The Steve Dangle Podcast - The Steve Dangle Podcast - May 16, 2017 - Punt

Episode Date: May 16, 2017

On the episode, the guys talk about both remaining series, the Capitals going crazy, the Oiler Canucks, NOT avocado toast, stupid Duke and the STUPID Atlanta Braves. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

unfortunately we have to start today's show with uh some breaking news oh uh oilers tweeted two minutes ago that andre sacara will be out six to nine months with a torn acl whoa that's a long time that's a lot of long time that's a long long that is that's december january 2018 i guess yeah yeah oh yeah i didn't know that damn so that's very bad that sucks that does suck and i can't imagine i mean this is looking very far down the road but i can't imagine he comes back and looks you know even at 80 of himself by the end of the season so you're probably looking at getting Andre Sequeira back back 2018-2019 season. That's rough.

That's pretty bad. Oilers are going to want some help on the back end. Yeah, and there's already talk about that. But hey, we'll get to it. All the more reason to re-sign Chris Russell. Absolutely. Hey, Chris Russell literally just printed himself some cash there. Three million?

Four. Four million. Over five years. Oh, there you go. The Leafs almost gave him that last summer. Yeah. Steve was on breakfast television this morning That's right

I don't know how you do it What do you mean? Because I feel like that was yesterday It does feel like a different day, doesn't it? I got up eight hours ago How do you do that? That's dumb Anybody that gets up early in the morning can attest to this

If you're an early morning, even an overnight person If you work from midnight to 8am I've done the midnight shifts too and radio. I've done that, yeah. It feels like it's a different day by noon. It feels completely different. I feel like every day is two days. I remember driving home on the Gardner

at like one in the afternoon just going this is dumb. What am I doing? Yeah, it's weird. It's also nice you get to go home and nap. What'd you do in the meantime? What do you mean? In between 9am and noon. Drove all the way back. Oh, today I drove back. Across the many borders to Oshawa. Did you really?

I had an appointment. I had to. I told him you can come over and sleep and he was like no no no because otherwise i would have i would have gladly watched you play video games with your little headset i was on uh i wasn't uh i wasn't on bt this morning uh but what i did notice from steve's appearance was not only was he looking handsome and you got a nice linen shirt on now i think it looks great it's the same shirt nice blue shirt it's good um the other thing i jesse is that steve missed a reunion you did yeah he missed a he missed a reunion because i have a buddy m right okay oh i have a buddy m you missed a reunion with a buddy m but it's your

buddy m double m i would say mark messier will be on the show tomorrow and you actually you know what i did hear that i did hear that and under my breath i'm like i'm sure that's gonna be really good what's he promoting some more chips yeah i have no what What corporate thing will he open up for us? Will he sign on with Ruffles? I have no idea, guys. Hey, remember, he works with Rogers, just like we do. And Connor McDavid.

Yeah, you bet. So, you know. Yeah, Connor McDavid, TM. That's right. Connor McDavid really is like a... It won't be long before he's selling everything. Did you see that email that Mark Messier sent out? Steve Harvey, I'm sorry.

Steve Harvey sent out that email. My bad. Wow. Wow. What? What? What? He was Adam.

This tea is delicious That is one of the top five Scores in NHL history And I said top five Because I don't remember Exactly where But he's there I think he's second

Isn't he Maybe I'm pretty sure he's second I'm pretty sure he's second I feel like that might be Gordie Howe In overall points Oh no

Did Yager take that over yet I don't know I thought Messier was Second overall I mean he might have been At some point in our lives No Messier is way down the list

Oh What It's Gretz Oh this is goals No, points. How dare you? This is important. It's okay.

Go to NHL.com and take 20 minutes. Gretzky, Jager, Messier. How? So Jager just passed in that. My information's just a little out of date. I was thinking goals. I think that would have been fantastic. I also want to throw this weird factoid at you before we actually get into the Pens-Sens game last night.

By the way, Pens-Sens. Perfect matchup for rolling off your tongue. Ends. Ends. Ends. 40-year-old Matt Cullen. is the only player left in the 2017 Stanley Cup playoffs that has played for all four remaining teams.

I saw that. How wild is that? It's Adam Wilde is what it is. There is a picture of him in the tweet that originally says this that has the NHL 2000. Remember it had the 2000 thing and it had NHL and the zeros? And he's in the purple and green Ducks jersey. Whoa.

I know. Whoa. Now, we've talked about a concept a number of times on this show. Originally brought to my attention by Justin Bourne. It's like the all-nobody team. Jack of all trades. What NHL nobody had the best career? I think one of the examples brought up was Andreas Dackel.

Nobody. Played over a thousand games. Radek Dvorak? Oh, yeah. Close to a nobody. What about Radek Bonk? Radek Bonk? Kind of a nobody.

A little bit of a nobody. And I'm not trying to say it in... Competent bum That's it You can't win a Stanley Cup without a few Competent bums And Pittsburgh did it last year with a Matt Cullen Is he a little bit better than a competent bum?

I mean He might be the best competent bum All time You can be king of the competent bums That's still something to be proud of Listen, if you've played that many years If you were playing in 2000 and you're still playing now Accomplishment

What is Matt Cullen's career high in points? Let's look that up I want to know that. Is it higher than Jonathan Taves? It probably would be. Probably not. His career totals are 248 goals, 441 assists, 689 points in 1,366 NHL games. 1,300 games.

And he's Matt Cullen. He played his first game for the Anaheim Mighty Ducks. The Mighty Ducks. The Mighty Ducks. In 1997-1998 Wow And he played 61 games for them that year That would have been

That's 20 years ago Joe Thornton's rookie season I think He has 49 points He did it 2 times Wow The most recent time was 2008 With the Hurricanes But he had 5 40 point seasons in a row

Hey That's not Hey! I mean, listen, it's not bad. It's not bad at all. He's got to be probably top 50 in terms of games played. He has to be. Yeah, I would think so.

1,300? Like, Jerome McGinley just hit 1,300. No, points, sorry. How many 25-goal seasons does Nazem Khadri have? One. Two? Is it one or two? Because the lockout shortened one he definitely would have, but it was lockout shortened.

So that doesn't count. Well, he's got at least one. I'm going to say two. He has one. Yeah, it's this year. The same number as Matt Cullen. Wow. That's true.

One-time 25-goal scorer Matt Cullen. Had Matt Cullen been on the Leafs, he probably would have been in the top 100. Now, does scoring 25 goals or more take you out of competent bum territory, even if it's only once? Well, he did it more than once. How many times did Bates Bataglia do it? Oh, no, he did it once. He did it once.

He did it one time. Is Matt Cullen Bates Bataglia? He might be, because he got 22 goals once. And I was looking at his Italy numbers. His Italy numbers during the lockout were just disgusting. Oh, wow. 36 games, 27 goals, 33 assists. Not bad.

Just taking the piss. I'm not making fun of Matt Cullen. Can we make this clear? I love when NHL players... No, no, no, no. I'm fully supporting Matt Cullen. Team Matt Cullen right here. It's like, I want PK to win the cup, Matt Cullen again, end of list.

I think we're done here. Did he win a cup, though? Yeah, last year. Oh, he did, yeah. And maybe the 05-06 Hurricanes that won? Yes. So he won with them, too. I think it should say at the bottom of his page.

No, it doesn't. Not on HockeyDB. Stupid HockeyDB. I don't even remember what it was. But that's pretty cool. I mean, the fact that, and that season was by far his best season. 25 goals, 24 assists, 49 points, and 18 points in the playoffs. It's nothing to sneeze at.

No, I think he's outside of competent bomb territory. But, I mean, that longevity, that's pretty impressive. I wonder if you... To play past 36 at all. I wish you could know. Like, I'm not sure if the NHL ever releases this. But, like, as a player, do you know how many, like, the exact number of people that buy your jersey? Because they must keep track of that.

Right? Because they have to. Because you get a percentage. Right. So I would love to know how many Matt Cullen jerseys were sold over the course of the years. Like, who's a third-line winger fan? Yeah. Because there are those people.

Those jerseys exist. You see them in every game. They're the hardcore fans that really love that one guy. It's funny. A lot of people, especially in Leafland, like to buy a jersey of someone who's not quite the star, but they're either new, a fan favorite, or both. That's why there's a lot of Christopher Stieg jerseys walking around. Yeah, that's true.

That's true. I saw a couple of Michael Renberg jerseys. Because you're too cool to get Sundin. I'm going to get Michael Renberg. Shut up. Get a Sundin. Shout out to all the people that had the Freddie Modine 19 jerseys. Hey, and I like this one.

I appreciate this one because he was my favorite player at the time. Steve Thomas. Oh, a lot of people had Stumpy. That's a fan favorite. Freddie Modine, though, you might just be a little bit difficult. I think you're just being difficult. All right, all right, all right. So here's the thing.

Okay, all 30 teams can't pick a star. Whose jersey do you get? Oh, my God. Oh, let's do this for the next 30 minutes. Wait, we got to pick one from every team? No, no, no, just like one player from all 30 teams. That's what we want from the listeners? No, no, yeah.

Well, yeah, the listeners can weigh in with that. I would hope if you're listening. I'm not doing one for every team, man. No, that's not what I'm asking. I'm asking for one player. Oh, in the entire NHL? It could be of any of the 30 teams, but just one player. Why did you phrase it like that?

Well, I thought that was pretty clear. No. Okay, well, I apologize. Two people are sitting here confused. So it was not clear. You know what? Fair enough. Okay, I concede.

One player of the 30 teams. Of the 30 teams. In the NHL. In the NHL. Would have been a better way to phrase that. Okay, fair. Fair. Like, if you're like a Penguins fan, and you got like a Carl Hagelin jersey, I think.

Yeah, that's a good one, because he's beloved. Because you would see that and go, yeah. Like, if you're a Jagats fan, Foligno. No, he's the captain, man. I know, but still, he's not like, he's not their, he's great, but he's not like their A-plus goal scorer. A Mark Fain jersey. No, that's, now see, now you're just being difficult. What?

I think there's an interesting, there's a gap between star players and fan favorites being difficult, whatever we're talking about. Boston Bruins Back in the day Johnny Boychuck Too much of a fan favorite Johnny Boston No Too much of a

Johnny Boston You just said it Okay I'm trying to think Okay okay okay Kevin Miller Anton Hudobin Oh boy

Now you're just getting obscure Yeah see that's just being difficult You're right Right See See I thought fan favorite counted A Peter Boudai jersey No you're difficult

I think you're being difficult He did take them through 61 games He starts for the Kings all season, goes to Tampa, you get a Budai jersey. What about Tanner Pearson? Or is he too good? I think he's too good. Yeah. Maybe if you're the Islanders, like Hamannik?

I think he's a little bit too good. Aaron Ness. If you're an Islanders fan and you get an Aaron Ness jersey. Anyway, pick your team. Pick the player from your team. They could be a fan favorite. I'm not calling Aaron Ness bad. No, they could be a fan.

I'm not calling Matt Cullen back. Competent bum territory, but they can also be a fan favorite, right? Because competent bums usually are fan favorites. Dare I say Matt Cullen? There you go. There you go. Does anybody out there own a Pittsburgh Penguins Matt Cullen jersey? Or a Ducks Matt Cullen jersey if you really want to get crazy.

Send us your jersey and we'll tell you if it's a star slash fan favorite what we're talking about, which we still haven't named yet, or being difficult. Now, are we sure that we want to put fan favorite and star in the same category? Well, because, like, Steve Thomas wasn't a star, but it made sense that you had his jersey. Right. That made sense. He's a fan favorite. You know?

I wish I knew where that jersey was. What about UC Yolkinen? Oh, I like that. Close. Shootout specialist UC Yolkinen. I like that. I can live with that. Because he's got some highlights.

New York, Merrick Malick, because that one time he scored that one goal. And we're going to replay it on every top ten list for the rest of time. How many Tanner Glass jerseys were sold during these playoffs? Good question And that's just See, that's fan favorite I was going to say being difficult That's fan favorite

Now, for the Leafs, would Leo Komarov be a fan favorite? He's in Christopher Stieg territory Like, he's the cool guy, fan favorite Little bit Steve Thomas So let's define these What's our category? We got stars We got fan favorite but not star

Competent bum and then you're just being difficult. So those are the four categories, okay? Is that what it is? Because I was going to say, like, what I'm trying to figure out, I'm trying to name a category between, like, common, basically,

like a common jersey in your fan base, you're clearly just being difficult, and unique? Like, or unexpected? See, no, I think you've got to simplify. Let's simplify. I'm making it too difficult. I was just really pleased with my Aaron mess.

I think there's stars, I think you've got to put fan favorite slash competent bum, because I think fan favorite sort of denotes that. They're not the best player on the team, but people love the way they play. Leo Comer. Right? There it is. And then you've got to play, you're just being difficult.

And I can't wait to see that you're just being difficult. Where does a guy like Zach Hyman fall on this? That's a tough one. See, rookies get a bit of a pass, but that's close to just being a little bit difficult. He'll always be miming. And the Leafs rookies, too. Well, I get that. They were just such a special crop.

See, though, a lot of people this year were like, well, everyone's going to get a Matthews jersey. I'll get Marner. No. Nylander. No. How many Connor Brown jerseys were sold because people were like, I'm different.

Poor Connor Brown. I'm going to get him. He's so good, and he's just completely overshadowed. I know. I know. Oh, my God. Okay, so let's move on to actually what happened. So send us your jerseys.

Put them on Reddit. Put them on Twitter. Cannot wait to see them. Tag us in them on Instagram. I'm always just curious what people are doing Like in their car or on the bus When they're doing Aaron Ness Penns win but lose two key players

Who are the two? I forget Justin Schultz There was another one on the bench Oh that's right Russ Should we start with the hit? I guess we should What do you think?

Clean as a whistle Me too I saw a lot of people whining about that The foot of hit And a lot of them were Penguins fans and I'm not harping on them, that's your job. Rob Rossi sure didn't like it. Oh, gives a shit.

Like, I mean, that's his job. No, his job is to whatever. Also, happy birthday, Rob Rossi. Apparently it's his birthday I saw on Twitter. But Penguins fans, I mean, yeah, you should be mad when your player gets clocked. But, I mean, I think we've said something similar to this on the show before. Like, if you get lit up by FNUF, it's your lucky day. You're lucky that's who lit you up.

Because he is almost always flippers down, just shoulders, doesn't jump into it, hits you nice and clean. Any other guy in the league would have brained you. And, I mean, rust might come back. Someone else hits you, you're not coming back. You cross those trolley tracks like that, elbows up a bit, comes up. I'm not trying to dump on the guy, but what if you just randomly teleported into Phaneuf's position? Zach Kassian, you're not coming back until next year. You got hit by Dion Phaneuf

Corey Perry, Getzlav, any of those guys If you don't like that hit, really watch it Numerous times If you don't like that hit, then maybe you don't feel Hockey should be a contact sport Believe me, I don't think the NHL does a good job Of protecting its players But that's beautiful

That's exactly what A hockey hit is supposed to be And one thing Phaneuf has Never strayed away from over the years You never know when it's coming either When he was a rookie with Calgary He was a little bit more of a madman And you knew every game

Because he had Roman Hammerlake to cover his ass Yeah, this incarnation of FNUF The Leaf one and now the Sens one It's every two or three months He just murders somebody And it's always clean Flipper down Has he ever been suspended?

Once, and I'm glad you asked Because I looked it up He hit Kevin Miller of the Bruins from behind And even that one I look at the replay and he was being irresponsible, but Kevin Miller also kind of got tripped up and was in a position that I'm sure FNF didn't anticipate him being in. Whatever, he got a two-game suspension.

Does anyone in life, besides Kevin Miller's mother, own a Kevin Miller jersey? In Boston? Yeah. That's why, remember the day... Hey! Miller! You know some guy's going, hey, Miller! Speaking of which, remember I saw the Dave Steckle jersey at... The Leafs' Dave Seckle jersey at a Nashville-Tampa Bay game? Wow.

That's just being difficult. Or our good, like a mother or something. I think it was probably his dad. I don't know. That's pretty great. I should have asked. Why didn't I ask? You know when you think back to things, you're like,

you know what would have been a great thing to do in that moment that I definitely didn't think about because I'm not smart enough? Do you think his dad's like this? Here, ask me about my jersey. Hey, are you Dave Seckle's dad? Glad you asked! Maybe, I don't know I don't know anything about him

Okay, so Hit was fair I mean, obviously the sideshow that everybody's talking about And it's not the hit Is the Kessel Malkin show Oh, you know what? Shoving buddies on the bench That was great

I'm different and you're different And we're having issues How are we going to get along? Yeah, no, that was a beautiful story Like when I saw Kessel score that I'm like, oh, mwah Can I just say that I said to myself in my head And I don't need anybody's validation on this

Because I know I did it I'm like, watch, Phil Kessel's going to be the only one that scores tonight I didn't tweet it, I didn't rep message you guys There's no way to prove that But I was like in my head, there's something brewing And it's like a Lennon-McCartney relationship It's like they can't stand each other But damn, they create some great stuff

Oh, Kessel and Malkin? Yeah, I mean I'm sure they can stand each other But it was probably like a couple It's frustration I mean, the Sens, the one thing they've been credited with throughout these playoffs is they frustrate their opponents. Great defensively. I mean, it's funny. We both kind of messaged each other at the same time, and I think Jesse jumped in, too.

Like, at the second period, when the second period began, we were like, hey, this game's picking up. This is a fun game. You know why the game was fun? Because the Penguins started breaking through the Sens. The Sens had no part in the fun. No. If there's fun going on, it's not them. Unless it's in overtime, then it's always them.

Do you think the Sens over, from watching the game, guys, do you think the Sens overly defended? That's what they do. Right, but I almost feel like they, I mean, they had a few chances, but it didn't feel like they had enough chances. I like the criticism at the end of the game. Like, they didn't really change up the style too much. If they got lucky and got one goal, they had a chance at winning. Yeah, that's true. It was a one-nothing loss.

You're right. Although, I mean Before the Kessel goal It should have been 4-0 Penguins The chances they were fanning on Firing high and all that Crosby put one through Anderson's legs And it went off the side of the net

Crosby to Sheery, miss Crosby to Gensel, miss That has got to be frustrating for Crosby Watching him play Things were just happening He would catch a guy skating the wrong way Skating backwards when he should have been skating forwards Or whatever

And these are The Sens They're screwing them up The Sens are screwing them all up And what was perfect about So Hockey Night in Canada featured the Kessel Malkin fight And they didn't say anything that I wasn't thinking too Which was basically

I don't mind this Kelly Rudy said he's like I don't mind this This happens on the bench But that did get a little out of hand didn't it It seemed a little You know there's a line The fire boiled over That line I thought

But what was perfect at the end of it Is you see Kessel mouth as clear as day Move the puck Move the puck I believe move the fucking puck Oh I think it might have been move the fucking puck So let's be accurate here Malkin's coming down the wing

Kessel's stick hits the ice in a very loud And passive aggressive way Lets him know he's there The second his stick hits the ice Malkin feeds him Kessel takes a shot it's blocked gets the rebound Goal It was beautiful And they hugged each other after.

Exactly. Malkin did what Kessel asked him to do. It led to a goal. Phil Kessel, tactician and genius. The Post-Gazette in Pittsburgh, they wrote a pretty good article about how the narrative would have been so much different if Kessel doesn't score that goal. So true. 100%.

Yelling would have been a thing for the series and how Kessel can't be controlled and how he's a problem in the locker room. It already sort of started in between both periods. I'm like, uh-oh. You could see the storm brewing with where the conversation was going. It's a really good point. And it was like, you know, there were some things. I mean, I know, I think, and I'll say his name, and I would say it to him,

because I know he would back it up, but Nick Kiprios was very not, he did not seem very comfortable. He was ready to hop on that train. Yes, he was. And I wonder, you know, I've seen him make a couple comments about it before. And he was talking about the difference in playing styles in the Penguins. It related to Sidney Crosby's concussion in round two when this happened. And he's like, you know, you look at the amount of hits Sidney Crosby throws,

and it's like eight a game or something, and then Kessel, it's like eight all year. And he kind of made that comparison. Now, that's not a fair comparison. That's not true. I'm paraphrasing here, but the idea is the same. And I think Nick, when he looks at it, he probably goes, okay, you're yelling at this guy,

and yet you're not willing to do all these things. And I think that that would have definitely snowballed into something bigger. There's a great Vine from last year. It's Crosby skates over to Kessel Who's smiling And you can't see what Crosby's saying But he obviously said something angrily And Kessel goes fuck you

What the fuck are you yelling at me for And again just mouths it clear as day Kessel doesn't care He's so good What is it 13 points in 13 games these playoffs Playoff Kessel Is great Look at his career

Playoff numbers with the Leafs With the Bruins and now with the Penguins Can we also talk about the fact that Every narrative after the game And this is what I found really really interesting I hate that fucking word Sorry I'm not lecturing you for using it It's just everyone uses it

All the content after the game Oh that's much better All that digital content Was it sticky? It was I found it to be meaty That's what I hear a lot Meat and potatoes

Sorry I'm looking for something What I found interesting was Everybody talking about well Kessel's a loud and passionate guy And in Toronto The The first criticism leveled at him Was that he was a quiet dispassionate person

It's so amazing how Quickly that switches right It's so dumb it's crazy Dumb is what it is Well and I finally found what I was looking for Holy mackerel The narrative so quickly changed

On Ryan Johansson Well, and it's his own fault. We're getting to that. Yeah. We're getting to that. Oh, so should I save it? Yeah, save it. Save that.

I'll save it. Save that. Screenshot. There you go. While we're on the pens, and we'll wrap it up here because we do need to talk about that series and specifically those quotes, but, you know, we have here a series that could still, I think, go either way. And Bobby Ryan...

I think the Sens are going to win. You do, eh? I think if they win, I don't know how they don't win at all. Like I just I could see Nashville beating them I could see that There is a rule There is a rule

I once heard About the Stanley Cup playoffs Basically Cinderella Always makes Something along the lines Makes an appearance But doesn't win

Yeah Cinderella always Makes it to the ball And then Are they Cinderella though? Leaves behind her shoe Well it's It's interesting Because

We're talking about What the second seed In the Atlantic Yeah Are they Cinderella If the Preds make it Which that series is tied By the way

They're the second wild card team They're literally the eighth seed Yeah, they had to make it this far In order for the Leafs to pick 17th Like, the Leafs and Preds pick Was still up in the air It could be two Cinderella's What happens if it's two Cinderella's?

The most boring Cinderella wins Congrats to Ottawa on the 2017 Stanley Cup That's right It is interesting watching now You can't watch every team all the time And pick up the little nuances in their game So the playoffs are great because you actually get to watch the best teams, and you get to watch, you know, when your team's out, you get to, which

our team normally in the past has been, you get to pick up subtle nuances about other teams, and what I've noticed about Ottawa is, gee, what a shock that Bobby Ryan struggled this year. Really? No, it's not a shock at all. I'm being sarcastic. Are you kidding me? No, I know.

In that system? Of course he struggles. That is not a Bobby Ryan system, man. But he's been excelling in these playoffs. He has been. He has been. And I don't know whether that's buy-in, or whether or not he's been set up to succeed a little bit better, or a little bit of both,

but I am not shocked that Bobby Ryan had a rough year this year. And I'm sure part of it's adjustment. I just don't think that Bobby Ryan I mean, I don't think he was ever known for playing a highly responsible hockey game. I don't know. Well, like a more skilled,

more lethal Joffrey Lupo a little bit. You know, right-handed shot, can score goals. Doesn't know what's behind him. That was the point though. Now he has to. And I wonder if that was part of the reason that his stats weren't great. Maybe he was battling an injury or not. But I looked at that and I was like, of course

Bobby Ryan didn't do well. But I'm sure next year, after this run, and the confidence that team has in their head coach now, it may be a little bit easier for them. You never know. The big playoff performers, they rarely find a way to do it consistently. A lot

of them get big paydays out of it. Justin Williams. Justin Williams, yeah, but he found a way to do it consistently. Sean Bergenheim, Fernando Pisani, That's right You know, I hate to say his name Because he just retired due to unfortunate circumstances

But Brian Bickle Those guys, they rarely find a way Dave Boland, Christopher Stieg Christopher Stieg was a little more consistent But he wasn't a huge playoff performer Boland had a huge playoffs And he caught everyone's attention That one's good, I like that one

But they rarely find a way to do it consistently You know, regular season in Playoff out Every year They have a hard time It'll be very interesting to see what happens there And you gotta hope Bobby Ryan produces a little He's making 7 million bucks

If you're Ottawa And just cause I'm Canadian Mr. Trudeau Doesn't mean I have to cheer for the Ottawa Senators Democracy I don't have to listen to you Alright let's talk about the Preds and Ducks Let's do it I'm gonna play the Johansson quote for you guys Just so we can talk about

This is Ryan Johansson talking about How he doesn't understand how people can cheer for Ryan Kessler. Ryan Kessler is known to be a pretty good defensive center in this league. He's been up for some awards. Has he gone over the line in this series? I mean, if I was, he just blows my mind. I mean, watching, I don't know what's going through his head out there,

but like his family and his friends watching him play, I don't know how you cheer for a guy like that. I mean, I just, it just doesn't make sense how he plays the game. So, you know, I'm just trying to go there and play hockey. And, you know, it sucks when you've got to pull a stick out of your groin every shift. Now, did Ryan Johansson just hand Ryan Kessler the W? A little bit. Not that Ryan Johansson has underperformed. He played great.

And did he not score the game winner in Game 1? I don't remember. I think so. But, like, looking at Game 2, he had two assists. But when you have a quote like that If you're Ryan Kessler, if I'm Ryan Kessler at least I look at it like I got under his skin I look at it

I went back and forth in my head On this, I look at it a couple ways One, Ryan Johansson is Absolutely right That's deep That's deep, sometime you'll hear a player Say that's gutless Gutless is like

That's an F-bomb like in hockey like an acceptable F-bomb. He's gutless classless show some class Ryan Kessler I don't like that type of player

I'm not that type of player you hear stuff like that I don't know how his family cheers for him like that is I mean people are talking about Ryan Kessler really getting under his skin I'm like I think you're burying the lead here Like, that is some genuine, you don't come back from that.

Like, those guys can't be friends. Those guys can't ever play on the same team. Like, that is, I don't think you can come back from what was it, the day before Mother's Day, basically going, how does this guy's mom cheer for him? How does his wife stand behind him? This guy's a bad example for his kids. And he's absolutely right. Ryan Kessler and a lot of the Ducks

They're Darth Vader They're the villain in this series They get away with murder They do every year Corey Perry is the king of getting away with murder How does anyone who's not on the Ducks Even like him I don't know

Even on Team Canada Do you just stomach them for those couple weeks And then the second the regular season starts You go oh thank god And then you give them a two hand slash in the fingers That is an insufferable player And so is Ryan Kessler And he does stick you in the pills often

However Isn't it great to have a villain? Yeah, it is That isn't Brad Marchand Because if Brad Marchand's the villain It means the Bruins are doing well And you know what, I want a break from that They've done quite well lately

I would like a break from the Bruins And Marchand is the smile-in-your-face villain Ryan Kessler Is the joker Will actually Yeah A little bit He just

Some men just want to watch the world burn And then stick it in the balls That is definitely Brad Marchand Kessler's a little bit of Bane Like just Angry Just Angry

All the time And he is As As vicious as he usually is And as hell bent as he usually is on winning This fucking guy has been so close so many times And he's running out of time This is not only

Dirty Ryan Kessler and determined Ryan Kessler this is desperate Ryan Kessler that's three D's I just said dirty determined desperate I forget the other one thank you desperate but you can't criticize a guy

for getting away with it right I cannot and this is it's an art man and it's the ref's fault it's the league's fault 100% and it brings me to the greater issue of just the officiating in the sport I love

Sucks balls It just sucks And it's only highlighted by Playoff time It's only highlighted by playoff time Bobby Ryan got taken down last night I want to say in the final five minutes Of the

Penguin Sens game And he's going like this to the ref I'm like Bobby what are you complaining for It's less than five minutes left in the third Like you're lucky he didn't stab you Like just pull a switchblade out of his Out of his friggin sock shanky in the ribs and maybe get a talking to after the whistle i just i know it's playoff

hockey and all that no there there are rules what slashing what is slashing it's this all right what is the penalty for it a two minute and uh minor go to the box for two minutes tripping what is tripping well it's when you trip the guy okay you go to the box for two minutes spearing what Oh, well, sometimes I see it two minutes. It's usually five, five-minute major. But in the regular season, you're lucky if you get all those things called perfectly. And in the playoffs, forget it. The refs are decoration.

They're like a Christmas tree. I don't get it. I don't get it. So that, to me, is the greater problem. And I was listening to the radio on the way in, and you know who had a great point? Who's that? Pierre Maguire. Pierre Maguire actually had a great point

Where he goes Ryan Johansson did that To get the refs attention Heading into game three That's a good point There might be other ways to do that Some Refs are cement

Heads and that might make them Less likely to give you A call Which in the sport of hockey Wouldn't surprise me There's a lot of cement headedness There was a PK one recently. What was it?

It was in game two. You know what? I think he got, it was like a two-hand slash or a trip, and it was clear as day, clear as day. Ref was looking at it, right in front of the ref, looking at it. Didn't get called. And I can't help but think, well, he just got fined for embellishment, which is, that's why it didn't get called.

Which, by the way, if you look at the play he was fined for, you go, what? And supposedly those plays go under review and it's ten people who see it and you need at least seven votes to say Yeah, find the guy Seven out of ten people watch that play and we're like totally So it's just a poorly poorly officiated sport. I didn't know when you're watching the National Hockey League I got news for you. This is the best we can do. Hold on my favorite part is that we have a a

democratic process to decide about a black and white issue like Like, do they literally have a vote on, and how do they, who are these 10 people? Okay, you guys, I want to apply for a job, honey. I'm going to put in my application, my application is to be the guy that has a vote, and I get to decide whether or not a player was diving or not. How does that work? I have a hard time with these, because like, again, didn't hashtag play the game, you know, where the hell is my place in this argument?

however if even one of the 10 people is a former player you're doing it wrong have none of that panel not a single person on that panel be a former player because i can't help but feel like they'll be looking at that play and going yeah i've done that before yeah i understand why he did that no no that's not the point the point is is or isn't it allowed did he embellish or didn't Was it a trip or was it not a trip? All those things. Have officials. Have former officials or whatever, whatever.

Elliott Friedman decided to drop 30 thoughts like a hot mixtape today before the show. So we're going to go through some points. Spent too much time in my car. Didn't even see it. A little bit of rapid fire here. Now, all of the 30 points are very, very interesting, including Jordan Subban going to Nashville, not to support his brother, but to watch Ryan Ellis play. Because that was part of the thing.

That wasn't a point, Adam. Oh, that was the intro story. Not a point, though. You're right. Yeah, that was .31. Yes, yes. Oh. Yeah, it was like .05.

I always love when Elliot puts 40 thoughts in 30 thoughts. I know, right? Anyway, so Jordan Zuban's going down there. But what's really interesting is starting with this. Unusual name out of Minnesota. And this is where 30 thoughts really peaks, eh, is this time of year. Not that it's ever not good, but it peaks right before the trade deadline. And it peaks right now

Because it's the end of the playoffs There's a lot of teams out looking around at each other And especially now with the expansion draft And the free agent window And the draft and the free agency itself Oh my god, it's going to be really good During the season He will just disperse throughout

Just a little That's a nice little tidbit There's a lot of ooh in this one This time of year it's just Get a load of this Freed's coming at you Imagine if he was loud and obnoxious Can't imagine

Alright we now go live to Elliot Friedman When do you get a load of this I'm in a sort of wild What a hot mess Watch the Capitals there's some shit going on I would love for him to be like I'd love for him to be that 80's Radio personality that just makes broad sweeping

Statements too Elliot Friedman coming at you Yeah almost And then he has a segment called you've been freeged Or freeged out Something like that Oh, no, when someone's been freezed out. Him with the refrigerator?

No, yeah, you put them in the refrigerator, damn it! I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, great minds think alike. Your mind thinks faster. I'm sorry. You guys stepped all over each other to get to that joke. I'm sorry. I will get there.

Sorry about that, man. All right, so unusual names circulating in trade circles over the past few days. Minnesota's Nino Nita Rider. El Nino. El Nino. Nino Nita Rider. I'm just laughing at your Nino Nita Rider. Nino Nita Rider.

You know, if I went Niener, Niener, Niener, you'd know exactly who I was talking about. Oh, yes. Tell me. You would know. He's available? You would be like, yeah, Minnesota's Nino Niederreiter. Who, by the way, I always used to take in NHL 2011 because he had a really high projection. He was supposed to be the next big thing.

He was supposed to be the guy who's not going first, but in many years could. What was his draft year? I want to say it was the Tavares year. Yeah. Same with Tuomo Routu. Oh! Everybody thought Tuomo Routu was going to be huge. Great player to pick up in the NHL games.

Great player. Sean Avery, too. He's not old. Drafted in 2010. And he had 25 goals this year. Oh, that weird little 2010 draft. Yeah. He went fifth overall.

Not bad. Not bad. So here's the deal. It sounds like teams are looking at their cap situation, and the Wilds cap situation is a bit tough, and obviously the expansion situation is tough, too. Even as far as I think three months ago When Sportsnet put out

Their projection For the Vegas team At that point It included guys Like Tyler Johnson Which is no longer That was five months ago Five months ago

Tyler Johnson would no longer Be eligible I believe Because Valtteri Filippo Is gone I'm not totally sure Well Tampa's got some decisions To make

Another interesting thing From that video Is the Leafs Have three guys From that video Was it Eric Ferrer Eric Ferrer Seth Griffith

And Martin Marincin So So, what's interesting here is that Jonas Brodine was the guy that they thought would be selected. However, Nino Niederreiter would be a pretty good selection as well. Now, they need to re-sign Michael Granlund. And apparently, this is according to Elliott Friedman, it may not be their first choice, but if you make it worth their while, it's possible. And that's a GM in the league said that to Elliott Friedman.

And according to Stephen Birch, who was tweeting about it today, he said, Nino Nino Ryder's Possession impacts Are comparable to The likes of Brad Marchand LA Kings Justin Williams

And a younger Marion Hovso Jesus But he doesn't get A lot of points Well he got 25 goals This year So that's pretty good

You know it's a career high But you know He's got as many 25 goal seasons As Nino Nino He does Correct Bobby Cappuccino

Pointed out That if you're looking For a replacement For JVR That would be a good one Who's this Nino Niederreiter. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

How do you get him, though? I mean, you lose a winger who can score a lot and has a very entertaining name in return. But why would that? Hold on, hold on. Which should be a big factor when selecting players. It should be the biggest factor, Jesse. Why would the Wild do that, though?

Oh, I'm not saying one for one. I'm just saying if you need to trade JVR, wouldn't it be wonderful if you could bring a Nino Niederreiter? Yeah, just what's the price? Because it'd be a high price. Now I just laugh every time I say his name. Matt Dumba's name also mentioned in trade talks. Oh, okay.

That's interesting. The other thing, this is point six. Incredibly, Barry Trotz's future isn't secure. Incredibly. There's a little bit of editorial there, Frej. No, and then there's a text from a GM. Yes, and I'm going to get to this. Okay, so the GM-

How did you guys both have time to read this, and I didn't even know it was out? I just saw it on the streetcar for four minutes. You know what? Fair. Jesse, you know what it is? We live downtown. Yeah.

We got time. What were you doing? We're not driving. What were you doing? Oh, that's right. You were driving. Oh, man. How long was your drive?

Too much. How many bumpers did you see? Being in the car. First of all, I had to drive like Jason Statham to make it to Breakfast Television on time today. It's not easy because the studio is in the middle of the city. So all the arteries pile in. You're like, I'm doing great.

And then it's like 25 minutes from the main arteries to the middle of the city. There's a lot of things that aren't what you would call legal, but I made it there on time. So you drove like a normal person in Toronto? Yes, out of necessity. Yeah, that's how we all drive, man. It's all good. I was going to say something, I don't remember what it was. I'm telling you, we were perfectly down here.

You would fit right in. Oh, I remember. I was sitting there, like, not moving and just going, how much debt do I want to be in? Like, how much debt is okay? Like, you really start to think, like, I'm just going to just screw it. I don't need to go on a trip ever again for the rest of my life. That's not even That's not even

Where you would be in Financially That's not even close I know I don't know I could put you In a nice good condo With a great walking space

For Iggy I know exactly Where you should live Down by my old place Anyway We'll talk later Barry Trotz's future I don't think we will

Isn't secure Surest predictor Of future behavior Is past behavior And this is where It gets interesting Trotz said All the right things

About Ovechkin Accepting a move To the third line But check Washington's history Dale Hunter didn't return After demoting Ovechkin In 2012 Adam Oates' face pushed back when he moved the captain into unfamiliar positions.

And a harsh team meeting in the late 2013-2014 season, where, in brackets, Ovechkin was ripped by several teammates, caused significant problems before a coaching change occurred. Now, Washington played two fantastic games after Trotz's juggling. So, what do you think the future of Barry Trotz is? Because I think after a President's Trophy and a seventh game in the second round, back-to-back. You're safe That's a joke You're crazy Bruce Boudreaux got fired

For the same thing And I'm not even talking about From the Caps Al Anvino Same thing I don't know if it was President's Trophy is a kiss of death You're not winning shit

Someone on our Reddit page Wrote an interesting question They said Should we With the new playoff format Should we rethink What losing in the second round means Because you're facing the top team

It's like You're in the conference final As I said last show I don't think Washington choked I think they got bested But I don't think they choked This is why I like Really not learning anything

From Lou Lamorello or Brendan Shanahan Shanahan, like you're lucky If you get a fist pump when the Leafs score a big goal He's just so stoic It's so easy to When you're involved in it To act irrationally I'm not trying to say this big-headedly

Or condescendingly But I genuinely think There are better takes on what to do with certain teams in the media than there are within the actual National Hockey League. You think the Capitals are thinking clearly right now? No. Hell no. Who's their GM again?

I keep wanting to say McPhee. I know it's not McPhee. McClellan? No. No, not Todd. Hold on. Something McClellan. Brian McClellan.

Yeah, it's Brian McClellan, isn't it? I think so. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Whoever's in charge. Ted Leonsis is the GM currently. Brian McClellan. Ryan McClellan.

Ryan McClellan. I got it. Oh, my God. No, you make a great point. Forget him. It's Ted Leonsis. He cares about that. You think their billionaire owner or whatever amount of money he has owner.

Personal friend of Ovechkin, by the way. Personal friend of Ovechkin who screamed at a Penguins fan from his box during the playoff series. Oh, you didn't see that? I missed that one. Oh, he's giving them the Harold Ballard business. You think that guy Who's got a Ungodly amount of money invested

In all of this And who's disappointed and angry You think he is thinking rationally right now You think he is going to make the best decisions For the Washington Capitals Who he owns Freeman actually made that point By using Masai Ujiri as an example

In 30 Thoughts When Masai took the podium he said I'm not holding this press conference right now I don't have answers to these questions We just lost We just got swept by Cleveland We're not thinking clearly We're not thinking clearly

Which Cathal Kelly Everybody's favorite Everybody's favorite writer in Toronto Who has all the hottest of terrible takes And here's the thing with him Is that when he has hot takes People tend to ignore them Honestly

I see him pop up in my feed Like once every four or five months He's the one who said The Women's World Cup Shouldn't have been held in Edmonton Because it's not a good enough city in Canada And so he's known for stuff Saying stuff like that

He said Ujiri's press conference the fact that he didn't want to make any bold statements because talking right now, as he said, was BS means that he needs to go. That's the right thing to do. Oh, God.

Shut the fuck up. Oh, God. That's why I brought it up because it's hilarious. Actually, that does bring me to something I meant to bring up, but I forgot. Human thinks rationally. Fire him. Yeah, piece of shit. Ryan Johansson.

He's right in the heat of the moment. These guys are still covered in sweat. Some of them are still breathing heavily from the game that they just played. And then you're shoving a mic in their face and going, hey, that guy was being an asshole to you all game? Sticking you in the balls? How do you feel about that guy? Fuck him! How does his family cheer for him, fucking

asshole? Of course Ryan Johansson's gonna say that. I... I wanted to... I think it was Daryl Boyce who I was speaking to. It was someone on the Marlies back when they used to give me my cute little press credential for the Marlies.

you mean the Marlies who don't let press into the dressing room that's right back in the day no wonder they still don't but people are still

discovering that who've been here for 25 years anyway keep going anyway so I was in there did someone discover that after the show

we'll tell you and tweeted about it last playoffs because the Leafs were out but the Marlies were in I remember last playoffs did it happen again oh it was Damien Cox

did it happen again no it didn't happen that's what I thought I thought I knew but yeah that'd be amazing if this year someone went, what?

It is round two. What do you mean I can't speak to the assistant general manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs at intermission? Which I'm not going to lie is sort of what we did last year. What?

What? Anyway, anyway, go ahead. What is that noise? What? That should be... That should be somebody's ringtone. That'd be, I'm just going to say a text ringtone.

Okay, here, wait. Quiet, quiet, quiet, quiet. What? There you go. It's all yours now. There it is. We should do a ringtone thing Where we have certain things from the show

We should get an app Yeah, that's a good idea Any app developers out there? All the podcasts load on the app And then the Reddit page is there too Should we do like a Bob Cole soundboard? And then we should have it on the page Didn't he have like a

Whoa Yeah, oh yeah I got it right on my phone No, no, no, it's okay You don't have to look Era Yeah, oh yeah, for sure For sure

Facts So, no, anyway I think it was Daryl Boyce What's the matter with you? That would have to go All those things Daryl Boyce was basically like something along the lines of the idea of talking to players post-game is crazy. None of them want to do it.

And, you know, half of them are still sucking wind. And they're just going to say something either mind-numbingly boring because they've completely shut their brain off or something completely irrational. I think the whole post-game thing is based on an old model, right? Because now we get everything on demand. And obviously we do want to hear from the players and the coaches and stuff after the game. However, you know, the reason that they started this is because, and it had to be right after the game, was because the guys in the newspapers had to get their stories in for the next printing the next day. And then obviously you've got sports networks who need those quotes for the next morning.

But I wonder if that's going to change a little bit. Because everything's changing right now I wonder if that sort of strategy will change Because you might get better answers later on I don't know There's a timeliness to it that's important I think my videos Nine times out of ten are better the next morning

There's more information You've slept I slept Yeah I got more energy This is kind of an aside But you know what's crazy It's still in newspapers They can't print some of the last games

That happened on the west coast Like if you go I didn't know that name X newspaper you look at the box scores from the previous night you won't see some of the West Coast games because they had to send it to the printer I have to be honest with you I'm still 17 I'm trying to figure out and this is what you need

to print complete aside in a major city like ours I understand in a smaller city like small small towns and stuff they need their they need your you need your local news but when you got like three national newspapers here do you really need to print them anymore like at all at all

I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. Like, I really don't... I don't know... What income are you missing out on? I don't know... I don't know how people consume a newspaper. Like, it's foreign to me now.

I think there are still people that do. There must be a financial reason for it, to keep doing it. Because if you're losing money at this point... Totally, totally. Because the overhead is so expensive to print newspapers. If you're making money off it, fine, keep doing it. But the second you stop making money, just go to online. I mean, that's kind of where they're going

Yeah, anyway, just a thought Another big thing to come Out of Edmonton Leon! Oh, Leon Drysaddle I thought you said Leo, I'm like Komarov's guy? Leon is up Is he?

Now, Leon Drysaddle's up And here's the thing, Mike LeWitt, former goalie, I believe Isn't it LeWitt? LeWitt, whatever his name is I remember having his hockey card, that's all I can remember I think so It represents Vladimir Tarasenko. If you remember, Vladimir Tarasenko signed an eight-year, $60 million contract out of his entry-level deal.

Now, you wonder—now, this is according to L.A. You wonder if Liut goes for the same thing with Dreisaitl. Now, to be fair, Tarasenko had a way better first three years. However, Dreisaitl's third year of his entry-level deal is better than Tarasenko's. It's an interesting negotiation. It's all going to come down to negotiation I mean, jeez, look what I mean, I criticize him for trading him

It was mind-numbingly stupid But the contract that Shirelli signed Tyler Sagan to Sweetheart Beautiful Great deal JVR Oh, it is still one of the better contracts in the league Boy

And again, you're in it Peter Shirelli's in it And he just saw Leon be arguably his team's best player, even ahead of McDavid and Cam Talbot. What I'm saying is that Connor McDavid isn't actually that good. That's what Jesse's saying. Oh, that's what I'm saying, certainly. He should not be on the Olympic roster. Whoa!

Let's be real here. I would take Claude Giroux over Connor McDavid. Whenever you do that, I imagine Steve, for everybody listening, Steve waves his hands in the air and throws his head back. It's like Kermit when he freaks out. That's what it reminds me of. Sorry. Yeah, for one game, but he had a great series, right? If you sign him to a six-year contract now, does it look something like what the Leafs did with Morgan Rielly and Nazem Khadri?

Different situations, but you can get him at $6 million and then move Jordan Eberle. You do that. You just offer him the contract He gave to Jordan Eberle But a big It's gonna be It's gonna be real difficult for the Oilers Especially because they got McDavid to pay too

And they gotta move Ryan Nugent Tompkins And or Jordan Eberle So do you go big money Like right away Or do you try to go bridge With one of these guys Try to get him on a cheap, short deal with promises of big money later

because you think you have this unique window. I do not envy Peter Chiarelli, except for the fact he has Conor McDavid and Leon Dreisand. Friedman also mentioned that because of Tarasenko needing more help in St. Louis, there might be a fit there for Jordan Eberle. Tarasenko needs scoring help. That's $6 million. And there's a trade history there with Yakubov.

Maybe they retain. I don't know. I don't know. Thoughts? Maybe, maybe. Kovalchuk to the Islanders. Of course! No way.

Point number 15, he said, also wondering if the Islanders will make a hard push for Ilya Kovalchuk. It makes sense for them, although they'd have to convince him they're going for it. Kovalchuk apparently has serious interest in the Rangers. Friedman's not sure of their interest, but he said they could pull it off if they wanted to. Sounds like Florida has also inquired.

But if Kovalchuk was interested in the New York area, why not the Islanders? Islanders will probably, and this is just adding on because it was mentioned later on that Calvin DeHaan will probably get lost, might get lost in the expansion draft. Calvin DeHaan, Detroit's already interested in Calvin DeHaan, but would New Jersey not take a Calvin DeHaan for an Ilya Kovalchuk? My God, that'd be great for them. Youngish player, youngish, kind of entering his prime actually,

player that helps you now in exchange for Kovalchuk, And you get the first overall pick That's a good little offseason Right there And Taylor Hall last year Those two little things And Taylor Hall Yeah

Yeah And you still have Corey Schneider Who's gonna have a better season Than the one he had Taylor Hall's probably Hopefully Not gonna miss a month or two And Kovalchuk and Tavares

No I was talking about New Jersey Oh no I know But the other way Oh and In the Metro You gotta think it's a little bit More expensive too because it's within the Metro.

You're giving a divisional rival a monster. A scary goal scorer. Yeah, you know what you're handing them. Tavares, that might be the thing, though. That would be like, okay, well... Tavares, Kovalchuk, Jesus. Like, how scary would that be? Jesus, I think you split them up.

Really? Yeah. So you have Josh Bailey with Ilya Kovalchuk? Because that's their second-line guy. I'm not sure. All I know is you have... Like, there are certain players, It doesn't matter if you line match

They're coming at you It doesn't matter who you put on Sidney Crosby You lose that matchup You just try to Contain Unless it's an awesome catcher Who contained Connor McDavid Contained him in a shipping container

And sent him across the world Sorry He was loaded on at Halifax Harbor And he was sent away Broken man on a Halifax pier But then you have two just unbelievable lines Like, you hopefully contain the Tavares line And then let Kovalchuk run wild

Or you hopefully contain the Kovalchuk line And then Tavares runs wild With no offense to Josh Bailey Who is very clearly a second line center in the NHL I'm putting Kovalchuk with Tavares to start I'm doing that Hey, that's a wee situation You can't get Kovalchuk and put him with Josh Bailey

You've got to put him with Tavares to start. That's a fantasy camp situation. Just wee, you do whatever you want. It's fun. It's like the Preds, that ridiculous line. What the hell? Forsberg, Johansson, and Arvidson? Wee!

That's ridiculous. I think the Preds might be better off if they spread that out a little bit. I don't know. Sometimes, though, when you do that, you get rid of a strength to address a weakness. That's possible, too. So you've got to sometimes play to your strengths as well. The Leafs can do that because Nylander, Marner, and Matthews are all different players, right? I think so, yeah.

And then you've got Kadri and Komarov, who have a different role as well. Now, let's talk about... I just had a thought over the weekend. Oh, don't do that. I just had a thought, and I messaged you two with it, but I told you not to answer, as we often do as friends, because we've got to bring it up on the show. Okay. I don't remember. Marc-Andre Fleury has a no-move clause, does he not? Yeah.

What if He's already in the conference finals And if it ends here It ends here It's still This still is relevant But let's say They go to the Stanley Cup finals

They don't have to win They go to the Stanley Cup finals And Matt Murray Hasn't played a game You're Marc-Andre Fleury You won a cup with him In 2009 You won it last year

Being a good soldier And also being a Pretty damn good goaltender Throughout the regular season Right? It was only because of injury That Matt Murray took over Was it not?

Yeah and then they didn't Go back to Fleury When he was healthy Right So both times Fleury started the first two games I believe And then he got injured and then Matt Murray took over the rest of it So you could argue as

Marc-Andre Fleury that you have Given you gave them that Spot that seed in the playoffs And yes Matt Murray took them the rest of the way It's a team game but then this year Matt Murray goes down And you're the one taking them You potentially give them a second

A back to back cup which is just Looking more and more impossible by the day Yeah but you have at very least taking them back to the conference finals, limping there, but they're there. I mean, this Ottawa-Wilkes-Barre series is amazing. It's really, truly. But what if

Marc-Andre Fleury goes, you know what? Fuck you. I earned this contract. I'm not lifting my no move. I'm not moving. And he's allowed. He can do that. Pittsburgh's in a good spot. I think. We keep looking at it from the standpoint of they're going to lose a guy.

Odds are they're not going to allow themselves to, like okay Matt Murray's not going to Vegas he's not no, they'd have to trade, they'd figure out a trade it'll be a trade, so if Pittsburgh loses one of their two goalies, which is

looking imminent, like I'm not even sure how they avoid it, they're going to get assets for them, they're not just going to be idiots and just let him get claimed it's Jim Rutherford so it's unfortunate You have to lose one of them, unless he pulls some crazy rabbit out of his hat. It's super unfortunate.

But you're going to get something for him. And Pittsburgh, I mean, geez, they could use a little bit of depth. Not because they're lacking, but just because, well, they know guaranteed every season everyone's going to get hurt. I wonder with a guy like Matt Murray. And I wonder, too, first off, I wonder if Marc-Andre Fleury, if he doesn't lift that no trade, if that generates some bad blood with the teammates because, you know. And the fan base. And the fan base.

But he's still the guy that's saving their butts every night It's funny, I think if you were to suggest this to Pittsburgh Penguins fans They'd be like, oh my god, he's giving the city everything And he could potentially get a third cup with the team Be the starting goalie for it No, we love him no matter what Wait until he costs you Matt Murray Then tell me how much you love him

Right, right So then with Matt Murray I wonder if Pittsburgh doesn't do a Because they're right up against the cap too If you flip a Matt Murray for a young guy so Jonathan drew in two years ago or you know what I mean Matt Murray is a hot young goaltender

he's going to be great in this league for a long long time if you have to trade him if Marc-Andre Fleury says absolutely unequivocally no I have earned this contract and he's well within his rights to do that go to Calgary and say you get Matt Murray for a blank check of picks we get all your 2017 picks

we get them all I would be calling Calgary they're ours now yeah why not you know who else I'd call? Arizona interesting because they just loaded up on young talent matt murray would fit that window awfully

nice murray's cheap and but you're gonna have to extend yeah like i mean i i mean imagine that they would need their first round pick this year but that's the valuable pick because i think arizona is going to get better i don't think they're going to be drafting this high forever you get max domey back anthony duclair has a better season and i mean what do they got a first rounder for Datsuk. Yeah. And for Hansel. That's free.

And Hansel, too. Oh! Hansel's so hot right now. I think you might have found something. You might have found a very interesting option there, my friend. And then you get to expose Mike Smith. Hooray. Yeah.

Mike, you want to go to another desert? Does he have a no move? I don't know. I don't know. Good question. Jesse, can we look that up? He has a no trade clause. Ah, so he can move.

Yeah, right. It's an NTC. Do we want to talk about Jim Benning's comments on a Vancouver radio station on Thursday or do we move on? It's a little old. It's a little old. I don't know. Look it up. It's Jim Benning being Jim Benning.

I'll read you the quote. You can roll your eyes and then we'll move on. Go ahead, look at the quote and then move on. Yeah. Throw it out there. I tell our guys, meaning his scouts and his assistants, we want European skill with North American heart. We're looking for skilled players and defensemen who move pucks. The key being the first part

And a lot of people were harping on me Well have you listened to it You gotta listen for the context And I went okay that's fair And I went and listened to it and I'm like It's just what he said There is no context The context is so I have this anecdote

So I have this thing I tell people And it's literally this I have this thing I tell people And it's literally the quote you read Can you imagine being the best player On a team for 15 years and your boss

your boss who has been your boss for the last two, who hasn't done a bang up job says, based on where you were born players of your ilk aren't known for their heart simply

because you were born on a certain part of earth I have a question, tell me about character and heart You leave a country that you've grown up in your whole life. No. You learn a brand new language. No.

You come and get drafted. You're surrounded by strangers at 18 years old. Or maybe you came and played in the OHL. You're 16. Yeah, 16. You're billeted with a family that you don't even speak their language, and all of a sudden you're in Sudbury. Sorry.

You're in Sault Ste. Marie. You're in Brandon, Manitoba. You're in Flin Flon, Manitoba. Home of Bobby Clark. How would you like to join the Swift Current Broncos? And somehow, that does not mean character and heart. You come in, you learn a new language, you make the top league in the world, and you don't have character and heart after all of that?

I think we've got to move. It's like nobody watched Borya Salming play. Borya Salming, to me, is the perfect example because Borya Salming was the Swede who was all of those things in the 70s. We've seen this for 45 years Leo Komarov is probably the most tenacious Guy in the league But I don't understand where the Swede thing comes from

Or the Russian thing Borya Salman was the first guy The very first guy out of the gate Was a bloody warrior I think well yeah That's one guy though And I didn't watch enough 80s hockey to know I think what probably happened

And this is just a guess Is a lot of Swedes, not all of them But a lot of Swedes came over to the NHL And they're used to playing in their leagues And they come to the NHL where you're allowed to do Whatever the fuck you want Where Mike Milbury goes into the stands And beats somebody with their own shoes

You're just allowed to beat up your opponent, step on his head Slash him in the face, call his mom all kinds of nasty names You're just allowed to do whatever you want And it wasn't everyone's cup of tea And here's the most concerning part If you're a Canucks fan Let's pretend it was benign and he didn't actually mean anything by it.

Okay, let's just pretend. Let's just pretend. I know, I know, but let's just pretend. Just to get past it. Listening. That is like a 35-year-old piece of information he is basing the Vancouver Canucks' future on. Like, beyond the fact, beyond the fact,

he is, you know, being xenophobic and all that shit. It's just stupid. That's my point. That's a stupid way of thinking. I'm not worried about xenophobia as much. You know what? Okay, stupid is, it's just an insulting word. Simple.

It's very simple. We want a player who plays like this. Like Mitch Marner, I would say plays... Like a Swede. I would say he plays European. If that's the way we're defining European. Austin Matthews! You mean he skates well and can deke the pants off you but doesn't throw hits?

I mean, you know what? Mitch Marner is tenacious, though, and he will throw a hit every now and then, and he will go in the corner. I would say Austin Matthews plays like a bit of a European player. He went to Switzerland, and that was wrong. He shouldn't do that. Thanks, Don Cherry. Soshnikov?

I just learned that Nikita Soshnikov is from Saskatoon. I had no idea. Should be Saskatoon. S-O-S-K-O-F. Sask-O-F. We'll work on it. Yeah, we'll work on it. Yeah, beyond the fact that it was an inappropriate thing to say,

It's just more evidence that, oh, the Canucks' future is not in good hands at all. I just, yeah, even though they made some good moves at the trade deadline with Burroughs, I think they did okay. But I just don't understand how someone leaving their country, flying halfway around the world in their mid to late teens, learning a completely new language and still managing to make it with all the hormones, with all the emotions, with everything that goes into being a teenager,

makes it to the world, like the world's biggest stage. Sorry man, you don't have character and heart Because you were born in Sweden, or Finland, or elsewhere That's crazy That's just crazy It's like we discussed in the show before A lot of people who are in positions Where they get to make decisions

And give their opinions, etc, etc They grew up They were like our age currently Yeah, during the Cold War So, like, not everything's Going to be exactly up to date You know, not everything is going to be... Hold the phones there.

Don't you think, though, if you watch 82 games of your hockey team, that it should be? Like, I watched about 70 Leafs games this year. There's about 12 I missed. I know that. And I've known that for years. I'm a fan. Adam, don't you think the President of the United States should know not to put every thought that pops into his head on Twitter? I'm glad we didn't talk about Jim Benning.

Alright, fine. Okay, well, you know what? I want to ask you a question, guys. A couple things we got to get through towards the end of the show here before we get to the press conference. First thing is, do you remember that big day in your life? That pivotal moment in your life? No. There was a pivotal moment in your life.

Did you know that? I want to know that. There was a moment in your life where you made a decision. You made a very, very important decision and it led you to where you are right now. Actually, yeah. You remember that moment? I do. Jesse, do you remember that moment?

No. You don't remember that moment? I don't know what you're referring to. Do you remember the moment that you decided to give up avocado toast and become a millionaire? No, no, no. Move on. Move on. The reason these articles keep being written is because everyone reacts to them being like,

Oh my God, can you believe what they wrote about millennials? And then they keep getting written because they keep getting clicks. We'll stop. Move on. Done. You know what would be... No, no, no, no, wait. I'm contributing to what you're saying.

Okay. You know what would be the most read article of all time? All you need is a title You wouldn't even have to put a body Everyone's going to click it anyway What millennials don't understand about analytics Most read Most read article of all time

Website would crash What's the website or outlet That's putting that out All of them Front page of New York Times Front page of New York Times And then someone writes a think piece based on it It's got all the screenshots

Or links to it And the BuzzFeed writes a little score on it. What's the next thing you got? Then it gets on Kiss, and then it gets on this podcast. Fuck that. And then we all die unhappy. That's the cycle. We all die unhappy with our avocado toast.

I just, listen, I want to know how you guys became millionaires by not eating avocado and bread. No, I do have a hot take. A hot, fresh, organic take. About this. No! Avocado toast isn't even good. Boom. There, I said it.

It's not that good. It's two bland flavors mixed in one. Get out of here. I'm indifferent Also Okay so here's the real question The real question is this I did that to distract

Because I knew you guys The real question is this Did Jesse Blake Sabotage Our WHL I've seen this I Have also seen this

And want to hear more Well I don't remember hearing the name Connor Selesky Come up Now do you know how Connor is spelled I need to know how

Connor is spelled C-O-H-N-E-R C-O See, I didn't... What about Sakeela Swan? How do you spell Sakeela? Went in the sixth round, 114th overall

to the Tri-City Americans. Sakeela, no, Sakeela, Sakeela, excuse me, is it... Sakeenwa. No, yes! It was also the name of a very big Toyota truck. Sakeela... Sakeenwa. S-E-Q-U-O-I-A and then Swan.

What about also you know what what's okay? What's more obnoxious that name that may or may not belong to a culture that I'm unaware of or just fucking up Connor That's the one that I'm like the fucking up Connor Co h n er that's not how you spell It goes back to the jerseys. You're just being difficult. You're just being difficult I would out of principle call that child Connor forever. It's not it's not Connor I know what you're telling me to call you It's not your name

Maybe it's not Connor It's not how you spell Connor There's two acceptable ways to spell Connor C-O-N-N-O-R C-O-N-N-E-R Even if you dropped one N I'd be like okay You're kind of being

Yeah yeah I've seen that I've seen that I might give you Isn't Conor McGregor one N? I'll give you a pass I think he's two I might poke you in the ribs every now and then And go okay there Conor

But I will accept that it's Connor Fuck that I just think it's hilarious Now, are we going to have Koner on the show? I hope so. I want Jake and Smallwood to introduce Koner. This one, this name, we won't spend long. This is the piece de resistance.

Piece de resistance. Better than Koner. Better than Koner. Better than the person who might be a cultural thing, but it's the same name as a Toyota truck. Piece de resistance drafted by the Seattle Thunderbirds. Caprice, by the way, also named after a bad Chevy, and she hates it.

Every time I see one, I'm like, ah, it's a Caprice. And they are, well she wasn't named after it But they are ugly Ugliest in those things Okay fine True Crow His first name is True? T-R-U-E and then Crow like Russell Crow

What's up True? True Crow True Crow That's like a Canadian Like produced Television show That wins a bunch of Gemini's and gets cancelled after about 4 seasons Four if it made it to four

That would be a freaking Canadian classic True Crow comes on right after Arrow Fair enough I think Arrow In the season finale has to fight True Crow I think it's a good name It's a good name Anyway there's a few more none of them are as good

But I wanted to bring those three names forward And also present that maybe Jesse Sabotaged the WHL I genuinely didn't have those names I'm sorry Guys are you looking for a job I would love one. Okay.

I would love one. My avocado toast habit is just ruining my life, and I need another job. Since I don't eat avocado toast, I was a little bit upset because I'm like, I'm not a millionaire yet. When does that happen? It's bullshit. If you would like to work in college athletics for Duke University, you've got a very interesting job posting. Would you like to be a Dukie? Duke University's looking for an athletic facilities, game operations, and championships

assistant. It's a full-time position covering a period of 11 months, and Duke prefers that applicants have four-year degrees. Makes sense. It's a university, right? Of course they want somebody who's university educated. Duke prefers that applicants be in crippling debt. The position calls, and this is, remember all of these things, right?

Because there's a lot to this position. How do people afford college in the States? Oh my God, it's crazy. How the fuck do you do that? Like, I think it was, was it $48,000 a year for Vanderbilt? How? That's before, that's before anything else. That's just the tuition.

Not books, not staying on campus, not eating. That's unbelievable. $48,000. That's unbelievable. The position calls for someone to manage the athletics facilities. Okay. So managing the facilities. The buildings.

Yeah. You would assist in planning events. So we're talking graduation. We're talking if, you know, local rapper comes through and has a concert with 150 people. That's hard. And other operations. and provide strategies that will improve the overall performance of that department. So, if you, let's say you come up with a better system for managing the way that game ops happen.

That sounds an awful lot like we get to email you whenever the fuck we want. Yeah. You have to respond to us immediately. For their 11... Cottage weekend? Fuck that. Sorry. Well, it's 11 months.

So, you are working every day for 11 months. I'm kidding. I don't know that for sure. But we give you a full month off. They do. Actually a full lifetime off after it's done. The best part about this is the lucky winner of this position makes exactly zero dollars. Like all the athletes.

I think Duke is just being consistent. I don't see what your problem is. Zero dollars. This is not an internship. You make the same salary as a basketball player? As a football player? Does Duke have a hockey team? A hockey player?

imagine having the balls to write that the balls these things in all caps it says the position is unpaid hey at least they put it in all caps well duke i hope you're it's legal it's legal but it's not an interest i'm for your volunteering it's a goddamn job that's a wait you're not even a student you're a graduate that's what i mean what graduate can fuck off not everyone is will smith So you've gone through four years That's my thing I'm into internships I think they're valuable and important

But you've got to have a time limit on them And there has to be some sort of benefit for the student as well It's not, hey, run me coffee for six months You've got to teach people things You've got to invest in them And that's what we do at KISS It's really important And they can only stay so long

And it's for course credit That makes sense This, I'm like, okay So for 11 months, you're not going to be able to have another job It should say rich people only Basically Basically Or folks interested in like

Not eating ever Do you like ramen noodles That should be at the top of the application You ever eaten a ketchup sandwich Oh Delicious Ketchup sandwich you fancy bastard Only on weekends

Not Heinz ketchup Not Heinz ketchup No my goodness Name brand You find a tomato in a dumpster And you punch it And that's your ketchup That's what you can afford

That's what you can afford Like I've done some thinking About what you told me From Charlemagne's book where he's like, well, there's X amount of hours in a week and I work full-time and then I also did this job and I'm like, you know what? He worked very hard.

He deserves to be where he's at and that's all very inspirational. However, what the fuck is that? What is that? I think you've got to recognize an area where you're being taken advantage of. There's internships and then there's being taken advantage of. And after a four-year degree, four-year degree,

especially if you're at Duke, I bet they give you preferential treatment to obviously they would want to get their own grad. Duke's not a cheap school. Yeah, that's an unfair application for a student to apply for, but you could justify it to me, even though I still think it's bullshit. You could justify it to me as, well, this student will get this, that. They won't have to pay for this.

We'll give them a credit or two. To ask a graduate to do that? Fuck's your problem. How much revenue does Duke University generate? I was hoping you'd bring this in. In 2016. The university itself? The entire university.

Oh, God. It's got to be... Five million to the guy who knows nothing. I'm going to say quarter of a billion. Quarter of a billion. $250 million. Revenue or profit? Revenue.

Revenue. How much revenue? It might be higher than that. In 2016. It might be higher than that. Revenue. I'm going to say $30 million because I have no idea. $30 million?

I have no idea what universities make. Dude. $30 million? $300 million. $300 million is good. Go with that. What's your guess? I said quarter of a billion, I'll stick to that

They, in revenue, they generated 2.6 billion dollars They're the New England Patriots That's what the Patriots Holy shit Also, let me throw this at you The Duke athletic budget Currently, you ready for this?

Without paying players Is 91 million dollars What is a shitty salary in the states? Like, like Livable but shitty Like 25 grand? 25, 30 grand? Because I know it's about...

It's about that here. You can't offer the person doing all that shit, even a shitty... What's 30 grand when you have $91 million in your budget? You can't find one extra sponsor for a billboard in some arena somewhere that would pay for that? Do you know how much they already spend on salary and wages overall for the entire university? No, how much? $1.2 billion. They already spend that on staff and coaches and everybody.

So they couldn't just add a couple... So they're making a billion. 1.2 billion. And then there's facilities. They've got to maintain facilities, which would cost you maybe $500 million. Still, you're making $500 million profit. How does Duke spend that much on stuff? How many people work at Duke?

It's a huge university. It's huge. And also, you've got to think, like, coaches, basketball, football, those are $3 or $4 million positions. That's another thing. Like, in the states, these big schools, like, they just take up a city. Yeah. Guelph University, here it is, in Guelph. In most states, the highest paid person is the head coach of the university.

If you go to Arkansas, if you go to Alabama, because they're civil servants, right? So you get all their income. And usually, consistently, the highest paid person on that list is a coach at a university. Why do universities pay coaches so much? Because they don't have to pay the players. Oh. Coaches are valuable. Oh.

Oh, but you need a really good coach because you want to make it far in athletics because athletics make you a fuck ton of money. Yes. All right. Well, that's just kind of interesting because, like, you don't pay your players. Or insure them beyond their time there. It's good times. You know, because they could have, maybe you're not good enough to make the NFL, but maybe you're good enough to play NCAA football, which is still pretty damn good.

And let's say you, in year two, sustain a life-altering knee injury and you're no longer able to play. Well, guess you better get good at math. What if they say you don't have to go to class because you're a football player? and then all of a sudden you can't play football and you haven't been to class in two years. What do you do? What do you do?

That's a great question. You need to ask yourself because it's your problem, punt. They don't give a shit. They don't give a shit. Literally bugs Bunny out the door, punt. They don't give a shit. Which consequently you can't do anymore because your knee's messed up.

Yeah. Come on. Right? Full circle. No, no, I'm doing the school, just picking him up by the scruff of the hair, like when they're throwing Sylvester outside after he eats Tweety again. Punt. Like Jazz and Fresh Prince.

Yeah! Yeah! So that's a thing that exists. That's what you should do when you graduate, just throw you out of the door. Life lesson, never, ever underestimate the gall of rich people. Yeah, really. There's a reason they're rich. It's like certain single people.

There's a reason they're single. Yeah. Now, I can't believe I signed this should-be $8 or $9 million free agent for $3 million. Everyone else around me is an idiot. At the end of October, I've made a tremendous error. Yep. I've made such a mistake. Oh, fuck.

I don't know if you've heard a little bit. I know we've touched a little bit on it, but the Atlanta Braves have a new ballpark this year. about 20 years after they got their old one which was perfectly fine and functioning and kind of a fan favorite and the thing is they moved the Braves out of Atlanta to a county called Cobb County so the Braves aren't even in Atlanta

they're in one of the surrounding counties but isn't the Atlanta surrounding area like giant and growing for some reason that's what everyone told me at the zoo when I worked there for some reason we got a lot of people from Atlanta and they were happy to tell me how big Atlanta was getting

I don't know why. I think people from Atlanta are proud. There's lots going on there. Except for the Thrashers. Except for the Thrashers. Go Jets. So the Braves have left Greater Atlanta. Or I guess they're in Greater Atlanta, but they've left the Metro.

And not knowing geography that well about Atlanta, correct me anywhere, feel free if I'm wrong here, but Cobb County's on the outside. Sounds like the Mississauga Braves. Cobb County is its own city. Its own city council. Cobb County coughed up $400 million. and was forced to raise taxes to pay for public parks because they were so severely indebted to this stadium.

And remember, this is owned by a billionaire who doesn't need to move the team because the original Atlanta stadium is only about 20 years old. Now, the deal brought the stadium to Cobb County, and it's interesting because it was a really poor deal. The burden of paying law enforcement outside the stadium normally falls to the teams, right? Normally, teams have to pay.

If you want crowd control at your event, you either pay the police department or don't have it. Well, it's like construction sites. Absolutely. They pay the police department? Off-duty work, right? Yeah. So they still need the police officers there.

The thing is, the Braves somehow worked it out that they don't have to pay it. It actually falls to the county to the tune of $900,000 a year. Cool. Now, that doesn't seem like much, but it's a 30-year contract that they've entered into. So this, they don't actually include... This is the old arena?

This is the new one. Or is it the old building? This is the new building that they don't have to pay for any law enforcement now. So it works out. Over the next three decades, that includes all wages. Remember that it's overtime hours, so it's time and a half. The entire life of this Baseball

This baseball stadium That will come out of the taxpayer dollars Whether people show up to the games Or not, and by the way they're not Because Braves aren't very good again this year But if your kid's sick, fuck them The estimated cost per game Is $11,000 to the county

Post season games and concerts Like Billy Joel last month Metallica in July Are extra and they cost the same it's like a surgery per event isn't that insane now i know that's not a 900 grand is not a make or break sum for a team however isn't that just gross like are you kidding me now it had to do a lot with the former administration of cobb county apparently they were very secretive about what this deal included but isn't it sad like if you live there and you're

perfectly happy in Cobb County and you're not a baseball fan. All of a sudden your taxes go up just because some guy some billionaire guy was like, yeah, I don't really feel like it. I know you guys want me so I don't really feel like it. Does that bug you?

Yeah, it does. Now what? Don't move to Cobb County. Which by the way, they're going to build housing all around. And then you just move to another town where some other rich fuck does it. Then what? then what? Like, that is what I want to leave people with.

Okay? It doesn't matter if it's the Braves doing it. Okay, someone did something to you. Now what? I just think if you make a decision like the one in Atlanta, you should have to go door-to-door and tell people fuck you. You get what you asked for, but you do have to go and tell people fuck you to their face.

Yeah. You might get clocked a couple times, and it is illegal to punch someone. But in this case, there should be a moratorium. But just think about it. You're 20 years old. You've lived in Cobb County your whole life. You buy a house.

And in Atlanta, you can actually... Houses are still affordable somewhat. That's great. Make a movie about it and go fuck yourself. No, but 20 years... You're 20 years old. You're going to raise your family and your kids there. You live there your whole life.

Your whole family's there. Your wife or husband's family's all there. Fuck you, fuck your wife, fuck your husband, fuck your kids. For the next 30 years. They don't care. Next 30 years, you're paying for that. Good. They don't care.

Have more kids. More taxpayers. Fuck you. Wow. Fuck you, go Braves. That's the New Year's scarf, go Nets. Fuck you, go Braves. You got a little sad there.

That's got a little, like, gutted. Well, no, because all these stories seem to be like they did a terrible thing. And nothing was done. The end. Every story, every real life story is the Grimm Brothers. There's no, oh, and then the fairy godmother came. It's no the real life Rumpelstiltskin Where he tells

The original Rumpelstiltskin where he tears himself apart There's no happy ending It's just fuck you story's done And now You pay this In Family Guy where they had like the German fairy tale It's like oh it might be like a German fairy tale Hans wouldn't stop sucking his thumbs

And his mother said he would lose his thumbs If he didn't stop sucking them And he didn't so she cut them off The end Yeah, but now Take Family Guy And that's real now That's just what happens now

So I guess, I don't know I feel bad, people listen to this show for an escape It is a bit silly that this is happening Jesse's like, we were having fun No, the reason I bring this up I just get so mad I'll tell you the reason I bring it up I like stories, Jesse

I like story progression And I'm like, where does the story go? And every time it's just Oh and the people getting fucked continue to be that way There's a reason I bring this up There's a reason I bring this up We are all intense sports fans All of us

My suggestion to you In every instance possible Is to fight this sort of thing happening Where you are You can fight it Things have been defeated I mean Detroit's a recent example of how it wasn't But I would suggest strongly

That you take heed of these stories So this doesn't keep happening That's why I bring it up. I think I would rather people look at it the way you're looking at it. I just, I don't know. I'm having, I'm tired. I've been up for a while. Well, let's do the press conference and have some damn fun then.

Let's do it. The Presser SDP. The Steve. I hate it. I'm glad you brought it up, but I hate it. Sometimes I gotta bring up stuff you guys don't like. Gotta bring it up. Love you.

Which brings us to a question about the Sens. No, I'm kidding. If you're a GM of the Vegas Golden Knights and you had to pick a player to build your team around based on their play in the playoffs this year, who do you pick? Tanner Glass. Sidney Crosby. No, like, is it a pickable player? No, anybody. Anybody.

Everyone keeps telling me that the Ducks are going to lose Jacob Silverberg. No way. I don't know, man. That would be the guy, because that's a thing that could happen. This is the problem that I think Vegas might run into is you look at all the players that are available to them now and you go, Vegas could draft a pretty good team. But so many of the players who are currently available who Vegas would be like, yummy and take, I think they're going to get dealt around. As if, like, Las Vegas is not going to get one of Fleury or Murray They're not Now, there are some teams that are a little boned

If you're the Caps, not a lot you can do to keep Philip Grubauer If you're the Rangers, not a lot you can do to keep Antti Ranta If you're the Avalanche, Calvin Pickard, you know, he might be going I don't know So my answer is Silverberg But my answer is also I gotta think the Ducks will Figure something out with him

Trade him for whatever And then it's another team's job To protect him Cool You know what's going to be awkward Not just the list of You find out you were left unprotected Like an awkward conversation you may or may not have to have

With Matt Martin What if a team makes a trade like that I don't know The Sharks Acquired Jacob Silverberg And they protect him And as a result

Someone from the Sharks this past year Goes ah ah ah And they're left exposed And then Vegas takes it It'll happen It'll happen once Who's it gonna be? And by the way

If you have hurt feelings Like if you're a player And you have hurt feelings about this Welcome to the business man I know I know Like I don't know When players say it's a business, it's just one of those things you say instead of fuck.

Okay, fair enough. You know? Fair enough. Jesse? Does the amount of dogs Mrs. Dangle retweets worry you at all, Steve? No. You sure? It's been ramped up lately.

Well, okay. Yesterday she posted a picture with three dogs. And that is the view from our backyard every single day. We don't need another dog. We have three on weekends, sometimes four. We have had, I think the record for dogs at our house is six. That's incredible. And every time my dog goes to Steve's house, it defecates on his carpet, which is good.

That is true. She's three for four. She's learning how to not do that. Like, we noticed that a little bit with carpet with her. She wasn't used to, we didn't have any carpet at my old place. Oh, is that what it is? Yeah, so she's now learned that carpet is not to be gone on. She did it at another person's place.

She hasn't done it at our house. Does she pee on any of your stuff? Nope. She stayed with Uncle Jesse this weekend. I wonder if it's a dog thing. Oh, Iggy, do you own this? Psst, bitch. Like, I don't know.

Is she punking Iggy? She might be punking him. I also don't have carpet, so it might be. Yeah, it might be. It might be that. Well, I mean, she's physically punked Iggy a bunch of times. It was just do-dee-do-dee-do, and then she goes, and he's just like,

because he doesn't know how to handle it. I've seen Iggy stick up for himself a grand total of one time, and I was so proud. I was just like, Atta boy. Yeah, the other dog owner was just like, hey, you got their dog in trouble? And I was just like, Iggy, bad.

And I'm like, good boy, good boy. Keep doing it. That was awesome. Jesse. Do that again. Final question. This is the most upvoted question of the week. Of the day, I should say.

If what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, will every Vegas player have a no trade clause? That is fantastic. Who wrote that? Childish Gingino. Different from Gambino? He did Gingino. I don't know. Ging?

I don't know what's ging G-I-N-G-I-N Ginge? Like ginger? Gingino? That's good, I like that I liked how we discussed that Like a bunch of uncles at a barbecue You know what I think it means

I would like to end on a fun note A fun note With a cat's meow And I want you to know that this is real Okay? This is a real thing, have a listen what this is jack that's fake voice is a little deeper than most cats that's fake we're gonna in two weeks we're gonna find out this was all a chipotle ad

Yeah, it was a secret marketing campaign to sell more Chipotle Jimmy Kimmel comes up from behind the cat and goes guess what? Say hi It was now I had it I initially thought this was fake too But apparently now this is not a very good publication to base it on but there are newspapers like the Daily Mail Male that are running with it That this is actually a vocal cord condition That this cat has And that this is a real thing

Viral cat video is fake Isn't that sick? Imagine your cat sounded like that Might make having a cat Be okay Might, I doubt it though You know what you should get? Two dogs I think you need four

See the thing is that you talk about the three dogs In the backyard Steve, I think a fourth Would really even it out Cool well that's why on weekends Their daughter or whatever Brings over Stan Sometimes there's Sometimes there are four dogs

In our neighbor's house and they come over to our backyard So there are five dogs In our backyard Iggy, Boston, Kramer, Stan and Mo Good names What's more likely Steve moves to Toronto Or Steve gets a second dog Oh Steve gets a second dog

What do you think do you think differently No no it's like 50-50 I think And by the way, Jesse, I think we had a moment, we sort of bypassed it today, but I think it's important that we highlight it between the two of us while Steve's on his phone. Steve did say on his way into breakfast television this morning to himself, how much debt do I want to be in? He's thinking about it. To me, that constitutes a crack in the wall, does it not?

Yeah, it does. There's a chick in the arm. No, every few months, I just go, I need to move, this is killing me, slowly. And then we don't. And then I calm down, and a few months goes by until my next breakdown. And eventually it's going to happen. No, I think I'll just die. You'll just die on the roughness?

I'll just die. Amazing. Well, that's it for the show today. That was an uplifting note. Uplifting. Well, follow the guys on Twitter at Steve underscore Dangle. At Adam W-Y-L-D-E. and at jesse blake the steve dangle podcast download the rest of the show at sportsnet.ca