The Steve Dangle Podcast - The Steve Dangle Podcast - Nov 8, 2016 - Everybody Hates Steve

Episode Date: November 8, 2016

On this episode, we finish the Leafs-Canucks debacle (until next game), talk McDavid-Crosby, Oilers and Habs getting respect, Torts, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Panago Pizza presents S.T.P. The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde. Ladies and gentlemen, we have two extremely stupid headlines. Which one do you guys want to hear first? Do you want to hear the NHL stupid headline? Or do you want to hear the Curt Schilling stupid headline? Ooh, Curt Schilling so that we get it out of the way? Okay, alright, because it's election day

So this is fun, so Curt Schilling This is less of a headline, more of a tweet But I'm going to count it as a headline Because, whatever So, Curt Schilling tweets a picture And it's of a guy at a Trump rally That says What is it? Journalist rope tree

Some assembly required And he writes, okay, so much awesome here Dot, dot, dot Now, he also then took a video of a guy talking about being politically correct. Now that's ruining the world. He's a comedian and it's a very funny little bit. And he's like, I was being sarcastic

world. I was being sarcastic. And I thought to myself, okay, so you want to make a lynching joke, which, you know, by the way, America has a bit of a history with lynching. A little bit. A little bit of a racial history with lynching. So there's some context there as to why people might get offended

by it. I think it would be hilarious if we came up with a t-shirt that was like you know knife um knife ankle uh ketchup stain repeat uh do you think we could come up with a t-shirt like that and how well would it sell because then we would just be stooping down to this imbeciles level this imbecile talking about sarcasm and then people getting offended so wait if if you were being sarcastic about that curt if you were being curt about it yes if you were being sarcastic about it dude who wants to run for office because now any idiot can run for office that's democracy and god bless it but if you were being sarcastic kurt that means you

don't like the shirt you're saying it's awesome but you're being sarcastic which means you don't like it you idiots wow don't know what sarcasm means you idiots damn i feel like an idiot for not even recognizing that ah shut up kurt you can pitch a baseball that was the only thing you were ever good at shut the hell up hey kurt what's the matter with you what's the matter with you the second what's the matter he doesn't know the definition of sarcasm all right and moving on kurt's your your old racist uncle anyway um dumbest headline actual for today and this is really a headline uh is who is better after their first 58 career games crosby or mcdavid Now, where is this from?

All over. Well, it's from a competing network, actually. But everybody today, I can't just put it on them. Have Crosby and McDavid hit a wall? Yeah, which also that same network posted. It was Austin Matthews. Now, here's the thing. I understand where they're going with this.

Sure. Because the matchup tonight is Crosby versus McDavid. I think, therefore, it's relevant. It's relevant. And here, I'm going to stick up for it because I, myself, have been bringing up some quote-unquote irrelevant things. So now, once a week, when the Leafs are about to play a team, I like to do this thing that I'm starting to call branches. Which is going through an old Leafs trade with that team and just looking through all of it. Now, why would I write that?

Why would I write that? Because it's interesting It's interesting But it's also just something Loosely connected to the matchup that night What can I do to compare The Oilers and the Penguins? Well, there's really not a whole lot

I know there's Crosby-McDavid What can we really compare between the two? Career matchup I mean, they do that every time Crosby and Ovechkin play Okay, okay So you can't So what can you do?

You can compare their first 58 games And I appreciate that But you're literally It's air There is nothing At least with your branches thing Your branches articles Which by the way are pretty interesting

I know They actually happened These things actually happened The first 58 games Which this comparison is literally People from Edmonton are going to say McDavid People from Pittsburgh are going to say Crosby And the rest of us don't care

I don't understand The rest of us get to decide Oh do we Well that's great And you know what It doesn't effing matter No, absolutely not. It doesn't matter!

I will throw this out there, though. Okay, what are the numbers? What are the numbers? I don't even know, because I don't care. Okay, fair enough. I read the article, but I read it this morning very, very early. What's the answer? I want to know!

The points are almost the same. Jesse, tell me who's better. Points are almost the same, but it's actually a video, so I'm not going to pull it up. I think I retweeted it last night, and I'm looking for it right now. Anyway, their numbers are very similar. So, what I would argue, since they have similar numbers, oh, here it is right here. Thank you.

Crosby, in his first 58 games, 28 goals, 37 assists, 65 points. No, sorry, first 58 games. 28 games would be incredible. McDavid, 21 goals, 41 assists, 62 points. So Crosby is only three points better. I would argue McDavid's 62 is more impressive. because Crosby's first 58 games were in the 2005-2006 season when you got 10 goals just for putting a jersey on.

Everyone had a 30-goal season that year. Who was on his team at that point? Who, Crosby? Sergey Gonchar. Oh, yeah, Sergey Gonchar and no one. And Mario Lemieux. Well, and Mario Lemieux, but that team was bad. That Pittsburgh Penguins team was horrible.

Crosby had 100 points that season. Did he really in his first year? He had over. Rookie year, yeah. Holy smokes. Ovechkin had like 120. Wow. Yeah, Ovechkin was nuts.

Or no, Thornton, I think, won the Art Ross with 125. That's not going to happen again. Well, yes, it is. The pendulum will swing. It's just goalies got smarter. Now players are starting to get smarter. Right now we're like, wow, you were a point a game? Well, no, the uptick in scoring this year, I think, is indicative of the fact the players are actually getting smarter and learning how to score again.

It's good. Pendulum swings, right? Goes back and forth. Now, I just, I feel like we're making a little bit too much of a guy who's played less than 60 games in the NHL. Sidney Crosby has played way more than that at, oh, you're talking about Conor McDavid. Conor McDavid. I wonder, I question, is, and this, you know, be mad at me for this or, you know, that sort of thing. But yes, McDavid is undeniably top three, maybe the best player in the world right now.

Just looking at his skills. But what has he accomplished? You just answered your own. First of all, he captained Team North America at him. That's a team more prestigious than the Oilers themselves. I know this is very hot take of me. But McDavid, can we just chill on the mania for a little bit? No, we absolutely can't.

He will chill on the McDavid Mania when he gives us a reason to. Yeah, when he retires. Yeah. I don't know. Chugga, chugga, chugga, chugga. He's too unreal. He's too unreal.

The debate is Crosby. Everyone seems to acknowledge that Crosby is the best player in the league. Year in, year out. Yeah. You know, sometimes they like to say, oh, Claude Giroux took the title. Or this year, Patrick Kane took the title.

No, year in, year out, it's Sidney Crosby. People are trying to argue that that's McDavid already at 19 years old. So I get it. That's somewhat interesting. That was very hot take. I don't think it's hot take.

It's just like, okay, like, is this going to be... No, Adam, what? Is this going to be... You don't make a big deal about McDavid. No, that's not what I said, though. I don't think he's going to pan out.

That isn't what I said. What I said was... When does he get traded to St. Louis for a third? Can we just... Can we find a different angle? Or is it always going to be... Is it every team that McDavid plays this year,

is it going to be McDavid versus fill-in-the-blank? You know what? I think last year we were robbed of it a little bit. So we're getting our McDavid rookie mania out in his sophomore year. Which we didn't have with Crosby. Last year he didn't come to Toronto. He never faced Crosby either. He didn't face Crosby last year?

No, McDavid, he lit the Leafs up last year. There was one game. Not in Toronto. That was his first trip to Toronto. It was. It wasn't his first time No it was his first trip to Toronto Because Toronto went out there last year

Okay I just remember the psychotic LFR that I made about it Where I was talking to an orange ball That was supposed to represent the lottery ball That the Leafs were apart from getting McDavid Like Gretzky came out to see McDavid It's a big deal I don't know I guess what I want to hear about maybe

And maybe I'm weird Is the fact that the Edmonton Oiler team Has done so well Right? Like no one's taught I haven't seen one article about Hey the Oilers are in first When they were in first

I know it's just a month in, but the Oilers are in first. Like, that's a big deal, man. No one seems to be ready to give the Habs their due, and no one seems to be ready to give the Oilers their due. That's my point. And I don't mean, this was not a slag on McDavid, so don't anybody take it that way. Obviously, Connor McDavid is probably the best player in the league,

and I think he's going to win the scoring championship this year. Barring injury. Crosby. Unless Artem Anisimov keeps this up. Yo, Crosby, doesn't Crosby lead the league in goals already? six less games than everybody else. That's stupid.

Don't you just hate the Penguins right now? Just for being so good? I think he sat the first six games out just going, no, no,

I'll give him a head start. And then he just decided to come and ruin everyone's fun because he's Sidney Crosby and he can't. I wish we could look up all the tweets

from the people last year who were like, I wonder if this is the year he falls off. Remember when, who was the guy before, Mike Johnston, is their coach now?

No, no, no, he's the one who got fired. that was the one that got fired when he was the coach Sullivan yes Mike Sullivan it's a bunch of Mikes

that's the confusing part when Johnson was the coach I would love to look up tweets from just that time especially in Pittsburgh when they're like oh man this could be the year that we gotta blow it apart

and send Crosby away like we even said what's going on right I would just love to pull that up yeah I guess I guess I feel like I look at the Edmonton Oilers I'm like

yes I get the Connor McDavid thing but for the entire first month and I guess partially too because they rolled through town and it was McDavid versus Matthews and whatever. I want to talk about the fact that the rest of the Oiler team looks really good.

As in, hey, they finally have a goaltending. Oh my, a goaltender. Oh my God, their defense is stabilized. What a surprise. And they have depth at forward. Like it's, this is actually a pretty good team. This was the really interesting thing about the Hall-Larsen trade

is that that's not fair value for Taylor Hall. That was always the argument. But they took some of that money. They used it on Lucic. Oh, well, that contract is way too long. Okay, but here and now, they get Lucic and Larson, and they got Puglia-Yarvey. And Drysaddle's playing the whole year.

That's 100% true. Drysaddle plays the whole year. Nurse is going to play the whole year. McDavid will hopefully play the whole year. It's a different team. The Oilers look way better last year If they have McDavid the whole time We just thought they can

We just thought they were still that bad Because they didn't have McDavid for half the season Like this has been like what 12 years and they finally turned the corner That's the story to me I think it's time to start talking playoffs I'm not saying they're going to make it I'm saying it's time to start talking

I am They would have to drop off pretty significantly to not make it They'd have to Montreal drop off They'd have to, from here on out, be an under 500 team. That is such an interesting thing about this early part of the NHL season. It's very important. Montreal is what, 10-1-1? Yep.

If they finish 500 the rest of the way, they're one of the top teams in the East. Wow. Carey Price, man. Yeah. It's a hell of a drug. That's right. All they have to do is finish 10 wins over 500, and you're in. Which they are

Yeah And they will Again Barring Carey Price Going down for some sort of Catastrophic injury Like last year You need roughly

Like what 42 wins To make the playoffs With some Shootout and OT losses Mixed in there Alright they got 32 left Wow

That's a good way to look at it Jeez that's scary Yeah I do Okay we want to talk about The Leafs and Canucks And I know that To bury it

To bury it Before you roll your eyes Before we bury it Let's make people wait a little bit longer Since we're on the subject of Montreal Can we talk about the one Regular Time loss they've experienced this year

Which is a very perplexing 10-0 loss to Columbus Which had more than one Canuck Blue Jacket fan reach out to me and go See? We're damn good You don't know what you're talking about I remember

Kyle Wellwood and Alex Steen having a big night for the Leafs a few years ago in the middle of, I want to say, a 10-2 win over the Bruins. I want to say it was against the Bruins. Which meant that

year the Leafs were way better than the Bruins and everyone else. Never mind the fact that they missed the playoffs and continued to be bad forever. Yeah, but they had 1-10-2 win in the regular season. So there you go. Patrick Waugh was lit up for what?

11 goals in an 11-1 defeat, I believe, against the Detroit Red Wings in his final game with the Montreal Canadiens. Therefore, Patrick Waugh, bum. Right. Therefore, Patrick Waugh, bum. Who cares that he won the consmith in the playoffs? I want to talk about a regular season game from earlier that year. Well, and not to take anything away from Columbus,

They are 5-3-2 They're 6th in the Metro division Great Are they 6th with that record? Yeah You're joking Well that's what That's what Google says

I can look up the actual NHL.com But Google says 5-3-2 With 6th in the Metro That might be a mistake They've also only played 9 games though Yeah If that's okay

Okay So they probably It's about to say It's a good record But a damn good division 5-3-2 is 10 Oh my god my math I didn't even bother to check it

I don't care But still, I mean... I can't get anything. I'm batting zero. So, yeah, I mean, they look like a better team, right? Sure. Wierenski. But do they not live and die by one factor?

And one factor alone? Sergei Bobrovsky. But the thing to me is their cap situation. And the interesting thing is going to be, hopefully you start to cultivate these young draft picks. And up-and-comers The challenge for the Blue Jackets Is going to be

A couple years from now When they gotta resign these guys And they have no bloody money left That's gonna be the challenge Or maybe you can't afford them But you can't add Or justifying not Not

Drafting Jesse Pugliarvi Oh my god What is the goal? What do you play the games for? Don't say to win the game You play to win the game You play to win the cup play to win the bloody

Stanley Cup. Is that what it is? A little bit. I've never experienced one of those in my lifetime. I didn't realize that was the reason. If the Blue Jackets, put it this way, the Blue Jackets still got some work to do despite some

positive trends. They got some work to do if they want to ever be in that conversation. If they make the playoffs, I won't be like, that's preposterous. There's no way they can make the playoffs. No, no, no. I can see it. I can see they'll leave making the playoffs. The East is wide open.

I don't think they're going to win the thing. And that's the point. You want to be a contender. That's all. Okay. That's all I'm saying. Look, great start. Congrats.

Speaking of contenders for last place, let's talk about Vancouver. So we need to discuss the game. Let's get to it right now. No, I want to discuss me getting yelled at. How many years does Nazem Khadri need to be suspended for? Go. 7

7 years 7 years suspension because the hit happened in the 6th and he'd be suspended for 7 years therefore 67 just like the last

I agree so I have had just an awful 42 hours maybe plus 52 that's very specific

did I say 42 yeah did you mean 48 got him dumb regroup regroup very bad Jesse have your last The 62 hours or so.

The 67 hours. Jesse, how have your last 42 hours been, man? Better than Steve's, I assume. Better than Steve's? Okay, all right. Probably. What's going on, Steve? What's eating at you?

So I tweeted during the game, imagine being Alex Burrows. Friggin' gross. I don't know how anyone could disagree with that. You could have tweeted that before the game. What do you mean you don't understand how anyone could disagree with that, Adam? Well...

Disagree with what? The tweet? Disagree with the sentiment behind the tweet? What did I say in the tweet? What's the subject? Alex Burrows. And what else? His lack of character.

Oh, is there anyone else involved in that tweet? I don't think so. No! That's right, Adam! I only mentioned one person in the stupid tweet! Alex Burrows! And all I got was, What about Nassim Khadri?

I'm not talking about Nassim Khadri! I'm talking about that rat on your team! That rat piece of garbage! That always stick working, always biting. People are telling me, oh, well, you know, Burroughs, you know, he's been suspended, but not very often. Or I think someone said he has one less suspension than Kadri. So you're just blind. You're just completely telling me Burroughs never does dirty things ever.

Never does dirty things. But what about Kadri? I'm not talking about Kadri. Everything that went wrong for me was because of this tweet. And Dan Murphy from Out West on Sportsnet retweeted it. And we DM'd and talked it out But I'm still a little pissed at him Because he retweeted it

To all his totally reasonable Canucks fans That follow him With the context that I was saying Burrows is dirty and Kadri is not In the video I said Kadri didn't need to lay the hit Didn't need to lay the hit Now let me apologize

Because I got heated And I said well it was a legal hit Oh Will Steve Just so passive aggressive I said, well, Steve, I didn't know the hits that got five-minute majors were legal. Okay, okay, you win. It wasn't a legal check, but he didn't get suspended for it. It wasn't suspendable.

If, and this was the other one, and I can just imagine the voice I was getting. If one of the Canucks did that to Austin Matthews, you'd be losing your mind. First of all, stop breathing so heavy when you say that. Stop breathing so heavy. because you're so excited for one of your plugs. Give your cat blocks a break. Oh, no, but Adam, they're excited. They're a little excited, if you know what I mean.

I saw the first motion you made. A little bit of the blue pill excited that one of their plugs is going to take a run at Marner or Matthews or Nylander. That wasn't what I was saying. What I was saying is Burroughs is a hunk of garbage. I'm so sick of the dishonesty that's coming out of this. someone was talking about

Kadri's clear headshot on Sadeen and Riley's clear headshot on Jansen. Well, then they weren't watching the replays because Riley's was clean. And by the way,

let me just say, I know that Kadri got a charging, it was a five minute major for charging. But if you watch the replay, you have to have three strides for it

to be a charge. I didn't see one. Did he glide towards him? And also, we've all seen the frontal view now of, was it Daniel? No, Adam,

we need one angle that doesn't show the front at all. Because that shows it. We see the frontal view point of contact. It's his shoulder. It's not his head. And by the way, he had his head down. Oh, another favorite.

Another favorite. Another favorite. If you need to review it with this many angles, then it's a dirty hit. What are you, thick? Why do they review them then? Why is there a committee? Why is there a department of player safety?

Why do we have cameras? What's the point? What's the point? You know what should happen? And every time a hit gets laid like that, they just black out. Just black out the television and all we hear are the voices.

And oh, a very secret committee of people in hoods, in Stonehenge are going, and they're channeling the Department of Player Safety gods. And that's how we review these things now. Why do we review them? If you need to review it, maybe it's dirty. What are you, an idiot?

What's wrong with, what's the matter with you? That's the most idiotic thing I think I've ever heard. Stupid And these are smart people Tweeting these things I'm like You're just not thinking

With your head So Canucks fans I do need to apologize To some okay Because this podcast Has got to be so hard To listen to

For some of you I had a nice little moment Yesterday Where I was tweeting With a Canucks fan About just other random things And I was like Oh see

Life continues Life continues And it was so nice And I said I said With Canucks fans It's exhausting because it doesn't freaking end.

It doesn't end. Drake gets over things faster than Canucks fans. And a lot of people, one person in particular said, you know what? Labeling a whole fan base is immature and childish. And to that I say,

you're absolutely right. And I apologize. I'm apologizing to you right now. However, this is my piece now. I've been doing this. This is my 10th season doing this. So, over those nine and a half seasons, we'll call it,

I've had run-ins with every fan base over certain things, okay? Run-ins with every fan base over whatever. In my experience, ordeals with the Vancouver Canucks are by far the most unpleasant to deal with. Exhausting, and they take forever. and then more dishonesty when I responded to something that I saw in my timeline yesterday

oh my god Steve you're still talking about this lololol no I'm talking about it because it's still in my mentions because you won't let it just die because your team's lost 9 straight and you're miserable I get it I'm a Leafs fan I've seen it before

all I'm saying is leave me alone December 3rd can't come fast enough holy smokes you know my favorite part of that game was was the quote that came out. When the Leafs won! Well, other than that. My favorite part was the supposed Eric Gabranson quote

about Matt Martin is dead. Oh, nuts. Nothing, nothing makes me more reassured than that. Nothing makes me feel like we're going to win on December 3rd more than that. And I'll tell you why. Because if the defenseman, the big get that you had this year, the big leader, the former captain of the Florida Panthers,

the guy you brought in to bring you back to the playoffs. Well, he's not the captain. No, no. He was former captain of Florida, though. No. Was he not? That was Willie Mitchell. Okay, my bad.

The other defenseman. Are you sure he wasn't? Positive. Okay, then he was at least a leader. I think maybe the front next. That was like a leader. Former captain of the Kingston front next. Dougie Gilmore's team.

There was a big controversy. I think he was the assistant captain and Gilmore stripped him oh okay so here's my the fact of the matter is your big get was

Gabranson or Gustafson if you ask Don Cherry Good Budskin Good Budskin Good Budskin Good Budskin says

Matt Martin is effing dead now that's fine what is Matt Martin's role on this team to get people to feel that way bingo

and and also to attack Troy Stetcher let it go on a list of consequential forwards for the Leafs. Forwards that matter in terms of plays in the game. Matt Martin

is where? The answer is the bottom. The answer is the very bottom. I want them to be focused on Matt Martin. Exactly. And they are. Great. And back to the Burroughs thing for just a second.

Back to the trash can thing? If you're a Vancouver Canucks fan and you're sticking up for Alex Burrows at this point. Remember that Alex Burrows went after Patrick O'Sullivan after Patrick O'Sullivan he went after... What, are we going to go down the resume Adam? He was the, this is the

same guy that called out Patrick O'Sullivan on the ice and said something along the lines of I'm going to do the same thing that your dad did to you. Yeah, and Shane O'Brien with the drinking out of a glove and Mike Richards picking up ice on his stick and pretending to snort it and biting Patrice Bergeron

and all the stick work. Fight like a man you rat! And the reason Sorry, that's why I hate him. By the way, the reason that Matt Martin went after anybody on the Canucks is because Burrows wouldn't do it. Burrows wouldn't go with Matt. See, yeah, I don't There's so much that got lost in there. Everyone's

telling me that Dorsett wouldn't go with Martin And that's why Martin just grabbed the first person he saw. I don't know if that's true. Because there was too much going on. It's just hilarious It's just hilarious. The fact of the matter is Did both teams get a little dirty? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely Is that why we watch hockey?

Kadri 2 Yeah I'm not saying that hit wasn't predatory I'm just saying it's clean It's a clean predatory hit At one point I did the non-Twitter thing And took a step back

And I went Wait Why is everyone mad at me? How did this start? Okay I'm clearly egging them on Why am I egging them on? Because

We're having two different arguments That's what it was My argument was simply Burrows is a piece of crap And they're like Well what about Kadri? No no no That's not who I'm talking about

And anyone who watched my video My video's comment section are perfectly nice Because I said Kadri shouldn't have laid the hit You know what would have prevented the goal? If he poke checked it I think he was close enough I might be wrong on that

So December 3rd is going to be a lot of fun I'm excited And Canucks fans should be excited too Because at that point, what will it be? 20 straight losses at that point? They're going to go on a hot streak Just because of that Of course.

They're going to sign Andre Pavlik. I'm just going to say. And they're going to explode. Pavlik's going to play forward for them. Jesse's giving me these eyebrows like, I just don't have this much energy early this morning. I've been reading some of your mentions to the Burroughs tweet. Oh.

And it's disgusting. So, that was my reaction. Like, disgusting in what way? Disgusting in people are really mean on Twitter. And I'll say it again In my experience This isn't all Canucks fans But whenever this

Type of garbage Breaks out Canucks fans are the ones I have the hardest Time with Ask anybody from the Nations Network Oh my god Canucks Army And look I love you if you read

Let it die Or don't take it so personally You live in Vancouver dude You live in BC. You got it made. You won the lottery. You live in a temperate climate in a country with wonderful healthcare, and you can go to the rocks and look at a whale.

You can go see a whale. You can go feed a seal. You can go feed a seal right now. Go feed a seal. It deserves it. It's just, look, a lot of people who cover hockey for a living will tell you the same thing, and they don't generalize all the fans. I'm just saying, whenever something breaks out,

and it's the Bruins for example oh I know I'm going to get heat and I know that heat's going to die down. We joke about what part of Alberta are they from Flames and Oilers fans kind of get in their jabs and then they let it go

Except for when it comes to Vancouver fans who by the way they universally hate I don't think the Flames and Oilers hate each other as much as they hate Vancouver fans. I don't know why it's just from living out there, just an observation don't anybody get mad at me Sorry, sorry I had to get that out of the way

It's not all of them I just can't help but make the observation That it is always unpleasant The other thing this distracts from The other thing this distracts from, guys Is that, guys Yeah, sorry Jesse's reading through the hundreds

It's the fact that the Canucks have lost Nine straight And management will have No recourse They're right up against the cap They need Louis Erickson to score. He's not. They'll come out of this.

They'll break this streak. But remember how we said Canucks may be last place in the next five years? Might have got it. Well, Arizona's a tough competition, though. That's true. So let's wrap it up here. We've got to go to break. When we come back, we're going to talk about the Leafs.

Hey, of course, because typical Eastern bias laughs. By the way, for everybody that listens to this show and goes, why do you guys talk about the Leafs so much? Well, it's a Leafs-centric podcast. so that's what we do. But we do want to talk about everybody else, so we will talk about the Kings, Trouba, Tortorella.

We got stuff to do. We got stuff to do when we come back on the Steve Dangle Podcast. Toronto Maple Leafs, LA Kings tonight in a matchup of the 1993 Western Conference Finals that we still can't... You know, you want to talk about Canucks fans, let it go. The Leafs fans have finally, finally just let that go.

We got beat, and by the way, the way that Montreal was playing in that playoff, There's no way Toronto would have had a chance. I mean, like, LA comes in and gets spanked by Montreal. I don't know that Toronto would have been much better. George Trombolopoulos is actually the guy who made me feel better about that because one time he was on TV talking about it, and he goes, the Leafs were going to beat the Canadians that year,

and he just kind of made this face. And I was just like, that face is right. No, there's no way. No one was stopping Patrick Watt. The John LeClaire Montreal Canadiens. Canadiens. The Chris Chelios Montreal Canadiens. I think Eric Desjardins. Yeah, absolutely. There were some

great players on that team. Now, what I love about tonight's game is the Leafs technically come in with the better winning percentage. The Leafs are 5-4-3. The Kings are 6-6. Oh, wow.

I just find that funny because the Leafs have lost more games. This is why looking at the standings any time that isn't the very end of the season. It's ridiculous. It's so frustrating. Ridiculous. Yeah.

Keep going. Now, we were talking, we talked last week. Okay, so we talked about the Sabres and the Leafs, and you said it's a game the Leafs should win. We talked about the Canucks and Leafs. It's a game the Leafs should win. Three straight. Because, I mean, because Buffalo had no Eichel, no Kane.

I believe no Eller, no, was it Edler? And Buffalo lost Bogosian, I think, during that game. And the Canucks, without an NHL team, basically. Yeah, no top-pairing defense. Yeah, they don't have very many good players, and the ones that they have, they're missing like half of them. Yeah. So, these are good.

This doesn't seem like that, except for the goaltending issue, right? Yes. Do you know who their starter is supposed to be for this one? I have not seen anything on that specifically. It's 11 a.m. We're in a weird spot, because we always record this show... Early. Yeah, like eight hours before you hear it, at least.

This is... Oh, yeah, go ahead. You got the starters, Jess? Peter Buda. Peter Buda is not a bad goalie, man. He's not a bad goalie. Versus Anderson. Versus Anderson.

I mean, you should win that one. Should you, though? Because LA is pretty deep. They are. Well, I mean, given the circumstances, right? Okay. um so we are always talking knowing that the world will be different when we release the podcast but that usually means the leafs will have a one or lost or something like that the world is going

to be completely different by the time you hear this one completely different we'll have a new president for obvious reasons we will have a new president not we the world the world will have A new leader of America When the states get a new president The world gets one Yeah You know It's a big deal

It's a high profile job It's a bloody big deal That's right The germane default of politics Will be decided tonight Only Toronto fans TFC fans are going to get them By the way

TFC Eastern Conference Final Against Montreal Toronto sports Amazing Who are those people? Hey They were great

They were great What sport do they play? Canada invaded New York Montreal took out The New York Red Bulls and Toronto took out New York FC which

see Canada invaded and beat New York wow it took all of Canada to beat New York there are two MLS teams in New York

yeah the Red Bull and NFC okay because it's New York man it's New York they've got they've got two teams in all four major sports

plus MLS I just learned yeah because they can because they're New York because it's the size of Canada yeah basically yeah true

we were saying though Los Angeles what have you seen from them this year I mean, obviously, we haven't seen full L.A. hockey games. There's only so many games that one can watch in a season. But what have you heard? What have you seen?

What do you think? Well, they seem to me to be the typical playoff-performing team that doesn't turn it on until they have to. And, I mean, you want to talk about a time where you don't have to have it on at all. It's the beginning of the season, you know? And you could also fall back on the excuse that, We're missing Jonathan Quick

And I don't even know Who their backup Was supposed to be Behind Jonathan Quick Zatkov? Was it Zatkov? I don't know I think you might be right

Because then it was like Budai And they were calling up Like people And their dads Were having to back them up In the AHL It was ridiculous

Drew Doughty's been Getting into it You can tell that there's been Some frustration And when you're a team That probably should be Doing better than you are and you're coming into Toronto,

they're going to want to bring their A game. I was surprised the Leafs didn't get eaten alive by McDavid. I think Drew Doughty and company are going to bring it. Whatever it is. Do you think that they'll have, will the blade end of Alex Burrow's stick be out of Morgan Riley's ribs by game time, do you think? Probably.

Are they going to have that surgically removed? Well, yeah, because they luckily didn't have to surgically remove the other stick that he swung at him from the bench. Right. Little rat. I don't have to have respect for this person. Oh, yeah, 100%. So he did swing at him from the bench?

Absolutely. Because I looked at it and I was like, I don't know. No, no. Okay, we're not digging that. Not digging that hole. The Canucks just stuck their purple glove up through the dirt. Okay. Like The Undertaker.

Bury the bag. Bury the bag. Okay. All right. Get Yokozuna to sit on that. L.A.'s had a frustrating start, and last year really was okay. They made the playoffs. You know what?

They got beat by the Sharks, and they made it to the Stanley Cup final, right? Right. So is Los Angeles, they seem to me, and I might be completely wrong in this, and I might come to regret this come April, May. Oh, boy. But they seem like a team that is still great, but it's almost like the Canucks team after the loss to the Bruins. they're just a step

too far does that make sense or are they there yet it's funny people forget that a couple years ago they missed the playoffs exactly

they did they should have the way it was spun was beautiful it was like oh that's a good thing they're gonna relax and rest

and you know they've played a lot of hockey come on I think I think they're a little bit past it I think they're a little bit past it they could contend again this year

but they're on the like if if Stanley Cup contention was like a Venn diagram. You know what I mean? They're getting closer and closer to the outside

of the middle. They're not, like, when we talk about the powerhouses of this league anymore, I don't really talk about the Kings. You might live to regret that quote, by the way. Oh, absolutely. People are going to cold take that to death at you. They might win the Cup.

They might win the Cup. I would not be stunned. But, if you asked me to name the top five teams in the league, I probably wouldn't name them. Wow. Probably talk about the Caps, Blackhawks still Penguins are the reigning

Stanley Cup champions So you gotta give it to them San Jose? Maybe Martin Jones gets hot At what point Does not including Montreal Just get disrespectful?

Oh it is It's disrespectful Any team with Carey Price man Any team with Carey Price And by the way They might win the F-ing Stanley Cup this year How do you think

Your PK Superman rant And if Montreal wins, and Jesse, I want you to answer this too. In the context of Montreal winning the Cup, what's that rant going to feel like? Steve? Yes. What is the rant going to feel like? How's that going to look? How can I feel bad for saying the same thing that everyone else said?

Almost everyone else. And does it make you wrong just because they won? Because this isn't a trade they needed to make, right? Says who? Says who? Look, Marc Bergevin did some things. Radulov. Great.

Andrew Shaw has been a good fit. Lekanen has been a good addition. I think he just got injured. Weber is off to the best offensive start of his career. You can't deny that. But I am arguing that the Canadians would be within one or two points of where they currently are if they had Subban in the lineup. which is where they were last year at the exact same time with Subban in the lineup.

They would have never done this with Subban except for less than a year ago when they did it with Subban. Didn't they start with the exact same record last year? Was it a 10 win? They had like nine wins instead of 10. But that's improvement, isn't it? Improvement. They have the best player in the world who plays a position

where they can single-handedly win games, and he might just win them the whole season. Like, they always talk about hockey being, like, basketball is a superstar-dominated sport, right? If there's anybody that can be LeBron, if there's any position where LeBron could exist in the NHL, it's goaltending. It's the only position. You know what? We've been talking about Sidney Crosby or Conor McDavid being the best player in the world. No.

Best skater. Yeah. Best forward, certainly. It's Carey Price. Carey Price is the best hockey player on planet Earth. Wow, I don't disagree with that at all. Goal tending is a position in hockey And he plays it

He's the best hockey player on earth But Steve he can't be captain I know I know Just so you know He cannot be captain It's crazy He's the best hockey player on earth

In the Canadian title Two different teams coming in Who do you think comes out As you know Who do you think shows up Do you think it'll be a good thing I'm gonna go with Leafs

Shootout loss Okay Because they're due and also I think they've had a three game win streak, right? The first of Austin Matthews' career! Did Sidney Crosby have one at this point?

Did Connor McDavid have one at this point? Crosby probably did not. Not on those penguins. I don't know that McDavid would have either. At the beginning of the season. Maybe. Anyway. They had Sunday off.

They had Monday off. They had a lot of distractions in between player hearings and all that. It was the weekend. Who knows? Maybe they went out and, hey, we won three straight. I think the Kings might come in and show those Eastern biasers what's up. Lastly, before we go to the download portion, we only got about three minutes here. Jacob Truba resigning in Winnipeg.

What? So basically the breakdown went, hey, Winnipeg offers Jacob Truba like 5.5 million bucks a year. He goes, no, trade me. And then they go, okay, we'll give you $3 million a year. And he goes, okay, sign me. Now, that to me screams Kyle Turris. And that was not lost on everybody. I mean, I think there was a lot of people.

But does this mean he gets traded right away? Or does this mean he goes, plays the year, and then maybe gets traded in the summer? Well, supposedly, I hadn't read these quotes, but supposedly his teammates were like calling him out as selfish in the media before. Yeah, Dustin Bufflin, actually. I remember watching a clip of him going, well, if he doesn't want to be here and play left side, then we don't want him here.

Okay. Sounds great, Dustin. I mean, at least he's being honest. Yeah. I don't blame Dustin Bufflin for saying that. No. Let me throw this out there, just to be devil's advocate. So let's say the Jets trade Truba.

At what point do we go, Dustin Bufflin kind of got Evander Kane and Jacob Truba traded yeah both of them

both of them now do you want someone who was doing what Evander Kane was doing no on your team

no do you want someone who was doing what Jacob Truba was doing on your team yeah I really I'd have to understand

more about that situation is it that he doesn't like Winnipeg or is it he doesn't like the left side I can't imagine someone not liking the left side

of the hockey ring that much. That just does not fly to me. You play hockey your whole life. Are you kidding me? That can't be it. It's funny that you said Kyle Turris, and everyone's bringing up Kyle Turris because he requested the trade. This reminds me of P.K. Subban. Because Subban, I think it's almost

identical to the bridge contract he signed with Montreal. I think it was two-year, $2.9 million, and Trouba is, what? Three? Three and a half? 2.5 pro-rated this year and 3.5 next year. Oh, okay. I understand. So it's an average of three.

I got you. I got you. If he performs, and if the Jets want to win, they need to give him the opportunity to perform, it's going to be represented in his next contract. It's going to be represented. Because what Subban did was, all right, I give you this break now. When my next contract comes, you're paying for it.

And then you go, what do you want? And he goes, $9 million. And they said, nope. And they go, we can't. And he goes, I told you. You had two years to prepare for this. I told you the price was going to be $9 million. I went out and I won a Norris for you.

What else do you want? And now we got another young right-handed defenseman on a Canadian team. I'm just seeing parallels. That's all. I know it's a different situation. I'm shoehorning. I'm shoehorning. If I'm Kevin Sheveldayoff, the person I'm trading is Tyler Myers.

but see and this is that's not easy I know that's not easy not everyone is super stoked to add that kind of cap it for that kind of player and I get that

you're going to have to retain three million dollars for man I can retain salary on Tyler Myers for however long he's got that deal left or I could trade

Jacob Truba for a king's ransom or I could just keep them all also Tyler Myers is injured oh is he? yeah so Truba's actually a perfect fit right now

So you can't trade him. See, that's going to be interesting because if he's injured, do you play Trouba on the left side just out of spite? Because that's where he's going to be? Probably. Or do you put him in Meyer's spot? If I'm Trouba, I'm keeping my suit under lock and key lest it end up in the shower.

Yes. Okay, so I just think it's a very interesting situation that is significantly lower than what he's worth now comparatively to in the future. That next deal is going to be huge. It will be very interesting to see how Winnipeg plays this Chances are, I'm going to go 90% on this They don't make a move at all

And he becomes a free agent again With Winnipeg in a couple years And we revisit this Because Kevin Sheveldayoff When it comes to trades There is no man who will be moved Less than Kevin Sheveldayoff I think he's going

Okay, I think he's going So in the offline portion of this We've got to talk about a hockey fan Who's named all his kids after the Toronto Maple Leafs God bless them all. Oh, yes. Steve wants to talk about something to do with poppies that we mentioned in the last episode.

Oh, yeah. And a nightclub in Regina honoring Remembrance Day. Oh, dear. Yeah. So that is on the online portion. It's sportsnet.ca. Oh, and towards slamming advance numbers again because this wasn't so three years ago.

And his run-in with friend of the show, Christina Rutherford. It's brought to you by this podcast, by the way. Brought to you by Panago Pizza. It's what's on the inside that counts. Steve asked me to remind him at the beginning of this show Like before we started To bring up something to start the online portion of this show Yes

And sorry I was too busy laughing at that picture of Donald Trump Looking at someone else's ballot His wife's ballot? I think it was his wife's It's Melania, yeah Is that Melania? Yeah, you gotta see

I'm sure everybody's seen it by this point It's eight hours before you're actually listening to it So So The NHL Twitter account tweets On this election day There was only one clear choice Hashtag I'm with Phil

Hashtag make America skate again And it's just a picture of like Phil Kessel With eagles and it's all Cute and trying to break the tension that the world Might end today And my favorite response to this tweet From Pete Blackburn and this is why we had to wait For the online portion

Good stuff, now fix your fucking website What was the website? NHL.com I love Pete Top 5 worst websites on the internet Top 5 worst Who else would you say is bad? Mike.com for their content

Now this is What makes a site bad? Content or usability? Facebook is probably up there On terms of their lag And their users Yeah Facebook's terrible And the way they've changed the algorithms in Facebook

It's like wow I'm going to call out WorldStarHipHop Yeah their website needs an update Because I can't watch their videos without it sticking And I figured out why by the way If you're all trying to watch videos They have two autoplay video ads If you pause them

Your video will play better That's what fucks it up Wait a second For anyone trying to watch awesome fight videos Right now Or Vine comps Which are now Insta comps Okay hold on

Explain that to me one more time So you're watching a video on WorldStarHipHop Watching my Vine comp Yes you're watching a bus driver punch someone I don't know so there's your video you got an autoplay

ad next to it and your video is sticking as a result because your computer is trying to do too much shit so you gotta pause that one and you go it's still sticking well that's because you gotta scroll down and pause the other one as well

and then you get the random one with a fake Melissa McCarthy quote at the bottom But luckily that one's not autoplay You know what I can't stand And it's actually a site that Pete Blackburn Used to work for before it was Fox Sports Is Uproxx It's a great website for content

If you want like what's going on right now But what I cannot stand is when you Scroll down the video follows you It goes to the side screen They're autoplay videos because every site now To generate fake hits Has autoplay at the top of their site So the Uproxx

one will literally follow you like the annoying paperclip from Microsoft Word back in 2000. You know what I'm talking about? Jesse, are you showing them right now? Yeah. Sorry, Jesse. What are you trying to show me here? Oh, is this Uproxx?

It has nothing to do with the article I want to see. Yeah, it's just an Uproxx video that they want to shove down your throat. That goes at the top, but you keep scrolling the autoplay follows you. What a hunk of shit! And the volume comes up on both of them. Yeah, it autoplays the volume. And then this is the actual article I want to read

This will usually have nothing to do with this Does Pete Blackburn still work for these guys? No, he works for Fox Okay, well fuck Uproxx forever then Never go to that website Can you believe that shit? It's a good website though It is a good website

Fuck them, fuck them though What, they have something that the rest of the internet doesn't? Fuck you How arrogant Never go to that stupid website Don't ever pull that goofy shit on me There you go Sorry, I hate when people do that

I get heated about the internet Have you met me? I think it's just somebody in sales who's like, listen, guys, we need to generate some more clicks. And here's a way we do it. Here's a way to fudge art. Basically, it's cooking your books. It's cooking your clicks.

It's making your clicks seem higher. Nobody wants to watch your autoplay video. They want to look at the article. So just make great articles and make some money and start charging more for your ads. Steve, you're a dick because some of your stuff on sportsnet.ca has autoplay videos. Not all of them.

And the ones that do, I didn't put them there. also you have no decision over that yeah I literally have no control over that yeah that's not you so something we brought up last episode when we got into it was the dawn of what's the matter with you

what's the matter with you was Sepp Blatter who sounds like a disease and acted like one as head of FIFA allegedly he we were talking about and I'm going at this in the Tarantino way reversing it we were talking about the Poppy debate

and how England and Scotland are not allowed to wear poppies because it's a political thing. Yes. And Steve said, what's the matter with you? What's the matter with you? Now, we had some Irish fans reach out. And this is sometimes where we forget that this show is kind of global. And it truly is.

We do have an international following. And unfortunately, no matter what we say or do, every episode, somebody's offended. Every episode. Honestly, without fail. We were just being sarcastic. we know Curt Schilling taught me

that's how you use it and so we cannot please everybody but Steve you had a point on this yeah so okay and what I tweeted

at these people and they were very kind very kind kind and understanding they understood where I was coming from I love

conversations where they understand not just what you mean but how you feel you know you know what I mean

where it's coming it's called empathy the word is empathy stepping outside of yourself and understanding someone else's point of view even if you disagree with it so our perspective is Canada

and in Canada unless there's a reason that I'm not aware of there's no fucking reason to ever say no to a poppy and I'm not wearing one because it's on my jacket I should buy one on the way out

there's no reason to ever say no So I didn't think about that Where you are I don't know where in the world We got some comments With people with funky accents And their names, apologies I didn't see the country

There were some people from the UK Various parts of the UK It means something different over there To some of you And that's fine Sometimes we forget that so I'm not gonna ah nevermind

you gotta wear it no matter what you piece of shit no cause that's it is different here than it is over there than it is there

and I forgot that so did I I forgot that but you know what sometimes sometimes you can't take all perspectives into something

no no in that perspective you have to understand that it is literally impossible to please everyone yeah so and the thing is the same goes for

when we when we go after a team for making a stupid move please do not take it as a personal attack on you. We're not attacking you listening to us on SoundCloud while you're walking to work. We're not attacking

your choice in teams. We're attacking the moves the team made or the players on the ice for what they did. We're not even attacking. Most of the time it's just like, hey, we disagree and here's why we think this is stupid and these are our rules. This is just the litany of reasons. And while we're at it, if we say

players can sue the NHL because they get hurt on the Barclays Center ice. Don't take our word for it. Of course we don't know what we're talking about. Well, they can't. Can they? Yeah. Put it this way.

If we do say it, then look the shit up. Are you kidding me? Because I don't know if that's true. Of course they can't. I assume they can. Because guess what? I don't know that they can't. Guess what happened this morning?

Jesse, you want to drop that one on us? Now, supposedly that was bullshit. Are you going to point out the Brock Nelson thing? Brock Nelson? Yeah, the thing you sent us on Twitter? Yeah. Is it real? I don't know. Well, say it. It's his alleged.

Well, yeah, Brock Nelson allegedly got hurt on the ice at Barclays Center last night, and people were saying that he got hurt because of the ice. And then a bunch of people started tweeting, no, that's untrue. He got cross-checked in the side of the leg or something like that. So, I don't know. Jesse, do you think this is a good time to bring up the thing that we wanted to bring up? Sure. All right, you know what?

Let's jump into it. We're going to go back to our segment number two of Who's Mad at Steve? Oh, great. Right, right, right, right. So Jesse sent this to me, but I figured since it was sent to him directly, better that he read it. And Steve, bring up the rest of the people that are mad at you because we need to discuss this. But this one I think is very, very interesting because it comes from an Islanders fan. Oh.

Who's very upset. Yes. So at Daisy on the Ice, we'll call her Daisy. Hi, Daisy. What up? She has a little message for you, Steve, and I'll read it out to you. Is it just for me? Just for you.

Just for you. Okay, I'm the only person who talks on this podcast. Yep, it is. Remember that. Please do one of the many things you do best in this world and tell Steve that he's wrong. Brooklyn is technically on Long Island, so you got that wrong. I know that. Lots of people correcting me there.

Brooklyn can be found on the Islanders logo. Yep, I know that. Thank you. Thank you. It was a late addition, yes. While Brooklyn and Queens are also considered separate geographical regions for political and economic reasons, they are still located on Long Island.

You're in school. Okay. Or they're from New York. Or they're from New York. Also, I was at the Leafs game last week, and that was probably the worst ice I've ever seen. This is probably because we had a freak warm snap of 75 degrees, 24 Celsius, and the

building didn't really cool down fully until the second period. This isn't why the Leafs lost, though. They were terrible, and the Islanders dominated them by being just decent. This is besides the point. The point is, please stop scaring away

potential hockey fans from this community. Here, here, here. Hold on. Go back and start that section again so I can say, if something's besides the point, leave it out.

It detracts from your point. And can we ask you, just a quick question from the peanut gallery here. All you wanted to do was go, the Leafs sucked. Meh.

Anyway, continue. How do you know the ice was bad? How do you know the ice was bad? She said some of the worst she's ever seen. What, the Leafs ice? No, the ice at the Barclays. Right. So here's the thing.

Just because you had a freak warm snap doesn't mean that that's acceptable that the ice is bad in Barclays. Adam's the only one here wearing a sweater. It's like mid-November. New York isn't the only place Where it's oddly warm Right now

Hey Is there a hockey team in Tampa? Yeah Is there a hockey team in Los Angeles? Yeah Arizona? Hey guys Are they putting one in Vegas?

You know what I hate Oh they're fucked How are they gonna do it? It's hot How are they gonna do it? They don't even have water in Vegas man That's like a desert How are they gonna flood it?

Every team just has to convert To rollerblades For games in Vegas Do you think There's no excuse The ice sucks The ice sucks The ice sucks

It's not good enough The ice sucks Do you think their piping system is up to standard. I think the piping system might have to do with the ice sucking. The ice sucks.

The ice sucks. Shall I continue? That was the argument. The ice sucks. Shall I continue? It stinks. It stinks. But let us not forget

the Leafs were terrible. So that wasn't why we were mad about the ice by the way. This is besides the point. The point is please stop scaring away potential hockey fans

from this community. Although I know it's not your intent every bash against our borough our arena and our ice devalues the product and the experience for others. Barclays Center

provides an affordable chance for people to experience NHL hockey. Calling for a franchise to move because you feel inconvenienced by the result of one game per year and taking those experiences away from this community is single-minded

at best. Think of all the new fans you've created and inspired for the Leafs, Marlies, and Furies. That passion can work the other way too if not checked brook brooklyn has already lost one hockey team this year please be careful when calling for the removal of this one thanks daisy daisy deep breath yes daisy i'm finding it very difficult to take your argument seriously the reason is because you're not being fair you're you think do you honestly think daisy that i'm being this big

meanie for no good reason no the reason other than the leafs lost i don't think we even mentioned that did we mention that the leafs the leafs were terrible yeah they were bad in that game i know but did we did we cite that as a reason why we're mad about the ice no i don't remember that that i honestly don't know the Leafs played many games the Islanders played many games before the Leafs arrived and the ice sucked in those games and then the Leafs arrived and the ice sucked in that game and then the Leafs left and guess what the ice continued to suck the ice sucks it's cheap I can think of a couple reasons why it's cheap one they're relatively new in the community and they're trying to get people to come to their bloody games which is obviously

not working so the tickets should be cheap no one's going number two you can't see the playing service from a lot of those seats the islanders are in trouble daisy i'm not trying to uh scare fans away daisy i i feel bad that your team is mistreating fans like you so badly the fans they already have daisy forget bringing in new ones they'll be lucky to retain fans like you they'll be lucky to retain the fans they have they play in a garbage facility that's not even built for them on a garbage surface how are you defending this what should i what would you rather me say that it's great that everyone should go you know how often people tweet me from those shit seats where you can't see everything hey shut up here's the scarf go nuts our listeners are

regularly pumping money into that team it's not us the islanders fail it won't be us it won't have anything to do with us not even one little fraction of a percent god i want a road trip down They're so badly right now. Yeah, Daisy, look. You are yelling at me for the same reason I yell about the Leafs and Vancouver Canucks fans yell at me. We're all passionate. We're all passionate about our team.

I just think that was misguided energy. Yes. Let me add to that if you'll let me. Sure. Daisy, I think you're given, and Steve, this is not a swipe at you. Go ahead. I think you're giving Steve way too much credit. and I think you're giving this podcast

way too much credit to suggest that we could influence the location of an NHL franchise by a couple episodes is giving us too much credit and if we call for the sale or if we call for the removal

of the Islanders, we're not calling for the removal of Islanders from Long Island we're asking their management team which, and I think Daisy you can admit this, they've made great personnel changes recently. I mean, it's a great, the team is,

the team isn't better than last year, but the team is better than they were five, six years ago, right? They drafted well. I mean, they don't deserve a medal for that.

But they, but let me give them something. Yeah, okay, fine, fine, fine, fine. They've made great hockey personnel decisions. Have they made great business choices? No.

No. And they are notorious for making poor choices in both arenas. So, hey, at least finally they're making good hockey choices. But again, again,

Again, they did not look out long-term for what would be best for the growth of the franchise. You cannot look at the Barclays Stadium deal and tell anybody that it's the right move. You can't argue that. It has been the wrong move from the beginning. Change the piping, retrofit the stadium, fix it up again, then maybe we can have a conversation. Don't use the wrong piping in the first place. Well, exactly. but the point is

the islanders are the ones the upper management the people making these business decisions are the ones that you need to be upset with

if I'm not mistaken they've been up for sale for two years are they not? I don't know and I believe I don't think they switched ownership

that I'm not sure of and if I'm right in that it seems to me which by the way they had a stadium deal I believe in the works

but then all of a sudden the owner wanted to sell So why do you think the Barclays deal was signed? Because it's an attractive thing to pass on to the next owner. You have a guaranteed $50 million. You're basically going to cover your whole team. $50 million from Barclays coming in every single year because they'll pay you that.

They will pay you that. Then you don't have to worry about ticket sales. Not your problem. Tell me that that's not, that is not made in the best interest of the fan or the long-term nature and the ability to support a franchise long-term. It's just not.

Now I'm going to go back and defend Daisy a little bit. And I'm not attacking Daisy. No, I know that. I know that. But defending her point, whether or not we actually have an impact on the Islanders and their fan base is besides the point. It's that we could. It's not that we do. It's that we could.

And I think that's what she's saying, which is fair. Did we really have, was it really because of us that John Scott got into the All-Star game? No. But We had an impact Could've Could've For sure

For sure could've I just don't think We're influencing A bunch of NHL businessmen I'm not saying Don't go to the games Hey If you live in the area

Go I assume you do Hockey fans Listen to the show If you live in that area And you're an Islanders fan Or if you're not I assume you go to games

If you're a Bruins fan You probably go When the Bruins are in town Or when the Rangers Are in town Or whatever so Daisy if it sucks there

the way it has been reported by many that it sucks fans will go to those games with the cheap ticket prices and they will

see it for themselves how bad it is which I haven't I'll throw that out there I haven't I know it sounds like shit I want to go on TV

I want to go and I want to experience it I want to go too you think I'm not going if I'm there I'm going why don't we just go Because I can't just up and leave to Brooklyn?

You can't? It's not a so expensive flight. We could go. We can afford to go. You can afford to go. It's not that expensive of a flight. And because I respect Daisy's passion, I want to sit with Daisy at the game.

I do too. If she's open to it, I would love to do that. Let's figure it out. Let's fly down there. It's like a $200 flight. I think both of us, we could save $200. Oh, with Porter? With Porter, you can fly.

and see the Islanders shitty ice in person. You can go and have your view obstructed. What I love about Daisy, what I love about the Canucks fans

I heard from this weekend. Jesus will score in game seven. What I love about the Canucks fans I heard from this weekend, from the Columbus Blue Jackets fans that I heard from

this weekend. Passion. Desire. Love. I respect that. I love that. I appreciate that. I don't always agree

with your point of view as you don't always agree with mine same with steve same with jesse although most people always agree with jesse and call me a dick and use racial and homophobic slurs in the middle yeah that too sorry i'm just talking about this past weekend i respect the passion yes and i love the passion and appreciate it and get it and by the way been there as a frustrated fan been there totally been there totally sending our love now steve who else is mad at you oh are we still reading oh yes uh should i read the names no right First name.

Joe says, this guy sucks. Now, is there any way to Steve-ativity that? Jesse, how do we turn that one around? What was his comment? This guy sucks. Who is he referring to? I assume me.

What was the video on? Oh, so, like, if I'm talking about, like... The Canucks. And Alex Burrows is in the video. He must be referring to Alex Burrows. See, this is from October 9th, though. Do you know what video it is? Well, can you pull some more recent ones?

Yeah. You must have some more recent hate. Okay, fine. I'll go to the... I had a bunch of good ones. Yeah, get the new ones. Let's not go to October 9th. That's in the past.

We have no idea who this guy is in context. I asked you guys to be positive, and you just started yelling at me. Have we thought about maybe that Joe could be going like, you know how people are like, this guy hasn't referred to himself. Maybe he was referring to himself. That he sucks himself? that he sucks

maybe Joe was just putting it out there like he woke up he woke up and was like I suck and then he was like on Facebook

this guy sucks you're saying that he sees the excellent job I do at my videos and he's just pointing at himself going this guy

this guy sucks I can't do what Steve does talking about himself in the third person oh my goodness Joe have some confidence

yeah Joe you can do it it took me a number of years to get any of it who's that person who started their own LFR channel it was like Habs reaction videos that was so cool

there's a bunch now yeah it's awesome keep it up stick to it I see so many people start and then stop you know what the problem is is that you didn't copyright it like the Fine Brothers reaction videos yeah if you want to talk about if you want to react to hockey sports

they would have come after you eh with that anybody that wants to know what I'm talking about the Fine Brothers do quote unquote reaction videos which by the way people have been doing since the dawn of time and they didn't create this But they tried to copyright them And they lost like a million followers Because people were like, no, F you

And they're like, you can pay us and we'll consult you On how to make a creative and smart YouTube channel Uh, no I got an idea, so here's my channel I get out there and I tell the fine bros to go fuck themselves That's a really cool idea for a YouTube channel I mean, the arrogance of that And by the way, you heard all my rage towards Uproxx

The fine bros were a great example of the internet uniting and saying go fuck yourselves. Yep. They lost a ton of subscribers. Good. They should've. Assholes. I got another one. Is this recent? I don't know. There's no date on it. Okay.

It's from Sean. Hey Steve. If you've had it already good. Then shut the fuck up and stop showing up on my Facebook feed. You piss me off. If you've had it already? I think this was a video

from when the Leafs were losing consecutive games and I was like, I've had it. I've had it. So I said, I've had it and he said, alright, good, then shut the fuck up. So Steve, hang on to that for just a second. Well, actually, no, you don't hang on to that. Go to the Sportsnet page

and go to your most recent Canucks-Leafs video. The Canuckles one. Oh, boy. Just do that. Oh, boy. And we'll pick some winners out. Jesse, in the meantime, while Steve's doing that,

while Steve's doing that, let's discuss Sean. Okay. If Steve's had it, then he should probably stop, right? Yeah. He should take a break, come back tomorrow. I think Sean is looking out for Steve. Sean is saying, the Leafs are losing, but if you take a break now,

if you shut the hell up right now, breathe deeply, come back tomorrow. Things will be better. And they might go on a three game winning streak Which happened Because of Sean Sean is basically Sean was teaching you mindfulness man He wants you to meditate

He wants you to sit in a room Focus on your breathing And get a little bit more A sense of self Steve Wow a sense of self Yeah I think it worked I think it did I mean the Leafs did win three games in a row

Geez I haven't heard language like that since my drama teacher made us uncomfortably meditate together in grade 11. I always just fell asleep. So I went to the LFR for my game, for the Leafs-Canucks game, and the thumbnail is me holding up a trash can representing Alex Burrows. Oh, so this is good because it's representing Alex Burrows. Ooh, I think I'm the only person that doesn't hate Dangle. Well, okay, we can't read that one.

That one's no good. um i mean gosh oh here we go from jerry hey sunshine your mommy and her 10 cats want the basement back so please move out maybe into the garage and get a real job yours truly canada employment center and this is from jerry where's jerry work uh case manager at division of developmental disabilities studied at NYU lives in Burnaby British Columbia

Jerry I can see everything about you you should probably stop talking shit I'm just going to go ahead does that mean he's a lawyer case

no no case I don't know it sounds like he works in insurance case manager division of developmental

disability I have no idea well Jerry Jerry was trying to motivate you because you know

and you can understand Jerry was applying a typical blogger stereotype to you do you see what I'm saying because he thinks that you live at home in your mom's basement

he was trying to motivate you to leave because you've been so successful right right are either of you listening to me right now

no hello is there anybody in the room that is listening to this show Jerry thinks he's like wow you are so successful you're so successful

that you can leave your mom's basement now. You can get out. And I can have my own garage? You can have your own garage. You can get it yourself. Jerry believes in you. And what was the last part

of his comment? It was, oh, get a real job. Yeah, get a real job. My parents say that to me all the time because this doesn't feel like, you know,

we're not digging ditches, right? We're doing a great thing for a living. It's a fun job. So it was like, ah, get a real job. And while Adam was saying that, I figured out that

a case manager does indeed, in fact, work in insurance. Boom! They can work for many fine insurance places like Sun Life. Well, now you know where to go to get your garage insurance. I've always been a bigger fan of Sonnet!

Now, someone came to my defense, actually, in the comments against Jerry. And I'm going to go ahead and tell this person thank you, but pump the brakes. Because they said he has his own house, which I do, Darian. Yeah

Darien Lake His name is Darien He has his own house I do have my own house He's married I am married Has a kid on the way Yeah

What the fuck? When did you have a kid on the way? Darien I don't have a kid on the way I just thought I would throw that out there Works for the biggest broadcasting company in Canada Makes a lot of money for doing videos I mean I don't know But a lot of money

Writing articles You were mostly right there Darien But There's no baby dangle Chill Oh Darian's so nice Unless Oh

Darian's referring to Iggy Iggy's alive Darian He's already here Iggy's here He's not on the way Have you guys heard about The The nightclub in Regina

What Adam Fuck man There's kids listening to the show Oh I just said fuck The nightclub in Regina And nightclubs They like to theme their nights

Right They like to theme their nights They like to have something That that will bring people in the door. Ladies' night. Yeah. The foam party.

Toga party. Yeah. Whatever it is. Summer fling. Dollar nickel shot night. Sorry, that's one of my favorite John Mulaney bits. So, Gabbo's in Regina is hosting a big party on Thursday night. It's Thursday, November the 10th.

Gabbo's? Gabbo's. Gabbo's nightclub. Come on. Because nothing screams nightclub like the name Gabbo's. Gabbo, Gabbo, Gabbo! So all the kids in Regina are a little less obese. Gabbo seems like the kind of club you go to when you're 47 and newly divorced.

No, there's nothing wrong with that. I'm from a family of many divorces. But it doesn't seem like the young hip club. I could be wrong. Went to Halifax for my bachelor party. And part of what I liked about that Is I didn't want to go to a strip club Which is handy

Because Halifax only has one strip club And it's called Ralph's I don't want to go to Gabbo's And I don't want to go to Ralph's Ralph's is in Dartmouth Oh is it? But it's still technically Halifax Dartmouth is just a different neighborhood

But Dartmouth You're going to get so well actually Or butt actually No no it's in Dartmouth Oh boy I lived there I could at least attest to that I was there for three days

So I know as much That's how it works And Dartmouth is Coming along But was economically disadvantaged For a long time And is only now Seeing the benefits of the

Growth of the city I know their national bird is the dreadhawk Now, Gabbo's nightclub On November the 10th Is having an evening where you get Two for one tequila Hey, okay That's alright

All right. So if it's a nickel shot, it's really two and a half cents a shot. Is that a bird that wears dreadlocks? A dreadhawk? Jesse. Oh, Jesus. It's from a picnic face sketch,

first of all. Second of all, how dare you? Gabbo's Nightclub is calling it Lest We Forget Night. No! Because November 11th is the next day. They're offering two-for-one tequila shots, and in the poster for it,

They actually have poppies in the background. What's the matter with you? So this is a real thing. That's not so bad. That's pretty bad, dude. What's that called? Lest we forget night. Two for one tequila.

But what if it's like free beer for veterans? As in lest we forget we're going to get so drunk. That's not what it is. No, it's lest we forget we got so hammered last night we forgot what happened. That's pretty creative. No, Jesse. Oh, is that what they're going for? The day before

Oh, I know that's what they're going for And they have poppies in the picture It's not so bad Oh my god, dude There's so much wrong with that Hey everybody, let's honor our thousands Let's honor our thousands Of fallen dead, that's right

The thousands of people who fell long before their time Making sacrifices For us Here and overseas Let's make sure we honor them with two for one tequila night lest we forget down at Gabbo's

Gabbo's Gabbo's see it sounds pretty good in context I'm that was like half like cheesy like Cornwall radio guy

half monster truck yeah it was pretty good half strip club DJ yeah half yeah anyway

there's so I wanted you to know that there's a great episode of Louie where they they go to a strip club and they tell the strippers that someone died

and who went there all the time but they didn't know what that guy meant to them. So the DJ stops the music and has a moment of silence for the guy and all the strippers are crying. That reminds me of that. Oh my god.

Yep. I also want to tell you about the Leafs fans and this was tweeted at me a million times. Leafs fans who are actually from Kingston who have five kids. Good Canadian kids. the husband in this relationship is a huge Leafs fan

cool the wife is not oh dear but they've named every single child after a Toronto Maple Leaf and here's the worst part recent ones

there's only like one or two here you can get behind so the first one oh no the first one here is oh no Justice Tucker

11 years old as in that Tucker's the middle name Justice Tucker second one is 10 years old Angel McCabe Oh no

Their third child Domi Nine years old His name is Domi? Yeah His first name Domi I'm not giving you the The last name

The last name Domi McGillicuddy And Five years old Oh no Colt Knorr She's not even Not even a Leaf fan

This woman is a saint She's a saint They're pregnant with another daughter Alex Sugilboff They just gave birth To Kadri The name of the child is Kadri Oh see I saw Kadri tweet them

Yeah So that was them I didn't know that was the same person Why? There's something about Now look if you're a fan and you want to do that Okay, okay, whatever. There's something about naming your kids after another person

who's not a family member. That's just weird to me. Spoken like a true Italian with your 45 middle names. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Maria. Alessandra. Alessandro. We've got to name it after everybody in the family, every child.

No, but here's the thing. You don't name them after your nono. They said Steve Bobbity Boopity Dangle, right? Am I right? They said, I don't want to knock the superstars like the Kessels or the Crosbys, but it's not about the name on the back. You play for the logo on the front, and that's what I felt those players did best. Breaking news.

What's breaking news? Jakob Truba has rescinded his trade request. Whoa. Oh, okay. That's interesting. That is interesting. That doesn't mean anything. That means nothing.

That's just a PR move, really. Yeah, it means absolutely nothing. Ken Wiebe, does Jakob Trubos still want to be traded? Jakob Trubos, I'm calling him. No, I've committed to sign here. When I signed that piece of paper, everything changed in my mind. Jacob. Does that mean anything?

No, it means absolutely nothing. Don't wear tracksuits to the rink, I'm just saying. So I wanted you to know that that happened. That there's five players, or five kids in Kingston, Ontario, with names after recent Toronto Maple Leafs. if Kadri gets suspended for a hit does their kid Kadri

have to sit out of school while he's suspended that is a stretch my friend I want to quickly say is it any more of a stretch than their names I am excited

for these Ontario born kids to one day be drafted into the WHL we have some stuff to get to first off Tortorella best quote ever

this week I'd rather spend time doing doing that than listening to this crap about Corsi and Fenwick and by doing that I believe he means, I forget what he's saying.

I don't know what the heck he means. But anyway, I'd rather spend time doing that than listen to this crap about Corsi and Fenwick because those stats do not apply. I don't care what anybody says in this league. They don't apply to the game of hockey. The scoring chances for and against is what tells us the story of the individual player and your team concept as far as what's going on.

How do you get a scoring chance, John? Wait, wait, he's going to figure it out. He's going to get it. He's going to get it. Oh, it usually comes from a shot. Look, what do we think John Tortorella thought about all that? Like, are we really going to get upset at him? No, I don't think we can.

I'm over it. I spent all my Corsi rage like two years ago. I spent it all. And now you're... I think a valuable lesson in life is learning when to let people be wrong. Mm-hmm. John Tortorella Is welcome to be

John Tortorella And learn Nothing Nothing When I stay on the cup In 2004 I don't think he's learned Shit since

Christina Rutherford Put together a Q&A With him She had a big long Q&A Which you can see At sportsnet.ca And I think it's worth reading

This also came out Because this is all from From Sportsnet And Russian Machine Never Breaks Christina Rutherford And this is to him Towards the end

KR Is the public perception of you Different than how you actually are And JT John Tortorella says Oh sure Christina says I was a little scared to talk to you

To be honest And JT says Oh no But I can't do anything about that And I don't want to chase perception It's too hard These top 10 lists Sports networks sometimes have

If that's what you people think of me I can't change that Because that is me In those situations If you want people To roll me up in a ball And say that's who he is I can't change that

But for the people Who really know me they know me. This is a hard interview for me and you're going to end this pretty quickly because you're talking too much about me. Let me repeat that sentence. This is a hard interview for me. By the way, this

interview is about John Tortorella. This is a hard interview for me and you're going to end this pretty quickly because you're talking too much about me. Christina Rutherford, who by the way we've had on this show. Oh yeah. If you need reference for her listen to the episode. I mean most intimidating person we've

had on. And she says I thought she was going to punch me in the throat Christina Rutherford says really this is the end and he says this is the last question for you Christina out of the game I'm private so we're done Christina Rutherford's like we're done and he's like we're done alright she says well

alright well I've really enjoyed talking to you and John Tortorella responds with I'm not trying to be rude but I have a plane to catch which may be fair enough yeah it's all good he had a plane to catch then why did he say that he was ending the interview because they were talking too much About him

He just forgot to mention That he had a plane catch It could be That he's lying About having to Catch a plane It could also be That he just sucks

Balls with words John Tortorella Like He says a lot of Saying a lot of words Doesn't mean you're good With them And he's good

With none words None of the words And all that That mishmash Jumble that you just Alfagetti soup At us all That

John Tortorella Doesn't know how to Fucking talk He might have been being perfectly polite But the reason he gets himself into so much trouble The reason he gets on all these top 10 lists Is the guy doesn't know how to talk It's Phil Kessel Syndrome almost

In Toronto The opposite though Complete opposite ends And yet the same I also wanted to let you know that Jesus walked on water And Tim Tebow walked off Against the Mesa Solar Sox

Hey He won the game He won the game. Walk-off single. I believe you play to win the game. He was late on a fastball and he got lucky. And lastly, before we go to the actual press conference, there's something we didn't get to last week

and I wanted to get to this. Jesse, can you bring up our Reddit page? Yes. Remember the clock with no watch? Sure. Can we go through some of the responses? Reddit. For the next five minutes, from our Reddit page, because these are brilliant.

Brilliant. We have an idea for a new Reddit. It's the same website, but with no content. You're not allowed to submit anything. These are just so amazing. So these are the Kickstarter ideas. Remember there was the watch with no clock because it was an art piece and you infinity... I've got it here.

It's a piece of art. It talks about who you are. It's a piece of art, but with heart. can wear who you are on your sleeve levi maestro rather than just acting like a person like everybody else this one's from tyler a bag of uncracked pistachios the perfect desktop desktop piece to show you to show you eat healthy and yet have food available pistachios i like that what's his name tyler tyler you just looked at the first thing you saw on your desk we are i don't know who this one's from it's not in the crop we are looking for backers for a

new kickstarter for an ice rink with no ice we call it the barclays center that wasn't nice to our friend oh that's from eric that's from daisy can you imagine i was just fucking with you guys uh this one's from herb have you ever been running and feel like something was missing how about walking or even just standing have you felt as if you wanted to be one with the earth with the grass between your toes or the hot asphalt underfoot this is the soulless shoe the shoe for runners walkers and people who want to feel connected to the earth it's like a visor but footwear wow it's like i love it jeremy's got a great one too yeah that was from Herb

Jeremy says we created an escalator that doesn't move we coined this creation stairs that's a bit of a Mitch Hedberg bit but I'll give it to you

I'll give it to you give it to you how about this is from Jackie I Chell as fro on Twitter the no phone

which is a brick of rubber that gives you a piece of plastic to clutch you can use it to avoid people who are trying to sell you things on the sidewalk. It gives you something to hold while you're taking a dump. I got one.

I got one. Okay. All right. Ready? This comes from Adam. Adam Zepp, 91. Oh, okay. A pizza with zero topics.

Why must people fill their lives with as much as they can? We need to slow down and truly experience minimalism. We'd like to take a closer look at what we eat and appreciate each ingredient the way they were meant to be appreciated. No cheese, no pepperoni, no sauce. We call it bread. But the way he spells it is B-R-E-D. No!

That's exactly how Levi Maestro would spell it. This one's from Connor. He calls them ear styles. Beautiful, simplistic, revolution. Revolutionary it should be, but still. Do you love the way a nice pair of headphones look around your neck or on your ears? The problem with conventional headphones is they don't let you talk to people and is ruining our culture. Be the first to grab the hottest fashion piece of the decade with beautiful silence.

Become part of the revolution and help fund ear styles, where our motto is, style without losing touch. Now, don't people actually do that? Like, just wear their headphones? I think, yeah. As like a scarf? For like a summer, Beats by Dre were like just a fashion item. Oh, my God. Which is so lame.

Oh, my God. That's going to be the mullet. One of our mullet things of our generation. In grade seven, I'm pretty sure I did that. But it wasn't even with big headphones with cans. How old were you? 13. Oh.

Continue. You're allowed to be a dick when you're 13? Yeah. You're allowed to be a dick when you're 13, because you're 13. Okay. Aurelius. Edge. A razor with no blades.

You use it because you're a man of growth and unlimited potential. And you show it proudly on your face. You show it proudly on your face. Eventually, you'll be more beard than man. But who among us was ever really a man? You own up to it, and so does your new edge. Selling proudly in ethically sourced sterling silver for $139.99. Who wrote that?

That's great. Aurelius, great one, great one. Wow. Ethically sourced sterling silver. You know what? There's so many of them. Go to the Reddit page. Let's do the press conference while we still have time.

The Presser SDP. The Steve Dangle Press Conference The first question comes from Jesse Blake Hi Jesse He writes on his phone Steve, as a member of the zoo A former member of the zoo What did you think of that video

Of the cucked penguin losing his wife? I think that might be the first time We've ever heard the word cucked On this podcast Are you a Trump supporter? I am not Cucked is a Trump thing It's blown up over the last year or so

And they like using it But they're not the only ones What was the question? I totally missed it Have you seen the video of So there's this penguin He's got a penguin girlfriend Comes home from the penguin office No he went to go make money for his penguin wife

Exactly And while he was out working hard with his wings She was back at home in her hole Fucking some other dude Another penguin So they They scrap. And it's a great video.

Wait, is this an actual video? Yeah, it's great. It's from National Geographic. Is it the new Planet Earth? No, it's not from Planet Earth. It's just from Nat Geo. Because this is a great video. Oh, okay.

Now, who scraps? Is it the husband and wife? Or is it the husband and the cheater? No, the husband and the homewrecker, yeah. And the husband loses. The husband loses. Well, he loses. At first, they're fighting.

And then they both stop. They stop battling. And then they call out to the wife. oh and they say and then she has to choose one of them and then she goes with the home and so then they crawl back they crawl back into the hole and then he's like okay i'm gonna do one last ditch effort i'm trying to get i'm gonna try and win her back so then he goes back into the hole and he starts pecking at the the the cheater the homewrecker and they go for guys so he can come back out and they can fight again there's blood everywhere he starts pecking at his face

and then the homewrecker comes back out and they start going at it again the husband homewrecker and then the husband starts losing because this cheater you know he's got some skills there's a reason she lusted for

his penguin so then item so then he's he's losing the war and then finally he tries one last time

to do the call out thing to the wife and be like come get me and then she still stays with the whole this is a real thing yeah

oh that's savage yeah so then she sticks with the dude man nature freaking nature man there's another video and this one's from

the new planet earth yes of the salamander running from all the snakes yes holy shit it's an iguana iguana

iguana whatever it's better than any action movie I've seen over the last five years the penguin one's better two minutes and twenty seconds that one's real life

penguin one I learned things so penguins the iguana thing was real life did you see no but the penguin one is like that's a relationship drama yeah

the other one's just you're running from a terrible person yeah like there's characters right yeah there's not just ah

ah and then all the responses of like pictures of nice penguins this is side of media people don't want you to see like those are incredible you versus the penguin she told you when i saw that video the the the one with the snakes and the iguana i thought the whole time how did they get that shot how the hell is the cameraman not going jesus christ there's 40

fucking snakes coming at me holy fucking shit fuck this iguana he's gonna eat the iguana they'll eat me that's fucking scary oh my god and snakes are so i don't care what anyone says they are the creepiest animals on earth because of the way they move they're meant to send shivers up your spine you're supposed to be intimidated by them it's like crocodiles, don't tell me a crocodile is adorable, they're fucking scary I think there's something weird about having a pet that doesn't

love you yes, that is actively trying to eat you a snake does not love you now you're gonna go ahead and tell me no, my snake, that snake doesn't love you crazy person to be fair, your birds don't love you that snake will eat you if you sleep too long

what? To be fair. Oh, my birds hate me. Yeah. So, yeah. No, it's definitely weird that we have them, for sure. At least I admit it. Well, the question was, as a former member of the zoo, what did I think of it?

What did you think? Did you have penguins at the zoo? Yep. Yep. They were a relatively new addition. I think they were only there maybe for one summer before I left. Man, I learned something from that video, though, is that penguins, unlike most birds, don't have hollow wings.

They have solid bone So when they Flap at you And beat you over the head With their wings They're punching you It's like It's like getting a forearm

Shiver Friggin Every time they throw a punch It reminds me that A lot of parts of the zoo Or a lot of Exhibits You can't have more than

One male in there Or You know Obviously You can birth through a child A baby gorilla Or whatever When that gorilla

hits a certain age when it gets to oh certainly harambe's age harambe's like silverback though like grown up when you get to you know when when that gorilla baby whatever a gorilla cub whatever you call that whenever they get to a certain age he's gotta go he's gotta go i'm trying to remember the kind of we had him some kind of primate ah wasn't the macaque which had the most entertaining name might have been a baboon because those guys are vicious yeah you don't want to get next and there was a part of the zoo where we had to keep like the this other male baboon and every time you drove by it'd just be like the fuck like because it was just so on edge but you couldn't keep him in with the other baboon because he was just as crazy we went to a

uh primate sanctuary jesse and i way way back and um there's one in where was it remember we went with Blake I forget where it's here yeah it's where the Ikea monkey is yeah

so we went to check on him on Darwin someone I went to school with by the way was the person who took the Ikea monkey picture

oh really yeah Storybook Farms in Sunderland Ontario that's right so we went out there and it's the middle

of winter we go into this thing this barn and you know these people are doing this out of the kindness of their hearts and they got

a whole bunch of animals in there primates that were test animals or they were pets people actually bring these things in as pets and there were certain ones that you if you walked in and you looked at them in the eyes

which I made the mistake of doing because you just look at them yeah they will come at you oh yeah like you've never they would tear you apart limb from limb and they're not they're half the size but they're 10 times the strength and way stronger yeah it's like people always talk about like oh what would be the worst animal to get killed by monkey yeah just a really really strong human with zero remorse and sharper teeth yep and a stronger jaw like that horrible horrifying yeah absolutely now i'm not saying they're all evil i'm just saying that's nature keep one as a pet they um like they're one of the only species that actively murders members of their own family they remember they they they go after an actively murderer that we know of yeah that we know we know

of so this stuff about monkeys and like eating meat and like cannibalism it's relatively recent knowledge because it's only been observed recently like i'm there's got to be other crazy stuff going on in the animal world man working at the zoo was fun i miss talking about animals i miss learning about animals they're amazing yeah amazing one thing that you really need to challenge yourself to do once you graduate you know high school or post-secondary or whatever is to continue learning it's actually kind of hard like you need to like seek it out yeah you know it's like endless knowledge because we're still learning things that become really hard at least that I found out at school

making new friends learning new stuff making new friends is hard very hard isn't it how do people Jesse how do people find like if you were to go look for a girlfriend

how would you do it if it wasn't for Tinder go to the bar I'm not the best person to ask fair enough dude I found I knew you were just gonna tell me to talk to the hand

stonewall me dude I did it how'd you do it you talk to people you're weird you're a freak well no you just

you talk to strangers it's like my aunt and uncle you talk to good looking strangers I don't know my aunt and uncle supposedly met at a pet store and I'm like what he just walked up to her

and started talking that's madness he doesn't even own a pet that sly bastard well yeah he was in there looking for a different guy there are people

that just meet at coffee shops oh man that's my aunt they just meet they start talking they exchange numbers it's not that hard that's messed up man it's not it's not jesse next question uh this one's from our reddit page which comment

section is worse youtube or facebook oh my god facebook facebook easily facebook facebook here's why here's why people on youtube may say worse things but i know for a fact at least half of them are trolling and they're also hiding behind anonymity when people say stuff on facebook with their face and here's my kid they mean it yeah they mean it they believe that in their heart of hearts did i just spit on you i'm sorry no i just saw you wipe your face no no i just was wiping i spit on them because they mean that shit so even though they've toned it down they don't sound quite as much

like Hitler at least the YouTube person as vile as they are are just doing it in the way of Skank Hunt 42 from South Park

for the lulz the lulz the people on Facebook no they mean it people on Facebook mean that can I be honest going on Facebook

gives me anxiety and I don't I try not to like if I'm if I'm posting a status it's because I've copied it from Twitter

where I've already posted it, and I can't stand looking at the Kiss92.5 Facebook page other than the content. I'll look at the content, I refuse to look at the comments. It used to drive Blake nuts. She'd be like, what am I going to do about this commenter? And like, it would ruin Blake's afternoon. And I'd be like, you can't

look at the comments. Well, this is our page, we have to police that. No, no, sorry, we can't police people's responses to things. I tested it out once. I tested it out. When I was running the Facebook page of Kiss92.5, Miley Cyrus was enormous. So I said to my co-host at the time,

I'm like, dude, I'm going to put up a picture of Miley Cyrus and just see what happens. Do you know what the first comment was? That's all you did was you just posted a picture of Miley Cyrus? Just posted it without comment. What do you think the first comment was? Hit me. What a dirty whore.

And it was from a woman with two children in Bowmanville. Wow, you remember that shit. Yeah. That's burned. That was just a social experiment. Facebook is the worst. and I would suggest to anybody that has children because I'm sure as hell keeping my kids off Facebook

if I can. If it even exists at that point. I don't think your kids will use Facebook. I don't think so either. I don't think kids use it. It's the worst. The worst. Damn. Can you design the Steve Dangle Burger? It's Facebook without comments.

The Steve Dangle Burger. Ooh. It would be lamb probably because I find lamb burgers to be delicious. Okay. Which means you got to have some kind of goat cheese on there. There's got to be an element of mint.

Well, see, everyone's like, you're supposed to have mint with lamb. And I'm like, I don't know. Mint? Yeah, like some kind of like mint sauce. And I've never, I don't know. I never really liked it that much. I've never had mint on like meat. You know what?

This is the Steve burger, so I'm taking it off. Okay. There's none of that. Little chunks of jalapeno. Little chunks of jalapeno You know what a jalapeno is? It's a pepper I like jalapenos

I can do jalapenos, I can do chilies I can tolerate hot peppers like banana peppers Because I get the spice But they also taste a little bit like a pepper I don't like it Maybe some mozzarella What's your special sauce? Adam, you also have to come up with a burger.

Oh, God. Do I have a sauce? I don't know if I have a sauce. Thousand Islands dressing. I need to, yeah. Guacamole salad dressing. All right, here's mine. Yeah, I don't know.

I need to come up with a Steve burger. Yeah, a Stevie Nicks burger. A Stevie Nicks burger. Stevie Nicks. That name might already be taken. Just throwing that out there. That might already be a Stevie Nicks. No.

Before we go, because I quickly have to do this. bison burger patty yeah bison burger patty I was trying to think of less terrible for the earth like buffalo

sorry I just watched that like buffalo bisons like the baseball players you're gonna have a meat patty made from buffalo made from bisons made from bisons

yeah so that piece of they call it Canadian bacon but it's female bacon is what it's actually

thick cut but good cook with like a it's gotta be crispy on the outside better bacon yeah better bacon bacon that is actually meat

Yeah, bacon that actually is satiating Look, bacon tastes great It's not meat It's made from an animal, it's not meat Mayo and real hot sauce mixed together So you get a real hot sauce But a vinegar hot sauce But still a real hot sauce, mix it with mayo

Can it be Frank's? Sure it can That's not real hot sauce You can, but hot sauce Hold up, we have like a minute here Lettuce, tomato And mustard.

There you go. Sorry, what? I'm just going to really quickly, to Jesse's point, if the meat is cooked properly and if it's a good enough cut of meat, you don't need that much sauce. No, you don't.

You're ruining your food. Because I was trying to think of a special sauce for my lamb and all I was thinking of was delicious, delicious lamb. You can't put hot sauce on a rack of ribs. Eat the damn ribs.

Well, no, but if you cook the ribs in a really good sauce. Yeah, put it in it. But don't be throwing... It's one o'clock. Yeah, you're late. Sorry, I just wanted to wait until you were late. Don't be throwing sauce all over your meat after it's done.

If it was cooked right, it should be good. Jesse Blake, everybody. Steve Dangle Podcast out for today. We'll be back Thursday. Go Leafs go. Hey, Canucks, how's that losing streak feel? Ribs are overrated at the Barclays Center. Follow the guys on Twitter,

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