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The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde.
Hey, I know we're a hockey podcast, but welcome back Monday Night Football.
Yes. I'm not even going to applaud that.
Yes. I'm not going to applaud that.
And by the way, the Steelers dominating the team that shall not be named because it's racist.
The Seahawks.
Right
There's another one?
There's another one
Yeah
And you know what's great about it
Is they burned
This team from Washington
Burned a terrible towel
Before the game
Why would they do that?
As a rally
Well
Exactly
And then they got stomped
How could they?
Well and
There's karma
Yeah
There's towel karma
And of course
After that game happened
The LA Rams
Played their first game
Since 1994
Which I bet St. Louis
All of St. Louis hated
Well
you see
Los Angeles
there
they had a football game
lots of things
they had the pigskin
getting tossed around
first down
second down
third down
maybe even a fourth
on occasion
yeah it's not the Canadian game
it's the American game
touchdowns
field goals
I don't know if anyone
went for two
but I mean
you don't take it off
the table
yeah
not like st louis though they're they're down to i guess just the blues and the cardinals
i think now i'm glad we waited for that aren't you glad we waited for that jesse
well it's funny because things have not gone well for the rams since moving to la uh i mean
obviously they're going to make it's not a very long time well it's been a bad time uh they're
going to make a Roman Empire
treasure trove full of cash.
But the team's going to be terrible.
They're the Leafs.
They're worse, I think, than the
Leafs have ever been. And I say that after the last
two. They're so bad. Adam,
where did the Leafs finish in the standings?
They finished dead last, but I think the Rams
literally couldn't be worse.
Hold on. They had 69 points
though, which is nice. Hold on.
What if the Leafs drafted Austin Matthews
and Austin Matthews was
so bad that he didn't
even dress
opening night?
I would probably...
I don't know what I would do.
Jesse, can you look up the particulars of the Jared Goff
trade for me, please?
Oh, you were trying to explain this to me.
Didn't they make a movie
about how ridiculous NFL...
Yeah, it's called Draft Day.
And it's with Kevin Costner.
And his wife
is randomly Ben Affleck's wife.
Jennifer Garner. And she's pregnant.
And that adds a whole new level of drama
As if draft day wasn't enough drama
Somebody's pregnant and they shouldn't be
Is it based on a draft that actually happened?
No, no
And it's hilarious
Because he's the GM of the Cleveland Browns
And the Browns do well at the draft
Which, oh come on, really?
That was like Moneyball
So the great thing about Moneyball
Is it's actually based on real life
But because my baseball knowledge is not very good
Especially outside of the Blue Jays going back
I was enthralled because I didn't know what was going to happen next
And at the very end they're like
Well we'd like to give you an offer to join the Boston Red Sox
And I'm like oh and then they won the World Series next year
And then he turns it down and I'm like what?
Yeah and he could have made 12 million bucks a year too
The end of the movie is he makes one of the worst decisions of all time
Yep
I was so invested in this guy
He could have been drinking coffee with Theo Epstein in that little box all year long
No, but no, he's back in Oakland.
No!
No!
Back in cool old Oakland.
Have you got the, have you pulled it up yet?
I can't find which picks they were exactly.
I just want to get that.
Okay, all right.
They made a blunder.
So here's the deal.
Derek Goff is a guy who did quite well in his college career.
Okay?
Tim Tebow.
But all major central scouting reports had him pegged as okay.
Okay.
Just okay?
Yeah, just okay, I would say.
And what's hilarious about this is that the L.A. franchise didn't have to draft him.
They didn't have to go after him.
They didn't even have the first overall pick.
But they traded a bunch of picks, and I'll tell you what those picks were.
To move up, I think, four or five spaces.
Not much.
I think you've told me before.
I can't remember offhand.
Jesse is still furiously looking.
How is this hard to find?
This is crazy.
It won't come up in Google.
You know what?
That's how you know it's a bad trade.
Also no one cares about the NFL draft
So Steve
What?
Last night
There we go
The Los Angeles
Hold on yeah hang on to that
The Los Angeles Rams last night
Went into their first game
And won
And lost big
And not only lost big
Lost boring
Lost big and boring?
That's how you know you got stomped
Is when the 49ers come in and you lost boring
So it didn't even have the charm of a 9-2 loss to Nashville?
No, 22 years, and it wasn't even interesting.
Now, here's the thing.
The starting quarterback was not Jared Goff.
The backup quarterback was not Jared Goff,
but both of them are career quarterbacks.
Do you know who the third quarterback,
if both of those guys went down, was?
Do you know?
I'm going to go with Jared Goff.
It was the punter.
Oh.
Oh.
So the punter for the Rams is a better quarterback than Jared Goff.
Who the Rams gave up how much for, Jesse?
So, the Titans, who had the number one overall pick,
in exchange for that pick, they got the 15th overall pick,
two second round picks, a third round pick,
and the Rams' first round pick in 2017.
A football team.
And their third round pick in 2017.
Just a football team, in exchange for this one guy we're not going to use.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
And the Rams' head coach coming out of training camp was like,
Don't worry.
He had a great camp.
We're just warming him up.
Okay.
Can you imagine that happens to Austin Matthews in Toronto?
People would lose their minds.
The only reason this team can get away with this is because they just moved to L.A.
Now, there was—
Sorry, go ahead.
Sorry.
Well, one thought before you continue, Adam.
I don't think this will be the first time—
Or, sorry.
I don't think this will be the only time on this podcast where we wonder whether or not
just some random sports fan off the street could run a sports team.
Doesn't matter the sport.
You could run a sports team better than the people actually in charge.
I think that you could have made half of that trade in Madden and got that pick.
Like, that's how ridiculous that is.
Now, there was one interesting moment from the game last night, and I'm not sure if you've heard this yet,
but a guy decided that he was going to jump on the field, and the announcers got a little bored.
Four looks into the nickel of San Francisco in the secondary.
Hey, somebody has run out on the field.
some goofball and a hat and a red shirt now he takes off the shirt he's running down the middle
by the 50 he's at the 30 he's bare chested and banging his chest now he runs the opposite way
he runs at the 50 he runs at the 40 the guy is drunk but there he goes the 20 they're chasing
him they're not gonna get him waving his arms bare chested somebody stop that now here comes
the blue coat oh they got him here comes the blue goats oh and they tackle him at the 40 yard line
That was the most exciting thing to happen tonight
I tell you what, that was a great call
Yes it was
Kevin Hartland for Westwood won
Damn, that was a radio call by the way
You know what, at the very beginning there
Some goofball, I'm like right away
He's going to be like, someone's on the field
Turn the camera away
Put it on someone in the audience
We don't want to encourage that type of thing
Screw that, you are the play-by-play commentator
and the play-by-play commentator
during a boar fest.
Get it going! Get me excited!
Why am I watching this game? Holy smokes!
I'm going to come back because
even though it's a crappy team, I know you're
going to spice it up a little bit. Absolutely.
And when they do have a big game, it'll mean
more. One, because they're bad and the
good games will be rare. Two, because of you
sir. Because of you. He did that team
a favor. He did. Maybe not the security staff.
Now the best part about this is
who they put the camera on during this call.
Because ESPN and I think the NFL got wise to the fact that people were doing this
because they wanted to be on TV.
So to rob them of getting on the TV experience, which sucks for us as fans
because typical NFL, they don't want us to have any fun.
They put the camera squarely on the coach of the Los Angeles Rams
whose team just happened to be down by 21 points.
They hadn't even scored a point at that point.
So you just see this angry old man with his arms crossed
And every once in a while you see heads from the security run by
And that's all you see
It's amazing
Just an amazing set of experiences
Thank God the NFL is back
Now I have this article queued
I didn't read it
But it's from Deadspin
Supposedly the dude who took off his shirt and was running around the field
Had his cell phone number written on his chest
Nice
And the title of the Deadspin article is, you know, goofball had number written on his chest.
The idiot on the field at Monday Night Football wrote his number on his chest, so we called him.
So they called him.
That's amazing.
I bet he's still in jail.
I want to know what happened.
Oh, yeah, probably wasn't able to answer his phone.
Oh, man.
What a hero.
Oh, they talked to him.
They did?
What'd they say?
There was a whole interview there.
Oh, my God.
Get out.
That's awesome.
It makes me sad that I did not have time to look at that today.
Oh, my God.
That is so awesome.
So we've got to get to hockey, because that's inevitably what we do.
But I just thought, shout-outs to that, because it was a terrible game otherwise.
Steelers, though.
What's up, Steelers Nation?
Hey, I can appreciate anyone who spices up a crappy game.
Absolutely.
As a Leaf fan.
That ain't easy.
I can appreciate it.
Now, do we actually know if Michelle Tarian chirped Max Patrick?
No, we do not know that.
So what have we talked about on this podcast before?
And Andrew Berkshire, I think, has talked about this before.
Montreal is poorly managed.
Yes.
Well, yeah, certainly that.
But also, stuff gets broken in the French media that somehow or another, in this hockey-mad country, in that hockey-mad media market, that bilingual hockey-mad media market.
Yeah, what's their excuse?
It doesn't trickle into English.
Somehow, we don't hear about it.
Oh, we heard about this one.
Not as much as I would have thought, but we did hear about this one.
It broke in the French media that, at some point in time, didn't quite say when, I don't think.
Michelle Tarian referred to Max Pacioretty as the worst captain in Montreal Canadiens history.
Well, when you're the worst coach in Montreal Canadiens history.
But seriously, what are the circumstances?
How do we know this happened?
Do we have them on tape?
No.
No, my God.
If we did, then we'd be talking uncertainties, right?
That would be a coup.
You'd have to fire.
Yeah, you'd have to.
You'd have to.
Or patches, or you'd have to trade patches, which they would probably do.
Because they traded Subban, so anything's possible.
Absolutely.
So people were talking about, okay, first of all, we're just going to take this guy's word for it.
We're just going to take this random Quebecois radio host's word for it, that Michel Tarian,
he's just walking around town blabbing about his captain, poorly.
Does anyone who will listen, any stranger, what kind of idiot coach would do that?
No one.
That's who.
And then someone tweeted
An article from
I think it was
Two years ago
Steve Spot
Allegedly talking about
Phil Kessel
And how he won't listen
During a hockey camp
Before he ever
Was an assistant coach
In his first Leafs game
Right
So
It happens
And I mean
Would it even be the most
Ridiculous thing we've heard
In the last week
No but
Did Tarion say that to this host?
That I don't know.
I haven't been able to listen to it yet.
And if I did listen to it, it would be in French.
We should maybe, I should maybe get Berkshire on the horn for the online portion.
If you can text, get him to text you the basic premise, because I'm sure he knows.
We are impromptu calling, then we're going to impromptu call Andrew Berkshire.
Okay.
So.
Because he is the one who called me yesterday.
Are we on?
Mm-hmm.
He's the one who called me yesterday to tell me about this.
He just goes, Steve, how are you doing, Steve?
This poor broken man.
So here's what he's doing, for those of you who don't know him.
He used to write about the Montreal Canadiens.
Huge Montreal Canadiens fan.
Oh, my goodness.
Andrew's got to pay his cell phone bills.
Hang on.
Keep going with that story.
Anyway, huge Montreal Canadiens fan.
He's been slowly falling out of love with the team.
And then the P.K. Subban trade happens, and he goes, no!
No more!
I am not a Habs fan
No mas
No mas
And so he calls me up to tell me about the Pacioretty thing
No, no, I just think it's funny
You don't think it's funny, Andrew
I mean, you might
You might in a person losing their mind sort of way
But you don't think it's funny
You're heartbroken by all of this
Oh, here he is
Andrew Berkshire
Here's the man
Hello
Can you hear us, sir?
I can hear you
It is the Steve Dangle Podcast
And we're recording
I did not know you were calling today
No, well that's because I didn't tell you that
Because we just came up with this idea right now
Yeah, right on the air, right now
Well, that's fun
It's great that you're on demand like this though
This is fantastic
Berkshire on demand
I feel like you're the Netflix of hockey
Yeah, you haven't hung up yet
He's the show me of hockey, Adam
Show me, right
Can you tell me
My TV in the background
Oh
What are you watching?
The World Cup, of course
What are you wearing?
Ah, very good
What am I wearing?
Well, you know Adam
I can't go into detail on the radio portion.
Okay, all right, fair enough.
Now, Andrew, here's the thing.
We're talking about this alleged Michelle Tarian, Max Pacioretty comment.
Can you shed some light on this whole story?
Okay, have you already gone into, like, what was said?
Yes.
Okay, so just to give background, the guy who put this on the air, his name is Michelle Villeneuve.
He's not exactly a guy who's known for journalistic standards and that kind of thing.
uh not well respected i would say a lot of people if you ask them off the record in the media scene
will say they do not like this guy
good i'm starting to think this is legit this is legit story for sure yeah but uh he's also
somebody who as far as i've heard he says negative stuff all the time but he won't say anything
unless he has something real.
He just chooses to say some stuff
that he probably isn't allowed to say.
Like, for example,
this stuff with Michel Therrien
was clearly something that's not on the record,
and you're not supposed to share that stuff publicly,
but he did anyway.
So would he have had the conversation
directly with Michel?
No.
What the conversation was that went down
is apparently it was a golf tournament at some point,
And it was like a charity thing where you're at a table and you do a dinner or whatever or a lunch.
And it was a group of eight different people that have told Michel Villeneuve at the table with Michel Therrien that he said this.
Wow.
That's what he said today.
So that's still secondhand, right?
Yes, it is secondhand.
But when you've got eight sources, usually that's like most journalists will go with three, you know.
so it's pretty solid but at the same time a lot of people will say this guy's just making it up
for rating us because that's kind of the nature of uh french sports radio it's very tabloidy okay
but this is not outside of the character of michelle terrien i'll say it that way
there are lots of things that he's said that have kind of slipped into the media that don't really
get talked about
but everyone kind of
knows that they've
been said
like he used to
go around and tell
people pretty much
anybody who would
listen that P.K.
Subban wasn't a
player that you could
win a Stanley Cup
with and he ended
up being right
because P.K.'s
not here anymore
wow
hey you know what
that's a pretty easy
statement to make
because one in 29
chance you're going
to be right
well I mean
you're a really
crappy coach
29-30
and you know
you're not going
to win the
championship
then you could
say I couldn't
win with any of
these guys
wow so let's just go through what we all know andrew yeah suban is already no longer a montreal
canadian uh lord knows how long it is before they run max patch ready out of town well let's go back
one step suban is no longer a montreal canadian and leaks from the montreal canadians organization
blamed max patch ready for that oh there you go so we're right now the domino they blamed max
patch ready for the trade they made yeah and this is like it was this is great year there were leaks
coming from within the organization that you know suban and patch ready have this huge feud and
and you know patch ready this vindictive psycho who's telling everybody that he can't play with
the suban and he needs to get him traded and then you talk to like different players on the team
and they're like none of that happened you know like they just get really mad and like you know
steve's talked to max patch ready i like max patch ready a lot but max patch ready is not an actor
no he has a commercial on the radio here that is probably the worst commercial that's ever run on
they're not normally very good exactly i i've met him twice um and i came to the conclusion
one he's very nice two and i'll word this delicately he's not tremendously complicated
he's a hockey player
you know what I'm saying
yeah
he's nice
I think you say that
about a lot of NHL players
yeah and I'm not saying
that as an insult
no no no
he's just
he's a straight shooter
I get that
and if somebody like that
says something that
sounds like it's
from the heart
I'm gonna say
they're not lying
and he did an interview
with Sportsnet
I think the same day
he talked to him
Steve
that he went into detail
about like his relationship
with Subban
and how much he was
gonna miss him
on the team
and I was like
this guy's not
BSing
You know
Like this isn't
What a lie
Sounds like
No and
We
And we spoke
About this with
Nick Kiprios
And you know
Everything started
Clicking
With regards to
That storyline
Being BS
If things go south
For the Montreal
Canadians
In terms of
The roster
Who's gonna be
The first to face
Criticism
Ain't gonna be
Carey Price
It's gonna be Max
Captain
Supposed to be
The leading goal scorer
Supposed to be
Leading them in scoring
And once he's traded
Carey Price won't re-sign.
And there's number three, Adam.
Just knocking him down.
Well, don't forget that, you know,
Alex Galatini, it's not a real center
and he'll be traded at some point.
Oh, God, I can't wait for him to be a Leaf.
Or as Michelle Tarian thinks of him,
slightly better Lars Eller.
So he'll go for, I don't know,
who's slightly better, Andrew Shaw.
So, Andrew, Steve and I were, you know,
obviously you were on a lot earlier this summer
talking about what happened in Montreal and that sort of thing.
And Steve, when he was reintroducing you to the listeners,
although I'm pretty sure everybody in the podcast knows,
it's the radio listeners that are still probably getting to know you.
I think that's actually our second most listened to show now.
How he described you was almost a former Montreal Canadiens fan.
Is that the case?
I would say so.
Liar!
I've been pretty open about that.
I would say that I don't think I will care this season about wins or losses,
but if everybody was fired, I would still care about the team.
You know what I mean?
Like, if they were to clean the house, I would be able to reinvest still.
Okay.
Like, I'm at that point where I'm not, like, completely tethered.
You know, like, I'm not burning my Canadian jersey or selling it.
No.
I still have my signed Patrick Wall photo on the wall.
I'm not that kind of jolted fan,
but I don't have any emotional investment in them winning.
In fact, I would rather see them lose a lot this season
so that the people in charge would be shown to be as incompetent as they are.
Well, so then here's my follow-up,
and this is for both Steve and for Andrea and Jesse,
everybody in the room.
Okay.
As bad as things have been for the Leafs over the last two, three years, okay?
As bad as?
Is that how as bad?
Is that how?
Is it comparable to what's going on in Montreal right now?
Or is Montreal, in your minds, worse?
I'm going to let you answer this because you compared it to something very funny yesterday.
Did I?
I don't remember what I said.
Um, oh, I think you've noticed what you said.
Well, the way I see it is that the Canadians actually had a real cup window,
and I say had on purpose, not has, had.
And they had, you know, a top two defenseman in the NHL,
a top-end left winger, the best goalie in the world,
and they've just screwed that up.
Whereas Toronto, you know, they had a couple of pieces,
but they were never in a competitive mode.
So that continual suck fest was, you know, depressing,
but it's not like you were missing out on anything.
Right, we weren't expecting to go anywhere anyway.
That's why my...
So the Leafs are who we thought they were.
That's why my video about the Phil Kessel trade to Pittsburgh
is called an era wasted.
Because they were never actually in it.
Nope.
Never not once.
But, Steve, they could have beat Boston, and then...
Oh, and then they beat the Rangers, and then the Penguins, and then...
Oh, shut up.
Andrew?
Yes?
I'm sorry.
It's all right. Don't worry.
We love you, and we appreciate you picking up the phone,
especially for a random 416 number when you're a 514.
It's my pleasure.
And we want to let you get back to watching, I believe it's Finland USA, correct?
It is indeed.
I'm just looking at Elliott Friedman's mug right now.
Oh, and it's a handsome mug.
And actually, it's funny.
We do need to talk about, when we come back on the Steve Dangle podcast,
we're going to go to break.
We need to come back and talk about the other coach calling out Max Pacioretty.
Andrew, if you want to stick around and join us for that,
I'd love to hear your thoughts.
It is the Steve Dangle podcast, and we will be right back.
So we just talked about the Montreal Canadiens coach calling out Max Pacioretty.
Leader.
Randy Cunningworth.
Not Randy Cunningworth.
Oh, am I out of date?
No, just a little bit.
Who is it?
just move the dial forward
just a little bit
who's there now
what's his name
it's not Claude Julien
it's
Randy Cunningworth
Michelle Terrian
yeah I call her
again
yeah
oh that's amazing
crazy right
okay
and then
and then
Max Pacioretty's playing
on another team
I don't know if you're
aware of this
it's team Yusa
and
Asa
team
yeah team
team Asa or Yusa
I don't know how the
actual pronouncing
of the spelling
goes
I believe it's Yusa
their head coach
who I believe
is named after
some pasta
Tortorella
was
was
that's a half Italian
I take that as
racism sir
he was bold enough
to call out
Max Petrae
Tortorella eats
at Baba Bucci's
yeah
you guys are both
both italophobic
it's fear of italics
so
anyway
so
pre two
flippin preseason games
and John Tortorella
Pre-tournament game
Not even pre-season
John Tortorella's calling out Max Pacioretty
One of the only players on Team OUSA
That is ever even going to challenge to score a goal
Now, Andrew Berkshire
Who is a Montreal Canadiens writer
He used to be
And headbanger on the Waller
Now he is an analytics expert
Yeah, that's right
Andrew, what do you think of that particular sentiment?
I thought it was a bit of a soft calling out
considering it's torts but at the same time like when you're going to give a guy seven minutes ice
time and you don't understand what kind of player he is i don't understand the point of calling him
out like if you want max patch ready to play like brandon dubinsky then don't name max patch ready
to your hockey team you know like there's a huge narrative that follows patch already that when
he's not scoring he looks invisible but that's mostly from people who think that if you're not
a goal scorer you have to be like a mucker and he's not you know same with steven stamkos and
phil kessel and oh my god you know like those guys and like stamkos is a bit like patch ready
in that outside of goal scoring his main uh strength is transitioning the puck you know
skating with it but patch ready is a little bit better defensively well actually a lot better but
But, you know, he's also, like,
Pacioretty is, over the last four seasons,
the best penalty-killing winger in the NHL.
And it's not particularly close.
He's, like, incredible at it.
And if he gets the puck on the penalty kill,
he's going to score shorthanded.
You know, like, between him and Brad Marchand,
those are the two guys that you want on the penalty kill on the wing.
They're just crazy.
So not using him on the penalty kill seems insane to me
because Tortorella is too obsessed with shot block.
So he's got guys like Abdelkader out there
who don't really accomplish anything.
But they're hard-nosed, smash-mouthed,
put your hard hat on, lift heavy things, hockey.
Yeah, and this is, like, the kind of thing
that I don't understand about that strategy
is they're like, oh, yeah, we're going to go in
and rough Canada up, and then it's like,
okay, you've got, like, Bufflin and Bacchus,
but then, like, do you really think
you're going to intimidate Canada,
who's got, like, look at the guys on that team.
Like, Shea Weber, Corey Perry, Ryan Getzlaff,
There was a point in I think the second game
Between USA and Canada
Where Abdelkader went to get in Getzlaff's face
And Getzlaff one handed
Just grabbed him by the nose
And threw him to the ice
There's a great one of Brent Burns
Near the end of the game
Just grabbing Abdelkader from behind
And he's just kind of got this
Like when you hold a puppy
And the puppy's trying to wriggle out
And after a couple seconds it realizes
No I'm here to stay
Until he puts me down
when you get Joe Thornton running over
Ryan Kessler
man if you make Joe Thornton mad
he is going to eat you alive
and that's not a guy
and that's not a guy
you think of in that way
but when you
comprise a team
of the most talent
and the most strength
and you tell them to play a certain way
guess what they'll be better
than a guy who plays that way
because he has to
Yeah, exactly
In 2010
Who was the shutdown guy for Canada in 2010?
Was it
Yeah, did they get
Kirk Maltby and Chris Draper to do it again?
No, they got Rick freaking Nash
Yeah, that's right
He played great on the penalty kill there too
It was like when the Leafs were drafting
Guys who
Who were like
Hard-nosed big guys
And they were avoiding, intentionally avoiding
Smaller guys
who had lots of talent because they're like,
well, we have enough of those.
We need to go after these hard-nosed guys.
But the point is, just like in the NHL
where you can trade skill for grit if you need it,
you can't turn grit into skill.
It's like jumping into water.
It's easier to get wet than it is to get dry.
Do you know what that's saying?
Yeah, and it's like,
do you remember when everybody was making fun
of the Boston Bruins?
Killer comparison.
They drafted a guy in the first round.
They were like, if everything works out,
he'll be a third liner.
In the first round.
Yep, yep, we've done that.
Been there.
So here's what, Steve, I want to get your thoughts on it, too,
unless you agree completely with Andrew and add nothing to it.
Yeah, kind of.
What does, guys, what does torts and what does Team USA get out of this?
Like, what do they get out of this?
What could possibly benefit from a pre-tournament tournament,
which is pre-season, to the NHL pre-season?
It's pre-pre. So this is what I was tweeting, is that Tortorella is just a media gift basket. He really is. The gift that keeps on giving. Didn't need to say it. Didn't need to say it. What is to be gained? Like you said.
And then I had a few people messaging me
And I saw a few people tweeting
Kind of sub-tweety
That
A. Pacioretty plays his best hockey
When he is called out
And he's motivated
B. This is just a common Tortorella tactic
And maybe he's a good coach
Because maybe he knows that
Andrew, is there anything to that?
I think there is
Pacioretty has in the past
You know, had great streaks
After, especially media criticism
him and he's known like i've talked to patch ready several times and he's a great guy but i will say
one of his faults is that he is very thin-skinned with what people say about him he doesn't like
being criticized good for him you know that can light a fire under him i guess once in a while
but i think there's a third reason and after two games against canada i think maybe john
tortorella realized that his team is terrible and has no chance of winning this tournament
And he basically created a scapegoat for himself
They won one of those games
They did
Yeah but did they play well?
No
They got like blown apart in terms of scoring chances
And Jonathan Quick had
His one great night that he has every month
LA fans are just
Living with you right now
That is not a popular take
That is very funny
One great night he has every month
There's someone
Whose tweets I always see in my timeline
And for some reason I wasn't following them
Now I am following them
I don't know how to pronounce her name
I think it's Kicker Laika
And she was tweeting
Some quotes from a story today
About Team USA
I would like to read them to you
And I wish I could give credit
But all she did was screen cap the story
So, anyway
It was from Joey McDonald
Oh, you beauty
As in the former goalie?
No, no, no
Uh, from ESPN, I think.
Oh, okay, sure.
I think his Twitter name is ESPN Joey McDonald.
Gotcha.
For this story, I reached out to a few different hockey personnel on both sides of the border.
So, some Canadians, some Americans.
I polled players from other teams in this tournament, and the majority believe Team USA will beat Team Canada.
And this is a quote.
Both teams are talented
Probably the best two teams in the tournament
Said one current NHL player
Who is neither American nor Canadian
But the identity and chemistry
And the role players
I like the U.S. more
This is why you don't ask hockey players
About personnel decisions
One thing we should talk about
Is that Joey McDonald definitely reports
In the Boston area
And you know that he's talking to some guy
Who's like, oh yeah, I'd rather Justin Advocato
Than Tyler Sagan
yo i okay so i'm gonna throw this one at you guys all right here's a drew dowdy quote
so somebody said hey team north america looking pretty strong huh and he's like yeah yeah
absolutely absolutely andrew dowdy by the way looks like the friend of yours that has seen too
many punches right now. I don't know. He's
missing a tooth. He's got a beard.
So he already looks goofy.
And it's in a fun way. I'm not saying this in a mean way.
Everybody chill.
But he said
they might be more skilled than us.
This is what he said about North America. They might be more skilled
than us, but
experience wins over skill.
Which I think
is a more sound argument.
Sound, but still.
The thing is,
I don't think that's true because I don't
think they're more skilled than canada either i think he's just saying stuff because it's fun to
get people riled up okay you know like do we do we also like do we really think that team north
america has more skill than team canada no because they don't on defense in goal you know i think
even if you give them equal skill you know they might have that but what drew down he's saying
does have a little bit of merit and like if you watch those team north america games they're
playing, like, super fun, but
they were also beating up on Team Europe, which
has, like, four good players.
So, like,
they played, like,
high-tempo
exhibition hockey, whereas Team Canada
against the U.S. played, like,
playoff-level hockey, and I do think
that, if all things being equal, even if
Team North America was a bit more
skilled, Canada would just destroy them
because they are more seasoned.
Are there any good teams in this tournament, Andrew?
So far, you said USA?
sucks, North America's awful,
Europe's garbage, is Canada
even good? Canada's
alright. Okay. Sweden's good.
Who's your team?
USA is fine. Who's your team?
Who am I cheering for? Yeah, well, who do you think's
the best team, most likely to win?
Because I know this will bug people. Canada or Sweden,
I think it's a toss-up. It really depends on whether
or not Carey Price is
that first exhibition game, or if he can get
his feet on the rope. Alright. Don't let my
Canada hat fool you. Team North America, all
the way! All the way!
I'd be okay with that just because it would blow up some of the narratives that go on.
If the kids win, all of a sudden you have all these older guys that have to explain how the 23-year-old kids won.
Oh, I'm looking forward to that.
Oh, it's going to be so great.
Looking forward to that.
Well, Andrew, we so appreciate you taking time out of your day and your Elliott Friedman viewing.
Because we know that his face was on screen when we took you away from him.
So we're going to give you back to Elliott.
But your candid analysis of the Montreal Canadiens is probably the most entertaining thing in my world, just in general.
I look forward to the day you go back to them.
You're not divorcing the Montreal Canadiens.
You're just staying at someone's house for a year.
I changed my Facebook status to It's Complicated.
Andrew Berkshire, Andrew, where can we find you?
Twitter, Facebook, website, what do we got?
Twitter, Andrew Berkshire, Twitter, the Twitter name, that's my Twitter name.
Good job.
That's good.
It's great.
Well done.
Keep that up.
Keep that up.
All right, now hang on.
What else we got?
Yeah.
Oh.
Andrew Berkshire Page or Sportsnet, Vice Sports sometimes, and a Bell website.
Never heard of it.
No, not that.
No, I heard Vice.
I heard Sportsnet.
You cut out after that.
Cool, yeah.
Hey, Andrew.
Pleasure talking to you, buddy.
I heard show me a couple times.
Later, man.
Talk to you guys later.
It was so weird.
So he cut out on the broadcast
But we could actually hear him
What he said was to
Update your cable package
That's right
Yes
It was the strangest thing
It was a good opportunity
For him to tell us that
We've had some pretty smart people on the show
We have
We have
Not us
Maybe Jesse
Nope
Okay
Jesse just
The Skip Bayless of our show
Just said he was not smart
I'm offended by that Adam
How dare you
I saw you standing for the national anthem
You're not supposed to stand, Adam
Cops or pigs
Haven't you seen the South Park preview?
Yes, yes
He's not actually saying that
What is the South Park preview?
I can't wait to see that episode
Looks hysterical
And they reboot the national anthem
To put this into context
And they sing this national anthem
Which is basically the American
and Canadian psyche
right now
which is
everybody goes from
I hate the cops
to
I'm calling the cops
because someone just robbed me
and they just gave me
my stuff back
but I hate the cops
and obviously
and this is just
the preview
this is a 30 second preview
and they reboot
the national anthem
and it's hilarious
so that's what
Jesse means
nope
yes
I know what I said
I love that we as a society
decided this one show
just this one show
Not allowed to get into trouble
Yeah
Can't
It's amazing
South Park?
Oh yeah
They get free reign to do whatever they want
Do and say anything
We've had some smart people on the show
You were saying something
Yes
Andrew Berkshire is one of those smart people
We've had Elliot Friedman on
Oh my god
Nick Kiprios
Nick Kiprios
Jeff Merrick
Let's throw Sasky Stewart in there
I would
Christina Rutherford
Yep
Rutherford
She hates the way I say her name
I don't know what I'm saying wrong
Anyway
We've had some really smart people on the show
And one thing that I remember one of them saying, and I wish I remember who it was, for some reason I've narrowed it down to Friedman or Merrick, and it was about a GM who we strongly disagreed with on something.
And it was, this guy has been around for a very long time, and he's a smart hockey guy, and you don't get to where this person is by being dumb.
and i thought about that and i've and and for a long time i was like you know what
i need to be a little bit more mature with my opinions i need to be i need to have more
consideration when there's an opinion i disagree with when there's a move i disagree with
i need to dig deep within myself try to get into this person's shoes and figure out why they did it
Empathy, that's called
Empathy, but understanding as well
And then
God, I just see some of the stuff that happens in this league
And I go, no, no, they're that dumb
Like, why can't they be experienced and stupid?
Yep
I know lots of people who have tons of experience and are stupid
Like, why?
I don't think that argument holds
Actually, I'm listening to this podcast right now
That's called The History of Rome
And literally
What a strange podcast.
Who did they interview for it?
Romans?
I'm not proud.
There are literal emperors.
That was terrible.
Literal emperors that did not know how to, they couldn't hold a sword, they couldn't
do math, they couldn't do anything, but they just became emperor just because they were
born to the right person, or somebody politically did the right thing, or they killed someone
at the right time with some poison.
That is it.
So it really, you could just be good at politicking to get into a position of power.
It doesn't mean you're actually qualified to be there.
You are qualified to be there when you have some track record of success.
Are you saying Jim Benning poisoned Mike Gillis?
I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying.
I'm sorry.
I mean, Donald Trump's running for president.
Come on.
Now, in this, I just see the stuff and I see what people were saying about the Michelle
comments and look if i step outside myself if i step outside the entertainment factor of all this
of course it's unlikely that a head coach of a national hockey league team much less the
montreal canadiens is just waltzing around going to golf tournaments sitting down with people and
talking about how bad his captain is in a historical context he's the worst captain
in our team's history in a long history
And then I think about it
And I go, no, it's not that crazy
It's not, no
Listen, whether this is true or not
It's believable
It's believable
And I saw some people going
Man, the fact
The fact that I'm even sort of believing this
Is an audit on the Montreal Canadiens
Or it's an audit on Michel Therrien
No, I think it's just
It's most teams
How many teams can we say this about?
All of them
Pretty much all of them
Yeah, here's the thing
If I heard the same thing, and let's say Morgan Rielly was the captain of the Leafs
and they'd had a bad season, and I heard that Mike Babcock was going around saying that,
I would probably say, no, that probably didn't happen.
Because Mike's not a talker.
Mike wouldn't do that.
I don't think.
I don't think.
To me, I'd be like, yeah, whatever.
What's that?
He talks when prompted.
Oh, you mean like off the record?
Yeah, I don't think he would say that.
No, I don't think, yeah, Morgan Rielly's our captain.
Like I don't think he's going to leak that
Or that he was a bad captain
Say he was the captain
I just don't see Mike Babcock doing that
Yeah well you know FNF sucked
That's why we traded him
Can you believe the Sens took him? That's awesome
Tortorella and Tarion
TNT Music Factory
TNT Rumor Factory
Are to me the guys
That was a stretch
A bit of a stretch
Steve Tweekoff is hat though so that was serious
That was a tight one
That's what she said.
Wow, man.
Just out for all the offensive.
He's getting ready for South Park.
I just feel like those are the guys I would expect it from.
Everybody else would be like, I don't know if I believe that.
I think it's just your past behavior is your future predictor.
Right?
Or the NHL is a silly place.
Let's not go to Camelot.
It's a silly place.
It is a silly place.
Let's not go to Montreal.
Can I provide a World Cup of Hockey update?
Yes, Jesse, big bomb.
So, Tyler Sagan might miss the entire World Cup after suffering a knee injury,
according to Nick Kiprios.
An official announcement will come as early as Wednesday morning.
Oh, no!
That means they're going to have to unscratch Claude Giroux.
That's right.
So, we got three minutes here.
Can we quickly go through Canada's power play unit here?
And by the way, they had Claude Giroux scratched.
Yes.
That five on five.
Yeah.
So their top line is Crosby, Brad Marchand, and Patrice Bergeron.
Hilarious.
Their second line, Taves, Stamkos, Couture.
Hilarious.
Third line, Tavares, Getz, Laff, Perry.
John Tavares is the other guy on your third line.
And their fourth line, Thornton, Sagan, slash Giroux, Duchesne.
That's literally, let's just throw the rest here.
And now it's going to have to be...
Sorry, continue.
So they're replacing Sagan with Giroux.
So I said something that sounds so stupid when you say it out loud,
but it sort of makes sense, I think, before the show.
I've made a YouTube career off that.
Yeah, which is, Matt Duchesne's lucky to be on this team.
Yeah, totally.
And he's Matt Duchesne
He's amazing
He's lucky to be on the team
They've had a bunch of injuries
You know
You add Jeff Carter to that
You add Tyler Sagan
Back to that
You add Jamie Benn to that
Who else is hurt
Up front
Maybe more
Hey here's something
That would maybe take up some time
How much time do we have left
We have a minute and a half
Ah damn
Okay well let's be real quick then
There's no team North America
They have Latvia and Norway
Does Connor McDavid
Make Team Canada
And if so
Who goes
That's a damn good question
We should look at
Giroux
Crosby
Getzlav
And Thornton
And
Tavares
He makes it
100% he makes it
But
I don't know
It looks like Giroux
It would have to be Giroux
Which veteran
Which veteran on this team
And more importantly
This
Person with a long
Standing relationship
With Hockey Canada
Which we know
They value so much
Which one of them
Do they spurn
For this
It would be Giroux
This kid
Because they spurned him last time
Yeah I guess
It would have to be Giroux
Because they got this kid
Who's played like what
40, 50 NHL games
Who is
Maybe going to win
The Hart Trophy
Like
How about this one
Does Aaron Ekblad
Kick off any one
Of the Canada defensemen
Jay Bomeester
There you go
Yeah but Jay Bomeester
Is replacing Duncan Keith
Like Jay Bomeester
Is an injury replacement
Jay Bomeester
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Jesse
just like
literally took a
two minute break
Jesse said in this
two minute break
something controversial
and wrong
but we love him
because again
he is the first take
of this show
and Jesse
what did you say?
It was about Russia
and their regime
I'm not a fan of communism
and I went off on it
in those two minutes
It was great
He solved all world issues
in two minutes
And we forgot to request
I also said
McDavid wouldn't be on Team Canada at all
Adam said
Wrong
No
I say
Jesse is absolutely right
Get out
He's 19 Adam
Guys
He's 19
He's played like 50 games
Jesse can you look up how many games he's played
He's played 40 games
Like 42 games
Something like that
And he's gonna be on Team Canada
Half an NHL season
So now you take Team Canada
Alright
You take
Okay
The lineup
I think I can almost do it from memory at this point
So you got
Marshawn, Crosby, Bergeron
Uh huh
No, okay, here are the lines
Marshawn, Crosby, Bergeron
Couture, Tave, Stamkos
Tavares, Getzlaff, Perry
Duchesne, Sagan, Thornton
Now wait, wait
Perry is an injury replacement
Couture is an injury replacement
I'll take Couture off that team and put McDavid on the wing
And a harpy
He's not even a better player than Couture at this point.
So you add...
Connor McDavid is a better player than Couture.
Than Lowe.
Yes, he is.
Yes, he is.
Come on, guys.
But how much better?
The amount...
Way better.
He needs to be...
He's a sort of...
He needs to be a certain amount better, Adam.
Adam, I'm not...
This is not the decision I would make.
Let me make that perfectly clear.
You're talking about Hockey Canada, first of all.
This is not the decision I would make.
Okay, so here's Logan Couture with my left hand, all right?
Here's Connor McDavid.
McDavid's up here, all right?
Right, right, right.
He's higher.
Okay.
Longer standing relationship with Hockey Canada.
Boom.
A grown-ass man.
A grown-ass man!
All right, all right, now.
What are we arguing?
Now, hold on, hold on.
Do you remember?
He's a child.
Does anybody remember the 2006 Olympics?
In Torino.
In Torino.
I remember when they sat Eric Stahl.
I remember when they sat
Jason Spezza for most of it
And I remember when they sat Crosby
In fact, I don't think Crosby made the team
I think he was on the taxi squad
He was like the Ed Belfort of forwards
So, when that happened
When that happened, they had guys like
Iserman
Sakic
Lemieux
Lemieux
Gretzky
Big
Not Gretzky
Big names
Big, big names
Those three that we just mentioned
Lemieux, Sakic, Iserman
Big names
And at the time
They said
Well we're going with experience
We're going with experience
Steve Eisenman was playing on .2
Of a knee
Sackick was slowing down
And old
And slow and old
Man that's what they were saying about Joe Thornton at the time
Yeah really
That was 10 years ago
And Lemieux was still Mario
But he wasn't 2002 comeback Mario
He was 4 plus years
Now
Now, that team lost, and they lost bad at the sport that we're supposed to be the best in the world at, right?
Okay, so what happened?
What happened to the management group that went with those guys over the guys like Crosby when they knew how good Sidney Crosby was?
What happened to them?
I guess they went bye-bye, Adam.
They all went bye-bye.
They cleaned house.
assistant coaches, general managers
Wayne Gretzky said, you know what guys
I don't even want to do it anymore
because he's Wayne Gretzky and they let him off easy
I'm going to go coach the Coyotes
for oh never mind, screw this
yeah, I'm telling you
if Connor McDavid was not
on that team and they didn't win
you don't want to, you as a manager
have to be smarter than that
you do not want to know what that looks like
so you put him on the taxi squad, fine
maybe he sees some pre-games
But he doesn't actually play in the tournament
If that makes you feel better
But Connor McDavid is on Team Canada
Bar none
Bar none
None of that was the same as taking Duchesne
Off of the roster and putting in McDavid
I said Couture
Did Duchesne make the team
Outright or is he a replacement
I'm not sure
He's an amazing player
You see that roster, you leave Sagan in there
You assume he's not hurt
Find a spot for Jeff Carter
Find a spot for Jamie Benn
Who's Corey Perry replacing?
Oh he's replacing Jeff Carter
Yes
And Logan Couture replaced Jamie Benn
I think
That makes sense
I think so
Let's confirm that
Let us confirm that
Alright so here's
I'm just saying man
This might be the only podcast that's ever happened
Where I come out on top
Where Twitter lights the two of you suckers up
And I love you both
But I don't think you're right on this one
Jesse found the original
So it's Ben, Bergeron, Carter, Crosby
Duchesne did make the original roster
Getzlaff, Giroux, Marchand
Sagan, Stamkos, Tavares
Thornton, Taves
I'd take Carter off that roster
And I'd take
Is Couture on that roster, the original?
I would take Carter off that roster
1000% and I love Jeff Carter
Instead of Duchesne
And you'd put a 19-year-old child.
Absolutely.
You don't need Jeff Carter.
Adam's just completely ignoring the politics of all this,
which is my entire argument.
But it's Connor McDavid.
He is the future.
You've got to put him on.
Not over these people who have been to the Olympics,
who've done these tournaments,
who've been in Spangler Cups.
You're not going to kick them off with McDavid.
Yeah, they wore a Zeppelin sticker.
Goddamn.
When it comes to Hockey Canada,
Connor McDavid being the captain of Team North America
is the best thing
that could happen to them.
Best, comrade.
Best.
Because they don't have to have
this stupid conversation.
Yeah.
Or put him on the taxi squad
or fourth line.
You guys.
No matter what,
even if they put him on the team,
they wouldn't be playing him enough.
You know that to be true.
I agree with that.
That guy would be playing
fourth fucking night, Adam.
How much Conor McDavid
is on Team Canada
is my argument.
I didn't say how much
ice time he'd get.
Conor McDavid's on Team Canada.
Is PK on the team?
No.
Should he be?
No, yes, he freaking should be.
Politics.
Connor McDavid wouldn't make the team.
And then it's politics plus, holy shit, Team Canada's really good.
Like, everyone's like, PK, PK, PK.
Dude, Crystal Tang didn't make Team Canada.
They don't really need Subban.
No.
They don't.
It's funny, they don't really need any of the players they have with the exception of Crosby.
Because they can kind of cycle him out for a bunch of other guys.
No offense.
I think not making Team Canada is not as outrageous as, I would say, Phil Kessel not making Team USA.
Yeah, that's absolutely stupid.
Because they have, like, Brent Burns.
Who are the right-handed D?
Drew Doughty.
Brent Burns, Drew Doughty.
Keith.
Alex Petrangelo.
No, Keith is the left.
Keith is the left, yeah.
Seabrook, no.
Weber.
Oh, yeah, Weber's on the team, so there's four guys.
Seabrook's not on the team.
Letang's not on the team.
God, that just sticks in my craw that freaking Weber's on that team and no Subban.
That just kills me.
And I'm not even a Habs fan.
Politics!
He's been around for fucking ever!
And he scored 20 goals last year.
We can't really ignore that.
No, he's a great defenseman.
But, oh.
All right.
This is what I'm saying, Adam.
Guys, guys.
I love you.
You're not considering that they're human.
Yeah, but also, okay.
But think about it like this, then.
From a marketing and politics, from a marketing perspective, which does play into the politics,
okay?
So, we take the optics out of what happens when you lose and Connor McDavid is not on
the team.
Take those optics out.
Then factor in that you are basically, basically putting your stamp on this one kid being the face of Hockey Canada for the next 10 to 15 years.
Okay?
So you're going to tell me that the first World Cup in 12 years, you're not going to involve the future?
I'm sorry, guys.
He is one.
Because he'll never forget that snub.
And when you need him more
He's going to show up
But it's not going to be the same
He'll never forget that
You don't want that
You don't want to start the relationship off on that foot
But it's not a snub
It is a snub
It's a thousand percent a snub
If they don't name him to the team
He's better than players on that team
He should be on that team
Is he good enough
Ignoring all politics
Is he good enough skill wise
To be on that team
Then it's a snub
Then it's politics right
If it's politics
It's not a snub
In context
If it's politics
It's a snub
The context makes it a snub
No the context
Makes it
Hey you should realize
You haven't earned this
No but this isn't
A tiebreaker
Like he's not
As good as
No he's not
As good as an older guy
He's better than
The older guy
Yeah so you're
Actively going out of your way
To pick a player
Less good
That's my point
How many of these guys
Is McDavid better than
You can make an argument
He's Canada's second best forward
No
You can make the argument
I think that's a
I think that's a pretty small
Window to make that decision
No
Even I think that's a
I just said it off the top of my head
I was like
Sidney Crosby
And no one else
First round's a bum
Am I gonna say
That I could've got OJ off the case
Am I gonna say this
Okay
You have
The helmet does not fit
One game to win
One game
You have to assemble a team
And if your team wins, you get to live.
Do you take Brad Marchand or Connor McDavid?
Connor McDavid.
No!
In a one-on-one, do you take Brad Marchand or Connor McDavid?
Do you take Joe Thornton or Connor McDavid?
Do you take Jeff Carter or Connor McDavid?
Jeff Carter.
Do you take Logan Couture or Connor McDavid?
Every day of the week, Logan Couture.
Corey Perry or Connor McDavid?
That's not a question.
Connor McDavid.
Conor McDavid's the fifth center on my team.
Then he makes it.
Because Giroux's the fifth center on the team.
Sure.
Okay, fine.
Holy shit!
Holy shit!
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
Okay.
We all agree.
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
We all agree.
Anderson's gone.
It was like, Conor McDavid is the fifth center on Team Canada.
When I was 16.
When I was 16.
Canada has 13 centers, man!
When I was 16,
my host league hockey team,
John's Carpet Sales,
got into the finals
and we won in overtime.
And it was comparable
to the feeling I just had
right now.
By the way...
I'm glad that you guys agree
that McDavid's a little better
than Giroux.
I can say that.
I can say that.
And no one else on the team.
Agreed.
Oh, wait.
Did Giroux make the original roster?
Yes.
I can't wait for the tweets to come in
I'm pretty sure you did
Oh Jesse
Oh
You had that pizza almost entirely to yourself
Are you going to be able to fit in that humble pie
No
Logan Couture didn't
I know that
I still said Logan Couture is better than Connor McGinnis
Connor McGinnis got bumped off my teeth
There's Skip
We found him
We found Skip
He was bumped off my teeth
I'm sorry
Jesse would you prefer Skip or Stephen A
Which one do you want to be
That's like Jesse Blake, please
Alright, Jesse Blake
Mr. Jesse Blake
I'm sorry, but if Couture's on my team
What's your middle name?
What's the initial of your middle name?
Jesse J. Blake
I like that
Feeling sexy and free
The good is raining on me
Hey guys, did you know Conor McDavid's gonna be a bust?
Yes
Didn't you mean Austin Matthews?
I'm sorry, I do mean Austin Matthews, yes
But Conor McDavid, clearly a bust too
Oh, well, I was just, before we get into that, you know, I'm just glad we really, I'm glad we got this out of our systems.
Oh, I'm exhausted.
Let's not have any more intense arguments so that Adam can bring up this topic.
Like, let's not say something stupid like, would Johnny Gaudreau make the team if there was no Team Canada?
We shouldn't say that.
We shouldn't bring that up.
You know?
If you mean there's no Team North America.
Sorry, yeah, if there's no Team North America, would Johnny Gaudreau make the team?
We shouldn't have that argument.
You think Johnny Goudreau is better than those wingers?
Matt Duchesne shouldn't be on this team if Johnny Goudreau was available.
One of them is a winger.
So you take him position-wise?
You take him position-wise over...
Because the thing is, setters can play wing traditionally, right?
Traditionally, but Goudreau...
Where did Goudreau finish in NHL scoring last year?
Was he in top 5?
He was top 15, at least.
It was great.
I don't think Duchesne was.
And they're not, and I actually have a list here of all the unrestricted, sorry, not restricted, sorry, excuse me, restricted free agents, that's what I was looking for, that we're going to get to, that are still left.
You would not believe the names on this list that NHL teams have not re-signed yet.
Seven.
He was seventh in NHL scoring!
Wow.
You know what, though?
Martin St. Louis won the scoring title and then was named off of the Sochi team.
Yeah, well, that was ridiculous.
Oh, my God.
Someone had to get hurt for him to be on their team.
You know what, based on that, I can see that.
I think that's a value
Yeah
Absolutely
No room for McDavid
Yet
Oh no
Not over McDavid
No
Also McDavid's 6'4
And grit chart
He is?
Isn't he?
I don't think so
I heard he was 6'4
He's tall
He's not that tall
Oh okay
He's like 6'1 too
Oh okay fine
Oh wow
I'm so off
Um
So
So he's
Yeah
Two inches?
A 6'1 dude
And a 6'4 dude
Guys
Guys
Couple inches here
There
Why do you think I'm engaged?
Come on.
Lies.
Just all lies.
Now, Austin Matthews, not ready for the NHL.
Obviously.
And here's the proof, guys.
Here's the proof.
This is a tweet from a man named Mark Dumont, who works at a silly channel in Montreal,
which is a silly place.
I happen to like Mark very much.
We had a sandwich together one time.
So, Mark said, Austin Matthews grabbed his own hockey bag and started to walk off after practice.
The equipment manager had to remind him that people are paid to do that for him now.
Aw, he's just so perfect and awesome!
Oh, that's so cute.
Isn't that cute?
Isn't it?
Oh, God!
Clearly meaning he's a bust, right?
He's not ready for the NHL.
A story like that makes me feel like one day he will be worthy of wearing the number 34
in a Leafs uniform.
Unisform.
It's a word now.
Well, what was he wearing at camp?
63?
63.
He's definitely worthy of that.
Who's not worthy of 63?
I'd give him $25 million before I'd give Bolin $25 million.
That's for sure.
So, I had a Leaf prospect on my Facebook, like my personal Facebook.
And I once saw a picture of another Leaf prospect.
Hold on, did you add him or did he add you?
I don't remember.
It was years ago.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Look, being honest, I probably added him.
Okay.
But he commented on it.
That's not the point.
You know how sometimes you see someone comment on something and it pops up in your feed even
though you're not friends with that person?
This person was wearing, I don't know, let's say 56.
But he posted the picture like, hey, here's me in a Leaf uniform.
The comment was, 56?
Oh, I bet you're going to make the team out of camp.
Camp numbers, man.
They're ugly for a reason
They're ugly for a reason
But god
When he plays his first NHL game
People are going to want a Matthews jersey
And they're going to want to know what friggin number to have on it
Better be 34
It better be 34
I sure hope it is
So 34 can finally be elevated to the level of excellence
Where it should have always been
You know how many Leaf fans want to buy
You're right
Shut up
Don't make fun of me
Don't make fun of James
You do have a Reimer jersey, right?
No
You don't?
No
What kind of fan are you?
He has lots of dangle jerseys
I bet he does, yeah
He's got a couch made of a dangle jersey
It's a chair
How long you play for the Leafs, Steve?
My whole life
Now that's a jersey foul
You know, James Reimer?
How is that a jersey foul?
It's a jersey foul for you personally
I have a James Reimer
That'd be like me not having a Doug Gilmore jersey
I have a James Reimer hockey figure that I paid $60 for.
Don't you tell me I don't have a James Reimer jersey.
Did you pay for that at the height of the James Reimer market?
It's a rare jersey.
No, it's a rare figure they only made a certain number of.
Don't laugh at me!
And my feelings!
You paid $60 for a jersey.
I'm sure everybody's going to want that.
I paid for it!
With all the money I saved and all the free shit I've got at them!
The fruits of my free shit getting labor!
Why did you pay so much?
Eat it!
Why did you pay so much?
Because I love him!
And now he's gone!
Jesse, you know, when the day comes...
You think I don't know that?
When the market on James Reimer...
Rare figurines.
I don't love this.
Your vote's coming in, Steve.
So, when you resell that in 15 years,
and you make back your $60,
I think it's going to be good.
I can't wait to get your wedding invite out
and just respond, go fuck yourself.
I can't wait.
I can't wait.
Do you own any other expensive
figurines?
I have a Darby Hendrickson
rare figurine.
Jim Carver's better than Darby Hendrickson!
Darby Hendrickson
did not just sign a five year contract
with the Florida Panthers!
How much did your Matt Stajan
figurine cost? I don't have a Matt Stajan
figure. He is still playing, by
the way. He's had a hell of a career.
Don't you sell me the name of
Matt Stachin. Is that $45?
No.
I'd pay more than that. I got this wicked
Dimitri Christich card.
By the way...
Did you get a Matt Finn one?
Oh, good one, good one.
He never even played in the
NHL, Jesse. Steve,
do you want to tell
the class about your latest purchase?
You didn't tell the class about your latest purchase
You can do it in the ultimate warrior voice if you want
My latest purchase
Your doll
It's not a fucking doll
It's a figure
It's a doll
You didn't buy your latest one
I thought your mother picked that one up
Oh the card
The Phil Kessel card
She got me a Phil Kessel card
That's nice
Acceptable
I bought a Josh Donaldson figure
And I also bought a Team North America
Aaron Ekblad figure
From Toys R Us
Which was
Which I wasn't that embarrassed to do
Until they asked me
If I wanted a gift receipt
Which I did not need
Because I was not giving this to a child
I was giving it to myself
These two figures combined by the way
Were less than $60
I was going to say how much did you pay for your not rare
Aaron Eckblad. They were $20 each.
Why Aaron Eckblad?
Because I...
You know my weird thing that I do
where I have a picture with someone and then I put the figure
underneath them? I have a picture with Aaron Eckblad.
Okay, okay. Hold on. Hold on.
So Jesse. Jesse.
Fuck you. Fuck you both.
Steve paid for a
rare...
Steve just threw his hat at me.
A rare James Reimer figurine.
But the not rare,
only gonna wear this jersey once
Aaron Eckblad
probably going to
the Hall of Fame
I know that's a bit early
that's not how
rarity works Adam
they only made
a certain amount
of the fucking things
what about that
do you get
go ahead
and try to go buy
a James Reimer figure
oh are they
hard to find
yeah that's why
it's so expensive
I think the point
I think there's a lot
of people looking for them
I think that's the point
is desirability
I think James Reimer's
mother probably
yeah
aunt, uncle
and Steve Dangle
either Dave
either Fess Chuck
You guys are bullies
You could not go much lower than that by the way
That's a hell of a name to call someone
I have a Vesa Toskala figure
That I bought for $4
Don't you tell me
No no no calling me Vestchuk
I said that's a hell of a name to call someone
Right
The Vesa Toskala at $4 I'd be like
Yeah it's a pretty square deal
I'd buy that and then give it to Steve
If I didn't have that figure
I would buy it again today
I would.
The James Reimer one?
Yes.
Okay, what's the max you would pay for that?
$1,000.
I don't think I've seen Jesse laugh like this in a long time.
That is the definition of fuck you money.
I would buy it for $1,000 just to say fuck you to the both of you.
How dare you?
How dare you?
It's James.
It's my James.
It's Jim.
It's my Jim Jimmy.
And by the way, April Reimer, if you're listening
And we know you have from time to time
She has turned this off long ago
Because I've just been swearing for at least 10 minutes now
I'm sure she's heard all those words before
Let me just say that none of this is an indictment on James Reimer
The person or the player he was for the Leafs
He should have always been the starter
But
I don't even know if James Reimer would pay $60 for his own figure, man
No, he wouldn't
Because he would give that to starving kids or some charity
because he was an amazing human being.
Wow, so they could eat it.
That's good.
I'm sure he'd give that to a starving child.
Here, here's...
The kids are going to eat money.
Or a figure.
Whatever you were saying.
Would he give them a framed picture of himself too?
Be like, here, look, I know you're starving.
He's not Adam West.
He doesn't have pictures of himself in his trunk
that he signs for $20.
He's a magic angel robot from Winnipeg.
And if they weren't in the Atlantic Division,
I would be cheering for the Florida Panthers
to win a Stanley Cup.
Just to show you what's what
Just to show you what's what
I can't wait until James Rivers is Stanley Cup champion
I can't fucking wait
He was close with the Sharks
If they had him and that instead of Jones
They would have won
I know that's not true
But I said it
Fuck
Okay if you keep moving around the mic like that
People are going to show off the show
People are still listening
That was very
You know we haven't had a good one of those
Like I think all summer
We've always had people on we've been very well behaved
Yeah because you guys were pretending to be my friends
All summer
Okay so we have a couple more things to get to
Bullshit I don't want to do them
Before the end of the show here
So here's the first thing you need to know
Is that Fifty Shades of Coal
Will be making a comeback
Oh dear
Now I was going to do it today
I was going to spring it on you
Because E.L. James, the author of Fifty Shades of Grey
Released
Because she's doing this
Get ready for this
She's releasing because she's got
A hundred shades of grey
So much new material
There's four books in the Fifty Shades of Grey series
But the series is done
It's already been released
It's like Harry Potter of BDSM
What could she release now guys?
Yes it is
Have you heard the plot?
No it's terrible
What could E.L. James be releasing now though
that now that the story's already been told.
What do you guys think? Any guesses? Any guesses in the room?
A $60... No, actually.
Give me a real guess. Real guess.
What is she releasing? Yeah.
How would it tie into this story?
Oh, God. Is it...
Is it an object?
Is it an object?
Steve. Jesse, go ahead.
That's not Steve. That's the other one.
It's an object? It's not an object. No, no, no.
She's releasing another book. What's the book about?
Oh, she's releasing another book. Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm in a blind rage, alright.
It's about...
A coloring book.
It's not a coloring book.
It's a novel.
It's a novel.
That's actually a good guess.
No, what's the theme of the novel?
What's the story?
What's the plot?
I'm going to go with aggressive banging.
Okay, but...
Okay.
All right, aggressive banging.
Steve's correct.
Yes, Jesse, what do you got for me?
Like, what's the idea?
What's the continuation of a story that's already completed?
What was all the other ones about?
It's animals this time.
Oh, no.
No.
The actual answer is
She's now
Fifty Shades of Ney
Oh my god
Wow
Fifty Shades of Ney
Awful
Why is this person still writing books?
She is writing it
How much animal bang did you see at the Toronto Zoo?
So much animal bang
None
Oh my god I was driving up between Calgary and Edmonton
Once and we saw these two horses
Getting it on in the middle of the winter on the side of the highway
Yeah, Calgary to Edmonton
It's a boring ride, but man, wow
That was hilarious
They made the most of it
It was hilarious
I'll never forget that horse appendage
And you know what one I'm talking about
Swinging in the air, trying to properly connect
I've told this story before
An elephant took a dump
Into its own pee
Five minutes into a half hour Zoomobile tour
I didn't have to talk for the rest of the tour
People were killing themselves laughing
They were doubled over crying laughing
I couldn't hear myself on the speaker
Over them laughing
That's funny
Over 20 minutes I didn't have to say a friggin word
No 50 Shades Darker is what it'll be called
And
It will be
Because the original novel was from Anastasia's
Perspective she's the female protagonist
This one will be from Christian's perspective
So she's going to retell
The story from the other guy
The whole thing
So he's going to have his own four books
I don't know if he's going to have four
Maybe just this one
I don't know
But it's a
That's weird
So
Gentlemen
Fifty Shades of Coal
Will eventually
Make a comeback
And it will be more
From Bob Cole's perspective
You could argue
Because it's a male perspective
This time
A little bit different
Has this woman
Written anything else
In her life?
Do you know how this all started?
No
This was
You know what fan fiction is?
Yeah
Wait really?
You know what fan fiction is?
It was fan fiction?
Fan fiction for what series?
Guess
It was online fan fiction
Bingo
Twilight
It was Twilight
Fan fiction
Why is school so expensive?
Isn't that bananas?
This is crazy
She's a gazillionaire
What the fuck are you all spending 25 grand plus for an education for?
You should be on Reddit right now
I don't know what you're doing here
Isn't that nuts?
Twilight fan fiction
Is she like 19?
Why are you on Tumblr so much?
I'm becoming a millionaire
No she's not
Actually she's a
I believe she's a
Middle aged woman
And she had
Some
She based some of it on
If I can remember correctly
She did have
A bit of an affair
Herself with a man
And it's funny
Because they actually
Showed a picture of the guy
And he's like
Nothing like she describes
Christian Grey
He's like just a normal
Looking dude
Like but
And he's not rich
It's Danny DeVito
Yeah but she was like
Sorry
She's like I like the BDS
It's Danny DeVito
She's like I like
All the BDSM stuff
But I'm gonna make you
Supermodel
And a billionaire
And now we have a story
Anyway it's a
It's gonna be fun when that comes back
Now the next thing
We have a bit of a
Oh boy
Can't wait
Russell Martin
That's great guys but you know several days from now
When people listen to this they'll know that Russell Martin
Had a home run Tuesday night
He walked up to the plate
His large wood protruding out of his hands
And he swings
Sorry
I was trying to do a dirty
Bob Colt baseball thing
Look
You work on your material
You figure it out
And then eventually
It comes out mediocre
I have a really good debate for us
But I'm going to save it
For the next podcast
Because it's so good
But we've already had
A good debate
James Reimer
Best or bestest
Here's our question
Alright
So Jesse has
What
Invested in some
Incredible tickets
Oh
Let's talk about
No but I have a better one
For next time
There's a tease
I have an amazing hockey debate
That will, I believe, engulf the show
I have a great debate next time
The best debate you've ever seen
People will love it
You're going to love it
I like that
People are going to love it
Sorry, I was doing this
I was doing the wide kind of
You'll see this on the YouTube
The Donald Trump hands
Yeah, no, he does this thing
Your hands have to be much smaller
Yes
Yeah, he's a fish
He's a
So Jesse
Yes
You bought tickets in April, right?
Yeah, even before that
Before the season started, March-ish, as soon as the tickets for the Jays came out.
Now, this applies to all sports fans, because it's a matter of, do you make a profit, or do you go to the game?
So, I have tickets to the Blue Jays' second-last home game of the year.
They're playing the New York Yankees, who are currently battling them for a playoff spot.
It happens the—it's also Toque Day.
The game is already sold out.
Oh, so you get a free toque.
And I'll get a free toque if I go.
There are 100-level seats.
I paid a decent price for them.
I paid face value.
But if you go on StubHub, one ticket in that section is already at $109.
And I definitely didn't pay $109 for one ticket.
How much less than $109 did you pay?
I think face value is around $70, $60-ish.
All right, if you sell these tickets today, you're making $50 or $60.
about. Yeah. Now, the Jays are
currently two games behind the Red Sox.
And if they win tonight, which
I'm not going to dangle jinx them. They're too close.
They're too close.
Tampa's not having a great year, so hopefully
they do. They should win tonight. They need to win tonight.
The division race and the wildcard
race will come down to
the last few days of the season. Right. And the Yankees
currently are only three games behind the Jays
in the wildcard. Two back of Baltimore
for the second spot in the wildcard. There you go.
So, this is very, very
interesting because the Yankees
and Jays could be battling it out
if not for each other's playoff position
then someone else's. So it's going to be
anytime New York comes to town
they bring New Yorkers. And it's
so much fun in the Rogers Center.
And there's just a lot of Yankees fans in Toronto.
There are. The Jays were so bad for so long
that there are a ton of Red Sox
fans. That's why they used to call it Fenway North.
I don't know if they still do. And Yankees fans.
One other wrinkle into this $109
price. That is US dollars.
Oh. Ooh.
So that's add another 30% on the price we just talked about, which I'm not even going to attempt.
No.
Now, Jesse, your conundrum is what?
I would like to go to the game.
You want to go to the game?
Because it's going to be a great game.
But you could sell these tickets, right?
For $143 Canadian.
And let's say it goes up by 50 bucks a ticket at least, right?
You think it's going to go up another 50 bucks a ticket?
I'm sure.
another one. Especially if it's a tight race.
Let's assume it's a tight race.
You could take that money and you could buy
playoff tickets. I could.
What does Jesse
do?
See, now wait.
Okay. So he's made
a what? Let's assume $70
investment. Yes.
He gets
$150 for the ticket.
Is that per ticket? Yeah. Oh, so you bought two.
Yeah, I have a pair of tickets.
You have a pair of tickets, so you're making
So you'd be able to sell them for $143 right now, Canadian.
Yeah.
That's right now.
Let's wrap it up.
They're going for $109 on Step Up.
So $100, so yeah.
Because I'm too stupid.
So $143 Canadian.
So you're basically doubling your price back on both tickets.
Yeah.
Now wait though.
Jay's playoff tickets last year, like in the nosebleeds, were $250 or $300.
I paid $600 and something for two tickets in the $100s.
For a pair.
For a pair.
In the $100s.
And the 100s.
Yeah, they were good tickets.
I just figured if I was going to go, I was going to go.
I still was spending like $200 on top of my ticket.
This is what I'm saying.
Even if I make $150 on these ones, I still got to spend another $200.
If you sold them today, you'd make $100.
Yeah.
Almost $100 on each ticket, right?
Like $700.
No, $100 something bucks.
I've already stopped paying attention to the numbers.
No, no, no.
Pay attention.
So if they're $200
Or if they're $150 American a ticket
In the next one
Then you are basically setting yourself up
For 200 level seats
In the outfield
That's all dependent on
If I get those tickets
Do I risk going online at
10am to try and get
Jay's playoff tickets
But if you don't get them
Yes you won't have the experience but you will have some money
But you could spend on
The least playoff run
Okay, fine
In 2019
Raptors
Playoff run
Yeah
Or
I get to see the Jays
Right before the playoffs
You know what
See, I would sell
I think I'd sell these tickets
Yeah
I think I'd sell these tickets
But I'd wait
Until
Things really built up
You gotta make your decision
On the Thursday, right?
Yeah
And it's like, okay
It's gonna be
People are like
Oh my god, New York's
Coming to Toronto
I can't miss this series
One game back
Boom, sell
But if they
This is Toronto
People don't plan things
more than 48 hours ahead of them.
Yeah, but if they go on an extreme winning streak
and it's not even a contest,
then you might want to just go to the game.
Okay.
You spent $140 for the pair?
Yeah, I was around that, yeah.
It's pretty damn good.
You might want to go to the game.
If it's a tight race, though.
It'll basically be a playoff game.
And it's going to be a tight race.
The Jays and or everyone around them
would either have to go on a crazy winning
or losing streak in order for it to not be tight.
And there's so many teams
bunched up that even if one falls
off, it's still a tight race between
four other teams. I'd sell the tickets.
I'd sell the tickets on the Thursday.
It's also
Toque Day.
Oh, damn. You're getting freaked out.
That jacks the price up even more.
How much money do you think he could make?
Well, if you're saying
it's $143
Canadian
Right now, per ticket
For one ticket
So that's twice
So let's just round it up, say $300 for two tickets
So I'm making $150
$160
For two tickets, Steve, he paid $140
To sell one ticket
He'll get $143
Right now
Right now
So what you're saying is Jesse
He could get $100
And a brand new
James Reimer figurine
For the tickets he already has in his hands
And maybe an Aaron Eckblad
Maybe
He could get Aaron Eckblad, James Reimer and have $80
Man, the market for James Reimer
Rare gear is going to be huge
Especially when he retires
Hey, remember the backup goalie
The time that the Pittsburgh
Remember when Florida was good and they made the conference finals
A couple times? That backup goalie
I wonder if there's any merch out there for him
No, no
You know what?
I'm going for the Panthers
I'm going for the Panthers
we'll see if I
alright now
I want people's answers
on this too
I think this is very important
by the way
I'm very excited
to hear the tweets
as we go through
our debate
and people just tweeting us
like midway through
which debate
which one of eight debates
yeah we've had many debates
many many debates
the last thing is
Steve today
can you explain
to the audience
who is not watching
the video
which is
in the thousands
what you're wearing
I got a Super Mario shirt
I think I got it from Blue Notes
I paid for it
Navy blue shorts
I got
Some Nike shoes
I bought these in Ottawa
What are you wearing
And this is rare for someone with craniums the size of ours
What are you wearing on your cranium
Glasses
I'm using them to watch the Jays game
It's the color red
It's the color red
Oh this whole thing
I got a
Team Canada hat.
My second
favorite team at the World Cup of Hockey behind
North America. And I got it
for free when I went to a Team Canada
practice last week in Ottawa.
What else Team Canada have you gotten for free thus far?
A golf shirt that's way
too big. But I'm not
going to exchange it because I gave it to
Drew Doughty to wear
for an interview that we did. Did he sign it?
No. Why didn't you?
Because I'm not going to get it because
you don't do that when you interview a person.
No
No
You should have got Drew Dowdy to sign your golf shirt
And then give it back to you
After he wore it
I don't know, it's a cool story
It would have been cool if you had something to show people
He paid $60 for James Ryan
The next day I wore it
Doll, by the way, doll
Here, you know what? I'll piss off the podcast listeners
Here we go
I got a hat signed
Not this one
Oh, that one? Oh, what are you showing us?
I got this exact hat signed
So you have a second Team Canada hat
Had one
What'd you do with it?
I got it signed in order to have it as a giveaway on this podcast
Oh
But
You lost it
One of the contest winners
So a few people who listened to the podcast
Showed up at the Real Sports in Ottawa
Oh that's cool
To hang out with myself and all the contest winners
Amazing
Who got to go to the practice
One of the contest winners left their bag with everything in it
Their golf shirt, their sweater, their hat, and most importantly, their VIP pass to the practice the next day.
One of the guys who wasn't a contest winner who showed up, one of the podcast listeners, had the bag.
And he's like, oh, well, I can't take this.
Here, Steve.
And he alerted me to the lost bag.
So I decided as a reward for his nobility, I gave him the signed WWE hat.
Wow, that was noble.
Bailey, I think was his name.
Bailey?
Bailey.
Bailey.
Okay.
Bailey.
Dude, wow.
That's great.
That's huge.
Round of applause for Bailey.
Now, so you have the jersey, the golf shirt.
What else do you get?
You get a sweater, right?
Yes.
Right.
So that's the Team Canada Freak stuff that you've accumulated thus far.
That's the list.
Yes.
Any other World Cup stuff that you've accumulated?
Not yet.
Okay.
But more coming.
I think so.
Okay.
So I would just like to show you just something kind of cool here
because I have entered
free shit territory
and got myself
a brand new Team Canada jersey.
And it's official merch,
by the way.
It's not some knockoff bullshit.
It's the real deal.
It smells real. It looks real. I'm going to put it on.
It's by Adidas.
Steve, don't you have a cool hoodie?
I do have a cool hoodie.
I'm putting on my jersey.
It's a very cool jersey
to the team that North America
is going to beat
in the gold medal game.
I'm now cheering for Team Canada
even though I went
with some of Europe.
You're wrong.
Obviously.
Now,
I got this at Breakfast Television
and they let me do
some of the sports stuff there
because it's my other job.
They let me do
some of the sports stuff there
because they know
how much I love hockey
which is amazing.
So they gave me this jersey
and I was like,
oh, that's awesome.
And then I thought,
well,
I'm on a podcast of guys
and, you know,
I've just entered
the free zone territory
the free stuffs territory and I thought
but there's a member who maybe
hasn't. And so
at that point I said, is there an extra
one?
Jesse Blake. What?
Oh my god!
Oh thank you!
What a, what a, what a
Jesse's rubbing the jersey on
Steve. What? That's a very nice
double XL jersey you got there
tall man.
Actually, it's a medium.
Yeah.
It'll fit him.
Oh, you finally get him free shit
and it doesn't fit, imagine.
Yeah, it'll fit him.
He's putting it on like it's draft day.
Oh, wow, it's a perfect fit.
Oh, you skinny fucks.
Wow.
Look at how handsome he looks.
Now, I have been holding onto that jersey.
Free shit.
Free shit.
I figured,
and that's not a slide against you, Steve.
I just figured it would be nice
if the entire podcast
was able to do free shit together
so we are
free shit harmony
right here
this is the nicest thing
that's ever happened to me
this made my life
you just wait
until next show
when I give you
my James Reimer figure
and I throw it
in the garbage
no shit
I would never give you
that figure
and I mail it to Guam
so people can
I can show them
for a hundred dollars
Because it has accumulated fucking worth and value over the years, now it's worth probably like $65.
Shhh, shut up and do Guam.
Fuck Adam, fuck Jesse, fuck Guam, fuck all of you.
Fuck your jerseys.
Fuck your jersey and your jersey, especially your jersey.
Now Steve, I figured you were going to compile something along the lines...
Oh shit, is Berkshire calling us back?
Don't throw your free hat at me
Free hat
Free hat
Mr. Hat
So anyway, I just wanted that to happen
I have been holding that jersey, by the way
For a month
We first got these a month ago and I've been waiting and waiting
Because we had Kipper on and I forgot last week
So I finally got the chance
Would you buy those jerseys in London?
Oh, because I didn't
It's a callback
Hey, I've been back to London and I still haven't gotten you shit
You're not getting your shit from London
Just so you know, people can stop asking
They still do ask from time to time
They should ask all the time
I deserve free shit
From London? Maybe a third time's a charm
It better be
Alright, so now that we have all been free shitted
Shall we do the press conference?
Holy fuck, we're still doing the show?
The Presser SDP
I think we've done something along those lines before,
but people are always asking.
Can you punch Adam in the face?
Okay, yes, for you.
Visiting Toronto.
Okay, fine.
What should I do besides the Hockey Hall of Fame?
We've had this question before,
and you know, the thing that sucks about Toronto
is there isn't a lot of shit to do
that you don't have to pay for.
What I would recommend, though...
Wow.
No, no, but in New York, it's like,
oh, you can go see this, or you can go walk that,
and Toronto's like,
well, what do you got in the aquarium?
The aquarium's so expensive.
It is really expensive.
That's what I mean.
To go up the CN Tower, it's like $30,
which is like $10 American.
Well, and then they shaft me
when they asked me on Twitter by going,
other than the Hockeyola food.
I'm like, well, now I can't say the Hockeyola food.
Now, okay, so I always try to think,
what does Toronto have that other cities do not?
Well, other cities have an aquarium.
Other cities have this, have that, have that.
So we've narrowed it down to the CN Tower and the Hockey Hall of Fame.
I would recommend this.
Or a Chase game or a Leafs game or a Raptors game.
Yeah, because the thing is, a lot of people, when they go on vacation,
who brings their workout gear with them?
But there are actually some pretty cool obstacle courses, and we went to one.
Oh, Pursuit?
Yeah, which was really fun.
I went, I played trampoline.
How many cities have those?
I don't know, trampoline dodgeball
The thing is, are there things to see
There are a lot of amazing restaurants
If you want to spend the money
To get the food and the drinks
And whatever
We're doing a terrible job selling the city
But truly
You have to spend money to enjoy Toronto
Yes
But you know what, any major cities like that now
Panago Pizza in Whitby
London, Ottawa
Yeah but that's too far
Lauren Jarvis
Lauren Jarvis
Yeah I already said that
When you were listening
I'm sorry
There's one in Libvidge
There's one in Libvidge
There's at least one in Libvidge
There's only one
That's at least
The Waterfront's beautiful
When it's not frigid
$60 James Ryder
Fuck you
I would definitely go to
Real Sports
Just cause it's fun
Yeah
If you're from out of town
You should see
What a two story
TV inside looks like
Monstrosity
Craziness
Yeah it's great
guys we gotta do
better than this
come on
Young Dundas Square
is cool to see
if you get to go
to the Jack Astor's
on the
you're not coming
from out of town
to go to a Jack Astor's
you always take a walk
through the
etc
yeah
yeah
the other thing is
the Jack's has
the one thing the Jack's has
is the patio
I wouldn't go to Jack's
but I go to the patio
because that patio
that overlooks
Young Dundas is sick
I haven't been there
in a few years
need to go
My thing, like I said, is the cool restaurants.
Go to the rooftop of the Thompson Hotel.
Our food scene.
And you'll see, you'll have some great views.
Yes.
That sort of thing.
Rocks.
Our food scene rocks.
We need to do that.
We need to go there.
I met Ron McClain there on Sunday.
Oh, you fucker.
Yeah, you went to the Hell in Canada party.
How does that not come up yet?
Yeah, Jesse met Ron McClain.
Inside the park home run.
Let's go.
Sorry.
Anyway, Jesse, you met Ron McClain.
Ron McClain name-dropped Shawn Mendes on Sunday.
Does he know him?
No.
but he listens to them
so I thought that was interesting
before we get to
we should have had Ron on the show
on the
on the Adam Wilde show
that would have been cool
by the way speaking of which
we should probably mention
that the Adam Wilde show
is now the Adam Wilde show
instead of Blake and Wilde
yeah Blake and Wilde
Blake unfortunately
left the show
but in a good
punched Adam in the face
when she left
we fought
we fought so much
no no no
it was
honestly it was
she got engaged
and there's some
some developments in her life
so in case anybody wants to know
There's really no drama there, I'm sorry
Sometimes people just move on from their workplace
And that's what happens, so that's what happened
That was sad
No, before we get to Ron McLean
Oh, are we not going to do that?
We already talked about it
I was going to ask why Shawn Mendes can't pronounce anything
Correct me
It's almost like he rolls his R's
No, Adam
Potty, he says potty
What am I doing to your finger right now?
You're touching my finger
I'm wetting your finger?
You're poking my finger
No, no, no, you had it right the first time
Touching my finger
Yeah, but you're saying it funny
I'm tai-ching your finger
That's what he does
What is it?
What is that?
That song, every time it comes on the radio
I want to kick out the windshield
Which is Treat You Better?
Yes
But I've tried not to learn the name
And now I know it, thanks
I know I can treat you better
I would like you
Fucking, how many syllables is that?
It's not teach
It's teach
And then that biggie doesn't really pronounce the end of it
so much much we're from the same place sean what the fuck
what is it what is it
it's like he's trying to it's like he's halfway through no no no we're gonna get youtube yeah
well i just cut this out the video if you really want ah no no no no no no because then itunes
you know this is bx no itunes is okay like oh it's like it's like you're talking over it and
If you're doing a little clip of it, it's fine.
Oh, yeah, because no one's heard this fucking song.
Yeah.
No, it's the thing.
It's an algorithm that notices it.
It's not a people.
But YouTube's too good with it.
Yeah.
It's too good.
I mean, the story of how YouTube started small and became this big thing is very titching.
Titching.
Sorry, sorry.
Am I saying that too much?
Am I saying that too much?
You know that every time someone hears a Shawn Mendes song on the radio from now on.
Who is ruined?
Shawn Mendes.
People are never going to be able to forget this
Good, I hope I ruined his career
By saying that
He's the nicest guy
By the way, did I tell you this?
I can't wait for his remix of Cascada's song
Every Time We Taich
Every Time We Taich
This failing
You are from Pickering
The fuck
Anyway
the first time
remember his first
his first song
which was
life
life of the party
what is it
life
I don't even know
how to say it
but he would say
it's not even life
he would say life properly
but life of the party
life of the party
party
like it
other
not life of the
anyway
the first time he said
he heard that song
on the radio
he was sitting
in our studio
it was at
Kiss 92.5
on my radio show
my little radio show
that's so Taiching
that is exactly
the family guy bit
where Stewie's pronouncing
cool whip.
Cool whip.
Cool whip.
Am I saying something wrong?
That's so true though, man.
Wow.
You've hit on something.
Every,
I hope I ruined that song.
I hope this gets
20,000 listens
and all 20,000 of you
spread it to all your friends.
And I fucked that up
for all of you.
And there's one less piece
of CanCon
you have to play, Adam Wilde.
Is our new goal
to take down Shawn Mendes?
Are we trying to
ruin his career?
SDP versus Shawn Mendes?
Yeah, yeah, fuck it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
New direction.
Next question.
What was the last question?
Something to do in Toronto.
How do...
Oh, hey, so there's some stuff and some things.
Make Mark Shawn Mendes.
Out of Matthews, Nylander, and Marner,
which one's going to be the biggest fan favorite?
I mean, Matthews projects to be the best,
so I would assume the best one.
I'm going to go with Nylander.
I was about to say that.
You think?
Have you seen his Instagram?
He's so dreamy.
I didn't say who's going to be the cutest.
No.
Now, wait, though.
Wait, though.
He's so charismatic, too.
Yeah, it's done.
Knowing Canada, you're going to pick the Swede?
You're going to pick the American?
Okay, hold up.
Marner's Canadian.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I love that none of us has mentioned Marner.
Also, Matthew's on Team North America, so he's like half Canadian now.
Can I please have the floor for just a second here?
No.
Toronto Blue Jays made the playoffs for the first time last year in how many years?
23?
Since 1993.
There you go.
So it's been a while.
Yes.
22 years.
Who was the most popular player on the team?
Josh Donaldson.
I thought it was Joey Bates.
It's Mini-Muri Kawasaki.
The worst player on the team.
How is Shawn Mendes saying Munanori Kawasaki?
Probably the way I just did.
Monday night, Kawasaki.
It was Kawasaki.
Kawasaki had been the most popular player on that team for like two years.
And he was the worst player on the team.
I don't think it matters how good the player is popularity-wise.
Listen, I think we've seen some players in Leafs' past
that have maybe not been the most skilled be very popular players.
A man named Ty.
Well, I think we are going through the wrong three names then.
Because who's going to be the Leafs' Mooney?
It's not going to be one of those three.
Who's going to be the Leafs' Ty Domi?
Which I'm cool with.
We need it.
We've wanted it to be Uncle Leo.
So we've narrowed it down to who will have the most entertaining Instagram.
Nylander is going to win.
Nylander, fine.
Nylander.
Young DiCaprio.
By the way, did you see him?
Did you see Brooks Light's post yesterday?
Yeah.
So Kapanen and Nylander went over to Brooks Light's house to watch his fiancée, Julianne Hough,
and her brother, Derek Hough, compete at Dancing with the Stars.
So all three of them were just watching Dancing with the Stars.
Just a very cool post
And they're both like
Kapanen and Nylander
Look very happy about it
Oh there it is
I could do anything
Look at how good looking
That man is
That's not fair
Brooks Lyke too
God he's handsome
That's who I thought
You were talking about
Brooks Lyke is just
Watching his wife dance
With his kids in the room
Yeah
Doesn't it look like
He's watching Nylander
Yeah
And his older brother
Kasperi
How come Kasperi
Looks so much older
Kasperi's one of those guys
That he'll meet
He'll reach an age
and he'll just stop aging.
You think?
Because he's like Steve Martin.
Steve Martin's been the same age for 20 years.
But when Steve Martin was younger, he looked older.
Now he just looks Steve Martin.
It's like, you ever seen that meme of Lindsay Lohan?
And it shows how she's aged during the years
and over her there's the caption cocaine.
But then they have James Earl...
No, not James Earl Jones.
Who is...
Who is friggin' John Luke Picard?
Patrick Stewart?
Patrick Stewart, yeah.
Yeah.
And they have him 20 years ago and him now
And the caption over him
Is Earl Grey Tea
It's true
Holy smokes
I almost forgot his name
Come on
He's wearing
Okay so Jesse's got a picture up now
Where this is where
Nylander
Is wearing
If you were drunk
You would think that was Miley Cyrus
It's a Michael Jordan shirt
You're right
Ripped jeans
He's got the Harry's
He's got the Bulls shirt
And a fuzzy jacket
A hairy jacket
It's a jacket that could use a shave
I would love that jacket
It's a nice jacket
See you could pull that off
Jesse could pull that off
I saw a jacket in
I was at the Bay
On Saturday
How much is it?
It cost $800.
I almost bought it.
Whoa.
Because it was furry, but I didn't buy it because I don't have $800.
Was it real fur?
It was real fur.
Oh, damn.
We are going to have some people angry at us.
Are you saying that?
That's okay.
I didn't buy it because I couldn't afford it.
You entertained it, sir.
But I would have.
You animal cruelist.
If I have learned anything from hockey over the last few months,
Nylander's Instagram is proof that he's going to be a Nashville Predator
within the next two years.
Oh my goodness, look at those abs.
Is that his girlfriend?
No, probably not.
Congrats, sis.
That would be his sister.
Who can also probably
friggin' squat like 500, 600 pounds.
Doing a quick count here,
he has eight total abs.
Wow.
He's got the full eight.
I've never seen one of my abs.
In my life, I've never seen one of my abs.
I've had the top two before.
Have you?
Yeah, just the top two.
Oh, I've never even gotten there.
Yeah, it's hard.
It's hard.
I'm trying to get him back.
Me too.
Me too, man.
So I guess we
creepily came up
with our answer.
Nylander.
Nylander.
Nylander.
Now the hockey
the hockey player
the hockey fans
the hockey hockey fans
will be like
Austin Matthews
all the way.
And I think
I will be too.
No, I think
they'll be Mitch Marner.
Really?
Good old Canadian kid.
Oh.
You mean like
the right wing conservative
Rob Ford was good
for Toronto people?
Joe from Burlington
Will be on
Yeah
Mitch Marner all day
The new age hockey fan
The new age like stats fan
Is going to be an
Austin Matthews fan
And then the fan fan
People who just enjoy
The sport
And
Don't get too serious
About it
Who actually have fun
Nylander
We just made a great pie chart
No
We sure did
Here's how
Coach's Corner
Is going to go
Matthews scores
A thrilling
Overtime winner
And freaks out
Cherry
Talks about
The brilliant
Canadian coach
Mike Babcock and the effect he has had
On this young American player
William Nylander scores an overtime winner
Don Cherry talks about
The Canadian winger
Or centerman or defenseman
Who starts the play for Nylander
Mitch Marner scores the overtime winner
Ah he just talks about Mitch Marner
He just talks about
Mitchie Marmon the London Knights
Oh they keep the hunters
They keep turning them out
Anyway here are my thoughts
On Colin Kaepernick
No!
Done, what the fuck?
Jesse, go ahead.
Adam, Steve, and Jesse.
It's from Dart Hacking.
I think this guy might be a bud.
This guy sounds like...
A bod.
That was a good one.
Steve.
Yes.
It's a Steve Nagle podcast.
Just wanted you to jump back in here.
Fair enough.
Did Joey Batts get on base?
I think he did.
Yeah, he was.
Nice.
What is the biggest land mammal
You could take in a fight
That's a great question
Okay anything
Anything with hooves you're fucked
Oh anything with antlers
You're not beating a deer
And you think you could
Look up deer attacking hunters
Oh my god
It sucks
I'm gonna go with one of the worst things you could be killed by
Because that shit's not happening fast
They have knives on their face
Here's the thing.
I don't even think that I could take most dogs.
I think you could beat up a pit bull.
Even like a 90-pound pit bull.
A pit bull?
Like a 90-pound pit bull, I think you could take it.
Oh, it would be a fight to the guy.
No, a 90-pound pit bull?
No way.
Adam Wilde versus a pit bull.
I'm losing that.
I'm betting on Adam.
I will tell you that I am not running into battle against a pit bull.
I will place a bet.
I'll guarantee you I will win the fight.
I can climb shit.
It can't.
That is how I will win the fight.
I will just metapod Harden up there.
Battle to the death.
Are there ways to climb?
Jesus.
No.
Here's a question.
Why would you ever want to do this?
So it's ancient Rome, and we're Christians, and we're being thrown in with wild animals.
What animals can we take?
Do we have tools?
People still fight bulls these days, you know, in Spain.
Yeah, and lose.
Yeah.
Also, that's fucked up.
But, um, very fucked up.
That is hilarious.
You know what's messed up about mammals is, like, there's kind of a pretty big jump.
Like, after, like, dog is kind of the biggest of, like, the little tier.
And then you, like, jump to deer pretty much, right?
Steve, you worked at the zoo.
I didn't just stare at the animals and go, fuck you, I can take you.
You know what?
I have seen monkeys up close in a monkey enclosure.
We couldn't even take them.
Those things are terrifying
By the way, Jesse's crying
Jesse's actually been crying
Oh, fuck
They stranded three
Base is loaded
Edwin, the guy you want up
Jesse is actually crying
Like a hyena
If it's not a huge one
You might luck into a win
But I'm gonna go with 90% of the time you're dying
A hyena
Is the same as a pit bull, man
they're pretty vicious
yeah
I don't know man
it's
listen
unless I got something
like a
if it's hand to hand
I'm toast
maybe a bunny
I whoop a bunny
I just punt that thing
you just threaten
how big of a bunny
how big of a bunny
there's a pretty big
ass bunny out there
my answer is
fuck your question
yeah
hey I have a question
dart hacking
I have a question
I have another question
Steve
can you explain
to everybody
what happened
at the
you're going to a
world cup of hockey event
Friday morning.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, this upcoming?
Yeah.
Yeah, Steve.
Aren't you?
Potentially.
On the invite.
There was an invite.
Oh.
So I'm going to the fan village.
Yeah.
Which is in the distillery district.
Nice part of Toronto.
Hey, you know what?
Person visiting Toronto, you should visit the distillery district.
You should.
It's my hood.
You should check it out.
Yeah, there's a lot of movies get filmed there.
I remember the beginning scene where Magneto bends the fence.
um in i think x-men 2 that was filmed in the distillery district
um i got an invite to an event to play bubble hockey oh that's cool yeah big event big bubble
hockey uh and then i got an email after i said i was interested in going uh asking hey
invite your friend jesse too
Now if you're wondering what I left out of that email
Nothing
They just asked for Jesse
They probably meant Adam
Yeah but they don't know that
So I didn't say anything
And just said sure and invited Jesse
And he wasn't supposed to tell you
But then he did
And now you know I'm just
Were you gonna just cut me out
And then see how I reacted
Yes that is absolutely what I was going to do
Well it's funny because I got invited
To host something at that same village
That night
And I'm going to do it
How do you out free invite
Free shit the guy who's on TV
Radio and internet every two seconds
The male Jackie Redmond
I can't get rid of you
That's who I also saw
On the weekend
Who else did you invite on the podcast
Jesse you invited Tim and Sid
You invited Jackie Redmond
Ron McLean
You didn't invite Ron McLean.
He's not going to come on.
He probably said yes anyway, though, because he's Canadian.
He's big enough that he could be like, I'm not coming on your shitty show.
You know that.
That's the thing that is funny about Canadians.
Americans would be like, no, I don't want to be on your podcast.
Canadians would be like, yes, but they'll never show up.
All right.
I will come on your podcast if I am impressed with any five-second segment that I choose at random.
Okay, I'll give you one more shot.
Okay, one more time.
What's the largest mammal you could take in a fight?
It's true.
So anyway, so I says to Jesse, I says, why don't you come with me?
And I didn't know unbeknownst to Steve that we were going to this event.
I'm like, you can you need we need to do somebody to do social for Kiss 92.5.
So we can so I can do this event because it's a Rogers event and I'm introducing people and I can't say who because it's not been announced yet.
And I get to leave work early, which is cool.
So Jesse, you simultaneously
Got invited by Steve to one thing
And me to another
And told neither that neither wasn't invited
Exactly
Jesse is an evil freaking genius
That's my point
That's all I want to say
I'm going to be there all day
Yeah
And I'm just going to hang out
And you guys won't even know that I saw both of you
You're going to get bombed at the distillery
You know, I have to say
I'm really sad that this show is over
Because that was so much fun
That was so, so much fun
And yet, I feel like it's about time.
Before we started, I said we should have went four hours just to make up for everything.
Next week.
We almost made it.
Ladies and gentlemen, a couple of announcements.
We have a big announcement coming with regards to what we're doing to kick off the season.
We've never really done anything to kick off the season special.
Is er thing confirmed?
Not yet.
That's why I'm not announcing it yet.
I was like, what?
So next Tuesday, we're going to announce something that we think you're going to like a lot.
A lot, a lot.
Brooks like it.
I would Brooks like it.
I would Brooks.
You will Brooks like it very much.
I'm going to pee myself.
And if you pee yourself, you'll be wet to the touch.
So we got that.
We got that big announcement.
Plus next week.
What are those things that girls have?
They're not quite a wallet.
They're not quite a purse.
They're a clutch.
A clutch.
A clutch.
So next week, ladies and gentlemen, a clutch, we are going to two episodes a week again.
Jesse, why don't you clap?
Clap.
All right.
Two episodes a week officially starts next week because of the World Cup of Hockey.
We don't normally do it this early, but we're doing it this early.
Canadians are Canadian.
Americans are American.
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