The Steve Dangle Podcast - The Steve Dangle Podcast - May 5, 2016 - Radio Business

Episode Date: May 6, 2016

On this episode, the guys talk about the monstrous Penguins, the shaken Caps, John Chayka, Flames, Sens, and Mike Francesa vs. Rick DiPietro. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adcho...ices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Panago Pizza presents S.T.P. The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde. So I want to know. I want to know. I want to know. No. Let's start off the show better than that. That's a terrible way to start a show. With a Meek Mill reference? You don't like that? No, I want the show to last longer than that.
Starting point is 00:00:24 I want to know. Not even people from Philly like that song. No. Even people from Philly are like, L. Just take the L. The Undertaker didn't like that song. I didn't know he was such a connoisseur. Of the hip-hop. Did he make a reference to it?
Starting point is 00:00:38 No, he did. Yeah, he's like, man, if you're going to use my theme in a song, at least make a good song. No! I forgot that was the Undertaker theme, and that's why I recognized it. Oh, man. Well, certainly not because it's good. No.
Starting point is 00:00:50 No, it certainly isn't. Hey, question. Yes. Are the Pens who we thought they were, and the Caps are just kind of letting them get away with it? Are they who we thought they were? And the Caps are letting them off the hook. Because, I just want to say, the Arizona Cardinals and the Washington Capitals, same color jerseys.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Oh, dear. And Chicago Bears and Pittsburgh Penguins, not really even close at all. But I was trying to make a comparison there that didn't work. Hey, Steve, that's what we call a stretch. Of all the stretches you hear in sports every day, was that that bad? Yes. Was it that bad? Yes, it was.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Was that as bad as all the... I'm just glad I got you that novelty shoehorn for Christmas. It's like a meter stick, but it's still, you get in there. You know what? You know how celebrities come up with lines for things? If we ever get famous, I'm going to come up with a square peg in a round hole that you can buy, or a shoehorn. A novelty Adam Wilde shoehorn.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I'm so sick of this. Oh, we're not already famous? That's Canada's most beautiful person. Yeah, I'm sick of this. What are we talking about? I'm on breakfast television every day, Adam Wilde. Breakfast television. Hello Canada
Starting point is 00:01:59 What is it Most beautiful Canadian No no I'm on the list Of all time No Not of all time Is that what it was
Starting point is 00:02:05 No They pick people every year And there's a list Oh so you're just One of the throw ins Yeah Yeah there's 50 of us Oh it's just every year
Starting point is 00:02:12 There isn't a lot of Canadians So they had to pick Like 50 Canadians That's a lot of Canadians If Adam If Adam killed 49 people Who would be the most
Starting point is 00:02:22 Beautiful person In Canada Oh is he 50 That's it No there's no There is no order it's just a group you killed no because it's like tim hortons as long as it's like tim horton tim bits hockey just get on the ice and you're a winner you know so that one will take
Starting point is 00:02:36 his comparisons are going in a better direction tied it into sports they're improving right last year he finished 30th i know he only got 25th this year but you know what five spots i am the toronto maple leafs you are the toronto maple leafs who i hope don't turn into the washington capital okay so what what is the what's the main crux of what is going on in this series here's here's what's gonna happen or here's what could happen and washington fans if you're listening god i hope i i just just hope on your behalf that's not what happens i think the blues not this year's incarnation of the blues but the blues uh of many years past choked i think the Sharks, of many years past, choked.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I think some Capitals teams of the past choked. The Pittsburgh Penguins are this good. I genuinely think that. They're this good. And they won game, what was that, four? They won game four exactly the way I described it on the last show. No LeTang. I don't think they had Mata.
Starting point is 00:03:47 And Kessel scored a goal from the blue paint. When does that ever happen? Oh, my God. By God, Kessel in the blue paint. When does that ever happen? Well, when he's not playing with two players who do that for him. And their rookie goalie plays like he should be getting a Vezna. And Marc-Andre Fleury's not even in nets?
Starting point is 00:04:02 Has he played a game? Nope. Hey, guys, guys, guys, did you hear? The Leafs are interested in Matt Murray. Oh, yeah. Cool. Have fun with that. We were talking about this last episode, if you missed it.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And the Leafs were interested, quote, unquote. Well, of course they're interested. They're interested in every good goalie in the league. I bet they're interested in Sidney Crosby, too. Yeah, absolutely. I'm sure they're interested in Malkin. I'm sure they're interested in Ovechkin. They're interesting players.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I want Birdman's Bugatti. I don't think he's going to give it to me. But you're interested. I'm interested. Oh, I'm into it. The best part about it, I didn't even realize that was a story until you said it. And then as soon as I log onto Facebook that afternoon to do the Blake and Wild show, boom, it's everywhere. Lee's interested in Matt Murray.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And later the next day. I was like, really? Come on. And he's playing unbelievably. There's no way Pittsburgh lets him go. At this point, like, what do you offer? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Are we even entertaining this? No.
Starting point is 00:05:01 But that means... Marc-Andre Fleury is expendable. He is going to play for the Las Vegas whatevers. Because they're not going to be able to protect him in the draft. Marc-Andre Fleury? Yep, I agree. I think Marc-Andre Fleury and Ryan Kessler will look awfully nice on that team together. There are going to be a lot of very strange trades before that expansion draft
Starting point is 00:05:21 just because they're like, well, we're going to lose them. We might as well get a conditional third from Marc-Andre Fleury or something like that. I'm just throwing his name out there. I mean, there could be a thousand other players. It's going to be very interesting. Oh, yeah. It'll be like a second trade deadline. But anyway.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Task at hand. At this point, I think I read the Leafs, the Penguins pick that the Leafs have. can be no better than 23rd. And I think that's if the Caps storm back and win. At this point, do we just cheer for him? At this point, do we just want Kessel to win?
Starting point is 00:05:57 Yeah, I do. I am cheering for James Reimer. Yeah, it's Reimer, man. I would love to see Reimer V. Kessel. NHL 200. Let me throw it out there before people get upset. Poor Daniel Winnick.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Right? Right? Not even the hit. I'm not even talking about the hit. The fact that he played on the other team the last year. Just brutal. You know... The host is special without the Stanley Cup final? I hate
Starting point is 00:06:30 the thought that a great player is somehow diminished if they don't win a championship. Before LeBron won with the Heat, people were like, yeah, but how many rings does he have? And we've talked about this on the show before
Starting point is 00:06:44 I think we talked about it on the show Wasn't there like an old Los Angeles Laker Talking to Tracy McGrady No, there was a clip floating around And there was a guy Is it Rick Fox and Tracy McGrady? It wasn't Rick Fox It was one of the guys from the Laker team
Starting point is 00:07:00 Robert Ory Robert Ory and Tracy McGrady And Tracy's like, hey, can I borrow one of those? And he's like, no, sorry man, you gotta earn them And McGrady looks so hurt And Robert Ory rode pine during the Shaq-Kobe years. Who cares? Who cares?
Starting point is 00:07:16 The fact that I don't think that Ovechkin winning or not winning a cup this year or ever takes away from Ovechkin. However, there just seems to be this prevailing thought with people on the whole that winning a championship somehow now you're legitimate. and I wonder if that thought and that sentiment is something that's not just weighing on Ovechkin but the rest of the team too I don't know if
Starting point is 00:07:43 that's part of it for sure but I think with the cap era especially there's windows there are windows to make it and the caps I think they could win a president's trophy again next year oh for sure
Starting point is 00:07:59 but what about the year after that and what about the year after that because now because what Ovechkin's a year older than us he's 29 now yeah I mean you can
Starting point is 00:08:09 you can hope for the next two three years that he can do the same thing but then what you don't know it's crapshoot he is a freak you know
Starting point is 00:08:16 and Nicholas Backstrom too I mean if he's if he works out like Yager does why not why not why not he's got those Olympic genes
Starting point is 00:08:26 yep he's got those Olympic genes but like what are the Capitals doing wrong are they doing anything wrong are they choking or are they just playing a team that hasn't lost back-to-back games since like christmas january january and i wonder too you know christmas in some cultures in the cap in the cap era you're not wrong in the cap era i wonder you know there's
Starting point is 00:08:48 every team has weaknesses elliot friedman has said that many times in the cap era every team has weaknesses so i wonder now going into the playoffs you could have a great team but in the cap era if your team's weaknesses match up with the other team's strengths you're toast and you can be done
Starting point is 00:09:04 in the first round LA Chicago doesn't matter doesn't matter every year there's a team that should be in at least the second round
Starting point is 00:09:12 that's not normally with San Jose yeah I mean that's that's why a championship ring is and it is something
Starting point is 00:09:20 you gotta earn because so much of it is skill and also so much of it is luck Robert Ory So much of it is Kobe And so much of it is Robert Rory
Starting point is 00:09:29 He hit a game winning three I remember it Three tenths of a second left Yes he did Damn Yes he did In game six I believe And it was
Starting point is 00:09:36 And didn't that keep them alive And then they won game seven Yeah Yeah Forced game seven He was Bobby Bond He was That's what Bobby Bond did
Starting point is 00:09:43 See how I did that See how I related the two sports Brought it back to hockey Yeah See how I did that Steve Are we going to talk about Mike Darby Help me out
Starting point is 00:09:52 Darnay I think it is Oh ho ho Yes we are talking about him oh adam let me tell you you can have the fame the fortune the handsome face but you know what i get to keep all the free things forever and ever what here's a tweet from uh that looks like july 2nd 2015 from uh mike darnay who is mike darnay oh jesse screen cap so anyway he writes for stuff I don't know, I follow him on Twitter, I like him He tweeted
Starting point is 00:10:27 If the Penguins make it to the Stanley Cup Final with Phil Kessel I will buy tickets for myself And Steve Dangle to see it On record Save your nickels there Mike Wow We gotta have Mike on to talk about that
Starting point is 00:10:45 We gotta Hey, is he paying for the flight too? Yeah, I know Mike, Mike tweets us all the time Yeah, yeah, I forget who he writes for. I'm sorry, Mike. Hey, Mike. I'm a jerk. Mike, how about you include Adam Wilde next time you make a bet like that?
Starting point is 00:10:59 That'd be cool. Thanks, buddy. You should drive me. Should I? Just drive me down to the Spurg. Because that's what people do. Drive me down to the Spurg. Well, I've been there many times.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I can get there in an expedient fashion, sir. Five hours or less. It'd be great if he actually took me to a road game in San Jose. That would be nice, but no. Pay for my flight to Cali. Mrs. Dangle's coming, too. you know who follows mark darnay barack obama what pardon that's a thing damn how do you get barack obama to follow you followers you know barack obama that so barack saw the tweet too
Starting point is 00:11:34 and he's gonna hold mike to it right there you go don't you can't lie to barack i mean he's definitely in checked out dropping mics yeah you know making skits mode like he would definitely do something like that yeah dropping right dropping mics and doing skits and you know legalizing gay rights and all that stuff too running the country listen adam but pushing why do all those things when he can just as easily fly me to pittsburgh right on air force one i'll even slum it and take a bus if barack obama if barack obama flies you to pittsburgh on air force one it is your duty to bring nelly with you and he has to perform air force ones as you're getting on the plane right and it would be extra appropriate if they were
Starting point is 00:12:16 playing the blues in the final right hey which is also a possibility if he buys tickets to the game will you find your own transportation yes and i am not above taking a bus i took a bus uh once uh out there no i didn't yeah i took a bus once in my life it smelled like pee and and peasants are you talking about like a rayhound the music trip in grade 11 or whatever when we went to new york were you on that trip i took a bus to manhattan bus once steve you know what i took a bus this morning to get here i took a bus to abiza you know what you know what i love valid point it's a valid point of i'm gonna steal a steve story i'm gonna steal a steve
Starting point is 00:13:08 story from steve oh and i'm gonna let steve do the reveal because i did not go on the new york trip to which he refers okay but i do remember one thing about it he came back and in drama class he he he says i got this guy this guy was trying to sell me his his cd on the street and he's like he's like he was really adamant that i bought his cd and he's like so i did and he like harassed another one of her friends hey man you want to buy my cd no i'm okay what are you racist amazing and so my friend bought it do you know this story i know who this is um jesse want to take a guess Papoose
Starting point is 00:13:39 Papoose Papoose who was what six months later on a track with Jay-Z I don't know if it was Jay-Z he was on with the Pussycat Dolls
Starting point is 00:13:47 amazing Papoose Papoose I gotta have it somewhere where is Papoose now and he had this Papoose was still doing big things
Starting point is 00:13:55 is he is he Major Keys Major Keys I haven't heard from him in a while what's on Papoose's Snapchat
Starting point is 00:14:02 most people who don't listen I'm trying to find Papoose's latest release yeah exactly He had like this Oh he's married to
Starting point is 00:14:09 Remy Ma What? What? From um Terror Squad Man that guy sold me Remy Ma She's legit
Starting point is 00:14:16 That guy sold me a CD For ten dollars On a corner in Manhattan Well there you go That guy's done stuff for life And he's married to Remy Ma And that ladies and gentlemen Is what happens
Starting point is 00:14:24 When you take the bus somewhere I paid for that guy I paid for that guy's wedding So Steve is gonna Greyhound it down to Slum it down Excuse me I'll take the peasant car.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Does this, and here's, I find this happens so much in hockey. There is a definitive divide in generations in terms of how people handle the media and how people handle their teams. A divide in eras. Jim Rutherford is of the old era. No, just wait. Just wait. I know what I'm talking about. And he, right now, does.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Now, you could have looked at the Pittsburgh Penguins four months ago and said Jim Rutherford is going to lose his job in the next few weeks. Isn't it funny how things have changed? And I'm not saying that Jim Rutherford didn't know, I'm not saying what he knew or what he didn't know, but he obviously saw something in this team, which is immense skill. Yeah, he saw something. Hmm, I should fire that coach.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And then he did. Like, that's what happened. That's what happened. Like, what was the big move? That's what happened You fired the coach And Mike Sullivan There you go
Starting point is 00:15:36 Who was the coach again? Mike Johnston Johnston or Johnston? Johnston works for That's Chris Johnston Chris Johnston Yeah
Starting point is 00:15:45 No but it was Mike Johnston And it's not Mike Johnston Who works for Sportsnet Who used to play for the Leafs Johnston Are you sure it's not Is it Sullivan or Johnston Who's the coach right now?
Starting point is 00:15:55 I'm just going to look it up Okay Not going to work here anymore I wonder though Now I feel I was thinking about him The other day And I was like
Starting point is 00:16:01 what does this mean for him you know like you had the mike sullivan you don't get no no you don't get a ring but you mike sullivan is the current coach okay so mike johnson does this mean that he like when where do you work in hockey after that you couldn't get crosby malcolm kessel tang mark andre flurry matt murray to get to get cohesive and then as soon as you're gone the team gets better we found the new coach of the montreal canadians oh because that's what happened to Michelle Terrian. He was with the Penguins. They couldn't get it done.
Starting point is 00:16:31 They canned him. They brought on who's buddy in Buffalo? Who's the coach in Buffalo now? Bilesma? Bilesma. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:16:39 His name escaped me. They brought in Dan Bilesma and they won a cup. Wow. Jesse, you had something to add? Oh, no, it's okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:46 You sure? Okay. All right. That's a goal. It sure is. I haven't played that game in a while. It was a goal.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Yeah, that is a holy smokes. Now, the rest of the playoff series right now from the time of this recording. Tampa Bay's up 2-1 over the New York Islanders in a series that is very quiet. I mean, I know there's stuff going on. No, game three was pretty loud.
Starting point is 00:17:06 It was. I just feel like Pittsburgh-Washington is just taking over. It's taking a backseat, for sure. But every series, and that's the point, like, how many games has Nashville won in their series? One. Okay, well, you're Steve Dangle. San Jose is up 2-1.
Starting point is 00:17:21 St. Louis over Dallas. 2-1. I think it's 2-1. It is. every other series is 2-1 Caps over Pens 3-1 you notice the Caps got their weren't they the only Caps and Pens
Starting point is 00:17:32 were the only team that played last night one game and the Marlies had them oh and the Marlies who apparently lost to the Devils they lost in an
Starting point is 00:17:40 extremely frustrating game do we want to talk about that now or later well let's talk about it it was very frustrating it was they couldn't stay out of the box
Starting point is 00:17:49 like all playoffs long the Devils looked like the New Jersey Devils at the late 90s early 2000s just clogging up the middle of the ice. Marlies couldn't make crisp passes. They weren't communicating by the looks of it.
Starting point is 00:18:01 They lose 2-1. All three goals scored in the first period. It was agony. Okay. It was agony. I think they'll come back much stronger in game two. Because they weren't able to generate anything on Albany. So they're just going to have to change it up.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Plus, no Sashnikov in the lineup. A little bit banged up. And no Nylander in the lineup. Now, can we talk about that? Yeah. So William Nylander didn't play game one Of round two Because?
Starting point is 00:18:31 He's sick With? He's sick They said he had like a flu or something didn't they? They just said he was sick Why what's the problem? Now there was a picture taken of him recently I think in a pharmacy So I mean he might just be sick
Starting point is 00:18:43 I kind of hope he's just sick But I found out on Monday Because he wasn't at practice He was sick on Monday Which means he was sick on Tuesday But we're talking about practice Steve Not a game. Well, then he was sick on Wednesday for the game.
Starting point is 00:19:00 He was sick. For a playoff game. I'm trying to think of the last time I heard of a player being too sick to play in a playoff game. Particularly one of your team's best players. Dude, around... You just don't know. I think he's...
Starting point is 00:19:13 If they're saying he's sick, he's probably sick. They also said he was sick three weeks ago. So what's the voodoo you think is going on behind the scenes? I hope he didn't catch his cold at the World Juniors. I don't see that. I friggin' hope not. Yeah, I don't think so. I hope not.
Starting point is 00:19:31 He might just be sick. I think... Well, what if it's this? And this is also not good. I have no reason not to take their word. What if it... One of the things that young people tend to get, some young people, I was one of them,
Starting point is 00:19:45 is mono. Oh, no. And the great thing about mono is that it doesn't necessarily go once it leaves. It comes back. Roger Federer had mono for three weeks. Roger Federer then returned to tennis. Steve Mason had mono for a while, too.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Hang on, though. But he returned to tennis, and for six months, man, he was playing terrible. No one could figure out why. It's because he still had mono. It was still in his system, and it was killing his energy. And that's the thing. It's one of those things where it can go away or it can linger. So maybe, listen, this is total speculation.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I have no proof. But as something that recurs like that, if he's sick, quote-unquote sick, I would think it might be something like that. And I feel like in this day and age, you've got to be a little bit more up front about head injury things. Although I'm not sure all teams are. I feel like the Leafs would have their butts covered. Because that stuff always comes out in the wash. It always does.
Starting point is 00:20:37 And if I can just throw something out there, the Marlies have like 45 players. Andreas Johnson took the warm-up skate last night. The way a couple players played in Game 1, I wouldn't be at all shocked to see him get in in Game 2. uh might be tobias lindbergh didn't have the greatest game and he took an elbowing penalty in the third period and on the elbow he uh went to the bench with his shoulder like that so i well yeah you can all see it on the video but it looked like he messed up his shoulder so maybe johnson slots in there maybe slots in somewhere else maybe i don't know if the guy can play center i don't i don't know enough about him yet but it's gonna be very interesting
Starting point is 00:21:18 they got lots of options so we're gonna take our break early on sportsnet 590 the fan because when we come back, we're going to talk about a very successful young person who's about to run an NHL franchise. And it is a little bit scary how young this guy is. All the young. Sportsnet 590, the fan. We are the
Starting point is 00:21:35 Steve Dangle Podcast. The Coyotes are going to promote apparently today a 26-year-old to be their new general manager. John, what is it, Chayka? Chayka, I think. I was going to ask you how to pronounce it. I'm going to say Chayka.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And I've never heard of John, but apparently he was the assistant GM all last year anyway. Oh, I didn't actually know that. The promoting from within. I didn't actually know that. But he's an analytics whiz, as they call him. And he will be the youngest GM in the NHL, 26 years old. In pro sports history. Really?
Starting point is 00:22:06 North American pro sports. How old was Gordon Stelic? 27. Wow. Was he the record? He was the old record, yeah. Oh, that's... We should call him.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Yeah. So there you go. now um that's yes adam that's like i mean that's unbelievable did it when you read that as a human being did you not sort of think what have i done with my life because i sort of did i felt kind of bad i felt a little old i felt a little i feel old now i know he's only two years younger but like one of my strengths um like when i did junior hockey magazine when i that that show back in 2008-9 one of my strengths was i could relate to the players because i was literally their age we had a couple guests on that were i think a couple months older
Starting point is 00:22:59 than i was because i was 20 i was 20 when i was doing that show yeah you know we're having 19 year olds on 18 and guys going oh no i'm i'm intimidated by the host or whatever like i've been watching them since i was a kid i'm like yeah me too he's my boss yeah what do you think i feel that was one of my strengths now like i'll be talking to these marley's guys and i'm like i can't relate to him yeah well i remember at that same time working at kiss and having regularly having interns that were older than me like it was that was that was part of the course i was 21 i'm sure they loved you and i had interns that were 23 24 25 most of the time they hated your They didn't. No, no. They were the ones that reached out to me.
Starting point is 00:23:41 You don't know that. Did you hate my guts as an intern? I was younger than you, so no. So, Jesse, what we're saying in all of this is you are 23? I am 24. 24. So you've got two years to run an NHL franchise and beat this guy. So get on it. I don't know what you're doing here. Correction. It's Stan Kasten who has the North American Sports Record, not Gord Stelic.
Starting point is 00:24:03 He had the previous NHL one. Stan Kasten was 27. Gord Stelic was 30. he's still young man Kyle Dubas is 30 you would have been able to break it but not anymore not anymore I mean good luck to him and if there's any market where
Starting point is 00:24:20 I don't want to say the pressure is off but it's a good market for something like that to happen I would think it's that one you know anytime you really differentiate yourself I don't think you take yourself out of the spotlight because he's the youngest
Starting point is 00:24:37 like if he's a failure everyone's going to let you know everyone's going to oh the coyotes the broke coyotes went young and probably inexpensive and look at them they had a nice young core there
Starting point is 00:24:50 and they screwed it all up screwed it all up with John Treka what's the conversation like when Lamorello calls him up and who's nearly triple his age and he's trying to make a trade with him that's actually really good
Starting point is 00:25:04 almost quadruple almost because he's 26 and Lamorello will be oh now we're doing that there's almost a is there a 50 year age gap he'll be 74 it's almost a 50 year age gap Lou Lamorello was done having children Lou Lamorello's children were probably
Starting point is 00:25:21 halfway grown up by the maybe more by the time John was born oh he's definitely got kids older than him for sure and people keep using the Yager thing like I think Yager was like well into being an NHL player Wow.
Starting point is 00:25:34 No, no, no, no, no, not quite, because we were born in 88. It's pretty close. Right. Pretty close, man. I think it was the year Sundin was drafted. I honestly have to say, hats off to the Coyotes. Dave Tippett apparently is going to play an expanded role, because I think you need that. But I think congratulations to him.
Starting point is 00:25:51 That's amazing. That's amazing. And I wish him the best of luck. Absolutely. But a word of caution, I guess, is, and I mean, some of this could have been lip service, But Kyle Dubas spoke, I think it was a week or two ago, and he addressed the rumors that the Coyotes wanted him. So supposedly the Coyotes asked the Leafs. Were they interested?
Starting point is 00:26:12 They were interested in beginning the Kyle Dubas era in the desert. And he said, he goes, frankly, I'm not ready. Like, I don't feel like I'm ready. uh one thing he says he kind of discovered last year you know in his assistant gm role in that kind of platoon thing they had going on was he's got lots to learn yeah he said he wasn't ready now in keeping with the leaf's doctrine what else was he going to say you know damn i really wanted that job i can't wait to get out of this place it's nice and hot there it's dry freaking cold here it's still may i hate it yeah yeah and by the way everywhere else right now where may is a nice
Starting point is 00:26:56 month not in toronto no no it's a gray ugly ass month right now 22 on saturday yay 22 on saturday by the way that's not fahrenheit 22 degrees celsius everyone four more degrees and you have john shake his age uh what dude does that make i wonder too i wonder if gms are like looking at that like salivating like oh i'm gonna manipulate this kid but i bet he's looking at them going ha i've got i've got all the statistical knowledge because here's the deal this guy's this guy's smart he uh is the co-founder and served as the director of a an operation called stat statletes incorporated oh yeah it's terrible uh at least it's an analytics firm he was also involved also already i don't like if you yeah if you if i can't pronounce your i know what you're trying
Starting point is 00:27:45 to do there, but we should be able to easily pronounce your company name. Wait, Stats and Athletes? Stats and Athletes. Oh, you know. I'm sorry, you have Stathletes. He was involved in all areas of hockey for I guess the Arizona Coyotes, so
Starting point is 00:28:03 the NHL and amateur player evaluation and all that stuff. So cool. Good for him. Cool. I was just thinking your comment about other GMs salivating at calling him. I'm just Imagining a trade between him and the Canucks That totally favors the Coyotes And Jim Benning
Starting point is 00:28:18 And I would have gotten away with it too If it weren't for you meddling kids I'm sorry I keep picking on him Jim Benning's your guy Hey, here's a fun fact Lightning Vice President Dave Anderchuk What?
Starting point is 00:28:35 Made some comments about a couple players Did you done hear that? Did you done hear that? I want to hear his expertise At least it wasn't an owner But it was a VP, Dave Anderchuk Are we going to get to an owner? Well we could
Starting point is 00:28:49 Let's do Anderchuk first A few people saw a certain tweet yesterday And were like Steve, Steve, Steve Anderchuk says That the Stephen Stamkos Era Can I just point out that the coffee has hit Steve? Yeah
Starting point is 00:29:06 No, no, no, not on your person Yeah, the caffeine's gone to your head I looked at my chest. So it hasn't hit me that hard. It hasn't hit me that hard. Remember, coffee just reanimates your corpse. I cannot wait for people to come back to this video and just watch that moment.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Just Steve like, I wonder what Jesse means. Does he mean... Listen! This is why I make fun of Benning. I'm insecure about my own stupidity. So Dave Andertuck says that the Stephen Sam coast era
Starting point is 00:29:37 will continue in Tampa Bay. He says they're going to keep him. And they're going to find a way to keep him. Both sides are going to work it out. Jonathan Drouin, though, not so sure. Oh, this guy? Didn't work out so good for him.
Starting point is 00:29:52 So here's the deal. You've got a guy who is under control and playing quite well in the playoffs. He's been hit a couple times. Oh, Drouin? Yeah. Boy, did he just get lit up by Hickey. It was an explosion on the ice.
Starting point is 00:30:05 It was a fantastic hit. I saw people complaining about it. No, that's a good hit. That hit is fine. And then you've got... So you're not sure about that guy who's playing well for you. And then the guy that you've had issues with all season,
Starting point is 00:30:20 perceptually, can't work a deal out, definitely some friction with upper management, that's the guy that you're going to come out and you're going to say that you're going to keep? Money can't buy me happiness, but I'm happiest when I... Hey, man, they can offer them eight years
Starting point is 00:30:34 and they can offer them... This is why... They can pay them. They can keep them. Man, this is why people come out and say, well, we're focused on the postseason right now. So no one has to hold you. Why didn't he say anything?
Starting point is 00:30:46 I don't know why. I don't even know why he was interviewed. Who's talking to Dave Anderchuk about stuff? I mean, really, Steve Eisenman's the guy. It's nothing against Dave Anderchuk. Did I say Anderson before? Nothing against Dave Anderchuk. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Dave Anderchuk is an NHL legend. He won a cup there. People love him. There is a statue of him outside the arena. I have seen it with my own eyes. it's amazing good for him but why is that not coming from steve eisenman who is a political animal when it comes to talking to the media he's amazing is it is it see i always try to think it's a tactical thing like to distract from all the should brian boyle be suspended talk and drawn
Starting point is 00:31:27 jonathan drew nb maybe uh no i think he was just commenting on a thing that maybe he shouldn't of ought to comment on him and he probably he's probably involved in the negotiation so he probably knows god you know i i it probably makes some people's job a little more difficult but i love how the leafs don't say anything yeah these days yeah it's not really any hot water it's just it just and that's the best part is there's just no around the team it's that feeling in your gut where you're like oh this is gross like after randy carlisle we always go back to this made the fine, just fine comment about James Reimer. That was an
Starting point is 00:32:05 ugh feeling the next day, an ugh feeling for the next couple weeks. Well, and Babcock had a few. He had a few, and he kind of provided enough ammo for the rest of the organization, but Lou didn't really offer much. No. Dubas didn't offer much. I actually saw Lou on Tim and Sid
Starting point is 00:32:21 the other day, and I watched the clip of it because we're on at the same time, and Lou, as an interview, he is so hard. If we ever have to interview Lou Lamorello, I'm going to be sweating going into it because Tim McAuliffe, who is the world's nicest guy. He is very nice. He says, something to the effect of, how do you go about assessing the prospects that
Starting point is 00:32:43 you're going to pick before you go into the draft? And what do you think Lou Lamorello's response to that was? Well, none of your damn business. There was one idea. Jesse, thoughts? I'm along the same lines as Steve. Okay. He said, well, I don't really understand what that question means.
Starting point is 00:33:01 But, and then he went into a thing. I was like, but that's a fair question. How do you go about assessing who you're going to pick? But Lou Lamorello's like, just so you know, it's almost reminding you that he's freaking Lou Lamorello, you know? See, Tim, I got to listen to that clip. It's good. You know what?
Starting point is 00:33:23 You can't just let him answer at that point. You got to cut him off and be like, here's what I meant. Unless you actually don't know what you meant. You can't let him take control. Well, I don't care who he is. Him and Sid were being so respectful. All the questions were above board. There was no gotcha moment.
Starting point is 00:33:38 It was just, what do you want to do? And Lou still had to throw that his way because he's Lou Lamorello. We've got to get those guys on, too. Oh, I'd love to have them on. It'd be great. They'd be hysterical. Oh, Lou, just the best. A couple things before we get to that tweet.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And this is not a big story, but it is an interesting story. Do you remember when, well, do you remember when, last episode, we were talking about the flames? I do. And we were talking about- Sometimes you don't. Brad, yeah, really. Brad, is it traveling?
Starting point is 00:34:07 I never- Triliving. Triliving. I can never remember that. Brad Triliving was talking about Bob Hartley, and they're talking about in the press conference, why did you let Bob Hartley go? And he says, well, he took us as far as Bob Hartley could take us, and there were some philosophical differences.
Starting point is 00:34:21 That's paraphrasing, but that's about what he said, and I believe I'm using the exact same words. Bob Hartley has come out and said the philosophical differences is new to me oh that's awkward do you keep your mouth shut
Starting point is 00:34:38 when you're trying to look for a new job not if you're Bob Hartley I think you get to a certain point and you don't care hasn't he won a cup? he won the second avalanche cup didn't he? he has a cup I believe I just don't remember with who and a lot of guys were assistants
Starting point is 00:34:52 yeah yeah like quinville has one i think with colorado too but i don't i don't remember if he was head coach or imagine he's your like he's your your quinn quinville is your as the assistant coach he's taking care of your like you're the forward you're in the forwards and quinville's your coach not not the head coach but he's you imagine the stare down from your head coach and quinville just be just miserable different shades of purple harley has a cup with the avalanche in 2000-2001. Head coach?
Starting point is 00:35:21 Head coach. That's right, after Mark Crawford was let go. He was not assistant in 96? In 96, yeah, I would guess so. Yeah, his head coaching career started in 98. So yeah, 96. So Bob Hartley's looking for a job. And the Flames are looking for a coach.
Starting point is 00:35:41 You know, another team looking for a coach, Adam. Ottawa Senators. Ottawa Senators. So let's talk about this quote. First of all, it's important to know in this quote, who said it? Or do we want to hear the quote first? I'm going to read the tweet as I read it.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Okay. This is from one John Shannon. Roger Sportsnet fame. Good handshake. Very good handshake. Very good handshake. I wouldn't know, but you guys would, I guess. We'll invite you next time.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Okay. Promise. Don't believe him. Shut up. John Shannon. Tweets the following. Eugene Melnick tells Primetime Sports he expects a short list of two by Friday from Pierre Dorian and the Senators on the Senators coaching search. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Okay. Pretty juicy, I suppose. That tweet's all right. There's some information there. But you want to know the next tweet? I do. I do desperately. Same person?
Starting point is 00:36:47 Same person. john shannon primetime sports talking about eugene melnick auto centers aren't melnick says he will talk to the final two candidates but will probably go with dorian's recommendation unless a guy really screws it up and unless a guy really screws it up is in quotes so hold on so okay steve you're you're you're the you're the owner of the team that i am gming So I have to come to you with two guys that I really like and
Starting point is 00:37:22 I don't get to choose the guy I thought the point was just you choose who you like Adam, you get to choose no problem unless you really screw it up Yeah, unless it's not the guy that I want And I know you're going to interview him
Starting point is 00:37:37 What if Melnick really likes the other guy that you Then you might have really screwed it up Yeah, that means damn dude then how dare you oh do I love that the senators are in the same division as the Leafs
Starting point is 00:37:53 but why are they bad why are they bad I don't know is that a rhetorical question how come they're bad once again Melnick said he will talk to the final two candidates oh they got it down to two but we'll probably go with
Starting point is 00:38:09 what's the best part of this tweet let's talk about that Melnick says he will talk to the final two candidates so the owner is talking to the final two candidates for the coaching job concerning but will probably go with
Starting point is 00:38:25 Dorian's recommendation so first question that I have and then I'm going to get to the problem I have with the tweet what's that? first question do we know and can we look up why is Eugene Melnick rich what did he make his fortune do
Starting point is 00:38:41 I don't actually know Can we find that out? Because I feel like it was some sort of technology company. I believe a blogger tried to write a series of things about that. And some things happened to those posts that he wrote. That's alleged. I didn't say who did it. He ran a pharmaceutical company.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Okay. That was bought out. Oh, that'll make you money. Oh, yeah. No kidding. That'll make you money too. And it was bought out. Holy smokes.
Starting point is 00:39:06 That'll make you money. Okay, so they just put a lump sum of cash on it. Okay, so all right, cool. So he this sounds like to me, let's let's let's base it down to Eugene Melnick is working at Shoppers Drug Mart and he's the manager there. This sounds like he's interviewing somebody for a position like that, not a position of head coach in the NHL and quote unquote, really screws it up. He's going it seems to me like he's going into this like a typical employee. But I got to say, head coaches, not typical employees. We're talking you could hate your head coach.
Starting point is 00:39:38 But if the philosophy is right, you kind of got to go with it, right? Don't you? And what is his grounds for really screws it up? I think if you're a president like Brian Burke or you're a president like Brendan Shanahan or even I think Trevor Linden is the president in Vancouver. I think if you're the president with like a real hockey background there, you can maybe let it your opinion trickle down to the GM
Starting point is 00:40:08 not maybe you probably should yeah that's your job owner I mean the owner is paying the salary and the owner will tell you that what are you paying the GM for what are you paying him for if you're making this decision I mean I know that's nice
Starting point is 00:40:23 just be the GM do any trade you want to make make it on NHL 16 see what the video game says if it's good then make it why not Why not? Who is the president of the Ottawa Senators?
Starting point is 00:40:36 Is it him? I don't know. Do they have one? I don't know. Can they afford one? I don't know. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Hire Randy Carlisle. Oh, my God. Hire Randy Carlisle. Oh, my God. But that's the thing is that they have talked to him. Now, Randy was on a list of a lot of people. And what's great about this is, too, and I believe, Steve, you mentioned this on Twitter, if Ottawa wants to hire Randy, they got to let the Leafs know.
Starting point is 00:41:02 The Leafs have to give them permission. I was like, listen, I know we're a divisional rival, but yep, take him. You didn't even let me finish. No, but please take him. I'll drive him. Oh, I'll pick him up and drive him. I'll pay for the flight. But what's sad this year is we don't get a third round pick from the Ottawa Senators for Randy Carlisle.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Stupid. Piece of crap. Like, that's garbage. Yeah, we lost two third rounders for that. I don't understand. Well, and it's not like you can undo that. but like for a very brief little stint for a very brief period of time you had to give up picks and the leafs just happened to be in a spot where they needed to we got a couple new guys and now
Starting point is 00:41:41 they got to give up too we just won the draft lottery and we have i know we have eight picks in the first four rounds this year i wrote up so let's just be happy i wrote a post a few months ago of all the teams that had to give up uh picks for um managers coaches and gms one of them is going to be a jamie ben like at least one of them yep have you guys ever heard of cyril leader yeah why why do i know that name he is the president of the ottawa senators never heard of him wow seriously never heard of him maybe i'm getting him confused with someone else i thought i knew cyril leader he runs the uh ottawa senators hockey that's how you spell his name i don't think i've ever seen him in an interview no he runs their uh corporation as
Starting point is 00:42:24 president there you go never heard what is that sen's corp uh senator sports and entertainment corporation wouldn't it be great if it was just like sen's s-e-n-z their logo is like this this logo will work with the millennials he has he has a chain and a clock and just it's just him so you're suggesting the public enemy version of the ottawa senator's jersey Why not at this point? I get to make all the decisions. F you. Hey, I don't think that's a great decision.
Starting point is 00:43:00 That's great because I'm the owner. Shut up. I love the time of year that we're in. Because this time of year, it's like all the great stories are just about to squish into one tiny little window. That will give us things to talk about for months to come. All the things. All the things. We are going to know in the next six weeks-ish, eight weeks, what every team is attempting to do.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Let me ask you guys a question. I'm going to be at a wedding on the day of the draft. You're not going to be dancing much. I'll put it that way. What do I do with my phone? If I have it on me, I'm going to be on it all night. If I have it on me, I could pretend like I'll be... I think this is the last year
Starting point is 00:43:50 that you're doing anything on the draft or on free agency day, first off. And I'll say the same for myself, too. The last time that you will ever go attend an event on draft day because you've got to be available for that. I'm a groomsman, man. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I'm just saying you have to be available for that. I'm just saying it's going to happen. I'm just going to tell all my friends that you're not allowed to get married. Sorry, don't get married on draft day. Just don't get married on draft day. It's easy. There are a lot of weekends in the summer.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Take another one. if you want me to re-review them okay guys we moved it to July 1st no what are you ah damn it damn it
Starting point is 00:44:25 no but I gotta like put my phone in a fish tank right and then I'll just come in having said nothing
Starting point is 00:44:34 about anything and I'll just let it all dump out of my head on the show something like that that's what we're gonna have to do well I'm not even gonna be there
Starting point is 00:44:41 for the week before or the week after so I'm gonna miss everything and I I planned this this is what kills me I planned a trip to London for the week of draft and free agency and the week after.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Dude, that's beautiful. So I'm going to come back, and I'm going to be like, I hate myself. I missed all the good stuff. So what did I miss? Well, Sam goes to the Leaf. Austin Matthews is a Leaf. Traded to Arizona for Oliver Ekman-Larsen. He's a defenseman.
Starting point is 00:45:06 And by the way, if you see any trade speculation stuff on Austin Matthews, right before we go here, because we're about to go, people need stuff to write about. Keep that in mind. and remember to look at the website that is posting it. There's a lot of websites out there reposting information that has been reposted from blogs, legitimate blogs, who originally took it from primary sources
Starting point is 00:45:28 like Nick Kiprios and company and Elliot Friedman. It's like if you ever post a video to YouTube and then download it from YouTube and then repost it to YouTube and then download it from YouTube the quality gets worse. Just because there's an article posted and there's a headline associated with that article
Starting point is 00:45:46 on your facebook page doesn't mean that the article comes from a legitimate source now i will say this every single year there's a leafs getting the first overall pick rumor every so now now that we have it now we're gonna trade it now yeah we're just on the other end of it just on the other end of it uh young avery euler's uh video blogger he came up to me yesterday He's just like, oh man, Lee's got the damn first pick. I'm like, let us have one! You take all of yours! You had a hashtag that was make it five, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:46:24 You have Connor McDavid. Give it! Yeah, exactly, give it! Get out of here. Spread the love. Avery, who's the nicest dude. Shut up, Avery. No, I'm the worst.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Sorry, Avery, I'm not yelling at you. We gotta go on Sportsnet 590, the fan, but when we do, when you download this portion of the show, or do the download portion of the show at Sportsnet.ca or on iTunes, Steve angle podcast subscribe you've got to check out the mike francesa audio that we have because he's calling out rick dipietro what yeah for sure that's next on uh this is the download portion of the show thank you so much for listening brought to you by panago pizza it is what's on the inside that counts all right so i'm gonna go on the record right now and say i have not heard this i unfortunately have which is sad but at least one of us hasn't heard it jesse i have not
Starting point is 00:47:08 heard it okay so apparently here's the deal uh rick di pietro called out mike francesa and we had uh we had the original clip where mike francesa was talking to a listener and saying hey you know the the islanders yeah yeah i don't know it's a third-rate organization third-rate organization he's like you need to get over there mike and you gotta you gotta broadcast live from the and mike's like well i don't think uh they uh you know you know how they screen callers like Sir, could you actually do that a little more stereotypical? Could you please be more of a New Yorker? That'd be great.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Now, we have been called out... I'm just working in an office. No, no, no, no, no. You're a garbage truck driver or something. Yeah, yeah. No, we just pulled over a side of the road, Mike. We've been called out for being critical of other shows. And it's funny because really the only other show we ever mention is Mike Francesa's.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And Mark Madden. Well, okay. Or whatever. who cares it's legitimate people by the way it's that's what happens when you put yourself in the public eye is people tend to criticize you as as what has happened to us on multiple occasions make their own podcast yeah yeah come on you know you guys bro come on what you want you know you guys criticize a lot of shows said the person criticizing our show i mean it's all it's all valid i mean if they're saying something we want to comment about we will if we say something people
Starting point is 00:48:36 want to comment about go ahead there's a reddit for that and this comes from at rn's underscore funhouse which if you want to keep track on all things mike francessa that is all this person does and they have something they've got 6 000 followers just from doing that wow just from doing that now mike and rick i i don't have rick's specific quotes in front of me but basically called him out so we're gonna let mike take it from here in the last week a little hard on the island for a couple of reasons dating to how they
Starting point is 00:49:09 do a little of their business and it got back to me that their ex-goalie who does a show with Alan Hahn I don't know what the name of the show is Hahn and Humpty
Starting point is 00:49:19 By the way it's not Hahn and Humpty but it's his direct Mike Francesco is calling out in this instance his direct competition at ESPN radio
Starting point is 00:49:30 because he's on Fox I believe no he's on WFAN but I believe he was right on Fox Isn't that the name of the show because DiPietro's
Starting point is 00:49:34 nickname is Humpty oh is it yeah okay maybe i heard that it wasn't or something i don't know i didn't really i don't know i don't know what the context is i would imagine he's making him he's making fun of himself for always getting hurt right yeah that makes sense did you think that's what francesa was saying i yeah oh i thought it was a diss okay all right cool i was like damn mike that's a creative one that is a creative one we'll keep going on i don't know it's one of these countless shows they've had on you know through the years just another one that's now gonna you know gonna take us on
Starting point is 00:50:06 and beat us and do all the things that we've heard you know four million times in the last 25 to 30 years that's a very New York radio thing by the way
Starting point is 00:50:14 eh? oh they all call each other out yeah Opie and Anthony used to always thump the well look where we are and look where you are and Frances is like
Starting point is 00:50:22 ah that show's irrelevant or whatever it's a very New York radio thing totally ah well I'm here and you're where you are
Starting point is 00:50:29 shut up they all make veiled shots at each other shut up stupid Howard Stern used to straight up call people out and then have him on the air. And then he'd bring him on and be like,
Starting point is 00:50:38 you're not very good. It was great. And they would go on because they're like, holy shit, I get to be on Stern. So Mike is calling out his direct, direct competition. Rick DiPietro and his co-host are on at the exact same time. Mike is. Alan Hahn.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Here we go. Another one that's now going to take us on and beat us and do all the things that we've heard four million times in the last 25 to 30 years. I've heard it like another 100,000 times. But I gather he took umbrage and felt he needed to protect a team that's paying him. And you know what? I might have a warm spot for a team that was paying me through 2029 also
Starting point is 00:51:17 when I did nothing except shoot my mouth off and basically somehow bilk him out of a 15-year deal and have a losing record for my career. But I gather he said some disparaging things about me after I attacked the Islanders. I didn't say anything about him. Obviously, I wouldn't pay much attention to him. But now that he's in my business
Starting point is 00:51:41 and actually is, and I use this in quotes, competition, giggle, but here's a guy shooting his mouth off at a show that beats him. Now, you should understand this.
Starting point is 00:51:59 This would be like Basically, your typical night in Nets, 7 1⁄2 to 1. 8 to 1 on a normal book. 8 to 1, you're getting beat. Just shut your mouth and be happy you got a job to find some way to go every day. Now, this is not for Alan Hahn, who's a good guy, does a good job with the Knicks. Somehow he got hooked up with this stooge and maybe he can get away from it and still salvage his career on the radio.
Starting point is 00:52:26 But, I mean, listen, you, from what I understand, you play goalie better than you do the radio, which doesn't say much, from what I understand, you know. And now the Islanders are winning now that you're basically shooting your mouth off on the radio. So stick to things or stick to, you know, a league you can compete in. And tackling me in the radio business, you know, you're you and I'm Gordie Howe. So, you know, climb up. Please. And maybe you can go to the game tonight and cheer. Get a little pom-pom.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Go sit there. And listen, like I said, I'd be rooting for it. If I'm DPH, I'd be rooting for a team that's paying me $1.5 million, which isn't bad money, through 2029. Which isn't bad money. For doing absolutely nothing. The happiest day of their life was getting out from under that 15-year mess on that contract.
Starting point is 00:53:18 It's a paltry sum you are paid, sir, while I, fancy radio person, make 10 times. oh boy there's so much there there's so much there and i don't know if people from new york understand the way others appreciate the fact that they're from new york there's something about the way he's in our radio business this is something about the way he said in a radio business it just it was very new york oh yeah very new york it's hard to get much more new york than mike mike is now by the way so uh i got to meet a bunch of people at the marley's game last night uh a lot of them uh there was there was a group of girls and i think the oldest of them
Starting point is 00:53:58 was 16 they were all like 16 and under which means they were born in the 2000s which makes me feel sad but they a lot of them don't know a lot of the people listening to the show don't know about the rick di pietro contract and saga so let me fill you in by the way it's older than them On September 12th, 2006, the New York Islanders signed Rick DiPietro to a 15-year, $67.5 million contract, paying him $4.5 million against the cap and an actual salary every year. from the 2006-07 season to the 2020-21 season. And just a point of order on that one, Steve. Back then,
Starting point is 00:54:52 there was those fast and loose rules where you could... Do that. Where you could put a whole bunch of money at the beginning of the deal, and even though you would get... It was the way to get around the deal. So you'd do the Kovalchuk,
Starting point is 00:55:04 which is give him $13 million for the first four years and then pay him $1 million for the last three years. Shea Weber, I think, is still making $14 million. Yes, because you're assuming that these players uh will retire at a certain point and that would there's no cap recapture
Starting point is 00:55:16 and whatever they've since gotten rid of that the islanders didn't even do that didn't even do it they just were like no we'll just play a flat flat rate and you know what i did i defended it a little bit well no no i didn't i didn't think it was a good deal but i did give the islanders the benefit of the doubt of maybe this could work out because he was playing above average hockey for a while there and if he was a an above average goalie in the nhl 4.5 million dollars would have been a good discount the way things were going but he if he was still in the league is making bernier money he's making 4.5 million bucks it wouldn't be a steal until the end of the deal when he'd be like 40 anyway it was a bad deal well and right now so what mike was referring
Starting point is 00:56:00 to uh he was bought out it doesn't say when doesn't say i want to say 2011 2012 yeah so six years, and there's only nine left. The last time he played a game for the Islanders was 2013. Oh, wow. Really? That recent? Yeah, okay. So the buyout was... Would have been then. Right after the lockout, then. Yes. I think he might have been...
Starting point is 00:56:24 Oh, yes. He was a compliance buyout because the cap hit is 0-0-0-0-0-0-0. But, starting in 2013-14 and ending in 28-29, he's going to make 1.5 against the cap. So he and Mike Richards are a million dollars for
Starting point is 00:56:39 well into their 50s I'm pretty sure his goes past Mike Richards 2029 how old are we going to be in 2029 that's 13 14 years from now 13 years from now how many cups will the Leafs have by then
Starting point is 00:56:55 5, 5, not 1 not 2, not 3 not 4 5 yeah and you know what Mike I think Mike makes a really good point here because you know we started on this show the first clip we ran on Mike, we, we were like,
Starting point is 00:57:11 how is this guy on the radio? But we're just like, look at this doddering old man. And yet Mike, that's why that's the magic of Mike. Because Mike stands out and that's what you have to do. And, and, uh, and, and in listening to this, he makes a good point. It's like, no, no, no. You are a hockey player. I am a radio announcer.
Starting point is 00:57:31 You are now in my arena. Do not come at me because you don't stand a chance. And he was saying in the latest ratings book, he's like, I'm beating them eight people to one. But I bet a lot of people tuned in the next day to see what Rick DiPietro had to say about Mike. Or they waited for it to come out on the internet. Or they waited for it to come out on the internet.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Whatever, it's all clicks, man. It's all something. Sure. It's all something. I haven't heard anything from Rick DiPietro, by the way, so I didn't even bother searching. Me neither, but does Rick win because he gets the publicity? No.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Mike wins because his ratings are there. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, because he gets the publicity? Rick benefits from this. Only if Rick is a good broadcaster. That's the thing. There's this thing in broadcasting. Because listen, if you go, okay, so you tune into Rick's show and you're listening to Rick
Starting point is 00:58:16 and you finally hear his response to Mike. But the entire time you've been listening to this Hanson Humpty? Han and Humpty. I don't know. We're not from there. Why are they not using DiPietro? Are you kidding me? Humpty?
Starting point is 00:58:32 Oh, stop it, guys. Anyway, use the name that everybody in New York knows. DiPietro. People know that name. I don't think they associate that with happy things, though. What about Humpty? It's funny. Or Potato Chips.
Starting point is 00:58:47 No. It's a bad name. It's a bad show name. It's bad. Weenie in the butt in the morning. Yeah, that is a weenie in the butt name if I've ever heard one. In the morning! On your radio!
Starting point is 00:58:58 So let's say they listen to Rick DiPietro and this other guy for two hours, just waiting for this damn response, which I don't know why anybody would do that. then they've got to listen to these guys and they've got to hear them and go, oh, well... Oh, that's why. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:14 It's the same reason why people have the same routine in the morning and the same routine in the afternoon. It's because they like what they like and that's the thing that they like. So they're going to go and they're going to listen to Rick, maybe, or maybe not.
Starting point is 00:59:27 And unless Rick is incredible and can pull them out of their routine, which, dude, just started, I don't, I think, anyway, I don't know. Yes, I mean, there's a chance, But I don't think people are just leaving a guy Who's been on the air for 25 years in New York In the afternoon
Starting point is 00:59:41 Devil's advocate And let me put this into terms that everybody can understand Drake vs Meek Mill So Drake Very calculated about the whole thing Completely smokes Meek Mill Kind of ruins him What if
Starting point is 00:59:58 It doesn't take Meek Mill four days to respond And He comes out with another diss track And he completely smokes Drake before that rivalry who was bigger well drake was bigger exactly and he just goes here you go meek here's a perfect chance to benefit from this i don't think meek benefited from this you know what i mean yeah so even though meek got totally smoked the opportunity was there right and would drake's album have sold as well no had it not been for that meek mill beatdown no what was there
Starting point is 01:00:33 steve what what was there for meek was there an opportunity opportunity and he didn't make the most of his opportunity wow wow uh i forgot mike babcock was a was a big fan um of all that stuff but the opportunity is there for for uh for dp etro to to clap back if you will there's another unsuccessful diss track jaw rule exactly I'm so old so there's a guy who tweeted me this morning and it has to do with this hello Canada's
Starting point is 01:01:08 most beautiful which which I'm on they were making fun of me on BT this morning of course and his his name is Hogan but his at on Twitter is
Starting point is 01:01:24 TWIDR O-N-T-H-E-S-H-I-D-R. Do you know what that sounds out to be? No. Twitter on the shitter. Oh, well. So Hogan's comment, I don't think Hogan's a podcast listener.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Hogan's comment is predictable, he says, but I actually think it's pretty funny. He says, if Adam Wilde dyed his hair blonde and turned sideways, he would be the spitting image of Beavis. And I got to give Hogan credit. I would not expect that kind of tweet from a guy with that Twitter handle, but I got poetry snaps, poetry snaps to Hogan.
Starting point is 01:02:09 That was funny. I think that was actually really, really good. And Jesse, you started a random Steve Dangle Photoshop contest for some reason. Yeah, I did. I'm going to throw them in this podcast video. There's a Snapchat of Steve looking majestically out the GoTrain window. so i said hey photoshop contest let's see what you can photoshop into um this picture that is amazing oh i can't believe how good like there's one with i can't wait he's on the lakeshore yeah
Starting point is 01:02:37 that was that was oh my god and it's so beautifully done like it's perfect it looks like he's actually looking have you seen that someone was like you're looking you're looking out the window yeah and you're looking at your phone right now and i know that you missed out on the entire part of this conversation i did but trust me you'll be happy okay okay cool that's fine but so it's you looking out the window and it's a picture of lakeshore which is a lake shore after the renovation and then there's keys on the ground major keys but like you know keys no i know yeah it's amazing what i'm such a letdown steve's reaction to that is such a letdown he's distracted right now because my reaction to something else all right what do we got what do we got this is gonna be good i feel
Starting point is 01:03:18 I also want to bring something up after. And then we've got to get into the press conference. No, that's not it. Shoot. No, shut up, because it's brand new. It's breaking news, goddammit. What? What?
Starting point is 01:03:40 Okay, fine. I won't bring up the fact that we just missed the first round of the WHL draft. you know that was a huge bit we did you know what I was
Starting point is 01:03:51 about to bring up all the fucking names you know what I was about to bring up the first round of the WHL draft oh really cool
Starting point is 01:03:57 I could have done that without making myself look like a dick fuck you guys alright so we missed the first round of the WHL draft
Starting point is 01:04:05 on the Adam and Jesse show this is the second show by the way where Steve has walked out yes second show in a row for anybody listening Steve walked out
Starting point is 01:04:18 That's the second time You've done that this week You guys know nothing About the podcast business So you guys If you want to step to me In round one Of the WHL
Starting point is 01:04:30 Bantam draft Which we did last year And it was amazing I guess I can put my phone down 22 teams drafted Actually one pass So 21 I can't believe it's been a year
Starting point is 01:04:38 Yeah Wow Anyway keep going There was two Jacksons Two Spelled differently They were drafted 16th and 17th One chose to use the traditional spelling of Jackson
Starting point is 01:04:52 Oh no And then the other one went J-A-C-S-O-N Should've dropped the K Oh for fuck's sake No it's Jackson A-A-Ron A-A-Ron Yo it's Jason I don't even care
Starting point is 01:05:11 That's not Jackson where's D-Nice there's there's two Bradens oh no there's two Bradens Braden was big when we were growing up too
Starting point is 01:05:23 but but there's there's a but cause there's a Caden how does one spell Caden so if you put Braden and Braden
Starting point is 01:05:33 together with Caden are they the BBK line depends if they spell it with a K tell me it's the BBK line they went And when they crip-wop like, that's what's up? Crip-walk like, that's what's up?
Starting point is 01:05:46 You know, lean back? Come on. That's B2K, by the way. Anyway, sorry. K-A-E. Put all your body weight on that, Adam. K-A-E-D-A-M. It's Kaden.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Kaden. Yes. First overall is Peyton. Okay, well. Peyton. How does... Peyton's spelled like Peyton. There's a lot of Dins, by the way.
Starting point is 01:06:10 No, it's the new thing. Caden, Brayden? Second overall, no. Kirby. No. You swallowed the first pick overall, and then spit him back out and stole his ass. I was going to say, I hope he doesn't suck.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Oh, man. Why are you naming your kid Kirby? Are you deaf? Come on. So shout out the draft this year. All right. Nobody on this show is allowed to name their child Kirby, okay? No.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Kirby is the video game character and that alone. Or Payson. Payson sounds like a Star Wars name. Payson. Ah, Payson. Finally, you have arrived. And then we've got the regular names like Liam and Trent and Ethan and Taylor. Hey, is it weird that my girlfriend has a list of baby names on her phone?
Starting point is 01:07:02 No. No? No, it's just kind of something. And the thing is, I discovered this about a year ago, but the thing was she had it way before she even met me. like she knew she's been keeping track of names that she likes oh she knows what the wedding's gonna look like too like you are secondary you're just the groom that goes in the groom slot like okay so she's just waiting so she was filling the other slots and then the groom
Starting point is 01:07:25 slot just happened to be yeah she's already got her the colors picked out that she knows what everyone's gonna wear the the venue the the food you're just kind of the guy who shows up in a suit although she has what you are gonna wear picked out as well you don't get a say in that yeah it's not weird i mean and actually i'm okay with that because she's she's good stylist so i would that is true but that look you just gave where you're like that's not entirely true no it is it is it's true okay oh it's very true well good good stuff to look forward to less decisions i have to make and then you can get married and have beautiful children named kale and Payson? No, they will not be named Cale.
Starting point is 01:08:05 And Trentland. I was worried that you guys would be freaked out by that because I thought for a moment that gave me pause when I first found out. I was like, is this weird? You know when you have moments in a relationship where you're not sure what normal is supposed to be?
Starting point is 01:08:21 Every day. Yeah. Do other people do this or is it just me? Am I the only person in this particular situation? Which you can't be, mathematically. Hey, if you don't want to stress yourself out, never check her Pinterest until you have to. Deal.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Let's do the press conference. The Presser SDP. The Steve Dangle Press Conference. Adam. Yeah. Did you say that the Penguins didn't stand a chance against the Capitals? I did. I think I did.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Luke has a problem with you because now they're up 3-1. Well. Luke has a problem with you. Because he has hindsight Luke has a problem with you Because fuck your predictions It was incorrect If Luke has a problem with me
Starting point is 01:09:14 Where was Luke four games ago? Not making shitty predictions, Adam That's what you were doing What did Luke actually say? Why does Adam think that the Penguins Didn't stand a chance against the Capitals? They were the best team over the last month and a half and went out hot into the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:09:32 And I think Luke's 100% right, and I think I completely misjudged the situation. I mean, as happens with predictions. You just don't know. And that's why I hate predictions, but we still make them because they're entertaining. And I think, you know, you look at the Washington Capitals
Starting point is 01:09:46 who were not just good for the last month. They were good the entire freaking year. Presidente Trophy. And did they not win 53 games? Something like that. It wasn't a... Ovechkin had almost as many goals. Pittsburgh has shown weakness.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Ovechkin and the Capitals have not shown that much, that kind of weakness. Over the season. Yeah, they've shown a cohesiveness and a desire to win, and not that Pittsburgh hasn't, but they were pretty shaky for the first three months. And anyone can be hot. Sure.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Anyone can get hot. So, that wasn't actually that bad. I thought it was going to be like, F you, F the horse you rode in on, F your parents, which the internet tends to be like. I don't know. I think it's part of why it's 3-1 right now
Starting point is 01:10:29 is what I said heading into the series was that's actually a pretty even series on paper and the Caps had a war
Starting point is 01:10:37 against the Flyers the Penguins had a cup of tea against the Rangers yeah yep I still stick with it I'm still sticking
Starting point is 01:10:44 by my prediction because I made it I think the Caps are going to win oh wow Adam but I'm cheering for the Pence that's both sides
Starting point is 01:10:52 Adam is the guy on the Titanic playing the violin that's what a violin sounds like Should Austin Matthews wear the jersey number 67? No. Was his childhood idol Robert Zvella?
Starting point is 01:11:08 The no. Okay. Or Max Pacioretty. Well, now, here's the problem. Do you know what his number is, Adam? No. 34. What's wrong with that?
Starting point is 01:11:19 That belongs to a friend of mine. Oh, James. James. Well, I'm sorry, but if Auston Matthews decides to wear the number 34 for the Toronto Maple Leafs, he will be the best number 34 the Toronto Maple Leafs have ever had the second he steps on the ice. Shit! The minute he puts on a skate. How about
Starting point is 01:11:48 I take the other skate And I throw it at your beautiful Hello Canada face How about that Adam You don't put that evil on James I didn't put evil on James I just said Austin Matthews is a great hockey player That's another thing by the way
Starting point is 01:12:05 I see that on the internet a lot It's like okay I think so I said that And Steve's like Well that's a diss to someone else And I was like I haven't even mentioned anybody else Listen you tricky fuck I'm just saying. I know exactly what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:12:18 I've mentioned nobody. Here's a question. What's the question? We have a question from Steve Dangle. Jesse, what's the question? Have you seen the first round of the WHL draft? I'm good to just bring this down. Let me look for it.
Starting point is 01:12:36 It wasn't as good this year, man. It wasn't as good. No, you weren't a fan of Kirby? I mean, other than my sick-ass jokes about him swallowing up the first pick stealing his hat i i thought that was pretty funny that i totally talked over that's okay um james reimer re-signs in toronto you think so no i'm just saying if he does who gets to wear 34 the best player to ever wear 34 for the you do not re-sign a player and give him a different fucking number yeah james gets to keep that the rookie has to change yeah he does because james
Starting point is 01:13:08 has been there and he's he's a good guy and he's he'd be like a moral leader in the dress You're in your spot, Rook. Yeah. Show some class. Give them your number. And 33 is more of a round number anyway. It's a goalie number. 34 is a weird number.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Yeah, for a player. Someone tried to tell me, I wore 33 once, and someone tried to tell me that was a goalie number. I was like, no, that's Chris Draper's number. That's why I picked it. 39 was a weird number until Dominic Hasek made it his own. Right. And 57 was a weird number until Bob Wren made it his own. And also Sean Hines.
Starting point is 01:13:40 There he is. Bob Wren, the only reason I remember Bob Wren is because he wore 57 and I was like, that is a weird number. You are wearing a ketchup number, sir. Weird. I saw, I'm not going to say what player it was,
Starting point is 01:13:55 but it was on Facebook. They posted a picture of themselves at training camp and the number they were wearing was something like 56 or whatever and one of his teammates commented on the picture 56, eh? Wow, you're probably going to make the team.
Starting point is 01:14:11 You're probably going to make it right out of camp Wow, that's bad That player never made the team Press conference Someone wants to know the context Of the podcast art photo What's the podcast art photo? You sitting on the bench outside of CBC
Starting point is 01:14:27 Oh, a lot of people think I got that lady In the background to pose No, she was just kind of walking by Yeah, and there's people They'll ask us How did we come up with that for the podcast The truth is, that picture existed long before this podcast ever did. You just took a photo.
Starting point is 01:14:43 No, you know what? Yeah, it was like, here's a photo. I wanted to get some professional-looking photos that weren't just screen grabs. Of you yelling in your bedroom. Yeah, basically. I got my buddy Nate to take some photos, and we were outside CBC, which... I don't know. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Go ask me in 2012 when I took the pictures. I think it's a nice picture. Fuck you. I just want to know the content. I don't think that necessitated it No I'm kidding Where'd you take that photo Fuck you
Starting point is 01:15:15 You listen to the podcast you're super supportive Hey listen you're in my arena You know You ask me about pictures I take tons of pictures I'm in the picture business No that is Glenn Gould on the bench
Starting point is 01:15:33 Outside CBC And lots of people take pictures On that bench And that's a particularly good one Well done, Nate Thanks I posed, I'm the art I think we're out of questions
Starting point is 01:15:49 You know the thing that we have never done And we've talked about doing many times There's lots of stuff that we've talked about doing many times on this show That we've never got to But one of the things is actually get a picture of the three of us Professionally done What do you mean no? We've just never done it
Starting point is 01:16:03 It bugs people and I think we should keep it that way Yeah, I don't want to... Oh, let's stand back-to-back with our arms crossed. Shoving buds. Yeah, like, no, we're not shoving buddies. Well, I'd like to have... Hey, wouldn't you like to have your face on this podcast at some point? It is.
Starting point is 01:16:17 No, because people... You realize that people have no idea that you and I are even on this show? If they watch the video, they know. True. The hardcores know. Oh, those are Steve's shoving buddies. Oh, the Steve Dangle podcast that he does by himself. Nobody thinks that.
Starting point is 01:16:31 They don't know. If we do a photo shoot, can you give me the this guy? Yeah, this guy. I'm not doing that. Watch out for this guy. This guy is crazy. Oh, that one? Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:16:42 This guy. This guy. Both of us. Or spinning generic guy on the bottom. Show's coming up five o'clock, Fox. Woo! Just spinning. Just spinning.
Starting point is 01:16:56 I'm not doing that. What about the one where they're not just shoving each other out of a jest? They're all trying to fight to be the one in front. Yeah. You know that one? No, no, this is my show. Nuh-uh. Said the cantankerous co-host.
Starting point is 01:17:13 This is my show. Nuh-uh. Man. Can we do a photo shoot like that? Just to have... You know what? You know what we should do with our video? You know how the NFL
Starting point is 01:17:25 And they do this a little bit in the NHL Now too, and you see it in soccer and stuff They'll have, when they're introducing the players at the beginning of the game They'll have them walking up towards the camera And then the graphic has their name and their stats And stuff, we should have that In the bottom corner, and we're just shoving buddies For the entire hour and a half
Starting point is 01:17:42 That we do this show Like it's just constantly there as a watermark See, but some people might not get That we're doing it sarcastically And then they just think that we're awful Good. Great. Good.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Good. And we'll just have it on a loop. Because I don't want to shove you guys for an hour and a half. We won't even say the right name. With Payson Dangle. And Kale Wild. And... Can I be Caden?
Starting point is 01:18:06 Caden Blake. That's actually... Or Blake Caden. Caden Blake sounds like a cop drama. Like you're the lone detective. Caden Blake. Can Matthew McConaughey play me? I was a cop
Starting point is 01:18:19 way before anybody paid me to be one I drive a Lincoln I just liked it alright so we're gonna we're gonna wrap it up gentlemen we're gonna wrap this up
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