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You know, I learned something from, uh, from last episode.
From last episode?
From last episode.
Where we talked about...
nothing dramatic?
First off, first off...
Baseball most?
According to right-wing Penguins fans, I am a cuck.
I was not ready for that.
I didn't read that.
And according to right-wing Caps fans, you are a cuck.
Oh, I'm a cuck?
Yeah.
Oh.
No, it's actually opposite.
Oh, it's the opposite.
No, because I said it was dirty.
You said it was clean.
Which team, which fan base says which one of us is a cuck out?
Basically, okay, so Washington fans think you're a cuck.
Super uncomfortable.
By the way, I've been called that many times over this.
I thought it was interesting that I could be cuckolded
by the fact that somebody hit somebody on an ice in a different country.
So someone was getting sassy in the comments.
Jesse saw this yesterday, too, of the YouTube video.
And all I said was,
how come people who say these things never seem to spell properly?
Which, holy shit, it's true.
And then they went on an I'm not mad,
this is actually funny
to me rant
oh they weren't mad
oh I bet they weren't
no they weren't mad
and
did I not learn
anything from ESPN
and this leftist
libtard bullshit
is
is what got a bunch
of people laid off
from there
and
no falling cables
and
also
no everybody's
cutting their cables
so they got
no
and also
the fans made me
and
without them
I'd be nothing
well that's true
and I'm gonna fall flat
which is true, except for the last part
and also
fuck you
you're not all of the fans
you're one angry one
this is not, by the way, for everybody getting upset right now
this isn't a political rant, it's just hilarious
that we're just using those words
in everything, in every situation
if you're different than me, you're a cuck
I don't know, anyway
I also found it interesting though
if you look at the way
the fallout and reaction to that hit
since I saw Paul Coffey.
The league needs to look at this!
Yeah, I was...
As if the league wouldn't look at it.
The league needs to look at this.
As if player safety didn't check it out first.
Yeah, right now, Bill Daly's phone is just...
On his bed stand, night stand.
Oh, jeez, I missed this hit.
Oh!
Forgot my charger.
Yep.
Heavens.
You know what?
We'll just tell Matt Neskinen that he doesn't need a hearing.
I'm not even going to look at it though
I'm just not going to look at it
I'm bored, I am hungover
There's no more milk
I gotta go get milk for my cereal
And then after that there's no time
I think one thing that Caps fans, Pens fans
Paul Coffey, Don Cherry
Everybody who had something to say on this
Can agree upon
Is that nobody really knows
Nobody, like objectively speaking
There is no consensus
Yes, but yes
But everybody knows
That was the thing
That was strange to me
It wasn't strange to me if you felt one way or another
I felt one way
Hey Steve, what if it was Austin Matthews?
You'd be pissed
We can get to that
I wasn't confused if you felt one way or another
I felt one way
I could be convinced of the other way
What confused me was people who felt passionately
That it was dirty
Or passionately that it was clean
And Crosby faked it
Which was my favorite.
Oh, that's a good one.
Yeah.
Yes.
Fake that doctor's diagnosis.
In the playoffs.
That's a spank.
He missed game four.
Way to really stick to the plan there, Sid.
Like, Jesus, everybody.
He missed literally five and a half periods.
Yeah, Ovechkin and a bunch of people talking about the Leafs series.
Ovechkin dove and faked it when Kadri hit him.
Did you see the replay?
His knee bent in a fucked up way.
Like, his knee bent the opposite way of the knee.
he was lucky enough to come back.
He hyper-extended it and came back.
I'm like, no, no, no.
Nobody said he hyper-extended it.
Well, I thought he did.
Well, you thought he did.
Yeah.
Did anyone say he did?
I don't know.
And if you hyper-extend a knee,
sorry, if you hyper-extend a knee,
you're not coming back.
Yeah, if it goes straight,
it's one thing.
If it goes just a couple degrees, the other.
He didn't hyper-extend it.
Extend the knee.
Period.
This is where all the medical students
who listen to us go,
ugh.
Well, I mean, it's pretty simple
You hyperextend a knee, you're not coming back
You're not
You're not
You guys have been going off on your little tangent
About this whole situation
Do we have breaking news?
And you're missing
Has Nikita Zaitsev signed for seven more years?
It was actually a 14-year-old sign
Yeah, right
Don Cherry gets to go at him for 14 years now
He must be excited
Yeah, this is what it's like to be a Chicago Blackhawks fan
Let's just sign all the illegal contracts
You've been missing the one key point.
What's the one key point?
Hold on, hold on.
You didn't give that to me in an internet headline.
The one thing that nobody's talking about.
That's what you have to say.
This is the number seven that I won't believe.
Hockey experts hate him.
Jesse knows the one thing that nobody's talking about.
Should Sidney Crosby resign as the face of the NHL?
Is that a question?
By Mark Madden.
What?
Is what you're missing.
Is that a block?
Do you follow Mark Madden?
He has very interesting blogs.
I totally believe that Jesse follows him.
Jesse, that's why you and us all get along so well.
You consume things to hate them.
And you enjoy that they're bad.
I 100% disagree with that.
So would she.
And you're both wrong.
You're both liars.
Jesse enjoys it when people are stupid because, unlike us,
we have an emotional response to stupidity, right?
We have a problem with it.
I get mad.
Gypsy Sisters makes me upset
Physically upset
I get tight in the chest
And I get angry
And I pound the table
And I leave the room
Sarah Louise
She laughed her ass off
Caprice loves a show called Shameless
And she's currently burning through it right now
And it is about
A trashy family in Chicago
Who literally can't catch a break
But also doesn't help their cause ever
It's so well written
And so well done
It's amazing
Written
Yeah well written
It is a written show for sure
And it was also a British show before this.
But every time they make a dumbass decision,
like there's one episode where a baby ends up ingesting cocaine
because they're having a cocaine party.
And it happens.
No.
No, I'm not.
Wait, wait, sorry.
Is this a fictional program?
Yes, it's a fictional program.
Jesus.
Adam, I don't know anymore, man.
And then here's the thing.
They give the main character, played by Emmy Ross,
and they gave her an ankle bracelet
and she proceeds to go to another coke party
and gets all coked up
and then ends up in jail for 90 days
and she's the main breadwinner
and her dad's an alcoholic anyway.
But sometimes in life that happens.
So I get so upset by this show.
Today I just watched the South Park episode
White Trash in Trouble.
Looking at the camera saying
I'm White Trash and I'm in trouble.
I'm White Trash and I'm in trouble.
Gotta lay off the past blue ribbon.
That's why I
I get physically mad
And I have to get up and clean
I have to go do stuff
Because I can't handle sitting through this show
Because of stuff like that
But Jesse and SL
This is my very long belabored point
Jesse and SL
Or Mrs. Dangle as you guys know her
They are like
At least it's not me
I don't think that's how I look at it at all
I don't know if that's what they get out of it
It's pure sadism
Is it pure sadism?
A little bit.
Ah, you laughed.
No, no.
No, that's your fake voice.
I think I'm just a reasonable person, and I can look at a situation and be like, hey.
Well, I'm an emotional person.
You're an idiot, and I'm not going to help you.
See, I'm emotion first, reason later.
Like, yeah, a great example of this was Jesse a couple episodes ago when he was like, oh, and you responded.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I didn't respond to the cuck ones, though.
Well, the point I think I was making at some point was I didn't understand people who felt super passionately one way or the other.
The NHL doesn't take head injuries seriously or something like that.
Well, okay, that's a discussion I have time for.
And there's some proof to that.
There's some emails that might back that up.
But you're sure beyond the shadow of a doubt.
Could you convict Matt Niskanen in court?
That he did that on purpose
No
Marty McSorley wasn't convicted in court
Yes
You know why?
Well first of all
Not a hockey play
When did that
When did that come into the picture?
I must have missed that
Not a hockey play
And yeah definitely a criminal offense
You could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt
Marty McSorley meant to do that shit
Matt Niskanen?
No you can't
I don't
I didn't understand anyone who felt passionately one way or the other.
So I have to bring this up because this part really gets me.
Okay.
Don Cherry.
Pens are up 3-1, by the way.
Yeah, well, we'll get to the game.
Don Cherry says in his kind of wrap-up of it, and naturally he's pro-Crosby.
And, I mean, I get it.
I get it.
But what he said was, well, these two have a history.
And he was talking about he shows a clip from them jawing at each other in Dallas and Spirit.
giving each other a few whacks.
Which, by the way,
take Crosby and insert person here.
Insert defenseman here
from every team ever.
They're going to have moments.
Because guess what?
If you're a defenseman,
you're slashing, hooking,
and making life miserable
for Sidney Crosby.
He's been the best player
in the league for 11 years.
That's the way it goes.
He's going to have,
maybe even longer.
Yeah.
Doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
A long time, right?
You can find a highlight with Crosby.
Exactly.
Not hard to do.
And then he's like,
and then when Niskanen
goes to Washington,
oh boy
and then they show
a clip of him
and Niskanen
going at it
but previously
ignoring the fact
that for four years
four years
they were teammates
after the Dallas fight
four years
and
so much so
that Marc-Andre Fleury
had Matt Niskanen's
name on his helmet
as his favorite
like one of his
favorite former pens
like he's got
a whole bunch of them
he covered it up
with tape
oh baby
no that means
they're feuding
so it's over
I'm sorry
I don't think Matt Niskanen hates
like human
there was the argument that
Matt Niskanen
even if he does
Matt Niskanen wants
even if he does
oh he would have stayed in Pittsburgh
for four years
just hating Sidney Crosby
if he
he could still hate him
and I'm not convinced
I'm not convinced
that it was on purpose
I also think there should have been
at least
two penalties on that play
so
absolutely I agree
I think
I was talking to someone
about this yesterday
I think the big thing
that comes out of all this
is
a larger discussion
Of what is and isn't
As John Shannon put it
An acceptable stick foul
Yeah
What Ovechkin did
Happens a thousand times
A playoff game
And a thousand times
A regular season game
Sometimes it's called
In a regular season
It's never called
In the playoffs
A slash like that
A two-handed slash
Is
A hockey play
They accept it
Why?
Why?
And Jeff Merrick
There was a great discussion
It was on Primetime Sports
John Shannon and Jeff Merrick
basically just took over for bob mccowan and okay so we need to look at stick fouls and then jeff
goes well now how much of the game do you want to be on special teams how many penalties are
going to get called a game is it going to be 10 aside what is it then what is it i i think that
leads that's that's the bigger discussion i got from this the crosby injury is super unfortunate
It sucks
And we're talking about it again
The big story now
Is are Jay Beagle and Phil Kessel
Going to play Mario Kart
And which characters they would pick
I want to see that
My favorite tweet is it had this menacing picture of Phil Kessel
That it said under his breath
I'll give you fucking Mario Kart
And the Penguins won
Without Sidney Crosby
They're up 3-1 in the series
After all of that
They didn't have LeTang for any of it
And Ron Hainsey, who survived Alexander Ovechkin's vicious, intentional puck to the head,
even though he was standing basically right beside him.
Can I just ask, though?
You're the Capitals, right?
And all of this has happened.
I'm miserable.
Okay, yes.
Are you not coming out and putting on a better performance than they did last night?
I was shocked.
Even Barry Trotz was like, we didn't play our game.
You can look at the press conference.
He knows it.
Did they play well enough to win?
No
It's so appropriate, I think, that the Leafs and Caps met in the first round
Because in different ways
They're two extremely talented, mentally weak teams
The Leafs got much better as the season went on
And are very young
And they're very young, of course
I don't want to make excuses, but it's like, okay, well
You're mentally weaker, I think, when you're young
Absolutely
I have developed, I don't know, we'll call them defense mechanisms, but like I...
A thicker skin.
You're more of a man.
And it's one of those things where like young people listening to this are going to be like,
what the hell?
Nice face.
They're going to be like, what the hell?
It's true though.
It's true.
And, but then you get a little older and you go, oh, I was the guy who said what the hell
all the time.
Yep.
Me too.
Me too.
Yeah.
And you develop and it's...
It's kind of like, except for you, it's kind of like your first long-term relationship.
Everything is super high and then it's super low and...
and then you break up
and you're like
that was horrible
yeah
and then the next relationship
kind of chills things out
a little bit
and then the next one
after that
chills it out even more
yeah I read a really
interesting article
written by a friend
of mine yesterday
and she talked about
being in a miserable
relationship for five years
but she listed
all the things
she learned
along the way
I learned this
this will never happen again
I learned this
blah blah blah
and the way that relates
to the leaves
by the way
so
coughed up lead
after lead
after lead
after lead and that was still a problem as the season went on but instead of giving up a three
goal lead they would have a three nothing lead and then win three two they'd still just lock it down
they would have a two nothing lead and then win two one they would still lock it down now the one
blip i would think in their strengthening mentally and defensively i mean we could call it tactics as
well was at the end of the season even though it was five games in seven days whatever it was
All they needed was
What was it?
Three points
Three
GDMF points
And they got them
And they got them
But oh shit
They barely got them
Yeah
And had they got
Four or five
Maybe
Yeah
And spread those out
Over the course of the year
They would have played
Ottawa or Boston
But it didn't matter
The situation in front of them
Was they needed to win
Like two games
Yeah
Or whatever it was
One game I think
And
They just squeaked it out
Even the final game of the season
They're up 2-0
They freaking cough it up
I think that was exhaustion
More than anything
The Capitals
Cross to bear
Whatever
Is
Playoff time comes
And they crumble
Like
I was so happy with how the Leafs played against them
Did the Leafs see
The best version of the Capitals?
Are the regular season Capitals
harder to beat than the playoff capitals?
They might be.
I wonder if they're easier to figure out
over the course of a seven-game series.
Like, I often wonder that.
Like, they come out, they surprise you,
and then they're out of town, right?
Like, they're gone.
Well, I don't know about that either.
Like, they just...
I wasn't impressed.
I watched them.
They didn't look impressive.
And I'm like, is Pittsburgh just running their show?
Like, is Pittsburgh just making them look like crap?
Like, LeBron to the Raptors?
Is that what I'm seeing?
No, they're not the capitals right now.
what's going on?
What's going on?
And it's the here we go again.
It's what they talked about with the Leafs around midseason.
It's guys like Bozak and Kadri.
You know, the younger guys who grew up as fans,
they have a little bit of, oh, my God, not again.
There was that great image of Mitch Marner on the bench
when the Leafs had a 4-1 lead in Boston,
and they coughed it up, and he's like, shit.
I watched it.
Now I'm in the uniform, and I'm living it.
Shit.
But a guy like Bozak, a guy like Kadri,
A guy like JVR just going
Oh my god
It's the same scenario we've seen a thousand times
Ovechkin's trying to overcome it
When Oshie
Got that penalty late in the game against Pittsburgh
Which shouldn't have been a penalty by the way
And I guess we can talk about that
He did this clapping thing
Where everyone was talking about
How it was him getting mad at the call
And he was screaming at the refs
I think he was basically saying to the bench
Fuck the penalty, fuck everything
We're still winning this thing
He's trying to barrel through it
But I think almost everyone else on the Caps is like, holy shit, we're the Capitals, and we're capitaling.
We're a Washington capital zing right now, and there's nothing we can do to stop it.
And if you've been on the Caps for this long, and the Corps has been together for a while, why would you think anything different?
It's happening.
It's happening again.
It's the problems between the ears.
And it's affecting execution, and there's numbers.
Of course when
It's here
If Pittsburgh wins this series
It will be
Alexander Ovechkin's fault
By the way
I do not believe
That sentiment
But how many people
Get ready
How many people
Are going to say that
And I hate to dump
On Shea Weber
I'm not trying to
But
You look at their
Playoff resumes
And they're
Pretty identical
How many people
Are going to say that
About Ovechkin
And Weber
I haven't heard
Shit about that
I actually haven't heard
Anything about Weber
Not outside of the internet
Nope
I don't know
And you know what
Caps had to win three straight
To beat the Leafs
Well they didn't have to
But they did
All they gotta do is win three straight
Do it again
Do it again
You're the Caps
Can the Washington Capitals
Win three straight games
Yes we know they can
That is such an easy question to answer
Yes
Can they do it right now
I don't know
We'll see
Man
It's in the head man
I just, I thought, man, they're going to come out strong today, and they sure didn't.
They sure didn't.
Edmonton.
Oh, they tied it.
Yeah, I wouldn't say they look like garbage.
They hit two posts in the third period on the power play.
Yeah, yeah.
And they got jobbed.
They got jobbed on that high stick.
Yeah, that was brutal.
That was brutal.
That's the Matt Hunwick special.
That was not fair.
Get a call for a high stick that you didn't do.
And Bonino.
Oh, boy.
It's one thing if the ref calls it, like, just, he thought it was a high sticking, it's another, like, you dove.
He should be fined.
Every time they find an incident like that, you should be fined.
Did he die?
Yes.
Again, I feel passionately about that, because here's the film, stick doesn't touch him in the face.
Now, in the same position, would I do that?
Probably.
I'm trying to win a Stanley Cup here.
But, you're fined.
It was $2,500 or $5,000, whatever it is.
He dove.
He dove.
Bonino, Bonino, Bonino dove.
I am surprised the NHL doesn't because they find Nazem Khadri randomly for it
and then never follow it up on really anybody else.
So it was Burroughs and Khadri that got fined or something?
Something like that.
I don't think I've seen a fine for it since.
And they don't seem to announce them all the time.
Oh, so maybe they do.
Well, they should.
I think they do.
I don't know.
During the World Cup, I signed up for all those NHL press release emails, and I severely regret it.
Dude, I get like 17 a day.
It's brutal.
About what?
All kinds of shit.
Oh, the Vegas delete.
Oh, the three stars of the nominees.
Oh, the nominees for every award.
Get out of my inbox.
But every now and then, I'm like, oh, okay.
There's been a couple fines for diving recently.
Drogsado was fined recently
and Kuznetsov was fined
in January
there was a couple
in the last few months
that's it
a couple
if your own head coach is saying we didn't play our game
we did not play well
then I don't think he came out with enough
I just don't
Ovechkin said I didn't play a good game
that's leadership
you don't have to look to me to be upset
he said it
He's taking the burden.
Yeah, that's cool.
I think that's leadership.
Yeah.
I think it's Schmiederschmidt.
Well, Nate Schmidt is not to blame.
I think he's a clown.
Well, that's because he's a clown.
And needs to become a student of the game.
Oh, my dear God.
Edmonton has lost two games since we said, hey, Edmonton's up 2-0.
I thought they got job, too.
Well, okay.
Did you see the, or not the disallowed goal, the goal that was allowed?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Who in the NHL
Is the
Who is the reigning champion
Of getting away with shit
That's a good question
It's not Kadri anymore
He might have been
He might have held like the intercontinental title
Wasn't quite ready for like the
The main event
But he's on the main card
Good question I don't know
Brad Marchand
Yes but they are sort of wise to his game
They suspended him
For a brutal spear
That they probably didn't have a choice on
So it's Corey Perry
yeah he has to be the king the champion he must have he has to have been for the last 10 years
like him and burrows maybe for a while kessler for a while i like i don't know man like who can
who can match that maybe here jesse i'll send this to you so you can put it in the youtube video but
i want to show you the screen cap that john shannon put up well actually it's it's two parts
to fully understand everything, okay?
So, where was it?
Pierre Lebrun.
On Coach's challenge for Ducks' first goal last night,
call in war room was that the incidental contact
was in the white paint,
not Corey Perry initiating.
No, he is in the white paint.
Like, that's what's...
That's the difference between a goal and not a goal.
I don't...
Is he, though?
Is he in the white paint?
Yeah, he is.
Very clearly.
This one?
I'm looking at the same picture.
Is this the same one?
It's the same picture.
Yeah, he is.
I'm showing you.
Holy fuck.
Because look, Cam Talbot's foot is out on the white paint, and Corey Perry's foot's in front of it.
His foot is on the blue paint, it's on the red paint, the contact is on the-
Oh no, Steve, I'm not trying to be rude or anything.
Honestly, he's on the white paint.
No, no, he is.
So it's a goal.
Yeah.
So it's a goal.
But the momentum, though, like, so, okay, if you're in the white paint at all, I can just smash you.
Yeah.
Like, if you're pinky toe, like, it's, how much of his foot, like, what percentage is in the white paint right now?
10? 15?
So I can just drill you.
Just, can I body check him?
Is that okay?
Oh, I thought it was more about Corey Perry and his positioning, but I guess, yeah.
I mean, listen.
That's going to decide the Stanley Cup this year.
You know this, right?
Oh, yeah.
It was like the crease goal with Brett Hall, which never should have counted.
Oh, my God.
I'm with Buffalo fans on that.
Should never have counted that goal.
That wasn't a real thing, but they'd already started the ceremony
and bringing the cup out, but we can't stop it now.
The dark one that people always bring up when it comes to dirty hits is
a player is going to have to die for something to change.
Well, the less extreme version of that is something super dumb has to happen for a rule to be changed.
The Brett Hall toe-in-the-crease goal needed to happen.
That needed to happen, and Buffalo, I'm so, so sorry.
But you needed to get shafted there so we can move on from that stupid rule.
To fix, I think, whatever rules we got going on now for offside and all that,
it's going to have to cost someone a Stanley Cup.
But they got the goal right.
They did.
Based on their current rules.
Based on this?
Yeah.
It's in the white paper.
Jesus.
They got it right.
Jesus.
Remember, these things happen split seconds and we're able to make it happen and we're
able to slow it down a thousand times and look at it and look at it and tweet it and
whatever.
So it's different, right?
It's different.
Here's a question for you.
So the call on the ice was that it was a goal, right?
Sure.
They review it and they see that picture.
Okay.
And the call on the ice is no goal.
Do they reverse it?
The original call is...
Let's pretend the original call is no goal.
Is no goal.
Do they reverse it?
I don't think they do.
No, I think they do.
I think they do.
I think that's enough evidence.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I feel bad for Oilers fans this morning.
They're pissed off.
Well, naturally.
Of course.
Speaking of piss.
didn't even mean to do that
Ottawa Senators
oh we'll do the urinal stuff later
oh do you want to talk about that
well it was a nice segment
so Edmonton writer David Staples
Edmonton writer David Staples
tweeted a picture in response to
something that happened at Rogers Arena
which was some of the
women's rooms were converted to men's rooms
because there are more men at hockey games than women
the problem is
women take longer in the bathroom
just based on how women don't stand up to pee, guys.
They don't stand up to pee.
So they need stalls.
They need to go in, sit down, pull down their pants,
do their business, and then pull the pants back up
and come back out.
All right, all right, we know how people pee.
Whereas guys are like, okay, I'm going to whip it
and then whip it back in.
Okay.
So people were naturally upset about this.
I think rightly so.
I get that.
And David Staples tweets out a picture of a water fountain
from your high school.
Not even a water fountain, a water washing,
like a hand washing fountain.
that you would press down
you would depress with your foot
and the water would come out and there would be soap in it
and he's like why don't we just get these and nobody look down
at each other's peckers
and then pee into it
shared that tweet like he was being serious
I think he was kidding
I don't think David Staples was seriously
I don't think he was seriously suggesting
let's just all piss in a fountain in a circle
no
I think he meant trough style
which by the way I think the Steelers do that
I think he was just kidding
I don't mind that
In and out man
In and out
Wash your hands
I get it
And Jen Neal
Was leading the charge
On this one
And a lot of
Female Oilix fans
Were rightfully
Dare I say
Pissed off
Well yeah
They had to wait
Half an hour in line
Yeah
Half an hour
Again
This is not
Something that's new
Like I don't
I don't understand
Why they did this
I don't get
You have
Women's washrooms there
they have to
like your
okay if you have
equal number of
men's and women's
washrooms
but you have more
men at the game
women still need
the equal amount
of washrooms
even though
say it's 60, 40
or 70, 30
because of the
time taken
right?
There has only been
one time in my life
where I was like
can we maybe
convert a couple
of these to
men's washrooms
it was when I was
at the UFC event
that was held
at Rogers Center
I don't know
what the ratio is
at a hockey game
but holy shit
it was like 90 to
10
UFC is like 95
the lineup was insane
it was insane
but
it is what it is man
tough shit
and
tough shit
hopefully it's not a tough shit
I was at a Backstreet Boys
New Kids on the Block
especially in the 500s
because it's one stall
I was at a Backstreet Boys
New Kids on the Block
concert in Calgary
and they converted
basically all the men's rooms
to women's washrooms
smart
smartly
what was this?
Calgary
at the Saddle Dome.
No, but what was the concert?
New Kids and Backstreet Boys.
Well?
I mean, it makes sense.
It was like me in a sea of women.
There are not many guys at those concerts.
It's fine.
There are certain events that cater to women.
There are certain events that don't.
Adam just stood in the line by himself.
Oh, I saw you.
I mean, there's no one to go to my own washroom.
No, it was so funny.
They hadn't even bothered to turn on the lights
in the men's room.
I had to physically flick the switch.
Like it was
It was a
Adam goes to take a dump
He doesn't even close the door
It was true
Like it
Nobody had been in
Right
There weren't that many guys there
There just weren't
That's funny
Now I saw a couple good points
Brought up about this
One
Coming from
Sherry
That I saw on Twitter
Is this even legal
Are they allowed to do that
Oh I would think so
Yeah
I guess like as long as you have
There would be bylaws
Like what are the legal requirements
Well, they would follow those.
It would be whatever it is in Edmonton, right?
The legal minimum of whatever.
Right.
So I'm sure they had at least the minimum, I guess, which is still probably insufficient.
The other one, and this is a great point.
Is this not a brand spanking new half billion dollar arena?
I think it's those damn.
Or whatever.
Is it only half billion?
That's what I read.
I think it's those concourse passes.
They have too many people in the building.
Yeah.
They have the stadium full and then an extra 200 people standing around.
that's insane
I wonder too
you know
with regards to
the whole experience
of you know
seeing that happen
if you're a woman
like if that were Caprice
I know
and she's done
I know this
because she's done this
she would just get
into the men's line
with me
and just go
go pee in the men's room
you do what you
gotta do
that is against
bylaws
is that against bylaws
well I can tell you
that men
men do not care
and men are like
sympathetic
like yeah come on
and who cares
Like, we don't blame you, right?
It's like, if I were, and it's easy for me to say because I'm a guy, but I would have been like, F this.
Because when I have to pee, I have to pee.
But if you're in a lineup of, say, 30 or 40 people, which is not out of the question, one of them is going to narc on you.
No.
Oh, yeah.
No.
You just go by percentage.
Okay, if 39 of them don't care.
What are they going to do, kick you out of the arena for pee?
One, yeah, it is illegal, so they can.
Yeah.
Two, somebody's probably going to narc on you.
Oh, that would go over real well in the papers the next morning in Edmonton.
Are you kidding me?
You would get free tickets to the next game so fast.
But you have no argument if they're following the law.
Oh, no.
But if you shut down women's washrooms and converted them to men's rooms,
you walk right up the street to the local nearest news outlet.
I swear to you.
Walk right up the street, 19-tickety-two.
Yeah, no.
And tweet on your phone, I'm walking up the street.
I am.
I'm going to write a blog on the corner selling the newspapers and the hat with the feather.
Hey, boy, give me one of those.
Hey, kid.
Listen.
Tell him to go to his boss and report this story.
You can make fun of me, but the point stands.
The Oilers do not want that kind of press.
How many horses do you own, Adam?
Many.
Many.
All right.
I was doing their horseshoeing this morning.
Yeah.
Yes.
I went to my local blacksmith.
Yes.
Yeah, it's so ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
And now what's going to happen for game five?
Who's the home team?
Anaheim, right?
And Edmonton just lost two games at home.
Anaheim lost two games at home.
Both teams lost two games at home.
So game six would be Edmonton.
But home ice advantage matters, guys.
It matters.
Well, by the percentage.
Actually, I can't wait for the actually on that.
By the percentages, actually.
Oh, there will be so many.
So many.
I can't wait for people to tell me that the Caps actually played a great game.
I can't wait for that.
Because I know it's coming.
I know it's coming.
No, a lot of people told me that, and I'm like, well.
Super.
They didn't play.
I guess the Pens played.
If the Caps played a great game, the Pens played a greater game.
Like that George Carlin thing, like people, things people say after other people die.
George died, but I just saw him yesterday.
Yeah.
Didn't help.
He's dead now.
You should have stopped him from doing whatever the hell he was doing
The Caps played a great game
Yeah
It didn't help
They lost
And they should have played a great game
They didn't have Crosby
Question
Will Alexander Ovechkin
Ever win a second round series
In his entire career
Wow I thought you were going to say Stanley Cup
But we have
Dink dink
Lowered that bar
Just a second round series
Yeah
He's going to
Think of all the
The Capitals
If they ever do win the cup
With Ovechkin
It won't necessarily be with the best team they've ever assembled
This is arguably the best team they've ever assembled
Last year they were on pace to break some regular season records
Until they tailed off a little
In the last month
They've had great teams
And it is what it is
Again, I've said it before, I'll say it again
A wise man once said the best team in the NHL
Doesn't always win the Stanley Cup
So what's your answer?
Yeah, he's going to win a second round series
I just don't
Know when that'll be
Might be
Next week
Do you know
When I think
Ovechkin will win the cup
When the Leafs make it
To the Eastern Conference Final
Yes
When he signs with the Leafs
Yeah no
I think Ovechkin will win the cup
With the Caps
But he will not be
The star on the team anymore
Who the hell
Is gonna take over
For Alex Ovechkin
He will be the
He will be
The grizzled vet
He'll be Jager
He'll be Dave Anderchuk
Yeah
Like he will not
But I just...
I'm here.
That's great, Dave.
And if I'm wrong...
And by the way, can I just say,
I hope I'm wrong about that.
I really genuinely do.
But when I look at where the Capitals are,
from this instance,
this could change tomorrow.
But from this instance,
they're down 3-1 to the Penguins.
Even if they win a game tomorrow
or whenever they play again,
is it Friday?
They've got to play three elimination games
just to win the series.
Yeah.
So let's say the Penguins win.
Then you've got significant turnover in the roster.
and five and then you get significant roster
turnover in the
summertime not only the expansion draft
but you get a bunch of free agents
I mean it's not like they can't attract
people to DC it's an amazing city
and you know
you get to play with Ovi that's awesome
but they're going into retoolville
they're going into losing in the first
round Chicago style
is that such a bad thing?
not necessarily I think it takes the pressure off them
and it might make them surprise people
And it's Saturday, Monday, Wednesday
Saturday, Monday, Wednesday
Wow, that's a big break
Look at the amount of points the Caps had this season
They could
How many points did they get?
Like they could shed like 20 points from their regular season score
And still make the playoffs
That's 10 wins
That's a lot
That's a lot of wins
They'll be fine
They might even win a series or two next year
Might even win the damn cup
Like, I don't know
I don't know
Just because you need cheaper options next year doesn't necessarily mean they're worse.
No, I agree.
But what I was trying to say, even just turnover, chemistry takes a while to develop, too.
Yeah, sometimes.
Maybe it doesn't.
Maybe it clicks right away.
Maybe it does.
You're right.
Like this show.
Right away.
Clicked right away.
Sort of did.
I disagree.
It didn't click until Jesse came.
You had one really weak memory.
There's Jesse on the brakes.
Jesse on the rusty brakes.
Andrew Berkshire suggested it at sportsthen.ca
Oh, shut up!
Sorry
I just wanted to tell Berkshire to shut up
Andrew, not the voice of Habs Nation, as I was told
Implicitly
Andrew, I'm not mad, it's actually funny to me
Andrew, I'm not mad about the Habs, Berkshire
I'm no longer a fan
No, right
Okay
I'm just right primarily about the Habs
and primarily suggest, you know, how they could win.
He did write about the Senators.
He doesn't care.
He said that basically in the end.
It's funny to him.
With the Senators series,
Senators are not apparently a great five-on-five team.
Numbers sort of show that they're not necessarily the best five-on-five team.
And here they are.
And here they are.
And he said they're walking, what he said,
and I suggest you read the article because there's math in it,
so I'm not even going to try.
he's suggesting
that they are
walking a bit of a
tightrope
and they've got
Craig Anderson
and Eric Carlson
and Eric Carlson
they're an
Eric Carlson
injury away from
not winning another
game in these playoffs
but
they got Eric Carlson
so
let it ride
but he is injured
well
they're an
out of the lineup
Eric Carlson away
I guess
I guess
what's he running at
right now
80%?
With a fractured foot?
Doesn't matter.
That still probably makes him
the best defenseman in the world.
Probably.
He's crazy.
You know what?
It's interesting.
The Sens are kind of winning games
similarly to the Canadians
of two years ago.
I would say.
Great goaltending.
You got one defender,
one right-handed
all-world defender
running the show.
Time to trade him to Nashville.
Yeah.
And a few guys
running hot.
That's it
Take it
Is that not
You didn't win a cup that way
Is that not how LA won
The first time
With Jonathan Quick
Well they had a lot of guys
Running hot
Jeff Carter completely
Changed the makeup
Of that team though
They went from
I think 11th in the west
To the 8th seed
To almost winning
The Stanley Cup
In a record low
Number of games
Like
They beat the Canucks
The President's Trophy
Winning Canucks
In 5
They murdered them
They murdered everybody
Yeah
It was insane
You can win a cup
With that team
Again
You don't need to be the best team
In the NHL
The Sens
Based on the makeup
Of their team
Do not have the highest chance
Of winning out of the
Eight teams remaining
But
Eight teams remaining
And you only gotta beat
Three of them
Is that
The playoffs are stupid
Where stupid happens
It's a lot of fun
It should be a lot of fun to watch
They are up 2-1
They play tonight
Imagine you're the Washington Capitals
You lose to Pittsburgh in 5
And then the Sens beat them
Oh god
I would never cheer for the Sens
But god that's too funny
That would be hilarious
I don't know
Also with the season
Craig Anderson's had
It would be nice to see him
In the finals
With what's going on
Like that would be
Just a great story
Just I
I can handle
Clark MacArthur
Winning the cup
Yeah
I can't handle
Dion Phaneuf
In an Ottawa Senators
Uniform
Raising the Stanley Cup
We'd never hear the end of it
Phaneuf on the Flyers
Phaneuf on the Coyotes
On the Shark
I don't give a shit
Ugh
On the Sens
Jesus
No
You know it's gonna happen
No!
Now it's next.
Now it's rooting against the Sens.
Wow.
Right?
You just ruined everything.
Right?
Go New York.
You can't cheer for that.
I saw some people, they're talking about, okay, you know what?
I can get behind Carlson having success.
Yeah.
Okay, I can get behind Craig Anderson having success.
Kyle Turris.
Kyle Turris.
Hey, hey, Clark MacArthur.
That's a great story.
FNUF.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh, and FNUF raises it above his head.
He screams.
Yeah!
Who's next?
Who's next?
Here you go, Burr.
Here you go, Brett, and then he hands the Stanley Cup to Alex Burrows.
Oh, you just turned the entire city of Vancouver
and the entire everywhere else against the Senators, too.
I hope no one's cheering for the Senators.
Yeah.
Would they be the worst team to win the Stanley Cup since, like, the Hurricanes?
Probably.
Who's been the worst team to win the Cup in the last 10 years?
That's a good question.
They've all been pretty dominant teams.
Even if they weren't the most deserving team,
All the teams who won were legit good
And Cam Ward was
Unreal that year
I think it was Berkshire I was talking to
I was looking at the 06 Hurricanes roster
And I was like, seriously?
They won the cup?
Who was the coach?
Wasn't it Laviolette?
I think it was Peter Laviolette
Might have been
And they made two huge
Deadline acquisitions
They got Doug Waite
and they got
Mark Recchi
I think
and it's still
looking at the roster
I went
I looked at the roster
and went wait
okay so prior to
acquiring those guys
how did they make the playoffs
yeah
and then they won the cup
I remember
the feeling
oh no well
that was a different year
I was
the first time they went
they went to the Stanley Cup Final
in 2002
I remember the feeling
as a Leafs fan
when the Leafs made it
to the third round
and I was like wait
their third round opponents
the Hurricanes
holy shit
the Leafs are going
to the Stanley Cup Final
for the first time in my life
I can't believe it
Out in six
Yep
Wait
What do you mean we got this far
Without Sundin
And we're getting Sundin back
Stanley Cup final
Ow
That hurt a lot
Yeah
Metal on the bone
Sucks normally
Cause after the Hurricanes
It's Chicago
LA
Pittsburgh
They'd probably be the Hurricanes
And
Hurricanes fans
For any of you who are listening
And are upset
You won
We're not taking that away
Oh is Hurricane fan upset
I think the sad part
about what's going on
with Ottawa's team
is that nobody's there
to see it too
I had to get one in there
I had to get one in there
Somebody tweeted about
they're like
I have $48
and then they sent
a screen cap
and an email they got
and it was like
Ottawa Center's
season ticket holders
if you renew your
season tickets
we can offer you
playoff tickets
to this round
cheapest tickets
at $48
And the next one was, party pack of subs from Subway, $48.
He's like, what should I get?
That was my favorite part.
My favorite part of that whole Ottawa situation was the people saying, well, we can't afford the tickets.
When I'm like, yeah, okay.
Tell me about it.
And, you know, it's not even income relative to what the market could support.
I understand that Toronto, like, Ottawa's a mostly government city, and that puts you in a certain pay grade.
Toronto has a far vaster, very poor end, very rich end, like, super, you know, there are super wealthy people here, en masse.
And there are super, not super wealthy, probably super disadvantaged people here, en masse.
It's businesses, man.
True.
That's who buys the tickets.
But beyond that, like, it's not, when you go on to StubHub, and you look at how much the tickets actually were,
oh they're aftermarket
people were scalping them
they're 50 freaking dollars
are you kidding me
yeah but there's
three foot long subs
yeah
if you buy coffee
there's nothing worse though
don't buy coffee
every day for a month
yeah
make your own coffee
for a month
that is never gonna happen
make your own coffee
for a month
that's not gonna happen
and put it in a thermos
two weeks
two weeks
like
well how about
they're
a city with an NHL team
and
it should just sell out
during the playoffs.
Don't the Coyotes
sell out during the playoffs?
Yeah.
Yeah.
They do.
They have the whiteout,
don't they?
They're like the 80th team
that does the whiteout.
Every team goes,
oh, we're going to do
the whiteout tonight.
So are we.
Cool.
The Leafs,
oh, we're not going to do
something hacky
like the whiteout.
Oh, good.
The blueout.
You were part of that.
Don't judge.
I don't sat there
for two games
in your blue clothes.
See, here's the hilarious part
About the Coyotes whiteout
Is that when a
Visiting team comes
Their most
Their jerseys are white
Yeah
So
It's like
It's almost like
They're a Coyotes fan on TV
I guess
Yeah
I guess
Maybe that's what it is
I think it was like
Vince Carter's return to Toronto
And the Raptors tried to do
Like a whiteout
And he's like
Well I appreciated
That all the fans
Were wearing our colors
Yeah it was
Jersey had an
Orangist red jersey
And the entire crowd
Wore red
So it looked like
We were all cheering
For New Jersey
Because the Raptors
Wore their home whites
Because in the NBA
You wear your whites at home
so it didn't work at all.
And then they beat us
in the first round of the playoffs.
Yeah, and then they did that.
And then they did that.
Hey, just on the NBA for a second.
The San Antonio-Houston series
is so interesting
because both games have been blowouts
and by opposite teams.
Like, you never see that.
And not just like,
oh, we won by 20 points.
It's like 35, 40,
like, shit-kicked points.
The first game wasn't close.
No.
At any point.
And then San Antonio came back
and whooped the Rockets
last night
and it was like
everyone in three
and now Tony Parker's out
for the series
for the playoffs
that won't matter
to San Antonio
yeah
I don't think it'll matter
because he's old
but still
but still that sucks
he's like
I'm still going on
my 2004 knowledge
so I'm like
that's devastating
that's terrible
oh no
who would Tim Duncan play with
it's a good thing
they got Robinson and Duncan
oh my god
Kobe's gonna slay them
Alright
Does manager Ginobili
Still have all his hair
No
Since we've successfully
Pissed off most fan bases
In the NHL
I would like to go further
Alright
I'm gonna raise
A hypothetical to you gentlemen
And I was thinking about this
Last night because
You know
It goes off of
The thing that Steve
Brought to the show
I'm not sure who said it
But find the dumbest one
In the room
And make the phone call
Who's the
Like find the dumbest
General manager
It was either Dimitri
It was either Dimitri Filipovich
Who said it
Or Travis Yost.
Right.
I don't remember.
Find the dumbest GM in the NHL.
No, identify who the dumb GMs are and call them all the time.
Those are the two steps to success.
Good point.
In this league.
Yes.
So, if there is a team or a management group representing a team,
because sometimes the team gets unfairly looped in with their management group, right?
Sure.
We love the Leafs.
Couldn't stand the Carlisle-Nonas era, right?
Sure.
if there's a management group
most likely
to screw up
the expansion draft
and I'm not talking about
who they protect
and who they don't
oh like
oh I forgot
I should have protected
X player
because a year later
he's great
you know what I mean
we didn't see that in him
we didn't see that potential
but wow he went to Vegas
got some ice time
and he's great
yeah I'm not talking about that
I'm talking about
not knowing
the actual rules
of which there are many
oh no
Who is most likely to have something?
The Vancouver Canucks.
You think Vancouver?
I just thought I would cut you off.
The Vancouver Canucks.
The team with a track record of not actually knowing the rules.
The Vancouver Canucks.
An alleged track record of not knowing the rules.
Right.
And allegedly having the NHL send out emails to every GM going,
by the way, since dummy didn't know the rules, here are the rules, dummies.
Adam, do tell.
Why would you bring this up?
I'm only just, I want to know, I want to know what you, so you think Vancouver, most likely.
You know.
I know.
Now, what do you think the likelihood of something like that happening is?
Do you think that we'll actually see a team, because if you think about it, the probability is pretty high.
You've got 30 NHL teams with a very complicated set of rules for this expansion draft, right?
It's not easy.
No, it's not.
Oh, by the way, I forgot.
Something is bound to go wrong.
I forgot to tell you guys a story.
Is this relevant, or is Steve just remembering something
and then inserting it because he just remembered it?
We shall see.
We shall see, but let's go with him on this journey.
This is about to feel dumb.
I spoke to CapFriendly on the phone.
I didn't know you could talk to websites on the phone.
I did.
I spoke to the whole website.
I didn't even dial anything.
I said, get me CapFriendly.
And then the operator made me.
I was smoking a cigarette.
It's plugged in your cable.
Oh, you're talking to Louise this morning?
Yeah, Thelma.
She's going, going, pulling darts out of her hair.
She's using darts to keep her hair together.
Of course.
Anyway.
Mrs. Dart guy.
Mrs. Dart guy.
And I went, yeah, there's a lot of rules, and I'm not totally clear on all of them.
And he goes, yeah, I know.
I listen to the podcast.
So I was like, oh.
Hey, listen, man.
I don't feel any shame in not knowing the exact rules of every damn thing the NHL puts out.
The NHL doesn't know the NHL's own rules.
They can't even enforce them, so I don't feel that bad.
Things are too damn complicated, okay?
The reason I took Jesse's laptop from him, and actually continue because I think I interrupted you,
I want to look at the Canucks expansion draft picture.
I love when Steve says continue and then keeps talking.
I, too, love that.
I'm glad that Steve—
So, anyway.
You know what other thing?
Well, my whole point in bringing this forward is it's not to single out the Canucks.
Just going back to what I was saying originally, 30 teams, 30 different management groups.
So let's say each management group has three people and a general manager, two assistants.
Let's say four because you've got to count the head coach in that.
Okay, so you have four times 30.
You've got 120 people, and they all are going to know the rules off by heart?
I don't think so.
No.
I don't think so.
I think something is going to be screwed up here.
So what is it and who is it?
and I wonder what that is.
Now, I'm throwing that out for anybody listening to this, too.
Throw it up on the Reddit page.
Just come up with a random hypothesis
that Phoenix Coyotes didn't know
that so-and-so needed to be exposed
and the NHL had to send in a memo.
Whatever it is.
And I said Phoenix Coyotes
for all you lovebirds out there.
This is actually kind of scary for the Canucks.
Like good?
No, not at all.
Well, because I'm used to looking at the Leafs expansion situation.
Which is so happy.
Oh, shit, we might lose Josh Levo or Martin Marincin.
Or Seth Griffith, who we got for free.
What about Kirby Reichel?
Who had half a season.
Honest to goodness.
Half a good season.
Unless the Leafs lose their minds and don't protect Connor Carrick,
the best players I could see them losing are either Josh Levo, Kirby Reichel.
Seth Griffith.
I think the other two have a higher ceiling than him.
Yeah, I agree.
Maybe not.
Okay, fine.
Is there one of those three?
Is it Marincin?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. If Carrick is protected, then Marincin won't be.
Which is fine.
Or Marchenko.
Marchenko, yeah.
The Leafs are—they might not even lose a full-time NHLer.
I'm looking at the Canucks.
So, again, your two options are seven forwards, 3D, 1G,
or eight skaters of any kind and one goalie.
Well, Henrik Sedin, Daniel Sedin, and Louis Erickson,
you have to protect them. No move clause.
On defense, you got
Edler, Tanev, Spiza, Goodbranson
Goodbranson's up though, isn't he?
He's an RFA
So you could trade him
You might have to
If someone's an RFA and they're unprotected
They can be claimed, correct?
And then looking up front
Makes sense
If you do the 7-3-1 thing
You can only protect 4 out of the following
Brandon Sutter
Derek Dorsett
Sven Berchi
Anton Rodin
Marcus Granlund
Bo Horvat
Brendan Gantz
Joseph Cramorosa
Reid Boucher
Jack Skilly
Michael Zalewski
Alexander Grenier
Michael Chaput
Jason Magna
and
Borna Randulic
Is that on the tool part?
This is on the tool
Oh okay it's on the tool
This is on the tool
So all those guys have played enough games
to be exposed
Like goalies are weird too
I assume
the Canucks are going to protect
Jakob Marström.
Wait, what the hell?
The Canucks have three UFA goalies?
What the hell are these guys going to do?
Look at their team.
Steve, don't worry.
What the hell are they going to do?
Don't worry, Steve.
They're going to protect Marström.
Brian Elliott will be a Canuck next year.
Five million a year.
No, Steve, it says the year they're a UFA.
UFA 2018, UFA 2020.
Oh.
That's a strange way of listing it
Well you were talking to CapFriendly
Maybe you can get them to fix it
When the next contract expires
Like the expiry of the contract
RFA 2017
RFA 2018
Oh okay
So yeah you're gonna protect Marsham
Yeah
I don't know what the Canucks are doing dude
Okay well
Who
I need to go through every team
I haven't done that yet
Yeah I need to do that same thing
I think it'll take a while
You guys we should take an episode
And do an expansion draft
That is something I would have done in the past
And it would have been great
Remember when everybody kept telling us to do that
Well they did stop after we said maybe we will
I don't mind doing one
It's just it would
No I do
No no no we wouldn't do it live
Just bring your list
Bring your freaking list
Yeah okay
Yeah no no no
We're not gonna do it live
We're not sitting here and doing a damn expansion draft
No we're not
Okay
But what is gonna ultimately get in the way
Okay so we're all
Gonna read
What we would do for 30 teams
That's too much
Even if we come in prepared, that's going to be at least a full show.
You just read the names off.
I'd go Eric Faire and blah, blah, blah.
Times 30.
It's a full show.
It will not take that long.
It's times 30 and then times three.
It will not take that long.
I guarantee it.
And then we've got to dissect each one.
It'll probably take that long.
Well, the pre-expansion draft show should be about the expansion draft.
Should it not?
No.
No.
No, it should be about the Leafs.
Yeah.
It should be about the Leafs.
We should just do the Leafs 30 times?
We should.
Absolutely.
And how great they are.
And then we should write an op-ed about Lou Lammarello and how awesome he is.
Lou's news.
Lou's news.
What was the tweet you got the other day?
It was Lou's clues?
Lou's clues.
Yeah, I need to look at the things Lou Lammarello has said,
and from that devise what the Leafs are going to do.
Can you actually do a video?
Can you actually do a video where you're...
Because I know you've watched enough Lou's Clues.
Have you done a Lou's Clues parody?
Yes, I have.
I have the shirt, and I have ears.
No, we're not in a video.
Yeah.
Oh, you have?
yeah
it was a couple years ago
oh okay
but now you have Iggy
now we have a dog
that we can put the blue ears on
yeah
or I'll just
die him
you should do a full episode
dude
I look like him
come on
dude you have to do that
I'm a white person
with brown hair
therefore
twinsies
me
Steve from Blue's Clues
Mel Gibson
Russell Crowe
Tom Cruise
do you remember when there was that weird rumor
Antonio Banderas
what
Did you read the weird rumor that he killed himself?
Yeah, but he didn't.
And then he did it, and then they snubbed him.
The guy from Blue's Clues?
Yeah.
Steve Burns.
And then BuzzFeed did, like, an article on him because that's what they do?
No, he didn't actually kill himself.
He did not do that.
He's fully alive.
No, he's not acting.
There's this weird little stand-up comedy.
I don't even know if you could call it that.
A series called The Moth.
And Steve Burns, the guy who played Steve from Blue's Clues, did one.
And it's 17 minutes, and it's fantastic.
He's funny?
Go watch it.
Oh, it's really funny because he's not, hey, everybody, to play as Blue's Clues, we're going to find a paw print.
No, he's not that guy.
He's just, so I happen to be Steve from Blue's Clues.
A while, and it was weird.
I didn't mean to do it.
And then a porn star sent me a letter.
And yeah, it's, yeah, you got to, you got to listen to it.
You got to listen to it.
I'd love to.
Okay.
All right.
Which brings me to the Canucks are stupid.
With Nikita Zaitsev signing
Callie Rosen signing on the horizon
Carl Grunstrom
Who is on a PTO
Will probably play with the Marlies if he hasn't already
I haven't seen, I haven't paid attention, I'll be honest
No, I don't think so
He's on a PTO
Yeah, so the way that works is he needs to be on
Some kind of dumb pro tryout contract
So that his contract
His actual contract does not kick in until next year
Right, until July 1st
Yeah
Yeah, which makes sense, which is the fiscal contract search.
It's the lawyer legalese way of circle of life.
I just want to throw it out there.
What is the next move the Toronto Maple Leafs make?
I mean, based on what you've seen,
and you don't have to say this with any certainty, Steve,
because honestly, who the hell knows?
Sure.
But what do you think from the history that we've seen thus far
with this management group, based on their patterns,
what is the next thing?
I look at the holes on the team.
and I look at the surplus, which is wingers,
which we've addressed a thousand times.
Lou, not very cryptically, said,
we're going to look at the young defensemen on the Marlies
and give them a chance, one in particular.
The one in particular, which I was amazed he would say that
and then not actually say the name, has to be Travis Dermott.
I think it has to be.
So if you look at the different positions on the Marlies,
or sorry on the Leafs
Riley Zaitsev
that'll be a pairing probably
we'll say Gardner Carrick
for semantics sake
who am I missing
they might lose Marincin
might lose Marchenko
we don't know
we don't know
let's say they lose Marincin
I'm looking Polak or UFAs
and I would want to know
I'm looking Polak or UFAs
I would want to know
how bad Polak's injury was
before I go resigning him
probably pretty bad
so Dermott
potentially
gets the
You wouldn't get the 7th D
Because you would want him developing
So you might give him Hunwick's spot
Has he a left D?
Right D
He's a left-hander
I think he plays the left side
But I know on the Marlies
They do play their off-hand sometimes
Andrew Campbell did that too
To me, the position that seems wide open
Is
A righty who can maybe fill
Either
The bottom pairing, right side
Or the second pairing right side
And Carrick goes down
I thought they were going to try
To keep Gardner and Zaitsev together
Oh that's right
Because that's how they ended the season
You're right
So maybe they do that
You find a partner for Riley
Although Riley looks
He looked pretty comfortable
On the right side
He played some of his best hockey
On the right side
So those are the weird
Little decisions they have to make
I see them making one addition
On the back end
Everyone seems to think
Over the course of the summer?
Yeah like everyone seems to think
Well, okay, by one addition, I mean, starting roster, no injuries, there will be one different guy.
And then there might be, the spare might be a new guy, too.
Do you think Hunwick comes back?
I'd offer him a cheapish deal and see if he accepts it.
Polak, eh.
Eh.
I'm not offering him anything close to what he made.
No.
Well, but okay, so do you think the next move they make,
and I'm talking about you could do anything, right?
It could be somebody from the KHL.
It could be between now and the expansion draft,
because that's the first draft, right?
Yes.
What happens?
Is it radio silence?
No.
Do you think there's some movement?
Is there a trade?
You look at college free agents.
You look at European free agents.
You negotiate with Zach Hyman
You negotiate with Connor Brown
Trying to think of the other restricted free agents
They might have
You gauge
Garrett Sparks
Because he's a restricted free agent too
They might make a move
The expansion draft
Just seems like a really good opportunity
To take advantage of an unfortunate
Situation
You're the best prepared team
In the entire league
Maybe
You're one of the top five prepared teams in the entire league
So let's pretend
The Leafs make a trade
Where they get a really
Nice player from a team
Really nice defenseman
And unfortunately that shafts them
Out of a forward protection spot
Still
You get to protect
Brendan Leipzig and then you still
Only lose one of
You expose three guys but you only
lose one of or not even three guys it's more than that you still only lose one of fair martin
griffith um levo and reichel you still only lose one of them plus you've got someone else
so that that is the one thing i would look for um maybe get another defenseman
no but then if you get another defenseman you're gonna have to protect that guy
and expose
Connor Carrick
what if you can get
a guy you don't have
to expose
which to me
points to more
European free agents
European Russian
but why would a team
trade a guy
who you can't expose
yeah I don't know
yeah
I really don't know
and this is the
this is the
great mystery
of the Toronto Maple Leafs
they don't release
any friggin information
so the one
the one
little nugget
I was able to take
from Lou
is Travis Dermott
might make the team
that's it
which to me means they need a right-handed guy on D that's it which we already sort of assumed
right right yeah that's it okay it's boring but well hey it's good to know and you know what I
don't find I guess because I'm so close to it and I don't know how everybody feels and I know
definitely fans of other teams that listen to this show probably don't feel this way but
everything they do I'm like who's Miro Altonen tell me about him tell me about Callie Rosen tell
me about who are these
guys how's Renat
Valiev looking like it's
you want to know you
want to know and
thankfully there are
blogs that can help you
with that yeah man
there's a lot of hockey
to watch dude there is
yeah and it's nice to
it's actually fun
watching the Marlies
now like it's really
fun and it's a little
unfortunate because like
interest really tailed
off because they didn't
have Nylander anymore
like Jesus Kapanen and
Leipzig were healthy
scratches at times on
the Marlies last year
It's insane
But now we got this interesting log jam
And we talked about it last show
And we're getting back into the habit
Again, I'm looking at their wingers
There's not enough
Who graduates from the Marlies?
Who graduates?
Anyone?
The answer might be no one
Unless you're looking at
Opening up
Unless you're protecting something else
Like you make a deal and you expose
a Leo Komarov, which by the way, I would hate.
I don't think they do it. No, unless you move
JVR and there's a wing spot.
I've seen both put forward, but
with the numbers I've seen with Leo Komarov,
especially advanced stuff, he's like
a top 10 defensive forward
in the league. He's really good. He's one of the better
penalty killers. Tyler Dello posted
a really interesting thing about
I don't know, some kind of
I don't remember exactly what it was. Basically
shot prevention on the penalty kill.
And there's a reason they had Leo Komarov
who is not a full-time center.
as a penalty kill center.
Because they're like,
well, he's that good.
So, screw it.
I want to see more Kadri on the PK,
but I don't know.
We'll see.
Okay, so,
something we want to mention, too.
Uh-oh.
And for all of our faults,
for all the good and the bad,
we are lucky enough
to have 10,000 followers now
on the Steve Dangle podcast
YouTube channel.
Subscribers, that is.
Steve, you got 60,000 on yours.
Your personal.
Who's counting?
But, I think that's pretty cool
For a channel that's a year old
Like not even
I mean when did we start
I think it was
Well no
It's a little over a year old
It's older than a year
Yeah
It's older than a year
But like we didn't start
Regularly posting
Until like what
October
No no
We've been gone
Since February
Oh really
Yeah
2016
Sorry
Yeah
But I
Jesse's like
I've been going
Since
Jesse's been working it
And I just want to say
First off
Thank you
It means a lot
It's really cool
To go in and read the comments
Most of the time
And
All of the time
time there's always going to be some yeah exactly um but i it got me thinking guys okay so we're
10 000 do you know that at 100 000 we get a youtube a silver youtube plaque that has a little
play button on it did you know that i want it bad i want it too i want two steve's gonna get one
we we have to get one so here i'm still a ways away it's gonna take a while to get there like
okay i think this past month i've gained more subscribers than i've ever gained i'd have to
go in and fact check that, and I still
got $3,500.
If I went up by $3,500
a month, it would still take me
like a year. Yeah. Your pay is
outstanding. Oh, no, it'd be more than a year.
It'd be a long time. Easily.
Well, because it's, I mean, it's probably, it's not, that's not
going to sustain throughout the summer. No, right.
One thing I'm going to try is make more videos in the
summer. I really enjoy disappearing.
Well, no, I don't.
The thing is, is that don't water down your content, right?
Yeah. Make the videos, make
videos while there's things to talk about. Yeah.
Maybe make more videos while there's things to talk about.
We're at the point in the season, like, I might write an article
just about Ben Smith today.
I don't know.
Should I? Yeah, why not?
Even when I pitched it, I'm like, Ben Smith?
I might do it.
Okay, so, my question
is, guys, obviously we need
to boost our subscriber count.
No! We need to boost
our numbers. What YouTube-y things
can we do to boost our subscribers?
Subscriber base.
I was thinking prank videos
We hire a bunch of people
Look here Barry Trunks
You no good bum
I want you
That's what we need to do
What other bad YouTube trends can we copy
To get a million subscribers
Cause there's a lot of bad YouTube channels out there
With a million subscribers
We need to shove
Like a fist full of gauze up each nostril
Cause so many of the video game guys
Talk like this
Oh, do they sound like 80s radio guys?
Make sure you smash that like button.
Yeah, always tell people they can't just subscribe.
Smash that like button.
Smash the subscribe button.
There's a few people I've seen that do like spikes.
Yes, I've seen that too.
All right, everybody get together and like.
Just imagine.
Who's participating in that going, oh, yeah!
They wouldn't do it if it didn't work.
It does work.
100%.
But I just think, like, if you're a person that participates in this,
remember, one day you're going to have to explain this to your children.
Oh, the thumbnail of each podcast, we need to be bleeding.
Yes.
Can you, like, Photoshop some blood, like, for the next one?
Sure.
I think our biggest problem is we don't have goofy, weird-looking faces in every thumbnail.
Like, every YouTube video, it's, like, us sitting at the desk.
Where it's like, yeah, it's always Steve doing it to the camera.
I like Phil DeFranco.
I like watching his show.
What the fuck are his thumbnails?
What are you doing?
Like, he is the world's sorest neck.
He's trying to look thoughtful 365 days a year.
It's hard.
It's hard to do.
And he just puts up, like, this exasperated look,
and there's two Photoshop pictures of someone beside him
who's befuddling him that day.
And they're in circle bubbles.
Yeah.
And he's like, ooh.
He's talking to the circle bubble.
I like the vast majority of the stuff.
honestly it's hilarious
I hate it
it's hilarious
the uh
no it's hilarious
what happens
when you talk about
those like video games
streaming channels
and stuff like that
which are awesome
I love them
but it is
primarily what I watch
did you know that
Adam is a
battlefieldian
oh yeah
that's what they call us
Adam's a headset
and everything
they call us
battle
battle
no battlefrontians
sorry
hello front
and the guy from
Star Wars HQ
which is a channel
that I follow
that does
I sit there
in the Kiss
9825 Studios and have to listen
to Adam watch his fellow
Battlefrontians on YouTube
talk about
some tutorial of some math
that he wants to learn. That Star Wars game
is my nightmare, by the way, because you
can only play it online. Oh, yeah.
And I'm good now. I'm actually good now.
The title on the box should be
Video Game Steve Will Not Like.
I'm the guy who plays
the campaign. Every game I play
the campaign. Someone
was like Halo Reach sucked except for the
campaign I'm like that's why I liked it
I love the campaign
I don't play online I cannot
how do you of all people
have enough time to get good at a video game
that isn't NHL
are you getting fairly good at it?
I'm not surprised
there are some people that are like
it's cool to hear that
you play enough you will
I'm jealous
I've invested more than 150 hours
do you know how much
That's a lot.
More I would play video games if I was any good.
Well, you start out and you suck.
Like, I used to get, I used to go into a match.
It's like anything.
I used to go to a match.
I'm not training for this thing like it's CrossFit.
I used to go into a match.
Without any of the health benefits.
And get, like, and just get shredded.
Like, I'm talking, and I started in the smaller matches.
I didn't do the, because there are 40-person matches and there are 8-person matches.
So, I started in the 8-person match.
So, my KD ratio wouldn't be that bad.
But I'd still lose.
I'd have, like,
Kill death.
Kill death.
So, I'd get, like,
crap dinner
yeah my crap dinner ratio
I'd kill three people
I'm so hungry
I would get 20 deaths
like it would be bad
but if I went into
the bigger matches
it would be like 40 deaths
now
I'm on to
I'm at a point where
like you hit combat master
at 25 kills
I'm hitting 25
30
most of the time
so you're in the 40 person matches now
yeah oh yeah
and winning
nice
but I've got also
a group of guys
that I play with
that constantly
like they're also very good
we've all sort of
progressed together
And they're getting
So usually it's like
One, two, three, four
On the board
Nice
So we're those assholes
That show up at your game
And wreck it
And it's really
But then there's guys
I love that
Yeah, it's fun
But then there's guys
That are
Completely different life
Where he's just like
Bitch
Me
Oh, your mom
Your damn cock
I'm gonna shoot you
Hey, 14 year old
No
It's not like Call of Duty
You can't talk to people
Go do your homework
Little
You can't
You can't talk to other people.
You can only talk to your friends.
So that's the best part about it,
is that you don't get some 14-year-old kid talking shit.
Appropriate trash talk is what makes it fun.
But it's never appropriate, so you can't do it.
They took that away.
In NHL, too, you can only talk to your teammates.
Guess what?
Every time, there was still a fight.
Every time there was a fight.
Oh, yeah.
No, not like a fight, like an argument.
Have you argued with people online?
Yeah.
No, it's not every time there's an argument.
Every time Steve argues with someone is what happens.
I can understand, having played on your team before.
I bet the argument was, are you going to pass today?
Hey, why am I so good in the offensive zone?
Just taking the puck around.
Stop cycling the puck, Carrick!
Sometimes, first of all, he's a right-handed defenseman,
And so I like to carry the puck a little bit when I get that.
Second of all, my teammates knew how to score a goal.
Yeah, go ahead and try that net front one-timer again.
Maybe it'll work this time.
It's like 40% work ratio.
That is both wrong and slanderous.
By the way, it used to be 100%.
Net front one-timers were the way to score.
Now you have to actually do skillful things, which is bullshit.
That's crap.
No it's
Honestly
If you become
Good at something
Then it becomes
Even more addictive
You just have to get through
A couple bad weeks
Of being just
Shredded
That's why
Like absolutely shredded
I just
I couldn't handle
What was it
EASHL
No not EASHL
What's the one
With all the cards
Isn't that
Isn't that
Ultimate
Oh hot
Yeah hockey ultimate
Well cause people
Just pay money right
Yeah which I
Never would
Well here's the thing
So I got all the way up to level 3
Hold on you wouldn't pay money for that
But you paid money for Clash of Clans?
No I paid
Oh yeah I did
You pay money for real cards?
Not anymore
No
I just
I have too many
I just have too many
Of those Tim Hortons baths
Well and here's the problem
So I used
Shut up
I used to
I used to be addicted to the hobby
When I had no money
Now here's the problem
I have some money
Which means I'm gonna spend it
I have a buddy who
He invested
He has four Sidney Crosby Young Gun rookie cards.
Those are $400 each.
Each.
This past year, he got McDavids.
Plural.
He must have a few Matthews.
Like, do you know what money I would spend
under the illusion that I was ever going to sell these things?
Yeah, because you never sell them.
I sold an Ovechkin Young Guns.
It's one of the biggest regrets of my life.
Such a terrible decision.
Well, you should have waited until he retired and made it in the Hall of Fame.
I sold it during his sophomore season.
Oh!
I sold it when he was a rookie.
I needed the money.
I needed the money.
I made $45, which at the time was a shitload of money to me.
And now I'm like, oh my God, $45.
What are they, like probably $200 now or something?
Fuck.
You should just buy it back.
You'll still make money.
I don't know where it is.
It's gone now.
It's gone.
It's gone forever.
It's just dead.
I do have another one
I think I have a Cadry Young Guns
With the jersey in it
Is that worth anything?
Well it's
It can't be a Cadry Young Guns
With the jersey in it
Like is it
Like is it a rookie card
With like a piece of
Rookie jersey in it
Yeah I think so
Show me a picture
Show me a picture
With the back too
I'll bring it in
Yeah okay
I don't want to hurt it though
Anyway
As a
Do you have a soft
And hard sleeve
To put it in
I only have
The soft sleeve
Take a picture
Leave it in your house
As the
As a Battlefrontian
I wanted to get back to that
What I find interesting
About the video game channels
Is those guys are doing
All the things
In radio
They told us not to do
Smash that like button
Coming at you
Through your headphones
Like
Have you ever heard
A radio DJ saying
Coming at you
Coming through your headphones
Coming through your speakers
We're not supposed to
Because it sounds cheesy
And it's dumb
103 days of subber
But
That's what
Yeah
Yeah
That's what you do
Right
And it's funny that
It works.
That it's, well, no, I think it works for now.
I think eventually people will get tired of it, and it will seem disingenuous.
I'm tired of it right away.
Yeah.
There are so many channels where, like, they do cool shit, so I watch them, but I mute it.
Yeah.
Like, I want to watch someone do the Iron Man mod on GTA 5 and just fuck shit up for an hour and a half.
I will watch that passingly, or passively, but I cannot listen to you.
I can't listen to this guy.
You know what I've also noticed as I've gotten older?
There was a point in my video gaming career
Let's talk more about what the kids are doing these days
Well no
You know what I don't get
I would get like 5 or 6 video games over the course of a year
At least
That's a lot
Now I know I'm going to invest in 2 this year
That's it
That's the way to do it I think
It'll be Battlefront 2
And it'll be Red Dead Redemption 2
That's it
That's who's getting my money
Another problem I'm having
cause I'll walk into
EB games every now and then
and I'm like
I'm gonna get a new video game
something I've never tried before
but everything is on
like the 4th or 5th game
of the franchise
it doesn't matter
with like Far Cry
or something like that
you should do Far Cry
Far Cry is amazing
yeah cause that's
different every time
every time
Battlefield is different
but there's so many of those
where it's like
hey do I have to play
the first one
Destiny
I don't wanna start off
on Destiny
cause the story continues
have you played
the Uncharted games
no but I know
I would say
go back to Uncharted 1
and play it
if you wanna play
Uncharted 4
See, that sucks.
I want a Seinfeld game.
I don't want a Game of Thrones game.
Do you know what I mean?
A South Park prior to the past two seasons game.
Yeah.
Yeah, you want to be able to jump in and jump out.
Far Cry is perfect because it's fun, you blow things up, hilarious, and not that deep.
I can get into that.
Especially if you don't like playing online.
No.
Like, Destiny is supposed to be this wicked game, but they're already on at least the second one, right?
Red Dead Redemption is coming on to the second one.
There was one that was just released, and it was supposed to be, like, this great epic follow-up to a really great game, and they just blew it.
Oh, I heard it sucked.
Yeah.
What are we talking about?
I forget what it is.
It's, like, a space game.
Did it start with a B?
No, I don't remember.
I don't know.
Anyway, you're supposed to go through space and, like, colonize planets, and I'm like, wow, this sounds really cool.
And I guess it's just really, really bad.
Is it StarCraft Ghost?
No.
No, but it's bad.
Did you guys ever play Minecraft?
No.
I've heard that's amazing.
No.
all my
you know what I do know
every single one of
Caprice's niece and nephews
plays Minecraft
I would get sick of a game
all day
all day
like there's no winning right
no
no it's just building
yeah I would get sick of
I would have loved that as a kid
because I was intimidated by
the competition
because all the kids I knew
had video game systems
and I didn't
so I wasn't very good
so I would have wanted
to just like build something
and like do my own thing
which I think
it's creative
you couldn't do
I don't know
well like
my thing with Pokemon Go
was you know
It was nostalgia, and it was cool, and it was active, and I would go out.
And after a while, I'm like, okay, now what?
Well, yeah, because it's not a deep game.
You don't win anything, and it's impossible to hold a gym.
And the rules didn't make sense.
I spent zero seconds of my entire life playing Pokemon Go, and I can't be more happy.
You shouldn't regret it.
No, I don't regret that.
I said I can't be more happy.
It's a two-week game.
Maybe a month.
That I spent like $30 on.
Oh yeah, that's right
Because there's nothing in Oshawa
I would come downtown
I would walk everywhere downtown
Because I'm just like
I would run out of room in my backpack for potions
It was the best
I think we're a hockey podcast
We talk about things that relate to people who watch hockey
We haven't mentioned that the Preds are up 3-1
We haven't
I think the Preds are going to win this series
And the Stanley Cup
Go out on a limb there, Adam
No, but like
I think they're gonna win it next game
Fair
I don't
God, the Ducks look good
They did
I don't know, man
And Getzlaff has been a monster
For like a couple months now
I don't know
They didn't look good
In the first two games
No
But I just wonder
If the Preds
Who have been able to contain everybody
Can finally contain him
And then the rest of the Ducks too
I don't know
We never talked about that
One McDavid goal
Where
They lost
But
Oh it was sick
Like I mean
McDavid scored six
Sick goals
Yeah
I just want to highlight that fact
Yeah but they lost
It was a very video game goal
Like just goodbye
And snipe
That was it
It was nice
That's all I want to say
It was nice in it's simplicity
Like it was
It's almost
It was a little bit like that
Crosby play
Against Spezza
a few years ago, where he just skates one way, skates the other way,
skates one way, skates the other way, just to eventually burn Spezza.
Like, there wasn't a whole lot to that other than he just outskated the guy.
Yeah.
Like, it was just—
But it's so impressive because you shouldn't be able to outskate a guy
who's also the 1% of the 1% of skaters in the world.
Yeah, exactly.
It was one move, and that's it, really.
He hit the brakes, and he took a shot.
And what I learned from that was he's a sick skater.
With a wicked shot.
That's all it is.
It's beauty and simplicity.
It reminded me of the Matthews goal when he got the puck off the boards
and how he lacrossed it up over Holpe's shoulder.
Oh, but that was easy, Jesse.
Yeah.
It was really super easy.
How simple he made it look.
No, I'm kidding.
But he puts the puck on like a 65 degree, 70 degree angle.
And he carried it halfway up his stick and then kind of shoveled it over his shoulder.
Yeah, beauty and simplicity.
I used to think you had to dangle the jock off of everybody.
No, Crosby, he puts on a lot of moves and he works really freaking hard.
He's one of the most skilled players in the league,
but he works really freaking hard.
McDavid just seems so effortless.
So effortless.
I'm not trying to say McDavid's better.
He might be.
You're just trying to say he's lazy.
Holy shit, is he going to ruin the league?
And he's lazy, yes.
Yeah, very lazy.
Connor McDavid's lazy.
Let's do the press conference, shall we?
We got some time, so we can let these questions breathe a little bit.
Not that much time.
Do we want to go through the 2017 WHL Bantam Draft?
Yes, next show.
Next show.
But the next show's Tuesday!
Next show.
It's also going to be half ruined for you guys, because it's all in your mentions.
Oh, we won't look at them.
I don't believe that.
I won't.
I'll ignore them.
But they're there, so if you scroll through Twitter, you're going to see them.
I will not see them.
Be cool
Everybody be cool
They're there
No Jesse
We don't have
No
We're doing that next episode
We need a chunk
We have a surprisingly
High success rate
Yeah
And we just say be cool
Be cool man
Be cool
Don't ruin it
Even the Liberty Village page
One guy posted
One guy
We know who you are man
But it's four days
Till the next episode
No
Cause I'm gonna be here
Till 2.30
Wait for it to be done
Wait for it to be done
It's gonna take two hours
To get home again
Yeah
I disagree
That was not a fun drive last time
That sucked.
That's great, Steve.
That really appeals to our audience.
Your drive home, we really care.
You know how many of them are in their car right now?
I, too, know what not having a fun drive home is like.
Yeah!
Thanks, Steve.
Tell me about your math teacher in grade 11.
Well, Mr. Amani, he was a very good teacher.
I heard he had a lot of degrees,
and he'd like to talk about Pink Floyd
when you got all your work done.
Jesse?
if a Canadian team
wins the cup
do you think
they're going to go
to the White House
no
it's been so long
that I don't know
what procedure is there
no I don't think
they would
yeah because
why would they
why would
like the sailing cup
is not necessarily
an American thing
it's just that
an American team
can I throw this out there
when a Canadian team
does win
and that question
comes up
and they have to go
to 24 Sussex which is our White House
but it's not a White House it's just this like
ugly old cottage
we well
better that they go to Parliament because our
where we our Prime Minister
isn't even living at
the at 24 Sussex right now
because they have to put 10 million dollars in
renovations into it because
because it is so bad like
it's embarrassing
on the inside what kind of shape
that place was in there was still asbestos
asbestos on it and like
And so like, it is, it was brutal, brutal, brutal bad.
And so Trudeau gets in and he's like, okay, fine.
I guess we got to put 10 million bucks into it.
And everybody fleeks out and it was like, well, he can't even move in with his kids
because it's not safe.
Like it's, like it's, can you imagine, I just imagine going to the White House.
Can you imagine somebody saying, sorry, you can't visit the White House.
It's unsafe because we still have asbestos.
Like that's how, that's the difference between Canada and America.
Americans are like, we don't like taxes, but we're going to take care of that house.
That's an important house.
Canadians are like, no, eh?
We don't need that.
That's a waste of money.
That's a waste of money.
Which I mean, a little bit.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Anyway, so if they wouldn't do it at Sussex, it would be at Parliament because Sussex is bad.
But it's true.
When was the last time a Canadian team won one of the major North American sports that we share with the States?
Montreal?
It would probably be Montreal.
What did the Blue Jays do?
Why would the Blue Jays have gone to the White House?
They wouldn't make sense to go to the White House.
But it's the great American pastime, and they're the champions.
They didn't go, by the way.
Oh, they didn't go?
Yeah, they weren't.
Oh, okay, good.
So we have a record of this.
Did they go to Parliament or Sussex?
Bill Clinton didn't.
No, I don't believe it was tradition until like 1995 for sports teams.
Can I just be honest?
I think it's a pretty bad.
It would have never, we don't, so there's no precedent.
We don't know.
Yeah, we don't know.
Wow.
Most of the time, it's pretty bad, too.
What?
Like, except for President Obama saying, Phil Kessel's a Stanley Cup champion, which is
amazing.
It's pretty boring.
George W. Bush going in there, Captain Steve Yazerman.
Oh, that was Bill Clinton, I think.
Pretty sure it was Clinton.
I feel like we've had this debate before.
It was Clinton.
And I feel like I was wrong.
Only because I remember it.
It was Clinton.
Interesting.
I find that
I'm picturing his voice
there's so many of these traditions
it's like okay
we can stop now
like who cares
well it always just turns
into a thing
yeah
that's like oh
and then I'm gonna
politically abstain from going
and fine whatever
Tim Thomas
protesting Obama
a bunch of guys
in the Patriots
protesting Trump
I don't know
it's just a picture
I think it's nice for them
that's about it
yeah
I just don't know
why people care
I don't think they do
no I don't think they do
next question Jesse
um i was just looking up some of the stuff on teams going to the white house
used to be an old tradition baseball in 1965 the brooklyn atlantics won the uh
baseball championship at the time and they went to the baseball championship at the time
Because this is 1865
Oh my gosh
And the MLB didn't exist
So I don't know what to call it
And Pittsburgh Steelers visited in 1980
And in 1991
The NBA started going
And then yeah
So it's been a tradition for a little bit
I wonder if the Raptors would go
Nope
We won't have to find out
Listen they have not played
You want to talk about fragile mentality
And LeBron is that good
Make no mistake
Did you see him spin the ball in front of Ibaka
And then shoot a three?
That was so disrespectful
Ibaka's a good defender
This is my thing
A lot of people were ranting about how bad the Raptors were
Are you sure?
Or was it just LeBron?
It's just, not even the Cavs, LeBron
And yeah, the thing is
We're saying the Raptors are bad and they're in the second round
Which the Leafs haven't gotten to since we were in grade 10
He did stuff in that game that the Simpsons version of the Globetrotters did to the Simpsons version of the Generals.
That's insane.
He had a beer.
But also, the Raptors sort of should have walked all over the Bucs and didn't.
That's fair.
And that's where my worry comes from.
I think they had
they had a weird year
there are going to be
some changes in
Raptorland this year
I think
I don't know
Lowry's a UFA
I think Lowry's gone
and I don't
I wonder about
Dwayne Casey
yeah
oh man
didn't he just win
like coach of the year
or something
no
a couple years
a couple years ago
I like watching the games
but like I don't pay
that much attention
this is the most
upvoted comments
on our reddit page
for this week
Steve
when you eventually
get another dog
nope
how about you name it
something that acknowledges
the dog days
of the Leafs past
and your friend Adam's French roots.
How about you name it
Luke Shen?
Shen as in C-H-I-E-N.
Wait, what? Luke Shen.
Like C-H-I-E-N.
Shen.
I like that. It's very creative. Which is French for dog.
I also believe it's French for bitch, though.
Is it? I think so.
They taught us that in school and didn't tell us that?
Well, why would they tell us that?
Like, no, because it literally means dog
but also so does bitch.
So, I don't know.
Uh, I would want to know if I'm being taught a swear word, okay?
If, I don't know, Crosby seems to make the most sense, or Sid, or something.
Well, I can't name it Sid.
Crosby.
You're going to name your dog Crosby?
Why don't you get a-
Because it's Iggy and Crosby.
The whole reason Iggy is named Iggy is because of the Golden Goal.
Why don't you get a Boston Terrier and name it Austin Terrier?
Um.
Austin Terrier!
No!
Yes.
Yes, the answer is yes.
Austin Terrier.
Austin Terrier.
No
No
I don't think you could just name it Crosby
That's
87
You need the
Dempsters
Dempsters get over here
You didn't name Iggy again
Cole Harbor
I'll name it Cole
Name it Matt Cook
Matt
Oh
I gotta pick up Matt Cook shit again
Matt Cook just vomited all over the kitchen
Oh, friggin' Matt Cook
Matt Cook, stop humping Bindi
Oh, he headshotted that other dog at the dog park
Wow, he bit his
That dog's Achilles tendon, it's crazy
Matt Cook, flippers down
Oh
Sense fans, you get that one?
Honey, you're not going to believe this
Our dog is being investigated by Eugene Malek
Can't believe this
Uh, I don't know
I'll pick a name when we decide to get a second dog
Which we won't so shut up
By Christmas
Is my goal
Not my goal my bet
She's playing friggin mind games with me okay
Because every time I bring up the second dog
She's like we're not getting a second dog
And then she'll tell me oh my god I found this 10 week old
Golden doodle at Whitby and it needs a home
What happens first
Adam has a baby or Steve gets a second dog
The answer is Adam has two babies
Steve gets a second dog
Three babies
I'm not a question
Are you?
I am
Oh wow
It's going to be really cool
When your four babies
Come over to play
With the second dog
I am not going to have
Four babies
Four babies
I haven't fully unpacked
My condo yet
I don't know how
I can have kids
I'm going to sneak
Fertility drugs
Into everything
Caprice drinks
And you guys are going to
Have four babies
At once
It's going to be
Like the Simpsons
That sounds awful
Four babies
Hello and welcome
To my nightmare
Our problems are solved
We have banana bread
That would be terrible
That's gonna be you
I'm gonna bring you
Banana bread to help
I'm gonna be
I'm gonna be a big help
Adam here's banana bread
Thanks man
And a Pepsi
And a Pepsi
Um okay so
This weekend
We've got some pretty big games
Is there a protest going on
At your apartment
Yes me
For babies
Right now
Um
We got Ottawa
And Ottawa and New York
New York with a chance
To tie it
Ottawa with a chance
To get the 3-1
Stranglehold
By next week though
Um
We could have
I'm pretty sure
the series could be wrapped up
most of these series
could be wrapped up
by next week
yeah
by
I want to say Thursday
so by my question
Tuesday next week
are we talking about
the third round
if everybody
eliminates this
if everybody that has
the advantage eliminates
I think we are talking
about the third round
my friends
some game
I think some series
could potentially be
at seven games
which by the way
we have not seen
a seven game series
in these playoffs
have you heard
Nate Diaz on Ariel Helwani's podcast.
No, I heard he went off on
Conor McGregor, though. I haven't heard any of it.
Okay, well. I don't know if you've heard it, so
I don't know if I should listen to it. It's great that you guys are having this
conversation on this show. I have no idea.
I definitely thought. Thanks for the context.
I definitely thought what was coming next was
because he said. No, it was
just a question. Well, I guess we'll listen to it.
As friends without our UFC
hater friend Adam there. You guys don't like
Star Wars? It's not that I don't hate
UFC. Rogue One is the
best Star Wars.
I heard Adam say he hates UFC
I've never said that
Adam is wrong and Rogue One is the best
Star Wars movie and if you
Is Rogue One the new one?
Yeah it's very very good
The new one is episode 7
A New Hope?
Was it? No not A New Hope that's the fourth one
Force Awakens?
No Rogue One is newer than Force Awakens
Not in this chronology
But it was just released this past Christmas
Oh okay well anyway Rogue One is the best one
Welcome to Steve's memory.
Which one?
I remember Rogue One being the best one.
You saw Rogue One five months ago.
Not even that.
We watched it together in Quebec.
Or no, you might have been gone by then.
We watched Rogue One.
It had steak.
It was great.
Are the new ones being released after all the other ones yet?
Like, are they past?
What, The Force Awakens and The Chronology?
They went 1, 2, 3.
No, they went 4, 5, 6.
4, 5, 6, and then 1, 2, 3.
Are we at 7 yet?
Yes.
Force Awakens is 7.
Rogue One is 3.5.
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
I thought they were still doing like 3.5 and 4.5.
So they did a 7.
They're doing some one-offs.
Yeah, Force Awakens is 7.
Like what?
When was Force Awakens?
That was the one that was the first new one of the new, like two years ago.
And then when does 8 come out?
8 comes out this year.
This December.
This one that's coming.
So it's not a 5.5.
No.
And then the Han Solo with Donald Glover, I believe, is 2018.
and then the number 9
will come out in 2019
now is that a point
anything
or is it just a spin off
that is just a
origin story
like you know how they do
X-Men
like the Wolverine
yeah
and they're gonna do that
with Yoda
they're gonna do that
with Obi
well no
Obi-Wan's sort of
very meh
but they're gonna do
a few of them
goofy stuff
where there's gonna be
nods to certain things
while the nerds go
oh this is actually
2.2
oh this is before
this one
shut up
He says this
Steve says this
As though he's not the biggest nerd
That he knows
You collect hockey cards
I am a cool guy
Steve's job is to sit on YouTube
And talk about hockey
Sometimes I stand on YouTube
And he calls people nerds
I was telling Jesse
I'm like I'm going to start a channel
Are you making fun of my YouTubes?
I'm going to start a channel called Adam Sucks at Video Games
Because I do suck
I'm terrible
Not when you're a Battlefrontian
Except for Battlefront-ing
I'm basically just going to try a new video game
And suck at it online
And then just watch people make fun of me
Video and Arcade Top 10
Is that what that is?
Do you not remember that?
I remember that game
But those kids were
I used to love hate that show
Because it was a show about video games
And all I wanted to do was watch it
And then what you would do
Is watch four people
Fumble around with a game
That you had no idea how to play
yeah
it's the worst
when you know
you have that game
and you play it
and if you were just there
jump there
there's a whistle
no
shit
how many seconds
in are we
six
are you good
at smash brothers
I'm a good
button smasher
so yeah
that's all I did
I was okay
at smash brothers
yeah
I was
the game
the version I played
the most was
the game cube
one. Yes. The GameCube
one is bananas.
Oh yeah, it was awesome. It's always Yoshi.
It's the only reason to get GameCube is that version
of it. It was so much fun.
Couldn't you get like 16
in a match or something?
Oh, I don't know.
There was like 32 characters. I thought it was 4.
No, but there was ones where you could do
like a crazy rumble. Like Sims or something like that.
They'd come in and they'd be really, really good.
We did one
there was like Sims that would come in, I think.
And I believe that
I thought there was more
than four
I think you're right
and then
at a time in your match
yeah
yeah
for multiplayer
you can only have four
because I vividly remember
sucking
and my friend who owned it
also
got beaten by one of the sims
and we watched
the rest of the match
not playing it
because the sims were
duking it out
but it was fun
it was fun
of course
I want to play that game
so bad right now
I don't think
I doubt a Gamecube
costs very much
so I'm sure you can get one
don't you have Smash Brothers
no
I thought we played it
at your party
oh I have Smash Brothers
for N64
yeah
I've got a working
oh my god
I've got all the good games
for N64
everything
including Star Fox
which is the greatest
I was about to ask
another question
but we gotta
what's the question
eventually
what is it
I was gonna say
did any of you ever
play Captain Skyhawk
I don't know what that is
no what is that
it was a
it was a
like a
fighter jet
in space
game
For the original Nintendo
Like not
Super NES
N-E-S
It was great
Yeah that's the sound
Here wait
Oh boy
All the letters are tumbling
I remember the theme
Oh
It's not a
It's not a visually
Or audioly
That's not a word
Appealing game
Just sounds like a bunch of farts
But it looks like
Oh it's the best
So it's like an arcade
Plane and you're flying through the theme song again man. Oh, okay. I need to get inspired
Captain Skyhawk it was earlier part of that video
The guy didn't stick on it long enough. Okay, what are the games I played all the time?
Also Tecmo World Wrestling did you ever play Tecmo Bowl? No. Oh
It's the best it's the best
All right.
Love you guys.
Talk to you Tuesday.
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