In North America
You also get
Bubble Bobble
Castlevania 2
Donkey Kong Jr
Oh
The original Final Fantasy
Star Tropics
And Tecmo Bowl
Tecmo Bowl is awesome
Oh
Have you ever played
Tecmo Bowl
Oh
Tecmo World Wrestling
is really good
oh
I think Deadspin
still does
like I think they do
teams versus each other
on game day
on Tecmo Bowl
and they'll live stream it
and it'll just be like
a game between two guys
oh it's so good
you ever play Captain Skyhawk
no
Captain Skyhawk's really good
really
yeah
yeah that was one of my
favorite growing up
you know what I finally bought
Rocket League
is it good
I've heard that's an
incredible game
oh it's so fun
I've heard it's the best
it is so fun
alright now I hear people
are so good at it
That it's obnoxious
Yeah I haven't played
Online yet
I'm probably gonna
Try that out tonight
Get sick of it
And never do it again
Especially if the Leafs
Lose to Tampa
Oh especially
Why do Pringles
Gotta have
A small ass space
To get your hand in
This is our most
Upvoted question of the week
And I think
Best worded
I think that might
Be a question of the year
In terms of how that was worded
Can we read that one more time
Why does Pringles
Gotta have
A small ass space
To get your hand in
I love that that's the most upvoted
That is so our listeners
P.S. Enjoy your week off
I love you guys, thank you
Do we have an answer?
The answer is so they can fit more Pringles on the shelves
So they can sell more and make money
Because capitalism, man
That's my answer
Okay
I don't know
I think it's just a gimmick
Yeah, I think it's because the packaging looks cool
And that's the differentiator
Because the chips aren't that good
If you were a kid and you got
Whoa, whoa
Oh I just wanted to say
If you were a kid
And you got a flavor
That wasn't pizza
You were poor
Adam hates
I was that kid
Adam hates
Okay let's talk
The Godfather
Fun
I just thought I'd end
2016 burning the house down
Children
Baby
You babies
No I don't
I don't hate babies
Just what do they do
The Leafs
What are they capable of
What are babies capable
What can babies do
About as much as a can of chips
Am I right Adam
About as much
High five for hating
Except for cans of chips don't poop.
Oh, well, no, but I mean...
I'm just saying.
If you want to split hairs...
No, but okay, but okay.
All right, you have a chance at a party.
You've got bowls of chips.
Somebody has figured out that with a Pringles bar,
you can actually pour the Pringles out and put them in a bowl.
Oh, what?
Which is crazy.
I know, weird concept.
No, here's what you do.
You slowly lay them out on one of those wood plank things they have at restaurants.
Like tapas, so tapas Pringles.
And then you serve it with cheese, just for no reason.
Oh, no.
You can't have Pringles with food.
No, but you just put the cheese on the side for garnish.
And maybe some olives.
Grapes would be good.
Olives are terrible. Olives are bad.
Add that to the list.
I am really burning the house down today.
Adam, this is my baby.
Her name is Olive.
What?
What is the...
What chip are you going to first?
You've got Doritos, you've got Lay's, you've got
Ruffles. What kind of Doritos?
Are Pringles...
The original Doritos are
not the greatest
what's the original
the nacho cheese
nacho cheese
there's like
8 kinds they've made
better that are better
than the original
the sweet chili heat
is pretty sweet
sweet chili heat
is very very good
jalapeno cheddar
is very good
if there's
if a good
I've only had
you know what
maybe this isn't fair
I've only had Pringles original
so maybe my Pringles
taste is off
like ever
yeah
are there better Pringles
flavors out there
yeah
pizza
I like the sour Pringles
I was a poor kid.
I like the sour cream one.
Do you?
Sour cream.
All right, so maybe I take that back on Pringles.
I need to try some more Pringles and try some different flavors.
I'm just saying, I don't know.
If you're going for a bag of chips, are you reaching for Pringles first?
I got a lot of heat.
People were saying I should be deported a couple months ago.
Why?
Because I said ketchup chips suck.
They do.
Yep.
They still suck.
There's that.
Listen, just because something is Canadian doesn't make it good.
I remember we did, as a promo in Calgary, we did a toss your BlackBerry for an iPhone.
So we took you to a parking lot early in the morning, on the morning that the new iPhone 5 was released.
This is how long ago this was.
And you had to throw your BlackBerry, and the person that threw it the furthest got an iPhone.
A brand new iPhone.
That's a really good gimmick.
We were inundated, inundated with people so angry.
How dare you diss a Canadian company like BlackBerry?
like research in motion at the time how you are not supporting canadian products guys listen
free market canadian product fine not a good canadian product i would gladly buy a blackberry
if it were better than an iphone but guess what and and even the blackberry
hardcore fans that still somehow exist you have to now admit iphone one
yeah but i'm getting sick of the iphone but iphone one i think i'm getting sick of the iphone
because you use it you have one you're not getting sick of it because it's gotten worse
as technology you're human and you get bored eventually yeah i think next phone pixel yeah
and the last the last yeah the last time you did that steve you were like oh god and then a month
later you switch back to an iphone yeah i don't know we'll see no no that's what happened jesse
and I were there
and we could go on
and have conversations.
We remember that.
Yeah.
Oh yeah,
and you guys were so supportive
about the whole thing.
Isn't it shitty, Steve?
Shut up with your
plain Pringles on them.
I don't know what
an Android gives you
that an iPhone won't.
Customization!
It's all...
I can make the screen
do whatever I want.
Well, good.
Spend 20 minutes on that.
They're all kind of the same.
They're all the same.
Whichever one you want to use
for usability.
And guess what?
Your iPhone works
with your computer.
Yeah.
Way better.
Yeah, when I plug in another kind of phone,
my computer literally explodes.
Well, no.
It's just one was built for that computer.
Vladimir Putin literally appears on my screen and goes,
I own this, and then the computer powers down,
and I can't use it anymore.
You're not abandoning your iPhone because of the iPhone.
You're abandoning it because you just got bored.
Yeah.
And you want something new.
Listen, I don't need you psychoanalyzing me.
Listen, iPhones are solid as hell.
That's all I want.
I want a competent mum phone.
Can you keep up?
Can you keep up?
And by the way, I think they're a little better than a competent bop.
So you want a Brian Rust phone?
A little bit better than you want a Patrick Hornquist phone?
I want a Patrick Hornquist phone.
Oh, one thing.
Hey, everyone.
I don't watch the newsroom.
I'm sorry I read a tweet from a guy on the newsroom.
Will McAvoy?
I didn't know.
I didn't feel bad about that either.
Sorry I forgot one of the main characters from one of the 500,000 shows that are out there these days.
can i ask you guys an honest question about when people no no i cannot ask you when people say
have you seen does it give you anxiety because yeah a little bit it gives me anxiety before
they even mention the tv show's name have you seen because my answer is usually no you give
me a youtube video though oh mrs dangle just stopped asking have you seen yes you have you
want to watch this again and whenever she brings me something i haven't seen before i'm like hey
hey, hey, good work.
Man, I'm on Reddit and WorldStar
every day. You're sneaking nothing
past me. Nothing.
What? I feel that way with
memes. Yeah.
They're never as funny as
they're never, for some
reason, there are very few people who show
you a meme regularly that is actually
funny. Like, there are
certain people in my life that I trust to share
memes with. Whenever I get a meme
from one of you two, Caprice,
Caprice's brother
I know that it's probably
going to be a very dark
hilarious meme
that is wrong
and we cannot share publicly
but
but wait
if I get a
if I get a meme sent to me
from my dad
who I love
chances are
I'm not going to find
the meme is funny
and I love my dad
but he doesn't have
that same sense of humor
he finds like
funny
he's a little different
kind of funny
and he will
he probably couldn't even
tell you what a meme is
you know what I'm really
enjoying right now
that's not
that's probably a good thing
he's probably better off
I'm really enjoying
my mom
just learning
emojis
but
but
with punctuation
so she doesn't do
the actual
emoji
she'll do like
the colon
for the eyes
and the line
for the nose
and then she'll put
like a star
for a
like a smoochy face
or the bracket
for the smiling face
she's 2004 emojis
yeah
and it's adorable
that's sweet
it's the funniest thing
I want her to send me
a flower
Bracket F bracket
My dad
Now
Has fallen in love with FaceTime
And I'm going to go on record and say I hate FaceTime
I don't want to look
If I have to talk to you on the phone
I don't want to have to also monitor how my face looks
Mrs. Dangle's grandparents
From Scotland
Have had many a conversation with their shoulders
They don't get it
Looking into the camera guys
They don't get it
But my dad, when I'm like, yeah, sure, give me a call, he FaceTimes.
And I'm like, no, no, no.
I'm in the car on Bluetooth.
Just call me.
Unless you want to look at the bottom of my chin.
Let me see my dog.
I just want to see my son.
Yeah, no, and then we put the dog on camera.
Oh, okay.
Night, night.
We say this with love.
Those damn Dirty Scots.
Yep.
Who I love.
I got to tell you, as someone whose mother has more Twitter followers than he does.
Well, she is a Grammy award winning.
She is.
It is a little bit weird that my mom is better at emojiing than I am.
Far better.
Is she better?
I remember I talked about, I made fun of my parents once on the air because I said there
were like, I made a joke about how many divorces there are in my family, which there are a
few.
There's not just one.
There's a few.
And that's okay.
my mom was like
I heard that
and then sent me the emoji
with the sunglasses
and I was like
wow
that was quite hysterical
and he used that emoji correctly
golf claps mom
well done
well done
well done
anyway
this is devolving
we're ready
we're about to go on vacation
it's going to 2017
what are you guys going to do
for the next week
alumni game
uh huh
centennial classic
uh huh
pass out
Jesse
same thing
are you going
I'm not going to
I'm going to the alumni game
there you go
be a good time
Florida
oh right
I'm going to go see PK live
if he's not hurt
yeah he's injured
so
might not see him
screw you guys
Adam
I think his name is Vingen
he's a Predators reporter
he said
he tweeted today
PK Subban is out
for the rest of the year
as in 2016
what
that's evil sir
that was good
that's unfollowed territory
no it's not
That's follow
You're playing with fire Adam
I wish there was a lock follow
As in I like you so much
I can follow you
I'm gonna confidently say
That following you
For the rest of my life
Is a good idea
I have a million dollar idea
For Twitter
What's this?
This is not gonna be good
We got block
Yeah
We got mute
Yeah
You know what we need?
What?
A 24 hour mute
You love that person
but you don't want to hear about them right now
because they're going off on something
and you're not interested
and you don't want to unfollow them
you don't want to block them
you don't want to mute them
because what if you forget about them
temporary mute
I need a 24 hour mute
I like that
I don't like this tangent you're going on
temporary mute
huh
now be honest
you thought it would be a shitty idea
and it ended up being a great one
it's not bad
that's a pretty good idea
it's pretty good
hey guys
24 hour mute
thank you so much for listening
and supporting the show
in 2016
we really appreciate it
we love you
we will see you
in 2017
January the 10th
I believe
is our next episode
what's your resolution?
shut up
I know
none
zero
it's Penny Alexiak
the athlete of the year
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