The Steve Dangle Podcast - Worse? | March 22, 2023

Episode Date: March 23, 2023

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, are the post-trade deadline Leafs worse than the pre-trade deadline Leafs? (00:00), You Can Bet That with Sports Interaction (31:15), the NHL signs a 10-year deal with Fanatics (33:30), a referee gets demoted (1:02:00), the Canes 2nd Round hump (1:17:00), Panthers all-time scorers (1:22:30), the Flames and the Jets are trying to miss the playoffs (1:29:30), and building the perfect hockey player (1:41:00). Recorded: March 22, 2023 Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Gambling can be addictive, please play responsibly. To learn more, visit: https://help.sportsinteraction.com/hc/en-us/articles/216779528-Responsible-Gaming-Self-Limitation-Self-Exclusion Or if you have concerns about a gambling problem, call ConnexOntario 1-866-531-2600. Ontario Only. Must be 19+ or older to play. Visit this episode's sponsors: USE CODE DANGLE AT MANSCAPED.COM FOR 20% OFF AND FREE SHIPPING EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/dangle Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! https://sportsinteraction.com/sdpn Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is Steve Dangle Podcast, powered by Sports Interaction. Want to bet? Spank Andy. Woo! S-D-P-P. The Steve Dangle Podcast, with your hosts, Steve Dangle, Adam Wild, and Jesse Blake. Let's go! You know what I heard?

What? I heard the Leafs are bad. Even when they're good, they're bad. They do not deserve to win-o-meter this season. Ugh. Okay? We're at that awful time of year where everyone's anxiety is at super uber peak. Well, no.

Everyone? No. Leaf fans, yes. Yeah, sorry. That's what I mean. Because Leaf fans don't know what it's like unless you were, you know, alive in 2004. We don't know what it's like to get out of the first round. So I understand where the anxiety is coming from.

Why is everybody so obsessed with us? Everybody talks about Leafs fans. We're dramatic. Leafs fans, oh. drama baby start talking about sandy and you don't even care about the leafs you just care about talking about leafs for anybody that watches vanderpump rules we are tom sandoval and uh that that person that he cheated on his girlfriend with scandal it was scandal that's right you know i know every now and then i'll find a tiktok i don't understand and send it to my wife because

she does yeah and it makes her happy that's right so i'm can't believe he did that to ariana though Ariana rules. Me also. Jerk. But the point is, Jesse, the obsession is we are a walking, talking fan base of Trainwreck. We have a team that doesn't just lose games that we should win, but we lose them spectacular. What was that? What do you mean?

That frigging game. Which one? You mean the Islanders? Yeah. We'll get to the Pierre Engvall revenge game in a second. i i want to talk first about like the just just the idea that the leafs are extraordinarily good or they're extraordinarily bad here's the thing um there are people that are now making the argument that the leafs got worse over the trade deadline yeah and this isn't a single single out

dom decision well no dom's not the only one he's no scott wheeler who's also a friend of the show a lot of the analytics folks yeah and they're entitled to that opinion and they will probably have data to back that up and i'll be and i would have dom on and say this or scott on and say this i'll text scott after the show if you want me to um uh i think they're absolutely wrong um i would say it lacks context and you're wrong yeah and that's okay uh but but i think the the whole idea that like i mean the leafs um i i think people are forgetting the leafs won two games this this weekend yeah and they beat beat up on the carolina hurricanes who were ahead of them in the standing one of the four teams that are ahead of them uh so it doesn't matter so listen when you lose seven

me lately listen lose into the islanders it's like i told you when you lose as a leaf and you lose spectacularly you lose to the islanders like that you don't you never want to drop a game to the islanders because of the tavaris thing they're still booing the guy two cal clutterbuck goals go to jail yeah like come on we don't need you chance we're pretty good they are oh yeah they are like listen i think leaf fans don't need to be salty about it anymore the islanders are just let the fans have the fans your fans are fucking good it made me nostalgic for the pre-covid times i was like oh this didn't change at all no i like that no not even a pandemic could quench their thirst no hatred of john tovar those are the good times and we were supposed to make a trip to ubs arena

and that has never happened because of the set what is it the omicron wave knocked that out we were supposed to go we were talking to ubs folks and we're supposed to be down there you were part of that too uh yeah also i think your streams on saturday night have kind of hurt our availabilities right it's hard to get down yeah well every every saturday night you're working so i got asked a few times at the least game i was at last week um hey so you going to any playoff games no no i'm not stream them i gotta stream all of them jesse and i'll be there though yeah my season tickets yeah i can have one of his tickets yeah so that'll be good only one Yeah and I gotta pay for it

Well I got tickets to The AEW show in Toronto And I'm gonna get blood on me There you go It's gonna be great And that's just the same SummerSlam's coming Are you close up in the AEW?

SummerSlam's coming this summer In Toronto Tickets go on sale this week SummerSlam's in Toronto? I don't know Oh maybe I will Maybe I'm gonna get more blood on me Although they don't really blade

in wwe not anymore no do you know what blading is no idea when you cut yourself on your head to be like oh my name's hulk hogan and i'm and i'm bleeding but that means i'm gonna overcome i'm surprised that hulk hogan with the with the leathery texture of his skin was able to to bleed at all him and rick flair he's literally biggest ones yeah 100 i mean those guys are prime 80s we tan too much but that was before the spray tan right that was the act you had to get in the bed and sit there for a while rick flair is just a shouting wallet um i i want to say that that here's the thing guys to answer the question off the top if you're feeling any sort of anxiety over last night uh listen i get it as a fan as a fan are you ever guys are you ever thrilled or happy

or feel good when the leafs lose uh extremely rare okay it's got to be the exact right circumstance right and and and so do you feel good when the leafs win regardless of how they want almost always yeah so sometimes you win games you shouldn't sometimes sometimes you lose games you shouldn't and sometimes uh it's it's just before the playoffs there's a few key players out injured including the the the bell of the ball of the trade deadline that you made and uh you're putting lines in a blender going who's gonna make it yeah and sometimes that guy you got at the trade deadline is out for a month with a broken finger yeah yeah i think i think uh listen like that's relevant i'm not here to like that should be part of the conversation

after the islanders game i felt like shit i don't like when the leafs lose but what i didn't do was allow the feeling of my favorite team just lost permeate into, well, they must suck then. There's a difference between being disappointed that your team lost and listen, I will only be 100% happy when the Leafs go 82-0. I've come to that realization as a fan. And then 16-0.

And then 16-0. I will never be happy when the Leafs lose, but I don't let it always, anyway, at the beginning of the season, maybe I was different, but I don't let it become like a thing where this is a trend. they lost tonight so they must they might be losing every game they at least don't suck the leafs are great this is a great hockey team it's just that there are people who are very intelligent

who are like i don't like the moves they made and then there are people who are very intelligent running the team who are like we do no but like the guys they lost off the roster engvall and sandin and that's it if that sinks you you didn't deserve to win the cup anyway yeah no like when are we gonna pick up on the trend of guys leaving the leafs and doing really well and that just means there's only one puck to me oh yeah it doesn't it doesn't mean they're idiots you know malgan all right maybe we can have that conversation but like no even malgan like joey anderson is lighting it up in chicago yeah dennis malgan tonight is gonna play on a first line with nathan mckinnon and uh rantanen like he's in a different position than what he was in

on the league it's not the same scenario he's playing with nathan fucking mckinnon i'm waiting to find out if kale mccarr is healthy or not because if he's not i'm actually going to pick up malgan no yeah malgan's a good pickup and urika's got a concussion so yeah there's that the spot open on the top line that's gonna play leckanen's out yeah so but also a factor there the abs have three more games this week and it's wednesday friday sunday yeah which means he'll get into a roster slot for it's fantasy hockey playoffs right now or you want a arizona coyote because they have the same uh well they played yesterday so they were tuesday wednesday friday sunday get that to get that four games they're going up against

the abs yeah but no but like if you want a player off of either roster you'll get the extra game either way no so you have a should i get corral vomelka back is that what you're telling me no you don't want that you want like uh jack mcpain or something oh i already got jt comfor off the ab tyler boyd good one travis boy you mean travis boy yeah i was like damn i know the coyotes are struggling but i don't know who that is travis boyd there's another pickup logan o'connor off the abs yes we should play a game called uh a fake person or a guy who scored a goal for the coyotes this year we could play that at the end of the year i think we could do that and the ducks too honestly we could we could honestly do like guys who picked up an nhl win dylan ferguson

like i think all people are upset about the dylan ferguson thing for people that okay so the senators if you don't know have been riding the the new hamburglar uh uh dylan ferguson although they i believe lost last night um and uh doesn't matter anyway it doesn't really matter they're not going to make the playoffs and and so people are like it's a story in ottawa and that's great here's this guy who was on a pto all of this year with who the marlies the marlies and the Leafs loaned him to the, is it Belleville? I think they traded him there, like, but it was an AHL trade. Right.

So when it was announced that he was going to start for the Sens, I'm like, when did he sign an NHL contract? I don't remember. Right. So he played well enough there that they gave him an NHL contract because they needed it. And he's done well. He went there. He had like a hot week and a half in Belleville and he comes up and stops 47 of 48 for his first NHL win. That's a great story.

We're getting far away from Leafs. Oh, we're getting... Well, no, but what I'm saying... No, no, but this goes into the Leafs thing because people are talking about, well, it's asset management. It's poor asset management. Where was he going to play?

All right. You have Sam Sonoff, who's had a great year. You've had Murray, who's been injured, admittedly. But then you had a goalie in the Marlies. With the Marlies, they won 12 games in a row. Was Dylan Ferguson going to make the jump? No. Well, and then...

So let's get to Engvall. So we'll tie it back into that game. uh i had an islanders fan send me a question for the lfr that i didn't end up answering because i didn't end up doing questions for the lfr and i deleted it and i can't find it but it was basically do you expect pierre engvall to keep this up and i was gonna say no and it wasn't a goal scoring thing because engvall was sort of hot and cold his cold streaks were really cold his hot streaks were surprisingly hot but like we saw him throw a couple hits in that game and they weren't even really vicious hits and no he's not going to keep that up he was drafted in 2014 he's been

playing for the organization in north america since 2018 and no no the enormous sample size says no and it's not like the leafs were like pierre don't hit they would have killed for him to hit he'd still be a leaf if he was hitting but instead a dude like seven inches shorter than him legit in sam lafferty is standing in front yesterday and the puck goes off him like it could have gone off of engvall any given night and it went in the back of the net so there's engvall the other one and this one pisses me off and a lot of you need to ask yourself if you did this because a lot of you did rasmus sandin when he was hot as a pistol in his first few games as a cap you couldn't shut up and i get it i totally get it and then what happened he played a week or

two of dog shit games eating you you didn't say a fucking thing you didn't say sorry i forgot we got this camera back you didn't say a fucking thing all right and this isn't a pro or against rasmus sandin thing but he was hot as a pistol and then he had a few dog shit games like minus three or minus four or something like that i don't i don't remember hearing anything i don't remember hearing it so we're only going to talk about the good things he does and none of the bad it's a it's a leaf fan thing i remember back in the day the leafs traded for a guy a restricted free agent who wouldn't resign in boston and his name was uh nick ritchie no a restricted free agent who wouldn't resign in boston restricted free agent the leafs traded for him who who was it i thought

you were going to say phil castle it wasn't it was dimitri kristich now dimitri kristich was coming off like a 25 30 goal season no reason to think he'd be any different and he was going to add to the second or third line for the leafs he ended up being complete dog shit didn't work out here and then went to i think he was traded to washington and he scored in his first game in washington and i remember the sports center anchor it might have been jay on right but i don't think so the long time ago and the and and he and his partner at the time and i don't i definitely don't think it was dan o'toole but they were they said well i'm kind of rooting for him i'd like to see him you know go back and show the least what for and then of course he fell off

the map and he stunk but leaf fans have always had a fixation with how's the former leaf doing see i remember elsewhere which is sort of why we make a joke about it on sports interaction right like when we do our famous friend or sorry our former friends bets and it hits all the time but also um i i look back on dimitri dimitri kristich as a leaf fondly because he was on my nhl 99 team and he was very good right exactly right the thing with sandy is like he's playing in a different completely different role in washington his his game high if in terms of time on ice in toronto was about 23 uh 15 if i remember correctly it was very rare 23 minutes was was the max he ever played that was the highest he played on it's currently for the washington capitals since he's

been there he's crossed that mark seven times he's playing about 25 minutes a night it's a completely different role 12 points in nine games minus five okay so no but like he's yeah he's getting a lot of power play time that's why the yeah the minus five no but like what i'm saying is like i have not found out anything about rasmus sandin from his time in washington that i didn't already know he's a good offensive defenseman yeah he can run a power play he's not great defensively also like he didn't have a role in toronto yeah they tried that was what he was frustrated about and that's why he wanted to leave it sat out the beginning of the year he held out training camp because he didn't have a contract he was unhappy and then they didn't

play him because there was no role he never took a spot in the lineup like i don't understand the the people resenting i think it's i think it's there again i think it goes back to a generalized anxiety which as a leaf fan you've earned you've earned the reason to doom scroll you've earned you've earned the the there's no reason why you shouldn't think that the worst is yet to come but i'm telling you this year it's not like that i i heard a great one the other day what do you got every now and then tiktok will send things to me that i did not tell the algorithm i was interested in and then i am and i'm like how did i get here one of them is a dude who fixes cow hooves oh that's great especially when they got stuck it like stuck in the hoof and they pull it out no

yeah another thing the tiktok algorithm decided i love a step-by-step guide how to do a proper crawfish boil oh i don't know why but now you know and the third is a dude in a detroit uh lions toque who takes an ice bath outside every day and when he gets in the ice bath he gives you an inspirational quote and he said worrying about uh worrying about tomorrow is carrying tomorrow's burden with today's strength oh that's good shit that's good shit and that's all we do and we wonder why we're tired all the time as a fan base and society we do that to each other all the time and we we spent a lot of this show talking about engvall spent a lot of this show talking about sandin here let me put it into perspective for you minus sign here engvall

rasmus sandin plus sign luke shen jake mccabe sam lafferty nola chari and fucking ryan o'reilly on smith stanley cup winner who's who hasn't played because he's hurt are we gonna honestly due to ryan o'reilly what we did to nick felino no we're not where a guy gets hurt and we go see he's garbage no what he didn't play we're not he didn't play i'll die on that fuck we're not gonna do that i'll die on the hill i'll die on the hill i'll come around i'll come around okay they gave up too much for him fine he would they would have beaten the hat now they would have beaten the fucking leafs the way the leafs played last night damaged us the way the leafs played last night they weren't gonna beat anyone yeah they look like that was a bad game they come off

the weekends and like they probably have a lot of fun on saturday nights and sundays and they go into monday and they're not they're not awake like they are crap i feel like tuesdays it's gonna solve itself when the playoffs happen and they're a little more focused but they're clearly a little tired coming out of the weekend and they don't have everything together i don't excuse sleepy but you are gonna have shit games from time to time like i said i'm upset about it but i don't think it's like a trend and and you know do are the leafs in the playoffs letting the islanders get seven past well freddie anderson's no longer a net so i don't think so uh and and i mean that like i really don't think that that's what's going to happen in the playoffs for the leafs i feel like

they're set they're ready they're okay no here's here's what i'm glad about yesterday leafs gave the islanders two points to make it more realistic that there is an islanders bruins first round series i hope you friggin go seven games and 16 overtimes i hope you tear the meat off of each other's bones it would be a great series a very good one do i want to win that series i don't give a shit it could set it up like either of you i know everybody's talking about if the leafs were somehow get over the hump beat tampa oh my god second round they would be either playing boston which we already know the history there can you imagine of three or four games just with the islanders of we don't need you chance oh my god that would be a spectacular

second round spectacular absolutely the one thing that worries me about the islanders is that they've been like they've been on a little bit of a heater and their top six has been absolutely garbage throughout this entire thing like um horvat just hasn't scored at all and nobody is producing up in the top six and it's this bottom six that's just scrapping together these goals So could you imagine if this team Puts it together like all Four lines are rolling And Barzal comes back

Like I'm very worried about The Islanders and they have Ilya Sorokin Who is just absolutely fantastic They mentioned his skating That he's one of the best goalie skaters In the league and just his side to side movement You see it on those saves and some of those Pad saves like I forget who was on the

Breakaway it was early on in the game He had that one terrific save like that dude's incredible he had a he had a shorthanded breakaway stop on cam yeah i think that's the one i don't know but yeah but that dude can carry them a couple rounds the uh big asterisk there is brock nelson um that hit from achari uh it could have been a penalty i don't think there was any bad intent he did turn really sharply but the fuck that that was that did not look good how do we feel about cal clutterbuck scoring two goals against the least though the One thing that stings, it's like, Hal Clutterbuck?

That's how they've been doing it. Yeah, but he's six scoring. Hal Clutterbuck, fantastic. He hasn't scored since January. That's all right. Which means the Leafs are going to get him any day now. That's why they got Eric Gustafson. What do you mean?

He didn't score in like 50 games or something like that. And then he got a hat trick against the Leafs. You look at it, it's just a straight line machine gun of zeros followed by three. against the Leafs, because why wouldn't it be? Of course, why wouldn't it be? It does seem to happen. You know, man?

It does seem to happen. Not that worried about it. No? Not that worried about this one. The only good thing to come out of yesterday was Noah Dobson got two points, and again, fantasy playoffs. That's good. So if it's good for Steve, it's good for everyone.

I went, no! It was, alright. well dude after it was like six two i was beyond giving a shit and i'm like all right as long as no adopts and get some points you were on game over yesterday i sure was and how'd it go uh heck of a game to be on game over toronto i didn't like it no i'm kidding it was it was great did you turn down game over islanders or uh yeah no it was great it was like uh it was like uh an opportunity for me to like test out lfr material oh okay it was like oh yeah that that that hit that didn't that sucked i robert off camera laughed at that okay i'll write that down um

yeah no fuad does uh does an unreal job it was great venting the chat was lively were they and you might be surprised a little upset i like see this is the thing i like that though if you're not upset when the leafs lose like you should be a little upset no you'd be a little you could you're i i don't like the people that are like i'm not upset i'm too evolved for that no go fuck yourself man i'm gonna be upset for a little while it's game 70 and i'm just not worried about it i think it's okay to be a little upset let me be upset yeah no you know what you do is you go to hyper fanatic spaces and be like why are you a fanatic um jess i think i think i don't know if the stove dingle podcast in uh fort lauderdale is talking about the tevbe lightning losing to

the montreal canadians with such passion that you are talking about well they've won something though it's true they've won something they still want to win this year as well and last night they dropped a bad one to the canadian and they've dropped a few bad ones lately yeah and mikhail sergachev hurt a guy without getting called i love a good theme i love it i love consistency yeah that dude he's just good isn't it weird that that whole team is full of guys who can do fucking anything yeah are you setting this up already for 12 games from now are you upset Are you pre-upset for the first round? Yeah

For something that's going to happen to one of the Leafs players And it's not going to get called Are you pre-upset? Kucherov's not going to elbow anyone in the head Did Justin Hall set a pick? Listen to this Is Justin Hall going to set a pick? There was a pick in last night's game too, by the way

And they didn't fucking call it Did you see it? Was there? Do you know who it was? No Or who it was on? It was on fucking Kerfoot Oh yeah

Yeah Kerfoot's so useful You don't I'm going to kick your ass I don't know I'm just saying Kerfoot can play anywhere You know what, you can set a pick on Kerfoot, please go ahead

It's not going to make a difference I love, I love Kerfoot Matthews Yonkrog I am going to find Yoda And he's going to train me For several years in a cave So I can kick Sheldon Keefe's ass But you know what Keefe is doing

He's just throwing He's throwing people out there And going, if we're in a pinch in the playoffs Could this work Fucking no! It's the experiment time. It's experimental. Come on, guys.

You think he's going to start the playoffs with that first line? No way. No way. Yarncroke first line. Let's go. I don't mind Yarncroke first line. With Kerfoot? That I mind.

That I mind greatly. Who's driving that? It was Kerfoot, Matthews, Yarncroke, and then Keefe decided to switch it up. Kerfoot, Matthews, Lafferty. Let's go. I am going to give myself a reverse hair transplant. why isn't anybody talking about uh john tavara struggling he went two games without putting a shot on goal and then last night he had two oh wow i didn't know that i guess he's really missing

ryan o'reilly wow with mitch marner on his line listen man tavaris has had a really good year um him not getting a few shots in a couple of games like listen do i want him to get shots against the Hurricanes and Senators, yes. Am I worried about two bad games? No. Oh, uh, uh, uh, shot. No, never mind. Willie struggled, too. No one's talking about that. He had four shots, not two.

There are some guys you're allowed to criticize and other guys that you're not. Yeah, Sheldon Keefe calling out Willie publicly when it seems like the entire lineup is struggling. Yep. I think, what did they say? Matthews, Marner, Tavares, Willie were minus 11 combined last night. Yeah. It's just so boring. They hit a shit game.

Period, man. Whatever. Yeah, I just... there's a sect of people Tavares can do no right. There's a sect of people Tavares can do no wrong. There's a sect of people Willie can do no right. There's a sect of people Willie can do no wrong. And I feel like I watch enough of this team to know

that the truth is somewhere in the middle. Yeah, they have good games and bad. But more good games than bad, which is what you pay them for. I think we all need to calm the fuck down. Yeah, I do too. I agree with that. And I think that the idea that 70 games into the year, this team all of a sudden, wow, shit, we didn't know they're bad.

now like that is that to me is ridiculous so we should calm down but also be upset yes you're allowed to be no no there's different types of upset exactly right he's right you're allowed to be upset in the moment that the leafs fucking threw a stinker you wasted your tuesday night on that shit 7-2 game i'd be pissed off you'd be pissed off no big deal but it doesn't mean the season's tanking that's my point let's limit the explosion blast radius area please here's what i feel happened is yesterday i went march 21st sucked and leafs nation went you're right march did suck and i'm like what no no yeah the 21st no yeah yeah the whole fucking month it's garbage get rid of it go from february straight to april

enough well i mean if if leaf fans were being honest the last couple years have been straight to april years i would like to point out one last thing what's that um remember at the trade deadline uh they said from here on out the leafs have i think it was like a top five easiest schedule heading into the playoffs who the fuck came up with that have you who said that it was i want to say it was on the broadcast is it based on yes it was like strength of schedule i think it was like strength of opponents or whatever sure who the fuck no who are they playing the leaf schedule is horrible it's like forget who they're playing they barely have any two-day uh uh gaps off although they just wasted one with a dog shit game against the islanders um they have a lot of

uh road games they're on a five game road trip right now and they're back to back road back to back with travel any back-to-backs with travel yeah that's what friday saturday was it was a back-to-back with travel their final three games of the season are all on the road three games in four nights this schedule is fucking it's brutal their schedule sucks who they play let's go through it let's go through it i don't know where you heard that from i 100 saw it i'll start from carolina to ottawa back to back friday saturday then you get to the islanders uh panthers dog fight dog fight hurricanes and preds over the weekend sat or saturday sunday back to back islanders to florida is one day in between then you got to travel back home you get two days in

between you're facing the panthers again on wednesday then you get to saturday in april where you face ottawa and detroit back to back with travel and then you get columbus boston montreal day off day on and florida tampa back to back and then new york to end the season they end with four games in six holy crap this is intense yeah no a hundred percent around the trade deadline it was like uh tampa has had one of the easiest schedules the leafs have had one of the hardest and then it's gonna flip-flop tampa's gonna have one of the hardest ones and the leafs are gonna have an easy one i'm not making this about tampa i'm just telling you yeah i remember hearing no their schedule sucks in april it fucking stinks in april the leafs play eight games in 13 days

heading into the play i hope you're all ready to watch the worst hockey of your lives with By the way, in the first half of April. Zero two days off. Oh, shit, you're right. In the entire going into the playoffs, plus one back-to-back. They are playing nobody. I really hope they don't start the playoffs until the 19th. So here's part of the reason why you can get really upset

about a shitty performance against the Islanders like they had yesterday. You need to lock down home ice. You don't want to have to be trying a million percent in those games. No, Tampa's going to give that to them. i really fucking hope so i really hope so well they play columbus at home in april that there's a loss yeah five four and one five four and one leafs and uh tampa both in their last 10 and by the way a reverse shout out to the capitals for allowing seven fucking goals to columbus i picked up charlie lingren yesterday i was very upset

but again we need to know yeah no it's great you did yeah all right the uh least have a three point lead on the tampa bay lightning for that second place in the atlantic division but tampa has played two more games so that three point if they can just pick up two more points in those two extra games least can be sitting pretty with 10 games to go perfect pittsburgh four straight let's not worry at a boy so okay wrap the segment wrap the segment how do you feel about the leafs everybody how do we feel same as i always have good but with a feeling like a i'm not i'm not i'm not answering any more questions what do you mean it's the same as i always have how do you feel that's the same as i don't know i don't understand can you just answer the question

fuck man like they're fine okay jesse how do you feel about the leafs yeah i think they'll probably win around this year i feel like the least are a top five team in the nhl they're a good team capable of greatness i wish they would embrace it wow let's talk to dave they are barely a top five team the new york they're a top five team new york rain no new york rain is sitting pretty and to quote new yorkers fuck off all right you can bet that with david bastel brought to you by sports interaction get in the action and make a play 19 plus please play responsibly all right we now go live to office dave hello office dave hey good to see you guys what's going on well we could just see your head sort of

floating in a in a off a white background and a pink shirt yeah just your head i'm glad i'm glad to notice it was pink because it looks like it's white on white and i'm like oh i wore the wrong clothes today we need the floating we need the steve dangle sports interaction logo where he's like ah you know that's what we need behind you we need steve constantly screaming in your ear right i'll look i'll see what i can do okay now as requested because jesse requested this on monday i think it was just no no steve came up with the idea okay the the the prop is what dave under the dangle dangles doozy section yeah so you know as we discussed on monday matthews and marner i'm sorry matthews and nylander are kind of neck and neck as far as goal scoring is concerned

Nylander has 35 goals. Matthews has 32. The prop is, will they both hit 40? Now, they both have to hit it to hit the prop properly. It can't be a Nylander 40, Matthews 39, or that's a no, right? Right. So right now, yes is the slight favorite at 1.72. No is an even two.

And I hear Jesse's already made this bet, so Jesse, tell us more. yeah i put a dollar down that they will both reach the 40 club and i also took the other william neilander bet that you have there under the dangles doozies that he will have over 42 and a half goals this season oh baby 43 goal willie yeah that's a lot that's that's a lot of willie season pretty hot yeah shelton keeps been yelling at him in public so i think he's gonna he's gonna get us out of the game i love it so you can find that right now dangles doozy section sports interaction.com slash sdpn or download the sports uh interaction app dave thanks so much and we'll see you friday thanks guys talk to you soon so jesse uh uh posted this uh posted a podcast

yesterday about the fanatics um sportswear deal if you don't know this fanatics is going to take over from adidas in 2024 for 10 years the podcast was it was pretty bad i mean listen what i would say is it's been bad lately oh yeah it's like a top five podcast on the network but it's been bad lately and probably won't do well in the podcast playoffs i think it's been bad since the podcast trade deadline oh that's true yes when it uh lost two guys and acquired six good good guys too i don't know if this applies to the podcast let me just say we are talking i don't know i don't remember asking you i don't know i don't know if any of those analogies apply my podcast to widow meter yeah it's very long at the moment with your podcast i don't know

the jesse blake sports report especially starting with the name but which still sucks do you remember that scene in the office where kevin was trying to analogies about angela and he's like the accounting was very whorish and then oscar's like that doesn't really apply to you lost the analogy there i forgot about that one that show is so fucking dark sometimes it's hilarious um do you think they can get away with that today that show some of the stuff i don't think so i fucking hate that oh you couldn't do diversity day yeah i don't i don't know maybe oh it's a fucking wild there's some stuff like michael clump like yeah yeah i don't know i don't know i don't know um so park exists yes you could yeah i think it's different with cartoons though cartoons

you can agree with a lot more shit yeah i remember this was network tv yeah like nbc came on thursdays at eight on nbs or thursdays at nine on mbc like compare that to the big bang theory you know remember the big bang theory thing where it's like they laugh this is not even a joke why are you laughing you just said shelton just said something it wasn't a joke oh my god he said something nerdy um zinga so so here's what i want to bring you to fanatics how's your ribs replacing adidas as the jersey sponsor slash maker steve's doing something did you bust a gut when i said bazinga okay um go ahead now when this originally came out and i'm gonna pull from greg wischinski's article on espn um sorry greg i don't know under i i don't understand

uh i didn't understand why this mattered and admittedly i am not a jersey person right i have jerseys i love jerseys but there are people that love jerseys they love the science of the jerseys they love to get into you know why is there 13 stems on the maple leaf well that's because they have 13 cups in the organization's history um and you know stuff like that and and the fabric whatever i'm like i don't care i just like that's the jersey that's available in the store i'm gonna put it on and it looks great make it look cool but from what i understand as a complete outsider on this and i'm only gonna i guess i'm gonna represent all the people that don't know anything about the garment industry in sports um fanatics is known for maybe not

perhaps always delivering on the highest quality am i am i right yeah their quality control has been suspect since they've uh taken over they've been trying to build a monopoly through the four major sports and including wwe now as well so you get a couple more sports in there um just the fans have been very unhappy with the consumer grade material that they get and their customer service has been lackluster their shipping is not up to par it usually takes sometimes it'll take months to get one item and then you'll get materials and people have been posting like the things they've gotten over the years you'll get things that are often misspelled and their print quality um seems to fail every couple years so you'll get peeling of logos on shirts you'll get names on backs

peeling off i've got a really that's what i'm trying to find i got a really funny one for you jesse i'm gonna i want you to bring this up on this is from this is one of the quote tweets from uh um uh greg's tweet and it's a philadelphia philly shirt and someone's like can't wait and it's just the way that it's done and there's i guess there's a whole twitter account devoted to the fact that it's at fanatic sucks uh and it's all the bad fanatics gear uh like somebody like the the misspelling of colton sisson's last name as completely martin they got they misspelled martin firk they spelled it fkr um oh man alan must have been on that like shit on velcro he must have been all over that just straight to the manufacturer you've got some balls

my name's alan walsh a sword through a jersey he must have been right on that oh man well so so here's here's what we got so that's that's where the concern comes from so so have a look at this philadelphia phillies t-shirt that's horrible this is bad how does that get shipped like how does that get manufactured there's no there's no real quality control when it comes to them but they're they're trying to build this giant monopoly and of the sports gear where yeah you compare they don't check with this stuff so so i guess there was some business practices that people don't like and listen with most businesses you're going to find practices you don't like but i i this one is particularly like it stands out i

guess and you said they were trying to become like the amazon of sportswear is that right yeah michael rubin's very ambitious and like there's there's some proof of concept here that they can handle the nhl on ice jerseys because uh not a lot of people know this but the mlb jerseys they're nike jerseys but nike contracts fanatics to make those jerseys with a nike nike logo on them oh so currently fanatics makes the mlb jerseys for nike and they just don't throw a fanatics logo on it they just put a nike jersey on them interesting and they're great jerseys like no one can play the players in the mlb don't complain about the uh nike jerseys that they're wearing and the same factory that adidas used to make the current jerseys for the nhl finax bought

that out they're gonna use that to make the new nhl jersey so but no one's concerned about how the on ice product is going to be though are they so everybody is worried about uh well two things the consumer level replica ones that you're going to buy in the store you're going to say i'm going to get an authentic jersey for 400 for 400 that's not the on ice one but the one they make for me and they're worried about that that quality is going to be ass and there's a lot of proof here that fanatics does not care about the quality control so the jerseys that you're going to get in the store who knows how authentic they're going to check your text messages steve just sent one for the screen i so we could post a million of these yeah there are so many some

of them are really funny by the way there's so many funny meme ones that it's difficult to find the real ones it's true um so here i just want to go through these because they're so good oh are you a big columbus blue jackets fan well then you're gonna love this bjork t and jersey because the s and the r fell off for everybody listening yeah the the letters peeled off on the s and the r and bork strand hey are you uh are you a hockey fan from the midwest well consider cheering for the st loose blues the eye is missing in st louis the eye is missing in st louis hey i bet you're excited to cheer on team canada so you need to get your number 16 connor beader jersey b-e-a-d-r-d connor beader

yo never had a burger i want to buy this jersey who are you and this this one is fucking crazy how does this get manufactured it's a winnipeg jets hat the logo is completely upside down oh yeah that's disrespectful it is 180 degrees upside down and dude like there's so many bad so fanatics has been doing this with the nhl on the fan level so they they make everything that's not the authentic or the replica jerseys they make the there's a they call it a breakaway jersey so there's a level of fanatics jersey that they make but the two higher above that the ones you get in the stores those were still made by adidas but yeah everything since uh 2017 has been made by fanatics for the nhl and this consumer grade stuff and it's just been awful quality for all of those

years okay so that's interesting so people are concerned there's two new ones okay there's two new ones these are actually i told you you can just do this we should do a whole show on this why are we not it's this so it's got two uh there it is it's got two of the ones that i just showed you but uh two two of the more famous ones insider j money who's a philadelphia listener of both the cj show he's a hardcore cj show listener and he kind of listens to us i guess the first one and the last one so oh you know what now i'm gonna finally remember minnesota wild captain jared's Spurgino. But the best part about that picture is Spurgeon signed it Spurgino.

Yeah. What a guy. Oh, no. Oh, he signed. That's incredible. You can just quote Spurgino. That's a very rare find. You could sell that for a lot of money.

You have a one of one. Yes. You have it. And it's now like infamous. And then can we go to the last one? This one actually took me a second to figure out what was wrong. Adam, can you spot immediately what is wrong? Yes.

Immediately. it says hughes which is correct it says 86 on the back which is correct it says 13 on both shoulders like that again like i know quality control and how does that get shipped and everything how does that get made how does that get made also are you saying hughes is the best player ever because 13 plus 86 adds up to 99 there's there's a strategy there with fanatics in terms of volume it's it's in terms of signing all of these contracts with all of these leagues to become the place for where people go uh to get fan branded content and our uh gear and it's not in terms of quality you know they want to just churn out all of these all of this fan gear and they're not really taking care

of the quality part of the side so so now and it's a 10-year deal gary stop signing a decade long deals with everything well you did it with the rogers deal you did it with the espn deal seven years you do with the fucking finance deals 10 years fucking stop maybe try something out for like five years and put a mutual extension on it listen if gary's so against long-term contracts why does he keep signing them yeah and also if i'm the nhlpa i'm going gary you want to limit our contracts to five years but your shitty broadcast contracts oh my god although the rogers deal is a good deal the rogers deal is a good deal it is it is without it you wouldn't have had picture dang it i know i'm not saying that i'm not taking a shot at sports that it's

a great that's a great deal for for the nhl it's always been a great deal gary needs to fucking calm down with these decade-long deals i'm talking about i'm talking about the outdoor life network deal i'm talking about the beginning of the deal before the nbc uh deal was awful you guys versus deal was awful you know what long i'm gonna say it i wish you guys were more supportive of ice surfing i watched it i watched every episode i put it on pvr sometimes sometimes i go on on the sports net now app and i look for it and it's not there i don't know why they didn't cry i'm gonna go two more hands to throw them with both steve and jason we're steve jeff and jason york when you need them yeah yeah where are they where are they where are they not being

supported by my friends the other thing that sucks for consumers and all this is we're not gonna have fun for a couple years so with the transition from adidas to fanatics and making the official jerseys they've asked the teams to like hey don't make any major changes to the logos keep everything kind of chill so 2026 is when they expect big changes can be made again with jerseys and they can all have the fun so it's gonna take a couple years here to get up and running with fanatics like so not soon yeah that's not soon at all they don't take over the deal till 2024 so i don't know what adidas might have planned already for next year but they're getting out of the business everything's gonna be trailing off anyways and they're getting out of the reverse

retros yeah so reverse retros are done done because that's an adidas concept that's an adidas they're going to leave that in the past and finance is going to come up with their own thing but they're not going to come up with their own thing until 2026 as they're going to take a couple years to get up and running with this so it's just it's a big l for the fan here so again the on ice product should remain largely untouched except no new on ice jerseys well well so literally untouched then yeah and then uh the but the fan product is what we're worried about yeah right and i think i can understand the the concern with that and i don't it it goes from a genuine mistrust like nba fans are not worried about the decisions adam adam silver is going to make about

a jersey because he knows that nba jerseys are a big part or am i wrong they have the nba has a serious problem right now with their city jerseys and they're being well there's too many milk city or whatever they did cream city they didn't do a good enough job selling cream city or the washington dick jerseys nba fans are pretty pissed off because you can turn on any nba game and you have no idea what two teams are wearing because they're playing they're they have so many of yeah so yes they need to they need to conduct they have a too many jerseys a problem and you'll turn on like the warriors are in like a purple jersey and then the raptors are in a like a yellow jersey and you're like well these aren't their color the raptors are in their primary white red

purple black gold so the nba has gone through a jersey crisis right now right too many years but but nobody's complaining about the the quality of them and and the thing about nba jerseys and this has been this is back to when we were kids and everybody had a michael jordan jersey i had a michael jordan jersey it was number 45 that was the year that he came back i had a michael jordan baseball jersey whoa it was a chicago bulls baseball jersey i don't know where my parents got that that's cool that's like one of those ones you find out like winners yeah yeah that is for sure where my parents bought it i'm not kidding now i but i'm saying the the the thing is is that nba jerseys are a part of the culture yeah not just fans but like uh uh like they are

mainstream culture you wear them on stage um and and you know hockey jerseys it's like wow holy smoke snoop dog wore a leafs jersey once let's talk about it for 10 years uh there's that picture of david letterman from the 70s in a leafs jersey you're like holy shit and it's like i i think i think that you know i wish that the nhl looked at it a little bit more like that tried a little bit more for that and if the quality sucks i mean people are still gonna buy jerseys but they are it will be less it will be less for sure so i wonder if that conversation about quality control ever made it into the because there was a pitch right and i don't know nike didn't pitch apparently under armor didn't pitch um so fanatics was the best pitch yeah and adidas was out so they

weren't even an option adidas doesn't want to do it anymore no they're getting out of hockey completely and nike like the thing is is that's that's another concerning thing we always talk about growth of the game nike adidas and reebok who you've had as jersey sponsors in the past don't want anything to do with it's a bit of a problem like i i didn't realize i was a bit surprised um by the backlash not that surprised because i know fanatics is unpopular but i'm surprised because i've never had a negative experience with them because i don't think i have any other stuff yeah i don't think i have any i don't think i do we're lucky to have uh the real sports apparel shop uh where we can get the fan gear from yeah and the nhl shop too right

well that would be from fanatics right so like here we can get some local shipping we can go down to the real sports apparel shop but a lot of fans are reliant on nhl shop and getting things from fanatics so right yeah sorry i meant the physical brick and mortar one at the at hockey hall of fame but you're right oh yeah yeah because we do have there's one there yeah because like that's the thing is they don't sell leaf stuff there it's like everybody else there's like messier jerseys in there and stuff like that i haven't been to hockey hall of fame in years i haven't either that's where steve steve got his engagement photos taken there oh no i i proposed oh you propose proposed there that's right and got engagement photo i don't know i

thought it was a clever idea it was clever she wanted it to be in a private place and i'm like you know where it's private a vault so we went to a vault i think it's cool it is cool i'm not making fun of it it's very fucking cool looking at me what else is cool ice surfing you piece of shit what were you saying before that about uh you were saying you were surprised by a little backlash and then you're saying something oh well because i know they're not popular but i've never had an experience because i don't have any of their stuff but i think it it should raise some alarm bells that all the people who do do have their stuff uh seem to be very upset about it can you real quick just pull up that picture because i want to show off my chicago bolsters

okay pull it up this deal reminds me a lot of the nbc deal it reminds me of or even like you go earlier in that it reminds me of them pulling out of espn like it it seems so hey we're going anti-big conglomerate we're going to this other thing in fanatics and we're not we're not signing with the the big apparel brand you know i don't know um this is steve in his bulls uh baseball jersey with my chris draper hockey card and chris draper this was in the second grade in 1996 and in case you're wondering yes 1996 fucking slapped look at that shit that's a really good that would work today it would i want i want it yeah it's cool if listen you all have like 350 days until my next birthday there is something about that black bulls jersey too like they just

is there i don't know the bulls to me have one of the best jerseys in sports one of the best logos in sports they're awesome helps when you win like how many losses did the bulls accumulate over those six championship seasons oh probably not very many i doubt it they're winning like what 55 60 games a year yeah anyway um it's the the reaction was fascinating i wondered if part of the super negative reaction to was a people are upset because they've had bad you know reaction to it in the past but second there wasn't a whole lot going on in the hockey world yesterday sometimes stories take off that you go if there was other things happening this might slip under the radar right well like if they if they had made this deal announcement during the trade deadline

people have been like fuck that sucks anyway what's my team trading for right no it's like they tried to maximize the dunkage by announcing it at like 6 30 in the morning it was 6 45 they did a press release and they're like okay this is gonna be the story of the day yeah let's get dunked starting in newfoundland with the morning commute i think just work our way across the continent we also underestimate how much people were anticipating this since adidas announced in june that they were pulling out people have been wondering like okay what's the next what's the next thing we're getting here like who's gonna be making these jerseys and there's a lot of jersey fans out there you know who are anticipating this stuff and they want to get new gear and

it was a big wet fart we should have pitched we should people are asking a couple people who are like you guys are up time to time to release more jerseys all right we got 10 years do you actually believe the people that are tweeting like because i made a joke about it uh on yesterday but like people like i'm gonna stock up for the next 10 years buy like three or four adidas jerseys no you're not stop that don't do that those people are not real now one thing i did want to ask is like you know people hate the ea sports model and that's essentially what this is but in the garment industry right ea sports owns most sports video games that's a good that's a very good comparison do you think that you know because the the nhl games for as many as much as we complain

about some of them like the other ea sports products that they put out fifa i know people complain about it but when i play fifa and i do play fifa it's unbelievable to me spectacular their baseball games are amazing their football games are like they don't make the uh baseball games they don't make baseball no that's uh sony they make mlb the show yeah it's not oh the show's not ea sports no okay sorry um okay well i love the show man i fucking love the show um uh their football games the ea sports football games are incredible like all the nfl stuff um is it possible that we were all wrong here and fanatics blows us out of the water because here's why it would benefit fanatics guys if fanatics wants to become the brand in sports apparel if they do a shit job

here what are the chances that the big sports the ones that are huge in like the nfl the nba and the mlb despite the fact that they make the jerseys for the mlb and put a nike logo on it what are the chances that those organizations look at them and go yeah we'll go with you uh so we can piss off our fans for 10 more years i think it's gonna be i think this is a prove it deal for them yeah and i think it could be good it's gonna be difficult for them to fail uh i think in terms of public perception you can't do much worse than this than what you've already done yeah simply spell names right and put logos on properly like have someone check things and there you go like everyone's um been advertising this or complaining about this like it's doom and gloom and it's going

to be the worst thing possible and i think it'll be a sigh of relief when it's not i think we're a step on the ladder to them getting the nba nfl and mlb and i think i do yeah and i think if they want to do that they have to do a good job because i'll guarantee you this the mlb maybe doesn't care about its fan as much but the nba does and they're not signing with anybody that fucks with their jersey that's an a walking ad for them everywhere all the time nba jerseys are never out of style ever and i i can't see it happening so i i think maybe there's a light at the end of the tunnel yeah i i left that kind of as an open question at the end of the show yesterday it's like okay now that we're in this situation let's hope they turn it around because that that's we're here

with 10 years scary signed up for we are here this is it let's hope that fanatics realizes the situation they're in they get all this stuff together they fix it and we get a good 10 years of jersey so it's 10 years that begins in 2026 2024 2024 okay so it goes till 2034 yeah leo will be in high school damn is he gonna get a jersey we'll see he's getting a jersey will it disintegrate stop it well did he do his fucking homework we'll see is he gonna say steve dangle's getting his kid a freaking jersey come on line on the back yeah because they miss oh you just you just triggered something from my childhood big time or steven glim dangola dangela i won i won this thing at like a there was it was like a summer camp games where like all these different summer

camps got together and we competed in something and i won i don't remember soccer shootout or something and they and put you on the podium and they announce you and steven glim because they combined the two ends into an m oh my gosh steven glim i won uh i was the mvp one year in double a and the you continue there's a kid in why there's a kid i i played couldn't make triple a huh t-ball with i played triple a next year there's a kid i played t-ball with i told you he played who uh was named jesse moore and then i went to i played like regular baseball once i was like i don't know 12 or whatever and you graduate out of that and then he played he played um we're using pitching machines that there's an actual pitcher and he won the mvp in his league and his name was jesse

moore and i was jesse blake and they switched up our mvp trophies so when i got my trophy it's a jesse moore and then when he got his for his league it said uh jesse blake and on the bottom of the trophy it said made by fanatics and my mom scratched out his name on my trophy and wrote in pen blake amazing what a mom i still have it so i love moms all right breaking news manscaped now selling beard products once again revolutionizing revolutionizing anizing beard revolutionizing i don't know like with the d on the end yeah they have a beard hedger pro kit um so a you know you can you know if you want to do a beard trim you want to do a fresh shave the technology behind the beard hedger pro kit allows you to shape your signature beard

look like jesse so i have this uh we all have it but i use a little bit more because i actually can grow a beard uh the the beard trimmer is so cool because you know how you have the different heads that you switch out for the different lengths of beard theirs is just a dial you turn and it has all the different things like i don't know how i don't know the technology but it's sick because there's none of the the little beard comb things that you need for the different lengths literally just turn this dial it's fucking fabulous they also have beard shampoo and conditioner beard oil and beard balm so you can style yours jesse if you grew your mustache out a little bit you could curl it on the end oh i think you got a little colonel sanders action

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The new line rushes are out as of right now. and according to dave alter friend of the show it's yarn croak matthews marner but yes sorry continue that's good that's a good yeah yeah right yeah uh bunting tavaris kneelander we love that's that's a good line it was okay i'm interested it wasn't great kerfoot achari lafferty who's in the middle uh achari interesting i'm sure that they'll switch off astin reese comp simmons um but one's missing uh i'm sure there is yeah oh mcmahon mcmahon uh yeah bobby's not it bobby's not drawn in wayne is uh and then in the uh the defensive pairings are as follow these are the the three that will play and then the last one is obviously i think

getting scratched mckay brody we like okay giordano hall we like that a lot better than riley hall yes riley shen okay but here's what's interesting is mccabe brody are listed as the first pairing second pairing giordano hall third pairing riley shen they've done that a few times recently and then gustavson lilligren would be sitting this next game not forever just the next game tim i've been rooting for him he's really let us down the last couple he muscled parise off the puck and i'm like good for you and then he immediately gave it away thanks tim that that rant was really worth it um now guys let me ask you something one thing that you that we can all agree on and islanders fans are pissed off about it this morning with the achari hit on

brock nelson which i can understand if that was a leaf player i'd be pissed off too no call would the nhl ever really make it obvious if a player complained and they had to demote a referee no no they have demoted referees yes and they did the way they punish referees is they like passive aggressively go you're just not going to do the playoffs yeah or you're not going to do round two playoff assignments that's right now the reason there's a reason i'm bringing this up by baseball and basketball also have crew chiefs and i don't really think the nhl has them no i don't think they do and it's just i like it's two refs and two linesmen but i believe they're equals okay well it's it while it's relevant to what you're about yeah so the nba

has recently demoted ben taylor who we played the clip uh last week uh raptors uh guard uh fred van vliet complaining about ben taylor he said ben taylor was fucking terrible and he was fined thirty thousand dollars this is these are all real quotes if you missed it but ben taylor who was fucking terrible uh has now been recognized as the league for being fucking terrible and is demoted in his assignments according to the fan 590 i uh i went to a raptors okc game last week and ben taylor was announced as one of the refs oh boy and he was booed very loudly and i gotta tell you he was on his best behavior interesting oh yeah well and listen we're human beings it's always possible for things to get personal or for you to have a

bad night or for you to make a mistake or whatever but you know the biggest part the vortex in six games the biggest part of being a ref is trying to avoid that impulse it's like everybody's capable of lying uh or or uh but you would hope that a judge tries to stay away from that impulse you see you know what i'm saying you see the kawaii tech yesterday no i didn't horrible oh i got attacked exactly why does it exactly and he didn't he barely i don't even know what he said i don't know what he could have said other than that was a fucking foul which it was by the way and he got tech and then a guy a trent man also on the clippers i think said something along the lines Of did you just fucking tech Kawhi Leonard

And he got thrown out of the game for it Wow Yeah so these guys are in a mood lately Do you have the numbers of his demotion I don't So it is Taylor has been crew chief In each of his previous 12 games Including the March 8th game

Of Toronto and the Clippers Where Van Fleet went on that rant Only twice this season has Taylor been The second referee Since the rant he has been the crew chief in just two of his last six assignments and this is a guy who's a 10-year nba referee who is usually the head crew chief do you guys see a pattern in the guys who are very long tenured having this problem because whenever i think these incidents come up it's not the referee who's been in the

game for like a year or a couple it's the guys who have been around for like a decade plus who are like i know these guys and i'm gonna i'm gonna call the game this way and they're not gonna get my way and they seem to be the ones who take more liberties with calling the game as it should be called and instead calling it the way that they want to from their personal nature and their game management whatever they want to do i think it's human nature the younger refs probably don't want to make waves and at the same time the older refs maybe take it for granted a little bit and you know some guys yapping at you and you've been in the league longer than he has even though you haven't been in the league at all, you are

an official, but you look at it, you look at it that way, right? I wonder if maybe they look at it that way and I'm not, you know, I see a lot of people like, fire them. No, listen. Fire them. No, no, nobody's asking

for that. But sometimes you get a little talking to and a reprimand at work and you don't like it and you feel bad about it and then you go right back to the way it was except you're behaving differently and i think that's totally fine i mean it seemed those numbers are pretty bad like the the fred van vliet numbers with him you can't tell me that's not personal

and this is his little reminder you can't do that what are those things out of you would remember what are those things they put you on when they're trying to try to fire you but they need reasons for hr performance improvement plan yeah they put you on a performance improvement plan where it's like uh you have to meet with your boss every couple of weeks and and like the first off they start you off with like you're meeting with the hr and boss and then they then you then you chat and then you talk about how they don't like your performance and they want you to improve and then you have to like it's it's almost like trying to get out of detention say less speak vaguely agree to nothing yeah and then you and then you have to meet every week every week every

week and if your important performance doesn't improve by based on their metrics then you're gone and they have to have a that way is is so they can't get to exactly and their metrics are always kind of shifty you know they're like oh well this wasn't up to par even though it's kind of like i didn't even know that was a part of my job well you should have run if they ask you to sign something on the way out don't yeah no oh that's always the rule um so i think i think with that you know i like it's it's at least there's some accountability there even if the nba is not going to come out with it and with the amount of officiating issues um over you know i would say the last couple of years especially in the nhl since you know uh tv screens got better since

replay was far easier to access um the egregiousness of some of the nhl calls especially from veteran officials that you would expect more from uh it's one of those things that i think the nhl is going to try to ignore for a couple more years and then finally are going to have to address well like i don't think anyone's saying uh these guys don't have a really difficult job but yeah that's always the thing though when you say hey the ref did this or wait that job is fucking hard yeah no one's saying it's not but they're professionals well worth noting you know what's difficult playing in the nba so can you please get out of my way yeah um yeah but uh what the nba has is the ability to make the official's job a little easier and you can review stuff now and in in

important moments of the game and i was talking to someone recently wouldn't it help to have an okay you know how if a goal goes in but no one catches it yep there's the the horn of the hockey gods that goes and it blows however long later to be like oh no we need to review this we think the puck might have gone in can we get that with an eye in the sky official we talked about this we've done this they have in the nfl like they have a they have a dude that's just like oh that was a mistake that was actually not a fumble do it nobody has to challenge it's just a it's just a imaginary referee who just makes corrects the mistakes that are egregious and the nhl should have that yeah no league should have i don't want it every fucking shift no no i don't want that to

happen but if you can make the decision within 10 15 seconds something like that yeah no that's exactly how it should be i don't know why they wouldn't just employ that extra person for every game and just sit sit up there and fucking yeah that's obvious and change it it's not a slight against officiating hey your job is hard we know and that's why we got you some help and maybe we can take a couple of them off the ice if we had somebody upstairs i think there's too many there's too many skaters on the ice get get two of those guys out of there i you know what i would okay uh One line's been one official. That's it.

Thank you. The NHLPA player poll recently came out. I want to know which official gets in the way the most. Oh, that's a good question. There's so many plays in the corner where I'm like, get the fuck out of the... Oh, yeah. Wow. There's that infamous Tyler Sagan clip.

I want you all to look it up where he goes. He's right by the mic and the ref is in his way as he's trying to evade the defender. He goes, there you are. There you are again. and the official's like where do you want me to fucking go something like the extra referee in the in the sky and like we've seen it in other sports like they have it the nfl as i mentioned something like that seems so easy yes and like us three idiots sitting around in a fucking mic can just be like oh let's just do this let's solve a lot

of problems but they don't want to do something like that that just seems so simple i don't know maybe it should be that simple like there's an easy fix here guys yes well and it would just catch the really really easy one yeah that's all we're asking but like i don't know this giant billion dollar corporation can't see an easy fix like that we we can review the double miners that are called but not the ones that aren't and we can't take away the penalty we can only reduce it hey this guy's bleeding but we don't have time to investigate no we can't have a guy just be like oh yeah that was a call just fucking correct it get in the mic like okay that's it here's a great example uh brock nelson the play stopped yesterday i believe because

brock nelson was down we should maybe be able to look at that hey how come he's down we should probably be able to look at that no why is he down and bleeding from the face ah i'm sure he just fell anytime there's blood why can't you just be like oh maybe the ref missed it let's go just no replay for literally 10 seconds they show it on the broadcast the guy in the truck just hits the replay button or you have the sky official go hey guys uh you missed a high stick with blood so years ago in sports uh the one sports broadcasting class that my program offered now there's an entire program um they talked about how they wouldn't show certain replays at the skydome because they didn't want to show up the umpires it was against mlb rules for a long

time and then they corrected it and it's been maybe an overcorrection yeah because now every building on the giant screen goes, look what these fucking idiots did. It's awesome. I love that. Oh, I mean, me too. It definitely, it adds to the atmosphere and you get the fans. You get the guys on the bench.

Every time something egregious happens, Michael Button's just looking up at the fucking Jumbotron. Oh yeah, no, that was a penalty. You guys missed it. I love these statues still. Yeah. He just He just gets up and starts losing his mind.

Yeah. Marner's really good at that. Marner, yeah. From the passive-aggressive standpoint, he doesn't really yell. He did that last night. Yeah, he just looks up and then he does, he likes the arms up head shake. He loves that. He loves that.

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Minnesota Whitecaps. First time in team history. They're going to win. At the mall. Because that's how it works. I think so. This is their second? Third year being on team? Oh. It's pretty impressive. It was during COVID. Do not ask me time frames during

COVID. But yes. Yes. Yes. It seems like just yesterday, Lindsay Eastwood scored the first goal in franchise history and now here they are competing for the isabel cup yeah yeah sunday nice let's go um so listen i uh i also want to say this brad marshand has left twitter as of today oh no who's gonna own me now i think brad marshand probably temporarily deactivated his account because they're god they got to focus on let's play off that exactly he doesn't he doesn't need to be doom scrolling does he that's maturity no that's a winner's

mentality right there yeah yeah that's you know when they win game seven it's going to be because of that yeah definitely it won't be because they're really good no no couldn't be that's um i i can't remember if it was 2018 or 2019 when they beat the leafs and they just kept showing on the broadcast over and over again him like just standing really still looking super concentrated during the anthems and i'm like i think they beat the leafs because they were they played better no no it was the it was the laser focus of brad you know what the mississauga steelheads when i was there they had this thing where they would stand completely still like statuesque for the anthem and it was meant to be like an intimidation tactic and i gotta tell you it didn't work

they weren't great they allowed a lot of goals well it's good that you know i mean listen it's that's kind of the way it's got to be right it's you got it you got to try something and if it works it works and the trick is to try it in the finals when everything's on the line definitely don't try it out all year um beyond that um i wanted to make room for just a bit of a longer press conference today because we didn't get to one last time so can we do that let's go go let the presser sdp the steve dangle press conference all right julian 1124 has a bone to pick with steve and adam uh steve and adam steve and i have made a lot of references to carolina's second round hump stump the steve

When was the last time the Carolina made it to the third round? Okay. So they lost in the cup final in 2002. They won the cup in 2006. I can't look it up. I want to say... I'm not looking it up.

It's not for Steve. I'm not participating. No, I said for Steve and Adam. Oh. Well, I'm also not looking it up. Look, it's Twitter. Was it 2006? No.

I'm going to say, I'm going to say 20. It's going to be a weird year, like 2012. Hmm. The Coyotes did that too that year, didn't they? Coyotes went with Mike Smith. He was on like a heater. Was it 2012? No, you're incorrect.

All right. I have no idea. 2016. 2022 No idea Shut up The answer is I'm sure they've forgotten this one

There is no hub 2019 they played the Bruins in the conference final That year the Blues won This was very recent So I think the second round Comp thing about the Carolina Hurricanes Isn't really correct because they're in the conference final In 2019

It's still correct because that was four years ago So sorry did they four seasons ago who did they beat the bruins no shut up like who did they uh like on the road to get there oh to go to the conference final i said what do you mean shut up i didn't know what you're talking about shut up shut up you said who did they beat i answered the fucking question shut up hurricanes wiki playoffs give me 18 seconds oh my god that's so many seconds i will let you know who they played so in the uh 2019 playoffs they beat the rangers uh no in the 29 they beat the capitals then the islanders then they got swept by the

bruins they swept the islanders 4-0 they won in seven games versus the caps and then yeah they got swept by no i no recollection there you go wow all right sorry to this man i do yeah i do not remember i mean it's still the it's still true though the quote second round hump has been literally just two seasons uh last year and the year before how many humps does a camel have exactly rest my case what about hey why was wrong nah fair steve you misremembered a hockey thing i'm sorry how dare you i'm sorry also i think the reason we call it the second round hump is not because they've hit the second round it's because we

always expect them to go further it's a compliment to the carolina hurricanes because we expect that the hurricane should be a lock for the conference final and they haven't been they went once like we expect the leafs fourth or fifth place in the league to do better than lose in the first round and yet they don't the all the little minions in my head are running around frantically trying to find that folder and it's not there it's not there it's not there and honestly there's like a there's a point i think in 2019 to 2020 where after the rafters win the championship everly was born i can't remember anything i don't know anything nothing uh we owe a special shout out to alan walsh because today uh bruce springsteen received

some sort of medal of freedom from president biden so it's a big day for alan no congrats was alan there no he's outside like come on let me in i want a picture of him with biden i bet he's got one i bet he's got one no one alan he's got one he was just uh he was tweeting about it a lot today by the way you should check out uh the show we did with him uh we did no not bruce uh not yet we talked about three things we talked about a halifax fan a moose heads fan being a big druan fan and how alan like got a hold of his number and called him and i was like you just called a random fan he's like yeah yeah and so they you got to meet jonathan druan's good story talks about a lot about the diamond sports media bankruptcy which is obviously bally which

affects like 12 of the nhl teams some major markets like la tampa in there the big deal um third of the league yeah like really fascinating stuff and and like the thing is is that um yeah everybody's worried about like well they're just gonna go off the air now and it's like well no they've made the payment yeah like they're the payments are done it's that that you know and then we talked about sort of how that might affect the salary cap right and the nhl smartly from the nhl's perspective is gonna say yeah the cap could go up this year but the problem is next year what what would we do without ballot and the reality is they'll be fine but it's a negotiation point what can we get from the players so that the salary cap will go up this offseason

it's a fact it is a really interesting episode like it the business of hockey continues to fascinate me um this one's from k-town 2272 i thought it was very funny um because i don't think you can do it can you name four of the top 10 scorers in florida panthers history combine your brains for the top 10 they said okay uh how many top 20 scorers in panthers history can you name but i'm i'm editing that a little i just want you to name four of the guys on the top 10 all-time floor only okan is number one you got one ed jovanovsky no no damn oh uh Oli Okunin is not number one, but he's in the top ten. Okay, so Oli Okunin for sure.

Are both Barkov and Huberto in there? Yes. They are one and two. You are kidding. Oli used to be number one, right? Yes. They both passed him. I wanted to know that.

He's number three. Yeah. No, four is a little too little. Because you got three and you just need one more. And I think you get the one more. Maybe five. Five's a good number. It's too bad Pavel Bury wasn't there for longer.

Because, man, he was good there. He's just insane Jay Bowmeister Jay Bowmeister is number 16 That's hilarious that he was there that long And it didn't even crack the top 10 Okay Scott Mellenby

Scott Mellenby is Number 5 Yay That's 4 You won You beat the goal but I raised it to 5 So I can't give you one more i'm not tremendously proud of this guess do it christian husselius

incorrect yeah i remember yeah i do he was useful you're missing you're missing the one one obvious is it obvious it was barkov huberto yokanen and then scott mellenby is a great guess so i think that wins it for you but then there's one more obvious guy like probably late like like more recent aaron ekblad aaron ekblad number six yeah number six the top 10 scores in florida panthers history look at this fucking list yo barkoff huberto yokan in stephen weiss oh i remember mellenby aaron ekblad number seven nathan horton yeah Victor Kozlov

Kozlov Robert Give me that Roberts Vela Roberts Vela Former Leaf Former Leaf Roberts Vela Number 10 all time

Florida Panthers scorer Vincent Trocek Holy shit Number 11 Radek Dvorak Whoa Rob Niedermeyer 12 13 as Bure

Only played 223 career games Keith Yandel is 14 I thought about Yandel Ray Whitney Jay Bomeester Dadonov nick bukestad oh my freaking brian campbell david booth dude burying david booth burying the lead all-time scorer only six only six players six have ever played or sorry only six players have

ever scored 300 points or more in a panthers uniform oh that sucks hold they haven't given their fans a lot to cheer about honestly they haven't they haven't yeah it's been a lot of it's only been 20 years as a franchise 20 30 30 years no man almost 1993 oh no 96 is when they became a franchise because that's the first year they were in and then they went right to the finals yes yes yes um john van beesbrook yeah nearly 30 years and it's a it's a dark list still the worst stat in the franchise's entire history is roberto luongo played six playoff games with them oh gosh what a guy oh you're right sorry steve 93 94 i'm wrong oh it was the avalanches first year in colorado uh i was like that's that sounds right yeah no i'm an idiot

i'm just yeah 30 years right yeah sheesh i can't believe that wow yeah it's uh it's a bleak list um next question comes from uh we've kind of i think we've done this before your favorite jerseys uh what would the sdp picks for their top five jerseys added this season be sorry one more time this is from vent gremlin can you give a top five jerseys that were added back this year so they have uh the buffa slug is up there all the reverse retro slick yeah oh the the red and black buffalo one can go on that list yeah that's great um are we just talking reverse retro here i guess that we've sort of done that right yeah we did we did our we did a full top five yeah reverse the black and red buffalo is not reverse retro yeah that was an addition right no an

alternate it's that but in their blue and gold cover uh colors i like what they were going for it doesn't do it i like i like what the uh sharks did with the california golden seals that was cool that's a cool one yeah this is from lady gainhart are you excited for the return of slam ball hell yeah yes i am i used to watch out on spike yeah i think we all did it was torture no one at school wanted to talk about it and i'd be like i don't know i loved it i don't know we should have gone to the same school we should have because slam ball was sick oh also roller derby i think that here's the thing with slam ball is that like the the problem was that no mainstream outlet took it seriously and i think now if you because like you need highlighted you needed at

least at that time for highlights to show up on on sports center but now you got tiktok the internet and the slam ball thing is is viral again on tiktok because the the dunks were crazy so if you can get the average sports fan to kind of take it seriously uh that was the thing it was a scene it was seen as like a a novelty thing rather than like you know it was like the i'm too sexy of sports right you know like it's just not a song that or a sport that people took seriously i i kind of wonder if people looked at the success of big three um and said well what about the trampoline one so for those of you who don't know or remember what we're talking about this is basketball with trampolines and it's fucking nuts yeah it's pretty wild it rules

yeah it rules the fouls were nuts too they also don't dribble right they they just carry they you got to dribble in between the areas of the trampoline there's a certain amount of like jumps too isn't there or something like that yeah i think it's like a hop step you can do you know like you're not allowed to just stay jumping on the same traveling steve obviously they call that all the time ben taylor new gig challenge uh next next thing i'm in the press conference i wanted to read to you these stats from the calgary flame broadcast um about the flame season and get your thoughts on uh how the flames year has gone games decided by one goal 41 most in the nhl losses in one goal games 26 most in the nhl overtime slash shootout losses

15 most in the nhl post hit 77 most in the nhl third period comeback wins zero fewest in the nhl oh my god losses when out shooting opponents by 10 plus 21 most in nhl history 21 most ever what the hell happened in calgary so do you remember what you said was it last episode or the episode before where you and we've made it into a tiktok but like you were saying that like all the flames might just be hard luck and they'll be back and really good next year and you you don't quite believe that with this team like you know oh their pdo pdo sucks and whatever you know like you could have made that argument in the past and you said i just don't know if they have it listening to all that it does make you think how

the fuck could they not have what their their their luck is so ridiculously shit and they cannot score like they can't finish but they're getting shots those stats are brutal they can't markstrom is unusable he's unusable he's and that makes it worse yes that makes it worse vladar hasn't been much better uh the fan base i'm now learning is completely tortured over the non-use of they have one of the best goalie prospects in the world does anyone know that yeah he's a child though he's 21 but like yeah yeah what are you gonna do what try him now what's dude it's the success of The Calgary Flames could easily go on a run over the next two, three weeks and make the playoffs.

They could. They could. How many points out are they? Like five? I'll pull it up. I don't know. If I'm them, I want to suck, so then the head coach gets fired.

There is four points back. I think it was Boomer in Calgary was saying yesterday that I think the players have already told the organization or there's there's scuttlebutt that there are certain players within the organization who if sutter is back they will refuse to show up yeah like i'm not trying to win any games i'm trying to make the playoffs i'm not trying to spend another hour with that coach i'm trying to get out 82 games and uh hopefully next year i show up to training camp it is a lot better i'd put money on the flames being in the playoffs next year they next year yeah they should not be

like it's funny all those things are going wrong and they're they still might make it no they're not making they're probably not going to but they might no no you're just putting your foot down yeah nashville's got a better shot right now jesse refuses oh i was about to say you know the jet stink too right nashville is looking good we we talked before the show about season-long bets that we made that are going to hit uh mine was uh over under 3.5 canadian teams making the playoffs i took the under so you would be edmonton toronto toronto and one of calgary or winnipeg but not both and winnipeg yeah and then you get three yeah no you're gonna hit that yeah seattle would have to go in the shitter and so would nashville yeah no it's not happening winnipeg is going to

be in the playoffs i think but um piggybacking off of the calgary stats winnipeg stats i saw on the tsn broadcast going into yesterday's games i'm gonna read these to you guys blake wheeler hasn't scored in 17 games oh kyle connor hasn't scored in march oh whoa mark shifley has two assists in five games no goals the jets are oh for 21 in their last 21 power plays whoa they have been shut out in two of their last three games allowed the first goal in nine of their last 10 games and i'm sure nikolai ehlers eight minutes a game man i don't get it man that uh that team really is turning into a pumpkin aren't they hot start and just limping into the playoffs If the Preds make it,

David Poyle has to un-retire. Like you got rid of Matthias Ekholm, you sold at the deadline, and you're going to leapfrog like several teams. Who's the guy they sold to Tampa again? What was the name? What was that question? They sold the guy to Tampa.

Who did they sell? Oh, Tanner Jeannot. They got six assets for Tanner Jeannot and they might make the playoffs. Tanner Jeannot, apparently in his first 12 games in Tampa, but was held to zero shots in eight of those games. You know, I know it's Tampa, and they get all the benefit of the doubt

because they earned it and deserve it. Don't say it, because we're not... Watch, he'll be an all-star in the playoffs. You're right. Don't say it. Do not go there. You're right, never fucking mind. All I'm talking about is the past.

Don't talk about the future. Brandon Hagel had a bad start with Tampa, and then the playoffs started, and he decided he was God. And he was. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

God would draw eight penalties in seven games. but not austin matthews or conor mcdavid apparently not well jesse that's a shitload of hits yeah wow he's got a lot of pretenders you know yeah i'm just counting up the games where he has zero shots it's uh one two three there's a lot of zero five six seven eight nine it's nine out of 11 games in his first start with tampa zero shots on goal and then he had a four goal, a four shot game. Is that even his job? No, I guess. Is that an unfair thing to put

at him? He's got no goals. Is that unfair? He had over 20 goals last year. But is that unfair? That may not be his role. You can take one shot. The last time Tanner Janot scored a goal was January 26th when he played for the press. When's the next time

the Lightning play leaves? They play him one time. Just get it out of the way. Just get it out of the way. Congrats, Tanner. good on you yeah you're probably right you're probably right you're probably right um do you guys see how great the world baseball classic ending yes no yes no unbelievable i wish it never happened are you keith olbermann by the way that what keith olbermann would never talk like that and

shit his diaper what are you talking about that's not who i was portraying the um the uh the mexico japan game was unbelievable oh yeah the walk-off victory i forget which baseball player from mexico he's a great player in the mlb i forgot to do anyway they're like what do you expect from uh the pitcher from japan and the pitchers from japan by the way is considered the best pitcher outside of the mlb in the entire world he's like i expect him to lose i was like oh there we go let's go and then this is how i watched it out of principle nobody listening somebody gets injured i covered my eyes won't somebody think of the billionaires huh who said that it was crazy and then seeing shohei otani strike out mike trout wow the end

so win the world the championship the count was three and two the score was three and two come on did you see that ridiculous uh trout stat otani stat no from codify baseball if you aren't impressed you should be mike trout has had three swinging strikes on uh in only 24 of his 6174 career mlb plate appearances shoey atani did something to mike trout that he's only done 24 times out of nearly 6200 wow at the world baseball classic holy wow shit and their teammates And they never make the playoffs I don't understand Boo

Please surround these people with people This is just breaking now A Toronto billionaire Is in the mix to buy the Washington Commanders Of the NFL You bought the Washington Commanders? No, it's Mr. Steve Apostolopoulos He is the managing partner of the triple group

Of companies, they're a real estate firm Specializing in the purchase, leasing, development And management of commercial space did you have to sell your gold to get into that business i am not in that business steve apostolopoulos looks uh pretty pretty good that's a pretty good is that your is that your pseudonym that you're going by now and i don't i don't own and i am not the founder of six ventures inc a private equity venture fund how many consecutive shows is berkshire going to have to work with covid in order for you to pay for this are you gonna use taxpayer money

to build a new stadium oh for sure man yo that's washington dc that is the that's the the center of of socialism yeah if i have a corporate socialism oh i forgot to tell you before the show there was a package at your door from b farve oh my god is that related i just need to know if that's related just because he stole from children it's him in his backyard taking naked pictures in his crocs yeah oh my god and then stealing from children yeah yeah he really packs his days good guy good guy guy good guy what is it jesse oh just just wondering your thoughts on welfare allegedly has not been proven in court hasn't been proven in court that he stole from children right it's just he's been accused of stealing from children right steve lots of

money adam last one this is from mavid the boy okay i don't know if you guys can combine your mic it's making a sound over here i don't know what you guys don't do what steve tells you i I don't like it. Oh, see what it's doing? Yeah, make sure. I've met. Hi, I'm Jeff Blair. You do sound like Jeff Blair.

This is the Dangle Dial. Bring it on, Steve Dangle. Hi, Jeff. Actually, it's Ken on line two. I think you pressed the wrong button there, Jack. You know, it's okay. Sometimes things happen. And remember, with the New York Lottery, or the New Jersey State Lottery.

Sorry, Adam. You know who was great? Ken. Paul Quantrill When he was When he was Pitcher for the Blue Jays Back in the day

Paul Quantrill Was fantastic Does he have a son In the big In the show Paul Quantrill Sees his kids In Double A now

Playing for the Fisher Cats You just reminded me Something that I owed Someone that I met At a Leaf game last week They said Steve

You know how you said No one is actually Subwoofer guy He goes I'm subwoofer guy No And I told you Really

And I told you I would do this oh my god sorry don't do that that's bad no it's not you shouldn't do it no it's not but i appreciated it i have to mute that part all right there's the last one all right steve adam mavid the boy would be interested to know what the guys perfect what your guys is perfect player build is so they got a bunch of elements here you got hockey head so like how they think of the game legs speed and skating hands deking

and skills arms shot size present strength on the puck shithousery abilities general rattiness so let's go through them you can't use multiple players on each category and we got to build Your Perfect Hockey Player. Start at the top. Hockey head. So this is the way they think the game. We do all time, right? We don't have to do current players.

Let's do current. Let's do active. Oh, Crosby. Yeah. I want to use Crosby for other things, though. And so that is why, and there's a few people I want to use for other things, that is why I'm going to go with Leon Dreisaitl.

That guy's a thinker. I'm going to go off the board. Someone who we forgot to draft. Sasha Barkov. Oh, that's a good one. You guys got to pick one. Oh, we got to pick one? We got to pick one perfect hockey player.

Okay, go with Steve. Oh, no. Well, then let's agree on that. Okay, you guys can make your two. Thank you. Okay, Barkov. Dry side. Okay, you guys can make your two hockey players.

Your legs, speed, and skating. I mean, it has to be me, David. Conor and David. Hands. Sidney Crosby. Oh, no. Sidney Crosby's hands in tight. Absolutely.

His edge work is better than his hands. I don't care. I'll take the hands. I'll take the hands. There's lots of people that can do edge work. There's not a lot of people that can handle a puck like he can within a square foot. No. If I'm doing hands, it's Tate Thompson.

No. Oh. That's good. I like that. I like that. Intelligence, I'd still take Crosby. I mean, if I'm just doing hands, can I do Zegers? Yeah, yeah.

It's literally just hands. You're probably the right pick Arms Shot That's an easy one for me Is there anyone Other than Ovechkin to pick? Oh I think there can't

Who does a really good snapshot? I mean Ovechkin Slapshot, wrist shot, Ovechkin I'm trying to go outside of Ovechkin Because Ovechkin's got a fucking cannon Oh I got it, you're trying to be difficult I want to be difficult about this.

I mean, there's Matthews. Can I... Yeah, Matthews got a great shot. Pasternak? Oh. I might have to go Pasternak. I'm going to go Pasternak. And you can go Pasternak, too.

I mean, listen, I thought you were going Ovechkin, so I was at least being difficult and going Pasternak. I'm going Ovechkin. Okay. What are you doing? The correct answer, if you don't want to pick Ovechkin, is Auston Matthews. The little snapshot that he has from any different area on the ice,

I think would be the correct answer. I want to say Mitch Marner. Shot, wow. A lot better than we thought. Out of everybody in the game, you're picking Mitch Marner? No, no, I already said I'm picking Marner. I'm just giving Mitch a little shout out here, okay? Okay.

Homer. Okay. You sound like Toronto Laughs podcast. Yeah, it's almost like I'm a fan. All right, anyway, let's keep going. Size. Presence, strength on the puck. See, those two things are different.

Size and presence on the puck. That's another good one for Crosby If you were going Crosby on something Yeah except he's 5'11 But like presence on the puck Yeah like I feel like those should be two different categories Right? Well they're not They're not

So size and presence on the puck If we're going with a combination of the two Size is the name of the category Josh Anderson versus the Leafs only Size is the name of the category And then the skill in that is Presence slash strength on the puck I'm going to go Tate Thompson

i'm gonna go victor headman oh that's a good one good call good call yeah jesse thompson does seem like the obvious pick you already picked tage thompson for something hands no doubles no doubles it's a rule i made up just now yeah i didn't pick tage thompson well good because you're good i'm gonna go with keith yandel sports net analyst keith yandel there it is you didn't see the new addition to the set did you no what is it no it's an anson carter figure that you found that i found at a store in ajax that's cool i like that did you who did you deliver it to uh producer colin came and picked it up from my house and dropped it off i was like i love that because i know you didn't go to rogers nope sure didn't this is as far my house

is as far as close to downtown as steve will get unless he's going to a game correct all right keep going jess um for for strength on the puck at the isn't that what we just did yeah i didn't pick anybody yeah you did you pick keith yandel all right i'll pick keith yandel no you don't this is general rattiness i think i think his name's in there it's probably brad marchand right i kind of has to be yeah there's nobody that even really comes close at this point like because there's like brad marchand is like a fun villain most of the time uh and then there was like villain villains like matt cook and matt kucherov oh kucherov's good one because he but he loses his temper like brad never does no exactly kucherov's fire sometimes works against him

how often does brad's right it's very rare and you know what naz is another guy that i'd put on that he's a shithead yeah it works against him though yeah it can but it hasn't lately it seems like he's got a handle on nothing is on the line in calgary yeah it's been like what well they won the 20 months since his last playoff ending suspension okay that's fair but they did win a cup in the meantime yeah okay yeah all right all right i'm going brad be rad you can go be rad oh yeah i'm going to be red yeah and that's it all right i like that yeah no players all right all right now somebody put that together in nhl and uh play is that even possible i don't know it's like maximum everything yeah 99 i remember you used to be able to do that in nhl you used

to be able to just be like okay how good are you at all these things and like i would just put it like 99 and everything yeah i was like wow it's crazy how good i am how did this happen i used to like for fun make a fantasy team of all funny looking dudes who uh are 50 attributes and everything i turned the injuries way up and i would just be like team canada and just and just just test run them all over i definitely should have been put on a watch list for that like oh thank thank god you didn't make seven foot hockey players who are black and then they're called the the george floyds that's that's all the kids do to these days all right let's end the show It's true.

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