The Steve Dangle Podcast - The Steve Dangle Podcast - May 2, 2017 - Crosby Gate

Episode Date: May 2, 2017

On this episode, the Pens Caps dumpster fire and everything around it, Leafs news, Oilers, clowning on Milbury, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde Yeah! Oh my god! Wow! Content! It's great content Hey, did you guys, by the way, see the ESPN NHL? Has this started?

Yeah, have we started? Are we doing a show? We're in. You should introduce the show. Oh, okay. Hi, I'm Adam. This is Steve and Jesse. We do a hockey podcast.

Sometimes not. Sometimes it goes off track, but that's okay. Radio today? I don't think so. Shit. Sorry, I just wanted to. So here's the deal. We're going to call this podcast the podcast we can't win.

So here's the deal. We're going to tell you what we think, and we don't fucking care. We're just going to let it go We're going to put it out there in the ether Caps fans will hate us Pens fans will hate us Cool I don't know what Adam thinks of the Crosby incident

I don't know what Jesse thinks of the Crosby incident They don't know what I think about the Crosby incident So this is going to be very interesting Do you know what I think of the Crosby situation? Do you want to know? What do you I want I think personally

What does Rob Rossi think? That it takes Yeah It takes a backseat How long was that? It takes a backseat to the Toronto Maple Leafs Before we got to Rob Rossi. Oh, no, we'll get there.

Guys. We just had a mention. Guys, guys. Three minutes in. I think it takes a backseat to the anniversary of what today is. That's right. It has been 50 years, 50 freaking years, since the Toronto Maple Leafs have won a Stanley Cup.

So I just want you to know, no matter how big the story in the NHL is, you will always find a way to take a backseat to the Toronto Maple Leafs. That's right. That's right. That's what matters. Original six. Never heard of it. Absolutely.

The original six, I think it was the Leafs, not the Penguins, not the Caps. So who cares? Who cares? Yeah, so 50 years today. Yeah, we know. They failed a bunch. That's cool. So I just thought it was worth mentioning, right?

Definitely worth mentioning. No, let's get to what's important. Rob Rossi. Okay. Yeah, I mean. I think, no, no. We should get to Mike Milbury. Who else with a bad opinion should we give a stage to?

bad opinions we have to address. I think everybody will be united on the Mike Milbury thing, so we're going to leave that till later. We're going to set you on fire first, and then we're going to put you out after. Does that make sense? Rather than being friends first and then enemies later, because then we just remain enemies, and that's not cool.

There are times where the gap between the Thursday podcast and the Tuesday one feels like forever. Every time. It already felt long, and then last night happened. Yeah, and we're ignoring all the amazing stuff that happened in Edmonton, which Which we will get to.

Don't worry, Oilers fans. We will get to it. I don't even remember. So, let's talk about first. Steve and I agreed last night on the group chat. Jesse didn't respond, but he saw it. He's sleeping. Responsible young man.

Responsible young man that Jesse is. That we would go 3-2-1 Witcher verdict on the hit. Okay? Alright, so how should we do it? Should we do, like, suspension, not suspension? And what are we saying? Dirty clean. I think dirty clean, and then we get into suspension, not suspension.

Because I think dirty clean has to be, it's black or white. You either didn't think it was dirty or you thought it was, right? Okay. I think there is room for a gray area. No, no, but you can, okay, pick one. Okay, no, no, I'll pick one. Don't hockey Twitter me here, please. Okay, okay.

Is that right? Actually, it's not. If we could just be broadcasters for a second and make sweeping judgments. Okay, yes. Because that's what really good sports broadcasters do. That's what I learned. You're either A or you're B or you're not. There's no nuance

Yeah that's right God damn There is no context LeBron is not one of the top 10 NBA players of all time Absolutely not And the Raptors Are better than Cleveland Because that's what I think so

LeBron basically sat the whole fourth quarter yesterday That makes me so sad He had a beer He had a beer It's disrespectful Anyway Okay so Ready?

I'm gonna count down Okay so we're saying Dirty or clean Dirty or clean For Niskanen The play The incident But there's two incidents

Within the incident It all comes into one incident So you say dirty or clean I think suspension not suspension Because that to me is the be all end all For dirty or clean So if you say dirty Because you're confusing this

You're twittering me here All we have to do is say dirty or clean It doesn't need to be We'll do dirty or clean In three Three Two One

Dirty Wow So Adam said dirty Yep Jesse said clean I said clean I'm gonna say I'm gonna say dirty with a caveat

Obviously we all have to explain our answers I'm gonna also say clean with a caveat Before we do that Please Have you guys not seen the ruling? Well I know Niskanen will not get a A call from the league Yeah

No suspension No suspension Not even a hearing Not even a hearing Now Devil's Advocate Did he not already serve a one game suspension? I would say yes

Five in a game in the first period of a hockey game. Yeah, absolutely. And that's why I say dirty with a caveat. But let's start with you, Steve. What did you see? I don't... I was reading what people said. And I don't think my eyes work.

I don't... Because it's three parts, right? That's the internet, though, man. Oh, I know. It's three parts. It's Ovechkin's slash. It's Ovechkin's supposed slew foot. Which he had a much worse slew foot in the third period

Yeah Honestly he might He should probably get a fine for that Anyway It's the slash The Ovechkin slew foot And the Niskanen cross check All I read was Ovechkin slash Crosby in the head

Do you know how many times I watched it To make sure that's not I didn't see that What happened And I'm watching it And I read Dozens hundreds of people

saying that and I'm looking at it going what am I why am I not seeing head am I wrong instead

you know what Jesse a good thing to bring up would be Pete Blackburn's gif if you go to Pete Blackburn's timeline he just repeats oh what a night he had

yeah yeah he had a great night he had a good night just because it takes forever to get to it in that clip and they don't slow it down enough

so here's the deal what I saw was Ovechkin lifting Crosby's stick which is a legal play I saw a slash you did see a slash I did see a slash

I saw a slash later But there was, going into him skating in, did Oveshkin not try to... Was it like a slash chop sort of thing? I felt like that. Sorry, a lift chop? Yeah. I think there was something. So it's not legal.

It will, a technically illegal play that you see dozens of times per regular season hockey game, let alone playoff. And it goes uncalled all the time. All the time. So I don't get it. Are you looking for the initial thing there, Jesse? I just want to make sure he didn't hit him in the head.

I need to watch it like a 35th time. He does? I thought he hit him in the arm. Well, it's hard from this particular angle that I saw it from. But it looks like to me it didn't look intentional. Like when you saw the slash to the head that I always think about when I think slash to the head

is on Brashear, right? That looks intentional, right? Well, because it was. This one though, it kind of looks like sticks were flying and people were going really fast. Okay, did you see it the same way I did, where I thought he slashed him in the arm to begin with and then his stick bounced and then hit him in the head gently on the follow-through?

There's no way Crosby got hit there and was like, So here it is. So this is from a different angle than I thought. This is a good angle. This is a great angle. See, there is a high-sticking call there. Now, okay, what were the penalties on this play? Was it just Niskanen?

Just Niskanen. Just the five in the game. I want to look at the feed here You can make it a high sticking call But the idea that that Knocked Crosby woozy and off balance It was the foot From this angle, look at the foot though

I don't think there's a foot there He doesn't touch his foot See the one criticism of this gif Is it starts too late For the slash thing I guess he wanted to focus on But I don't see I don't see the slew foot there

I don't know if it was an intentional slew foot As much as it was just Skating Yeah, skating The one, I think it was on Justin Schultz With about two and a half to go in the third period Slew foot 100% a slew foot

He should maybe get fined for that I don't know about suspended Brad Marchand was able to get away with 9,000 of them This season, it was ridiculous Niskanen If you watch the play in slow motion And he even said this after the game If you watch it in slow motion

It's horrible It's terrible He had all the time in the world. Everything looks horrible in slow motion. A hundred percent. Never give your opinion on a hit until you see it in full speed. It's. Now, let's explain that because that is something very early on.

We were watching a game and you kind of taught me. You know, when we started on this show. Well, after I got taught. Well, yeah, but it's knowledge, right? You pass it. So why is that? Let's specifically set that part out. Well, okay, so.

On any hit, by the way. Any hit. Any hit. One thing, like I saw Tyler Delo say it, and of course he got roasted for it because emotions are running high and no one's going to be reasonable in this situation. Cap fans think it was clean. Pittsburgh fans are going to think it was dirty, as is the way of the world. If your player got hurt, you're going to think it was a dirty play.

This is the angle I saw. Boom. And that looks terrible. That's a My Regular Face. That's a My Regular Face. It's slow motion and it's direct to the brain. Right. Look at this.

Look at this. We're going to see it again. This is from My Regular Face. Steph on Twitter Oh, Crosby loses his balance I don't see the slash to the head there BANG! Hold on, look up I see contact to the head, but it's not a

I don't think it's an intentional one There's a difference between the stick hitting the head And it being a slash You could maybe give him a high sticking Careless use of the stick Yeah, but I don't see it It was the slash in the arm, the stick bounced He's still holding the stick

So because of the bounce, it hit him in the head It's not a slash to the head It's being irresponsible with your stick It's a high-sticking call that gets called a thousand times a season Yep So then you get to the Matt Niskan So we're through the Ovechkin part of it for you Yeah

Tell me about the Matt Niskan part Tell me why you think, clean It was a high-speed thing And he just gets his hands up That's it He's holding his stick Just gets his hands up Jesse, can we see one of those angles again?

Sure. And I'm going to explain to you, and everybody listening, I want to explain to why I think this is a dirty play. Okay. Now, do I think it's, I didn't say it was a suspendable play. I said it was a dirty play. And welcome to the playoffs, kids. It's full of dirty plays.

Oh, my God. This game had thousands of them. If Crosby had kept his balance there, right, ignoring the Ovechkin stuff, which I think was just, To me, they were battling for puck position, and I think that Ovechkin probably could have got a high stick there, although how is a ref going to see it at that speed? When you actually see it at full speed, it's very fast.

So when Crosby loses his balance, he obviously falls down, and the stick and gloves hit him in the face, right? That's kind of why, that's the point of impact, correct? Yes. Can you find the clip with audio, and we'll play it in real time, and we'll say,

Bing, bing, bing. Here's what happens, here's what happens. So my key to this is that the cross-check, whether Crosby falls down or not, is coming. So that is why I classify it as a dirty play, because a cross-check's a dirty play. So he intended on playing Crosby with a... Absolutely.

But is it one of those net-front cross-checks? I'm not saying that it's not, but that still doesn't make it a clean play, to me. Right. So, not clean. Oh, I can meet you there. I can meet you there. Ovechkin was wrong for the slash.

Or high stick. I wouldn't call it a slash. No, I would call the initial slash high sticking careless. Niskanen was going to cross check Crosby. It wasn't going to be in the head, though. Crosby goes down. I'm not blaming Crosby. This isn't victim blaming.

It's a fast play. He goes down. Niskanen made, or Niskanen was preparing to make what is a relatively accepted play. All right, so let's have a look at this. On audio? Yeah. If we can throw this into the video

Is this going to be full speed though? Okay we'll throw this into the clip Okay so Crosby So we'll do bing bing bing Slash Hit Come on I didn't even have time for the second one

Like you don't even see the stick hit the head It's so fast So just say Ovechkin Niskanen Like Ovechkin, Niskanen It is fast The reason I feel the way I do Is that I do feel like Niskanen

Absolutely was going to cross check him Right, where? Probably in the mid section Probably somewhere in the low back, hip area And that's part for the course in the playoffs Like a pushing cross check Or like a jabbing There is a difference

I don't think so I think it was a jab And the only reason I feel that way Is his arms were already up And they were out Right They're already sort of out

This is what I'm saying A full blown cross check It's like a bench press You're starting from your chest That's true And pushing out If his arms are already out It's like

You're keeping distance With the guy It's something defensemen Do every single game Every single shift So that's why I don't think It's totally vicious

The slow-mo replay Here it is right before he crosses. His arms are still down here. Yeah. And they're coming up. Right, so his, okay, his arms are at about his hips. See, it's, yeah. Even, ugh, like he's about to get him in the shoulder.

He is, he is going into him. He is going into him with some sort of cross-jack, right? But where are his arms, though? How far out are his arms? Well, and that's the thing, is that. Because I think that matters. Arms still down. Yeah.

Arms still down. Yeah, arms still down, arms still down, arms still down. And arm position is key here. and how long is that in real time like 0.2 seconds maybe one and the thing is okay that's why I don't think like you know there's a lot on Twitter about

oh Niskanen meant to and of course we'll get to the Rob I'm so sad that we have to talk about this I'm so upset I was actually Hockey Central did on the way in you know like if we have to we have to but if you look at where Niskanen's arms

are in comparison to where Crosby's body would be had he not fallen. That's midsection, man. And so, yes, it's a dirty play. Yes, it's probably a penalty, although in the playoffs, probably not. But, you know, because I think in a regular season game, if Crosby stays up and Niskanen

cross-checks him like that, that's a penalty. Because he doesn't have the puck, and he's not a part of the play anymore. But he also wouldn't get clobbered like that if he hits him in the midsection. Crosby probably still stays on his skates. And I'm sure Niskanen was banking on that. Do you see what I'm saying? So, I

Do I think Matt Niskanen or Alexander Ovechkin got together and said, Yo, you know what we need to do? Take out Crosby, but do it super quick. Which is the accusation Rob Rossi made. That's the accusation Rob Rossi made. So let's talk about this guy. Who is Rob Rossi? A guy who follows me on Twitter, apparently, and probably won't after today.

So it's a PWHA... He's a pro hockey writer association. PHWA. Yes. Member. He used to work for a larger outlet in Pittsburgh. The Tribune. That's right.

I don't know what happened there. Last I checked, he's working for some Uber upgrade, whatever the hell. Sure. Belgium hockey outlet or something. I don't know. Something I've never heard of. Which is fine. Who cares?

Approved. It's like that mortgage commercial. Yeah. Approved. Anyway. And he Made a couple videos After the game

In the stands Like the fan he comes across As And One of them Is basically a wrestling promo Where he's calling out Barry Trotz And the other is basically him just

Taking a big dirty dump All over the Washington Capitals And their fans And the team And Etc, etc It's embarrassing So what do you want to start with then?

I don't know Do you want to start with the wrestling promos? Are we playing them? We can I think the thing that I hated about it the most Is people were immediately Like oh Steve What do you think of this?

And I'm like why? Because I'm a video blogger? Fuck you Well you've never done anything like this I don't think so, maybe You're not I mean Can we play the promo? I'm looking for it

He might have taken Oh they're on Upgroove Or Upgroove Wherever the hell Upgroove You can also find it In the Greg Wyshynski article Which I thought was weird too

Like I mean He's trying to give Rossi The benefit of the doubt And he even calls him His friend Which again I think that relationship Is going to be a little rockier

This morning Well So be it Yeah Sometimes you gotta Good friends Call each other out When they're being stupid

Now I mean, he's being stupid. Rob Rossi. He's being a moron. He says, Upgroove writes, let's talk to at real underscore Rob Rossi about game three. And here's what he has to say. I'm going to play it all the way through.

It's a minute 19. The Washington Capitals are all about talking hockey plays. So let's go over the hockey plays they made in game three. Oh, right. See, here's the thing about the Washington Capitals. Pause. Pause. The second hand embarrassment Oh

So what he did there was he looked down And was basically like Oh right It's almost like oh I didn't see you there You know like it's that sort of Old school Pausing Fake pause pregnant pause terrible pause

You know what I mean that Well even if it was a well Executed pause He's saying the capitals didn't make any hockey plays in a playoff game that they won they won the game and they won it it's it's just so embarrassing and how many seconds in are we seven eight 17 oh my goodness 17 well geez play still perplexes me and i'm trying to figure out why people get so shocked that they always lose this time of year now they did win game three of round two against the pittsburgh penguins yeah considering

they eliminated a good portion of the Penguins roster during the game, including Sidney Crosby, not with hockey plays, by the way, you would think the Capitals would have had a little bit more of a dominating performance, except again, they came unglued. Again, they came unhinged. And yes, they're going to hang their hats on rallying and overtime. But really, if you're a Washington fan today, knowing everything that was on the line, and knowing that the best you could do was eke out a 3-2 win of a game that you lost, Tell the cameraman you're starting over Yeah

You lost composure I recognize those pauses Rob Stop and do it again This stinks I recognize those pauses I make them all the time Start over this is terrible How long do you think we've been doing this How long do you think we've been listening to this clip

Give me a minutes At least 45 seconds Yeah just about It feels a lot longer though It does And it's just I'm not trying to insult this man Well I get

This is Dude this isn't well executed You're not insulting him personally This is me six years ago It's poorly done It's just bad Period Poorly done

And I would say that I'm talking about just execution too I'm not even talking content No The execution is Revolting Here we go And then you take into account

What he's saying too 19 more seconds Momentum Here let me rewind this Yeah yeah yeah Out of 3-2 win Of a game that you lost composure, you lost momentum.

Is it really that big of a victory? Yes. Not really. Capitals needed to come here to Pittsburgh to get two. And if they play the way they did in game three, in game four, they're going back to Washington down three to one. Can I just tell you something? You can tell there, and this is somebody who's been through this

many, many times because God knows, when I started my career, I did not know how to tell a damn story, and I'm still working on it. The hardest part about a story is ending it. The hardest part about a report is ending it. The hardest part about doing anything is ending it. It's always, ask a TV writer. That's why my videos are so long now. I'm like, how do I end this?

Well, it's how do you end it, and how do you end it well? How do you end it with a point? And that is, it's very, very difficult to do, and you can hear him kind of struggling through that. Now, when we listen to that clip, what do you get from that? what is the actual there's a lot of words there but what actual information is conveyed real factual information capitals won but they cheated so it doesn't count pretty much even though it does and they're gonna lose next game because they're the capitals to me that looks like a social media post from the penguins like from from like a 20 year old kid who's just out of

broadcasting school who's doing social media for the Penguins like I seriously I mean like it's a

there's no way he's credentialed in Washington right well he's in aren't they in Washington no they're in

Pittsburgh oh yeah because Washington is home so that I sort of get there's no way

the Capitals give him a pass do they this was game three though yeah it's in Pittsburgh Washington won

the President's Trophy right okay I'm dumb I don't know what that was anyway it's okay

you're not far into that coffee neither am I I think what happened there was that there's a lot of words. There's a lot of bluster. There's a lot of blowhard. It's not even the worst one.

No, I know. I'm going to get to, hey, Rob Rossi, how do you feel about Barry Trotz? Now, please let this play because I want you to hear it in its entirety. Okay? So you've got to let this play through. It's only a minute 19. Don't worry, it'll feel like five. That's nothing personal, Barry. I actually kind of like you.

But you say a lot of stupid things. And you don't win a lot of playoff games. And your team is still trailing this playoff series, which by the way marks the second year in a row you had the NHL's best regular season team and are trailing the Pittsburgh Penguins in a playoff series. And I'm starting to think there's a reason for all of these, well, let's just call them playoff failures in your career. You're the master at getting the most out of your team in the regular season, which makes you the perfect coach for the Washington Capitals, because who knows getting the most out of the regular season better than the

Washington Capitals. But playoff hockey, it's a little bit different, and some of the things you've said are indicative of some of the things that the Capitals have done in this series, and it's not real intelligent hockey. It's not hockey conducive to winning in the postseason, and one of the things you're going to see as this postseason continues is the Penguins advance, the Capitals go home, and It's all because Barry Trotz, maybe he's a good coach. Maybe he's even a really good coach.

Could be a really successful coach in the playoffs. Start over. Sorry. And if you just listen to him talk, you'll know Barry Trotz is incapable of that. Okay, so again, again I ask, what actual information is conveyed? Fuck Barry Trotz. That was the information conveyed. This one was, okay, besides the complete douche chilliness of it all

and how I just couldn't get through that fucking clip, the other clip he had going this morning, oh, he had a banger of a night. He did. He kind of went at Barry Trotz. Oh, do you want to hear that? Yeah. Yes.

Before I say what I'm going to say. barry is the uh play by alex that led to sid sort of staggering into niskanen where he appeared to get the stick up towards the face is that a hockey play was there a penalty well i don't understand i don't need to be a hockey player i'm just asking well is it is it a hockey play also no i'm not gonna i'm not gonna defend anything the sticks or am i gonna you want me to defend and Alex, is Kunitz's predatory hit on Oshie okay? Or the one on Backstrom, is that okay? I'm not going to debate about all that stuff, so that's a terrible question.

So no, Barry? Next, you got your answer. I'm embarrassed for him. Yeah. I'm just asking the question. He is Eric Hartman's impression of Glenn Beck. Yo, he's Sean Hannity. He's Rush Limbaugh.

I'm just asking the question. Yeah. I'm just asking. Now, to have that exchange and then make the video that he made is such a chicken shit move. Chicken shit move. I, oh. Why? Tell me why.

He was standing in front of the fucking guy. He had every chance to say whatever he wanted to Barry Trotz. Instead, he just tries to, yeah, gotcha. with Barry, he tries to gotcha with this hockey play thing and then he cuts a let me tell you something brother the Penguins still on home ice

they're up in this series and you know that you can't beat them when you're fighting clean, you know you gotta fight dirty but I'm gonna be in there with a steel chair and Bobby the Brain Heenan, you know what I think holy shit Rob, what was that deuce chili garbage?

this guy has a vote Yes For awards That's key Major awards in the NHL That are kept in the Hockey Hall of Fame Behind glass That guy

Gets a vote Everyone listening Oh it's hard to get into the industry Bullshit Please take over for people like this That's embarrassing That's shocking What the fuck

Like what the That's not a colleague That's not a peer No No And I'm sure a lot of people Feel the same way about me Because I go on screaming rants

Like this all the time What the Actual fuck is that The difference is you are not an accredited journalist. This coffee's kicking the fucking... And I don't mean... That's not an insult. That's not an insult.

Accredited member of the media. That's not journalism. I get that. But when you masquerade as a journalist... Because if you're part of the Professional Hockey Writers Association, you are a journalist, right? That's why it exists. If you start walking that road...

And what he's doing there is... He asked a tough question. It's very, very simple. He's just taken it out of Sean Hannity's book. He's taken it out of Glenn Beck's book, Donald Trump's book. It's very in vogue right now, especially in American politics. The key is this. Divide and conquer, right?

All you have to do nowadays, it's very, very easy. You just make a wild accusation and you sit back and let the internet go. And you just divide people. So he is... What Rob's done is very, very interesting. he's even divided Penn's fans against themselves

because there are Penn's fans who think yeah this guy he's talking to me and then there are Penn's fans who are smarter than that

and going well no that's idiotic and I think now that he's not working for a legitimate newspaper anymore you know

I don't know enough about that well I'm gonna just say it I think probably now that he's not working for a legitimate newspaper anymore he probably feels

a little bit more freedom to be a little bit more of a personality a cantankerous guy However, if you're going to be a journalist, that prevents you from doing certain things. There's objectivity. You are not, like, he should have his face painted as a penguin. He should be wearing a jersey.

He should be wearing a penguin's jersey in his basement with his dog Twiggy. Right? I mean, like, who's a golden retriever setter. I try to, you know what I mean? You should have something. You should have it. It's a very specific breed. But it's not, and it's not, that is not a, like, you are, you come at us with, the Steve

Dangle context is, I'm a Leafs fan, but you also, I'm going to try to be fair, but I'm also a Leafs fan, but if I'm not, well, I mean, at least I'm wearing this, he comes at us with, I'm a journalist, I have a degree, I'm part of the professional writers association for hockey, and I'm going to come at you with this sort of content, not only is it, and I hate that word, I freaking hate the word content, but not only is what he had to say literally nothing. It's literally the Cheetos of the

journalism world. There is no nutritional value to what he had to say. Beyond that, if you read his column, it's even more bluster. It's just wild accusation, wild accusation, and he went as far as to say that Barry Trotz told his players to go after Crosby and try

to injure him. I don't know if you said Barry Trotz said that, but the meeting that they had one of the things they talked about was taking Crosby out okay so we're at about 10 after 1 p.m eastern the next day so I don't feel that bad talking about it at this point okay I tweeted this morning I'm like why are you all linking to this why what are you doing you mad people it's been too long and everyone's talking about it so I guess we might as well talk about it well I know it'd be I think it'd be a disservice to the audience if we didn't do you know how many clicks that those videos got wow and his article upgroove might go from 3,000 to

3,500 followers today fuck the followers oh yeah it's definitely it's junk food it's definitely junk food like I don't think it'll add to the long term but you know what you know what I will say this okay because i had 3 000 followers once me too if you want if you go up three uh 500 followers now 500 isn't a huge increase what percentage of 3 000 is it though it's a lot it's a big one that's a huge that's a huge jump you're a little startup with 3 000 and you go to 3 500 that's a huge jump now so he'll keep doing it i don't think this is gonna make them gain any followers probably not But this one article, like, it's not going to stop them from doing this in the future because this guaranteed has six-digit hits.

Yeah, for sure. Maybe even seven. Maybe. The time on article won't be good because a lot of people will just sift through it and go, holy shit, and then click off of it. But guaranteed, like, hundreds of thousands of hits. But nobody's going to return to the website. Until the next time he does it.

Yeah. Well, and the thing is, though, if you keep doing that. It's game three. Dude, if you keep doing that, eventually people tune you up. It gets old. Yeah. Well, and we saw in the videos, he's not good enough to continue doing this of any quality. Like, that was so bad.

No. That was so fucking bad. Also, when you try to act tough and you're wearing a sweater vest, man. I'm sorry, man. Like, you're wearing a beige sweater vest. Come on. Calm down. Yeah.

Are you serious? Like, really? He was telling the story of a fight that happened at school later that night in his basement. In church. Yeah. so then I said Jesus Rob it's just embarrassing

listen all this stuff I'd welcome him on the show and tell him all of this face to face no no? fuck you

you can't come on sorry no well I don't have any problem with it I'll stand behind any of it I just think if you want a great breakdown and you don't want to give him the clicks

go to Yahoo cause Greg Wyshynski broke it down yeah he's his friend and give him a click supposedly Greg Wyshynski is his friend now I think

these are the Writings of a passionate fan Which is fine But come at it from that context Don't masquerade as a journalist Yes, there it is Problem I have So what else?

That wrapped up faster Washington won Kevin Shattenkirk scored I think that's a huge deal He had a turnaround game He had a turnaround moment I don't even know if he had a turnaround game No.

Man. People are talking about offering this guy big money in the summer. It's going to cost him money the way he's played. You know how Thomas Vanik, Ray Ferraro, had that great quote? Nobody has spent more money than Thomas Vanik in these playoffs. Just. What were we saying Shattenkirk was going to get per year? Seven mil?

Seven easy. He's spending money. I don't know how much of it he's spending. I don't know if he's spending term but he's spending money in these playoffs man he wins a cup who gives a shit

but well I mean like after Thomas Caberle won a cup with the Bruins I don't think anyone was like now let's pull a

dump truck of money up to Caberle's house and and Shattenkirk needs to play better and I mean you could argue the entire Capitals team

needs to play better this is why I mean they won in overtime but remember they won in overtime and they allowed the Penguins to come back. They won three

overtime games against the Leafs. I have breaking news. Oh, what's up? Zaitsev has been signed to a seven-year $31.5 million contract. I like that. What's the division there? I'm not smart. So it's $4.5 million a year. Love it. Total value. Yeah, I love that. That's good.

That is fabulosity. This was just sent out by the Leafs PR. So he gets basically the first three years, he gets a $3 million signing bonus and a salary. Oh no, this is the breakdown on the athletic. so so the signing bonus for the first three years is three million dollars he will make a base salary of 1.5 again it all averages out to 4.5 um and then he'll get in the last two years so 20 20 20 sorry 22 23 and 23 24 he'll make base 2 5 and then a two million dollar signing bonus and

then in those two years in between will be four four and a half now i think the reason i forget when the CBA expires, but one of those years where the signing bonus is $3 million, I think basically it's a lockout proofing

of the contract. So I think I think he gets $3 million no matter what I think is how that works. Interesting. Good. Good for him.

Jesse, can you look up something on Ben Smith? Because I got a very weird text that I'm not sure about. Okay. Which we'll get to later in the show about the expansion draft.

Sorry, that was a little hiccup. Are we still? No, well, I mean, since we've got the breaking news right now who's gonna get suspended

no one who should be suspended no one is the series I still think I still think Pittsburgh wins this series I still think

they're a better team it was reported Crosby's okay yeah apparently he's walking around in a suit and fine who actually knows because it's a head injury

Ben Smith signed a one year contract worth 650 grand with the Leafs with the Leafs one way or two way no details

it better be two way it doesn't really matter So, should we get to the Leafs and expansion? There's a few things that I want to talk about. So, with that, and I still want to remember that we need to get to the Oilers and stuff, too. Oilers and Milbury and all that shit. Yeah, but since the Zaitsev news broke, we'll go to that now. So, first off, starting with Nikita Zaitsev, seven-year contract.

And it's funny, as Steve and I were walking in today, I was like, I think there are people that are really freaked out about Zaitsev not signing and that somehow he'll sign in the KHL. And the opposite as well Seven years Because The time from Elliot Freeman Reporting it to it actually being

Signed today is probably what two weeks Two and a half weeks So people were freaking out Now my thought on that was Who the hell cares when they sign him He's an RFA right They can wait until after the expansion September 2nd

Exactly it doesn't matter If you've agreed to the terms It doesn't matter when they sign So obviously they figured it out, they signed him today, no big deal. One thing that I think everybody's going to need to watch out for with the Leafs this year is patience. We're not used to patience. We have had very reactive management in the past. Now we've got management that goes, no, we're going to do this on our own time.

If you remember, we had this crazy first overall draft pick last year who didn't get signed until mid-August. Austin Matthews. Right? Didn't get signed. He gets drafted first overall and was not a part of the organization for seven more weeks. Technically. Technically. He was still in rookie camp and everything.

Sure. However, key to remember that. So when you think of some of our key RFAs, Zach Hyman, Connor Brown, just to name a couple, Nikita Zaitsev, the Leafs will take their time. And I can almost guarantee that Zach Hyman and Connor Brown will not be re-signed until after July 1st. Or at very least after the expansion draft. So I spoke to... Why sign them now? There's not much of a rush.

Especially with Connor Brown, who would have to be exposed, wouldn't he? Or protected? That's not my understanding. Oh, well, he has to be protected regardless. Oh, right, because he's RFA. Yeah, so, spoke to CapFriendly. I think I get it now. I get it.

So, geez, there's so many little things we need to go through that I wrote about and hopefully you've read by now, but whatever, we'll go through in audio form. june 18th to 20th las vegas will have a unique free agent signing period so someone like brian boyle for example who's a free agent whose contract does not expire until july 1st las vegas has an opportunity to sign him if they do sign brian boyle roman polak matt hunwick any number of ufas that the leafs have in that time period that counts as their claim from the leafs so they can't take anybody can't take anybody else that's your guy july 1st onwards tough shit

if the leafs lose a guy one of those guys to vegas tough shit question in that in that funny free agency period are the leafs still allowed to negotiate with say a brian boyle i'm just using him as an example because he's a key UFA. Well, Brian Boyle is Leafs' property until July 1st, so I can't imagine why they wouldn't be allowed. I think it would just be Vegas and Leafs.

And that goes for every other team in the league. So that's my understanding. The Ben Smith signing is very concerning. Now you put forth an article yesterday or two days ago, sportsnet.ca

It was yesterday morning, yeah. I wrote it two days ago. It was about how the Leafs were going to handle expansion. Why is the Ben Smith signing worrying? So this is super concerning. The Leafs have a bunch of forwards that they may or may not lose. The guys they're obviously going to protect, JVR, Kadri, Bozak, why the hell would you expose Connor Brown?

And why the hell would you expose Leo Komarov? If you're going to get rid of any of those guys, you're going to trade them because you'll get a fair amount of assets for them. So, now you got guys like Kirby Reichel, Josh Levo, Brennan Leipzig And there's one more, I'm missing Seth Griffith And Eric Fair, Ben Smith, Matt Martin Now, if you do the 7-3-1 approach Or I think the 8-1 as well

But anyway, we'll say for the sake of argument the 7-3-1 approach Which is the approach the Leafs are most likely to take You need to expose two forwards that meet certain requirements. Isn't it 70 games or something? It's either 70 games over the last two seasons or 40 games this past season. Ben Smith played 36 with Toronto and four with Colorado. Exactly 40 games. So he meets the requirements.

Meaning the Leafs, now that he is re-signed, can expose him as one of those two required guys. The reason that's concerning is I thought those two guys were for certain going to be Matt Martin and Eric Fair. Leipzig doesn't meet the requirements. Griffith doesn't meet the requirements. Are they still exposed? Yes, but you need to expose at least two of a certain type of guys, right? So Levo doesn't meet it. Griffith doesn't meet it.

Reichel doesn't meet it. And who am I missing? Leipzig? Did I say Leipzig? Yeah. Yeah, Leipzig, Griffith, Reichel. Any of those four young guys, they don't meet the requirements. So naturally, you would have to expose Matt Martin and Eric Fair.

Now that Ben Smith is signed to next season, they don't. So in theory, the Leafs could protect Fair, which they won't, or Matt Martin, which would unfortunately mean they only have one spot to protect all four of Leipzig, Griffith Reichel and Levo

In what universe is Matt Martin claimed? There is absolutely, there's no reason to do it Now, especially with Tom it's Porzacca, right? How do you say his name right? Parashka Sorry, who was on this show I know I'm terrible with names, sorry

I might have even screwed up Tom, who was on this show, would not advocate for Matt Martin being... And he works with Vegas. No. They hired him. Now, it's interesting because I was looking at the prospect of re-signing Ben Smith and I'm like, that actually makes a lot of sense. And Leaf fans are going to be like, what?

Go look at who the Leafs can call up from the minors. For centers, they got Freddy Gauthier and... Is it? Now, they just signed Miro Altonen. Hasn't played a game on North American ice yet. We'll start probably with the Marlies anyway. Yeah, and it would be irresponsible to assume, there's our guy.

Plus, you might lose Brian Boyle. You might get another free agent. You don't know that. So you got Gautier. Adam Brooks will be coming up from junior. It would be unfair to throw him in that position. So you basically got Gautier, and that's it. Having Ben Smith as an AHL option is not that bad.

We don't know if it's one- or two-way, though, is the only problem. I would hope it's a two-way contract. Even if it isn't, who cares? 600,000, it's below that. Well, because then you've got to bury him, right? You've got to—it would have—it wouldn't be as good cap-wise for Toronto. Okay.

Now, having him as the fourth-line center full-time, I'm not behind. No, of course not. Having him as a guy you can call up and down, I think that's fine. But the whole expansion draft thing, that's a boogeyman for me. That scares me. Who do you think is going to get claimed? Who are you hoping gets claimed? Nobody

I'm hoping it's Seth Griffith Because the Leafs claimed him off waivers I think it's going to be Joe If he's not Yeah We got him for free We lose him for free Whoop-de-doo

The other option is Potentially sending Eric Fair To Vegas And the Leafs would probably Have to give up a draft pick Ideally the one that they got From Pittsburgh for him So it would be Fair in a fourth

Which is a fair deal Martin Marincin Or Alexey Marchenko I wouldn't be totally Oh Adam It took me a sec Marincin or Marchenko I wouldn't be totally heartbroken

Marchenko especially With a team like Vegas You would think they would be interested in a Marincin-Marchenko But a guy like Levo Who had more points than he had games When he played To me he's the most attractive option I kind of hope it's a winger

It kind of has to be doesn't it Well no It could be Marincin or Marchenko But I hope it's a winger Because the Leafs Like honestly I would hate to lose Josh Levo

The Leafs have 30 Josh Levos Like Karl Grundstrom's A Marley Today He's skating with the team Today

I forgot about that Which means So if they Let's say they take Levo Leipzig Reichel Griffith Griffith still

Um Grundstrom Lindbergh Like isn't even on the team Right now Cause he's hurt I gotta tell you The guy

The guy I'm a little bit Concerned about losing Would be Leipzig Right So here's the thing. I think he is the obvious protection guy with that seventh spot. That's assuming the Leafs protect Matt Martin.

Even if they protect Matt Martin, I think they protect Brendan Leipzig. Can they still expose Matt Martin and then protect, say, Levo and Leipzig? They can do that, right? There's not a limit to how many guys you can expose, right? So you could expose... They could expose three guys. It might not mean that they are protecting him, right? We're making that assumption.

Now, here's another potential situation. What if the Leafs find a way... Sorry, sorry. What if the Leafs find a way to trade Eric Fair or Matt Martin, something like that, to someone else? Doesn't matter. Well, now they only got one guy. So they have to extend Ben Smith or acquire someone they can expose.

So does that mean they're making a trade? I think it just means they're crossing you know all their T's dotting all their I's and making me sweat a little bit

because holy shit they might actually protect Matt Martin right well here's the it's not even a shot against Matt Martin but

Matt Martin could be honest I think his contract is his protection but what if they love Matt Martin that much and I think they do there's no way

there's no question they do no Steve says there's no way I think Babcock does and I think Lou does yeah For fuck's sake, no. Steve, sometimes...

They're not going to claim him! Devil's advocate. And I agree. I agree. They're not going to claim him. Devil's advocate with Matt Martin is, A, when he's paired with a good center, he doesn't look that bad. He's still terrible with a puck.

It's like swinging a baseball at something. He looks like the Toronto Blue Jays when he's handling the puck. He's just whiff, whiff, whiff. It's so funny. He had a couple games against Washington where he had a breakaway, grade A scoring chance. He hit the post. Oh, yeah! Yeah!

The vast majority of the time, though, give him a shovel. Same outcome. Give him a ring at stick. Same outcome. There is something to be said on a young team for a character guy. At $2.5 million, I'm with you. It's too much money. However, when things get down, there's always a personality that can pull you.

If you're a great player, but sometimes you get a little sad or sometimes you get a little down, It's always great to have a guy who, no matter what, is infallible. Just bring it at it. Let's go. Let's go. Find another one. Fair. Find another one.

2.5 million isn't that much for your fourth line guy. Yeah, it is. It's a little much. It's a little much. Maybe not for your center. Not a fourth line center. Yeah. I can see that for a fourth line center, although even that's a little high.

I think it's too much money. I know why they did it. I understand the reasoning behind it. and I think that if you have a guy like that who is going to what's Mitch Marner's season? Is Mitch Marner's season the same? He's got the same talent level

but Matt Martin made him feel at home they obviously hit it off, they were roommates we cannot deny there's a personality thing 2.5 doesn't seem like that much and that's probably how the Leafs are viewing it and that's why I'm playing devil's advocate I don't love the contract

I'm not saying get rid of Matt Martin I'm just saying don't protect him now you might lose him Tom is heading up With Vegas and George McPhee He's heading up They hired Tom From General Fanager

For this reason There's no way Tom goes Matt Martin's our guy Yeah There's no way No way Now yeah Ask yourself

Would you rather have Matt Martin Or Kirby Reichel Would you rather have Matt Martin Or Seth Griffith Would you rather have Matt Martin Or Josh Levo I'd take Eric Fair Because he's the center

Can play center Yeah Can play center Sorry that was me Sorry Can play center and played then the one game

he played with the Leafs he didn't look that bad but here's the deal too if they don't claim Eric Faire you can play him at center on the fourth line and I think Vegas would be dumb

to not call up the Leafs and be like look we would rather have one of these younger guys but we would take Eric Faire if you sweeten the pot

sweeten it and well I think when Lou talked at the end of your press conference Lou is we just ripped

Rob Rossi for giving us literally nothing in a whole bunch of words. Lou is also a master. Lou's a master at giving us nothing in a whole bunch of words. There's a... You know what, though?

Okay, here's a great example. FNUF gave nothing answers. Leo Komarov gives nothing answers. People find Leo Komarov charming. People hated Dion FNUF. It's something about delivery. Warmth. It's like sometimes what Kanye West says,

I'm like, damn, that is really smart. except you delivered it in such an aggressive way that I can't be I can't there's something about the way I like watch his

watch Kanye's interview with Zane Lowe it's like an hour long really good from the Yeezus album where he went crazy and people were like oh my god

and he was talking about leather shirts and talking about whatever you know or leather jogging pants or whatever things rich people a lot of what Kanye says

in that interview makes a lot of sense but you have to get past the delivery which is hard for people to do so in that regard Rob Ross's delivery not great.

Lou Lamorello's delivery, pretty damn good. Pretty damn confident. What he did say and I thought this was the most interesting part of that press conference was, we're not really that worried about the expansion draft. And he wouldn't just say that if there wasn't a solid well thought out

good plan in place. I'm not looking for brilliance here. Let's just, don't approach this ham-handed. You've got Brandon Pridham, you've got Kyle Dubas, you've got Lou Lamorello, you've got Brandon Shanahan overlooking it all. and Mark Hunter I think they got it under control

you have to think they got it under control and I think Ben Smith is Marley's depth man I really do I know we don't know whether it's a one way or a two way I gotta think it's two way but they have no if Miro Altonen is great

where's Miro Altonen fitting in on the Leafs they know Miro Altonen is going to be a Marley center so you got Adam Brooks Miro Altman Freddy Gauthier and Ben Smith all of a sudden

doesn't look so bad right and maybe you move Altman to the wing because I don't I mean sometimes I mean Nylander was the center

in Sweden too right yes he was the center on the Marley yeah so I mean that's the thing you just don't know

what they're going to do but I feel like they're looking like might still be an NHL center at some point Ben Smith's a reliable guy they like him they can put him

into certain positions in situations he'll win he does win faceoffs when his finger's not broken yeah Funny how that works Yeah, that was the problem

So, yeah, he was in there for his face-off ability And then when that went away But the guy was playing with a busted hand Like, try making a decent pass Even chip it out Take a shot Like, you need your hands It's like people

I hate when I see people I saw people chirping Aaron Sanchez Because he had a blister Or something messed up with his nail Oh my god, have you seen his nail though? It's gross Well, and think of how important Every little piece of your finger is

If you're an MLB pitcher His job is to hold things And throw it I know you can throw a ball But what if you had to whip a ball At an assassin Yeah You have to throw it 97 miles an hour

And you have to do it within a square foot And you gotta do it 80 times It's stupid It's stupid I could throw a ball with a blister Yeah you could For your dog to catch Oh, and how much is a little different?

How much are the Blue Jays paying you? Exactly. Cool. Cool. Exactly. We have more breaking news. Oh, my God. Wow.

Sidney Crosby has a concussion. Oh, shit. And will be out for tomorrow's game. Who's this from? The Penguins and Coach Sullivan. That sucks. They said they'll evaluate from there. So, that's disappointing.

Damn. That sucks. I'm sorry, Penguins fans. However, you're still the flipping Penguins, right? That is not going to help my take from earlier. No, you know what I think? I think with that, I think the Penguins will just get mad, and they'll just fucking get out there and fire it up, honestly.

Like, I really do believe that they're going to play with an edge tomorrow. Hey, you know what? They almost won against the Cavs. Yeah, yeah. It was an overtime game. And they came back. They came back. Yeah, like, what's hilarious, that Ovechkin slew foot I was talking about,

I found that clip. But I think it was against Justin Schultz. And I think it was with about 240 to go in the third. And the score is still 2-0 Washington. Wow. That game went to overtime. Wow. It's the Penguins, man.

They can do it. I want to talk about... Leafs didn't have Sidney Crosby. They pushed it to six. True. So the Leafs, while we're on the subject of the Leafs, and again, I was going to save this until later because it is definitely not the most important thing

that we're talking about today. This is going to be a long, thick show, so just get into it. Long and thick. With two C's. The Leafs this year will draft someone born in 1999. Holy shit. Holy shit.

I just wanted to throw that stat at you. Holy shit. 1999. Holy shit. Curtis Joseph was already a Toronto Maple Leaf. Holy shit. We were in grade 5 Because grade 6

Grade 6 was 2000 I remember that Holy shit The millennium I think When Will Smith came out With that Drew Hill jam That Drew Hill joint

Big Will Drew Hill Yeah Wipe your feet It's here and I like it What's it what what Also Backstreet's

Backstreet Boys Millennium I think came out Yes it did Strangely enough On the millennium Weird how that happens Now

How long So the last time The Leafs made the playoffs In a full season Before this one Was 2004 Meaning This year's draft class

Was five When Jeremy Roenick Scored on Ned Belfort Wow Holy shit We're ancient We're old now We're young

And ancient Connor Sherry Also has a concussion Oh jeez Now that was from His own teammate Yeah So he's going through

The process than they haven't decided. Which was another thing. The Caps took out half the Penguins' roster there, Rob. How about, is Patrick Hornquist on the Caps? I had no idea. If you get the chance, I'm going to give the puppets a bit of a shout-out here.

They did a really good breakdown on Erik Brandström from Sweden, who may be available at 17th or 18th when the Leafs draft. Now, this guy's an undersized defenseman, really moves the puck well. They're really good at draft stuff. They are, yeah.

And they've already started it, which is my favorite, because even when the Leafs are gone, they're not really gone. There's tons of stuff. It's like, what's going to be available? They actually did a breakdown of who has been drafted at 17th or 18th overall. Hint, it's not good.

Except for one Jake Gardner in the last 15 years was drafted. I believe he was drafted 18th, so that's pretty cool. Something like that, by the Ducks. And Eric Brandstrom's interesting because he's a puck-moving defenseman. And of course, because of the internet, we're now able to see examples of what they're talking about. His outlet passes are great. It looks like he's got a pretty good shot. Moves really, really well.

The one thing that has dropped him out of the top 10, apparently, is that he's 5'11". And for some reason, that matters. So this is good. If we can get a really strong puck-moving defenseman to come into the Marlies next year, I'm happy. That's great. Or play in the SHL. The Leafs have pretty decent size options, actually, on the back end. Renat Valjev is a big boy, 6'2", 215, I think.

And Andrew Nielsen is a great point-scoring defenseman. He's 6'3", 220. He's a big boy. That's a big... And he's 20. Does he have a mean streak? He's 20 years old. Yeah, he's got a mean streak.

Could get meaner. How... How close are we to him and Travis Dermott making the team? Because Travis Dermott, I was watching the... Dermott looks good. I was watching the Albany Devils-Marley's game that went into triple overtime the other night, and Dermott had seven shots by the second period. Wow.

Dermott's good, man. He's really good. He had a rocky start. He's starting his professional career. He was battling injuries. He's been real good since then. A lot of Marlies I wrote about this

A lot of Marlies Had terrible starts And then If you The whole team Yeah Brutal Except for Brendan Leipzig

And Kasperi Kapanen That was it But if you just If you took out Like their first 15 games Or something Like Andreas Johnson Went from like

0.3 points per game To 0 point Over 0.8 Kirby Reichel Kirby Reichel Went from the same thing To about 0.8 And the Marlies

Had three guys who are over a point of game. Leipzig, Kapanen, and Griffith. They're very good. Andrew Nielsen went up. Dermott went up. They are a strong, strong team. It's funny.

They're still in the playoffs, by the way. Casimir Kaskisquo is playing in the playoffs. He's the guy. Holy shit. And he's playing well. And he's been amazing. And after not being one of the better goalies in the ECHL at all, but, I mean, I was looking at the ECHL goalie numbers,

like just crumple that up and throw it out there. You have to, when you look at the ECHL goalie numbers, and I've been burned on this a couple times, you have to look at them in context of the ECHL. There's only like three or four goalies above 920. Yeah, you can't look at them like it's the NHL. You have to look at it like, okay, I'm going to look at this goaltender's numbers,

but I'm also going to have 20 other goaltenders on that chart just so I can get a sense of what's going on here. Because it's a different league, right? It'd be like looking at the SHL or the KHL and going, okay, I'm picking this one goalie and I'm taking NHL stats and applying it to this. It doesn't count. Can you imagine the absolute boneheaded mistakes

that are made on defense in that league. Oh my god. Like, think of the ones you see in the NHL and the AHL. They're worse. They're worse.

Yeah, lots of guys. Lots of options. So, we didn't really talk about it, but Callie Rosen is one of the guys the Leafs have signed on defense.

They have agreed to a deal. Sorry, it was reported they have agreed to a deal. They have not signed it. Okay. But it looks like they will. So, what do you know?

He's Swedish. Swedish, she's about our size Probably smaller So like six, maybe a hair under six That's really all I know Okay Unfortunately, yeah I've been paying attention to other things

Fine Like the playoffs or something? Yeah, a little bit Okay, the next thing I want to do is There's so much I know I want to applaud Thick

I want to applaud Edmonton Oilers fans For not only singing the American National Anthem But knowing every single word to it Which is amazing Although I'm sure that was blasted somewhere on a screen Because they always do that It wasn't Wow, see that's great

I want to give American fans some credit All the takes from this video were If it was done in America I bet they wouldn't know that Hold on, can we just compliment the Oilers And not mean that we're not complimenting someone This is the problem with the internet It's not us

I'm not being passive aggressive I'm just saying, hey Edmonton, great job That doesn't mean that it wouldn't happen in America Totally, totally, no, but that's what people were saying That's what everyone's saying Can't we just let a good thing be a good thing? Now, I do have a question though Okay

Why did they sing the American National Anthem? Because Brett Kissel's microphone broke, apparently But it wasn't really broken It wasn't? No, it wasn't I heard him He said his in-ear monitors, he couldn't hear himself in them So he didn't know

the mic was working and then he tried it and he's like oh I can't hear myself so he left the crowd there were a bunch of times in Maple Leaf Square where I'm like

I don't I honestly don't know if I'm talking right now so he was in that situation and he's like my mic's not working but it was now before anybody

gets conspiracy theory head with me I know his rep I know Brett Kissel's rep I know that this was a huge moment for Brett so for him not to be able to sing

would have been really not good well did he get to do Oh Canada? I think he did yeah but no but I mean Edmonton sang it again

when they did OK on it as well maybe they'll have him do it the next time well yeah the thing is obviously he still looks great he still walks away from this looking good but for anybody that was saying oh this was set up cause I've seen that online where it's like oh this was all set up

it's a PR move by the Oilers not set up because Brad Kissel needed to sing that for his career so anybody that thought that no wrong I didn't think it was set up but the mic did work But it was fine I heard you

Yeah Yeah Which That's fair I mean Would it be better To have the arena Sing it

And have it be This cool moment Or you sing it And you have no idea What notes you're hitting Yeah No let the arena sing it Like that's

That's a pro move Also Can we pour one out For the Colorado Avalanche Oh my god We haven't even got To the draft lottery Fucking Philadelphia

Luck it out New Jersey At least New Jersey was bad Philadelphia almost made the playoffs They had a 10 game winning streak Dallas Dallas too New Jersey had a truly wretched season

But I don't honestly In my heart believe they're that bad They got 70 points New Jersey finished one point ahead of last year's Leafs They're not as bad They're not as bad as their record showed IMO I might be wrong there

And now they're getting the first overall pick I know it's not going to be Matthews or McDavid Supposedly, but holy shit Philadelphia Almost made the playoffs, like you said And Dallas is a Lead average goalie Away from contention

Yes, not just play Contention We really need to put that in there Contention, they're great Who made the playoffs in the East? Caps Pens Blue Jackets

Would any of us be shocked If all three of those guys Made it again next year No No Rangers Atlantic We got

Yeah we got No Montreal, Ottawa, Boston Toronto Yeah and then The wild card Rangers and Toronto Toronto Rangers

All those teams can make it again next year Totally Philly Yep Believe it Florida Believe it Tampa

Believe it Buffalo Maybe New Jersey Don't believe it Who knows? Detroit? Eh.

No. They always pull rabbits out of their heads. Like, who haven't I mentioned? Islanders didn't miss by that much. Who's bad in the East? Anyone? Arizona. Oh, no.

No, no. Winnipeg. Who's bad in the East? Who almost made the playoffs, by the way? Montreal without Carey Price. Oh, well, there you go. That's it. So we've come up with one hypothetical team.

It's a tough, tough, tough conference. Jesus, the East is monstrous. Also, the Canucks, two years in a row, get screwed. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, they're drafting fifth. They finished second last, and now they're drafting fifth. And all of a sudden, tanking doesn't work. Yeah.

Did you read that? Tanking doesn't work, guys. No, no, it doesn't work. But it's just last year. I could have swore I heard it worked. I could have swore. No, tanking doesn't work. Rebuilding works.

There's a difference. They both work. They both work. Tanking gives you the best odds you lost. Imagine if you hadn't tanked where you'd be picking Imagine if Vancouver had picked Ehlers or Nylander Instead of Vertanen

There you go Where would they be now They'd be like wow we've got this great young Swedish guy to build stuff around Eller's Swedish right Danish Danish We've got this great young Scandinavian kid to build things around

You know that's Oh just cause he's got blonde it yeah i know um yeah it's so silly okay and if you do it again next year you might win hey next year you might miss the playoffs by one point and then win the lottery then what like the thing with the oilers winning year after year after year was it was a fluke it was a fluke like i tried to think of a better system and then i was like wait what were the odds what were the sheer odds that would happen and the answer was

very teeny tiny and it happened and so we're going to change the whole system because of a fluke, a random fluke Sportsnet did an article on what would have happened if and I think this was Luke Fox, forgive me Luke if it's not you he's had a great year too

oh man, he's on fire Luke Fox jukebox on Twitter if you want to follow him he did rankings if every draft year had gone like this year had gone what the last few years would have been. So, like, I think Patrick Laine would be a, or Auston Matthews would be a flame.

Niall Yakupov would have been a leaf. Like, it's crazy. Like, just, like, if things had moved the way they did. So, it was just a funny year. But that's the whole point of the draft lottery. It's a lottery. And didn't I call this last show? I said something stupid was going to happen.

No, three stupid things happened. Three! Also, poor Vegas, finishing sixth. I don't feel that bad for them. Sucks for Vegas. I feel worse for Colorado. Like, Vegas knows they're going to be bad. They know.

They know. Colorado is guaranteed to be bad. And this is a weak draft year. Compared to last year and the year before, but who knows? Every time I hear that, we don't fucking know. Some gems always come out. Yep. Every year.

You don't know the answer. We used to say five years. I think it's like six or seven. Hey, where was Nazem Khadri drafted? What was his ranking? Ninth. What was Morgan Riley's? Fifth.

What was Mitch Marner's? Fourth. What was William Nylander's? Eighth. Right. Did I win? So Vancouver, Vancouver and Colorado still have a chance at guys like that. They don't have the second pick, though, Adam.

They're not going to get Nolan Patrick, Nico Herscher. There's not even a— Oh, my God, Jesse Pui-Arvey. Gee, that sucks. I know. Like, really. You can There are multiple ways to build a team

Like one of the reasons Pittsburgh's done so well in these playoffs Is a third rounder Who Like went to school and they had in the AHL most of the year Is scoring at the rate of like Maurice Richard

Like Jake Gensel is on fire Yeah they got Crosby yeah they got Malkin But you need those other players too Even a guy like Connor Sheery Out of nowhere Out of nowhere, and he hasn't had the greatest stretch run, and Brian Rust, same thing, but Jesus, they just got Daniel Sprong, so they're losing guys, and they're gaining guys. There's a reason Pittsburgh's in the position they are.

Brilliant. So Pittsburgh model my ass? No, Pittsburgh model's pretty good. They got lucky in a couple respects, but it's the lottery. Yep. That is what it is, right? Should we fault them? the Stanley Cup favorite

Winnipeg Jets will be drafting 13th it's all we can talk about Tampa Bay it's all we can talk about is how much we thought Winnipeg was going to be in

did you read that Detroit was one ball away Detroit and I think Vancouver yeah both were one ball away

that sucks for Vancouver but Toronto was one ball away from winning Connor McDavid yeah yeah Montreal was one ball away from winning Austin Matthews they didn't though

did they holy shit I'm so glad we listen I would have been I would have been so sad they would be in the playoffs

right now dominating they'd be the cup favorites yeah oh yeah Michel Therrien would still be coach yep

no he would he would have benched Austin Matthews let's put him on the wing yeah that's right oh my god he's on the same line

with Galchenyuk David Desjardins in the middle this Austin Matthews he lacked respect yeah I also they would have

never traded no no they would have traded Austin Matthews by now yeah oh yeah for sure For Dwight King

Alex Burrows Yeah Alex Burrows And Dwight King Alex Burrows is still In the playoffs Tampa Bay Lightning I think this is important Tampa Bay drafting 14th

I'm so glad They didn't win Me too Oh my god They should be in the playoffs Will be in the playoffs Next year Will be

Kucherov Goes on that rant And Vasilevsky Backs him up He says You know Sometimes the truth hurts Again Russians

I'm with them I'm with them I am not You have one of the best teams in the National Hockey League Stop fucking this up Why are you trying to cause strife Within your team No man sometimes you just need people to be straight up and honest with you

I guess But I hope like Alex Killorn If we were right there I hope that's the only guy you're alienating I hope it's like If it's Alex Killorn And we're just using him as an example Let's say it's Alex Killorn

I hope Alex Killorn takes a good long hard look in the mirror as to why he performed the way he did. Me too, but if someone is a really good friend of his, you don't like people talking shit about your friend Who gives a shit, man? You're there to win! You know what? Adam, rightly or wrongly, it could cause a rift. I'm just saying.

Rightly or wrongly. You also don't need to say that in the media. You don't have to. You don't have to. You can say it to him. Go up to him and be like, Alex, you fucking stink. You stunk this year. What the hell? Ryan O'Reilly embarrassed his team in front of the media, and sometimes it's a good thing. Sometimes you gotta call people out.

Well, they haven't played a game since he did it. I guess that's true. So we don't know. They haven't won a single game since he said that, Adam. Jesse, I know you wanted to say something. I don't want to make a job. I screamed over it. I think Jesse and I are in the same boat.

Just because, here's the thing. Sometimes, when I'm in radio, sometimes my boss has to look at me and Jesse's in these meetings and go, that wasn't good enough. Yeah, but he doesn't say it over the air, Adam. Okay, fair. but there's a lot less at stake in my position than there is in that position. And I think Nikita Kucherov, to me, that's a leader I want to follow because at least he's honest.

At least you know where he stands. And at least he's Nikita Kucherov. Yeah, and he's a great player, too. I don't want to hear some plug say that. If Kucherov says it, well, okay. Arguably should have been nominated for the Hart, wasn't it? Yeah, who was that? Crosby, McDavid, Bob?

Yeah, Bob. Bob has the Vesna now because you can't be nominated for the Hart and not get the Vesna. Jesse's 100%, right? I think it goes to C. McD. I think so, too. Only 100 points score. Well, it's most valuable to your team. And he is, there's no question, he's the most valuable player on this team.

We've seen Pittsburgh perform without Sidney Crosby. We've seen the Oilers. We've seen the Oilers fall flat on their face without Connor McDade. For seven years. Yeah, he's for sure. Last year when he got hurt. Hey, they might be doing okay. Oh, and he's back.

Listen man I also think Tampa's got a brilliant scouting department So they're going to do a lot with this 14th pick What's interesting to me Is you got Arizona Who had a bad year too And they're drafting 7th

That sucks I like John Chayka's take on it Well first he made a face He made a face And he was just like But he's like Well last year we got Clayton Keller

They got Clayton Keller 7th And he looks like he's going to be great And they had Dylan Strome And he's like okay if we get another Clayton Keller that's wonderful That's a great way to look at it Great way to handle it Tim Murray take notes I'm disappointed for our fan base

We got Jack Eichel Son of a bitch By the way The Bills also fired All of their coaching staff and GM Well that was before the Sabres though right No, it just happened. Oh, I thought Rex Ryan was...

Oh, because they didn't tell the GM that they were firing the coach. The GM must have known at that point. Yeah, I'm toast. But they did it the day after the draft. Why? What's up with that? Did you hear, by the way, the NFL draft is so goofy. For teams that are run so well and so much money into that league,

the NFL draft is crazy. We went through the Jared Goff, St. Louis slash L.A. Rams trade, which was bananas. that literally would be like trading three first round draft picks for a guy that's going to score you 40 points in 80 games. Like, I don't think Jared Goff

is going to be a great... I don't think he was ever projected to be a great quarterback. And I don't know that he ever will be. It's like picking Mike Komiseric in the top 10. Yeah. I mean, he'll be Mike Komiseric,

but should you be picking him that high? Yeah, exactly. Or trading up to do that. Or Freddie Gauthier in the first round, too. The Chicago Bears... Okay, but... The Chicago Bears moved up to the second pick, I think, overall.

pretty sure and the story that came out after was the GM just didn't tell the coach just didn't in fact let me bring up

the NFL draft NFL draft okay the NFL draft is like Woodstock it's also they held it

in front of a museum this time in Philly so it was like an outdoor festival it was literally the Coachella

of football or the fire festival it went a little better than the fire festival it went a little better yes Okay, did all those people get home? Yeah, they're home now.

Instead of giving them their money back, they offer them the opportunity to buy tickets for next year. Isn't that great? Wait, they didn't get their money back? You can get your money back or you can buy tickets for next year. I can't believe they're going to do another one.

There's going to be a class action lawsuit for $150 million. Every now and then, and you never know when it's going to happen, a phenomenon just captures the attention of everybody on Twitter I couldn't get anything accomplished that day

I couldn't get anything accomplished I was just like I keep learning new things I keep learning look at the catering look at the tents and then they went into the guy who organized it

just some 25 year old billionaire how? he's like I'm going to be friends with Ja Rule I'm going to get him into this scheme

I'm going to throw a festival where is Ja? I'm going to serve singles oh my god imagine you worked your whole life

and the only person you can partner with is Ja Rule. Yeah. Like, that sucks, man. So, here's the thing. The Bears traded

a lot. The Bears. The Bears traded a lot. They traded... The Bears. For the second overall pick, they traded to San Francisco the third overall pick.

They moved up one position. What? Then they traded... They also traded their third round pick, which is 67th overall. their 4th round pick which is 111th overall and their 2018 3rd round pick

and they were already sitting at 3rd they were sitting at 3rd so San Fran, I don't know if you've ever seen Draft Day it's kind of a cheesy movie but you can really give the gears to people below you right? who's the guy you're going after? yeah we're going to pick him so you better cough it up right?

so to move up one spot they gave up all that now here's the best part, Chicago already has a starting quarterback in Mike Glennon Now, it's debatable as to how good Mike Glennon is I don't know if he's a Hall of Famer But they had already said to him Hey man, you're our starting QB

They move up one spot And get, I think his name is Trubisky Yeah, Mitchell Trubisky And he's a quarterback? And he's a quarterback And so you've pissed off the QB You didn't tell the head coach that you pissed him off too And you just piled a whole bunch of assets

Into the San Francisco 49ers pocket And the best part about this Is even the 49ers were like afterwards, they were like, we can't believe that they did that. We're not really sure why. Help me out. As a non-NFL fan, how many good football teams are there? Like six?

Because that's what it seems like. There's a lot of teams at nine and nine, right? Or seven and nine, whatever. Every time I hear anything about football, it's like look at what this stupid team did and the Patriots. That's all I ever hear. There's teams that are just always good, so the Steelers are

always good. The Patriots are always, they're not just good, they're always great. And then you've got... Seattle's always in there, right? Recently. They were bad for a lot of years, though. But yeah, for sure, recently they've been very, very good. You've got Green Bay.

Aaron Rodgers. It doesn't matter how bad the team around him is, he's still Aaron Rodgers. Cam Newton's team. Carolina? No? They had one good year. And they were horrendous last year. One historically good year.

Yeah. And then, yeah, they weren't good. They may have been punching above their weight class. Oh, dear. A few teams have done that recently. But there are a few teams, you're right, that are always good. The Bengals are always good, but they always... There was a huge story out of Cincinnati.

The guy that they drafted two years ago punched a woman in the face, and it was caught on camera. Oh, I heard about that. And you put him on a team with Adam Pacman-Jones, who has had his domestic violence thing, and Vontaze Burfecht, who is an asshole on and off the field. And there are people in Cincinnati going, fuck it. I cannot cheer for this team anymore based on these personalities.

Like, even the newspapers there were like, we get that he's a good player. It doesn't matter. He's a bad person. And it's interesting to see that switch happening, right? Because that, I don't know if 15 years ago that would have been the reaction. I think 15 years ago it would have been like, yeah, it was bad, but that was a couple years ago, and, you know, we're going to sweep that under the rug.

But I think now that you can basically pull up any newspaper article ever written at any time, people are far more educated and a little bit less sympathetic. I think it's easier when the team isn't good. I didn't see too many people just drop the Blackhawks. I saw some, and they missed out on a cup as a result. But, I mean, it is what it is, right? I get dropping the player and not the team, too. You can do that.

Can you? I guess it depends on the player. It's a gray area. Listen, if I grew up in Chicago, I could choose not to be a fan of that player and still be a fan of that team, I think. I hope I don't have to decide. Yeah, I'm hoping that too.

Anyway, the NFL draft is goofy. If you don't follow it, if you're an NFL fan, you already know this, but if you don't follow the NFL draft, read all the articles. It's crazy, some of the stories that come out. And it's crazy what leaks in the NFL. How does this make it to Adam Schefter?

How does he get all of this stuff? Well, there's more people, right? There is, but there's not a team that locks it down. like the Patriots sort of do there's no Lou no Lou and the Patriots are interesting

because they never they they're very much like what the Leafs are trying to be and I think being successful at they find role guys

so the Patriots will draft and they're always at the bottom of the you know they're always drafting 30th and 60th and 90th or whatever

but they go out and they sign a bunch of undrafted free agents afterwards which the Steelers do too and they go and get guys that are role guys

so it's like here's what I want you to do I want you to be able to run this route better than anybody in the NFL and I know you have the talent to do it

so Bill Belichick will go in there and say here's your role this is your role do this one thing one thing do this one thing

and they do that one thing and oh my god how are the Patriots still always so good because they keep finding the guys with defined roles that can succeed

I want to say it was Anthony Petrelli on Twitter who's a really clever follow really smart guy particularly with hockey but he was talking about how supposedly

the Seattle Seahawks um you know some teams value a player who's able to do this do that or do that they specifically went after guys who had crazy stories of adversity like coming from nowhere like a guy there supposedly one guy i think had to reteach himself how to walk at like 16 uh something with the family Something like guys who can overcome I guess I mean It makes sense right

This didn't beat them So I'm sure the linemen for this team won't beat them It's character guys Watch out by the way for the Oakland soon to be somewhere else Raiders Marshawn Lynch Marshawn Lynch is coming back and that already was a very good team

They are going I think they're going to run They're going to run people over Can you just disappear from a sport for like a year and come back? When you're Marshawn Lynch, you can. Yeah? He's also, he grew up there. He was a Raiders fan growing up.

So you think he's going to be like extra Marshawn Lynch? I think he'll have, I think he'll be fresher. Because he won't have a year of wear and tear on his body. He's given himself time to relax and to, yeah. Build some houses. Yeah, and I don't think he's going to be back for long. He might just be back for the one year, but you want to play for the Raiders. Do you want the draft movement from the NHL?

The NHL draft? Yeah, so New Jersey was 4-1. Philly was 12-2. Wow! So where they finished the standing versus where they got the draft. Philly was 12-2. Dallas was 7-3. Colorado was 1-4.

Well, Vegas, Vegas. Vancouver was 2-5. And Arizona was 3-7. That sucks. Now, we have heard, and the reason I'm bringing up the NFL first round is because when the NHL first round happens, it is pretty rare that we see any pick in the top ten move. Like, the last one I could really remember being a big one

was the Cory Schneider for the ninth pick, which was Bo Horvat. Yeah, Luke Shen before that. But what was... Like, we don't see a lot... I think it was Jeff Merrick that said only 6% of those first round picks even ever move. Of the top ten?

I think so, yeah. I think it was 6%. Where's the damn Lord? Anyway, I heard it on Sportsnet. Um, what, what are we going to see this year? Like I said, it's wide open. Do you think that we're going to see a little bit more movement? Um, are we going to see a team that falls in love with a player and moves up for him

or is the NHL just not built that way? Uh, I, I think there's going to be a little bit more movement this year because what happens in a quote unquote weak draft year is there's always some teams that are more convinced that it's weaker than others and teams that are like, no bullshit. shit, this is a great draft. And they might fall in love with a guy or whatever, and teams will be trying to gather all the firsts they can, all the seconds they can.

They think some guy. Imagine if it's a weaker draft or a more even draft, and you fall in love with a guy, and you have him ranked second round. And it doesn't sound like anyone's going to take him, and so you push it to the third. And then it's the fourth. and you manage to snag that guy in the sixth.

Like, are you going to want to load up on earlier picks, later picks? I don't know. And Vegas is obviously the big wrench. If the Leafs take that 17th slash 18th pick and they trade down, that doesn't mean they think it's a weak draft, right? No. Because they've done that. I think that means they think it's a strong draft.

If you think it's a strong draft, you want to get more picks. If you think it's a weak draft, you want to get fewer picks because you have your five or six guys, and you want to target those guys, right? So, yeah, if they get more picks, which, I don't know. The Leafs kind of have what they have. I'm not sure they need to really go for quantity anymore. They drafted so many players last year.

They're kind of loaded down. They're not even playing in the organization yet. We don't have enough roster spots. There's literally not enough spots. I look at the Marlies and I go, how is Jeremy Bracco going to make this team? Jeremy Bracco's going to make the Marlies. Of course he is, but then who leaves? How is Carl Grunstrom going to make this team?

I was saying to someone the other day, if I'm Tobias Lindbergh's agent, I'm going, please trade my player. Please. I remember when he came in and he looked pretty good on the Marlies. Of course he did. He scored NHL points for the Leafs. Tumbled down the draft chart because it's a deep organization. I don't know if he's a healthy scratch or if he's hurt.

I think he's hurt. But, like, I look at the lineup. Okay, like, even if he's not hurt, like, I'm like, I don't think they really need him. Like, if I'm a winger who doesn't play every day for the Marlies or I'm on, like, the fourth line perennially and my name's not Dmitry Temeshov because I'm a brand new guy there, please trade my client.

Please. Send him somewhere who could use him. Like, send him somewhere who needs a winger. Wouldn't it be nice to be traded to the Vegas organization? Like, Las Vegas, I think, I've spoken to some people who are like, well, they're starting from nothing, starting from scratch, so you might want to go after more picks. I mean, you could expedite your team,

your ascension from what all expansion teams are, which is garbage. You could expedite that. Like, could you get one of the Marlies wingers for, like, a fourth? Okay, what about a third? All right, what about maybe a fourth and a fifth? What about, what about, what about? I don't know, I'm just saying. Yep, absolutely.

Interesting to watch. We've got the Senators tonight. They, just quietly, because they've taken a backseat to everything else that's gone on. The Ottawa Senators are up 2-0 on the New York Rangers. Did you guys watch game two? Part of it. The crazy game? The 6-5 game?

I heard Eric Carlson Limp down the tunnel And we know his foot's broken Because he said it Fractured Fractured And I believe the Rangers

Were winning And then I went to a restaurant To pick up food I looked up at the TV And the Sens had won 6-5 in overtime What happened? Peugeot had four goals?

What? What? What happened? What happened in that game? He went off In the third period Yeah And they came back

And then he scored the overtime one. Eric Carlson can't play every game in these playoffs, can he? There's no way. He will. We know his foot's fractured. He will. I don't know, man. And the second he does, they're done.

Like, I don't know if they win a game without him. Really? Yeah. Yeah, he's been so good. Oh, I know he's been so good, but you don't think they're deep enough? Because I think they are. I think they play a different style without him. They're a fine team.

Oh, get ready for paint drying. if Guy Boucher's Ottawa Senators are without Eric Carlson. Oh, my God! Just assassinating the sport. I think it's a shame that Guy Boucher... With a plastic box opener. It's a shame that only three coaches

could be nominated for the Jack Adams because I think Guy Boucher should absolutely be nominated. We didn't expect you to be this good, Award. And is there a team like the Senators? The Senators were not supposed to be in the playoffs. But they're supposed to be decent, so I guess the jump isn't high enough. Nobody knew what they were, right?

Yeah, it is ridiculous. Better than the Leafs. But the Leafs were expected to do worse. It's all about expectation. The leap isn't high enough. Guy Boucher is a great coach. Yep. He's a great coach.

He knows how to make his team win, which is what he's paid to do. He's not paid to entertain the fans. In the words of Rob Rossi, he knows how to get the best out of his players. Unlike Barry Trucks. Unlike Barry Trucks. Who is a piece of shit, I learned. The Predators with noted clown P.K. Subban. We're finally here.

We're finally here. Finally here. Are up 2-1 against the St. Louis Blues. Now let's talk about Mike Milbury's comments. And let's ignore the fact that P.K. Subban played out of his mind in the first game of the series. And has played very well since. And as has his team. They look pretty scary.

Like they should. Because they're scary. P.K. Subban dancing enjoying the music and warm up dancing and not even like

obnoxiously just a little back and forth swing and for some reason they point him out and they bring him on NBC and they put him in front of

Mike Milbury and Mike Milbury says you know I'm glad that I've got personalities in the game I need the game needs more personality it's a little bit conservative

but you know acting like a clown like that I guess I could pull up the you might as well Refresh everyone's memory It's been a few days I can tell you don't want to talk about this He also clarified his comments

He did So let's play the clip And do you have the excerpt? Yes Okay, so we'll play the clip Let's do the original Without comment, we'll read that Do you have the clip?

Do you have the clip? Yeah, I can bring it up Can you just send it to me? Yeah Feed it to the system Another Puck Daddy piece That we saw Jen Neal basically wrote, screw Mike Milbury.

We need to get him out of the sport. Yes. It was pretty passionate. The hockey writers also had up Mike Milbury is a clown. So everybody's kind of going at him. Let's listen to the clip. That also has his comments, so you can read those as well. Okay, so let's listen to this.

And we'll start with those comments, with Milbury's comments, that is. so that way we can hear it in its full contextual you don't want to misrepresent him yeah a lot of people he misrepresents himself

constantly PK's got a tremendous personality and sometimes you gotta keep it under control this worries me I know it's a new

day and age and everybody wants to be on Instagram or Twitter or whatever but you gotta keep focused this is a tough game when I see this

I start to think maybe Peter Lavioletta ought to just give him a rap on the head and say hey PK We got a game tonight Focus in

You don't need to be A clown out there And he will He's been a clown In the past We've seen him Act like a clown When he's serious

Focused He's one hell of a player How funny is the We know everybody Wants to be on the Insta snap On the insta nets When Mike Milbury

Talks There should There should be Background music Seriously Play that clip again Play that clip again pk's got a tremendous personality and sometimes you gotta keep it under control this worries me

i know it's a new day and age and everybody wants to be on instagram or twitter or whatever shut the fuck up if you see the clip that they use he's dancing for literally like three seconds like it's not long and he's just going he's just an up and down sort of thing remember when carlisle supposedly gave margan riley shit for the same thing when he was singing during warm-up i have a theory about dancing in a warm-up. Oh, my dear God. So, anyway, Jen Neal's point.

Okay, Rob Ross, he can go nuts. And I don't even remember the name of the organization that he works for. So, ultimately, he's a peripheral figure. Yes, he's in the Pro Hockey Writers Association, which I don't think he should be after shit like that. And he does have an impact, but it's not

the largest. Mike Milbury is on NBC! And we've been through this before i don't take him seriously outside of him saying that shit about pk subambi and a clown he is widely regarded as the worst general manager in nhl history you can't tell me shit you don't mike you're an expert of what managing teams or like what is your expertise here squandering the one of the best islanders like some of the best farm systems in the NHL. The Yashin trade, Mike.

The Luongo trade's even worse. The Luongo trade, Mike. The Kravaca and Parrish for Luongo. Everyone goes to the supposed incident where he may have assaulted a 12-year-old, which I think got thrown out, so I won't touch it. Then there's

the hitting a fan with a shoe. His own shoe. Yes, with his own shoe, which was incredible. I don't need to touch that to talk about how Mike Milbury is bad at talking about hockey. His opinion stinks. His resume...

I mean, okay, he's been a player, he's been a coach, he's been a GM. Supposedly he was a decent coach, but like, fuck, he's not entertaining. Who's watching? Hey, everyone, shut up! Mike Milbury's on! Who's doing that? For the casual fan, I think it's the most dangerous of all. Yes.

because you've got a guy, quite frankly, and he has come out and said he regrets the clown comments. Yeah, can we read that before we continue? I'll read it in a sec. Okay, sure, sure. Because I think it's important that we state that. Well, that's nice that you regret it, but you, in that moment, were very much convinced

that that was the right word to use and that this was a legitimate thing that you were putting forward. You used clown, what, four or five times in that 30-second clip? Mike Milbury believed it. The only reason Mike Milbury regrets it is because of the backlash. Now, his apology sounds a lot like if you're in elementary school and you punch another kid, your apology is, I'm sorry you got hurt.

Yes. Not I'm sorry for punching you. Let me pull the... I'm trying to find the actual apology. I think I had it up. Oh, shoot. Should we pause? Okay, here we go.

Oh, there we go. Yeah, yeah. He said when they talk about the clown and how Peter Laviolette should give him a rap on the head, Milbury said, that's right. And actually, given the kerfuffle over this, I regret the use of that terminology. I wish I had said something different.

I wish I'd used the word distraction. Do you think this is a distraction? No, it's fucking not a distraction. That probably would have been, if I had a mulligan, a phrase, I would probably use that phrase. Regardless, it's still a shitty point, man. It's not good. It's less insulting, I suppose, but it's still dumb.

It's people, it's the same thing as Ovechkin meant to shoot the puck at Hainsey's head. Oh, fuck, which we still haven't gotten to. There are players that are just targeted. They're just targeted. Nobody thinks. Nobody with a brain. Did people say this about Jeremy Roenick when he skated on the ice alone and did a dance? No.

No, no. Or that he left, when he was playing for the, was it Arizona Coyotes? he like left the game that he was scratched from and went and had dinner at a steakhouse? What? Has nobody talked about that?

Jeremy Roenick left the arena during the team's game after he was scratched and went and ate dinner at a steakhouse. I've never heard that. That's a real story. I wasn't playing.

Wait, that was his thing. Well, I was watching the game from the bar. Yeah, that's fine. No,

it's not. What's the difference? In the NHL, you have to be in the press box. You know what? I can get behind that a little bit. That's kind of funny.

Listen, I'm not saying that I disagree with what he did because who did but I well actually yeah no like straight up

I freaking do disagree with what he did you stay there and you watch your damn team nope you're right where was where was Joffrey Lupo that's a different

situation he is that's different he's hurt he's hurt and he's healing himself with the power of music and Lou doesn't like

injured players around the team Lou has a policy about that yes he wasn't scratched he's hurt it's different so here's the thing Milbury

for the casual fan like again if you listen to this show you are the 1% So you're a very smart hockey fan, probably smarter than all of us, know a lot about your team know a lot about the league, know a lot about advanced stats

know a lot about that sort of thing You know that what Mike Milbury says is 99% of the time just baloney But Joe Burlington or Joe Scranton doesn't know

that For the casual fan Mike Milbury's an old white guy Who is very entertaining to watch Is he? Yeah he is He's entertaining to watch for sure You don't like it because of what he says

But don't tell me that Mike Milbury Doesn't have charisma Because he does No Yes he does Steve What's charisma? Charisma is magnetism

He's watchability Rob Rossi Every time he's on the TV I make a face like someone farted That's because of what he's saying No Yes Steve yes

Rob Rossi doesn't have the charisma That Mike Mulberry has Mike Mulberry has enough charisma to be on TV His delivery He's bad, he's a writer I can be hired I will tutor you I will video blogging tutor you

So my point in saying that is that Mike Mulberry is a guy Who's big and bluster and whatever And if you don't know the sport that deeply and you're getting into it You might take Mike Mulberry's opinion as Well he's an expert on TV He might know what he's talking about And a lot of people do And that's not good

The scary thing about some of the garbage that I see on Facebook You know who's on Facebook? Old people That's who rules Facebook now And hateful old people Holy shit Who I don't think were hateful Before they read some of this crap on Facebook Not a lot of them

Can't tell the difference between fake news Some of the stuff Oh you know what I read and I'm like oh Jesus Christ I have to explain that that's not real Like yeah anyway I've eliminated family members from my Facebook page because I can't.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, so Mike Milbury. I don't know. I just, I don't need, I don't need to take his opinion seriously and I don't think he should be given

a national platform. The key is that someone might and he is given a national platform and paid a lot of money. That's nuts. That's the best. That's the best.

Well, it's not. It's not the best. No, but if you're on a national platform, you're the best and that's the best. It's not the best. So let's find the best.

Well, the best, and I'm gonna be a homer here the best are Kip Rios and Elliot Friedman and they're taken and Jeff Merrick and they're taken and they're here

in the States that's the best well you've got I need American listeners to help me out Kevin Weeks and Keith Jones and uh

well Keith Jones is on with Millbury sometimes Mike Johnson's there too now I think so yeah part time Ray Ferraro sometimes goes in cause he does games for TSN

and for them Catherine Tappan I think so I think so also um i mean god there are there are better options for sure canadian ones that you could pilfer absolutely just for the love of god like that's that can't be the best and it should be about the best let's find the best no one is tuning into nbc because of mike no one's like everyone turn it off are you sure gotta be are you sure on really sure

i know see the preds just had record-breaking ratings was that on nbc i don't know or was it because like it's the preds they're a very exciting team and they're deep in the playoffs i refuse to believe that's the best we can do people tune in or used to tune in to skip payless when he was on espn they don't anymore because they're sick of his shit but steven Smith who sometimes makes good points other times not is a blustery charismatic guy who sometimes

doesn't convey any information at all but yells at the camera so people watch. He slips up. Fair enough. I just feel like with him it's kind of the same situation right? They might tune in because he's just a blustery entertaining guy. There are sometimes you go to a party and you're like

this guy's an idiot but you pay attention just because he's an idiot. You know what I mean? that's so it's okay so the intermission is just like watching jackass you take the same thing away you go what a fucking idiot he's in he's in there wearing he's wearing nothing but red body paint and he's running in there with a bunch of bulls what an idiot this guy thinks pk subhan's a clown what an idiot like i that's not why i'm watching i'm watching for like analysis I'm not watching Steve-O getting catapulted in a port-a-potty

it's a little bit different I mean there's still shit flying everywhere I also would like to throw something out here if, okay so say the three of us are on a panel we're on a, make it happen if I said something like that in intermission what are your responses

the two of you? Adam, what the fuck Jesse, yeah I would say you're an idiot did anybody say anything? and that would have been far better television wouldn't it have yeah where's the counterpoint there's gotta be a counterpoint there

someone makes a I wanna say it was Keith Jones later in the clip was like totally like that's not that's not your TV yeah no wouldn't it be great to have someone in there maybe younger maybe it doesn't matter they don't have to be

they could be the exact same age could be his brother could be a family member and just goes, what are you talking about? Mike, what are you talking about? Can you imagine? What are you talking about? What's the matter with you? He's got this many goals. He's got this many assists. The Preds are winning this series.

What are you talking about? That would be way better programming, wouldn't it? Are people too afraid to step up to Mike? What for? It could be that. It could be the fact that maybe he's got sway there and if you

undress him on national television, that could put your career in jeopardy? I don't know. That is full-on... I'm just hypothesizing. I've seen situations where that's the case. Totally, totally. Adam knows what went down

in the Capitals locker room. That's right. And Barry Trotz asked people to slice Sidney Crosby's head off. So, what you didn't see is Matt Neskinen's stick. He dimmed the lights. Yeah.

And put a flashlight under his chin. And then he handed out a bunch of knives. That's right. Well, Matt Neskinen's stick isn't a hockey stick. It's actually a katana. So, just so you know. Oh, here we go.

Here's what we're going to do to Sidney Crosby, everybody. So, Alex, you're going to go in there, and should the opportunity present itself, you're going to kind of slash him in the arm a little bit. Now, you're going to be very trot, so you've got to be all shoulders. So your shoulders need to be up near your ears. All right. He's all shoulders.

Can you see my eyebrows going all over the place? For anyone listening, Steve has turned down the lights, and he is shining his cell phone on his face like a flashlight. You should do it to the camera. And then Niskanen is going to cross-check him in the brain. There you go. And then the next step is victory. Oh, Adam guided the microphone towards me.

Anyway. I just forgot to talk into a microphone, so I'm not saying I should take this place. But someone should. Even in the response, Mike says, oh, the kerfuffle that came out after it, now I regret. I regret saying it because of the kerfuffle. I don't regret saying what I said. And you know what? I just don't.

What is this? there's this phantom you're not focused that surrounds a bunch of players this phantom like LeBron's one of them

it like before LeBron won there were so many people like yeah he doesn't have the focus to win he just doesn't have it like

there's just guys that we pick and go that's the guy that we're gonna create shit around do you think LeBron takes a sip of beer against the Raptors

if it's a close game no he did it because holy shit they're killing him is there a player who during a play seems more focused

than P.K. Subban? No. Like, the guy's a maniac on the ice. Yeah. He's the kind of guy I want on my team. He had 43 points

in 60 games. But he's not focused. But that's just points. That's just points. That's just points. What about his focus? What about... Never mind.

I was going to bring up Shea Weber. You're able to have a conversation about P.K. Subban without bringing up Shea Weber. Point being,

dumb point it's not the first time he's made a point like this I wish people would just stop shitting on P.K. Subban I wish people would just stop giving Mike Milbury a national platform

and I wish we could just watch this sport and get along I wish Alexander Ovechkin would stop shitting pucks at Ron Hainsey's head that bothers me now that was interesting

so a lot of people seem to think that Josh Yohi who is a Pittsburgh writer and one of the many Pittsburgh fans have told me to

just blatantly ignore why are you calling me? I did not mean to. How the hell did I pull that off? I don't know. Anyway. People seem to be implying that he was implying that Ovechkin shot the puck at Hainsey's head on purpose. What it sounded like he said from the excerpt that I read was the Penguins players implied to him that they think Ovechkin shot at Hainsey's head on purpose.

One of the greatest goal scorers of all time Greatest goal scorer of this generation Shot a puck at 36-year-old Ron Hainsey's head on purpose I just don't think that's plausible No I just, man Was that part of the players only meeting too? Alright, Ron Hainsey, good start

But I think we should go after someone who's a little bit more important Sidney Crosby Was that like a Three Stooges sketch? Ron Hainsey, good start We need to go after someone even more important. Nicholas Backstrom's like, yeah, boss. Let's go after Brian Rust. No, you idiots.

I'm talking to you, nincompoop. I'm talking about Sidney Crosby. Oh, that's why you're the capital, Vegeka, because you're so smart. Why I ought to. To the moon. All right, now, I want to give, not only do we need to pour one out for the avalanche this episode. I'm changing topics on us quick here. This is a quick right turn. We need to

pour one out for the Avalanche Twitter account. Are you following the Avalanche Twitter account? Aw, they were so sad. Oh my god. So let me read some of the tweets from the Colorado Avalanche Twitter account in the last week, week and a half. Here. Okay, yeah, go ahead. Matt Duchesne led the NHL in face-off

percentage with 62.57% this season. Good job! Matt Duchesne. Very, very good. Good job, Doucher. Oh. That's a foggy name Despite injury Johnson

I'm assuming Eric Johnson I assume so too Ranked third Among our defensemen With 17 points That's not good Despite injury

He's still third That's bad That was the number one thing To highlight about Eric Johnson Not all the facts That the That the Avs put out there

By the way Are based on On any sort of stat Like Say Zdorov is only our second player with the last name that starts with the letter Z

or Z for our American listeners. Here. What is that? What is that? I got 54 fucking retweets. What is that? Can you read all the tweets

and we won't interrupt you, okay? And just read them one by one, no commentary, okay? All right. I'm just gonna... Cody Goluboff dressed in 32 games for us this season. Nobody got that name right.

John Mitchell won 55.4% of his face-offs this season. Carl Soderbergh played 80 games this season, tallying 14 points. Why would they do that to Carl Soderbergh? What did he do to them? Hang on, hang on, Steve. I'm going to bring up more. I YouTubed it, and this is an hour and a half

of sad music you'll never forget. Hang on, I'm trying to find some tweets here. I'm so sorry. This spring, number 92 is suiting up for Team Sweden. There's a lot of gallows stuff here. Lannisgaard played in his 400th NHL game on February 14th. Lannisgaard did every post-game interview he was asked to do, win or lose, because that's what captains do.

The captain tied for second on our team in goals with 18 this season. Lannis Gogg is in... Lannis Gogg played in... Sorry, Lannis Gogg played in is his, I'm assuming. Lannis Gogg played in his 400th NHL game on February 14th. He was the first player of the 2011 draft class to reach 400 contests.

Wow. This is so bad. Rantanen led our team with 20 goals this season it's depressing isn't it

we can shut the music off anyway follow the apps for depressing tweets I wish that needed to be more depressing I'm sorry

but there are no no the music oh top most sad songs ever there's a lot of garbage on YouTube

um filled with garbage filled with garbage Picard also set career highs in wins starts and shutouts

mmm mmm Calvin Picard played in 50 games this season for us. A career high. You don't need to tweet these things. When you're the last team

in the NHL in every category and your goalie sets career highs and win starts and shutouts, is that a compliment? No.

Unless, I mean, it's like, well, maybe he actually won some games. It's poor social strategy. They wanted to fill their timeline up. Stop. You don't have to necessarily

And Someone should have been there Again, you need a friend Someone should have been there Hey The guy we just signed a bajillion dollar contract Who had a really disappointing first season Maybe don't highlight the fact that he had

Fewer points than Matt Hunwick In more games Maybe don't highlight that Soderbergh, right? How much did he get signed for? A lot Can we look that up? What's his cat friendly?

Too much. Is it more than 1.5? Too much. Too much. Yikes. Is it more than what you're making? Also, the avalanche right now need to be selling hope. That's right.

Every tweet should be about me, Cor Antonin. Yes. Yeah. And what else is in there? Draft lottery's coming up. Woo! 4.75 until 2020. With a no trade clause

They gotta protect him Yeah, you think Joe Sackett's gonna show up to the expansion draft Like, take them all, I don't give a shit Take them all What's hilarious is that he and He and Jared Bednar Did not get enough of a chance to showcase their skills So they're gonna be around next season too

Which I'm like, whoa, dawg Really? Really? Come on. Come on. One last hot take before we go to the press conference. Leafs will not have a captain next year. That's fine. Who said that? I didn't hear that. I think.

Here's why. I'm basing it on a Mike Babcock comment. They said, is it important to have a captain next year? He's like, no. Also, if you look at the way the Leafs have marketed Austin Matthews, because he's the obvious, him and Morgan Rielly are the guys that are kind of the obvious potentials. They haven't really put him forward on things

He was in none of the team advertising Didn't show up in the Heritage Classic photos He's a rookie Exactly, didn't earn it Connor McDavid on the other hand in Edmonton Like gave him the farm And rightly so He's an amazing NHL player

But they've put so much on him They're both understandable I think the Leafs are going Okay, let's just let Austin Matthews just grow Just let him grow Why would we make a 19-year-old, 20-year-old a captain When he doesn't need to be Do we need a captain?

Do we have leadership by committee? Do we have a coach that's a great leader? Yep. Didn't need a captain to make the playoffs. Like, at any point during the season, was anyone like, if only they had a captain, then this would be special.

Right now. Sure does kill the magic. What a joke. Yeah, it's really killing the magic of their centennial season. Their last to playoff season that one of the guys isn't wearing a C on the front. I don't get it

Who cares Right now it seems like Babcock is their captain And that's fine That's a good captain to have Ask Buffalo So let's do the press conference We have one question The Presser SDP

The Steve Dangle Press Conference Just one? Just one One question It's from throwoutin54 32 1 That is a, wow

Were the other ones taken? I want to read throwoutin0001 I assume his account is a throwoutin account He's gonna throwoutin this account when he's done So he says

I'm emceeing a wedding later this year Oh The second part of his question I don't recommend But he says And need some hockey related inspirational quotes To add to my script Why?

Got any ideas? Now if the bride or groom If it makes sense Given the couple Sure If it doesn't what are you doing? Two parts Help him out with that

And any advice for someone who'd emcee a wedding Well, we've both MZ'd what else? That's why I asked. It's not about you. It is about the bride and groom. Is it? Yeah. I think everything's about Steve.

You don't think it's about the bride and groom? Nope. What's it about? Okay, so who are you giving a speech to? Well, okay, it's to the audience. Bingo. Right, but the focal point, I'm saying, is them. But know who you're talking to.

Bingo. Friends and family. So is it about the bride and groom, then? Never. You can't just be like talk to the cousins and be like, remember that time we played beer pong and you fell over.

Obviously that's the focal point of the speech. But they are not the focal point for the audience, if that makes sense. I'm having a tough time describing this, but the way I would say it is this. When you've been to a wedding and either the best man or the maid of honor gets up and they

talk about a bunch of inside jokes that they have with the bride or groom And they're like, remember that time we went to North Carolina? And here's what you're doing. Remember that time we drank in Vegas? Everything stays in Vegas. Cheesy joke. Play me off, Jimmy.

You must, must keep in mind when you do a speech at a wedding and you MC at a wedding. So that's multiple speeches. That's what an MC does. It's multiple mini speeches. Yes, it is. You are keeping it going, especially as the emcee. You're moving this night along. And including everybody.

Exactly. Inclusive. So if you have hockey-related quotes, unless they're absolutely hilarious and your mother who doesn't know dick about hockey can get down with them and laugh at them, don't include them. Don't do it. Don't do it. I don't think you did any hockey stuff. No. Why?

I don't even think your best man did any hockey stuff. I don't think he didn't. And did I? I don't think I did. No. Because it's not about hockey Yeah it wasn't That day had nothing to do

With hockey And your Scottish relatives Who flew in Weren't going to understand A word of it 100% And there were lots Of hockey motifs

Sure The guest board Was a maple leaf Yeah God you got engaged To the hockey hall of fame Yeah the trivia Was hockey related

Which again Maybe we could have done Differently because Then her family Can't even really participate But It was a great wedding Who cares

There were a bunch of foreigners And I don't trust them anyway Damn right Are you emceeing Adam Wilde's wedding? I haven't asked anybody. Are you going to ask Steve Dangle? I haven't even thought about it, to be honest. I don't know.

Oh, okay. Oh, no, I was asked to emcee another one recently. Oh, were you? Yeah, Matt. You're a good emcee. I can see why. Yeah. It's weird.

In my Sportsnet job interview, they were just like, oh, you're going to emcee a ton of weddings in your life. I'm like, is that a compliment? Did I get the job? Yeah, I think that's a compliment. I was like, what does that mean? It's a good compliment. I think by the end of the summer, I will have emceed like five.

What's your number? My number? Yeah. Of emceeds. It's not your number. I bet you I win. I rarely get asked. I've been asked, I think, once or twice.

I think I've done it twice. Actually, yeah. I think I've only... I've done speeches at multiple weddings, but I think I've only emceed once or twice. Yeah. No, I'm a good speech giver, too, but I just don't get asked. Good speech giver. Whatever.

I think people are probably just tired. My friends are probably tired of hearing me talk because I don't really shut up anyway. So it's probably like Okay we're going to get more of the same of that There are days where we'll talk And then we'll We do the podcast Then I go home and listen to the radio

And I'm like oh there's Adam And then I just want to sit down after being in traffic And I turn on the TV and oh what the fuck there he is Yeah so I just kind of like I think yeah So here's the thing keep this in mind Just include everybody in the room Talk about things that

Everybody's going to understand If you're going to tell a story about the bride or groom make sure that you contextualize properly. Context is the story. Context, context, context. I've got to drive that point home. Hockey might not be the best route to go.

If it's a smaller wedding, then you're all into it. If it's Gary Bettman's wedding, fine. Yeah, yes. I would say don't worry about the whole hockey thing. Yeah, and also, you're asking for funny hockey quotes? Have you listened to a hockey player's interview? There's like three.

if you want to make an inappropriate joke about pucks in deep go ahead but most people are not you miss 100% of the shots

you never take from Wayne Gretzky and related to pregnancy because everybody makes a pregnant joke I just spat everywhere like terrible I had

I've seen some some hilarious jokes fall absolutely flat too don't get too dirty like even the 100% or the you miss 100%

of the shots you never take people have made that joke trust me don't do it not worth it people will not appreciate that it's the hardest place to do well

I would I'm so much more nervous talking in front of friends and family because they know everything yeah and also your audience is like 6 years old to 85

that's why when I emceed your wedding I didn't say much I just kind of kept it moving because I knew the speeches were going to be the shiner So I just kind of came up, said a couple sentences, and then walked away and let the speeches do the speeches, let the speeches breathe. Pretty good speeches.

The point of the MC is to get out of the way of the real talent, which is the speech givers, unless they're doing inside jokes, and that sucks. That really sucks. And also, if you're giving a best man or a maid of honor speech this summer, please, please don't do inside jokes. Please. And if you're getting married this summer, I've been to weddings where each bridesmaid got a speech. No! Are you on drugs? No!

Say it to me in private! Or groomsmen. No. You're all going to say varying forms of the same shit. Yep. Except instead of it taking five to ten minutes, it's going to take, damn it, 45. Yeah, or an hour. Yeah.

What are you doing? We had five at my wedding, and I think that was a lot. They were good speeches, though. Me, father of the bride, my parents, best man, maid of honor. Here's what you do. Actually, that's... Who's the person in your bridal party that is the best at speaking publicly? Give your story to them.

Take a back seat. It's okay. It's okay. Trust me, no one remembers the speech later anyway. And you don't want that kind of pressure on the wedding day anyway. You just want to go and enjoy. So, it's, yeah. My one thing is make sure someone records it.

Yes. Even just on the phone. That was my one regret of my wedding. Get up and read the avalanche tweets. Nobody in the entire wedding recorded it? There were 154 people at my wedding. A bunch of them in media. No one recorded it.

And no one just pulled out their phone. Wow. Yeah. Which is fine, and I didn't ask anyone to. But no, it's just surprising. It was surprising to me too. Well, because I was like, someone's got to record it. That's what I'm sitting here thinking.

But why did I assume that? Because it's a logical thing. Don't assume, I guess, would be the lesson there. there, but part of me likes it a little bit. Because now it just lives in our memory. Yeah, I remember it. I remember how I felt. Memories aren't trustworthy.

Let's not trust our memories here. I remember how I felt in that moment. That's why I go to concerts and I don't record what's going on on stage. You know why? Because who's going to look at that shitty video anyway? Nobody wants to see that on your Instagram. No one cares. Just go, enjoy it, take the feeling that you have there with you

And leave And go that's how That concert made me feel Oh and make sure The bride is catered to 100% Well it's She had the hardest day

Uh yeah Yeah Out of all of you She had the hardest day My recommendation Is to get really drunk And have a great time As the drunk guy

At the wedding Do it Wear a tablecloth As a toga Definitely bring up The time you hooked up With one of the bridal party too That always goes over

I've seen that Yeah Get all your hellos out of the way Too sweet You know what you should do? Just be like, hey Susie And then wink awkwardly And pause for like 30 seconds

And then move on Actually, if you want to know If you want to take some hints On how to pause awkwardly for 30 seconds Check out Rob Rossi's video On Twitter today What does that mean? I've never met him

I think we were criticizing The way in which The message was delivered And the message itself But we weren't criticizing The human being I want to step ahead of that Anyway it was bad

Don't do that Watch that Did we at any point Say Rob Ross is a bad person Because I don't think He's a bad person I just think it was poorly done I don't know anything about him

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