The Steve Dangle Podcast - The Steve Dangle Podcast - Sep 8, 2016 - Tim Tebow's Space Jam

Episode Date: September 8, 2016

On this episode, the guys talk about John Tortorella's anthem comments, the World Cup of Hockey, Tim Tebow, and playing NHL 17. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hi, Adam. My stomach is noisy. Panago Pizza presents S.C.P. The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm happy to report as this show begins that we are officially watching hockey! Man, it's some sort of record. September the 8th. Now, if we watched KHL hockey, we could be watching this earlier. However, we don't.

So we're watching World Cup Czech Republic and Russia In St. Petersburg Czech Republic up 1-0 Milan Mihalic Did not score the goal But he was on the ice He did not, yeah

Toronto Maple Leaf Milan Mihalic, by the way So we have a couple things To cover today The show's gonna be A little bit short Because quite honestly We just came from a demo

Of NHL 17 And Jesse and I It took a solid hour To get back Yeah, because Toronto traffic Is horrendous And also Jesse and I Have a meeting

After our show? Yeah Would that have been a better idea? Probably would have been a better idea But then Steve would have Had to stay downtown The whole day Well, you would have been down here at four anyways.

No, well, no, that's a phone call, Jesse. Jesse, yes, he's got a phone call. Sorry, I'm trying to work it out in my mind. I would have figured it out. I figured, I thought, okay, well. Anyway. Apparently I was wrong. Anyway, I just want to say, it's nice to be back.

It is nice to be back. I think all is right with the world. Just the three of us, too. Well, yeah, it is. And, you know, I'm excited because today on the show, Skip Bayless is back. As a guest. I wish Can you imagine

I wish Tim Tebow signed today How perfect would that be Well I mean like I said Like I said we got We got Stephen A. Smith Talked about hockey

Skip Bayless is back on television There's hockey back on television What's his name I can't think of it Don't help Give us a hint Barney the Dinosaur Quarterback now baseball player

Tim Tebow Tim Tebow signed Two seconds ago Did you say Tim Tebow I wasn't listening You weren't And listen, I'm just saying all is right with the world. Things are good.

Things are happy again. And I want to start with that. Okay. I want to start with Tim Tebow. Not hockey. By the way, we do have the national anthem for Team Europe, Should They Win, coming up. But I want to know what your actual thoughts are, both of you,

on the whole Tebow phenomena. Because has there been an athlete who's been a less good athlete, higher touted out of college, and more beloved? is he beloved because everyone seems to be pretty stoked for his inevitable failure and that's what i was tweeting today like all right the mets signed him so what good if he's what do you think if he's bad they're gonna promote him gonna put him on their starting rotation that seems to happen i mean it happened in the nfl it's not gonna happen do you want to know how this is a serious job for Tim Tebow? He'll be

missing some of the instructional practice so he can fulfill his job at ESPN. So you know this is serious. You know? This is a serious endeavor. He's gonna miss some practices for ESPN. I was tweeting today and I got lit up for it. I don't have

a problem with him trying. And if a team wants to offer him a contract, so be it. Oh, well, you're depriving some other player who's worked words out of a contract. Take that up with the Mets. Take it up with the Jays who apparently wanted him. Take it up with the

20 teams that showed up to his open workout. And by the way, if you're at that level, then be better than Tim Tebow. Yeah, yeah. And why not try? If you're him, why not try? I don't understand that. Because here's the thing. Tim Tebow has been on television

shows like home reno shows because he's got the family friendly element, right? He's the guy, I'm never having sex before marriage i want to find the right person i live right i do right and that's cool you know you need you need a taylor swift of sports you need that but so wait he's a snake behind the scenes that's not no no i'm not saying snake emoji but he's you know like he plays the good guy he plays the good guy and that's cool and he probably is a good guy we probably have him on the show and really like him but i what i wonder about this all is why if you're tim tebow

are you going back to play baseball when you've got your nice, cushy Tim Tebow job at ESPN? He needs more money. Is that what it is? He's not generating enough publicity to sustain his living. So he needs more publicity, so he needs to join baseball. To make $20,000 in the minors? He needs to up his brand.

Him being out there in the world is upping his stock right now. We're talking about Tim Tebow. We wouldn't be otherwise. so we have to do something to generate the tim tebow brand so this is interesting you think it's a long play then because like adam just said he's about to take a pay cut probably i can't imagine like i don't know what minor league baseball players make nothing yeah nothing yeah it's got to be less than what someone at espn makes i would assume or uh yeah at very least the same amount but when when it comes time to renegotiate with tsn you're now saying because of this whole saga

He can make more Tim Tebow Is gonna start selling Tim Tebow hats And apparel And sweatpants With his own Custom logo on it

From Nike Or from Adidas This is for sure This is the rumor That he's coming out With his own line He needs to generate His brand

You know He needs to up his game And he's doing that We're talking about Tim Tebow in September For no reason Tim Tebow and Colin Kaepernick Have the highest selling

Jerseys in sports again It's like What year is this? Wow that's true What year? Good point Good point Wow

You know I Chris Pronger makes a comeback Why not Why not He's a 29 year old guy Who hasn't played baseball Since he was 17 He's just a guy

He's just an athlete Yeah at this point He's just a guy You're not You're not an athlete At this point At this point You're a guy

Cause everybody played baseball When they were 17 Cause baseball You don't just pick up And play baseball At least not up here You don't I'm sure the states they do

We don't know what it's like To be Tim Tebow And I'm not saying that For me It's a story What I'm saying is it's not it would be unreasonable for me to be like i'm gonna hold open workouts for a baseball team to snatch me up you you can be a part of this if you want for him it's not unreasonable

then like you said he's 29 he's in the prime of his career he's in great jacked up yeah and i mean you need more than that to be a baseball player or any kind of athlete like Hand-eye coordination? Yeah, exactly. But it's not totally, totally ridiculous. It's a little bit ridiculous. Did you read the scouting report? I heard it's pretty bad.

Okay, so Jesse, I know read it most thoroughly of us all. A fringe outfield consensus? Jesse, I'm going to let you take this one. What was the consensus? He looks like a guy trying to play baseball. He looks like a model who's acting as a baseball player. Like, he knows how to throw, but it looks like he's trying to fake his throw as a baseball player. And everybody was saying that, oh, he hit a bomb.

Like, he hit a home run at 430-something yards, which, I mean, is impressive. But you're pitching against the machine. You know, what about when it's double-A, then triple-A, then MLB? Like, I don't know. He throws you a curveball. Yeah. How is he with change-ups? Exactly.

And the other thing was, he couldn't take ground balls. Yeah, which is a little important in baseball. It's a little bit important. Probably, I would say, the single most important thing in baseball is being able to take a ground ball, as far as defense goes. So I was defending him, I guess, in a sense, on Twitter. And some people were like, yeah, when Michael Jordan switched to baseball, did people give him this kind of grief?

And I was like, yes. Yes, they did. There's a whole conspiracy theory behind that, by the way. Do you know that? Oh, there's tons. The ESPN 30 for 30 on it is fantastic. Oh, I haven't. Is there a 30 for 30 on that?

On the conspiracy theories? Yeah. On the whole saga of him playing baseball. Yeah. Do you believe any of them? It's funny. You go, you're probably talking about the conspiracy theory that he was asked to step away from basketball for a year, right?

Because of his gambling debts. Yeah. Alleged. And it's funny. They do talk about that and they do entertain it as a possible theory, but then they interview some guys like, sorry, sorry. the NBA told their biggest cash cow ever nah go away

yeah I'm sure that happened for sure yeah that makes perfect sense you know so also his dad loved baseball and it's another one of those things where like Tiger Woods wants to be in the military and that's a lot of reason his game fell off because his dad was a military dude

and then Tiger Woods kind of fell in love with the military and then he's kind of devoted a lot of his attention to that. What? Tiger Woods wants to be in the military? Yeah if you read the Tiger Woods' book is fascinating. The one the caddy wrote about him. I have got to read that. He's done Navy SEAL training.

Really? I'll send you the ESPN article. It's fascinating. It's probably part of the reason, like, has there ever been a golfer so busted up? I'm always hearing about these injuries, and this guy, like, still is, like, isn't he one of the youngest guys on the tour?

And, you know, and he was in 1997. Still sort of is. But I heard he was doing, like, mixed martial arts training. Yeah, because he grew up. What are you doing? He grew up hanging out with all of his dad's military friends. So in all his life, he said if he wasn't in golf, he would have been a Navy SEAL. And then so now that he got all this money, millions of dollars, he paid them to go and do all of the official Navy SEAL training.

And that took him away from golf. And then when all the Eland stuff happened, he dived even deeper into that because he's like, oh, my God, my life is falling apart. I need to find, I need to latch on to something. So he went even deeper into the Navy SEAL training. Now, he's always been in unbelievable shape. Yes. I almost wonder if that, too, because he's had some serious hip and knee problems, right? Yeah.

And they don't report golf injuries the way they report NHL injuries, so we don't know exactly what's wrong, but I wonder if all that training had an effect on his body, because that is, like, they purposely drown you. For a couple instances. John Daly still golfs. Yeah. Yeah. If John Daly is still golfing.

And Tiger Woods' back is broken. Yeah. I think there might be an issue there. Yeah, that's funny. Can I just tell a little aside from the book? Please, please. So he visited one of the Navy SEAL bases, or it might have been an Army base, I'm not sure. And then a guy had a Callaway driver, and then he's like, hey, Tiger, can you sign my driver?

And Tiger's like, no, I can only sign Nike gear. It's like part of my deal. I can only sign anything with Nike. So the guy says, okay, if I can out-drive you, then you've got to sign my driver. So then the guy, he steps up, hits the drive, and it's like 400 yards or something. Tiger goes back, gets his club. He goes on his knees Hits the ball

Outdrives him Come on Shut up Yeah that's a story From the book yeah Wow From his knees He outdrives this dude

Who drove like It was like 350 or something Anyways So yeah It's a great book Damn Wow I believe it too

Like that's a Bugs Bunny Story But I believe it But it's Tiger Woods So you believe it Michael Jordan His dad was also A huge baseball fan

Right So a lot of the reason That Michael wanted to do baseball Because of his dad so same thing with Tiger and he probably figured the way Tim Tebow figures I'm an athlete

I'm strong I'm fast I love it they'll probably let me try it that's the thing I'll try it there's so many people who are probably better

than Tim Tebow who are not even getting a sniff and that's why I think it makes people mad it's because Tim Tim can open those doors and random normal people like us

could never don't hate on him for it I don't I don't you know what I said you know It's professional sports

Why are you hating on P.K. Subban For Going after business ventures Right? Part of his appeal is his profile And his flair Tim Tebow is probably going to help out that minor league team I don't even know where the Mets minor league team is

It doesn't matter They're selling out their next game But it's funny people talk about it as a PR stunt It's the New York Mets They get 35,000 people a game And they're in New York Probably more. Probably more?

No, I checked today. Oh, did you? Yeah. Oh, I know my stuff. They're ninth in the league, which I thought was weird, but it might be the size of the stadium. I don't know. Huh.

Interesting. More appeal. It's not like he'll ever wear a Mets uniform. So that brings me back to my first question, which is what is, if it's not the Tim Tebow popularity, if we want to not name it that, what's the Tim Tebow fascination? Because one of the main things, one of the first things that Skip Bayless had on his first show with Fox Sports 1,

And by the way, Troy Aikman went in and was like, I love that they're going to have to work together. That's going to be hilarious. But we're reading like sportingnews.com has this like review up and they're like Tony Romo and the Dallas Cowboys. Check. Talked about that. Tim Debo.

Check. Check. LeBron missing, missing the clutch gene. Check. Check. Check. He went in on LeBron who's gone to seven NBA finals in a row. Doesn't have the clutch gene.

But anyway, back to Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow. A-OK. Yeah. Yeah. what is even Skip Bayless is

enthralled by this we all are what is it what is it this is an unremarkable by athletic standards by the highest end

athletic standards and I'm not saying normal people remarkable because you make it to pro in anything that's remarkable unremarkable

professional athlete who had the best defense in the league one year and they steamrolled steamrolled to one game

or two in the playoffs I think they lost in the second one Yeah, because they beat the Steelers They beat the Steelers in OT Which freaking killed me I was like, oh, Steelers are going to freaking walk They're going to walk all over these guys

Nope I was like, you've got to be joking me with this Tebow guy And everybody knew Anybody that knows anything about football Knew that coming out of college Tim Tebow was not going to be a good quarterback And couldn't understand why Denver drafted him so high Even though he won the Heisman

The type of offense that they ran Doesn't work in the NFL I don't get it I think it's Wildcat or something The Wildcats So what What is the point Why do we like him

If you saw him in the gym You'd be like Holy smokes But as an athlete That doesn't necessarily mean He's a great athlete I don't know I don't know

It's weird to me That you can be a great College football player And there's no You can't apply it to The NFL at all Sometimes you can But if you look at

Jared Goff Who was pretty Pretty damn good Was he the Heisman Trophy Winner last year or was it the other guy? No, it wasn't. So, Jared Goff,

who, by the way, I think St. Louis traded six picks for? Yeah. A first, second, and third next year, Steve. Derek Henry-Ronald. And a first, second, and third the next year. They traded for this one guy, the LA Rams.

And they got him. And on opening day, they will have a starter, a backup, and a backup to the backup. None of those guys will be Jared Goff, who they traded for. And if the quarterback goes down

and the backup quarterback goes down, guess who their quarterback is? Not him. The punter. No. That's their backup. That's their backup to the backup. That's a real thing.

And they're not, and the coach is like, I think he had a great camp. We're really excited about his progress. He's going to be a great player in this league. So what you're saying is the Tebow story is not even the most ridiculous thing

in professional sports? No, the Adam LaRoche is still the most ridiculous story in professional sports. I think there's quite a bit going on. With a kid in the dressing room. Come on. College football just doesn't

translate over to the NHL. They don't play the NHL NFL It definitely doesn't translate To the NHL They don't play the same systems In terms of just formations Of their teams

It's not the same It's weird Yeah So the World Cup That was really good Yeah It's funny I want to actually play

For you guys Somebody sent me this On Twitter And it's the actual anthem That Team Some of Europe Will play So you guys ready to hear it? This is good

Hang on Let me just Cue it up here I'm excited for this I'm a Barbie girl in a Barbie world I don't know why it's not playing hang on

hang on it's just all the anthems put together you know what it sounds like a little bit what what what oh my god you gotta turn that down

that um That like panic music they play In every movie trailer Like for kids Or the band Like an orchestra before the actual Before the actual concert starts So yeah that's all the European songs

From the seven countries combined into one So supposedly Thank you Jake for that What has actually happened by the way Because it would be amazing if they really did that But supposedly what has happened Is they had an instrumental No words

That they were going to play For Team Europe Team Europe's leadership Turned it down They shot it down And they're not going to play Anything So if they play Canada

It'll be oh Canada And nothing else Team North America They're like okay So what are they going to do They saw this And now they're not going to have anything I thought they were going to play

Both the Canadian and the American Oh that's right They were going to have both And now they're having nothing Oh wow That was the last I read Honestly Who knows

this is the time where you have Yas from Nicki Minaj so what if they play Canada would you play Oh Canada

then Star Spangled Banner then Oh Canada then Star Spangled Banner again cause you gotta play both for North America oh okay there you go

why not why not play Sweden's anthem too just you know climbing it up just to have five it's gonna be a lot of fun this tournament

and it's funny We just demoed NHL 17. Yes. And not only did Steve curb stomp me. Oh, just did. It was pretty bad. But they actually went into some of the things that this game is going to have. And it's one of those years where it's a big leap forward.

Because there's a lot more that's been added in. And we should get into it now. Because there's probably a lot to talk about on it. Can I just say that I love how we talked about anthems and didn't mention Colin Kaepernick. But that's cool Oh wow Or John Tortorella at all Or Tortorella

Do we do that? Do we want to talk about Tortorella? We can go to I don't know What do you want to say about Torts? How do you feel? I can't remember the name Of the reporter who asked him

I kind of hate the reporter Who asked him Like I just Did anyone think He had a different opinion Other than the one he said? Did anyone? And it's not his fault

He was asked And he answered In a John Tortorella way But now We're talking about it Now we're talking about An obvious thing And now we gotta ask Seth Jones about it

And people were getting on Greg Wyshynski Because Seth Jones I think he basically said he had no problem With what Tortorella said People were getting on Wyshynski For saying that Jones Like of course he said that But of course he said that

Tortorella's his coach For games and practices For the next year at least For the next life well yeah until Tortorella gets fired so December yeah

this is what I'm saying I think it's going to be a rough year for Tortorella I'm not going to lie this is what I'm saying I think here's what it is this A

distracts from how terribly constructed TMUSA is which is great for them B I think Torts is not long for this world

and that team is not long for this world the only person probably still left on the Blue Jackets if they have their way by the end of this year will be Seth Jones

Let me throw a little I might live to eat those words by the way I'm sure that will be quoted back to me as they make the playoffs It was a very confident statement Here, I'll save you Maybe it's to Tortorella's benefit That Team USA on paper kind of sucks Because no one is expecting anything from them

And if they go far Maybe even win the thing We're all of a sudden talking about Tortorella Like he's a Jack Adams candidate again Because he took this scruffy group of grinders And he beat Team Canada And he beat Team Sweden and Russia You know how we always talk about

The effect that 93 Toronto Maple Leafs Had on the city of Toronto That this lunch pail Hard hat boot wearing Team Tell you what team that worked real hard And put their shovels in the ground And pushed heavy things

Or whatever else Whatever stupid analogy you want to use Pushed heavy things I don't know, dug things out of the ground, whatever it was that you wanted to say. The effect that had on Leaf fans was sort of devastating, because Leaf fans from then on fell in love with the anti-heroes. They fell in love with the guys who went out on the ice and worked hard and didn't score any points. Across all sports.

Across all sports. Yeah! Why is baseball player? Couldn't say enough great things about Clark, Gilmore, Tucker, Roberts. Sundin nothing screw Sundin nothing

he's European and that Kenny Johnson kid get Wendell Clark back McGill yeah who the hell is that is he going to go on to get Wendell Clark back

you know what I mean he's going to go on to anchor the Islanders power play for the next six years you gave us a sweet hero here we'll give you a sweet we'll give you a sweet back

we'll give you a sweet back oh it's painful and we'll give you Luongo and Niedermeyer too so you know I think I wonder if And this is a very far-stretching, reaching statement, okay?

So just bear with me on this one. This one is a real stretch. But do you think the Miracle on Ice team had an effect on USA Hockey? Because every single time I see USA Hockey assembled, with the exception of the Vancouver Olympics, where they were phenomenal, great, great team. Every time I see them assembled, A, they underperform, or B, it's like scrappy, scrappy USA.

Scrappy, oh, and here comes Scrappy Little USA. Only 330 million of them. Are you telling me, are you telling me that they really put this team together and they really thought it was the best team? I don't think so. To me, it feels like, it's like, no, we want to be the underdog in a way. We want to be the scrappy guys. And then it's almost like they're looking at the World Cup of Hockey

like it's a playoff series. It kind of is, though. There's only eight teams. Right, but all of them are different teams, so it's not. But it's like it's starting at the same time. It's a series of one gamers. It's a series of one gamers. So anyone can win, man.

Anyone can win. And you know what? Their goalies are great. If you grind your opponent down and they have great goaltending. Goaltending's amazing. I don't know. I just wonder if it's like if they're not that they would intentionally pick a team because I wouldn't be that ludicrous, but it almost is like it's like they look at it

like it's like they look at it like, well, let's let's pick the let's pick the tough guys, because that's how we won the last big one. You know? I don't know. I don't know. And again, please don't get mad at me because Pavelski and all the other rest of those guys are great players. I'm not saying that. They need to get a Mike Richter-like performance out of

whoever their starting goalie is. Is my point. Jesse, you brought up the anthem thing. What do you think? The torts thing or the Kaepernick thing? Let's go with torts right now. We're talking about torts, and then we've got to go to break, and then we'll come back with Kaepernick. Sure.

I think I side with you where no one should have asked John Tortorella what he thinks. Why? Because, what do you expect? He said what we expected John Tortorella to do. So, Torts is who we think he is? Exactly. But he's not being let off the hook. Wow.

Because people continue to write about it. Right. But he's a man. He's 40. He's not a kid. Do you think he reads the newspaper? Probably not. Because it's garbage. and they need to get their facts straight.

Know the facts. All right. All right. That's an interesting I do want to we should tackle Kaepernick. We should talk about it and we will talk about it

when we come back on Sportsnet 590 The Fan. It is the Steve Dangle podcast. So we're talking about obviously Tortorella's comments which have been beaten to death and we have been talking and we were going to transition

into Kaepernick but before we do go here's the thing. the thing that gets me about this whole thing and this is what's been tweeted at me because obviously I disagree with John Tortorella do you get tweets? I do get tweets from time to time

and here's the thing John Tortorella is wrong period end of story, he's wrong should he be stripped of his title as coach of Team USA I mean it's his right to have an opinion

so probably not I questioned him being selected as the head coach just based on his merits. Period. Not on his opinion. Beyond that, what kills me in all this is the people that are tweeting me going,

well, if you're so upset with the USA, why would you go represent your country if you're so mad at it? Why would you put on your country's colors if you're not willing to stand for the national anthem? And to that I say this. The two are not linked. I can be extremely pissed off

With what is happening here in Canada Many times I have been I'm really mad right now at the city of Toronto You should have heard Adam scream at the traffic On the way here And the social issues here While not as pronounced Still exist

And we have a huge problem with And if you go into it Huge problem with the way we've treated our native population It's embarrassing It's painful What drives me insane is these people that say, well, if you're mad at your country,

why would you represent them? Well, it's still my country and I still love my country. I just don't think my country is being the best country it could be right now. It's like having a kid. You still love your kids.

It's like having a dog. Still love your dog. You're not going to abandon your dog because your dog is bad and not acting the way it should. You're not going to abandon your country because your country is not acting the way it should.

These people that say Colin Kaepernick should leave. If he's, find a country, Donald Trump, Final country that works better for him That is not what it's about Can you do that Don? Can you please do that Don? That's not what it's about

The point is you can be mad at something And still go and be a part of it And be proud of it It's a complicated issue but it's true Are you upset at the problems in El Salvador? You know what? I'm not educated on the problems in El Salvador Yeah because you care about the problems in Canada

Because you live here and you're from here Right Maybe if you were from El Salvador or you would care and be upset at it when it did something wrong. But you're not from there, so you don't care about it. It's hard to care about that many things.

So you care about the problems in Canada and you're upset about it because you're from here. Yeah. Exactly. I don't get it. No, I see what you're doing. So what do you think about Kaepernick, Jesse?

I think that he's brave for doing what he's doing because he makes millions of dollars and he might cost himself those millions of dollars your contract in the nfl isn't guaranteed they could have cut him a long time ago if they didn't want to deal with this so and by the way he's not he wasn't even he's not even their starter quarterback right now he's the backup yeah and then um people are talking about it so he clearly did something that effect that's trying to affect change who knows if

anything's going to come of it but he follows along the lines of athletes who have stood up for things like muhammad ali who just passed away he's trying to lump himself in that group and good on him for doing that one and what is what has been interesting to me is how many people i mean it's been going around twitter and it's the easy thing to say but how many people were like rest in peace muhammad ali did so many great things with his life he was bigger than just boxing and then screw calling gabbard for doing the exact same thing is that just the rule like if you do if you stand up for something it takes 30 years for it to be appreciated Yeah, it's like art.

Right? Art, like most artists aren't appreciated until they're dead. Well, there it is. The thing that gets me, and I think, actually, I got this from The Daily Show. But Trevor Noah came on and he said, listen, it's okay to be pro-black and pro-police. We all should be pro-black and pro-everything. Pro-race, like race exclusion, I'm sorry, inclusion, not exclusion. Adam's not good with the words.

Yeah, I'm not. And pro-police. This is not what this is about. This is about changing societal norms. To me, I don't see it as a police versus anyone issue. Because 99% of the police are amazing. It's the freaking idiots that you got to get rid of. Just like 99% of any particular group of people that you pick out are great.

It's the idiots that you have to stop. The fascinating thing, and we talked about this in the car on the way here, Colin Kaepernick's not the only person who's done this. right no so one of his teammates joined him what's his name don't know anyone know someone on the seahawks did it what's his name no idea anyone know uh there was a women's soccer player who did it you know her name i don't i think it was megan rapinoe i you think i think right um and only because there was a follow-up to that and uh i want to say there was another we don't know the other people who have done it because the people both the people who are angry

and the people who are happy with them because jersey sales have gone up are fascinated with this one guy like the gesture is almost the the gesture is almost secondary the stance the protest is almost secondary and what is now third is why he was doing it in the freaking first place yeah it's the last part of the equation that we're talking about it's uh it's all a mess i don't know how it ends it gets me so mad that that um people's instant reaction rather than to go what is this person's experience what is this person's um why why do they feel this way their instant reaction is to react and react negatively because and and not only that and i i get an instant reaction that's

negative sometimes i hear things that i don't want to hear and then i realize later you know what i shouldn't react like that and i i reacted in anger and you know what you were right to say that and i'm sorry that i reacted negatively to that and i should have listened it's it's this hard stance i'm going to react negatively and because i reacted negatively even when i'm wrong and I'm going to stick to it. I'm going to give you all great life advice that I need to learn to follow myself on a consistent basis.

Give it a sec, comma, think, sorry, give it a sec, comma, tweet less. Tweet less. Give it a sec. Don't tweet as much. And if you're really, really not sure about it, sleep on it.

Yeah. Never lob a grenade from bed. No, good point. Good point. Now, if you really want somebody who can articulate this perfectly in only the way this person can, listen to what Bill Burr had to say about this whole issue, I think. I thought he was pretty freaking brilliant.

In the everyman way that he does it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think history is going to look back on Colin Kaepernick and realize how important what he did is. Because if you think about what's happening right now, we're in the middle of an election season,

and he's doing all this. And we're a hockey podcast in Toronto, and we're talking about it. Yeah. And he got Obama to address it not once, but twice. Because he had to. Dude, you know what I was thinking, actually, before Obama addressed it? I'm like, oh my God, they're going to bring this up at the debate. They're going to bring this up at the presidential debate.

What an NFL backup quarterback did. Yeah. Guaranteed, they're going to go, Ms. Clinton, or Secretary, is she a secretary? Secretary Clinton, what do you think about the Colin Kaepernick thing? Well thank you for your question And it's your right As an American to ask it

Candidate Trump What do you think Listen Here's the thing I'm gonna make my stupid Little fish face About it And my goofy little

Hand gestures Oh my god Would I have taken That guy's lunch money Your impression is Pretty freaking good man We finally found Steve's new impression

The hand gestures Can you Can you please do me a favor Let's give him a mammogram Every time he talks Can you Please He's a foot away from the presidency!

Please, when you do your LFR videos, when the Leafs lose, please have, what does Donald Trump think about this game? Because I think that is a really great impression, man. You've got to watch the YouTube version of this. That was great.

Alright, so the Leafs are in last place. Alright? But they're a great team. Great team. You're going to love them. They've been a great team since, I don't even know, some of my best friends played for the Toronto Maple Leafs. Some of my best friends are Leafs fans. They deserve more, but they're going to give more.

You know what I'm saying? What? What did you just say, you crazy quack? Sorry. By the way, Donald Trump tweeted something. Every sentence. I love Twitter. I send tweets all the time.

I tweet about the Leafs. The Leafs are beautiful. They're great people. They're great people. They're great people. Beautiful people. Wonderful. Alright, so here's what Donald Trump actually tweeted

Once This is from April 3rd, 2013 I feel like Donald Trump might be the Tim Tebow of politics You just can't look away And for no reason at all This had no reason at all Remember, he was not running for president at this point He just one day picked up his phone and said

This is what I'm going to tweet, and I quote I got something I played football and baseball Sorry But I was said to be the best baseball player in New York State Asked coach Ted Tobias Said I was the best he ever coached Just a random tweet on an April morning

April 9th 9.51am He's having his coffee He's like you know what Sorry everybody I was one of the best No the best The best

I'm sorry The best Bullying's wrong Bullying's wrong You shouldn't bully but there's something so cleansing about a punch in the nose

yeah and this guy never got one no never once he didn't he didn't holy smokes yeah

how do you say that and mean it this guy's doctor said he was the most healthy presidential candidate in history and then the doctors and then they went

into the doctor's credentials and they're all super dubious and he still uses Windows XP oh my god Donald Trump uses Windows XP oh

I love when people pick out small details like that's the best alright now I'm gonna go into my classified documents are you kidding me that was the only

takeaway that the internet had from the picture of his doctor on the computer it was Windows XP that and he looked like the dude

from the Big Lebowski he's probably still got the DVD of those two people from Friends who did the Windows 95 walkthrough I think it was

Jennifer Aniston and Matthew Perry did an actual one hour DVD video on how to use Windows 95. The 90s were a weird time. It was a weird time.

I don't care for friends. Me neither. Let's completely switch gears and let's talk about NHL 17, the game. Because we did. We just said we were going to do it. Let's talk about it.

First off, all the World Cup players including the ones not in the NHLPA and all the jerseys are included just in case you're wondering. Very cool.

I'm surprised they were able to get that done. Me too. There's a surprising amount of ticker tape or whatever red tape to get through

for that sort of thing it's the reason why they've never had the proper Team Canada or Team USA jerseys when you try to play as Team Canada

you know internationally in the game but they got all the World Cup jerseys like you said and I don't know

who the KHL players are or whatever players are I'm trying to think I guess Kovalchuk will be in the game so there will be a few guys

Datsuk He's not on an NHL team. But there's never a KHL in the game, right? No, and that's a KHL licensing thing. So I wonder if, like, guys, will the World Cup be the only place now that you can play Kovalchuk and Detsuk? Yes.

So you can't? No. Can you get them in other modes? Yeah, if they're on a roster in the game, you can take them from there and put them in wherever. But they probably won't be if they're in the KHL, right? They probably would have been on Team Russia anyway. Oh.

So you can take them off Team Russia if you want, And before you start, you're like, be a GM and put them on the Leafs if you want. Point being, there's a World Cup mode. Well, Datsuk and Kovalchuk are joining my Toronto Maple Leafs this year. No, it seems, what's amazing about this game, to me, is the franchise mode. Like, I know everybody's talking about the online stuff, and we'll get to that, and it's super cool. But the fact that you not only have to be the GM, but you have to be a player, and you have to be the president

and you have to be the guy that sets ticket prices and concessions. Hot dog prices. Yeah, like, everything. The color of the seats. It's amazing.

Yeah, you get to control a crazy, crazy amount. And franchise mode, well, be a GM or whatever it was, was what I grew up with. It's how I fell in love with all the NHL games.

Now I almost feel like there's too much. There's too much. I'm not going to dedicate all that time. Yeah, because it's a lot of time. It would take a couple hours to set your ticket prices?

Like, imagine I have a great record and I make great trades and my team does really well and we win the Stanley Cup, but I have a poor ranking because I didn't change the hot dog price. Like, I didn't take the half hour to go through all the minutia.

You know what I mean? Yeah. That would drive me insane. And it did drive me insane the couple times I tried it when they started getting more and more. Like, why are my fans so unhappy? I just won three straight cups.

Well, it's because you didn't give them a free t-shirt night, you jackass. Well, now there's a free t-shirt night that I can do and a bobblehead night. Yeah. It's amazing. And it's really cool. Now, let's talk about what everybody wants to know, which is the online stuff. I thought you were going to say how Steve kicked your butt.

Well, that will be in the video. Four to nothing. I was the Sharks. He was the Oilers. Yeah, well, that might be part of it. Kim Talbot did not do a Ben Scriven's impression that night. Actually, Kim Talbot was quite good. Letting four goals.

Okay. 28 shots? Actually, yeah, that's right. That's all it was, 28 shots. I did hold you to 28 shots, which is better than I thought. I actually thought it was going to be way worse. I was just basically, my defensive plan was to throw electronic bodies in front of Steve's players.

Just make sure you got in front of the shot. And so I blocked a bunch of shots, but that was about it. That's all I could do. First minute, I was like, this is going to be great. Second minute, I'm like, uh-oh, Adam's bringing it. Adam's bringing it. No, I suck. Um, but, so what, what did, for you, Steve, who plays online all the time, got all the

way to Div 7, uh, Div 3, and before losing like 12 straight games, what, um, what do you like about the new online structure? Because there's some new stuff. There is some new stuff. Um, I like what they're doing with drop-ins for EASHL. So basically, for those of you not familiar with the game, you can be one individual player and you go online and everyone is their own individual player. So you can be either of the wings, center, either of the D, or a goalie.

You can have up to 12 people in a game. Wow. Now, you can join a league, and you can play with all your friends and have your own team, which I think you were able to do before. But I never did it because, one, every time I posted online about a team, it would fill up. And it's not like those people are online all the time. So there's like some organization to it, right? Yeah.

You got to actually like... Pick a night. Yeah, pick a night, text your friends, or send a message to your friends, hey, are we playing now or what? So I didn't have patience for any of that. So what I did was drop-ins. The problem is you're playing against strangers, and strangers are lunatics. So what they're doing is, maybe you can explain it a little bit better than me,

but it's basically you play against some people in a drop-in game, it goes well, you all get along, so they're more likely to pop up again if you guys are looking for drop-ins together. you're less likely to encounter a jerk who just plays their music into their headphones into their headset just to be a jerk does this happen to you all the time that's amazing i think they do that just to screw you up oh yeah totally absolutely and so i just turn my headset off and go mute or or you know your teammate who gives you nothing but grief the other night my goalie the goalies always wear a headset because goalies always have something to say and he was chirping my defensive

abilities we were down two nothing at the time and he felt kind of sad about it kind of angry about it maybe you should have stopped the puck there last line of defense anyway I score the 4-4 tying goal and assist on the 5-4 game winning goal and you know what at the end of the game he took the high road and said you know what yellow you really improved that was really good good team win guys And my response was, I would just like to talk about how good I am at this game. Holy smokes, am I good. Scored the game-tying goal, assisted on the game-winning goal. What would you guys do without me?

Did you actually say that? A hundred percent. I plugged my headset back in to chirp this man. What was their response? I wasn't listening. I could hear them trying to talk, like, oh, okay, okay. And I'm like, oh, I'm the MVP, I'm the best. Adam, when you're a winner, you don't have to listen.

Steve, how old are you? 28 Just checking And you know When Steve has kids His baby will sit next to him On the couch As he does all of these same things

Nothing will change People are looking for If you're looking for adulthood From the three of us It's not happening But I mean I don't think it's too much Of a stretch to think

That Steve will be On the couch And his kid will join him One day Playing online And calling people up Steve's child Will never win a game

Of anything Oh I'm gonna dunk On that kid You'll be the one swatting away shots when he's like 11 trying to play basketball. I'll give that kid his allowance, his or her allowance, when he or she can cross the blue line. I'm just going to... Elbows to the neck every time they try to enter the offensive zone.

So anyway, it sounds like they will make it easier to avoid lunatics like myself or others. So I would be less likely to be in a game with that goalie again or with someone who scores on his own net on purpose like a sociopath. Do people do that? All the time. There was one guy, and I know it was one guy because I got put into three or four games with this guy. So this guy would take on different personas every week.

Can you not block these people so you don't drop in with them? I don't know. I don't want to take the time to even block them. I'm just trying to play my stupid hockey game, okay? But this one guy, what he would do, this jerk, is sometimes he would take on a persona, Sometimes he wouldn't say anything And he would just be quiet

So that you didn't suspect anything Then the center would win the faceoff back to him This could be multiple people by the way No, no, same name No, it was the same name Same username every time Center would win the puck back to this defender He would always be my defense partner too

He would take the puck back to our goalie Pass it into the net And then literally and freak out and the entire team would just be like you idiot and just quit and the guy like bragged oh yeah i've done this 800 900 times something like that you know why because all his games are 30 seconds long because everybody quit yes yeah so the new online modes will help you enjoy the game, which is as good as it's ever been. The gameplay is as good as

it's ever been, but what screws it up is how the people use the modes. Right, and by the way, the puck is far more alive than it ever has been, and goalies have completely changed the way goalies stand, and the physics of the puck has changed, and so they're getting rebounds

that they've never seen before. So, supposedly that was by accident. They didn't actually make the puck more lively, which is what I kept saying during the video that I'll eventually upload. It's the way the puck is hitting the goalie now. So, if you're a defender again, like me, and you just throw

a shot at the net, the goalie isn't going to just automatically absorb it now. Right. They might have to bat it down. What was the Leafs' old goalie coach? Because they worked with... Frankie. Oh, Francois Allaire. They worked with Eddie Lack to create a whole bunch of new motions for the goaltenders. So, he's doing

all these moves you've never seen in an NHL game before, so the puck's bouncing all these different ways. It's a little ironic, though, that a goalie helped out in depth with the NHL games and accidentally made all the goalies worse. That's not true. He didn't make them worse. He actually made them much better, but

he did create new ways to stop the puck and new ways to score, which to me just makes it more authentic. I was saying to Sean Ramjack, saying the guy who, he's the producer of the game, where do you go? Where do you go from here?

He's already working on NHL 18. I'm like, what's left? They are now working on net front battles as well, which is something that the game has been sorely missing, I think. It's one of those things where I've been a fan of the NHL games all my life and I've always had something to say, and now I'm like, I have no notes. I have no notes.

There's nothing else I want in this game. I'd like the Olympics if they could ever work that out. Okay, there's the one thing. That's the IOC. Yeah, and that's not even their fault. No, it's the IOC. That's not their problem, right? Hey, we got to go on the radio portion.

This show is brought to you by Panago Pizza. It's what's on the inside that counts. On the offline portion, I have a surprise of all surprises. Something that absolutely shocked me yesterday that I think is going to blow everyone's collective mind and it's about this show. And I don't think anybody knows this, but it is crazy. Do I know it?

No, you don't. And I will tell you after that. Plus, we're going to do a quick press conference too. So Have you ever thought about The legacy of this podcast The legacy I'm not sure

No because I've never thought of the end of it Cultural relevance then Legacy may be the wrong word Cultural relevance Because I really haven't I haven't thought legacy I haven't thought cultural relevance Which is why this thing

That I'm about to blow your mind with Jesse knows Sorry I realized what he was talking about This is always Is this not the coolest, Jesse? This is pretty cool. So everyone on the YouTube portion, you're now taking part in a terrifying moment in my life,

which is when Adam and Jesse both look at me. What's happening? What do you think? I don't know. I have no idea. Well, I'm going to blow your mind with this. Okay. The Steve Dangle podcast is now officially a part of a university course.

What? Yeah, clap away. We are now source material on a course at Ryerson University. Get the fuck... We're on the online course. Hey, Ryerson students, when you're online, you can say fuck.

They have to listen to our show and they have to analyze what works about it and what doesn't. So we are part of their course material. I'd like those notes, please. I don't care. I'm just interested in what they have to say. How big of a font are you allowed to write

Steve interrupts them too much I don't know Probably 72 Someone's name is on this show You can interrupt as much as you want Emperor Steve That should be a shirt Emperor Steve

My butler says I'm very down to earth So isn't that neat That's incredible What course Who teaches it I assume it's sports broadcasting You know what Well that's a program

No this is actually this is not a sports broadcasting course this is just a podcast course well within yeah no not within sports

well within the like media hub now right but they have a sports broadcasting program and they have a I guess a media program yeah and they take your

classes within that so yeah congratulations fellas we're now part of a university course I didn't even make it through university

if you're part of this course please tweet at us I assume that's what happened well actually I know somebody who's in the course who if we didn't run out of time today we would have called her

She's the one that alerted me to it So we're going to talk to her And see what she thinks But I think it's hilarious that If Ryerson students If they are listening to this They would listen to this episode too So we got the alert on time

That's got to be creepy I hope you're not baked It's weird I hope you are Because we're talking to you Like literally Right now You

Everything is good about this show Let's do the press conference The Presser SDP The Steve Dangle Press Conference This question comes from Sarah Louise Oh great Never heard of her

Ask Steve About the completely Believable story he told So he could sneak out And buy his card So Hold on Back story here is

Mrs. Dangle finally got Her anniversary card Yes Which is really all she wanted For her anniversary All she wanted was a card Finally gave it to her So we were coming home

from the gym and we were about to go out to dinner. Aw, a couple gym time. Aw. Hey, we're a fit fam. Do you guys wear the same outfits?

Do you guys match? Sort of. Yeah, we usually wear like all the time. She probably doesn't have any Hockey Canada gear. Hey, hey. She's fresh out of

Hockey Canada gym shorts. I don't wear those to the gym. I wear my also free Nike shirts. My also free Nike spandex. Yeah, that you won't wear out now

because you've worn them out. But still have them for the gym. Anyway, you were saying. Yeah, thank you, Adam. Thank you, Adam. We're running out of time, so I want to get this out.

Adam makes fun of his friends too much. Add that to that. So we're coming home from the gym. We're about to go out to dinner. So I start

maniacally just going, oh, no. I think I left something at the park because I took Iggy for a walk to the park where there's a Pokemon gym

earlier in the day. And I was like, oh, I left something at the park. And she goes, what? And I go, I don't know. I just have a feeling. I left something at the park. And the thing about me is I lose shit all the time.

And so she's like, oh, well, okay, we'll go look for it on the way to dinner. I'm like, no, no, no. You have a shower. And while you're in the shower, I'll go to the park and look for it. And she's just like, oh, all right. Just so mad that I would lose something

and potentially make us late for our reservations. So I went down to Adam's old stomping grounds, go to a shopper's drug mart, bought a card and an envelope. Sorry, me and Drake. Me and Drake. Oh, that's right. You started from the bottom.

Now you're doing the shitty podcast. Out of the Scarborough Mines. From the Scarborough Mines to here. Yes, yes, yes. The Scarborough Mines like Zoolander. Went to a shopper's drug mart, bought a card and envelope and a marker. Wrote her a very sweet and thoughtful...

And a marker. And a marker. Did you use pink or purple? Are you sure it wasn't a crayon? I wanted to use red. did you spell the e backwards she would have appreciated that okay we do cutesy wootsy things like that because we're a very fun loving couple jesse lots of fun okay and uh i uh hid the card in my shirt and after we had ordered our meals i presented her with the card and she

loved it now she did and i think that's really sweet of you so congratulations congratulations steve you made it right that's good here's my thing i love that she believed you when you said oh i lost i can't even remember yeah well by her tweet it sounds like she didn't believe you because she's a completely believable story that steve no i think she's being serious because she's see it's interesting that you interpreted that way jesse because either way she's insulting me if you go by the way jesse said she's saying that my my ruse was shitty yeah if you go by her actually meaning it she believes that i'm that much of an idiot not only would i forget something but i would forget what it was that i forgot

so either way i'm stupid but uh got her a card and uh inside i believe i wrote uh to the most tolerant wife in the world, may I be the most tolerant man you ever marry. Or tolerable man you ever marry. Oh, okay. Tolerant wouldn't make any sense. To the most tolerant wife in the world, may I be the most tolerable man you ever marry. Can you guys quickly give advice

to Clayman, who's going on his first date this week? Oh, damn. Okay, we got two minutes to do this. Let's go. Okay, okay. Don't fuck it up. Just be yourself. You don't have to. If it's your first date, you don't have to talk about your exes. Never talk about your ex on the first date. What if, like, being yourself what if you suck then it wasn't meant to be because so many people go oh well what if being

myself isn't good enough okay well the other option is you say all this other stuff and you pretend to be this person and now you got to pretend to be that person forever and the thing is you slowly turn into the person you actually are you're not compatible with the person that you're talking to and you end up hating each other or they certainly end up hating you here's the key be yourself it's okay if they don't like you oh it's not the end of what is for you will not go by you. Put it that way. Who said that? Huh? Is that not a mild quote? Sure.

No, it used to be something my parents used to say. You sound like a wise aunt. Napoleon Dynamite quote. Auntie Wilde wants to tell you, listen, the deal is, be yourself. Don't be a jackass. Save the jackassery for later on in the relationship, because we all are. But just

be a kind, polite person. Listen to them. Look them in the eye. Actually listen to them. Actually listen to them, and you'll be fine. Whenever someone goes on a date Well, I didn't do much dating But this has been my observation Everyone worries about their answers

Focus more on your questions Let them talk Ask them about themselves Steve's right, Steve's had two girlfriends But Steve has been quite successful with the second one I would say Mediocre at best She sends shitty tweets

Thanks so much for listening We are going to come back next week And we'll have an announcement then About when we're going to two episodes We've also got some big stuff in the wings. Oh, holy shit, do we have big things. But that's all that we can say right now. So this is a little teaser before it gets crazy.

And by the way, we're getting crazy early this year because of the World Cup. Crazy. Thumbs up. Love you. See you, Mo. Follow the guys on Twitter at Steve underscore Dangle. At Adam W-Y-L-D-E. And at Jesse Blake.

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