The Steve Dangle Podcast - Tim & Sid | September 7, 2017

Episode Date: September 7, 2017

On this episode, Tim and Sid on the OG Pod (0:00), taking tweets instead of calls (20:00), how the Tim and Sid 590 Show came about (26:00), the first Tim and Sid TV Show (33:00), hockey culture (37:00), Toronto sports fans (42:00), The Jets extensions (49:00), Marleau & Sid hates Kadri (53:00), Bob McCown, radio legends, being typecast & nice things from Sid (1:14:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hashtag Tim and Sid, of course I go by the name of the kid, famous, wow, this here is the Tim and Sid show, you are now tuned in, coast to coast, entertaining the masses, sports entertainment, it's about to get started, sit back, enjoy the show, in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, let's go! Man, I don't even know, you've seen the title of the show, you know who's on the show. Who? So do we even need to introduce these two? I think young Jesse Blake should. Right. Because he's the one who stumbled up to you guys drunk at a party demanding that you come on the show. I was tipsy.

That's exactly how that played out. Staggering drunk. Tiff one year ago. It was Tiff. It was Tiff. I was behind one of the Property Brothers in line waiting to go upstairs at the, what was the hotel you were at? The Drake.

The Drake. And I saw Jesse taps me on the shoulder. And he says, sup. He did that. He did that. There was a weird tap, though. I'm not exaggerating. There was a turn.

Yeah, there was a weird tap and a turn. I'm like, holy. And I'm like, what's going on? And he's like, I'm Jay Doggy. And then it just disintegrated into just one drunken slur after another. I don't know if I believe this anymore. I don't think you said Jay Doggy. I said, Tom and Sam, come on our show.

I know Dangle. He looked at us and said, listen, Jay and Dan, we need you on the show. If we don't get you guys on. By the way, guys, welcome back to Canada. Yeah. Thank you. It was a long trek. Did you see our walk?

It was a long walk. Long walk. The bit between the doors was my idea. It happens to me every day here at Riders. Every day. We should make the title Jay and Dan. We really should. That would be great.

I think we should. Okay, Tim and Sid in studio. Let's just give them an actual round of applause. This is completely unnecessary, but we will take it. It's not unnecessary. It's not unnecessary. You guys are, you're like the, you're the original podcasters who made it. you guys are the ones who did it.

Yeah, that's an interesting point. Adam Carolla did it. I'm hoping it's not us. Well, in Canada. You think it's us? Is it us? Who else did? Canadian sports?

Well, narrowed down. There's no sports. For sure there's no sports. No, nothing in sports. I can't think of anybody else. Nobody's crossed over from news. I know Canada Land is a huge podcast for news in this country, but nobody's crossed over and taken a huge job on a network

and continue to do the podcast as well. I haven't seen any of that. Well, I mean, but Tim deserves all the credit for it because when it scored tonight, it's true. Completely, completely and unilaterally true. He asked me to do a podcast and I said, what did you just call me? I didn't know what it was.

So this was 2000, what is it? This was 2009, 2010, got canceled. And Tim's like, we're bored. Like I'm doing features. I forget what Tim was doing. Tim was doing more important stuff. I was doing real things. You were doing real things.

I was talking about what Roman Turek re-signed with the plan not a joke and Tim's like and by real stuff I mean you sports or CIS football and stuff like that that's what I was doing and Tim's like

you want to do a podcast I'm like does this entail work and he goes for an hour a week I go I could do an hour a week and then I said my next question was what's a podcast and he told me it's basically radio on the go It's radio whenever you want. It's very unfiltered.

And I go, sure. So we do the hour. We do the first hour one. And it was received very well, if I'm not mistaken. I think it was number one for 80 weeks. It was like Despacito. Yeah, that's just. It was.

It was Despacito. It was the podcast Canadian version of Despacito. People just couldn't get it out of their heads. Didn't understand it. We turned Bieber down. It's amazing. But it was totally. The whole podcast thing was Tim's idea.

I'd love to think someone else in this country, sports-wise, had a more significant pod. But I appreciate you saying that. I just think you're lying. I mean, I did some research for this, and I couldn't find anybody. Merrick vs. Wyshynski is a giant show. They didn't turn it into, like, now there's a Merrick vs. Wyshynski TV show. Still talk. There is still talk.

But I feel like they were on TV the whole time, And I feel like Wyshynski got opportunities from Marek Wyshynski Pop. I guess what you're saying is, did anything move from one to the other and basically not change? And besides us not swearing on the radio show, it really didn't change. Fucking right, man. Well, I think, too, what's interesting is that, like, you said you were doing— Five minutes. You were doing—

No, it's cool, man. I knew it. As soon as I saw the E's beside their podcast, I said, if we ever do this, Six Arrow's just going to revert back. And I said, that's a bunch of malarkey. malarkey when uh uh i was i was talking to julie adam who is the head of rogers radio uh about you guys and this was a couple years ago and we were talking about podcasting and stuff and i was trying to get some sort of relationship going between our podcast and sports net it made sense we both worked here uh jesse worked here it was like you know kind of an easy fit and we're

sort of still peripheral but what was interesting was that i she she told me the story about how you guys were hired here or at least partially and it was don collins flipping her uh you know the link to your to your show so i guess she listened to it on a plane and she's like she got off the plane and she called him she said they won't like swear as much on the air right as much and she said she said other than that she's like you could tell instant instant magic do you guys know basically right away obviously being number one helps but did you kind of know yeah this is this is for real this is something else? I gotta be honest.

I thought that podcast was something. You had no idea. I had no idea. Honestly, I thought it was something because Tim and I were bored. Right.

So that's what we were doing. And then the one hour, it got more traction and Tim's coming up to me and there's like, the best part of podcasts are the standings. Seriously, the podcast standings.

Which are, in the end, horse bleep. Yeah, they are. They are horse bleep. You can swear. It's all right. You know what? Great point and great point.

Right. Because this doesn't matter to the horses That sounds good in a meeting We're the number one sports podcast in Canada What? Oh my god, that's amazing How do they figure that out? Don't worry about it, it's fine

How do they figure that out for anybody that doesn't know? It's like, it's ratings and comments It's based on ratings, yeah, and comments And new listeners So every new podcast which benefits Whoever is listing the ratings So if you start your new podcast You're going to jump to the top

because you're going to have a whole bunch of new listeners, new subscribers. Right. So that would encourage you, like it did for Sid, to continue to do it. Like, I honestly remember. We were number one. I was going to leave immediately. I remember, like, we did it, and this is unconfirmed, so you can tell me or not because I've never actually asked you this question,

but I was convinced that Sid was as free and open and unconcerned about what anyone else thought because he thought nobody was listening. And I thought, like, you were cussing. You were doing things that we wouldn't like that you would never do like this. I was personality dates I was doing no, but like I there was a freedom in that. Yeah, I felt I was like a bird I was flying No, we're gonna give us some more bars But like I but it was just let's wait it caught it they'll be time yeah, they'll be time

Can we run this through five o'clock? We don't have to do our show. Yes. You guys are rolling. We're just letting you go. But I thought it would. Yeah. Like I thought, like I knew we could do a good job.

Like that's first and foremost, I just like to say, whenever Tim and I get together, I know we can do a good job. So that's not my concern for anything. My concern is how much work it's going to cost me. Fair enough. It's true. Am I wrong? No, not at all.

And the podcast was a cool idea, and the more we did it, the more I liked it, the more people liked it, the more often they asked us to do it, because I don't know how long it was before we were five days a week. Right. And the traction we got, like, I would walk down King Street, go into my spot Zupa's on King Street. Ah, yes. Do you know Zupa's?

I would have people, still there, apparently. Zoops. Zoops. Cost me five years off my life, cholesterol-wise, Zoops. I regret nothing. But I'd see perfect strangers take their earbud out and look at me and go, I'm listening to you guys right now, and just keep walking. And I knew it was getting a little bit of traction,

but I didn't know what I know program directors would take it and do whatever. And it was just the timing of it, too, at the SCORE Television Network. It was an interesting time at the SCORE Television Network. And I want to know what episode Julie listened to because that, to me, could have been some very dangerous episodes. Julie, I owe Don and Julie and we owe Don and Julie a lot because it was a risk. Is Sid crazy? Can this work?

But at the end of the day, like, I've never had any qualms about the confidence of myself or Tim or us together. Like, I always had an internal chuckle when I heard people say, can they do this or can they do this or can they do that? It's not a damn thing we can't do. I'm serious. Yeah. It's not a damn thing. Sid's the confident one. I'll punch Irma in the face.

I'll go down there right now. We'll send you guys down to defend Florida. Right, yeah. But from a confidence standpoint, did I foresee the other stuff? No, I didn't. But I never for a second in my career working with this guy have I not had complete confidence in anything we've done, except for cut promos for Rodgers.

Other than that, they'll use everything, man. They will use everything. Your mic's on in the washroom by accident. It's getting in to the promo. Oh, okay, yeah. I've always wondered about how those were shot, because I know how we do them at PT. We know that people make fun of our promos. That's basically what we're saying.

You know why? Because we make fun of our promos. Well, yeah. I mean, that's sort of the point, right? At least people are watching them. If they're not making fun at all, then they're not making an impact. Have you guys ever had to do the shoving buddies? Oh, this one.

Look at this one. He's the, look at this one. But when we make that joke, the best part is when we make that joke while filming promos, it ends up tell me that i'm not right it's in the promo every time we'll do like the the nudge of the cheek like first we would do it as a joke and then it would end up in a promo i'm like are you kidding me none of the serious ones get used so like our normal interaction we're like don't do that it's gonna end up in the promo but it's always it's always like hey tim look at shit like i don't Did you hear what he said?

Hey, Tim, put your fingers in here. Like, he's too loud. Yep. Every small town radio picture, every small town radio promo picture has somebody doing that, someone screaming. Or apparently a national TV show. If you go to Kingston right now, Rick and Brett in the morning.

Rick's got his hands in his ears. Brett's so loud. He's obnoxious. We love the promo. Thank you, Rogers. Yes, actually. That's the moral of the story. Not to take a step backwards, because we're going through the progression of the podcast and everything,

but it sounds like it was your idea. What made you think, let's do this podcast that no one is doing? Because no one really did it back then. Yeah. It's a very new thing. It was, I was listening to podcasts on my own and I liked the chemistry that we had when we did score tonight on TV, but there was nothing, um, in the genre that would allow us to be what I thought we could actually be. And I'm sure you guys kind of get the same feeling when you're, you're vibing, you know, that it's different than a radio show, or, you know, it's different than a TV show or breakfast television. Like there's just a different level.

And I thought, well, we could take this. We just take this chemistry and go and do. and the one thing is like we enjoyed talking to each other so we just went out there and talked and the one thing that we did differently than every other podcast was we had the ability to put it up live so we would tweet out a link to the live podcast that's cool and this was just when twitter was starting and we had cabral richards who's now on tsn he would help us out by putting it out on his twitter account which had way more followers than each of our twitter accounts and so we would kind of do our podcast pseudo live if that makes sense so people would

actually interact so you'd be able to retweets out yeah and that was kind of the first thing that became a group of there were two groups the podcasters who couldn't listen live obviously right but then like the people who were kind enough on their phone or at work in their cubicle or in class in university who were listening every day it became a whole separate crew and it just these two organic kind of listenerships took place if that makes any sense and it took it in two different really rewarding ways for us i thought and it was again it was unique and completely not my idea kind of it was kind of a podcast like it was a podcast but the fact that we could go live with a podcast and then it was yeah right yeah and then i guess i mean um you

know one of the things that i was sitting on a radio or sitting and watching a radio panel with you once, Sid, and you were talking about callers to sports radio shows and how you guys just don't take them, or you didn't take them. Why? They're really good. Were you a caller? You were a caller when you were a kid. I was a caller?

Were you a caller? I was a caller. I was on Chuck Swarovski. Were you good, or were you awful? I was really rehearsed. I was really rehearsed. You had a script? You wrote something out on Windows 95? No, not like big fan with Patton Oswalt.

I wasn't quite that bad. But I had my thoughts. And, you know, like everyone, I wanted to call in and talk Leafs with the Raptors play-by-play. That's going to make sense. Let me get up on my soapbox. Oh, we got Steve in Scarborough. He went to me and took my thoughts on Nick Antropov. I once called in Norm.

He was tall. I called in Rumak. I've never told you the story. Greg Sansoni was producing a show that night. I'm like... And you're how old? I'm in high school. This is 93, 94, 95.

So you're lonely. I'm very lonely. Extremely lonely. And you might have a mullet. The flex appeal won't be on for another hour. That was noon. That was noon. I enjoyed your traps.

Yeah. What time was Latin Lovers? For me? Every night. 24-7. VHS. Despacito. What was I talking about?

Yes, but I wanted to be called something like Big Daddy Why Wanted to be referred to a norm I or say Big Daddy from Mississauga, right? So there's a so there's a Portuguese guy with a mullet in Mississauga calling in the dorm room back at 1 a.m. In the morning with his clock radio turned down So so Sansoni's producing on the other end, and I call him up, and he goes sports if I die the fan What's your name? Where you from I go Big Daddy? from Mississauga

I've never told Raven story there And there's a pause And and now knowing Sansoni as we do because we work with him for so long, you know why there was a pause So I go this idiot. I go. It's a big it's Big Daddy from And there's a pause and then Greg goes seriously, what's your name? And then I did it again I go Big Daddy from a society Then I relented but I was a caller one time as well and I had zero success Basically, at that age of my life, I didn't do anything well.

Adam, you don't strike me as a caller. Well, because, okay, I grew up in a radio family. So, for me, it was like the magic of it was I'd seen it from behind. So, for me, it was like I think I tried to call into Kiss 92, the original version of it, several times when Tarzan Dan was on the air in the afternoons because I listened religiously to that. But you can never get through. and yeah, I never called because I always felt like what an asshole move

Marilyn's kid calling in and so I always thought like don't do that that's not cool like let people get in the lines I always felt like I would be getting in someone's way or something

That might be the first time you've ever said Marilyn Might be Might be, yeah How wary Because we always call her Alanis With Marilyn It's your own mother

Right How wary have you been in your career considering the reputation of family? Very How has it affected your career, do you think? Well, I wouldn't talk about it for the first five or six years. So when her show launched on CTV, they actually asked to interview me.

And I was at Kiss's main competitor in town at the time. And I refused to be on camera. I said, I'm sorry, I'm not going to do it. I just wouldn't talk about it. And I think it wasn't until I was doing a morning radio show in Calgary where we finally said, okay, I think we can be out with this. my biggest fear was people thinking that i hadn't earned it you want to grind your own way for sure yeah and of course like when i started i was 18 so you're like an 18 year old punk and you don't

want your parents help anyway right like f you like i can do this myself and yeah so i mean i did i interned at chum fm but it wasn't through her it was through the evening guy cory kim so i was very quiet about it for the first five six years and now we're pretty open but there's still people that are like oh you guys are related that's crazy and so and which always kind of surprises me so yeah I was so completely unlike Sean McKenzie I didn't listen to that podcast and refer to it right now what are you talking about I don't know he's a listener that is uncalled for what uncalled for McKenzie there's gonna be some McKenzie hold on McKenzie When he comes on our show

Destroys our face Always attempts to Even if it's Like He's just He's prepared for us And ours is not Like we don't write

Anything down We're not ready for anything Just if a guy comes on And there's something We're talking about We may end up Chopping the dude Or

Bigging him up Depending on the situation But Mackenzie's like Always prepared for us To tear Like seemingly To tear him down And then he fires

That preemptive strike Like You bald prick Shut up I'm like, wait, I just said hello, Sean. So me firing back, I feel like... He comes to dinner with the knives out. Sometimes it's like right at the end of his...

You don't see it coming. Like, it's right... Like, he's covering the Sens, like, and Eric Carlson took another quarter zone today, and he should be good to go tonight. Sean McKenzie, Sportsnet, Ottawa. I hear Sid is impotent. And I am frozen.

And that's, like, that's the biggest dig ever. Right at the end of his throw, he always does that, too. So why didn't you guys take callers? The original question. Oh, so the original thing was a good producer. So I was just going to say, it's interesting that you got that in. That's why you're here. You guys figured out interaction with listeners without calls, which was a pretty new thing at the time.

Yeah, because people looked at us like we got a third eye growing out of our head. What's Twitter? And then six months later in a meeting, they're like, Twitter's awesome. Oprah's on Twitter now, right? Just now? No, no, back then. And it was like when Oprah went on Twitter, that's when it was mainstream. When the book club went on Twitter, everyone went crazy.

In 2009, right around when you were starting the podcast, I specifically remember having a conversation with someone who is a mentor in my career and is actually a really smart guy, but he had a really bad opinion at the time, which was, ah, Twitter's a fad. 2009, ah, it's a fad. It'll pass. We had a lot of that, though. A lot of people were like, why would you go to Twitter?

And I'm like, what do you mean? I can edit every comment to what I need and I don't have to have bad colors because I've already read their comment, right? Like it made no sense to me to do callers. If you have to sort through bad callers, when you could just get all of the good callers. So while we were doing that first podcast,

I was like, one, it's immediate to people feel like they're, they're actually a part of the show. And three, like I remember, uh, We had enough guys from the fan at the score that gave us kind of like we're just two punks from two sides of the city coming together and doing something.

But we had enough guys who actually did stuff at the score that would tell us, you know, like Elliott Friedman came out. There's a lot of guys that came out of the score that were really good. A lot of guys and girls. And a lot of them just said, like, there's callers and then there's listeners. And they're different. And one group is better than the other. Yeah, and the ones that call oftentimes aren't listeners. They're just people who want to be on the radio.

Or drunk. And so every PD would come to it, like whatever, and just say, you guys got to take callers. I mean, that's what they do. That's what they do in the fan in New York. Everyone takes callers. And I'm like, I'm taking callers. We're taking them on here. And I'm editing them, and the crappy guys aren't getting through.

And it's pushing the conversation forward. Right. It's driving things. It's driving characters. You got to just get rid of some of the noise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's the demographic they want. Yeah, that was the other part.

I never understood that part of the argument. So you want us to hit a younger demographic, but take the guy from Fort Erie every day who calls and is unemployed. Really? This is how you want to build the audience? Okay, maybe not unemployed. And no one knew that one to four was like... Is there any Fort Erie listeners you just pissed off?

No, but Tim brought up an interesting point. The one to four was viewed, I'd like to think, a little differently before we got there, right? Oh, it was completely different. When we get to radio, whatever, I'm moving. But it's just, no one realized that people would sit here and listen to this while they're at work. Like, that was foreign to when we first started, or at school. Like, they're like, people are listening in their car, and that's the only place they're listening.

Like, wait a second here. No, it's bigger than that. Yeah, like, you just sit at your computer now at work, and you can listen to whatever bleep you want. And people are like, what? People are listening at work? Like, who do you think? It's like, we have lawyers, we got doctors. It is a mind bleep.

I'm driving in the other day, the Monday, and I'm listening to Sportsnet 650 out in Vancouver. Just like that. In my car. For an hour. No, but it's like... On the Radio Player Canada app, right? Which is available for download at the app store. And it was fun until it broke down after 10 minutes.

But the point is this. What broke down? The feed. It was a little choppy. It was the first day. Sportsnet 650. What are you going to do? It's Vancouver.

It's a far away thing. But what were we talking about? Sean McKenzie's a douche. That's what we're talking about. We're talking about, you know, you're talking about in the car, listening in the car on the way to work. You were, like, the other day, you were, yeah, so. But I just think this whole, like, this whole thing, what you guys are doing, what you've done along the way. Like, I mean, having seen all of the business, I feel like, like, what happened with podcasts just kind of changed the way people interact in this business.

and people feel like they were a lot closer to it than ever before. It's a far more intimate thing, right? I feel like having a radio show and a podcast, the response from the podcast is a hundred times what the radio show would be. And it feels like, and it's interesting, people feel like they're in the room next to you, which is how radio is supposed to feel. Right.

But podcasting actually seems to have been able to pull that off. Take out commercials. You ever seen the meme of that kid sitting next to a poster of three people talking, and then he's just sitting on the floor next to it eating cereal? He's like, this is what it's like to listen to a podcast. That's basically exactly what it's like. I've never seen the meme, I'm sorry. We have to show you the picture.

I'm like, you know that hip thing? Oh, shit, okay, god damn. I tried, I tried. Jess is pulling it up. Where did it happen, guys, for you, where it went from, okay, you're at the square, you're doing this podcast on the side. Good meme, Dangle. Right?

Exactly what you're talking about. Good meme. First off, did the score, was it under the score banner? Was it under that brand? Yes. Okay. And that was just something they were like, yeah, fine, do your thing? Or Hardcore Sports Radio.

It could have even been. It could have been. Which was the spinoff where everyone was swearing. Yeah, it was part of the score, though, I think. And they had no idea. They were just like, whatever. To be fair about it to the score, though, we were pitched an evening show based on the podcast. Really?

By the powers that be. Yes. Right? Yeah, before I left, yeah. And I'm pretty sure I'm the one that wasn't. I don't want to speak for Tim. I wasn't too hot on it. Why is that?

People, I think people watch sports at night. Interesting. I think they watch highlights in the morning, and I think they watch post-game coverage right after a game. Yeah. I don't know. I just, I was hesitant to do that. But to their credit, when we were doing five days a week and it was growing,

we were all brought together, and it was discussed. So it wasn't like we were just sitting there and the score didn't do anything and John Levy didn't do anything and those guys didn't do anything. We did talk about it, but I was a little hesitant about it. That makes sense. So what was the moment where that all – because you guys came over before Rodgers bought the score, right? Yeah.

Didn't you? Yes, sorry. You weren't a part of that. Correct. That was something that you guys came – Do people actually care about this? Yeah. You think so?

You'd be surprised. I really care about this. Yeah, well, you were involved. Because we can get you every day all the time, right? I want to know how this happened. How did this happen? You know what's funny is... We have such a wide variety of listeners, though.

Some people will be like, there's too much Leaf talk. I'm like, well, a lot of people enjoyed it. Right. We'll get to Balkan in a sec. For fans. Yeah. We'll get to the yogurt. Chicago fans, you're not talking about the Hawks enough.

Yeah. You'll get your only amount of talk coming up soon enough. Bring up your 20 minutes of prep on Sam Bennett. Let's go 1.75 I was surprised How low it was What were they waiting for

Just sign the deal Exactly Well you want more money Score more than 13 goals man Deal with it Go Sam Go be a Bennett 18 in his first year

Go be a Cap Be a Dow What did Radulov just get For 18 goals Sorry Off topic Good point Habs are not going to make

The playoffs this year Go ahead What We were not at the Hot take segment yet Is that I so want to do that Hot take coming up

Hot take segment coming up with um okay yeah so who called you so he was going oh he was going and they just they called me and they said do you want to come with them and i had a bunch of different things going on at the score that were outside i still have a passion for uh youth sports uh cis canadian university sports i had a lot of nba stuff going on i was doing a bunch of different things and he just looked at me and said, listen, it's time for me to go. And I was at the end of my line

there and I could feel it and I just, so he was gone. He was going to get his own radio show from one to four. It was going to be Sid Cicero's show and then I screwed it all up and said, you know what, yeah. I screwed it all up for him by saying I was, like

I was just, the score was, the score is such a great place because it allowed these people, everybody who was there and we could just write like cabral richards elliot friedman adnan virk james sobolski sofia yurksovich yurksovich yurks yeah sofia j basically everyone running hockey down at the cbc yeah jackie redmond people at hockey night in canada and drager start there too no we didn't we can't claim drager yeah it was too good for us most definitely um but there's a bunch of people there and they were just allowed to go like do whatever the hell you want to do but when it

came to taking the next step there was never enough money to back up what the next step would be so you'd end up like i was doing ncaa tournament hosting which was like uh four straight like 14 hour days and we would have like a research staff of me and beth sherlock who's moved over and it was like i was asking poor beth to you know and beth's great yeah and like or just just one person and it was like we're hosting one of the biggest tournaments in the world and we don't have a research staff and i would start i would lose my mind when i couldn't get something because i wanted to be amazing at it and then i was just like you know what sid's got the shoot pulled already i'm just gonna jump on that and go so the score was like this amazing place to grow and try

stuff but there was no next step and i owe my whole career to the score uh but there was just a limit to where it was and that's why in the end it got sold to Rogers right it was because they just couldn't afford to

hard to compete even when they cancelled our show they're like we love your show the score tonight they cancelled it we love it so much we want to get the fuck

out of here right now we love your show but we can't afford it we want to put resources elsewhere and I was just like how does that make sense we should have worn

more mock necks right yes I used to watch they went casual and we all like you're not allowed to wear ties

because that's not cool and I'm like hey is Jon Stewart cool John Stewart's pretty cool isn't he yeah it's exactly what it was do you know how hard it is to wear a mock neck with breasts do you have any idea Dr. Frank Lister couldn't help

I had a friend I've heard those commercials shut up Dr. Frank Lister I had a friend call me once when we were on the score and just say you realize you look like Ralph Furley Ralph Furley is a

That's a Three's Company reference You have to pull it up Oh my god Two guys in this room just went to look up Ralph Furley Think of the listener right now Let them google it Google Ralph Furley

They're doing it right now Unless they're over 40 If he's not an Animaniacs character That's Ralph Furley And we had to wear stuff like that Oh sorry He has hair. That is.

I didn't mean to be a dick. Wow. You didn't mean to be a dick. You just are a dick. Wow. Coming into the show, Sean McKenzie up here on the dick-o-meter. And Steve just surpassed him. That's amazing.

Well done. I got a pass. So you come here. And I remember you guys coming in. And I think I had started afternoons just after you guys had started afternoons. So I remember the big talk was you guys being here. And then the Olympics happen. And the goal happens.

The women's hockey goal That blows up and goes viral And then you know This is just how it looks to me And then there's several of the clips that go viral The show is doing really really well And they say they want to do a TV show Is that kind of how it went?

Yeah kind of And are you guys like sure Or is it like oh I don't know about leaving radio Because you were simulcast Yeah we were simulcast And I mean you know 360 doesn't get the numbers Regular Sportsnet does But you know it's a national

it's a national platform and it's big enough and things you know things were kind of going well and rob corte who's now uh basically running everything in canada with hockey night and sports net the most powerful man in the history of sports broadcasting potentially who wasn't in the role that he's in now but was over the last few years he would he would always we'd always interact like he was always a big fan of the show he was always supportive of what we were doing and then he got promoted uh in a serious way and he can he could affect change and we talked and it was uh i wouldn't say it was a right away thing tim but i don't know how to characterize it it was there were concerns because what we were doing was working and it was working from an audience

standpoint it was working from a workflow standpoint you know we were in our car if we wanted to at 3 55 eastern every day if we had to be and don't get me wrong that was like radio is still the most challenging things I've ever done. It is my advice to any broadcaster listening to this. If you want to make money in your life or want to be a broadcaster, prove to people you can do three hours of radio well. If you prove to people you can do that well,

the sporting world could possibly be your oyster. Now, that's not the case all the time, but to me, this is it. If you could swing that and, you know, there were discussions back and forth in terms of time slots and this and that but at the end of the day i don't think it's an offer really either of us could have passed up is that fair to say yeah i mean i think the beauty of sydney as we come at it from two completely different angles and when we had the podcast

in my head i was always trying to figure out what where do you take this because no when we first did it nobody took it seriously at all like no like even our bosses were just like i don't care And I was like, how can we build, like, what can we build this into? And my thought was always some sort of simulcast where just like you're doing right here. Like, I don't know how we do it, but we'll do it. So I always thought it was just some sort of simulcast. And then when we got to the fan, it was like the only way we could take it up another notch from what we were doing at one to four was to somehow get the TV people involved. so that when things happen, like they got hockey,

we could get the big hockey guests or we could get the guests that we always watch go on Bob McAllen because Bob McAllen was the king and understandably so. And so we kind of just, how do we take the next step? So I always had this little book in my bag and I could probably show you all the notes from when we were at the score of what it would be. And the closest thing to what it would be is what it is now,

though I don't know if we've actually achieved that in what we're at right now but I thought that that would be the closest thing there Wow, man and Nerves, that first day, do you guys remember the first day at all? Three hour show Yeah, I remember the first day We went from three hours of radio

so it was July 1st, it was the day Phil Kessel gets traded from Toronto to Pittsburgh It's July 1st, 2015 Elliot's breaking stuff and he is not listening to us at all Elliot Friedman is sitting in there Like he's forced to be in there

Because they needed someone to help us With what was free agent Like this is the first day Here we go this is hockey Canada day So he's grinding out He's doing what they do in the promos To act like the guys are

Oh we'll be breaking news and typing on computers And look at my blackberry look look I'm doing work he's actually doing that And could give a bleep about what were saying on this three hour show where we basically just went and so it went from him saying yeah grind out three hours on radio the only thing harder than grinding out three hours on radio is grinding out three hours on tv live with yeah live with like actual breaking news and stuff but it was i thought it was fun as hell to do that so anyways it ended up that was the first

day that was what i remember was like just this blur of three hours turned into a pretty good I was happy with the show. Well, but, like, we had great news. That's probably our best first show ever of anything, I would say. It'd be better than nothing happening, right? Like, it's good to have a big story like that. Oh, absolutely. No, no, it was planned perfectly.

It was great. It was, honestly, it was like... We planned the old castle. We had Jim Rutherford on for the Penguins. We had Don Cherry on that day. We had the castle trade. Yeah, it was great. It was a lot of fun.

What was Don like that day? He was great. It was after the game, so we might have had a couple. Yeah? Yeah. Oh, that's odd. But he was fantastic. After the Jays game.

After the Jays game. Jays game, yeah. I was going, what? No, no, no. Jays game. He was at the Jays game. And yeah, he was just, one of the great parts of the show, especially when it got to the fan, was you had no idea how many people you respected may have been listening to you.

And Don listened a lot. And just a bunch of other names. no but Don Cherry to his point Don Cherry was amazing to us like Don Cherry comes on and asks

for the horns which like for me our use of the Jamaican you know horns yeah

is something that was added early and for my brain to wrap around Don Cherry coming on to our show to ask for the horns

was just a mind bleep like I'm like what like Don Cherry is coming on here and like Yeah, like that boys Give me the horns

Not just ask for the horns Like when we wouldn't give it to him Would get pissed Yeah Where's the horns Where's the horns What's going on Like if there was a

If there was a group of people That would have been It would have been like His demographic That would have been Completely pissed at the horns Right Like so many people

And the fans were like Because it's not hockey culture Yeah The horns aren't hockey culture And here's the protector Of hockey culture going Give me the horns boys So that's got to be, like, to me, that's got to be.

He's bringing you in. If Don Cherry's bringing you in, if he's welcoming you in, that's got to feel pretty cool. It's a decent co-sign, man. Yeah. Decent co-sign. I once got a call from. But we're still not in hockey culture, so.

No, not necessarily. Do you want to be, though? I mean, hockey culture can be such a pain in the. The pay is good. Is it? Okay. See, and again, we're like, if I love hockey, so like i i grew up in a hockey family but i looked at hockey culture and i looked at all

the people who thought they knew hockey in this country and i was like i love every sport why would i just limit myself to doing one thing and plus when we got in at the score we were both interns at the score together and i was like look at all these guys trying to do hockey i love basketball screw it i'll do basketball i'll do football i'll do whatever they want me to do to get into this business and then i started watching like that hockey culture grow and i It's just like, eh, like I grew up in it. I love hockey, but there's like this separation between the two that always bugs me. A certain way that you have to be.

And I'm not talking about the broadcasters, but I'm talking about in that inner circle, there is a, if you're not this way, then you're not one of us. Does that make sense? No, I know exactly what you're touching on. I felt it as an intern here, like not to talk bad about the place that we're currently in, but like just down the hall. Sportsnet 590? Yeah.

Like, I wasn't a big basketball guy, and Ryan Walsh, who took over as the head of the interns. So I was hired by Doug Faraway, who used to be the PD, and then Walsh took over. And he had this test that you had to pass in order to become an intern that had to do with sports knowledge. And he goes, name six Raptors. And I said, you know, and I think I got to. Mama do Anjay. I got to four. Popeye Jones.

Graham Humphreys and he goes oh not Graham Humphreys we went to school with Graham Humphreys Chris Humphreys exactly

someone no I said Graham Humphreys and then he goes oh good you passed and then someone narked on me

in the room and they're like wait do you think that's one person I'm like it's not Joey Graham and so he goes

oh my god you wouldn't have even passed the test it wasn't just him and he was he was very Graham Humphreys is half a point

I agree yeah It's actually amazing that you said Graham Humphreys Like what's the odds So I want to get your I want to get your takes before I'm not sure if this makes your show today But it would have made ours on a normal day

Sens removed 1500 seats From the Canadian Tire Center For the season? Yeah they were permanently gone After what happened in the playoffs last year Good idea? Bad idea? uh means well means there's better odds of of non-sellouts but i mean if you're drawing better odds of sellouts they're taking the seats better odds of not announcing

non-sellouts english yeah you went a long way if it makes sense to tom and sell me those guys and it makes sense i don't i don't know i sometimes don't know how to read that i know it can spare some embarrassment just on the surface I think we're all of the same. But there's embarrassment now, right? You would think after they make it to the Eastern Conference Finals, last game. I'd have to read the reasoning from Selmy and those guys.

I'm not sure why they did it. I think I know. But it's sad on the surface. I don't think a Canadian hockey city should have to do that. And Tim and I have had this conversation enough on air, and I don't think we've held back, where it's pathetic. That Canadian hockey city has this issue. But Ottawa's not like other Canadian hockey cities,

And I understand that, but I still, there's a part of me that finds it completely irrational and unreasonable that that should be happening in this country. When's the last time you bought tickets? Dude, I just bought season tickets to The Rock this morning. Oh, wow. Such a liar. He's lying to his team. I've been an Argos season ticket holder since 1999.

You and Dirk are like 600 people. Oh, yeah. Me and Conrad Holloway back in the day. The Rock, it's such a fun, it's so much fun to go. I don't know why it doesn't do better. I used to do play-by-play for the NLL. Yeah? Yeah, I loved it.

Wow. Because you really are the all-sports guy, eh? Yeah, I am totally the all-sports guy. I did like three years of the NLL. You did, and you did, and some of the scheduling and that. I remember he did an NLL game in Calgary. He took a red eye to do a high school prospects game in, where was it? Mississauga.

Mississauga. Hershey Center. Hershey Center. And what's-his-face was calling himself like a top five NBA lottery pick. Cheryov? Yvonne Cheryov. Yvonne Cheryov was calling him. Do you remember that name?

No, no. Yeah, do you remember that? He was nothing. So Tim's on no sleep calling a game, and I have to go in the stands and talk to this guy's agent, who is no, I am closer to the NBA than this guy. No, it was a real, no, no, no, no. Cheryov sucked.

No, no, it was. Yvonne Cheryov was ass. I think it was Bill Duffy. Like, I really think it was a legit agent in the crowd. I also think he wasn't allowed to talk about it. Anyways. I think he wasn't allowed to talk about the actual prospect on the floor because that would be some sort of my life.

My point is he would do NLL and work pretty damn hard at it because some of the scheduling was a little nuts. Lacrosse is a great sport. It's an amazing sport. It's so much fun. I remember in Calgary they had certain chants or whatever. Rough necks. Yeah, so the rough necks announcer who was like a local morning show host

on a really nice, very sweet radio station. He's a really sweet guy, but he'd get on the... Was it Bruce Barker? No, Mookie Wilson. And so he gets Wait, he played for the Jays and was a morning? What a player So he's a guy that

Speaking of versatility He'd be like, if the Rock were in town One of the Rock players gets a penalty And he'd be like, sit down And the whole arena goes, and shut up And everybody's in their Calgary hunting gear Like, ready to go Couldn't see anybody

It was amazing Some of the atmospheres there are so great You almost feel like, man, if they allowed like one day a year where the Leafs, you know, average Leaf fans could actually afford those tickets, that's what it would feel like. It would just be bananas in there. The loudest crowd I ever had, I swear, was I called the Calgary Roughnecks championship and they opened up the Saddledome. Even like so beyond the, you know, the rafters right up at the top. Usually in regular season games, they'll close those off because they're too high and they're behind the press box. So they opened them up.

It was sold out. arena was unbelievable. And having grown up in Toronto, that's all I could think of what you just said. Like, if they actually let real Leaf fans go into a stadium and just have it to themselves for one game. That's what it would feel like. And when they were so

crap, I always, I would say it on the radio. Like, they need to do this. They somehow need to just outlaw every suit for one game. Have you said this? No, I was going to say they did that with the Coke Zero fans' first game. The pre-season game that was preferred.

Nice. Piece of garbage that was. No, I totally agree. There's no Sprite fan zone at Raptor games, though. Oh, man. There's no Sprite fan zone. Wow, what's that? I don't even...

It's just regular fans. No. No, but that was... That was like 11 bucks. Right, that was the point of the Sprite. Maybe they should do that in Ottawa. And why the Raptors were always louder. Should have a Sprite bowl.

Sprite the whole second level. I plead to anyone listening to this in the Toronto area, if you have money and nothing to do with it, Give it to me. A, give it to Dangle. If that doesn't work for you, buy a section at the ACC for the season, lower bowl for Leaf games, and let the Red Patch Boys be there for every game. But there's a Blue Patch Boys that you could go to Mississauga and Scarborough

and find and let them sit there. Andrew Bogut, when he was a Milwaukee basketball player, he used to buy a whole section and give it to fans that would cheer the entire game. And if you didn't cheer the entire game, you were out of the section. And it was a pretty good section. That's awesome. And it was because Milwaukee was bad and they didn't have sellouts. Yeah, and they didn't have sellouts.

But he did it, and it was amazing. And I think the section zero because he wore zero. But anyways, if they did that in Toronto. I used to work at the score with a lot of people from Ottawa and other parts of the country. And they would come in and they would say, ah, the Leafs fans are so terrible. Well, we were also brutal. Well, by then, the Leafs were okay and they were making the playoffs. This was probably early 2000s, and I'll never forget, I had guys from outside the city,

and I would constantly tell them, like, the real fans are not at the game. The real fans are in bars all across the city, and the Leafs made the playoffs, and I was out, and the guy was having, you know, smoke on the smoking balcony back in the day, and he heard this roar, and he goes, what the hell was that? I go, the Leafs just scored. He's like, what are you talking about? I go, the Leafs just scored, and he's like, come on. And I'm like, wait.

And it happened to be that the Leafs scored two goals in a minute, and he heard a second roar. We went inside, and the Leafs had two goals. And he's like, I can't believe that. Yeah. And I'm like, see? That's where all the fans are. And I use that story all the time to say.

Get a section. Just buy a section. It ended up being Maple Leafs Square. Well, and that's why the TFC games are so much fun to go to. That was just bars. There was no such thing as Maple Leafs Square at the time. We were downtown Toronto. And you could hear roars from all the bars in the area

because people were watching the games because they couldn't afford to go inside. The TFC fan supporters, like if you were part of one of those groups, I think it's $10 a game. But that is part of the deal is you got to get up and chant the whole time and they let them shoot off flares and smoke bombs and stuff like that. Apparently, did you read the story somebody bought tickets to the Jamaica game? Which I think, Tim, you were at the Jamaica game, right? No, I didn't go.

You didn't go? I was going to go. Somebody bought tickets to the Jamaica game through the Voyager as a fan group and were not ready for the atmosphere and then complained. I swear to God. They complained. The Voyagers posted a reply.

You could see it on Twitter. They complained that people were standing the entire game. They couldn't see. And the response from the Voyagers was one of the biggest fuck yous I've ever seen. It was glorious. I encourage you to read it. They were like, shut up.

We're cheering. You don't want to cheer. You go somewhere else. You're in the cheer section. It was brilliant. The response was brilliant. And those games are wicked, too. There are people who also in Southern Ontario, for some reason, just don't want to get up.

Yeah, I noticed that at concerts. I noticed that. Concerts blows my mind. That's a thing. It's crazy. Why do you get tickets? Why are you here? But that's why the West makes fun of Toronto, right?

Like, we all understand that. Yeah. Like, when I used to travel for, I used to do Ticats play-by-play as well. I did a lot of it. But I would go West. We could do a whole episode on your resume. No, but you, I just did a bunch of things that no one really listened to or cared about. Can you run the Ticats?

Yeah. He's like the dean of a college. I should have said that. You should have been a guy in there going, no, this is a bad idea. But that's why the West makes fun of Ontario. Because they watch these things and see these things and don't see the bars and go, come on. Because Calgary, you go to any game, there's a jersey in every row. Edmonton is the exact.

You don't go in any other color in Calgary. It's red. Yeah. And the same in Edmonton and Vancouver here and there. Well, if they're winning. Yeah, if they're winning. Okay, so I want to ask you guys about a couple things that are, like, with regards to, like, just, like, actual sports things that have happened recently.

Maurice and Sheffield Day Off got their extensions. And this is for you too, Steve. Oh, that's official now. Yeah, I believe so. What do you think? I guess making the playoffs isn't that important? Damn. Wow.

Someone challenge me on it. It's pretty interesting. Kevin Sheldaff is a stand-up human being and I'm a big fan of Kevin Sheldaff this isn't the tri-league to borrow a baseball term, this is the get-it-done league at times

Maurice, I can see, I mean, it's been 2014 for Paul Maurice I get it I don't know I'm a little confused Are they in a position to be good? If you build around the kid, number 29, yes

But that's another three years away. They've got some other players on that team. Shifley's good. Shifley's really good. I think there's players for their blue line that are very overrated. And I don't think Steve Mason's going to help them in one wish. I'll give you the goalie. That's you.

A lot of the people in the stats community seem to think the Jets are going to end up doing pretty good. But, yeah, you had the worst goaltending in the league for a while. And Steve Mason's your answer. Like, even if he has a bounce back year. Maybe they'll get to 27th in team goals again. No, but they're all. No, no, but. Hold on.

But they're rolling the dice that either their kid gets better or Mason can stop gap until they find somebody else. That's what they're doing. If both those things happen, you're good. But that's two ifs at one position. No, I completely understand. But if you look at that roster, I'm not saying that that's a terrible team. I don't think they are.

I don't think they're good. And I think what they've done there is had patience, which is rare. Patience is done because they made one playoff since returning to Winnipeg. In the last four games. Yeah, and they were swept. No wins. But if you look at that roster, they've done a pretty good job of roster construction. And they haven't sold out.

They didn't sell out. And having been in Toronto when they were selling out repeatedly, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. I think now you have the guy where you can sell out a little bit. Like, they didn't have a guy to build around. Tim's right. Now you have the guy to build around. I think you could be a little more risky.

No, but I think Shifley is a really, really, really good player. And then you've got Leine. I'm just saying now's the time to take maybe a couple risks. I don't think Bufflin is like a... Is Bufflin a top 10 defenseman in hockey? No. I don't think so. Because he gets talked up like he is.

Is Jacob Chauvin the next guy? Well, I think it's because at times he looks like a top 10. He's such an interesting guy in the league. Yeah, at times he looks like it, but every night he can just do things that no one else can because no one else is 265 pounds. Right. And can move like him, but he's not as consistent as he'd like to be a top 10 defenseman. I think I know what you're touching on, though.

Until Patrick Laine, they had a lot of really appealing pieces, but no real star. I agree with Shevelday of not doing anything. Who are you building around? It's a difficult question. There's no question now, so have a go. Right, but the honeymoon's over. Now it's time to... Yeah, and to that point, I agree with Tim.

This extension is, here you go. If you don't get it done, you're done for both Maurice and for Shovel Day Off. The league today just announced the trade deadline next year will be Monday, February 26th. Wow, that's early. It feels early. I think it's about the same time as last year, though. Is it? Yeah, they moved it up a little.

I guess my point is Shovel Day Off's kind of been low-key ahead of those dates in the past. I'd be stunned if that was the case this year. Now, obviously, it's planned to see how the season's going, blah, blah. but I think the time to be a little risky is very soon for shovel day off Maurice has more rope but we'll see I'm surprised I'm surprised by shovel day off Maurice I'm not surprised

Marlo coming to Toronto I think he said am I playing with Matthews someone said yes and he said I'm coming I think it's that simple Sean McKenzie's father reported that what

Sean McKenzie's father the unnamed father I think it's reported that Marleau may start with Kadri, which I haven't heard a single person say, but I think actually kind of makes some sense. Like, the Matthews line. With all due respect to Zach Hyman. Hey, I'm not even leaving him out of it.

Like, you could put someone else there. Connor Brown. It doesn't matter. Probably Connor Brown. Maybe, but, like, it's just that line did so well. And the JVR Bozak-Marner line is its own thing. It's the we know you don't do defense line. So what's left?

30-goal scorer Nazem Kadri. Leo Komarov making you hate everything in the world. And, yeah, let's put a guy with over 500 career goals. Gives Marleau an enforcer. Kadri. The chief shotter is Kadri. He's got his enforcer. He found his game.

Such a rat, but he's our rat. No, yeah, he found his game. He's so valuable. 20 goals to Connor Brown, though. By the way, that's what you get with patience, eh? 6-0. Patience? Yeah, have patience with a guy.

Have patience with a team. Look what Qadri turned out to be. How many people in Toronto wanted Qadri gone? Well, Qadri's not going up against the number one guys on the other team anymore, though. Well, he was for part of the year. But last year he wasn't. For the end of the year, he wasn't. I'm just saying, I think that matters to a certain extent.

It does. It does, without a doubt. But that doesn't mean he can't be great for you in that role. It was a different thing night in, night out. He scored 30 goals and made an impact defensively in the face-off circle and was a pain in the ass to a bunch of different teams. And people don't want to give him credit. Maybe the guy sitting to my left right now.

He doesn't want to give him credit by diminishing it against who he played against. That's true, though. He was remarkably valuable. He's not playing against other teams' top guys when Matthew's around. That's a fact. That's not an opinion. That's a fact. But how does that diminish 30 goals and making an impact?

Like I just said, he was fine in that role. He was very good in that role. I'm just like, I'm not ready to put him in all-star games for the next five years. That's what I'm saying. Let's talk about what Nazem Khedri did to you. Well, that suspension that one time, I was involved that night. Where did he hit you? Where did he hit you?

The same place he hit Ovechkin Damn Nice purpley bruise So are you saying Marleau's not playing with Matthews? That's what you're telling me right now? Not right away Come on I don't think so

It doesn't matter That's the beauty of it Are you serious? It's like the conversation I have with Leaf fans Where whenever I put Matt Martin in the lineup They're like, you think Matt Martin should be in the lineup? I'm like, that's not what I said I said he's going to be in the lineup

You know what I mean? Patrick Marleau made the playoffs 12 out of 13 years in the fucking state of California he left California to not play with Austin Matthews is what you're telling me but it doesn't matter you just shuffle

lines as the year goes on like how often have you seen lines stay completely the same only the weeks last year yeah they barely changed anybody until like as soon as they sent what's his face from the Senators down not greening not greening

yeah once McCullough was out, then it was Connor Brown in, and lineup basically stayed the same, and then Kapanen and Boyle were added towards the end. And those lines were those lines. Yeah, but you just added a guy who said, so it's going to be

a little bit of trial and error to see where this guy fits. Right. And Leaf fans should be okay with that, even though their roster did relatively stay the same, including Zach Hyman, which pitched everybody off. The best trial and error, though. Yeah, no, You've got a guy who scored 500 career goals,

and you're shuffling them with all these young stars. Yeah, that's what's going to happen. Marleau busts his knee, misses the entire season. Their lineup is still better up front than it was last year because Dominic Moore is your fourth center, and nothing else has changed. By what? It's better by 5%.

By 6%? You could play on a second line, and I put that in air parentheses, and then play first power play time. Yeah. Like, so it's six and one half dozen to the other until you find what works, and then you go with it. Matthews, Marlow, Marner, first power play. That would be ridiculous.

Are you okay with three years and all the money? Yeah, because you're not paying the guys real money until then anyway. I'm completely fine with that. Although there was a snippet I saw today that I think – Oh, I love snippets. Nylander told the media his people are talking to the Leafs. Now, they can't have that discussion until July 1st of next year, I think, technically. I think they can start –

They can talk, right? I don't think they can even talk. Well, the legalese of it is they can't talk until July 1st, but we all know that's a load of garbage. Yeah, of course. But William Nylander did say that today, which was kind of interesting. But, yeah, listen, the Marlowe thing I think has very little risk to it. I love it.

I think it's great. The league's changed, obviously, because you have to maximize when you have guys under control at lower prices. So the Leafs are saying, okay, we've got a guy in here that can help right now and see if we can take that next step with these young guys because as Calgary ran in, like Calgary of all teams, runs into you've got to get guys and move them along because we've hit what?

Like, what did they hit? A second round? Yeah. And then they're too good to keep together? Makes no sense. So the Leafs are going to hit that. We keep being told they're too good to keep together. We're going to have to pay them too much money,

so why not try and take the step now? I mean, Lou's basically said that, right? Like Lou Amarillo basically said, this is fast forward. We hit the fast forward button Want to go old school Twitter questions Yeah do you guys want Some Twitter questions

Yeah are there Twitter questions The big one we're getting Asked is Why is it Tim instead of In front of Sid Why is it Tim

Because the other way We got cancelled That is correct We used to be Sid and Tim People think we're kidding When we say that It was score tonight

With Sid and Tim Score tonight Score tonight Sid and Tim They pulled us in a meeting And said we don't like This no more Yeah

and so it was in the basement of an Italian restaurant yeah the guy played violin in the back one night

they rented the back room at Scatabouche what was the supper club what was Frank D'Angelo's supper club forget about his supper club forget about his supper club

yeah there you go yeah show me who you hang out with and I'll tell you who you are that was a new movie yeah there you go is that what that is Frank D'Angelo's

breakfast television from the neighborhood the neighborhood living in the moment I'm going to stop talking about Frank D'Angelo yeah so

what was the question Twitter question that's the reason it's not yeah there's no rockets to the science no not at all we just went to a podcast

and like we got cancelled as Sid and Tim let's go Tim and Sid see how this works out Jersh wants to know sup Jersh

and plus I'm way better so I go first way better you're way too early Stanley Cup prediction Stanley Cup prediction I think Kadri's one of the cons

I think there is there is nothing dumber than a Stanley Cup prediction because this league is insane man like this lead there is nothing crazier than the National Hockey League where they have convinced every superstar to not make the max they every team has movement every team is so up against the

cap and the cap hasn't moved by the way Despite all these new arenas I'm not predicting it I resent the question By the way I resent the question Earlier in the show He predicted that the Canadians

Would not make the playoffs But the Canadians Are not making the playoffs Why is that? Harry Price Because Jonathan Drouin Is going to get swallowed up By the Montreal thing

And we all know What the Montreal thing is Right? It's like it It's it By the way The fucking clown thing With that trailer

Is the scariest thing Oh We gotta Listen I know they're paying good money to advertise I'm freaking out every time I see that commercial

I already got tickets for Saturday you're going? I'm so excited tell me how it ends I don't mind the spoilers they shot it down the street

from Steve's house they shot the you know the big scary house in Oshawa they didn't have to do much to the house I have a bit of or the smell

actually they pulled the clown out of the bar it was crazy just down the street they didn't even pay they just didn't pay for the booth

I would never mess with a schwa like that. I am eliminating myself from that conversation. Refusing. There was a guy who was involved in a movie somehow, and anyway, he was going down to that shoot. They set up this big, scary house in Oshawa, and he's walking down the street, and he's going, man, they did a really good job.

Like, is there a flip-flop down? You found the most peace in God's peace? And then he realized he was still a block away from the set. I'm not making fun of my city That is a real story that happens Are you from Scarborough? And then you went to Oshawa Because it's cheaper

They are similar How long have you been taking HGH? Because your arms are Do they drug test on the show or not? I guess not No you can be on any drugs The rage You have not yelled in this entire

No you haven't Because on the podcast, I'm relatively normal-ish. Yeah. It's funny. Everybody says that, and then I guess because we, I mean, I've known Steve since high school. We've been buddies forever, and I don't know him to be a yeller, but when you do watch those videos, you are yelling a lot. So that's how everybody knows you.

You fucking criticized me for buying a $60 James Reimer figure, knowing how much I love James Reimer. God damn it. That's in my room. That's the only time. That's in my room forever. I love my James. I wish he was still a leaf.

Did you guys know that? You know those plastic dolls that grown men buy? Figures! He bought one for $60, and it was a James Reimer one. It's rare. And they said, well, there's only a limited amount of these made. And I said, Steve, that's because only a limited audience would buy that. Bullshit! Bullshit! Go try to buy one today!

$60 fucking dollars. Smackaroos, and I'd do it again. I went online, I told a story on air. I was looking for a trophy from the man cave. Like a soccer trophy. Portugal won the European Championship last summer. so I go on uefa.com he's Portuguese

background's Portuguese I've heard so I'm like I want the trophy for just to set up somewhere so I'm like I find the 60 centimeter trophy

it's like it's like 100 euros and I'm like I'm dumb enough where I'm gonna do this 100 euros that's a lot of money and ship it

and shipping shipping so UPS got me that way and it showed up it came showed up at the door and my wife gets it

and she's like I think there's something wrong with this I'm like what do you mean and it was like a little bit bigger than a jewelry box it wasn't 60 centimeters I read it wrong online it was 60 millimeters it was smaller than

your phone and I paid 100 plus euros for it which still isn't as bad as the James Reimer it's not as bad as that I hang into my room with pride and there's a picture right next to it of me with

My James I call him My James It's My James With the Florida Panthers starter Why don't Portuguese soccer players Yes, starter Don't you forget Sorry, what?

Why don't Portuguese soccer players Want to pay their taxes? I don't want to pay my taxes Who wants to pay their taxes? Find me the guy who goes You know what? I'm going to get up this morning I really want to pay some taxes

Find me that person The Spanish government's Corrupt bastards, that's why They're going after people All the time Went after Messi, Ronaldo Just the big ones Tim will tell you

Tim wrote the story Speaking of Portuguese people Your brother Is also in sports broadcast The one with real talent Yes Oh absolutely

And he's a Portuguese person Just to put that out there He's actually Slovenian Quacks the border early Euro 2000 was a big moment for him Getting in there for the first time Is it a coincidence You guys both got into the same field

Or He We never talked about it Because six arrows don't talk about their feelings much. But he, in later years, he told me that I was his massive inspiration for life. And maybe I'm overshooting it a little bit, but...

That doesn't sound like him. No, but he wanted... We both have loved... Sports was always... Our dad's a huge sports fan. Sports has always been a huge part of the house. It's just... It's kind of...

It's fluky how it worked out, but it's been really cool. Because more people probably listen to him in a week than watch me. I would, if you're doing the math on it Yeah, he's one of those guys who you know, it's not prominent like he doesn't have his name on a show title

but he's on the air every, you know He's getting more air time than a lot of people, I'll tell you that He's done, Alex has done phenomenally well He's one of the best broadcasters in the country, he's better than me and we are both Portuguese, yes And you're also Portuguese And both, really? Was he a dick about it or was he okay?

You got him coffee? I think so, a few times Yeah, him and Andrew Nye So is that why when I offered to buy you coffee and bring it into the studio today, you referred to me as your intern? Because I've never had one. I wanted to have one. I was busy getting Bob McCow and his coffee. To which my response was, some of us don't forget our roots.

Oh. Wow. I'm not Sean McKenzie, sir. And you're lifting weights, too. I'm actually kind of sort of scared. I love your traps. I'll be your trapper. Great trap.

Come on and wind me up. When you've been working out, I don't get it. You just look all swole. I miss tight shirt Thursdays in the email. This is a regular V-neck. No, but you didn't wear a V-neck when you weren't as swole. You're 100% correct. You can only wear V-necks when you work out a little bit.

They weren't on stage at Puck Talks tonight. There was a little plug. Hey, accentuate the positive, all right? Look at that. Well, it's like, so I've really only started working out like the last two or three years, and I've noticed ever since, like, Men will just walk up to you and they'll like mug you. They'll feel you like, hey, look at you, what have you been doing here, buddy?

So they just start feeling you up and grabbing you. Is today leg day? What was today? Today was arm day? No, I just did a few push-ups at home. Waist day? Yeah, yesterday was kind of all around with a lot of abs because I have none. And this is to distract from this. And I did some sprints. Sprints?

Wow, sprints. And Wild's too busy to do any of this. Well, I... I'm not running unless something scary is chasing me I'm too busy to work out But he's sitting on the money maker Right now You haven't seen it

What the hell are you talking about You mean he's got a fantastic ass For the record I have the nicest ass in this room Oh wow I mean we may have to have an ass on Oh yeah there are cameras Melanie Ng from BT Actually told me the other day

She's like your ass is like a shelf She's like, I could put my coffee on your ass. That was a compliment? Yeah, I was like, is that a good thing? She's like, yeah, yeah, no, it's good. I'm like, okay, good, thank you. Oh, she went up, though? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, so maybe not. I grew up in a Jamaican neighborhood. It's important. Yeah, that was a big thing in my neighborhood. If you could put a drink on an ass. I walked by two women the other day, and I heard from the corner of my ear, them cakes, though. What's amazing about that

Is it's another lie And he just thought of it That's awesome I heard it That's my construction It's very rude Yeah Very rude

But it's not like Adam Wilde's Have you seen it? It's like a shelf Adam can I say I think you're great on BT man You do everything well Your radio show's great I watch you on BT every morning

I think you do a phenomenal job Wow Ditto I think you're fantastic I'm waiting for the butt No there's no Dangle you suck I'm on my YouTube

I was on Sportsnet last year. No one said anything. Dangle, I can't wait to see you on camera one day. I reached out to you. I stopped you. That is true. I stopped you and I said that I like the stuff and if I can ever do anything. And then you said, go F yourself.

And then we were constantly talking about Tiff. Yeah. Then Jesse had to come talk. Is that a property, brother? I need a new fence. Can you make me a fence? Hey, we're at Tiff. Let's have a drink.

watch a movie that's exactly what i said that's pretty good it's pretty good next question we talked about this a little before the show uh but hard i want to know if you miss radio yeah yeah yeah yeah i said uh i said before the show i said immensely i just it's just a different feel it was way we're rushed every day and tv trying to hit everything yeah hit everything at times it's like it's it's rewarding as hell don't get like oh yeah just to say that and we get things that we would never get anywhere else we get guests all those things that we'd never get anywhere else but there is a there was an odd uh and and even in radio some days we'd feel really rushed but i think it's because we prepared and have stuff we wanted to do but there was this

odd freedom no i'm saying that was the lighter it's like we prepared and we had stuff to talk to say but uh there was a weird freedom with it which was unique and we let a lot of people in like i you know breaking news i kind of let people into my world which is kind of messed up a little bit yeah my idiosyncrasies and tim's tim has less idiosyncrasies than i do but radio is very personal that way you got as you guys know you gotta put yourselves out there a little bit or you're not gonna get anything back yeah and uh it's it's it's risky to do that day in and day out but it was also fun as hell it was challenging and fun at the same time it is a it is a challenge every day radio is tough radio is a real like everything i would feel like everything else i

do is easy compared to radio and i don't do like you know with with my afternoon show it's like you know you're talking for two or three minutes and then you get a couple songs an hour do you do the hit i i think we're we're talking a grand total and for us for pop radio it's a lot it's like 10 minutes an hour um it is a lot but for um but for you guys you're talking 45 minutes an hour between the two of you right isn't that isn't that what the fan clock looks like radio was 40 by the time we left was 42 minutes that's we had two eight minute breaks i think is what we have That's tough, and I don't think people realize how hard that is. No calls.

No calls, too. Yeah, but there was two of us. True. He would enjoy doing the show alone. When I was there alone, I was like, I hate this. Yeah. Like, I'll take calls. Let's do anything.

But I don't want him to give off the impression he wasn't good at hosting alone. But it's just not natural. Yeah. Who talks for 42 minutes? I do it all the time. Actually, now that I think about it. day. No one's better at talking to myself than me. I've oftentimes

tried to convince him to do a podcast, but I just know he won't work any more than he really has to. So that we can get that feel back of the radio. So you guys like, do you think you'll ever be able to do both? We were asked to do both. Yeah? We were asked to do both. It'd be a lot.

It'd be a lot. No, and it was presented as such. There was respect for it, definitely, when it was pitched. I don't remember that. It wasn't in the air for long, because I think I made a face. But, you know, I would die, but it's doable. Right. Fair enough.

You could do three hours with a two-hour TV show and then just hate the world, but do you want to hate the world? How much of a score tonight remains in Tim and Sid in this arc? Or Sid and Tim. No, Sid and Tim didn't end well. Didn't end well. Neither will Tim and Sid. Let's be honest. Like, how much from the podcast?

So you're saying we're Revenge of the Sith, regardless of what we do here. The end of that movie is how we're going to end. I just watched the Mike and Mad Dog 30 for 30. How great is that? We are huge Mike Francesa fans. Do you guys follow the Twitter account that just puts out his funny moments? The moments that Mike messes up? I have not followed, but yeah.

Or when he falls asleep on air? Yeah. Or when people call. I guess people just, because he takes calls all show, right? So people call in and ask him about the devils or whatever. It's four hours of radio. He hangs up on them. He hangs up like, he's just like, I don't know anything about hockey.

That is a, my favorite part about that documentary, and I was telling Steve about this, and if you haven't seen the Mike and Mad Dog, 30 for 30, you got to. My favorite moment was they talk about the first day they walk into the studio, right? And these guys don't even like each other. They don't know each other. They don't know each other. They sort of worked on the station, but they're like, meh. And then they talk about the power chair moment.

Do you remember that? Yeah. Mike Francesa sits down in the power chair and Mad Dog's like upset about this and what was amazing about this

is it's just a it's just a fucking chair but he's mad about it for years but to some people it's not a chair it's not a chair it's the power chair

says the guy who would want the power chair it's not a big deal it's not a big deal but I want that fucking chair we uh a true story when we sat down

for our first show at the fan when we had moved over uh there was a power chair that Bob McCowan sits in Bobcats yeah

And Sid and I walked into the studio And we purposely left the middle chair Alone and sat on both sides Of the middle chair But out of respect for each other too But the boss was like who's sitting in that chair He really wanted to see Don Collins it was like

He was the emperor of Rome watching And he wanted to see a fight to the death Nobody's sitting in that chair Guests only That's it When you walk into a station with a legend like that and you guys are the young guys, and you're the up-and-comers, and everybody's talking about you, and this guy's been there for 20 years

and syndicated and been here since day one. He launched the station. Is there any sort of awe moment? Like, oh, my God, we're leading into his show now. Like, this is crazy. I grew up with this guy. Well, I think after our first show on air, and I think what was the show that day? We had Brian Colangelo, and I think we asked Brian,

two questions and it went for like 25 minutes brian likes to talk love brian um but then the plan was stay for bob's first segment at four so our we're done and there's some euphoria that you get through the first one so we're done the plane has taken off and then for me personally just tim and i were on the same side and in hindsight it was kind of funny it was like we were kind of huddling next to each other in a corner out of not out of fear but out of something else and Bob sat in the chair and we just kind of looked at each other for like 30 seconds and no one

really knew what to say. And it was just, to me that was an interesting moment. I was like, that's an icon. That's an icon. That's a guy I've been listening to my entire life. It's like being in a dream, right? A little bit. This is silly. A little bit. There was a lot of those

moments when we started. I was going to say out of reverence, like you were sure, like it wasn't out of fear, it was out of reverence. That's the word I should use. This is like, this is for both of us it was really easy because for me it was really easy because i love this guy like he's really good at the craft and this guy is like a legend and we're sitting there on his show and we got to do round tables and all those things and the funny thing is even though we made the jokes about jay and dan earlier there's still that like i have that same sort of respect for

them and what they do and maybe even people will try and turn whatever we said at the start into something that we we don't same thing with with mccowan like when we sat down there even though he crushes us on the radio now there's an like off air i'll talk to him there's a reference that i have because he sat he's done it for 25 years and done it at the top of the game for 25 years and i think francesa is probably the only other guy that you could talk about that has done that yeah like there's two guys in north america that have done it mccowan's one of them so it's like when we were on that show I never thought I would do radio period so to be on that show

I was like excited like that was awesome for me to sit there and just go like and that look that we gave each other was like holy shit we're sitting on McCowan's show like it's two kids who grew up like I was on Yonge Street when the Jays won the World Series like that was the launching pad for McCowan

and the fan it was just like a very cool moment in your career and in terms of Bob and Jay and Dan and other guys who kind of put themselves out there who've done it for a while or who have personality or who take risks, I respect anyone who does that. Especially in sports.

Because I think there's a lot of people playing it safe in our fucking business. I really believe that. I think there's a lot of people who are a little uncomfortable to be themselves and are amazing at it, but will never see it.

And Tim and I were lucky where we came from personality in a way. That was our base. That's always been our base. But to do what Jay and Dan does is not easy. To do what Bob does is not easy. That takes a lot of risk.

And there are a lot of people who have failed in this business trying to do that in medium to small markets so anyone who does it at this level and isn't safe i have nothing but respect for those people because it is it is at times not easy being the risk takers like i don't want to make myself a martyr and some no but sometimes it's from ignorance sometimes it's from ignorance where you're just like this is how i'm going to be this is my personality this is how like this is it and then you realize oh crap like all these guys that do this get fired

You know what I mean? All these guys who laid it out on the line Either are really good at it or get fired really quickly And are moving on Sometimes you try something and it sucks Like the dangle dial for example Hold on Who said the dangle dial sucks?

Most of Toronto I'm pretty sure And Adam actually yes Two things I love about the dangle dial One, you Two, how pissed Blair gets I am a huge fan of the dangle dial For various reasons. Never stop doing it.

That's dead. It's dead? Oh, man, that's been gone for a long time. Since when? I'll call Julie right now. We'll figure it out. She stopped taking my calls a long time ago. That was Don's baby.

But you just did your thing. That's why I respect you. You just did your thing. And then all these people were like, hey, we like it. And then the bosses were forced to go, holy shit, what is this? What are all these people looking at? Why are they? and then all of a sudden you're on Sportsnet

doing the exact same thing, which is amazing. You put yourself out there, people enjoyed it, and here you are. Which people said you'd never do. People told you you'd never do that. And people would say it in comments, people would say it in like you know, people... You couldn't do it the same way. Right. Yeah, it would never

work for whatever. Blank. Yeah. Yeah, and that's, I mean, that's, I feel like, you know, because I'm an outsider, right? I'm not a sports guy or I didn't come in as a sports guy. I've always been a sports fan. You're a decent sports guy, though. Well, I appreciate that.

If I can be decent, that's good right now. I'd like to be better. Dangle's arm goes over the shoulder of Adam Wilde. Adam Wilde looks uncomfortable while his arm moves over the shoulder. But there's a nice smile going back to their high school days. They both have tight t-shirts on. Steve wore a v-neck to accentuate his traps. But the thing about the two of you is that I feel like when we started doing this show,

we felt like oh my god we we we have license to to do this because you've done it because you had done it because you were not afraid to be yourselves you did you did a podcast it went somewhere and then we did a podcast and was kind of like you know it took off for us relatively quickly as well and not in the same way but i think what what's been amazing is watching you guys continue to do the two of you the way you've always sort of done the two of you and it breaks every sort of mold that sports is supposed to be which is serious and buttoned down and whatever and what I remember like when I watch you guys

and we watch it we have it in the studio every day in the afternoon really? yeah we have it on in the studio every day

there's no sound on no sound but I'm watching best sounding that's the best sound in the show ever we're muted but you know just cause we're so

incredibly good looking well of course of course and my nice ass yeah it's his ass it's not a shelf I'm sorry no no it's all good

as I said it's not a shelf ass is all I'm saying it's not as good damn cakes though you can't rest a margarita on it continue old Ikea butt I just feel like it's amazing that you've been able to do that, and it gives us kind of like hope, like, hey,

it's not the worst thing in the world that we're not super serious, because sports are supposed to be fun, right? Aren't they? But I agree with you. I think you're bang on. I think where I get my back up sometimes is people just want you to be that 24-7. And I think Tim and I are a very nuanced show in that regard. I think we enjoy having enjoyable moments.

I think We enjoy having enjoyable moments That was like an old political way of saying We should put that on a t-shirt by the way We enjoy having enjoyable moments We also enjoy having non-enjoyable moments What? No I'm just saying there's layers to both of us

In a big way And I just I think that has to be acknowledged You could just say that people don't get it People don't get it People think it's just like Shits and giggles all the time Everyone in this building watches the show all the time

And the same No but the same the whole way and you guys are going to get the same thing and you've probably felt it where it's like you do something that people like but they don't realize that people are tuning in because every one of those posts, every one

of those shows actually has content that is comes from knowledge and they don't care they just want the viral 30 second clip of you holding up the... Yeah, woman scores a goal big game, ice dancing rant, whatever the hell it is but there's

like a hundred shows, and if those were the only moments, no one would ever listen because it would just be boring. There's got to be more than that. So what he's saying is... Well, how do you escape like a typecast? Because it's like you said earlier. It's like, hey, you haven't been screaming.

Like, I've been getting that a lot lately. Like, oh, I thought you'd just be screaming the entire time. I heard it on the podcast, so I was just breaking your balls. Hey, I'm honored. I said that to you before. There was someone recently who said that. Chris Johnson, but I think he was kidding.

I don't think he was kidding. He told me after he wasn't kidding. He told me he was pretty serious about it. Are you a yell? This is what I really want to know because do you yell when you watch the game? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's very difficult to get my attention, but watching hockey, like, Jesus,

that's all I can focus on, and I'm yelling and screaming. So my dad played minor pro and knew a lot about hockey, and I had to sit and watch every game in silence. No. Like, that was our thing. And I, to this day, can't watch big games in bars because I can't stand the guy like Dangle yelling at the TV. And if he doesn't know,

and if he doesn't know what he's talking about, it makes me even more mad. I've seen you in a bar. You keep it together in a bar. I've seen you in a... I keep it together. So you're sitting at the TV going, what are you doing, Mironov?

Something like that, yeah. Why are you going to put Mironov in a room? It was a court cross. No, it was more Caberla What are you doing Caberla Caberla Be better, I know you can Caberla

You know what was the best was the Randy Carlisle years Cause his wife No one ever says that That was the only good thing I used to get videos from his wife Like, are you watching the game right now And I'd be like, yeah, and I'd be at my girlfriend's house Or something like that, and it would just be

She'd just send me a video, and it'd be Steve going holy fuck because that was my question how do you stay friends with a guy in high school and who are the Leafs when you're in high school like they were the Raycroft

so post can opener McCabe Raycroft dealt for so you are just losing your mind yeah past due Tucker past due Domi right approaching the end and completely alone matt sundin yeah because that's why you're loved

and yet if you sat beside me i would want to pull your shirt over your head and just start pounding if i was watching a game with you i can keep it together in public but the one the one game the the clinch game against pittsburgh this year the second last game yeah uh me and my wife were supposed to go to a party and i almost didn't go like like it was the last minute she's like just come, just come. Because I'm like, I know there's going to be people there, and like, I'm just going to scream. And like, it's, you know,

puck goes in off Gardner in the third period, and I'm just, like, holding onto the couch like it's a ride. By the way, it had to be Gardner. It had to be Gardner! It wasn't even his fault. It has to be the guy. No, but it was like when McCabe scored on our own net against Buffalo.

It had to be McCabe. It had to be McCabe. Couldn't have been anyone else. It had to be McCabe. Anyway. Anyway! Can I Can I say something? Sorry, yes. Before we wrap up, I just don't know when we're wrapping up. Yeah, we're wrapping up here soon. I want to say this now.

I think you are fantastic, Dangle. I think you are great. See, here comes mine. I'm giving him another one, but I'm going to do this for you. What do you mean by another one? All kidding aside, with the drunken incident with Jesse at TIFF, you're fantastic. You put in the work, again, what people don't acknowledge and don't talk about, and maybe it's typecast, but you put in the work.

you just editing those hustler you edit them one of my favorite moments from you though when was you were not yelling was when you were in the battles of the cbc for the draft lottery when the leafs got the first pick and you were periscoping it oh yeah yeah and it was so obvious how your head wanted to literally explode in the moment leading up to it but you were like i i want to keep we're in the cb it was like golf i'm in the cbc building i just passed jeff merrick i need to keep it cool they're gonna take my swipe card away and then when it hit it was just beautiful because we all knew you wanted to lose everything inside of you and you didn't and that was great i just want to say i'm a huge fan of yours and you're fantastic

oh gosh wow and wild i said the thing about you jesse you were drunk last year and i won't forget that was really inappropriate honestly i apologize embarrassed a lot of people at rogers Jesse's the only one that had the balls to come up Yeah I just wanted to say that before we wrap up You were one of the first people who When I got my job at Sportsnet made me feel like Okay this is actually going to work

I think because I got the job in September How did you feel when you first got here? Terrified I looked at it as a different opportunity Because it was behind the scenes It was that prep sheet That I annoyed you guys with every morning I read them all

I didn't. He's lying through his teeth. But I sent that thing to 1,100 people. I guarantee you in St. Thomas, Ontario. That's what the radio station really wants you to know. I think some of them did. Some mornings I got a lot of emails like, thank you, you really saved my ass this morning. But towards the end of the season, I made a huge mistake.

I made all the links bitly so I could see how many people clicked them. It made me feel very bad. Some things you should never just know. You should never know. Just let it go. So, it was very bad. But, no, it was behind the scenes. I looked at it as, like, a fresh start.

I was tired of getting laid off. It was just starting to get to the point where people were starting to ask questions about, oh, so you also do these videos? Like, can we maybe feature them on the website? And then the frigging Nashville game happened, the 9-2 Nashville game. And I go completely berserk, you know, head blows up. I wake up to tweets that a few clips were on 680 that morning. And I had to walk into the the Sportsnet offices

This guy friggin stands up and just go Steve Dangle Like who the hell is this guy Sorry, so I hope sorry. I made okay. Sorry. I made another human feel good. Yes See? Believe it or not. That can happen. I pointed at McAllen for those listening on podcast. McAllen believes I have the spawn of the devil.

And Derek Daisy's right. Well, guys. Trace the sword, Portuguese. I know we both have shows that we've got to get to after this, so we want to wrap it up. But I hope this is not the... I don't, so let's keep going. I hope this isn't the last time because I could sit here and the next time we should have like a, like, you know, mid-hockey season so we can actually go through some real events

because it's kind of a quiet time right now. Yeah. But it's been so awesome to finally get this together. and thank you so much for coming on we really appreciate it pleasure the power is strong

in this podcast and what you guys are doing so anytime I felt the power when you said we were coming on which is very cool because I remember

when we first got like the Twitter universe to speak on our behalf and it was awesome when they did that because it got us other jobs

and then when you guys tweeted out that we were coming on the show I was like oh I didn't get that much traction on Twitter

the force is strong with these guys I haven't had that much traction since I said the Raptors were going to lose to the Bucs after the third game. You've had a... One more. I'm so sorry, one more.

What's it like on a platform as big as yours when you goof? Because the big one for you that keeps it, like it still gets retweeted today, was right before the Jays got like too low in price. You're like, ah, this team's

cooked. Oh, I said they should fold the franchise. like every day it was it was that that run was quite interesting on social media because there was a quite the breadth of douchebag tweets that led up to it and then they'd make this crazy ridiculous run so what i mean here's the one thing i never i've never deleted a tweet i'll say that maybe i should but i've never deleted a tweet if you if you tweet it it is what it is i've stopped tweeting entirely i don't do it anymore oh really yeah it got it got ridiculous but uh And then I realized, I have a show with this guy. But that's the guts.

We could sit here and do it, and you guys know it. You could sit here and do a show where you just talk back and forth, but it's not that entertaining. So to have someone who has guts to say something and then sit there as I grill him on what he just said, I don't know if people understand how tough that is because you get that blowback from a lot of people who want to say you were dead wrong on this

and they'll never say you were completely right on this. Andrew Walker, who just went out to Vancouver for Sportsnet 650, someone dug up a tweet about the Canucks and what was it about? Milan Lucic? I can't remember the context. Forgive me. I'm forgetting it. It was basically like, I'm glad the Bruins won in 2011.

Because he was working in Calgary. He was working in Calgary. But some douchebag living in his mom's basement goes up and down the feed. Sorry, Dangle. Who lives above ground in their own shitty Cinema house that they used for a horror film In Oshawa In Oshawa

But like that's That was a huge It just got ridiculous like that I once tweeted and I still laugh at this About the J's This is J.P. Aaron Seabee's team Once every six months I get it back

Because I haven't deleted it But once every six months I get it He had like two home runs That night He did Was that his first game No no not the first game

But like he would have had a run Before he yelled Zani And they ran him out of town Right But Anyway Social media is just It's ridiculous

But I appreciate Tim saying that But that's But the Walker incident Was one of like thousands Sometimes I just want to defend them Like I've told them a couple times Where I'm like And then you meet the people

Who actually say it And then they want to shake your hand And it's not the same I gotta be honest You know what I mean I was at a I was at a pitch talks Because you were at puck talks tonight

Yes I was at a Pitch Talks, and someone who had been up my ass, who I will not name, I ran into on social media, all over me. And I went with Azzo, the old producer. I go, Azzo, watch this. So I walk right over, and I tap. I go, how you doing, man? He's like, good, good. Very sheepishly.

Very sheepishly. And I'm like, good to see you, man. And I walk back. this guy was buying me beers by the end of the night because I was cool with it but fuck it I will

never forget that shit and most people the point of the story is people on social media are fucking cowards I'll tell you right now they are fucking cowards some 100% of the people

every one of them including everybody in the room Everybody in the room! Everybody listening! School kids! Your mom! Look into that camera. Let's keep the mothers out of this. Your grandma! Your nonna!

Actually, my nonna's not on. My nonna's not on. If your nonna was on Twitter, that would be the best. That would be fantastic. I'm opening an account. Nonna's tweets. Nonna's tweets are just cowards. Everyone.

My point is just like... You know, you know, we all know that these people, when they come up to your face, are just fucks, and they're not going to say anything. No, but they can't say that, because now someone's going to come up to you. Let him! And I'm like, hey, what did you say? I'm doing my traps with the angle of the mic. Let him!

Just bring him with you. No. I'm talking about you right now. Ooh, you. Honestly, Jesse, you're the straw that stirs the strength. You guys are terrible, and you do a fantastic job. He absolutely is. I want to get that one.

He absolutely is. you're fantastic so thanks hey guys somebody finally say thank you so much for coming on guys

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