The Steve Dangle Podcast - The Steve Dangle Podcast - May 10, 2016 - Javelin

Episode Date: May 11, 2016

On this episode, the guys duke it out over Stamkos, scream about WHL names, and discover Hot Take Mountain. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Panago Pizza presents S.C.P. The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde. Okay, so, blah, blah, blah, NHL playoffs, a couple game sevens, who cares? You know what we need to talk about? What? We need to talk about the end, Steve. The end of what, Adam? An era, Steve.

An era! You might say something has been terminated Terminated Forever gone Gone What's that? That is Justin Bieber has decided he's no longer Taking pictures with fans

He says if you happen to see me out somewhere I'm not going to take a picture I'm done I feel like a zoo animal And I thought you guys should know that It's the end of Justin Bieber's picture era Era you know what It's the end of the Justin Bieber era

of people kind of liking him. Yeah, well. Remember when he shut up for a while and people didn't mind him? And then he started getting into fights at clubs again? See, now I'm on his team.

I'm on his team on this one. No, he pushed designer at a club. I watch WorldStarHipHop. I know what he's up to. I know what he's up to. He can't do that. I dare you, Biebs.

If you are considering having children, I suggest highly that you read the entire comment section of Justin Bieber's most recent post. I mean, there's only 61,000 comments.

I would suggest reading the whole thing in its entirety, and you will never have a child. You will never give birth. And by the way, are there that many parents out there that are blissfully unaware of what their children are posting? Oh, yeah. I sent Steve and Jesse a link to an article about a tweet that people got obsessed with

that was sent to Justin Bieber, and I don't think you looked at it, Steve. No. But Jesse did. And I can't repeat what this young girl said Oh that's good She was definitely a teenager And it's so bad

That I would have a hard time even telling you In person over beers It's that bad And you think you've heard it all You have not heard it all until you've seen this tweet Just google the tweet It's there And it is so bad

But parents have no idea Follow your child on Twitter It's not hard Okay but how do I How do I set it up How do I How long should my handle be 75

60 75 characters What's a character And make it about your car Is that like a pixel Make it about your car Please make it about your car Dads please

I drive a Dodge Trax I drive Yeah and then they set their thing to private And you can't You can't see what they're saying So Can we talk about the The most recent UFC card

Most recent UFC card Matthews V. Laine Oh you 2016 Wow Yeah UFC 2016 Can I just

Can we just Can we talk about that game And I know there's a lot of Playoff stuff to get to But what you really want to hear about Is Matthews versus Liney And I know you do And what I

What I don't understand About all of this Is okay So here's Here's what we knew going in What do we know We knew Liney's a great hockey player

Hell yeah Austin Matthews is a great hockey player Hell yeah So we watched the game Finland wins 3-2 And at the end of it What do we know We know that

That Liney is better on account of Finland won. I believe that was the consensus. And I don't understand how that's possible. Even he said he played a terrible game and people are either writing him off as he's terrible or he is the guy that the Leafs need. After all that, I tweeted,

after Canada's blowout win over Belarus, you have to wonder if Conor McDavid is going to go first overall. One has to ask the question. Yeah, that's always it You gotta ask the question The question must be asked It's so funny People get really worked up about tournaments like this

Like, oh my god, did you see Patrick Laine's goal against Belarus? And then the next day, I think Did you see what Austin Matthews did against Belarus? And then the day after Did you see that Canada beat Belarus? It's Belarus! No offense to Belarus, but name a player

on Belarus the Belarusian one exactly no not no any of the either of the Kostitsyns that's the point

I think they had a goalie named Koval who I remember being like maybe a backup when I covered the KHL boom

I know hockey there you go that's it my point is this okay I think here's the I think we're getting a little—we're letting ourselves fall down the Line A v. Matthews thing a little too much.

I had a tweet, and this is not to attack this person personally at all. I totally understand this. But this is a prevailing argument that people are actually making. It was tweeted at us, Steve, in the form of a question, but it still does not hold any—it's crazy. People are actually suggesting that the Leafs would pick Line A because somehow they know that Stephen Stamkos is coming to Toronto. So you're going to draft the pure goal scorer and sign the pure goal scorer. And beyond that, you're going to make a draft choice based on a free agent that you have a 50-50 shot at best of getting. Oh, at best.

At best. Not even close. Probably not even close. I personally say 20. 20% I think that's more than most I would have given them that to get Babcock last year too And they did it

I think we get way too worked up You know what, it's tournaments So we get really worked up About the World Juniors And when it comes to the draft Well, the World Juniors But also the World Hockey Championship It doesn't often line up like this

It's not always Actually what usually happens Is some of the top prospects like McDavid are in a deep playoff run with their OHL, QMJHL, WHL, whatever team. Maybe even

college team. No, no, because that season's over. Anyway, junior hockey, right? So he's not available. You can't have a McEichel show off. This year, Auston Matthews' team is out. Lyon A's, all the finals are done. He won MVP,

did he not? I believe he did. So we got the Oh there you go Right there There's your first pick There's your first pick He's an MVP Hey

And you know what Hot damn Seriously Not easy Hot damn Way to go Good for him I read this thing

On Leafs Nation Theleafsnation.com About Matthew's numbers Versus Lion-A's numbers And they have this algorithm That pro-rates it Because the Swiss League Is considered a better league

Than the Fin League Than the Finnish League Right So if you take the numbers And pro-rate it Jesse I don't know If you can look this up I forget who wrote it.

But basically, Matthews has better numbers. But forget all that. These tournaments get people worked up. You know who everyone got super worked up about at the World Juniors? Jordan Eberle. Well, Jordan Eberle, for sure. And for good reason. Yeah, and he's a great player.

He turned out to be a great player. But this past year, Dmitry Timoshev. Who the Leafs got in the fifth round last year? Who the Leafs got in the fifth round, and I think is a steal. And I think he's going to be a good prospect. but can anyone tell me a damn thing about him since that tournament? No, because you're not watching QMJHL games. No, I think he's in the finals right now.

And by the way, I think he could have been knocked out first round. He might not have even made the playoffs. I don't know, because there's a lot of hockey to watch, and QMJHL isn't at the top of my charts. Yeah, exactly. People get excited. Yeah, and I get that there needs to be some sort of line written, right? I get that there needs to be a narrative about this

that makes it somewhat exciting. But this is a Toronto Maple Leafs team. All you have to do is look at the roster. Just look at the roster. What are they missing? Number one center. A goalie. And a goalie.

Number one center. That's a lot of things. A lot of things. Everything. But the first thing you want to get when you're missing everything is a number one center. Well, and a goalie. Okay, after a goalie is a number one center

because there's no carry price in this draft, right? And even if there was, I'd still be freaked out because drafting a goalie in the top 10 is scary. There might be, man. There might be. Yeah, and this is another thing. People keep saying, you know, the Leafs, they've got to address their goaltending issues.

They've got to draft a goalie this year. You're not going to address a goalie through the draft. Well, and let's pretend... No, no, no, you can't. Not this year. Exactly. Let's pretend you strike gold. Like, odds are, if you get a great goalie in the draft,

a great, ahead-of-the-curve goalie, optimistically they'll make the nhl regularly at 22 so you're looking four years down the road so that's that's not your answer i'm gonna make a video about this so i don't want to blow everything right now but basically the least goaltending situation is extremely exciting but that's not what we're talking about we're talking about matthews versus linea what what i said a few years ago i think it was 2013 there was a big argument there started to be a big debate over Nathan McKinnon going first overall

or Seth Jones going first overall. Who met in the Memorial Cup final that year? Nathan McKinnon's team and Seth Jones. Seth Jones went third or fourth.

I think he went fourth. And that's, look, I'm not knocking Seth Jones, but my argument was, I think he's terrible. No, he's great. He's actually really good.

My argument was Nathan McKinnon has been Nathan McKinnon since he was 16. Like, and what I mean by that is the hype. Right.

Sidney Crosby Has been Sidney Crosby Right? Not that there was any debate Who was going first Right But he was Sidney Crosby Since he was like 14

And we knew We knew he was coming We knew he was coming This kid This kid from Coal Harbor We knew I read about Connor McDavid When he was like 15

Aaron Eckblad I remember people saying Aaron Eckblad's not gonna go first overall Aaron Eckblad was It's been Aaron Eckblad man He's been Aaron Eckblad So are you saying that Austin Matthews

Been Austin Matthews? He's been Austin Matthews. Austin Binthews. No? Not going to stick? No, I don't think so. I don't think that's going to stick.

Fair enough. I love you, but I don't think it's going to stick. You're right. Fine. Now, Lionel's going to be a great player. Matthews is going to be a great player, but we are going to hear about this forever. Yeah, and again, this is going to be about

who's the better player out of this. I've got to say, honestly, for the Leafs, it doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. Let's say Lionel turns out to... For argument's sake, Lainey turns out to be the Ovechkin and the Leafs get the Crosby of this draft.

I'm not saying that Austin Matthews is Sidney Crosby, but let's say... What did you just say? I'll take it. We'll take it. Let's say one is better than the other at one point and one is better. It goes back and forth.

Maybe Ovechkin's having a better few months now. Crosby will have the next few months, but it goes back and forth. If that's the way it ends up, which it looks like it may, there's no guarantees on that either, fine good good but the leafs need a number one center and even if you sign stephen stamp coast how long will he be the leafs number one center or will he be a center right and and you put you

put stephen stamp coast even though he wants to play center you put him on the wing eventually with austin matthews uh here's here's what i was talking about by the way i'm sorry i should look up the author ryan hobart one of the newer writers at the leafs nation.com a little excerpt what i want to display to you here is nhl equivalencies or nhle it's kind of a new stat that they developed there of the nla which is the swiss league where matthews plays versus the liga which is the finnish league that line played in using the data uh data from this post on hockey abstract and obviously they link to it the nla has an 0.11 higher conversion factor meaning it's a league where scoring historically equates to nhl production by 27.5 percent more than liga to put

this into actual numbers austin matthews 36 games played 46 points nhle 41.91 uh line a 46 games played 33 points 17.06 nhle so go read it it'll it'll give you a a better idea just okay miss Mr. Scientist? Mr. Scientist. But no, like, you know what I guess the equivalent would be if you're just looking at line A's finish numbers versus Matthew's Swiss League numbers is if you took the QMJHL's top score

or the top scoring prospect in the QMJHL and you just straight up said, look at their points compared to the top score in the OHL. No, you score more in the Q. It's always been that way for as long as I've been watching it. It's been that way for like at least two or three years. Sorry, two or three years. My goodness.

Like half a decade. At least. Maybe longer. When I did Junior Hockey Magazine, and I think it was the 08-09 season, the top scorer in all of junior hockey had over like 120 points in a 68-game season.

Something goofy like that. You had Mitch Barner numbers. Even better. Even better. Yannick Riendo. was he 20 he was that's why or well he was i don't know if he was 19 or 20 he was over i think he signed a pro deal with boston i think he played in the e most of the time you know what i mean you just score you score more in their league right right well i don't know i

look it's worth having a debate it's exciting it's fun being on this on this side of the debate we're used to arguing over whether or not ian white should be the captain yeah you know like Yeah, we should have been arguing about whether Ian White was going to play three more seasons in the NHL. Absolutely, but we didn't know that at the time. We had no idea. And look at us talking Stamkos. Boy, did that chatter increase after Leafs got the first pick.

There's all kinds of stuff. I have to say, too, Steve, you have come out and said that you are not only not sure that the Leafs could get Stamkos, that you're okay if they don't. i'm okay if they don't just because i'm so gun shy about signing free agents and you hate him personally i do you find him to be an objectionable character no powerade commercials you you you think that you know he can take his his florida swimming pool and he can go drink it for all your for all you care i once i once saw a puppy walk up to him and rub his leg like as if to suggest

hey buddy scratch my ear and you know what stamkos did what he turned the other way and pet a cat i know what a jerk i bet the cat didn't even want to be pet no because it's a cat the cat ran the other way because he knew wow no steven stamkos have met several times he's a lovely individual look at his numbers look at you backpedaling look at you backpedaling dude dude 10 million dollars okay it's so much money all right so here's and plus i don't think it makes sense for him okay so you made the argument gonna be great next year they're not gonna be great two years from now You made the argument, Steve, that on the last show, actually, you made the argument that Steve and Stamkos, as a leaf, you know, here are these young guys, they're coming up together, and all of a sudden you land the good ship Stamkos in the middle of it, and he becomes the captain immediately, and what has he done to, you know, he's not really a part of the group, so how does the group follow him? I don't think you can just plunk a leader into the middle of a group.

Which is what they did with Dion, right? Yeah, but the thing with Deion is he was their best player. He entered the team as a star on a garbage team. So here's what I'm going to say. I've been wishy-washy on the subject, but now I think I have my answer. Okay. Not that it matters all that much. Oh, it does.

I think that Stephen Stamkos will be a Toronto Maple Leaf next year. Well, I'm like 50-50 on that. I actually haven't. I think that Stephen Stamkos needs to be a Toronto Maple Leaf next year. And I'll tell you why. Needs to be. Tell you why. Oh, no.

For Stephen Stamkos, for Stephen Stamkos, I think the benefits are obvious. It's a huge hockey-ville. There is a massive following here. There are massive endorsement deals to be had. You are talking about becoming one of the biggest celebrities in the game. Not that he isn't already. But this is the big league in terms of promotion around the game, right? And nothing against Tampa.

They do a great job. But Toronto's just bigger in terms of a hockey market. He'd probably be a top five celebrity in the game. Yeah, absolutely. Crosby, Ovechkin, McDavid. And he'd be making more than all of them in the NHL. Yeah, probably. So you got that.

You got a lot of money. You get to be at home. You get to do the Toronto Maple Leaf thing, which you grew up wanting to do. Beyond that, I think the Leafs really need Stephen Stamkos. And it's not just for his goal scoring. You know, he had something like 30 goals, 35 goals and 25 assists or something this year. He was asleep. Ridiculous.

And he wasn't playing much at the beginning of the season. And there was fighting and he wasn't playing the set. Yeah, switching positions a lot. Unbelievable in a league where you can't even get a point a game anymore. Okay, so there's that. I think the Leafs need Stephen Stamkos to be there, to be potentially the captain, because they need a guy who's going to set an example as to how stars conduct themselves in the game.

Is there a star that you know or that you hear about who works out harder than Stephen Stamkos? No. Let me play devil's advocate. Please. So you... That is important. That kind of work ethic is extremely important to the Leafs organization.

Babcock talks about that. Babcock talks about it. they signed Justin Johnson who is kind of like a strength and conditioning coach for the Marlies because he hasn't played pretty much all season but he has that weird contract where guys who get called up to the Marlies and

promoted or whatever he gets a bonus for that and he's a big cheerleader in there and I see he's still at every he's at all the practices and he's always working out and stuff like that Rich Kloon works out like an absolute madman lifts weights lifts weights like an Olympian

You know He was showing William Nylander And a few other guys Like MMA And stuff like that It's clear that That sort of stuff

Is important To the Leafs organization But What about stuff like Liking the tweet Remember that When he caused That whole kerfuffle

Okay When he like Now I'm just playing Devil's advocate here But that's a big headache He caused a huge headache For his teammates Because now you gotta

Ask everybody about that And he caused a huge headache for his coach who's got to get asked about that and Steve Eisenman who had to come out and say something

who was already dealing with stuff Steve Eisenman's had a hard year yeah it's been a rough year for a GM of a team who's in the final four you know

and now he's got his VP sounding off Dave Andertuck talking oh yeah it would be great if everyone around Steve Eisenman

acted more like Steve Eisenman just shut up just shut up just shut up okay but this is what I'm saying

this is what I'm saying Do the Leafs want that drama? Right. And again, people are like, well, what would the Lightning do without Stamkos? Well, they would get into the conference finals. Apparently. Well, because they've had a clear, easy path.

Right. The battle-hardened Detroit Red Wings and the New York Islanders who are loaded. New York Islanders who are loaded with talent. They didn't put it together this year, but that's a scary team in the future. I think their future's scary. Okay.

Well, we actually have to talk about them a little bit later. I think Stephen Stamkos The Leafs need Stephen Stamkos And I think he He wants the Leafs The Leafs need Stephen Stamkos You need a guy Who players will look up to

And respect And not just on a personal level Stephen Stamkos will walk onto that team And at that point probably be the most talented player On the team I don't know if there's a probably about it So you got a guy who lives the game right, has the right attitude,

wants to be the leader, wants to be the guy, and then you get other guys who are 18, 19, 20 years old, who want to be the guy eventually, but are not quite ready, and it's a lot of pressure, and they maybe should just focus on playing the game and let Steven take all of that stuff. You know what I'm talking about?

And beyond that, Steve, you've talked about the fact that he's got a thirst to win, because he was robbed of a gold medal in 2010, should have been on that team. Robbed of a gold medal in 2014, because he should have been on the team, but broke his leg. and then robbed of the Stanley Cup last year. Because the Blackhawks shouldn't have been there.

I don't know. I was just trying to make up a reason. No, the Blackhawks were just better. I was just trying to make up a reason. But there's a guy that wants to win, so he's going to come to the team with a great work ethic. He wants to lead. He wants to be the guy.

He wants to be the hometown hero, and he wants to win more than anybody probably in the NHL right now. Now, Jesse, I want to ask you something. No, what were you going to say? I have a question. Okay. Okay? Okay, if we don't get Stamkos, can we still make the playoffs in two years?

Yes. Oh, yeah. 100%. Got to figure out goaltending. Do we need him? Well, and this brings me to my question there, Jesse. I'm kind of a gannet. Adam's for it.

For it. Are you for it or a gannet? I'm a gannet. Wow. He's a gannet. Because the franchise will move on if we don't get him. Well, yeah, for sure. And we don't need him now.

We're not winning next year. But he's 25 years old. By the time the Leafs are in, supposedly, if it all goes to plan, and the Leafs are in winning zone in three years, which is what they should be, starting to look like a scary team, he'll be 28. In five years, he'll be 30, at the peak of his career, guys. So in three years, can we still be in winning zone without Stephen Stamkos?

Yes, but I don't think we'll be as far along. I mean that honestly. Yes, was the answer. I think we can be. We don't need him. Because we can still win without committing $12 million to one dude. Ten. It'll be ten.

I think there are lots of ways you can build a winner. And it's nothing against Stephen Stamkos. It's nothing against his resume, his acumen. You hate him personally. It's cool. Absolutely. One time, he was cordial to me. Wow.

And I was like, what, do you think you're better than me? He's probably faking it. That's what I thought. So I was like, yeah. I saw his hair, and it was beautiful, and I'm like, what, do you think you're better than me? Well, his hair, when it was long, was maybe not beautiful. That's like, Steve's flow was not great. It was not a flattering haircut.

How dare the both of you, actually? That was not a flattering haircut. How actually dare the both of you? Listen, I understand needing to grow your hair, and I did it too, but no. Both of you, incorrect. He's going to do what he needs to do. All right, now I want Stephen Stamkos. There you go.

No, okay. All right. What I was going to argue is there are lots of ways to build a winning team. And I think one of the riskier ways, and therefore one of the ways I would like to avoid the most, is through unrestricted free agency. Unrestricted free agency. James Reimer, by the way, is probably the best unrestricted free agent goalie available this summer. Yep.

Someone is going to give him an amount of money they might regret. And I love James Reimer because he's the number one guy available. Dude, Kyle Ocpozo. We're going to get to that. Yes, but yes. He's already not going to be an Islander because he's an unrestricted free agent. He wants $7 million. He might get it.

He probably will get it. He's an unrestricted free agent. It's crazy these days. You have to draft. I don't care if you're a cap team or a budget team. The prices are nuts. They're nuts. I don't know, man.

$10 million for anybody in this league. Anybody. Save CrossFit. New question before we go to break. Jesse, you have something to say quickly? No, go ahead. New question. On the room, I want to hear everybody's answer.

July 1st comes. Leafs give Stephen Stamkos X amount of years X amount of dollars Let's say Seven Yeah

Argument's sake It's a seven year Seventy million Which is what they're predicting Which I think is That makes sense I think that's value Optimistic

Optimistic for sure For seven years Seventy million No movement clause Yes Which means you can't Leave him unprotected In the expansion draft

Next year So we got that What How will you feel At that moment I was kind of just thinking about that. I think I'll be happy. Because then I'll have Stephen Stamkos.

Because you still have Stephen freaking Stamkos, right? You ever buy something that's definitely, definitely too expensive and you shouldn't have bought it? But then you have it. And then you're like, ah, look at this. I've had buyer's remorse, but then eventually it wears off. It does wear off, because then you're like, ah, I have this thing. And maybe a few months later you're like, ah, I shouldn't have done that.

But I still love it. Then they'll have that toy. They'll have their fun little toy. Now, dude, he better score in his first freaking game, though. Well. He better score in his first freaking game because he's going to have such a hard time. The days turn into weeks, turn into months with this team, man.

Right. You start a little slow, that's the way you're going to be. Forget for the season, for your tenure as a Leaf. Jesse, how will you be? I'm going to be happy because I'm going to know that he won't sign that contract and he's going to go somewhere and get $11 million. No, no, but can you play the hypothetical game, please?

No, he's going to go somewhere and get more. He's going to go somewhere and get more. No, okay. The true could happen. I think Jesse's probably right. Where? Who else has the money? Who has the type of capital?

Exactly. Everyone keeps saying, oh, I think he's going to sign. Okay, do you think he's going to sign with Tampa? No, I don't think he's going to sign with Tampa. Do you think he's going to sign with the Leafs? No, everyone thinks he's going to sign with the Leafs. He's not going to sign with the Leafs. All right, where?

Where's he going to go? No one. and any team I'm not ripping on you but like no one I saw people making the Islanders oh don't think so

playing in New York and what would I pay them with banana bread they have the cat room hallelujah our problems are solved we have a banana bread do you want to go to the

arena where only 75% of the fans can actually see you like I don't think so I mean the rest of them will be watching on the phone

oh shout out to whoever sent us the crying Jordan of Barclays that you can't even see the whole face because it's obstructed. Oh,

is that funny? I just, and I'm going to say I will be ecstatic too. Here's why. I've heard, remember, remember that great players,

great players as prospects, not every great prospect turns into a great player. Not every prospect turns into the player that you're hoping. So let's, for argument's sake,

and I don't want to put this evil on him, but we're putting a lot on young William Nylander. Oh, yeah. Oh, Mitch Marner. Mitch Marner. Mitch Marner.

Austin Matthews. With Austin Matthews hasn't even been drafted yet. He might not even be their guy. Stephen Stamkos already is. Already is. I'm just saying. When we see the Tampa Stamkos, which is not currently and hasn't been for a few months, do you think we're seeing the best?

No. I think you put him with JVR and you put whoever else on there. I'd love to see him play with James Van Riemsdyk and Leo Komarov. I'm not even saying that. And Leo Komarov. I would love to see Or Or

Nylander Or Matthews Or whoever But I want to see Komarov I like Komarov Because he takes the attention Away from the star Who was on the ice

Okay there was an argument To be made That he shoots it Or JVR shoots it And Komarov bangs it in But I would like to see Someone with a little more pep A little more pep

Who can feed Stamkos the buck He shoots it And then JVR bangs it in Okay Fair A better player I mean a better player

A better player Leo Komarov Fantastic shouldn't be a first line player on a good team. That's interesting. What? Does Kadri become a winger

if we get Matthews and Stamkos? What everyone keeps telling me is Nylander. Because apparently that's where Babcock wants to see him. Honestly, I don't care. Like, I just...

I want to see a sick team. I want to see a... You know what? I don't care. I want to see some sick dangs, brah. I want to see a sick team. Some sellies, brah. Dude, I don't care

if they switch to defense. I don't care. Just be good. Just play. Brah. Just, bruh, just win some cups, bruh. Just drop that. Bruh.

Bruh, these cups are taste. It's like arms, bruh. Someone sauces you an apple, it's like you make it into a Geno, and it's like, you know? No, if someone sauces you an apple, it's applesauce. Do we ever get a break? Oh yeah, we gotta do that. Hey, it's Posted at 590 The Pen, Steve Dangle Podcast. When we come back, we do need to talk about the Islanders.

We're also going to grab some, we're going to talk a little bit about the Ottawa Senators and Guy Boucher and Boudreau and that whole situation. Oh, my goodness. Also, the NHL's low-key coaching situation that nobody's really talking about that is about to blow up. Babcock's getting fired. No, but it's on the West Coast, so no one cares. Oh, good.

It's a team that's already out. We'll talk about that next on the Steve Dangle Podcast. Kyle Akpoza. Is a leaf, and he's going to play on a line with Stephen Stamkos for $7 million. Is Kyle Akpoza this year's Matt Boleski? making him this year's David Clarkson. See, no, he would have to be this year's David Clarkson because to Matt Boleski's credit,

even Matt Boleski wasn't his year's Matt Boleski. We all thought he was going to get five plus million and he signed for under four, actually. You know, a decent contract with Boston. I wouldn't say that was totally outrageous. But Ocpozo's going to get paid. I haven't heard the seven million stuff that you guys keep throwing out. Sportsnet.ca says 7 million

No I didn't No but then you were like It's on tape Oh no I said he might get it Play the game tape Sportsnet.ca one of the articles up there I don't remember which one specifically Has it quoted

They're saying about 7 million UFA UFA my friend So he's out in The Islander land By the way Kyle Lamposo, God bless him, not worth it for that kind of money. Is he a 50-point guy?

I don't know. This is what I was saying about Stamkos. How many players in the league would you right now give $10 million to? Steven Stamkos would be one of them. Really? Yep. I got Crosby. I got Ovechkin.

I got McDavid. You got Patrick Kane. Nope. Eric Carlson? He can't play for my team. Maybe Eric Carlson. Drew Dowdy? Brett Burns

Maybe Drew Doughty Probably not Brent Burns Best He's probably the best Defenseman in the NHL this year Why wouldn't you give him 10 million What's his age

Dude 10 million dollars I know it's a lot It's 10 million dollars When my When the cap is What just over 70 I know You're one seventh

When I gotta Have a 20 man roster No No No Opozo scored 64 points this year Okay

79 games That's pretty good That's really That's amazing that's amazing and in the NHL of five years ago that would have been

a point a game you know like when guys were still scoring 110 120 points what happened yeah really what happened

like that's a good question when Joe Thornton won the Art Ross with like 120 points in 05-06 like people keep talking about

the goalie equipment it hasn't gotten bigger since 2006 sure no has it no have goalies gotten bigger

what the hell happened no I think they got better and the equipment's Cotland Lighter and all that stuff they talk about. Anyway, Kyle Ocposo, sorry. Kyle Ocposo. Going to make a lot of money. So there's that, and then there's Travis Hamanick,

who has now rescinded his trade request. No trade clause. Have you ever heard of that? Never. Never. I mean, I'm sure it happens. I'm sure it happens. Oh, totally.

I mean, Jonathan Drouin, he didn't really take it back. He was just kind of like, yeah, I lost. Yeah, I lost. Put me in the lineup. And to his credit, he's been great. I mean he's been a big reason why Tampa you know

hasn't really missed Stamkos all that much he's a big reason why they're in the final four I keep emphasizing that because they have a one in four shot at the Stanley Cup

that's nuts without their superstar and then Stamkos comes back and scores 20 points in the final and wins the conspire New York

the New York Islanders future then too also we've got John Tavares who's up after next year so is he coming home as well well no

I don't think so I don't think so If we don't land Stamkos, do we land Taveras? Yes. Yes, I will say that. That's what I think is going to happen. If Taveras goes to free agency next year and we don't have Stamkos, Taveras is a leaf. Do we just have one of these every year?

Is that just how this works? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. And I enjoy it. I enjoy it. I straight up enjoy it. You know why? Because it's the one thing that Toronto has right now that we can be superior on.

Because we have nothing else. See, I think there's a weird inferiority here. Really? And I think it's the reason why I'm skittish on Stamkos. Things have been going well, and we're just not used to that. We're used to, for the last, what, year? About a calendar year. Everything has gone the way I wanted it to, basically.

Almost every move. I would say 90% of the Leafs' decisions I've agreed with and I've been totally happy with. And I'm just, I don't think I can handle the heartbreak of Stamkos not working out in Toronto. I don't think I can handle the heartbreak Of Daveris not working out in Toronto I am Why won't I let myself be happy I'm too

I'm worried I'm worried to let myself be happy And that's why you don't want That goes back to the Stamkos argument That's what I'm saying The only reason And I bet Jesse you feel the same way Uh nope

No you don't It's not that you're It's an awful deal You shouldn't do it We don't need him To be a successful team So why would we sign him Penguins don't need Crosby to be...

Yes, they do. Why? He is their franchise. I don't need a Ferrari to have a good time, but it would be cool to have one. They drafted Sidney Crosby. Maybe if we drafted him like Austin Matthews and made him the face of our franchise,

like we will make Austin Matthews, we'll be fine. I think, you know what, Jesse? I like that. I like drafting your core and maybe signing... Think of how many different guys you could get for the amount of money you would give Stamkos. yeah you'd get three Leo Komrofs

no maybe well I mean but that's the thing guys is that you have to have top line talent to win

are we agreed on that we can grow that agreed you can grow that fair fair but it is going to be a while and those guys

are going to need some tutelage we've seen what happened with Kadri Kadri's 24 25 years old and he just now got his

stuff straight if it was a podcast I would have said a different word there his business together yes and you got to expect

that young guys we were all young and in our 20s once Jesse still is God bless him what are you talking about you guys young in our 20s

though in your early 20s you make stupid decisions you need people around you I'm 28 and I can assure you I make no stupid decisions

anymore I'm just saying dumber in the early 20s than your later 20s like okay here's what I'm looking at alright

here are the leading scores from this past season Patrick Kane with the team who drafted him Jamie Benn with the team who drafted him Sidney Crosby with the team who drafted him

Joe Thornton with the team who ripped him off from the Bruins that was hilarious Eric Carlson with the team who drafted him Johnny Gaudreau with the team who drafted him

Blake Wheeler nope Joe Pavelski with the team who drafted him in the 7th round I believe Evgeny Kuznetsov with the team who drafted him Artemi Panarin

that's a little different How far down the list are you? Ten names. And there were two. Yeah. Eight out of ten. And then you get into Brent Burns, who's not with the team who drafted him. Tarasenko, who is.

Kopitar, who is. Sagan, who isn't. Ovechkin, who is. Nicholas Backstrom, who is. Tavares, who is. Bergeron, who is. Chris Letang, who is. Claude Giroux, who is.

Jager definitely doesn't count. Kucherov, who is. Hall, who is. Forsberg, who also doesn't count, but he made his NHL debut with them. But the point is, guys. That doesn't make it not a valid thing That he would come to the Leafs and do a good job No, but

And the Leafs have a good young core Arguably Or have the makings of one By the way, that was the top 30 How many guys did I miss by? That doesn't change the argument Which is Stephen Stamkos is a top line player Who's going to be an unrestricted free agent

Stephen Stamkos is exactly the kind of player you need if you're three or four years further along in your development than the Leafs are. I think if the Leafs are a cup contender, or let's say the Leafs made the playoffs this year and they're looking

good, but they got pushed around a little bit and they just lacked a little bit of scoring touch in whoever they played in the first or second round, I'm going, hells yeah Stephen Stamkos, hells yeah. But they're in a, they're a little I guess the word I would use is they're a little more delicate.

And who in that position, who in that first round position would have the cap space to bring a guy like that in? I don't know. Nobody. The answer is nobody. I don't think that's true.

Maybe someone makes it. Okay, on an off year. The draft is going to be a blast. Oh, by the way, I found out a couple things. Found out a couple things about the draft. What's up?

So, I thought the big day, round one, I thought that was June 25th. Mistaken. It's June 24th. Round two through seven is on the 25th, which is my friend's wedding day, and I'm a groomsman in that wedding. So I haven't spoken to everyone who I need to speak to yet, but I'm thinking, go to round

one, watch all the Matthews goodness, drive home that night from Buffalo. Where is it again? It's in Buffalo. Buffalo. Yeah, you should. Drive home that night, and then I'll be back in time for the wedding. I'm leaving for England that day. What is the matter with you?

I know. I know. I have that day off, too, but I have to go to England. So, yeah, I'm never booking a vacation over that two-week block again. This is just a big mistake. But I'll still be in England, so it's no big deal. But what we wanted to get to, what I wanted to get to there is how much soul-searching and how much tinkering are the Islanders going to have to do this offseason?

I know we kind of got off track there. We got Hamannik who's going to stay, Akpozo who's going to leave, Tavares who's up in a year. What do the Islanders do? They draft Oh wait They have two picks In the first five rounds They're in Minnesota

Where did their trades go? Minnesota Who did they get? They got Shane Prince From Ottawa For a third Which was That's a great trade

That's a good trade I don't know Where their second Or Fifth Went I think they got a sixth And a couple sevenths

Their second went to Boston For Johnny Boychuk Oh Oh that'll do That'll do their third Shane Prince like you said

their fifth went to Florida for Montreal's fifth and none of that had to do with Thomas Vanik I thought

I would have thought one of those at least you know what you can't even hate on the Islanders for that no that's okay

Boychuck's an investment Prince is an investment if you keep them yeah that's fine and they did make the second round so they're still doing well I'm just saying

things are looking a little scary so Bruce Boudreau was the Ottawa Ottawa Senators first pick to be their coach

But because it's Ottawa, they got Guy Boucher and Mark Crawford and nothing against Guy Boucher. I think it's so funny that people are talking about Guy Boucher as though he's some runner-up prize. This is a great coach and was a day away from being the Leafs head coach last year. So this is interesting. Bruce Boudreau, his daughter lives in Ottawa and she apparently hasn't spoken to him since he chose to go to Minnesota. She's mad. She's really mad at him. He was kind of joking about it.

He's like, she hasn't spoken to me. Because she knew he was up for it. But he took more money. I guess he's making $2.67 million as a coach in Minnesota, which I think he deserves, given his record. Oh, absolutely. I think it's hilarious how fast he got scooped up. What was he unemployed for?

Less than a week? Four days, I think? Yeah. Yeah. And he says this is his last. He says he's done after this. Fun fact about Bruce Boudreaux, too. He was a top 10 pick going into the 1974 draft.

And he fell to, I believe, 40th. Do you guys know why? No. Oh, why? He was arrested in a bar a week before the draft. Oh, no. For? Streaking.

Oh, come on. That doesn't even count. Come on. How did they not draft him first overall after finding that out, right? Teams back then, man. Teams. Anyway, funny. Funny story.

I thought you were going to start talking about a McDonald's. No. No. No. That was a different restaurant. you're referring to I know you're yeah

anyway anyway if you are if you are Guy Boucher going into this year you gotta yeah

sorry I had to get into character there opened my eyes really wide seriously he has the David Clarkson eyes for sure um are you not going in

with a bit of a chip on your shoulder and a look like that on your face Steve which people will only see on the YouTube video yes hello hello hi

uh oh you know he might have a bit of a chip on his shoulder he might want to prove something to

certainly the people of Ottawa certainly to the Toronto Maple Leafs who I guess spurned him for Mike Babcock I don't even think

Guy Boucher could blame them for that come on well I think he also might want to point and do a little laughing at the

Montreal Canadiens who at one point were grooming him in the American Hockey League before he went to Tampa. Because, I mean, they've got to get a French-Canadian coach. They've handcuffed themselves to that.

They tried to get a guy who only speaks English once, and everyone rioted. Randy Cunningworth. Yet, when they did have guys who only spoke English in the 50s, they won a bunch of cups then. I don't know what's changed, but anyway. What's changed is you can't. Two minutes for you can't do that, Adam.

And it seemed like he was the guy And no, no, we like the guy we got He does not lack respect But the reason I bring that up Is because the best part Of the Guy Boucher signing Is how upset Montreal Canadiens fans are

Oh yeah It's a story that involves the Minnesota Wild And the Ottawa Senators full stop That's the end of it Those two teams And the angriest team involved, Montreal Montreal They could have had him

They could have And would have had him Had they Had they not doubled down On Michel Therrien Like And I saw Andrew Berkshire tweet

He goes And now I am positive They are firing Therrien Mid-season And when they do Who's gonna replace him Claude Julien Oh no

He's still working I mean like I don't know what they do I don't know what they do It's Oh man It's all great It's all happening.

Now, they are going to ride that Babcock versus Boucher storyline pretty hard. Yeah, get ready for that. Get ready for it. I mean, hey, if they're going to be good, you're going to get stories like that. You're going to get Laine versus Matthews. You're going to get all that. You're going to get Stamkos versus whoever else you could assign. I like Boucher versus Babcock because it's Leafs versus Sens again.

And that was fun when that happened. Hells yeah. I like some rivalry. That's good. That's good because both teams have been just, or the Leafs have been so bad that there's no rivalry to be had. You have to be a good team for there to be a rivalry. Or you both have to be so equally bad that it's still entertaining.

Like the Oilers and the Flames. Let's not talk about the Oilers and Flames here, Adam. That's how as bad all of Alberta was in terms of hockey this year. Anyway, you know, on that note, I think it's a good time to bring up, Before we wrap it up, obviously we've all seen what happened in Fort McMurray. We all have friends and relatives and friends of friends, and however you're connected to this. A dear friend of the show, Andrew Berkshire, is from Fort McMurray

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It's what's on the inside that counts. So the situation that nobody is talking about in the NHL that I think is fascinating is the coaching situation in Los Angeles. Mr. Sutter Daryl has been given a contract extension offer that Dean Lombardi who by the way is extraordinarily candid

by NHL general manager standards he says a lot of stuff maybe to a fault at times I don't think Dean Lombardi would do well in Toronto I don't think he'd handle the media well here because you get Dave Feschuk or Steve Simmons on one of his quotes we have Brian Burke

yeah Dean Lombardi is a little bit more No, boy, this city aided him. It aided him. And you know what? Once things went south, look, they had all this ammunition. Pittsburgh modeled my ass. Right? Well, and so D. Lombardi said, we offered him something fair.

The article I read, which was by Damien Cox, did say somewhere probably in the neighborhood of $5 million, but that was an estimate. Whoa! That's a lot of dough. And Mr. Sutter apparently told Elliot Friedman Over text message That he was considering things Dean Lombardi said this though and I thought this was really interesting I'm considering things

Yeah that's all Apparently that you know what it's better to Communicate with Mr. Sutter And I call him Mr. Sutter because I'm scared of him Better to communicate with him over text message Than it is in person because you got a sentence out of him At least on text message right Which Elliot Friedman did get

Alright guys we're going to go out there and we're going to show a lot of passion Dean Lombardi said I want him We want him back But we don't want anybody We want you back Is what he said to The coach and players

But really the coach But we don't want the same stuff Just because it worked in the past Doesn't mean it's going to work in the future We need to move the team ahead So basically you're saying to the head coach I want you But I want you to change

And I don't know Daryl Sutter doesn't strike me as the change type does does he did am i wrong uh i mean okay he coached the what was it the 2004 flames yes to the stanley cup all the way to the seventh game all the way to the seventh game became gm too yeah and that didn't go so good he's a great coach it was a pretty bad gm but he's a great coach um i gotta think that his style from 2004

to now and he was also a coach in the 90s has changed quite a bit So I got to think this guy can adapt. And he's the coach of the Corsi God Kings who ran into the Sharks. A team that's also not so bad at that whole possession thing. But if I'm a coach that can demand five million bucks and it's a bit of a coach's market, I could go back to Calgary if I wanted. Right. Who are you to tell? Sorry, you're telling me what?

You're telling me what? I would rather go back to Alberta where I'm from anyway probably make that money there and how about you kiss my ass? How about that? You ever thought about that? Want me to change?

How about you change where your lips are and place them on my ass? You offered me five million bucks. How about you kiss my ass? How about that? That's the thing because here's the thing. You're right.

It's a coach's market right now. Coach's market. Yeah. and even if even if he doesn't sign in Calgary you know that job in Montreal

is going to be open and you know that Daryl Sutter that Daryl Sutter would not be accepted by French Canadian fans I don't think it matters I think he's got

a Stanley Cup recently and I think Montreal Canadiens fans would be fine with it I'm sure they'd be fine with it they would have been fine with Babcock

they would have I've heard that from Andrew Andrew Berkshire has told me that he said they would have been fine with Babcock. Yeah, but he's a dirty Anglophone. Yeah, whatever. Or is it French?

And you know what? Even if they weren't fine with it, Montreal would still be a way better team. So eventually, they'd be fine with it. Okay? I'm just saying, LA, watch yourself. Because who else is available? Boudreau, Boucher,

Crawford, gone. In 24 hours. You want me to change? How about you hire Randy Carlisle and kiss my ass? Who's out there? If Dean Lombardi loses Daryl Sutter, does Dean Lombardi lose his job? No. Because nothing's ever that

immediate. We talk about it on the show. It doesn't matter that the writing's on the wall. There's something like a six-month rule. It's like relationships. You know the relationship's over. Or at least, Steve, you've never gone through this because you dated two people.

But in my world, relationships often end several months before they end. And sometimes your friends Kind of go Hey man And then That too

And sometimes your friends Go hey man So how's that going You enjoying that You having fun tonight And you go Yeah You know you say it

With such love Yeah Yeah We are in love Fuck you Said Alan It's like baseball Well I don't think

Any of my exes Of course I'm fucking nappy But yeah I mean that's that's that's the way it goes so i don't know i if i'm dean lombardi don't i look happy make the change make the change now if you want daryl sutter to change daryl sutter's not changing so make the change he could i mean it depends what the change is right depends what the change is but like there are i think sometimes you say things when there are bigger fish to fry like for example you're paying almost six million dollars to dustin brown who does not look like

Dustin Brown anymore? But he's your captain. But he's your captain. I thought Anze Kopitar was the captain. Nope. Fourth line, Dustin Brown is their captain.

I think Anze Kopitar will be their captain pretty soon. I agree. One has a C on their jersey. You're right. I agree. Things have to change.

You have to find a way to revive this guy as an NHL player. They should find a way to keep him. They should definitely find a way to keep him. That is also a team, though.

They're just kind of cap-strapped, and they're spending a lot of money already. And then they're going to spend $5 million on a coach? And potentially try to sign Lucic, too, because the furthest along that they are with any of their free agents, restricted or unrestricted, is with Lucic. I love that they just operate under their own cap. I don't know how they're going to do it. The Kings, Blackhawks, and Penguins are all just like, ah, yeah, sure. What's the cap? Yeah, we'll see about that.

Oh, yeah, just kind of take it or leave it. By the way, as we are recording this, the Marlies tie their series with the Albany Devils. They win 5-1. And you've been following this series. Why? They had a bad first game. They won the second game.

In the third game, you said they should have won, but they didn't win. What happened? Well, they were winning with like 20 seconds left, something like that. They allowed the tying goal. It goes overtime. And you know what?

There was a dirty hit from behind in overtime. Stuart Percy, who didn't play in game four here because he was hit from behind by Joseph Blandese. Uh, no, no call, no suspension. And then the Marlies eventually lose on the PK. And I was going to get all huffy about that. And I waited a long time to make my MFR video, my MFR. Um, which is what you are.

Many people have called you an MFR. How dare you? How dare you, sir? Um, uh, they were 0 for 8 on the power play. That's why they lost. If you're the Marlies, you can't be that. You can't look at the best. You gotta be.

Yeah, you can't look at this cheap thing, or this cheap thing, or this cheap thing. It's the playoffs. Stuff gets missed. Sometimes it's in your favor. I mean, they gave you eight power plays. How much stuff was missed? But Albany, I was saying to Jesse, I was ranting before you got here, they suck the life force out of you.

And if they get an early lead, which they did in this one, I'm surprised the Marlies won, they just sit back. They New Jersey Devil it. Absolutely. And they are the Devils fan team. Yep. They clog up the middle of the ice. They get in front of the goalie, who is Scott Wedgwood, who's pretty good.

There's a skate in the way. There's a stick in the way. There's everything in the way. Where's Scott Wedgwood? Scott Wedgwood. I remember him. From the World Juniors. Yes.

Of World Junior fame. The Devils got the lead two minutes into this game. And I was just like, oh, we're in for a long night. I was listening on the radio, very upset and not excited to do this podcast. But Marley's triumph They win 5-1 But they lost Andreas Johnson

In the process The footage is not up At the time we're recording this So I hope it gets up The player who hit him I didn't see He's an assistant captain Has a beard

That's all we know so far He's getting suspended Yeah He's getting suspended He will not play next game Hopefully for the rest of the series Because Johnson was out Cold

On his back Arms at his side Cold In his second North American game Unreal Nice Nice

Zach Hyman beat the piss out of the guy who did it oh good so good well I was hoping it'd be Rich Clune although Rich Clune has been known to fight the wrong

guy yes where he filled in the wrong guy's face just because he had that jersey on so that's hilarious and by the way another reason why this is important it

guarantees the Marlies will return to Toronto because game five is also in Albany so one team will show up for game six in Toronto up three two who's it going to be

and that video is up on sportsnet.ca of Johnson getting cold cocked, eh? Gotta see it. Who did it? I can't tell you that right now. Okay, cool. Let's move on. SkateToGreat.org. We just want to say, if you got any money left over, and we know you've probably already donated to

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You need something off your list you don't have to worry about. Also, the CWHL Pave the Way game is this weekend, gentlemen. The Clarkson Cupcakes, led by one and only Sasky Stewart. It also includes Steve, myself, Jesse, and Jeffler. And donate to me. No, actually, donate to me. Donate to me. Jesse's already reached his goal.

I'm good. I reached my goal, but then I raised my goal, and now I can't reach my goal. So, if you could help me, I will tweet out my donation. Learn his lesson while you give me money. Yes, and because our team has done so well, thank you to your donations, because our team has done so well, we get first overall pick of the actual CWHL All-Stars.

Daryl Strawberry. So I'm thinking we got Daryl Strawberry. So we're going to have a great player on our team, and if you want to come out, we'll tweet out all the details, and you'll be able to find that out. It was the dirty defenseman, Dan Kelly. Dan Kelly.

Dan Kelly. Yes. Well, see you next year, Dan. You're not playing for the rest of the series. It's that bad, eh? He got a match penalty on the play. Yeah, he deserved it. Zach Hyman got the instigator.

Wow. Most worthwhile two minutes of his life. Now, we got a couple things here. First off, we got to talk about, and we had this tweeted at us a million times, and I swear to you, I did not look at it. We have a list of the OHL draft. WHL.

WHL draft. All the terrible names combined. combine now before we get to that after this jesse says he has the best thing of all time for us to do now many people many people many people have said the best segment we've ever done is the name segment from last year and that was just by accident many people have said that to me recently i've seen it on twitter yeah so jesse's backing me up on that yeah i've seen it But Jesse is saying, you're saying, sir, that it's better than that. It's going to be a hundred million times better.

Holy Santa Claus balls. Adam's eating kale to prepare. I'm eating some of the people that were drafted in the draft. What? And I'm drinking your family, Owen. That's funny because one of the kids drafted was C-A-E-L. Kale. Kale.

Like. What the fuck are you doing out there, guys? Can I just be honest with you? We're going to make fun of these names here. I bet you I bet you we get tweets from people who are like this has some significance

my cousins named this and you guys are a bunch of jerks and you know what I'll say you know what I am a big jerk I don't care just spilled some damn salad alright let's go

we got Jakin no we don't what J-A-K-I-N J-A-K-I-N J-A-K-I-N Jakin okay

hold on are we sure is that is that a Canadian yeah he's drafted allow me to ask the question what's Jakin A person.

What's Jake and Bacon? They should have just named the fucking kid Bacon. Oh my god. Now, here's what I wonder. This is the first name. Do these kids get made fun of in school? Or do they not because they're all named something fucking good? They go with a kale.

Like kale sitting next to Jake in class. Ah ha, Jake and fuck you, kale. You're right. And sitting next to Jake and kale is Timber. No! There's a boy named Timber. No! You're named after a Kesha song.

What's his last name? I only have the first name. Please be Woods. I'll bring it up. I was hoping it'd be Wolf. Timber Wolf. That'd be amazing. Oh, fuck.

Or Lake. Whatever. Or Land. Or Land. I'm into that. I'm good with any of that. Oh, shit. Oh, parents.

Just the worst. Okay, by the way, if you name your kid after something, or if you name your kid something and it could be a product on the shelf at an organic section of a grocery store, you've done bad. And the parents of these kids are smart and successful enough to afford to put their kids through WHL hockey.

Yeah. Like all the way up to WHL hockey and they come up with Jakem. There's a jersey. That's just... J-E-R-Z-Y. Oh! Oh!

Oh! Oh my, that is like a 12-year-old spelling it on a Justin Bieber poster. No, you know what Jersey is? You know what some of these names are, the spelling? They're like the lesser known members of a rap group from the early 2000s. Like, Jersey is definitely a member of D12. It's true. This is Bizarre Kid.

Proof. Jersey. Jersey is definitely one of the St. Lunatics. There's Nelly Murphy Lee, Jersey. He's the guy in the video behind Murphy Lee that's sort of in focus. He's the goofy dude with the mask. Yeah, yeah.

Stupid St. Louis. Oh my God. Oh my God. Hey, shut the fuck up. I love the St. Louis. I think we should thank the parents who decided to name their child Nathan. Sorry.

Can we get that spelled, sir? N-E-I-T-H-A-N. Are you sure it's not Nathan? Is it just Nathan spelled weird? I think it is. Yeah, I think it is. Nathan? My name's Kayla.

It's spelled G-L-M-X. All right, all right, all right. If we could spell Jesse differently, could you spell Jesse without a J? It would have to be like a Z-Y, like Jesse. Like Jesse? G-Y-S-S-Y. Jesse.

Jesse. I think you got it. No, no, I at the end. Okay, how do we, how do we Nathan Steve's name? It has to be a Zed, T, V. Steven? No, no. Zed, D.

Steve. I, E, V. Steve. Steve. Steve. Can you do that, Adam? Now that's, that's might be a little bit easier. DM.

Just DM. I think it would be EDM. E-D-M Atom You can say Atom Up and Atom Oh what about Atom

E-T-M E-T-M Atom A-T-M Cash A-T-M A-T-M It's either electronic dance music

Or Or A-T-M Where you get your money Oh my god these names These are worse than last year They're pretty bad It's like I bet these aren't real

And the W-H-L Just thinks this shit's funny It's great promotion for them No dude Like our first guy was Ned Stark that would be okay Wembley

if there was someone named Daenerys in there I'd be okay with it now is this Dylan oh no D-A-L-L-O-N D-A-L-L-O-N is it Dallin is this kid's name Dallin

or is it a weird spelling of Dylan you don't have the last names of these kids I have the list of first names here's why the last names are important two there was a wheaton drafted a few years ago in the whl a wheaton okay he was drafted brought by the brandon wheat kings and his full name was wheaton king do you think i'm fucking with you that's a thing it up look it up you know there was also a whl player a few years ago by the name of steel s-t-e-e-l-e boomer okay so steel s-t-e-e-l-e is

cool but that's a last name man that's not a first name steel boomer and boomer is a first name you got that mixed around boomer steel boomer steel steel boomer is a by the way that is such a porn name come on part-time hockey player part-time porn star part-time transformer right seriously I just wonder It's okay don't worry about it I do need to know if it's Timberwolf It'd be so great Timberlake

Timberland Imagine if they had custom goal songs I'm bringing sexy back Do you guys want to know about Deegan Deegan D-E-E-G-A-N Deegan

Deegan. Deegan. Deegan. How do you come up with that name, is my question. And to follow that, okay. These aren't pre-existing names, are they? And once you've answered Steve's question, how do you come up with that name, how do you agree on that? Because you assume, in most of these situations, that a couple agrees on this, right?

Two people, two consenting adults, who they may or may not be together, but they created a kid. How did they come together in the hospital room And go, yup Is it Is it that And then their family goes Yeah, I think that's good too Like, does the family not step in

Like, if you're, okay No, because the uncle is Dax And the aunt is Javelin So, okay, me and Caprice Javelin Me and Caprice are having a kid, okay And we name it Javelin

Alright We tell you guys Jesse I tell you And I tell Steve this You guys are two of my closest friends You guys are at the hospital Days later And I say

We've named our kid Javelin Because he's long And he's skinny And I like to throw him Across the hall Alright Fuck Steve just spit out his water

Very close He literally did a spit take Very very close Because he's long And he's skinny And I throw him Timber's last name by the way Oh no

I have the first and last names now Okay Timber Lewis. Oh, that's not as fun. Nah. That's not as fun. Sounds like, man. So I say the kid's name's Javelin.

Do you not beg me to reconsider? But Adam. I mean, we did do that with Steve, right? We have proof with Iggy that we did kind of say, you know. It was awful, yeah. It's not! You have a very fancy dog. It's also a dog.

A dog is a dog. It's allowed to have whack names. Whack-ass names. It's not a whack-ass name! If you named your daughter Iggy, there'd be a lot of problems. You know what? Iggy at the dog park is with 19 Stellas, because everyone thinks Stella is a cute dog name. And a blizzard.

There are two dogs named Diesel. So fuck off! Iggy's a decent name. But I can see how you guys would fit in. There's a dog that's big and black and has these big, pointy, scary ears. It's name is Bane. That's sick. It is kind of sick.

That's freaking sick. But you can't tell me Iggy is not good, especially knowing the backstory. You're terrible friends. I drafted in the 10th round. 202nd overall. Which still isn't that bad, by the way. Because there's like 46 more rounds.

Yeah. Portage. La Prairie. Hold on. Wait. He's named after Portage La Prairie? That's a city. That's a damn city.

His name is Portage La Prairie? No, it's not. No, it's not. You're fucking with me. He's from Portage-le-Prairie. That's the city where it's from. Oh. You fuck.

Oh, you. I was like, he's named after people putting a canoe on their head. He's named after a portage. Like, that's what a portage is. That's like naming your kid Northwest without the intrigue of the fact that you're Kanye West. Like, at least people expect it of you, and at the end of the day, you're rich, so fuck you.

Do you want to get back to the real name? Yeah, yes. Okay. We can go with Nickshaw. Nick N-I-C-K-S-H-A So his last name is Sha Nope

His first name is Nick Sha How do you spell it? N-I-C-K-S-H-A That feels like it could be a name From somebody like From like Slovakia or I could see that

I could see that That makes phonetic sense From like a Slovak Forgive any Slovaks That listen to this podcast Who think I might be wrong That'd be great if they all message in, that's a bullshit name.

Yeah. We would never name our kids that. I don't know. It just feels like, that feels a little bit more... Tell him, Yaroslav. Yeah, exactly. Tell him.

Yeah, exactly. You know? Like, I could see a Nick Shaw next to Yaromir. What about Killian? How do you spell Killian? K-I-L-L-I-A-N. You know what's just amazing to me, though? What?

This isn't just a sample size of here are some of the names in Western Canada. These are just people drafted into the WHL draft. Right. Like, out of what, 250 people? 300 people? Something like that? Maybe 400 people? And we're coming out with Nickshaw and not Javelin.

What was the other one? Killian? Killian Kecker Olsen. that is a cartoon butler what about Cade Killian what's his last name Cade Olsen

Cade Olsen defenseman no now Cade Olsen has just given himself a bright new future as the newest member of One Direction

I totally agree I could not agree more with that you're absolutely right he has great flow who's the yeah he must namely Cade

you gotta He better be a stallion with a name like Taylor. Cade Olsen wears board shorts in February. Yes. For sure. His jaw is a match. Yes. And I bet girls at his high school hang off of him.

They're crawling on him. Cade Olsen doesn't know it, but he just became friends with Taylor Lautner. Yes. He doesn't know it, but he is. He's friends with him. Yes. He's friends now. And they are equally in shape.

Oh, my God. You're so right. Wow. Cade Olsen definitely wears board shorts and sandals in February. He's a great surfer. Never surfed in his life. Yeah, right? Yes.

Token, what have I told you? You can play bass guitar. Cade? What have I told you? Cade, what have I told you? You can surf. Your name is Cade. It's funny, guys.

I just found this surfboard in the basement, and I don't know what to do. Never seen it before. I don't know what it's doing there. Oh, my God. We talked about Kirby last episode. In the summer, Cade works at Aeropostale. Oh for sure

Oh for sure Oh shit I love this game I forgot how much I love this game Last episode We talked about Kirby Well there's two Kirby's

In the draft Not one kid But there's two kids How do I feel about Kirby When he scores Does he go Sorry You know how Kirby

Does a happiness Above his head And he just waves His hands in the air I have expected you To go I can just imagine It's the finals of the seventh game.

And it's like, Kirby sucks up a pass from Cade Olsen. If the announcers don't say, Kirby sucks up a pass, they're missing out. Kirby sucks up a pass from DeBricka Shaw, Javelin. Oh, my God. Any more? No. I think we're done. Holy shit.

But Kate Olsen is definitely in the next Expendables. Yeah. And by the way, anybody that names their kid, if your last name is Olsen, you are not allowed to name your kid anything that rhymes with Kate Olsen. Yeah. As in Mary Kate Olsen. Oh, I didn't even. Come on.

That didn't even occur to me. That didn't even occur to me. I was too busy thinking about Aeropostale. I feel like, honestly, I feel like Kate has like a big long mane of black hair. I mean that. He's probably a stallion. No, he's got the dirty blonde going on. Oh, really?

Oh, yeah. Maybe even a strawberry blonde. There's a boy named Boston. My neighbor's dog is named Boston. That's rude. That's a good example of a cool dog name that you gave to a child. Boston Billis, a goalie out of Langley, B.C. Boston Billis.

That actually does kind of sound like a B.C. goalie name. because there's something about something about BC names that makes me feel like like they're a baseball player. You know what I mean? Yep. Like Chuck Knobloch couldn't have possibly been a

refrigerator repairman. No. He had to play professional baseball. He did. That was his destiny. And what was it? Dick Trickle had to be a NASCAR driver. Dick Trickle, there was no other... Your name is Dick Trickle. There's no Dick Trickle in accounting. No. No. You're not

is going to see Mr. Trickle up the street at the library, okay? It's Dick Trickle, the freaking driver. That's it. Oh my god. Did we talk about Caden? Yeah, we did. There's two Cadens. Caden's a little bit more mainstream. I can see that. Yeah, now. Now it's mainstream.

Don't name a kid Caden. Do we go to school with a single Caden? No. Alright, I think we have our last one. Do Steve's and Adam's get picked on in school these days? Is that what happens? You're a regular. Steve

Oh there's not a thousand of you Loser Oh out of that Oh you ate half Oh I bet you feel good about yourself Oh Mike Real original Fuck you

Ryan Get out of here Ryan Kashawn Kashawn How does one spell Kashawn? K I S

H A U M Kashawn Kashawn Kashawn Keyshawn?

Keyshawn, maybe? Oh, Keyshawn! Keyshawn, I can see. That's not how you spell Keyshawn. No. But it's Keyshawn. I think there's a trend where people, because of the internet, and I blame a lot of stuff on the internet, but I think because of Instagram and Facebook and Twitter, it has created this environment where

everybody wants everybody else to think that they're the next Albert Einstein of everything. Albert Einstein, that's a great first name. Albert Einstein Jones. yes right and it's like I'm gonna name my kids something different so I can differentiate

myself from my friends rather than going what name am I giving my child to set them up for you know what I bet a shit load you know what I bet

a shit load of kids are gonna be named in a few years like we're gonna start seeing them in school and maybe even in the WHL Tesla

Elon Elon there are gonna be oh yeah yeah everyone's gonna be an Elon no no but then there's gonna be

too many Elons so they're gonna get hip to that and name their kid Musk or like Keylong you can't name your kid after what you smell like

this is my kid Musk Ox we can also end on Edge Lambert his first name is Edge his last name is Lambert okay he's in the wrong profession

he should be a rock star Edge yeah Edge Lambert finished second at American Idol yeah right but that's not a stage name he was born with it

Edge Lambert finished second oh for sure for sure Edge Lambert is like And all the girls Would love Edge Lambert CM Punk's foil

Yeah Yeah Wrong career Wow You know what You know what's really great When the Leafs have a great draft pick And the guy that they're gonna be after

Is one of those names Edge Lambert It's gonna be hilarious It's gonna be hilarious So now that we've successfully Made fun of everybody in your family Who's under the age of 16 And probably has a name like that

And you're offended Jesse or Steve Do you want to say something before we get to the greatest thing ever that Jesse's okay if you can name all of the members

of Sum 41 except for one of them the remaining guy is Edge Lambert you just didn't know it this whole time you didn't know it he's the skinny guy

in the background oh for sure yeah or he's the guy behind Murphy Lee I'm so sad is this topic done I could try one more

but no it's done it would be stretching like a Layton hey until next year you know what's great yeah Layton

Layton's damn near normal Like next year We're gonna get a fucking Spatula Spatula McGillicuddy But here's the thing I'm coming up with

Names of things Yeah They're just Smashing sounds together These are people Who exist That are named These things

Do you think they're just Getting prefixes And suffixes And just They got like a name Generator I'm telling you People don't name their kids so their kids have a great name anymore.

They name their kids so their parents can ask the other parents, oh, where'd you come up with that name? I'm telling you, it's a conversation piece. You're giving your man or woman, that's how you need to look at a baby, by the way, you're giving your adult human being, you're giving them a name because of a conversation you want to have once. At a dinner party.

At a dinner party over some Merlot. Yeah, really. Yeah. I mean I honestly think This is my son Slash professional wrestler Edge Lambert Kind of gross isn't it

And his tag team partner Steel Boomer And his novelty item Slash brother Wheaton King You know when you say Wheaton King Fuck

Wheaton King What the fuck man That's a person Where is your Where are your family Where are your friends And also Can you imagine

I just want you to imagine Okay so you come over to my house, I got an infant's son. That infant's son is four weeks old and you guys are holding that son for the first time. You go, what's its name? And I say, Steele. Do you look at a baby and look, yeah, I see Steele.

I see Steele. I get it. Thanks. And then we chest bump and break fucking beer bottles over our faces. Pillies, for sure. Right, obviously. Oh, Saskatchewan Champagne. You guys. Yes, Jesse. We found

Hot Take Mountain. What? We found the place where all hot takes are born. Shut up. And where they come from and where they exist. And the greatest hot takery on earth. The birthplace of hot takes. All hot takes.

It's like a pancake factory for hot takes. What is this? This place. Fox Sports Radio Online. Their morning show. So it only exists online. Because there are morning shows now that only exist online I've seen them tweet a bunch of things

From their Fox Sports Radio Twitter account That I could have swore their account got hacked Or it's a parody account That's just real This is the place where Hot Take is birthed It's birthed by the way Going in the 6th round of the next year's WHL

I can't wait for Mark Madden to go work with them Do you want me to run down The list of topics they talked about Yes, every day you know what we can this is great because we can do this

every time every day what are they talking about today they openly do articles so it's a Fox Sports station they'll be like here's something an ESPN writer said

and fuck them yeah oh yeah and that's can I just quickly before you start the thing is is that Fox Sports

this is only online that's a big deal guys for broadcast that they're putting all that effort into a quote unquote morning show that streams live

frankly it is a good idea and it's brave it sounds like the execution may be off a bit Jesse, would you like to continue? So, it's hosted by Mike North and Andy Furman

Their show is called Fox Sports Daybreak Internet only morning show, runs every day Every day they post what they talked about that day So, May 6th, which is two days ago Four days ago Their topic of the day was

Joe Paterno still getting too much blame for Sandusky's sins. Oh my god. Now that was in the news-ish over the last few days. Yeah, because he's known since 1976! What?! Okay.

Yeah, but Adam, you won a bunch of games. Yeah, you're right. You're right. It's amazing what you can forgive if the person's a winner. He's dead now, so that means the bad things he did cancels it out. April 20th, they wrote an article which they titled, Greg Popovich is a tool.

A couple of days before that, they wrote, Rob Manfred is a tool. Greg Popovich, I believe, is the coach of the only team that will challenge Golden State. Like one of the best basketball coaches in the history of... No, not even basketball, like pro sports. Oh yeah, 100%. I've never seen a coach openly shit talk how many rings he has at a parade. did you see that where he's like

one oh yeah and there was two and then three it's amazing on March 7th at 8am

Mike North and Andy Furman talked about how and I quote Kyrie Irving is a dumb player LeBron James should slap him

North and Furman trashed Kyrie Irving for being a dumb player And say LeBron James needs to bitch slap him For popping off on Twitter That's in the description? This is their blog I am reading from their website

Okay, okay, okay You know what? I know what they're going for I know what they're going for They're going for having their show be talked about By shows like ours And on Twitter And on Facebook

And all that shit And they won They just won They're trying to find an audience On the internet by appealing to an audience that doesn't know how to use the internet. Like, honestly.

Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? You post inflammatory shit? You don't know how to plug in a Wi-Fi cable if you're that stupid. I'm sorry. No, your parents do it for you. Ah, maybe.

That's how it works. Jesus, this is... What else have we got? I'm not going to read that one. You're not even going to read it? It's a little far. Here, here, wait. Which one?

Alright. Hold on, let me see it. Read it! They're not your words. They're not your words. Whoa. They're not your words. No, you can read it.

That's the title. That's the title of the fucking thing. What's the site? It's, uh, here. Deadspin screencapped the best ones, but it's foxsportsradio.iheart.com. It's on iHeart. Yeah, this is where it runs.

Fox Sports is affiliated with iHeart, and they run it every morning. Wow. iHeart's the biggest radio app in the United States and Australia. So if you went to foxsportsradio.iheart.com slash foxsportsdaybreak, you'll find all of their blogs. Wow. Okay. So they wrote on December 22, 2015, Daybreak hosts, Matthew Stafford's wife is a greedy pig.

What's the title? Was their topic of the day. What's the title? Matthew Stafford's wife is a greedy pig. do they want to have jobs after this one's done or have any sort of respect maybe this is their last shot dude if maybe i don't know did they get fired for the last job if this was what you had to do to continue to get a paycheck would you not just say i'm going to do something else i was kind of saying to jesse like i watched like some popular youtubers

and i look at what they do and i go you know what it wouldn't be that much harder to be, like, bigger. But there's just some things I don't want to do. Yeah. There's just some things I don't want to do for my soul. We were talking off mic. Physically and talent-wise, they wouldn't be that difficult to pull off,

but emotionally, they'd be hard. There's a couple of guys that they're going to put on Fox Sports 1 because they've got the guy that ran ESPN and created the explosion of ESPN banter television, basically, and they brought him to Fox. And so that's how Skip Bayless has jumped ship And they're going to do another show

And I forget what it's called And Deadspin was talking about it And it's going to run for an hour at 6 o'clock And they're like, oh my god, an hour of these two windbags I don't know who they are, I've never heard of them I'm sure they're big to somebody Will it be a little bit of what I was talking about? Oh yeah!

Yes And they made a really good point in it And I thought they made a really good point That I think is interesting There seems to be this tendency that to make great television or to make great radio, the hosts must find a disagreement with each other. And I don't think that's true.

I think that's just easy. Well, Adam, you just laugh along and agree with me. Well, of course. I read that. Did you read that? I read that too. I read that, so it's true. And it's funny because I have been told by consultants before

that A, I should pretend to be single. I was also told, well, you've got to find the... the controversy between you and your co-host. Which, by the way, half your stories are, so here's how I fucked up in my relationship today.

Yeah. So it's the dumbest advice ever. Sometimes it's not about disagreeing with each other. It's about having a different angle on something. And I think that the angle thing is harder.

Heaven forbid you should be authentic. Right? Heaven forbid. And that's the thing is that, Steve, I have no problem agreeing with you, but I can add to your point

or I can have a differing view on that point. And we're still having a discussion that's interesting. whereas these guys just go red is the color blue and the guy goes no red is the color red actually

actually oh yeah and when we come back and when we come back we're going to debate yellow it's oh it's disrespectful to the league MVP they lack respect this is great so we're going to come back to this well great would you guys

be interested in doing a NHL headline type of game with these. Yeah! Yeah? Yes! And then you give us the ridiculous title back.

Yes. Not getting home early tonight. Yeah. No, we're not doing that today. Not now. Next up. Oh. So we'll just, yeah,

what are the idiots at Fox Sports 1 Radio? I'll give you, like, the scenario. Talking about you. This is great. I love this. Okay, perfect.

Should we do the mic how they discuss LeBron James unwilling to take direction. So they said, the title was, LeBron James is the real problem

in Cleveland. I'm sure that's how Cleveland feels too I'm sure everybody in Cleveland is like God I wish we didn't have LeBron So there you go Gee whiz Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love Those are the stars here

By the way With no disrespect Here's how badly the Marlies are beating Albany's ass I thought they were just replaying the game we just watched Remember how I said Oh yeah and they won 3-2 No that was the end of the second period That was the end of the second period

It's 6-1 now That's how badly they're killing them Let's do the press conference boys Oh wow, the Marlies just scored again Holy crap Speaking of that Okay, so I think it's pretty safe to say that game is over The Caps-Penguins game will not be over by the time we finish recording this

But should we say goodbye to the Capitals and risk jinxing? Yeah, let's do it Should we say RIP? Caps, girl bye Actually, boy bye, like Beyonce Boy bye Everything you own in a box To the left

Right Never made it out of the second round Alexander Ovechkin No they made it out of the third round once Didn't they make it to the third round The Dale Hunter year I think so Yeah he's been to a conference finals

I think so One time They didn't win Damn But this has to do With what we were talking about before And I guess we forgot to bring up Can we do it now

Before the press conference Real quick Sure Even though we fired The press conference thing It's already out there No who cares We can do it again

What is it Well no The two best teams In the east Are facing each other In the second round And one of them Is going to be gone

In the second round Marlies and Devils Whoever wins this series Obviously I want the Marlies To win but Whoever wins It's kind of a tragic thing For the AHL

It's the top two teams Forget conference Forget division The league Top two teams in the league And one of them Is going to be out At the end of the second round

In the west It's the exact same thing Dallas finished first In the conference St. Louis finished second in the entire conference And they play each other in the second round It makes no sense I need to eat guff for a sec

I said the Sharks were going to have a cup of tea Against the Preds Game 7 And I've also been pretty dismissive of the Dallas Stars Who just forced game 7 And they haven't played a damn game these playoffs Without Tyler Sagan They might make it to the third round without him

Sorry, did I say with? Anyway, they haven't played a damn game with Tyler Sagan The Dally Starsman Dally Starsman with Curry Letneman and Anthony Newman

I heard his nickname going into the playoffs was Kerry Letneman am I right? am I right? so don't give me that look

do we need to start a bad joke jar? I feel like we need to I feel like and then we need to go back no Adam I like not being broke Dude I bombed in Starbucks today

Jesse was like Jesse asked me to explain something I said like four times Until I was just like Jesse just let me wear it Just let me wear my bad joke God bless you for at least having the patience to go through it Yeah Steve what did you try and say When I tried to buy you a coffee Oh

Cause I didn't realize he was paying So what I said was and I'll take a Thanksgiving dinner And I said What The point was at Thanksgiving dinner would be an expensive and ridiculous thing

to expect your friend to buy. And then I had to follow up with is that a phrase people say? Because the only reason someone would say something so stupid is that it was an old phrase that people used to say.

It was at that moment I realized I'm actually a father. I didn't know that but I'm now a dad. Carrie Ledman. Marns Barn. Oh, fuck. Let's move on.

Carrie Ledman and Marns Barn. I'm Kimmy C. Who I assume named their Reddit name after the wine. says that they have a huge presentation on Thursday. You're fucked. That determines whether or not I graduate high school. Can you give

them some words of encouragement? Steve and Adam, go. Just forget about it. Start a video blog. You're fine. No, wait. Okay, so this presentation determines whether or not you will... They graduate high school. Okay. Why did you not work hard enough throughout high school?

First of all, how dare you? Why did you not work hard enough throughout high school that you've left it this late to come down to come down it's coming down to a project for you? A presentation.

Let me give you some life advice, okay? Let me give you some life advice. Do not let it come down to the last second. You don't want

a buzzer beater when it comes to something as important as high school, okay? But this could be a great moment. You need no, it's still not a great moment

because okay, if it takes one project one project to pass high school No one remembers game seven goals Then how great were your grades otherwise? They were not good.

No one gives a shit that the Vancouver Canucks lost three straight games to the Blackhawks after being up three nothing on them in 2011. All they know is they won game seven in overtime. That is what you know. All I know is this. All I know is this. If it takes one project for you to pass or fail high school,

you screwed up elsewhere, and you need to give the whole thing a look. They were looking for words of encouragement, people. I would encourage you to be smarter. That's what I would encourage. Okay. You're about to be in a high pressure situation. Because you fucked up.

Because you fucked up. Now, here's the thing. You got some time and you're wasting it listening to this podcast. In the middle of the sentence I'm speaking, stop listening. Prepare. Okay. Know this shit. Know the stuff you're talking about front to back.

You can't be looking at any papers. Well, maybe for reference, maybe flashcards and stuff. If you can't be nervous or hesitant or unsure of the content you're speaking of, you need to know this shit like it's your best friend. Know it, study it, kill it. You don't stand a chance. Wow. No, no, no.

No, no, you can't backtrack now. I agree with Steve. Also, very key, get a good sleep. Don't stay up late and don't lose sleep because you will not absorb the information I always find with studying. You must get like a full, if you're an eight-hour sleeper, get your eight hours. It's worth it. You will absorb more information in a shorter period of time. And you will stumble if you are poorly rested.

Also, be careful how much coffee you have right before the presentation because you may be a little too jittery and nervous. And you'll already have plenty of adrenaline going through your bloodstream. And it'll be the end of your high school era. It'll be over, hopefully. Someone on Reddit wants to know, When do the Rangers blow it up and trade Lundqvist? Ooh, I don't know if they trade Lundqvist ever.

We solved the least problem. Oh, done. And done. Yeah. And done. Take Bernier straight up and done. If I were the Rangers, if I were an intelligent owner of the New York Rangers, I'd say blow it up this year and trade Lundqvist to a team like Nashville

that really needs a goalie. Nashville really needs a goalie. Pecorino. You know who'd look good in Nashville? He's doing great in these playoffs. Believe me, I'm a detractor of Pecorino. Steven Stamkos would look great in Nashville. You know?

Yeah, you know what? You make a good point. It's true. Him and Ryan Johansson would be fun to play together, but he would have to be, one of them would have to switch to Wayne. Yeah, he would. And they probably have the money.

Mm-hmm. They have the room. I can't imagine. I don't know about the money. I can't see, in all honesty, I can't see the Rangers trading Lundqvist. I can't see that happening But I do see this

I think that Stahl If I were them I'd let Stahl go I'd trade Nash I'd start to get rid of those things If you can trade Nash I don't know if you can Matt Zuccarello is a great player

Try to clear up your blue line So you got Dan Boyle coming off the books Dan Girardi has not looked good You got McDonough You got McDonough McDonough's pretty good You know Now it's time to start clearing the pieces out

Like the Leafs did Now it's time to flush the system a little bit. But you're asking, and it's hard to do. We, on the outside, have a different view of it, but as hard as an NHL GM, that's probably a playoff team in New York still. And you're asking a GM to give up a team that's probably going to make the playoffs

and strip it to the bone. Hard to do. Which, it's New York, man. I don't know about that fan base. Pay now, gain later. Get a head start on it. Because here's the thing. We have yet to see a team that needs to rebuild.

Like, they come to the end of their window, their cycle, and actually recognize, you know what? Yeah, it's time. Because the teams that do or the teams that would, let's say Detroit recognizes it this summer the way they should. Even they're not a great example. I know, but that's the point. Because they're at the very end of it. But, Steve, we haven't had an example. That's my point.

But the team that actually is honest with themselves and figures it out first will bounce back faster. Guarantee it. Guarantee it. Canucks, too. I say this. Rangers and Canucks and Detroit need to do the same thing. Time to start clearing the people out and rebuilding.

Canucks, of those three, have the best prospects, and they've got a really good draft pick in the first round this year. Fifth, I want to say. Yeah. I mean, they've got some—they could bounce back very quickly. it's just a matter of can you figure out your options

fast enough and be honest with yourself and go we're not going to win the cup with this roster Edmonton by the way

almost gets to save themselves from themselves they could probably get Jacob Chikrin at fourth overall no one would be like oh it's an off the board

pick and then you get a great defenseman just throwing that out there yeah random was that the question? no no

it was something to do with Lundqvist yeah would they trade Lundqvist I don't think they'd trade him Do you know the final two players left in the NHL 17 cover vote? I actually don't.

I know Conor McDavid didn't make it. When his campaign was pretty freaking cool, so I'm surprised. And I feel like it's rigged because how does Conor McDavid not win that? If you don't, okay, you know how you don't have Conor McDavid win it? Because he finished second to John Scott. Yes. Dude, and I'm not making a joke. I'm being serious.

How sick and how hilarious would that have been? Would have been great. It would have been great. Especially a picture of him at the All-Star game. The cover would have been him at the All-Star game. Yeah, with the swipe. The glove sweep. We didn't get behind that.

We thought about it briefly, but it was like, eh, we've caused enough shit. I don't want to get in more trouble. The final two players left for the cover vote are Vladimir Tarasenko of the St. Louis Blues. Pretty damn good. And Joe Pavelski of the San Jose Sharks. oh reminder no sydney crosby ever who you voting for once i'm just glad it's not a blackhawk again with no offense to san jose joe joe pavelski dude he's really good i know but with no offense joe pavelski not brent burns here's why you go

joe pavelski team usa okay and he's one of team usa's better players you're right yeah they did a thing where they you could they picked teams from each of the World Cup teams I think it was

I'm partial to oh is that how they did it that makes sense might be I'm partial to Tarasenko because he played on CKSA Moscow and that's my team

SKA SKA sorry yeah they did one representative from each World Cup of Hockey team St. Petersburg sorry

one representative from each World Cup of Hockey team so and it came down that's why McDavid was in all the Canadian stuff

All right, that makes way more sense. I'd go with Pavelski. But, like, even though he's a great player, like, is that one of the bigger names in the sport? Well, that's not the NHL. Well, it is the NHL's problem. It's also EA's problem. I think, you know, if you had a problem with John Scott

being in the All-Star game because he somehow wasn't a big enough star for your game, now you've got your actual game that's going to go into 10 million homes or more, 10 million-plus homes. your video game. What? It's a little different.

Steve, it's on the cover. A little different. Joe Pavelski's kind of really good at hockey. I don't think it's any different. We're talking about marketable stars. Marketable stars. Steve, how many Joe Pavelski jerseys outside of San Jose

do you see walking around? Make the noise. It's the Joe Rogan I'm not sure sound. My cousin. The answer is zero, Steve. He's a Sharks fan. Zero. The answer is zero.

Not a lot of Tarasenko jerseys. I rarely see yours poke out. Well, it's because I'm not wearing my Tarasenko jersey to work. You should wear it next podcast. Maybe I should. I'm just saying, weak, man. Weak. Should be Crosby versus Ovechkin.

That's where they should have started. All right. We're going to give you two people to vote on. Is it going to be Crosby or is it going to be Ovechkin? Not in multiple rounds. Personally, I would probably prefer Tarasenko. Me too. I think they should choose Pavelski.

Sales will rocket in California. Skyrocket. No, they won't. It won't make a damn difference that Joe Pavelski is on that. You're wrong. I'm not wrong. It doesn't matter. Because you know what?

San Jose still, I believe, are they having trouble selling out? No, no, they're okay. It's Florida that had trouble selling a playoff game. San Jose's good. San Jose's good. I always just look like there are probably teams out there that haven't even had a guy on the cover yet. Arizona?

Yeah, probably. And the Sharks, I think this would be their third guy in recent memory. Because they had Owen Nolan. And Joe had to be on it, too. Joe Thornton was, but I don't know if he was a Shark when he was on the cover. Good question. I want to say yes. I want to say yes, too.

Nothing beats the Danny through the year, though. And then it'd be Pavelski. That's a lot of sharkage in 16 years. 17 years, I guess. That's a lot of sharkage. 2000 was great. I played that on my PC. I was a keyboard wizard.

I don't know, man. That's back when you could stack your team, too. That's right. That was the Chris Pronger on the front, right? Wasn't that the Chris Pronger year? Oh, no. Owen Nolan was 2001. Joe Thornton was on the cover of NHL 10 in a San Jose Sharks jersey.

Steve had the game It must have It was? But then why does that say 2009? Well that one says 10 What the fuck is going on here? That's wrong No because 2009

That wasn't What the hell is going on? Anyway there's a lot of sharks I don't know A lot of sharks Oh they just showed that Johnson hit I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go out and say that

That If I am the marketing team For EA And the NHLPA and the NHL all the teams get together I go here are our two biggest stars

Crosby and Ovechkin let's have a vote off between the two of them end of story done finished let's not even talk about it I think

what what were you going to say Jesse here's the story behind the Joe Thornton cover Joe Thornton was originally chosen but EA switched to Danny Heatley

after Thornton was accused of assaulting two police officers oh after the 2003 2004 season see is the choice of Danny Heatley

No, but then they had to take Danny Healy off the cover as well. And I think they ended... Well, yes, because that was when the accident happened. And then I believe they ended up with Joe Sackick. You would be correct. Joe Sackick. Why do I know that? A lot of tough history with the cover.

Yeah. Yeah. Bit of a curse. Bit of a curse. And then it was finally broken, and then it was very not broken. Yeah. All right. Any other questions?

No. We're good. We're good Okay Obviously it should be Austin Matthews I agree In a Winnipeg Jet Street

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