The Steve Dangle Podcast - Ties & Knies | April 11, 2022

Episode Date: April 11, 2022

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Adam goes Wylde at Jesse's birthday party (00:00), Auston Matthews scores 50 in 50, OR DOES HE??? (08:00), how would you change the NHL's overtime rules? (...22:00), reports say Matthew Knies is considering going back to University (39:00), Evgeni Malkin will meet with the DoPS over Mark Borowiecki cross-check to the face (56:00), Auston for eventual captain (1:20:00), and #sdpnfanFridays winners! (1:22:00). Originally aired: April 11, 2022 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/YTONBGR2ZTw Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. We've joined The Athletic and you can too! Hit the link to subscribe: https://theathletic.com/sdp Visit this episode's sponsors: Get 20% off + free shipping with the code DANGLE at manscaped.com. That’s 20% off + free shipping with the code DANGLE at manscaped.com. It’s time to get wet and clean with your new MANSCAPED™ Shower Routine." https://betterhelp.com/SDP https://www.mvmt.com/ CODE: DANGLE https://athleticgreens.com/SDP Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:38 the steve dangle podcast with your host steve dangle adam wild and jesse blake jesse didn't have to be that mean about it i mean i thought it was pretty good i it was it wasn't god it's It's a Monday, you know. I mean, listen, you got to get into the groove. This is coming from the guy who names his show the Jesse Blake Sports Report. We're going to trust his opinion? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Are we going to go over all the suggestions? We are, but later in the show. Poop, poop, magoo. I think poop and magoo is the leading. Happy belated birthday, Raf. We have to be nice to you. Yeah, it was a... I got to go to Jesse's birthday party,
Starting point is 00:01:18 and you didn't because you work Saturdays, but it was very fun. I hope you had a good time. Oh, my God. i i i was saying to natalie the next morning it was this is jesse's birthday party and i had a little too much to drink and i was on my shit and it was fun i haven't cut loose like that in like probably over two years and i was i was on my game and uh i said to natalie the next day i'm like be honest with me was i a fucking idiot last night and she's like no you're okay you're okay so now
Starting point is 00:01:45 now i'm wondering if we're too new in our relationship for her to tell me the truth so jesse be honest was i an idiot no adam is the perfect party guest because he is the life of the party type where if somebody asks him something it's yeah let's go he turns it down to do it yeah you know adam's the perfect party guest and you were a lot of fun yeah we had good times yeah jesse's friend uh had me shotgun a beer for the first time in a decade wow that's the extent to that adam is down for whatever yeah i'm down how'd you do i'm down well uh so yeah we're in the shower we're in the so so there's a okay there's just there's a whole thing we were in jesse's shower there's a party room in jesse's condo building right yes and next to it is the men's
Starting point is 00:02:26 change room for the gym and you know you got your typical gym bros going in at saturday night at 9 p.m i'm like you have nothing else to do though i need to pump i need to get pumped yeah and so anyway um we're they're trying to change in there and we're in the shower shotgunning beers and uh and his buddy taun is he's the key guy you gotta have if you're gonna shotgun beers you gotta have a guy who can key it properly yeah because if you have somebody that doesn't it can cut your mouth uh very true have you had that uh no what i had is um you ever have the friend smash the top of your beer bottle so that it foams up so you got to put it in your mouth really fast yeah so when they did that they broke the lip of the bottle but i reacted to the foam and not that and so i went
Starting point is 00:03:07 yeah if you have a friend that does that to you just make sure you point the bottle at them yeah my thing is always if you're gonna pop my bottle like that i just pointed at them and and because i think that's a dick move i think it's a dick move so and like you know there's there's party moves that are fun and then there's party moves like you're just being an asshole right and everybody's got that guy in the group of their friends that is an asshole that everybody sort of walks on eggshells around so my thing is always yeah jesse the drawing on people i put in the asshole category oh yeah my friends did that to me a lot and i Stop coming to the parties
Starting point is 00:03:43 That's weird You need a guy who can do the key thing In the camp So Jesse's friend Ton can do that really really well And then so we did one And then I'm just sitting there hanging out next to Natalie And talking to TJ And talking to Jax
Starting point is 00:03:58 Talking to Gabby who's Jesse's girlfriend And then This is how I feel like I communicate With Ton Whenever we get together I'm like we don't need to speak we're just friends and he came over and he just touched the inside of my knee i'm like he wants me to go have another one with him yeah we did we went he didn't say anything it was like time it just they both knew yeah it was time to do another shotgun uh so yeah i i'm not gonna lie
Starting point is 00:04:22 to you it was it was uh it was one of those feeling on sunday the only thing i had was bad hartford what what spicy beer spicy all the spicy cereal you weren't hung over no not at all wow and i get hung over bad like i get two or three day hangovers if i ever drink like that which is why never do but uh my body decides now it it used to be no you don't get them and then it was you always get them always and now yeah like it's weird you hit a certain age where your body's like all right i'm gonna let you go with a warning this time what yeah sure yeah it's because your insides have turned to leather basically yeah but so are we doing round two on wednesday do you need me to get gabby to rent out the condo it'd be my birthday yeah party room
Starting point is 00:05:07 again i don't think so i don't think round two for adam i think it was round one was enough i'm so stupid i'm like you're having another birthday party oh wait it's out of this guy i forgot jesse's birthday is four days within the same week i don't know adam sounds like round two shotgun i definitely not on a wednesday that's for now what robert malloy and i had a very funny conversation last night because last night was the deadline for applications for game over right in several different markets but there was a problem with uh where you submit applications it like i don't do you know what happened yeah the uh the timer just kind of ran out a little early when you set it it it it runs out i think it's like 45 minutes before you actually set it
Starting point is 00:05:52 so i didn't know that it was first time i used this service to make the application so now i discovered that so i just changed it i just moved it's cool so we had to get a hold of you two and uh we were both like well i don't think they're gonna answer the phone adam's definitely not gonna answer the phone because he's got the morning show tomorrow and jesse i assume is hung over from his birthday so no sunday night no no i'm not recovering sunday night you're 30 he was up at 30 he was up and uh and sending emails at 6 30 this morning so i know wow no little secret it that was a uh pre-scheduled oh one of my tricks of being on top of things is pre-scheduling emails i love like i'll do things in the middle of the night and i'll just get everything up and
Starting point is 00:06:35 they'll send in the morning and yeah i think that bosses should do that at jobs instead of sending emails over the weekend send the email but have it pre-scheduled for nine o'clock monday morning no one should have to read unless they're like in a business like our business unfortunately uh you do have to bother people on the weekends because if you're running programming on the weekends you do have to bother people but if like if i had a show and i knew that that show was on on its weekend like if it was cj and julian and i was like guys we need to have a talk about something that you said it was really bad and all the sponsors are pulling out unless it was that to your level i kind of don't want to bother them because it's their weekend you know what i mean
Starting point is 00:07:14 i'll wait for monday yeah like that email i was sending to uh natalie i probably wrote her that i don't know midnight or 11 or something like that and it doesn't matter until the morning doesn't she doesn't need to do anything until the morning so why would i just send it then jesse good boss in the yeah good boss jesse i've gotten emails and texts from bosses at times where i'm like you good right yeah you wonder like what what's going on with you what do you do is that okay yeah you know you can buy like sleepy tea at the grocery store right like is everything okay it's also like thursday and it came out like three it's it's not all right that you're forget sending emails up it's not all right that you're up it's not all right that i'm
Starting point is 00:07:56 up to see that you were up to send this you need a chat you want to you want to just talk as friends you want to just yeah yeah you want to shut off the the boss and employee thing for a minute and how you doing we'll get to this email later yeah let's just chat first well how yeah i we i want to know tell me how your weekend was um so so let me let me say this i want to say this i think it's really important that you know this 50 goals in 50 games doesn't count unless it started from game one of the season damn that's that sucks man i'm gonna say it anyway because it's a thing that he did you two steve in particular who probably over 10 minutes but you guys put a lot of energy into the trolls out there yeah we gotta stop doing that you're right no i don't tweet you're right
Starting point is 00:08:40 Your LFR tweet was 19 minutes long. You're welcome. About 50% of that was just responding to people who were getting you to respond. You're welcome. By trolling you. Nope. Nope. Here's what I do.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I gave out the good content. I gave that out where I said 50 in 50 means 50 in 50. Shut your whiny mouth. And then you know what I did? I shut the faucet off. I let it. pour out for whatever it was five ten minutes and then i shut the faucet off and there were no leaks no leaks i was done after that i was done i got it out there and i was done you shut it off like
Starting point is 00:09:24 you're shutting it off for the winter the reality is it's 51 goals in 50 games and it's extraordinarily impressive and it doesn't matter i don't care if it happened and i don't care if this is somebody else if it was ovi i wouldn't care if it doesn't start on game one who fucking cares over a 50 game span scoring 50 goals is really impressive right dude so ovi was actually so i had someone say to me that now if matthews did this but it was spread over a couple seasons then i think you're stretching it a bit and i was like yeah okay i agree with that totally yeah totally yeah yeah but still i remember it actually is still impressive it's extraordinary i would probably still count that like i don't know i probably would too and so would most people because a few
Starting point is 00:10:04 years ago alexander ovechkin he didn't quite do it but he was on the verge he it was like spread over two seasons i want to say he ended up with like 47 or 48 and i remember like tsn and sports net tracked it for like a couple weeks because they're like hey here's this thing ovechkin did and he might actually do it and he would be the first guy to do it since blah blah blah blah blah and you know how people responded to that story was a very good player by the way oh absolutely Extremely good. Anyway, sorry, continue. For a fourth round pick.
Starting point is 00:10:37 But you know what? You know how people reacted to that Ovechkin story from a few years ago? Reasonably. Yeah. Oh, isn't that a neat thing? Except for people in Pittsburgh who would not have. I can guarantee you they wouldn't have. They might not have.
Starting point is 00:10:51 They might not have, but I didn't see it. That's okay. They're supposed to hate him. Yes. They're supposed to. So, I don't know. I was just sort of like, well, that's very interesting. Isn't he very good at goal scoring?
Starting point is 00:11:03 And now the narrative around Matthews is the same. He's not. Everyone's just like, man, it's fine that you're doing this. What I love is the crowd is just, they're so mad. Sorry, go ahead. No, I was going to say, the crowd, one of their big arguments to troll these fans is the Wikipedia entry about 50 and 50. Because when you read the first two lines, I'll read it out to everyone. The phrase 50 goals in 50 games refers to the act of scoring 50 goals within the first 50 games of a National Hockey League season.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Scoring 50 goals in 50 or fewer NHL games is a rare achievement. The NHL defines 50 goals in 50 games to mean that a player scores 50 goals in the team's first 50 games of the season, not the player's first 50. Okay. The feat has been achieved by eight times by five different guys. Is it the same? Did he do it from the beginning of the season? No, he did not. But 50 goals in 50 NHL games is pretty good.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And I don't know. I don't really care if it makes it into the Wikipedia article. It's just really nice to watch the best goal scorer that's ever played for the Toronto Maple Leafs score goals. It hasn't been done since one of the top three players in the sports history did it in 1996. it guys it's really impressive that he's doing and what i know listen i'm gonna ask this question like i can't believe we're that big yeah it's it's impressive but it's not 50 but it's because it happened in toronto guys and you know that we're that we're the death star we're the evil empire we're the dead no we don't win but neither does the empire the empire the empire like listen
Starting point is 00:12:51 the empire won they kind of they won their first round pick and they got darth vader and that was great but they never actually completed the goal of dominating the galaxy it's true and the least have not done that either no um so i feel like i you know i understand why people are are trolling i understand why people don't like this but the reality is you can suck on it because they want i respect the people who are trolling i wouldn't you do what do you want to do a little bit of the same thing like if this happened to somebody in winnipeg like if if winnipeg hadn't been stupid and um and actually held on to patrick line and he'd scored at the pace that he should have been instead of trying to make him play defense you idiot um uh maybe as a leaf fan you're in there
Starting point is 00:13:30 going okay i'm gonna troll this guy a little bit because it's fun but don't like if you're a leaf fan like let it go you got matthews let it go just literally just it's fine i don't i don't know i don't understand it man i don't there were the people who were trolling i was like okay cheeky clever funny but then you would read them and i'm like you genuinely believe this like you don't this is fine and i noticed it coming from habs fans in particular and oilers fans in particular and i feel like it's the perfect storm of fan bases um the habs have a long established rivalry with the toronto maple leafs the oilers bizarrely think they do uh for some reason okay mcdavid versus matthews david versus matthews i also think i also think oiler fans are the most likely fans
Starting point is 00:14:21 in the entire league if there's going to be a team uh fight for futility it's edmonton and toronto oh definitely like teams that should be good but haven't been definitely oh you know knee landers had a good couple weeks fuck you dry sidles better what yo but i think leaf fans do that to to oiler fans all the time do they i i believe you that they do i think that but i think we have one guy on the show who does that no all i said was matthews is the best player in the world right now and he is the best player in the world right now did we have oh adam yeah i was right i was right and that was before he took off like he was scoring a lot but he wasn't scoring like this no so there was so it's habs and oilers but it's also because uh i i feel like
Starting point is 00:15:06 those two fan bases are married to the accomplishment maurice richard was the first to score 50 and 50 gretzky was the best to score that's a good point right so maurice richard first gretzky 50 and 39 which is preposterous so that's why those two fan bases are the most uh uh uh ravenous about it huh that's a good okay i know i make those i'm into that you know they're protective and i get it yeah um but i don't i don't really care uh habs aren't going to the playoffs they're an absolute fucking non-factor this year they are yeah just watch you know like and like i mean i'm not saying that i don't think montreal will never be good again or whatever um and then with with edmonton i think it's it's just it's tough because they ultimately the
Starting point is 00:15:57 matthews distraction is a distraction because they're they're deeply concerned and should be about the team's holes going into the playoffs i mean really that's what it is i mean it's like Why talk about how iffy the Oilers are when you can, you know, dunk on some Leaf fans? Honestly, if I'm an Oiler fan, I'd take that. I guess. I just, I don't know. I feel like I just don't have the energy to. Well, you got 19 minutes of energy for your LFR.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Only about eight of the 19. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Come on, man. Sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Calm down. Sorry. no but like to just like like established i don't like the history of the minnesota wild but like i have a hard time going out of my way to be like ah wild fucked up ah here's a you know oh matt dumba set the record for goals in a season by a defenseman and i go nope no he did not what he literally did it's a franchise record what are you talking about no no the other one was uh oh matthews with a his historic goal this historic 57th it's bullshit that's not historic lots of players have scored more than that it's like what it's historic because it's a franchise record for
Starting point is 00:17:17 a franchise that's been around for 100 years yeah what are you talking about and they just i don't know everyone's just no and what i am excited for is what record is matthew's gonna break this week that people will simply say no to is he up for anything he could hit 60 yeah yeah that's not a record but it's a right well every goal he scores is a record for the leafs i'm excited to find out how 60 is not 60 cj um cj tweeted on saturday night is 70 on the table so it made me think of you i was like i don't know maybe somebody here said it first it's dude it's listen sports interaction they did put it up yeah they put it up and the odds uh here i got him i got him i got him hang on the odds uh got a little bit more likely that he does it yep because he
Starting point is 00:18:06 friggin scored two goals in one game hang on i gotta find it i thought i had it and i do not have it all he has to do is score slightly above a goal a game which he has done for stretches many times yeah it's not like it's that hard you know what i mean jesse do you mind pulling the odds it's not like he's got 20 to go yeah he's got 12 yeah it's hard yeah what is it 12 and 10 now it is the dangle special i'm talking about going back to your uh your bet that's on sports interaction it's the 70 goals dangle special you can go and the you're betting on the exact outcome of austin matthews's goal total if he finishes with exactly 70 goals it's uh times 35 odds so what is so let me let me ask you this so whatever you bet multiply that by 35 and that's
Starting point is 00:19:02 what you win okay i like that that's a lot so let me ask you this i think austin matthews likes round numbers oh yeah like he's not like nhl players like their numbers like madano wants 1500 still to this day even though he had 1499 in terms of games played so bad so tell me still be in the gym if i was him no tell me the deal tell me this tell me this what are the chances because he let me i'm going through austin matthews history here by the way he's a point away from 100 yep the most he'd ever had in a season leading up to this was 80 this season is uh ridiculous he's not the only one i'd like to know what the uh he was on pace for last two years and a half yeah because like he had 66 and 52 last year and then he had um the year before that he he only he missed
Starting point is 00:19:50 12 games and still had 80 points wow 70 not 100 yeah but he did not have 100 you know i don't think he was on pace for 100 but yeah it's it's pretty nuts and and i don't know i'm looking at the Leafs too here this is they just hit 100 points on Saturday night against Montreal it's so perfect it's so like oh it's lovely oh my god it's so perfect that's the sixth time they've ever done that in history and like first in the division is like not even on the table no it's funny when I look at the NHL standings um you know because with the salary cap for parity we have four teams on the eastern side that have 100 points or more four already all eight playoff teams in the east might hit 100 that's right and yeah washington needs five wins they can do that in the next 10
Starting point is 00:20:33 games because that's that's the that's the lowest like they're the ones that might fuck it up for the entire eastern conference it might just be them right so if the what if the caps don't do it the next closest team right now the caps have 90 points the next closest team is the islanders 15 points behind them so if you want to talk parody with me i wanted i want to know get out I want to know how Capitals fans are feeling about that. Because based on the standings from Christmas, this should have been wrapped up a long time ago. This should have been wrapped up.
Starting point is 00:21:06 And it's very unlikely that the Islanders make it. It's not impossible. It's not impossible. We've seen dumber things happen. I watched the Jays blow a six-point lead yesterday. It's impossible, Steve. It's impossible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:20 I do want every team to get 100 points, though. So, that would be delicious. Yeah, you're right. It's impossible. It's impossible. I'm looking at the standings. I was like, oh, the Islanders in their last 10 games have the exact same record as the Caps.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Never mind. Yeah, no. It's not going to happen. That's why when you brought it up last episode, I was like, I'm going to have to check the standings on that because I don't think that's true. No, you guys. Tampa could miss the playoffs. Theoretically.
Starting point is 00:21:45 That is a thing that could happen. They have not clinched a playoff spot yet. So, is it likely? it so here's what's weird according to the nhl website because i i got some standings wrong because i looked at sportsnet's website um it was boston that was in third place not tampa and sports that was wrong about that but now i'm confused because um tampa's points percentage is higher than boston's but i'm assuming it's because tampa's lost more games in overtime Boston has more wins than Tampa.
Starting point is 00:22:23 They are tied at... They are a point behind. Oh, that's what it is. Tampa has more points than Boston. I read that wrong. I thought that they were one point ahead of Boston, and they've lost more. That's how fucked the NHL is.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah, because of the... For the standings. Those OT wins, or OT losses they got. They got eight. In regulation... 96-95. So, objectively, Tampa has a worse record than Boston, and they're ahead of them.
Starting point is 00:22:45 That's actually kind of funny. Yeah, if you count OT shootout losses as losses... overtime losses are losses well then they're 44 and 28 you know should the nhl go by points or points percentage i think i think what you do is you get rid of the pity point and you go by wins and losses i'd love for them just to be a wins loss sport well there's that but like purely from a a um no just a display no no no no do you know how fucking confusing that'll be to explain to non-hockey fans what points percentage is right you're a hundred percent you're a hundred percent games back is is hard enough games back is hard enough if you're listening to this right now and
Starting point is 00:23:24 you're like what i get it yeah you do you're listening to a hockey podcast yeah you do yeah try explaining that to your to your mom who like my mom who's math illiterate and just barely understands the icing my dad would not understand that the argument against but wins and losses in the nhl which i totally get and probably is probably the right idea is that once you reach ot it's so not like regular hockey it's not five on five it's three on three and especially the shootout that's not even the sport close that's a little gimmick at the end how are you awarding a full win for something that's a gimmick you know so i get the points thing it's like 90 of a win yeah which is yeah so i don't i don't in the end like i don't mind the one point for the ot
Starting point is 00:24:08 i hate it i think it's stupid win is a win is the 3-2-1 system seems to be the best but it doesn't change the standings that much no and that makes things more complicated yeah this is the thing okay the reason it should be wins and loss even if it's a gimmick is the game has to end at some point right and hockey no the game does have to end so you have to go to the the gimmick thing and that's fine because hockey's not popular enough like baseball or basketball to just go forever you know i mean like basketball games can go forever and hockey knowing hockey it's like well we're gonna play trap in the overtime if we don't put a time limit on this that's what they would do so i think i'll take i'll take the 90 percent win with the thing and but i still think
Starting point is 00:24:48 if you made it to overtime and you lost you still lost right you have to end the hockey game i get that for broadcast schedules you got to do that but you don't need to award the point there's nothing that forces you have to go to gimmick i don't want the gimmick either i hate the shootout to but i don't want why are we awarding a team that objectively lost the game right there's no real argument for that other than while they lost in the shootout who fucking cares they lost you have to go with what is your sister sport right so what is our sister sport baseball is not the sister sport of hockey no baseball can do whatever it wants because there's nothing else really like baseball that's a good point uh basketball is not the sister sport of hockey because the scores are
Starting point is 00:25:28 like 100 to 120 like or something like that yeah um the sister sport of hockey in terms of scoring is soccer yeah soccer does not have continuous overtime soccer has ties and hockey used to have ties and so but hockey decided okay we're not going to be like our sister sport we're going to be baseball now or we're no we're going to be basketball because because hockey people they have wins and losses see if you want it if you want to get rid of that by the way ties should count for if you brought ties back ties should count for no points i should oh oh neither team gets anything that's right because because here's what happened in nhl overtimes of the past first off it was five on five it sucked second it was five minutes long third um they'd be like well at
Starting point is 00:26:18 least we got a point so in a regular season game you'd have teams like you'd have robbie for Torix New Jersey Devils playing trap in the in the overtime because at least they got a point wow we got it we grinded a point out of it we could feel good about a tie which you cannot feel good about no you can't stop feeling good about ties do that though
Starting point is 00:26:36 what you need to do what you need to do is if you want it you want competition to go up in overtime and make it exciting unless you win you get nothing I you know what the the boring overtimes are few and far between for me for me it's because it's not
Starting point is 00:26:52 broke don't it's four on four no four on four sucks three on three sorry three on three it's three on three you count on the goalie yeah i guess it's three on three so that's what i'm saying though it's it rarely sucks but what i'm saying is if you wanted to bring back the tie and actually actually make it like it's sister sport yeah drop the point for the tie i don't want to bring back the tie i i kind of think it's fine i kind of think it's fine the only thing i would tweak is 10 minutes of ot take out the shootout but what if it ends in a time what are you which it would then you keep going when you make the time no you can't do that that can't be a rule that can't you cannot do that you know that you know that for broadcast schedules they
Starting point is 00:27:31 cannot do that well okay i've been to a 21 round shootout in person and i know it didn't save time oh that's that's rare oh so i went to the one i think it would be rare if you extend the time period that they're allowed to play i guarantee you coaches will clog it up and slow it down then it then it just becomes like a more of a mini game short amount of time i already solved no points i already solved give it to me give it to me in three on three overtime coaches are banned no you'd never have that coaches are banned never not i think so they were getting i tell you what overtime cannot begin until the coach is out of the building okay what about the other coaches what do you mean there's assistant coaches there's like four guys on the bench i didn't
Starting point is 00:28:20 stutter jesse all of them all of them okay what about the equipment guys yeah you're gonna ban them too also gone if your stick breaks fuck yeah you're done yeah you're done i was gonna say the nhl's overtime rules to me mirror a little bit of the nfls in that when the nfl in the regular season when you're done um you it's you play till somebody scores if you score a touchdown the game's over you score a field goal the game keeps going and then after that it's uh next person wins and then if nobody scores the end of ot it's a tie and it's that seems so far from uh like a football game in that you play out the time and there's there's possession that goes on sometimes you're punting away for strategies and in that when like one score can finish a football game like we saw
Starting point is 00:29:06 with the chiefs and the bills in the playoffs where um the bills didn't get to touch the ball yeah to win one of the best football games of all time they never got to possess the ball in overtime that reminds me or more of uh the nhl's rules where it's kind of it's so far from the actual 60 minutes that happens beforehand you know and that hey here's some unique rules that don't exist in the regular form of the play the gameplay where we're deciding the wins and losses but we get to this tie scenario where it's out of the realm that's kind of what's happening with the nhl where it's hey we're taking you out of this regular gameplay scenario putting into this other world where we have these new rules and go go solve it there here's why that's a concerning
Starting point is 00:29:47 comparison football has by far the worst overtime in sports yeah easily yeah that's so the nhl does not want to be that right but that's where they're kind of at right now where we're in a situation where it's hey we're taking away from what we just did for the entire right for three periods and here's a new thing the nfl it's it's the same where hey you play this whole game and now you're doing this thing where hey one guy scores that's it what i feel like football could solve so many of its uh issues with like with whining about overtime by just making it so that you can't win the game on a field goal and uh this this coming season they they have changed those rules really you can't win the game on a field goal so uh going into next year they can do it from like
Starting point is 00:30:31 60 yards now yeah why is why are you allowed yeah you can't win it on a field goal you can on the first possession you can't win on a field goal uh like that that's been like that way for a couple years oh i didn't know that yeah you can win on a touchdown but if you score a field goal then the next team gets the ball back and they get the ball and you can go doesn't that make sense but yeah this year they're changing the ot rules coming into this season so it'll be like both teams get to possess the ball and that's i mean that just that to me makes perfect sense but yeah okay like the way you're like oh they have the worst rules like i look i look at the nhl in the same way like it's so not hockey when we're having a shootout to decide the winner it's you
Starting point is 00:31:05 put put aside how exciting three on three is because it's great it's a great product it's also it's a gimmick yeah like when when math it's a better gimmick though it's a way better yeah oh yeah but like the all-star game is three on three because the all-star game doesn't matter which means ot doesn't matter yeah when no that's that is not a fair compare there there's no link at all why no steve why i was gonna let it i was gonna also yeah come on there's like there's a false equivalency why why come on this that's a false equivalency and you know that argument because they're they're not the same the all-star game as a premise doesn't matter yes the game is for points so instantly that's a false equivalency it's they're both three on
Starting point is 00:31:55 three that doesn't mean and they're both not real hockey steve yes it is real hockey what people play three on three all the time pond hockey what do we what do we all come from What is it the National Pond Hockey League? What are you talking about? I don't know what you guys are trying to argue. What I'm trying to argue is that Steve is making a false equivalency argument for the All-Star game versus overtime. One is worth nothing unless you want to lease on a new Chevrolet at the end of it
Starting point is 00:32:23 because you won the MVP. Or you're talking about three-on-three overtime, which has actual points at stake and it has playoff implications. They are not the same. Playoff implications. Anything that does not exist in the playoffs is not real hockey. again i i'm not really sure that isn't that's not i don't think that's what you're trying to say about the all-star yeah now we're changing the argument else no like what what i'm well
Starting point is 00:32:46 i suppose i'm changing the argument yeah and and here we have twitter three on three overtime yeah it's not real hockey it isn't it isn't if it was it'd be Yeah, I don't it's not like I don't consider it the same as what you're playing like before overtime. Yeah, I think five on five on five hockey is the hockey we know as the sport as the game that where you decide who wins and loses. And then when there's a tie at the end, we do say it's a different type of hockey. Yeah, and it's a hockey that's there to end the game because we need to end the game for broadcast. This isn't rugby and rugby sevens. This is that they are the playoff games broadcasted.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Yes. Well, then what are we doing? I don't know. I don't know what you mean. No, we got to get it off the air. Capitals, game two, Capitan scores a double overtime winner. We all go home happy. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:33:43 That goal should have never happened. They should have just cut the game off. Now you want a different conversation where we're talking about broadcast rights and getting the news on at 10 p.m. That's what it is. During the playoffs, there's just no news. No, but during this small period of time in the window on the calendar and the TV schedule, they make exceptions for a small amount.
Starting point is 00:34:00 small window of two months no but you're just talking about how tv works so we're explaining to you like the basics of television scheduling steve like you can't argue that i love when you guys explain broadcasting yeah because it's not why did i didn't think we'd be here where we need to do an explainer to steve dangle on how television i think it is steve i think what it is it comes down to is they are the it is hockey it's just it is a gimmick to end the game it is just like listen sudden death is a gimmick to end the game that's what i was trying to say sudden death is a gimmick at what other point in any sport would sudden death apply so you're what you're but we're all okay with sudden death overtime in any sport you know
Starting point is 00:34:41 it's really cool the nba's g league uh oh no i think it's their summer league their summer league enacted sudden death overtime in basketball so wow yeah it's so it's cool as shit see that'd be fun next basket wins between fucking professional basketball players it's awesome that's sick yeah look it up on youtube it's awesome this is what this what i'm saying is that like it's there's nothing wrong with the gimmick like is that real basketball no no clearly not so i will i will grant you that is it's not real hockey in its traditional form yeah i heard you that's where they test things out though yeah that's where the new rules come in from is summer league so so what i would say is i agree with you the three on three is not quote unquote traditional hockey
Starting point is 00:35:25 but you have to have some sort of gimmick to end the game so you don't but you do but you do but ultimately you do yeah we get that see and that's what i'm saying that's where we started bring back ties and no points what's up is there a more efficient way to run the nhls over time how the uh as opposed to how they currently have it i think i think you're absolutely more efficient idea five minutes five minutes and um you know same rules tie tie no points that that would motivate people if you were like gunpoint steve gun to the earth you gun to the earth steve you have to tell me where this conversation started or we kill it doesn't matter you couldn't figure it out i'd be dead listen we're just trying to figure stuff out i think that's figure what out i don't
Starting point is 00:36:15 remember where that started no that's the crux of this conversation what's better overtime rules for the nhl like is what we have right now the best no it's not where it started yes because we're looking at the standings and we're looking at it was boston and tampa and how tampa has uh more losses more losses they have a loss record more games they objectively have had a worse record than boss how do we fix it's unfair that boston is not in third boston should be ahead of tampa and i would say that for any team by the way do you think i want the leafs to play boss in the first round hell fucking know I don't a sick
Starting point is 00:36:44 disgusting despicable part of me wants it so what would you guys do what's the what's the answer I think the answer I think we got the answer I think we solved world hunger and
Starting point is 00:36:52 we also found out that it's five on five and although I do love three on three that's like you want to do five but I'm making a concession to Steve who says it's not real hot
Starting point is 00:37:02 no it's fun but like just because it's fun doesn't make it hot yeah let's just just decide the game with like a game of paintball so take out the ice and They just run around, set up a bunch of walls.
Starting point is 00:37:14 So it's five on five, but it's five minutes long. You have to end the game in a timely fashion in the regular season. And no points if it's tied. You get zero points. As the host, did you have 15 minutes allotted for this? No, I don't care. Did you even write this in? No, no.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I'm curious to know how you adapt to these situations. Listen, we can either do this, or we can talk about how embarrassing Leaf fans have been about Matthew Nice. No. I reject the premise You have ultimate control over the NHL right now We come to you And we ask you
Starting point is 00:37:47 We need to change the overtime rules What are you going with I fire Gary Bettman Before I make that decision He's already been fired And then I go Oh shit I gotta do my job I switch to
Starting point is 00:38:03 10 minutes of 3 on 3 And if the game is not decided by the end of that i still do a shootout but there will be significantly fewer shootout i don't disagree with that there we go there you go okay you say that nonsense again matthew nice yes potentially returning to college yes um which is his right am i am i wrong on that yes it is okay all right so leaf fans there's a couple things this is why this this is why you're embarrassing yourselves as your friend and person among you who has embarrassed myself many times here's why you're embarrassing yourself number one matthew nize is from arizona yes coming back
Starting point is 00:38:43 to that in a second let's talk about this whole thing brian burke permanently damaged toronto maple leaf fans when he was on sportsnet he permanently damaged toronto maple leaf fans when he was on sports no no where is this coming from just shut up and let me say it guys no brian burke said what he said when matthew's contract is up he's gonna go sign with the coyotes did he not he said that did he not i would have got the sixth year because uh because when this five-year deal is up he's signing with arizona as if the sixth year would have stopped him would have you know so whatever okay fine so now ever since then leaf fans have been like oh my god it's two more years this is the third year of his deal right we had two more years and he's
Starting point is 00:39:23 gonna be an arizona coyote he's gonna go play at asu no he's not and and the whole thing about this so so you got leaf fans reacting like this this morning oh he probably wants to go back to college and never be a leaf because he wants to sign in arizona no no is no who are you reading everybody on twitter yeah everybody i just told you i just i just told you on twitter i said this is not news this is fans i'm talking about the fans i know but i think you're talking about exactly four people No, not. You should look. Just search Nyes Leafs.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Okay. Search it up. K-N-I-E-S for anybody needing to know how it's spelled. K-N-I-E-S. Nyes Leafs. Stop worrying about him signing in Arizona. Number two. You guys ever had an agent before?
Starting point is 00:40:12 No. Okay. All right. I've had an agent. You know what agents do? They negotiate. And what Matthew Nyes is doing right now with his agent is he's negotiating with the Leafs. and and you know how he's doing it he's doing it through a hockey insiders who know his agent
Starting point is 00:40:27 and who are tweeting well he's leaning towards staying in school whether or not that's true it came from the agent and the agent says that why does the agent say that you know what the agent says that because they're not gonna be like you know what we love the leafs and we want to be on the leafs yeah okay matthew nye's worked his entire career to not play for the toronto maple leafs okay i could i could accept that he might want to go back for his education totally get that but i'm not going to accept that from his agent who's literally there to lie to your face until he gets the best deal for his client that's literally what the agent's job they are there to advocate for their client yeah we gotta we gotta stop this we gotta stop oh he's gonna go
Starting point is 00:41:07 to arizona for what and play in front of 20 people like are you kidding me here's the thing he can sign a rookie he can sign a rookie deal here and if he plays well guess what he gets like millions of dollars in uh other shit you gotta you gotta differentiate the information that you're getting right and it there is a trade-off right so agents or sorry insiders have to tweet information that agents tell them because it's the sources that they have but that you have to think about it when when you're when you see an insider tweet something sometimes you have to look at it and go okay who does this benefit that's always the question you gotta to ask and it took me years to figure that out the um it's not reading literacy i don't know
Starting point is 00:41:52 it's media it might be media literacy social media literacy social media literacy and there's nothing wrong with not knowing this but i am telling you right now if it came from the agent which this particular report obviously did or if it comes from nhl head hot office which so many reports obviously do you gotta take it with a grain of salt you know and i and listen i don't know what matt nyes wants to do as much as the next guy we learned about media literacy in school and but it's different though it was so different different it was um like red dead redemption double barrel shotgun you gotta fold the gun in half and reload it every time when they give you ridiculous information you had time to sit back and go all right who is the source why are they
Starting point is 00:42:43 giving this information and now it's just star wars laser laser machine guns and people just get the information instantly react instantly there's no thought behind it whatsoever and we all lose our minds we all collect that sounded like are you okay are you okay that that sounded like it hurt like a lot tap the okay oh okay it did sound like it hurt yeah it didn't hurt at all oh okay good so that that or you got a better poker face than me you're making a good point yeah it's no like people just and i've done it i do it too i like to think i'm getting better i am i am a recovering social media overreactor and sometimes i have we follow me too i fall off the wagon i think the key is not to tweet the key is look at cj yesterday yeah man these blue
Starting point is 00:43:35 jays look great blow a six one lead immediately the blue jays were undefeated before chris johnston decided to open his friggin yap way to go cj he's got a history juggernaut moment oh he said the blue jays are a wagon get it going jesse get out the old t-shirt machine i did my research i've come back from the uh research den on the twitter twitter rights on what they're saying about matthew nice adam's not wrong in that there is a lot of discussion about his his education there's a lot of people making fun of the education part of it that's what it's it's become it's not great when you look it up you know it's a lot of people making bad jokes on twitter about a guy going back to school and hockey and getting a fake degree and that sort of stuff it's not fun
Starting point is 00:44:26 like and also i would recommend nobody go look at this stuff also let me throw this at you this guy is an ncaa free agent or not free agents or he's drafted by the leaps but like this is realistically he's not austin matthews he's not even austin matthews of 16 17 this guy is potentially at best at best in his career peak tyler bozak i i honestly like okay whoa whoa whoa College free agents. He's not a college free agent. Sorry, college players. It's different. He's a second round pick.
Starting point is 00:44:58 We're worried that he's going to be a college free agent. No, Adam. Here's where Leaf fans are losing me. They're losing me on a couple fronts. Number one, making fun of him for going back to school. Yeah, that's idiot. Stop that. You're dumb. A lot of people doing that. Cheap shots that are
Starting point is 00:45:14 nonsense. A lot of eggs. A lot of, yes, a lot of Twitter. Also, number two, guys literally shut the fuck up for one moment for one moment they have not lost in regulation for 16 days shut the fuck up and people are like literally they're fine people are saying fine whether he joins them or doesn't literally shut the fuck up so what i want to throw at you is that people like can you believe he would do this to do this yes well yes i also guarantee he'll get in the lineup.
Starting point is 00:45:46 What are you talking about? I also want to say this. If he's not fucking ready, you don't want him here. This is a Stanley Cup contending team. If he doesn't want to play yet, if he's not comfortable yet,
Starting point is 00:45:56 or if he never wants to play here at all, like, listen, you're the Toronto Maple Leafs. You will always find very highly skilled players that want to be here. Do you,
Starting point is 00:46:06 let's say, let's say Matt Nyes is Darth Vader. And his whole goal is to bring down the Toronto Maple Leafs reputation. would it be so damaging to your ego everybody collectively i'm asking you for him to leave the toronto maple leafs the team that drafted him as a free agent eventually and go inside with the
Starting point is 00:46:26 coyotes would that wound you so it killed adam fox's career like come on guys like i just like relax stop being pick me about this this is a lot you're watching austin matthews tear up the history books and you're worried about matt nye's playing fourth line minutes are you fucking kidding i am the freak out guy did if i was a dishonest person i would rant about this for you know how easy it would be for me to pull 10 minutes about this topic out of my ass you would have woken up early told producer drew to sit by the laptop and you had a video yeah up this morning if you wanted to fake shit just for views 100 you'd have this up right now 100 and a better youtuber than i would be doing yes like a hundred percent that's such a good point if jake paul of
Starting point is 00:47:15 leafs youtube existed i could easily be like here's my 10 minutes on matthew at eight minutes and one second just so i can get the mid-roll at like i would do eight minutes and two seconds to throw you off the scent i would i man you would threaten to fight matthew nyes in a boxing match i would explain in the longest way he was drafted in the second round i would explain in the longest way possible his numbers from this season not after not before you haven't told me to like and subscribe a billion times a thousand you would explain every single bonus scenario that's out there in contracts if he signs it for next year and where he might play in every situation line up because if he doesn't like the leafs it means he doesn't like me no and it means he hates my family
Starting point is 00:48:08 and you know what this all means followed by abrupt cutoff for a raid shadow legends ad yeah like download the app today download the app today and uh i would i would tell you about where he was born i would tell you about the school he went to i would highlight all the tweets i would uh i would have you thinking that dragger friggin sponsored the thing but in reality but in reality i i cannot bring myself to care because it doesn't matter it's to me like honestly yo what if he gets here and he sucks he's i think i think he's a significant part of the leaf's future sure but in the context of this stretch run it's a footnote if they get him cool if they don't get him fine like it might legitimately be the better thing to have happen
Starting point is 00:49:04 if he goes back to school for another year yeah or or signs a deal but it's after this season and then he's got a chance to make the team out of camp like oh if the leafs have an injury what do they do what do you mean what do they do they have other guys they have the abrazazi is can't even get in the lineup right now clifford can't even get in the lineup right now nick robertson low-key is doing a much better job in the uh american hockey league he's doing really well they have other guys fucking chill now the yelly screamy man again uh oh steve he does this and he does that you the shit i could do if i was an asshole but i'm not here's what probably is going on and remember at one point mitch marner was going to make 14 million dollars for the columbus
Starting point is 00:49:49 blue jackets agents say stuff it's what negotiation is so if i'm matthew nise's agent you're kyle dubas tell me you want matthew nise i want matthew here wait put the glasses i don't know my thick frame today but i want matthew nise okay well as matthew nise's representative we want full bonuses uh in the elc i understand that but i can't give you that okay well then i think uh that's a shame i think matthew is leaning on going back to school wow do you know the army of burners i'm going to unleash on you two of us is burners can you imagine it'd be like literally the second coming of brian colangelo remember what happened with him yes i do it dubas doesn't really like his grandmother doesn't really have twitter
Starting point is 00:50:38 it's just him it's just him it's because she i love he has time to maintain her account she's always tweeting about the refs he has time to maintain no i that would be a great plot twist but this is my point right like if you're his agent and they won't give you the bonuses well then you just say well he's leaning on going back to school and then and then what i would do is jesse the insider i would say hey jesse you know what you know what you know what matt nyes is doing he's he's leaning on going back and what would you then do with that information i was gonna say he could also genuinely just want to go back for one more year and play hockey yeah or that or that like that could also be an option but jesse what would you do if i told you that
Starting point is 00:51:13 thank you yeah this is simple simple it's nothing steve i think you should care more about this i want a 10 minute video on my desk i in and out i cannot bring myself to listen you've seen the stuff i've been able to bring myself to care about uh and this is four on four three on three real hockey yeah and like you did care about that at some point like if if all i did was like literally just sit at home and make youtube videos instead of leaving the house and coming to see you guys and stuff like that i would make a video about this but i i wouldn't i would not be able to come up with a hardcore opinion that oh he has to sign or he's a moron like i just couldn't bring myself are we hard up up front dude they're literally fine they have not lost in regulation
Starting point is 00:52:03 since they lost to montreal two saturdays ago if matthew nyes was the second coming of henrik lundqvist i might be like okay we really need him to sign right but he's i think he's going to be very good i don't it's going to be a very good i don't know uh forward piece for the leafs going forward but yeah like it's also what what he would have to do if he signed with the leafs is a tough ask he would have to come in get inserted into a top 12 that's doing perfectly fine and play his first professional hockey at a level that's better than anything close to what he's ever played it so who are the left wingers on the Leafs right now Michael Bunting, Ilya Mikheyev, Pierre Engvall and we're not going to count the fourth line he's not going to be playing on the fourth line
Starting point is 00:52:52 so who do you take out yeah he's got to play better than one of those three which uh i think he will be better certainly but asking him to just step in and do that and let habs fans get ready to eat this up he like he's not cole caulfield cole caulfield went 22nd and he should have definitely gone higher yes um and you know but short and all that yeah um like he's not i can't i can't even believe we're still talking about it yeah i think we're i think we've circled i think we've exhausted matthew nye's conversation i would love today i would yeah what's what's next adam let's do it we got a little malkin uh well yeah okay so you guys saw the the the borretsky sort of backwards face wash thing and then malkin um kind of the stick out of
Starting point is 00:53:49 his hand slashes the stick out of his hands took it takes a big old swing and then and then hits him in the face as listen malkin's a tough guy i like people people he's tough but he's violent yeah well yeah i guess i guess that's the way to say it i would like okay the reason i refer to him as violence because there are other players in the nhl who commit infractions and stuff like that malkin loses control red mist red mist we've seen this many times over the years that's not a guy in control that's not a guy in control absolutely not that's uh that's a body walking around reacting to its surroundings without a brain which can happen in hockey which can happen and like listen we've all been that mad i'm sure but uh like he got he got a double minor for this like i'm sorry
Starting point is 00:54:41 that's such a joke so my problem with the play is the refereeing uh reaction to it because they they they give mark borieski a penalty on it first of all they give him a slashing call for really nothing and then malkin gets a high sticking call so that's what he got yeah so in the moment he got a four minute uh double minor for high sticking he did not get um a subsequent penalty for making another player bleed which is in the rule book he did not get a slashing penalty for two hands sticking mark in the stomach which is very clear uh everybody saw it and he doesn't get a game misconduct for intent to injure all of those things are in the rule book and none of them were called they're making it up they're making it up it was disgrace to refereeing and i hope that
Starting point is 00:55:28 like our only hope right now is the department of player safety in the end so he has a hearing so so we're fucked he's not oh he doesn't he has a hearing it was a hearing it was announced this morning that malkin has a hearing so we'll see if the department of player safety is the final uh decision on this and they actually make good what happened in this in this situation because that's at least two games i think and in the moment it should have been a game misconduct plus absolutely plus nashville should have had a four minute power play instead of just their two minute power play if boreetsky and penguins ended up winning that game in overtime too yeah if boreetsky had any front teeth malcolm would have knocked them all out it's is it there's blood all
Starting point is 00:56:08 over the ice and it would have been even more gruesome if the dude who he hit had teeth so it's funny they're so they give him high stick do they give him four minutes they give him a double minor for nice okay all right i just want to check but there's no slashing call there's no uh making a bleed call there's no intent to injure call the guy bleed call is the four minutes no just a double minor for high sticking but that is what that's the double minor though no no it was just an aggressive it was just a double minor for high sticking the they would have had to add on uh two more minutes and then two more minutes it should have been like six minutes five minute major for cross it should have been a game misconduct exactly oh my god what a joke yeah
Starting point is 00:56:45 what a joke i this sport i it it tries so hard to be sorry did the ref wants so hard yes because sometimes you see sometimes you see that the refs didn't see something and they're like i think we're gonna have to try to do this to manage the situation this is at the end of the second period as well right and where are the refs here i don't see not i'm not i'm not trying to no i understand that guy what is the it happens here he's probably tracking the puck it happens right there okay but it does happen right in front but it's zero seconds left in the second you can't you can't surely you can rectify this during the intermission what's wrong i don't understand what's wrong with sending both teams to the dressing room and being like we're
Starting point is 00:57:29 going to decide this give us a few minutes but i think it's that they had to award penalties they had to do something that's why i don't know why there's a thing with nhl where it's like with goals it doesn't like the instantaneous call you know you can you can read you can review it yeah with with penalties it's like we if we don't make a call now we forever hold your peace i don't understand that and that's a well-respected veteran in this league too and mark boreatsky and and malcolm too and well yeah and malcolm but like what he did happen to mark boreatsky fair and if you don't even if he doesn't get like the you've been here a while treatment then what are we what are we doing here what hope does anyone have i'm sorry that's that has to be games
Starting point is 00:58:14 how many games i would think at least two like so there's uh unfortunately there's the comparison to matthew so already people are just going to completely tune us out he's the baseline this year i get that well and okay that what matthews did to uh rasmus doline should not be in the game shouldn't be in the game shouldn't be allowed i got upset and i think a lot of people got upset with the two games because there's an abundance of evidence of similar infractions not getting two games now that we know it's two games okay was it done with similar force to what Matthews did to Darlene I would say this is less force yeah but this is 100 but it's also directly to the face causing an injury could Matthews have caused an injury against Rasmus Darlene absolutely
Starting point is 00:59:10 he did not this he's spitting blood in front of the ref yeah this one caused more injury but there was a double minor on the play uh i bet he gets he has a hearing so i think he's gonna get something i think it's two that's my guess i think it's one one adam i think it's two i think if you if you're given matthews two and it's very clear that like why matthews got it deserved it then if that's what your two is that that should be a two oh it should be it should but what would be the difference right like i understand listen i understand i don't want to get tinfoil hattie about about that like i understand i understand that you know lee fans feel like hey we've seen shit that's way worse since then and it got no call but if we're if
Starting point is 00:59:56 we're defense and prosecution i'm the penguins i'm going up there i'm going listen he was penalized on the play he got a double minor why does that matter by the way it shouldn't it shouldn't but i was penalized on the play it's a double minor in the third period because all four minutes were the third period and it's a star player everything i just said shouldn't matter uh penalties penalties in the game should probably factor in but to me only if it's a major in a misconduct but that's what it should have been i wasn't yeah yeah i agree like people talk about well there was a penalty on the play it's a two-minute minor yeah it should have been should have been slashing and then the intent to injure and he should have been it should have been five in a
Starting point is 01:00:43 game you know so you got i get i would add on like if i'm department of player safety i gotta add on the game it's conduct that you should have had and the referee's mistake so there's one so there's at least one game then you get one game because you get suspended for the action there's two two guys matthews was ejected was he not yes i believe i was because yeah we watched him walk out of the winter class i also was pretty late or is it bunding that was ejected oh yeah there's a Two games is fair. And you know what? If you're the Penguins, you're probably looking at that and going,
Starting point is 01:01:18 good, that means a veteran player who, you know, has been deep in the playoffs many times gets a couple games off. Like, you're not, like, Pittsburgh's not in danger of losing their playoff spot. Like, no one gets hurt. The NHL's got literally nothing. That's why I think it's going to be two, because Peros is going to look at this and go,
Starting point is 01:01:34 what are the implications? If there's no implications for Pittsburgh, which there isn't, really, then it's like, okay, then give him two games, then he gets a rest, and la-di-da. It's great. yeah and crosby hauling off and i can't remember who he punched in the face recently i was looking for that video too i don't know about suspension but it's i think we can all agree it's something that should be taken out of the game like who is that
Starting point is 01:01:58 someone on the top wilson no it's definitely not tom wilson no no it's 20 something yeah no tom wilson would have uh turned him into a bug mark on the windshield and it would have been an international he threw a pretty big hit against marshan did you see the wilson yeah no oh it's delicious to look it up was it then satisfying satisfying and that's why marshan is the perfect hockey player because it's so satisfying to see him get hit and it's so fucking right like it never had he there's that one hit where he got blown up by suban when he was younger just smoked but but like there's that's just the one so people use that clip and it's like suban is still a canadian in that like it doesn't happen very often forever ago they both look like babies
Starting point is 01:02:45 yeah that that punch who's 26 on the caps oh man yeah i feel like they have a lot of turnover it's a fucking good it's a good punch right and and you say to yourself yeah it's sid the kid everybody and you go yeah okay two minutes for roughing guys i'm sorry that's not two minutes nick down nick down he nails though i haven't i've only seen the pictures oh my goodness glove on hauls off and boxes this man oh my god that's not a two minute penalty yeah i'm actually sort of surprised that that has not warranted some sort of investigation does the problem the problem well and it's cross the problem i think what led up to that like why did he punch him in the face cares uh dad was getting his stick in between his legs i think that's it they're tussling look
Starting point is 01:03:37 he's coming over whammy wow oh my god crosby loses the stick completely and yeah and again i talked about crosby and crosby versus darian hatcher in 2005 it's 2022 and sid the kid is all of a sudden a product of this bygone era where he had to fight for his goddamn life every time he took the ice and now he sticks people in the nuts every five games he punches people in the face he cross checks him in the ribs i can't stop watching this crosby's a fucking problem like people don't people don't respect him enough for he'll just fucking fuck you up the tweet i saw is that crosby and nolkin have entered their old man i don't give a fuck stage yeah like they walk around in the gym locker room you know in the public you know when the old men just stop wearing clothes
Starting point is 01:04:24 in the locker room they're that stage but on the ice where they just hit people in the face and they're bothered think of the baptism by fire these guys like Crosby having to deal with Darian Hatcher uh Malkin having to deal with the uh the simple task of defecting from Russia a lot of people forget that and then uh losing in the Stanley Cup final in what their third season which led to them winning in the stanley cup final in their fourth season so we're talking about two four round stanley cup playoff journeys yeah by the end of those four years that's it four four for crosby three for malcolm i mean they they had lived the lives of they of many men many many men yes and weirdly um they just beat the shit out of people now in their whole days
Starting point is 01:05:23 maybe they figured out that you can't do it any other way in the playoffs because you can't oh no good for them uh good for that yeah no man you the nhl needs to normalize um you know how like in soccer just like a pair of yellow cards means you can't play the next game red card means you can't play the next game like we got to normalize one game sit downs like one game suspensions because like i would i'd be curious to know what the argument is for what is the argument for not suspending crosby for that just one game just one it should be easier to get suspended yeah in the nhl yeah i 100 agree and i'm not talking about oh sit them down for 20 no no just one game i 100 agree with that one game little things like that where we have the the
Starting point is 01:06:12 video evidence is all there we can all go look at it we can dissect it as many ways as we want you should probably just sit down for a game with that punching a guy on in the face in the middle of play it's probably that should be a game it's not it's not yeah why not just write that run of the right it's it's simply not run of the mill roughing right and why why does the department of player safety safety pretend that that never happened like adam was saying oh that should have been a bigger deal yeah the nhl knows this happened they have all of the games on at all the time they know the conversation is happening they know this thing happened on the ice why don't they just hand out a little suspension nah um well because people pay to see crosby and they
Starting point is 01:06:51 pay to see malcolm before we get to the press conference we have to go through one thing very very quickly if you say matthew nice i'm gonna it's not gonna be matthew nice it's not gonna be matthew nice he's not signing in arizona everybody relax let's find something else to By the way, Kyle Clifford is taking reps at PP1 today because Matthews is not in practice, and I'm assuming it's a maintenance day, but we don't know for sure. So Kyle Clifford, guys,
Starting point is 01:07:16 not only is he going to play Power Play 1 for the Leafs in the playoffs, but he's signing in Arizona in the offseason, so you can freak out about that. Damn. Now, we need to talk about Jesse's new podcast, which, again, is available right now. It's currently called the Jesse Blake Sports Report.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Yes, get it right. and our argument on friday show was that it was going to be a difficult sell to something to literally name something it's like jesse's wide world of sports like it's just oh that's a good name old old name boring so jbsr so what's that jbs like sports yeah jbsr hashtag well jb always sounds good because of justin bieber right so you always that always works now there are plenty there are plenty of names that i i solicited for more names i needed help so i want to go through a few of them is that okay i think you should call your show plenty so first off uh sid six zero the cake sid six zero texted me he's like what about the cake is blaked and i said you're
Starting point is 01:08:11 better than this i've met sid adam he's not um uh in my dms on instagram easy blake oven with andrew uh these aren't real six with jesse blake like but with the sixth the number six now there's already a team with that. We've already done that a thousand times. Smart insider fan from Dan. Any given sports day with Jesse Blake. Again, another old man title. Rip that off. Hot takes with Blake from Evan.
Starting point is 01:08:41 416 sports. All right, I'm just going to go through some other ones, okay? So we got what about the PJ party? As in he was producer Jesse at one point. Do we have pump the Blakes? Pump the Blakes. I like that. What are you showing me? Blake sports take. We could
Starting point is 01:08:55 call it no hockey talkie. um uh the no show but it's like no as in k-n-o-w the no show poop poop magoo that was my suggestion i don't want it to be about the crab people because again you have to understand the crab people's an inside joke i get that you guys are a group but you're a group within a group hey and you have to understand that i have to take this to advertisers who've never heard of us and then i have to explain okay so here's what sdpn is now here's what the crab people are okay and you should check out his show that's a lot of steps you have to explain so there's a jbsr uh channel on the r discord and that's where can we edit that we change the name but they've been throwing
Starting point is 01:09:37 out different names as well there and one of my favorite ones was the blake down oh you know like what about sdp and eight the ocho i like that i uh i like blake's baseball broadcast from someone who only listened to the first half of the show blake's balls bats and buzzer beaters that's too much a lot of bees come on we gotta be no nonsense with jesse blake boo boo what about the shaken blake podcast the shaken blake i think that i like that one that actually has a but like i can sell people will be like no no here's guys it's not about you who already listen we're trying to attract new Shaken Blake. What does that have to do with anything?
Starting point is 01:10:23 It sounds good. It gets the people going. Recap. There's this one. Jesse's amazing cantankerous crazily awesome sports show. It's jackass.
Starting point is 01:10:41 What about Blakes of Steel? Oh! Yeah, but that marries him to hockey. Yeah. Blanking news. Blanking news. Wow. I like that.
Starting point is 01:10:55 The Jesse Blake down of sports. Boo. Oh my god. Poo poo magoo. Pod McPodface. Now you just see me. No. There was just silence.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Silence. What about this? Half-blaked. No What about Blake Doubt The Blake List I don't know
Starting point is 01:11:24 The Black List is like a big TV show Oh with Robert California The Blake Doubt With Robert California that's right No Hockey with Jesse Blake No We'll do a little Hockey I don't know
Starting point is 01:11:40 I think there's definitely some different names here Give Me a Blake See, I could... Give me a Blake. Sponsored by Kit Kat. I kind of like that a lot. Sponsored by Kit Kat. Blake me off a piece of that Kit Kat bar.
Starting point is 01:11:55 All right. I like that. No? Give me a Blake. I don't mind that at all. It was kind of fun. For fuck's sakes with Jesse Blake? I kind of like that.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Someone just wrote, fuck you, Adam. And it got 12 upvotes. All right. We're going to call it, fuck you, Adam. fuck you adam with jesse blake oh god oh god oh god all right listen i'm just what are we talking about well i mean i don't know if we need to settle on it today i think we keep them coming but i feel like we've got some good starters there like maybe we go back and we listen to this episode we go okay which one sounded better and you tell us i don't know what one's we're
Starting point is 01:12:39 gonna start narrowing it down of everything we threw out there what's what can we narrow five down for next episode i like guy in a room sports but i think that show already exists by the thousands uh what it's in discord no no i i was no i was so what we're gonna do so here's what we're gonna do no i wasn't i wasn't saying it wasn't i just look at you adam and i were trying to pare it down to five yeah no so we're gonna we're gonna get five five of the best we're gonna get five of the best and the winner is gonna get a hundred dollars if we can source it the winner's gonna get a hundred bucks to the uh to the sdpn store okay what if the name is the jesse blake sports report i think that should be one of them yeah that's one of the top it's gotta make the
Starting point is 01:13:21 top five okay we gotta get four or four others okay and if jesse picks his own name his original name you don't nobody gets the hundred bucks because jesse's a dick so right that's gotta be how it worked no they're all so there like they're all just there yeah what do you mean they're there i don't think the name matters i saw someone i i agree with you because someone was just like the balls to to say this on a show called the steve dangle podcast yeah but to be fair we we built this 10 years ago and we had to put podcast in the name i'll tell you the real reason we did it the steve so i did not want it so steve didn't want to call it this he wanted to call like some version of like steve adam and chris or whatever and i said no we're calling it
Starting point is 01:14:09 the steve dangle podcast because nobody knows who the fuck chris and i are that's that was part of it i wanted to get a generic name and then i said and then i said podcast and he's like and and i said the reason we're calling it a podcast is because if we don't nobody will know what that is nobody know uh steve have you heard the steve adam and and chris show which is what it would have been where where would i get that the reason we put podcasts in the name is because i go oh instantly i know i have to go to my phone and you have to remember what podcasting was in 2013 yeah man adam thank you for being a genius i'm just saying did it work it seems like it worked feels and also sdpn i wanted something else so we uh compromised and it's sdpn
Starting point is 01:14:46 it's and look look at how beautiful it is look at that it would have been beautiful no matter what we have jesse he makes beautiful things just saying gosh darn it just saying so anyway long story short let's pair it down to five and then next episode do we make the call do we put it to a vote what do we do i think we make the call next episode next episode we make the call because your next episode will be wednesday and then we're doing thursday this week we are instead of friday good friday this week so we're gonna do monday wednesday thursday adam is a man of god adam devout catholic devout and confirmed just like you uh actually no no no no my family i think was protestant but that's a big range i think anglican i don't know you and i are in a fight
Starting point is 01:15:30 my family left whatever church it was in when that my dad was 12 so it's been a while um so let's do the press conference

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