The Steve Dangle Podcast - Veghastly | April 25, 2022

Episode Date: April 26, 2022

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Erik Källgren injures Alexander Ovechkin (00:00), the Canadiens remember Guy Lafleur (27:00), do you abide by Stanley Cup superstitions? (35:00), the Vegas Golden Knights are spiralling and what is happening with Robin Lehner (43:00), the Calgary Flames are very good (1:05:00), MONSTER JAM! (1:15:00), and a Philly radio station tells us to shut the BLEEP up (1:28:00). Originally aired: April 25, 2022 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/x9WM5ppY0os Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. We've joined The Athletic and you can too! Hit the link to subscribe: https://theathletic.com/sdp Visit this episode's sponsors: Get 20% off + free shipping with the code DANGLE at manscaped.com. That’s 20% off + free shipping with the code DANGLE at manscaped.com. It’s time to get wet and clean with your new MANSCAPED™ Shower Routine." https://manscaped.com/ CODE: DANGLE https://stathead.com/ CODE: SDP https://betterhelp.com/SDP https://athleticgreens.com/SDP Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Would you be upset With The Toronto Maple Leafs goaltender For what happened to Alexander Ovechkin last night Man that's a weird play It's a weird play If I was a Caps fan yeah probably Probably but I'm a Leafs fan

So I mean it's Eric Shelgren He has a long established reputation of being great And nice No I don't know we just met this guy too Yeah I don't think First off i don't think i think we could take on purpose off the table yes that's very i don't think he's

like you know what i'd like to disrupt his postseason even though they're probably not gonna make it out of the first round trip them have him mangle himself on the boards yeah yeah so that but the second question is and i love i love producer drew for this because producer drew likes to put out stuff that rankles leaf fans he's an abs fan by the way they've lost four straight haha uh second yeah yeah and anytime the leafs do it doesn't matter but they have lost four straight you know going to the playoffs something to freak out about a little colorado might not have it oh what if they don't come up on sports man what if they're the next golden knights but of course producer drew took the replay threw it up on his twitter and said well this looks

dangerous to me and of course he had a bunch of leaf fans go no it's not so the question is objectively is the stick play as he was trying to see it seemingly go for a poke check yes is it a dangerous play because it happened a little bit late obi gets his feet caught up and it looked like a really bad shoulder thing and obviously he was pissed off even going into the tunnel yes uh first and foremost producer drew has been training in the dojo his entire life he has grown up in the greater toronto area as a avalanche fan with a brother who is a leafs fan So he has to deal with this every day. He could log off Twitter and his own flesh and blood is still a dirty,

dirty Leafs fan who he gets to rankle and fist fight for hockey purposes on all occasions. I did a Zapruder film breakdown of the trip yesterday. i think the initial contact made with ovechkin skate was totally accident the initial contact when shelgren uh makes contact with ovechkin's right skate that's a goaltender who is fully extending and then coming back because uh he's he's he's not made of uh i don't know tissue paper he's he's not gonna flap his arms back and then continue to go back until the back of his hands clap together right um the question for me if i'm a capitals fan is could he have taken his stick

off quicker could he have taken his stick off in a different way does his paddle flip up in a way because ovechkin when the initial contact happens ovechkin's fine like he's safe he's planted on his left foot there's no issue i think he thought he would be able to escape shelgren's stick he wasn't able to he trips he's skating at the speed of alexander ovechkin and he smashes into the boards like a freight train like a freight train um i just i don't know i have such a hard time condemning eric shelgren for something that is so run-of-the-mill like it feels like that happens quite often yes or some version of it yeah and and usually to a lesser consequence right it usually doesn't happen that way doesn't end that way not everybody skates like alexander

or Ovechkin. Here's the thing. There's fast cars, and then there's muscle cars. Muscle cars are known for torque, and Ovechkin, to me, has torque. He's fast, but he can pull a trailer. You know how they always say there's a fast shot and a hard shot, and I'm always like, well, what the hell's the difference?

Ovechkin is a hard skater. Yes, yes. 100%. Oh, man. I can't imagine. I felt bad for the boards there, honestly. You didn't go through them. Seriously. Hopefully, he's okay for the playoffs. Obviously, the Capitals It's so funny to say the Capitals, well, they're the weakest-looking team in the East this year.

They also have 100 points. Yeah, and also that's changed a little bit recently, I think. About a month ago, I would have said that. But they've played well. Pittsburgh lost. They keep running into the Leafs. And they're falling down the standings. It's debatable who's the weak team.

And depending on how you look at it, are you throwing New York in there because they have no experience? They're just a goalie. Right. And goal-scoring, I guess. but pittsburgh lost but pittsburgh lost an unforgivable game you can't lose that game all right talk about what game that is philadelphia and yeah you lost to the delf you can't lose to the delf not this season for not now not now yeah when the points on the line are so important and it really does you know if we're gonna go purely on recency bias

god damn it it's tampa's conference again yet again why because they didn't look good the last like two weeks and then now they've had a string of like three wins four straight games that they look good three wins they had eight goals six goals eight goals uh their two eight goal performances were against the panthers and leafs uh and obviously the well the panthers just had a 13 game win streak snap so we should probably throw a little asterisk on that but the rangers are such an interesting case there's so much debate as to whether or not they're a paper tiger i mean they have the best goalie in the league should they well this season should they be punished for that pittsburgh falling off capitals getting stronger but they haven't had the strongest

season even though they have 100 points lol and they're they are a point behind the carolina And Capitals are 12-3-1, I believe, in their last whatever that is. Last 10 is 7-1-2. Carolina is on to their third goalie, and it's looking like it's potentially going to be that guy for game one. Kachetkov? Oh, you're asking me? I think it's his name.

He's supposed to be very good, but you're asking him to be very good immediately. And then there's Boston, who's, hello, you. Hello again. There you're looking at Boston, and you're like, okay. The injuries are starting to pile up for these guys Everybody's kind of aging, they're stars More guys are sitting out

Just for load management as Tavares did And you're like, okay, is everybody going to be healthier Are they going to be able to go on another run in the playoffs There's a lot of holes here, but there's a lot of Teams who are just going to surprise us as well I was off the couch Yesterday when the Leafs won in the shootout And when they tied it

I was that excited I was trying to convince myself When they went down 3-1 that ah you know it is what it is which i never win that argument with myself i was shocked this morning when i woke up and i and i looked at the lfr and it said 19 minutes and 35 seconds or whatever it's like that was too long why why did you get 20 minutes out of that game because going into it i'm like second night of a back-to-back it's on a sunday they're not starting half of their lineup the other half's injured matthews is like giving 75 effort yeah it's not that

consequential of a game they're like oh steve's fired up for it it showed two things happened there um one there was an incident that required review which that always adds on time to the video and those weren't the video reviews you're talking about the injury right yeah there were two video reviews and ovechkin got hurt like that's crazy that's a very eventful game right and it went to a seven round shootout and bleach took too many men calling over time and it was actually a very eventful game um but the other thing is i was uh i was uh i had a stomach bug this weekend and i was extremely low energy and sometimes in those situations i'm like okay i gotta i gotta fight through this and i gotta find stuff to talk about and i almost always find too much i always

overcompensate in those situations so i didn't know it was gonna be that long but i saw the length of the file that i sent drew and i'm like oh and i think uh i think this young man is not gonna go to bed for a while and i woke up this morning it was 19 and a half and i go oh that's long for game 80 huh i thought you literally took an entire period to explain three periods no no almost literally what happened i know i overcompensated for that one all right all right okay so i'm gonna go fully fan on you for a second is anyone else starting to get a little anxious about Matthews hitting 60. Yes.

It's weird, though. He doesn't seem anxious about it. No, and I don't think he's anxious about anything, but I want it so bad for him. Is that fair? I think he's going to try to pull an Ovechkin on Tuesday. He's going to try to light the Detroit

Red Wings on actual fire and then take game 82 off. Whether he's in the lineup or not. You know what I mean? he's just gonna take it off i think because you and i are going to that game against boston yeah yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't play any stars against them if the leafs clinch home ice whether matthews has 60 or not on tuesday friday does not matter in the slightest because like well actually that's

not true it does matter because if you're the toronto maple leafs and you clinch home ice uh on tuesday you still play you could potentially clinch home ice without getting the point yeah yeah the other teams could just lose but you exactly you you have you play a key role in who plays you you could essentially choose your opponent by how how much you take the night off or not and if you're the leafs who do you want to play boston or tampa dude those are two terrible options they're they they're both awful options what do you think i think the leafs probably want the bruins like just because i don't know because of the history because they're both terrible options and you're gonna i mean wouldn't you want it if you had that competitive fire wouldn't you

want a chance at redemption there yes so you don't think tampa's just gonna solve this themselves in the next three games. Oh, no, they're going to. Yeah. I don't even think that's an issue. It's not an issue. No, you don't think so? That's not a debate here.

As of right now, it is. Yeah. Because what are they separated by? Three games. Three games and three points. And then they each have three games left. They got six points up on the board. Oh, I thought it was only one.

Nah. No, that's Pittsburgh-Washington. They just need two wins here. They just need a couple points. Tampa's going to do it. Washington is game in hand on Pittsburgh, and they're only a point behind. So that is interesting.

like i'd look at washington passing boston before i look at uh boston passing tampa wow you're welcome pittsburgh fans by the way yeah at least we're down three one in that one and they held washington to one point you are welcome i uh uh that will be a curious thing i i do have a question about about load management too if you take one game off what does that really do i think it does something does it like because i feel like when kawaii did it in toronto he would take like a week off right and i and i understand maybe in the play getting this close to playoffs you maybe don't want to take a full week but but you know maybe an extra 24 hours i'm sure makes a difference but how much of that is appreciable it makes a difference you think so yeah 100 second item

of back-to-back and you're you're going you're playing a full game of hockey you got so you think in game five of round one that will be that will help yeah no it'll help 100 100 dude well matthews did just take a week off yeah for injury the leafs refused to disclose right i think it's so much easier to be like oh yeah john tavaris has taken a night off against the cat than oh yeah the league's leading goal scorer and potential mvp is taking a week off right like he might i again every member of that roster has an injury all of them all of them they're all injured they're all walking funny this morning or holding something different or they're a little extra attentive when they pick something up like it's wild that hockey is an 82 game regular season

a contact sport is an 82 game regular season what other contact sport has a season this long football you play once a week right it's it's kind of nuts i saw tiktok once with a guy who was i think the offensive offensive lineman for the uh arizona cardinals and like his wife was basically chirping him because he can't like lift up plates and dishes during the week like physically can't do it yeah but then he on sunday he gets ready and stops 300 pound man i'm doing 300 pound man things i heard a story of uh this guy he lived he lived near um it was either a massage place or a chiropractor's office and there was a leafs defenseman who would like limp into this place like decrepit and then he would he would walk out and he'd be totally

fine but like that's a guy who like probably less than 24 hours later is getting crushed by 220 230 pound men several times for the next two and so you're saying with matthews that that week off yes he had and likely has injuries as everybody does yeah like it's sort of like the same argument they made with joffrey loophole you could find an injury to put him on ltir you could find one absolutely not hard to find that in a professional athlete so you're saying publicity publicity wise you're not saying to toronto into the league hey the league's leading goal scorer just wants to take a week off because probably the the headlines would be horrific about that it'd be awful because it's just not a part of the culture right right and i don't think he wanted to take a week off

like i think somebody had to tell him like you need this rest here do you want to win the first round right okay then take the week off then that's the leafs being smart yeah yeah you give you give a player in almost any sport the option they're going to play yeah um i mean it kind of i was thinking about this like with the whole ben simmons discourse and everything i i think we're forgetting that a teammate of his is kevin durant who had the his team had the season on the line and he's like you know what i'm gonna come back because the season is on the line and it cost him a year of his career yeah i'm gonna come back he lasted a quarter and a bit against the raptors and his freaking achilles snapped yep like i don't that feels like uh he might have

like did anyone pay for that decision or like did he just overrule everybody who knows there shouldn't be a situation where you can overrule the team's medical staff right you can play or you can't like is andre kasha barging into the leafs office i'm playing tomorrow but i think it's different right i definitely think that there's a there'd be a scale kevin durant a little different than andre kasha best best offensive player since michael jordan like he's he's insane um and uh and then you've got you know matthews who's an incredible history making goal scorer this year i think that they would have a different sort of sway with management but you know in kevin durant's defense that was the finals this is game 77 to 80 right so it doesn't

matter as much and i could see why they held them out so so you're that what i wanted to get to was that was the suggestion right i think i've told this very embarrassing story before but i'll tell it again um when i worked at the zoo there was the zoo curse where every year a toronto maple leaf would come and do a signing at the zoo and every year they would get traded within like six months um but so nick antropov was doing it one year and i brought a bunch of stuff for him to sign but i was embarrassed about the amount of stuff i wanted him to sign so i got my friend who did not like hockey at all to go on his lunch at the same time as me so he could get some stuff signed as well so i get some stuff signed i say thank you he comes behind me he gets some stuff signed

but instead of being a total geek like me he's like so you're a hockey player huh and uh nick antropov goes uh yep he goes uh how's that going for you and he just goes well my back's fucked and that was mid-career that was mid-career that's actually really funny you know like these guys are all battling heinous shit heinous shit you could i don't i don't know how to how to walk the line with that one right okay well because if a hockey player says there if any professional athlete says they're hurt i'm like oh i guess i believe you so then let me ask you guys this is michael bunting actually injured or is he is he resting injured uh he is oh he'd be out i think you'd be out a month if the playoffs weren't next week wow yeah yeah i mean it's but

that's i'm pulling that out of my ass i'm completely guessing because i don't know some okay let me let me tell you an idea i had a long time ago that i was wrong about okay so one thing i wanted badly is for some sort of sports medical expert to um basically okay if if an injury is disclosed like the team says here's the injury they're gonna be out x amount of time blah i think it's perfectly okay for a medical expert to be like all right so here's what happened here's uh you know the way they're probably gonna go about it here's how i would typically go about it here's how a citizen would go about it and here's how a professional athlete goes about it i think that's fine but when a medical professional

gets online and guesses the injury and the severity which is something that i had a curiosity about before but then seeing it the other day people tweeting like oh yeah i think it could be an mcl with michael bunting and that's four to six weeks that made me uncomfortable yeah it maybe uncomfortable i don't think there was any ill intent but ah man that makes me uncomfortable why is that i don't know i did because everyone immediately goes into a frenzy and it could be over nothing like so we're being told he's going to be out for a month and a half versus sheldon keith going oh he woke up feeling better than expected like so i don't listen we're all going to find out once their season is done whether it's in a couple weeks or a couple months how bad

the injury report after this season's done is amazing it's it's this year i think it's going to be brutal yeah because of the compressed schedule well the compressed schedule and also just how many guys have missed games here and there you know what i mean and how many guys are like coming off of surgeries and mckay of putting his hand in a cup of ice and then and helping to tie the game. Getting his 20th goal. You know, a lot of people clowned Jonas Siegel earlier this season when he wrote an article

saying, how will the Leafs keep Ilya Mikheyev? Dude's got 20 goals! Man, if I were Jonas Siegel, I'd be tweeting that out right now. 20 goals, power forward, good defensive player, gets in people's faces, will fight somebody.

He's going to make a lot of money this summer. In 2015-16, he'd be tied for the Leaf lead in goals. with PA Parenteau. Yeah! Alright. Alright, 20 goals that year. And he's the fourth or fifth Leaf to get 20 goals this year. Oh man.

Matthews, Marner, Tavares, Nylander, Bunting. Might be sixth. Might be sixth. Jeez. Lepushkin soon. Man. As long as the Leafs have more games remaining against the Capitals. Can we say that Lepushkin had a really good night last night?

He did. The deflection in was you know it's a lucky goal but like him blocking shots and moving guys and i really like this guy i i i know that he's limited i know he's got warts but i the team is better with him he gets turned a lot like he does get you can you can walk labushkin if you attack him right the marcus johansson goal yeah totally on him yeah like it's not it's not my favorite thing that he's on the first line like i i i know we've committed to riley boosh uh for the playoffs now it seems like that's what they like but i'd like riley brody back if it was my team you know so i i have to

ask this of both of you why have we committed to riley bush when riley brody worked so well for so long i think i think that shelton keith seems like uh thinks it works better with the six pairings or the six guys you know you can you can spread out brody better and i think uh riley likes playing with labushan i think we see that because they're always out there and they're it looks like they're having a good time they they work well together so i think that's what's going to stick with okay you got to play a certain way in certain situations and bush is going to hold back there's no question yeah it's i like him defending the muck i don't like him defending the rush right okay he loves joining the rush now like he's dude he does it all the time

since he scored his first goal he's like i am eric carlson and it's the oddest thing when his partner is morgan riley who should be the guy on that pairing doing that no yes no yes you know yes i'd like to see riley up there a little it's like remember martin moranson's sick goal against the canucks i think um everybody knows that goal obviously yeah like i know the date i guess like you should get the cannot remember that one the Canucks win? We all have it in our minds. You're clowning on me?

I guarantee you most of the people watching this know. I'm sure a lot of people do. I'm sure they do. The goal against the Canucks won't hit the post. I'm sure a lot of people also don't. Yeah, so tell us. Tell us. Tell us.

Tell us. For people who don't. One of the final games before the COVID shutdown. Remember the game Matthew scored two on Demko and one of them literally transported between his pads? Yes. yes i actually do remember that yes so that happened the third period starts martin john tavaris feeds martin marinchen who goes one on two against the canucks defense to which the canucks defense responded lol what year was this the right before the covid shutdown 2019

okay yeah okay i didn't know if you're referring to the covid shutdown oh oh sorry the first one Yeah, there's been three. Yeah. Oh, fuck. Yeah, good point. So right before the first COVID shutdown, he flies in one-on-two, rips the puck from just inside the blue line,

freaking cracks it off the post. And everyone is just, what? And because of the confusion, he's able to swoop in, get his own rebound and score. His celebration is hilarious because he looks surprised. All the Leafs look surprised. Tyson Berry's face is priceless. Tyson Berry was on the team.

William Nylander faces priceless. I think a big part of the reason he was able to score that goal is no one saw it coming. Boosh? And that's Boosh now. Yeah. That's Boosh. When it was Marner to Matthews to Boosh. Dude, he had one goal in 180

games before joining the Leafs. He has two in 29. Yeah. And five points. And five points. Come on. Watch out, Gretzky. Yeah. Yeah, he cannot be stopped. Yeah, he's going to join 897. Once he's done, he's joining Edmonton's the Edmonton Oilers management group with Paul Coffey,

Wayne Gretzky, Kevin Lowe, all the best Oilers of all time, and Boosh. The question is not, will he score 15 points next year? It's when. Game 81 or game 82? It's gonna happen. It can't be stopped. Okay.

So, I did want to talk about something on Saturday night. Because remember, there were two games this weekend. I actually saw some tweets on Saturday night that were like, or sorry, Sunday night. yes last night going jesus there's another game because there has been a lot in a short amount of time we're used to like two and a half three a week we're getting a tiring three and four it was it was um it was like oh i gotta get up tomorrow too so you know again we go back to this but

there are uh it was even mentioned in the intermission on hockey night canada justin hall being too deep and pinching and having the right idea but not controlling the play and they're able to turn around on him and come back up the ice and score. Oh, in Florida. In Florida. Yeah, he's gotten crushed a few times recently, too. Yeah.

So, like, I know he's playing now, but come playoffs, is he starting? Oh, boy. I don't think so. I mean, he's off the team next year for sure. Okay. For sure. He's got another year left.

He does. They're going to have to find a solution for that because I don't think it makes sense for him to play. I'd like them to try to re-sign Labushkin. And Lilligren needs to be full-time. Sandin needs to be full-time. Giordano will be back, probably. I would like that very much.

So game one of the playoffs, Riley Boosh looks like a thing. They want Muzz and Brody to be a thing. And if he's healthy, it will be. But what if he's not? And then Giordano Lilligren works too damn well. Works way too damn well. Listen, Riley had his little apprenticeship. He doesn't need it anymore.

giordano re-signing in toronto for even one year to play with lilligren sets him up for the rest of his career i think uh he's playing his best hockey with him right now lilligren with muzzin worked for a time and then it super didn't this works game in game out so and then that's not including rasmus andy right uh how comfortable is he on the right well that's that's a little bit of a point of contention but everybody healthy i can't imagine how justin hall plays game one the only way he does is if they're not healthy yeah okay um two and five canadians will hear the words you have cancer that's why every step and dollar raised matters on september 19th join thousands in toronto for the princess

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with their honoring former habs uh no and the gila fleur tribute was no exception but just absolutely unbelievable stuff and it's nice because there is an entire generation multiple generations like we would have been too young to watch g play unless we were like two jesse wasn't born yet you know it's important that you know your history a little bit especially if you're habs fan because there's a lot of it gila fleur is a guy you want to know what did you think of tribute when you guys saw it uh it's just it doesn't it doesn't surprise me it's just a it's a good reminder you know um montreal i i can't help but have a reverence for their fans uh i feel like uh the channel 8 news team just i pure straight hate you but god damn it i respect you

yeah and uh i'm just i'm totally not surprised like when when uh i think it was patrick waugh was like you know why are we doing a moment of silence that guillaume fleur never generated a moment of silence in his entire career um we should be we should be cheering it should it should be an ovation right who said that patrick patrick wa i'm paraphrasing right right but patrick wa is is whatever there's a side he's on the other side so he's gonna find every single way to not be on the side of wherever everybody is. He is truly a silly man, but I was with him.

I was with him on that one. I was with him on that one. There are players who deserve an ovation. Is Patrick Waugh different for the sake of difference? Yeah. I get you. I know what you're saying. I get that.

Patrick Waugh is going to be difficult in every single situation that Patrick Waugh exists in. He just walks up to a business that's closed on her. We'll see about that. should be open. Open for me. Open for me. I'm Patrick Waugh. Yeah, but it was a beautiful thing to see Gila

Fleur being honored like that. That was very, very cool. I think it's important to show the rest of the world what this guy means to the country and the city in particular and the team. He's going to have I believe it's called a national funeral or whatever it is. State funeral.

On May 3rd because just as a person, as a hockey player, he grew into this legend like adam i forget what you called them uh the god tier he's got to your level like especially in montreal right like and you have to be you better be god of gods for montreal to honor you because they've had so many stars well the the pinnacle that i don't think will ever be replicated is maurice rocket richard in terms of like the worship well like didn't thousands of people like he got suspended for the playoffs one one year because he he literally uh axe chopped a guy with

his stick in the head right and so they suspended him for the entire playoffs and the first game the montreal forum erupted and people bought brought flares and they had to evacuate the arena yeah like it i'm talking that's different i'm talking about after he passed oh after he passed yeah after he passed like did they not uh have him in the forum and like thousands of people came to oh yeah their respect yes like that'll that'll never be replicated yeah never be replicated for the rest of the history of the national hockey league but again it's the montreal canadian right and just for for the rest of the world like looking in they're like why is canada celebrating this hockey player it's like no look at what's gonna happen on may 3rd look at what happened

in montreal on saturday night no this guy through hockey means so much to so many people i think it's so important for people to see that and to understand what that means yeah and also much montreal and quebec it's just different it's just different they their relationship with hockey is you know oh Toronto's the hockey mecca yeah Montreal's Montreal and Quebec's relationship with hockey is just different than everybody we got more people but I don't think it means more no yeah it's just it's it's very difficult to explain in the late experiences I think in the late 60s you might have had something comparable I think there's two very different cultures in Montreal and Toronto Toronto was for a long long time very Protestant very stay in your home why

would you go out very whereas Montreal has always been like let's let's get out and have party right it's the catholic protestant it's the um and that's what it was in the 60s and i think if you were to talk to fans in 1967 i think they would have said as a montrealer they would have been like they're they are i live by this team in toronto because they were so well you know we just got to be we're going to be our ourselves and whatever there were people that literally didn't go to the stanley cup parade it was only 20 000 people at the 67 stanley cup parade because are like, they win it like every other year anyway. There's going to be another one.

That was the attitude. There is a difference. And I love the Leafs, and I'm a huge Leaf fan. But it's just not the same. Did he not go? He was on the winning team and didn't go. Really? I'm pretty sure, yeah. I remember that from his book. It was about one of the parades. He just didn't go.

I don't know what they thought was going to happen. Expansion was coming. Now that Gila Fleur has been put to rest, let's have the debate. Should cups with only six teams in a league count as half cups. Did someone tweet that?

Are you tweeting it now? I'm going to get my Twitter fingers ready. That's a full quarter of the league. Should they be considered quarter cups? Quarter cups, man. Actually, no. Is that even a quarter? No, it's not. There was a tweet that was like, he wouldn't even make the fourth line today. And I was like, are you okay? Is everyone okay? Oh, God.

We need to plant more grass so everyone can touch it. I don't think guys I don't think taking a player like that's like saying you know what the fastest car from 60 years ago couldn't even keep up with today's standard car yeah I know

like I have a car that is literally 50 years old and people ask me all the time like is your truck faster or is it your car I'm like my truck is faster than my car of course it is it's 50 years newer are you guys what kind of take is that anyway Gila Florida are we taking away all the cups one yes the original

doesn't matter sorry Montreal you only have seven or eight in the expansion era so you only get to have those i uh i got a moment with the cup recently did you i was in the same room as the stanley cup was it the real one or the fake one it was well if you ask them they say it's the real one they always say it's and they say there's two real ones and i go that's not a thing no that's impossible why do you keep saying that anyway uh it was in the sportsnet studios i got to do a little shoot with it i did not touch it um oh the reason i'm telling you this story is i was looking for the 66 67 leaves on the cup one year or how many three cups away from

being removed nine nine oh nine uh i believe it was the longest you can be on the cup like your one team can be on the cup i think is 61 years and the shortest is 52 it depends on where you end up on the band on the ring yeah either way it's a long time we're getting long have you ever touched the stanley cup uh i think i did when i was like seven okay me too and i feel like if you're a child it shouldn't count because you're not responsible for your limbs have you touched it as an adult no why is that because you know you wouldn't i don't i don't think as somebody who is not a professional athlete and will never work for a professional hockey organization

that you do not have to hold to to the tradition of not touching the cup unless you win it. If the Leafs win the cup and I am invited to touch the cup, I will 100% touch the cup. That's fair. Okay.

I'll take that. Yeah. If your team wins it. It's not mine, man. It's not mine. I don't know. Adam, would you touch it? It's a piece of metal, yeah.

Would you take a picture with it? I've heard of stories of player like active NHL players who their friend wins it and they drink out of it. What's wrong with that? Well, it depends on who you ask. See, to me, OK, I'm just not superstitious. There you go. You're just a little stitious. I'm not.

I'm not even. I'm not even a little stitious. I'm not. I'm a non-stitious. I'm anti-stitious. And really, does the cup mean a lot to me? Absolutely. But does that.

And that's what I meant by it when I said it's a hunk of metal. And I was I was paraphrasing the MLB commissioner. but with the but what i'm trying to say here is like it doesn't like you touching it does not affect the outcome of a hockey game you know that right if you were the captain you know like think about think about think about the logic and jesse one sec but think about the logic that's like no that's like you driving my car and then i get into an accident with my car and i go steve you touch my fucking car and now i'm in an accident yeah but there isn't there aren't millions of people who think your car is like holy who doesn't like a good old honda rich line it is holy

sorry and if you're the uh captain of eastern conference team and you you win the eastern conference finals and the clarence b lawrence trophy i don't even what is it called lawrence campbell b trophy of claire clarence campbell you say 19 names screwed it up i knew it five seconds ago but now you're doubting yourself the lawrence partridge cabredish farms trophy is brought out are you touching it uh so sydney crosby buried that in the ground and good for him good for him like we always talk about how he needs to have a bigger role in the player association and he said what if i just touched the conference trophy and he did it and they were like all right that works yeah he did it and then they won the cup so to adam's point

is being superstitious kind of stupid oh it's definitely kind of stupid but i'm still i can't i'm gonna get lit up for that i know that i know i'm gonna get lit up here what disrespect for the cop like there are people there are people who think i'm a bad person and will never watch me again because i wore a habs jersey last year i had an adult man will absolutely think that about your i had an adult man tell me that uh who i know and who works in broadcasting yeah and i said to him i'm like listen i'm like you work in broadcasting how long you work to broadcasting he's like 35 years i said okay i said so you understand how broadcasting works right you have talk about other teams other than that yeah but you don't understand it's different i'm like

i'm like it isn't he works for a national network it's gonna have to happen to be clear does this person have a driver's license yes god help us like it was just like it was god you know those conversations you have that are literally out of body and you're like i can't believe like this feels like something that joe 1571 on twitter would tweet at me it doesn't feel like something a real human being with kids and a life would say to me. Oh, man. I have known you for several years, and this whole time

I was under the impression you were smart and normal. It's wild. No, they are! When it comes to superstition, they're not normal. It's as abnormal, Steve, it's on the same spectrum as you not touching the cup because you believe it's not yours or because you believe the Leafs won't win

the cup because you touched it. Where do you watch our Leafs game? From my house. yeah you gotta sit on the couch oh damn oh yeah jesse okay explain this one that i had i had a stition explain this one stupid it was very stupid and it all it didn't work it's never uh so adam and jesse got together to watch a playoff game i think it was 2018 and they're like steve you should uh come and i was like i'm not going to because i have to sit at home on my couch

in this certain spot because if I do, they will win. And they didn't. And they haven't since. And you've moved locations and nothing's really changed. Maybe that's how the Leafs finally win a playoff series.

If they get to an elimination game, I have to go watch it at my parents' house. You know what? If they get past the first round, I say you have to burn the couch. Okay. Guys.

It's a very comfy couch. Don't you think he's got to burn the couch? You don't burn a man's couch. are you watching an amazing soft yet deep couch i think we should maybe burn the couch before the playoffs it's such a good lying down couch how dare you are you watching a leafs game on youtube for all the playoffs i believe so yeah well it's funny because i've been talking recently about like oh i don't know if i'm gonna get invited to any leaf playoff games and i was like oh wait i

won't be able to go i have to watch all of them from home so that sucks that you won't be able to do um like you you hosted maple leaf square before yeah like those things are out of the question now you can't go sit between the benches like how you've done before i think if the leafs were to win around and i'm not saying this because i know anything i'm just purely guessing i think if the leafs went around all bets are off and it's going to accelerate very fast like i would not be surprised if i got one of those booths a la tim and sid in maple leaf square and that's where i streamed from i'm serious i'm serious if they made the final i wouldn't be in my house you can almost guarantee i would stream it from the ice they should just put you in the game you

know you sit in the corner that you know you're just on a laptop saying that tongue-in-cheek you know what's wrong with that they should absolutely do that kicking the puck to the players in the corner why can't i do that they should build a little bubble dome at center ice where you sit in there and you call, you stream the game from there. Just give me a helmet.

Drop it from the ceiling. Yeah. But you could be like the shark who got stuck. Remember the shark logo? Yeah. Not logo, flip it,

the mascot. What? Which is still one of my funniest clips. Dude. My favorite clips of all time. It's not even the craziest clip of him.

No. He got shot on fire. That's right. He shot himself on fire. Oh, that poor guy. I want to talk to that dude. That mascot. Yeah, mascots aren't supposed to talk

Highly doubt it's the same person Both instances Oh, both instances I believe was They're probably not still doing it That's why I want to talk to him He's done, you know, he's retired I want to talk to a retired mascot That's coming up on the next

We're talking about retired mascots Yeah, that's right, there's a good Retired mascot round table Hot stove This dude was Carlton And Al Strachan's going to join us too and he's just gonna be grumpy and shitty about it proof of mascots are fun

no the old Carlton like graduated from being Carlton and now he has like another position with the league I think Pete Blackburn said it best and I'm gonna paraphrase here but he said I'm short go Bruins

no he didn't sorry what he said he said fuck Kyrie Irving a few times at the game I know that I know he said that he tweeted that I know I know, but Kyrie Irving, give him the finger back, both of them. But actually, he said if Vegas loses, if this is Vegas' season, this is the most hilarious way to go down. Vegas versus San Jose.

Vegas has control of the game going into the final seven minutes, and they just an offensively terrible mistake. Guy is wide open, puts the puck past Thompson, and they're tied, and then San Jose wins it in a shootout. 4-2, two minutes to go. shoot oh it's two minutes ago two minutes ago why did i write seven two minutes ago it's four two vegas san jose pulls the goalie they score there is no time left on the clock four three the puck crosses the line it's a literal buzzer beater for san jose to force ot it was insane and

then they won in the shootout and then they won because the ot's i mean listen this is karma coming for the golden knights management yeah i feel bad for the players i do too but the man i Too bad for Jack Eichel, most of all. He's not going to see the playoffs again, maybe. They do so many things well. Their presentation is unbelievable. Obviously, their fan relations, unbelievable. It's an event.

It's a destination event to go to a hockey game in Vegas. In terms of managing people, genuinely one of the dumbest organizations in the sport. There is nothing wrong with being ruthless. But when you're ruthless, you do walk a line sometimes of being brainless. and i think in this particular case the way they've treated certain players the way they've lied to agents and lied to and i'm not just talking about alan talking about everybody

the way they've they've handled player exits you know i think uh i've seen a few people say you know every time the new shiny thing comes along anytime the new prize but oh is it petrangelo this year is it eichel this year who you know who do we commit to long term that we can fire out the door and i mean listen you get a team together that's aging they are all of them have significant injury history all of them and you have players like nick suzuki who are just coming into their own who could have been coming up in your organization if you just left it just leave it alone you guys made the stanley cup finals didn't they trade all of their three first round picks from their first yeah brandstrom's in uh in ottawa ottawa suzuki's in montreal i forget who

the third guy was glass tanner glass cody glass no really tanner glass is the he's no that's like a tough guy from years ago is that right yes okay mr glass can are we doing the robin letter situation well yeah go ahead so three days ago emily caplan tweets that uh robin lennar is done he's gonna undergo season ending surgery he suffered uh he last attempted to play through a major knee injury he suffered on March 8th and then later that day they go to Pete DeBoer and they ask him hey so Robin Leonard's done Pete DeBoer says it was a maintenance day today I expect him at practice tomorrow and I expect him dressed on Sunday so they're like no he's not done for the season that report is false Friedman on Saturday says there was two reports

that Robin Leonard is out for the rest of the year and having surgery I've heard the same rumors Vegas has disputed that Today they said they were hopeful He'd be in the lineup tomorrow Which would be yesterday Nobody's talking but this is the best I can piece together What's happened is Leonard who's playing hurt

Was upset at some of the criticism And also being pulled the other night Because he got trashed in the media Like a week ago by Pete DeBoer He did? I missed that I don't remember exactly what it was But DeBoer threw him under the rug What did Pete DeBoer

And Pete DeBoer's like, yeah, the goalie let him bat goals. Yeah, he was basically like, we lost because of Robin Leonard. He might as well have said that. Right. He might as well have said that. At least that's what I and everyone else took from it. Back to Freeman on Saturday. Nobody's talking about this, but this is the best I can piece together.

What's happened is Leonard, who's playing hurt, was upset at some of the criticism and also being pulled the other night. And I believe he informed the Golden Knights on Thursday night that he was going to have surgery and shut it down. in the last 24 to 48 hours everybody involved was trying to see if there was a solution to all this

that would have him in the lineup I guess we're going to find out tomorrow night and yesterday he did not start but he was the backup goalie and he was sitting on the bench and he was dressed in a must win game did you find it I'm reading this from Yahoo

Sports and this is a DeBoer quote but this is from four days ago on Thursday And so they basically last Thursday, it was essentially a season-saving win against the Caps. They're all season-saving. But there was a scathing review of Robin Leonard, according to this article,

after the 3-2 loss to the New Jersey Devils. But here's the Pete DeBoer thing. This is where I... He says stuff, and I'm like, you don't need to say it that way. No. So here's what he said. The decision to start.

We pay him to start games like this. Yeah. It's the most important time of the year. He's healthy. He's fresh. He's got the energy, and we need him at this point in the year. No, no, no.

Yeah. So, yeah. None of those things are true, so continue. After that New Jersey game, I felt like I wanted him to give us the opportunity to bounce back

and have a big game for us. On the decision to change, I really liked our start. We gave up our first goal, blah, blah, blah, blah. I, so, so you've got your coach last week

saying he's healthy, he's fresh, and we're paying him to start, and now, potentially, he could be done. He wasn't healthy through any of this. He's been dealing with this since March

And he told them he was going to have surgery And shut it down because he was so pissed At the way everything is going And then they're like no don't do that Don't have the surgery and let's figure something out And then they don't He doesn't have the surgery and then he's there Sunday This has only happened once that I can think of

Where a player Again these guys are always playing through heinous shit And the team alienated the player So badly that the player said Okay you know what fuck you I'm getting the surgery Robin Leonard's former teammate Evander Kane the winnipeg jets alienated him uh on the way out the door rightly or wrongly we can't get into the whole long history of that but he said all right you know what fuck you guys i'm just

gonna go get surgery and then he did that was right after back to tracksuit yeah back on tracks yeah so robin lenner he's playing through all this for the team and it goes completely unappreciated by the team's head coach so he's now the one with the sword through his back and he said all right you know what fuck you guys i'm just gonna get the surgery then i'm in pain this sucks uh i want this to be done and here's the thing about uh the ruthless reputation that the uh vegas golden knights have is they for their entire franchise's history have been in a position to be ruthless they're not right now and i think they forgot that i don't think they realize that they're desperate you put all your eggs in the robin leonard basket and he's he does

he does get injured he doesn't yes but you better make sure he like that dude has like cucumber and rose petal flavored water you better roll out the red carpet for him he better be getting hand massages every time he's sitting there in the video room you got to do everything for this guy because that's your team in net you traded away the reigning vesna trophy winner and said this guy we want him over that guy and and when you could have had them both and you gave him lauren persuas a backup you know you're lucky you've fallen ass backwards into logan thompson and then now to adam's quote you're lying in the media saying he's healthy when we all know he's not so here's what so of course robin lennar's fucking piss so maybe so this is from russian machine uh so

they're so great this site they're so great so good uh deborah and robin lennar after new jersey this time of year you're looking for a guy to be better than uh the guy at the other end that wasn't quote yeah yeah that wasn't the case yeah so i just that's a coach who's hot under the collar because he lost against his former team well you're the coach though shut up yeah that's what led lennar to go to management be like i'm gonna have the surgery and then emily to tweet that he's gonna go have surgery and then for them to come back and be like no he's not having the surgery he's still gonna play that would piss me off too i would have this beat deborah might have just cost vegas their season well and so here's the question right because because because

because they were so mark andre flurry despite everything vegas wanted last year was successful for them and he won the vesna trophy just like despite their protestations they had a vesna winning goalie my god he only took them three rounds deep when was the last time a vesna trophy happened in toronto ever we'd have a statue built outside for mark andre flurry right now we have literally built a statue for the last of us so yeah and there was johnny bauer and terry satchuk Split it. In 66? Seven?

It's a long time ago. Yeah, it's a long time ago. So they have both goalies. And here's what they could have done last year. They could have just fucking left it. You could have had Marc-Andre Fleury for one more year, who, by the way, is 8-1 since being traded to Minnesota. 8-1.

You could have had Marc-Andre Fleury and Robin Leonard. One of them goes down with injury. You got the other one. And you got a really good team. You still have Mark Stone. You still have Max Pacioretty. you still have uh petrangelo do you need did you need an update over chandler stevenson at center sure did it need to be jack eichel no it didn't no it really didn't and i'm not saying that that

was a mistake like jack eichel could still be great for them he's he's not gotten into it as the typical jack eichel this year cody glass by the way is in nashville uh cody glass is involved in that deal so they got they had three first round picks in their first draft and got rid of all of them so i'm just what i'm trying to get at here is is like again you it goes back to being ruthless or brainless at a certain point you're just being stupid about this i understand want to get the best player available in the market but you when you do it the way the golden knights do it you pay a higher price than you would if you just waited and developed people and number two you had a good team anyway you know like it like that first year golden knights team i

can understand how they surprise some people last year with mark andre flurry flurry and robert laner it surprised everybody when they stopped scoring in the third round it shocked everybody that montreal beat them it was it was so just awful hockey to watch like i streamed that whole series awful hockey they played awful hockey like it's so it's it's it was surprising that montreal was winning until you watched yeah and you're like this team sucks so what's crazy about this though with vegas is next year they could come roaring back absolutely all the pieces are still there they're all injured but they're still there they have a summer to be away from a management group that seems genuinely taxing also question though can they can they even play all

the players that they have next no i don't think so like they're gonna have to drop some talent like i know they try to trade to donov i think they're gonna have to oh yeah more guys pitched out the door oh i'm still playing yeah and scoring oh my god i forgot about that with the flurry lennar situation i think their argument would be it worked for that year but they couldn't figure out the cap going forward spending because it was it's a seven million dollar cap hit for mark andre flurry that's been uh 50 percented now to 3.5 for minnesota and that's five million for robin lennar a lot of money for 2025 but they didn't have to make the commitment to robin lennar they went out and got him while

Marc-Andre Fleury was very clearly the guy and then they made a long-term commitment to him as very clearly the heir apparent to the starting net and they didn't expect Fleury to play like that oh man

and I'm sorry that that happened to Vegas I'm really sorry that that happened to them the goalie who they had committed to the least won the Vesna a trophy what are you doing i know you're talking about a team that like does not know how to count their blessings uh all that's so true at all dallas and vegas are fighting it out for the last wild card spot there's three games left and there's a three-point separation

so it's from what i looked at this morning dallas dallas and vegas have been going after you after you yeah after you dallas will have to lose basically all three games for this to happen could happen and here's the interesting thing oh wait is that even updated because i think they might only have two games left let's have a look here so it should be updated by today okay i don't think it's updated right now oh i don't know what it is okay so here's so the golden knights and stars play each other golden knights and stars play each other tomorrow but i want you to pay attention to this because their last two games are really interesting they play each other and after tomorrow night's game which will decide a lot the schedule for the golden knights is chicago

on wednesday but it's second half of a back-to-back they should still be able to squeak that out but second half of a back-to-back and then friday against the very good st louis blues who may not want to start all their stars oh see that's i think the game i'm more worried about is chicago why is that because they have been so so goddamn bad they've been so bad and if you're chicago you're like this season stinks but the only thing in the way of it's stinking forever and the beach is one last game well i don't know if it's their last game but this game i can completely railroad a team's entire season. That would feel good.

And these guys eliminated us. These guys eliminated us in the bubble. Yes. Guys, let's get them. Okay. Let's get them. Like I said, Knights have Dallas tomorrow, Wednesday Chicago, Friday Blues. For Dallas, and this is why I think

they got to win tomorrow night, because then I think it's over. Dallas, they'd have to lose. And then Wednesday, they've got Arizona on the second half of a back-to-back who have been poo who've been super pooey and then uh friday i wrote down for some reason when i made my notes i wrote dallas is playing dallas because i'm an idiot um they're playing anaheim and i'm yeah at home though and i'm who's been better at home actually anaheim's not been playing that well well they're they're better they're better they're better than

the coyotes here's the thing has arizona won this month they had a they had a good comeback the other night like uh that ended in a loss but yeah it was a good comeback they were they were down 4-1 boca we mama got his first goal to make it 4-2 they come back and i think they lost in the shootout yeah which that's not a loss i don't think they have a regulation win in april dude the both the coyotes and habs were playing so well habs of the habs are disgraceful and the on the ice anyway and uh arizona like they've both been so bad so bad they're both they've I just think it's going to be hilarious to see this Vegas-Dallas game tomorrow. I can't miss.

It's like a wild card game almost. That's exactly what it is. It's amazing. I mean, literally, I suppose. If Dallas wins, it's over. Yes. Yeah. Season's over for Vegas, yeah.

And speaking of Anaheim, Ryan Getzlaff played his last game for the Ducks last night and even got an assist. If Robin Leonard doesn't play that game against Dallas, I think it might be over. Might be over for him. In Vegas? What are they going to do? Punt another goalie out the door?

Man, if Robin Leonard... Why are you acting like that's weird? It's Vegas. If Robin Leonard comes up, honestly, the least... Imagine, because Campbell has spent some money this year. If you went off what Jack Campbell... If you had signed Jack Campbell to an extension in November

versus what it would be now it's millions of dollars apart millions if you could somehow fit a campbell leonard duo because both of them get injured and you split it down the middle 41 and 41 boys load management come on there's too much money you think they can't do the five million couldn't they do it for because they get five leonard five could you not do campbell at three and a half even that that's eight and a half million dollars the the leaps don't have that luxury the terrible precedent that vegas management has set with ownership is the cap doesn't matter we'll find a way around it and if they blow it this season and everyone's you know basically neck is on the line management is gonna say i don't give a shit find a way that owner wants a

cup too and i appreciate that i love that it's great the way they have gone about it is unsmart I'm going to tell you who the next goalie of the Vegas Golden Knights is. Tell us. If Robin Leonard decides, hey, fuck these guys and my surgery. They did it to two starting goalies in a row. It just fucking blows my mind. Go ahead. Peter Mraz.

Go. Do you have a guess? Peter Mraz. Carey Price. No. Oh, no. Come on. No way.

Carey Price does not want to sit through the rebuild in Montreal. Vegas sees new shiny thing with a big name. Don't care about the price. Too much money. Hey, I see what you said. We're going to do it. Tell me it doesn't make sense. I mean, I don't know how that makes sense cap-wise.

I don't know how they make that trade. The cap doesn't matter for Vegas. I know it doesn't, but it does sort of somewhat matter. Not really. The Donov to the Habs. Oh, yeah. That actually might work. We're figuring it out.

So are the Habs rotating 50% for the last, what, five, six years of his contract? Weber's going to be involved somehow. Oh, there's the LTIR space. It's literally right there. And then Shea Weber makes his return game one of the playoffs next season. That's Shea Weber's music. And then he's out as the Golden Knights? Come on.

Shea Weber and Carey Price become Vegas Golden Knights. Then you figure it out. Man. Man, I'm Carey Price. I get to control where I go. i'm definitely not going to an organization that treats players and most specifically goalies like shit okay i'm a god in montreal or i could go to vegas where i'm some asshole like well he might you know carrie price is a pretty quiet guy he may want that i don't know no no i don't mean with

fans oh no of course not the fans are hardcore they're intense tourism no i mean the way the organization treats you you're a literal deity or some asshole oh yeah i allowed four goals last night because my injured knee has been bugging me oh well what if you fucking stop them instead maybe the problem here is you know maybe it's not even anything else but pete deborah or and callie mccrimmon and probably the gm i mean listen you had gerard who took you to the stanley cup finals and you're like sorry gerard fuck off sorry get out they like they do it to everybody everybody what is shit runs downhill yeah you've never heard that before it does man it does like i i how do you mccrimmon shinton yeah no that's not man i didn't want to

leave you with the the visual of him anyway and it's run downhill it's just run it runs more like it trickles downhill and it's like a slide i don't know like looking at the vegas gold knights when the season began how do you fuck that up and they did injuries one but two bad management they had a trade that didn't go through because they didn't know the man's contract no it's not their fault they had to make that trip because of the injuries but they're also not great at doing things you you traded the vesna winner without telling him and it wasn't even the most embarrassing thing you did in a calendar year like dude that's terrible you sorry you traded the vesna winner without telling him for no one yep and it wasn't the most embarrassing

thing you did in a calendar year retire oh my god you sorry sorry like things are everything is higher stakes for the Vegas Golden Knights because of where the expectations were so the bigger the mistake the more it should probably cost you your gig you are the owner of an NHL franchise you have to choose between

Kelly McCrimmon and Chuck Fletcher to GM your team oh Kelly McCrimmon all day all day at least I know Kelly McCrimmon can get rid of contracts Chuck cannot do that at least Kelly McCrimmon is silly with a good team Yeah, he's silly and he's won.

Chuck Fletcher just was like, I'm going to put together a perennial first and out team and then I'm going to go to the Flyers and spend all the owner's money. Like, that's his career, man. That's Rich coming from Leaf fans. Hey, like, my book is not called This is Wonderful and My Team is Successful.

Yeah. It's called This Team is Ruining My Life. I want to talk about the Calgary Flames for just a second here. This is a team that could very, very, and we're one goal away from this, they have three players with 40 goals.

Yeah, man. And they could have a fourth if Mangia Ponte somehow manages five goals in the next three games. Which he's done. He's done it. Why is everybody telling me Johnny Goudreau is not

the Hart Trophy winner? Huh? Why are people saying that? Because he's not. Because obviously everyone scores 40 on that team. It's not even special. No, I mean, they are special.

Who's got 58 in the Leafs? I have to stick with Matthews. I'm sorry. But you know, Flames fans, you understand. If Matthews doesn't hit 60 and he doesn't produce anything these next two games, like... What about... Where's he sitting? Well, where does...

Hayer's quarter over here. Where's he sitting for the hard trophy? Not first. Whoa. Front row at the NHL Awards is where he's sitting. What's wrong? Why don't we have a best line award? That would be a great idea.

Because, like, listen, if we're talking... The Legion of Doom Award. Ooh. Because that's the best line name in the history of the NHL. I was about to say, it's certainly not the best line, but it was maybe the best line name. Agent of Duo. I do like it.

Who would you say is the best line in NHL history, then? Not the line that never won the Cup. They're pretty close. I mean, they were four and out, but they were close. Yeah. What were we talking about? Oh, yeah. If there was a best line award,

it would certainly be the Flames top line. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And last year, and the year before, and the year before, would have been Marchand, Bergeron, and Pasternak. Oh, yeah. They would have been perennially...

Yeah, Bergeron knows he's slam-dunk getting nominated for at least two awards every year. Yeah, I'm going to be in for the Selke and Best Line for like five straight years. And if we make it to the finals, cons might. Oh, my God. Please retire. I'm begging you.

No, you know what's crazy? It could be Boston, Carolina, and Carolina with no goaltending in the first round. And if the Leafs, even if the Leafs get through, it could still be Boston. I'm just throwing that out there. Oh, my God. Throwing that out there, Leaf fans. I hate you so much.

Sorry, go ahead. Go ahead. I just thought it was interesting. Elias Lindholm hit 40 goals. He's got 40 assists, 80 points. His other two line mates are way ahead of him. Johnny Gaudreau's got 111 points. Matthew Kachuk got 101 points.

That is just unbelievable. 300 points, essentially, because Gaudreau's probably going to get up a few more. They're essentially going to get 300 points from three players. think about that that's like combined plus minus let's do what's their combined why who knows but like think about okay or we're looking at this way you got 120 goals from three players yeah that's not bad eh well all things considered let's look at uh let's look at the let's look at the league for a second okay let's put this into context coyotes i know for a fact have less than 200 goals they do they have 193 what okay they have 193 yeah so what what's that line

plus Mangiapane? It's 100. Right now, let's round it up. It's like 120. 160? 55. Yeah, so the Calgary Flames top four players, 155.

They are almost... They're another Mangiapane short of being equal to Arizona. Holy shit. They're Mitch Marner short or part of Austin Matthews season. It's crazy. Mitch Marner goal suck.

Okay, that's been great. Anyway, sorry. We're talking about the Flames. I know Flames fans are going to kill us for that. I just want to throw out Johnny Goudreau's five-on-five numbers into his Hart Trophy discussion. He leads the entire world on five-on-five points with 70. If the NHL site could load for freaking two seconds, I could tell you.

Wow, are you watching this spinning wheel with me? I am. It's driving me crazy. He's got 75-on-five points. Next up is Austin Matthews with 65. man he's got a five point lead the five on five assist numbers we are spinning wheel of death again what is going on the nhl okay here we go 37 primary five on five assists next up caril capri's off with 25 wow that's wild he he's generating all the goals for that line man chuck fletcher's gonna pay so much money for him this summer like he's gonna make so much money

off of Chuck Fletcher. It's crazy. No, I think he's going to be the bridesmaid to a lot of free agents. I think he's... Chuck Fletcher. Oh, you don't think he's going to be able to get people? I thought you said Johnny Goudreau was going to be the... No, no, no, no, no.

Can I finish with my Johnny Goudreau? Oh, sorry. 111 points on this season. That is seven back of McDavid who leads the world at 118. That's more than Austin Matthews. Like the most silent, dominant season ever. Insane. And then assists... He's 72, which is back of the leader, Jonathan Huberto, who has 85.

Which is insane. That's a crazy number, too. Also wild. I'm looking at goals for and goals against. The differential, Arizona's obviously got the worst one, okay? Yeah. Jesse, don't look at this. Don't have it in front of me.

Okay. Arizona's got the worst one. Their differential is minus 110. Now, I don't know what the ranking is for worst goal differentials all time, but that's got to be up there. We've talked about this before, and it's like a billion. Yeah, okay. It's not even close.

It was the Capitals probably in like 72. I think so. It's the eight win Capitals. I would love to know in the last 15 years what it is. You know what I mean? Because that's a little bit more comparable to today, I think. I feel like we've talked about this before. But maybe we have.

They've got to be in the neighborhood. They have to be. Who is the second worst goal differential? The widest margin between goals for and goals against to the negative? the obvious answer appears to be montreal so i'm gonna say montreal because like they've lost a bunch of games for a stretch and got killed in all of them i'm gonna say the chicago blackhawk jesse uh the chicago blackhawks are 27th with a negative 74 not good but the montreal canadians steve you are right are the only other team over a hundred goal differential 107 and you

know what's crazy is that like when martin martin say louis came in they won a couple of games and everybody's like well we're okay next season next season they are one nine and oh in their last 10 that's tough this team sucks i don't care that you don't you that that you lost the season in the first month of this year and dom ducharme wasn't a great man this team sucks bergevin really left you guys holding the bag man wow wow left them holding the bag holding the bag like holding the bag full of poo and by the way their winning percentage their points percentage is the That is not what I thought that meant. Points percentage is the worst in the league.

Oh, yeah? 319. The tank battle is scorching hot. You know the number one draft pick is going to Seattle. So stop it with this right now. It's going to Seattle. They're in Montreal. It's going to Seattle.

Can you imagine when that happens? They're going to be in Montreal. Montreal could get the first overall pick, and they don't get it. Imagine. I'm battling between. I'm battling between. Okay. Hear me out on this.

All right. hear me out on this scouting staffs have to do a staggering amount of research anyway yes they all have a ranked list anyway yeah what is wrong with doing the draft lottery in person at the draft oh i'm i'm so with you because that would be so sick can you imagine being in montreal and hearing the crowd and the ping pong ball comes up and with the first overall pick the Montreal Canadiens or sorry and the first overall pick goes to the Montreal Canadiens roof blows off of the place and then I don't know how how long do you get man how long do you get you know what I you know what I think I think you don't do the pick right away you allow everyone to

go to concessions for beer give them half an hour for that and then they come back and they get to watch shane wright get picked first overall in person now i believe never gonna it's never gonna happen it would be so sick they'd be mad about it i think though like like teams would be mad about it though i think because um it's a uh like they would say oh we don't have enough time to prepare and that's bullshit yeah i know it's bullshit you gotta give them time to trade the picks as well oh that's like fine you got to give them the month to hey i know we're sitting at the the 10th slot we want to trade our 10th pick or i know i'm sitting at the fifth slot now i can trade the fifth damn it your fifth pick you know also the nhl would never give up the second tv date

that they have for just for the lottery balls you know like in may they're gonna have a lottery show on sportsnet you know and then you get the draft show they would never combine that and give up the advertising dollars for the lottery show never gonna happen i would love the drama of well what about the next day or sorry the the day before so it's a three-day event you can get tickets to the giraffe lottery gms wouldn't go for it oh fuck it'd be cool though it would it would oh man it'd be cool i understand why but man that'd be cool yeah the calgary flames deserve every bit of credit credit that they haven't been given i know flames fans are like we're underreported and you are you're absolutely right this team has been spectacular they've been the team that we were

hoping they were going to be the last two years yeah i feel like you say that and then i say hey the flames are my pick for the stanley cup yeah but it's like it's that's like we're saying it but i feel like there's not a lot of fanfare and i don't think there's a lot of reporting on it unless you're like reading eric francis and and and i mean that like and he's a and he's a calgary reporter yeah yeah like i i feel like nationally i think flames fans have a point when they're like no one's talking about it well and the oilers have been very good and yeah but they've also been very bad so you can you can see they've been more very good than bad the dichotomy of the oilers this year i think as a fan even as a fan of the oilers can give you some pause because they

were amazing and then they were dog shit and then they fired their coach and they were good we've seen amazing we've seen dog shit and we've seen good and right now mike smith's on a heater yeah like he's been unreal he does grave digger that's what they need they need to call him that literally he's just rising up from the ground the undertaker yeah yeah mike's halo he's doing no i'm doing the monster truck grave digger the monster truck isn't that isn't that one from halo what online i don't know man grave digger was the was the truck yeah the one in the rogers center this past weekend have you never been to monster jam no oh it's so great because all the trucks basically just break down and it's kind of a letdown that literally when i went to monster

jam i think i was like 12 and my parents got free tickets and we went and it was at the sky dome and like and like the only truck that was still running after all of it was grave digger yeah and that's the favorite grave he's been gone for 40 years and the guy is like literally they just they're duct taping him in at this point like it's he's old still driving that stupid truck and doing flips like it's just it's it smells like petroleum that's gotta be like top five worst events that's still going that seems like it's never gonna have an end monster truck in a closed arena i mean i'm talking like specifically the rogers center monster truck and this is pre renovations rogers oh yeah when the jay sucked like end of delgado years rogers skydome just

terrible like oh yeah it was bad what's the thing that happens at rico every year and the marlies have to go on a 14 game royal canadian winter fair or is it the no the tattoo or what do they know they like flood the boat show there's two oh the boat show don't fuck with the boat the boat show yeah okay the horse show too the boat show rules and i have i have wakeboarded i have wakeboarded on the rico coliseum water actually yeah because you're the dick who sends them on the road for a month yeah yeah so i when i was doing bt they were like they're like and the fucking water's freezing so like yeah the wetsuit on no it's a bad idea that's what i'm trying to get at and so they they there's like that wire and i like i did it with the microphone melted

ice by the way where you don't yeah what were you where were you where do they have your swim trunks so they said bring your bring your swim shorts and you're and then they put you in a wetsuit and of course the wetsuit's already wet right so you're you're getting into the web suit and you're like i don't know what the fucking point is this is but i you know on camera i prefer not my dad to have my belly hanging out so uh so yeah i did it and it was fun like it was super fun but just it's just you know it's 5 30 and you show up and you're already you have your suit ish thing on you know you can wear jeans but you got your nice stuff on 30 in the morning yeah and then you take that shit off and then it's like and then yeah you gotta and then you gotta

get your boat your boat show stuff ready to go like you get your paperwork whatever and you're talking to the boat show pr people and they're amped up on coffee they're like okay so here's what we got here's what we this year over 40 000 exhibits we got this many things there's sales there's this there's that and you're like okay like i'm ready and then and then they're like all right now take your clothes off let's go and get in the water and and 640 segment and then kevin frankish throws to me and he's like uh there's adam and he's gonna jump in the water why did you do this bt breakfast television yeah yeah yeah so it's just such a bad idea it's a great idea it is fun it's fun it's a hockey rink that they just put a pool in the middle of yeah

well you know what the marley still won the championship that year the boat that's pulling you was it a ski do or no no it's okay it's a cable there's no boat okay oh i thought they threw the cdo on the hockey rink you need way more water than that no no they have just ripping you're just constantly taking a lap yes slam into the boards literally leave the boards in it's literally wakeboard nascar yeah um but but no uh but that's most um most like if you ever watch like those wakeboarding highlight videos or whatever i'm sure you guys don't i'm sure you guys watch plenty of those no they have a suspended cable in like florida and then you just do the cable ride rather than a boat because it's a done cable wakeboard have you it's i've heard it's a

lot of fun it's more fun when you're good at it cables up high so when you're doing jumps you can do crazier shit and whatever so it's the same sort of idea anyway boat show how did we get here easier if you're not above the if you're not under the age of 12 you shouldn't be going to a monster truck rally all right i think that's the question hey guys question for you kid rock played a show this weekend this is trivia okay okay did kid rock play monster jam or did he play paulina gretzky and dustin johnson's wedding which where did kid rock play a show did he play monster or did he play dustin johnson and paulina kid rock playing i'm just asking which one which one did he play i'm sure maybe they're fans of kid rock i don't know i tried to i just

that's the question he's did he yes he did kid rock's a known uh he has racist tendencies and it's a shame that dustin johnson and paulina gretzky would hire him i'm just saying but there's a man there's a man who defends using the confederate flag yes i was gonna by the way it's from michigan yeah i'm a rich family i was gonna make some jokes but i think jesse said the right thing yeah which is you know uh fuck kid rock like kind of a lot yeah he also uh he also got to apparently drop the middle finger a few times it was good so you know i just thought that was sort of funny right like if i said to you last week what do you think is he going to be at a gretzky event or do you think he's going to do monster jam you'd have said monster jam

no monster jam can't afford that oh you're they can't afford to keep the trucks ready i'm kidding that's not fair just i went to a bad monster jam i think it was off the rails i went to disney on ice in oshawa did you yeah disney on ice i will defend that is a cool event is it is it actually i like disney on ice no i'm unless you're unless you're uh under the age of 12 you probably shouldn't be there but if you're under the age of 12 disney was on ice i remember being very what if you have a monster truck suck a disney wife who likes disney yeah did you go is that why you went this was years ago and it was a bunch of parents with children and my wife really yeah just watching you know mickey do like did she have a good time she did okay well that's

what matters why we went there was there was a time in it when we used to party which we don't anymore but when we used to party at steven sl's house i know i knew once we reached the point in the night where her and her friends were singing disney tunes it was time for me to leave i was like that now after this i'm too drunk now i must leave and that's what i did or i would just sneak up to one of your bedrooms and fall asleep you would do one of the two so do that it's uh oh boy how do i handle this how do i handle this what do you mean i'm glad my house has more than one floor fair enough okay um i i your fridge used to be right next to where they would say this sounds horrible i think it would be sort of fun to go to like a kid's concert because kids

don't have any like they don't have any inhibition so they lose their fucking minds if you've ever seen like live wiggles footage the kids are just like just shaking like they're having a seizure like you would literally have to escort them out of the club if they were adults the way they shake and move sir sir sir yeah right sir and so i've always wondered what everly would be like at a wiggle show but because of the pandemic i haven't had the chance to find out and i almost wonder if i've if that's been a favor to me or if that's an opportunity that like if the Wiggles came to town I would for sure take her even though I think she's a little

beyond them I still would want to go but am I am I going like am I signing myself up for a gigantic headache like as a parent would you really want to be at one of those shows like Disney on Ice like the Wiggles well I don't know who else is there Sesame Street live I don't know has to be yeah

has to be my mom used to take me to Sharon Lois and Bram they almost for sure don't do this but I would like to go to a live taping of Elmo's not very late show is that a thing yes it is no way he has a late night talk show that's not very late called the not so late show or something like it's either the not very late show or not so late show really and he has like oh yeah emma's gonna invite on our next guest ellie golding and then it's friggin ellie golding who walks out wow emma wants to know how you started singing

and like he just interviews like one of the most famous have you have you seen the clips of him getting mad at the other person on on sesame street that has a pet rock zoe zoe who's got a pet rock it's like it's not real like a person zoe yeah it's a rock the uh jesse i'm assuming you haven't seen that no okay well the the you're missing out the late show for elbow that's all that's a very cute idea i would go to that i would go to that would they i i would they have like a paw patrol live like you know where all the stuffed animals they just get together at the mall they'd be like oh it's square one today and you're gonna meet paw patrol and just a bunch of guys in mascot costumes would it would everly freak out at something like that would leo freak

out but most of the kids just going that's not paw patrol they do look at them like that's not how i remember that's not the tv they're they're smarter than we think they know are you having a good time i think less of you it's gonna take years to build back trust i remember going to those things as a kid like i met barney once my sister was like a huge barney uh girl when she was little and like we went to the mall and we met barney do you remember kiddio no it was like a kid's band there was a green guy and a blue guy and a red guy i don't remember no no i went to a kiddio show nice fun yeah they had like music videos go look up kiddio it's cool and terrifying oh let's do the press conference

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