The Steve Dangle Podcast - What's Better Than This? | October 12, 2022

Episode Date: October 12, 2022

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the steve dangle podcast with your host steve dangle adam wild and jesse blake it's not halloween it's easter as it is easter seals time that's right get it no no no no no you know what i thought i thought easter seals was an all-year thing easter in your heart charity it's a charity to help kids with physical disabilities but i don't want to talk about that i just want to look down the barrel of the camera no at my camera producer nick andrade and have a refreshing delicious coffee crisp how does he not like those because he's a piece of shit isn't he your producer on dang it no yeah i love him nick i love you

i'm sorry but you're wrong about coffee wow um wow yeah easter seals all right let's talk about it what do we need to do so usually you're accustomed to me um asking you for uh easter donations for about three months there's so much chocolate on the deck because it's made it's wafer i'm fucked up starts eating right as he's supposed to do his little his plug here i don't know what are you thinking i was thinking delicious charity plug with a mouthful of chocolate here's what i was thinking it's always great to have the support of friends and also um yeah usually i bug you for like three months i've been a little preoccupied recently uh with the move but blue room's all set up leaf season is starting right on time for me

to bother you now for exactly a month in fact a month less a day so we are raising money for easter seals ontario charity that helps out kids with physical disabilities helps send kids to camp like summer camps and fun stuff like that in an accessible environment and the reason that's important have you ever tried to take a wheelchair to the beach it's the reason i hate the beach um like still to this day you know childhood memories and for those of you who are new here my you know sister has cerebral palsy and she uses a wheelchair and you were in easter seal's family and we were in easter seal's family we we got to go to the camps um both my parents myself and rachel and got to you know play all sorts of games and memories that i still have

today easter seals helps out with equipment like wheelchairs afos walkers stuff like that it's all stuff that's enormously expensive that's why it means so much to me so i guess we're gonna have a link somewhere right in the description right in the description uh for rachel's raiders we're going to be raising money for uh the next month uh november 10th at night is the deadline so get it in get it in there is no contribution that's too small easter seal now let's go adam and i are going to play in the tournament with you it's been a well we're going to lose every game great well yeah obviously yeah you know we're going to hold you back but it's been a two year hiatus since we've played in the tournament we did well last time you guys were there yeah we won one game

i don't know if that's what we want to do because i got trent the goalie he was right yeah my buddy trent who is like lights out unbelievable stop 40 shots a game yeah yeah he was ridiculous you need to have a good goalie at a tournament like that we had a really good goalie last year too oh perfect yeah do adam and i have to raise money or can we just direct the money that would go to us towards you yes i don't know yeah how do we do that well you got to raise 750 bucks or you can't play so let's start there oh there's beyond the team okay minimum okay once we hit that can we just fund your big pool of money if you want i'd like to do that yeah it all goes to the same place yeah but that's what i think jesse's point right yeah so like if if i i don't want to take

away from any of if you hit like the magic number if you if you accomplish your goal like i'd like uh my donations to go towards your pool yeah or if you see any other members on rachel's raiders are struggling you could always donate to them yeah that's as well yeah okay i like that okay i like that let's make some money money that's it your michael bay impression from tiktok yeah let's make some fucking money let's let's do that raise as much money as possible um i'm trying to remember how much money it costs like per day to send kids to camp i want to say it's like 250 or something like that so that's how i look at it every 250 raised is one day at camp for one person okay what were the uh the wheelchair numbers were staggering oh well it

depends so like a a just a push wheelchair um is i think you can get them for under a grand um but motorized wheelchairs forget it like wow because there's there's so much customization that goes into it too like um you know there are there's some things that are standard equipment like some people can use the same wheelchairs but other people need very specific equipment made for them and it costs a lot of money um which can cost thousands of dollars so here's here's i guess a way to look at it um if i am correct on the 250 dollars a day for camp which i think i am uh me my sister and both my parents went that's a thousand dollars a day just to just go to camp so let's do it let's do it raise a big pile of cash cashola um like bill burn

Huel from Breaking Bad Just lie down on it in the storage locker The link is in the description Hey guys, we had some NHL Hockey last night Jack Johnson Jack Eichel and his Peaky blinders looking ass

Scoring his first goal, did you see him walk in? And his peaky blinders looking ass He went full peaky blinders on that, I'm like Jack, come on Come on Jack, that's five years ago But he's just He's gotta be Radiating hotness, because there's a There's a new young buck, and his name is Philip Kessel in town.

And look at that. Blue Jackets. The Vegas Golden Knights are undefeated with Phil Kessel in the lineup. I have to say, I don't believe Kessel even registered a point last night, but that marked Stone Goal with 26 seconds to go. What an absolute dagger. Dagger for the Kings, right? just because it's not like it's that does it matter that much in the grand scheme of things

no because there's 81 more games and the kings are going to be fine they're a very good team but it is it's the first game you know and it's the first game my initial reaction to the kings losing was surprise um like just in their body language i'm like you guys are a little too crushed right now but they're you know we say they wanted it though we say all the time the regular season doesn't matter it very extremely does very very extremely does and if you lost if you lose your first game you start on the wrong foot it's there are games throughout the season that are you know more important than others let's be honest game one well game one against vegas too yeah you put a pin in the calendar man like that's that's a team you're

gonna be battling probably potentially for the last playoff spot for third or fourth third and fourth in the division too potentially yeah potentially that's it's a big game and jesse just pulled up jack eichel and you're right that is that is jack eichel and his peaky blinders looking ass yeah he was peaky blinders for sure well the pocket the pocket square oh yeah the not saying it's not sharp sometimes just yeah is that double breasted is that double is it double breasted yeah under the the vest oh the vest is double breasted oh yeah yeah he needed one of those like winston churchill like one of those watches that are attached to the chain where you flip it open yes very pretentious is the train running on time you put your monocle

the locomotive logo ah of course now i saved the second game okay on purpose on purpose because i knew as soon as we got to the second game the first game wouldn't matter so i'm doing this in i'm doing this in tarantino order i'm giving you i'm giving you the the the end first now i'm going to give you the beginning and the first game of the night was an eastern conference final oh no rematch the tampa bay lightning three-time stanley cup appearers two-time winners versus jesse's pick to win the stanley cup this year the new york boo one winner rangers 82 and oh baby let's go because i've been a jack two goals game one man let's go your screech voice is it's crazy you know what's funny they gotta hear me in msg oh i know chris crider had

over 50 goals last year but in our 50 goal conversation we didn't bring up me because his band we should nearly enough easily i think that could make him the most underrated goal score in the nhl oh yeah he could easily be in that 50 goal elliot freedom was saying that uh at nhl at the nhl europe press conference press tour or whatever they did uh all the players there picked uh barkov as the still the most underrated player uh they did that in vegas as well oh really yeah they did uh well and it just shows so everyone is barkov barkov barkov barkov and then we get to morgan riley who has a bigger brain than most of us okay and he said well i want to say barkov but i assume everyone said barkov so that makes him not underrated is that what

morgan riley said some i'm paraphrasing okay i haven't seen the i don't think that that makes him not underrated if everyone says he's underrated he's not underrated everyone like who everyone like five nhlers or everyone like the entire fan base because there's a whole league the dude makes 10 million dollars like i think your contract's not underrated you're adequately compensated that's doesn't mean he's not under your gm uh understands your value i think that's a great start uh morgan riley's uh uh uh answer that wasn't barkov was zach hyman oh that's a that's a good shout out to an old teammate it's his pal yeah and i mean he probably break after those playoffs i was like maybe he's underpaid jesse tell me you watched the

ranger game last night i watched a good chunk of it yeah and it started off on the worst uh note you could ever start an nhl season off where they had the referee uh welcoming everybody to the season uh in the most monotone worst cringy way are we allowed to play that i don't think so not actually okay because i wanted to talk about that and i just it's from the game so i filmed it from my tv so i was watching i was watching the game and then they started i was like did he actually just do that in front of the whole world and i rewound it and i filmed the segment then i saw it all over twitter so but like it was the worst way to start a season as you all know i'm an enormous wrestling fan and there are certain promos that go down in lore as the worst ones

and his reminds me of yep have you seen that one no so this the i think it's mean gene oakland it's you know he's setting the guy up and you're gonna kick his ass tonight aren't you and the and he for some reason wasn't prepared to speak for the segment that is exclusively him speaking so Adam here set me up for my big wrestling match now welcoming

to the ring Steve Dangle yep I'm gonna beat him up and I'm gonna fight him and when I fight him he will be fought and it's just a train wreck oh I've not heard that

oh it's really bad it's if you type in wrestling promo yep i'm sure it'll come up uh that's that's what it reminded me of all right everyone this is the time for hockey who's what's better than this why what was with that line it's unfair to the official like why are you making that well yeah bring out somebody who's like a like a celebrity or or or a former player super bowl did they had the rock they had the rock and remember he came out for the super bowl and he did that it was weird it was kind of cringy as well but at least it was the rock can i just say with the rock and i've been a rock fan forever that's there's some stuff he does that is so cringe there's some stuff he does that is so cringe like what jesse's talking about like that it's about grind it's

about power it's about money yeah you didn't need to come out with a song you didn't need to rap you didn't need to be a rapper you see that meme that's him in a in a tan shirt and camo pants in four different photos and it says this is four different movies yes yes we forget though one he's a child actor star the rock the rock like a lot of wayne johnson a lot of his movies like jumanji and the superhero movies kids movies yeah oh like though that's that's not talking about demographic no but his personality off of outs i was gonna say off the ice uh off the movie screen also lends to that in ways that it's cringy and and it's a little corny little cornball but he's like he's a professional actor he's a he's a wrestler and his main demographic is kids yeah

i forgive him for that and you know what i was a kid when i started liking him and it worked out for me then man i had a t-shirt and everything i loved the rock man rocky mayavia well i was that was pre me getting into wrestling but i saw him i was there when he and hulk hogan faced off at wrestlemania that was cool that's your gold medal game oh my god i was there i was there and i remember it i remember it we were standing in our seats it was so crazy it was an un that was an unbelievable match and he's amazing and i will love him forever for that but i gotta say like there's sometimes i'm like what are you doing dwayne yeah it's renowned it's renowned as one of the best crowds you were part of one of the best crowds in wrestling i was the best crowd

you were it was me you 12 year old me what uh where are you sitting uh i was sitting uh it was in it was at uh skydome at the times roger center we'll get to the rangers shut up and it was like uh we were at the back in the bottom bowl but you know at roger center where there's no baseball field there that's a long way away right because it was in the middle of it but like you're way back roger center for non-baseball things is it's crazy although they built the 100 level incorrectly in that it goes too far up yeah it's about 35 rows i think to the back of the like 118 or whatever that's incorrect it's too much also they're taking out seats this year uh they're gonna make they're renovating they're doing a full renovation i think they're gonna bring it

down to 45 000 rather than 55 000 people actually pretty sure that's that's been the plan for a while and they want to put in like you know what like if you go to the where the marlins play and i don't expect that anybody's gone and seen the marlins but i have and because i do love baseball and i love a good baseball stadium and i like to like walk around the uh concourse you saw the new stadium the new one okay cool when it was brand new too like 10 years ago and it has the retractable roof it looks almost identical to skydome except it has shit to do like it had at that time and i'm not sure if it still has that weird fountain remember that weird fountain out in the art sculpture yeah and it had restaurants and you could you can go and get a beer and watch the

game from the out whereas like if you're on the concourse at roger center you're not seeing anything unless you're on the unless you're watching the tvs right so i think what they're going to try to do is probably replicate some of the stuff that's going on in miami yeah and make it actually like a lot more user-friendly this is the worst anecdotal evidence ever but there's an episode of blippy where he goes to the arizona diamondbacks and they had blippy night blippy night blippy is a kid show no way kids i bet they packed that place though well and i'm watching it with my toddler and i'm sitting there going man they have a lot of shit they have pools they have a hot tub in the outfield yeah yeah they have a hot tub in like the hottest place in the world

well why would anyone ever try that it's the desert though it gets cool at night well there you go it does you gotta go in the hot it's a stadium with a roof on it you know yeah yeah um the yeah you were saying you sat in the rogers center in the 100 sat in the rogers center in the 100s for that and uh it was it was very cool and like i was like i was i was really i remember being really split about it because i was a huge hulk hogan fan too and but he was supposed to be the bad guy and everybody was on hulk's side yeah and then and eric young actually who is a friend of the show who we love you know he told me backstage at a uh what event were we at jesse at the paramount fine food center that was was that aw was that impact no it was an impact it

was impact yeah i was wondering is that impact so we were in an impact show and eric told me backstage that that is like one of the things that they look at they when they train young wrestlers they show them that tape because hulk and the rock while they're in the ring had to turn the crowd in the rock's favor because it was going the wrong way and and and they did it the some it was amazing crowd work i saw recently was a tag match in aw the acclaimed versus swerve in their glory which is the worst tag team name and swerve in their glory it was a guy named swerve and friggin Keith Lee and it's anyway

takes too long to explain but the crowd was just so jacked for the acclaimed whose big thing was they just go around going like this to each other and they scream scissor me daddy and and Billy Gunn the badass Billy Gunn

is like their manager so the whole crowd was literally screaming scissor me daddy ass and they had to like do an audible because everyone's like well they clearly want them to win wow anyway is igor better i think so i don't know uh the uh the msg crowd was just electric last night yeah msg it the home stadium Of WWE They

They were crazy It was electric And the Zbigniew goal The first goal of the year For the Rangers Where he roofs it backhand Just beautiful I'm still trying to figure out what he did with his foot

Yeah so I was pulling it up here Just to get another look of it It's so dirty The way he He's on his right foot And he pivoted And in the whole way, when he's charging Vasilevsky, he remains only on his right foot. And places the backhand perfectly.

He fakes with his left foot that he's going to put it down, but he remains up on his right foot. And while he's doing that, he's going forehand to backhand, and he roofs it top corner over the shoulder. It's beautiful. It was a beautiful start for Rangers fans, and I'm very happy for them. And it's a great start for the team on their way to 82-0. and uh uncharacteristic defense from the tampa bay lightning that goal should not have been possible so they started really slow the first period was uncharacter well maybe it's kind of tampa bay lane because what we saw in the playoffs where they started slow and then just came back

and won everything like if we if you guys remember they were down 2-0 to the rangers oh i know series yeah and then they won four straight games and it reminded me of those early games in that series where tampa looked a little little older on defense where they couldn't keep up with the speed that the rangers had and even it was like four seconds into the game there was a scoring chance where stamkos was going back to his own net and he kind of fell down and the rangers had a little a little shot on bassy there um but i'm not worried about the the lightning at all this first game of the season but the rangers looked like they were firing on all cinders right away yeah well i mean we make fun of jesse but like it's not that we don't think there's stanley

cup i think rangers fans think that we don't think they're good yeah no no it's just you guys uh don't think they're even going to make the playoffs that's not what we said yeah you're like my dark horse prediction is a team that went to the final four last year like that's not a dark horse of course they're good when we're doing a preview and this is where rangers fans got upset is like they're like why are you asking about igor oh clearly he's gonna be great he's not gonna get injuries he'll be fine i'm like listen the team is close to perfect he's not gonna get injured i gotta pick something i gotta i gotta find something that maybe they're worth criticizing they didn't win the cup so there's something there and and beyond that yeah they're a really

good team so at some point you're gonna be like okay it's almost perfect what are the what are the potential weaknesses like you can you can talk about how how laugh still needs to mature into into a full-time uh star yeah you know needs to score more than half a point a game they're fucking they're 20 21 and 22 yeah you know they're still kids and they like we can talk about all that but like adam you questioning igor oh man how could i question the linchpin it's like asking at what happens if matthews goes down right you know what you know what we should have done rangers fans and and this goes for sense fans too who are really upset they're great 10 minutes everyone just let it run for 10 minutes everyone is gonna end up in first

and all 32 teams are gonna have one finger on the cup and they're all gonna skate in a circle singing whatever your favorite song is. That's right. Actually, what Gary's favorite song is. And whatever your favorite song is, I got news for you. It's the best song. The previews weren't about saying nice things

about all 32 teams. It was about critiquing the teams and making predictions on how the season might go. You said something I mildly disagreed with. I don't know how to more clearly say I think there's like four bad teams in the NHL and that's it.

No, you didn't have the Ottawa Senators uh finishing second place so you're an idiot you guys even had the we had the senators in in fifth both of no for the rangers you had the rangers as the second best team in their division yeah yeah like yeah but rangers fans are like fuck the canes i don't even know where carolina is doesn't matter new york baby new york and i agree with that like they're right but you guys you guys of america a little insulting i know i know sorry guys um they're all great uh uh hey guys how many goals do you have at the nhl level uh none jesse how many goals have you scored in the nhl oh uh zero zero goals yeah zero this may shock you but i too have scored zero goals

you didn't even have one not one not one like your foot i know i know dude i asked dubas and he said no you can't have another shot after my first shot that he clearly gave me when do we get to do the game the game how many people have to disappear from earth for steve dangle to be a number one center we're not doing it right now this is a lead into something else but we are gonna play the game i had a 10 minute conversation before our show last week and we determined we came up with a really good number what's the so we're not no we're not gonna do it we're not doing it right now but how many people like if there are any mathematicians listening how many people would would have to be thanos snapped yes yeah yeah so for steve to have

to play a game to get a number one center number one set oh it's a number one center no i think it could be a fourth line right wing what if i just crack the lineup crack the lineup no or the least you're like steve you gotta do this it's easy actually it's extremely difficult the way we came up with a number and we'd only be dropping like a couple hundred thousand or something after you'd be number one center i don't know about a couple hundred thousand i think you're talking millions all right all right all right this is a great conversation great it is a really interesting we might have to save it till like the summer i know i know um okay uh okay so so i know our discord friday and if i know adam never don duchamp anyway um jeff

uh the sabers have signed a player with zero nhl goals to a seven-year 30 million dollar contract that is banana sandwich if you're wondering just a hair under 4.3 52 games total in the nhl now if you look at the card that dom put out what's the player's name the player's name is oh sorry matthias samuelson now if you're a sabers fan sabers fans love this guy they absolutely love this guy and clearly so does the organization because um you know uh they're signing him to this sort of a deal this is a nikita zaitsev deal and it doesn't mean that he's a nikita zaitsev player i want you to be i want to be clear because nikita zaitsev at least had scored four goals before the leaf signed him to a seven-year contract and run and run a second

power play but there is upside on this deal so first off samuelson played all the major five on five minutes last year and looked okay but the sabers suck so it's difficult to get a read on all those numbers 52 games in but i thought he's a second round pick from 2018 like he's not no one no no no and i like cam chiron's take on it if you don't mind me just sort of repeating this because nice to have cam back he said the samuelson deal is uh fascinating buffalo envision having lots of money tied up in the top end in a few years so they need to take some risks uh that move the needle on cheaper contracts and the way to do that is to pay players before they break out and he compared it to the oscar cleft bomb deal he said he got nearly an identical deal with

samuelson just signed uh after 17 nhl games uh despite how frequently cleft bomb got hurt he said i'd argue the deal worked out for edmonton cleft bomb played pretty tough minutes but um he had a plus one relative course if we want to get into that sort of thing and he said samuelson is at a minus two percent last year so not he said that's a huge difference uh but it really didn't change uh after this sabers injected owen power into the lineup i said with samuelson because he's so raw and hasn't broke out broken out yet you really have to trust your development staff there's probably some internal disagreement with the sabers over this move and he said lastly um one positive is that this management staff didn't draft samuelson so they aren't really

tethered to him it's possible this is a move made with a clear objective in mind it's also possible that they jumped the gun and made an emotional decision and that's what because i don't think anybody nobody knows the answer to this right no i i clef bomb is a good comparison and that was a good deal like people forget how good he was amazing great player he just he just kept getting hurt um is he is he never playing again he's never it doesn't look like it he might but it doesn't look like it um chris johnston had a good uh comparable in john klingberg who signed a very similar deal um at a very similar point in his career at the time of clingberg's contract i think it's the best or one of the best comparisons here he was midway kind of midway

three quarters way through his first nhl season so he was only about 50 games in when he signed that but he he finished that season with 11 goals 29 assists and 40 points so he's more of a offensive defenseman clearly but um it's the same it's the same strategy here you know clingberg is if this works out and if it doesn't, it's Zaitsev. Sure. Right. At the end of the day, I mean, Zaitsev is playing. And also,

what's different about Zaitsev versus the Samuelson deal, and this is to the Sabres' credit, is that Zaitsev's deal ate up a lot more of the percentage of cap space than Samuelson's deal will on either the Sabres or another team come two years from now.

Zaitsev was also 24? yeah he's like 22 he's 22 now yeah so that yeah so the thing is is that like when this when the cup goes up another 10 and it will in the next three years cap cap foreshadowing sabers fans yeah yeah maybe uh when the cup goes up another 10 it's just gonna matter that much less yeah and then it's a steal and if he's great five on five he's a second pair defenseman okay great yeah that'll be second and like the the zaitsev thing he's they're such different players too I think oh yeah you know and the Age is a huge difference I don't think

Sometimes contracts are too similar sometimes I like Comparing the players sometimes I like to start things And get a little under people's skin first before we Break it down and I know it pisses people off but It's sort of funny like you the guy Has never scored a goal at the NHL level And they just gave him 30 million bucks and I know That's not his job but also

Not even by accident how many Assists does he have no butt goals how many Um uh 40 guess 12 in his entire career Yes 12 well done steven well i read it in the car but no you're a car cheater i i check my phone before i i park it and i get out there it is uh 42 games last year 10 assists and then two assists the year before yeah it's not like they're hurting for the cap space either they got it they do

the thing is the thing is with the cap space though is it's amazing how quickly it disappears and four million is not going to kill you but it's a pain in the ass just ask the leaps this is also um i think a sign that things are changing in buffalo because this is a definitely sketchy move it's a sketchy move and we're not collectively dunking on the sabers okay because kevin adams has earned a little bit of leeway keep going keep going i want to know what you think about that oh i just think he's done well i mean what what is what is the what is the assumption with any move the sabers make or what was it tearing it down prior to the jack tearing it down not just tearing it down but they're gonna do it shitty oh yeah they weren't good at this

player up guess they're bad well like in the last one that they really signed to a big deal was jeff skinner and that did not work out well thanks yeah and the okpozo deal before that bad luck there with some injuries and things like that and now he's the captain by the way and now he's a captain but yeah if you look at the the you know the the eichel trade obviously that's worked out really well with alex tuck and then you've got the ryan o'reilly trade with tage thompson but another risky deal to that point steve is tage thompson tage thompson by the way scored 65 of his career goals last year his career high end goals before last year was eight now he had and then he had 38 and then they signed him to a contract which pays him about seven million bucks

year isn't that wild don granado yeah the extension came down today this morning oh for the uh for the coach yeah don granado like it's kind of a nice time to be a buffalo sabres fan finally finally for the first time since 2000 and you know what eight if you're uh if you're a fan of uh great hockey then you should be a fan of sabres hockey being good uh the nhl is the you know the sabres might be one of the smaller quote-unquote market teams in the nhl but they are one of the strongest markets and it's such a shame that a lot like with the leafs for 15 years that one of hockey's best markets got fed just a dog shit team year after year because honestly when when buffalo is like you we were the hoshik era yes so we remember what that was like it was unbelievable

and even you know later on with danny briere wasn't bad then either with marty baron and chris drury yeah great teams ryan miller i remember thinking that was unfair how did they have how do they have hoshek and they go to huron and then miller it's a little bit rangers going from lundquist to stirkin yeah which is maybe even a juiced up version of that but a hoshek to miller it was just i don't know like what 20 years of you go to buffalo and can't score and they played that smothering deep they were the other team that made hockey boring because the devils were the team right they they clogged in the neutral zone so did the sabers you just and they never get anything like mike pecka oh i can't wait to you just pick up the remote and you go can't wait to

be in a bad mood tonight yeah i'm gonna hate this i'm gonna hate this win or lose probably lose i'm gonna hate this they also it doesn't help that the leaves didn't friggin win ever ever even when they were good like didn't they have some ridiculous record against the sabers sabers always kill awful off and there'd always be they'd always do that crowd shot at the beginning the game oh lots of leaf fans in attendance tonight and that just depression and they're just terrible gonna leave their seats once yeah they're all fans uh they got a lot to be happy about and i don't like the bad teams who win when the season's over thing but the sabers did through march and april go 16 9 and 3 they had that in their press release with don gradado and that's

102 point pace Over a significant amount of games Like the games didn't matter but That's a lot to be happy about and I think That you earn your extension for Kevin Adams that was at the end of August Early September and then Don Granato Now gets his and then all these players are getting

Their money as well there's a Really good core to build around there in Buffalo And a little shout out to noted Alan Walsh Client JJ Paterka who signed An entry level deal as Well he got his entry level deal he's 20 years old he is a hat uh we should send him a hat noted alan walsh client jj paturka now here's your trivia question what does the jj in jj stand for jj no they're actual names i'm almost positive

The second one is John Okay He's German right I don't know Jürgen John Paterka You can't say Jürgen Why can't I say Jürgen

Munchen That's a place Well if I say Munchen You know it's in Germany Johan John Paterka Jason John Paterka It should have been J-J-A-Y-J-A-Y

J-J J-J I like that J-J Yeah What's my middle name? It's J Homer J Simpson

There's a scene where Bart's like I want to be you when I grow up And then Homer's like Well, you could be Homer Jr. The kids will call you Hoju I love this I'll lead prospects A little shout out to J.J. Baturka

If you're a hockey player this sentence is the sentence that you want you ready for this he's violent disruptive a real pain in the ass oh well that's what that's an elite prospect scouting report on him isn't that crazy that ridiculous world junior where tim stutzla just decided to put team germany on his back and said screw it we're winning yeah um he did have yeah i'd say his number one like foot soldier Was JJ Paterka Like it wasn't just a one man show It was like a you know

Two or three man show Leafs get started tonight They got a back to back Because they're the Toronto Maple Leafs And they always play effing back to backs Three games in four days How do we feel have you allowed yourself To get excited

LFR won tonight And I oh man I get excited for The most exciting thing so i got new light bulbs in the blue room i don't know if you saw the seat the roster preview i thought it looked good except everything was like yellow it won't be now everything is much brighter get those dentist office bulbs don't you worry everyone it'll be nice and shiny uh game one of the season um uh or lfr one of the season i hate i always hate it why i always hate it um because i

always feel like i don't know what i'm doing and i've never done this before are you just a little out of practice is that yeah is every season just a little different yes and you're going to be in a new space too and that that weirdly enough does sort of scramble things and i'm going to have more space to play with so maybe i will go running back and forth more also i'll be out of focus less because uh on friday my monitor is arriving so i don't have to look at the little viewfinder on the camera to see if i'm in focus or not cool so that's gonna be really neat like that and then things you should have had decades ago yeah shut up and uh i'm just really excited for seeing the team hit the ice because it's funny like jd bunkus this morning on the radio i did

a hit with him was talking about how there's like no buzz for this team it felt like that last year too it feels like there's more buzz than last year last year everyone was very upset this year it's a little better and there's no buzz until they play i also second they play i also think people are relaxed i would say that there's a relaxed feeling because because people were sounding alarm bells last year at this time because it's like they just fucking lost to montreal come on i know they went to the finals but come on that was a bad and it wasn't that they had lost in game seven it was they'd lost five six and seven brutally so it was it was that part of it that part of it was concerning and i think the team that we saw last year is the best team in leafs

regular season history we saw the best player in regular season history for the leafs uh in austin matthews he's the best player that's ever played for the leafs that cemented it and then you have um and then you have them lose to the top team in the division in seven games and it comes down to one goal top team in the division that finished third yeah well i mean top team division because they went to the finals again no like two years in a row they've lost to the stanley cup final eventual stanley cup final team right yeah so it's two uh a little different three out of four three out of four boston too boston 2019 so you know i think i think that there's a little bit more i think realistically there's a lot to be excited about here but i think it's it's people

are just kind of like i'm gonna enjoy this i think you should you should enjoy the regular season there's great storylines and like the with the hype thing the timeline of our lives is also kind of screwed up because last year was still a full covid season we had canceled games last december and delayed fans got uh were banned from the building again uh for a number of weeks and like going into last october when the season was was relaunching um there was still a risk to go to a stadium you know people didn't want to be in crowds still so it was a completely different environment it wasn't the same same world that we're living in uh today so i think you need to take that into perspective as well when you think about like the hype from from last year to this

year yeah i'm just i want to go to a game i want i don't want to think about it i just want to have some fun i went when i went to uh monday night raw uh about a month ago every now and then i'd be like there's a lot of people here shut that off right hooray edge and that let's go edge that attitude of people just going to games is back now you know and i feel like uh there's a little bit more buzz to this season yeah and i want to see dennis malgan get a hat trick because it's funny that's that's all i want to see just a dennis malgan hat trick and the fans we're not going to overreact we're not going to overreact damn it we're not okay listen if the goalies are very very bad you have full license to overreact however i've been saying this for over a month

now haven't i that i think the leafs are going to struggle a bit in october they have a very very difficult month of october if you look through your team's calendar which our schedule which i encourage everyone to do you're gonna see soft spots and you're gonna see spots where you're like oh that's hell week this is not a fun month for the leafs they start with a back-to-back and three games in four nights then they get two home games jesse's got it up they got two home games arizona dallas uh and then they go on a five game road trip to end the month winnipeg vegas san jose la ducks this is this is a good thing though it is a good thing get that shit out of the way yeah the the west coast trip like that's always the worst part of the entire season

they do it fucking three weeks in where they're all fresh everybody's healthy hopefully like tavars is gonna play tonight everybody's healthy and you get that west strip uh uh out of the way and then all these road games as well that means your back half is filled with home games when you're trying to go for the playoffs every every habs fan go look at your november if they if they end up winning some games and making uh some teams a little uncomfortable in the atlantic november's the time to do it they they have a lot of soft target teams and a lot of rest like go through everyone go through there are some what they call schedule losses and you know nights where it should be free points right the uh the schedules also did a at least a little bit

of favor there when you go from winnipeg to vegas and then the west coast quick like you're getting all that kind of because you're you're kind of in the same not the same time zone because winnipeg's one hour but like you're hanging out in the region you're not making too far flights you're going all there so you can really establish kind of a little routine a pattern there in those two weeks where you're on that road trip i feel like that that the california road trip that is just so i hate it like for work purposes i hate it um it's usually i want to say just prior to christmas so getting it out of the way out of the way nice and early good for me that means we don't have to worry about it ever again until they go to vancouver what record would you be happy with

on the 31st of october so what's that 10 games honestly over 500 like a 5 4 and 1 how many wins something like how many points 6 3 5 4 and 1 that'd be 11 points you want them to come out with 11 points i'd like i'd like a dozen let's say a dozen operation a dozen so 12 we need six wins in in october yeah or like five three and two 12 points that's what you want yeah i'm telling you it's really low bar it is a low bar but go look in november yeah it's better november yeah and like they don't have a ton of soft target teams even really like it's funny i think the leafs are a better team on paper than montreal look at all that blue in november for the leaves one two three four five six seven eight nine home games they have a shitload of games in november oh

my god but a lot of them are at home that's that's when i think they'll make it back up a bit couple back-to-backs that kind of sucks but they play pittsburgh three times that's enough in the month i don't like that and two of them are in pittsburgh one is on the back half of the back-to-back oh yeah because so the healthy malkin and crosby too like they haven't had a chance to get hurt something about that building saps the leafs of their power they're not good in pittsburgh at all ever no and by the end of november they're not going to go back to san jose they already play them twice i'm just by the by november 8th they'll be done playing vegas like there there are some yeah go go look through your team's schedule some interesting stuff that doesn't seem like

it matters now but okay so a couple of things uh coming out of 32 thoughts blog uh the first one is that apparently jack hamill and the least relationship ended on a bit of a sour note on both sides both sides are apparently ended it ended things a little upset with each other i guess some things were said and i guess negotiations can get tense um does it make you sad to know that jack campbell's time here ended on a bit of a sour note despite the fact i mean they were also miles apart on salary i mean geez you're welcome for all the money there jack like the the leafs the leafs gave him a chance the leafs gave him a chance when the stars wouldn't the kings wouldn't they gave him an opportunity he seized it he seized it well and they gave it to him though

also they didn't have to give him those games in the playoffs when freddie was quote unquote ready freddie was on the bench now he deserved it but politics plays into it big time and there are some teams who would go you know what no we're going to we're going to go with the guy that we've had for a long time, the Leafs couldn't afford Jack Campbell. So like if the Leafs said something to him, we don't know what was said. If the Leafs said something to him, I understand

it being sour on that note, but the make no mistake, the Toronto Maple Leafs changed Jack Campbell's life for the better. Kyle Dubas changed Jack Campbell's life for the better. So I hope there is some memory of that. I'm sure there is. in the relationship um and i know to give the player himself credit and give him credit seizing

the opportunity he did the work yeah he absolutely he did the work and saved the leafs bacon on more than a few occasions especially during the uh when freddie was i mean freddie just was not healthy no and imagine they hadn't had jack this could be back-to-back years where the leafs lose their starting goalie and they go to another team and get nominated for the vesna easily you could see that happening in edmonton for sure anthony stewart had jack campbell winning the vesna no thanks thanks stewie that's great man what a troll and he had he had an unreal save in the pre-season but like it's when i saw that uh oilers fans were were glowing about it because check out the new guy with the big save but like we watched jack campbell do that time and time

again he's a good goalie it makes it it does make it kind of sad that it ended on a sour note but um i'd say both parties would do well to remember you both did pretty well here yeah um and there just wasn't a path forward management did well with it jack did well with it there was never a path forward to afford his salary did they make the right decision going with murray and samsonov well that's an entirely different conversation but this was never going to happen here what were what was the sour sour note well all that frege said was that there was some sort of i guess that there were hurt feelings on both sides over over how the negotiation process went i would imagine you know on jack campbell's side it's pretty easy to deduce they

were probably like uh jack was probably starting at seven ready to move down to a five and the leaves probably started at one and a half or two and he was probably like hey man f you i did a lot for you and then you know obviously you never know what the what the agent's relationship with um uh what the management is too because kurt overheard kurt overheard uh you know i i don't know it's it's that that part of it i i don't they didn't get into specifics from what i understand though uh and what obviously i read uh it was sort of like both sides felt like the other side was needlessly difficult in that and usually that's what it comes down to right i think the leaves Slow-balled him early last season, and discussions never recovered.

Yeah, and he tore it up in the first two months. And then was bad. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, no, listen, I'm not disagreeing with you. I just because it's – if there was any other player, I'd be like, yeah, who cares?

But it's Jack Campbell, and he's so sweet. You know, you love Jack Campbell. Yeah. You want to pinch his cheeks, man. So it's a bummer when that happens. He got a starting goalie for like a third-round pick. Like, I don't know. i i would like both parties to kiss and make up because i'm sure they will that's a little silly

um sonny milano still does not have a job as of today and like you remember sonny milano had 50 points last year yeah he also chose the wrong team yeah why calgary he he went to a place that didn't have the money at in the end of the day to sign him right you know for the number that he wants calgary only has uh 1.1 million dollars in projected cap space like they didn't have the budget after they made all their extensions and everything also i would say too like do they have a spot for him they're they're top six is their top six man there was there was a leaf player years ago who made a mystifying decision i was talking to someone about this remember jeremy williams the legend of jeremy williams no he would play i remember him but what's the legend

for three consecutive years he played one game per season in a call-up and scored in every one of them and then i believe in his fourth one third or fourth one he got called up scored again and they're like all right you know what let's keep him and like i think he even got a look with sundin like he i remember that he played for a while and i want to say i was at the game versus atlanta where he hurt his knee uh curtis joseph won that game in overtime but he left the leafs and you know okay so you you're having a hard time cracking the leafs lineup they're a middle of the pack to bottom of the middle of the pack team at the time so where do you go to crack the lineup which team do you sign with to go and get an opportunity he signed with

detroit and they were good they were going for cups that's cup winning detroit they were literally cup winning detroit and i was talking to someone in the organization they were just like jeremy what the what were you thinking can i give you some numbers yeah so he spent those years with toronto from like 05 to 09 like you said plays one game plays one game plays 18 plays 11 can't crack the lineup can't stay up there full time so his 11 was good yeah 11 was pretty good five goals uh two assists seven points that's great like you said he goes to detroit can't can't make his line if they're stacked it's the 2010 it's the 09 10 detroit red wings grand rapids in the in the ahl he puts up 32 goals 31 assists 63 points in 77 games he dominated the league

it's just their team's too good is he still playing there's a lot of green yeah he's 38 he's playing in uh with dell too that's uh the german second league yeah three games already this season 22 23 season so yeah there was it's a it's a weird decision like this it's a perfect example for sonny milano it's why calgary there's no spot for you and jeremy williams there's no where are you playing in detroit like he's sonny milano's an nhl player oh yeah oh yeah and if he can't find an nhl job it's strange well so then so then my question becomes why not look at a team that needs to score goals and my first the first team that comes up to me is the buffalo savers so i was looking i was thinking about them too because you know what else they have

like 20 million in cap space yeah but okay even at this point if i'm the sabers i'm like it's a million bucks or don't show up because i don't care no he i think is worth more than that i think he might think he's worth more than that but if he was worth more than that he'd have got it i think he screwed up i think wherever he ends up he might have to sign for league men dude anton stralman just got a million from the bruins yeah but he's got a resume milano's got yeah milano's got and i'm not saying strong i'm not saying that was intelligently put into strawman i don't think that that was a no but would we have talked this vehemently about milano all summer if he hadn't scored that goal

he still scored 50 points yeah but he also scored one that was really good and that's why we talk about him will we be talking about merrick malik ever if he didn't would jack campbell have gotten the five-year contract if he hadn't won 12 games in a row uh to start a season well probably not probably not he probably isn't the leaf starter last year i think we have to give uh milano lope i think so i think so too and listen and and and it was an amazing goal and that's super cool there are very few players even in the league that can do that well and now like there's games teams are playing i know like i know he might be out of time well and this is what i'd be doing if i were him i'd be looking at teams like who needs scoring

up front i mean the sabers don't even look that bad you've got uh on the wings skinner jack quinn and the two top two left wings and then olsen and tuck on the right if he wants to go somewhere and play like the place is arizona like yeah you're a first liner there it's depressing right like the your options yeah what are your options it's so weird because i feel like he'd fit in well with the ducks but they're obviously not interested right or maybe they are just not at his price like i'm sure if it was 750 grand the tux will pay that buddy you're boned like it's if you were to listen to this that's what i'd tell them the the european leagues are like six weeks into their season nhl starting today half of the teams are barely cap compliant they're literally cap

compliant by like a happy meal some of them less um but yeah like like the vancouver canucks can't even order off the dollar menu at wendy's at this point if you sign for league minimum to play a league minimum one-way contract in the nhl you're lucky i don't think he's even gonna get that it's funny because we see these situations play out in july but by like the third week we see the free agent give in we saw with clingberg this year where he goes to the ducks because he's like i want a long extension and then three weeks pass and nobody gives it to him he's like fuck let me take this one year we saw with taylor hall who fuck it who's really screwed up his negotiations had to take that one year in buffalo and sunny milano nothing was sitting there and he never

kind of gave in like i don't know if anybody offered him whatever the million dollars but i assumed you have to assume right and he refused to take it he does this pto with calgary and he screwed himself like one dimension calgary's an odd one one dimensional guy who can score like dude there's tons of those guys like i i know i know it's i know it's uh it's points against him but it's not like those guys don't play in the league it's not like those guys aren't needed he will find a job somewhere too but here's here's what's put him behind the label too he was no no he'll play in the nhl this year but i think too you have to remember that he did play in training camp with calgary but every day that he's not practicing puts him behind the

of everybody else every day and not playing you know we you know william nylander ruined an entire season yeah he was awful that year well i think the leafs may have ruined that entire season because they finally offered him what he'd asked for three months previous there was some shit to go around the same contract he signed in december was the contract on the table in uh that he was asking for in september you don't have to we don't have to go there it was avoidable it was avoidable oh god the leafs this is very very annoying um quite leafy it's very weird that he's not in the league and i feel like when these situations happen it's a little bit it's a little bit of your ability but it's probably more of the decisions you made yeah uh that's the player

and or the agent that's you and your agent being you need to go back to the drawing board i would love to know alan's thoughts on and players like this that's a good question but i know that alan would never directly talk about another player uh or agent situation that's one of the things that's not his client and and and and that's because you know it's too present you know he can talk about stuff that happened in the past like the what was the guy that the czech guy that signed in tampa and like uh something seager uh zedano seager zedano seagers that story from last year was one of my favorite stories that he told i don't really want to play in the playoffs my back's hurting i like fishing yeah i like i want to play in minnesota because you guys aren't

very good yeah like sedano seager that's a story but like now alan i think alan would obviously respectfully be like that is someone else's business and i am not commenting on that ask him ask him what it's like for a player on a pto i think that's a great question i think that's a great question i'd love to know what it's like for a player on the pto um one thing that came out of the hockey canada stuff yesterday and you have to forgive us we didn't have a lot of time to digest it um it's it's week one of the season it's the first week we're doing three episodes and everything has happened right please have patience exactly exactly um and uh and anyway one of the things that i think a lot of people questioned afterwards and i think i should have

caught in the moment but i didn't is we talked about how the entire board has resigned and that there will be a committee taking over and the big problem from parliament's perspective because remember government agency is we don't know who these people are how are they being appointed uh how are they even going to be like are they going to be vetted are they people are they veterans from within the organization because that's a problem and then the other question and i didn't think about this but rick westhead brought it up on tsn this morning and i think it was really a super super rick westhead right just so adept you go off why didn't i think of that he scott smith during the hearings talked about scott smith now former ceo of hockey canada talked

about his executive um in terms of like his team surrounding him and how important it was and how he leaned on them and i'm not talking about the board i'm talking about employees at hockey canada and what's unclear right now is okay scott smith is gone but his entire team is probably still there and again that leads people to ask okay so how much change is there really going to be if the guy the figurehead might be gone but the guys that that that you know were a part of his team that held him up there that he led and taught and mentored are all still going to be there i think this was a little under spoken about and thought about is you know listen we all want to change we all want to change um but a lot of people and i don't think we ever suggested it

uh no one ever really suggested who should who should be there in his stead uh well because he he dug in for so long that it was impossible i was starting to make peace with okay i guess this isn't happening then uh but obviously now it is it's here the moment is here so who's gonna step up but who like literally who has the power to name a new ceo the whole board stepped down that's it's fascinating and if and if it's not like if if i don't know how hockey canada would still be allowed to do that like how is sport canada not stepped in and said no you can't sorry no your privilege is revoked world junior camp typically opens in like six seven weeks yeah who the oh who's in charge of any well they're gonna elect a new board in eight weeks

so that'll happen quite soon that's yeah so that's mid-december yeah yeah the world juniors start like a week and a half after that yeah you ready it'll be funny when they're all out there in t-shirts made by sdpn or something because nike doesn't pulled out if we had the money to sponsor hockey canada we would not be sponsoring hockey canada in its current form but yes but if they change themselves and and there was real progress because i what i respect is tim morton saying listen glad that they're stepping down but until we see real progress you guys can fly a kite no way we're not getting involved i get it right well who would put the money towards that yeah and i know i like i don't know if you know non-canadians look at that and

goes you know who the hell cares what tim hortons think you don't understand the sponsors that have pulled out have been there forever and they're in this country in terms of ad dollars they are heavy heavy hitters nike i mean well it's akin to starbucks yeah tim hortons if starbucks was an nfl sponsor that's what tim horton's being a hockey canada sponsor it's a massive massive deal canadian tire is freaking enormous so the idea that all these partners that hockey canada has had for decades i assume uh have pulled out and really don't seem like they're going to be back anytime soon because these changes i think are going to take some time it's a big big deal yeah And the last question people will have, and then I'll move off the subject, is Scott Smith and the entire board resigned. What does their payout look like? And people are like, well, what, if any, payout did they get? Guys, I'm going to tell you at 99.99999%, they got a payout. And I'm going to bet that in a lot of cases, the payout is worth multiple years. So in some cases, these could be seven-figure payouts.

and i just want you to be prepared to be pissed because unfortunately that's par for the course uh and they signed a contract and they have to keep to that contract as icky is that it so they had what was it 8.9 million in settlements so maybe maybe they'll take from the second settlement fund and pay out the board there was a lot of debate around uh them refusing to step down because it might have been tied to some more payout money if they had just gotten fired they might have had more money so that's why they were so adamant about not stepping down but nobody really knows the details of whether they still get some payout money like that amount we will find out themselves yeah it's government money we should all know it will come out so it's messy