The Steve Dangle Podcast - The Steve Dangle Podcast - Jul 5, 2016 - Roman Candles

Episode Date: July 5, 2016

On this episode, Steve tries to be Jesse's friend, Leafs dilemmas, NHL free agency, NBA free agency, UFC 200, and Steve's firework stories. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Panago Pizza presents S.T.P. The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde Hey Steve Yeah Do you watch Game of Thrones?

I'm waiting for Adam to start the show Oh wait wait wait where's Go ahead Adam Oh he's not here Where's Adam? Oh it's okay I'll let our guest talk Oh it's just us What? No Fisher?

On the Steve Dangle podcast today, Jesse Blake and I, Steve Dangle, become friends. Because apparently we're not. We're not ever going to be. But I like you, though. See, feelings aren't mutual. Wow. You swiped left on our friendship? I shouldn't go full Stephen A on our friendship.

Wow. Oh, yeah? You think we're friends? Oh, listen. Our friendship is not MVP caliber. That Michael Jordan would have never been friends with Steve Teckel. You do not want to make an enemy out of me, Steve. See, I don't know. Are we enemies, though?

No, no, no. Okay, that's good. We're acquaintances who record a podcast together. That breaks my heart, man. That's so rude. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I apologize.

Talk to me about Game of Thrones, Jesse. So, Game of Thrones, last Sunday. Yes. Or previous Sunday before that. Are we going to spoil it? I don't want people stabbing me in the neck. Spoiler alert. i'm not gonna spoil it okay good steve do you watch it no why and i'm a social outcast you know

why because i don't like falling behind in shows and how long is every episode of game of thrones an hour get out of my face and it's every week every well there's only 10 episodes come on man that's 10 hours of my life you you sit down and you watch three hours of hockey for one leafscape yeah how many four times a week sometimes i guess that's you can't spend one hour on a television show that's really compelling that's as compelling as the least were last season what sucks is game of thrones looks exactly like the kind of show i would love but i have this weird natural rejection in me of everything that people tell me unanimously across the board oh this is great i feel the exact same way yeah yeah game of thrones is the best show on tv oh my god oh yeah is it um what's

that movie with the um the superhero who's kind of like badass uh ryan reynolds oh deadpool i can't watch i can't go sit down in the theater watch deadpool i'm gonna make a lot of people really upset i'm gonna make a lot of people really upset i saw deadpool it was a very good movie glad i paid money for it it was worth it how on earth is that like the highest selling movie of all time how on god's green earth i'm glad you're saying that i'm glad you're saying that it's good it's good it's a good movie it's worth seeing okay but i i don't get it everyone who's ever seen it says oh my god deadpool is the greatest thing ever and i i can't go sit down and watch it now that you said that and there are the hardcore if justin fisher was here this would

have actually been a really good he likes all comic book characters and so he counts he gets to be like here's why deadpool the best and nate as well okay but our friend nate yeah everyone else i'm like i didn't know there were enough deadpool fans how cool i've been on this planet 28 years where were all the people talking about deadpool yeah where were all the people talking about everybody hopped on the hype train and it's like deadpool is this great thing everybody go see deadpool and i'm like no i'm gonna sit here and you guys can do your hype thing i'm actually gonna jump into your bandwagon i'm gonna judge you yeah i feel like we're gonna judging i feel like that's one of my best skills oh it's definitely no it's definitely one of your best skills you ever just

scroll through Facebook and be like, I can see that person. See right through you. That's a terrible choice for a profile picture. How long it take you to take that selfie?

Oh, yeah. But there's 30 more in your phone. Who took that? Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, I can't believe they ended up with that person.

See, that's dark. That relationship will never last. Oh, that's dark. We're getting there. We're at that point on Facebook. We're in the same age group.

I don't care what you say. Are we? Yeah, a little bit. Or am I like a young sprite? Youngster. It's going to happen like... How old are you again? 24?

24. Oh, it's going to be so quick. So quick. You have two years and you're just going to be like that friggin' Mr. Krabs meme. It's going to be you in two years. What happened? At what point does Spongebob just become the place for every meme?

Should WorldStarHipHop just be called Spongebob.com? You know? Everything. Well, I guess it's just that WorldStar Vine account. I guess. or anyway yeah the twitter on those like

words on vines and all that anyways so we're good at judging things yeah should we judge the Leafs

and free agency we should start with free agency Adam Wilde I like your transition yes thank you okay thanks man

yay that was my shiny teeth we're kind of friends now glinting yeah I like that so okay I made a video about the Matt Martin

thing yes made a video up at sorry up at sportsnet.ca you should just

I mean google the steve dangle blog and maybe save that and then have a better life as a result so i made something about the matt martin thing made something about the roman polak thing uh it was like a an 11 and a half minute long video and i still didn't get out all my feelings about it i still didn't and jesse there's pressure there's pressure okay uh as i guess like i'm part of the blogosphere like to the core like I'll never be totally mainstream accepted I don't think you know what I mean I disagree I think I'm mainstream liked um but that doesn't mean I'm fully accepted like I think there are a lot of people in the mainstream who wouldn't who I don't think there's

a lot of people in the mainstream who would be like that's my peer totally they might say like i work with that guy or i have worked with that guy but i never i i that is my peer you know what i mean does that does that make sense can we pause there and before we get to polak and talk about this a little sure no no i promise this connects i promise this connects okay okay because i feel like there's pressure in the blogosphere okay and i've spoken to a lot of people on dms and they're not brave enough to do it publicly and that's okay because you get a lot of crap when you say certain things publicly okay but i feel like it's a bit of a hive mind on there and i'm supposed to hate the martin and polak signings i'm supposed to it's my job and i don't love them

they're not good deals but i've tried i've tried in my heart and in my head to hate them and i can't guys i can't because i think there's some logic to them i think there's actually some validity to it okay and what has been scary about the whole hive mind thing is the polak deal much more than the martin deal the martin deal there's actually some concern what was it 2.5 or 2.25 i'll pull it up so over two million dollars yeah or no it's 2.5 because it's 10 million bucks so there you go 2.5 for four years that could go sideways in a number of ways it can go sideways because of the term uh it's not like the Leafs have a ton of cap room they're over the cap right now that obviously will change with the um with the LTIR and all that but the Polak deal has been

extra freaky for me because I we know what's going on right like same thing that happened this year right Daniel Winnick was traded 129 days ago yeah did it take us that Polak last year was a 2.75 million dollar cap hit 3.1 million dollar salary so his salary was even more than this cap hit and now he's I think 2.25 2.25 that was the confusion okay which is still too much right but he is a veteran I guess from right-handed shot whatever it's still too much I wouldn't pay that for Roman Polak. I still don't think Roman Polak is a great defenseman. I didn't think he was a great defenseman on the Leafs. I didn't think he was a great defenseman

on the Sharks because I saw with my own two eyes that he wasn't a good defenseman with the Sharks. But Frankie Corrado has 67 games NHL experience as a Leafs right-handed shot, okay? Connor Carrick has even less than that. I think it's 56 games experience, right-handed

shot. Nikita Zaitsev has zero games NHL experience. Those are your three Leafs right-handed shots. Oh, and Justin Hall, sorry, who they just signed, former second-round pick of the Chicago Blackhawks, played in the AHL last year with the Monarchs. They needed another right-handed shot. Now, you're all

going to yell and scream at me, well, what about James Wisniewski? They could have easily... You're right. I'm not disagreeing with you there. I'm just saying this isn't the worst deal possible. This isn't the worst thing that could have happened. Okay. You don't know what James Neal is asking for. Anyway, sorry. So, what are people saying

that they don't like about the deal, then? If it makes so much sense on the surface, what are the detractors saying? They hate that it's Polak you know they hate that he's making over two million bucks and they hate that he's not a great defender because he's not he's not um I do know that the Leafs like their disciples though they like people who buy in uh and I think Polak bought in that doesn't mean he was great at executing it but he's a tough guy a very strong guy a hard-working guy and I know that it was a sore spot at least with the Marlies that they didn't work hard enough they were the most talented

team in the league bar none 114 points in the regular season made it all the way to round three even though they got stomped in round three but it was a bit of a sore spot that some of them didn't work hard enough and so the Leafs went out and they got a guy who they know worked hard last season they were able to convince to come back for less money and then they go out and they get matt martin who's a notoriously tough notoriously hard-hitting uh guy the other thing about free agency that bugs me why didn't x team go out and sign x player yeah it's up to the player why didn't the leafs go out and sign james wisniewski maybe james wisniewski doesn't want to be a toronto maple leaf hmm why didn't the habs go out and sign x player maybe x player didn't

want to sign with the Habs it was kind of nice of my uh Mark Bergevin to just come out and straight up say I we spoke to certain players and they were like we will not play in Montreal yeah it's kind of nice so four years for Matt Martin yes too long I think so I think everybody's agreeing on that point I think so um and I'm not sure if I would have preferred Matt Martin for like two years at three maybe even more than three um or the four and 2.5 i hope it's a leo kamarov situation because that was a terrible contract when it was signed as a fan of leo kamarov hey leo kamarov's turning into the least yeah 2.9 million for four years oh god oh dear jesus oh yeah oh and it turned out okay but now you got

too this is a career fourth liner as well and well and he's gonna be playing the rest of his career with the Leafs no he's uh look his advanced numbers aren't a catastrophe they're not good but he's a good shot suppressor um he lays a ton of hits yes the New York Islanders um at the Barclays Center the the the people who tally the hits they're notoriously over tally hits really yes Oh, it's been notorious for years. As if the Islanders' fourth line has led the league in hits for like five or six straight years. Like, come on.

Matt Martin's been in the top five the last couple years. Cal Clutterbuck. And I mean, those are guys that are tough and lay a lot of hits, but come on. But if he can suppress shots in a fourth line role, if he can be tough, if he can protect some of the young guys without being a defensive liability,

because with goons, with guys like, I don't know, jay rosehill and fraser mclaren and colton north the criticism was always yes i guess i suppose they are fists okay i suppose they could protect nasm cadre but they suck like you could literally just throw a fighter out there like a ufc fighter give him skates um i look at a guy like rich clune for example okay he took his role with the marlies seriously he was an offensive contributor though not a great one he wasn't too much of a defensive liability

wasn't a defensive liability at all in most situations there were a couple times he took penalties he shouldn't have but he protected the guys and he pushed them

in the weight room you know forced them to work harder and I know you guys love William Nylander I love William Nylander too we all do I know you love

let's rattle off all the prospects right there was an error in the Leafs organization that some of them were a little lackadaisical. They didn't work hard enough. I think this is a bit of a message being sent.

I don't love the message. I also don't totally disagree with it. Are we feeling repercussions from the second round loss? Is this all tied into there as well? Well, it was third. It was almost second. Very close. Yeah, because it's the best team in the AHL,

And I don't think they should have dropped that series on paper if you look at it. The Marlies were, they shouldn't have been this good this season. That's for sure. You know, they were a very young team and young teams usually aren't that awesome. And they were the third best team in the regular season in AHL history. History! So ridiculous. So ridiculous.

um but yeah they got shoved around a little bit they got shoved around um maybe it's something from that i would argue that there were multiple reasons the goaltending wasn't very good um but yeah a little not just body strength not just getting shoved around in the corners or you know guys being nasty and players backing down like mentally like they let the game get away from them often like it I would love to know how many times the Marlies allowed a goal and then within two minutes allowed another and they let the game get away from them it might be that I don't hate this decision by the Leafs organization but I can't bring myself to hate it and I can't bring myself to love it okay and then are we seeing a trend with Lou in that he's

going with guys he's familiar with because matt martin played in the same division with lou for the last how many years interesting and then he sees him every season this goon come up and then now he has the opportunity to go out and sign him does he say hey i know this guy i know what he can do i'm gonna bring him here same with polak had him last year i'm gonna bring him back are we seeing a trend here that is an interesting thought that is a very interesting thought um i hadn't thought of that especially with martin martin i would have a bit of a hard time believing okay just because i have a hard time picturing lou lamorello in the six games per season he sees matt martin going i need that one okay i need that guy on my team of all the guys you can watch in

the islanders i need that one uh it's entirely possible with polak i mean you know what's encouraging i will say this and this is a it's connected but it's a little off topic there is a bit of an encouraging trend in the leafs organization and it seems to be players want to play here which i don't know if that was always the case winnick agreed to come back which i was a little surprised by frankly he agreed to come back even knowing that he could get traded again and he did got traded to a hell of a team though capitals polak agreed to come back knowing full well he's going to get traded by the but that's another thing why are people pretending

like Roman Polak won't won't definitely be traded he's a bag of draft picks he's a bag of draft picks we're milking him for draft draft pick cow new nickname Roman Polak draft pick cow

I hope that catches on that's definitely going to stick there's a visual there's a visual but you know why Lou there was a story that came out I can't remember where but um he's he basically had a conversation with Lou Lamorello like just trade me to a contender please he goes to the San Jose Sharks and they make it all the way to the Stanley Cup final I would have a good feeling about Lou Lamorello if I was him okay I'll come back um I'll sign a more tradable contract than before and unless something happens like the PA Parenteau situation where he gets hurt right by the deadline

there is always that concern he's going to be more draft picks is he going to be two seconds again probably not if he's a fourth yeah i'll take a fourth i'll take it um clune last year the leafs signed him in the summer no they didn't the marley signed him in the summer yes you're signed to a marley's contract and okay hey man sign this contract and if things work out if spots open up we'll sign you to an nhl deal that's exactly what happened and he had i think two or three NHL stints and he even helped assist on Brendan Leipzig's

first career NHL goal. There were some nice moments there. He's a free agent again this year. What do they do? They convince him to do the same thing. He's with the Marlies now. I think it's fairly obvious that the same thing is going to happen. I don't know if that's been out there or whatever.

Colin Smith was not qualified by the Toronto Maple Leafs. Was not qualified. Unrestricted free agent. I think he could have gone to Europe, made a lot of money. He was drafted in the KHL, and then his draft rights were traded in the KHL in a pretty lucrative deal over there.

I think he's wanted in Europe. I think he's coveted. The Leafs convinced him to come back on an AHL-only deal, and I wouldn't be shocked to see them give him an NHL deal. Okay. Like, I guess I'm kind of getting away from how this pertains to Roman Polak. No, because it's a change in culture that they've been looking for for the last how many years, how many decades.

People actually want to play in Toronto, which is a rare thing. Now, none of those players I mentioned are superstars, but it's encouraging. It's encouraging. So a lot of people have this doomsday scenario because in a very short amount of time, the Leafs didn't draft people who a lot of people wanted to draft, and then they go out and they get Martin and Polak.

I would also argue this Thank goodness It was only Martin and Polak Look at the money Spent around the league What was the number? It was over

600 million dollars Ridiculous Absolutely Bonkers Which by the way Is nothing compared To the NBA Which spent

2 billion dollars On their We will get to that On their July 1st By the way Is that next segment? Yeah It could be

We can fit it We still gotta get to The rest of free agents How much time Do we have in this one? We got like five minutes if you want to wrap it up on the first segment. Okay, five minutes. Like, that's another example.

Lucic. Yes. Too much? He's a guy the Oilers could really use. He'll be good. Right next to McDavid? Right next to McDavid. Right next to Pooley-Arvey on the other side?

Sure. Gosh. Darn, that's a lot of money. Oh my God. For Lucic. And he's going to be old by the end of that deal. like a lot of guys were signed

who are going to be in the twilight of their career at the end of it Louis Erickson I don't know if I truly hate that deal

six times six million bucks he's going to be another guy who's very old at the end of it but it's the Canucks what are you? again I'm screaming

what are you? they're going for it oh my god they're going to try and just have some playoff dates in their arena so their owner

can make some playoff money get that gate in the door and then don't do anything in the future you know i mean they did exactly what i wanted them to do which was if you're gonna go for it friggin who cares just go for it then yeah if who cares what the cost is to your organization which is dear so dear um just go for it if you're so hellbent and they want another big winger yeah they're still they're still fishing for more things. How are you going to get that there, Jim?

How are you going to get that? You could probably use another defenseman, Ham Hughes. How much do you think Jim Benning was pushing to get Lucic in there as well? Heavily. Yeah. Heavily.

Which now my concern is he, based on that report that he wants another big winger, gladly would have signed Lucic and Erickson. Yes. Oh my gosh! I just don't know what those teams are well the Oilers I understand

why they did it and at the end of the day they had a couple day stretch where they left that stretch with Puglia Jarvi, Lucic and Larson and were without Hall Lucic, Puglia Jarvi Larson for Hall

now I know that's not how you're supposed to look at it but a few teams made weird moves where I'm like, you know what? I think they're better now, but they still confuse me and kind of screwed up. The Oilers were one. The Montreal

Canadians were another. Well, we heard last episode about the Canadians and Piquet. There's another team where, you know what? They actually made a few small signings where I'm like, I don't hate those signings.

Radulov, I mean, if he has turned a corner one of the best talents in hockey like he's fantastic uh and it's a one year show me deal yeah what happened to the reports that he wasn't going to come back i don't know uh friedman was tweeting about that he's like look i'm sorry basically on that but you know what with the khl the truth uh doesn't remain the truth for long very up steve you're getting paid oh you're not getting paid i remember that um okay but uh he's back with the habs and i look at some of the additions they made because they were in a buy mode they still have shea weber who is shea weber they don't have suban but you know i look at weber radulov a couple of

small signings they go you know what with the addition of price too back from entry that's a that could be a playoff team they were a playoff team with price last year yeah oh absolutely they They were, you know, one of the hottest teams in the league to start the season anyway. But still, you traded Subban for Weber. It's not a good deal. No. It was a very, very, very confusing few days.

And there were, like, even some of the middle-of-the-pack guys, like, I don't even remember where they all ended up. I think Troy Brower went to Calgary. That was a lot of money, but I don't hate that deal. Just because I feel like they could use a little bit of veteran presence, too. And he's not a bad player. I don't know if he's that expensive of a player though Oh my god

What did Bacchus get in Boston Oh hold on That was that That was a lot of money Jesse's pulling it all up There was Bacchus 6 million till 2021 How old is Bacchus going to be

32 right now He's 32 now Do that math There are another team that might as well go for it 37 when it's over Oof. Yeah, see, Boston's loading up, too. They might as well.

I think they're in the same situation as Vancouver, where their owner won't accept a season where they don't get playoff dates. Well, there's that, but also, like, are you— I think they had to make a choice. Are we going to trade Chara at the end of his career, or are we just going to run him into the ground? And, you know, Bergeron's kind of in his peak, or his prime. Tukarask is in his prime.

even though we're still not a great team we gotta find a way to go for it So what's with getting rid of Lucic? I guess they may be too rich for their blood But then you sign back his and you give him all his money In that case, you know Jesse, I don't have an answer

for you. I don't get it Don Sweeney is a very confusing general manager. Benning, at least we know what he's doing Sweeney, he's selling he's buying he's oh he acquired

Martin Jones oh he got rid of Martin Jones wow it was for a first that's a pretty good haul who did he draft with those firsts and then

that's a baffling team yeah baffling team oh I do have to correct myself okay uh

I got heated on the PK segment oh a little a little heated Steve I got a little heated um so did you see somebody timed it

no there's somebody on Twitter You went off for, I think it was like seven minutes or something. Without a breath, pretty much. Without anybody else getting a word in. Well, the other person in the room. But yeah.

Anyways, go ahead. I was ripping on the Atlantic Division, which sucks. And I called the Sens a clown car. They have their issues. I'm still not too afraid of them, but I think they could surprise some people. They'll be third after Toronto and Buffalo in a couple years. Ooh, an interesting thought. That's possible.

That's possible. I'll give you that. Anderson can do some things. Franz Nielsen in Detroit was way too much money. And I knew it. I knew it. They freed up all this cap space

and I'm like, this has a bunch of mistakes written all over it. Is that not the consistent theme throughout all the deals? A little too much money, maybe one more year too much. And to stick up for those guys,

like those players, that's the unrestricted free agent price. They're not overpaid. They're paid what an unrestricted free agent makes. You know? If you are sought after, Somebody's going to pay too much. Someone's going to pay too much.

You know what? I bet you a bunch of teams offered them reasonable contracts. And they lost out to the teams that offered too much. That's how free agency works, isn't it? Yeah, it's true. It's true. Yeah, you know what? $20 million over four years is a lot of money.

Tell you what? this team offered me 35 and i'm gonna go with that you know what i'm gonna turn down the all the whole boatload of money take the reasonable deal i'll take the one that's my value totally unless then you start getting into like steven stamko's victor headman territory where they both took haircuts but are still some of the most highest paid players in the league yeah when when you get into that territory then you start seeing like discounts and stuff or brian campbell that was another one supposedly the panthers offered him one year five mil he went to chicago for two oh wow pulled a team usulani paul korea sort of thing yeah take him to the discount yeah but

with those rare exceptions because those are the exceptions if you're a sought-after commodity and you're an unrestricted free agent guess what you're getting ready to pay me you are and you will there's no um team spending because they thought the salary gap would be a little higher right though those it was known that level won't change nobody's yeah okay no i i think uh a lot of teams ditched got the other amazing thing is you didn't see teams shy away from spending um you just you saw them ditch some players but in preparation for knowing they can't help themselves yeah they're gonna go out and sign other guys like the oilers were the oilers last year, still, and they got Lucic

and now they're like, they're a little bit cash, uh, not cash strapped, cap strapped a little bit like there aren't too many teams with a lot of cap space and the ones that do, don't actually have a lot of money, you know, the Coyotes the Ducks have an internal cap the Sens have an internal cap, the

biggest anomaly is the Panthers they go out and they sign Demers to a boatload of money Reimer okay, we never, we haven't talked about that, right? No, no, no, no, no Do we have time? If you want to come back on the next segment, we can.

Let's do that. So we'll come back finishing up NHL free agency, and then I guess we'll get to NBA free agency right after that. I have questions. Okay. I have questions, and those questions are coming up on Sportsnet 590 The Fan. This is the Panicle Pizza Steve Dangle Podcast. Rhyme time!

Yay! He is a Florida Panther, James Riemer. Yes. Odd deal? No. I like that he took the Tyler Bozak deal. What does that mean? Number 42, Tyler Bozak makes 4.2

James Reimer, number 34 makes 3.4 for the next 5 years I like that. You know that's on purpose And knowing James Reimer they're like, alright James, we'll offer you 3.5 No, no This is more than enough

I just, this will be cool This will be super cool That was a very odd deal because, okay, it makes sense in that Luongo's supposedly going to miss the first month of the season. Oh, really? Surgery, he just got surgery in May. But what about the other four years there?

Yeah. I guess they're anticipating a decline in Luongo. Do they see this as a goalie tandem from here on out? Not quite, but I think they would like to lighten Luongo's workload. You know, he went very hard last season, and he performed very well. But as a result, you know, he needs surgery. He's getting a little older. I don't think this is...

He's 37 now? Yeah, no, that's a good signing. That's a good signing. That's a very good backup plan. And I like what the Panthers are kind of doing. Because I haven't really looked at their roster hard, but I think they were signing guys like, well, if one of them gets claimed in the expansion draft,

what are you going to do? it's entirely possible Reimer gets claimed yeah because you need a player from each team but you'd think there are other goalies out there that Las Vegas will want you never know

like if Fleury doesn't get traded you never know or if he has to be protected there's too many I like the Panthers approach to the fantasy draft or maybe I'm completely misreading it but like too many teams are I think if you're in the Leafs position

where all your players are young and you want to protect your young players, that's fine. But I think if... Players are going to get taken. Yeah. Deal with it. Every team is going to lose one.

Like, you can't... At least. Yeah, you can't completely lose your mind and change your whole organization because you're going to lose one guy. Because everyone's going to lose one guy. Play your cards right,

it won't be an amazing guy. um but yeah i mean he seems like a prime candidate for vegas okay that's interesting because i was looking at this year's this year right the need for a backup for luongo they got one right or well not even a backup a temporary starter um i wonder if they signed him no that's a stupid conspiracy yeah well see now they got luongo reimer and barra because i remember looking at that going Barrow's not that great. Is he really going to be Luongo's backup? I don't think that's a great idea.

So I wonder if they sign this knowing they needed a starter for the first month. Reimer's probably going to play a chunk of games this season. And he might get taken. I think they probably know. Okay. See, I think they could have gone in a different direction. They could have gone with,

hey, we'll trade for one of the goalies that are out there. And then just build for the future. He's 37, and he's injured. How long is Luongo going to be there? Maybe we go after Bishop. We have Bishop. That's our future goalie. Luongo's done after this season.

That's the Tampa Bay Lightning's goalie, though. Yes, that's true. He's probably not going to go to Florida. That's the thing, right? Do you want one of Dallas' goalies? No, no, no. No? No, you don't want one of Niemi or Lennon.

No. I'll take Reimer over either of those guys, and he's cheaper. Would you take Fleury? Yeah, but then you're paying your goalies like $11 million or something like that, and it's Fleury and Luongo. I think the Panthers made the right move in net. Okay. They could have gone for a cheaper guy like Enroth or something like that.

He's still a free agent. Yeah. I'm still going to pay on that. I'm still on the Jonas Enroth train. Who's left? Who needs a goalie? I mean, Dallas still. They need to get rid of a goalie and then get a goalie.

I don't know. Calgary filled their spots. They got Chad Johnson and Brian Elliott. Trying to think of who Edmondson's backup is. Might just be Laurent Brassois. That's the problem. I think the ship has kind of sailed. Carolina decided to go with Ward and Lack again, bizarrely.

Tampa's going to need a goalie when they get rid of Bishop, which sounds like it may actually happen. Oh, Edmondson's going with Jonas Gustafsson. They signed Jonas Gustafsson? Yes. When did that happen? One year, $800,000. Is this like today?

No, I think a few days ago. What? Yeah, he's on their general furniture page. How did I completely miss that? There you go. The monster is back in Canada. Whoa. This was on July 1st.

Wow, I totally missed that. Gustafson for $800,000. There was too much. Yeah. There was just too much. It was way too much. Over 100-something signings? Yeah, I was at the gym on July 1st,

I got finished right at noon and I was I had to drive home I'm like I'm just putting my phone away so I don't crash like there's way too much going on

you were at development camp yes I was how was that it was development camp okay

it seemed pretty obvious what everyone was there for Matthews Matthews Mania Matthews Matthews there were a ton of media because a lot of them

only wanted to go to day one which was in Toronto the rest of it's in Niagara Falls oh and you could tell the reporters that were going to niagara falls because they're like well i don't need to wait around for so and so this player that this player because i'll see them sometime over the next few days but basically everybody um was either writing about matthews no that's it

they were writing about matthews that's it um so i was at one point actually for like at least half an hour the only media member still waiting next to the ice for interviews because i knew i was only going to do the Toronto date, and my mantra was, anybody but Matthews. Anybody but Matthews, anybody but Marner. You know, I just, I don't write as fast as

everyone else, man. I don't. And I knew we had the podcast today, and I'm like, I don't want to be second, or third, or ninth, or 25th when it comes to Matthews. So I'll write about someone else. Look for articles on Travis Dermott, Leafs defensive prospect.

He's been in the organization for a little bit now. Uh, he was drafted last year. Oh, okay. Not that long. Second round. Okay. Yeah. Um, and he was very nice to talk to.

And Joseph Wool, who is a goalie prospect. See, all the forwards went first. Yes. And of course, Matthews is a forward. Marner is a forward. A few people wrote about Jeremy Bracco. There was Adam Brooks. And like, there were a lot of, uh, exciting prospects.

Then the defenseman came on and people just kind of went, nah, we're going to go right. Oh. So I'm standing down there like, well, I can just wait for these guys then. Yeah. So, yeah. That's so weird. I don't know why more people wouldn't take the strategy. You didn't.

You'd be like, hey, everybody has this Matthews take. Let me get these other guys. So I get emails on Sportsnet's traffic, website traffic. I think the sign-off is gone. Well, I used to think the writing about big names thing, just because their big names was BS? No. Not at all.

Not at all. After the first two days, less than 48 hours actually, of Berkshire posting that article he wrote, the Subban trade might be the worst in the Habs history. Less than 48 hours after he wrote that, that article had enough page views that if each page view was a person,

it would have been a top 15 city in Canada. holy crap and he doesn't get those emails so i told him and he was like wow he the traffic that article got was like five times what i would expect it was unbelievable unbelievable and that's because you're writing about the biggest thing at the moment and it's passionate well-written article yeah and i'm also i'm very picky like i'm what other angle on Matthews are we possibly going to take

there are so many and I just I didn't feel like it Travis Dermott will probably be an interesting prospect for the organization and Joseph Wohl

we're not going to see until like next year's development camp because he's going to go to school yeah we talked about that

so I will write about that little interesting story little teaser okay so Leafs draft Joseph Wohl I can't

I think fourth round and the Leafs throw a huge party it was a big party at the draft and it was supposed to be for all their draftees their family

their friends it's like a playboy mansion kind of thing it sounded like a very big party and they had 11 draft picks you know how many

draft picks they had that were actually at the draft in Buffalo out of the 11 3 2 Matthews

Wool end of list oh no so I'm like was there a lot of leftover food he's like yeah it was like a wedding oh no yeah yeah so i mean development camp whatever you get to see the players skate yeah it was nothing nothing really interesting it was mostly a here's the facilities thing um we'll get some video of you that we can analyze

for the development camp which really starts in niagara today that was all uh matthews they You roomed him with Timoshev, I think. Yes, his teammate is Dmitry Timoshev, who's apparently starting with the Marlies. I didn't know that was a given. I didn't know that either. There are actually a lot of players at the Leafs development camp right now who don't know.

They don't know if they're going back to junior or playing with the Marlies. Marner being one of them. Well, Marner is junior or the Leafs. Or NHL, yes. So he was a really interesting one. He's 163 pounds, Mitch Marner. That was the quote that's been going around.

He wants to put on a couple pounds Because I think he needs to Well, I mean, my God His goal is to be 170 by camp That's his goal That's not even what he currently is I mean, if you're good, you're good But

Goudreau is like 150 something, right? Oh, maximum Maximum That's the other thing with Marner I look at that and I go, oh my goodness And then I think, well, okay Most of the league's small players are dirty, dirty liars.

It's amazing how often I'll stand next to an NHL player and I'll go, yeah, really? I can see right over your head. Yeah, you're a dirty liar. See, for me, things are kind of thrown off because I'm taller than most people. That is different for you. So if I stand next to most people, I say,

hmm, I can see right over your head. It doesn't help that all the Leafs PR people, they have like four of them. They're all like, I think the shortest one is like 6'3". Seriously The guy for the Marlies Is like 6'6 6'7

And he stands next to Stands next to Marner Standing next to Mark Archibald Who is this child Standing next to Yeah Yeah so Development camp

Not too exciting But I did get to see Matthews in a Leafs jersey Skating around With the 64 63 Wearing 63 And Marner

Yeah So Matthews was wearing 63 Instead of 34 Marner was wearing 84 instead of 93 Bracco was wearing 60 which I which can't be his number because no one wears 60 except for like Jose Teodor um yeah I guess on one hand you could assign Matthews 34 release the Leafs jerseys now and make several million dollars a couple literally the highest selling jersey in

the league probably this season um but i guess the organizational mantra is none of those players have made the nhl yet i don't think any of them have even played an nhl game uh matthews doesn't have a contract matthews doesn't have a contract marner does but he hasn't played an nhl game uh a small handful of them have played any ahl games um i get it i disagree because making money is awesome but i get it and people are saying oh line a signed purely rv signed matthew should be signed but you know they have the whole summer it doesn't matter just leave it just leave it alone it's not an issue there was um a big thing on uh general fanager tweeted it it was um it was um so entry-level contracts are bonus laden right yes um

the maximum entry-level deal which i assume is what matthews will get is 925 000 but the cap hit because of bonuses is like 3.75 yeah chris johnston wrote an interesting article and you broke down those cap details actually it's up on sportsnet.ca oh perfect yeah so what general fanager tweeted about it was only two players in like the last decade or something who were top four picks, didn't get their Schedule B bonuses, which are, I don't know, certain bonuses. I'm sure Schedule B bonuses

are given for league-wide excellence, such as trophy nominations or finishing among the scoring leaders, making them extremely tough to hit. Supposedly two players haven't hit them. Adam Larson, Lou Lamorello draft pick in New Jersey, Mitch Marner,

not a Lou Lamorello draft pick, but he's with Toronto under Lou Lamorello right now. So, Is Matthews going to get his bonuses I mean it's Lou No It's Lou He'll find a way

It'll be the first time ever Is that a first overall pick? It's been 12 years I think 11 or 12 years since they've had these bonuses in And all 11 have had Max bonuses Yeah because the first overall pick Tends to be pretty good

You know? i don't i think he'll end up getting it maybe that's the hold up is they have to convince him look man this is the one time you gotta yeah and the holdover is because if they don't schedule in the bonuses in the cap they could have some overages for next season yes the leafs are in a very interesting cap situation which a lot of people oh that was another part of my paul akrant so many people are worried about the cap situation it's july 4th chill yeah give it a second. There's going to be a lot happening between now and the beginning of the season.

We're four days past when free agency opened. Who's looking at the Leafs roster right now and going, done! Line combinations. Done. Start pouring them. Got it. Blue ball. First line. Absolutely. Based on money, yeah.

Yeah. There's a lot going on. I'm concerned. Really? You ever sit in the passenger seat and you see your friend start to careen into another lane? And you're like, he's driving. I'm not going to say anything.

Yeah, they got it. I'm going to be polite. And it's not until the very last minute. Oh, my God. Right now, I'm trusting them to get back into their lane. They're fine. Okay. I don't know.

Maybe they were looking at, I don't know. They saw a sign that they liked. Mm-hmm. A sign? Do you often see signs that you like? Dude, I drive hungry a lot. Okay. I mean, imagine you see this gorgeous Panicle Pizza sign.

Mm-hmm. And you're just like, that sounds pretty good. and all of a sudden you're in oncoming traffic. Okay. So you need to fix that. Or Iggy's like screaming in the back

and you're like kind of drifting because you're trying to deal with Iggy and you're like calm down Iggy. For some reason I was picturing Iggy screaming

like an angry eight-year-old. Dad! My DS is out of batteries! Or whatever kids play. How often do you talk to your dog like it's a human? Um,

what? I was talking to the dog is a daily occurrence in our house and it's me and it's her it's uh it's never only

one of us okay yeah we're brutal okay um do we move on to Senor Durant yes

if you'd like because I'm very I'm very excited okay okay what are your thoughts Ken Durant signs with the

Golden State Warriors who were the best regular season team in the history of the National Basketball Association and they missed the championship

by four points yes And they added one of the greatest Peer scorers to ever play basketball To their Historically great lineup Now Let me throw this out there

Because I don't know a lot about basketball They were talking about What was the Knicks rumor It was Dwight Howard Who went to Atlanta And Derrick Rose right Yes they got Derrick Rose And they got Joachim Noah

And then Dwight Howard went to Atlanta Oh so he didn't end up Okay, so Faisal Khamisa, who we were going to have on the show, we will at some point, he was on with Jeff Blair. And they were talking about the Howard rumor. And he's like, there's only one basketball on the court, right? So with the Warriors, there's only one basketball. It's not like you add Kevin Durant and there's an extra 30-something points per game.

There's only one basketball, right? Yeah. This was the thing everybody says. If there's 10 seconds left in the game, who takes the shot? whoever's the most open kevin durant passed to steph curry do you does steve kerr drop a play so kevin durant's passing the ball steph curry and then do you have kevin durant who's an mvp happy that he's passing the ball to another mvp is that okay there's one basketball who wants the 30 points who wants to average the 30 10 and 8 who wants the ring who wants

I think you don't sign with Golden State Warriors because they can pay you the most. Did they pay him the most? No, the most money you can make was re-signing in OKC because you get a Larry Bird deal. Well, there you go. So I think he's going in with an understanding. You know, he's going in...

Could this team beat the LeBron James Miami Heat from a few years ago? Well, I think this year's Cleveland Cavaliers could have beat the LeBron James Miami Heat. Oh, snap. Because this year's Cleveland Cavaliers beat the best team ever. That's true. Making this year's Cleveland Cavaliers the best team ever.

There you go. You know? Done. I had one basketball tweet yesterday. Did you? Where I can't remember if it was Stephen A. Smith or Skip Bayless because they're basically the same person. But they were like,

Michael Jordan would have never left his team for a superstar team. And I'm like, Michael Jordan left basketball to go play baseball. That was ridiculous. And I still had a few people tweeting like, well, you know, he just wanted to challenge himself. I'm like, no, no, no. He left after he won three rings. That's stupid. What are your thoughts on people saying Kevin Durant's just going to chase the ring and he shouldn't be allowed to do this and he's going to form a superstar team?

Like all the hate LeBron received when he went to Miami, now all the hate's going to Kevin Durant. History just happens over and over and over again. The world is one giant stage, and the only play is Groundhog Day. Which is a play now. Is it? It's a play now. Is it on Broadway? No, I made it up in my head.

Oh, well, fine. It's amazing how we just recycle things every few years. Every few years. Like, and the fans are doing the same things. They're burning their jerseys. I saw some fans shooting their jerseys with, like, semi-automatic guns. Give that person a gun. America.

America. Happy America Day to all of you, by the way. Yesterday, yes. Oh, was it yesterday? Yeah, July 4th, yesterday. Oh, so, sorry, today's July 5th. I've been screaming it's July 4th all episode. You did a couple times, though.

Sorry, the drive-in flustered me. But, I mean, he's going to win a ring. Someone try to beat him. Okay. Did anyone think that the Warriors were going to be beaten this year? No. No, and they were. so the exciting thing it's funny basketball is really making me rethink this whole parody thing

because i will watch warriors games if they're just on tv to see if someone beats them one of the one of the most if not the most iconic wins in raptors history was a meaningless regular season game where they beat the michael jordan bulls in in the rogers center in front of 40 000 people Because no one expected them to. That's it. That's it. My argument is always, what do you remember in sports? You remember the champions.

You remember the dynasties. The most interesting thing in the National Football League is the New England Patriots. Because they've had a dynasty for the last 15 years and nobody can do that. You need to be next level to finish second and be remembered. And there's only two that I think we're ever going to remember. and one's in recent memory so we might we might forget it

one the Patriots team who lost to the Giants yup because they weren't supposed to two this year's

um Warriors losing to the Cavs mhm because of the 3-1 because of the record because of a lot of things because of 3-1

versus Golden State in the Western Conference finals everything like the Leafs coming back and winning four straight to win the Stanley Cup

in 1942 I'm not even sure who they beat to do that I think it was Detroit one of four other teams right? five other teams

I know exactly exactly during the middle of the second world war yeah way back when what do you

what do you know about baseball? the evil bad Yankees and that one time the Marlins beat them you know it's I've never

I've never understood the argument for parody in sports uh because dynasties drive revenue i understood it people tune into games like you're not you're a casual basketball fan yeah you'll turn tune into a game of steph curry's going off on the what the greatest regular season team of nba history i think i'm i think i'm gonna come up with a term i'm an elevated casual fan yeah like because i watched the raptors run and then i kept watching like does that make sense yeah you know what i mean because you're a deep sports fan right

that's true too that's true too i always look at things where in sports where i'm like if i'm not interested this this thing's in trouble because like i'm top one percent of sports fans i think yeah like when it comes to obsession i'm not good at anything else no you made your life around it so it's going pretty well for you yeah there you go thank good goodness yeah I remember the champions and

one of the best things about the Miami Heat a few years ago was watching other teams try to beat them not one

a few of them did not two not three not four not five but six dynasty

dynasty they got they went to what's LeBron at six straight finals I believe so is it consecutive Six straight consecutive finals.

Was it Cavs? Heat, heat, heat, heat. Cavs. Yes. Yes. It's stupid. And he's only won three of them. It's stupid.

And then he went to one early in his career with Shaq and no one with the Cavs. And he lost there and he got swept. Wait, so he's been to seven? Yeah, he's been to seven. And he's three and four, I think, I believe. That's disgusting. You're still losing record in the final. Like, if you go back, every NBA final has featured LeBron James.

Yeah. And that's what we'll remember. Exactly. So, we remember MJ. We remember MJ. Dude, MJ was so good, we remember the players who played with MJ. Yeah. You shouldn't know Dennis Rodman at this point.

Like, Dennis Rodman, Scottie Pippen, I believe. Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr. Tony Kukoc? Was he a boy for a while? Yeah, yeah. Or am I thinking of someone else? No, I think you got that.

I think those are the names we know. Like, that's disgusting! That's disgusting! That's when I was, like, at my neighbor's house playing, like, NBA 2K, made my own creative character. My buddy would never play me because he thought I was funny. He was older. Like, it's just... I can't hate the guy because he took less money.

And it's a business. It's a business. These teams will trade you like you're nothing. Yeah. I think it was Deadspin today. They wrote an article about it. And they said, replace all the team, every time somebody writes team in an article, with workplace. And just think about your job.

If you got offered a better job at a better company, a company that was making more money, a company that was winning in terms of teams, winning more. And they said, hey, come work for us and you'll have more fun here and you'll be more successful in your career. Would you not take that job immediately? no because i'm unhappy at my job so you know what i'm gonna do i'm gonna put a bunch of gasoline on this jersey take it to the lake and shoot it with all my friends exactly by the way you can afford guns so it was oh the way they're treating him in oakland you can't hate on kevin you know what i mean okay so yeah you can't hate on him for going to a better place and wanting to win no that's the point of it but here's the thing jesse yes you absolutely can

A lot of people do Yeah A lot of people do The sports But getting Well including Durant But When contract offers

Are made in basketball Does the Dr. Evil music Just play After every number Is said Okay what How do

What's the cap In basketball right now Like the The cap number Yeah I think it's 92 million Didn't it go up By like 16 million

Or something Yeah it went up I think 30 percent And next year One year? Yes. And next, because they signed a massive new TV deal. And then there's a whole bunch of new revenue sharing.

And then the LA Clippers sold to, after Donald Sterling drama, they sold for $2 billion. Oh my. That's two Leafs. Exactly. So the money in the NBA is ridiculous. And next year, the cap's going up. Again.

To, I think, $130 million they're projecting. Oh my God. So you're just getting dumb money. Bismack Biambo a man who should not be making the money he makes is making let me think about this

he's making I think about 9 million dollars more per year than Sidney Crosby I'm pretty sure I think if you tack on Sidney Crosby's endorsements it still wouldn't add up to Biambo's salary

in Orlando or who are the other big guys that was the scary thing for me when players whose names I didn't even really recognize started getting like 15 million plus. Mozgov. Who I've heard of and that's it. On the Cavs, who played a total of 16 minutes

in the entire NBA Finals. On a team that won the championship. He averaged six points in the regular season. That's pretty good. I think he's making 70 million dollars. That's so ridiculous. So is this because basketball is doing so awesome or because they're definitely going into a lockout?

I don't think they're going to go into a lockout. I think there's a lot of money running around in basketball, and I think the American sports market is just so much greater than what the NHL is doing. If you look at the NFL, if you look at baseball, there are guys, Miguel Cabrera's total contract, he could buy one-third of the Detroit Tigers. yeah his contract's like 300 million dollars and i think the team's worth 900 million

wow so if you look at the money in american sports it's getting a little absurd there this is the bubble i don't know if it's ever gonna burst because live sports is such a such a great revenue generator but there's a lot of money in there right now well i think it's starting to get to the point where you can't go to a sporting event you think so yeah like i i It was so funny when, like, listening to Pittsburgh Penguins fans talk when I was there, just talking about going to the Stanley Cup final. That's not a thing. If the Leafs made it to the final, that's not a conversation that would be had.

It'd be like, hey, did you find a way to get tickets? And the answer would probably be no. Even here for the Raptors games, the Raptors games were absurd for the nosebleed. Yeah, the camera bed. We've got to wrap it up here on the fan, actually. Oh, shoot. We can come back after we leave the fan and talk about this a little more if you want. Okay.

Are we done? Yeah, we're a little over time. Oh, my goodness. Well, okay. Tell you what. If you are listening on the radio, if you are someone who discovered the show on the radio, and I think you're in the minority, but if you're someone who discovered the show on the radio, check us out.

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People are making money! You know, you couldn't get a Raptors ticket. This playoff run. Yeah, so to finish that thought, just hearing fans casually talk about going to a playoff game, not just a playoff game, a final game. I'm like, oh, you'd live somewhere different. you don't realize

how neat this is if you don't mind me asking yes or if Mike Darnay doesn't mind me asking how much was your ticket to down in Pittsburgh

oh well I didn't pay for it but I think it was around the $200 range okay which are like platinums in the

regular season when the Leafs play like the Blue Jackets no offense Blue Jackets a ticket okay

I assume they'll open up standing room tickets once the Leafs make playoffs because they did that for the Raptors dude they did that

for the Marlies yeah what is a stanley cup a final game with the leafs and kings let's say you're gonna cost for standing room let me tell you you're paying 30 bucks to stand in maple leaf square and watch on the screen okay that's outside that's outside the fucking building probably i i bet mls you would be like no we would never charge for that my foot there are 30 000 people trying to watch the thing on the screen outside you're charging at some point you're charging to sit in the nosebleeds that are like a color i don't even

know like purple or something uh like obstructed view you might get for 200 you think like you think that much or that little that little oh yeah no that's obstructed view everything else i think no you're right you know somebody to say i'm in the building for the leaf stanley cup final game minimum 500 bucks 500 bucks because like i would consider dropping 200 just to be like i was there but i think there's a lot of people who would say yeah i'll drop 200 and that lot of people is going to drive that price up. Would I drop a mortgage payment? Cause like it's one mortgage payment.

That mortgage is still going to be there after the cup finals done. Ah, my God. Yeah. How much would you pay? Do you have a limit? Would you pay a thousand dollars? It's complicated for me because,

well, okay. One, I work for a sports outlet, so I would try to get credentials, But that would be the most Attended cup final Ever in terms of coverage

So Odds are I'm so far down the sports In a totem pole I wouldn't get it You never know Yeah I'd pay a grand Really? Yeah I'd pay a grand Mr. I don't pay for anything in my entire life Yeah and now I'm using those savings

To buy a ticket to the Stanley Cup final All those Nike shirts They're gonna pay off There you go there you go maybe i could even gg some of them steve dangle is sweating these shirts so that that you know that becomes two thousand dollars when you take mrs dangle oh how's she getting in your money seat oh my god yeah i guess i would yeah dude that's like a flight that's like a

return flight to like somewhere really fancy oh my god and by the way those are shitty seats oh that's yeah no you're not even coming close to the ice oh my god Nylander's gonna be down there

he'll be like is that him I can kind of see his jersey bring binoculars forget them at home have to buy $50 binoculars

from the vendor sometimes it makes me emotional when I think about it what it would be like to see a Leafs team that was really good and in the cup final

you ever just think about it like something you know will never happen just like You just dream about it That'd be cool And then you go back to your life

And then you go back to whatever you were doing And then you go back to traffic in Whitby Before you get to traffic in Scarborough Do you want to talk about your commute now? No I don't Okay I don't want to bring down the mood Good no no Cause I realize it's not interesting

How many times can I be like Ah I was bad You should live downtown Steve Yeah I know This Saturday UFC 200 I'm going to bring up the card here It's very frustrating for me

It's a very stressful time Because Wayne Simmons has a Charity Ball hockey game that day And I want to go to that and get some interviews But it's also the day of the Durham Craft Beer Festival Which is one of my favorite days of the year Because it's an event

That's actually near my house Actually In my neighborhood roughly And there's beer there And it's really good beer but it's also UFC 200 yes and my buddy wants

well Nate wants to host a thing at Young and Eglinton which is not near Oshawa at all but all these things could be wrapped up before 10pm right

is that when the card starts well like I don't even want to miss the undercard no the undercard is so good do you have the card in front yes I do

oh my god okay so all UFC fans I'm sorry don't worry we'll we'll bring up interesting stuff later

I have some firework stories I want to bring up Diego Sanchez and Joe Lozon are on the prelims that's probably like this

the co-main event or like second or third fight down on most cards you know and that's a prelim fight that's the co-main event

on most nights that's so ridiculous and there's guaranteed blood because Lozon uh Sage Northcutt's fighting in the prelims on Fox Sports 1

that was that was the pre-prelims by the way that's a fight pass prelims That's smart, though. Yeah. Because I think they think the future is in Sage Northcutt.

How old is he, 20? Oh, he's young and he's very handsome. Very handsome? I mean, for now. He looks like, oh, yeah, before he gets his face cut in. He's like Captain America in real life. Yes. Yes.

Having him for free, you never know. Some people might buy the fights who weren't going to. All right. And get into UFC. Johnny Hendricks is fighting on the prelims. That's the first fight of the prelims. Johnny Then we can move on

Didn't Adam just interview him? I think he did Did he? It was Big Rig, right? Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Adam just spoke to him Interesting

And then we have On If we go to the main card We got Cain Velasquez And Travis Brown Which could be Headlining anything I think

You know what? That's a great That's a big break For Travis Brown I think He's also gonna get stomped Yeah, I was gonna say Do you think

Because Cain Kane's probably going to win. Kane's missed a lot of time, though. So has Travis. Because he's been doing other ventures as well, right? That's true. I bet Kane stomps him. Okay.

And then Jose Aldo, Frankie Edgar. That's like a premium headline fight. That's like, you know, you see some UFCs, some headlines, you go, eh, I could miss that one. This is one of those can't-miss headlines, and it's not the headline. Aldo fighting any time is a must-watch. even Edgar man

yeah I mean he's not the same name as Aldo but like that's that's going to be a very good fight Edgar's getting up there in age as well

yeah and then your third fight down is Misha Tate and Amanda Nunez that's Misha Tate's first title defense

in the UFC unbelievable I'm surprised they didn't go with the rematch Tate home versus Ali yeah

I'm wondering what the thought process is there is it too soon well because do you just limit the women's division to three fighters yeah because that's basically what it is there's rousey who we don't know when we're ever going to hear from her again we don't know if she's going to just turn her movie star yeah if i mean when

you think about it you want to take traumatic blows to the head or you want to make millions of dollars doing something else yeah you should probably do that uh like no like i mean as a sport fan i want her to continue fighting that's a good point logically logically fighting is never a good idea. No. Just as a career in general, probably not. Unless you're really good at it. Even then. Even then, still not a great idea to do it for

long. No. So yeah, it's her, Tate, and Holm. They're just going to be the Kopitar, Taves, Bergeron, Selkie trophy race. And then Cyborg, if Cyborg ever comes down to the weight class. I don't know if they'll ever let her.

No. Dude, okay, people were, did you? oh yeah we were we watched that fight together her first fight yes yes we did that was a an appropriate stoppage right oh 100 she was gonna kill the girl so many people were like oh man early stop it okay she was a little bit dead yeah if they stopped it like regular stoppage she would have been regular dead like that it was it was done and that woman i don't even remember her name but like tough as nails for wanting to continue but she was gonna get killed also i don't i don't i don't want to break this up but cyborg's probably had a few steroids in her body

in her day ufc is interesting because i feel like they're all on steroids at one point or currently like i don't think mcgregor's roiding up right now or anything like that wasn't there some shenanigans with lesnar where he is not technically on them now yes so but he yeah sorry so they they're since the deal was done so late they you're supposed to be tested the last it might be six months or a year i think it's four months four months prior to your fight yeah since lesnar is just coming in all all loosey-goosey they're like hey we'll waive that for you so we'll start testing you after we signed this contract not the four months prior like a month yeah come on come on that's ridiculous yeah that's so ridiculous you know oh yeah so you had a quote

from lesnar that made you think he was gonna win yeah so because i think hunt's gonna win i'll take that money they asked him to like contextualize his fight and he said i can swear here it's radio portion non-radio portion he said i don't really give a shit i don't sit up at night and wonder is my drawing power going to hurt or are my wwe fans going to tune in and watch me do this i don't give two shits about that this is about me i want to get in there and be an athlete again that's what it's about so that was his comment on his wwe marketability and i think that's a sign that hey he's like this isn't a one-off this is this is fucking serious for lesnar this isn't a joke anymore

he's gonna keep doing it I think so cause he's saying straight up he doesn't give a shit about the WWE he doesn't care if he doesn't go back

this is this is his game right now the heavyweight division is in deep shit that's the case he might kick Mark Hunt's ass you know

maybe I'm looking into one quote too much you know see okay Mark Hunt's punching power is no joke

and Lesnar is known for not being able to really take a punch in training. He doesn't like it. Like, I mean, not that anyone does, but he gets frustrated. Interesting. I heard that on, I think it was Fighter and the Kid with Brandon Shaw. Yeah, yeah.

Great podcast. Great podcast if you like UFC. That's, if you don't like getting punched and you're in there with Mark Hunt, I think you're gonna have a bad time. It's gonna be a bad time. It's gonna be a bad time. I watched that episode yesterday for some reason. If they can If Lesnar can draw it out

Make it about conditioning Then maybe Mark Hunt Has a bad time If he takes Mark Hunt To the ground Mark Hunt is going to Have a bad time Lesnar's forearms

Will swallow him whole It's a very And that's Mark Hunt Yeah That's a very interesting fight That's fascinating And we haven't even gotten That's not even

That's not even it Okay That's the best card ever Now Who you got? Oh Jonjo oh

Daniel Cormier I don't think you can miss as much time as Jon Jones has don't say it I don't want to I don't want to say it man who did Cormier fight last I don't remember

you don't even know oh fuck I don't know off the top of my head no because that Saint Prue guy or pro Jones didn't really kick his

ass that wasn't an overly convincing fight man and that should have been easier than it

was I don't have his last fight here and he he also didn't beat the shit of the Cormier

last time Alexander Gustafson I mean that's a good win yeah that was his title defense yeah

damn five round decision it was a split decision well it's not a good win then yeah I think Jones decision Jones okay because you made me

use my brain um I'm going with John Jones in a knockout you think I don't think this fight gets finished no

no I feel like they're both tough I think Jones has too much to prove to get knocked out he won't let himself get knocked out

and I think he wants to put on a show to be like I'm fucking back I'm Jon Jones see but that it's fighting though yeah

it makes him a state yeah it's fighting that's so true fighters who put on a show get fucked up that's Rousey that's

I'm gonna stand up with home well see I remember I don't remember who I heard say it it was obviously one of Brandon Schaub

or Joe Rogan um basically she got tagged very early in the fight and basically just fight plan

out the window like I don't think it was a matter of she was trying to stand up with Holly Holm it was just she kinda did

that was about it and went running at her by the end of the fight because she had no that was sad yeah that was

it was also kinda cool seeing it opened the division right up it was seeing somebody who was superhuman get brought back down to earth

I was uh screaming about it with Saski one day who is unbeknownst to me UFC fan. Is she a UFC fan? A little bit.

We should start a little UFC thing. We should. We were yelling about like okay let's assume she beats Holly Holm okay? Okay. What are we waiting on?

We're waiting on what? We're waiting on either Rousey Tate 3 that at that point we assume she wins because remember

she hasn't suffered a knockout at that point. Rousey Zingano 2? Maybe? maybe or a super fight rousey cyborg and she retires

like that's what we were looking at so this makes things a lot more interesting makes it a lot more interesting it makes it sad if she leaves yeah

that'll be that'll suck yeah that'll suck what a run you have firework stories before we have to wrap things up yes

America Day and Canada Day have both passed America Day but I I just saw some things and I thought you would like these stories

I don't know if I've ever told them Please stop me if I have. Okay. Let's go to, I've been dating SL for like two or three weeks. Okay. We're traveling back in time. No, it's about a month.

It's Victoria Day in Canada. So what's that in the States? Veterans Day? Memorial Day? Yes. One or the other. One or the other. Something.

One of those ones. Yeah, I don't want to say the wrong thing. One of those ones. I think it's Memorial Day. I don't know. um and we're firing off um fireworks in a park nearby where i live in scarborough had to burp and um so a few of my friends were arriving late because some of us partook in some of that underage drinking at the time i was 19 i had just turned 19 but a few of my friends not so

much so they they had partook uh so we're like close to running out of fireworks before they arrive okay so i'm like okay you know what we got to still have fireworks going on when these guys get here so we go across the street for those of you who can picture the neighborhood we go to sugar plaza in east scarborough we went to the sugar convenience store um to buy fireworks and i bought 30 worth of fireworks when i was 19 that was so much money that's your life savings life savings and for some reason the only people that went to the store were me

and my friend's little sister not all my buddies who were over in the park which would have been great it was just me and my friend's little sister and we were just talking and I go to buy the fireworks and we go to walk

back and if you can picture the neighborhood if you're from there go walk in by the KFC i'm trying to paint a picture here okay so we're walking out of the plaza there's a kfc at the end of it and it's dark because it's night and behind me as i'm holding my little shit my little plastic bag of fireworks i just hear drop it and i go oh that's not good i turn around there's 20 dudes with uh bandanas covering their face this is a movie i just what this is in the east scarborough east scarborough made the news

oh wow made the news drop it and i had never been mugged before so i just kind of i looked at them all and i was like so i'm eyeing them up and down right and even though they're wearing bandanas i'm looking at a few of you like or a few of them like you fucking i went to high school with you asshole i graduated less than a year ago you're not some tough mugger and no and they were like 16 because i was like okay what grade were they and that's why i wasn't that scared because i'm like okay you're all i know there's like 20 of you but like you're 16 like you guys are idiots i know who you are fuck off so i i didn't say any of those things what i instead said was and i don't know why this was what i decided to come up with i just went no and so i turned around and i just

kept walking i'm right by the road i'm right by lawrence road um so like well visible so i'm like i'm probably fine right all of a sudden behind me i hear i'm like oh what the fuck is that that one of them one of these motherfuckers runs out of the their pack with a roman candle lit and he just starts lighting me the fuck up no just shooting at me to get me to drop the fireworks because are you running at this point well i'm trying to dodge like i'm you know not standing still yeah and so i don't know my instincts just kicked in and i tried to i tried to punch the guy i ran at the guy and he goes are you stupid it was like and i was trying to punch the guy and i'm getting

close to him but like i mean he's obviously trying to dodge me now too he's holding it in his right hand just fucking clobbers me right um on my left temple oh no so close to my eye it singed my eyebrows it singed my hair i had like a semi oh god i went and got my haircut two weeks later and uh like mid haircut the guy's like what the fuck happened to your head man at jingles by the way if you're from the neighborhood he's like what the fuck happened to your head i'm like oh oh yeah about that so at that after that i turned around so you're fighting off a guy with a roman candle so stupid with a bag of fireworks in your in your hand so stupid um and well it's not like they were lit but imagine imagine he goes for your fireworks

and he lights them and you explode and you catch on fire it's a whole different story wow i hadn't actually thought of that that's the first thing that came to my mind when you said somebody lit something i'm like is he gonna go for your fireworks shit i didn't even think that's death fuck i didn't even that was wow that would have been real bad you lose a ham there anyways maybe so uh lights me up and i i know there's only like a certain amount of rounds in a roman candle so just i turn around so two or three into my back and then all of a sudden the all of a sudden all that stops and i don't know why i did this but it was one of the most badass moments of my life so i have my back to them i'm the most hopping mad i've ever fucking been

my jacket is literally smoking and on fire and i just turned around and went like i just screamed as loud as i could and they all they took off oh wow actually they took off that's that bear thing where it's like look larger than the bear oh yeah i was so mad so mad oh my god and I just and I went back across the road and they're like

hey we heard you screaming what happened there I was like you didn't fucking see that you didn't fucking see the fireworks

oh wow you dicks so uh I go home that night and I'm my dad gets up early for work

so I'm like okay this is bad news so I just write a note and I leave it in the bathroom because obviously he's gonna go there first I just go

wake me up before you go to work I have something to tell you Wake me up before you go, go. Sorry. And I think I left my jacket in the bathroom too, which at this point is just a zipper. Because it's been burned to smithereens.

It's been burned. And the reason I did that, by the way, guys, and I think a lot of people listening will sympathize, I just wanted to go to bed. And if my dad found out, it would have been us driving around the neighborhood with baseball bats and hockey. literally baseball bats and hockey sticks

I know that feeling and I'm just like no no thanks but anyway so we get up early and we see the story on I think it was on City TV about these kids having Roman candle wars with each other and I thought it was them but it was in a different neighborhood of Scarborough

further west and so I we emailed them and I go hey I sent them like pictures of my face my jacket I go yeah these guys tried to mug me with fireworks and so they actually came and I was on the news Oh wow In late May 2007

I think you can still find the story Okay But I can't find the video And the interview was so stupid I was like Fireworks are fun Stupid people aren't PSA from Steve Glenn

Two years later Two or three years later I'm walking with my buddy Down the street Same street? No No no no This is like Metavale

Or something like that We're going home from Amigos, which is the bar that we basically kept open while we were in university. And this car rolls up next to us. The windows roll down. We see hands stick out of the window, and I'm like, yo, this is bad. They're about to light you up. Funny you should say that, Jesse, because here's what we hear. Get lit up!

You're in a biggie drive-thru. Fucking two guys. They lit us up with Roman candles. They did a Roman candle drive-by Again, burn my foot, burn my butt Like, fuck, they hurt, man Oh, yeah, it's fire You ever been hit with a Roman candle?

No, but it's fire It's fire, it is fire It hurts, it hurts The impact doesn't hurt The burning hurts So we got lit up We got fucking drive-by You were in a drive-by like Tupac

Yeah, well, that's how I describe the part of Scarborough Biggie, sorry I had to get that right that's how I describe the part of Scarborough I grew up in it was rough enough that I was involved

in a mugging and a drive-by it's nice enough that they were fireworks and not guns oh my god oh yeah

so anyway fuck man my buddy who I was with who we got lit up together which could mean a whole different thing

I know I know you gotta go to work I'll try to be quicker with these but um His dad was a cop, but this was during G20. So his dad is overwrought. Oh, so this isn't that long ago.

No. Yeah, G20 wasn't too long. No, no, no. And so the cops, they basically don't let them sleep during events like those, which is not a good way to run things, I don't think, because I feel like you want cops to be... It's like doctors when they run them on three-hour shifts in the emergency room. Yeah, I kind of want my doctors to be well-rested.

Yeah. So anyway, we call him up, like drunk, you know, telling him what happened. I don't know why we did that. Because you're drunk. I think, oh, we wanted a ride home, I think. And we weren't even that far away. I'm going to just call my dad.

It was the stupidest thing. But we're like, oh, fuck, man, my foot. So anyway, he just tears a strip off my friend, because he's like, these are like the four hours I get to sleep, and you call me with this shit? and we were like oh okay it was sorry so we ended up we called the non-emergency line for the police so we got a ride home and in the back of a cop car but really but i was such a i was such an idiot

that i was putting my hands behind my back on purpose in the back of a cop car to see what it was like and i'm like man this is like not comfortable at all this is like actually yeah this is like a really tight space and the cop in the front seat just goes yeah uh it's uh for bad guys was that the first time you ever rode in the back of a cop car first and only first and last yeah yeah first and only thank god no i uh i only i got a talking to from the cops one time when i was in uh grade eight but it was that's that's a whole another story basically okay i'll be real quickly this one these six kids who were in grade 10 and in the local high school came to my elementary school to beat up an eighth grader oh no and they just showed up in the middle of a yard

and we see them surround our friend and we're all like well there's like 30 of us we just beat up all these great nice if you're coming to elementary school to beat up a little kid One more fireworks story Okay And this is why Did you get lit up again? Well no

As the years passed I couldn't get too mad At those kids Well I mean They tried to hurt me So that's different That's fucked up But in grade 7

We came up with the idea We're like Let's have Roman Candle fights And so we basically Played laser tag With Roman Candle What is wrong with you people In Scarborough?

And so the next year It was either the next year In grade 8 Or like It was like a Victoria Day Canada Day Gap

sort of thing a couple months um we decided to next level it uh it was me and my buddy Jose

and girls hung out with us god knows why um cause you're idiots well and we would like give them rides places on our bike handles

oh well there you go because you know bikes yeah like an NERD video we came up with the brilliant idea to have

to ride our bikes and have have the girls hold the roman candles oh and we basically we basically jousted oh my god you guys are idiots who gave you fire to play with i don't know and joust with no i don't know but the poor girl who was on my bike handles her name was newberg ended well she right in the middle of her forehead and obviously we stopped playing then but it let it bounce right off again another bullet dodged like luckily nothing happened i guess what i'm trying to say is you are so close to

fireworks you idiots oh my god forget death like i could have lost an eye noober could have lost an eye any of my buddy jose could have lost an eye who knows he might have any of the girls on the bike and then you get sued because it's your bike and your candles i assume uh well yeah and those parents are suing you and your parents get involved and it's a whole mess and your entire life is changed and the guilt of hurting your friend

like I mean or getting your friend hurt or putting them in a dumb situation or you mugged someone you know oh that was the other thing so we obviously tell the police we're like so

these guys tried to mug us but they couldn't get the guy because I didn't know who the guy was who lit me up I could only point out a few of the other people who were there, they were like, well, did they just stand there? And I'm like, yeah. They're like, well, we can't do anything.

And the worst we could do is ask them who it was and they're not going to tell us. I feel like police don't want to get involved in these little kids' squabbles. You know? It feels like a parenting thing. Well, yeah, but like, there's also cops

there's also, like, they can't just be like, you were there. you're arrested yeah like you know so there I think they've been through enough experiences where they go

okay so here's how this is gonna end and it's gonna end with nothing so so moral of the story yes

Steve was an idiot from ages I don't know 8 to 26 and now you're now you're okay wait a sec

wait a sec I was the victim in most of those stories now Steve you put yourself in these situations wow Maybe if you were a little smarter

You wouldn't have gotten yourself Almost mugged with Roman canvas Wow I'm just saying Grow up a little Steve I wanted to shoot some fireworks When I was 19 And instead

Grow up My jacket got burned I should go pick that jacket up I think it's still in evidence Do you still have the burn jacket? No I think it's in evidence Oh in evidence What?

Yeah oh wow with the cops and they probably threw up you could pick up evidence I don't know I mean not after nine years

I'm sure it's gone yeah but uh I gotta have pictures of that somewhere I should ask SL oh man the camera I hope the camera

was recording that whole story I think it just turned it probably mixed like last minute or so oh my god yeah so

anyways anyway the reason I told those stories one they're kind of funny oh my god two uh yeah be careful with fireworks man

be careful because I've used up three of my nine lives. A little bit more than that, I would say. Oh my God. Oh goodness. Scarborough stories.

Scarborough stories. And Adam wasn't there for any of those. Okay, I was going to say. It didn't matter that he wasn't there. Holy fuck. So we're down to

one a week. We are, yeah. So I guess the next one is not until next week. Oh, that's kind of sad. I won't see you for another seven days. I hope you don't get lit up

I me too me too because now I worry because like Victoria Day or Memorial Day or whatever

you go well we'll save them for like the next big firework event now there's probably just all these leftover fireworks some kid

in Scarborough is running around with a little too many Roman candles and he might run into Steve Dangle I hope they just keep it at Roman candles

yeah like no worse than that damn damn goodness growing up growing up man crazy things happen you never had anything like that ever not with fire no

didn't have to be with fire no i'm not that dumb i gotta say oh whatever only the the 14 year old one was dumb all right are we gone i think we're going i think i gotta go to work all right go to work i can't wait for you to tell blake how stupid Oh, this is the only thing I'm going to talk about all day. Do you need me on the radio to talk about it?

I don't know. No, I don't think we're going to do any call-ins today. No call-ins at all? No, it's just Blake on our own. Are you just telling me to get me to my own?

No, it's just no Adam. We usually condense the show. So we just do like easier topics. Adam. You know? He's very integral.

He's integral to every part of our lives. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to go try to not get lit up. Moral of the story, give it to us. The more you know, what's the ending? The less you don't know.

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