The Steve Dangle Podcast - Zombies | May 1, 2024

Episode Date: May 1, 2024

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it um all right so today I fully expected this to be a funeral and it isn't is that why we wore black yeah i think that's what it is um uh i also think i find it slimming so that's why i'm wearing my black but uh guys it looks hot guys uh the trot maple leafs are alive it's so like they're so back and you think they're back they're so back no you know what it was over uh-huh it was very jover but now i i think we've never been more back simply the backest we've ever been the backest we've ever been baby got back in the series that's right matthew nice who was friggin awesome all game all game and i think there's a couple teams looking to shake uh their reputation as playoff chokers the great thing is that one of them has to win and one of them has

to lose are you talking about the bruins shaking their shaking themselves as a playoff choker how many consecutive uh games where they could eliminate an opponent have they lost is that five now uh well three against the panthers okay for one against lee so four and then i don't know how 2022 you gotta go back to the previous playoffs let me go look here i'll do it no jesse's gonna go look he's on the laptop i who did they even play in 2022 trying to remember i can't remember either but they i bet they choked though i bet they choked that's all they do is choke they did it again they did it again they could have wrapped it in five yep just like everybody thought the bruins are the ones we're talking about choking 100 they could have wrapped

it in in game five in overtime in boston but they blew it but enough about last year's series against the panthers matthew nyes with the winner what do you got jess bruins panthers it was in 2022 oh again uh no bruins carolina sorry that was 2023 bruins carolina's 2022 they lost in seven games so they were they the team let's who was up three two but either way steve the seventh game is an elimination yeah there's at least that's one so five yeah bruins hurricanes the bruins had to win game six oh so five straight yeah five straight games where they could have won a series and they've lost all of them there's a team that uh i believe is near and dear to our hearts who we often criticize for things of that nature and the bruins i mean the leafs have won

an elimination game a lot more recently than that stop it i don't remember that series at all i don't either bruins hurricanes 2022 wow not a single thing no no no sorry sorry i mean i don't remember every series the last bruins playoff series win is 2021 they beat the caps in the first round that's the 2020 2021 season wow wait they haven't made it to the second round since 2021 there's three no if you include this year they haven't made it yet so it's two consecutive seasons they lost in the first round boy man i can't imagine what that's like no not us not us imagine can you imagine the leafs have been in the second round more recently than the bruins listen hey hey listen let us talk our shit we deserve to well okay i i do want to say that we

no no no no you can you can you can talk you can enjoy but i think i think that this game was the reason why people were so upset after game four because you know that the talent is there and you know that they weren't bringing it dude it happens so often they're like oh i guess we got to buckle down like their record they posted it uh uh during the broadcast their record without matthews is stupid stupid and one of the things they always do so well even though matthews is like an extremely good defensive forward is they lock it down. They start paying attention to details.

They miss details once in this damn game and it costs them a goal. Yeah, that Trent Frederick goal. They only had like, was that the first or second shot of the game for the Bruins? It was their second shot of the game. Second shot.

Wohl had as many. He was arguably the Leafs' first star and heading into the second period, he had as many saves as he had goals allowed. Wow. and like they got some saves they played tidy defense max domi really elevated his game going from not playing center really to centering the top line first line center is uh pretty difficult

i like minch's game here's what max domi said playing for our lives we weren't going to be denied oh that quote that's a good quote come on come on are you going through the game are we doing the normal thing do you want to go through it period by period nope canuck spreads uh so so so i think the the first thing is that obviously you get that initial jump in the first period and the way that the leafs come out again this is why leaf fans get so upset i know and that's why it's so frustrating when sheldon keeps like you can't question the effort because this game is proof that you can question the effort i will kick you down the stairs right yes it's it's it is it's proof like they they came out and they were shot out of a cannon and they were awesome and they get

a when you when you play like that when you create turnovers when you create opportunities you get weird goals dude you know what they did to lead to the first goal for the first time this damn series drove the net well well not just that both goals but uh yeah yeah i i well it's you get weird goals you get jake mccabe with a floater and somehow it gets that shouldn't go in that shouldn't go in but there are goals like that in the nhl because it's a flying disc that are going to go in they were the leafs were so good at taking away andre vasilevsky's eyes uh last year and they haven't done a lick of that it's the same coach it's mostly the same personnel if anything the leafs team this year is better built especially in the top six to do what they did last year

and there's just been none of it none of it they've been winning face-offs all series set how ironic is it that mitch marner helped uh uh he assisted on a goal off a set play off a draw i guess they work sometimes i guess they work sometimes maybe he was right maybe he was right and it was william kneelander who was wrong the thing i think about that first goal that i think about the most is max domi's first period face-off stats like it's that's how they got that first goal he wins that faceoff but i think it was nine and one it was nine for 11 that's crazy stupid it was he was unreal in the faceoff dot and that was a faceoff win mitch marner passes it back right to mccabe and it goes in and seeing everybody step up in place of matthews just so early on was

incredible to see and you saw there there was playing with a sense of urgency and like you come out playing with that and the bruins look nervous very early on and if we get to the next part after that's the trent frederick goal like i don't blame glaze for that goal at all it hit off a heel well the heel of a skate robertson was doing a lot of standing around but he was but i feel like everybody was kind of in position like i i get like you want to go up the boards but if a guy's they said on the broadcast of guys open in the middle of the ice and you pass the puck you take that pass every single time how about this stop going up the boards it keeps costing you stop it we're talking about a random little disc that's floating on ice hit off the back of a skate heel

and it went in the net after a shot and that's okay but i'll give trent frederick credit he was in front of the net yep and the least we're not sending people to the front of the net most of this series like maybe their most offensively dangerous player in through five games like yeah he should have had two yeah last night but joseph wall said no and and you know the other thing that was absent from the first period for the least were stupid penalties you had one penalty called in the first period and it was against um boston uh the leafs power play doesn't still didn't look great no it's horrendous uh throughout the game it didn't look great so someone posted a stat in the chat last night during the stream shout out to everyone who watched the stream by the way

that the leafs were only getting outscored five on five seven to six in the series they were getting outscored five one on special teams that is such bad news for the bruins especially losing game five because next game is game six and if you don't win that it's game seven and you're gonna get arbitrarily assigned some referee a crew of guys you're not gonna get one of the new guys you're not gonna get garrett rank or any of that well exactly you're he's not getting game seven you might i don't think so watch watch he's gonna get assigned in something some something's okay i don't know who this is who is garrett rank is one of the younger refs there you go right you're gonna get well steve kazari last night who i thought did a great job did anyone else

steve kazari did a great job brave a brave job is what he did oh god and that's what you're going to get in game five and that's what you're going to get in game six and that's what you're going to get in game seven the whistles going away for the first time in years is music to the leafs ears don't even look at the ref someone slashes you someone don't even look they're not calling it and don't ask them to call it because then you're going to get it don't even look at them you don't want to be on the power play it sucks you don't want them to put you on the penalty kill it sucks oh the bruins they're doing a lot of shimmying a lot of shaking and they're falling deeper and deeper into that quicksand it's delicious the bruins have trailed for a grand

total of 20 minutes and 42 seconds through five games this series i'm surprised it's that much it's pretty wild um but they did they did trail in the first uh and obviously in the second period it was a bit of a penalty palooza um and the Bruins did start to kind of claw back the Leafs had outshot them so much in the first period you started to see a little bit more Boston Bruins hockey although they took uh I mean really it was it was so I'm looking at the penalties here Nylander Maroon in the first couple of minutes the two of them and then Coyle Edmondson Marchand all at the same time somehow the Leafs ended up I figured I understood why Boston Bruins fans were booing that i got i didn't i got why they were upset about that hey oh are you gonna take that

nhl head off are you gonna take that for listen i could never you could never i could never toronto and put yourself in that position could i could never i could absolutely never treat an official like that shocking behavior you mean you mean brad marsh in at the official the way he attacked that official and he and the official defended themselves i thought brad marsh and got clobbered oh according to jack edwards yes no that was that was it was it was joe bowen wasn't it no no no it was oh it was jack edwards said the officials clobbered there were so many great calls last night that uh i don't remember them all but yo yeah jack edwards calling steve a coward after the second period was hilarious and listen that is gonna a lot of people are like

that's really funny a lot of people got way too high up on their high horse and how could you okay all right relax but that's gonna play so poorly internally in the nhl oh what do you mean the call or brad marchand yelling at the ref because i don't think i think brad marchand's got enough the enough uh bank notes at the bank of goodwill no the call the call from jack edwards but he's doing what every person who's retiring should do burning every bridge on the way out forget it forget it what are you gonna do fire me here we go here we go i know every leaf fan it's like a painting that look at oh that's beautiful yeah for everybody listening it's the shot of the official holding brad marchand on the ice and he saw a red mist when he hit the ice

and he realized that it was an official who grabbed him and threw him down like i thought he was gonna snap in that moment and he like for a split second he realized like oh i can't i can't punch this guy in the face that's not a leaf a lot of people calling him a diver for this i'm not sure no he was like he was like kind of falling the official came in and swooped him right to the ground it was just whacked him yeah um and like the other great thing you know about everyone yeah he eats shit yeah he was trying to get him away from knives there the the well you know everyone had to step up and you know a lot of people were like oh marshan the officials oh look at them they're focusing too much on marshan i'm like pontus holmberg like the other

penalty yeah yeah but that whole that's i love pontus thank you i'll take i'll take a trade that's a fucking awesome trade hey we'll trade you pontus holmberg for brad marsham one for one welcome aboard brad welcome aboard here's your jersey 63 is available here you go are you kidding me oh i said i said nice it's homework yeah yeah no i'll take that trade too even though i love nice last night like it is holmberg all over him i am just really quietly starting to well i'm not quiet about it at all but he is quietly putting together some really really good games you want more from his game like oh man some more offense would be i'm just gonna say a few a few more goals oh it'd be great but uh this guy is just sort of a gritty pain in the ass i think

he needs and like you can't address this until next season really i i want him to have bigger line mates um i think if they had bobby mcmahon who we haven't heard that name in a while they talked about him potentially coming back for game six earlier this series guess what tomorrow is game six i would love one of nize or mcmahon with holmberg because i think a little bit more size on that line and you you know keep the speed of yarn croak could make it really effective so we are jumping ahead here but i one of the things you talked about nye's right off the top and i think it's important that we highlight him um david pasternak uh in a scrum uh was going after morgan riley and matthew nye's who's a big boy uh stepped in and and he said no no you're not

gonna go him go me go me that's what i thought and then when pasternak doesn't want to do it he pushes him and goes that's what i thought and i think that's the bruins playbook that's the bruins playbook used against them that's what it's also i can't see pasternak fighting because i think that's a stupid trade for the bruins yeah i need pasternak on the ice yeah and if you're nice you know that and you ignore that very obvious fact and talk your shit talk your shit it's awesome it's hilarious and also like i don't care who you are you can go me bo horvat got into a fight with a leaf this season do you remember who it was no simone benoit oh there you go what pardon yeah gretzky had fights i'm just saying uh you won't you won't do it you won't do it

ah you didn't do it yeah talk your shit it's the playoffs it was i don't know how much it did for the game i don't know if it was like because there were there are times when brad marchand especially at the height of the bergeron era and and the chara era where he he could go in and he could change a game by doing something like that right i don't know if this changed the game but it certainly gave matthew nyes a bit of a pep he seemed fired up his pep was from opening whistle like all that stuff about you know the college lungs or you know he doesn't have the stamina for this not last night no last night he was awesome last night he was going and you know earlier in the series we talked about you know John Tavares playing pretty well

and you know Mitch not having the best game on his line I mean Matthew Nyes was part of that and we found that he has another gear and how about this ridiculousness it's the last four or five uh I'm actually no every single overtime winner the Leafs have scored since signing Matthew Nise to an NHL contract. He was on the ice for him. He scored last night. They didn't win any in overtime against the Panthers.

Whoops. Game six against the Lightning. He was on the ice. He helped set up Tavares. He might have gotten a assist. I'm not sure. The Kerfoot goal. He was on with the second power play unit who scored and the Riley goal.

He was on the ice. O'Reilly won it back to Riley. dude this guy is clutch it's awesome i love this kid and it's crazy they go oh yeah and he's 21 i go sometimes you forget yeah you forget a precious boy oh in the ramp up to the playoffs you forget yep you got because it's all about now now now now now now now that had me thinking about the future and i went oh yeah jesse mentioned by the time he's 25 he's gonna be a problem jesse mentioned it a couple times too and i think they're there when he's at his best guys i would say that he creates space and creates chaos and he's a big body and skates well and all the things

that you would want from a power forward right yes that's that's a a great sort of archetype for what a power forward should be and he was a factor in the florida panthers series last year until uh again he was he was intentionally concussed and i will i will stick to my guns on that one there's no doubt about it watch the play so how do we feel so we're going into the third period here i know we jumped ahead jumped around a little bit but i want to ask how you guys felt between second intermission and the start of the third period how did you feel about it like i don't think the play changed that much from what happened in the first like it was tilted towards the leafs ice and the thing about all those opportunities on the power play is that they never capitalize on them

that was the most frustrating thing it felt like a game where the leafs were going to outplay boston and have all of the chances and then they're going to get burned on a boston goal but thank god they got joseph wall who stood in there and was consistently throughout the game not just in the overtime where he started he literally saved their season like i thought in the second there he was huge and thank goodness he's there to save them because if they continue to not capitalize on all of those power plays they were going to lose that season and they got the timely goal in ot but yeah heading into third it felt like if they don't get one here it's going to be it's going to be a disaster to your point about joseph wall did you guys feel like this team just played

i mean first off they played with urgency and they actually came out and hey by the way that is how you're supposed to play playoff hockey every game i want to i want to reiterate that that can't be like playoff hockey every game is like that fighting for every puck doing it that's what the leafs did last night we need to see that consistently but i do want to say when they needed a save they got one and some really tricky ones ones that were not easy and ones that you're like uh well you know sometimes it's like the play breaks down the mistake happens you need the save they cleared some rebounds too they did they it's almost like defense is like um you ever think about walking while you're walking no just me no i don't think about it oh well some weird

people uh like me are listening right now messes you up start thinking too much about your how your legs are moving what your gait is yeah you start feeling stupid are my hips aligned you start feeling dumb and i almost wonder if that's how the leafs play defense in front of samsonoff they think so much about it that they do it shitty they think so much about it that they do it poorly and last night just felt a lot more natural um and really they only missed the one assignment like you know everything that the bruins got that led to a big save i generally felt was they're doing you know what i mean like the bruins earned it rather than so much of the first four games of the series felt like the leafs just gave it to them oh yeah here you go you know

like the leafs had to work so the the calories spent per goal yep for toronto versus boston the difference is wild like what the Leafs had to do to get something anything on Swayman let alone past him versus what the Bruins had to do to score we were talking about it like assuming the Bruins one in five they're gonna play against Florida and they're gonna be fresh as a daisy they haven't had to work for anything and they had to work last night it's kind of nice I think you're still a little too hard on Robertson on the Trent Frederick goal he was in position the puck it off a skate yeah but yeah he was he was very much in position he was in front of the net um but with the with the chances that the bruins had it was or the lease had sorry that they didn't

capitalize on the max domi two on one oh he literally did not look shoot at what at any point during his 30 second just glide up the ice it was ridiculous william neal and coming out of the box oh that hit off the post and then bertuzzi fed mitch in front of the net um he had a one timer that he whiffed on and then mitch marner drifting across the middle of the whole zone here trying to make a pass it goes off of bruins player getting the puck back and then making another pass across the entire zone to cali yarn croak who whiffs on the one timer like they had all of these opportunities it felt like they needed to capitalize it and they wouldn't get one they were gonna lose but then they they held for it it was good here watch coach dangle here

max you got a two on one next time go blocker it's going in it's a hundred percent going well you're going anti gunner stall yeah no under stall went he was too fancy he went glove side he's fancy he'll go glove no because glove is on the side that tyler bertuzzi was on and swayman's like yeah nice try max and he just and he just cheated that way maybe you'll get five hole maybe max has a good little snapshot too tidy goalie well when he did that little leg kick i'm like that's a shootout move he's gonna shoot nope it would never even look even when he tried to fake he was faking to the path so his body was cheated towards bertuzzi the whole time and he's looking at him in the eye yeah dude i'm telling you you shoot that and you shoot it

towards the not tyler bertuzzi side of the net it's going in yeah it's going in he never had that thought in his mind max shoot it shoot it um uh you know so throughout the third period it's a It's it's a bit of a shoving match, a bit of a, you know, like a tight arm wrestle. You're just kind of holding on. Right. I have to say I was pretty I was pretty Zen throughout the third period just because the my heart rate was down because the stupid chances per 60 were so down in this game. Like like you said, Boston earned the chances that they got. The Leafs didn't give it to them. we didn't get anything like Marshawn uh Pasternak with TJ Brody making a dive at the blue line to try to break up the play like none of that and TJ Brody notably was out of the lineup again and I think rightfully so Lilligren I think was hurt but his back I don't think he was he downplayed

that he was injured but like Evander Kane did the same thing a few weeks ago and then we find out oh he's got a sports hernia but I feel like Lilligren felt like he could have played through it yeah yeah well i guess on his comments i guess the argument is like all right you get 100 of tj brody or like i don't know 60 70 80 percent of lilligran but i think we've landed on the injured lilligran's better yeah and i think this game proved that there was it was weird that brody went in in retrospect yeah it's i understand it but yeah well it's weird because um i mean it was weird when when they took 68 games before they scratched him like i think that's the coaches is that was the new justin hall where it's like you're you're putting a player in a position

where they they maybe at one point they had the abilities to succeed in the positions you're putting them in but they don't right now coaching staff had a really good game they did really good game like the deployment lilligran i thought had a really good game they hold on let's let's focus on the coaching staff here well no no well what i'm saying is lilligran being in there okay moving the puck uh help generate off it you need to find offense elsewhere um if matthews isn't freaking playing you also just need to find it in general uh in the series lilligran did a good job of that go look at morgan riley's ice time like the forward uh the forward group it's not like the leafs rolled four lines but it's also not like they completely leaned on like marner marner was

like third in ice time or something like that um a lot of the offense and puck moving came from riley um who just had green light and there was a ridiculous stat from uh kevin pipetti uh ilia labushkin hasn't been on the ice for a five on five goal against and he's second on the team in wait for it scoring yeah he has three assists which ties him for second on the team and scoring it's madness Marner yes third on the team in time on ice JT Willie Marner

top three wow yeah this is amongst forwards if you add defenseman Riley played 26 he led the team as you would look how much he bloody played yeah but you know that was the best Morgan Riley game of the series and oh he was so good

last year in the playoffs against Tampa and and against Florida after a rough year of fighting injuries and that sort of thing. It was something that I was looking for going into this series was how good was Morgan Riley going to be. And I felt like a lot of the plays have gone through Mitch Marner. And seeing them go through Morgan Riley last night, what I liked about it is they set up faster.

Oh, yeah. It's just that Morgan Riley doesn't need the time to think. And I think when you give Mitch a chance along the half board, he can cycle pucks very, very quickly on the offensive zone. But when he's getting set up, he has it's almost like a like like it's the second quarter of a basketball game. But it's game 43 where people are kind of just getting into position or whatever. Morgan Riley doesn't do that. He he speeds up the play.

He doesn't force it, but he speeds it up. I thought the the Mitch Marner missed one timer to Cali Yarnkirk was a good example of how his game doesn't translate to playoff hockey. I feel like in the regular season, you get so much time, you get an opportunity to try those plays a bunch of times during a game. and he's still trying to do those things in the playoffs and you just need to be quicker with the puck. You don't have the opportunity every single possession to drift across the entire zone and have two attempts at a pass.

He fanned on one time or two. Yeah, and he had the one where Batuzzi tried to feed it out in front to him and I wish he would just play quicker and not just hold on to it and make the perfect pass every time. Simple. Yeah, simple.

He doesn't play that way. Because he can, if he simplifies his game, he's better playing a simple game than the average player. Like he doesn't need, we know he's great and and you're right jesse you can do all those things in the regular season but when you simplify your game his his simplified game is going to be better than i don't know nick robertson simplified i think you know what i'm saying he just computes hockey faster than everybody else what that line

needed a little bit more they had the puck a lot which is really solid um but in the offensive zone there were so many times where they had the puck and they have time and they have space and no one's in front I'm like go to the net like if Bertuzzi wasn't there Domi wasn't there and Marner wasn't there no one was there someone's got to go to the net I don't think as Jesse said I'm I'm not sure Mitch is that guy for for going to the net and Domi is a playmaker and Domi's Domi would be better in front of that he's a tougher player he has a goal in the series guess where it's from going over the net so uh so obviously still issues on the on the power play i didn't hate the penalty kill but i didn't think it was i'm not confident in it uh i i will say

this if if matthews or mcmahon comes back for game six um i think it's time revo's got to come over you keep robertson in uh to me it's it's tough it's either robertson or revo doers got to stay in yes i don't know what like at this point what does ryan reeves bring to the table yeah you need offense too much i think to take robertson out and reeves last night like there were games in the series where i'm like yeah he's banging he's crashing he's generating a bit he had a couple nice stick plays uh in this game he doesn't play enough to keep someone like mcmahon if he's healthy enough definitely not matthews out of the lineup um and they need the offense too badly to take robertson yeah like i i feel and like when the fourth line was out there they

didn't have a good game like usually like the in game uh would have been four i was like oh that's a good fourth line game you know when they were out there they were effective and everything and it's kind of like wishy-washy game to game you don't really know what you're gonna get and last night wasn't a good enough fourth line game to justify having ryan reese in the lineup no and you know what keith is gonna do he's late in the game uh he's gonna go to doer camp um yarn croak he's gonna take reeves off that line come on man it's it's too late in the series uh you can't have passenger minutes here um he's he's got to come out he wasn't effective enough in the we know what's going to happen in the first two periods he's going to bang bang bang crash crash crash

and then they can't play him in the third and then you can't play him in the third at like you know in years past i do think you've needed him out there and i just don't know if it's that type of series right now i don't know if it's that type of series right now the Bruins were playing a little bit a little bit not to lose um and they tried on a lot of occasions to be on their best behavior um I just don't know if you're gonna need that big bad enforcer out there in game six and then hopefully game seven well they're not uh the the thing about it is that that Reeves and he's done this first off he brings the vibes we love the vibes sure second thing is he has thrown the body and did sort of set the tone early for a team that

refused to be tough, but you're starting early game and early series guy. Sure. And that's fine. And I, I look at this and I go, okay, the guys that are playing tough throughout the lineup,

you know, defense, it's Benoit McCabe, uh, Edmondson, uh, LaBushkin. And then,

and then in the, in the, uh, on the forwards, you've got Bertuzzi, you've got Domi, you've got nice, you've got all these guys that are,

that are, that can bang and crash a little bit. Again, I'd like to see the Leafs throw the body a little bit more. Um, But I'm looking at this and I'm thinking, okay, to me, the only thing I will say is that Nick Robertson, that goal aside, has made, again, some questionable decisions. Sure. And so my question is, if you're going to keep him in the lineup, which I agree you should, are you doing fourth line all defense?

So it's like conf, doer, yarn croak? Or is conf moving up? How do you deploy this lineup? Right. And that was, to Steve's point, at eight. minutes was around eight minutes left that was ryan reese's last shift yes but the fourth line had three more shifts after that and he went to his conf yarn croak doer line and if that's going to be your fourth line when the games matter when the game matters why not just make that your fourth

line also i don't i don't understand robertson holmberg mcmahon maybe or do you put mcmahon back with tavaris uh i see i wouldn't do that right away because it's it's he's just coming back right no i i'd probably do what i said uh a little earlier mcmahon with uh holmberg and yarn croak and then you have robertson maybe on the right of camp and doer see i like what jesse said put yarn croak on the fourth line make that your all defense that's his fourth line yeah i guess it depends it's totally based on how the coaching staff deploys them um i mean based on pay camp should probably be playing paying a little bit more than holmberg well it doesn't matter now uh yeah it doesn't matter now when I think as Leafs fans were not we're just not

familiar enough with this guy but Connor Dewar can score sure he hasn't really done it here but he came to the Leafs with double digit goals well and I liked when I do like the Leafs fourth line matchup against the Bruins I don't mind that I think they do well like I've been watching obviously a lot of the Canucks series and one line that stuck out to me is the Bluger uh D Giuseppe uh line where they come out and they're a factor and they keep all they do their whole job is they get an offensive zone start keep the puck in the offensive zone four check four check four check and then come off the ice the Bruins fourth line I feel like isn't your typical fourth line your fourth line is typically chip it in and uh bang and crash and try to keep the puck there and try

to generate offense the Bruins fourth line is Boquist carries it in because he can and then you start all the fourth line things and digging and battling but he's for zoe had a couple good shots last night but like bogus isn't chipping it in what for i'm gonna go around you i'm freaking good i shouldn't be here right it's all right to have a fourth liner who's like i don't belong here um uh yeah so then let's get to overtime here because you know i thought like i knew that the i'm sitting here waiting for steve's stream to finish so i can start mine and um and i'm like well i i might be sitting for a few periods and drew's like get comfortable it's going to be a while and uh sure enough it wasn't uh it was a very very quick overtime that could have ended

and nobody's paying attention to it today the bruins almost ended it oh yes yes yes joseph wool was just spectacular he was that's a hard game the leafs tried to get him acclimated by having him play the third period on um uh game four he faces two shots in the first period and one of them bloody goes in you get busier in the second even busier in the third and then it's just a shooting gallery to begin over time the fact that this season isn't over right now is owed nearly exclusively to joseph wool other than he it's difficult for him to score right right not impossible um and then the puck goes the other way and John Tavares who deserves some credit because he had some real pep in his step there was there's been questions about his his speed

in this period or in this period he was all over that yeah and he just beat a guy wide with speed and he did but what John Tavares did that we have been talking about for a few months actually we talked about it last year too he drove the net the Leafs stopped driving the net in the playoffs for some reason and john tavaris just said i'm gonna use my big thick kombucha legs and i'm gonna i'm gonna push into the net and it created a rebound that matthew nice could bury grizzly was way too flat-footed on that and i think if the whole team was healthy he might not even play game six but that is not the case right well laurie's already yeah he didn't he's laurie's in there Wotherspoon's in there I think it's peak yeah and Shattenkirk um may like they pulled Shattenkirk

he wasn't playing last night so someone left the game uh didn't someone take Carlo to the face oh it was Carlo yeah and there's there's what I read this morning is that he may not be back it might be worse there might be something worse I don't know nobody nobody seems to know but there might have been he did not return for overtime the problem with um streaming the games uh at least for me is if you miss it you miss it sure yeah yeah like if there's if there's if you can't find a clip it's gone this is gone forever there's no you don't you don't get to read all the discourse about it um you know no one even explains it to you i'm sure i'm sure i'll catch up after the show yeah it's literally do the stream shoot the lfr go to bed wake up drive to the podcast i haven't

had a time to watch anything since yeah that's fair with john tavarez like he's establishing himself as an absolutely clutch player like yes if he's the one who ended the the non-second round streak at the ot winner in tampa and now he's the one who who saves the season with a drive to the net like i i feel like are we not giving john tavars credit for showing up in the big moments plays the most minutes out of any forward math matthews is out people can't get past the number um you know 11 mils the contract yeah they can't get past the number um i saw someone say like oh Tavares was invisible before that goal I'm like what game are you watching I think he's been great all series I'm serious even the games where his line has been caved in I'm like okay but out

of the three he's the best it's the other guys are not matching him Matthew Nye's and Mitch Marner matched him last night I thought um Marner was big when he had to be and Matthew Nye stepped it up like how about that Matthew Nye celebration when that goal went in oh oh just a gotta roll yeah like that is absolute dude you scored at you're 21 you scored a playoff winner in the show to keep to keep your team alive come on in boston he's not even as old as i was when i graduated like get out of here that's gotta be an unreal feeling i don't know if you saw it but i loved when you know they all jumped in and hugged each other and the birds fans in the first row were like double bird no the best one was the guy with his hat he took it off and he whipped it against

the glass and then went yeah he folded his arms that one was my favorite double birds was great on national tv love that love that so and that comes all after joseph wall saves the season yes there's like two clear goals that boston should have had on that first five minutes ot and he saved the season it was awesome and i don't know i don't like doing the revisionist history because a lot of people are like you should have started joseph wall from the get-go no you didn't know from february onwards since he came back he was not good like and sammy that was his net and he was established in there but now you see that joseph sammy couldn't hold it now it's joseph wallster and that's fair like it's okay that it played out this way yeah it's very it's very

frustrating that it it did play out this way wool was the starter he was set up to be the starter and he goes down and sammy played really really well yeah and he became the pace car and wool came back and he couldn't keep up he couldn't keep up and then the last two games of the season second last game you're like hmm sammy was pretty bad tonight last game of the season you're like uh-oh he was bad again and he wasn't very good through four games of the series and it's like like this is why i'm like so frustrated and done with that player is the season the decision going into the playoffs went as it should have gone if they give wool the net it'd be like why yeah it would be disrespectful to elia samson off and everything he did that season yes it would be

wool backing into the job do you not play the games to earn your spot and establish the lineup but everything like that's what it's for you could argue sammy played his way out of the job you couldn't argue wool played his way into it right he has now i mean a little bit of both uh happened uh wolves played his way into it and sammy 100 played his way out of it um i wouldn't have done it differently the only thing you could ask is hey sammy if you're gonna turn into a pumpkin can you do it a little sooner um like that that's why i'm done there because like how you were supposed to make plans like if this goes seven and they can't or even if the Leafs get eliminated in this series there's I think that's the biggest well a lot of people are going to

point to what ifs like what if Nylander played the first half of the series what if Matthews wasn't sick or hurt this year no this year the result is the only thing that matters the result is the only thing that matters but like people are going to ask those questions to me the biggest one is what if they had a goalie for the first four games of the series well it's something certainly that they're gonna have to solve this offseason but it's for this offseason um joseph wall he was unreal came in last year and was very very good he came in yesterday and he was very very good in fact i thought he was really good when jesse and i were sitting in boston pizza drowning our sorrows and in boston pizza uh he was good in the third period of game four made some sense so so okay

the gig so here's the question you got a couple of things we talked about bobby mcmahon but obviously the thing that we haven't talked about is the absence of austin matthews and and really that's why we all thought it was you know funeral planning time because this is a big player for them but what i believe that i saw you guys could tell me if i'm wrong here was a team previously that was expecting austin matthews to do a lot of the goal scoring and when he's not there they were like oh well it better be one of us then well they're they won their only game without them seven nothing this year right and they just dial in so so if austin's not a hundred percent do you roll the same lines right so this is what i was thinking um you know i don't know his injury

he may not be a hundred percent let's say eighty percent uh if he's fifty percent um do you play him sparingly on your like fourth line uh like game seven is when you throw everything i was going to say out the window that's when you throw the kitchen sink onto the ice you just uh what was his name fatoric robbie fatoric just throw the bench onto the ice you just do everything and you know how we're talking about like oh you know should nick robertson play on the fourth line or do you do this or do matthews if 10 minutes is all he can give you put him out there yeah but it's 10 minutes of matthews at 30 better than 100 of nick robertson it's better than going home no but that's not i understand i understand what you're asking i understand what you're asking

i think i would rather have nick robertson in the lineup than matthew's just trying to limp out there because what they showed last night the thing is like when you take somebody off of off of a professional team the other guys are still there no i know it's like when when an nba team is missing their star player the team doesn't go out there and score 30 points in a game when when every star is out in a hockey game the team still scores goals like i feel like they're playing a if it's a different style of game obviously because when you have matthews he's such a lightning rod that you have to play in a certain way when he's on the ice he's gonna try and get his goals and when he's not out there the team's still good they're they showed that and

if matthews isn't like if he's 50 matthews i don't think you use him because you play this style that you played last night and you'll you're perfectly fine you're capable of beating this bruins team that i think on paper you should be able to be should regardless of if you have matthews or not and so if he's too injured don't play him and jesse adding to that you're committing 20 minutes to matthews if he's playing yeah there's no world that he's not playing 10 this is the or that he's playing 10 so so coaches don't look at it like oh percent is he 50 so they look at it as cleared and not you're if you're on the ice you are playing you're not matthews isn't playing a fourth line role and then who knows if he goes out there he plays the first period he's dehydrated

again and then you're playing with 11 forwards like you're gonna put yourself in that position again like i don't like that i i would i do wish people would stop trying to guess yeah well i think that's human nature man i know it's human nature but like uh you know he's not playing because he has a tummy ache are you are you thick just just let it go who cares yeah i don't really who cares people like you said what do you always say about the internet you can find anybody saying anything on the internet that's true right so don't worry about it don't worry about it a witch put a spell on right and well i mean listen i think people took my uh my comments about the william neilander thing the wrong way i got a couple emails from people going uh you know uh

migraines are not a joke and i wasn't saying that migraines were a joke and i wasn't calling himself what i said was i don't believe teams when they tell me it's a head injury that's a non-concussion that's what i'm saying and i can see a player sitting out because of migraines i just have the right to question it uh i have the right to say uh it's not that i don't believe you on the migraines thing uh actually it is that i don't believe you on the migraines pretty sorted history with ignoring concussions and so that's that's how i feel about that and it doesn't mean that yeah i'm i'm diminishing anybody's migraines like specifically i was asking producer drew because he gets them about what it's like and i think producer nick gets them too and it's like

you know they they vomit and they get sick yeah i don't brutal i uh i don't know you always hear like oh i got a migraine or whatever and i think people misdiagnose themselves with migraines because the way people describe them i'm convinced now that i've never had one yeah yeah oh yeah like i get lots of headaches but i've never had one i know i haven't thank god knock on wood i don't know um now uh uh the last thing i think we should hit is with um so we we did them austin matthews we did the bobby mcmahon now looking forward to game six the leafs have lost seven straight on home ice not that that matters yeah in the playoffs as i told you sheldon keeps home record in the playoffs as

the Leafs coach is 4 and 12 that's unbelievable how do they shift the narrative on that how do they change that uh you need some I I think I think it's a bit overblown um you wouldn't say it's nothing though it's not nothing I they played a very composed game in Boston in game five don't be rattled by the moment stick to the things that were going well don't take any stupid penalties and advantage to you it's game six there are going to be fewer refs don't they don't want to call it yep refs don't want to be wes mccauley they don't want to be they don't want to be brave well brave referees the the the call on justin hall like whether you think it was the right one or the wrong one let's say a hundred percent it was the right one it was the story

coming out of that game in 2022 nobody wants that right um so that's to the least advantage stay out of the box get some saves from your goalie and i think it's that simple i don't think you have to grossly change your game um i i think the guy who needs to screw his head on the tightest to sheldon keeve um don't get overly obsessed with last change and oh his line matching stinks anyway it doesn't matter just play play the players do what you did last time man and trust your guys trust your guys when you hardcore line match like that i feel like it shows a lack of trust in the other guys yeah and you know those guys are going to i think it i think it i think it creates anxiety well you feel like you're playing on the back foot because you're focused

on who's out there rather than playing the game yes you're you're focused on all right i got my matchup i got my matchup and the sit when the situation arises where you know jim montgomery catches you or the bruins cycle it for a little bit and they get to you all right you're going and you're playing the whole shift in fear and that that it can't be that way yeah but simplify the game sheldon keith isn't good at line changes like we've established oh i know that is that is his one of his biggest faults the other is not hiring somebody who can run a power play well that uh like he's not i don't think like we can bank on sheldon keith not doing something wonky with the fourth line that's an indictment that's rough is he's not good at line changing

he's not like he'll he'll double shift guys when they don't need to and they'll lead to a goal because they're tired he'll play the fourth line when he doesn't have to he'll change up the lines late in game that to lines he hasn't played with all season long he's not good at line changes i i think the key to winning at home is keeping it simple what do you do on the road you play the cards you're dealt oh these guys are out there better adapt you know what i mean um geez watch some watch some game tape from the road who's more nervous in your mind boston blowing it again or toronto nervous in front of the home crowd boston the leafs are already dead they're already dead and i i was asked a spectacular question by uh toogie who's uh

he does a lot of he's great nhl 24 content he unfortunately cheers for the wrong team but well yeah so over the last few days before game five or leading into game five we were talking about trade Marner fire Shanahan fire Keefe how far would the Leafs have to get to undo all of that third round that was my answer that was my answer and it still might not be enough the the last year we were like ah they did it they did it and then they got knocked out in five in the second round and we realized how not close to winning the stanley cup five playoff wins is you need 16 16 oilers you need to get to nine or ten before i'm willing to entertain no no changes oilers in 2022 went all the way to the western conference final they still only

managed eight they got swept by the avalanche you they got halfway there 16 wins is so hard and if you don't get at least halfway there i i think the everything is set in motion the bruins i mean they were set to fire um oh my god what's his name what's his name what's his name the gm the coach who they won with in 2011 oh oh my god no no in 2011 uh 2011 sorry yeah no they won the cup with him his name is escapes uh claude julian claude julian thank you geez they were down to nothing to montreal in the first round and all the or no you know what i told the story yesterday and i got it wrong it was 2013 against the leafs they blow that series they blow that 3-1 lead i remember all the stories heading into game seven

were if the bruins blow this he's fired he's gone and why not you blew a 3-1 lead in the first round you stink what happens they win with a historical comeback uh an historic comeback you go all the way to the Stanley Cup final game six he kept his job for like a couple more years riding on that they were about to fire the guy but that's how far he had to get so the Leafs they're dead already we have nothing to lose that's how they should be looking at this Sheldon Keefe's like I'm a fired guy who's just happens to be on the bench for this game Shanahan ah I'm just along for the ride hopefully they win I guess we'll see

Marner, I like it here I grew up here, I'd like to continue winning here, that'd be cool maybe even 4-7, buy myself a couple more days so many of these guys their fate is basically carved into stone

with the caveat that they gotta get at least three rounds deep you were down 3-1 in the first round you're already dead go zombie mode and drag these guys into the grave with you i like that and if you're the bruins and you could see it from bruins fans reactions last night you know jim montgomery for as great as he's been as a coach in this series if they lost the next game they're going to be questions if they lost game

seven they're going to be very loud questions uh brad marchand uh as captain this is his first full season uh and is he is he is is he able to do this without chara and bergeron and all the other great players do they you know like those these these questions start to pop up is the defense strong enough is it deep enough go look at bruce boudreaux's career record as a head coach crazy good he should never be without a job ever you know why he is playoffs he's like oh for eight in game sevens that's crazy that's insane matters matters big time interesting ladies and gentlemen tim hortons hockey's greatest duos let's go let's go let's go let's open this pack up and i hand you guys a card i can't i already opened mine oh oh okay but so we can do two steve you don't get

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because i want a signed copy can you explain how you'll get signed copies into people's hands yes um so we're obviously down the line here it is may 1st this doesn't come out until october hasn't gone to print yet yeah there are no physical copies yeah there are no physical copies wait a second this is all theoretical this is a hypothetical book it could no no but like if you buy a copy you can always bring it to a live event oh 100 right okay yes um and you know will we sell some on the store i imagine so i i think one of the well the biggest issue is they don't exist yet yes the second biggest issue is we are not a big enough shop to accommodate a lot of sales like we sold a bunch of my first book we still have some in the lobby here um

and that took so much it takes it takes hours of man hours from like us personally doing things yeah yes which we're happy to do but it's very difficult if we can't we can't commit time to that all the time yeah um but yeah it's it's hardcover um which the first one wasn't um you can pre-order it on amazon pre-order it on indigo uh local what is what is this store that it's on this is the publisher's website this is harper collins harper collins interesting okay okay okay what's wrong no because they saw the price and i'm like is this not who's publishing the book oh no it is okay it is it is no i feel like a complete whirlwind they should have the book on their site no they do and then the links to wherever you want to buy it i'm sort of surprised

they don't have your face on it yelling the puck so if you go to if you go to where this is oh so this is it has the links to where you can buy it sorry if it sounds like this is news to me it's because it is yeah so no because no because yesterday i didn't see these options all i saw was amazon and indigo and no no no amazon barnes and noble books a million i don't even know what that is bookshop target and walmart i didn't know we were in target and walmart let's freaking go hooray for a big publisher so if you go to the link in the description right now whether you're listening on youtube or you're watching on youtube or listening on podcasts there'll be the link to harper collins website and from there you can go to wherever you want to purchase the book

there you go um yeah several mental breakdowns in the process of writing this book it is not a biography like the last one and there is decidedly less zoo content is there zoo content though i think it's mentioned oh well i i would expect that very late i don't remember i don't i honestly don't remember i gotta read it again but it's it's the what they told me is you know at the beginning of it they're like we'd like you to basically do a bunch of short essays and i go you mean like rants and they're like yep cool and uh i go off and you know some of it is a chastising of hockey some of it is a love letter to hockey um it's a real good book comes out on the same day as nasm cadres obviously you announced that during the stream last night

and that's okay you get both maybe they'll maybe they'll bundle them yeah but get my harper collins bundle no it's uh he's with a different publisher boo boo it's too bad he picked the wrong publisher who even likes him not who even likes him no i'm kidding he definitely can't sit at our lunch table not now not now now they didn't go hc you believe he wrote it he broke his thumb no way oh he's a penguin random how do you press the space bar get out of here 320 pages that's a lot of pages that's pretty good it's my page yeah yeah i'm on books a million now because i wanted to find out what it is what's books a million bam bam bam books a million bam uh they they have your book so you can bring order from books a million that freaked me right out when you said bam

they must have increased the font size anyways 300 pages i don't remember it being that long 320 pages yeah that's quite a bit times new roman font 16 oh this is one of those things where you're writing an essay and you double space and it's supposed to be like 12 font you did 12.5 yeah no uh this is interesting because well you would say that a lot of people find it in regards yeah just add those words in there was there was a class presentation in like the sixth grade that i still remember where this kid said um he set up every sentence with there are lots of many first time he said it teacher cut him off and goes you don't say lots of many you just say there are many or there are lots of that's it and then he said it again and the teacher

interrupted him again and you just see him sweating because he's like this is my whole fucking presentation oh no and i still remember it that poor kid was 12 oh no so was i um but yeah syntax at that point oh yeah so it's it's a lot of the the the the idea i had in mind with the book and i wrote a lot of it in like pubs and bars um i was that jerk just loser bringing a laptop into a pub in a bar with that family guy's kid it's like oh are you writing your script yeah starbucks he got you novel um so no but the reason i did that is to bring myself into you know you know back when i used to go to bars all the time and it would always inevitably come back to hockey unless adam was there then it would be world war ii but it was usually uh about hockey

world war one world war one my bad and uh you know who's the greatest player of all time um who's on the Mount Rushmore of great players who's on the Mount Rushmore of goalies and how do you have that conversation so not all of it was if you don't believe this you're stupid not all of it was me throwing it going this is the beginning middle and end of this argument once and for all a lot of it was here's how you have the argument here's the etiquette behind it if you are trying to build a deeper relationship with your friends your cousin your uncle your dad your grandpa um i tried to write a book that you can share across generations um and understand each other um it's unfair to make this argument have you tried this um you know there's some things about officiating

in there what are the other things there's some things about video games did you answer adam's question about the zoo stories yes there's no zoo stories but i believe it is mentioned that i work which animal has the most riz you did get in there oh probably the lion-tailed macaque oh there it's mentioned in there that you worked at the zoo i why i'm pretty sure i don't remember i straight up don't remember why i so well here's another thing when i agreed to write this book my wife was not yet pregnant and when she told me i was like yeah oh did some math and i went oh fuck because uh if i don't finish the the editing in time i am going to be triple whammied with newborn playoffs book and that's what you did and that my the last month of my life has been

fucked so please pre-order this book it's been so hard writing a book is so hard i can't emphasize it enough it's really really hard and I wrote the thing who told him to wait a year oh Adam did or just write it in August no he tried to I tried but he couldn't get it done

you were just free like we weren't podcasting I was writing you had four weeks dude there was one day I wrote I think it was 7,000 words in a day and it's just not enough oh yeah I mean when's the last time you wrote 7,000 words in a day

yesterday yeah yeah that's a big writer jesse blake big time big writer big and he wrote about uh his friend who works at the zoo i want i want to know the first how far of the 320 like we got to get into to see zoo written i will check the manuscript tonight and i'll give you a page thank you yes i will hit command f and just type in zoo i is that how you do it that's i don't know dude whenever i hear about people with like ghost writers or like they say written with i'm like god that seems nice maybe i'll try that next time because i wrote two whole ass books my damn self and it was really hard so what do you think a guy like stephen king who pumps out like 42 books in a month psychopath and they're scary too psychopath yeah they're good

like i i i did some research on that like you know hearing him talk about i get up in the morning and I don't stop writing until I've hit 2000 words. There are days where it just tumbles right out of your head and onto the page. And it's the easiest, most effortless thing in the world on days where you just, you don't have anything. It's I,

I think I'd have an easier time running a half marathon. I think it's, I think it's just, it's a, you know, this don't laugh at me. Stephen King is an author. I am a floorball champion.

I'm an athlete. And so you could not run. How long is a half marathon? uh 20 21 isn't it 21 and a half yeah i think it is yeah okay maybe marathon's 52 maybe that like spartan 42 it's like five kilometers 42 yeah no i could have that actually sounds pretty my my whole thing here that sounds hard my point here is that the um uh the reality is that stephen king is an author full-time and you're an author at once every half decade right so it's a little bit different and the reason he gets up and he does 2 000 words it's like it's like it'd be

asking him to do lfrs right like not easy because you do it all the time like how much time do we spend on air like especially when our careers were like we had other jobs outside of sdpn think about the three of us how much time we'd spend on the air every day right because and that's actually you and there would be days where you're you're you're just not good and and i'm sure stephen king has days like that too but you're just like whatever you had a bad sleep you you had a fight with somebody you're you're something's off you know what i mean adam there was one day i listened to you on the way in to to record the podcast then we recorded a podcast together then we spoke to each other on the phone and when i turned on the tv you were on channel

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Together, we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer. Register today at pmcfwalk.ca. The Winnipeg Jets were reverse swept by the Colorado Avalanche last night. We've lost the Winnipeg Jets. And in two playoff appearances, the Winnipeg Jets have won two games. One against the Golden Knights, one against the Colorado Avalanche. Now, listen, Colorado Avalanche. I just want to say that I picked the Colorado Avalanche to beat the Jets.

Good for you. I think you were the only one. I had Winnipeg. So did I. The Winnipeg Jets looked so much stronger this year in the regular season than they did last year. so much like the vegas series they were the clear underdogs this one felt evenly matched why guys did it end up not being so uh the best defense in the nhl and arguably the best goalie in the nhl

got frigging shelled uh it was complete unstoppable force meets entirely fragile and breakable object apparently um they were just a battering ram their ads at the deadline came up big middle stat big valerie nachushkin is such a ridiculous playoff performer and the avalanche missed him so much kale mccarr is a superstar and after a really bad game one alexander giorgi have settled in yes he did like it became obvious early in the series uh-oh like we've misread this a little bit if the avalanche get at least equal goaltending to the winnipeg jets they'll win the series for sure and they they got more than that so guys let me throw something at you how many games regular season games has connor hellebuck played in the last three seasons combined take a guess

uh not enough sorry martin brodeur possessed me for a moment there um 175 jesse three seasons combined yeah uh so if it was 60 it'd be 60 60 60 be like 180 i would say 180 190 wow he regularly gets uh he regularly gets between 3500 and 4000 minutes on the ice god damn how about that there martin and how about that connor hellebuck is 30 years old and he's been he's been a fantastic goaltender he plays the broder 60 games whatever and he's been amazing for Winnipeg but to me in this series that is like Winnipeg lives and dies by Hunter Connor Hellebuck and they should but at some point you got to sit down and talk to your goalie and say listen we have a good backup Laurent is a was real good was really good

why can't we have yet 50 and him at 32 ideally you couldn't have taken 10 games off his plate like even 10 and i know that they were in a race for the the top of the division but even so okay top of the division they would have played vegas well home ice didn't help you did it no it didn't you had home ice in the series it didn't help so you know i i think you know it's it's a little revisionist obviously like heading into the series we're like they have two really good goalies and the best one and a really good defense they're going to be fine and they added an offense uh and their offensive contributors who they got were good well here are conor hellebuck's numbers in the last three years combined for a save percentage playoffs or layoff save percentage

playoffs okay uh regular season save percentage is 9 10 9 20 and then 9 21 so very very good pretty damn that's enough yep uh 2021 jets 9 31 save percentage unbelievable the fact that they only got eight games into that playoff is crazy okay number two uh sorry 2022 23 886 horrendous this year 870 oh so listen is it revisionist or is it a trend and after the rate the season ends you kind of have to get a little bit like well where are the trends well and also i i think the key here is um you look at how poorly he did in these playoffs and how poorly he did in the last playoffs those are two completely different jets teams yes without question the jets are way better this year way better well like just in terms of like personnel

and roster construction like completely different teams and it was near identical result that's that's frightening if you're the jets the big difference is rick bonas didn't get on the microphone right after the game ago there are our efforts suck that was terrible um i think they were just overmatched and you look at uh so i i'm gonna spotlight katie middle katie casey middle stat uh and tyler toffoli okay tyler toffoli started this game on the fourth line he was not playing great he did score he sure did and uh well you give stars a fourth line opportunity sometimes they do okay things for you let's pretend we're we're all jesse and nhl 24 okay all right so we're losing who are we going after first are we going after casey middle stat

or are we going after Tyler Toffoli? And I think the answer 10 out of 10 times is probably one Tyler Toffoli. Well, you know what I think. Sorry. Yeah, definitely. Right. And yet Casey Middlestad fit the lineup.

They needed a second line center and they got a real good one. You replaced Ryan Johansson who went to Lehigh Valley with actually, I don't even think he played with Casey Middlestad who's having a great season.

That's a pretty big upgrade. I can't believe Ryan Johansson is back under the torts system like that is weirdly funny because they can't stand each other i'm sure though he won't be there they'll come to an agreement yeah they'll figure something out uh so we'll start there then and then you know the canucks or with the with the canucks sorry jets i meant to say yeah with the with the jets there's a good argument to make that they had the worst defensive performance of any playoff team in the history of the national sorry because they did the history of the nhl they set a record oh that's unbelievable i saw this

this was from uh sports net stats the jets are the first team in nhl history to allow five plus goals at each of their first five games to begin a postseason nobody has ever done that no one in the 80s nobody ever has allowed five goals or more in five straight games to begin a playoffs and On top of that, they allowed the second most even strength goals in the first five games of a postseason ever. You know why they set a record? Because most teams who allow five goals don't get to five games. Yes. Wow.

Yeah. And it's a breakdown defensively. And I wonder if like this should like I get Connor Hellebuck struggled and all that stuff. But I wonder if this falls on Rick Bonas and his system there, because it clearly hasn't worked in the playoffs two times in a row. And going back to his Dallas days in 2012, because he was with the Jets in 23. So 2022, they lost in the first round. Completely different horses. Yeah, they lost in the first round and they got smoked.

And I wonder if it's him and the way he has these guys playing defense works great in the regular season. But when it comes to the playoffs, it turns your team into the worst postseason defensive team of all time. I once again, for the second time this show, I'm going to bring up Bruce Bruce Boudreau, who should absolutely never be without a job. If you go and look at his record, if you look at his playoff record, though, and his record in game sevens, it follows you around. It doesn't take long to develop that kind of reputation. And like, how old is Rick Bonas? he's in his 50s or late 50s early 60s i would say no rick bonus is 69 years old oh wow wow he's far more energetic and young for somebody i would think is 69 so he's got to be one of the oldest

if not the oldest coach in the nhl gotta be one of the oldest yeah it's is it getting near time is what you're saying yeah he coached he was a an assistant he was head coach of the jets in 88 89 wow wow in 84 85 his first run with bretsky was with the kings yeah he played i was with diapers i was that was our first year on the planet rick bonus played for the atlanta flames in 1975 1976 whoa around the block so wait what was his first coaching gig the jets the head coach assistant assistant of the jets but he only did that for three seasons and then he moved over to the Moncton Hawks of the AHL. I'll bring it up here.

And then the Jets brought him back to be the head coach of their team in 88-89. For interim stay-in? Yeah. But he even, in 82-83, was with the Sherbrooke Jets. This dude has been coaching longer than anyone in this room has been alive.

Boston Bruins. He was the head coach, got all the way to the third round, and then the next year had to go to the Senators. I forgot he was the Senators' first head coach. i forgot dude that uh he's been yeah coaching forever that resume's tough yeah playoff resume there's a top there's not a lot of success outside of the the 2020 dallas stars run and and maybe the third round with the damn lightning 17 18 oh yeah oh lost the vancouver one i forgot

he was head coach in uh 2011 or associate coach yeah he's not in head coach i'm not giving him credit interim yeah associate coach in 12 and 3 with the coyotes um uh so i i i'm bringing this up jesse talk about fallible defense part of this has to be coaching because it takes more than one person subtracted from a blue line in theory for a blue line to be bad but brendan dylan being out they didn't seem to react too well to him not playing uh and they were bad before if one player makes your whole house of cards fall down then you didn't have a solid foundation they were also missing vlad and a mess in the cough too with uh the puck to the head yeah yeah yeah two just really unlucky and unfortunate i mean you got a guy who was slashed by a skate and a scrum and a guy who

took a puck to the head like but that's what happens yeah that's what happens freakish stuff like that happens you got to be able to adapt it's uh it's going to be fascinating to see what the winnipeg jets do because they've been i mean honestly i think it was uh what's the gm's name again it's just kevin shovel day off shovel day off like was a gm there for like five years and didn't make a trade like i know and and they've been far more aggressive lately especially uh the last three or four years they've they've made some good moves um the the way forward though i think is going to be interesting and we'll talk about the abs in a second because you've made your bet hellebuck is your goalie shifley is your main guy those guys are sticking around that's

awesome nothing wrong with that you had trouble selling tickets though this year sure economy's probably a part of that this is not going to help this is not going to help and you need what what i saw with colorado is their top end guys are just so much better and you could say that colorado matches up pretty well against anything i was about to say like but you've got but you've got dallas you've got potentially vegas you've got colorado these teams that you're gonna have to play like the leafs always have to play is it florida is it tampa or is it boston which one is it they all suck which one do i have to play it's gonna suck what can winnipeg do i think they tried to get some top end scoring on a toffoli it didn't work out is that a coaching thing who knows

what do they do now it's a tough place to get people to sign sometimes what do you do oh boy just keep going just keep running it back no it's a good team i don't know real good team i just i'm struggling to find what what other choice they have but besides run it back again and hope you don't collapse can you move off of like Pionk would that help which which I think a puck banked off him and went in the net there were two own goals last night for the Jets which he shot it right into the net yeah the bank is right oh yeah it was a one-timer a lot of mystifying lineup decisions too like their treatment of Nikolai Ehlers is strange very strange yeah Kyle Connors uh just total lack of interest in the defensive zone uh not playing

cole perfetti every game uh bonus does not like perfetti it's weird like maybe maybe it's as simple as you know what let's let's get another set of eyes here and maybe you can sit your goalie down and go you can't play this much anymore yeah i i know you struggle to listen in the nhl there's eight nine hundred jobs it's not a lot but it's a lot um head coach 32 you'll have an easier time recruiting a head coach uh the vancouver canucks in my estimation uh and i've watched the series very closely uh really blew it against the nashville predators last night and i say that because i think the canucks played their best game of the series and didn't win and the reason they didn't win is it's it's it's one one thing it's penalties they came out in the first and the

third period shot out of a cannon nashville had been limiting them there i'm talking total game shots both teams combined it was right around 40 most games and i'm talking vancouver there was a game where they won they got 12 shots i can't and nashville got 32 i can't believe nashville has dominated the canucks like this and they're down 3-1 because they can't score i think for me the series is the correct score because there's no way vancouver should have won game number four like no yeah you're right you had the empty net right there you hit the post vancouver scores two empty net goals or they pulled their goal pulled goalie goals uh in that game they win in overtime that should have been nashville's game and last night i think adam's right in that

vancouver dominated they should have won that so it's kind of right well universe it's three two and they're and i'm gonna go through the penalties because this will if you're a leafs fan uh specifically you will be able to relate to this uh you'll be able to relate to the frustration of watching this so they're out they're fired up to to start the game in the first period and they get a bunch of chances and then jt miller gets two minutes for hooking and you go ah nothing happens oh fine oh good uh that's a good penalty killer for them too uh pretty even in the second period nikita zadorov goes for cross-checking what he should have done he cross-checked player in the back should have just let the player come to him and then push off

yeah they'll because that's they're gonna call it and they call the impact cross checks not the push ones ian cole got his stick up underneath somebody's visor to end the second period gonna call it every time and and this is the thing that killed them they were playing so well in the third period 651 in dakota joshua two minutes for boarding uh what did you think it wasn't a good board like it was no like it was no it's a the ref has to call it every day right and that just stopped their momentum dead and you have to remember that at that time they had scored they they were coming off the Nikita's a door off end to end that was unreal corner to corner in the net it was unbelievable shot Yossi Soros was super deep in his net didn't understand that well he's

probably you know what it remind me of ironically is Marty Marincin going end to end against the Canucks a few years ago and I think part of the reason it was allowed to happen the Canucks just let him come because they're like well it's Marnie Marincin he's not gonna you're not expecting Nikita Zdorov to go end and how many goals you have this season uh I don't even know but he's like one of their top scorers he's doing I think well I think he's doing really really well according to Julian McKenzie this is something he saw in Calgary like a bunch of times this is an unfamiliar territory from zedora so you should be expecting really yeah he not based on the player that i know him to be right i think that that's not in your imagination of who nikita is wow it's in the

name zed door as an or bobby or you see oh i didn't know uh uh roman yosi then on the dakota joshua power play this is the you know vancouver did a good job killing penalties but then of course as soon as they take that penalty in the third yosi scores and then you get the reverse of what happened in the Leafs game with Jake McCabe that Jake McCabe goal just kind of floats it will Alexander carry just floated one in and then you know that was a great shot

it was a great shot but like anybody like a body could have could have stopped it right like somebody lays down that's not getting through is that one of those ones where you go if only we had our starter who was it by the way was it again I was my own thing

Silas or Silas oh boy yeah I mean jeez i know they're up 3-1 you're digging deep well that's why you needed to finish it last night i was i was thinking there's going to be dancing in the streets of vancouver tonight and so now that you got to go back to nashville and play friday night in a tough barn in a building they dominated you in and you won a game with i i think i saw they had a 0.4 chance of winning yes with a rookie goaltender wow i wanted the angle up top from like the uc sorrows looking down on the ice like from the other ice of that carry a shot because you can really see the amount of

traffic in front okay here it is perfect um i want to pause it right here so carrie hits i like i think carrie nailed this shot exactly where he wanted to go because it's seeing eye it goes right to the bottom left corner there on the screen and if you see swelov's like the nashville players they drift right to the middle of the ice and even his own players right in front of him blocking out his view and it's a it's a fantastic shot and it's a credit to playoff hockey when you just got to get people in front and you just create um chaos in front of the goalie and you can get these slappers in from way way far out and scroll it forward a little bit jesse watch ryan here but before you do uh credit to carry a look at look how he's walking the line oh yeah look at his

skate look how close the puck is to the blue look at all the look at that yeah talk about maximizing his space look at that watch o'reilly watch where o'reilly goes he comes right there right in front pushes them quinn hughes yeah and then he can't see it no it goes right in and even on this angle up top you see the puck just go straight look how he's trying to see around the guys right there quinn hughes is blocking him out ryan o'reilly's pushing him right in front of where the puck's coming it's a cni shot i loved it it's beautiful hockey and like credit to nashville for playing this kind of hockey where the adam we've been talking about how he's been he's been streaming the worst series in the world because both are not giving anybody anything they're just playing

defensive shell hockey boring and when you're playing this kind of hockey and the zone is clogged up at that middle of the ice there's one two three four five six seven guys right all there these are the kind of shots that go in and you're not going to get a whole bunch of goals and these games are ending 2-1 every time nashville wanted a goal so bad that they were like okay fine we'll dress tyson berry hey he was he was injured was he not oh well oh really this was his first game back i was like wait a second hasn't he been good in nashville i was making the jokes uh i uh no i i think not tyson berry's good he's actually perfect for a team like that because everybody else can play defense so he doesn't have to that's true and their power play moved a little

bit he's been good since he got there like dating back to the tree he was good in edmonton yeah it's just it's it's about how he's deployed yeah it's about how he's deployed completely down to that and it's like they got better when they got echo yeah yeah yeah dude it's a good trade it's a good and for nashville i think i think if nashville wants to be a leader in the west it's not going to take much but i do think ideally ryan o'reilly is your second line center in a in a perfect world you find your your all-star center at the front i was gonna be really good when they have steven Stamko so that's the kind of piece they're missing that's exactly the player they're needing to take another step it's like a it's like a um a younger Pavelski signing when he

when he signed with Dallas out of uh San Jose right I man that trade at the time I was like you are out of your mind wait it was a trade I thought it was a signing no sorry sorry signing um I I thought Dallas were out of their minds that's too much money for a player who's too old and here he is still completely kicking ass by the way this is such a nashville ass trade tyson berry traded from the edmonton oilers with reed schaefer who was a first round pick 20 32nd overall in 2022 and a first round pick in the 2023 draft which was tanner molendique uh who was 24th overall last year and a fourth round pick in the 2024 draft uh to the preds for matthias at home and a sixth round pick it's just nashville having their cake and eating it too yep like to a

tea yep um we have lost most of the east most of the east is finished except for toronto and boston hilarious we only have one team officially through in the west it's a bit more of a war but we could get one tonight with edmonton and los angeles hey do we want to take some time to not talk about the rangers well we'll talk about the rangers later i'm just no no i don't i don't Why don't you want to talk about the Rangers? Because Rangers fans like the bit. They like the bit that we don't talk about them? Yeah, they like the bit.

I'm missing this. What's going on? No one talks about them. No one talks about the Rangers? I feel like we did. No. What, are the Rangers? Who are Rangers fans?

Is New York sneaking under the radar? I don't have a Rangers jersey two episodes ago. You know who always sneaks under the radar? New York. Yo, there wasn't anything to talk about. You were going to get a 4-0 sweep like we know. yeah what if i said five to be nice here's the story if if washington wins a game that's the story yes yeah everything went as it should have gone i after game two i made a video about the

matt rempe show yeah like i don't know what we're covering rempe mania is so fun it's awesome and also dangerous stop hold on you gotta stop talking about the rangers though oh sorry we don't talk about the rangers like fight oh yeah shut up let's talk about the caps off season uh yeah let's talk the caps i don't know what they're gonna do uh edmonton los angeles um listen edmonton's been overpowering most of the time in this series is there any way la plays extraordinarily desperate and find some goaltending and extends this series or does it go the way that it should and wrap up in the next game or two it's been pretty low-key violent yeah they don't like each other no uh so like injuries and wear and tear could go in la's favor but i mean here's what it

is um did you see the mic'd up segment of hyman no uh a piece of it it's the most terrifying thing i've ever seen if i'm a la kings fan he goes hey nuggy he's talking to nuge and they're setting up a play hyman gets a puck taps it in he goes whoo see got it yeah good job good job good job then they go out nuggy and they do it again and they basically go they can't defend it they can't defend it in the most friendly serial killer type way ever and then the kings go all right enough of that we're not letting that happen again we're gonna lock it down and they locked it down so much the dave ridditch played an actual stanley cup playoff game against the oilers and only allowed one goal and they lost because they didn't score one so like that is as good a

defensive performances you could possibly hope for against the Oilers, and you lost. If I threw you in a hole, and you weren't allowed to watch any of these games... You're throwing me in a hole. And then I pulled you out of the hole, and I said... What if I just calmly walked into a room that you shut? No, no,

it's gotta be a hole. And you have to throw us. Yeah, it's gotta be like a toss. Big toss into a deep hole. And it's even higher, because he picks you up above his head. That's right. Yeah, like the big show, throwing you over the top row. royal rumble um so i throw you over the royal rumble into a giant hole and i tell you one team

won game four one nothing and they had 13 shots on goal you would tell me good for the la kings winning that hockey game that was the edmonton oilers and their ability to win that game i was like it's there's no shot for the king no that's the king's game that they should have won they 33 shots on goal to 13 and they dominated the play and Stuart Skinner was great and Dave Riddich was great too and the war of attrition and defensive

battle was won by the Edmonton Oilers. The team we expect the complete opposite from. So I don't know. I'm at a loss for words for the Kings and what they can do. I'm begging the Oilers to finish it up and I'm begging Vancouver to finish it up so they play each other

because that's the because here's the thing. If Nashville wins the series then it's going to be unstoppable force immovable object right it's going to be the nashville defense versus the edmonton offense and i don't like nashville's chances who did you pick in your bracket steve uh for who oilers vancouver

nashville uh the coves okay so i'm the only one to pitch pick nashville so i'm gonna listen wow you might have been you might have been nostradamus on that because it's cold and sizzles fucking me up yes islanders that's the last time i show faith you oh man jerks brutal yeah whoops oh dude from game one i'm like pick might have been a mistake

oh well carolina crushed them two and five canadians will hear the words you have cancer that's why every step and dollar raised matters on september 19th join thousands in toronto for the princess margaret cancer foundation walk challenge yourself friends and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research together we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer register today at pmcfwalk.ca uh the i was actually surprised we haven't really talked too much about it because a lot's happened since we last did our show on sunday uh uh the florida tampa bay series was a lot less close than i thought yeah like i was asking you guys before the season before the playoffs started are we seeing a changing of

the guard in florida i think we just saw it uh i mean so much respect goes to the brand name of the tampa bay lightning boy it just wasn't there it's it's just not the same magic and the florida panthers are really friggin good i don't remember how much like what percent of the series that sam bennett missed but like they they're without sam bennett i'm like geez that's a huge loss uh it's really going to reduce a lot of what the panthers are like that that's gonna that's gonna screw up their forecheck it's gonna uh screw up their offense it's gonna screw up the intimidation factor and they just sort of continue to steamroll the damn lightning man i forget on twitter who called the lightning kucherov merchants but i kind of thought you know what

it's not a bad depiction of how the season went because they're able to put up a whole bunch of offense during the regular season on the back of kucherov and being a kucherov merchant and florida takes that away and they're they're they're beatable and they're fine you know so i feel like they were they just florida's just a better team at this point and if i think we should play this fun game of how injured were they and how many minutes did they play because julian briseois gave the report oh let's go oh is that released today yeah so this morning at 9 22 Tampa Bay Lightning beat writer Chris Crenn tweeted out the list

of injuries he's a good follow that the Tampa Bay Lightning have so we're going to go through and we're going to say the injury that the player had and then we're going to look at how many minutes they played in game number five first up on the list what are you looking up I'm looking up what an AC joint

is so Chernak played with an AC joint sprain game number two he played in within the series from game number two with an ac joint sprain and uh what is the ac joint the acromiocavicular it's your shoulder it's your shoulder the joint where your shoulder your uh the shoulder where two bones meet oh so chernak game two has that ac joint sprain in game number five he played 20 minutes and 52 seconds wow second on the lightning amongst defense let's go back glenn denning

dislocated his shoulder and labral tear on april 15th so the labrum keeps your shoulder in in place by the way that's that's like what three games left in the season something like that and in game five glenn denning played 10 minutes and 24 seconds wow with that right in line with two hits yeah two hits with a busted shoulder hagel glute strain in game three so he played through game four and five hockey is nearly exclusively played with your ass yes that is like the main function of skating around yeah hegel 23 minutes and 52 seconds the most amongst forwards for the light with a strained ass with a strained ass could have been a leaf the other the other thing there and i don't know if i'm gonna earn points or lose them with uh like the kinesiology doctor

community that listens to the show um glute is very vague are we talking glute mead glute max like what are we talking no because it affects different movements right anyway uh johansson the goalie quad tear march 30th quad tear is extremely serious and if it requires surgery that's a very long recovery mott broken ankle october 11th how many games did he play i gotta know uh if you want to look that i'll look it up i'm going back and forth with this but uh tyler mott played 11 minutes and 32 seconds in game number five broken ankle is october 11th game one uh no that's still pre-season close to no i don't think it was pre-season he played 44 44 games this season broke his ankle to begin the year that's a solid start so breeze walk

continued perbix ac joint sprain game one that's the second guy with an ac joints first two games of the series i think that's two of your right-handed defensemen i want to say perbix is right uh perbix was not in the lineup for game number five well there you go um oh shit uh last two taylor radish abdominal and left hip iliac iliac sorry crest contusion from a cross check in game three so so so it's a big bruce big scary ugly looking bruce difficult to uh um pivot and turn your body okay and taylor radish let's see was not there's in i don't see pretty sure another right-handed d so very least another d yeah no no radish isn't in the lineup there okay we don't have a radish wait which radish darren radish oh darren radish my taylor i keep the guy on the

blackhawks i keep saying taylor was i don't know uh radish not in the lineup and what happened to him that was the one i just read i've abdominal and left oh sorry i was looking at connor sherry my bad yeah connor sheer is the last one on the list sorry for calling you uh taylor darren um sherry ruptured tendon in finger on december 30th you know what word makes me mad uncomfortable ruptured yeah that sounds so fucking painful he played 57 games by the way oh my god and none in game number five yeah yeah that's a depleted lineup man yeah but every every team's dealing with this stuff and it's it says a lot about the nhl that all these guys are playing with all of these injuries and we don't know it and then they at the end of the season they tell you about

the lungs that are punctured and the joints that are sprained you can tell by my reaction like how just completely typical this is like i hear like someone's got a busted shoulder i'm like yeah they're a hockey player like dude they're all their shoulders are fucked up like what are you talking about yep yep like didn't didn't gary robertson need like double shoulder surgery like after the leafs 20 uh 2002 run i don't remember but i know that when he because he retired midway through his career and then came back that was his neck he had so much nerve damage in his neck he couldn't move his arm above this like he couldn't move his arm above his head that'll screw up your shoulders as well exactly dude exactly biggest question out of the series though

is where does stamp coast go does he stay in tampa does he go somewhere else do they figure out the deal what's gonna happen there uh as far as we know they haven't spoke to him they're speaking to him through the media yeah john cooper going oh he belongs here yeah i i i think that breeze while was pretty serious about the fact that they were going to talk in season and i i would not be surprised if they don't resign um and i wouldn't be surprised if he thought you know what like he was hanging out on the bench you know he was he was i think this might be it yeah and uh and i don't i don't know that that's necessarily the wrong thing for both parties like okay so you bring stam coast back and get more of the same i don't think the

lightning played up to the lightning standards you said jesse kucherov merchants right i think by the way i i was saying that this is nathan mckinnon's revenant year where he's gonna get the mvp because he's just never got one but it's the best season he's ever had if anybody if anything supports kucherov getting the the the heart trophy it's the fact that when the panthers isolated him being tampa bay disappeared well the craziest stat jesse can you pull up the box score again uh yep there you go yeah that's uh dude playoff nick paul are you looking at minutes dude well 12 minutes and 35 seconds which is nothing dick all for nick paul he was a minus three it's rough he was a minus like every four minutes nick paul

yeah we're talking about the same one probably every third shift what and a 44 in the in the face off dot that dude buried the leaves by himself in 22 yeah he was good what are you talking about panthers with another big second period out shooting the lightning 23 to 12 where have i seen that before okay jeez eventually steve i'm gonna expect the video from you about the tanners or no i was just about to say and in that video i expect you to rank tanners or no to the lightning as one of the worst trades in nhl history has to be so i tried to there's some trade content in the book by the way just a quick question for you where does tanner janeau play where did he play in the lineup last night i would assume fourth line fourth line dude list of

players who played less minutes than tanner janeau luke glendening i'm gonna go with none i i was silent because there is none oh least amount in terms of forwards on the oh lightning yeah how many minutes did he play uh seven minutes i shouldn't even say four just everybody on the lineup he played seven minutes and 14 seconds nobody played less minutes than tanner judeau and he and he was minus one just throwing that out there too um what did you want to say well i wanted to say so i i in my book i there's some trade content and i look at some of the worst trades i wanted to talk about this one here's the bad news for lightning fans it's gonna get so much worse it's gonna get so much worse because like almost every piece of it hasn't happened yet

so um tanner juneau traded from nashville to tampa for cal foot wonder why the lightning wanted to get rid of him a third round pick in 2023 that was dylan mckinnon a uh the better mckinnon yes fourth round pick in 2023 uh fifth round pick in 2023 second round pick in 2024 and a first round pick in 2025 that could slide to 2026 i believe oh if it's if it's because it's conditional top 10 uh so jesse's actually got more details so i was reading off hockey db this is cap friendly uh dylan mckinnon jason shagabay uh kevin bicker and a guy who's gonna get picked this year and a guy who's gonna get picked uh next year uh top 10 protected that is a shitty ass trade yeah julian breezewell better like hope and pray that dylan jason or kevin don't turn into

anything and especially that first round pick in 2025 and the preds are and that second round pick like there's so much remember we were talking about like should or shouldn't the jets rebuild dude we just got like a full draft class for a depth player he had like eight goals when that trade was made dude yep i don't know but they thought he was the next haggle i gotta know yeah like that has to be it and i would be taking a good hard look at my pro scouting staff because listen no no no well yes yes because you had you had a really really good run you had a really incredible almost dynasty of overpaying for guys where everyone went what and then you won yep they um there was there was a moment um again in my book you're

gonna hear a lot of this over the next little while i wrote that the lightning got 91 playoff games out of blake coleman and barkley good drum wow and the editor who wrote the book there's this little tab at the side where they put like notes and questions and suggestions and stuff and he goes typo yeah and he was serious he thought i meant 19 no those guys combined for 91 stanley cup playoff games en route to back-to-back cups they had a good run tanner juneau was a freaking animal as a rookie and when the lightning got him i went oh you gotta be friggin kidding me and then i saw the price and he was hurt last year and i go okay well maybe he was hurt and then this season rolled around nope he's just kind of not very good uh rookie season you're mentioning he played

15 games in the 2020-2021 season but the full rookie season in 21-22 81 games 24 goals 17 assists 130 penalty minutes yeah because he hit and fought everybody and now his contract expires at the end of next season he gave up an entire draft class for this guy career playoff goals zero sorry pulling uh pulling a jesse blake zero you've said how many there are he whoa okay how about let's let's let's word it like this tanner you know not only doesn't have a stanley cup playoff goal he does not have a professional playoff goal his last playoff goal was when he scored three goals in 13 games with the moose jaw warriors of the whl in 2018 he went to milwaukee nothing in three games went to nashville nothing in 16 games bad bad bad bad bad also minus nine in those 16 games

that's uh we're gonna go ahead and give that a good old oof my own yeah they they swung like big and they really missed on this one and like what's what was the what was the like good side of this you know you give up all of those picks a pick in every single round through one through five and you get like okay you get an established player let's say he's brandon hagel is that even worth all of those picks he wouldn't be brandon hagel what you're hoping for is you acquire the rookie tanner juneau who plays hockey the way animal from the muppets plays the drums like you just did just a monster just banging into everything scoring um you are getting i mean i don't know dollar tree alexander ovechkin just a dude who is gonna score goals

dollar two like i mean like i don't know the caps got dollar tree alexander ovechkin this he was bad sorry well no no but like uh a dude who's gonna hit everything and can if you get a dude who's gonna lead you in hits and can score 20 goals you go and get that player especially when you have the skill that the lightning have but lead you and he hasn't given score 20 goals i don't like i hear that and i'm like that's not even worth everything you gave up but you're the lighting and you're like if you look at your recent track record you're like well we got barclay goodrow who was like a not really anybody and we won and we went and got blake coleman who was fine fine and we won and like if you're the lightning i and i you know maybe this

is why no one's won three straight in the cap era how do you not think you're right well whenever you gotta trust your staff oh whenever you make a decision after a while you're gonna be like you know what i think we're right yeah but i'm sorry i'm sorry and when you put your hand up to give them that little finger like the excuse me you have two rings taking up your entire rest of your knuckles yeah i have my rings plug in both my ear i have my yeah if you got real big dumbo ears because they're the size of fists now those rings uh i it's just a a spectacular whiff yeah undrafted player too so it's not even like you got a he was scouted great going into his

draft year and this was a first round pick that you're swapping all these picks for because you're like we're getting the first round pick and we know what we got like no he's undrafted but again if you're the lightning you're like no we know undrafted players we're really smart about they are they are but we went we got yanny gourd we found him you also found jonathan marches someone gave him up for nothing it's um they whiffed on this one and it's just it's weird uh it's almost like watching uh superman walking down the sidewalk and he trips and spills his coffee like it's just it's just you can't you can't even if you see it happen in front of you you're like did superman just trip and spill his coffee that that is that's the equivalent like we

all respect the tampa bay lightning so much because of what they've done they made an enormous mistake I think I think your point is is very important that they have a history of nailing everything. So the one trade doesn't discredit their entire history of building an incredible roster multiple times over. But this is the one where they with, you know, I'm wondering I'm wondering what they do. So this will be a very fascinating offseason for the Tampa Bay Lightning. Shall we? Oh, I do want to mention this. uh there was a lot made of uh um the the two goals that were disallowed in the final panthers lightning game and then after the game john cooper made a a comment about should we just put on

put the goalies in skirts he has since come out and apologized that was the first thing he did at the podium today he said it bothered him that he made that comment more than losing the series so uh i thought it was important thing to mention uh came out and apologized and and owned it it says something about his reputation that um he said that and i didn't really see anyone go you know effing john cooper like there was a lot of frustration but a lot of people use the the the big d word disappointed and uh a lot of people said i assume he'll apologize and then he did um you know we're all gonna mess up we gotta watch the way we talk and yeah you know that that goes for everybody and it was just uh it was an unforced error and i mean that's the right

thing to say it bothered me more that i said that then we lost the series there you go i think people are just surprised when it's him now let's do uh should we do a press conference let's do it two in five canadians will hear the words you have cancer that's why every step and dollar raised matters on september 19th join thousands in toronto for the princess margaret cancer foundation walk challenge yourself friends and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life saving research together we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer register today at pmcfwalk.ca sure the presser s d p the steve dangle press conference oh you know what one thing i forgot to ask you guys about in the winnipeg jets series

connor hellebuck i guess it's his own decision but the also the winnipeg jets pr they did not make hellebuck available post game and connor hellebuck the series loss after the series loss and connor hellebuck was not made available in any game except for game number one that's weird that's weird that is um the people covering that series have to make a bigger stink about that um i remember norm rumak stominum rumak the fan 590 he used to get pissed off because the jays would make it so difficult um to interview roy halliday and you know roy halliday was you know this dialed in ace of a pitcher uh and you could understand why he would want his privacy but like the argument

which is a valid one is dude this is your team's star yeah you're the jays you're not very good i don't know if you noticed that like back then holy shit they were awful like 2009 but roy halliday was worth watching um be real nice to hear from connor halibut there i guess i guess the only argument is well you know i'll talk to you at locker cleanup but for him to not be available he the only game wait so sorry let me let me get this straight the only game they made him available after was the one that they won that's right yes connor hellebuck was available after game one and was not available after any game after that that's pretty weak yeah that's weak uh you gotta you you gotta be accountable to the fans you do you do like we would be on

players in toronto for sure for not being on that we're not coming out especially in a series last you you do you come in here we are paying customers this is what you want you signed here long term you got to come out and talk we want to hear from you yeah yeah that was from by the way i should mention who who said that eric engels had that report conor hellebuck was requested again but didn't come out to speak following series lost the only time he spoke was day after game one like not even not even like after the game on game one it was day after game one so he didn't speak after any of the games then i know i mean if you're connor hellebuck it'd probably be nice to get in front of a microphone because otherwise what does the

talking for you the numbers and the performances which were not good god at least sugar-coated a bit this uh we're running up on two hours here okay well i'll just get i'll just get this in This is from KOH underscore 34. Not a question, but more of a side note. Noted former Leaf, Dennis Malgin, just became champion in the Swiss Hockey League. Amazing. Let me guess, playoff MVP?

The Malgin Hive is going crazy today. It's crazy because isn't that where the Leafs plucked him out of? Malgin Hive. Malgin Hive. No, they plucked him away from the Florida Panthers. No, then he went to Europe for a bit. Where'd he go? switzerland so he they didn't have to go back no so he played with the zurich lions and then he went to the florida panthers and then he went to the leafs and then after the leafs or in between

the stints and 11 goals he played in the zurich lions and they played colorado and then now he's back in zurich i'm gonna beat you up it's a freaking 11 goals in 42 games with the abs get out of my face look at his playoff numbers those are solid six goals eight assists 14 points in 15 games damn i want to play who he play with um can you click on zurich you're obsessed with i love who he play with uh so rudolph balsers rudolph balsers former nhler derrick grant former nhler miko letton and the other one sven androgetto androgetto um who did um scott harrington yeah oh scott harrington relief former leaf leaf legend uh i recognize a bunch of these names yannick weber um wow yeah dude there's a lot of uh former now there are a couple names i recognize

but i don't remember why can you click on you you you ho lamico where's that uh oh there he is he did play in the nhl ah he was a panther and a canuck i do remember this person 75 games with the Canucks that's a good two seasons ago NHL career 159 games it's not bad here go back I want to know third round draft pick this is important what do you want this is all this is the most important part of this episode uh no scroll down a little bit who's Simon Hrubeck I want to say he's a high draft pick you know he is not he is 32 and undrafted that is somebody who played his whole career over in Europe.

Not even sort of right. So he's the goalie. Who's the other one? I don't know. Robin. Zumbul. I don't think it's pronounced Zumbi there, Matty. Zumba. Zumbi. Zumba. Alright. Chick, chicky, boom. Chick, chicky, boom.

That was fun. Let's wrap it up. Hey! Smarten up! I'm so excited I don't know where Chris Ratzenberger is playing these days. So pumped. Yay. Was that one of his teammates? That's what I thought I saw on the screen. Game six! Connection complete.