The Team House - Air Force Pararescue (PJ) BK: Ep. 66

Episode Date: October 31, 2020

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I'm Jack Murphy, here with co-host, Dave Park. Here's my disembodied hand behind us ahead. We are here with our guest tonight, Brian Kimber. Most of you know him as BK. He is the host of, geez, I'm going to blow it. World News with BK. And there's a link

down in the description to his podcast and also to his Patreon site if you want to check it out. We'll get into it and have Brian described it, but Brian does a weekly news show. It's pretty cool. So I hope you guys will check it out. And, you know, Brian, welcome to the show.

Thanks so much for coming. on and spending some time with us tonight. Yeah, Jack, thanks very much for having me. Dave, finally meeting him for the first time, so it's great. And, yeah, this is really, I don't really get to go on too many other, I've never really gone on anybody else's show. Really? This is like a first for me too, yeah.

Holy shit. Welcome, man. I hope you have a drink, because we have several here. Yeah, I poured a little bourbon into my coffee here. Okay, okay. So, Brian, usually the first question we ask our guests, is about their origin story and kind of like where they came from, how they found their way into the military. Sure. Yeah, so I'll get started with that. Basically, yeah, I went in a little older. I was living in Los Angeles in Hollywood, actually. I was a salesman, you know, young salesmen, you know, slaying out there and picking some ass. And my older brother was a officer, infantry officer in the Marine Corps. And I have a second brother who's also in a

officer in the Marine Corps, but, you know, 9-11 kind of happened. And then, you know, it's kind of that stereotypical thing. Nine-11 happened. I started, you know, my brother's getting ready to gear up to go to war. And I was like, well, you know, I feel like I, you know, need to do something. Felt like just kind of a turd just sitting there. So I started looking around at other jobs and I was always attracted, you know, as a what, what, you know, male kid isn't attracted to like, you know, military high-speed stuff. And I started looking around. And I actually contacted a couple different recruiters. I contacted the Navy recruiter because I was much closer to where I was in L.A., Los Angeles. But the Air Force recruiter was, like, just all about it. And the

SEAL recruiter was, like, you know, really, like, flaky with me. So I didn't really know a lot about what I was getting into. You know, at the time, there was a few things that you could look up. Like, the guy I always think of, and you guys know Permanetarius, our good buddy who used to write It was soft rep with us, but. Yeah, he's been on the show. Jeff. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, Stu Smith's workout program was out there, the Navy SEAL workout program,

and Frumentarius, I know, did that, like, straight through, and that's how he got through. And there was a lot of stuff. That was about it, though. There was nothing like it is now. And, you know, this is an ancient history or anything. This is, you know, less than 20 years ago, but it's changed a lot. So I really didn't know what I was getting into. I was like, okay, well, there's some PT involved.

And then I went in, again, again, you know, and then I went in, again, I was a little bit older. I was like 28. And so kind of an old man. Yeah. I was in, I was, I went through selection with like, you know, some guys who'd already been to combat, some, you know, prior rangers, especially in our team. And that was really good for me, you know, seeing them. And just because I was older, you know, I was with them in like kind of a, you know, class leadership position. But it was an ass kicker, you know, this was the old selection course. It was called the indoctrination course. And that's, it was a 10 week. It was similar to Buds, you know, set up. It's just basically a 10 week just, you know,

all out, just, you know, just kill you every day and see who survived. You had a PT test every Monday. You had a water confidence test every Friday. And if you were a no-go at any one event two weeks in a row, you got rolled back. And it was survival of the fittest, for sure. It was definitely the hardest thing I've ever done probably will ever do in my life. So luckily, I was able to get through it. I did get hurt at the very end. So I had they rolled me into the second class immediately. So I got no days off. So I actually did instead of 10 weeks, I did like 14 weeks of Vendoc straight through. And then finally they pulled me aside to like, hey, you think you can pass that final

eval PT test because I had injured myself trying to do it the first time. And I was like, yeah, let's do it. And then I was able to graduate. So I was really happy about that. Right. How did you find out about parake rescue? I'm sorry. How did you?

Like a lot of people don't know about paro rescue about PJs. How did you find out of that? about it. Well, so like I was a big, you know, I've always been a big reader and I had read quite a bit. I've always been a lover of books and I read The Perfect Storm a long time ago. I thought that was, you know, the way Sebastian Junger really described these guys as the elite of the elite, you know, that's where I wanted to be. And that's kind of where I heard about it. And so when the, when the first thing, you know, that came to my thought was when I wanted to join like an elite military unit, I was like, like, well, I'll join Navy or Army, and then I started Googling around, and I came upon Air Force Par Rescue and kind of remembered reading about them in the past.

And then I kind of just went from there. Again, I really didn't know what I was getting into, I don't think. Interesting. But yeah, that was a, and it's funny now because that whole selection process, as I was telling Jack earlier, has changed completely. That old end-doc course that I went through no longer exists. They went to an assessment and selection model similar to what the rangers did when they moved from you know rip to rasp it's much more of that so in the old days in parrescue if you were a physical stud you know but you're an asshole you

would you could go right through and you're good to go your your ticket to the pipeline was graduating this course and it didn't they really didn't look at a lot of stuff like if you were an a hole or not now with this assessment and selection model just like the green berets jack you know there's no guarantee you could like be a total stud and i've heard reports from because I got a lot of young guys who listen who go through and keep me updated. And they're like, yeah, we've had dudes who, like, you know, crushed everything and they were not selected. Yeah. So it's no longer a guarantee at all.

They have some kind of crazy algorithm that they base this shit on. I don't know how they do it. There's probably also, like, peer evaluations and things like that. And what Brian's saying is true, like in Special Forces selection, Delta selection. I think it's the same with SEALs that you can crush the selection course. make it all the way through. But like if you're not a team player, like you just cannot get along with the other dudes on the team,

that you're a spotlighter, that you're like one of those guys who it's all about you and you don't give a fuck about the dude to your left and right, like you will be a non-select, you know, even if you cast all the events. Yeah, and it's weird. I've heard reports of guys saying, you know, they don't know the rhyme or reason behind it.

They said they've had, and now, especially it's very hard for prior service guys to get really pit. picked up is what I'm hearing. So I've heard reports of guys who were like, you know, five, six, seven years Army infantry who are total studs. And they nailed everything and they were great teammates and they don't get selected.

But the 19 year old guy kind of does get selected. So I don't know. I don't know what they're doing. But from what I hear, it's still, it's very tough still. The traditional 80% washout rate is still kind of maintained from the old endoc days. That really hasn't changed that much. They have had a few females attempt to go through, none yet.

so far. Brian, you can be honest with this. You went through the last hard selection, didn't you? Yeah, of course. Fucking A, dude. Yeah, it was cool. I was really happy. It was one of the proudest moments of my life, actually, getting through that,

and just to be able to go on to the rest of it. And then after that, you know, just kind of, that's your ticket to ride the pipeline. You know, from there, I go to, from there, I went to Key West Florida. I went to the Army's Combat Diver course. It was very also honored to graduate from. that another very very very tough course uh not much more not much not much easy uh not much more not much more difficult than the selection course that was an ass kicker of a course and um i liked going there because that was really my first taste of really getting um being around these army

ncos who've been in the military for a while you know and i'm just like this dude i i really don't know a lot about real big military operations and being around like you know these e sevens and shit who'd been in Ranger Battalion for 10 years or whatever. That was like really good for me to be around those guys, you know, looked up to them a lot. And, and then yeah, just kept going. And it was, you know, Army Airborne School. That was like, you know,

that's big Army all the way. You know, that was a fucking experience. Of course. And then I was happy to go, I'm glad I got to go to the Army's Halo course too, because the one, the alternate, they actually had so many PJs they were trying to push through. They started sending half of them

to the Navy Seal Halo course and the rest of us went to the Army one. And I'm glad I went to the Army one because that's by far the better course. Like not even question my mind. Like I knew PJs who graduated from the Seal Halo school who never even did like a

ramp exit, you know, as a group. And you know, in the Army, infamously, you have to do those wall locker jumps where you throw on everything and you pile out of the back the C-130 at night with like eight other guys. And you know, and maybe they've changed it since, I hope they have, but in the SEAL

the Navy one, it was all side door exits. So you never did like a group exit or anything. And it was very weird to me that they would do that. Because that's not something you would ever do in like real life. You're never going to go out of a side door. So yeah, but it was a great time. It was a lot of work. Graduated, you know, got through every school first time after that, luckily, you know, paramedic and all that stuff. And it took me two and a half years. It was a lot of work. And then when you know, and you know it is, when you graduate and then you go to a team and you start from day one. Yeah. So you're saying two and a half a few years just to become a PJ. Can you tell us about the medical training? Because that's, first off, can you tell us what a PJ or a pet rescue jumper is? Sure. So, you know, it's interesting.

There's a, it's a lot of history. You know, they first started, like, figuring out during World War II that they needed some kind of air rescue component. That's where they first started looking around and saying, like, hey, you know, this would be, like, a good thing to have. And then, really, though, post-World War II is when it actually like started. So it was officially established on 29 May of 1946 and that's when the army air force was still the army air force at the time established what they call the air rescue service and you'll still see some of those old old timer patches around the ARS. And that's who started you know they were they were basically tasked with you know saving lives of like air crews who are going down. And then the first one but the real like

considered the birth of pararescue if you will was when this doctor, a captain, his name was Pope Holliday, and he jumped out of a Catalan airplane into the Nicaraguan jungle to aid a crew member who'd parachuted from a B-17 flying fortress. So he got a bronze star for that, and that kind of like really made them realize, wow, this is like a capability that we really need to have. And at the time, you know, anti-aircraft stuff was much more of a concern that is now.

And then Vietnam was really like the golden age. And that's when, you know, dudes were just like, you know, winning all these crazy medals because they were just dropping in the jungles and like getting it on with the Marines and the Army guys and, you know, frigging hunting, clearing the jungle for Charlie and all that stuff. And that was a crazy time. And you had guys who were on, Dwayne Hackney, Par rescue legend. You know, he was Asante Raider. P.Js were on that as well. Wow. And then, so now it's really kind of evolved to what it is now.

I mean, it's not because the old. old days, the old mission was rescuing these aircrew and pilots. Well, that's hardly a concern in the 21st century and even big Air Force is smart enough to realize that. So now the missions evolved a lot. You know, these young

PJs, man, they're really on the tip of the sphere. They're getting, especially at these special tactics units, you know, they're farming these guys out to all these ODAs over in theater. And Jack, you and I have joked about this before, but it's almost like Afghanistan has become this

like proving ground you know it's like it's like why are we there it's completely pointless and I've always joke well this is like predator you know when the predators come to earth in the movie you know to hunt humans that Afghanistan is like our proving ground for our special operations forces that's a really only fucking reason I can

even see we're even in there but these young guys man they're getting attached to these like ODAs and these sF teams and these and they're just going out and just getting it on we just had two guys win a couple of bronze stars with Ballers for just some close encounter and grenade fighting. I mean, it's just unbelievable

what they're doing now. So the mission is really expanding. I don't know what the future is exactly. Maybe there won't be a pararescue or maybe they'll call it something else. I'm not exactly sure. Well, dude, the next war we go into, we may not have air superiority or total control over the airspace.

So that... We might not have pilots. You know? That too. That's true. It's crazy. The way things are evolving, we might have drone swarms. You know, it's just, it's crazy what's going on now. So it's a lot different. It's interesting.

So you're kind of saying that Afghanistan has become the final FTX, the final field training exercise. Yeah, 100%. Like, I mean, why, you know, that's really the only logical reason I can even see to even still be there. Like if you ask me, like, well, if they brought that up, if they're honest with us and said, well, hey, we're going to use it as a proving ground. I'm like, okay, that makes sense. But everything else, I mean, we're 19. freaking years into it. Me and Jack have gone back and forth for this for years for with the old soft rep days just like what are we doing like what's the mission what's the goal

what's the point. What's the point? I mean are do we are we going to win? You know I don't even know like what's the point anymore. Yeah and nobody knows no what the point is and everybody knows that there is no point nobody knows what it means to win. How do you find I know. I always want to ask these, like, I want to corner these generals. Like, if I was a reporter, I would be like, describe the mission in Afghanistan in two or three sentences. You know, and just watch them stumble and fucking fumble around for words because nobody knows. Yeah. And really, the travesty of that is, you know, the young Marine or soldier or whoever on the ground. What's going through his head when he has to think, why am I here? What am I doing?

right and you know jack and i know you know the when you're like a young trooper you know all you care about is the guy you're left and right it's all about the brotherhood and you're fighting for the guy to your left and right and you don't think about these foreign policy and these higher foreign policy implications but you know that's that's a job left up to others but you have to start after a while i mean we've been there it's 20 friggin years guys it's not gonna fucking change so right yeah it's interesting So when I was in Ranger Battalion, things were a little bit different, because I guess all seals go to Halo now, right?

Is that? So back in the day, that didn't happen. Halo was still a very specific thing. And everybody was very envious of pararescue and CCTV. Because you guys had the whole pipeline handed to you where guys would have to go to SF or specialized team. a specialized team on SF, a Halo team or a SCUBA team, or they'd have to be in RRD to get Halo and SCUBA.

You know, all these different things. But when you were in, did a lot of people that you worked with already have those schools, or were they all jealous of you? No, so it was different. It was, you know, they used to make fun of Pararescue for that, call them like Baby Commandos and stuff like that, because you were taking these 18, 90-year-old kids and pushing them through. And it was funny, though, because as they used to make fun of us,

every other branch of the service started doing that exact same thing. Because why would you fucking take a young, motivated guy, 18 years old, and send him to go be a goddamn cook or something for four years, just because that's the rule before he can try out for SF. I mean, it's absurd, right? So what? He has four years to go off and learn, like, bad habits and big army? it sounds dumb when you think about it today, right?

Why not take that guy from a young age and mold him, and we're doing that and more now. Like I said, now they have these formalized government training programs. I have a few friends who are actually contractors on them. I mean, they're identifying these kids at like, you know, 12, 13, 14 years old, high school kids and bringing them out and doing PT with them and stuff like that

and really getting after the young age. And that's what you should be doing. You should be installing that mindset, I think, like right off the bat. So I never did see the sense of why would you wait and make a guy go do something he doesn't want to do? Navy did the same thing, right? They used to have to go into the fleet for a while or whatever before you could go be a seal. Like, why, you know? So, but yeah, they did.

And it was unusual. And that's why I ended up going through these schools with like a lot of like prior service dudes who had not, who'd been in the military for a long time, especially Halo and Dive. You know, you had like E8s, you know, going through dive school, going through dive school with me. You know, some of them were failing out. I was like, fuck, man, that guy fails out. And, you know, it's a little locked on senior NCOs, too. They were in no mercy at that, those schools, man, especially the Army ones.

Very by the book, you know, if you didn't, if you didn't check that task, sorry, thank you for your fucking silver star with Oakley Cluster and you're, you know, but you're, you failed. You're out, you know. And so what was your medical training like? Because that's the bulk of what a PJ does. Yeah, so that's another interesting thing. So what they used to do, this was again a manning issue because they used to send PJs to the Army Sockham course, the Special Operations Combat Medicine course, where they trained the 18 deltas.

And that's what PJs used to go through. And then it came again an issue of slots. There were never enough slots. So the Air Force looks at this, and this is the same reason the Air Force ended up making their own dive school, same reason that the Marines ended up making their own Halo school. They are looking at these slots. We have too many guys. We don't have enough slots.

We're just going to have our own combat medicine course. And so the Air Force basically kind of almost copied it verbatim, the Sockham class and how it went down. And they just transferred it to the Air Force. One nice thing they did do, unlike Sockham, and maybe Socom has changed on this since. I don't know. But the Air Force made sure that we were. were also hitting the National Registry paramedic requirements. So by the time you finished the course,

not only were you pretty, you know, you had all the dirt medicine and stuff and you did all the high speed shit, but you also checked the boxes for National Registry in the Department of Transportation. So you'd graduate and you'd also have a, you'd have this National Registry paramedic card, which is nice because, you know, if you get out, that had some weight in the civilian medicine world.

But it was, and that was good too. I mean, that was definitely a fire hose. Again, that course was like, I think it was like seven and a half months and that included. So it was Monday through Friday, you know, eight hours a day of medicine. And then at the end, you know, you did your seven weeks of rotations and they shipped guys around the country to various fire departments. Our class went to Tucson, Arizona. And I did ride-alongs with the fire department.

And it was a, it was a bitch. Like, so we would do like a 24 hour with the fire department. You'd go home, crash for a few hours, and then you'd go work a 12 hour in the hospital emergency room. And you were bouncing around. And at the end of every shift, you had to sit there and write your run reports and you had to turn them into the proctors, you know, your instructors. And you had to like document everything. You did all the paperwork. You know, you're like 26-year-old male complaining and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And you had to, and you had to go home and you're ass tired because you've been up all night. But you had to like sit there and bang out all these run reports and soap notes and all this other stuff. And it was a lot of work. And plus, you know, you're also working with civilians too, which is challenging. You know, if you're in a civilian ER with a bunch of leg doctors and nurses. Being a parent can be really challenging. It's normal to feel uncertain about whether you're doing the right things to raise healthy and happy children.

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So you had to have some, you had to have some wherewithal there and kind of bite your tongue a little bit. But I had very good proctors and the Tucson Fire Department guys were, I can't say enough about them. I mean, their civilian medicine was so good because they do this stuff every day, you know, these guys. They're so good with the civilian medicine. So I learned a lot.

from them. Did you have the opportunity to work on, you know, some like gnarly gunshot wounds and stab wounds and stuff? Because the idea is they want you to see the sort of stuff that you may see in combat, right? I did. I never got, I did get, I got a few gunshot wounds in the ER.

They used to call it, you know, the ghetto ambulance would show up. That's like, you know, the VATOs would pull up the ER and dump their homeboy out on the, pick their homeboy out onto the ER door and it'd speed off, you know? It's like, Hey guys, we have a camera on the ER door.

I don't know if you know this or not. But yeah, so they would drop. So I got a few gunshot wounds. I got a few, like, car accidents, but almost all of it, and this is why I could never be a civilian paramedic. Almost all of it was like sick call, overdose stuff, old people. Transport. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But they were pretty cool. Like, so, and my first intubation ever was like, you know, they sent us to one of these, you know, like nursing homes. so like you know where the fire department is running in and out every day because these old people are just like keeling over left and right but the guy on the floor is like one of my first days and the guy and the guy was on the floor down and out

huge fat dude pretty dead right but my proctor is cool he's like hey go ahead and fucking innovate that guy and I was like okay so you know so I went ahead and you know did the got an intubation on him and stuff like that and you can really see how challenging

stuff like that is especially for a guy with a big fat neck, you know, lard ass, it's, it's tough to innovate somebody who's very fat. So, like, that was my first experience of that. So I got a lot of good, but I got as good experience as you could get. And I got really good at like, it's the

little stuff with paramedicants, that muscle memory. You know, it's hooking up the 12 lead. It's hooking up the oxygen. It's hooked up checking vitals. And you're just going through all this in your head over and over again and just thinking the whole time. And it really makes you think, like, what am I missing? What am I missing? It's a challenge. So you were in,

going through this near the beginning of the war, was trauma medicine changing while you were in the course? Oh, 100%. 100%. Like, they were doing just one example I can think of. You know, in the old days, it was like, you know, you had a trauma patient, right? Guy shot.

He's bleeding out. What's the first course of action? You fucking throw the biggest needles you can into his elbows and you do fucking full bore. I.B. fluid. Water. You fucking give him water. Yeah. You know, and that was like, and then they were like, holy shit, we just destroyed every clot that this guy had and we just killed him. So, yeah.

Yeah, so that's just one small example. I mean, the tech, and then the technology changed a lot, too. You know, you had quick clot come along. Remember the powder? Remember the old powder that you take all over the fucking place? Yeah. Which works great. I mean, if you remember the old powder, it freaking works.

Yeah. You know, but they figured out like, hey, maybe like having this powder with the helicopter rotors going all over and everybody's eyes that burns, isn't. the best idea. So stuff like that. And obviously, of course, going back to the two large more IVs, you know, they figured out quickly, you're blowing clots. So they started switching to like, you know, get the IV in, but keep the fluids to a minimum, if any at all, you know, barely keep the vein open. So that's just one example. And then there was the whole thing about like, well, can we carry cow's blood? Do we do buddy transfusions, which is something I long advocated

for. I mean, I don't know. The military is terrified of buddy transfusions. in the military. I've never really figured out why. It's not a hard procedure at all. But they are freaked out by it. So they're always like trying to carry, they wanted us to carry like platelets and cows' bloods and all this other shit. And I'm like, why don't you just, why, if you know

like, I mean, if you're like a platoon medic and you know everybody's blood type or if they have their blood type written, which most guys do, you know, you get the A positive guy and you stick a hole in him and get to take some blood out and then you get the other A positive guy and stick a hole in him and put the other guy's blood into him. It's not complicated. And it's by far the best.

It's the walking blood bank, what they call that. But the Army is very, very reluctant to really embrace that. The last couple of years, they finally started carrying some sort of like, I know I'm not saying the right thing, but like freeze-dried blood, right? Right, yeah, yeah, like that. Again, it's all second best to the warm, fresh blood that you can get out of somebody else, which is also very easy to do. Again, it's not a complicated percentage.

perfect Halloween episode where we got BK talking about the warm, fresh blood. I love it, baby. Well, turnicot procedure changed while you were going through training too, right? Or around that time? Yeah. Yeah, that did too. You know, that was, turnicates were, you know, that was another thing that was considered very scary for many years.

Yeah. And again, they had success with turnicates in a hospital setting, you know, in a surgical setting. but there was this belief that tourniquets caused, you know, limb damage really badly, and then that came out that was all nonsense. And, you know, why are you going to worry about limb damage if the guy's going to bleed out? You know, it doesn't really make a lot of sense. I mean, fuck, and I'd rather save the guy's life and have him lose a limb than have the guy die and be like, well, at least I didn't blow his limb.

You know, it didn't make any sense. And then all the different kinds of tourniquets kind of came about. I know you guys know all about that. The NATO tourniquet. There's the fucking the twist. We had the ratchet tourniquet when I first got the range of the Italian and I'm talking about like the ratchet

straps on your pickup truck kind of deal. Yeah, the fucking that one, yeah. I mean anything will work if you tighten it as much. It tightened it up. But yeah, a lot of it did change man, for sure. And then pain management was another thing that changed a lot. You know, with the ketamine, new drugs came in. Ketamine was, you know,

really superior to morphine, but it was a lot more expensive. And it was there was a lot more potential for abuse of ketamine, if you know what I mean? Because it came in like this multi-dose vial and you could be like, okay, one for the patient, a little one for me right here. A little patient,

a little one for me. Or you could just dry it out, stick it in your bullet, and carrot in your body. I got to know how this shit feels. It would be irresponsible for me to not test my own pain killer. I think the fentanyl

lollipop was really the beginning. Oh, phenomenal. Oh, yeah. Oh, phenomenal. Again, also tremendously abused. Yeah. Like, the fentanyl lollipop is like, oh, yeah, you know, you could just easily be like, oh, yeah, the rapper fell off, that I'll just go ahead and take that.

And that's not slang. It was a literal lollipop. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you duct tape, it was great. You duct tape it, you know, the standard R-SOP was just duct tape it to the dude's hand. Be like, hey, suck on this, and he'd pass. out and he'd kind of be like you know like out of it and like slump over and it would

and if he woke up he would just take it and suck on it again and so it was great very easy to do and but you know again the old days it was like all morphine which again if you have a guy with like low blood pressure who's already fucking bottoming out the last thing you want to do is give him a drug a narcotic that's going to drop his blood pressure even more and have him die now the upside of morphine is one it works great it's a great drug and it's very cheap so they really really there's definitely a place for it, and it's highly addictive, of course, as well. It is a great drug. Oh, it's a great drug.

Yeah. Yeah, with morphine, I'm like, instantly. Oh, yeah, I remember. I'm absolutely well, almost, probably second to the last little person who would ever fuck around with any of that kind of stuff or pharmaceuticals or any of that kind of stuff.

But, yeah, I had a couple of times where Medics handed me the fentanyl allie pop, like, hey, Murphy, try this. you're out at the fire pit around the fire. I'm like, huh, okay, it's a lollipop and you put it in your mouth. And next thing, you know, literally like this is an impression of me in 2009. Yeah. Yeah.

Drugs are great. No doubt about it. They work. Drugs are great. So you finished up your training. Was that in Fort Sam? No. So I bumped it.

So you bump around. The selection course was at Lack. Oakland Air Force Base in San Antonio, which is also where the Air Force basic training is. It's like they have this little annex across the street, basically, and that's where all the special warfare guys were going. And you left there, and you'd go to, and then you'd start going around. In between schools, you would hang out at Curtland Air Force Base. That was like kind of the home of Parascue, and it still is.

And they now have this incredible complex there. I've never, they were building it while I was going through school. school and now it's obviously been done for a while, but it's a great, it's a great structure. They have this huge climbing walls. The gym is amazing. I mean, the money that's gone in, thanks, it's all that global war on terror money. I mean, the gyms are phenomenal. I mean, these gyms at the teams are like, I can't even get over them anymore. You know, the Olympic weights, the rogue, rogue equipment top to bottom, the hardwood floors, the green feet on it. I mean, it's fucking badass. But yeah, you go to Curtland.

in between schools and then the last school you go to is called it was called the apprentice course and this is where the last school before you graduated and this is kind of where they would put it all together you know you would do full mission profiles you would do your tactics you would do your weapons training a lot of mountaineering you do a lot of airborne operations water operations you go out to nellis air force base

and we we spent like three weeks in Vegas as students which was a fucking shit show you know because you're drinking like you're drinking every night and then trying to, like, hold your breath when you're, like, getting checked out by the instructors for, like, jump-ops the next day because you, like, wreaked of booze still. So half the time we were still half drunk from being out on the strip. They gave us a school bus, you know, to drive the class around in. So it's fucking complete debauchery on that school bus on the sunset strip of Vegas. But we'd go out to Lake Mead, fly out of Nellis to Lake Mead.

We were out there for, like, three weeks doing, like, just airborne operations, water operations, jumping into water, doing the zodiac stuff, pushing those out of planes and all that stuff. And then finally you graduate and, you know, it's crazy because it's like, it's so long. It just doesn't seem like real. You're like, fuck, man, this has been like a long road. And you finally graduate and it's, and I know for a lot of guys, it's probably the proudest moment of their life. You know, you're finally, your peers are there. You know, you get to, they make it very formal, you know, they're like, you know,

don your beret, blouse your boots and the whole thing. And it's really, it's really cool. and then you're now fucking a boot PJ and you go to the team and you know that's the way they treat you kind of and you're then you start from the bottom and you start just knocking out tasks and it's always just upgrade training i mean they got a fucking binder that's that thick that you got to get signed off on just all these tasks right and i remember it was funny i don't know if you guys remember like a couple years ago there was this huge scandal when they found out like the seals had not like done any documentation of like a parachute office operations and they were just like pencil whipping guys. I can't speak for the Navy or what happened. The fucking Air Force were Nazis about that, dude. You had to do a night combat equipment

jump static line. You had to do a night combat equipment jump Halo. You had to do a daytime water jumps, you know, all this shit. And they documented it. And you would get a call at night and be like, hey, this is Sergeant So and so. You're fucking behind on this shit. You need to knock out like three

night halo equipment jumps. So fucking get ready for tomorrow. And you're like, fuck so like they were very they were very strict about it but it was good because it forced you to really you know be good and it was impossible to like keep up on all these tasks you know i i didn't try to be i never even pretended to be good at everything i just tried to be competent and stuff my goal was to be really like really really good at like one or two things and then the rest just not be dangerous because that's really all i can do there's just so much there's just so much there's just so You know, there's just between the medicine, between the weapons and the airborne operations alone, it's just a lot.

Yeah, I mean, all those different tasks, you've got to maintain all the dive gear, the parachutes, all your medical gear, and to stay proficient on all these different skills at the same time. I mean, did they kind of like free you up from a lot of the administrative bullshit so that you could focus on your core tasks, or was it really difficult to balance all of that? I would say as a young airman, they did. Basically, my only job was to PT and to fucking train.

And, you know, you still had your big military stuff, you know, your computer-based training. You know, you had to do your like, you know, I will not sex traffic stuff, you know, stuff like that. War crimes, law of armed conflict. I will not beat my wife. I will not kill myself. yeah exactly

but yeah but other than that I would say they did they did a pretty good job I was kind of free to like just train as hard as I could you are there's there's a tremendous peer pressure to be physically in shape tremendous peer pressure

like we we PTed on our own we didn't have like you know everybody like you know getting fucking formation we're going for a run that did happen occasionally don't get me wrong and it was always like at the end of the day when the A whole fucking senior NCOs. Like, all right, guys, we're going for a, we'll just go for a fun run. You know, and then like eight miles later, seven minute mile pace, you're just like,

oh, God, I hate you so much. So that did happen. But for the most part, it was PT on your own every morning. But if you weren't, I mean, you know, my boss was a notorious, he was a pretty well-known PJ. He was on the Jessica Lynch mission. He got some notoriety from that. You know, he was, he was a hard-ass, dude. And he would, he would be like, hey, I didn't see it the gym is wearing. What's up? I'd be like, yeah, senior. I was there.

I must have been in the bathroom when you were there, but I was there, I promised. And I was like, fuck, I was sleeping like 10 minutes ago. But yeah, but there was a lot of pressure. And if you weren't performing, like, you know, you would stand out. There was a tremendous peer pressure to be fucking jacked. And like, you know, you not only had to look good, you had to perform good. Yeah. Do you think that's because PJs don't operate really as a team, but they're generally like strap hangers, right? They're generally sunk. I think, Dave, I think that had a huge deal to it because the way I read it, because if I showed up to a different unit, I was often the only Air Force guy there. And I was lucky enough when I was in Afghanistan to be attached to like an ODA for a little while. And but you're, the way I looked at is like, I'm representing the entire Air Force. I'm representing the Air Force special.

tactics community. I want to show up here and fucking look like I know what I'm talking about. Look fucking jacked. Even if I don't know what the hell I'm doing, which was often the case, you know, especially you go out with these ODAs. You know, these guys have been in country for like six months, you know, and you're strap hanging on as the new guy,

you know, I just, but you want to project an air of like confidence. And the best way to do that for these young guys, for all you young guys listening, if you're going to show up to a new unit, the best way to make a good impression is you show up, your fucking PT better be locked on.

Fucking look good. I mean, it sounds cheesy a little bit, but have the fucking grooming standards squared away. You know, if you're rocking the beard, fine, have it trimmed, look cool, you know, obviously. I'm telling you, it sounds silly saying out loud, but I can't overstate how much this matters, especially when you're going to be with these new units

and be around these new guys. Because at the very minimum, they'll know you're like a young Air Force dude, but they'll also be like, well, he's a fucking stud at the end of the day. And that's what you want. And it's not just how you look. Look, I mean, the Air Force gets razzed.

Maybe an NSW it is. Yeah. For being notoriously soft. And so as a PJ or a CCT, but as a PJ, you show up, you can't fall out or slow the team down on a 10-K infill. Or like, you've got to be spot on, right? Yeah, yeah, 100%. I've had good friends of mine who I talked to who, you know, we're lucky enough to. do like six, seven month deployments with some of the ODAs in Afghanistan.

And that's a very common thing now. Not so much for us, but it's very common now. But they'll tell you, they're like, you know, you're going to show up to these guys and they've already been in country maybe for a few weeks, a few months. So you've got to be ready to go. And like I had a friend who this dude's PT was fucking solid, like just an absolute stud. And he told me he showed up to the ODA in Afghanistan and these guys were already like doing these like, you know, humps.

up the mountains and you know with like 80 pounds and like he's like dude it doesn't matter how in shape you think you are you're gonna get broke off big time yeah i mean especially like humping up those mountains at altitude with weight it's no joke and you know some of those fat bodies in the army you know don't let the don't let looks deceive you if some of those fucking dudes can hump you know you're like damn bro you like got you could stand to lose like 30 pounds but this dude can hump up a mountain no doubt yeah so you it's a different kind of training You know, you can, so if you can run fast, that's great, but train for the mission you're going to. If you're going to an ODA who's fucking moving through mountains at altitude, then you fucking better be training with heavy weight on and humping and doing all that stuff you need to do.

Train for what you're going into. Yeah, at altitude, you have like large muscle mass that requires all the blood flow and everything like that. Now you're at higher altitude with less oxygen. Yeah, you get your S-kick. Yeah. Yeah, it's no joke. So again, the best way to make a solid first impression, keep your mouth shut, look jacked, PT hard, fucking and hustle. Yeah.

That's it. Brian, how was it set up for you guys for SPJ? Because, so did you have a team, how many people were on the team? Because when you deployed, you deployed solo. You were attached to somebody. How did that work administratively for guys? Okay, so there were different ways of being deployed. And this is another interesting fact.

So, like, you can be deployed. Like, when I was deployed to Afghanistan, I went with a rescue squadron. So we deployed, we deployed as a team. And it was like, I don't know, we switched out with another team. And it was like, I don't know, 12 of us or something like that. And we were on the alert, you know, doing the C-Sar alert and the MEDAVAC alert and stuff like that. Now, from there, you can also, but you can also be deployed, you know, ones, twos at a time, which again is much more common now.

And then, of course, at the J-Soc level, the Joint Special Operations Command level, those guys for many years have been farmed out once and twos to Dev Group, SEAL Team 6, CAG, and being attached with those. And that's gone on for a long time, especially with Dev Group. Now, sorry, I forgot what I was going to ask. When you're part of a rescue squadron or when you're part of a team for the CSAR and stuff like that, Are you going with a hatchet force? Is there a plan for you guys ever to go in by yourself?

Or is it always with a security force? Yeah, no, you go in. Yeah, you're like, you go in by yourself. Like, you're the first responders. Hopefully the ideal situation, and this happened before, like I was on a Chinook crash in 07. And we're the first responders. There was a QRF of Rangers that were like, you know,

a ways out at some fob but there were a ways out and they had to go overland and so it was going to take them a while and it was also snowing it was nighttime shit like that so you're you're the first responders um so when we dropped i'll just use that mission as an example so we're at a two ship i was pissed because actually the c130 was broke we could have gotten a jump mission with the mustard stain because that it was kind of a long flight the c130 wasn't working so we had to we had the chopper in so that was a bummer but um so we were in a two ship of and we had you know three PJs on board each because it was a mass cash incident and so one ship landed a couple of us got off and then the other ship landed they got off and now we got the ships like just circling because that's we're the only people on scene and we're an indian country at that point you're in the middle of friggin nowhere bad guy country and you're the only people there so the QRF is coming and ideally you always want a QRF to come secure any kind of site but you're not guaranteed that and you know you go that that that That's like when the Benghazi thing happened, I still remember this.

And one of the fucking moron generals said like, well, we don't send people into harm's way without knowing what's on the ground. That was the stupidest fucking thing I ever heard. That we do that all the time. You don't fucking wait until you know, you go. You know, if there's Americans, you fucking go. That's why you're there. So it was very common, yes. The norm was for us to be first on site if we were going to a place.

And then you'd have, if it was a big incident, you would have security. come there. If it wasn't a big incident, if you were just landing and grabbing a dude, say it was like an ODA that hit an ID or something, he had to like just pick a guy up, then you would just land and the ODA already has security, so you're not worried about it. That's interesting. I actually did not know that. It's like just not even a year ago in Alaska, PJs did that rescue mission where they, I think it was a free fall jump to go rescue a guy who got attacked by a bear. Yeah, that was my very good friend. My very good shout up to my very good friend. Tony, yeah, a very good, and actually, Jackie's a former

Ranger, and he is a, he was the honor grad of our selection course, but he's a very good friend of mine. He's a longtime PJ now. He's fucking square, he's been Alaska for like 10 years. I can't tell you the Alaska guys to me, that is like the epitome of real, the real operator. Yeah. I mean, those guys are so impressive to me. Like, not only do they go and they're doing all the gunfighting shit in Afghanistan, right? But then they're coming back to Alaska, and they're, and they're doing rescues and under some of the most challenging conditions on planet Earth. And it's very technical. It's not just like landing a helicopter.

There ain't no place to land a helicopter sometimes. These guys are, these guys will jump in and fucking have to hump out and they're like lowering like, they're like lowering litters down crevasses for like two days. You know, using very technical rope rescue. I mean, it's freaking impressive. That to me is like the real technical rescue, like the epitome of what it, what it is really to do the job. That's hardcore, man.

There is. I mean, you're going to jump into, one of the great regrets of my career was I did not get to do a trip to Alaska because it's kind of a, that's kind of part of the PJ rotation is you usually do a trip up to Alaska for a couple months. You know, you might summit Denali. You know, you get a lot of good climbing. You get a lot of good civilian rescue experience. And that's, I mean, you know, you're jumping at night could be like minus fucking 50, you

So it's no joke. And kudos to those guys. Those guys are locked on. That's amazing. So when you graduated and went to, you said, where did you get stationed after you graduated? So I was at Davis-Mothan Air Force Base in Tucson, Arizona. Okay. At the 306 Rescue Squadron.

And it was a really great experience. It was, like I said, it was like just tons and tons of work. And that's all you did. You just train. all I did was PT, drink, and fucking train all day long. That was all there was to do. And it was great. It was an awesome

experience. And you're just getting signed off on all these tasks, you know, and there's always something new to do. So if you're, they'll be like, okay, well, your static line qualified, are you jumpmaster qualified yet? Do you have that? No? Okay, let's start working on that. Okay, you got your jump master qualification. Okay, do you have your

Knight Halo Jumpmaster qualification? Okay, let's start working on that. You have your fucking rescue swimmer, jumper qualification and you're just it's just one thing after another you have your bundle qualification you have your tandem qualification it's just

so much shit again hard to keep up with all of it right the Air Force is not known for its like military discipline the Navy the Navy is not known

for its military discipline why do you think the parare rescue culture was so different in the seal culture. When you mentioned that they weren't recording their jumps, you know, they've had other things going on. Why do you think it's so different?

Well, I couldn't really speak to it. That was one difference. I think they have some similarities, though, as far as, like, the culture a little bit. Yeah. I mean, like, let's be honest here. Every guy who's in the military feels himself superior to non-military people,

okay, in some way, shape, or form. And then if you were in a fucking combat MOS, your sense of superiority is even more inflated to other people. So, like, you're always going to have that. So when you, you know, you get done with all, you get done with all this badass training. You think you're a badass, you know, and that's not so easy to come down from sometimes. And, you know, I remember my old boss one time in Afghanistan. It's very much a bro culture sometimes. And you kind of forget about rank sometimes.

but and I had to be reminded of that a few times you know mounting off a little bit as I want to do you know I would because you forget you know you're talking to these guys who are your superiors like you know fucking E8 E9 and you're like well this is fucking bullshit they're like hey why you shut the fuck up you're like oh yeah I'm in the military you know so but you have it's like that you know

you go and it's a comradeship thing too you know when you go through you know you're doing like a night full equipment jump with, you know, the E8 and the fucking O4, you know, you're like comrades, right? But then when you get on the ground, you got to remember that there's a, there's a structure here.

And it's not just, you know, Jim and Bob from the back of the C-130. Now it's Sir and Chief. You know, so I think that's probably what it is. You're doing all these like life and death activities with these dudes who are your superiors, right? It's easy to fall into this like, well, we're all just bros.

Right. And sometimes, they fucking check you and they should check you, you know, because sometimes you know, you could be like, you start mouthing off a little bit and I did, like any, you know, young airmen, and they check you. They'd be like, hey, fucking, once you fucking shut that hell up, know your role,

you're not, you don't, you just sit there and shut up. We'll fucking tell you what to do. I'm like, yep, Roger that. We got. So from your duty station, what was your first deployment? My first. only deployment was to

Afghanistan, Kandahar. I was lucky enough to get on there. I went to Kandahar in late right at the end of 06, early 07, spent like four months there, it was it. And it was pretty quiet.

That was like when the surge was going on in Iraq. So there was not honestly a lot going on in Afghanistan at the time. I got a few good missions, a few mass casualty incidents. I was able be attached to that ODA for about a week. That was cool.

Did some hearts and mind stuff, way out and the boonies, you know, traveled throughout. So, I mean, I could say I was there, you know, did a few good missions. And then after that, yeah, I started getting banged up and kind of having some health problems. Like they thought I had glaucoma for like three months. That cost me my second deployment. Because, you know, you're doing your pre-deployment stuff. And they did that puff test. You guys remember the puff test on your eye?

Yeah. Yeah. they fired that little puff of air at you. So they fucking did that as part of my pre-deployment spin-up for my second deployment. And they're like, oh, something's wrong here. So they ended up sending me to the military's, the Air Force's base, where they basically conduct every single eye test you can possibly imagine that the Air Force can put you through. It's like, it was like no shit, like a secret dungeon in San Antonio.

And it was like this fucking 1960s laboratory. and they like hooked electrodes up to your head and they're like okay now follow this light with your eyeballs and they're like measuring your brain weight i mean every eye test that the u.s military could do i went through and at the at the end of two days they're like fuck we don't know what's wrong with you you just have like really thick corneas or something and but but that alone cost me like a deployment just like going through that so i had i kind of like was a little bit of uh i had some jinxes going on with me in that sense yeah um Brian, real quick, we're going to get some questions.

Oh yeah, let's go through some of the questions from the viewers before we move on. Oh, cool. Yeah, and also, please subscribe to our channel. Like, share, subscribe, hit the bell for notifications. Flex. Also, check out the links to Brian's podcast down in the description. Okay. And you can be jacked and tanned and juicy as fuck.

Like Brian. Dude, you got to fucking get up. Come on, guys. Let me get that in the frame there. Let's go. Jack? Oh, Jack. Not bad, son.

Dave, you're going to get it? No, Dave's going to hold it off screen. Okay, that's all. We'll work on it, Dave. No, Brian, I did an ancient Chinese fitness technique this afternoon called cardio. Have you ever heard of this? No, it sounds horrific and it sounds cowardly. You were, you impressed.

I had the full, like, feed-like track suit on. because it's late October in New York fucking freezing out today so yeah I looked like a total boomer out there in the full track suit bro I can barely I can barely walk anymore much less run are you kidding me

my ankles are just ground into dust at this point I'm not even trying to be like you know it's funny when you get older there's a part of you that's always like bro I can still hang I can still operate like fuck no you can't at all you can't at all You can't at all, dude. I wouldn't last five minutes.

But the spirit is willing to flesh is weak. Right. Okay. So, Andrew, thank you. I, for one, feel Brian should be congratulated. For all he has been able to accomplish, given all the extra chromosomes with which he was born. I don't know whether to take that as a compliment or not.

I feel like I do have extra chromosomes. I mean, I am six, three, 200 pounds, twisted steel sex appeal. The fucking ab veins, you guys, right now? I'm not going to lift up my shirt, but it would probably be amazing if I did because you could see the ab veins are really cutting in right now.

It's okay. We won't get demonetized if you show the ad faints. I checked. Wait until we get through these questions because there might be one there. We know that a lot of people are here to support you. Yeah, I know.

I got all my haters coming in now. As long as they're giving us money, they can hate you. Hell yeah, brother. John, thank you very much. I meant to post my earlier comment to this. Also, BK isn't real unless we see the abvains. It's funny, you know, like I got a nice iTunes review a little while ago,

and the guy was like, the guy was like, hey, I just started listening to your podcast, and I turned my girlfriend onto it, but she keeps asking, like, why does every iTunes review mention abvanes? At least once per podcast, I throw in something about how jacked I am. So, you know, it's an image thing. And it's, it sucks in a way because I got to keep up that rep. Like, I put that out that I'm like, you know, all like buff. And now I'm like, fuck, man, I got to walk the walk now.

I actually have to work out. Brian, we're small business entrepreneurs who've got to self-promote. That's right, baby. Hey, it's what it is, man. You know, I got to get the haircut, you know, the fucking grooming, the beard. I got to get it all, you know. You got to sex cells. Well, if you ever want a haircut, come on in, James.

Yeah. I've got Dave will hook you up Dave Dave we need to work on What you got We got hair plugs bro Come on

There's no need to live like this Man I gave up a long time ago I admire Jack's fight though Yeah I'll be the battle right now man I got the vitamins and all this shit You got the Jack you got the fucking You got the little widows going there It's always been like that

Since I was like a teenager But then the enemy started to advance Inward in this direction Like whoa I'm not ready for all these shit shit. It's a flanking Jack, you can use some of your George Soros money to, you know, you can

pluck up your hair with all that Soros money that you're getting. Come on, George. Come on, man. Help a brother out. I can't. Dave, I'm telling Jack before you. Dave, I was telling Jack before the live stream that I got many

messages saying, ask Jack, what happened to soft rep? What happened to soft rep? And they ask me that all the time, too. Yeah, no one asks me. They go to real. Okay, all right, hold that thought. We've got to get through the user questions here.

And then we'll hit the soft ones. Because this is going to be the first time Jacks actually spoke about it. Is it? Yeah. Yeah. And John had another first live show, guys. Welcome, John. Thanks.

Just for BK. He better get all worked up early or I'm deleting from Twitter. So that's another thing. I always have a tirade. Usually it's something stupid that the media is doing. so on the podcast and it's not like an act like i genuinely get upset when i'm doing the podcast because it's a live performance you guys it's not live stream but i live record i don't take any breaks i don't edit i take a lot of pride in that because i'm a solo show you know nobody else is doing what i do

and i genuinely get angry and get worked up when i'm doing the podcast and and people tell me that's the part they enjoy because i start flying off the handle about them it's usually about the media and how terrible they are and how shitty they are at their jobs and how pathetic They are now fucking conformist and weak they are. That's when I get all worked up. And people seem to like the tirades. Well, we will give you an opportunity to tirade away before we close up tonight. All right.

I see your 89 Strauss. Thank you. What exactly was combat weather and why did it get tossed into a blender with other jobs? Yeah. I fucking, okay, so I do know the, I know the second part. The first part, it was, I never actually met a combat weather person, right? But they were at J-Soc and they were very highly trained guys. You know, they went through jump school, dive school, everything else,

or attached to like CAG, dev group. What I do know happen was that their job was exactly what it sounded like. You know, they had to know if they were on a MISH, you know, if they were going to get bad weather and stuff like that. So from what I understand, the satellite stuff has become so advanced now that there was really made the, job kind of anachronistic and moot at this point. Like there was nothing that a guy on the ground could do that they couldn't do just from satellites.

Right. So now they turned this into, they got rid of that career field and they transformed it into what's called special reconnaissance, which is one of the parts of Air Force Special Warfare, which is the new model that took over from Indoc, this whole special warfare model, which is made up of combat controllers, par rescue, and this special reconnaissance. do I know what special reconnaissance does or what they're going to do? No, I do not. However, I will tell you a guy, the rep, if you want to call it that for special reconnaissance, does follow me on Instagram. So go ahead and look for him on my follower list, and I follow him as well. And so if you guys have questions on that, you can ping it. And also, I'll do them a favor and plug their shit. If you guys have specific career field related questions, I would hit up the ones. Ready podcast. It's at One's Ready on Instagram.

And they really do, they do Q&As with guys who are actual instructors now, recruiters now, and they have all the detailed information. So instead of hitting me up, hit up those guys because I've been out of the loop for a little while. I know a little bit. I don't know a lot. That's good stuff to have

all that information out there because it used to be you and the recruiter and the recruiter was a high pressure sales reposition. Yeah. And the recruiter, and when I was, and the When I went through, it was like an Air Force guy. He was not a special warfare recruiter. He was like a big blue Air Force recruiter.

He didn't fucking know what PJs were. He barely knew anything. He just knew it was hard. That's all he could tell me. Like they didn't know shit about shit. Now it's much better. They have recruiters solely for special warfare. Yeah.

And back then, if the needs of the Air Force would have been, you know, different, they would have told you, oh, they're not taking PJs right now. we're only taking this right absolutely and you'd end up being like a fucking guarding a gate at the security forces guy or something like that which would be sentenced worse than death in my opinion

come on you could have been a raven oh fuck don't go there Dave okay I'll leave alone 89s thanks again would you rather fight one Brock Lesnar's size Fremantarius or 100 for Menterius

size Brock Lesnar's Oh, fuck, dude. So, Frumontarius, my man. I would rather fight one Brock Lesnar-Sides Frumentarius, because Frumantarius, our good buddy, Jeff Butler, is a former Navy SEAL, former CIA operations officer. Jeff is the man. He's a very good friend of mine.

We fight on Twitter all the time of our varying political beliefs. Good dude. I think I could fucking take him, though, even if he was Brock Lesnar's side, because my sheer hate would outweigh his fight. skill, I believe. I'm still with that. Are you saying that you have a friend

who has different political? No, who has different political views in you? That's not allowed right now. I know. I know it's weird. We have you know, I'm glad you brought that up, Dave, because it's funny, and I know we're going to talk about the election in a little bit, but I would just say, my secret

to happiness and why I think people enjoy my podcast is I've said, I don't take any of this shit too seriously. Bro, in fucking a hundred years, none of this shit right now, none of this fucking shit is going to matter at all in a hundred years. It'll be a footnote in a history book. But the way people get worked up about this,

honestly, if you let politics come between yourself and family, if you're that obsessed, and Jack, you and I have talked a lot about the online radicalization, not just like the Qadon, but the resistance radicalization. It's both sides. I mean, people have really been hurt by this. Yeah, psychologically damaged.

Yeah, I've had friends who are like, and the media loves to focus on the right wing kind of radicalization. They seldom focus on the resistance radicalization. And all these woke vets who I love crushing every week, my God, these guys, some of them are fucking deranged, dude. Like, bro, I know. Unplug, unplug, okay? Your life is not that bad. America is not Chinese communist. We're not rounding people up and putting them in gulag.

you have free speech for the most part. You have your, you know what I'm saying? We live in a pretty awesome society. If you've ever been anywhere in the fucking world, the United States is still a pretty awesome place to live. You being born in America, you fucking hit the lottery right there. And most people I wish would just appreciate that

and fucking just chill out, dude. No, I'm 100% in a true story. Through the history of mankind, this will be a, blip. Yeah. You know, whether America's

still a country and 200, 400, 600, 600 years, who knows? Yeah, and what do I care? I'll be fucking gone.

Right. What do I care? Right. Besides, America's doomed anyway. I've said it for years. Thanks for that,

right? Yeah, hold that talk because we want to come back to that. We need to give the question. Anthony,

thank you. When does the BK workout guy drop? You know, I've been asked about that a lot. People

ask me all the time. Listen, you guys, again, let me go back to this. First of all, it really depends what you're training for. Right now, I solely train to look good dude. That's my only fucking goal. Okay. So if you're training to be like a special operator or if you're training to be an elite athlete, your training is going to look completely different. Now, if you just want to look good on the beach without a shirt, I am, I'm your fucking guy. And if you want to do that, especially in COVID times, for the last, I mean, the gyms out here in California, you guys have been, have been closed almost the whole time. I think now they're up to 10% capacity or something stupid like that and they have to close like every half hour for cleaning. But I go to the military

base to work out, or I did, and they're only allowing active duty guys who are stationed on that base to use the gym. So I haven't actually been in a gym since the lockdown started in March. So all I got is my yard, a couple kettlebells in the Pacific Ocean. And that's all I fucking do. Brian, I will subscribe to your YouTube channel for your kettlebell routines. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm not going to lie, dude. I mean, I'm in my mid-40s

now, Jack. I mean, fucking still like, looking pretty jacked. You get yourself a couple kettlebells. You start, and you don't have to be like a kettlebell master or anything like that. Just get some heavy ones and pick them up and walk around for a while. You'll get fucking pretty big.

Yeah. So that's That's going to be your guy You gotta fluff it up If you're going to sell it Yeah so you're saying it's coming You're saying it's in the worst Get the arm checked there

Yeah it's looking good Okay All right I'm on backwards Okay yeah still looking Beathy I don't think our viewers Are going to be happy And I don't think

You as a PJ Are going to be happy Unless you can show your ab veins Since you can't do it on your own podcast This is This is like Dave Sproity and slip here. Like, oh, your viewers won't be happy, Brian, if you don't show you, yeah. It's not a slip. I spent four years in the Navy.

Dave, I'll send you nudes after the show, I promise. I got you, brother. You heard it here first. That was, do you have more question? My question stopped, said it couldn't connect. Oh, really? Okay. So the last one I got to was Anthony S. When does the BK? There were been. a few after that. Oh boy.

Okay. I got Anthony. We're going down here. We're going down. We're going to go through them. Okay. High Value Warrior says, some fat-bodied love for the seamstresses in the Air Force throw him some loving shade. Don't know what that means, exactly. Some love for the seamstresses.

I'll buy it. Well, okay. Well, actually, that's just bringing up a good point. A quick story. When we went to go graduate from PJ school, right? It was the first, this is like one of the few times we'd ever worn our blues, right? And my buddy, my prior ranger buddy,

who was my roommate, Aaron Finley, he's a captain in the army now, that was a PA. And he told me, he's like, bro, we got to fucking go to the tailor to get our shit, like, and nobody else in our class did. And so they're all wearing these like boxy ass issued blues, right, from the military.

And me and Aaron show up, dude, and our sleeves are all frigging, like, dialed in, like snugged up and stuff. And we're looking like, and all of our fucking classmates are like, what the hell? How come your guys's uniforms look so much better than ours? I'm like, bro, you got to get your shit tailored. So you young guys, get those uniforms tailored.

So those seamstresses, yeah, you got to have that. You can't be looking at your sloppy-ass blues at graduation. Come on now. Because, you know, they issue you those shirts, and these sleeves are like down like your mid-forearms, the short sleeves. I'm like, what the hell is this shit? So you guys were looking like the Spanish Legion.

You know those dudes who wear like the Robbins Egg blue uniforms and an open chested like the end of here. I love, yeah, but you know, my brother got married and I went to his wedding and he was a Marine Corps officer, infantry officer, like I said. And so everybody there is a Marine Corps dress blues. And that was one of the few times I wore my blues outside ever. And so I went to this winery and like all these dudes were, and there was still like a lot of females there at the bar.

You know, and then all these like stud marines come in and their dress blues and blah, blah. And then there's me. you know, with the Maroon Barre. And so these girls are like, oh, so what are you? You know? And one of my brother's friends, he goes, yeah, that's our bus driver. All right, so we got a Korean gent in here. I'm sorry that I can't read your name, brother, because it's in Korean.

But he says, hi, I am the one who ended my duty of defense in Korea. One of my ancestors survived the Korean War with the help of the U.S. military. thanks bro we appreciate you thanks for the donation yeah brick top medic says i went to sf strategic for condescence course with pjays all had jolly green tats they still do that and in the same place yes they do right on the ass should i should i show should i show the the ass tat i will get kicked off youtube for that

or demonel that's too bad no no they'll kick us off for new to me dude you guys remember when youtube was cool like in like 2006. I remember when the internet was cool. That's how old I am. Yeah. Yeah. What's the deal?

Can you tell us what the deal is with the Jolly Green footprints? Yeah. So that's, that kind of started, it became a traditionally Vietnam because the call sign was like Jolly, like Jolly Green Giants. So when they would call like, you know, MetaVac Cesar support, a fire support,

they'd be like, you know, Jolly Green, Jolly Green. And so they started calling the PJs Jolly Green Giants. And so they got the crazy idea to start getting the fucking green feet tattoos. It was similar to the hang loose footprints at the time, like the offset with the toes.

And so they started getting those tattooed in green and they got them on their butt cheeks because that's where the fucking jump master would slap your ass and say go. That's awesome. Or the bird, yeah. So they would be like, so they fucking, everybody got it. So

it kind of became a tradition. And now, yeah, if you meet a PJ, the first thing you should do is be like, hey, let's see them green feet boy and you know so if they don't have them they're suspect i'm gonna have to keep that so you don't even do coin checks you're way past that oh yeah no i don't do a coin check i is and i don't carry a coin around with me anyway so i'm not really like that high speed so honestly it's weird you know when you only i don't know like like so jack when i when i started writing for soft rep you know it's like funny because people

are like, well, we want you to write about PJ stuff. I'm like, I didn't even, like, feel really qualified because I feel like my career was so short. You know, I always felt like, that's why I rarely even talk about it on the podcast. I hardly ever reference my military career to begin with because I, you know, compared to like everybody else, you know, I really don't feel like I did much, you know. So, I mean, I was there. Yeah, I know. I feel the same way sometimes, too. That's why probably we run a show where we have all these guys who are like OGs on, you know, we can really kind of lend some insight.

But, I mean, everybody has their little part to play, has their little place in history. So, I mean, it's good to do. I was really proud of it. But, you know, we all can't. That's just the nature of the business, you know. You all can't. I knew guys who fucking graduated and then, like, one week later, got fucked up and we're medically retired. Never even employed.

And I'm like, probably at least I got employment then, you know. Well, it's funny because last week had Jason Bigley on, and, you know, and he said the same thing. I don't want to compare myself to other people because other people have done so much more than I have. And I think everybody does that. You know, like even guys who have done tons of stuff, you know, there's a certain, you know, we're brought up to believe that, you know,

you don't like toot your own horn. And there's always somebody who's cooler than you. That's for sure. You know, no matter how high speed you are, there's always somebody cooler. So, like, I just feel like, I always feel like I didn't do hardly anything, but, you know, at least I was there.

I have a feeling that even a congressional of honor winner would look at somebody with a mustard saying to go oh I don't have that yeah yeah you do it's a culture it's a fucking thing yeah it's a culture and it's a cult and not like

like you said like the last class was always a hard class yeah you know this unit was always cool six months ago man you got here just too late six months ago it was awesome now it sucks these new guys are soft as baby shit Yeah, yeah. Well, it's going back to the Gratio-Marx quote. I would never want to be a member of a club that would have me as a member. Yeah, 100%.

All right. So Mark C. says, love you, dudes. Keep up awesomeness all the way from Cortez Island, British Columbia. Thank you, brother. Awesome. Ian, a young viewer, next level, is interested in trying out as a PJ having recently graduated high school. What advice would Brian offer? I would say contact again the ones ready guys or and I would also say contact a socom athlete on Instagram uh the socom athlete is a guy I know he's you know he runs some of these training courses where he basically puts these kids through their paces gives him a PT test and we give them a little smoke session on a beach and when he has classes all over the United States and you can sign up for group chats and workout tips and they do all that shit that's good I've been

Yeah, and I've gone out to a few classes out here in San Diego. And he would tell you that these classes he puts on in San Diego are some of his most challenging classes. And it's no fucking joke, dude. We've taken these kids out. And it'll be like me. There's a PJ. There's a PJ I was enlisted with who became a Navy SEAL officer. And he, myself, another PJ, a combat controller, a couple Rangers have taken these kids out onto the beach in January.

with like logs, it's fucking sketchy and put them in the ocean at night. I mean, dude, God forbid something happens to one of these kids. But it's no joke, dude. We hold them down and pin them down in the surf and yell at them and give them a whole real fucking experience. Like for about

three, four hours, he calls them hell days. And I've had a few females come out for him. I've been there for two chicks who came out. And it's a great experience. It's something I wish had been around when I was young. It definitely gives you a taste of what it's like, and it's only a few hours long,

but that's, it's, it's, we, we give them a real taste of it, and it's no joke. I mean, it's, it's, I tell them afterwards, you should feel proud just showing up to something like that, because most people wouldn't even show up. And it's no, it's a, it's a, it's a nut roll. I would add one thing to that, Ian, tell them to sign a contract. Even as delayed entry for six months or eight months, to sign a contract, because I don't know how many kids I mentored who were going to do it, going to do it, going to do it. Yeah.

And never did it. Yeah. Like, you can train. Sorry. You can train all day and guys will train and feel like they're never ready or find an excuse why they can't go now. Sign a contract and then train with that date in mind. Yeah, sometimes. And don't overthink it.

I would say, like, you know, I was talking about how ignorant I was. In a way, it was almost a blessing, though. Right. Because I really didn't fucking know. Right. So if you go in and you've read everything and you've gone to these courses and you've heard all these stories and you're just filled with dread, you know, waiting for this and waiting for that instead of just fucking completing that movement, whatever you're doing. You know, you're always like living in dread. With me, I was like completely ignorant on what was coming kind of, which was almost made it better because I could just concentrate on the moment and just sucking it up in the moment.

Because if you start thinking, that's the best advice I can give anybody when you're actually in the course, concentrate on just making it through that evolution, whatever you're doing, whether it's a set of push-ups, whether it's a run, whether it's anything. Just say, I'm just going to get through this evolution, and then I'll quit. Yeah. You know, but then you get to the next one, you're like, okay, you know, I'll do this run, then I'll quit. But you just keep going. But if you start thinking like shit that's coming down seven weeks down the line, you're just going to fucking mentally, just kill yourself.

You just got to stay in the moment. Brick top medic. He says, show the tattoo, double dog dare you, balk bark. I got to shut this one down before it gets out of control. Yeah.

The powers that be, you know, will come down hard on us over that one. I'll just, I'll just throw up the, I'll throw up the angel tattoo as a, as a consolation prize.

I think I can't. I would agree, though, to post the tattoo on Twitter. Oh, yeah, that's a good thing. Like a close-up where we can't tell it's the ass, yeah. Yeah, it'll just be this big mound of white flesh. By the way, ass tattoos hurt. Really? I thought it would not hurt very much because it would be, like, fleshy.

No, it's very painful, because there's a lot of nerve endings back there, man. It hurt like fucking hell. I just figure it's like, you know, when, I mean, you know damn well, Brian, when we have a team vaccination day and we all take turns grabbing a big handful of ass cheek and you just throw the syringe like it's a dart yeah yeah yeah it's not fun uh i don't like tattoos i i want to actually get a few more but i'm not a fan of the pain i mean the one on my arm did that bicep one hurt like a biotch

dude i'm not gonna lie i was like ready to tap out on that thing not fun that's why you get all your tattoos overseas so you can drink Well, I was drinking. We were drinking. I was in the Hells Angel fucking tattoo parlor out here in San Diego, so they didn't care. They thought, I was there with my bro.

We were both getting the rescue, and he knew we were PJs, so he was like, yeah, do whatever you want. Brad says, do PJs attached to J-Soc? PJs attached to J-Soc units have to go through an additional assessment and selection process? Yes, good question.

They do. they do similar to you know like a I wouldn't you know how CAG does their they have a selection to get into Delta you know the 40 mile long walk of course they it's not it's basically there's a selection

process like that yeah so usually it's good to go to a unit you have some squared away older people get some experience and then you go to JSOC and assess but you better have your shit dialed in and you better be ready to go because yes you will be I don't know how NSW does it

exactly. I've heard conflicting stories. My seal buddy has told me that with NSW to go to DevGrew, as long as you're like not known as a shitbag, you're basically in if you want to go there. I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what he told me at the time. But with the 24th,

which is the J-Soc component of the Air Force, you have to actually be assessed and yes, guys do go there and not get assessed to go to the 24th. And this 24th is now Special Operations Wing. It's not the Special Operations group anymore. It's a wing, which is a bigger thing.

So Matt asks, who is Brandon Webb's favorite person, and why is it Brandon Webb? Yeah, you know, I heard all the stories, and I'm not going to, I'm not going to get into, like, because honestly, I only met the guy, like, once personally. I know, that's not true. I met him twice. I met him once when he asked me to write for soft rep, which I did. And then the second time I met him was at Shotshow in Vegas, and he was so drunk, he walked up to me. And I said, hi, he looked at me. I was like, hey, good to see you. And then he kept walking.

Like, he had no fucking clue who I was, which was pretty funny. Softrup was cool. I didn't have, I was kind of like contracting at the time, so I wasn't involved in all the, like, the machinations of the, you know, politics, Jack. I know you had a whole thing with it. But it was cool because, you know, I went and said, hey, let me try this weekly news column. And that's kind of where the really, now my idea for the podcast took off, because I was writing the weekly news column, it was pretty popular. And then from there, Jack, as you well know, at one point they said, hey, we can't pay you guys for a while. And I was like, okay, well, let me know when you can pay me and I'll keep writing.

And that's when I stopped doing it. And then after that, the whole thing kind of fucking imploded, which is really too bad because we really had a good crew there. You know, between the new and Tery and Derek and all the other guys, we had like legit special operators. there and it was like a legit crew and the whole thing went to shit you know i was kind of a bummer i was really proud of what we were doing there um for quite a while and i think yeah absolutely you know i had recruited not to pat myself on the back too much here but i mean i think we had a really good group of guys there we had some sf guys we had some rangers we had we had you we had pj um we had some seals we had some cia people there um i brought in

like Aussie Commandos, I mean, foreign special operations units, all these different people, guys from the Aussie SAS, guys from the Danish Special Forces in their writing. And it was just really exciting that for the first time, you know, at the time no one else was doing this. And for the first time, all these guys kind of had a platform and had a voice that they hadn't had before. Yeah. Yeah, it was a great thing.

You know, and I was, I will say that I never, while they were paying me, I mean, they were really, it was straight up. It was like, I got paid to write, which is hard enough to do on the internet. Jack, you know, I've talked about that offline about how challenges of, you know, making money in writing on the internet. It's hard, you know, so just even though it was like, it wasn't that much, but it was, it was, it was a decent amount of money, and I was, I was happy to get it. So what, what were the questions that your friends wanted to ask me about, like, what happened with the company? I mean, what did they got for me? And I'll, try to answer.

Well, I think just generally, they were like, what happened? Like, because I think, really, I don't know if you've addressed it in past live screams or really talked about it before. And I'm not saying, you know, go into the whole long fucking saga or anything. Yeah. We're wondering, like, you know, what happened with you? And I know there's like some, maybe some legal things and reasons you can't get into or anything.

But, yeah, there's no legal thing stopping me because I refuse to sign any paperwork or anything like that. I just wouldn't do it. I mean, and it is a saga. I mean, you could fill up like a whole book about it. I guess what I'll say is, you know, I co-founded the website, and as I was just saying, you know, put a lot of work into it, put it all together.

I was really proud of the work we were doing. And without getting into the Encyclopedia Britannica version of what happened over the course of like eight years, various business decisions were made or were not made. And what I had to deal with was on these periods where I was being told I had to essentially fire our entire staff. So I would build the company up, or at least build our staff up on the new side and have everything in a really good place and then be told, hey, we can't pay these guys anymore. The budget is out of whack. There's always some sort of weird excuse.

so we had to let everyone go and this happened like maybe six times while I was at the company where we basically fired just about everybody and then hey look Jack I need you to put together

a good staff of writers and some really kick-ass freelancers it's like hey dude like that's what I had and you made me hire everybody so we went through those ups and downs for years where I was done building

everything back up again, you know, trying to bring in good talent and get everything, you know, going in a positive direction again, and then being told, hey, look, we got to cut back, this is costing too much money, everyone's fired. I mean, I went on vacation, I think the final, if we really entered the final dissent was when I went on vacation in Nepal for two weeks. So it was one of these times where I was totally y'all remember that, I was backpacking Nepal. and when I came back like it was chaos like everyone had been fired

some people quit some people were fired but basically like a chaos frag had gone off just just while I was away for a couple weeks and there was like almost no company to return to it was just like how did this happen like how do you fuck up this thing? Yeah and it rang

hollow I remember reading because everybody wanted and I didn't get into it because I'm still contracting I'm overseas I don't know shit about what's going on but I remember ringing hollow to me when they're like, well, we got to cut back expenses. And I'm like, but bro, you fucking just bought your second like airplane, you know? And like, you know, you don't have like the best rep anyway. I had Navy contractors coming up to me all the time wanting to know what's up with Brandon Webb.

And I'm like, I don't bear. I fucking don't know the guy. I can't even tell you. I mean, there's so much out there that I'm just probably not going to get into. I prefer to stick to what I experience firsthand, what I can speak to that I experienced myself. But what I'll say is I stuck with the company through thick and thin because I was a co-founder and I had a very emotional attachment to the company. Like that news website was like my little baby. I had built it up and nurtured it.

And so I had an emotional investment in it. I'll just be totally honest with you. And that's why I stopped. with it through thick and thin for so long. After coming back from Nepal, that real dissent where things got really bad and they just continued to get worse and worse. The website was never really what it was after that final dive. And then what came was that, I mean, in addition to all the other turnovers and staff and personnel and everything else, I was kind of one of the one constant, I guess you could say.

And I was then, after everyone was fired, including our podcast people, I was then asked to do my normal workbook as editor-in-chief and also produce a bi-weekly podcast. And I said, okay, but you have to pay me for that. And I even told them, I had this studio already built out. And I said, hey, I can start recording tomorrow, ready to go. Like turnkey, just, you know, pay me $100 an episode or whatever the hell it's going to be. I said, no. You're going to do more work for less pay. And I should mention my pay at this point, my pay had already been cut by $30,000 that year.

So I'm already like struggling. And you're in NYC too. And now you're asking me to do double the work for much less money than I was making just last year. So I said, look, you've got to pay me to produce this podcast and I'll do it. Okay. And the answer that came back was, no. You can either produce a podcast or you can double the amount that you're writing every week. And I said, I'm not going to do that.

And then they came back, and it was Nick, you know, because they like to go through proxies. Nobody can be a man and just grab their bowls and just say, this is the deal. So they had Nick come to me and say, look, Jack, you do what you're being told to do or you take your two-week notice. And I said, I'll take my two-week notice. later. Oh my God. I'm shocked. I can't believe you.

Like, what do you mean? You're shocked. Like, why would I not do this? You're flaying me alive here. Of course I'm leaving. Yeah, and you know, that's a good point for all these, you know, young aspiring journalists. You know, like, I don't, I'm way past the point for working for free, dude. I'm just not going to do it.

Nope. I'll say, I was sleeping on Jack's couch at this point in time. No shit? Yeah, I was I was I was moving out of my or I moved out of my apartment I was going to move to Jersey City

and that fell through and I had a motorcycle accident and Jack's like, hey, just crash it for a while until you forgot what you want to do. I'm like, okay, cool. So I was at your place for three months. Longer, right then.

Four, five, something like that. A few months. And I will say that Jack was a complete gentleman because I was egging them on. Like I, I'm a bitch.

I will, I will look to undermine, go through the legal resource, everything else like that. And Jack was very stand-up about all of it. It's like, there was a bunch of other stuff where I was given

legally non-binding bullshit paperwork. So like I got, out of a lot of money and stuff like that. I mean, it was bad. Is that still ongoing, that legal shit, or has that been settled? Technically, I mean, it could be.

You know, it could go to court at some point in the future because I have signed paperwork. But when I had a lawyer review, this is basically bullshit paperwork, like, it doesn't necessarily mean a whole hell of a lot. So yeah, technically it could go to court at some point, but I mean, I understand that I got got, I got fucked. Right.

You know, I got taken advantage of and I mean, I guess that's how it works in some areas of business that you just find. Yeah, and it goes back, Jack, to like this is what I'm talking about with this whole, this business model of modern journalism. You know, and how hard it is to fucking make money doing something that you could, people, can get for free. So when I started like just for my own story like so I did the podcast for a year. I was still contracting. I started the podcast and I did it for a year before I decided, okay, I think I'm kind of getting an audience here. I think I'm going to try Patreon. So, you know, I'd heard about Patreon. I was like, well, that sounds like a pretty good deal. Again, I didn't know anything about it. I didn't know the statistics, which is good. Again, ignorance is bliss, right?

So I started the Patreon and, um, and, and I've been on Patreon now for almost three years exactly. And Patreon is, I like Patreon. I know a lot of people have a grudge against Patreon for various political biases or whatever, but, you know, I try to just not do anything to give me a ban from it, but it is kind of disconcerting knowing that if Patreon chose to, you know, they could like kick me off their platform at any time and then I'd be screwed. But Patreon to me is good, but it's difficult. It's a fucking grind.

It's funny. I don't know if you guys have the same thing on your Patreon. grab every month so if you look at like a six-month chart of my patreon donors or patrons it's almost like this sawtooth pattern right yeah first of every month at the first of every month i drop like you know 20 people you know whose credit cards get declined or whatever reason so it's a sawtooth pattern going up up up up up like down and it's a grind you know for sure and people i mean you say something that pisses one person off and they're like they're out you know people it's tough times right now people are losing their jobs yeah you know cancel um but patreon for me i feel really lucky because from what i hear statistically like 90 from what i hear i'm making more on there than like you know

95% of the people on that site and and i'm making and i'll just be straight up i'm very honest with my listeners um i just hit i'm i'm a little shy of my cut being 2100 bucks a month which is fucking amazing, you know, for a solo show and I don't really do a lot of, but I like the page, that way I don't have to do any advertising. If I plug a product on Patreon, if I plug a product on the podcast, it's always something I use personally. And let me segue into that, if you guys aren't fucking support your local veterans businesses, you know, we all talk this big talk about, like, you know, supporting the troops and everything, I try to go on Instagram and I try to buy products from like, you know, veterans and

t-shirts, I buy their t-shirts. And it's not because I'm like trying to like be some, you know, lame, old veteran. I'm trying to support guys trying to make a living out there. And it's not fucking easy. So whether it's like, you know, they're making hair product or a t-shirt or, or, you know, a supplement or something like that,

I'll take it and I'll, and I'll add it. And I'll plug it on the show and I don't ask for any compensation because this is something I really using. So if you want to support, you know, the best way to support my podcast, go on patreon.com, look for BK Actual. Probably the best way to support your guys this podcast, go on Patreon and look for the team house. That's the way to do it.

Put your money where your mouth is, people. Because especially now, in this fucking era of propaganda, journalism is a fucking joke and fake news propaganda. It's so hard to separate yourself from the pack. And if you want to support people who are being a little bit different, then support them. And we're talking like, if it's a buck a month, that's awesome. That's all I ever asked for.

And Jack and I were talking about this earlier, just the idea that when you say fake news, like it's something that Trump kind of coined, but it's legitimate, and both on the left and the right, so much of it is just commentary now and so little facts. And, you know, I follow people on the left, like left-leaning journalists, whose politics I completely disagree with, but who report. professionally. I follow right-leaning, you know, journalists. And they're, they're all losing, they're all losing their grip or their place in that media conglomerate. Yeah, and we have, there's a lot of reasons for it, but one of the reasons is it's a herd mentality. Modern

journalism is very much a herd mentality. Look what's happening. So a lot of people ask me, they're like, what do you do? A little bit about my podcast, you guys. started it because I thought there was like a real lack of international news and I grew up listening to like NPR and you hear those reports right of some like British British chick and she's like today in Zimbabwe the election for the first premiere you know and you're like what what the fuck's going on over there and so like and that's how I was always fascinated with it and I thought I'm like you know I'm going to talk about this and so people are always like well why who do you use

what sources do you use one of my primary sources is the New York Times because they're regardless of what their nutty editorial pages are like they're straight reporting is very good. They do have a fact-checking process. I try to stick with facts. I correct myself if I ever get something wrong or it's fake. I cover everything. A lot of it is, but a lot

of it does turn out to be bullshit. And it just infuriates me at the media how much they manipulate shit. Where, you know, the media, two things stand out in my head in the last four years of, like, one was the koi fish pond incident with Trump. You guys remember that? When he went to the

Japanese premiere, he was right after got elected. So Trump goes to the fucking to Japan. And they do have ceremony where the Japanese premier spoons this fish food into a koi pond. It's some ceremony, right? So what happened

in reality was the Japanese premier did a few spoonfuls of this fish food, very solemn, right? And then he takes the bowl and he dumps the rest of it in a fish pond, right? So then Trump does the same thing. What the media did, though, was they edited the video to show

the Japanese premiere spooning the fish food out all like ceremoniously, and then they cut the video to show Trump the orange man dumping the food like a savage into the pond. And all the media was like, look at this orange man! Like, what a fucking animal, you know? But it was blatant like manipulation. That one stands out a lot. And then the Brett Kavanaugh thing really stood out for me too. the way they smeared that man as a as a serial teenage gang rapist

and they had fucking no qualms people like Jake Tapper I still have the clip I played it on the podcast numerous times of Jake Tapper you know tonight on CNN a third accuser and I'm like are you fucking kidding me right now and they don't care

because of reality television yeah and the media now they really believe Trump is so evil that it's better to, they have to lose any objectivity. They cannot be objective because he is a significant source of evil in the country. And that's what they go after him for. And I've made my thoughts about Trump very clear on the show and elsewhere over the years.

But I think to speak to what you're trying to talk about right now is that what has happened in the left and also largely the media environment in general is they have let Donald Trump turn them them into something that they would have hated previously. Yeah. You know, it's funny. You go, Jack. I mean, remember in, like, the Iraq war when a healthy skepticism of the intelligence community was all the fucking media ever talked about?

Descent is the highest form of patriotism? I remember that. Now you have all these ex-NSA fucking hacks who are on CNN as honored guests, guys who have lied to Congress, James Clapper from the National Security. agency. Fucking John Brennan, CIA, who admitted he lied under oath to Congress. These are honored

guests. And instead of having a healthy skepticism, many of these, these journalists now, they like hero worship these guys. And Jack, you and I have talked about this on Twitter, these resistance generals, you know? These ex generals, they get out of the military, and I don't know if it's because, you know, they have

nothing, they have no cause in life anymore. But they chase likes and retweets on Twitter, all these woke generals. It's fucking comedy gold to me. And I think part of that is you know, it must be hard to go from being a four-star general to being just another old

fucking line at the 7-11 who's taking too long at the cash register in front of me. You know what I mean? That's got to be a fucking hard transit. It was hard for me to transition from the military. Do you imagine being a four-star that you had a huge staff around you and all of the stage? Every time they walk in the room,

they're calling the room to attention, you know? And you're like, damn, I'm king's shit. And now you're just another old fuck. Right. And that's got to be tough. So what do you do? You go on Twitter and you get lots of likes talking about how much you hate the orange man. I mean, I get it.

Well, it's profitable, too. You know, I mean, there's got to be money involved, you know, media appearances, whatnot. But when we're talking about the media and sort of disinformation or whatever, like, I've been in a number of situations that the media misreported. You know, I was in the jock for the Jessica Lynch trade. I was not on the raid. I was in the jock. And I remember, you guys might not remember this, but there's a big story about it being a hoax

and the troops going on with blank adapters. And it was reported. And it was put on the left and it was brought on the right. Like Bill O'Reilly, like when he was a media guy on Fox reported, I'm like, where is this coming from? Right, right. You know, what is going on? Well, it's like extortion

17, the same thing, you know? There's like some big conspiracy about how, you know, oh, this is revenge for bin Laden and they, you know, they planned this, oh, a shit like that. It's like, dude, sometimes the simplest explanation most likely is the right explanation. Well, it's not some big conspiracy.

In the sense that whether, you know, there are the right-wing conspiracy theorists and the left-wing conspiracy theorists and they each have their own generals and admirals that they can go to to tell them exactly what they want to fuck in here. right yeah 100% you know what i covered so like every i remember when the russia collusion thing was going on right i covered it sporadically because it's impossible i'm not going to keep up with the day-to-day

machinations of the resistance fucking collusion conspiracy theory it's impossible right you here's about paul banniford and did he go to hungary and the passport it's too much i'm like when something happens yeah when something happens i'll cover it it's the same thing with like the hunter biden hard drive or whatever i mentioned it because it's in the news i don't fucking know if it's real rudy juliani's a nut you know i don't know what's real and what's not i mean yeah hunter biden obviously was born on third base

thinking he hit a triple i'm sure there's a lot of corruption there but i don't fucking know i compare it to the steel dossier well yeah same exact same thing so there are two things there There's the dossier that NBC came out with, but I don't know where that originated from because it was false. The emails from the Biden hard drive have been proven true, like by some really smart. I can't send you guys the links, but by this really smart guy.

But the way they're going after Hunt, like I just saw a tweet about Hunter and that there's a video of him with a prostitute watching this discussion. disgusting porn. It's like, I've seen it. That's almost every Joe in the military, except they didn't record it. So it goes back to your sense of skepticism. You know, how much of this is real,

how much of it is fake. And then, of course, we're coming right up to an election next week and all this stuff gets dumped. You know, the same thing with the steel dossier. It's like, it's obvious what you're doing here. You know, I get it. I mean, I'm right.

Go ahead. Sorry, B.K. Well, I would think, you know, it's interesting with all the Hunter Biden stuff, again, and the Russia's collusion stuff, again, you just, you have to approach with some skepticism. But even today, Dave, to your point with the hard drive, I saw a tweet from a Washington Post journalist today that said they had requested to see this hard drive in person and nobody has gotten back to him. So, you know, like, hey. Yeah. Show me some fucking, show me, show me some proof or whatever. What's the big scandal?

It's not even really that big. To me, it's not even really that big of a scam. The bigger scandal to me was how the media and Twitter and social media suppressed the story. That made it way more of a bigger story. If they would just come out and let the story, it probably would have been over and done with by now

because what, Hunter Biden, yeah, he used his name to try to get rich. No fucking shit. So does every politician do. You know? So to the Trump kids. That's not the story. The story is really,

how Twitter fucking locked the New York Post out of their account for trying to tweet this out when it was by all accounts, perhaps a factual story. And that's something I don't think we've even grappled with. You know, yes, hey, news flashed all the dummies out there. Yes, I know First Amendment has to do with only the

U.S. government lock, you know, oppression your speech. But we live in an age now where a very few media companies control the flow of information. So it is going to become an issue when some fucking unelected Silicon Valley fact checker who's like 22 years old decides what I can and can't say on a medium that is really the only way to disseminate information in 2020.

I know it's not a government entity, but we already had court cases. I'm fascinated by this. You guys know the court already ruled that Trump couldn't block people from his Twitter account, right? It was a big court. Right. And that sounds to me, being a big dummy, you just create. created a right for me to have a Twitter account.

Did you not? Because you can go on Twitter and look at Trump's tweets, but that wasn't good enough. They said you have to let them interact with you. You have to let them comment. So, Ergo, you're creating this new right of people to not only read his tweets, but interact with this tweets. So by that logic, how can Twitter even ban me from their platform?

If you've created this right that I have a right to interact with the president on this platform. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't really make any sense. And Jack and I have had this discussion because it's a business where capitalist society, they have a right to do whatever they want, but also, so does AT&T. Could AT&T deny me's phone service because of political names? Internet service. Could they, could they deny, could Cox Cable deny me internet because they think my podcast is hateful? Why not? What makes that different than the phone company? I don't think we've even started to grapple with this.

And I'm tired of hearing people just sneeringly say, like, well, they're a private company. They can do whatever they want. Well, first of all, yeah, they're a private company, but they also have, like, the only platform. And they have, like, you know, patents and stuff. You can't just build another Twitter. They have, like, you know, intellectual property that you can't just build another Twitter. You know, they have patents that you can't just mimic their shit. Right.

And Twitter is still the best thing. I use Twitter for breaking news. It's still by far the best thing for breaking news. And so what do you do when a company with the only breaking news media decides, oh, well, you know, we're going to arbitrarily kick people off our platform. We're going to arbitrarily label false information. We're going to keep up some false information. They have no problem labeling Trump's tweets, right, about the election. But you're free to, like, talk all kinds of shit about crazy golden showers and Moscow prostitutes and everything else.

And that's fine. even if you're in the media they won't label any of that it's so fucking hit and miss there's no rhyme or reason to it and you know what i'm dave to what you said i'm very much a capitalist uh that's what made america great right we're all capitalists but there's a difference between being pro capitalist and being pro big business right and all this fucking lockdown has done has destroyed it's consolidating all of our capitalism into a very tiny few big businesses and where's that going to lead a lot of these businesses are not going to coming back. Amazon's fucking bigger than ever.

So are you, I'm pro-capitalist too. I don't want to tell Jeff Bezos how much he can make but at a certain point, if Amazon is, are we going to wait until Amazon supplants everything? Because that's where I'm at. I mean, I'll admit it. I fucking order everything online.

You think I want to go to the fucking store and hang out with a bunch of animals? Hell no. I'm going to fucking sit here and order all my shit. I don't want to be around anybody ever. Has Amazon stock back up on toilet paper? because I know that is a commodity these days. I remember, I remember, you know, I covered the corona.

That's another great thing to bring up, Dave. The COVID thing, I covered that from the very beginning in January, when it was just a little virus in China. And I remember talking about it. And I talked about it every week until now, all the way up to the present. So I've seen the ups and the downs. And I said at the very beginning, this is going to be a cost-benefit analysis. Okay.

What are the costs of shutting down? What are the benefits of shutting down? Well, we now know the costs. right collapse the global economy collapse the stock market put tens of millions of people out of work destroy the u.s. budget and the budget deficit and what are the benefits well fucking guess what newsflash old people get sick and die dude I'm sorry about that that's a fucking fact of life nobody wants to say us out loud you guys in my opinion this is a fucking big calling of the herd you know what in the best way you don't want to get sick and die

you should probably fucking live Jackton Tand lifestyle. Take care of yourself. But this is. We can't, now it seems like we're in a position where we're not going to do anything until nobody gets sick. Doesn't that sound absurd when you say it out loud? And yet that's where we are. You guys probably saw Gavin Newsom is being ridiculed by governor all over the country.

His holiday, you know, guidelines came out. And he's saying, like, you know, keep a mask on unless you take a bite and then put your mask on and chew with your mask on, stuff like that. don't sing, don't have more than four family members. Nobody's going to do any of this. This is all theater at this point. It's sort of like we're choosing the worst option, which is the middle ground.

We should have just had a lockdown for like one or two months and gotten it over with. But instead it's like we're just kind of like dragging it out and having these wishy-washy policies and each state doing their own things. So the virus just kind of like slashes from one side of the country to the other.

Yeah, and it's going to keep going. Yeah, but I don't think we would. going to keep going. Sorry about that. I don't think we've gotten over it in one or two months. Like the whole idea of the lockdown wasn't to get rid of the virus. It was to flatten the curve to not

overwhelm ERs and hospitals. Yes. Unless they come with a cure or a vaccine, you can't stop it. You can keep everybody in lockdown, but you can't stop it. Right. And again,

what's the cost-benefit? And now the World Health Organization's coming out and they're saying, they're saying, lockdowns are not, are not the best policy. This is not the way to do it. So we're fucking stuck with this until we get a vaccine or something else. I don't know if you guys have been

tested. I got tested. I was, you know, didn't have it. I'm pretty careful. And I've been clear from day one. You guys, I'm fine with the masks. I love the mask, actually. Because I can, like, be, I love the anonymity of going out. I got the mask on. I got my sunglasses on my hat. I could, like, you know, kick

the shit out of somebody and not be on the rain jacket in the park. Yeah, yeah, I wear my flat bill. You know, I'm looking all SoCalhood. Have you been flying to Portland to burn down buildings? Yeah, I'll fucking burn down a building. I don't get to fuck. But I like the masks.

I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm YouTube. I'm fine at the masks. I'm fine as the social distancing. I'm fine as the hygiene. Indeed, if all of this that comes out of this is that we're better with hygiene and everything, that's great, right? I'm fine with all of that.

But if the masks work, if the social distancing works, if everything else works, let's fucking get it going again. Let's open back up again. We can't live like this. Our kids are being tremendously damaged, opiate uses that are all time high. Teen suicides are at an all time high. This is killing. I was listening to some like, you know, childhood development experts. They're like, these are the formative years.

Your kids are not going to get these years back. And as somebody who has young nieces and nephews, this Zoom education thing, It's a fucking pipe dream. My sister has to literally sit next to my seven-year-old nephew, who's filled with boy energy, who can barely sit still as it is in a classroom. And she's got to sit next to him and make him be at this thing. And he's not learning shit, dude.

So again, cost-benefit analysis. Are some people going to get sick and die? Yes. Sadly, they will. That's fucking life, dude. I don't know what to tell you. Kids, especially young kids, they have to socialize.

Otherwise, they become unabomers. You know, they get weird. Right, and we're warping these kids and they're not going to recover. You can't just like, you know, with children, you can't just like, you know, turn them off and then turn it back on and hope you make up that lost ground. It doesn't fucking work that way. So, I don't know. For these people, like, yeah, but we can't take a chance. I'm like, you know what, if you fucking don't like it, then you stay home.

Don't fucking, like, lecture the rest of us who want to go out and live our life and take a little chance. I can step out on the curb and get hit by a fucking bus tomorrow. That's the chance I'm going to take, you know. We all die someday. Right. I don't know. I'm a bad dad. I let my daughter go on her Zoom class and go do your Zoom thing and come back when you're done.

Yeah. They're like doing the hybrid thing, so she's in school one or two days a week. So she said you want to go back to school. So I go back to school. You wear your mask. You do your thing. It's good. It's tough on the kids.

thing is with the response, it's interesting to me. There's definitely like lessons learned. Could we have done things differently? Absolutely. But let's be, the thing that cracks me up with Joe Biden on the campaign trail. And I said this because I did the debates, live commentary, did debate specials. And he kept saying like, well, I'm going to, he's like, well, I have a plan. I have a plan. He doesn't say anything he would be doing differently. And indeed, he would be doing nothing differently right now. In the beginning, maybe that wasn't true. But right now, at the beginning, at the beginning, nobody would have done anything differently. I don't care how woke of a president we had. No U.S. president is going to have like, you know, two people dead from a Chinese virus and be like, that's it, guys, we're shutting down the U.S. economy. Nobody, no U.S. president ever would have done that. It would have been too politically unfeasible. So for all these people now with hindsight 2020 saying like, well, we should have, it just was never going to happen. But another president may have listened to their medical advice. rather than kind of trash them in a public setting. Yeah, that is true.

He's a big dumb oaf like that, for sure. But I tire, I grow weary of people talking about science when science has never settled, Jack. We don't fucking know. We didn't know anything about this shit when it started. We know far more now, which is why the mortality rates have gone down tremendously. We have many more people testing positive. and that's a whole other question I have

is about these tests I mean you saw the NFL players some of them you know they all test positive then they all test negative I mean how many of these fucking tests are false positives anyway but we know way more about so we have with the rapid testing we have tons of people getting tested so naturally cases are going to go up but our mortality rate is way down because we've gotten way better we know the virus now

and we're treating it a lot better some of the numbers that are coming out now actually show that you know the EU's mortality rate has been higher than ours so maybe we're not as bad off as we may have thought despite the gnashing of teeth that has gone on it's a tough deal the nursing home thing was a big deal at the beginning

I mean that was a huge majority of our deaths are these people who are old and sick and you guys have probably heard the statistic when a person goes into a nursing home I think the average is like they stay there for like four months before they die that was pre-COVID you know so that's like once you go to the nurse That's like the last stop.

So once these, in California, in L.A. County at one point, the nursing home deaths were half of all the deaths. And it was a tremendous percentage of it. And these are almost all very elderly people with underlying conditions exacerbated by this virus. And yes, they died. But to translate that, I think our media has done a terrible disservice. Because all they do is these alarmist fucking headlines, you guys, they don't talk about mortality. When is the last time you saw the amazing? major media cable show, start off by saying, hey, just be a reminder, this is a 99%

survivable virus, which it is, almost unheard of to death and young people. They never talk about that. Something I wanted to float by you and Dave here on that note is the catastrophism in our culture, including in the media, is that everything is apocalyptic all the time. Yes. I'm old enough to remember ISIS back in 2015 and how they were going to sweep across the United States and install Sharia law in any town USA. We just moved on. We move on to the boogalus were a thing for like two weeks.

And Adam Woffin was like a thing for two weeks. And then Antifa is a thing for a couple weeks. And it's just like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's like one catastrophe after the next. And it never ends. And I think that our society, you know, on a system. a level, like, it's inducing mental illness in people. Like, we're all losing our fucking minds.

No, it is. It is. It's part of that what I talked about earlier. It's that radicalization. You know, people are becoming radicalized, and they can't, like, unplug. I don't even know if it's that, really. I don't really know how you combat it. Because there is a big problem. People make these mountains out of molehills, you know? Like, you know, Qaeda, right? Let's take that, for example. because I remember like a couple weeks ago

every fucking major media outlet on Twitter they were fucking going ballistic about QAnon Q&on Q&N and then forgot about it I'm like I'm like motherfucker we have like city blocks in smoldering ruins

in Minneapolis that will never come back maybe not for a decade and you're talking about QAnon who is that some boomer fucking meme on Facebook like yeah it's silly it's weird

but they're not fucking torching police stations either. So I think your priority now, I'm glad I'm happy to talk about QAnon, which I didn't even know what the fuck that was until like two weeks ago. I was like, what is? I still don't really understand it. Like, I guess it's a person, you know, in the deep state, he's like a deep cover agent. Sort of. It's complicated, man.

Yeah, it's sort of this. But my point being is the media really fucking freaked out about QAnon while completely ignoring the billions of dollars in damage, the dozens of dozens of murders, the hundreds of businesses just in Los Angeles alone that were destroyed during the George Floyd protest riots, whatever you want to call them, they ignore all that to focus on QAnon.

They ignore all that to focus on the proud boys. I mean, the fucking proud boys? What the fuck is that? Like, three dozen dudes in their mom's basement or whatever? And I'm supposed to be all super scared of them. And this boogaloo thing. that's interesting to me too because the media wants to shoehorn that

into this whole right wing thing I'd be very they're not that's a wide swat of ideology this boogaloo thing well they want to pigeonhole it into white supremacy which it really isn't no it's not it's a lot of them are like it seems to be more like

a lot of these guys the guys who were arrested for the Michigan thing they were almost like anarchists who were out there supporting the BLM protests. And they hate cops. So how is that right wing? If you think right wing, you think right,

if you're going to stereotype a right wing person, usually right winger is like authority law enforcement. Brian, a lot of these groups like Q&N, Boogaloo, they define normal political expectations as far as like putting them and bundling them into a political ideology. They're not a recognizable political ideology. But because that's the media environment, and that's our social environment that we all grew up with.

That's the frame of reference we have. And so we try to put each one of these groups into this bucket that we can understand. 100% right. And the media, Jack, is too stupid to really do any discerning analysis of it. Like you said, they want to put it into either pro-Trump or anti-Trump. That's the only thing that matters. You're either in one of those two things. You can't possibly have any nuance in between the two.

And I would say to, like, people who are into news, and I have my audience, I know about your guys' audience, I've seen the demographics. My audience skews very young male. And I tell them, I'm like, you know what, Jack, I know you went to Columbia. I went to a fine social justice warrior, you know, a liberal arts university out here. I had a great education, a fantastic education. I had to do a lot of reading. And I'm really glad I had that. I would say education is important. you really learn to like do critical thinking and have a healthy air skepticism and it is important to be exposed to these other groups and other cultures and go through all that you know it's not and you learn that shit is not that bad but i would say like i really think we have a tremendous lack of education in this country almost everybody i meet is a complete fucking dumbass like i can tell within three seconds of them talking i'm like okay you're a fucking idiot and i just write them up i'm like hey i got an idea how you fucking read a book? Why don't you start with that?

And not Harry Potter. Yeah. That's a frustrating conversation. And, you know, it's the whole other side is I think that, you know, some of your critiques of the media are quite accurate. The further critique I would make is of the public and that, I mean, like you said, we have an uneducated public in many ways. And they will tell you they want facts.

But if you try to give them facts, they just like kind of. glaze over. A little bit of drool from you down here. And I mean, yeah, and these media companies, I mean, they're no business. It's a business, right? So they're going to put up what sells. What sells? Resistance conspiracy theory has been fucking unbelievable for CNN. They probably would have been bankrupt by now. Right? So they're going to keep doing that. And so you're right. The public has it. I don't, I refuse to watch cable news. The only time I even get into the clips of it at all is when I see trending clips on Twitter.

I don't have cable news. I mean, vote with your wallet. Again, people. Vote with your fucking wallet. Cancel your fucking cable package if you hate CNN. Yeah. Well, 100% agree. Brian, you know, you said that the media's too dumb to delve into the nuance,

but really it doesn't serve them to delve into the nuance. Because, like, this isn't a modern problem, right? Mankind has been tribalistic since the beginning. Very much. doing the other thing, they're not like us, gives us a sense of belonging, gives us a sense of unity. Someone pointed out to me one time that this thing that we have this idea about journalists

and the media that it's like this conspiratorial thing that they're pitching the liberal agenda, they're forcing the gay agenda, or whatever the hell it is, Soros money, they're forcing it all on you. What's really happening in journalism is that they're just taking the path of least resistance to advance their careers.

So they are covering the stories that are the most beneficial to them. It's the low-hanging fruit that they can go and chase after and put out there, do a nice quick turnaround, and will advance their career. Yeah. And I think there's tremendous peer pressure in the journalism industry, too, these professional journalists. Dude, nobody wants to be the Hillary's emails guys. You know, they don't want to.

So if something comes out bad about Joe Biden, they're not going to fucking cover that because they don't want, especially before an election, they don't want to do that. Right. Yeah, it's hard. It's like you said, Dave. It's very tribal. You know, these kids in journalism schools, you know, they're all very woke, you know, and they're being trained from a young age that, you know, you don't just talk about certain things.

And things like this, what we're doing, these long-form shows, these long-form. We don't live in a society that values long-form anything. Right. You know, whether it's a long book to read, whether it's. it's a long radio show, whether it's a long anything, whether it's a long TV show. We live in a society that values, you know, the 30-second hot bit from CNN that can go viral on Twitter. It takes time. That's why I like the podcast form that I have, because I can take my time and really explore a story and really go into the backstory of it and talk about the history of it.

We don't have that on cable news. You get two minutes on a topic if you're lucky. But that, and that doesn't make them money. Like, look at the longest running series and histories have probably been soap operas, right? General Hospital and the guiding light, things that draw people in, and every episode there's a kidnapping or a betrayal or a murder or somebody dies and they come back. That's what humans crave. And modern media, especially with a 24-hour news cycle, has picked up on that. And that's why Trump is the perfect president for this era, because he is that president.

It's like, who's going to be the next Supreme Court Justice? To tune in next episode to find out, Brian. I was joking when we were doing the election, we were doing the debate specials. A commercial came up for the debate, and it was funny. It was like, tonight only the last debate, Trump versus Biden. It's such a fucking sporting event, dude, it cracks me up. And even now, with the election. next week, right? It's like, it all comes down to this.

You know, it's like, fuck, man. That's just the culture now that we have. It's funny to me. So, Brian, I mean, we're here, we're in the heat of the moment. I've had a couple drinks. Dave's had a couple drinks. Yep. We got an election coming up next week. What are your thoughts? What are your observations going into this thing next week? And are there any predictions that you would be so bold to make. I am going to make a prediction because I feel like I have to. Okay, so I would say, again, that we are fortunate to live in the United States of America,

greatest country on the planet, not even fucking close. If you ever traveled internationally, you already know this. So it's not that bad. Again, I've told people on the podcast from day one, whether Trump wins next week or whether Biden wins next week. my life and your stupid life is not going to change at all. Your shit is it's not going to. So all these people who are like treating this like it's a life and death event,

you fucking are, you got a deep program, bro. You're fucking getting sucked in. Your municipal and city council and mayoral elections matter of fucking hell of a lot more to your day to day life than whoever, whatever dumb ass is the president. That's for sure. As far as Trump.

Okay. I did vote for Trump in 2016 because, because he was running against Hillary Clinton, who I loathed. And I predicted that Trump would lose in 2016. So did I. I have said multiple times that I think Joe Biden is going to win. But just because I'm in a public forum, I'm going to lay it out there. I'm not going to bet against Trump again.

I think he's going to fucking pull it out. So what the hell? I think Trump is going to win fairly. I think he's going to win Florida. I think he's going to win Pennsylvania. I think he's going to do very, he's not going to win California. I think he will get more votes, like raw number votes, than any Republican has ever gotten from California. Really?

That's a pretty good. Because of the policies in California the last couple years? Yeah, you know what? He's been, so some of the things, he's obviously a giant oath, but I don't mind that because my uncles were all East Coast, like Oafish, New York, Newark guys. I grew up with that. Jack, you know the type of guy. the loud, fucking obnoxious. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, fuck you.

You know, that guy. Trump's that guy. So it didn't bother me. He was born and raised in Queens. Right, right, exactly. What do you fucking expect, right? So one thing, so I will say there are some things he should get some credit for. One of the things was the illegal immigration stuff. He, more than any president in my lifetime, actually pressured Mexico to stop fucking letting

tens of thousands of Central American illegal immigrants up through their country on their way to the United States and he finally waved the big stick and they did stop. And I still remember when Trump said we're going to pressure Mexico

all the real experts were like, oh, this will never work and I'm like, what the fuck good is it having the big stick if you don't wave it around every once in a while? And he did. And it worked.

Illegal immigration dropped tremendously. So that was one thing he did good. We haven't really gone into too many stupid wars too much or increased troop levels in too many places, which is good, I think. The economy was good until COVID. But the debt is horrible. Our deficit is higher than server.

Nobody cares about that anymore. You know, I grew up my whole life hearing good fiscal Republicans talking about the debt and the deficit. And it's like I'm starting to wonder, maybe none of that shit matters. Maybe it doesn't matter. Maybe we just print more money, you know, and nothing. nothing will change. I don't know. I don't know the answer. I'm not sophisticated enough in financial policy. But I know that the debt, he's not like a conservative, right? We haven't cut shit. I mean, our federal debts and our deficits are higher never before. So to paint Trump is this like,

you know, crazed right winger isn't really accurate to me. He was a lifelong New York liberal. Yeah, he was. But people hate him for his personality, which is understandable. But he's not really a policy guy either. So it's like, you try to say, No, he's a figure, no, and Trump clearly, clearly his favorite thing to do is go to the rallies, have rallies, and bag on the fake news. That's his favorite thing to do, obviously. And I got news for all the fucking resistance liberals, regardless if he wins or loses, the rallies are going to continue. I can fucking guarantee you that. He's going to keep doing the rallies.

So get used to it. One thing that has been consistent about Trump, like from May the 70s or 80s when he started, interviews have been his positions on China, you know, like certain economic positions. I think that's how he pushes everything in economics. I think he would be a good, like, not minister, but secretary of something. I think that the, like I don't have a major issue with Trump. Like you say, he's enough. If he got off Twitter, things would be drastic.

different for him. They're going to miss him so much when he's gone, though. Fucking people. I mean, he's made people's careers. All these, like, never-trump people, all these Lincoln products. The fucking woke vets, you guys, on Twitter,

who have blown up completely? They were schlubs. Nobody cared about them. They made their careers of this guy. Oh, come on, Brian. I mean, they were doing the same thing to Bush. You know what? I'm not going to name any names, but some of these woke vets, bro. Holy fuck.

Like seriously, I want to tell them, like, I tweet Jack about a wide variety of topics. Some of these woke vets, I mean, it's like obsessive, dude. All they do is tweet about Trump all frigging day long. But it's cloud. How do you live like this? You're a grown man. But it's cloud. If you're a veteran and you're liberal or anti-Trump, that is massive cloud.

I used to joke with Jack about that. I used to joke with Jack, like, hey, dude, we should, as a social experiment, we should set like a Twitter account where we pretend to be like real woke combat vets or something. I guarantee you we'd have like 10,000 followers and like, yeah, Brian, Brian the male feminist that hates Trump. Yeah. They've seen all the time. Yeah, dude. It's like an anti-second amendment veteran. It doesn't matter what the branch they served in, what field they served in. They could have been a cook. But if they're anti-2A and they say, oh, these are murder weapons for the military only. I mean, I think

Mill Twitter in general is just outright bizarre. It's like a parallel dimension and there are all these people who I mean, their anti-Trump stuff is just kind of like water off a duck's back as far as I'm concerned at this point but it's like they're kind of war against the United States military and like how they want to make war cute again is just the weirdest goddamn thing to me.

And the only thing I can imagine is that it's because they were they were not like me and you Brian they were not like Dave they were working in essentially a corporate setting in the US military as an office job so like the notion of like soldiers engaged in ground

combat and like you're seeing the flies crawl across the dead guy's eyeball like they never had that kind of experience and so when I'm like hey all of your you know this bullshit where you think the troops are going to wear unicorn t-shirts and they're going to be all woke and shit like that

you're selling the public a false bill of sale here. Like this is a lot of bullshit. This is not what war is. Right. And they want, and it's funny to me, they want these guys. They imagine, and Mill Twitter, first of all, I don't click up on social media because I try to stay, with, Mill Twitter is the worst out of all of them. Like you said, it's a bunch of fucking poge legs who fucking never did shit. But like you said, it's like they imagine, you think you're going to have a guy who goes from literally shooting fucking three. dudes in the fucking face at point-blank range and he's going to turn around and have an attitude

like he's in the Berkeley fucking faculty lounge. It's just not reality. You can't create. You're going to have to have some dudes doing dirty business. Right. You know, whether you like it or not. And it can be, we can talk all day long about, you know, being an honorable soldier, warfighter and kind of churching it up.

At the end of the day, dude, you're fucking looking at brains spattered against the wall. You're looking at body parts and maggots and blood and shit. And like you said, people are like far rude. And our media doesn't really help because we seldom show those images. Yeah, right. We don't really show the costs of the war. But the reality is also that in a real shooting war, our country desperately needs those people. And that's something that the woke, you know, the Miltwitter world does not want to acknowledge.

That guy you hate, that man, that young man that you hate so fucking much because he tells Dick jokes, this country desperately needs that person. And I'm not like, you know, vet bro dude, like, you know, you need me up on that wall. But at the same time, like, let's acknowledge that there's another side of the U.S. military that also has a role to fulfill. And furthermore, my point on this entire topic, really, is that if you're progressive, you're a progressive liberal, you should find a better venue for your politics than the U.S. military. Because you are asking the military to be the one thing that it cannot be, which is

progressive. Right. Military rights nature is conservative. It's perconian. Right. And every other institution in America is pretty progressive anyway. And at the end of the day, Jack, like you said, you're going to need these guys. If you want to be, have a woke military

who's going to stay in Afghanistan because the mission is now to make sure that, you know, young girls can go to school, well, fucking guess what? Eventually, you're going to have to have some young kid who probably tells off-color jokes, fucking shooting some Taliban dudes in their head. And you know what? And yeah, he and his friends probably tell racist jokes and use coarse language.

Ooh, my heavens. You know, it's fucking embarrassing. I'm like, bro, you're talking about like the infantry. Guys who are like stomping the guts out of dudes. And there is nothing more impressive than the American fighting man. Even now, as woke as we are, I'll take five fucking guys in the U.S. military over 100 Iraqis any fucking day. Right.

Any day. because you know what they're going to fucking stand and fight and they're going to face the enemy and it's going to be like there's no quit I mean we've had just the heroism that came out of the GWAT

the fact that there's only been what 18 medals of honor for the GWad is a fucking disgrace and two of them well from one person who was a PJ who?

Oh yeah yeah that's right yeah yeah and it's there should be a lot more I'll just leave it at that Yeah. Well, and also I'm fast, I'm also fascinated with the difference between the veterans on IG and the veterans on Twitter. Yeah.

Because I've only been on, I've only been on IG for like two years. Because I was on Twitter for a long time. That was my only thing. So I got on IG like two years ago because I wanted to like, you know, grow the podcast and get an audience. And like, you know, the IG veteran meme accounts are great. I follow a lot of them. But, you know, they're anonymous though. They can talk a lot of shit. You know, you and I and Dave, you know, we're. putting our names and faces out there, which is a whole other ballgame,

you know, and so like, I have people, you know, talking shit to me, and I'm like, yeah, well, fuck, I want you show your fucking face, you coward. Yeah, exactly. You know, so talk all that shit behind that fake picture. Yeah. Well, I don't know.

So, do you have an opinion on Greenwald? Oh, Glenn Greenwald? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know Jack is not a fan of him. I don't know his whole back story. What I do, I have, I do have an affirmation for, I'm a big, I'm a big speech guy. To me, like the end of, you got to, you got to have like freedom of speech.

I don't care if it's through, I don't care if it's Twitter or social media or the government or anything. Like, the more speech to me is the better. The way to combat speech is to not, you know, kill it. It's to combat it with more speech. Right. So, so if he, like, I don't know, I guess now he's saying he quit his job because they wouldn't publish like a what's considered a anti-Biden piece on him. I mean, so be it. You know, I know, it's like I said,

I hope he fucking starts his own thing, but it's hard for money writing on the internet. It's hard. Yeah, he's on a sub-stack now. I don't know how that works. I don't know if people make money on that or what. I don't either. You don't care for him? Greenwald? Jack, you had a beef with him about the NSA thing, right?

Or something like that? Did I really? I mean, I never had like a with him in that regard, like a personal thing. I guess I have had an issue with, I, straight up, I don't think that it was the right thing to do to release classified documents in the manner that they did. You know, had I came across a week like that, would I report on it? Yeah, definitely.

But when I just released shitloads of TSSCI documents onto the internet, no, I don't think. Okay, all right, Jack, speaking in that same vein, I actually have another question for you that I got asked a couple things. and it was about the Niger video. Oh, yeah. And all that shit that you caught for publishing that. If you guys don't know what I'm talking about,

these are the SF guys who were, of course, killed in that gunfight with the al-Shabaab dudes in Niger. And the video was released, and you, Jack, you chose to put it on soft rep. And I actually agreed with that. Because, in my opinion, it's already fucking out there. You know, so, you know, maybe we should put it in some context and something. And so, I don't know, maybe you want to talk about, like,

I know you got a lot of shit for that, though. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, I can definitely talk about it again. I've written about it. I've written articles about trying to address the issue. I've responded to people who ask me about it whenever they do. I wrote about it my book.

Talked about it from the Special Forces Association. I mean, long story short, I don't know where specifically you want to go with it, But, long story short, yeah, that the event itself happened. And then what happened was that some of the guys on that operation, some of the American Special Forces soldiers, were wearing helmet cams. At least one of them were wearing a helmet cam. So ISIS killed those service members. They came up there and they captured that person's helmet camera.

And they took that footage and they turned it into one of those ISIS propaganda films. That probably all you guys are familiar with where they're playing the jihad music. in the background and there's the black ice it's flag fluttering yeah that kind of stuff if you're not familiar them don't look them up just no it's propaganda it's it's propaganda and furthermore what they did in that particular video was that they added their own soundtrack so they added all these sounds of like screams and cries to make it look like these green berets who are like essentially they're trying to portray them like they're crying like a bunch

of fucking bitches and that's what but those were edits that they put into the Right. They were not real. And you made that clear when you published the video, I remember because you wrote an article about it. And that's why I think it was important to put it out there. Like, we have to address this because you can't just let this lie like this fake news, this propaganda. You have to say like it's propaganda. And sometimes you have to show the propaganda. And here's what it is.

It's no point in discussing it without showing it, I don't think. But it was tough. I mean, it was very tough to watch. It was incredibly tough to watch. And what happened was that some of the guys who worked for me, they came across the propaganda video and it had not been found or widely viewed quite yet. I mean it was I'm a verge of going viral in the next day or two probably. And what we did was that we took the video and to the best of our ability we edited the

propaganda out of it. So those cries and screams and the jihadi music, we kind of took that out of it and the the fluttering ISIS flag, and this was a big mistake we made, honestly. This is on us. We covered that up with a company logo, and I gave a really bad impression that we were trying to own this video footage, like, oh, you know, it was a bad decision that was made. And, you know, I'll take the heat for that.

That was the wrong thing to do. We shouldn't have been done. But otherwise, editing the propaganda aspects out of it, and we also edited the gore out of it because they're, I mean you should, if you go looking for this footage I mean, be warned, it's incredibly graphic even though we blurt

out some of the gore. It's still it's not light viewing and most of you probably don't want to see it and probably you shouldn't see it. The original video is very, very tough a lot. And it's very personal. It's a helmet cam, so

it's from the first person perspective. It's very intimate and a very disturbing way. So we edited it in the manner that I just described and we published it. And we tried to explain what had happened and what this was and what it was not. And in my mind and in the minds of the other folks, I think we all thought that we were doing the right thing, that we're informing the public, that we were taking this video that was already out there, but we were showing it in the proper context. And we were not perpetuating enemy propaganda.

That was not how the video was received, to say the least. Right. Yeah, I remember. I remember people, I remember getting blown up about it. What the fuck's going on over there? What are you guys showing? I'm like, dude, you know what? I don't know.

It was a tough call either way. Yeah. Because if you don't show it, then like, you know, you're not even, it's like the elephant in the room, right? I don't know. It was a tough call. Other people were, I mean, it was going to go viral in the next maybe 24, 48 hours regardless.

Right. I think there are things that I would have done a little bit differently to work on the messaging and present it a little bit better. Maybe I would have presented stills from the video instead of showing the video in its entirety. But like you were saying

about free speech and that kind of airing these things out is the best policy. On the other hand, maybe putting it out there in that way and just showing people if they care to see that, if they care to see factual information

because there was a lot of propaganda and a lot of misinformation about what had happened that day. That video shows factual information and because that video was released, the Pentagon had to go back and they had to start telling the families the truth about how some of their family members died. That's right. And you know what?

There's something to be said about like I alluded to earlier, you know, we're so far removed in our society these days from a violent war you know, that some of these young kids who have these romantic ideas maybe about being a ranger or seal or PJ it's like, this is fucking what can happen, dude. You know, you could get overrun by a bunch of

fucking guys shouting Al-Ahu Akbar and you could get killed. I mean, this is really, this is not, it's not all fucking cool guy, fucking beard pictures and everything else. There's like death. I mean, imagine, and with the females in the military, I mean, God forbid, We get a couple video helmet cams with some females getting fucking ripped to shreds by a Taliban machine gun. How the fuck do you think that would go over with the American public?

Right. Not well. Yeah. And it's not just the kids idealizing the military, you know, growing up playing video getting stuff. There are so many people. We have hawks on the left and the right now, right? I mean, I remember when Iran shot down the drone and all these liberals were criticizing. Trump for not bombing

Iran and it's I'm like when did the liberals become hawks like when did that happen they're supposed to be the peacemicks like that's supposed to be the bad dude vote vote vets that that big activist group on Twitter vote vets very left wing every day they tweet

out it's been 120 whatever days since reports of Russian bounties on our troops heads and it's like A what do you want us to do invade Russia and B that shit's been fucking that They asked the fucking commander of sentcom, the general in charge of Afghanistan about this. And he's like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

The media has debunked it. That didn't keep Obama just the other day on a speech in Philly. He said, oh, it's taken his gospel now. There are troops, there are bounties on our troops' heads. It's become conventional gospel in the resistance circles. This is another one of those things, Brian, back to our conversation about the media. Yeah, this is a legitimate gripe I have with the media and some of my colleagues out there is that I feel that they take advantage of the public's ignorance and a certain type of reporting that is done

where they say the CIA has reports, that the CIA has a report that the Russians were putting bounties on American troops and Afghanistan. Right, right. Now, the CIA may very well have reports. That may be completely factual information. Yes. The CIA has reports on all kinds of bat-shit insane stuff. They have reports on UFOs. They have, I mean, name some insane thing, they have a report because a case officer or somebody, an intelligence officer, met with somebody somewhere.

And they told them a whole line of bullshit. And they had to write it up in the cable traffic. This is what we talked about. So just the notion that they have a report means nothing. Right. That's what I was trying to say on the podcast. I was like, dude, this could be like some fucking. turd walks into the case officer.

He's like, oh, my friend, great to see you. My brother's, cousins, sisters, husband, tell me, man, give money for shoot American. And that's the whole fucking story. And now it's Russian bounties. But it all came from that one fucking thing third hand. And the media takes and they're like, wow, this is actually totally true. Yeah.

And now if the Directorate of Intelligence, the analysts and the CIA look at all this information and they assess it to be accurate, now you've got a totally different story. But just the fact that you're saying there's a report somewhere, that doesn't really mean much of anything. It's the same with Hunter Biden's emails, and I see the reports this week. The FBI has an open investigation. And so the public sees that and they say, oh, the FBI is investigating? It must be true. No, FBI's investigating all sorts of shit. That doesn't mean anything in of itself.

Yeah, it's again, but there's no, the media can easily say this. And the public doesn't know better. But they choose not to say any of this part. They choose not to context or frame it in any way. It drives me crazy. Right. It's very frustrating.

And whether they don't understand how the human intelligence cycle works, or whether they do and they're relying on civilians not knowing that some of them know that sources

a lot of them make that's how they make their living being sources yes right yeah they go into a case officer and they get paid a lot of money for information

no matter what that information is they get paid and they need to keep that going and if they run dry did they need to come up with something in order to keep that money coming. Yeah, and the CIA overseas bases have big safes in the

in the skiffs filled with fucking banded $100 bills millions of dollars. And they're fucking peeling it out, baby. That's right. Feeling it out. And fucking when Ahmed down the road says, oh, I can make some money here.

Oh yeah, yeah, I got some shit for you. And he goes and tells the CIA guy the CIA guy writes down and like you said, then the cable traffic goes into the black hole. Or it doesn't. And he has to write it up, or she has to write it up. They have to write it up. It's Intel. Yeah, and it's not an insult to the CIA

people. I mean, I worked with many of them. And, you know, they're very, they're patriots. And some of those guys are fucking pipe hitters. My old boss was killed in action, you know, as one of those guys. And they're fucking tip of the spear and all that. But, you know, they're, they're at the

mercy of what people are telling him and you got to kind of again the critical thinking here and skepticism is the politicization of intelligence that's the problem yeah and it doesn't help when you have all these fucko ex-analysts who are now CIA or CNN contributors who are like

orange man bad orange man bad get me Twitter likes and followers I got a book to sell right I mean it's the most fucking the irony is the people who hate Trump the most have benefited the most from his presidency Yeah, I agree. All these journalists have become

mediaists. They've become celebrities. Jim Acosta became a fucking celebrity because of Trump. Chris Cuomo is a celebrity because of Trump. That dopey fucking comedian, that chick who does the she lip sinks along with Trump speeches, Sarah Cooper or whatever her name it.

That's her only fucking act. She doesn't even tell jokes. But she's become super famous for that and she hates him. And I'm like the irony. The guy made your career and you hate him. It cracks me up. It's funny, though, because it's just a cycle.

I remember when the Bush Obama, were they running against each other, or had Bush done his eight? I can't remember now. But anyway, I remember I was talking to a comedian, a stand-up, and he's like, like when Obama won, I'm like,

I don't know what I'm going to do now, because Bush was a, Bush was the deal. Bush was the act. You know? And that's kind of how it is. And they're going to try. And so if Joe Biden wins, that's funny.

I've thought about that a lot. Like if Joe Biden wins, you know, they're going to try to keep up this hysteria a little bit, but it's going to be half-hearted. Yeah. They're not, because Trump is a unique.

He's a very villainous figure, you know. And he enjoys it. You can tell. He brings it all. He loves it. He thrives on it. He loves the fucking. people hate him. So Joe Biden's not going to be like that. You know, Joe Biden is not Hillary Clinton either,

who is also uniquely dislikable. Joe Biden, he's filled with dementia. He probably doesn't even know where his pants are at any given moment, but he's not like a, he's not an unlikable dude. You know, he's like George Bush that way. You would sit down and have a brusky with Joe Biden. I would, I don't hate Joe Biden. How do you about Kamala? Kamala. She is, I, I dislike her far more than Joe Biden. Yeah. She's, she's, she's, I, I, I dislike her far more than Joe Biden. Yeah. He's very much a phony. She's a big-time hypocrite.

You know, got her start as a prosecutor district attorney who famously let, you know, many MS-13 guys out of prison and who went on to commit horrible crimes and murders. And so I think she's a giant phony who will say or do whatever it takes to advance her political career. At least Joe Biden to be a, he's a pretty authentic guy, you know. He is what he is. Unfortunately, what he is is an almost 80-year-old man who's rapidly slidly. flipping into dementia. Let's not fool ourselves.

Let's fucking go back 10 years. Look at when he was running with Obama. Just look at how crispy was in his speeches. You can just see, and it's no shame in it. Father time comes for us all, man. I've said it 100 times. There's no shame in it. It's almost like abuse to me that they trot this fucking poor bastard out. You know?

They're like, Joe, you got to go out there again. And fucking, on that note, by the way, I don't care if you hate Trump. He's doing like 15 fucking rallies in the next three days, dude. I can't. I've been. I get pissed off if I have to walk to the store at this point in my life. Can you imagine being like 70-something years old and flying around and doing these rallies?

I mean, he's either on some serious Adderall or something, man, because he's got some, that's crazy as energy. That's something that's been mysterious to me, because I remember when Reagan got elected, and the big joke was how he was almost 60 or something. And, you know, the comedians would talk about, oh, my grandfather is 60, We don't even trust them with the remote control, the nuclear button. And now all the front runners, on the left of the right, are, yeah, these boomers are going to hold on the power into their hundreds.

That's never going on. They are. They are the worst fucking generation, really. You know, they really are. And it is funny. I mean, you know, 80 is the new 60, you know. Brian, I want to ask you to stay for the bonus segment if you can. I know I've already kept you for like an hour and a half.

Sure. Let me just check my, okay, I'm looking good on battery power. I'm good there. Okay, guys, I'm going to see the questions. All right, go pull them up real quick. And guys, in the meantime, please go check out Brian's podcast. Brian, what's the name of the podcast and where can people find it? Okay, guys, so it's World News with BK. You can find it on Spotify, iTunes, recently on IHeart Radio, also at the Google store. at the very least, you know, I talk, at the very least, even if you don't like all the political nonsense, you will learn a lot about what's going on around the world. We talk a lot about international conflict, international politics, international disasters, and I also play all the clips of people having meltdowns in the store over the masks, all the racial confrontation. I'm pretty

proud of the fact that on any given week, you're going to hear a lot of racial slurs in my podcast. I'm going to hear of people screaming at each other. So it's definitely, an adult show. It's pretty unique, I feel. Again, I'm the only, I feel like it's one of the longest running veteran host of podcasts out there. It's been almost four years now. Just about every week. I barely missed a week. And it's unique and I rarely have guests. And we go straight through and however it comes out, it comes out. And I try to have a good time. So check it out. And I don't take myself too seriously and neither should you guys. So check it out. A couple things. You always have great intro music. Thank you very much. I'll probably get it. I'll probably, I'll probably, I'll probably. get dinged on that someday for royalties, but fuck it else delete everything. It is a great sampling

of interesting and important news around the world that in our one or two story media cycle, whether you're on the left or the right, it does matter. You're not getting. Right, and I always finish, if you've seen the teasers on Twitter or Instagram,

I always like to finish with a horrific humanity story of what we the horrible things we do to ourselves. For example, last week was the man in the UK who was arrested for a chicken necrophilia. Not just chicken fucking, mind you. He fucked the chickens to death. So as he was fucking them, they died, but he would still finish.

So they had the necrophilia charges on top of that. And his wife. And his wife. And along with them and filmed it off. Yeah. Yeah. His wife was into it. They found each other.

Yeah. That's a perfect match. I mean, one in, you know, billions. That is a very specific OKCupid questionnaire right there. Yeah, yeah. There's somebody out there for everybody, boys. Don't despair, Kings.

For sure, for sure. And look, like Brian says, you know, left or right, Trump wins, Biden's wins. Your life's going to go on. The Constitution stands. It saves us from all this. And I'm glad he said that, Dave. The important thing is the fucking Constitution. It's not whatever fucking

dope happens to be the president. the most important amendment is the first amendment 100% that's why they made it the first amendment anybody who tries to fucking change that is an enemy of the united states constitution in my eyes and i don't care if it's a fucking nameless silicon valley oligarch or if it's congress putting new limitations on what i can and can't say fuck you i'm a grown ass man don't tell me what the fucking say i can use my critical thinking i'm more educated than you i'm more jack than you i'm more tan than you I have better fucking hair than you and I'll fucking put two in your head

from 100 meters out if I have to. Don't tell me what the fucking say. That's not a threat YouTube. That's just a general boastful attitude I have. It's broculture. Brian, thanks so much for coming and hanging out with us tonight. We have questions that might cut off.

There are a couple more. Let's see here. I'll just do quick answers for you. All right. All right. Keep going. There are a few. The stuff about soybeans,

this is the beauty or the horror of doing it live, is that we have these issues. That's as far back as I. I think these are the newer ones. The economy is good, but our goddamn soybean markets are gone. They're fucking gone, Brian. Brazil has drank our milkshake

in this soybean trade. I don't know. This is like what? These are like all my. my IG followers fucking flooding your guys his YouTube channel right now. What about the soybeans, B.K., Andrew wants to know.

What about, what's a soy? First of all, you shouldn't be eating soy. Soy is a fucking no-go. I mean, come on, guys. Reddrich, come on now. You try to emasculate yourself? Grow them tities? Fuck that. What do you think a giraffe sells for on the open market, Ian asks? It's got to be

fucking a million bucks. No, not even close. Yeah, it's like 30 6K, you can get a giraffe. The second half. What? You want a... You want a giraffe, Brian? I'll get you a giraffe. It's a used giraffe. I got a guy. I'll get you a giraffe. I'll get you a giraffe. It's a used giraffe.

I don't like a bear. I would like a bear. I've been saying that forever. I would like a pet bear. I've seen the videos from Russia where like dudes are like hanging out with bears. Very appealing to me. They're kind of there. They kind of cuddle with them. The big ones. I want the fucking big

ones, dude. The most... Like a Kodiak bear, yeah. The ones that stand up and are like eight feet. tall. Brad is going there. He says, would Sanders be a better pick to win the DNC? Well, no, because he's too... Bernie, Bernie is a, he sounds, everything, the thing is socialism sounds so appealing, right?

Don't worry about anything. We're going to fucking take care of you. We're going to give you everything you want. That's very comforting for a lot of people. I can see the appeal. I don't want to fucking live that way, you know? Bernie promises shit he can't deliver on. It's hard to get elected.

This is why nobody talks about cutting spending, right? Nobody gets elected by talking about shit they're going to take away or how much they're going to leave you alone. People get elected when they tell you how much shit they're going to give you and how much you'll get for free. That's the nature of politics. It's kind of sad. I don't want anything.

My political philosophy is free. I just want to be left the fuck alone and don't fuck me ass in taxes. Other than that, and don't tell me what to say. Andrew says no, Sanders would have been worse. And that's actually the end of our questions, man. All right, great. Damn, Brian, we went around the world on this podcast, man.

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I'm working on merch. I'm working on merch, by the way, for fucking the many people who keep asking me about that. I'm working on it. What are you working on the design? Yeah, well, I have a design of mine. I've actually been working with the guy. I've got a cool kind of design. I'm just going to do the hats and the t-shirts.

I mean, if nothing else, you'll have a design. that ass-looking t-shirt, even if you don't, like, really listen to the podcast. All right. I'll get one and I'll read the podcast. By the way, you guys, it drops. I record, I record every Saturday. Usually pops up about Saturday afternoon. Again, Spotify, iTunes, World News with BK. And Brian, two things real quick. What's your Twitter? If you want to follow you on Twitter. Yeah, so I'm at Twitter at Bravo Kilo Actual. I'm active on there throughout the week. And my Instagram is at BK Actual. Please follow me on there. Okay.

And obviously people can drop into your show at the latest episode. But is there an episode? Do you have like an epic or something that you would recommend? If you want to, if people want to know what you're all about. Well, you know what? I don't like, I don't really look backwards too much.

So I would say because it's a topical show, right? Sure. Every week is different. And I'm just like normal like everybody else, guys. Sometimes I'm, you know, hungover. Sometimes I'm sad. Sometimes I'm not in the mood. But I show up every week and try to do a good job.

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And by the way, you guys, I get tons of stories from listening. who DM me at BK Actual or Bravo QAQL Actual. I get a lot of stories that are off the beaten path that I'd never heard of. And thanks to my great listeners, you know, they're the ones sending me this stuff. So I love getting all your messages. And I also love getting the messages from all my guys in all over the world in the military and law enforcement agencies from Canada to Japan and everywhere in between. I really appreciate it.

Andrew said tell Brian he can find a bear. in certain bars. Oh, let me tell you something. A subculture reference. If I could pull chicks, like I'd pull gay men, I would have no problems.

Gay men fucking love me. What? What? Is, is it North Hillside? Uh, north, like above Balboa hospital. Oh, Hillcrest.

Hillcrest. Yes, Hillcrest is the, uh, is the homosexual section of town, which has a great restaurants and I enjoy going there very much. I get stared at quite a bit, you know. They take a look. I mean, it's striking, you guys.

You know, six, three, 200 pounds. The hair is just so quaffed to perfection. Yeah. I mean, the fucking, the abs are popping, the shoulders, you know, the double flex going on there. Yeah, gangs. I mean, the whole thing is a good package. Do you like the mesh T-shirts from International Mail? Oh, yeah, yeah.

I wear this medium fucking wife beater so I can show the shoulder veins coming across like that. It's pretty much, you know, the guys are soiling themselves right there. No hard enough out. Yeah. It's all good stuff. And we always knew that PJs were in competition with seals for best hair products, best accessories, and you're obviously waiting the battle. Yeah, I mean, you know, and hey, it doesn't get any easier, gents.

We got to fucking keep plucking, you know. Don't stop grooming because you're getting older. I mean, my God, you guys, you older gents in your 40s, your fucking ear hair, gent. You got to trim the ear hair, for Christ's sakes. I go out with dudes of the bar, and I'm like, I'm not fucking going anywhere with you until you fucking clean up all that shit on your ears, bro. Come on, trim it up. Why wouldn't you, though?

Isn't the halo effect or whatever's when the guy that you're running? No, it's not good. No, I got to have a wing man. I got to have them looking smooth like me. I can't go in there with, like, you know, Jack's got fucking hair coming out of his nose and shit, his ears. You know, I would have to pluck and groom Jack, you know, for about an hour before we could go out in Manhattan. I thought you wanted to go someplace with somebody significantly less attractive than you, though, because it elevates you. I thought Manhattan.

Isn't Manhattan filled with beautiful people? We got to get out there. I got to get out there. L.A. Manhattan, everybody's just working on the south of death. L.A. L.A. is another level. Depends on the scene, you. Dude, San Diego is nice.

but you go to L.A. And you go to like Santa Monica, just like out to eat or something. And like every fucking waitress in the place is just drop dead gorgeous. You're like, wow. And they're like, you know, serving you like coffee. It's a other level in L.A. for sure, because they're all obviously trying to get into business. You're talking about before Santa Monica got burnt down, right? Yeah.

Well, it's not that bad. No. It's a, but it's a, L.A. is great. I enjoy L.A. I know a lot of people hate it. All right. Brian, stick with us for a minute. Everyone, thank you so much again for joining us tonight. We will be back

next week with Mark Paramarapalopoulos, who is a veteran of the Central Intelligence Agency served like 28 years, almost a 30-year career, so we're really looking forward to talking to him. And we will see you then. So, thanks, everyone.

Thank you, Brian. Thank you. Thanks, brother. Thank you, Superman. Streams over. Brian, we'll go right into