The Steve Dangle Podcast - Vegas, Baby | January 3, 2018

Episode Date: January 4, 2018

On this episode, Andrei Vasilevskiy is a god (00:00), Jonathan Marchessault signed an extension with the VGK and HOW THE HELL ARE THEY IN FIRST?!? (15:00), the Edmonton Oilers are terrible (40:00), the Penguins trade stove is on fire (50:00), the JVR stick is going to the Hall of Fame (1:10:00), Adam doesn't care about the All Star captains (1:15:00), wrestling is fake (1:23:00), and the press conference (1:37:00). Originally aired: January 3, 2018 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/kWk5w6JPucA Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Subscribe to us on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/steve-dangle-podcast/id669828195?mt=2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Panago Pizza presents S.T.P. The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam West. Uh, forget Stamkos, Kucherov, and Nemestnikov. The best line in hockey is Andrei Vasilevsky. Yes. Wow. Yeah, you know what's funny?

Yeah, I didn't put enough emphasis on how good he was in the LFR video. Like, I was so completely unbothered by that loss. The one thing about it that made me the most upset was they could have won. They were in it the whole time. One, it was two really dumb blunders. And even with those, any mortal goalie would have given up a goal or two in that game. But it was Andre Vasilevsky. I got a tweet from somebody saying that I guess I previously said that I wasn't sure Vasilevsky was good enough.

I just didn't know. Heading into the season? Yeah. I don't think. And there's nobody that could have known that. I did. Yeah, Jesse did. Well, of course, Jesse did.

Elliott Friedman even mentioned it, that some of his teammates told Elliott directly that they had no idea. They didn't know he was this good. I don't think Andre Vasilevsky knew he was this good. Sergey Bobrovsky won the Vezina last year with a 9-3-1 save percentage. Vasilevsky, 33 games into the season for him,

is a 9-3-7. Like, he's almost a 9-4. According to NHL.com, it's a 9-4. Apparently they've changed it back, by the way. Good. It was an error. Correct. Because I got a message from somebody who I believe works for NHL.com

who was like, hey, we've switched it back. Stop ripping them every show. Yeah. Big Brother is always watching. I'm sorry, folks who work there. Hey, I'm sure the people who work there put in good hard work. Absolutely they do. But it's, dude, the setup's awful.

Apparently it was an error. It wasn't even meant to be rounded to that point anyway. It just happened. That's what they said. It just happened. Okay, fair enough. Mistakes happen. For example, the miscommunication between Freddie Anderson and Andreas Borgman on the first goal.

Oh, man. Or, for example, the Tampa Bay Lightning having an even-strength power play on the second goal. There were three Leafs, three Lightning, in comes another Lightning, where are the other Leafs? They're all gone. Should have been able to win that game. But I'm encouraged. I'm encouraged. I'm encouraged for the back half.

I'm very excited for the back half. Tell me why. Because they've looked, as I've said time and time again, fragile. Fragile. Yes, totally. But they got five more games now at home that they can build off of. They get to play a lot of really good teams. And notice that I say they get to play them.

And I like that the standard is going to be raised in the back half. Their next game is against the Sharks. They got the Blues on this home stand. They got Tampa, I think, four more times this season. They got a lot of hard games. And I expect them to win a lot of them because I think they're at home more than they're away. And they get a lot of rest.

They get a lot of rest. January is a little condensed. Go look at March. They're sleeping during March. Well, that's good, though. Right before the playoffs, hopefully. I agree. They've got to keep getting it.

Wholeheartedly agree. Keep winning. Yeah, no, they get a couple crazy breaks in March. So when you're heading into the playoffs, you want to be healthy, which having all those days off helps you achieve that goal. And you also want to be playing the best hockey you can be. I think you play the best hockey you can be by playing the best teams you can be, and they get to do that in the second half.

Plus the Sens a couple times Jazzy Last year The Leafs Had the final playoff spot With 95 points Yes And they are on pace

To get 96 points this year Great 48 times 2 Yeah Improvement Great Yesterday Is that gonna be enough?

No but yesterday I thought the projection Was like 98 Had they won yesterday It would be like What is it now? Well it's 41 And they've

Yeah So like I think like I mean whatever What do the Panthers Have to No So I keep getting too caught up on, look, the Leafs are going to make the playoffs because the rest of the Atlantic sucks.

That's not good enough. Because then I was thinking, all right, what if the Leafs make the playoffs this year and they're one and done? They don't make it out of the first round. Who's satisfied with that? Oh, I don't think anybody's satisfied with that. I'd be satisfied with that. No.

Would you? Because they're still building. I think they are. I think we keep forgetting that. I want one round, though. Yeah, but that's a fan. You're thinking about that. hey, okay, they did it last year.

They got into the playoffs. Now it's time to win. No. Only eight teams do that. They should be able to beat the Bruins. They should be able to beat the Bruins, who are ahead of them right now. But the Bruins, outside of that top monster line,

and Rask, who's been really good, they've gotten some good goaltending this year. That's a young team. That's a young rebuilding team. Like Charlie McAvoy, a bunch of other ones. Earlier in the year, they were playing with guys who I thought were rumors. Have you heard this stat? Bergeron Marchand and David Pasternak had not allowed a five-on-five goal all season until last night.

Holy shit! Not one. Not one. That's crazy. And that's a line where you go, yeah, it's offensive firepower from start to finish. Guess what? Offense is a really good defense. The opposite is true, but they're both true. it's like a backpack full of weights it's like a defense it's like an offense full of defense

that's actually literally what it is as Jesse said 96 points do you think they surpassed 96? because I feel like up until this point they were on pace for more and had they won last night it would have been 98 had they beaten Colorado last week and won last night

or won the two games they should have won last week I still think that they allowed Vegas to stomp them there's no reason that they should They played very poorly If they'd won those games Or they'd taken Three of four points

Or something like that You were looking at A hundred points They're on pace for Right? Yeah but they didn't do Any of those things They didn't do any of those things

Three games and four nights They got three out of six points A win against Vegas Would have given them Five out of six Losing overtime Four out of six Whatever

You can do worse than 500 I would like them to do better Did you see Babcock's Morning press conference before the Lightning game? No. Either of you? No?

His best of the season. His best of the season. You immediately got a vibe. Like Babcock might as well have said, like he's running, he's panting, he's out of breath, heading into the thing, sweating. You'd swear he's a player who just got off the ice. I know he's a coach who just got off the ice,

but he shouldn't be sweating like that. And he might as well have said, all right, yeah, well, we're not fucking around anymore. I think that's what Freddy Gauthier is, by the way. They're done fucking around. He, there was not nearly a big enough deal made of what he said. I read, so I read some of those quotes. He basically goes, you know, I like, he was talking about how much he likes Gauthier.

And he was talking about, well, in the summer we had to do some things because Gauthier got hurt. Really? I could have swore Dominic Moore had a name, Mike. Dominic Moore, who didn't play in the Leafs' first game of the season. Babcock was not a fan of that signing at all and this isn't even the first Lou Amorello signing Babcock has

very clearly not been a fan of I mean there's the Frank Corrado signing and granted it's all been depth but calling up calling up Gauthier seemed like the beginning of alright we're done fucking around I don't know I just

I feel like he's because the back half The back half really started with the Tampa game, even though after that was done, it was the back half. Because, all right, it's January now. We're done screwing around. This is the second half of the season. We are a playoff team. I expect you to be a playoff team.

Fucking act like it. And I expect, if the Leafs look like crap, some things to happen. I don't know what those things are. And I also don't think they're going to play like that very often. They found another gear last year. I expect them to find it again this year. Well, they have more wins and more points than they did at this point last year. Yeah.

Which, you know, they should have. If they've won a couple games in the shootout, that probably helped. Yeah, that's actually true, yeah. So does everyone. You're supposed to. Now the question becomes, does the style of play that they're playing change? Because that very clearly doesn't fit the template of the players that they have. But it seems as though

There was a lesson Being taught Over the course Of the last 20 games This dump and chase Stuff The course he was low That

So shit to watch Getting terribly outshot Boring to watch They're not an exciting Team to watch right now Or weren't That Tampa game Was fantastic

There was five minutes Of amazing in there They still couldn't Play defense Yeah they could They could They made two Really bad blunders

That's gonna be enough though You can't do that I mean, the Borgman one was not that big of a blunder. I was perfect, except for the twice that I wasn't. I guess you're right. But I would say leading up to that point, that was fantastic hockey. Tampa was outchancing them. It was fantastic hockey.

I mean, we can also just admit that Tampa's better. You know? Not much to admit there. They are better. Exactly. But any team in the NHL could say that. Yeah. Except for Vegas.

Right. Right. Two of one, eight in a row at home. That's so insane. No, overall. Eight in a row. Oh, it's just eight in a row. They've won eight in a row.

At home. No, they've won eight in a row. Oh, just period. Yeah. But, I mean, at home, I wouldn't be surprised. I'd be surprised if it was only eight. How many aren't they? At home, it's probably longer.

Were they like 15 and two? Yeah. It's insane. Yeah, I think they have like three losses. Like two regulations. So what is it? Bare minimum, you have to go on like a six-game winning streak to have to win? That's insane.

Here's how it goes. These playoffs, folks. Are you ready? Vegas gets home ice. Vegas never loses at home. Vegas wins the cup. Some rich jerk Bet

I bet Like 10 grand On Vegas At the beginning of the season When they were 500 to 1 odds And they're I can't math

But I imagine they're happy Well I mean it would be The most successful Expansion franchise I think since Florida Right? The Panthers

In history Now here's hoping Here's hoping They don't have The same fate as Florida I mean They do have An arena in the right place

And everything seems to fall into place and good fans and whatever but like Florida you know Stanley Cup Finals appearance

nothing and that wasn't even that year no like this is the first yeah what do they have two years do they have two years before

were they in 92-93 or something something like that but even in two years that's impressive absolutely but this is stupid are we on

are we on Vegas do you want to be on Vegas I have I have Vegas stats if you want Vegas stats sure alright the records

set by the Vegas Golden Knights. There's a long list. Already? It's January 3rd. Longest point streak by a team at any point in inaugural season. They're at 13 straight games. They're 12-0-1.

That's a current streak. It is active. Longest win streak by a team at any point in their inaugural season. Eight games. Recorded most wins in a calendar month. They're all accurate. No, active. Oh, yes.

There's an accurate. We're fact-checking you. Fastest team in NHL history To reach 25 wins in their first season Fastest team to reach 50 points in their first season Latest regulation game winning goal In expansion era

By team inaugural season at 59-57 That's a fun little stat Fastest team in NHL history to reach 20 wins In their first season First team in NHL history to win 10 of first 12 home games Fastest team in NHL history To reach 15 wins at 22 games All right, I'm asleep.

You want more? No. There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten more NHL records that the Vegas set. You know what's great? I'm really excited for the show even more so now. Because I'm like, where is Jesse getting all this? And it's in his friggin' show prep for Tim and Sid. Yeah, I got Tim and Sid stats now.

It's a lot of fun. It's actually really helpful. He sent some stuff that I'm definitely going to refer to later. How many emails did you get now? All in a day? Yeah. Fuck, really? I bet it's a lot

It's ridiculous It's like north of 30 Really? Yeah I get Close to 60 or 70 emails For BT

Every day None of them involve me See these are just Fancy stats though Oh yeah That's cool Mine are fun Mine are like

Please load into cart A Blah blah blah You know like And then like Hey we missed the queue on that And it's like Oh my god There's a lot of stuff here

Can I send an email for that? Oh yeah Yeah well Here's the thing We Rogers in its infinite wisdom when it bought those television studios at Dundas

decided to put several floors between you and the people in the control room rather than putting the control room nearby and sometimes that is the case but it's there's also an elevator there that is constantly broken so there's no point in coming up and talking about it you have to email you have to

like it's just instant messenger the instant messenger with 70 people cc'd on it why isn't your control room right next to the studio that is a good question and i would ask three administrations ago of rogers media why they decided to do that i have no idea i have two questions the first one is for both of you the second one is for jesse um i am always living in fear of being impolite and so I respond

thank you for everything I find that passive aggressive thank you I'm trying to express thanks oh my god really so should I stop it depends on the context sometimes someone will post something of mine

and I know more than one person worked on it but I don't know who it was so I'll email the whole Sportsnet web desk thanks everyone that's fine Oh, that's fine, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, but now 30 people or something are getting this email like, I don't give a shit.

But if you're, like, emailing somebody and going, please get me a coffee, thank you. No! Oh, my God. Can you imagine that? Is that emails for coffees at BT? I'm not at BT, but I've seen them before. That's weird. They send snaps into a megaphone.

They're just going, get them. No, they don't do that. They have a bell at their table. Yeah, do it! Have you ever seen that episode of Curb? 13 mil, double sugar, got it! Do you watch Curb? You're an enthusiast?

I have seen some. Where Larry David builds the restaurant and everybody has bells at their desk, at their table? No. That's terrible. That sounds perfect. The second question, sorry, that was for Jesse. How were your first two days, sir?

Oh, my God, it's amazing. Is it fun? Fun thing that happened today. There was an error in something I tweeted out. Oh, good. Spelling mistake. I was so worried about spelling Jonathan Marshashosh name, last name correctly,

That I forgot an A in Jonathan, which was just... I was like, yes, I got Martians all right. And then I didn't even look at... Stupid Joe Nathan. Jonathan. So I deleted it. As you should have. Did you get aggressively corrected by Tim and Sid?

Yeah, I bet you did. I did get aggressively corrected. They are the... Sports fans are fucking tough, man. It's so brutal. It's like that scene in The Lion King where Simba stares up at the hill and all of a sudden thousands of wildebeests

come over the hill charging at them in a stampede. When you make a spelling mistake, you are Simba. You're absolutely right. And Twitter is

the wildebeest. And they're all yelling actually. Just a bunch of wildebeest with actually printed like shaving to the side. Oh no, it's the actually beast.

Spelling mistakes are something so simple, but people care so much about them. It's weird. Yeah, it happens all the time. By the way, I'm glad that... Are you sure? Wait, did you actually mean Jonathan? Did you really mean Jonathan? Did you mean something else? I can't tell you what you're talking about because the last name's spelled correctly,

but the first name's the one that's really throwing me. I'm so confused! I don't get it! Explain! Am I to be absorbing information about Jonathan Marcheseau? Or Jonathan Marcheseau, who I think you're

referring to there. Who, by the way, signed a very nice contract today. Yes. He did. So not bad on the average there, but the year breakdown, according to Pierre Lebrun,

is seven million in the first year, six in the second, five in the next two, and then 3.5 and 3.5. Great, great, great, great, great. And he already has more assists this season in 35 games than he did all last season in 75.

Holy mackerel. And he is on pace to beat his goals from last year as well. So he had 51 points last year. This guy is going to be well The 60 point range Yeah

And he's in the middle Of his prime By the time the contract's done He'll You know The sun will probably Be setting So is the salary

Sounds about right to me What gets me Is that He played A few games For the Tampa Bay Lightning And even went into The playoffs with them

A couple years ago What happened? I don't know It's funny Can you imagine Okay The Tampa Bay Lightning Are as good as they are

And Jonathan Marsh or so I know I know But I just I don't Like is it He probably would've been buried Everyone likes to think

That a team Like it's funny We yell and scream About you know Guys like You know Matt Martin And Leo Komarov

And stuff like that We all think that Teams are capable Of throwing out Four first lines It's simply not possible Like I've had a lot of people Tweet me recently

Like should the Leafs Call up Ben Smith I mean after all He is the team's He is the Marlies Leading goal And point scorer It's like

are you aware of Byron Frey's have you met Mike Zygomanis? Like that's TJ Brennan. Yes! Like that's not quite how it works. So would Marcheseau have succeeded as like a shutdown guy?

I don't know. I saw some chatter today about like you know yet another small guy another small guy who went overlooked but Justin Bourne was quick to correct like during the playoffs I think there was a game or two where Marcheseau was in the Tampa lineup

and Drouin was scratched. So, Tampa, it sounds like, just didn't have room for him and missed out. Florida is the team that screwed up.

Yeah. Boy, did they ever. Yeah. I don't... I would love to go back and look at what Florida's overall picture was because I'm really trying to understand

how they managed to lose Marcheseau, Riley, and a fourth. What? Wouldn't you want to say that not just in that particular moment, but all of last season with Florida? Oh, what's going on with Florida? Like, it was a, it was, I mean. You know how everyone's so mum on the fact that they suck? Oh, but they're getting better.

They got Dale Talon. Everyone's best friend. Everyone's, everyone's golf buddy. What I read today is that they're getting better. Everyone's text pal is back. Everyone's text. Okay, what are you suggesting? I'm suggesting that everyone's friend got his job back.

And they're happy that their friend got his job back. But they're four and one in their last five, Steve. Oh, you bet. Yeah. And they still sit. James Reimer. Their number one, second, their first, second, and third star. James Reimer.

Damn it. Yes. So are you suggesting that because Dale Talen is media friendly and may or may not have a pre-existing relationship with certain people, that people aren't really pointing out the fact that Florida is, again, underperforming itself. I don't recall saying that. I don't recall saying that at all.

What is this you're looking at here, Jason? That's their protected and some of their unprotected lift from the past expansion draft. Okay, so they had protected Alexander Barkov. Makes sense. Yep, Nick Bugstad, Jonathan Huberto, Vincent Trocek, Aaron Ekblad, Keith Yandel. You know, I got to say, Florida was in a really unfortunate position

because at least four of those names are guys who I thought would have been young enough to be protected. How the hell is Ekblad a guy that you had to protect? Too many games? Apparently. Sorry. Alexander Barkov, Nick Bugstad, Jonathan Huberto, Vincent Trocek, Aaron Ekblad, Keith Yandel.

I wonder if they regret that. Mark Pisek, Alex Petrovic. I wonder if they regret that. And James Reimer. Where is Keith Yandel? Oh, yeah. No, he's doing great. He's like fifth in team scoring.

Oh, is he? Farrah? Yeah. Vincent Trocek is leading the team. In the summer, I think there were rumors about him getting dealt or something. That leaves Jonathan Marcheseau, Yussi Okunin, Riley Smith, Derek McKenzie, Colton Sevier, Jason Demers, and Roberto Luongo as the odd ones out. Well, here's the thing.

Nick Bukestad is not having a great year. He's only got 20 points. So, of the names on that list, maybe Nick Bukestad? Like, who do you switch out? Yeah. That's the tough part. Well, here's what I'm trying to figure out. Who do you switch out?

I don't blame them for having Bugstad there. What's confusing to me, again, they lost Marcheseau, Riley Smith, and a fourth. They didn't have to lose Riley Smith. Even though it would have been bad to lose Jonathan Marcheseau. I think they wanted to lose Riley Smith's contract and didn't have a choice but to lose Jonathan Marcheseau. They did, so why not could you not maybe sweeten the pot to

like maybe have it be Riley Smith and a higher pick? Why did they have to do that anyway? Look at what Riley Smith is doing! He's a little overpaid. Or was. And I mean, I'm sure it helps that he's on a wicked team, but he's also part of the wicked team.

But they couldn't have just said, take one guy. And that's it? I'm not understanding that. They wouldn't have wanted Jason Demers. They were loading up on D. that doesn't make sense I don't know the answer to this question

I think I think Dale Tallon knows the answer I think George McPhee knows the answer maybe a few reporters know the answer and just won't say it

I'd be fascinated to know how the hell that came about how do you hand Vegas most of two thirds of a really good line and a pick Holy shit

It's true They still shouldn't be this good I don't care It's so dumb It's so dumb If Jonathan Marcheseau Was a Florida Panther right now And he had the exact same stats

He would be leading the team Along with Vincent Trocek And Jonathan Huberto in points Life's not fair He would be Tied for first in goals And yeah Tied for first in assists as well

So Trocek and Marcheseau Have the exact same numbers Is that good? It's pretty good I would think I don't know if that's good There is one more thing I wanted to look at

His plus minus is better It's 13 Trochex is minus 3 Bad player Bad player You're right Bad player What do we got here

How do I Like this is dumb Why can't I get to that What Nobody knows what you're talking about I'm trying to get to Shooting percentage On the Vegas Golden Knights

Start with that Start with that Hey I'm trying to get to shooting Am I failing And I can't figure out The website right now Am I failing first year All I'm saying is that

You know it would be good if people had context. That's the key. You can also ask me to look it up so you guys can talk. Podcast doesn't go to shit just you talking to a computer. You know what's funny?

I was trying to look up the Vegas shooting percentages. We had no idea. Did you? Were you? I believe I was mid-tenths. I believe you didn't even tell us. I think I was mid-tenths.

I think I was about to explain the rest of that. I'm not. I'm not going to talk about it. I don't feel like it. No, Steve, tell us what's funny. Please tell us what's funny. John Mulaney.

Very funny comedian. I enjoy his demeanor, his presentation, and his material. I like John Mulaney. Good for John Mulaney. That's what's funny. Continue. Well, you were going somewhere with the shooting percentage. No.

What point did you want to make? So you're not going to make... No, John Mulaney was talking about it in his special. Shooting percentage? Yep. Steve, what the, where the fuck are you going? Where is this going? No, I'm refusing to talk about it.

No. Okay. I'm not talking about it. Well, it is. Thanks, Jesse. So I wanted to talk about guys who had unsustainable shooting percentages on Vegas. They're not all that bad. What are you doing?

Oh, okay. You gotta be on the camera. Why is? Sorry, go ahead. I feel like a child right now. Okay, William Carlson In 38 games Is shooting 26.3%

Wow, okay So that So that is going to torpedo But he's still got 20 goals already That's gonna like half Alright So then he gets 30 goals this year Right, exactly

He'll still get 30 goals That's not the worst thing in the world No Holla is at 17.7 David Perron is at 16.4 James Neal is at 16 We expect James Neal to be, right? 16? 15?

That's still... Anything above 15 is pretty high. Okay. For James Neal, maybe not. Then you got like Oscar Lindbergh shooting 13.5%, although he hasn't taken that many shots. Marchessault is at 12.1. So like, that's a good bet.

God. Why is this team, A, currently a contender, and B, going to be a contender forever? They're going to be. They're going to be. They've already extended two guys. They were very good extensions. Braden McNabb and Jonathan Muncheson.

Yeah, they're not selling. They have 28 picks over the next three drafts, and 10 of them are in the first two rounds. I think Marc-Andre Fleury is 9-0-1 on the season. Oh, my God. Dude, remember when Vegas got Marc-Andre Fleury for less than free? They got him for less than free because they got a second rounder as well. Why did they get a second rounder again?

I think it was so that they wouldn't claim Matt Murray. I don't even remember exactly why. Why would Matt Murray be the... Well, this was the thing. Wasn't the whole thing about Fleury that he waved his no-move clause so that they could protect Murray? Yeah. Why?

I don't know. Can we look that up? I want to know why. Was it just... I forgot that. Was it just Rutherford deciding, I'm a good guy? I'm a good guy. Here's the second.

He's 8-1-1. Sorry. Oh, Jesse. What a... Actually, here come the... Tell me about Marc-Andre Fugue. But his save percentage... I need to know.

Do you want me to read it out? Please do. Please do. Nine. That's it, because NHL.com. No! It actually went down to one decimal place. There was too much buildup.

He's a 9-4-3. Wow. He's better than Vasilevsky in far fewer games. That's... What the f... What was I looking at before? Yeah, why that second-round pick was thrown that way. Hey, you know the thing about Vegas that nobody's talking about

is the guy with the best shooting percentage, which is Vadim Shipachov. You know, 33% shooting, and they let him go for nothing. Remember when we scolded them? Well, yeah. I mean, hey, man, sometimes you win some, you lose some. Vasilevsky and Shipachov. Still, I think they could have handled the Shipachov situation better.

I still think they could have. He couldn't make the second-best team in the league. Tough to make. Tough shit for him. Yeah, true. Good point. They're too good. It's the stupidest shit

It's the stupidest Okay would you rather have Shipachov or Carlson Obviously Shipachov Nope Wrong Guess wrong And Eric Hollis

Nope Wrong Belmar Wrong again apparently Right seriously It's crazy No So Marc-Andre Fleury

Had a no movement clause And he needed to wave it So that Vegas Could Select him in the expansion draft But why was the Second rounder though

That still doesn't explain why Pittsburgh was just like here you go did that really happen? are you sure? yes that must have slipped under my radar I do not remember that

second rounder in 2020 second rounder in 2020 I don't know why maybe Kaepernick has it I don't know like I don't remember directions to anywhere and I remember that

okay well while Jesse's looking that up like I want to know who they left exposed that was worth that I don't get it It just needs to load. I don't get it.

Da-da-da. Yes. A deal. So it says, according to Pierre Lebrun of TSN. Don't know what that is. The Athletic, I think. According to Pierre Lebrun. He is of the Athletic.

Of the Steve Dangle Times. He works for you now. He does. It also looks like the Penguins are sending a draft pick to the Golden Knights, a deal made to persuade George McPhee to take Fleury. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait What? So there were other guys on the Penguins

Who they had exposed And they didn't want Vegas to take Who? Because Vegas didn't really need to take Fleury Because of his giant contract But who were the other guys? Let's see So Fleury was that big of a cap dump?

Yeah, I think Connor Sheery was on that list Justin Schultz Justin Schultz? Seriously? I guess they had a lot of must-protects Letang, Kessel, Malkin, Crosby They had all those other guys exposed So they sent the second round pick So that McPhee would take

Yeah, I guess Because remember all of the goalies that were available And we were like, they could just take six goalies And trade them So they didn't really need to take Fleury in his giant contract They had Mrazic available to them They didn't take him McPhee named his price

Like you're gonna take Marc-Andre Fleury Either freaking way Over Justin Schultz Yes Absolutely Dude I can No Justin Schultz

Three times Stanley Cup Winning goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury You're not You're gonna take Justin Schultz For my expansion team Yeah I'm taking him

When okay Cause I can trade him When we were thinking About this team Well that's the only reason Really Bingo Because I was just thinking

We were just thinking I thought Heading into Vegas becoming a team They start young and shitty and they get a little bit older and unsure. Now they'll start great and end up great.

All of these picks, it's unbelievable. All these guys have already picked. Here's the list of guys who were exposed. So Justin Schultz was protected. But the exposed guys were Hagelin, Russ, Bonino, Cullen, Kunitz, Scott Wilson,

Josh Archibald. Let's go through that slowly. Yeah, let's go through that slowly. Carl Hagelin. Okay, he's on their team, having an off year. Brian Rust. He's on their team. Nick Bonino. He was a free agent.

Left to Nashville as a free agent. Impending UFA, Matt Cullen, also impending UFA. And also 40. Chris Kunitz. Free agent. Scott Wilson. Traded to Detroit for... Riley Sheehan.

Riley Sheehan. Tom Kuhnhackel. Is a depth player. Josh Archibald. He's on the Coyotes now for some reason. Yes. I think a minor defenseman

Ian Cole who is on the trading board Trevor Daly UFA who left for Detroit Ron Hainsey who left for Toronto

Mark Streit who left for Montreal and then retired he just left Frankie Carotto who is still in Pittsburgh

plays apparently oh that's right no he gets called up sometimes Tim Erickson I don't I feel like Tim Erickson

never actually existed he was just and Stuart Percy Who is now on Rochester What? Why did Pittsburgh do that? But they sent a second round pick to make sure

Why did Pittsburgh do that? As just the cap dump? No one won it? No one Yo I don't think I believe that That is the most badass shit That has happened in the NHL ever

Low key George McPhee called and said I'm not taking Fleury Yo that's how it went Yeah. George McPhee is a bad motherfucker right there. He is. Wow.

You're telling me, wow. I'm going to take Nick Benito and I don't need him. He's not on some rookie GM either. That's Jim Rutherford. You know what's funny? I was just about to say, I was just about to say, you're telling me Arizona wouldn't have taken Marc-Andre Fleury? Would have, for sure. But he had a no-move clause.

The whole thing. Why do I want to go to Arizona for? At least Vegas has the promise of one day they might be good. And if they're bad He can live there And then leave But he won't Vegas is allowed

To spend money So it's kind of crazy How we're working Back towards How the hell Did Vegas get this good Yeah Oh wait

McPhee kind of Fucked over a couple teams Man And the thing is In the draft And he made He could have He could have done better

He could have been way better Post draft Griffin Reinhardt He's Great Isn't he with the Sabres again Or Sabres now No that's Sam

Oh that's Sam Or oh did he get claimed No I don't know where Griffin Reinhardt is now No no it was Sam Reinhardt I feel like they were playing together for some reason I don't know Yeah it's Griffin Reinhardt Dude

I plan on doing a big How the hell is Vegas good Piece and also I want to Go back in time and figure out How all these teams Like Nate Schmidt But it was him or Grubauer I'm taking Nate Schmidt

On that one Your backup goalie man Like I don't know I mean Grubauer's awesome But I would take Nate Schmidt Just because he's a young Defenseman Really in demand

And based on what we thought At the time They weren't going to be A good team So he's easy To flip for picks But at the end of the day Okay

So who What were you allowed To protect again It was seven forwards Three defense And Or eight guys overall Or something

And a goalie So like Nashville had to protect 4D so But Nashville I think Was one of Like half a dozen maybe Teams that had to do that

So ultimately As smart as George McPhee May or may not be Looks like maybe As smart as he is Vegas should have been a team Built out of Every other team's

8th or 9th best forward And 3rd or 4th best 4th or 3rd best defender And 2nd goalie And 2nd goalie With the exception of one guy who they got a second for as well. Why are they good at all? They should stink.

But McPhee ripped off the entire league. Every one. Every single one. How did he pull it off? Are there any advanced metrics saying that this is a Colorado Avalanche of a few years ago? Oh, like are they writing a high PDO or something? Uh, here, Jesse, can you just look up, like, 2017-18 PDO or something? Like, I think they have a high one, but I believe their possession is decent.

And Gerard Gallant's a great coach, we know that. Gerard Gallant's a great coach? See, that's the other thing Florida lost. They lost two players, a fourth-round pick, and a coach. Like, is he a great coach or just a good coach? Like, why wasn't Florida this good at the beginning of last year? Surely Surely

On paper Maybe they just had An off start Like Look at Todd Look at poor Todd Richards In Columbus Like how bad

Does he feel Bobrovsky has a Terrible year Or has a terrible start I have no idea And then Torrella Comes in And then

Bobrovsky plays Like Bobrovsky again Plays like the Vezina Magic Yeah Bobrovsky had The worst stretch Of his entire career Forget when he was

Like a backup in Philly Worst stretch of his entire career Tortorella comes home I feel better oh man it's insane that's insane

he was like he was like an 8 he was like an 8.5 I'd like to know like it's like I feel bad for Peter Horacek when he was coaching the Leafs this is a former

Leafs head coach where is he? I want to say he's he's in an organization somewhere I feel like a year

after he got fired someone did like a retrospective on him And they caught up with him And he was like Yeah that was rough He is a pro scout For the New Jersey Devils

Ooh hey He works for the Devils Along with friend of the show Rachel Dory That's correct Did we talk about that? No we didn't That is crazy

Congratulations to Rachel by the way Yes Early early What is she 21? She's 21 And is now a scout Advanced stats Doing

Video It is video Here you can probably Find it on Twitter Yeah I know Rachel Dory She I met

I met her for coffee In the food court of CBC a few years ago because I don't know she just wanted to chat and I think she was

already doing some work for an OHL team at the time she was 19 19 so like the junior players on the team she was working for

were her age and it's two and a half years later whatever she's working for the New Jersey you know there's some people that just

when they they just have it she just has it yeah like there's some stuff we were DMing back and forth and there's some stuff

she told me about the Leafs she's like well this and this and this all of it happened I was like okay wow that's pretty good

and that's just by watching yeah she wasn't even part of the organization yeah amazing the last place team

in PDO for this season is the Arizona Vegas Goldman no Arizona Coyotes at 96.6 oh okay

gosh darn that's terrible we're in the middle of the pack Chicago that's not good for them 15th

their PDO is 100.2. Right, so it's bang average, yeah. Fourth place, the Toronto Maple Leafs at 101.9. Eep.

First place, 103.8, Tampa Bay. Hmm. Where do you think Vegas sits? Second. Tenth.

Fifth. Okay. That's pretty good. 101.8? So they might be for real? Well, I mean, 101? Like, that's not

redonkulous. No. That's not crazy over the top. Wait a second, so Rachel's doing what Justin Bourne did for the Marlies

Rachel will be doing that oh wow I don't know specifically how do you announce that I'm joining the New Jersey Devil hockey operations department as an analyst

player information video so I thought player information might mean scouting but I might be wrong I don't know I don't know what that means man well video scouting oh okay

I don't know man I'm just not like I'm just not into that I just don't even know for example Justin Bourne's job wasn't just to be like this button means record

yeah he's like you know a former pro hockey player so he got to go through the video and be like here are the tendencies and oh we're about to play a team that has like the first rank power play in the league

let's go through the video and watch that stuff so that's what Rachel's doing. That's pretty cool That's really cool. It's extremely cool and I saw some stuff you know you know Lady Dubas and all that. No Kyle Dubas can't hold a candle to that. He was GM of the Sudbury Wolves at 25

I mean Rachel's got four years She's already working for an NHL team Yeah. That's nuts yeah that is nuts congrats to her man she's probably listening

I hope so hey Rachel congratulations hello um okay so let's let's move on to Edmonton

and this one comes via our friend Jesse Blake friend of the show Jesse Blake um Edmonton how old is he? Edmonton is

has the worst penalty killing in the league I told you I didn't know it was this bad they lost their uh they've lost four in a row Jesse can you look up

who played on the Oilers penalty kill last year and this year? Okay. Please. Like, just time on ice. Sorry, I said it. The Oilers penalty kill sits at 70.8%. No!

No! Here's where it gets scary. Three out of every ten go in. Here's where it gets truly scary. The Oilers PK unit has an efficiency rate of 55.6% on home ice. What does that mean?

half the goals go in what does that mean no the Toronto Maple Leafs have posted you're making that up Jesse

you said that has to be wrong I just know that Jonathan Marches is up that's wrong the half half half

the 0809 Leafs posted the worst ever home PK of course the 0809 Leafs did worst ever home ice PK number with a mark of

69.4 we are 40 games in Opposite of nice But that is almost That's I mean that's A full 15 points ahead Oh my holy goodness

Wow Both of All those numbers are staggering McDavid is pointless For a third straight game For the first time in his career Who cares Yeah it doesn't matter

Who cares Back to the penalty Yeah that to me is an That's a When it rains it pours Kind of stat I mean eventually You're gonna go three games

without scoring a freaking point. Or at oils. Yeah. I'm pretty sure Sidney Crosby has gone on longer pointless streaks than that and then won the scoring race and hearts. You know? See, this is where I wish Rachel didn't work for New Jersey anymore because then I could be like, hey, I'm seeing this.

What do you think? And then she'd be like, well, there's reasons for this. And that's... It's funny. I was actually, I was about to ask her to come on the show and I told her this. I was about to ask her and then she's like, well, you're going to have to go through the devils.

What a power move. Sorry, you're going to have to request an interview with my NHL team. You got big time. You got big time, buddy. So, that's real. That is so bad. Who did they lose? Do you want the shorthanded time on ice times?

Yes, please. All right, so. Last year or this? We can start with last year. Cool. Yeah, start with last year. Yeah, okay, fine. The top of the list, Chris Russell.

Two minutes, 18 seconds. Sure. Average. Mark Letestu came second. Is he still on the team? I think he is. Okay. Andres Sequeira, third.

Who is not here. Yeah, he'd be out. I'm sorry, but that's not responsible for... No, it's something. Anton Launder, 153 in fourth place. Okay, he's gone. The Nuge, fifth. Clefbaum in sixth.

Adam Larson in seventh. Matt Hendricks, eighth. Wait a second. They lost Hendricks. Isn't Adam Larson the defensive specialist? I think he's just a good all around D he's not like

why is he not higher that's weird so that's your top 8 was he hurt he might have been I don't know that's your top 8

from last year is that average time on ice or total average average ok so that's average time on ice that's weird

Anton Lander throughout the whole season this year number 1 is Adam Larson ok number 2 so I guess not

I guess he's not a defensive specialist? I don't know. Well, let's keep going. Two, Darnell Nurse. Three, Clef Baum. Four, Brandon Davidson. Five, Mark Letestu.

Six, Chris Russell. Seven, The Nuge. Eight, Zach Kassian. Why'd they dock Chris Russell so much? I don't know. First to sixth. He seemed to be

He was at 218. Now he's at 158. What I would like to know is where the Oilers penalty kill finished last season. Yeah, was it still bad? No, I think I saw I think I saw the same prep Jesse sent.

That's crazy. Was it 17th last year? Yeah, which is still back half, but that's pretty average. That's not costing you a playoff spot or anything. No. Holy shit. Yeah, that's bad. That's really bad.

You know what? That's mental. Like, I mean. That can't last either. No. Like, it just would not. Like, it's going up. It's like how you, it's like last year, I mean, the Leafs were doing things wrong that

led to them coughing up leads. Yes. But you saw it in their eyes, like they were all, you know, they get up 3-1, 4-1 on a team and it's like, oh my God, we should probably stop scoring goals because now we got a, oh God, and they would just freak out and lose. It's like a dog that caught a squirrel. I don't know what to do with this. I don't know what to do with it.

And you were right about 17th. Okay, so that's... Good memory. I tried. Don't remember directions. How, like, is it, it has to be when the Oilers take a penalty, they're like, oh shit. Like, we're not going to be able to do this. Yeah.

We can't do this. Yeah. Yeah, could be. For sure. Mental thing. How? How do you allow half of your own penalty kills against? you know what else

is interesting about that a guy I would have thought would and I think they probably signed him for this reason but they have since traded him as

Yusuke Okunin I would have thought he would have been one of their penalty killers is he typically a PK I would have thought so he's got some foot speed but maybe not

they were wrong there's another reason yet another reason why if if you're the Oilers give the Leafs a little ring

about Sash give him a ring give him a hell at this point give him a call about Dominic Moore we'll take Oscar Kleffbaum

yeah but Dominic Moore would make sense you can give up nothing to get him just offer to leave

something for Moore and Sash see what they say see what they say just get a whole new darn L nurse get a whole new PK unit

for free well not for free Sash would be good for it you know what I mean overnight well I think he solves a couple problems

for them but that's bizarre cause I feel I genuinely feel like that's not that bad of a team anymore Like

Or were they ever That bad of a team Well I mean We yelled and screamed About them like they were But I mean They had

You know what They had Obvious holes But that's ridiculous That's crazy That's nuts They're barely different From last year

Also When did Sakara get hurt Because Playoffs Yeah I'm pretty sure they knew They were going to be Without Sakara

Heading into this season And if he's that big a part of your team, which it sounds like he was only part of their second unit. Shouldn't you have prepared a little bit better? Like, again, with the Oilers, it can't just be Sequeira. Come on!

No, it can't. Not one player. One player cannot make... If a player is making that much of a difference and you don't have depth, then you have a problem. How many... Like... How many final four teams over the past few years is Andre Sequeira on the top pair of?

You know what I mean? That's a good player. That's a great defenseman. But, come on. I think it's mental. I think it's mental. That or, I don't know, would they get a new coach? New assistant coach and he sucks?

I don't know. That's brutal. That's unbelievable. Fifth half? Half. Stop that right now. That's insane. The Montreal Canadiens have lost five straight games after going on a bit of a surge.

Shea Weber, unlikely to return before the All-Star break. Is it time? to just packet it. Ooh. More like patch it in. Ah, you see? Because he's on the trade block patch ready. What is it going to take to fire Mark Bergevin?

What's it going to take? I mean, you just got an extension. Now you got to pay him. Wait, when did he get it? Didn't he recently get one within the last year and a half? He's extended until 2022, man. Does Trump still have control of the nuclear weapons? Apparently there's a big button on his desk.

Maybe when the world explodes Then he'll be fired Because the world won't exist And we'll be on a show Do you mean fired or die in fire? Well, this got dark It's a joke, everybody Please don't come after me on Twitter

I mean When we're all dead Every team will be 500 True Every team will be on the field The parody in the league will be outstanding Gary Bettman will be so happy So happy

So happy This got dark Well, I mean Gary, what do you think? God, we don't want to get involved politically. Gary, what do you think of nuclear war? I mean, the league doesn't have an official stance. On nuclear war?

Is it going to make us money? Somebody ask Ken King. Elliot Friedman has called the heat around, he said this on Sportsnet 650 in Vancouver. Elliot Friedman called the heat around Pittsburgh trade rumors somewhat like being near the center of the earth, as in they are hot, hot, hot. Jim Rutherford wants to add a center and a winger.

He wants to add scoring. He wants to add big time. Mike Hoffman is a name that's being thrown out there. He's got two years left. Max Pacioretty, who's got one. Evander Kane, who is a rental. Who's your sleeper? That is every big name forward available, isn't it?

Those are the three. Those are the three biggest ones that I can think of. Like, outside of Nuge. Like, Nuge is the only guy you're missing from all the hot take names. And that's Friedman! Holy shit! Sorry, what were you saying? Well, who's your sleeper?

Who's the guy that's not on that list that you go, hmm, they get moved? Like, I mean, you mentioned Sash and Dominic Moore, but those are guys that are like, they're depth guys. Is there a sleeper on that list, Nooch? But I don't move Nooch. Why do you move Nooch? Then you have to put Drysaddle at center. You should do it anyway.

I don't know why you don't run your top three lines McDavid, Drysaddle, Nuge and you just run show all day because they don't they want to give the rest of the league a breather so next year they can come back and hit us really hard when they get Rasmus Dahl

with Darlene Pittsburgh Penguins fans have been on me for months now about wanting Tyler Bozak for some reason it's not going to happen I mean it could Why would we give an Eastern Conference team one of our top three centers? I don't know.

Well, it would have to be a really good return. What does Pittsburgh have to offer? Great question. Chris Letang. Undo the Kessel deal. Daniel Sprung. Demi. No.

Look. Undo the Kessel trade. Just undo it. You have to give Phil back. Phil and Austin and William Nylander. Bozak for Kessel. Oh. And then we would have to, we would all be pallbearers for irony.

Yes. Because irony would be dead that day. No, Babcock recently said when talking about the Tampa Bay Lightning, they have too many centers. And you want to have too many centers. Like, how hilarious is it that Tampa has Tyler Johnson playing the wing for fun? For fun. It's crazy.

For funsies. Given that that is his mantra, I don't see the Leafs trading Bozak. I mean, unless they were to get a center in return, but how does that help Pittsburgh at all? So it's not going to be the Leafs. You would think that they would want a center before a winger, unless it's one of the big fish. So who's a sleeper?

DeClaire? That could be good. I mean, they have a good relationship. There's a guy that could use a change of scenery. Yeah, they have a good relationship with John Chayka. I think they just made a move with him. Is there a spare part in Vegas? But that doesn't really solve much, does it?

Oh boy Oh boy Are there many sleepers? Who's available on Buffalo? Well, Kane Yeah Yeah, that's it Well, that can't be it in Buffalo

Like, what if And there's no way Pittsburgh could afford this There's not a lot in Buffalo What if Buffalo could unload one of those onerous contracts i.e. Kyle Ocposo or Ryan O'Reilly. Now, I don't mean to say that those players are not worth the money. No, the Penguins aren't allowed

to get Ryan O'Reilly. No. He's $7.5 million. There's no way they're going to get him. They can't afford him. Oh, man. Buffalo needs D badly. Sweeten that pot a little bit. Whoa! That could work. I think it could

work. The money's almost even. Here's the thing. Buffalo needs I hate to say this but Buffalo whether it wants to or not has to continue rebuilding because they're already

in the last why would you do that to him that's so mean that's so mean okay then he gets to play with Rasmus Dolan tomorrow or tomorrow next year oh there you go

that's for top pairing is Rasmus Dolan and Chris Letang and then you got Buffalo's different overnight and Rasmus Ristolainen is now your your second guy

and then you can don't mind that I mean like I don't know Josh Georges no uh boy I don't know Who else Buffalo really has

But That's a start That's a start Hmm Hmm That could be very interesting Okay cause you've got You just blow the doors off

Letang And a First And a conditional third For O'Reilly And Kane No That would never happen

Yeah cause they've got Okay Or would it They've got Marco Scandella And Rasmus Ristelainen As their top two Don't tell me

Letang and And we're gonna We're saying Rasmus Dolan but Well Buffalo's problem Is they can't score goals Dude they don't even Last I checked

They don't even have 90 goals yet I think almost Every other team In the league Has at least 100 Yeah it's It's rough

That's rough Bad Well so I just Wondered about that That situation Like who Sleeper I would

A And I wonder too Evander Kane Where does he end up Vancouver's always the rumor But they're going to be unloading What's Sam Gagne up to? He is in Vancouver

Yeah I haven't heard much of anything about him this season Is he just having an off season? Is he injured? What's going on there? Well He's got 18 points in 40 games He had 50 in 81 last year

So It's not very good But I wonder Sam Gagne Strikes me as the kind of guy Who can make some noise In Pittsburgh He'd probably be doing better

Than he's doing in Vancouver He'd be cheap I don't think Pittsburgh Has that much to give up That to me is a Sleeper match made in heaven Vancouver's looking to unload him I mean

When I saw that contract Signed in the summer It was Who was it It was like him Bermistrov And there was another guy Del Zotto?

Mm-hmm. I mean, I think the Penguins should be calling about all those guys. Well, not Bermistrov, but Del Zotto and Gagne. If the Vegas Golden Knights are for real. The vegan Golden Knights. The vegan Golden Knights. Are they the only ones who can truly afford to pay the price of an Eric Carlson, a Drew Dowdy, or an Oliver Ackman Larson?

Dude, they have... In trade? Over $8 million in cap space. 28 picks over the next three years. Like, they can afford whatever they want. It's nuts. It's nuts. and most of the team

is UFA after this year that's the other thing but watch they get all these big name guys and then they start to suck because that's that's how hockey works

yeah of course I mean Vegas still has too many guys way too many yeah that's crazy

they could still unload they could still trade away guys that they're not using retain salary on Jason Garrison who's just chilling in the minors like I don't even know

I don't even know I would call Vancouver if I was Pittsburgh interesting thought on Ottawa and this comes from 30 thoughts or 31 thoughts Ottawa's situation has been made even more complex

by the conditions on the first rounder they sent to Colorado in the Duchesne deal. Yep, bad. This is so bad. The Senators can protect it if it's in the top 10, but then they have to give up their 2019 no matter what. So no chance the organization even thought this would be an issue. That's a problem.

That's a big problem. Could be the first overall pick. It could be. And how do you rebuild? How do you rebuild? The next year When you get the first Overall pick

Because you finished last I mean Okay You lose the first pick You lose Carlson Well you lose A top four pick You lose Carlson

Next year You finish last So you pick Fourth at worst That's how you rebuild So it's gonna take a while What about But you can't survive

That long Because you're Ottawa So you relocate What if you're Ottawa It's bad man If you're Ottawa Is there a chance That you can trade

Duchesne to the Penguins. Oh my god! No. Retain salary? Can't do that. Can't do that? No. Logistically, you can't do that.

You can't? It'd be a smart thing to do, but logistically, nope. You might as well move the franchise. Oh man, I think it makes... Don't hang on to him. What would even go the other way? Oh, Adam.

Oh, no! And so what if it is Letang? No! Then you've got Carlson, Fanoff, Letang, and CeCe as your top four defense. That's not bad. That's not bad at all. You can't just undo that. You have to stick it out.

Gives you the money. You can't take these backseats, Matt Duchesne. Yeah. It was a bad trade, and I think Matt Duchesne's play is proving that. But you've got to accept it. Boy, do I not understand what the hell happened there at all. They gave up way too much What if

What if there are two guys That need a switch So you trade Patch Ready for Duchesne He just got his switch I know But he doesn't need a switch What

He got the switch What are his points at What's his It's not good Okay So you know how we've Talked about like It's nice that the Leafs

Have guys like Connor Brown And Mitch Marner And Zach Hyman Like homegrown guys Grew up as Leafs fans And isn't it great That guys who grew up

As Leafs fans And watched them suck forever, are part of the renaissance. What makes them good again? Matt Duchesne got his heart broken. I think, by his childhood team. He got his heart broken.

What initiated that trade in the first place? Him! I'm pretty sure it was him. Why though? I don't know. That's the one thing that I don't understand is why did he ask for a trade? He didn't believe in the direction and he thought they would suck. And now we have Colorado challenging for a playoff spot.

That's not a terrible team. It's nuts. It's nuts. Do you want some Matt Duchesne numbers? This reminds me of, remember when the Raptors traded Rudy? Just a moment, Jesse. Yeah, sorry. Remember when the Raptors traded Rudy Gay and it got better?

Yeah. And fucked up the Kyle Lowry trade that they were supposed to make, right? Weren't they trying to trade him? And then the trade got rejected or something at the last second? I think they almost traded him to New York. Yeah, they almost completed a Kyle Lowry trade and then it didn't happen. And then it fell through and I think New York rejected it or something like that. Thank God.

And then they made the playoffs. Wow. Yeah, no, that was unbelievable. They were one of the best teams in the league for like the last, what was it, 50, 60 games of the season? That was crazy. And have gotten better since. Jesse, go ahead.

Seven goals, eight assists. All season? That's it. That's it. How many since he got to Ottawa? Sorry, nine assists. Since he's been with Ottawa, three goals, three assists. In how many games?

23. Go home! Stop it! What? That's his Ottawa stats, yeah. Holy shit! You know what's going to happen in Ottawa? They're not going to do anything, but they're going to fire their coach.

And I hate to say it because I like him a lot. Matt Duchesne shooting a 5.9 while in Ottawa. Oh, that'll get better. That will get better. That'll more than double. Let's hope so. But even if it just doubled. Let's hope.

Even if it doubled, how many shots has he taken? Well, no, it would just double the amount of goals. So he would have, what was it, nine points? Yeah, well, he's got three goals with Ottawa. Yeah, so he would have six goals, three assists? Yep. Holy Santa Claus. Are you even happy with that?

No. Yeah, seven goals in 37 games, nine assists. What on earth is going on there? What is going on there? And his time on ice in Colorado was 15 minutes and 46 seconds. And in Ottawa, it jumped to 18-18. And his numbers went down. He's too good.

Dude, this guy was on Team Canada at the World Cup a couple years ago. Maybe the system isn't working for him. Well, it's not working for the whole team. I think it's the system between the years isn't working. What is that? That's crazy. That's too good a player. That's far too good a player to be playing like that.

Wow. And then watch him go to Pittsburgh and wreck world. Dude, if Ottawa were to trade Duchesne at this point, would they have to retain salary? Does it matter? Yeah. He's only on next year. Well, if they did, they're going to get a huge package back.

If I were them, I would rather retain salary than take on a Chris Letang salary. You can't trade Matt Duchesne. You traded for him. This, like, a couple months ago. Like, two months? Yo, how long did it take? It took zero seconds for this trade to suck.

And look at Kyle Turris. He's doing great. It's still just being Kyle Turris in Nashville. And every draft pick Colorado got is already the greatest player ever because it's a draft pick, so it's all good. You know? It worked out for them. Here's a question.

Is this so bad that as Leafs fans, you feel bad? I feel bad for Yeah I feel bad I feel bad for Matt Duchesne I feel a little bit bad For Matt Duchesne But I mean

Jesus dude This is your opportunity And you're blowing it here But maybe that's why We feel bad I guess Because we're empathetic people Yeah you don't want people

To blow their opportunity But I feel bad Like If this team Really really stinks For let's say Four years Does Ottawa lose the Senators?

It seems like right now, it's weird. No Leaf fans should want that. They're not good. You don't want to lose one of your biggest rivals. Yeah, but That's fun! The Battle of Ontario! It went from they were one goal away in overtime. From the final

to all of a sudden we're talking 40 games later. Literally 40 games later, we're talking about them moving. What happened? It's literally every single dumbass in that room. And I'm not talking, like Eugene on down has been

it has been bad all the way through rotten all the way through and it makes me wonder if this was always bubbling under the surface and Brian Murray always just

was able to keep a lid on it and and able to hold the ship together because it's it's unbelievable how this has just gone

they got pretty incredible goaltending sure dude the Hamburglar one the Hamburglar run was so stupid but who doesn't get incredible goaltending

oh you mean oh you mean the Hamburglar run I'm talking about that but then last year Like Craig Anderson Dude they used three guys And they were all great

Or But who makes it to the final four Anderson and Condon were great Who makes it to the final four And doesn't have incredible goaltending Is there a weak goaltender No but what I'm trying to say Is they were propped up

Okay But But I saw Hoffman And Bobby Ryan Was Bobby Ryan again Mark Stone And Stone

And Carlson On a broken foot And Broussard Was happening Even Ali's I don't get this He wasn't that bad Who

Did Burrows have more More points In the same amount of games after he was traded To Ottawa last year than Duchesne has now I think he did I'm going to say probably I'm going to go with probably Didn't he have like a two goal debut or something like that

Yeah Wow Wow Poor guys man Alexander Burrows last season with Ottawa he played 20 games

so that's less than Duchesne has played yep oh I'm not gonna like this Duchesne has played 23 games had 6 points oh boy

Duchesne 3 goals 3 assists that's correct Alexander Burrows had 6 goals 5 assists stop it this instant

no that's not good No! That's not good. His time on ice was 13 minutes. They're so boned. Unless they start winning. Yeah, unless hockey happens.

If they start winning. Unless hockey happens. If Matt Duchesne. Ah, Vegas is leading. They're starting in the NHL this year. Oh, yeah, they're fine. If Matt Duchesne picks it up and they start winning, all this goes away.

They play the Leafs like three more times this season. Just 7-0. Where do they sit in standings? Ottawa? Oh, they're bottom five. Oh, yeah, they are right above Buffalo three points ahead of the Buffalo Sabres for last place. Oh in the east in the east and then Arizona so the third last in the NHL. Did you guys see the mark Spector's article on sportsnet.ca today? Oh, so much better than the Oilers just quit so much better than the Oilers just quit

Okay, so I'm trying to pull up the oh, I need you to read that. There's a there's a handy chart in there about Here, first let me say the headline first. Okay, go ahead. The headline is, Another dreadful performance sees the Oilers' season swirling the bowl. Arpin Basu from the Athletic Montreal was just like, man, I wish I'd thought of that.

Yeah, good one, right? Anyway, Jesse, your chart. Sorry, buddy. So, yeah, there's a chart in that article about the most improbable runs to the playoffs from teams who were in a terrible position on December 31st of the last seven years. The most improbable playoff run was the Buffalo Sabres, who sat on December 31st, 10 points back of a playoff spot. What year was that?

That was 2010. I don't even remember who was on that team. The next one was eight points back, St. Louis Blues. That was 2008. Oh, those last 10 years. 2008, they made the playoffs after being eight points back. And then the Caps, Jackets, Wild, Ducks in 07, 13, 14, and 15 all made the playoffs after being seven points back.

And the Oilers are how many points back, Jesse? And the Oilers are currently sitting at 37 points. And Anaheim, the last spot, is at 46. So since 2007, only one team who's been nine points back has made the playoffs. and Anaheim's starting to get guys back too and that was the Sabres

who did it in 2010 so the odds are impossible poor Canada poor Canada six teams from Canada

made the Stanley Cup playoffs zero six maybe two like Winnipeg and Toronto and

Calgary Calgary Calgary is in right now and Winnipeg was the one that missed last year. No, Vancouver missed, too. Vancouver missed?

Vancouver missed. Vancouver missed. They were gone. It was 5 of 7. 5 of 7. My bad. And Winnipeg should have made it. They were good enough.

They just had terrible goaltending. They're leading Central. That's nuts. That's crazy. It's expected. It's what it should have been. They finally have goaltending. But anyway.

Imagine the Jets buy at the deadline and get Shifley back. That could be a really good team, man. A really good team. It is a really good team. It is a really good team.

We should also note that Montreal is 8 points back oh so I believe listen I believe the Oilers run more

than I would believe a Montreal run I still feel like the Leafs control their own destiny and when they just

decide to be the Leafs for God's sake they'll be fine not fucking around no no don't fucking around sorry you're bad

that is terrible it needs work I can teach you listen I don't fucking around that was really nice of you to say it needs work

because it's objectively it's bad but I see potential thank you man I appreciate that that's a good supportive friend you know you're

you know you're a talented man you're a good young man and I see I see a bright future for you if you just take the opportunity

the opportunity will be there for you something that I want to ask I'm just going to ask this question and I want to know will this bother you

Jesse yes does this bother you easily easily yeah because we're easily bothered here but

I'm already upset Skylin the JVR 20,000 goal stick will sit in the Hall of Fame. Remember that the 20,000 goal stick was scored

on the Leafs 20,000 goal. 52 of those came in a shootout. No, they didn't. 52 of those were shootout wins. Shootout wins. They're well over 20,000 if we're doing shootout goals, but nothing matters. The goals, shootout

wins, by the way, count towards no goals. They count as a goal, but they don't count as a goal for the player, just the team. Right. Which I think is very bourgeois-y. I'd be very upset with that if I was the proletariat of the sport. Totally. Team getting credit for the player's work. Totally, Adam Wilde comparison. Bullshit.

Yeah. That is gonna stay, that will be in the Hall of Fame, even though the Leafs have about, I think it's in the 30s now, 30 more goals to their actual 20,000th goal if I am the

Toronto Maple Leafs do I not just say can we just wait for the real one no because if you're the Toronto Maple Leafs that was the

20,000th goal and it happened against the Canes which was the and it happened in the 100th centennial game it's a little too perfect

I hate it I hate it so much does it bother you Jesse not so much I can't you're wrong you're wrong I'm going to not be bothered by this.

Wins are not goals. Jesse. It is your goal to win, but a win is not a goal. Jesse has the right to speak here. Let him finish. I have a good friend, and his name is Adam Weill. Uh-oh. And he taught me a long time ago about expecting things from people.

And if you don't expect much, you won't be disappointed. I have said that. And the NHL, I expect them at this point to be dumb. and they've decided to count goals a certain way and I've accepted it because it is

a dumb league so if you want to count it as 20,000th goal 20,000th goal then go ahead count it count your heart out

because that's the way you are I can't wait for tomorrow when you get a press release and the NHL has announced

that assists are now called flarns and goals are called doesn't matters and points are called

pointy do's It's just a name. They could change the name saves are called hoorays I don't know why you're making the league more fun Would never do that that actually sounds hilarious They should say that anyway Every different part of your body is a different name for a save There's no saves. It's just, a glove save is a whoopee.

Have you ever watched, sorry, keep going. A pad save is a yuki. Keep going, what? Sorry, please finish your thought there. And a blocker save is a biaaaah! Do you watch the Raptors much on TV? Sometimes, yeah. Okay, so basketball coverage is very different from hockey coverage.

Hockey coverage, you've got to be serious and stern all the time. Basketball coverage is fun. There's guys out there They're having fun Jack Armstrong's the best But the guy, I forget his name So nice to the interns I forget the guy who actually calls the games

The play-by-play itself Matt Devlin Whenever someone gets a three-pointer at all He's like, CJ Miles from Brampton All the suburbs He's naming all the suburbs He does a great job He's like running out of them

From Welland, Peterborough So you're thinking that You're saying what you just said reminded me That I was watching the Raptors and Caprice was On her phone just you know whatever Doing whatever and she's like Wow all these players are Canadian that's really cool That the Raptors are

Hiring all these Canadian guys That's funny I didn't know DeMar DeRozan Was a Canadian Well he's not but Isn't that great Anyway, Canadian province of Compton random story random story and Also, Philadelphia. McDavid, Subban, Ovechkin, and Stamkos are named the all-star captains. I saved this for last

Larry is from Philadelphia, but you went with DeMar and he said Compton and he said also Philadelphia because I Forgot to say Larry first. You didn't say that. I got excited. Okay McDavid, Subban, Ovechkin, Stamkos. I tried to be like I know Raptors. All-star captains. Did you catch them? Hi Adam. Name them Stamkos Subban Fucking West Canada

Biggest star McDavid And Probably a Blackhawk No Because Subban So Dowdy

Fuck Who's in the Pacific Should be someone from Vegas McDavid Subban Ovechkin Stamkos McDavid

Ovechkin I missed So you weren't even in the right Yeah Right hemisphere anyway those guys are the all-star captains

and I saved this for last because literally who cares yeah who gives a I mean it's nice that Stephen Stamkos at home in Tampa

will be the captain of an all-star team I think that's cool if the all-star game were in Toronto I would want it to be Austin Matthews that is

in one sound that's the perfect reaction can you do that again not angry just relative indifference the fans who go always have a great time All-Star games are for the city that hosts the game.

Bingo. It's a terrible TV event for everyone. It doesn't matter because you're not there, and it's fun for the fans. No. Jesse, in the words of Pierre Maguire, if you didn't like the All-Star game, you don't like hockey.

Oh, shh. Actual thing he said once. And by the way, that All-Star game was terrible. Which one? All of them. Oh, fair. Literally the non-John Scott ones. The

They're all bad for it Fair enough Fair enough No the So I went to the one in Columbus In 2015 The The last non-John Scott one

And The skills competition was super fun That was cool Yeah that is cool That's always fun That was the Tyler Sagan vs. Phil Kessel race That was cool When they traded

Sagan for Kessel or whatever That was cool Yeah That was funny That was fun and then that night everyone went out and had a good time

sure that was fun and the all-star game comes and it's just a shitty hockey game while hungover and it was in Columbus so every time there was a goal

they fired that freaking cannon and wouldn't you know it they broke a record for goals there were over 30 of them as a matter of fact and it scared the children

kids are screaming and crying Adults are holding ice packs to their heads and having a hair of the dog No one had a good time. Are the kids actually screaming and crying with the cannons? Yeah, you saw them. Did you see that? Here, this is only good for the YouTube version, but I saw at least one kid do the Okay FOR THOSE ABOUT TO ROCK! FOR THOSE ABOUT TO ROCK! And then you see them. What did you yell? For those about to rock. It's the ACDC song with the cannons. I had no idea what you were going to yell.

You didn't know that's what they did? No idea. FOR THOSE ABOUT TO ROCK! and I hope that was loud in your ears because it was loud in mine and you see the kid they do the wide eyed there's a level of fear where your body's just like FREEZE! and that's what the kid did

and then you saw them very slowly snap out of it and then they would go into that it was awful where they had to take a breath but they're still kind of they're doing the silent Yeah.

Like laughing like the lion from Wizard of Oz. Yeah. Anyway. It was, and yeah, all the adults that didn't have kids were hungover. The adults that did have kids were getting screamed at. And there were some adults that were both. And I don't think any of the adults had a good time. I think the kids were terrified.

The only kids who, the only people who had a great time were kids between like 14 and 9. Nine, you're a little too old to be scared by the cannon. Fourteen, you're a little too young to be resentful and pessimistic of things. True. Fifteen, life's over. This is no. Everything sucks. I'm going to start painting my fingernails black.

Tell my parents that they suck. That's right. Well, so the all-star game will release more names of people that made whatever team they're on, and good for them. And we can argue about it. No. I'm looking forward to that. That is one thing I will not do.

Why? Because, listen, there are things that can be debated. No. Potential trades or what teams take in expansion drafts and whether a contract for a player is too much or too little or whatever. But I am not going to debate anyone over an all-star game selection. Who cares? I'm going to come here.

If you find yourself, you know, I did get mad. once when PK was not allowed into the All-Star game, which was bullshit because didn't he win the Norse that year? There's a little crack. There's a crack. It's fair. It's fair. I'm going to, okay, when they announce the All-Star rosters,

I'm going to bring in six Red Bulls, two for each of us. We're going to smash both of them on our heads, chug them, and debate the rosters. And we're going to do it. We'll see if we don't feel passionately. That's going to be terrible content. It's going to be brutal. You'll see if you don't feel passionately about William Carlson being snubbed.

If you find yourself on Twitter or on Instagram or on Reddit in an all-star game debate about who should have made it and who didn't. Stop it. Get some help. Michael Jordan. Stop and do something else. Just do something else. Agreed.

Right? Fair? No one cares. Doesn't matter. Okay. You know what? You're free to do whatever you want. And you can do that.

but consider this you could even easier not do that all right that's all I have to say on the matter all right

okay cool hey there's a wrestling video that Steve needs to watch apparently according to Jesse now this is only really good for the YouTube version however I guess our reactions

are going to be one more hockey thing oh one more hockey thing tomorrow night the Montreal Canadiens play the Tampa Bay Lightning Tomorrow night's game between the Habs and Lightning

will mark Sergachev's 40th game played this season. Do you know why that's important? Yes, I do. As a result, the conditional 2018 second to Tampa and the 2018 sixth to Montreal round draft picks included in the Druen-Sergachev trade will remain with their respective teams. What are the odds?

So it's just Druen for Sergachev straight up. The draft picks they traded are now nullified because Sergachev is going to play tomorrow in Montreal. wow that's pretty good that's crazy a little too perfect also

he's freaking sick yeah on that second goal holy he's unreal how do they have Victor Hedman and him and Stralman

Stralman Bergevin Bergevin and the Leafs at least being dumb jeez Stralman could have been ours the whole damn time

well nah Stralman's a complicated case um so this wrestling video uh this all comes about because Steve looked at me and said, Hey man,

so your wedding's on the 27th and more importantly, I just need to know if there's anything planned for the next day because Royal rumbles on and I'm really excited about it. It's going to be the first all women's one. And I'm pretty sure Ronda Rousey is going to be in it. That's the hot rumor to which Jesse said, I hate wrestling. Wrestling sucks.

And he's wrong. I don't want, To bash wrestling. Because a lot of people who listen to this show are big wrestling fans. By bashing wrestling, you're a wrestling fan. Because that's all wrestling fans do. Say how bad it is. They do bash wrestling.

Yeah, for sure. But I saw this video. Didn't we go to Raw together? Twice. You guys did. We did. You didn't. I did not.

I didn't say I hated it. I did not. I enjoyed going. I won't watch it. Or was it SmackDown? Because I saw one of each. Did we go to both? Yeah, we went to both together.

Jesus, Adam. I sat beside you. I know. There's a video from Ring of Honor Wrestling. Okay. Oh man, this is the younger, these are like the minor leagues, right? Sort of. There's a lot of smaller promotions, smaller than WWE, but they're supposed to be very good.

And if you're listening, you can head to our YouTube channel, check this out. I will do my best to describe it well. There is a man in what I can only describe as black underwear. He flipped a man in pink pants. Okay, nope. I'm done now. That's so stupid This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen

What was that? They're air kicking each other They're drop kicking each other This is theater of the absurd No, what's happening right now? Okay No, what was that? So, okay

Wait, one, two, three, four, five Six people drop kicked each other At the same time To no effect All of them got up. What? Jesse, like, you can't just be like, look at the shittiest thing of all time. And that's what all of wrestling is.

What the f- He goes for a clothesline. The whole thing- And the guy flips over it. Like, oh, oh, try to close. Oh, I went for a clothesline, too. Nope. Dropkick one.

The whole thing is a botch. Dropkick two. Botch. And then every guy gets together and they all do drop kicks together. That is the dumbest thing ever. That's like a bad 90s video game trying to do wrestling. Wrestling is hard. It's hard because all of those guys did incredible athletic things.

And all of it sucked. All of it sucked. Like it needs to be cool. It doesn't just need to be athletically impressive. It needs to be cool as well. So here's the thing. Jesse, when you upload this show on YouTube, can you upload this clip separately

so at least people can see it right away? Or just give a time marker. Time marker works. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then I'll cut it after. What the hell was that? Do you want to see one more time? No.

I'm upset I saw it twice. You started bashing it five seconds in and then it just gets worse. It starts off bad and gets so much... Like, what was that? That's the worst part, the arm flip. It gets funnier. This is a three-way tag team match.

This is supposed to be the most high-flying, crazy, incredible thing. I don't know, man. Not one of them takes a bump. Not one. They all remain unscathed. Also, I'm pretty sure at the very end they made a mistake because this guy is holding up his fist, it looks like, to his teammate. he's

what's hilarious they made a mistake when they go for the six way do they make a mistake doing a six way dropkick Steve just as crime

wasn't a mistake also technicality while they were all kicking each other in the air six different ways two of the guys were standing

beside each other oh my god kicking the wrong direction and you just know before the match they were like we're gonna blow off

everyone's fucking socks with this they're gonna go nuts I would love to hear the crowd audio of what's going on. Is there audio? I need to hear this every every member of that audience who screamed is lying to themselves yeah i know that was so bad that was really bad adam and i saw one of the matches of the year when we saw raw we saw kevin owens seth rollins when seth rollins decided to jump off of all of the air canada center

that was jericho interfered that was crazy that was a great match i think who did we get to see Jinder Mahal face? Was it Randy Orton? I think so, yeah. That was a pretty decent match. We got to see some good matches. I thought you were calling him Jinder Mahal face.

I'm like, I don't think that's what they call him. It's Jinder Mahal. Adam face. Jesse face. I need to hear your thoughts on wrestling face. Anyway, Jesse doesn't like wrestling,

so hate tweet him. I don't like it. I don't understand it. Okay, here's what I need you to do. Send Jesse the longest responses you possibly can about why he should like wrestling

make sure they're extremely long what are you doing Adam I need you to stall because I'm going to show Jesse another video Jesse Steve's going to show you

another video so I'm supposed to stall what do you want to talk about I want to ask you some questions me personally yes

okay first of all what did you have for breakfast this morning I had poached eggs on avocado and toast because I'm a millennial what are you looking at

what you thought you thought That was stupid, Jesse. Just you wait. Oh, here we go. Are you going to prove my point more? That wrestling's stupid?

Oh, no. He does not do that. Oh, no! No! All right, show them. I'm out of tears. This is a viral clip. So everyone who, please put this in the video, but if you forget or whatever, everyone,

what I typed in to get to this clip was wrestling penis twist on YouTube. Jesse, I just want to show you. All right. so there's a guy with bleach blonde hair and some guy who looks like Captain America with a mustache and The guy who the guy with blonde hair has grabbed mustache man by the penis but mustache man is Flexing angrily and using his penis strength. Sorry. It's one of those videos where a guy reacts to the video Oh my god. I know it's stupid. Oh Look at this. No have mercy on me

And he flipped oh my god He flips him with his penis? He flipped the guy with his penis. Adam, I just... Yeah, wait a second. I have to see this. Oh, wait. The guy with the penis flipped the other guy who was grabbing it.

Yeah. I thought he threw him around by the dick. The guy grabbing the guy's dick got flipped because the guy with the penis swung his dick so hard that it flipped the guy grabbing it. This is what happens when you don't skip leg day, which is part of your penis. And people try to tell me that wrestling is fun to watch.

It is. I mean, that was kind of funny. When Triple H doesn't win every time. Look, wrestling has flaws, okay? I don't understand. When you reach a certain age, I used to watch wrestling as a child because you see these giant men do these crazy athletic feats

and you appreciate the storylines because you, like, half believe them. And when you grow up, you realize it's a scripted mess most of the time because the scripts can never go right. They can never do what they're supposed to do. So often it's like they have a perfectly, amazingly scripted thing, and then it's like dude breaks his leg mid-match. Dude gets a concussion three minutes into the match.

like there's so many stories where it's like so and so is like being told orders mid-match like you're supposed to do this now because he forgets everything because he got knocked unconscious and then the actual matches when you know they're fake when you've been watching

wrestling for years you see how just unrealistic an actual fight that is in comparison to an actual fight like if you watch the UFC and then you watch wrestling

Holly Holm what a chin by the way what do you do? why is this entertaining? explain to me represent in as many words as possible please represent every wrestling fan

who's listening to this and yelling at me and telling me that I'm wrong tell me why I'm wrong Steve I think you should have asked this question six months ago when you were face-to-face with, even shaking hands with, Eric Young, one of the NXT tag team champions?

Yes. Sure. I shook his hand. Yeah, but you didn't ask him that, did you? You didn't tell him wrestling sucks, did you? I never said wrestling sucks. If he had asked me if I enjoy watching wrestling, I would tell him I don't understand it.

Maybe he thinks Tim and Sid's social media sucks. How about that, Jesse? How about that? See, Steve is internetting right now. He doesn't have a compelling argument. He's just trying to be hurtful. No, it's ad hominem. No, it is...

It's still fun to watch. What takes some of the fun out of it is... Is it the penis twisting? Or the six-way air kicking? Drop kicking? I love how they call it a double drop kick, by the way, because two feet are in the air, not one. Yeah.

Because I'm pretty sure a drop kick is two feet in the air, but it's a double drop kick. Who cares? Who cares? It's a whoopee and a yippee. Things that would never be practical in a fight. No. You can't dropkick someone.

Did I tell you about when I went to a martial arts place near my house? I went to one thing and about five minutes in, I'm like, I've made a mistake. But I'm going to go through the whole hour just to see how far this goes. so we're we're like i like i have a partner and they're like all right so the first thing you're gonna do don't actually do it but the first thing you're gonna do is you're gonna spit and i'm like oh shit i'm at a self-defense class i'm not spitting on anyone in a fight okay you're gonna spit and you're gonna knee in the groin and then you're gonna and one of the hits they showed me And this is gonna be much better on the YouTube version, but like most of this show right now

Yeah, everybody's out there the podcast is so we're doing too many videos. I'm coming at Adam now. All right, Adam I got my my two fists I'm ready to go and what's gonna happen is I'm gonna swing around with my right hand and I'm gonna come down and yeah Like this with all my fingers together, and I'm gonna I'm gonna like hit you in the neck with like my Index finger knuckle. Why? Great question.

Why? Because he's never doing that in a fight. If you're gonna swing around and hit someone, hit them. I am punching them. Yeah. Full fist in the face. Yeah. In the mouth.

Right in the jaw. In the nose. No, you hit them in the jaw. Yeah. Right in the jaw. Right in the jaw. Yeah, that's the mouth. I- I'm not gonna finger flick them.

The only way that might help is they might stop the attack to be like, Did you just flick me with your fingers? That reminds me of like the Austin Powers, like, Judo chop, and then he doesn't know what he's doing, but yeah, yeah, mmm. Yeah It was a very strange experience in my life. Hey, should we do the press conference? Can I tell you one more? Oh my god. Guys! The podcast ended 20 minutes ago for most people. No, no. I just got a text from Mrs. Dangle. Almost done? Do you want to see one more video?

I'm just gonna text back. Yes, then. Oh, one of the wrestlers kissed the other. And he looks very upset about it, and he kissed him back and the other guy looks very upset about it Are they are these kiss attack what the they are kiss attacking each other? This is Japan right Japan Japan has fun with their wrestling though They do Japan is okay. This has gone on way too long by the way the hairstyles are fantastic So okay the pecs are getting closer together, so I'm thinking this is just gonna be a makeout session pretty soon. Nope No? Oh, wow, he kissed him all the way to the

mat! Oh, that kiss hurt! He knocked him down with his kiss. This guy's got powerful lips. Oh! And then he gave him a German suplex onto his own head that looked pretty dangerous. Oh my god, we got that now? Get me out of this.

Jesse's crying for the third time this segment. The Presser SDP The Steve Dangle Press Conference Steve! It's Jesse. Did you know

that the Vegas Golden Knights tweeted out your video? Yeah! That was neat. That was pretty cool. Thought I'd bring that up. After we've criticized their Twitter account twice. That was... I think fairly. Yeah. No, that was uh, that was pretty neat. And then I got tagged in something today

for like, I don't know it was like some promotion for the Vegas Golden Knights and six people were tagged in it and I was one of them. It's like, why? You did a video. You mentioned that. Yeah, not like cheering for them.

I was very visibly upset in the video because my team lost to theirs. I think that's why they tweeted it out. No, I got tagged in something else today that was like promoting, like, come to Vegas or something like that. No, maybe it's because I'm not from Vegas. Or they saw how many Leaf fans poured their money into the city and were like, that's pretty cool. We want more of that.

For Adam and Steve, for Million Dollar Bash, who is the first Leaf player you trade away when starting a new GM mode in NHL hmm

Joffrey Lupo doesn't count what no it doesn't count nobody would nobody would take him he's uh

no actually you probably could there should be like a come on mode where like you can just like Nathan Horton's not there and Joffrey Lupo's

not there I because I'm a nerd and care I diminish all their skills to like 38 which is the minimum so I can't

like play with them And they just sit in the Marlies Scratched Perfect And they don't complain Because they suck How do you demand That's so

I would feel bad Like I would They're not playing Yeah you're right You're right Like Horton should be Permanently Gone

But Is Chris Is Chris Pronger On the Coyotes In that game He ought to be Why is Nathan Horton On the Leafs

And Chris Pronger isn't And why was Pavel Datsy Not on the Coyotes No Horton should be In the game Oh he's not Horton's not Is he on the Leafs

Yeah I think so No, he's Yeah, he's definitely I think he's in like the 70s Yeah Not Roman Polak Because I like guys You can

Lay the body In the game Although he is very slow And that's a shame I don't know I don't I haven't played BGM In a long time

You know what It used to be my favorite What sucks is that When The team is good You don't want to trade anyone Like, you know There's guys like

Like, okay I would probably You know Freddy Gauthier up over Dominic Moore I would like Yeah Yeah you know what I mean But like

When the Leafs were bad I wouldn't even bother with Be a GM mode In the normal thing I would just do a fantasy draft And I Yeah I would do fantasy draft

And I don't even care about Like depth Like Cause it just occurred to me I was just like Yeah I would have Freddy Gauthier over Dominic Moore But I wouldn't trade more

Because Like I would want depth No When I get an injury In a video game I'm like I get like excited That I get to use

Like some bum on that line Because I try to make that bum play really good I always pass the puck to the bum I want the bum to score I want to get a hat trick with the guy from the minors

Are you calling Dominic Moore a bum? No I'm talking about call-ups Are you calling Ben Smith and and Miro Altonen

and Freddy Gauthier bums? Competent bums Fair enough Yeah you cough you cough up cough on that your inner hatred

for Miro Altonen I don't know I wish my answer was better but I don't have a great answer for that because honestly I try it's weird but I've had this

thing since I was a little kid I like to keep the team as real as possible at least when they're good yeah at least when they're good the correct answer is you immediately

trade JVR Komarov and Bozak and you get a haul do you? yeah what did you get? because I have no feelings

for my video game characters check out the big brain on bread that's a good reference last question it's January so we have to do our next

Stanley Cup predictions Oh! Well, last episode I said Vegas vs. Tampa. I do not believe that. Man. Still Tampa. Definitely still Tampa. In the East.

And I think Nashville in the West. I don't remember who I said last time. I think it was Tampa-Nashville. Somebody linked it. I'm still saying Tampa-Nashville, man. But, how many... You guys are going to Tampa-Nashville again? I'm not going to change it just because I don't believe that anybody else can beat this.

Who's beating Vegas? Nashville is beating Vegas. Are you sure? Yeah. Didn't Vegas just shut them out? Nashville's beating Vegas in the playoffs. Fucking Vegas. Vegas is nuts.

Vegas is nuts. Vegas is nuts. Come on, man. Okay, I'm going to say Tampa. Don't buy that much. No, Tampa, Nashville, but I'm so close to saying Vegas. You're going Tampa, Nashville for two months in a row? Yes, but I'm so close to saying Vegas.

Jesse, what do you say? Vegas was so crazy. I'm going to go with... How is Vegas? How are we having this conversation? I'm going to go with Winnipeg again. I had Winnipeg last month. Good pick.

Very good pick. And last month I also had Washington. They're still in first. They are still in first. Man, I think I'm with you. I think Washington's going to have a great playoff because no one's talking about them. There's no pressure. I'll keep it the same.

Adam's convinced me. I think they're going to be great. I think Washington's going to go really far. Washington win a bag. Stanley Cup final. Washington, third round team this year. Woo! First time in Ovechkin's career.

Woo! Never made it out of the second round. That's what I think. That's my hot take. My hot prediction. It's not really a take. Okay? I'm so close to saying Vegas.

Don't be like that. I'm not going to until February. Don't be like that then either. Let them play a year. When Vegas has, like, 80 points by the beginning of February, I might change my mind. I'm just saying. Then you'll be the guy that picked Vegas. My birthday is March 12th.

Will Vegas have clinched a playoff spot by then? Yes. Probably. No, well, March 12th is early. Yeah, I know. And I think the answer is yes. All right. All right.

How many points will they... Jesse's showing me more security. It's not wrestling, it's fake martial arts. It's just one of those kung fu guys who's like, what YouTube channel is this? Oh, this is Joe Rogan. He loves fake martial arts.

That's so dumb. Alright, we're wrapping it up. We love you guys. We'll see you next week. I think we're on, what, Tuesday, Thursday next week? Whatever the Leafs don't play, we have an episode that day. I think we're Tuesday, Thursday next week. We love you guys. Have a good one. Bye.

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