The Steve Dangle Podcast - What's Better? | April 1, 2022

Episode Date: April 1, 2022

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Shake & Bake, Auston Matthews Scores 50 Goals for the 1st Time in His Career, You Can Bet on That with Sports Interaction, Leafs and Jets featured More Que...stionable Officiating, Lars Eller runs Jesperi Kotkaniemi, Tuukka Rask joins the Bruins front office, #sdpnFanFridays, and World Cup Fan Reactions. Originally aired: April 1, 2022 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/vDRnRc_M0Jk Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. We've joined The Athletic and you can too! Hit the link to subscribe: https://theathletic.com/sdp Individuals must be 19 years of age or older to open a Sports Interaction account. Terms and Conditions apply. Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Gambling can be addictive, please play responsibly. If you have concerns, visit: https://help.sportsinteraction.com/hc/en-us/articles/216779528-Responsible-Gaming-Self-Limitation-Self-Exclusion to learn more. Visit this episode's sponsors: https://www.manscaped.com/ CODE: DANGLE https://athleticgreens.com/SDP https://betterhelp.com/sdp https://www.edmunds.com/ Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 the steve dangle podcast with your host steve dangle adam wild and jesse blake i'm adam wild and this is jesse blake how you doing steve dangle podcast sorry you usually take over hr when adam's not here not really it was terrified i think we share the chairs worthy it's a give and take yin and yang the give and take chair shake i think and bake chair oh talladega nights am i big and you can be sure i can be shake but then uh but then i kind of screw you know you screw me over in the end you steal my wife oh john c reilly i don't want to steal your wife well you know very understanding about it if you gotta you know it's such a ridiculous it's the cost of doing business now we have to watch it together oh we should we should
Starting point is 00:00:58 get uh we should take a trip to a weed store in oshawa okay and then watch talladega nights on a saturday when there's no hockey in the summer under the lights you should get a backyard screen projector thing in your in your curved backyard your slopey black backyard where you have new patio furniture yes pizza shaped backyard that's what i was looking for uh piece of crap backyard it's the worst but you could throw a projector there there's there's enough length where you could do that you know and then you got new patio furniture and i do have cool neighbors that's very important for a projector yeah you need to have cool neighbors i think you need to invest in a projector you know it's wild i have one what i have one i got it in one of my hey you
Starting point is 00:01:48 have a twitter account here's some free shit boxes what yeah is it like a decent one i don't know we haven't used it oh my god yeah we'll we'll we'll try it the weather's been garbage that's true that's true when did you get it when the weather just started turning to garbage oh okay so like last fall yeah okay this summer under the stars steve dango podcast watches talladega nights nobody else everybody listening you're not invited can't come don't come to my house that's weird stop that now i don't i don't even know what camera to look at this is oh i love kids table episodes they're always off the rails the most important question of the day what's better than beating beliefs nothing can i play it nothing can i play the infamous mark shifley
Starting point is 00:02:35 please play it after what what day when was around the uh the first time the just be early december it was right around uh christmas because people were people were talking about my quote like i just said it ignoring the christmas decorations all over the table right yeah here just here we go play it because i have thoughts hey boys is there anything better than beating the leafs hey anything better this goes for this guy so after actually do you want to listen to this as well yes so wayne simmons i haven't heard this i only read it wayne simmons was asked about this quote and if he had heard it if uh i'll just play it i don't have to explain it he'll go into it right now did you see the video of trifly after
Starting point is 00:03:23 that game in the dressing room since guys is there anything better than beating the leaf Yeah, that's fine. I feel most teams feel that way. So, I don't think that's anything out of the norm. I feel like every team we go up against really wants to beat us, so you know, whatever. They got the win. They're all going to enjoy it, enjoy it the way they want, but you know, tonight will be a different story. Why do you think some teams, or a lot of teams, relish beating the league? We're Toronto and
Starting point is 00:03:54 You know, I feel like, I'm not trying to be arrogant or cocky, but, you know, I feel like Toronto is kind of, you know, universally known as kind of the center of the hockey world. So, you know, I know when I used to play against the Leafs, you know, I'd want to crush them every single time. So I know that feeling, so I have no doubt in my mind that every single player in this league feels that way when they play against us.
Starting point is 00:04:19 well I'm glad I was the one thing missing from what he was saying was the perspective of someone who used to play against the Leafs and I'm so glad he said it because Jesus Wayne you could tell you could tell especially when you were on the flyers he used to make Dion Phaneuf's life a living hell oh yeah every time they played each other so I really enjoyed him saying I'm glad somebody finally said it like yes because every time the Leafs play anyone the all the Toronto guys come in and they're on a heater and they're so intense about that one game and there's Wayne admitting
Starting point is 00:04:51 it saying it's true it's a thing and that's why the Jets are so happy about beating the Leafs because we are the Mecca of the hockey universe so I have some friends who are Jets fans and they're from Winnipeg and they're like by the way like do you understand that your reaction to that clip is exactly
Starting point is 00:05:08 why everyone loves beating the Leafs listen I get it I totally get it but now The shoe was on the other foot, and I get to really, really enjoy this. And it's so funny how a season changes and how a mood changes. The Leafs lose to Montreal five days ago or six days ago? One week tomorrow because it's Saturday night, right?
Starting point is 00:05:34 Okay. And then they play a nasty game against Florida the next night. Win. Beat them. Play a nasty game against the Bruins. Win. Beat them. in a nasty, cannot-lose game against the Winnipeg Jets.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Beat them! And all of a sudden, my mood around this team has completely switched. Like, what was that? Three games in five days against killer opponents. The Florida Panthers are top of the division for a reason. The Bruins are never going to go away. I feel like we're destined to do this forever. and the winnipeg jets basically have to win out they did heading into last night they're screwed
Starting point is 00:06:19 they're pretty screwed but it's possible so the the stars are playing too well for me uh for them to drop off and relinquish that spot and also ahead of them is also vegas you know so like where they beat who they beat and then lost ottawa yeah and then you lose to toronto it's just the math doesn't work out for i think for them and vancouver it's a two horse race for me for between the stars in vegas i think stars got it but it felt really good it felt so good what a great win that's about as satisfying a win as this is about as satisfying a week uh as the least have had in a long time yeah and it it's a the win looked even more impressive considering how they started because the least struggled so much coming out of the gate like that those first two goals were not great
Starting point is 00:07:09 no uh they couldn't you you said in the lfr they couldn't complete passes okay am i alone because i watch uh people don't realize i watch the vast majority of leave games alone by myself in the basement like i'm lucky if my wife sits next to me on her phone right she's usually upstairs watching bridgerton or some shit like i watch them alone and i'm just like i'm sitting there i'm like my my kingdom for a pass they couldn't complete a pass right i don't know why they started so slow maybe it might have been coming off like the boston game two nights ago you know you're a little slow coming out the gate um missing guys missing guys yeah obviously but yeah it was it was a weird start um considering how they've started the last two games where they
Starting point is 00:07:50 seem to be the dominant team right out the gate it seemed like old leafs were back and there's two nothing real quick but then they settled in you know and the jets couldn't it's a weird thing to say considering they got a two nothing lead out of it but it just felt like they couldn't capitalize on the Leafs being shit like they managed to get two goals while also looking like the worst team against a team that was playing poorly does that make sense I don't think the Jets are that great defensively and like at no point did we see them play a tight game and I think that was all very apparent even when the Leafs were down to nothing that's why it looked inevitable that they were going to win that game and come back that's why i bet on it when they
Starting point is 00:08:36 were down to nothing and you get good odds because you get plus odds with the leafs winning backup goalie backup goal even though he's played well you know there was there was always a confidence that the better team was gonna win out that game and they did and the entire game was real chippy we'll get into the reffing problems that there have because uh i think the discrepancy in the power play is something we need to talk about but yeah it never seemed even though they were terrible it never seemed out of reach that they win it i'm i'm mad at myself because usually i i always tell people i don't write down notes for the lfr like if it's good i'll remember it and that is usually true but sometimes i'll come up with something good and forget oh you should write
Starting point is 00:09:12 things down i know that's it's rare though it's rare i usually i usually remember so last night so can i can i call you the jay-z of lfrs because jay-z doesn't write his raps no yeah so i don't write my leaf wraps just no top of the dome you're like wayne and jay-z you know you don't you don't write your apps don't write them down because i was gonna be like you know william nylander needs to uh he's a leader on this team the leafs need him to be a leader on this team so he's got to pay attention to details we know he has this offensive skill but he needs to give more effort he needs to back check he needs to do the little things that help your team win oh i'm sorry those are my notes from mark shifley what shut up dude that's if mark shifley was not
Starting point is 00:10:01 from ontario and he was from finland sweden anywhere else in europe if his name was like i don't know patrick liney yes jesse absolutely absolutely he's shocking he's shocking blake wheeler's not much better holy shit mark you're down oh holy fuck we're gonna mark we're gonna pretend like that goal never happened what goal oh yeah nothing nope they won the game he scored a goal we pretend that never happened he got walked no okay that game started jets up one nothing they got it because they won the first leg yeah of the home and home that's what we'll call it and uh no i'm gonna pretend like that never happened but no he's uh that team is uh their forward group is shocking and it's not a systems thing it would be a systems thing uh if
Starting point is 00:10:53 they were you know skating around here there and everywhere and no he's just he literally stopped skating after the red line right he doesn't care the uh the leafs also seemed a little especially on the first power play but they seem like they're squeezing their sticks a little tight because they're trying to get austin 50 like it seemed like it was the austin 50 thing hanged over the game if that's that's not probably not the right term but it was it was hung hung over the game i don't know everybody was talking about it and it was a thing and it was a narrative and the leaf seemed to also get it bob mckenzie just right away as soon as the intermission panel started he's like why are they trying to get him a goal so bad and like in my head i'm like yeah it's like
Starting point is 00:11:34 what matthews goes like i don't know two goals without a game sometimes or maybe two games without a goal yeah is that like if they're just playing regular hockey he'll score like it was fine they'll be fine they were trying so hard in that first power play and then you saw in the second power play where they took advantage of the jets uh thinking that matthews was gonna get all of these shots and willie scored the second he did that i was like that made sense that was smart that was good that you did that right yeah so the austin 50 thing what about the third fourth leaf to ever score 50 oh sorry before we get to austin yeah yeah did adam seriously tweet something and promote it in winnipeg what a bunch of people were messaging
Starting point is 00:12:21 me that adam tweeted something about the winnipeg jets hold on like making fun of jets fans or whatever and he paid to have the tweet promoted in winnipeg which is what justin fisher did a few years ago if i'm on his timeline i don't think i can't see his promoted tweets like that's not a thing no amongst your your tweets on your profile i don't i don't know i'll try to find it i'll try to find it sorry austin 50 austin 50 all right that's so it i i wish he was here we could ask him you know he's he's sleeping upstairs i wish we could i wish we could find out that's We're in his house. Right, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:03 So, Austin Matthews, 62 games to become the fourth Leaf to join the 50-goal club in franchise history. It's crazy that Leafs have only had four players in the 50-goal club when they've been around for more than 100 years. It's hard to do. It is. A couple of more interesting things about Austin's 50. He was the fastest 50-goal season in 26 years.
Starting point is 00:13:27 So, back in 95, 96 was the last time. That's League 1. That's league-wide. It was the last time somebody else had 50 and 62, and in that season, four guys did it, actually. Lemieux, Jager, McGinley, and Peter Bondra. They all did 50 and 62, but that was the last time. Peter Bondra was so underrated.
Starting point is 00:13:47 That was a great player, man. He tore the late 90s up in an era where no one scored. Rick Vive, when he produced his 50-goal season, he did it at 0.7 goals per game but the average goal per game goals per game for an nhl team was 8.02 in a game so like both teams combined for eight goals a game okay right now teams are combining for 6.22 goals per game and matthews is at a scoring pace of 0.81 goals per game i'm sorry that sounds like an mvp to me right not matthews's pace is 0.1 goals better than rick vive and league-wide goals in a game are down about almost two goals per game from where rick did it i'm not
Starting point is 00:14:37 shocked to hear four people hit 50 and 95 96 because that was basically the last hurrah before the dead puck era started to begin and then oh man when they sunk they sunk And then the 0-4-0-5 season when they came back, goals were up again. No, the 0-4-0-5 season was low on offense because there were no games. 0-5-0-6. 0-5-0-6, yeah, yeah. And then for this last stat, the adjusted for era, Matthews' season is one of the 25 best scoring seasons
Starting point is 00:15:11 in the league's modern history. Rick Vive's season would have been tied for 510th in Matthews' top 25. those numbers were compiled for uh by jonah siegel and james martle great job again i uh it's an unbelievable feat what do you accomplish oh it's so good yeah oh empty net though yeah he said half the game i never envisioned it happening in an empty net you know that that's how we got 40 as a rookie though there you go you know like it's well now all eyes are on 60 and i'm sort of glad it happened the way it did because like man it really did
Starting point is 00:15:47 for for a a team that just won a game 7-3 in a heated affair it felt like they might have played better had he not been a 49 i'm glad it's over because they were why were they playing just to get him a goal just play your regular hockey and he scores they wanted to get it out of the way but i think they sort of i'm glad that game happened i'm glad all those things happened at once we're short guys we're trying to hit a milestone it's a heated rematch um there's going to be chippiness uh i'm glad all of that happened it's the perfect playoff warm-up you're going to deal with all of these things and the thing that the least crumbled with the most last year was pressure right so they struggled at first they figured it out they conquered and now on the
Starting point is 00:16:43 road to 60 like they have a they have a lot of games left surprisingly and but not too many soft targets flyers fans i'm sorry that looks like a soft target to me and matthews has to light them up two and five canadians will hear the words you have cancer that's why every step and dollar raised matters on september 19th join thousands in toronto for the princess margaret cancer Foundation Walk. Challenge yourself, friends, and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research. Together, we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer. Register today at pmcfwalk.ca. And what better way than with a delicious Pratt Organic Coffee, starting at just $1 all day, every day, now until December 31st.
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Starting point is 00:18:39 power play opportunities for the leafs but as you said in your lfr it should have been like 400 to 100 yeah because because the refs don't call all the penalties because they can't do that because refereeing is apparently an art well like why not it's it's a thing why not you can't call all the penalties because you can't spend the entire game on a power play it's like this is how refs think like imagine if like we raise kids like the way that the nhl calls penalties like imagine if i started breaking shit around the house and my parents got me in trouble for six of the 10 things i broke no most people could expect to get in trouble for all 10 because that's how life works that's a oh yeah break six out of the 10 printers in your office
Starting point is 00:19:32 and see how your boss reacts to that um the there was a stat going around about the the myth of no penalties in the playoffs and it is it is untrue that there are no penalties in the playoffs i saw a stat that there are actually more okay the reason there are more though is because people lose their minds and become borderline criminals when the stanley cup playoffs begin and if last night was a playoff style game nine penalties is probably or nine power plays i should say it's probably more than you can expect but michael bunting was cross-checked in the head it's noon the next day haven't seen anything on that no no that doesn't matter nobody it is there was other penalties to call so that one wasn't a penalty it was fine and like i'm not stupid
Starting point is 00:20:24 enough to think that cross-check to the head and the one matthews had on dalene are the exact same But it's got to be something, surely. The trip on Engvall, all right, it's a missed trip. It's a missed trip, but the refs are looking at it. It's a missed trip that they're looking at in the third period. And like, oh, no, but that would take the Jets out of the game. Yeah. Don't trip.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Like, what the? Don't. It shouldn't be hard. Justin Hall getting hit in the head. He was eligible to be hit. Just because you're on your knees doesn't mean you're not eligible to be hit. He's not eligible to be hit in the head. and Kerfoot missing from practice today I was looking at my phone for updates on that was at
Starting point is 00:21:06 the same time need by Pierre-Luc Dubois who's so freaking greasy and uh elbowed in the face and again in the third at a key point in the game and then then Dubois suckers Engvall into a uh into coincidental roughing minors even though Engvall didn't do anything and then it's four on four which team has the advantage when it's four on four probably the Leafs yeah but specifically in terms of how a game is structured the team trying to score the Leafs are trying to park the team that's down yeah yeah the Leafs are trying to park the bus the Jets are trying to crawl back in the game that's how it's always worked score effects score effects it's how it's always work so it's it's like uh I remember a few years ago in the playoffs Brad Marchand took
Starting point is 00:22:01 himself out of the game to take Morgan Riley off the ice when they were trying to tie game three in 2018 and yeah Brad Marchand has to sacrifice himself but he takes off one of the Leafs best defender no the best defender on the entire team they didn't have Muzzin I'm trying to think of who was even on the team at the time 20 it's like Ron Hainsey and Roman Polak out there closing out the like literally how did that team make the playoff um so all that to say if more penalties would have given the leafs an unfair advantage i would have i would say it's a perfectly fair advantage they were better they were better last night the winnipeg jets couldn't hang at all they weren't in that as soon as the leafs tied it three three that game was over they weren't in it for a second
Starting point is 00:22:51 and they should have been in it for even less i think it's funny that on the same day that all this happened the nhl canceled an ama on reddit with wes mccauley did we ever get a reason why like no i've been like he couldn't do it yeah he just got busy but i think they i'm gonna i'm gonna conspiracy theory this i think they realized once the reaction once the announcement that this was happening went out there that they realized it was a bad idea because they were only going to receive troll comments they were only going to receive hate because the referees have become such a part of the hot uh national hockey league because of how they ref these games so they've become this kind of this third team within the game that dictates a narrative of how the game
Starting point is 00:23:39 is going to go you know they they set out okay tonight we're going to call these types of penalties or we're not going to call these types of penalties and if there's a whole bunch of infractions we're going to call a lot of them but not all of them and i i guess this is just how we have to accept that hockey is played now like i think the players understand it the players work their relationships with the refs no we have to hold them accountable jesse you taught me that the players understand it the coaches they get it but they get mad about it and as fans i don't think we should accept it but right now it's not gonna change you know like going into the playoffs we gotta when there's a when there's actually 10 penalties when there's 10 infractions all 10
Starting point is 00:24:21 should be called yeah but our expectation is that the players know that all 10 won't be called and i hope the leafs play the type of hockey where they commit 15 infractions this their first round series and they get called for three of them i hope i hope they know that everything that we know and how the refs are going to call the game. And they go play dirty hockey. That's what I want to see out of these Leafs. Just get in the muck. Get in the muck, man.
Starting point is 00:24:46 The whistles for the cross checks are going to go away. Slash is still going to be there. Hook is still going to be there. Tripping is still going to be there. Interference. Tripping sometimes. Tripping depending on the moment in the game. They didn't call the trip on Engvall
Starting point is 00:25:00 because the Leafs just came off the power play like three minutes ago. And they're like, oh, we can't have another power play for the Leafs. And for any Jets fan or any other fan who's like but the lead there were missed calls against the league oh yeah great we're talking about those two yeah we are like genuinely i am like i am talking about those two i listen they had an opportunity in 2005 2006 to establish a new precedent with two new superstars two new
Starting point is 00:25:27 generational talents at the helm of the league and they stuck to their guns for it wasn't even a full season it was like three months before reverting back to the old shit go back there was a game Sidney Crosby's rookie year Penguins Flyers Penguins were awful Flyers were good and the Penguins won Crosby's face as as a grown-up today looks different because of that game Darian Hatcher smashed teeth out of his face with a cross check to the mouth and not only did he not get a I don't think he got a suspension I don't think he got a fine I don't think he got a minor penalty and people looked at that as all right because Crosby I think got the overtime winner and oh way to go way to go to the kid you know he powered through it and now he can hang in
Starting point is 00:26:23 this league what why why did he have to do that why did that have to be hockey why does it got to be this gauntlet like like the nhl is not hard enough as it is when in what era like i'm not even asking for wild rule changes in what era has cross-checking someone to the teeth ever been allowed well i don't know if you go back far enough everything's kind of allowed in hockey that's how we've gotten to this point like you know the Maurice Richard riot
Starting point is 00:26:58 you don't know so he was I believe he was suspended I want to say for a playoff game okay and fans got very upset and they like protested he like broke his stick over someone's head like come on there's got to be some
Starting point is 00:27:15 accountability oh let them play and this is like you know jeff o'neill who i like on the panel last night he talked about um the taylor hall ilia labushkin slap punch bop whatever you want to call it and he said back when i played and i'm i'm not listening anymore i'm not listening anymore you disqualify your opinion when you say that you did it jeff it's not when you played it's now it's 2022 yeah it was from behind and he caught him flushing the jaw like i know back when you played i know i watched it was crazy the
Starting point is 00:27:51 leafs were terrible and the leafs were terrible no they only missed by one point they only missed by one point how dare you they needed a goalie that was the that was the one where they missed on the last day of the season right see they did that two days uh two years in a row holy crap dude it was and it was the what was it the Islanders they miss both the two seasons that preceded my first LFR season
Starting point is 00:28:17 there was Matt Sundin had a six point game where they beat the Panthers 6-5 in order to stay alive and they had a great game against the Habs and Martin St. Louis buried them with an OT winner against someone not the Leafs
Starting point is 00:28:33 it was two years in a row they lost by one point in a game they weren't in so st louis won the radio broadcaster for tampa had that great call see you later maple leafs and then the next year or i think 0506 was the year jso banga shit hot and then the next year they missed by one point because the devils started scott cleminson against the new york islanders instead of martin broder and the islanders and wade dublowitz won in the shootout eliminating the leaf unbelievable i remember that shootout like very clearly i remember i've told the story a thousand times i'll tell it again i remember it very clearly because this is back in
Starting point is 00:29:15 the day when hockey games would be on like city tv like which they still are sometimes sometimes yeah it was but it was like on a news channel and i think it was an afternoon game and i was i was so sad my parents are like why are you sad i'm like well because they like they didn't know why i wanted to watch this devil's flyer or devil's islanders game and i'm like well it determines the leafs making the playoffs and and the devil's lost so leafs missed the playoffs and then they go straight into the news broadcast congratulations toronto the least are heading to the playoffs no it was the lead story and my parents went oh look no and they're like you're wrong and i'm like i'm not no i'm not the news is wrong the news is wrong with their lead story currently oh god and
Starting point is 00:30:02 i've never been able to find the footage anywhere but it's a thousand percent wrong now that we put it out there maybe somebody can find it track it down i think like we're talking 2007 the only way to find it would be to like work in the archives okay maybe our podcast reaches a lot of people we need to find it we are based in toronto but do you think someone who works at that news station is gonna be like here's when we were wrong yeah i think they might 15 years ago slip steve dangle a little video of that i'd like i just i just want to see it if we can find that that'd be cool and a little old steve dangle can be correct yeah anyway it's it's it's all that to say it's not an insult against jeff o'neill or any other former player but it it isn't when you played it isn't
Starting point is 00:30:50 when you played like i like uh mike johnson is able to do this ray ferraro is able to do this where they think back to their playing days but they're able to go well it's not then is it yeah you know it's it's different now and it's so weird to say you are not allowed to slap a player in the in the face from behind and bob mckenzie i i thought his take was hilarious too where he was like oh i thought it was a minor penalty but then he had a hearing and he only got a fine and it's like well no you gotta pick right and i kind of like that take where it's like pick a lane mackenzie's so good when he just pops in and does and does those panels and then you're like oh bob i wish you were still here his righteous indignation yeah he's like oh i'm better than
Starting point is 00:31:35 this we need more bob i'm better so if if you got what you wanted in in steve dangle nhl world where yes where the referees called all of the infractions that happened on the ice so if a team like like the jets who are not as skilled that night as the leafs and are committing a bunch of infractions because they have to do that to stay in the game if the refs called all of those penalties do you think the players would pull back and commit less infractions and we'd have a cleaner hockey game or would we see a situation where we're just on a bunch of power plays it would listen it would start that way it would start that way and i still vividly remember like oh fuck there were some players who were sort of on the back nine of their career and the second the
Starting point is 00:32:29 2005 preseason started they were cooked they were cooked uh brian mccabe was really interesting because like he was cooked defensively but the rules actually helped him offensively aki berg i remember was it berg or belak or maybe it was both of them because they were on a pair together briefly i remember him getting a penalty in front of the net and literally just throwing his hands up like i don't get these new rules i don't understand them and yeah there was going to be pain there was going to be a learning curve but now because they didn't stick to it we have to do it again or no we don't so i it's really it's up to the nhl in my perfect world you do go through those growing pains for the betterment of the sport you but you can't start
Starting point is 00:33:20 now right on april fool's day like you can't start at the beginning of april you got to start preseason next year and you got to put out memos you got to let the chl know let the ahl know the echl know this is how we're calling games now and the way you call them in october needs to be uh reflected in how you call them in the spring i just don't think they're gonna do does it make for a worse product a worse tv sport if uh there's if guys are playing cleaner like you know is is do is there so much appeal in hockey about the intensity of the game and uh the aggressiveness of the players do do you see some pushback like okay we start off that season say it's coming out of the next uh the next lockout the next strike that's gonna happen
Starting point is 00:34:11 in 2026 so we come out we're in 2026 they say we're gonna change the rules we're recalling everything every little infraction is an infraction we're calling it there's no discretion from the refs on narrating the game now and people start looking at we're a month in and they're like you know what this isn't as fun okay do they do they concede and go back jesse yeah all right adam's not here this is when you and i briefly talk about mixed martial arts okay this seems to happen on a lot of kids table episodes um love some good ufc talk wouldn't ufc be better if you were allowed to kick your opponent in the balls no i no so we agree there are some things you can't do yes you can't scratch can't pull hair can't hit in the balls you can't bite um
Starting point is 00:34:59 there are certain elbows you're not allowed to do and those are maybe a little bit silly um there is a line there's a line in everything so i don't i i want hitting still i still want hitting um Simmons gave a big hit and I went yeah and then someone hit him and I went oh like the part of what made the Bruins game so good is Kyle Clifford gave and Kyle Clifford took like from Pasternak and Charlie McAvoy was out there in the last few days like over podcasts and LFRs did I complain about Charlie McAvoy once no no those hits were fine they're totally fine but you complained about uh jt getting cross-checked in the head because you can't do that you can't do that but the mcavoy hit it's clean it what the law like i i feel like uh like i'm on tiktok here
Starting point is 00:35:53 like again it's you know don't don't you want this in the sport and that in the sport yes yes what the you're not allowed to do these things like i feel like i'm talking to a child not you like every time we have these conversations um i feel like i feel like the side that wants hockey to be more like the way it was and i understand it like we're talking about you know friends of the show right i feel like they often in these situations put words in my mouth and words in the mouths of people who want to uh penalize things more and take things out of the game more oh so you don't like this when did i say i don't like this so wait so okay let me put words in your mouth you endorse elbows to the head and they're like no i that's not what i'm saying
Starting point is 00:36:48 will you endorse slaps to the face from behind cross checks to the arm cross checks to the neck cross checks to the teeth um you know kneeing a guy like i'm not sitting here and you know jason spetzler should be able to knee neil pionk in the face right you know what i mean we don't defend moments like that no i was like i saw that i was like jason what the fuck you deserve your six games yeah like before i got it got yeah that's another one like they they when was last time the nhl went it went to an appeal and okay your six game suspension is now 10 yeah they gotta do it once just to put the fear of god and all these players you know what i mean yeah you don't need a rider appealed a two game suspension i'm pretty sure and i think it was
Starting point is 00:37:39 upheld yeah yeah it's a two game suspension take your two games take your two games what the dude you're not even gonna lose conditioning you wanted i guess he wanted to check you know two game checks still so that's money nino he wants it it's still money you shouldn't have you shouldn't listen i worry about the growing pains because i know how impatient hockey fans hockey fans are how impatient the media in particular is uh with something like that and when the wholesale wholesale change of national hockey league refereeing comes like because i think the reckoning is going to come with the amount of energy that's been spent on it this year and we're going to get into Lars Eller and Jesper Kotkaniemi in a second here but with the
Starting point is 00:38:24 amount of energy energy that's been spent on refereeing this season I think a change got to come even if it's next CBA negotiations uh five years or four years from now you know and I just worry about the growing pains of people not enjoying the product that first month of the season when they try and make the change and hopefully we can all just push through it I worry about people's abilities to push through it's like any chore that you leave too long you know what i mean like it would have been better if you did it before the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago the second best time is now yeah um dude i don't like doing laundry but you know what happens when i leave it for a week it gets worse i don't want to lose fans
Starting point is 00:39:04 i don't want i don't want i don't want the older generation to be like ah i missed my game you know i don't want to lose those guys they're still they're still important to the hockey community they're already they're already they already say that jesse that's true they already say that like that the nhl like what what if what if it's okay that they make some sacrifices on account of their like generally last in most markets should i not care should i just be like okay just make the changes and if we lose people who hate the new product whatever at least we're better in the end for i guess that's that's where we should look at how we should look at it you know we make all these changes and in the end we're better for it because the game is called on a more fair
Starting point is 00:39:49 basis i just feel like i'm not asking for the sun and the moon here i feel like you are yeah well i i'm asking for it too you know i'm asking i feel like what we're asking for is like so far gone from where hockey wants to be i think i think the referees the the players they understand the narrative stance of the game where the refs uh dictate how it's gonna go and what they're gonna call and how infractions that aren't infractions don't get called and all that all those things i think for us asking them to change that is a whole big ass it's a lot what if it's incremental like okay let's take a look at the four things that uh i highlighted as non-calls okay paul sassany hits justin hall in the head while he's down
Starting point is 00:40:38 i mean you'd like to take hits to the head this is a problem i'm having trouble selecting them because they're all not allowed pierre engvall you can chalk up as a missed call those are going to happen okay fine yes he was looking straight at it but i don't know what's the rule on hits the head if a guy's on his knee you're not allowed to hit them in the head but if you're never allowed to hit a guy if he's going at a player and the player falls to his knees and the body hits you and you're the person's head hits your elbow whatever right so there there's judgment there yeah did he have time to change course uh was it intentional was the player injured i just don't want people to pick on you for that one in particular when there's like three other egregious
Starting point is 00:41:17 ones you know like i am not i'm not dumb enough to look at what stassny did to hall last night and what spezza did to pionk and be like these are the same right they're not um but like can we mutually agree like what dubois did to kerfoot probably shouldn't be allowed yeah okay can we even do Heinola cross-checking bunting in the head well let's start with Dubois because it's a combination knee elbow turned himself into Gumby to hit Kerfoot to get a piece of him because Kerfoot was gonna freaking pants him he was gonna blow right by him I'm that's the one I want to get rid of first Heinola it's a cross-check they already said they're going to crack down on that lol lol it i think hits bunting in the upper back and rides up
Starting point is 00:42:13 he needs to have control of his stick but if we're going to take them one at a time what's wrong with taking out what dubois did right targeted blows predatory blows can we start there predatory blows to the knee and face oh well he barely connected well he connected Or how about this? What if he missed and but tried? Shouldn't be. Well, if you miss, then it's okay.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Oh, that's perfectly fine. That's the thing with these hits. If you don't connect, it's fine. Who cares about your intent? If I go into a store with a knife and I say give me all your money, and then I go, ah, never mind, and I walk out, I'm still probably going to jail for something.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I just don't know exactly what. You didn't rob a store. I did not rob a store, your honor i walked out of there yeah but you also went into a store with a knife i think an even easier place to start might be with the tripping calls because it seems like even on the matthews one when it was a do you remember when he's coming on they scored the uh uh the or the three on three ot goal where matthews got hooked yeah yeah like even that like that wasn't called uh regular tripping calls that refs look at like i'm two feet away from you right now and refs will see a tripping call and they'll be like okay we can't call that you know even starting
Starting point is 00:43:34 there where we have these egregious fouls they call those you know that's a good that's a good starting point yeah i'm not again i just don't i'm not uh dude i love i love a feisty hockey game i do i do and are some players going to get a little more timid yeah probably the sport adapts it always adapts right i think we are we're asking for a lot here so there's me asking for a little please stop elbowing players in the head please also stop uh hitting guys when there is four seconds left in the game and you are down by five goals and you knock a guy out for two to three weeks so i have not seen this this is larzeller last night on yasperi kakanemi washington capitals versus the Carolina Hurricanes.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Maybe a playoff preview. Intense battle. 6-1 game. Lars Eller hits Jesper Kotkaniemi. I'm going to show Steve the video for the first time. Yeah, because we can't play it, unfortunately. In his life, he is going to watch this hit. And you will not be able to see it
Starting point is 00:44:41 because this is NHL footage and we cannot show it on YouTube. So there's four seconds left here. Four seconds left. Jeez, even the thumbnail's bad. This is what happens. This is the hit. Jesper Kotkaniemi is now out for two to three weeks.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Probably going to be back for the playoffs, but he's become a very important part of their fourth line. He's been playing fourth line center for the Hurricanes. Thankfully, they went out and did the Max Domi deal. So they have Domi to fill in in Jesper's spot. But it's so unnecessary. And I don't know if discipline comes from this because it's not a dirty hit.
Starting point is 00:45:15 I was going to say, he doesn't get them in the head. It's 100% clean. this is a clean hockey hit but the timing of when it happens in the game i got issue with that i think you have issue with that okay the carolina hurricanes should 100 have an issue with that should the nhl the nhl lars eller's defense is solid like he's like oh i i'm playing the game of hockey there you gotta play till zero seconds left on the clock i did nothing wrong yeah i made a clean hit during play to he had the puck to continue the discussion of you know oh steve do you want to take everything out of the game i'm sorry that's perfectly fine i understand why
Starting point is 00:46:00 eller's a little chicken shit for doing it it is within the rules though like is he a great guy for laying that hit right no i kind of think a little bit less of lars eller after seeing that but I was doing his job. I would like some way for context to be taken into account here. Oh man. There's time left in an NHL game. Cockney Emmy's eligible to be hit. The hits clean.
Starting point is 00:46:31 It's a five goal game with less than 10 seconds left. What are you doing? What are you doing? Getting a pound of flesh. Why? Cause you're losing. That's so unnecessary. Oh,
Starting point is 00:46:45 it's no it's jorge masvidal jesse he was super necessary explain so okay so jorge masvidal in an mma fight against ben askren who you might remember as the guy who got knocked up by logan or sorry jake paul in 30 seconds god why did that fight happen anyway like you see his fight against tyron woodley and you're like okay this is actually sort of an interesting fight all right neat The Ben Askren fight was so fucking unnecessary. Anyway, Askren fights Jorge Masvidal. Masvidal knocks him out with a knee in two seconds. Masvidal, against the clearly knocked out Ben Askren, punches him anyway.
Starting point is 00:47:30 The rules... You fight till the referee steps in. You fight till the referee steps in. Herb Dean gets in the middle and pulls you apart. Yes. You're okay with this? I'm not. Well, so I was about to say, yeah, but I'm kind of not okay with hitting clearly starched opponents.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Jesse, it's not that I'm okay with it. It's that, okay, Lars Eller's in the back of our cop car right now. What's he going to jail for? Being a chicken shit. That's not a crime. I think you can bend the law enough to charge him with something. You're a crooked cop. oh my god he's done nothing wrong officer he's an asshole oh he's definitely an asshole okay
Starting point is 00:48:23 steve yes as somebody who's been a proponent of an asshole tax you've been trying as you've been running on this on this platform your campaign for years now one legal punch one legal punch and will smith uses one illegal punch he was lucky to not be would vote for you in an election yeah absolutely he would be like all right i'm cashing in my punch retroactively okay i don't i i don't want to go go this route oh well let's i already talked about robin a convenience store what do you got i don't want to look at the schedule and say next time the caps play the hurricanes you better watch out so you don't like the feistiness then I'm putting words in your mouth
Starting point is 00:49:09 Why are you trying to ruin hockey Next time Lars Eller is on the ice Versus the Hurricanes Somebody's going to get their face caved in Somebody's going to get an elbow to the head Somebody's going to get a huge hit Somebody's going to push him around Yeah but you're not allowed to elbow people in the head
Starting point is 00:49:24 Somebody might do it If you want to get back at Lars Eller Or you want to get back at the Capitals Pop him with a perfectly legal hit It's going to be dangerous yeah but it's on the carolina hurricanes to not literally not break the rules you know what i mean they what if they don't care about breaking the rules like okay let's go back let's go back to the first leafs jets game that got out of hand i was mad at brad meyer for
Starting point is 00:49:55 not uh for letting that game get out of hand and it got out of hand with actually it got out of hand with a dirty knee i think it was pionk and i don't remember if he was fined or suspended he got something for it the capitals and hurricanes do not play again this entire regular season not till the first round it's starting to look like it um it'll probably be panthers uh maybe actually it could be right could be anyway so i i was mad at brad meyer um for letting the game get out of hand but we understand where the jason spezza hit came from but it didn't make it legal it didn't make it allowed you know what i mean so if the hurricanes were to do something dirty in the next meeting between the hurricanes and the capitals we know where it came from it's still not allowed
Starting point is 00:50:53 if you're gonna if you're gonna pop a guy you got to do it legally like larzeller did chicken shit as it was it's chicken shit we can agree it's chicken shit yeah i'm a thousand percent on board with you we need to there's there's a rule book we need to sentence him to something larzeller's in court right now and ladies and gentlemen of the jury i cannot find a crime to assign to larzeller you know you can get you can get fined or or or like get community service for like disturbing the peace something like yeah but we all know that's a bullshit charge exactly so you want to give him a bullshit charge i want to give him a fine for what i would find lars eller if i if i'm if i'm the department of player safety i find him for what it there's some
Starting point is 00:51:43 rule where if you can call it like too aggressive in nature or you know i absolutely not i want i I want something in the rule book where I can say I can give him a misconduct. Unnecessary roughness. Too aggressive in nature is how I rephrase unnecessary roughness. I prefer it. I want to give him a retroactive unnecessary roughness fine of $3,500. The maximum five is $5,000. I'm not even going that far.
Starting point is 00:52:12 $3,500. I want to give him a $3,500 fine for unnecessary roughness. I'm not on board. five five goal game oh it's four seconds left is unnecessary roughness that is literally unnecessary roughness by definition of the word do you hear me can i throw this out there rod brindamore if we're going to talk about back in the day rod brindamore knows the potential for the final moments of that game to be shit what's cockney emmy doing up on the ice this fourth line he literally did the right thing he put his fourth line out there it's the final
Starting point is 00:52:51 minute of a five goal game literally throw out three random players don't throw out your fourth line the Leafs fourth line was like all six three and up last night it's Jason Spezza Wayne Simmons Kyle Clifford Clifford uh had a wonderful game where did this come from it's uh sometimes like i don't know it was his vibe yeah it's it's like the the leafs and clifford aren't the greatest fit but there was sort of a just a something in the air where like him and wayne simmons were like like a pig and shit they were just like this is awesome so you're blaming uh brinda more for putting cocky yummy on the ice even though that's his fourth line well i'm not i'm not i'm not blaming anybody i'm blaming heller i i'm blaming heller for being an asshole yeah it's not a crime
Starting point is 00:53:42 tom wilson you should get fine does a lot of stuff that is a crime you should get fined for being an asshole in the nhl i should no like oh there should be a fine for being is tom wilson maybe i should tom wilson does a lot of shit that's not allowed but he also does a lot of shit that is allowed where people are like suspend him and it's like for what what crime did he commit well he's an ex-con so it's we can't put him in jail for being an ex-con he's he has to have committed a crime larzella committed no crime free eller two and five canadians will hear the words you have cancer that's why every step and dollar raised matters on september 19th join thousands in toronto for the princess margaret cancer foundation walk challenge yourself friends
Starting point is 00:54:31 and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research together we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer register today at pmcfwalk.ca you gotta try breakfast And what better way than with a delicious Pratt Organic Coffee, starting with just $1 all day, every day, now until December 31st. At participating A&W locations in Ontario. Tuka Rask is going to remain with the Bruins organization in a corporate role. He's considering a future in coaching. He was back at TD Garden to drop the ceremonial first puck for Thursday's game against the Devils.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Good for him. And it was announced that he will serve as a corporate ambassador for the Bruins. Rask retired February 9th, if you remember, after his 15-year NHL career. I didn't realize it, please. 15 years. That's so long. 2005, Leafs first rounder. He said, I'll be hanging out with sponsors, golfing, and shaking hands in suites.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Oh, he's a schmoozer. I was intrigued about the business side of things. I don't know what the future holds. Maybe I'll get into coaching. Maybe not. But for now, I'll be hanging out with the sponsor. I got to commend Tuggeras for his attempted comeback. He had a torn labrum this past offseason.
Starting point is 00:56:10 That's what he was rehabbing from. tried to make it all the way back he did make it all the way back played a couple nhl games if you remember back in uh january where he played uh anaheim and then he was stretching and he uh tweaked his groin and hip and now he's done forever so uh commend tuka rask adam wanted to talk about if he gets his jersey in the rafters i don't know well i don't know about that stuff but uh great career for duke raskin it's awesome to see him drop the puck there in boston so i was gonna pull up like his numbers and his resume and everything no no all that's irrelevant you gotta go with who the bruins have done that for oh right what's the list well the list unless i've missed
Starting point is 00:57:00 did let me let me check one more time so this list is from nbcsports.com i don't know how old it is because i feel like didn't they just retire willio reese number yeah yeah they held like a ceremony and stuff yeah because he's not on this list it was like his and he wasn't there because it was during covid he had to be there virtual and that stuff right yeah so they the boston bruins it would be an acknowledgement of tucker ass being the greatest goalie in boston bruins history because he's they have never retired a goalies number oh rick like here i'm just gonna read off the players who have their photos in color okay because bobby orr is in there ditz clapper phil esposito no those are all guys with black and white photos cam neely
Starting point is 00:57:48 uh who else we got terry o'reilly ray bork they don't have a goalie it just it doesn't it doesn't feel right it doesn't feel right it's weird it's it's so weird that i would rather i would sooner give to caress the hall of fame than give him a retired number with the bruins what is that weird you don't it sounds weird when i say it you don't think he did he's done enough is it is i guess it'd be the situation where you honor his jersey like least love doing the uh we put the jersey up but we don't retire the number boo i'm so glad they stopped doing that boo you don't think he uh his career was enough to get the number retired see it's up to the team it's up to the team right is pecorine a hall of fame goalie
Starting point is 00:58:50 probably like i don't know like but look at the face you're making yeah i'm unsure that means no like look at the face you make but is he the greatest goalie in nashville predators history yes there's he should have no no retired he should 100 have his number retired by the predators who's better pecorine or tuka rask it's well that's not the question it's pecorine's place in predators history versus rask's place in bruins history he never won a cup as a starter yeah he only made it to the cup final in 19 right and you can look at the least retired numbers and wow none of them didn't win cups and a few of them were i did not realize doug gilmore was only a leaf for like five minutes like five seasons i think it was yeah that's why all
Starting point is 00:59:43 these leafs records that matthew's gonna break it's like he's gonna do it so quickly because he doesn't have much competition sunday's highest uh goal season was 41 with quebec i'm pretty sure no go look it up no that's his leaf season his most productive nordique season or sorry his most productive goal and and uh point season i'm pretty sure we're with the nordiques just because of the era no he did 41 with the leafs oh but he has a 47 with quebec that's what you mean he is yeah yeah 92 93 sunday and 47 goals with the nordiques in 80 games could he have hit 50 his best leaf season he did it twice actually in 96 97 he hit 41 and then in 0102 he hit 41 so yeah and matthews is 50 in his sleep he should have he should have 350 goal season
Starting point is 01:00:36 this should literally be his third it's crazy i love how we made this about matthews um anyway Tuca, I don't know. I guess you can't retire the number if he didn't win a cup. It just seems like that's the standard they set. Although Cam Neely never won a cup with them, and neither did Ray Bork. Oh, boy. I want to hear from Bruins fans,
Starting point is 01:00:57 because I feel like they're the ones who can make this decision. It's a very team-specific honor. I don't know. Also, the Bruins fans for many years in between those cup runs hated to correct shit on the guy yeah like that was their enemy number one like they're not retiring tim thomas's number no he shouldn't get anything he should be honored for anything i agree but like wanna con smite you know yeah no anyway let's do the press conference the steve dangle press conference
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Starting point is 01:04:02 lebron james tweeted i'm out for the season i'll see y'all in the fall and i was like wow oh i'm a dumbass did he tweet that yeah he did from his own twitter account i'm out for the season officially see y'all in the fall there's no way no because he has so that's a bad april fools joke because he has a sprained ankle so like I could believe that I mean he could be telling the truth there have been a bunch of things today where people are like
Starting point is 01:04:32 is this true did you see the Pierre Maguire one like Pierre Dorian stepping down and now Pierre Maguire is the GM no somebody tweeted that yeah and it was from like someone who's verified I think if you're verified you're not allowed to participate in April Fool's I don't know if this
Starting point is 01:04:48 is like the correct take or a bad take but I don't like April Fool's no me neither okay i think a majority of people don't like it fart yeah it's uh it's so it's kind of cheesy and lame like i think so too you fooled me good oh good with your fake thing that could have been possible i've i feel like regular april fools is okay social media april fool sucks yeah yeah i think that's it i think social media is where like i'm down on it but um this lebron thing that might not be an april fool's joke because he's been out for the last like week and a half with a sprained ankle see but you're supposed to get an april fool's jokes before noon
Starting point is 01:05:29 it's past noon but he's in la so it's not right i think it might be an april fool's joke i don't think it is oh shit i really don't think it is i think lebron's done that's how he announced it yeah also they've been falling they've been falling down the standings because uh because are bad there's because they are awful but they were supposed to be like easily in the play-in game and all of a sudden the spurs kind of went on a little bit of run and they've been like tied with them for the last play-in spot so he might just be looking at it like fuck it i'm done like our team is so dog shit and i don't want to be in a lot i don't want to be fighting for the last play-in spot they really are dog shit yeah anyways one of my favorite sports things of this season
Starting point is 01:06:10 is just uh like the tnt panel just clowning on freaking there's this other dude i follow on tiktok who just he does everything very monotone and the the lakers had me absolutely hornswoggled in this one i i freak what's the guy's name i gotta follow him on tiktok i don't know but that's your uh that's your minute basketball corner but for our first question of the press conference i think might be your only question this one's from wham 87 6543 for our first question we are also going to be straying into other sports that are not hockey because wham 87 6543 wants to know steve will you be doing i pray the answer to this question is yes steve Will you be doing a WCFR, World Cup Fan Reaction, after every Canada World Cup game?
Starting point is 01:07:03 When are they? The World Cup is in July. This year? Yeah. Qatar. This is a stupid question. I know it's 2022, so why did I say this year? Let me see the start date.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Oh, yeah. I forgot. But the corrupt nature of FIFA. So they'll be holding the World Cup in November this year. Because one, Qatar is too hot to hold the World Cup during the summer. Right. And they are an incredibly corrupt place. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:39 I'm following. I don't know how to say this nicely. I'm trying to drag this out because they're doing the draw as we speak. Yeah. So they're holding the World Cup from November 21st to December 18th. So we have some time here. But this will be during the regular season. So you will have to be doing double LFRs.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Yeah, that decreases the odds dramatically. And keep in mind, Jays. What do you mean? What if they're in the playoffs? I want to leave that option open. The only way this comes into play is if they're in the World Series. Exactly. Because the last week of November into October is the World Series.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Jesse that's how I'm trying to be alright so no is the answer the answer is probably not probably not no world cup I have to know something about soccer dude no you don't what do you want me to get my father-in-law in there
Starting point is 01:08:35 no you don't I think you'll watch the games like we're all going to be watching the games Canada's in the world cup oh my god and you just react to it we'll see just what you see you won't understand like the soccer lingo and the technical aspect that's going on but you'll be interesting to hear your thoughts I'll think about it
Starting point is 01:08:51 I got lots of time Think about it We got till November Anyways I think that's it For today Is it? Yeah we had the one question That was a fun question
Starting point is 01:08:59 I Want to see Mrazek is out At least Till the playoffs He's done for the regular season That was announced by the Leafs Yesterday
Starting point is 01:09:10 Jake Muzzin Is Working his way back They said that he is Getting real close Is the quote and Kerfoot we do not have an update on his status same with Ilya Labushkin do we talk about Yandel no so there's 15 games left in the season Elliot Friedman just tweeted with those 15 games
Starting point is 01:09:35 Flyers management is in discussions with Keith Yandel about how to handle those final games because they want to get some of their younger defenders in and let's be honest if Keith Yandel didn't have this iron man streak going he wouldn't be in the lineup he wouldn't have been in the lineup for the last two years he would have been taken out a long time ago but there's a possibility he scratched tomorrow against the leafs so all eyes are on it with the streak 11 games away from a thousand consecutive and he'd be the first player ever i believe to play a thousand consecutive games he owns the record right now this is 989 is the record and every game he plays continues that record and i think you have to let him play a thousand games like how how do you not let him
Starting point is 01:10:26 do that that's that's a disgrace if you've gone this far and then now all of a sudden you're like all right we need to get some young guys and some veterans in like no you signed up for this uh philly as a leap fan who went through different versions of this with mike babcock and we we know his legacy with Mike Medano and you kind of made your bed and got to lay in it like Yandel's got a I think he's got to play he's 11 games away yeah let him get to a thousand scratch him for the rest of the season if you want dude get the get that round number and then yeah the final four games like don't play him let it then it's over I like I come on that's if he doesn't play tomorrow night that's bullshit i feel awful for the dude it's gonna hang over your organization i think unless
Starting point is 01:11:14 it's yandles idea like i'm yet unless yandles the one going nope let the kids get in if it's his idea i mean you wash then yeah wash your hands of it but um that sort of thing sticks with your organization yeah if he's fighting this he's like no just let me play 11 games dude we got this far in the season we played 60 games already why now what are they playing for right you're playing for nothing they put there like the tweet from friedman where he says there's some younger players who need to play and veterans hoping to get contracts for next year there are other slots in the lineup veterans yeah dude dress 7d the but now do you hear what we're saying like all of those decisions are counter to what is best for the flyers there's nothing best because
Starting point is 01:12:03 they're not playing for anything let the guy just play out the season they kind of made this mess didn't they yeah you signed up or you know what you were doing when you signed Keith Yandel you knew he had the streak you knew he was going to want to hit a thousand games if injury didn't hit him and now we're here and now you're making this decision it's crazy but do right by a guy but now if he plays tomorrow based on past experience with threatening to take Keith Yandel out of the lineup tomorrow you get super yandle yeah he's gonna score you get minimum to assist super yandle yeah yeah that's an interesting one i think the flyers have awoken the beast and he's gonna crush the end of the season yeah it's not just the end of the streak it's the end of his career let's be
Starting point is 01:12:47 honest he's probably i doubt he's getting signed he should hit a thousand and then retire he shouldn't even finish the season hit a thousand and then walk out just have popcorn yeah for the final four games that's what i would do if i was keith yandel yeah that's a tough one who are the veterans yeah that's a tough one also it's one spot on the roster you know if you want younger guys and other guys are they all playing the same defense right to right d on the third line like that's where keith yandel is so they're all playing that same spot all the younger guys you want the lineup are all same defensemen that are gonna play in the same role as keith yandel like no anyway just before we finished the show okay we got there what do you what do you want from
Starting point is 01:13:29 elliot friedman which is hilarious okay canada will be in a group with belgium croatia and morocco i don't know how to feel about that i know belgium like belgium is aren't they ranked number one yeah and croatia croatia is a good team they're a good team i don't know anything about morocco i didn't even know their flag when it came up and i like to think i'm pretty good with that but uh it's red with a green star i'm trying to see did not know that yeah croatia men's ranking oh okay belgium is number oh good oh steve saying you can't do world cup lfrs there's uh belgium number one you nailed it shit and then who else we got you said croatia's 14 14 canada's 38 yeah and then morocco morocco's 34
Starting point is 01:14:27 so canada was 33 and then they lost their final game to panama because who gives a shit so they're pretty evenly matched with morocco then canada here's what we're looking for this Canada's second ever World Cup They made it in 1986 They lost every game and did not score a goal They got a score goal Canada's ranked 70 In
Starting point is 01:14:52 Total points for the men's ranking In the FIFA World Cup I don't know how updated that is But they're ranked 70 right now I think it's out of date They're the bottom team in the group And last but not least I'm glad the show carried on an extra couple minutes
Starting point is 01:15:08 From Sheldon Keefe jack campbell will start against philly i'm shocked really they said he was clear to play like on wednesday what do you mean yeah i don't know it just feels like there wasn't enough fanfare behind it it was a two it was a two-week window this is exactly on schedule he's actually a little late it was a two-week window two thursdays ago he's a little late and on wednesday he said it was clear to play and this is it should be fair expect us to go let's go go canada go all kinds the Leafs Toronto Canada pot World Cup is always so much fun in the city
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