The Steve Dangle Podcast - Three Bites | December 3, 2021

Episode Date: December 3, 2021

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Adam is back! (00:00), the Toronto Maple Leafs are VERY good (03:00), the Montreal Canadiens lose multiple players to injury (19:00), the Vancouver Canucks... are still bad (28:00), what's wrong with the Philadelphia Flyers? (33:00), the Nashville Predators' awful Stadium Series jerseys (54:00). and who in history would you bite? (1:01:00). Originally aired: December 3, 2021 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/gl3EX-IhHBY Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. We've joined The Athletic and you can too! Hit the link to subscribe: https://theathletic.com/sdp Visit this episode's sponsors: https://www.betterhelp.com/sdp audacy.com/thedailytip/podcasts/betmgm-tonight-live-58256 Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 is this weird for you yeah yeah who the hell is this senor adam wild who is this sorry hi it's been a heck of a week it's you missed it's okay you didn't miss any stories i missed the biggest week in hockey, man. You missed Marc Bergevin. And Patrick Waugh embarrassing himself. Man, I You know what? You missed the peak. You always missed the big Hobbs stories. I know. You missed the Subban trade.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I was in London. That's unbelievable. Getting engaged. Worthwhile trip. Oh, come on. I was just kidding. And then you missed Bergevin's divorce from the Montreal Canadiens. I certainly did. And you did talk about the fact that Jeff
Starting point is 00:00:55 Gordon is the GM of the montreal canadians no matter who they hire well yes you did mention it did okay cool about that so what else did you guys talk about we talked about how much we missed you no you didn't you definitely didn't talk we definitely did yeah no we did we okay so off the top of the show i was like we should address the fact that you haven't been on for the last two shows and you're like do people care true story yesterday woman at the post office cindy hi cindy asked where you were really she did it was actually a really sweet meeting because i haven't seen her since before covid wow and she sees me and she does a double take because of the mask and she goes is that
Starting point is 00:01:40 leo's dad no i love that she was up to date on everything she was just i go have i seen you since leo was born no you haven't and then charlie died and oh what a hurricane of emotions and uh what else did she say she was asking all the pertinent questions but there was a line behind me so we didn't get to bond that much but i am gonna go see cindy again that's pretty cool i'm very happy i got to see cindy very nice very very nice very nice i uh i i gave ashwa a bit of a shout out this morning on the morning you should have but why um we were talking about something to do with traffic or whatever and i said like shout out to anybody that has to get to get off at ritson road because that's a fucking dangerous exit and uh oh it's it's awful it's one of the
Starting point is 00:02:23 worst exits i've ever seen on the 401 and then a bunch of people from australia were like thank you everybody always ignores this they're like simcoe's worse though and i i maybe it goes worse and brock and whitby is even worse it's even worse it's terrible so they had to fix that if you imagine it only took two years though imagine a major highway and there's one single lane to get off and a light literally right there like a red light right off it so you've got cars full stop on the highway while people are going 100 kilometers an hour 100 100 100 stop yeah it's and there's like three exits and two of them are death traps it's great so i've i've had time to think guys i had a lot of time to think go deep into tiktok talk about you know getting obsessed
Starting point is 00:03:05 with uh staten island streeters coney island coney oh it's coney island coney island my bad my bad it's okay you got p davidson on the mind but like whomst among us doesn't i have not a good mood nine female wives check instagram i love that that is the most underrated one i know why is no one making make more of that but but i've had time to think and get obsessed with some things and i got a little obsessed with the leaf and it appears i was in fact wrong oh yeah this is a good team they're uh not bad really put it together i what blew me away though and i and i think it was scott wheeler that tweeted this he's like mitch marner is having his least productive season since his rookie year and they're doing this well and he's had some really good plays yeah that's
Starting point is 00:03:47 not an insult to mitch marner by the way he's got 21 and 24 i'm not the the least productive thing is only because of his slow start yeah like if you cut it off hey take away the first two weeks of the season it's probably not that he's probably scoring at 100 right yeah so i don't i don't look at it that way no 100 but but in in if you were to take all 24 games and put them together technically speaking that's what it is and you would think well you know you think about it like a team when a team does really really well like uh the penguins or the oilers or whatever it's their star players going ballistic right it always is uh with toronto yes mitch martyrs for sure gone ballistic lately and as has austin matthews three goals in six games you know three goals to start
Starting point is 00:04:27 off the no stash era not bad not bad but man it's it seems to be a lot more by committee oh they're just good they're just kind of good they've gotten fortunate you know i mean let's let's call it what it is jonas johansson was not good at all for the colorado avalanche but he's also like their third goalie people forget and had like an hour to prepare for the game by the sounds of it because they didn't know darcy kemper wouldn't be ready to go to the point where their fourth goalie, Justus Ananen, wasn't in the building. So they had a U of T guy there again as the potential
Starting point is 00:05:05 backup for the Avalanche. And I hate that that is front page news now. Every time. Because it has to be. It has to be front page news. Because of David Ayers. Because of David Ayers. Because the friggin' guy might win. Did you get a few tweets about it? Adam. Did I get a
Starting point is 00:05:21 few tweets about it? Yeah. Oh my god. Was part of you hoping that maybe it would happen? No. No. No. No. no no because there's no winning as the team who has to play against that goalie because either you shell just a regular civilian or you lose right and uh i don't know i think you know i'm gonna go out on a limb and say losing's worse right okay it was cool to see him leave the ice last and uh did you see at the pregame skate he stayed on the ice just until everybody left
Starting point is 00:05:56 and he cherished it was really cool did you see the e-bug in um in uh st louis no it was someone who actually worked for the blues i can't remember who it was but he was taking warm up with no helmet no way was the 86 and he's like this is how i played back in the day skating around no bucky just hair flowing in the wind and i'm like you're gonna have to put that on eventually sir like um it's the nhl they shoot hard kind of interesting that lucas raymond obviously is having a killer year in Detroit, which I don't think he's getting enough credit for that. No one's mentioning
Starting point is 00:06:31 Lucas Raymond. The Red Wings in general are not getting enough credit. But Michael Bunting is now second in league scoring for rookies. I mean, he's not a rookie, but like... He is a rookie. He's never played 25 games. You're right. He's not going
Starting point is 00:06:47 to get... He's a rookie like Panarin was a rookie when he was 24 and he started in the NHL. Here's the thing. he is a far more ridiculous rookie than panarin who probably shouldn't have even been a rookie that was panarin's first nhl season that's that's the rookie his first nhl this is like third or something like that but he's been pieces right it's bits and pieces yeah but that's like raycroft who also shouldn't have won rookie of the year raycroft won rookie of the year in his like fourth nhl season that's ridiculous michael bunting played 21 games last year and five the year before why is
Starting point is 00:07:22 25 games is the threshold he we went through this on a previous episode but justin bourne laid out bunting misses all these rookie cutoffs by like one game or like a less than a week in terms of age he's 26 years old i know he's not a rookie well that's an adult man he's a rookie an adult man but he's technically an adult man rookie has been very and also baby for some reason uh nhl.com and specifically the leafs have not changed his background photo yes and i hate it and it's still coyotes pisses me off and it's the bad coyotes logo it's not even the kachina it is the bad coyotes logo it's so many people have been talking about matthews to the coyotes over the last week that this graphic went up with matthews and four different coyotes jerseys and i was like
Starting point is 00:08:11 this is less a shot at leaf fans and more a condemnation of how bad the coyotes jerseys used to be they were bad they were bad well they they had a great jersey and then they moved off it yeah hey this is great let's fuck it up said every nhl team on the face of the earth ever except for the canadians except for the canadians they've always done it right let's not fuck it up except one time we're gonna have like a weird barbershop jersey with a leaf in the middle that was history yeah 100 and even habs fans were like listen we're big on history and fuck this jersey i wanted to get your opinions guys um and this is not me doing a victory lap because i don't cheer for this to happen but frank ceravalli of daily faceoff has justin hall listed as the most
Starting point is 00:08:55 likely leafs trade candidate this season so we're gonna have a moan anyway even though all the things that you mentioned we're gonna have a moan i'm not moaning you were having a moan about justin hall in his bad season no and the fact that he's not named jared mccann no i i actually wasn't going to do that oh what do you i wasn't because the team's winning i mean they're fine yeah but i think i think um i do think every time i bring up justin hall people get mad at me for bringing up justin hall because they think it pertains to that because i had strong opinions on that right now it's in the past you have justin hall my question is because they've got Mikheyev coming back.
Starting point is 00:09:37 They've got some cap issues they've got to sort out. Somebody's got to go. Is it Clifford going back down and into the playoffs where Justin Hall did do well last year? Do you want to lose that guy now?
Starting point is 00:09:50 Really? 25 games in? I don't think it makes much sense to even have him. Also, with the Leafs cap situation, I've stopped trying to figure it out. It's too difficult. Because it always just works out somehow.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Yeah. i listen they have a really smart guy in charge who literally made the rules the very stupid silly rules peter morazic is on the marlies right now because of the rules the very stupid silly rules so like i've stopped giving a shit i've stopped caring about it and i wait for the insiders to be like the leafs are cap strapped and then i go oh no they are but then you know myrtle tweets something like actually they have a million dollars in space and i'm like oh see everything's fine i told you and then somebody gets injured around like i don't know mid-january and we're like oh that frees up four million dollars because they're on ir and it's just free money
Starting point is 00:10:45 like it's weird that a peter marazic who was like a very big free agent signing gets injured and a small piece of the management team goes yes more players y'all let's get kyle clifford for free what like i don't understand any of gonna happen and apparently for the leafs injuries they're great yes i assume clifford goes down because why wouldn't he yeah because you can right he's also he's kyle clifford like you don't you don't need that don't you no no because why why do you need that doesn't he add value you know what would make this first place team better kyle clifford no why how come in the year of our lord 2021 this isn't 2014 why why are we doing this i don't understand i did have a thought i'm sure you had several oh man i had
Starting point is 00:11:43 okay sorry i did have 40 000 thoughts at the same time that i need drugs for um but let's let's talk about so i did want to talk about another marginal leaf who joey anderson no nick richie no oh man keep going through the marginal leafs we'll see if we get there um uh oh man don't say wayne simmons no that's not a marginal leaf i don't think get out of here i know people are saying he's a marginal leaf and i was like the leafs nation this morning had him at well maybe you get rid of him i'm like no angval no ang vegas who actually scored by the way yeah he because he was playing really hard in in a game that his team was winning 7-2. Man, I love
Starting point is 00:12:26 when he gets in on the action. What's better than putting your fourth line on the ice? It's more mean to put the fourth line on the ice because they're still going to try. Right. You should put Matthews out there to just have a skate. He had a hat trick. He didn't care anymore. Yeah, keep his cardio up.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Out there playing keep away, you know, like it's a shinny game and he's like, I already got my free. To be fair, too, I think i think colorado like other you know their goalie wasn't great but i don't think at beyond the first period they played all that well colorado yeah no no but that's a schedule game that the leaf should lose and in past seasons a team that doesn't have this skill loses that game because you come off the road trip you come back home they don't get into toronto i believe um until
Starting point is 00:13:10 24 hours before game time wasn't a ton of time yeah so then you go there and that's that's like okay colorado's coming in they're a very good team we should probably drop to their uh ahl goalie and the leafs to their credit they stomped them it was great well no it should have been kemper yeah it was scheduled kemper start and he hasn't been doing that great but like i assume he would have done better than that yeah i'm like yeah what are you gonna do they left matthews alone in front i don't feel bad for them you you wouldn't mean not audrey kasha would you talk it's not marginal i didn't think he was either okay who are you talking about this is why this player is gone adam hasn't you've said at least six or seven names and you haven't
Starting point is 00:13:51 gotten to kiril simyonov yet and he's gone he is gone yes he is gone he was on unconditional waivers to i thought you were talking about current leaps he is not he is not so we're talking about who's leaving well he's one of them and i saw a great tweet i think it was kemi it's like yeah i think you see the writing on the wall when they get kyle clifford and put him in the lineup over you and that was basically it but i i did have a thought with mckay of coming back soon is this going to eventually like hurt them signing free agents they went out and they got miko letnan and then buried him and they did find him a trade partner but it didn't work here and they get alexander barabanov and to a lesser extent they buried him and it didn't work out here and they
Starting point is 00:14:39 did find a trade partner but it didn't work out here and they get ilya mikhayev and it did work here but he doesn't like it here and he asked for a trade away from why he's also been injured and had trouble finding spot been injured a couple times well he's not going to have an easier time finding a spot they're in first freaking place and then carol simonov you can add to the list who is also ilya mikhayev's friend and i just feel like the khl well is going to run dry and as i even say that as those words come out of my mouth i realize i don't care well i i yeah i was gonna say like adam what benefit we're gonna have such a hard time finding a 13th forward where are we gonna get igor ozhiganov part two oh add him to the list the list of guys
Starting point is 00:15:24 who want to sign with the toronto maple leafs for above market value is a long list there will always be free agents who want to play for the leafs yeah yeah yeah be like and here's the thing about nhl players or hockey players are for the leaf athletes would be like yeah well he didn't make it but i will yeah yeah yeah you know it could work for us yeah yeah it's like what player what teams do with like a player that's been shifted around it's like you know what he just doesn't have it well you think he doesn't have it but me galaxy brain says he does the former first round pick who hasn't worked out in 80 different markets the next team he's gonna work here hey we're doing that with with right now i mean it's not 80 different markets but josh
Starting point is 00:16:01 Cho Sang's a rehab project that seems to be working out pretty damn well. Alex Galchenyuk. Alex Galchenyuk. Yeah. I'm so disappointed. He worked out for a little. Flat out. He did.
Starting point is 00:16:11 To me, he blew that. He did. He blew it. He blew it. That's exactly it. He had, the Leafs offered him a million dollars this summer, and he said, no, I'd rather go back to Arizona. Who reported that?
Starting point is 00:16:22 Was it CJ? I don't know. Somebody, I don't even know. Somebody reported that it was a million dollar offer, and he wanted to go back to Arizona because that's where he's got a house. and it's like dude you just found your legs again i don't think that's what i i think what happened well okay that might be what happened and maybe money's not that important but what i think happened is because remember a million dollars is still less than what he was making
Starting point is 00:16:47 last year okay and he probably went what i did good for you i'm not taking a haircut after all that no well maybe you should have well and he signed he signed a pto with arizona exactly and then i think and then i think he signed he hasn't played since november 29 which wasn't that long half the coyotes don't have name plates like yeah they're not and he's he's averaging like his ice time's going down i'm looking at it right now 13 minutes you know november 20th to 10 minutes versus winnipeg november 29th like what does he think you're not playing with tavaris and nylander what's the matter with you it's it's i don't know if if it's because he wanted to go to where he has his roots perfectly fine i understand maybe he thought he would have a
Starting point is 00:17:38 better shot at playing higher up in the lineup but even so with whom with who right but who are you taking out of this lineup for gal chanyuk because i'm very happy with what we got right now oh 100 at the beginning of the season uh they probably i don't know do they sign richie yes i think so i think nick richie i think nick richie's not here though if if galch is here and playing the way he played last year is that fair yeah or do they sign bunt yeah they probably still sign they definitely sign but yeah yeah that's a tough one you know okay this is the great thing about the leafs right now though do you see how i'm trying to find things to complain about and i can't right well i i did want to throw this out there too and people are unfairly doing this but
Starting point is 00:18:19 michael bunting has more points i believe than zach hyman yep noted bad player noted non-hat trick haver zach hyman did you see that yeah i did the penguins defenseman got in the way and he couldn't get his empty net hat trick from mcdavid no no but he also he had his hat trick goal called back for offside oh yes i think it was a noted sportsnet employee alissa turner um basically saying imagine throwing your 35 hat on the ice only for the goal to be called so mad so mad poor guy yeah he's having a good time oh meanwhile i on the way here i was listening to the latest episode of the chris johnston show and he was talking about zach hyman having a really good shot at making team canada getting the chris kunitz role i don't hate that i don't hate great
Starting point is 00:19:07 idea i really don't uh also a genuinely good person from what we hear you want that i i do feel like that's really important i feel like it's important in general but in a two-week gelling thing well in a two-week thing where you're gonna be in china and isolated from everybody because of covid yeah it's good to have just dudes who are kind of low maintenance and cool which he definitely isn't god i miss him yeah yeah it's interesting but anyway michael bunting better
Starting point is 00:19:38 um not necessarily but i you know it's just people throwing that out there now i do want to throw this at you what do you want to throw jess did you want to say something no no okay i do want to move off the leaves unless you guys have anything else to say throw it at me adam are you gonna throw it at me like a habs jersey onto the ice
Starting point is 00:19:55 there is a well we we will get to that don't worry but i wanted to give you some i want to give you some trivia Yeah, because that's where we're going. Sure. Milan Lucic has how many goals this year? Six. Four.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Seven. Hey, that's pretty good. Good work, Jesse. Wow. That is more goals than every single Montreal Canadian, except for who? Sofoli? Gallagher. Josh Anderson, who as of last night is out two to four weeks.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Oh, no. the most next to that is tyler toffoli with five and uh it's just come out as of the recording this podcast that jeff petrie is also out yeah after just coming back you know and they're trying to move uh mr ben c all ben charlotte yeah who has like five goals yeah he does yeah and his bad defensively well okay so i i'm never gonna i kid you not i kid you not eric angles and we gotta have eric on to talk about this they were talking about this morning on uh on sportsnet central about the press conference and stuff like that there's a lot going on in montreal this week and he was saying the teams are calling for charotte already and the expectation is going
Starting point is 00:21:14 to be a first round pick yeah well because who literally who cares how he's doing this here i was making fun of him being bad defensively because his numbers are bad they're not acquiring him for the regular season they're acquiring him for the playoffs and they saw him go to the stanley cup final he was worth a first round pick in may you know what i mean so it's the price just hasn't gone down that's all wow couldn't believe it but i it makes sense now the guy that tossed his jersey on the ice and credit to julian mckenzie of the stpn and the athletic uh for being the guy to catch it because i guess it was julian's tweet that went viral it was sportsnet used it in their graphic um the guy that tossed the canadian's jersey onto the ice called into a french language
Starting point is 00:22:01 radio station afterwards as one of their call-in shows and he said the reason i did it is because the price of beer and tickets hasn't gone down and the product's garbage i've had enough and it you know it kills me because 20 games ago 24 games ago they were in the stanley cup final yeah isn't it crazy how quickly that changed and i think it's because i think it's because they're looking down a pretty long road of no hope here i think my child canadian fans are smart not they're really not a loaded prospect system do they not are they supposed to they do and well and also like okay there's bad by accident right and there's a few teams that are like that and then there's bad by like act of god and like how what scenario would allow
Starting point is 00:22:50 the montreal canadians to be good this year shea weber's gone uh you know okay so you look at like managerial decisions dino leaving and cockney emmy leaving and the devorah trade which should probably be getting a lot more criticism because they gave up their first round pick in that stupid trade but uh not their first round pick carolina's right yeah because their first round pick is going to be top three in montreal when they draft the first overall or still bad man they could have they could have got they could have got charade for that still so yeah so they'll get that first round pick back so anyway those are those three things are managerial carrie price not playing yet had nothing to do with anything
Starting point is 00:23:29 Shea Weber being out the entire year had nothing to do with anything Josh Anderson being out two to four weeks Jeff Petrie like what do you how were they ever supposed to be good
Starting point is 00:23:46 you know what I mean the Canucks iced a team fully healthy and were dog shit and management went but like montreal went out there and was bad and we're all like yeah because look at everything they've had to go through yeah it's awful the problem is that carrie price the chances of
Starting point is 00:24:08 carrie price ever playing like i mean is it is it wrong are we gonna do this again 50 50 games of carrie price are we gonna get 50 games out of that and yo you know it was crazy i learned my last playoffs pierre lebrun pierre lebrun floated yesterday that what might solve the avalanche goalie woes is carrie price no way way way and he's the first person i've heard talk about that but like i don't i don't know in what like i'm not sure if that means that there have been a discussion i'm sure there hasn't been when did nhl gm start treating goalies like it's yahoo fantasy like all right we're gonna give a bajillion dollars to matt murray he's bad he's bad never mind we're gonna give some money to brayden hold be he's bad he's bad never mind
Starting point is 00:24:58 we're gonna give some money to darcy kepper he's bad he's bad never mind like this isn't do you get four waiver claims a week in the nhl is that how this works no that's yahoo fantasy can you tell that's what yeah this is your first year playing fantasy yes in a very long time can you yeah what is with all these teams handing out money to goalies and then immediately abandoning that goalie I don't know you just got Kemper you traded for him they also have a starting goalie
Starting point is 00:25:25 in Pavel Frantzouz who hasn't played yet but he's coming back he's good a month he's good he's just hurt all the time yeah he's like the right catching Peter Morazic and he's a good goalie and if there's anything we know about the Montreal Canadiens is that trades involving legendary goaltenders to the
Starting point is 00:25:41 avalanche always work out really well so you know i think i think we need to repeat history on that one for sure why it man that is maybe the biggest example of it being a copycat league i don't even think about that crazy right bit of a parallel why the of all the shrewd moves joe sakic has made he's gonna hand he's gonna trade for a ten and a half million dollar goalie I don't think that's happening me neither it depends on where Montreal wants to go with this
Starting point is 00:26:14 obviously I don't think that's going to happen I think the contract is a non-starter they gotta pull their head out of their ass defensively is what they gotta do give Kemper a chance if you're playing your best the Avalanche need to play their best hockey
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Starting point is 00:27:35 You gotta try breakfast at A&W. At participating A&W locations in Ontario. So I brought up all that Montreal stuff to ask you guys this. How great does Vancouver management feel about what's going on in Montreal right now? Why? Because all last week... It's a distraction? All we talked about was them.
Starting point is 00:27:58 and if it had kept going if the pressure had kept going i think they'd be gone this week oh it's awesome but because bergevin was let go this weekend because gorton was hired nobody's talking about the vancouver canucks who by the way beat up on the senators last night who by the way started the season saying the rebuild's over ready to win no last night uh anton forsberg beat the carolina hurricanes the hurricanes don't lose often but when they do it's to bad teams it's true look at who they lost to it's weird they've lost to them they've lost to seattle but no it was the night before they killed them it was like six two oh was it vancouver uh was that the night before yeah vancouver has beaten montreal and ottawa and darren drager was on
Starting point is 00:28:40 sakaris and price and he's like i don't know a couple wins maybe maybe management feels like they don't need to do anything and i was just like oh against bad teams i think i mean here's the thing too the canucks schedule i mean you're playing the penguins they're no joke ever uh although they haven't been great this year um but then you've got the kings better bruins struggling jets they're middle of the pack yeah they haven't really found their game like they don't really have a test until the hurricanes on december 12th like a real like a real first place test and the very impressive columbus blue jackets on the 14th that's right very impressive columbus like it's a it's not a it's not the toughest schedule for the canucks jim benning
Starting point is 00:29:26 and co may survive based on that or if you can split that or do you see how low the goddamn bar is i know i'm just saying that's why i brought up montreal i brought up all that montreal stuff to say no one's talking about vancouver and by the way they're still bad accidentally which is the worst kind of bat all i heard you say is you know over the next month they could make their first rounder worse that's all i heard you say all they could do is you know they could make their first rounder worse yep they could do they even have their first rounder is that arizona's oh hang on i think it's protected because every gm no matter how bad is it well enough to do that listen if you're a former leafs gm you're probably not no they do have their first rounders for the next
Starting point is 00:30:11 three years okay no second rounder it was traded away july 23rd which i believe was the ekman larson trait yes yeah so trying to find the quote from the aquilines where they're like a couple of wins stabilized this did you see that did they say that uh no way like two days ago are you sure it was the aquilines i thought it was uh dregger talking about what he thinks the aquilines are thinking so it was dregger not quoting the aquilines but dregger speculating about what yeah they think of this yeah on saccharus and price i retweeted it yesterday okay yeah that's what i was looking for by the way if you're in the vancouver area support those guys because they're doing it on their own now and it's pretty flipping amazing what they've done absolutely um
Starting point is 00:30:52 the uh uh i just i i i was surprised at how quickly people moved off of that you got it yeah it was uh darren dreger saying a couple of wins maybe the aquilines are happy to stand pat it's starting to feel that way there you go i think it was less satisfaction with the team and more wanting to kick the can down the road and not making a decision they're going to regret well and then remember too like when you when you have to replace a gm and a coach the new guys are still gonna suck uh like not that not that the gm and the coach are going to be reflected in that but like you know you have to replace them and then if you're the aquilines you also have to pay them you're paying out ben and you're paying out travis green i think they're both in the last
Starting point is 00:31:39 year their deal but all the same you know do you want to double pay up the salary when you're already gonna suck and you know they're gone anyway there's a lot of interesting opportunity for shuffling this year because like a team like you know who i think could be really interesting trade partners two teams who had very active off seasons who did not expect to suck so they wouldn't be purely buy or purely sell deals the vancouver canucks making some sort of deal with the philadelphia flyers i think makes a lot of sense there are two teams in similar spots okay to me what kind of deal great question like shuffling deck chairs in the titanic or well like like okay i'm trying to think of names that have been out there the flyers haven't had as many
Starting point is 00:32:25 names out there but like the canucks jt miller people are talking about bull horvat was a name that was out there but i don't really see that happening brock besser is a name that's been out there in the past you know i don't know i just i just feel like there could be a as an aside uh the fact that the flyers are not good again um at what point and maybe i'm maybe i'm wrong here and maybe flyers fans can correct me was ron extell maybe right oh yeah well right in the big picture i think too many people limited um their perception of ron hextall's departure from philly to the handling of carter hart right who was real bad last year and real good this year yep to the point where he may even play for team canada may even start
Starting point is 00:33:14 you know that snowman's just gonna keep falling down on the youtube side and make stand up he can lie down he's a also what are you doing no to his backside oh yeah what was that i was trying to he's got a rounded spot and i was trying to tuck it up under i was trying to make it kind of yeah it's called his bum yeah i was trying to flatten his bum stop it if i pound the table all right liars like they weren't good last year no and their moves to get better were bringing in ristalainen and martin jones ryan ellis and who's been hurt and ryan ellis who is on ltir now man and keithy andal like nobody where's the big improvement for the fly so you got so 20 or 75 percent of what you did is objective objectively
Starting point is 00:33:58 questionable martin jones has been okay he has been no i i get it yeah but listen i'm trying i'm moving the old post given martin jones is what 8 20 save percentage over the last couple of years you can understand why it might be like that's a questionable move yeah um ryan ellis is great but i think ryan ellis's body's falling apart on him he's not playing so who cares if he's great he's he's injured that was a concern it was the concern heading so like nobody held a gun to their head right they didn't have to make these moves why why rasmus risked the line wow um well and for a pretty penny too that was a good move by kevin adams um i would like to kevin adams wants to be how many games has ryan ellis played this year five four oh how many years has he signed to
Starting point is 00:34:43 five past this year five one two three four five more years oh after this year yeah oh so that's essentially six yeah um i would like to remove rick bonus from the uh gold medal spot on my coach who's going to be fired first, and I would like to place Alain Vigneault on the top of the podium there. I think that's a thing that could happen sooner
Starting point is 00:35:13 rather than later. So, he's won a lot. Like, won a lot. It's a lot of regular season success. Deep playoff runs. When? A long time ago. Yeah. But is he... I don't think I've heard... A good coach? I don't think I've heard a single good thing about him personally.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And I don't mean that... Sorry, I don't mean like i'm sure he's a nice person but like in terms of sorry his coaching style people seem to hate it no he's not popular he's well and it's like the ken hitchcock thing like supposedly a lot of players didn't really like him and the way mike rupp described having pat burns oh man that sounded awful that sounded terrifying if you drank last night you'll never play in the league again yeah oh it's so good it's it's so good man and you gotta more pat burns stories please i love pat burns he all pat burns stories sound like a police officer who happened to be a very good coach which is literally what pat burns was yeah yeah he was a cop and then they're like you're
Starting point is 00:36:16 an nhl coach and he's like i'm an nhl coach and then he won several stanley cups that way you know you know things that make sense yeah 100 yeah i don't know any like nba or nfl stories where they're like this guy used to be a firefighter and now he won the super bowl like i don't i don't know any of those it's very it's weird right pat burns it's weird yeah pat burns should be a it should be a movie yeah oh it should be a movie i'd watch it i'd watch the mike rup scene oh man you drank last night did you drink last night if you drank last night you'll never play the fucking nhl again okay all right you're into it who would play who would play pat burns though who's got the eyes for that because he had the david clarkson darcy tucker terrifying glare
Starting point is 00:37:01 glare thing going on who could even do that ron swanson oh no no what's his name what the guy that played nick offerman yeah no too old too old too old i think but like you need that it's just we need to find another i mean you can someone else can grow a mustache we'll work on it okay we'll work on it anyway what was where did that question come from oh yeah alain vina so i feel like that the the bad cop shtick works if you're good and they're not so what do you do there michelle terrian who is his assistant coach by the way is a famous bad cop and people tolerate it when they're winning as soon as you're bad get out of here so that's that's why i think vino's time is the the flyers brand the identity
Starting point is 00:38:00 is the the you know the broad street bullies right it's the they don't play like that they don't play like that and they and and and sometimes it's gonna sound really stupid but there are teams that play like their city and the bruins through good and bad play like that they play like the bruins right you're you're a bruin you you know what to do and they have for over a decade the flyers when they were good even when they and flyers have always had terrible luck with goaltending it's hilarious that they finally have good goaltending nothing else works we're assholes who can't stop the puck yeah 100 and sometimes it works but but it's true what i think is interesting with that is like how do you have how do you have a team like the flyers and they're
Starting point is 00:38:41 not scary they're not scary there's nothing scary about the philadelphia flyers radko gudas that's it and it's like radko gudas four years ago might have been a lot scarier but radko gudas is a fringe nhl player now well like i look at i look at radko gudas the way i look at like adam mcquade with the bruins yes and it's like okay you're not that scary in a vacuum you're you're really scary when the guy on the other side of the ice is a dino chara like i remember there was a scrum there was it was like 2011 2012 when they were just terrorizing the league there was a scrum and someone decided to stick up for themselves which was just a bad business move and it was like they were going up against adam mcquade which one-on-one you might
Starting point is 00:39:28 not win that fight and then and then chara and lucic joined the fray with like marshan going let me at him and whoever was in the middle it doesn't matter maybe the one resident good guy on the ice patrice bergeron who will caress you if every bruin scrum you were going for bergeron it nope that's my dance partner that's that's my god of course that's that's that those that's terrifying yes that's awful that would that would regularly be a trio on the ice that they had oh i didn't even mention sean thornton like i didn't even and all here's the thing about many guys with the exception of mcquade and no offense to him those guys all of them chara marshan lucic yeah were dominant hockey players oh yeah like incredible skill oh yeah and two of them will
Starting point is 00:40:18 be hall of famers i think marshan's going in the hall of fame and i think zedano char's going the Hall of Fame. Chara for sure. Martian. That's interesting. I think he's going. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Martian Hall of Fame. Yeah. He's got a resume. I don't know his career numbers. He does have hardware. He sure does. And if not, he's going to the Boston Hall of Fame, which might mean more to him, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:40:37 100%. It's a 328 career goals for 11 assists. That's 739 points. So he's probably going to be a thousand. How many? A thousand points. He's 822. How old is he?
Starting point is 00:40:49 He's older than you think. he's not older than i really think that's how old i think i thought he was 34 no 33 um who's 33 old piece of garbage a thousand games a thousand points stanley cups gold medals yeah yeah he's a hall of famer slew foots slew foots shitty attitude licking piss baby piss baby yeah diaper filler i'd still fucking love him if he was a leaf though hell yeah of course i would love him um but bunting on the coyotes garbage piece of shit bunting on the leaves great adorable i'm just saying i'm just saying the the the flyers have got to figure out a direction it can't be piecemeal anymore you have carter hart you have him forever and ever you make sure
Starting point is 00:41:33 he stays everything else to me is fluid him and proveroff right proveroff's big and scary he's big he's big he's scary to play against i wouldn't want to but but i i would want that what the flyers to me always have or should have is like a swagger oh hell yeah like my era of flyers was um like the legion of doom john leclerc eric lindros michael renberg that was rod brindamore like that was a was it wasn't sammy capon no sammy capon was later um eric desjardins oh and darian hatchwell darian hatcher i think was later too yeah that that era he would have been on the stars yep yeah yeah but eric desjardins absolutely incredible players yeah And I just think there's something, there's a je ne sais quoi that's missing.
Starting point is 00:42:21 I know what you mean. No, like, that shouldn't be a difficult team to build around. No. It's, okay, you have, you could get two good scores. Here's what you had. 97, okay? Okay. Leclerc, Coffey, Lindros, Zubris, Howarchuk, Sillinger, Yanni Ninema, who was really good.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Yeah. And Vaklav Prospo. That's just some of the players on that team. and those are like underrated players who were big and ron hextall who's scary yes big underrated players who were what big exactly crossbow zubris i know zubris very underrated player 100 yes also just a really fun name yes and i i this is the thing like i i'm not saying that you go full uh You go full, like, goon squad. But the Flyers should be the fucking Flyers.
Starting point is 00:43:12 And they're just not. And they haven't been for a long time. No, you're so right. And even when Jake Vorchek was at his best, that felt like the Flyers to me. They were fuckers to play against, man. Yes, fuckers. That's absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Like, even to the media. Yes. They don't have anyone. They need people to be assholes to the local reporters. Then they'll feel like the Flyers. they got rid of they got rid of borachek they lost their whole identity they're way too polite they gotta hey yakub i was just wondering fuck you next question because it was stupid yeah it's shit jeru was a pain in the ass back in the day
Starting point is 00:43:51 i know so kenyakni is another guy who's he was a fucker who says but he's got nobody else around you need several fuckers to be a fucker team yes you know what i mean yeah well you need fucker enablers marshand is marshand because he had enablers he was a fucker who had enablers who could protect him yeah you you might want to go after marshan but you're gonna have to deal with zidane he'd give you a stick he'd give you a trip and he'd give you a chirp and you'd be like why i oughta and then you would be it would just be like a bugs bunny like cloud around you with fists coming in and out of it and then like you'd forget about it you'd been like a month later you try it again and a bunch of fists would come out
Starting point is 00:44:34 and it'd be very you all know the dust cloud that I'm talking about and he would he kept doing it because he was enabled forever you need Travis Konechny needs to be enabled yes for the Flyers to do well and they don't all have to be big like
Starting point is 00:44:49 Morgan Frost is there you've got you do have some players that but like I you know I'm not looking at this lineup and going oh I'm spooked like what how much are you going to put it lay at the feet of Nate Thompson Nate Thompson's four years older than me. Is he?
Starting point is 00:45:06 Yeah. Born in 84, man. We're aging out of the NHL real quick here, by the way. It's kind of scary. Don't like that. This is bullshit. And I'm looking on their defense. Ristelainen, Sanheim, Provorov, Ellis is out, Justin Braun,
Starting point is 00:45:20 like Keith Yandel, who's at the tail end of his career. Not seeing it, guys. They need to make some tough decisions. and i think this summer they did and then they sort of undid them but like okay i guess what i'm getting to is at some point i do think the claude drew era is going to end there and if it's not if it's not i think he needs to be pushed down the lineup a little bit because second line claude drew i think could be a problem but i just think he has to carry too much but i think the big the biggest issue is their lack of identity you're right that's a guy who's a
Starting point is 00:46:03 fucker who's that drew drew oh yeah he's a fucker for sure but he can't be a fucker on his own no some people can go you got tom wilson can be a fucker on his own fucker by committee but but tom wilson tom wilson's the special case because he can be that fucker right who else is like i mean who else they have they had laura zeller on that team on on the capitals of a fucker but is laura zeller as much of as effective without tom wilson i didn't brett connelly and davante smith pelly were uh down the lineup fuckers jerks right yeah and you know what when you're watching them like i remember leo comrade and fucker yes before he retired during covid i forgot yes um leo comrade the first time he was here in 2013 he was one of the first guys i could remember since
Starting point is 00:46:50 like darcy tucker who would get under players skin and and go with them all game and what happened they would be distracted and they play like shit and he'd win well and also he was enabled he was enabled because frazier mclaren and cold north the dust cloud the four minutes a game that they would play it was hilarious but there were listen should it be allowed probably not but as long as it is you should use it see the fighting thing is to me is is you've already passed the point of no return at that point it's what you do before the fight it's all that it's the needling because you don't need to fight somebody to get in their head yeah right no the needling pain in the ass for a while i'm gonna it's gonna bother you the
Starting point is 00:47:35 needling is what makes teams worse it's the fighting that enables the needle oh okay okay We're figuring this out. By the way, did we just solve hockey? Florida Panthers points percentage, by the way, are number one in the NHL right now. I saw a very funny tweet. What's that? The Sabres were up 3-0 on the Florida Panthers.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Oh, no. And Dwayne, we all know Dwayne, big Buffalo Sabres fan Dwayne, just goes, if Aaron Dell can't park this in the garage, we need to leave him in Florida. And the next update I saw was Panthers lead 6-4. You know what's funny? They won 7-4. Man, that's rough.
Starting point is 00:48:18 But it's okay. They got Malcolm Subban. Yeah. Well, Kevin Weeks' tweet on that was really funny. He's like, big trade incoming. And then it's like, Malcolm Subban. Remember when, like, Eunice Corpus Allo was available? Columbus is like, they're too good.
Starting point is 00:48:38 They're too good to get rid of them. so if you're the say the sabers here's the thing the sabers are actually not that bad they're really not oh the record says they're bad yeah they're really not that bad but they can't stop the puck they can't and their great hope is craig anderson when he returns from injury for god's sake go get a goalie hey just some pride yeah if you can't stop a puck are you good no okay the team around the dudes who can't stop a puck. And by the way, speaking of which, just to interrupt you,
Starting point is 00:49:12 Jesse, the true general manager of the Buffalo Sabres. Oh, that's right. Where do we stand? We lost game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals. Jesus. We were up 2-0. It hurt. And then we lost. Did it hurt? How did you actually feel?
Starting point is 00:49:28 It was terrible. Oh, you looked good. I had an angry stream on Wednesday. I did like an hour before the game. I wanted Adam Fox and austin matthews on our team and i couldn't pry them away from either team either of them i was very upset so then i went out and i spent 12 million dollars on um keeping in mind this is 2026 2025 off season is the salary cap coming up at this point yeah yeah the salary caps i think that like 90 million okay or 95 million i should say not that much more okay there's no covet in
Starting point is 00:49:59 video games and and we're waiting tonight to see if any of our big deals come through the 12 million so who'd you offer 12 million to hold on hold on let me see who i offered it to what jesse failed to mention is they blew a lead in game six too oh it was uh i offered it to rantanen because i knew it was somebody i didn't want to say the wrong name off of uh colorado but yeah rantanen was a free agent i offered 12 million bucks and we'll see if that comes 12 million for rantanen yeah because uh adam fox who was also a free agent he wanted 14 million i was like that's oh my god yeah the the the prices have gone up because the salary cap's gone up but yeah we'll see we'll see tonight if that comes you know it'd be funny to
Starting point is 00:50:40 see if we can keep track of some of these contracts that are signed in jesse's game i don't know nobody will but it would be kind of funny to see how accurate some of these because when adam fox comes up tell me if the salary cap's up tell me adam fox isn't worth 14 million dollars a year he's the best young defenseman in the league he's and they can't find right shot defenseman in this league no his contract his contract didn't he just sign eight years yeah oh sorry yeah i guess he did there's been there have been so many like very large deals but because they were just sort of tweeted and that's it like you forgot about them you know charlie mcavoy signed yes he did so i guess when adam fox is up in eight years i could see 14
Starting point is 00:51:19 million oh yeah oh yeah easily didn't sabanajad sign like a bunch of yeah he did a bunch of huge deals that just sort of kind of slipped under. Cruised. Cruised in there. Yeah. So it's been a wild one. Anyway, Jesse, I'm so sorry. So you... That's alright. When do we find out? Tonight? Yeah, tonight we have another stream. I just want to know when the Red Dead stream is happening.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Yeah, me too. Ooh. At some point. I've been thinking about it a lot. I've been thinking. I want to do... I could have sworn he said that last time we brought it up. Yeah, I've been thinking about it a lot. You know, well, you've been, you know...
Starting point is 00:51:55 Well, you've had your feet up playing sick. I've been thinking about Sean Maguire and Red Dead. All right. I want to do, here's what I want to do. And I've never done this. I want to do Red Dead, a 100% playthrough. I've never done a 100% playthrough. Do all the challenges and everything.
Starting point is 00:52:17 It's going to take until I'm 39. It's going to take forever. A 100% playthrough. and so what is i don't know what that means okay so you have to complete every task yeah you have to it's over 100 hours observe and hunt every animal um get every three star pelt get every item of clothing get every um satchel thank you mr pearson shout out simon pearson you have to uh finish all the challenges you have to rob x amount of people you got to do gunslinger challenges you gotta shoot five birds on a moving train you gotta you gotta do uh gambling challenges
Starting point is 00:53:02 you gotta poker yeah you gotta do play poker yeah i did a i did one of them recently you gotta you gotta bust people at uh all at three different poker locations flatneck station busted sandini busted valentine you know i busted them i can't wait to do this i really okay i'm very excited i also want to see you rob a train because i should do should i do it this weekend it's tough to rob a train yeah why not why wouldn't you what do you have to do fuck you all right i've had enough yeah it didn't let me back i was gonna have some free time and then my son very selfishly decided to get an ear infection. What a jerk.
Starting point is 00:53:47 So we'll see. Hey, Jesse. Yes. Should we just get to the, I guess, I just wanted to quickly mention Winter Classic jerseys. I have one question. That was going to be the first question in the press conference. Let's get into it.
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Starting point is 00:55:00 The Presser SDP. The Steve Dangle Press Conference. All right, quick thing before we get going here. According to Lance Lusowski Who is with the Buffalo News The Sabres are winless in their last 10 games Against the Hurricanes Buffalo's last win over Carolina occurred
Starting point is 00:55:19 March 22nd, 2016 Wow Carlo Koliakovo Evander Kane and Johan Larsson scored for the Sabres Wow Isn't that kind of crazy? Just a bit of a time warp That's crazy
Starting point is 00:55:34 Carlo Koliakovo is a morning show host in Toronto For any Sabres fans listening to this um uh so you the question was about the winter winter classic jerseys right what do you guys think of the nashville predators and tampa bay lightning's new winter classic jerseys uh the oh the well the tampa bay lightning jerseys are fine yeah i like them i like them the nashville jersey is the one that everyone's talking about so let me just tell you the nashville jerseys are actually really good without glasses.
Starting point is 00:56:08 And then the second you focus on them, you're like, what the fuck did they... It's like an adult designed the jersey and let their toddler design the last 10%. Yeah, I think they got the sweater part right. They didn't get the logo right.
Starting point is 00:56:23 No, I kind of like the logo in the middle, and I like the name plates fine, the arms are fine, but they have... The letters are different. why are the letters different why are they all different sizes and then someone explained again i it's always the explanation no it's like the i think it's like a music poster where some letters are bigger and some letters are smaller and all smooshed and no it looks like shit i just it looks
Starting point is 00:56:54 good on a poster it looks shit on a sweater yeah and it's not going to show up well like it's also like if you look at how it's gonna pop on the ice excuse me i don't think it's gonna look good at all the letters go out okay you know how it's the yellow like belt and then the blue letters yeah yeah the blue letters go above the belt boo what is this shit um greg wischinski had a tweet and he did say that the jerseys are always bad for these and he's mostly right but the tampa bay landon got it right i love the bolts jersey i do too that's true that's an awesome jersey yeah we just we focus on the bad and honestly this jersey would be fine if they just made the letters normal it'd be fun and i feel like the explanation comes after the fact
Starting point is 00:57:41 you know somebody designed it and then was like oh this is why it's designed like yeah yeah it's like what do they call it shooting an arrow and painting a bullseye around it right yeah it looks cool and also there's a story to it no it's we all look at it and go what the fuck is this and then they have to explain and then some people go oh okay and then most people go
Starting point is 00:58:03 oh it's still fucking stupid yeah yeah I wish I'd known about the New Jersey Devil shoes the jersey shoes that are those are sick those are cool as shit those are cool as shit I really like those yeah the winter class that's a really cool jersey like for the bolts the lightning one
Starting point is 00:58:19 oh it's great I love that clean yeah beautiful real good great sweater real good real they made a uh a jersey for a florida-based team that fits perfectly into winter yeah yeah it's winter theme i also want to say that i feel like that jersey that style of jersey is what team canada needs to move to yeah oh yeah because you like the canada cup i do i love that it's very reminiscent of that yeah i think they need to get back to that why aren't they oh by the way did you guys mention on the show that the reason we can't use the canada hockey logo is because the ioc says you can't use a logo no we didn't bring it up so essentially a bunch of people message me and they're like the reason they can't use
Starting point is 00:58:59 the hockey canada logo is because it's a corporate logo and you can't use that in the olympics and i would say hockey canada is a not-for-profit but what do i know the olympics are the least fun thing in the entire world you can't use our highlights until the olympics begin yeah then they're great but as soon as they end they go back to instantly goes back to the least enjoyable thing for two weeks every four years the olympics don't suck yeah and you know they're phony about all of that corporate stuff because it's an the olympics are an amateur sport competition until it comes to the big name athletes we want on in our sport well yeah 80 percent and you know you're an nba player you can play here even though this is for
Starting point is 00:59:43 amateur athletes yeah well in the but you know the reason it was supposed to be for amateur athletes right why the guy that founded the olympics hated poor people i'm not kidding the guy didn't like like it's not not not the olympics in athens the guy that brought him back in the late 1800s was an uh a man of the aristocracy and the way to keep poor people out was to uh make sure that only amateur athletes competed because amateur athletes had to come from rich families because they were the only ones with the privilege to be able to devote the amount of time that you would need and not have to
Starting point is 01:00:16 have a job so the so that principle in and of itself the fact that it's quote unquote amateur to me is so elitist and bullshit we need to get rid of it let the pros play that's fine the whole amateur athlete thing is such a
Starting point is 01:00:32 fucking crock of shit and what it was based on and even what it is now it's a crock of shit these people work their asses off let them make some damn money in italy in a league and then compete at the olympics what do we want we want best on best do we not yeah then that's what we want yes stop the amateur athlete shit jesse you're absolutely right don't be a hypocrite yeah there's a lot of there's so many shady things going around in and around the well and let's okay let's be honest china's a bit of a problematic country with what's going on in with tennis right
Starting point is 01:00:59 now right and human rights and and and and and and so like you know i i know that uh this isn't gonna make me popular but i like they literally a chinese tennis player disappeared and china and the w2ta just canceled a billion dollars worth of events in china next year because they're like we don't know that she's not under some sort of issue here we can't we can verify she's alive we don't know where she is didn't at the summer olympics didn't another country i want to say a european country like essentially try to abduct an olympian no no belarus a belarussian olympian escaped to belarus right but like didn't wasn't there something about like at the airport i don't know i don't know yeah but anyway my thing is okay my thing is like the olympics are all like
Starting point is 01:01:50 yeah togetherness but you know but then you award what is it two olympics to china in the last 10 years yeah so a corporate logo though that's the problem but yeah we need to keep corporations out of the olympic out of the olympics and dictate dick dictatorships in let's go yeah it's just wild man it's wild i i don't know anyway it's a problem for me sorry shouldn't have ranted like that no it's gonna get i got a bunch of gonna get a bunch of hateful comments from bots what You didn't like that Dick Pound was trending the other day? Was he trending? Why is he always trending?
Starting point is 01:02:27 He's been trending for like 20 years now. Dick Pound fucking comes out of nowhere. Dick Pound's a Canadian. Does he? And he comes out of nowhere and he goes, athletes are doing steroids. And people are like, Every time.
Starting point is 01:02:40 It's his MO. Every time. Every two years we hear from Dick Pound. I'm pretty sure Dick Pound trended on December 1st. Did he? Which, you know. Yeah, at the end of No Nut. you know well no all right i'm just saying there's there's me trying to be subtle
Starting point is 01:02:56 there's you going dick pound dick pound jesse next question this comes from noodle man 15 10 on our discord wait in school he was pound comma dick okay sorry what what richard he's richard noodle man wants to know if you could bite three people in history dead or alive who would they be This is a throwback to Brendan Lemieux earlier this week biting Brady Kachuk. Who would you guys bite? You got three bites to any figure in history
Starting point is 01:03:30 dead or alive. You're doing this too, Jesse. Who you got, Steve? So you don't want to go too far back in history because then they'd be dirty. You know? You don't want to put a dirty... What, you're worried about it kicking back onto you?
Starting point is 01:03:47 Yeah. You got all the vaccines that they didn't have. it's true yeah i think you're in this scenario you're a time traveler and you get to come back and you're fine just wash your hands or rinse your mouth you're not gonna get rubella yeah you'll be all right you won't get scurvy because you bit somebody but you will get it if you don't eat your damn vegetables so what's the scenario it's like okay i'm just randomly no no you right now i have a machine that allows you to go back in time and bite somebody and then come back and Once you make the bite, once you chomp down, you're transported back to this time.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Oh. And that person has to continue living their life having just been bitten by a time traveler. Yeah. Nobody will believe them. That's awesome. So where are you going? Who are you biting? What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:04:35 Like, what if I was the reason that Hitler started to do drugs because I bit him? You're not changing any course of history. But I am. No, no. He got bit by a time traveler and had to live and no one believed him. The way time traveling works
Starting point is 01:04:49 is that everything that's already happened because you've already time traveled because you've already gone back. So everything the way that's going to play out has already happened the way it's going to play out.
Starting point is 01:04:57 So you've already affected history by going back in time. You just haven't done it yet. Yeah, you just haven't done it yet. You here haven't done it yet, but in the past, you've done it yet. You've done it.
Starting point is 01:05:06 So just bite somebody. This is much more complicated than it needs to be. Can we just fucking answer it? Like, what do we do? I want to know the parameters in which I am biting a historical monster.
Starting point is 01:05:20 You become your own grandmother when you go back in time because you accidentally sleep with somebody in your family. Okay. I didn't need that. I didn't need that. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:05:34 There's already alleged royalty in my family. I didn't need that. Okay. Believe me, it's occurred to me. I'm going to keep saying things until you just name somebody okay all right number one Genghis Khan cocky asshole was way too sure of himself and I just think it would take him down a peg to get bitten by a time traveler and have no one believe him he wouldn't even tell anybody he wouldn't because it would make him seem weak
Starting point is 01:06:02 to admit that he was bit especially by someone who looks like me you know just all kind of doughy guess what think your powerful leader doughy guy just bit you and then disappeared you didn't even get to do anything against him so genghis khan fuck that guy number two hitler number one fuck that guy but also number two uh towards the end i feel like you know he he thought i'm gonna go out on my terms guess guess what before you go out i'm gonna bite you so that i would specifically bite him right before it was all over for him right before he died he's like all right i'm hitler i'm going out on my terms nope you got bit by a time travel what if you bit hitler what and then but then he had then he went out in front of a crowd and said i was bitten by a
Starting point is 01:06:45 time traveler and then he was basically they all were like wow this guy actually is crazy and let's all not follow him anymore see adam's on board with my version of events you're not changing history by biting somebody we've already established that history has already happened no but what if history happened because i changed it yeah okay that might have happened so the Everything still happens. Everything still happens. That's not the focus here. I just want to inflict pain or maybe pleasure too.
Starting point is 01:07:14 And Mussolini, he was a truly ridiculous person and he put my family in jail and fuck him for that and fuck his stupid lower lip and I would bite him. I was about to say I'd bite his lower lip. I wouldn't. I'd bite something else. Steve's missing the opportunity here to a little love bite.
Starting point is 01:07:29 A love bite? I'm going to go next because I think Adam... You would nibble someone? Why not? oh are you trying oh no no do we want a little love fight no no you want to nibble on mussolini's ear there i'd mike tyson mussolini's here jesse go ahead i'll go because i think adam's gonna have the best answers because he knows history i don't know so i'm gonna do one i'm gonna bite uh muhammad ali oh because i want to be like i bit the greatest fighter i took him down a peg you
Starting point is 01:08:03 might have the best answers already man i don't think i'm gonna compare to that that's amazing next uh christopher columbus because i think he's a dickhole that's a good answer i don't want to bite him and then uh just run away you know i have because i feel like he deserves it here's here's the thing about christopher columbus here's the thing about christopher columbus one of history's greatest dickholes yeah so thank you for that so what you wouldn't want gonna bite muhammad ali and be like take that dance like a butterfly from my teeth um and then lastly i'm the greatest and you know no one would believe you and then lastly i'm gonna do jesus so i can say i ate the body of christ and you don't have to
Starting point is 01:08:51 take this and then the sacrament is mine because i ate in real life so and then i'll bite jesus adam who are your three who are my three i don't think i don't even think i need to go i got i i honestly don't who are your three oh oh man are you okay adam we need you do we good luck adam so i would go back in history and i would bite steve i would i would bite steve in like grade nine and then i would say you're a bitch and then he would say he would claim forever that i did that to him and i'd be like i don't know what
Starting point is 01:09:47 the fuck you're talking about i don't have a time and then be like a guy who looks and sounds exactly like an older adam bit me and he talks exactly like grade nine adam does no you wouldn't know adam oh you would know i know yeah okay but we'd be we'd be doing this podcast and you'd be yelling here adam you came back in time when i was a grade nine you bit me and we'd all be like steve steve you're fucking crazy man uh and then and then and then and then i would actually do it i'd be like and he here's the thing it's perpetuating because steve would say it so much yeah and we'd be like no steve that didn't happen that when the time machine was presented to me i'd be like you know that actually sounds like a great idea i think i'm
Starting point is 01:10:26 gonna do that it would be an eight-year joke on this yeah it'd be incredible for the content and nobody would believe you adam that's evil i would um when i was in grade two i bit my dog back because he kept biting me he was in oh so you've done it yeah i have so he well i was great too you're set reasonable time travel no but i would go back so i would go back and bite him again because he deserved it dog had it coming wow not not heavy but just you know he kept he kept nip nip let him know yeah just be like hey i'm here you must have had a lot of fur in your mouth i did he was he was a white short-haired dog too like bindi
Starting point is 01:11:15 and and like your dog and so like it was like afterwards it was pretty bad let me tell you i lost that fight uh and then the third who the fuck would i bite can i change one of my answers while you're thinking sure yeah of course no okay no i want to change one of my answers so i'd still bite hitler and i'd still bite gang as con but not mussolini i wouldn't bite mussolini because the italian people took care of that asshole they took care of they did they finished him so i would uh bite jk rowling on the fingers before she got twitter i would bite her and i'd be like stop ruining it and then i'd go back in time no you don't change history no no you'd still have twitter and she would still write problematic shit on twitter don't worry no you're not changing
Starting point is 01:11:57 history i'd bite her anyway maybe she did that because you bit her like that you could have yeah hey this fucking guy bit me and no one will believe me let me say something mean now i'm transphobic steve look what you caused who wrote the catcher in the rye oh that fucking guy um you're not changing history no but i i hated i just hated that book jd salinger that one oh that fucking book i'd bite them man you can tell a lot about a person by their feelings after reading the catcher in the rye there's a lot justin fisher's wrong on that yeah he is wrong it's a shitty book it's a shitty book it's wrong it's shitty and by the way flat out
Starting point is 01:12:41 that's who i'd bite i'd bite holden caulfield that's who i'd fucking yeah but he's fake though he's fictional fuck i know but you wish you could i go back and i go give uh speaking of justin fisher i go give him a little love bite right on the neck oh man so you'd bite two people you went to high school yeah and who was the other one well you you and then no no no great my great my dog max great too this is good answers okay i don't know i i just want to i want to make justin feel things i want you to think you're crazy and i'm going to gaslight you for eight years until it actually happens and then i want my dog max to to get bit again because he needs to know okay haven't forgotten sometimes you got to assert your dominance so we're i think we're
Starting point is 01:13:24 done here right do you feel good do you feel like we did a good job today what if i went back in time as a 33 year old man and like while i was getting bullied when i was 12 i bit the 12 year old who was pulling and i just and i look at me and i go it gets better and then i disappeared don't worry about it everything's gonna be fine that would be an experience that you sign up for youtube you'd be in therapy for that yeah no straight up invest in youtube invest yeah invest it buy bitcoin stop using dog pile go on youtube or use google or ask jeeves remember that ask jeeves asked i do but i use dog pile did you use dog yeah and the only reason i use it is because i was a child and thought it was funny because it's poop is that what i don't know what
Starting point is 01:14:10 dog pile dog pile is one of the original search engines along with ask jeeves yeah i know i see you uh yahoo google ask jeeves and wasn't dog wasn't it one of them so supposed to be like child safe and that's why they wanted us to use it in the tdsb i don't know i was like 10 there you go okay well i'm old enough to have used floppy disks at uh at school oh yeah closing thunk organ trail with a space bar i remember when the internet came on a cd from oaol oh aol yes and jennifer aniston and uh uh jennifer aniston and matthew perry explaining windows 95 on you put a little cd in and i don't know that one yeah so if you look it up they actually filmed the video and if you bought i think a mac or no you bought a windows computer or whatever you
Starting point is 01:14:57 bought windows 95 operating system it would come in this thing and it would be like them explaining you how to use it it's fucking great i was i just finished the reading the katie couric book and she plays some of the clips of like asking the producers while she's on the today show what the internet is can you explain this oh wow yeah it's kind of cool can you explain this in a way that doesn't make it seem like a fad yeah have you guys seen the beatles doc that's on no i'm gonna binge it this week so you're seeing the clip everybody's everyone's eight hours holy shit yeah why everybody on twitter always takes one clip and focuses on it here's it sounds like work paul has always been my boy paul has always been my boy i have always been a paul mccartney
Starting point is 01:15:39 solo fit i love wings i love the shit that he did on his own and people were always like no it's I love that Rihanna song. I love, I love, John's better. George is better. No, Paul McCartney is the man. And I believe this documentary spells that out. What's that? Who the hell said George is better?
Starting point is 01:15:55 Oh, a lot of people. They were, they were misguided. Yeah, they're wrong. Paul McCartney is, is a genius among geniuses. They were, the three of them were brilliant. And then there was Ringo, who was lovely. Who tagged along. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:08 What did they say about Ringo? He wasn't the best drummer. He wasn't even the best drummer in the Beatles. Yeah. Right? so but yeah paul mccartney's the man he's always been the man and i just like that he's finally getting the spotlight are you guys gonna commit to watching eight hours on disney no you're not gonna watch it i mean i might over the course of like i don't know i feel like i know enough
Starting point is 01:16:26 i haven't watched the sopranos yet man like i don't i don't know i don't have time to watch a lot of tv oh really well i did i will say this i did watch selling sunset and okay and have you seen the have you seen the most recent i'm on i haven't tried ice cream but i have tried i'm on episode three what the fuck okay i'm on jesse three it's okay of this of this new season if you watch selling sunset you have got to wait till the last scene of the last episode okay of this season i'm not gonna spoil it all i'm gonna say is it's one of the greatest scenes in television history right there it's fucking amazing so good so you need to watch it you've never watched selling sunset i've seen episodes of course you have your wife loves that yeah oh she loves garbage
Starting point is 01:17:11 the best i love garbage too it's good i'm getting into below deck now that's great below that's great million dollar listing new york and la amazing million dollar listing isn't good the characters aren't compelling to me they don't have christine they don't have chrishell they don't have divina but they have it's not you know what you don't think frederick ecklund's a compelling character i get bored i get bored whenever that's on i love that show so much so much real estate important too yeah selling sunset is beautifully shot as well they always look like they're going to the club the the best part of selling sunset i laugh every time there's a transition song oh it's a generic song but it's like oh we're dancing and it's la watch out baby i got my
Starting point is 01:17:55 heels on baby and then they get out of the lamborghini like here's this house and it's 22 million dollars sorry i'm only offering 21 fuck it the buyer won't do it now we're back in the office and it's la and sunny all portrayer all portrayals of la are absolutely ridiculous yeah so when i went there i was like correct well yeah when i went there i was like i can't wait to see what la is actually like and it was ridiculous it was exactly that it's literally how would how you think la is it's that it's that yeah um yeah people are outrageous there and i went like shortly after grand theft auto uh five came out so i was like hey there's that building there's that street i've shot people on the street one day adam we should take a trip to
Starting point is 01:18:40 la just to go take a picture in front of the oppenheimer group oh i love that yes here's us in front of the selling sunset listing place oh man okay i was like what are you talking can i can i i want to read you a tweet before we go first off one that'll make you unhappy and then one that'll make you happy i would bite muhammad ali um mitch martyr and jake muzzin collided at practice today mitch was slow getting up had to leave practice early that didn't happen earlier this season yeah it's happened again today uh mlse wanted to promote the argos which they do very little to promote okay so they brought the quarterback mclean mcleod bethel thompson he's got three last names as his last if before you said that if you had asked hey can you name the
Starting point is 01:19:30 starting quarterback of the drug flutie next mcleod bethel thompson he's like ricky bobby but in reverse and for context the argos are one win away from the gray cup right mcleod bethel thompson quarterback i believe you uh he appeared for a raptors game interview on tv but by doing so he violated cfl covid policies by the cfl's rules he's not eligible to play sunday what yeah because he went to a raptors game yeah are you kidding me no but wayne simmons was at a raptors game yeah but that's cfl rules cfl rules you can't do that what are they allowed to do i fucking nothing i guess nothing i guess yeah you can't go to you can't go out for is it isolating four days before a game or something.
Starting point is 01:20:17 But the team sent him to go promote the conference finals. I guess they didn't read the suspension from the league, not from the team. It's the Argos who made the mistake. That's a crazy story. Oh, God. That's one to watch. I hope they win.
Starting point is 01:20:33 You told me the Argos were one game away from the Grey Cup just in time for me to be disappointed by them. This is the only argos news i know it's a rough ride of year anyway if the argos go to the gray cup they win on sunday despite their quarterback being suspended will you go to the gray cup no it's in hamilton that even more no no with the capitals what the if i give you a free ticket i live in oshawa i'm
Starting point is 01:21:00 not going into the hamilton that's forever from here all right we'll wrap it up we're out of here you're lucky i came here we love you we'll see you monday i'm playing the music i'll play the music out imagine they lose this and my thinking is who do you fire somebody somebody's in trouble for this you make a trade for ryan getzlaff's brother uh-huh who's on the breakup isn't in hamilton it's in saskatchewan okay the steve dangle podcast follow the guys on twitter at steve underscore dangle at adam w y l d e and at jesse blake Problem connection complete.

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