The Steve Dangle Podcast - Windsock | May 14, 2018

Episode Date: May 15, 2018

On this episode, head to leovegas.net to enter to win! (00:00), the Jets & Golden Knights (08:00), the lightning & Caps (22:00), Babcock said things at the World Championships (37:00), and the press conference: bread, olympics, and ADAM IS BACK WITH HIS HOT MOVIES TAKES (57:00). Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/3WSjPaHFwO8 Merch: https://teespring.com/en-GB/stores/fancydangleshirts Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Subscribe to us on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/steve-dangle-podcast/id669828195?mt=2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Panago Pizza presents S.D.P. The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde. If I were to ask, would you be interested in playing hockey with some alumni? Would you be interested in playing hockey with some alumni? NHL alumni? No, probably not. They wouldn't be CFL alumni. No. No way.

No. Okay. What if? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, what if those people included Matt Sundin? Whoa. Like, you got to play on a line with Matt Sundin.

Do I got to go to Sweden? No, you don't. He's here. He's coming to you. He's coming here. He's coming to me. Yeah. He's going to play in Oshawa.

Yeah. Yeah, Noel, I mean Toronto. Oh, okay. Yeah, like, he's going to come to, like, an actual city. Wow! Wow! Incorrect. I am kidding.

I don't think you are. Joining you on this team would be Ty Domi, Curtis Joseph, and Thomas Cabriolet. Okay, very good, very good. and you would be treated with a welcome reception, a Hall of Fame VIP tour hosted by Glenn Healy and Matt Sundin, tickets to a private event at Wayne Gretzky Estates, a private meet and greet with Matt

alongside other LeoVegas.net winners, private event at Wayne Gretzky's restaurant, you get a lunch with all the alumni afterwards. Pierogies. A $1,500 flight voucher to Toronto for the winner and guest. I would take that from Oshawa. That's a lot of flights from Oshawa.

You should take a flight from Oshawa. a $500 visa card to spend while you're here hotel accommodations in Toronto from June 7th to 10th transportation to and from the hotel

obviously from you know from the airport and you get hockey gear rental if you need and of course a commemorative signed

photo with Matt Sundin would you be interested in all that stuff but like what do I get I'm sorry I just wanted to see if you could do it again

so here's the deal we on the show along with many many others have partnered with leovegas.net they are a gaming website, and they are one of those places that they want to give you a crazy

experience, and somehow they've pulled Matt Sundin out of hiding. I don't know how they did it, but they got him, and we are going to be there on that weekend as well, so we're going to be doing a whole bunch of live stuff and whatever. But right now, it's about you winning the contest. Where is this? Toronto.

What do you get? I'm looking at all the information right now. What do you get? I just went through all the things that you get. You know what I like making Adam do? All the important broadcaster stuff and then completely steamrolling it. Yes, that is my favorite part of the show. So what is, Gary Roberts is doing this? Who did you say?

I said Ty Domi, Matt Sundin, Thomas Caberlein, Curtis Joseph, and others to be released. All right, Dion Phaneuf is going to be at this thing, like you said. You said that verbatim. No, I did not say that Dion Phaneuf is going to be there. All right, so what weekend is this? This is the June 7th through 10th. Did you say that already? I don't think you did.

Yes, I did say that. I think I'm open. You know, had you been listening? I think I'm open. Had you guys been listening? I'm just saying. And then how do you get into this contest? Well, here's the problem.

I'm going to insert this after in an edit because they gave me all the information and I'm looking at the sheet and I'm going, wait a second, they have not told me how to enter. So you'll see the edit point right here. And that's how you enter. Wow. I learned a lot. Isn't it crazy? What's that?

You actually don't know. Well, there's a specific URL that you have to go to, but they gave me the breakdown of all the things that they wanted me to say, and then they didn't say how you can enter. So. You know what's amazing? Adam doesn't know right now, but you watching this, you do know. You already know, but I don't know, but I knew, but I don't know.

But you don't know. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy. Steve Dangle. Yes. Are you excited for this weekend? Because we're going to be there too. A little bit.

A little bit? I'm excited to see Matt's. Yeah, we're going to talk to him. That's a thing that, you know, you start crossing off players who you want to talk to, and I've been blessed enough to talk to a lot of guys. Matt Sundin was a guy I never thought I would get to meet because he's never here. Well, and part of this deal is we get to interview him. Absolutely.

Positively. So actually, something I wanted to start, too, on our Reddit page, hashtag AskMats. Can I tell everybody how to enter and when so I don't have to edit this? Sure. Yeah, whatever, man. All right. So, June 7th to 10th at the Delta Toronto Hotel, you can play hockey with all of those wonderful people that I'm saying.

How do you enter though, Jesse? And if you want to enter, you go to leovegas.net slash promotions, and that'll take you right to the page. There you go. Or, if you go to leovegas.net, it's right there, and then you hit the link that's next to Matt's face, and then right there, there's all the information on what you're going to win, and then you hit enter here, which I'm doing right now, and all you have to do is enter your

full name, and then your email address, and then your mobile phone, and then you hit... Ah, Jesse's playing on his keyboard right now. And then you confirm that you are 19 years of age. At least. And then you hit submit. And Jesse is the cat from Instagram that's typing?

Or the gift cat? No, I was actually typing when I was doing all those things. That's how I type. Just to confirm, I have all the details. Leo Komarov has been traded to Vegas. No. And... No. And they also sent a net. And they sent a net. A Leo Vegas net.

You know how they say a bag of pucks? Well, where are you going to put that bag of pucks? A net. If Leo Komarov signs in Las Vegas next year and he scores a goal, that's leovegas.net, is it not? A little bit. A little bit. I can't wait for that to happen now.

Now we have to cheer for Leo to end up in Vegas so he can score a goal and be leovegas.net. Yes. I'm just saying. Yeah. I'm going to make Adam go home. We got lots of stuff coming up from this that's super exciting that we'll kind of release.

And by the way, as more NHL alumni are released, we will tell you more about those NHL alumni. We'll tell you who's getting involved and that sort of thing. Did you just but wait? There's more of us? I did. I did. So also, I wanted to start this. I was going to talk about this.

Hashtag Ask Matt. So we're going to start a thread on our Reddit page after the show. We want you to tell us the question that you most would like to ask Matt. Now, if somebody else has a question there that's similar to yours, I'd ask that you maybe upvote their question. That's a great suggestion to see no one use that now. And it's not going to happen. So basically, we're going to pick three of the questions, and Matt's might just answer one.

Why do you wear the number 13? Followed by, I've always wanted to know why you wear the number 13. Five upvotes. Six upvotes. Love it. So yeah. Ask Matt. Something fun.

Hashtag Ask Matt's on the Steve Dangle Reddit page. Steve Dangle. Yes. You wanted to take the actual, you wanted to take us in a direction. Well, no, I forgot that we had to do this off the top, and I was like, oh, I got a jovial little thing that happened to me on the way here. Let's hear about it. I don't know.

Okay, so I get in the car after getting some coffee, and I'm starting to program my music in the parking lot because I don't want to do that while driving because it's illegal. And these two girls, I hear them outside of my car, and I see them. They're pointing at me. They're pointing at me and they're like waving at me and then they're giving me this they're giving me the the pinky and the thumb And they're the gnarly and yeah, but they're holding it up to their mouth which in

Road rage terms means what are you drunk? And so I'm that you're parked. Yeah I was like I thought they were like you got your drink on top of your car Which is what they were trying to tell you Said thank you ladies, and then I put it in my car and came here It would have been so much better if you'd been like, yeah, gnarly dudes, and then like... Yeah, gnarly dudes!

That's where I thought it was going. I hoped it was. Brown coffee all over the windshield and just cool. Steve did fumble picking up his coffee as we were getting out of his car today. Oh, and then I did end up dropping it on my lap. Yeah, he did drop it. Oh, so it's very wet?

That particular coffee was meant to be dropped. It was only a little. I drank most of it. He basically, he picked it up and went, oh, little bit, little bit, little bit. And that's, and then... Is it gone now? Oh, it's gone.

I drank it. I drank it. I am fully caffeinated. Also, should we point out my old man pillow that I have behind me right now? All the listeners will know that you have a pillow there. That he has a pillow behind there. Now they do. Glad that you pointed that out.

Can we talk about the J-E-T-S Jets, Jets, Jets? Yeah, sure. Can we talk about the fact that they are, I know. Can we talk about the fact that they are up 1-0? They are three wins away from the Stanley Cup. What? In the series, Steve. I thought it was 2-0 in the series.

No, they've literally only played one game on Saturday. Oh, no, wait, sorry, it's the Caps. My bad. My bad, lost track. My bad, my bad. No, but the Jets beat them so bad that I thought it was 2-0. You see? You see?

I got you, I got you. With a little help from the referees, apparently. Well, that's okay. So do we think that? Is that what we think? Ah, no. What was the final score? What was the final score of that game?

I know the Jets were up 3-0. 4-2. Okay, well, maybe then. Maybe. Because we were just talking on the way in. You know, I was catching up. I was doing a little bit of catch up I forget the name of the term

Anyway, I was catching up Doing a little bit of catch up seemed fine to me A little bit of catch up and then I ruined it It's going well The goalie interference challenge on the 3-0 goal The goalie interference challenge on the 3-0 goal I thought it was 2-0

It was on the 3-0 goal I thought it should have been 2-0 Adam because I don't think it should have counted Why? because we've seen that goal happen many times and it wasn't a goal i asked on twitter i go can we get that goal next to the zach hyman no goal from i think it was game five against boston please please can we get that so joel armia is going through the crease he's well in the blue paint every inch of him is in the blue paint and he put himself there there's a little bit of jostling in

front of the net but he wasn't like in the white paint shoved into the blue he put himself there the uh the pass goes into the slot goes into the crease off his skate and in while he's making contact with Marc-Andre Fleury now Craig Simpson I think it was on the broadcast made a great point where he said I actually think that should be a goal like he said it should he doesn't understand why the rules say that shouldn't count. But he said repeatedly, there's no way they're going to...

So he believes it's a hockey goal, but he also believes that the rules would state that it isn't. Yeah, so the ref like emphatically, no goal, no goal, right away, right away. And so there needs to be conclusive evidence, which that's gone, by the way. Is that done?

Where the ref's call is a tie break? I feel like that's totally done. I thought it now all rested on that one, one or two people that are in, that are in Toronto. So then it's literally done. But no, it was a four or five minute review, and they said it was a good goal. And I go, just to make it all fair, there was the call that went against the Leafs,

the Zach Hyman goal, and it looked pretty much the same to me. And then there was the call that went in the Leafs' favor, the Brian Dumoulin goal, when the Leafs were running the Penguins show, and the Penguins ended up almost coming back, and they could have come back had this Brian Dumoulin goal counted. It was just guys going through the crease. They make incidental contact and two of them weren't a goal

and this one was. And I guess I don't understand. What I was talking about with I'm trying to remember if it was the controversial Austin Matthews no goal. Yes, it was. Because that was Bernier and Nett.

And the whole issue was Yes, there was contact being made with him But he had no chance of making the save He didn't even know where the puck was He didn't know He had no chance of making the save I don't remember where I was going with that Sorry

I completely lost track Well, I mean, you were talking about Dumoulin You were talking about Bernier You were talking about goals that should count Where was I going with that? I don't know I honestly don't remember That's cool, man

That's great No, that's awesome You seemed like you were winding up for something good I know, and I completely spaced I completely spaced Wow I've actually I don't know where I am right now

It wasn't So what you're saying is A goal By rule Yeah I think it should Absolutely Be a goal But by rule

Hell no Hell no Based on precedent This season Based on the Matthews no goal The Hyman no goal And the Dumoulin no goal There's no way that's a goal

Maybe that's a goal Okay but Then you can't be upset at it Because Sure you can They got the hockey No Play correct

Get the rules Get the rules correct You kind of throw out all the rules in the playoffs. But then you shouldn't. No. Now we get back to hockey's stupid. Yes. We all know that.

And so am I because I space. There's no rules in the playoffs. Two goalies in net. Yep. Why not? The puck is a hot dog. What is the difference? The Penguins would have won.

The puck is a hot dog. Do you put Phil Kessel in net? Would they win? Maybe. How is Matt Murray at forward? I don't know. So you can't be upset at the end result. Where I can enforce the rules.

So are you on the side of, hey, this is an important game. Let's lean on the hockey call instead of let's go and actually play by the rules. Which side do you follow? I follow this is still the 17-18 season. And in the 17-18 season, that's not a goal. So you think they should have just foregone the correct logic, the logical thing where it's a goal because it's a hockey goal, and just call it by the book?

You know, we've already changed one rule of mid-season because of Brad Marchand. So, yeah, I guess you're right. Why not? I mean, ultimately, no, you can't get that mad. Like, I don't care. And if that is a goal next year going forward for every team, great. But this season, it's not a goal. The problem is, I get what you're saying, it's the inconsistency.

Buffalo Sabres fans will tell you hmm this seems familiar dude your toe nail is you breathe in the crease in 99 it's no goal if your foot is anywhere near the blue paint it's not a goal

and they did that all season long they just didn't want to pick the confetti up off the ice that's the reason the they picked one goal that season where they're like and that one's fine and it was the Stanley Cup deciding goal I don't know why we always have the discussion where we go, imagine if it decides the cup.

Happened! Less than 20 years ago! Don Cherry actually said, and I remember this, in like the second round, he said, this rule is so stupid that just because this is going to happen, it will be the Stanley Cup winning goal, and they'll have to decide what to do. And he's absolutely right. Buffalo would have to

come back and win Game 7, and they wouldn't have done that. How do you know? I know. They're Buffalo. Oh, you know what? Jesse, fair point, but that one goal shouldn't have counted. I don't know. You know what I mean?

It shouldn't have counted. It would have just prolonged the game. Yes. But you are right. Hasek was unbelievable that year, though. And he had just come off winning a gold medal the year before. Yeah. He was unbelievable.

Imagine if they enforced the rules. Now, Jets fans who think I'm just picking on the Jets. No, you're picking on the NHL. Well, the James Neal and Toby Enstrom, the hit, they kept calling it clean over and over again. and I'm looking at the hit and I'm like neither of his skates

are on the ice before he makes contact he flew into that hit and he completely smashed him it's I mean it's it was close to clean but it wasn't clean

I think I think the reason we're not all in an uproar about it is because he didn't make contact with the head right but Enstrom

I think did he miss the rest of the game he was hurt he was definitely winded well I didn't know it makes you kind of wonder how

going into next I think any game in the playoffs is pivotal, but I think really game two here is going to be pivotal. I think it's going to really decide how the rest of the series goes because game one, you can have a bad game. In fact, you can have a bad game too. Look at what Washington did in the first round against Columbus. But I feel like we're really going to get a sense of

where Vegas stands against the Jets. And it should be, by logic, nowhere. But we've said that against the entire NHL this year, and here they are. So we'll see. But 4-2 is not a huge – I mean, Vegas scored a couple, made it close. I wonder if Vegas doesn't come out here and sneak game two away. Well, and if they do, then it's the Jets who are in trouble, right?

Because they're the ones with home ice advantage. You know, you win game one at home, well, yeah, you're supposed to. Now game two, you need to go into Vegas, I think, with a 2-0 lead. The Jets are the juggernaut, man. They can do it. That's a scary team. They're so scary. In the conference final with a 2-0 lead, since they have the conference format, are 39-2.

Who are the two? I don't know. I don't know who those two chokers are. Wow. And teams on the road, this is for the Caps fans, teams on the road who take a 2-0 lead in the conference finals are 12-0. Oh my god, they're going to lose now. So they can either be the one or they just keep up history. We'll see.

That's amazing. I liked Sid's little theory about how basically there's nothing else on Ovechkin's mind except for this Stanley Cup race because of the – what was his logic again? It was something about the Olympics. Yeah, because he related it to Russia winning the Olympics and him not being there. So now this is just all his focus. Yeah, it bugged him. That was it.

They finally win and he wasn't there. They finally win and he wasn't there for it. I forgot they won. Yeah. That's how little attention I paid. Who did they beat? No idea. Who did they beat?

Germany. Who eliminated Canada, right? Yeah, yeah. I think so. But I don't remember or care. But I think he's right. I think Ovechkin's just playing free and I think he's just loose and it looks like he's having fun,

even though it's like the highest pressure situation he's ever been in his entire life. But he's just goofy Ovi and it's awesome. Dimitri Filipovich, I think, tweeted, maybe it was Nicholas Backstrom holding him back all these years. Man, that's another thing. Tampa has got to feel super screwed. Not only did you lose both of your first two games at home, dude, it's like when the Leafs, oh, I hate to bring it back.

When Bergeron wasn't in. That was the moment. You're back. You're back in the series. Oh, crying out loud. That was your moment. You tied the damn thing up 2-2. probably win the series dude

the Washington series is shocking because it really is shocking because Tampa you can forgive one bad game but two bad games well and Tampa or are they that bad

or is Washington just playing them really well you know we're talking about these controversial goals Tampa took the lead over some shenanigans again they're shenanigans the puck comes from behind the net

hits Victor Hedman in the face he tried to catch it completely whiffed and I think it was TJ Oshie getting the two minutes for high-sticking call. Dude, what I don't understand is the broadcast knew it was the wrong call 10 seconds after it happened, 15 seconds after it happened. We're not slowing the game down. You skate over to the table and go, hey, was I wrong on that?

And they go, yes, for sure. We're not talking about was that actually slashing. was that actually hooking. It's as simple, he wasn't hit by the stick. I think that's a dangerous territory if you start doing that with penalties. Because then everybody's like, oh, if you just look at the TV

and then you go back and you change everything. I don't know. Well, Jesse, what we talked about with the Joel Armia goal is, do we want to get it right? Do we want to have the result that is the true result? But do we want the TV affecting penalty calls?

that are subjective there's no subjective about it he wasn't hit by the stick yeah but that's that's such a rare instance I think if you

if you implement it it actually it happened to Hedman earlier this year it did you remember when he it was

I'm trying to remember who it was yeah I don't know it's happened to the Leafs at least three or four times over the past two seasons and one time

it did get reversed actually oh yeah remember I'm trying to remember it might have even been against the Lightning it was either Matt Hunwick

Roman Polak there was they got a high sticking call I think it was even a four minute high sticking call because the guy was bleeding it wasn't their stick it was someone else's stay I want to say it was Unwick or was it Polak it was one of those two it was one of those two and they reversed it why they saw footage and knew it was the wrong call oh you know what it was they look right up at the jumbotron so you know what I think if your home video crew is on the ball enough that should be like

part of it like no okay you gotta get the footage up on the screen fast enough and oh and the ref sees it no call so it was

all but it was in Tampa last round April 30th that's last round right or that's not the regular season April 30th no no dude that was last round

yeah that's last round so last round it's like two weeks ago yeah Hedman hit his own stick in his face and it looked like Pasternak's stick came up and he got four minutes

it was four minutes yeah That was the other incident. That's a shame. That happens all the time. I think that happened with Rick Nash in Toronto, in the Toronto series too. Like I think he, I know Toronto sold calls too,

but he sold a call right up the river and the ref bought, bought, bought, bought, bought. It was amazing. Boston was complaining about calls in the Toronto series and we're like, oh really? And then Boston goes into the Tampa series and they complain about those calls and we go, oh really?

and now I saw a sign that was two Tampa fans holding up it was like an iPhone and it said miss call, miss call, miss call ref, miss call, miss call against the Caps

and Boston fans are like you gotta be kidding me well everybody's got their everybody thinks that they're getting screwed whoever wins this series based on the sign it's gonna be the Caps that win this series

and then they're gonna go and complain whoever yeah, whoever wins the Western Conference and they're gonna be like what? You're joking. It's going to be great. Can't wait. Do you think Washington really has

what it takes to close this series down? Dude, yes. Or is this going to be a Columbus versus Washington? Definitely could be. Where is Tampa? Where is Tampa? Yeah, they haven't shown up yet. It's weird.

But, well, it's not weird though because I think this is what happens as deep as you go in the playoffs. Remember Tyler Johnson was unbelievable and then it was like where's Tyler Johnson oh broken wrist

you know the Canucks in 2011 Ryan Kessler beats Nashville on his own in the second round finals come where's Ryan Kessler

half dead you know where's Patrice Bergeron punctured lung you know I bet there's crazy things going up and down

that roster that we don't know about they just played Boston you know who knows who knows you get stick somewhere you fall awkwardly

Someone licks you. Someone licks you. You get the herps. Wow. Wow. Not that you're naming names or anything. No, no, never. Allegedly.

Jesse Blake, who said that? I can't believe. Adam Wilde did not say that. Did not say that. Adam sounds six inches taller. Wow. That's crazy. No, but it's the playoffs.

If you're in the third round and you're like, but where'd they go? they just disappeared out of nowhere well odds are it's injuries it might be the long layoff never might be

but I I don't know I gotta imagine I feel bad for Adam when your second favorite team doesn't show up yeah I know man this is a tough playoff

I've actually been like sort of rooting for Washington though cause it's kinda like how do you not how do you not cheer for that cause it's kinda funny but also if they do choke

it would be the first time ever they finally make it oh if the Caps first time in like 20 years and it would be the first time ever yeah for a team

up 2-0 in the conference finals on the road. They would be the first team to ever choke. Unbelievable. And also, where's Tampa? I mean, Vasilevsky scored on himself. It's also a little bit of bad luck. Pete Blackburn had a great tweet about how this is an NHL 18 goal where the goalie tries to

stick poke and it goes in on himself. And it was so true. And you throw the controller on the screen. So true. Absolutely. It's just fascinating to me that Washington could be up like this. There's no way in ever... I, at most, I'd be like 1-1.

Has to be 1-1. At most. Like, again, talking before the series, and I think I even said, because the Capitals were kicking the crap out of Tampa, and, like, mid that game, knowing they were losing, Jesse and I were still like, nah, the Caps are losing this, Tampa's winning.

You're the only one who I think said, you said Caps Vegas. You're Mr. Fun. Yeah, I did want that. We're the party poopers over here who are like, no, the two better teams are going to win. Logic. Oh, sports guys.

I guess trusted hockey sportsmen. So far, we're wrong. Trusted prediction men. So far, we're wrong. By the way, I am not that. One thing that the Cavs have had consistently over their playoff runs, which is kind of shocking because they keep losing, but Brayden Holtby has been amazing in the last five playoffs.

He went 9-22, 9-44, 9-42, and then last year he kind of slipped because of all those crazy games or it's the least. He was a 9-0-9, and this year he's a 9-26. And yet, people were saying after last year, oh, I think it's time

to question Braden Holtby. And he got pulled twice already? He didn't play? Dude, he, like, the back half of the season, he practically lost his job. He wasn't the starter. To Philip Grubauer.

But he's been amazing in the playoffs. That's crazy. And I think a few podcasts ago, we were like, man, if you have a 9-40 goalie, you know, how do you get eliminated?

Dude, Braden Holtby was 9-40 plus back-to-back years. And the Cavs got eliminated by the Penguins. That's nuts. And they had... That's nuts. Well, last year,

I mean, game seven, Caps got friggin' shut out. They were stacked. Yep. They've been stacked for, like, years. And it's finally coming together

and it's kind of cool. Wow. It is cool to watch. It definitely is. But you never know. It shows you the randomness of hockey, too, right? But I also,

I truly believe they're playing without pressure. I keep saying it every episode. They're just having fun now. I feel bad that the Caps have to play with the pressure

of, like, okay, they have no pressure, but maybe fans I guess have to live with the pressure of this has literally never happened before. Like, if Tampa were to come back. They made the finals, though. But, no, no. It's never happened before that a team has come back from

this. But, if you were to tell me Tampa came back from this, I'd be like, yeah. It wouldn't even shock me. It wouldn't even surprise me. They were the favorite going in, and hockey's been kind of nuts this year. Yeah, it has. It's been a weird year. It's an understatement when the expansion team is in the conference finals.

Yeah, yeah, really. It's unbelievable. Yeah, it's a whack here. You know what's interesting? I was thinking about this the other day, and everybody talks about legacy, especially when it comes to LeBron. They talk about LeBron's legacy. Well, is he better than Michael Jordan?

He's got more points, more assists, more this, more that, more that, more points in getting in the playoffs, more finals appearance, whatever. But he doesn't have six championships like Michael. He's only got three. He's been in the championship games seven years running, and he's a few games away from doing it again. Which is insane But with Ovechkin

Kind of like with LeBron There's this And Phil Mickelson had this for years in golf But more on the team game side It's almost like the entire city of Washington The fans and the rest of the players That have played on the team Carry the fact that he hasn't won the cup

As their pressure point Do you know what I mean? Would the Caps really have this much pressure on them if Ovechkin wasn't playing it was more by committee look at look at Nashville Nashville does not have

an Alexander Ovechkin they've got a lot of great players yes but they don't have one of those generational Sidney Crosby

one year Alexander Ovechkin the next year draft picks and you could argue Subban they usually get to

the second round you could argue Subban but he's not a forward yeah and nobody's looking at Subban and going

well he won't be great for some reason nobody's looking at Subban and going he's well he's not great because he's never won a cup

Subban isn't to defensemen what Ovechkin is to forwards. Fair. Or wingers. Does that make sense? Yeah. He's perennial all-star, but he's not first ballot

Hall of Famer like Ovechkin. Right. Which I think is what you're saying. I think so. I mean, he might be one day. It depends on his class, but I feel like... See, there's no might with Ovechkin.

Yeah, no, he is. He is. And he's scoring at an unbelievable rate. I just find it funny that the entire city of Washington for years has carried his burden of

he's really great, so he better win a cup Otherwise, we won't really consider him great anymore. I find that really funny. And I feel like it's a bit strange that there's this odd thing that's developed. Like Marcel Dion, another guy, great hockey player who never won a cup. Marcel Dion, back in the day too when, you know, nobody's watching a Los Angeles Kings national game because it didn't exist. You know, you can argue that both of those things worked against him.

but I doubt very much that anybody would say Marcel Dion was not a great first-ballot NHL-er, or Hall of Famer, that is, because he never won a cup. But people will make that argument in this day and age about Alexander Ovechkin, and I find that very strange. I think there's a bit of a Sid factor. Right. A bit of a Penguins factor. I mean, your number one rival.

And by the way, completely made up. Completely made up, but it was marketed that way for the better part of a decade. Sid vs. Ovi, Sid vs. Ovi, Sid vs. Ovi And we're like a decade and a half into it now And it's Sid 3, Ovi 0 Which is totally unfair And there's a thousand other ways to look at it But most fans, I think most casual fans

Will look at it as 3-0 I was thinking about if the Capitals win Penguins fans can still go, yeah, well, 3-1 They will And they will They absolutely will And they will and it won't take the cup away from the Caps

and it won't make it so that the Caps didn't eliminate the Penguins this year. But it is what they'll say. And some, there's some right now going, I would never, who me? I would never be so indignant on Twitter.com. No, but that's how they'll always be compared. If, like, let's say the Montreal Canadiens, for example, or the Ottawa Senators, more realistic,

They just went to the conference final last year. The Senators put together a run. Wait, who was the first team you said? Montreal Canadiens. I think it's way more real than the Canadiens at this point. Canadiens, well, because they've had, eh, either of them. They've both been deep in relatively recent memory. If they put together a run where they win cups,

there's going to be a comparison to the Leafs a little bit. It's a little different because the Leafs have sucked for so long. That's why I hope Montreal and Ottawa continue to be as dysfunctional as they have been so we don't have to worry about that. There's no real parallel for the Leafs, so it's difficult, but with Washington and Pittsburgh, it was two players whose legacies were permanently married to each other. Back-to-back years drafted.

Sid Ovechkin, rookie years the same year, though. And Ovi wins. First overall, second overall, Ovi wins. So that was the win in year one. Neither team makes the playoffs. You're tied there. Who won the Calder? Ovi, point Ovi.

Ovi wins the rookie year. Crosby, maybe, I think he maybe had some records or whatever. Point Ovi first year. Who made the playoffs first? I think they both made the playoffs same year. Who won the series first? I think it was Ovi. Point Ovi.

Penguins make it to the Stanley Cup Final first. All right. But they lose. But they lose. So some of you will look at that as a tie. Some of you will look at it as point Penguins. The second the Penguins win the Cup, the scoreboard is wiped. Wipe the entire thing clean.

It's 1-0 Crosby. No matter what points, whatever you were looking at before, it's 1-0. And then they start playing each other in the playoffs. The Leafs never had that. The closest thing is you could argue McDavid. You could argue Line A. People are trying to make something out of that. I don't really feel like there's anything.

You know what? How do you compare Sid and Ovi, really? They play different positions. But it was Sid and Ovi. if you tell people it's Sid versus Ovi for long enough they start to believe it

and I mean in sports dude if we started this podcast in 05-06 that's what we would've been paying attention to

yep Sid versus Ovi and then the next year in 06-07 yeah jeez how's Alex Steen doing Crosby did make the playoffs

before Ovi just so just correct your timeline 1-0 already he was already up 1-0 you know it's

yeah who's gonna get to the hall first. I think they get one the same year. One retires before the other. Are they going to be able to retire in different years?

I don't think they're allowed. I don't think the universe will allow it. I don't care if one's older than the other. The universe will not allow one to retire before the other. They got to retire

same year, same night against each other. Whoa. Whoever's making the schedule in like 2027.

Whenever they decide. Yeah. Better be ready. That's weird. We're less than 10 years away. We're less than a decade away, I think, from the end of those two. This might be, this could be like the peak pinnacle couple years and that's it. And then they might go down.

Who knows? Do they still feel new? Or do they feel old? Those guys? Mid. I feel that, I think they're mid. No, they're old. They're 30, right?

No, they're old. There's no way they're old. Look at the gray hair on Ovechkin. He does have gray hair. He actually, he's getting better with age, that guy. He's figured out his hair finally. Well, he became a student of the game. But even Cavs fans can...

Ovi had bad hair for a while. The gray is wisdom. But he has cleaned it up, and man, I was like, wow, handsome dude. Also, I think across pro sports, once you hit 30, you're on the old side. Totally. And he's what, 31? 32. 32, and Crosby's 31, 30?

I think he's going to turn 31. Yeah. He's about to turn 31 in August. You could say they're on the downside. More than a decade in, yeah, yeah, it's coming to an end. He was born on 8-7-8-7. Was he really? The universe is ridiculous.

Yeah, August 7th, 1987. And that's why his number is 87? Mm-hmm. Oh, okay. And look at his cap hit. No, what if the number came first? What if he was 87 before he was born? He was born with a scar like...

He had a scar like Harry Potter. Harry Potter was not born with it. I'm sorry. Maybe it's maybe. Very important. I don't know. I'm glad you read those books now because those references are coming in hot and heavy.

Oh, I love them. I love him I just SL's still not done and so I'm like talking to her friends like behind her back what did you think

of Azkaban and she needs to finish she needs to finish that's ridiculous Jesse what no I was gonna ask a fantasy question

but it doesn't matter I was gonna say what if you swapped Backstrom and Malkin at some point dude we did that yeah we did that we literally did that

we did that oh okay yeah there's a YouTube video you can go watch it yeah oh our discussion last show, I think it was, of

who gets the cup first on each team and who passes it to, I made an article out of it today. I saw it. It was very nice. So with Vegas, Vegas is the only one that's like weird because they don't have a captain. So I want to expand on what I said. I want it to be Derek Englund first,

Marc-Andre Fleury second, then they pass it to Gerard Gallant third. Oh, Florida, just turn the knife. You know what would be great? And then Tom Paraschka. Is if they brought a taxi to the arena and drove it on the ice and then had Gerard Gallant drive around the ice on it.

Gary Bedman gets out. Or just paint one of the Zambonis like a taxi and then just go around the ice with the, you know, Vegas is at home and they've won the cup and it's Gerard Gallant going around in a taxi. Man, that would have been... With a wild cat on the

roof. That would have been such a good gimmick if the Jets lost and the Preds won. Because the Preds always have the smash car. out front dude make it a cab oh that would've been funny I'm sure

it's a smash jet right now oh it's a smash jet yeah they swapped that it wasn't a jet it was like a thrash plane and they put the thrashers

logo on it yeah they've been smashing it it's pretty awesome they could've got creative they could've got a cab oh that would've been great well

say love you sorry Nashville Winnipeg deserved to beat them I mean jeez I watched game 7 they were not it wasn't close

no it wasn't so another thing that happened and it was released today and it was at the other network. But Mike Babcock had a big sit-down. Yeah, I want to ask about that. A few things came up.

Are his legs okay? Mike's legs? Yeah, during his big sit-down. Sounds like it hurts. Well, it was no small sit-down, that's for sure. Sitting down does hurt. Especially if it's a big one. He also was wearing shorts and tanning his legs,

which I thought was great. Of course. Shorts and sandals. They had their Humboldt ribbons on. Did you know that Mike Babcock is into health? Might be just a little bit. every second presser. He's drenched in sweat, and he's just been running around the

Urbana Center, almost bowled you over that one time. Takes a sip of his coconut water, you know, because electrolytes, and what's that? What's next? He's in health, for sure. He's also into, he wants the Leafs management to stay together. He's talking about Detroit, and they were talking about a conversation that he had with

whether or not to keep Hasek. He wants Lou Amorello to stay, he wants Mark Hunter to stay, he has a lot of respect for Kyle Dubas. I think it was kind of important for him to come out with that, so all this shenaniganery about Mike Babcock will never talk to Kyle Dubas.

He was talking to him basically every day. Yeah. Now... No, that's weird, right? Yeah, that'd be weird. Coach talking to management. Yeah, really.

Weird. He also said he and Matthews had a really great meeting at Austin's house, and he said that he probably wouldn't have gone there if the media

hadn't made something out of it. And, you know, Nick Kiprios did cause a storm when he said it. And he said, you know what, I would have probably

just gone out for a beer with him and got a coffee but he's like it was good to go to his house I got a really nice glass of wine

we talked like he was great and Friedman made a great point in 31 Thoughts two days ago I think it was it was very recent

yeah he said that there was another player who was in a similar situation and the coach was like okay I'm gonna

let it breathe and by the time he had reached out to the player it was too late because all in his head he was just reading

all the media stuff and it just it just festered and he was like by the time he got to him he was like the relationship's done

So he was like, he was congratulating Babcock and being like, taking the initiative and going down there and talking to Matthew. Matthew's so quick. I thought that was a great point by Friedman. The thing is, is that when you're alone and you're stewing on something, you start to come up with crazy ass ideas. Exactly. Yes. Yes. And you start to resent people.

I've done it enough times. Man, I tweeted about it last week. You're having an argument? Dude, yeah, I burned my lunch because I was having a hypothetical argument with someone I've never met. It was all just in your head. It was all in my head. Let me guess. all the things they said

were never said let me guess let me guess Twitter oh you bet you bet you bet and someone tweeted me

they're like oh man they got in your head and I'm like no they don't know that I'm even having this discussion

no and also I was remembering something that they said like literally years ago and I burned my lunch because I was so what were you making

I don't remember it was burned wow so I couldn't eat it wow I was just staring at the stove you ever look at something but not look at something yep

just staring at the stove it happens in this room regularly I get that stare all the time so Leo Komarov is going to Vegas to pop one in the net leobegas.net and also that goal in Winnipeg, Vegas

Colorado, Toronto, Matthews what was I talking about I'm so embarrassed I did that so that was an interesting kind of thing But, you know, Mike Babcock did make reference to the fact that, you know, that, you know, Darren Drager said, like, listen, there's defensive issues and whatever. And Mike said, well, we've got, quote, what's more coming, I believe, in reference to the D. But nothing announced yet.

Reference to D. More coming. Referencing the D. The D. Mark is coming. So, basically, they're going to sign some free agents out of, it seems like, free agents out of Europe. As they should.

Market inefficiency, whatever. But what I don't hear, and Mike Babcock, when he's going somewhere, he usually kind of hints at something. Like, he'll normally, like, I feel like if they were going to make a big splash or if that was part of the plan, he'd be like, well, we're going to take a big dip this summer and see what we can do. We're going to take a swing. For such a secretive organization, like, since coming to the Leafs.

He's pretty open. There's no, Mike Babcock is not subtle. No, he clubs you over the head with information on what he wants. And people are like, ooh, ah, I wonder what he means. Yeah. And it's pretty much what he says. It's like Shakespeare going, this apple is green. And all right, everyone, take out your textbook on his great play,

This Apple is Green. What do we think he meant by this apple is green? I meant the apple is green. Yeah, no. Babcock won something. Don't make fun of that. There are entire university courses built around analyzing if the apple is green. Well, it's too bad all of it was written by Christopher Martin.

Anyway, yeah, you know, there's actually a Christopher Marlowe Society. No, I don't know Marlowe was another playwright at the time. Let's do this. This is my new favorite segment. Of course Adam knows this Alright, so the it's kind of like flat earth theory But basically the idea is Christopher Marlowe and William Shakespeare were friends at the same time and they were both Playwrights and you know, I think Shakespeare was I think he was starving and I think apparently Christopher Marlowe gave him a play or something like that, and that's how he, that's the theory anyway. And Shakespeare wrote none

of it. That's what they're saying. That's what people say. All of them. Like, none of the plays. Not Twelfth Night, not Hamlet, not any of them. And yeah, yeah, it's kind of nuts. Now, there are people who claim that they have historical reasons to think this.

I don't know if they're true or not. I don't think they are. I would love to know, I would love to pick apart, I would love to talk to separate conspiracy theorists like I want to talk to someone I want to have a list of like a dozen conspiracy theories and sit down with someone who

staunchly believes in each one of them well I saw one come up the other day on my Facebook because there's a person on my Facebook who legitimately believes that there are lizard people okay which is an Alex Jones thing it's a lots of crazy people yeah like the Illuminati

lizards that are taking over the world and they've taken over the Democratic Party. Like, I want to know who thinks the Illuminati is real. But who's like, the lizards are ridiculous, guys. I want to know who thinks the dinosaurs are fake. But the flat Earth thing?

That's insane. Like, that's what I want to do. I think a lot of people believe flat Earth would also not believe dinosaurs. No, yeah, but I want to know the ones who draw the line. They're like, whoa, whoa now! That's too crazy. Come on! Not enough evidence. What are you guys smoking?

Ancient Aliens on History Network, which is one of the most entertaining shows out there on History Network anyway. I love the South Park episode. Kyle Broflovsky of DeVry Institute. We don't have evidence that there weren't ghosts at the, what was it, the Pilgrim dinner? Yeah. What do they call the first Thanksgiving? I think they just call it the first Thanksgiving. The Last Supper.

The Last Supper. Don't think so. There's no proof that the Easter Bunny wasn't. It's a double negative. It's another thing he could be there. We're saying we don't know. Can't say for certain. Thomas Tatar scored a goal tonight to put the Vegas Golden Knights up 1-0.

I think so. His $5.3 million contract is justified. And the first round pick that they paid for him. Yes. And second. And third. I think. Why did they do that?

I had a question about the Dragger Cafe, even though it's on the other network. It's a weird way to put out content, I think. Because they just talked about it and like this isn't criticism of this isn't me going Rogers. Ha ha bell Don't put that mic sock in my water bottle WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? Okay, so if you're listening Dude, someone needs to

Dude, I can't drink out of it. You know Jesse just took the mic sock. Hold on, hold on This is just soaked in coffee breath from countless people and now it's in my friggin analogy I'll cover the mic sock off the mic and put it in the sea's water. Was I that boring? I don't know. I just saw it. I thought it'd be a fun thing to do.

Well, then I'm just going to leave it. You should probably take it out. No, you should probably take that out. No, now part of me is just like, how so can I get... No, Steve, why would you do that? Why would I do that? Take it out. And what sucks is I can't ask you to reach your giant-ass hand in there.

Okay, so we brought scissors. No, you're going to cut it? No, just pull it to the side and then pick it out. Oh, it's the atom. Two fingers. Adam's the smart one How am I gonna I was really going somewhere

We should just figure this out after What was your story What was your question about Dregger I should go and pour this out Steve what was your question About the Dregger Cafe You know You know what

We were doing something here And we got distracted And I fucked it up And you fucked it up And you let him off the hook Let's get back To the main point Which was your question

About Dregger Cafe It's an interesting way To put out content Well Okay It's not the way I would have done it. So they got this exclusive interview with Babcock because they're at the World Championship in Denmark. And he's also there because he's going to sit down and talk to Freddie and no one's freaking out about that for some reason.

And so they put out quotes. They put out little snacks. And they were juicy enough that we talked about them on the show. And I saw they were quoted by like Platinum Seat Ghosts and by a bunch of people on Twitter. And it got people talking. and I wanted to listen to the whole thing on the way here. And I couldn't because the whole thing's not out. No.

The whole thing comes out tonight, like when this podcast comes out. Yeah. And I'm like, how many people who consume those quotes today are going to be like, yeah, I'm going to listen to the whole thing? No, dude, like tease that you have this big interview with Babcock and then release the whole thing and then clip it after. Well, I don't understand why they clipped it before. I do.

You do? Because they clipped three pieces. Isn't it like half an hour long? Something like that. Yeah, so they clipped like five minutes total worth of content. That's a lot. Okay, fine. That is a lot of content.

But what they're trying to do is create hype at the beginning, click, click, click, click, click, and then the whole thing comes out, and then they'll split it off into more clips. Yeah. And then clip, clip, clip, clip, clip. So there will be people that want to watch the whole thing. There will be people that don't.

So you think it's all about the clips? we release these clips now and more clips later in the way that I'm describing it instead of getting the 10 minutes of here's everything, here's the clips here's the full thing, you've dragged this out for like two days now and you're in the eyes of people

for this much longer time and it has been kind of the topic of conversation, I think they've done a good job and the other thing is man the I think it is sort of answering a lot of the questions that we all wanted answered So it's interesting that they have it all

But I think a lot of people Are going to take the quotes from today And go, ah, good That's what I wanted to hear And then not go back to it That would be my concern I don't think so You know why?

Because you're going to start pumping them out on Twitter tomorrow They'll clip the rest of the interview And say, hey, watch the full thing here Are you going to go back and view the whole thing? Or listen to the whole thing? I probably, eh, the whole thing all at once Maybe maybe

but that's the thing remember that people who listen to this show people who listen to this show we put out the full show and then we put out some clips afterwards during the week

or whatever which I think is the way you do it yeah what's interesting about that is that in the broadcast world it's the complete opposite so

it's tease it's tease first and then full thing can you imagine if we tried if we were like hey we recorded a podcast tonight here's two minutes

people would be like what the hell is your problem Just put it out. But in the broadcast world, the way they think is, and this is how I run my radio show, it's we got to keep you listening longer. We got to keep you on our website longer. It's TSL, time spent listening or time spent using. And so the idea here is they want to extend, and I don't blame them, the amount of website hits. We don't base our show on website hits.

We base our shows on a download and people listening and advertising revenue, right? So it's a different way. engagement but yeah totally yeah but the point is getting too meta the point is it's it's it's uh i think that they did it i think they did it the right way because they've kept it the topic of conversation and you can never lose on leaf stuff and you well that one's true you can definitely never lose on we have a unique audience because people will listen to the whole show like our average listening time is like 45 minutes i think that's with most podcasts though at first and then they'll go back and listen to the rest that's the crazy part um i think they're using a broadcast

mindset for digital and I just don't think it works that way I think like what I love so much about the podcast is when we put it out we put out like this hour and a half two hour thing what people latch on to glob on to you could even say

and like what resonates with them and then I think I see people talking about it and then we put out the clips and they go here this is what I was talking about rather than just it's amazing YouTube has a feature

where you can just share at a certain point no one uses it no one uses it yeah it's no we gotta wait until the five minute clip

comes out and then you share it I don't know I just thought it was an interesting way of doing things not a criticism just not the way

I would have done it it's interesting that they're doing it that way and in terms of will I go back probably I will

but I took like for example I consumed all the little Kyle Dubst quotes from the day he was named GM but it took me

like several days to go back and watch the whole thing I don't know does that make sense yeah it's 2-0 Vegas and Eric Holla

also hit the post so oh Eric Holla's gotta have a game Winnipeg's getting their shit run right now

which means they're gonna win the game yep that's how the show works that's how it works so we so we jinxed Vegas if that's the case

are we is that possible for us to do that I don't think so I think Vegas is so strong that it gets through them I wrote about it again today I still my brain is still having difficulty with the fact

that they're a team yeah that their games count like whenever a team wins the cup I feel something like it's it's not the same as obviously if the Leafs were to win something but like when Boston beat Vancouver I mean most of Canada wanted Boston to beat Vancouver at the time I was like i was a little bit happy when the kings won in 2012 i remember going hey that's neat it's the first time they won first time they've ever won when chicago won it was under really interesting circumstances the whole two goals in 17 seconds thing in 2013 those it was their second from 2010 whatever uh kings went again whatever and then who won in 2015 chicago again wow three and six penguins win wow there was that whole story of phil kessel getting his first cup phil kessel

the stanley cup champion uh cj wrote this great thing about the pens won in 2009 and a lot of them thought they would never get back to the promised land then the next year they won it again and i go wow it's so cool that we're watching them win again even though i'm sad for nashville so it's you know it's not always positive this year vegas wins i think i'm just gonna stare at the screen and go what am i watching like it's not gonna be real you ever just see something so silly that you don't process it it just doesn't go through your head at all yeah you can be live right in front of you react to it yeah it doesn't even have to be on a screen it's just it's wacky to me that they're even here it's wacky to me that they're i remember the first time the leafs played them

this season i was like this is silly this is silly oh and it's going to the shootout hope they win it was so weird it wasn't really real to me until the leafs lost on New Year's Eve and I was like oh okay now Vegas is slightly real oh Vegas killed them killed them

I remember the probably the only game I remember thinking of Vegas as like an expansion team and real was their first game

which wasn't at home it was on the road I think it was against Dallas they get just creamed in terms of shots and possession. And it was just James Neal scoring two goals, Marc-Andre Fleury stealing the show. And it was lucky.

It was a lucky win. And everyone was just kind of like, isn't that cute? Isn't that cute? They won their first game. Ah, it's so cute that the expansion team won their first game. All right, let's forget about them now. And I think that was the last time they were an expansion team to me.

Because then I think they won their first three games. They won seven out of their first eight. It's still I'm not used to them There's supposed to be a grace period Of like three years of being shite We don't get that Here they are, final four

Four teams left, they're one of them It's still crazy to me, I don't get it And yet I get it What's next on the docket? LeoVegas.net And then the press conference We just want to quickly mention again Go to LeoVegas.net

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six winners they're giving away through through a whole thing yeah I think there will be more yeah oh okay yeah okay

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So it's right on their front page. Hey, let's do the press conference. The Presser S.D.P. I think we have the best question that we've ever had. Oh, boy. Steve, can I dunk this windsock in your water? It's a question. For sure.

It's a thinker. Uh-oh. Oh, great. Is rainbow weather? It is not legal yet It's not legal yet No but Stop it

Stop what you're doing That's from orangeblack92 on reddit Is it weather? Now The thing about weather Is that's like saying Is Are clouds weather?

Because clouds are A piece of They're the sum of the thing But like We agree that rainbows are a thing Rainbows are a thing. And clouds are a thing. But that's like saying, is James Van Riemsdyk Toronto Maple Leafs?

I think it's like saying, is a fork food? Like, I associate a fork with food. I feel like a rainbow is an effect of weather. Is a fork a restaurant? If you eat a fork, is it food? If you eat anything, is it then food? So my house is food. You've eaten your house?

If I did. Yeah, if you, okay. If you eat something, is it food? like if i if i ate this and i swallowed it can do i count it as food what has to qualify as food nutritional value some sort of something i assume i'll get something out of a piece of plastic fiber there you go i don't think it's not coming out of me whole estrogen it might come back out of your hole i'm just no i'm saying it won't it'll do something in my stomach and then it'll probably come out the other end but something's gonna remain in my body which makes it food because

I got something out of it. Isn't there something about plastic and estrogen? I don't know. I have no idea. Is a rainbow weather? Okay. So, when we did the, is a hot dog a sandwich thing, we established what is a sandwich. Yes.

So, we have to establish what weather is. Rain? No. Ah. So, rainbows come after rain. I would call the rain weather. Rainbows are a byproduct of weather, but not weather. That's what I think too

I think they're an effect of weather They're something that happens because weather happened It rains, then sun comes through Rainbow Rain is weather Sun, or clear skies I guess are weather Rainbow is a byproduct of the weather Right, rainbow doesn't occur

It's not occurring on its own It occurs because something else occurred It's like Is bread A living thing No, it's a byproduct of previously It's a byproduct of wheat and all that. It's funny that you should bring up bread

because the next question is how do you cut a slice of toast? Because there are three options. I will show you the picture. Okay, I see. Are you throwing this up online too so people can see it? Sure. I assume somebody can

throw it up or I'll put it on Reddit. Okay. So it's across and half up and half sideways. Do your broadcasting and describe the three options. Okay, so it's a cross, and then there's diagonally, and then there's perpendicular. Which way is the correct way? You also have to decide what way, like, what is the top of the bread.

Is it the, you know, because people say the top of the bread is the part that it sits on. Some people are like, no, the top of the bread is the rounded piece, because it's the top. What? Oh, shit. Like a loaf. Yeah, like a loaf sits, right? No, but what, oh, crap. What part is the top?

Because, like, when you get a bag of bread, the top is the end of the loaf, where the bread piece is. But as soon as you start cutting it, then where's the top? Does the loaf of bread have one hole or two? Do you eat that piece? That piece on the end? Oh, hell yeah. It's my favorite piece. Oh, the butt?

I throw it in the garbage. Really? Yeah. Oh, save them all. I'll eat them. I put them in the toaster, and I like them crispy. With Adam, it's always butt eating season. Yeah.

What's the... S-Z-N. So if you put, if you had a Wonder Bread, Sidney Crosby Wonder Bread, is the top where the bag opens or is the top where you lay it flat? No, okay, if I were to draw. That's better than the bread cutter. If I drew a loaf of bread, yeah, the top part would be the rounded part, I guess. Where you're sitting it flat, not where you take the bread out. No, and then, okay, so we're having two different conversations here.

The top of the loaf of bread is the rounded part. The top of the slice of bread is the part that you put face up. No, it's the same thing, though. It's the same loaf except cut. It doesn't become a new loaf of bread. That's ridiculous. So then do you put toast on its side? What do you mean?

Well, yeah. Because the rounded part, you don't stand toast up. You do in the toaster. You don't have to. Yeah, okay. But on your plate, it's flat. It lays flat. Yeah, but that doesn't change the top.

That's like laying on your back. Like the toast, you're laying on your back. My head didn't change because I'm laying on my back. So when you put jam on your toast, or avocado. Avocado jam. When you put avocado jam. Avo jam. Also known as guacamole by peasants.

Sometimes avocados aren't worth the price of admission. Like yesterday, I was going to buy avocados, and it was way too expensive. I was like, it's not worth it. No. Anyways. Sidebar. That's Jesse. There you go.

Things Jesse thinks. Well, look, baby, everything is happening. So when you put jam-a-moly on your bread, what side of the bread do you put it on? It doesn't matter. You put it on the... That's the conversation we're having. No, we're talking about what's the top of the loaf.

Right. And to get there, I'm asking you, when you spread guacamole... I don't put it on. I don't wrap it around on the crust. So you call it the side then. I put it on the side. All right.

I think we agree then. No, no, no. Okay. So what side are you on? I don't understand what side you're on. We're flat. In fact, we're flat. That's what it is.

I think toasts are yellow. And the way to properly cut is in half. Not on diagonal. It doesn't matter to me. I would either cut it I would never cut it Perpendicular Or horizontal

Yeah down the middle Yeah that makes no sense What are you nuts? No but little kids Eat their sandwiches like that All the time And it's strange Yeah

Like what are Who are these mothers That are doing this And it's strange They're in a rush That's why The four way cuts are key Especially for your little kid

Little hands Okay Okay maybe this is weird At home I will cut it vertical When I'm at a restaurant I think it's weird or like a breakfast place

I think it's weird when it's not cut diagonal and whenever I get it I'm like ooh diagonal toast fancy toast they cut it fancy he's sitting at a Denny's I love restaurants I just hate ordering food I think every restaurant is fancy

that is sort of like high end out there they go to Tim Hortons and they do fine dining we're going to take you on a date to Tim Hortons baby you know what you guys have never been to the famous Ted's Tomorrow morning, I'm going to get up and I'm going to get you a Grand Slam Denny's for $3.99. No, why do that when you can go to the famous Ted's and get a freaking turkey dinner?

Whatever you want. It doesn't even have to be Thanksgiving in October, unless you're wrong. So, do they put it in the microwave for you, or do you have to do it? Wow. Wow. Wow. No. What happens is they bring you food in a place where they probably previously allowed smoking,

and it sort of smells like it. and it's delicious. It's on the walls. It's just on the walls and there's all kinds of random hockey stuff even though it's not a sports bar or restaurant.

In fact, they don't serve alcohol. I don't know what side you called the top of the loaf. The rounded part. Okay, you are incorrect.

What the hell's the top of the loaf then? The butt? Yeah, where you pull out the bread. That's on the side. Yeah, that's the top.

Jesse, when you put your bread away, Yes? Do you... Yeah, I stand it up. Yeah, you do? Yeah, every time. I actually have a separate container in my house for my bread.

And it's labeled, like, top. Yes. It says top only. Okay, good. All right. Glad that we came to that. Do we have any hockey-related questions? I think it's all right that we have a difference of opinion.

I don't. You're right. Do we have hockey-related stuff? Eat this middle finger. Oh, how many current Maple Leafs could make an Olympic roster in 2022? That's from clunky underscore 25. I'm going to say Matthews, Nylander, Marner. Maybe Morgan Rielly.

Matthews, Nylander, certainly. Marner is going to have a really hard time making Canada. Yeah. Especially because, like, they typically just go, do you play center? No, you don't. You're wing now. Yeah.

Morgan Rielly, maybe. Morgan Rielly, maybe. But he might be too old. No. I'm kidding. 2020. He'll be, what, 28? Actually, yeah, there might be enough young Canadian

defensemen. He'll be 27. Yeah, 27, 28. He'll be fine. Freddie Anderson, for sure. If Denmark qualifies. Sure. Or Team World. Maybe they just adopt the World Cup thing. I listened to that rant again the other day. I was a little fired up.

I was a little jacked. The other day. I mean, several hours ago. Who else would be there? Andres Johnson, maybe? Maybe? Carl Bergstrom has played national games for them? Maybe? That'd be wonderful. Curtis McElhinney.

It depends. Well, it just depends on how deep Sweden is at that point. And I have a feeling they'll be quite deep. Is Austin Matthews the first line center for the U.S.? If it's not Jack Eichel. Is Matthews better than Eichel currently? You know, he probably is. Does Eichel play on his wing?

Does Matthews play on Eichel's wing? Are the states getting better? Yes. I feel like they are they had a bad they had a bad dip there but I think they're getting better yeah

Canada had a dip like that too it happens yeah it wasn't much of a dip no but they did it was a two second dip yeah no

the states for a while you're like yeah they kind of stink and now they're crazy again yeah that team's gonna have like and they're gonna be peaking right around the same time too you're gonna have

Matthews Eichel Wierenski and then Gary Bettman will be like sorry you can't go isn't that yeah

isn't Hellebuck American There's some crazy American goalies too John Gibson America I don't remember I don't know He was on team

North America Which means nothing Connor Hellebuck Is from Michigan Hey Robin Lanner Robin Lanner Yeah now

See now we're getting Away from it Leafs John Gibson's from Pittsburgh We've never had this Problem Leafs

Let's focus Matthews Nylander Marner's a maybe So Matthews Nylander's for certain Kapanen might make Finland yeah I can see that

I 100% think he will yeah Riley might make Canada that one's gonna be tough he's being tough if Denmark makes it Freddie yeah

Gardner might be too old for the States and also two not good enough um sorry too dry he'd probably made it

this year don't you think if there was a team yeah I think he'd be on it I think he'd be on it because I think they would have been a little thin on defense at very least the 7th

yeah I'm like I can't even think of who would have made the team. Marlowe will be retired. Kadri's not going to make Canada. Who else is on this team?

Well, the rest of it we just don't know. Like I said, Janssen, Grunström, we don't know. We don't know what they're going to be. I mean, okay, well if we're doing you don't know, Lilligren might make Sweden. I don't know. If Lilligren develops into a top four defenseman a la Travis Dermott

on his trajectory, Not hard to see him on Team Sweden. Other than the fact that Team Sweden is just a friggin' defenseman factory right now. It's crazy, yeah. Headman and Darlene and Zaitsev on Russia. Yeah, they're pretty thin on D. JVR on the U.S. At that point, though?

How many current Leafs? He is technically a current Leaf. Yeah, until June 30th. How many Leafs today? Okay, well, fine. Yeah, but I mean... I don't know. have you already

mentally moved on like JVR is not a Leaf anymore yeah he's not you guys are done with that Bozak too to me Bozak

and Komarov actually both might be but probably not I don't think they're coming probably not but JVR

has completely mentally moved on he's not even a Leaf anymore it just doesn't make sense why would he be a Leaf and it's not

anything against him and when he posted his little Toronto I love you thing I was like oh cute I'm gonna miss you but that was the thing

at the end of it there was a I'm going to miss you. He's earned his fabulously wealthy contract, and he deserves it. Yep. Whoever gives it to him, he deserves it. Yep. And also, it's going to be bad at the end.

Most are. Sorry. Most are. I wonder if he signs a shorter, more expensive deal. Probably not. I've heard about that. Is there a benefit to that? Like, if John Tavares signs for $15 million for one year somewhere, even if he gets injured,

he's still got $15 million. Yeah, like, John Tavares already doesn't have to worry about his new plan. Or 80 or 90. Yeah, I always make this argument. It doesn't make sense. Like, dude, Matthews is going to... And he's not like Ray Allen at the end of his career signing with the Heat. Yeah.

Who signed for, like, minimum, league minimum, so he could play with LeBron and get the ring that he got. Yeah. Elite athletes aren't regular rich anymore. Like, I feel like... Like, Brian Marchment, I'm pretty sure... Like, what did he make over his career? Who knows?

Five, ten million? Something like that. like he's got a really nice house in I think Uxbridge you know like he's got I don't know it's probably like a million dollar home something like that Austin Matthews when it's all said and done is gonna have made over a hundred million dollars yeah when you think about it like okay well think about what Lou Lamorello would have started out making as a manager and what he probably makes now Lou Lamorello I would imagine has made between and this is a big between but 30 and 50 million dollars

I don't know over the course of his career 100% that's tough because his career has been so long yeah that's why I think

it's been that high what was his first NHL salary versus what it is currently it would be in the early 100 thousands what did you make

at the zoo that's what Lou made in Jersey in 88 when they were the Mickey Mouse Christmas jerseys I think

I started at like I don't know $8 or $9 an hour. That's actually pretty high for back then. Minimum wage was $6.40. That's what I was making. Minimum wage was $6.40? $6.40 when I started at Shopper Strong Mart.

And then it moved up to $7 something. Minimum wage when I started at McDonald's was $7.10. And I remember they had this, when I was going through orientation, they go, we're happy to announce that McDonald's is no longer a minimum wage employer. And I was like, sweet,

you'll be making $7.15 an hour. And like, dude, in orientation, I was like I already hate this job I was like wow yeah you weren't meant for McDonald's

haven't even worked my first shift and screw you guys do you want another question yeah give me another because the most talked about thing out of last episode

I don't know if you guys know no god it's the fucking Marvel thing Adam Jesus Adam people are like

hey I really like you but your opinions are trash let's not focus on what Adam got wrong let's focus on I was right about the Hulk

the thing is I was right about those movies I haven't even seen no really what it was his opinion on the movies

I didn't personally like them there are no facts involved here people yes there are if one person says they don't like something it doesn't mean

that it's terrible or it's good I've never seen these movies so I'm just speaking from the opinion of hey if somebody likes something you don't have to

run down their throat if they don't like it same thing what did you say was bad so I thought the Winter Soldier was dry. I didn't think it was as exciting as everybody thought it was. And I actually think...

Didn't most people say that? No, I don't think so. No. So the Reddit question is, this is from Don'tBeSawed, like Sawed, 1998. He said, why is Adam not getting enough that's on his Marvel movie takes? That's not even a question.

To answer your question, he is. I got it. He got it. Look at my mentions, people. Come on. It said, pretty sure it bothered 99% of people listening, and that seems to be true. Well, okay. So, Adam, the floor is yours.

So, my question is, okay, is it a, if it's a, for you, if it's a truly compelling storyline, then who am I to say? I just didn't like them. I didn't think it was very good. I, and I didn't think Star Wars The Last Jedi was very good. And I'm a, I am the biggest Star Wars fan you'll ever meet. But I, I just didn't like it. I looked at it, and I thought, that was wildly disappointing. I got all excited for nothing.

And I felt like when I was watching, because I bought on Rogers on Demand, I got all the Marvel movies that I haven't seen yet. Sorry, yeah. And I was watching, so I watched... All three of us got it wrong differently. I watched the Civil War one, and then I was trying to watch Spider-Man, and I'm sitting there going, this is just not good. Iron Man, the original Iron Man was funny

it moved, there was great humor in it Spider-Man should be the same thing it should be funny and cute and innocent and that sort of thing and also great villain at the end and I haven't seen the full Spider-Man so I can't really fully say but I feel like Marvel took a dip I feel like they they didn't have the tightest

movies they possibly could have had from a content perspective because they were producing so many and I know they had to get a lot of stories out but man, there are some spots where you're like, what's happening here? Like Iron Man 3 with the Mandarin? Like, what is that? I don't even know what you're talking about.

Like the restaurant? No, there's a character called the Mandarin. They went for all you can eat? And they made, he was a Chinese villain. But China, believe it or not, funded a lot about that movie. Apparently. And so they didn't want him to be the villain. They didn't want a Chinese guy to be the villain

because it wouldn't sell well in China. So they made it into this other guy who's pretending to be Chinese and like he's acting, and it's like, it's such a weird like, there is some weird stuff that happens, man. And so I've just I've just been, I'm just not crazy about the movies. I don't know. Thanks, by the way, to everyone

who sent me like 10, 15 minute videos who were like, here's all 18 movies so that you can go see Infinity War. Yeah, a bunch of people sent me Because I hear Infinity War is genuinely great. Of course. So I want to see it and I want to be up on the storylines. I just think the storylines leading in could have been better. Don't tell

me about Guardians of the Galaxy 2. It was garbage. How recently did you see those movies. I started watching some of them Friday night because we talked about it on Thursday. I'm like, I better catch up on the ones I haven't seen. And I did not. I just was like, okay. I was thinking about this on the way in. I was thinking about a certain artist. I don't even remember who I was thinking about.

And someone trying to explain no, they're good. And here's why. Movies and music... Pretty subjective. Yeah, it's not the sort of thing you can explain into being good. There are people who enjoy the music of maroon 5 genuinely who think it's deep and it touches them i don't know how that's

possible at this point i really like what was it songs for jane or by jane the original one yeah but that was i was in high school years ago yeah yeah every song since then has been hey we know this will get on the radio yeah they make music for the radio not music that's good and because it's good it gets on the radio they make music for the radio no um i remember getting uh getting into a debate with a friend over the movie This Is 40 and

I was just like it's the closest I've ever been to walking out of a movie theater like a movie that I paid to see and like asking for my money back

yeah I heard from somebody this weekend who loved it it was a big old pile of shite and someone tried to explain why it wasn't now

I went in the movie wanting a comedy cause it's a Judd Apatow like a ha ha Judd Apatow comedy which is a hundred thousand percent how it was marketed. And I went in there

and I was more stressed out leaving the theater than I walked in. Because it's not a comedy at all. Isn't it about a relationship breaking down? Somewhat? It's the most depressing thing I've ever freaking seen. Is this in theaters now? No, no, this is a few years ago. And he's trying to explain

it into being good to me and I'm like, dude, it stunk. I went in expecting one thing because of the way the movie told me I should feel about it going into it and it was shit. I didn't like it.

Don't bully me into thinking the movie's good. Yeah, but you're dealing with comic book nerds here, man. Yeah. Well, no, this is very different.

And I say that being one. I didn't like it. I don't like them. I like some things. I've not been blown away by everything. Okay? Is that fair to say?

Everybody telling you that you're wrong hasn't changed your mind. No. Hey, I like the Leafs. Do I like everything the Leafs do? Absolutely not.

We have a show Of criticizing about Things that the Leafs do Even when they win What's the name Of the other guy From Step Brothers It's Will Ferrell

And John C. Reilly Yes Okay So imagine if Step Brothers Was more about Talking about their feelings And how

You know what guys We're 40 And we live with our parents You know we should maybe Be And they get into Like some huge blowups And their fights are serious

And it's not Rubbing their balls On the drum set And doing karate In the garage Right The way it was marketed That's what This Is 40 was like.

100%. 100%. Nobody rubbed their balls on drums games? Not in This Is 40. That's too bad. Unfortunately. And it starts funny, too. The first scene is really funny.

It's a huge... Someone go watch the trailer and then watch the movie. Tell me it's the same thing. I bet you're going to get so many people going, Hot take, Steve Dangle. That was a great movie. Go ahead. Be mad at me.

You're not really you need to, but it was a bad movie. That movie didn't do well. Most people feel that way. That's not really taking a stand. That's like, Gigli was really not a great movie. Ooh, bold take. No, but like. Most people went to that movie feeling the exact same way and being disappointed.

Because movies, everyone has the friend who sees movies right away, right? Then sometimes you go, okay, this movie looked really good, and you go see it right away because of the marketing or whatever. But most of the time, it's a few friends in a larger group who go, you got to see this. And that was a movie that everyone went into it thinking a certain thing and they were disappointed and hey Should I go see this is 40 no? Because it's not a comedy at all and they might have said you know what it might be good as a serious movie

That's like a sort of dark comedy It wasn't a comedy at all. It's shite. Okay, so here's my question then what thing that everybody likes are you willing to say I? Is objectively bad? Peppers Bell peppers Gotta give me a minute to think about that one Jesse do you have one? No not really I like what I like and I hate what I hate

No but like is there something that you Do not get why people really like that I think it's different today Because On Twitter or whatever You can find somebody who likes everything No but you can also find someone who hates everything So you can feel camaraderie and yeah we all hate this movie

and then, I don't know, because it's an echo chamber you feel like everyone hates this movie now I just think it's interesting I just want to know what you see in these Marvel movies that you don't enjoy that everyone else is missing because if 90, like that's the most thing

we got response from last episode and if so many people are coming at you being like you're wrong, what are you seeing that everyone else isn't seeing it's what I'm not seeing I'm not seeing a tight enough storyline I'm not seeing a story that moves fast enough, and I'm seeing cheap jokes, and quite frankly, there are so many characters, and I understand that's part of the universe, but it's hard to feel anything for them when they're there for three seconds. And so, you know, I know that there are people who read all the comic books or whatever.

I did not read all the comic books, so people will say, well, then you don't understand. they're making the movie for both of us here they're making the movie for the guy who understands and the guy who doesn't I've kind of seen comic book movies with Justin Fisher and he's explaining he's trying to explain everything that I need to know before the movie and then the movie starts

and he's not quite done and he's explaining into the movie and I'm like I'd rather just be at your apartment like with a pizza listening to you explain everything so maybe it might be that I don't know I just don't think I thought some of the movies were a little sloppy I don't know it's I thought

Leo Komarov had some sloppy plays this season still like Leo still like the Leafs still like Marvel still think they had some sloppy movies

are you gonna watch Infinity War hell yeah I'm still trying to catch up I gotta catch the end of Spider-Man and then I still have to see Black Panther

and then and I hear Black Panther is outstanding I'm very excited and they all tie in in the movie yeah I think you like

comic books too much to enjoy these movies he's not a comic book guy you're not a comic book guy not really I've read some but you like the characters though

sure I think you're more informed on those characters than the average viewer. I think. Sure. Okay. And because of that, you're like, oh, I want to feel something for these guys. Yeah, yeah, I do want to feel something. Like, okay, I hated the first Transformers.

See, I loved the first Transformers. I hated the next ones. What was great was someone, it might have even been you, you were like, look, you've got to shut your brain off. Yes, that was me then. And I went into the theater, and I remember sitting in there, I'm like, everyone in this theater is having a great time right now, and I'm not. Like, I'm the fuddy-duddy.

So I go into the second one, and I shut my brain off. I go, don't expect to see a plot. Just, and all the crazy, yeah, get excited at that. And you know what I enjoyed? Wow, and the second one was during the writer's strike, so it was bad. I turned my brain off. Wow. You know what?

I enjoyed that. you don't go to the don't expect Daniel Day-Lewis to be in any Transformers movies you know what I mean Mark Wahlberg is now

I just saw the most recent one I think a few years ago and they bring in the Dinobots and it's just why are these even here is that what they're called

they're called Dinobots Dinobots they ride dinosaurs is that a joke so the Transformers get on these dinosaurs these mechanical dinosaurs oh the cars

are riding the dinosaurs the dinosaurs cars yes oh okay They're not cars. They're just robots that are wild.

No, the Dinobots. The Dinobots. That doesn't sound dumb at all. It's really dumb. I can't disagree with you. It's like if it's like they're dogs, like they're just wild animals that they tame, and that's the Dinobots are their animals. They're wild robots.

Yeah. And cars are riding wild robot dinosaurs. And Mark Wahlberg's in the middle of China going, what do we do? What do we do? And he's getting chased. and it's just in Boston. Yeah. I wanted to go to the

Saks game. I was just looking for Fenway. That's 90 minutes of Transformers. Every time something pops off, he's in the middle of a Fenway Frank. He's gonna go... In Russian action. Okay, what is a thing I hate that everyone

else loves? I don't know. I try not to hate anything too much. Oh, for God's sakes. You two are the worst. The New York Yankees. How do you not have one thing where you're like, I don't get it? I just gave you Maroon 5. I'm not a big fan of soccer.

Okay. I'm not the biggest soccer fan. Lots of people like that? It's cool, but I don't really watch soccer. You don't get it? I don't. It doesn't make you feel? It's not that entertaining to me.

It's the biggest global, I guess it's the biggest sport in the world, and it's not one of my top five sports that I watch. Fair enough. There you go. Steven. That's my attempt at a hot take. Okay, this isn't. It's not a hot seat.

It's just an opinion. This isn't great because I really like his latest song. But Bruno Mars, a little bit. Okay, I understand why all of it's good and it's all catchy. That is the epitome of songs for the radio to me. Who's passionate about Bruno Mars? Stadium's full of people. Oh, I know.

I know. Until you've seen Bruno Mars live, it's... So it's a great show? It's one of the most unbelievable experiences you'll ever have. And there are a few songs, like, for me, what really got me on Bruno Mars was Locked Out of Heaven. I thought that song, I was like, holy shit, that's a great song. And, I mean, Grenade. Is it that he's overplayed?

Yeah, 100%. Grenade, Adam! I don't like that song. I never liked that song. And the one that he had with B.O.B. and the... Finesse is great. Finesse is a great song. but I'm just like

I just it's strange to me to be passionate about Bruno Mars and it's weird it's a guy who's like I like at least half his singles

would you find anybody on the street that goes Bruno Mars is 100% my favorite artist there are people like that I assume yeah

I've never met one but he does sell out every show and he puts on an incredible show and it's worth going this one's kind of old

but Arcade Fire don't get it well dude they're Jesse are you Jesse, just use your fingers! Oh, he's almost got it! He's removing it, like, with forceps.

Kinda, like, he's pulling out a- Oh my god! No! Oh, he put it on his tongue! Oh, dude! Alright, so Jesse just pulled the mic sock out of the water bottle and licked it, and it's soaking wet. That is so disgusting. Okay, Jesse, real quick.

Why, man? What do you think I have for dinner? Show's over. What do you mean, the show's over? With that? What else we gotta talk about I feel like I need to justify our game fire. You don't but everyone's gonna get mad Yeah, that's my point. Take it. Yeah fucking risk you to All I'm trying to be is not out here on my own and you guys are just I'm just laughing in the wind here I'll let you do that. Thank you. Thank you jerks It's fine.

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