The Team House - Army Special Mission Unit Operator Jason Beighley: Ep. 65

Episode Date: October 24, 2020

Jason Beighley is a retired Army Special Mission Unit operator. We discuss Jason's time in 2nd Ranger Battalion, going to selection, training for the unit, and deploying to Somalia for Operation Gothic Serpent. Get access to bonus segments with our guests: https://www.patreon.com/m/TheTeamHouse NEW! Team House merch: https://teespring.com/stores/my-store-10474963 Team House Discord: https://discord.gg/wHFHYM6 SubReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheTeamHouse/ Jack Murphy's memoir "Murphy's Law" can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/Murphys-Law-Journey-Investigative-Journalist/dp/1501191241 The Team Room Reading Room (Amazon Affiliate links): https://jackmurphywrites.com/the-team-room-reading-room/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support.

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with free support services to help them on their parenting journey. Everyone deserves someone they can turn to for help with parenting. Visit child and family resource network.org today. We're live. This is episode 64 with Jason Bailey. Jason is a retired Sergeant Major served in Ranger Battalion and an Army Special Mission Unit. And by the way, I'm Jack Murphy here with co-host Dave Park. This is the team house.

Same show as always. I do apologize if Jason's audio sounds a little spotty tonight. That's totally our fault. We're having some weird issue with that that Dave and I will figure out a little bit later on. But we improvised and we're rolling right into it. So here we are. And welcome to the show, Jason. Thank you.

I appreciate you guys having me. Yeah, absolutely. You know, I guess Dave, do you want to start? start off asking Jason about his origin story. That's kind of the tradition on the show. Yes, being that Jack and I are both comic book geeks, and every good hero has an origin story. And you are certainly one of our nation's hero.

So we would love to hear your origin story. Who were you growing up? What was your childhood like? And what led you to become a soldier in the first place? In ancient history, eventually a football team and the basketball team and the baseball team, and then sit on the bench for the whole season for all three of them. And so probably about late freshman year or so I started working.

Once I started working, I got with three jobs. I found out the senior. And then graduated high school and the two jobs that I had. One was in the day kind of working at a Christmas tree farm. They rolled out of Christmas trees up in the morning. And they laid me off because you harvested all the trees, you know, for the year by Thanksgiving. and then the supermarket job that I had in the evenings, they inspired me right after Christmas, I think.

Maybe it was 1984, I walked into the Reuters office and basically said, hey, I'm interested in going on me, I want to fly helicopters. There's a whole, another wrong story behind that, which is the old young man's silliness. And the Brewer said, I don't want to be gone as soon as possible because I don't want to have enough time to change in my mind and then try to get out of it. So, really weeks, infantry basic and, you know, down at Fort Benning. And so I had nobody meant for me an industry guy who said, it was a turner, and then his station in German and I thought, I know that'd be pretty full.

I never were in mid-grade NCOs. I ended up track vehicle in 1113 personnel carrier. I built that thing for a couple of years. And company commander, young kid, you know, realized that I had come to be challenged. And then I ended up driving his jeez. this jeep around, you know, doing different, I made a big return of forces of Germany. But I don't know that you can do it anymore. I've been a platoon week at Fort Lewis and since I grew up in Oregon, that seems

like it made sense to me because it was only about four hours away from one, you know, at this point probably 20. And that made that my goal and somehow with a terminated December of 1986, it was two and a half years there, I was going straight to four Knox, which is, um, absolutely, the center for Arndon have a fair shoot on the entire base of or not. I looked at my old escape from Airborne's bonus but I'm anywhere of 87 by April of 87 I've sent an information one morning and my first sergeant announces that we have four ranger school spots for the battalion

who wants to go and to see that mine was the only hand is the whole company that went in the head I'm not kidding you kind of solid by some places in the By sheer accident of the 87 to pass back over her and so by this time I go back to my unit maybe three months So by by October of 87 they send me six board to get from order and I passed that board and then And then my re-enlistment window came open and I talked to the re-enlistment guy since I was Everyone qualified and Rangers qualified He said well you can re-enlist for any station any duty station of choice that you want because you're you know on East, I'd seem to be E6

with the Victor skill identifier, right? For people who know what that means, the Army gives you an MLS, and there are people pretty much too big. I mean, we have a wide variety of guests, people who probably are 11 victors all the way to people who are, you know,

a 16-year-old in high school who has no idea. Yeah, so, no, it's good that you're explaining us. Yeah, so, you should have, they aren't now. Anyway, so since I had this little letter designator that the Army gives you if you're a airborne ranger, a qualified person, you're going to stand down. Now it's Rasp, too, but yeah, back in the day it was rope. The exact opposite of Victor Gerec was my boss at the time, and would not let me jump.

That's a whole other thing. So a couple things. So you went to Ranger Battalion the hard way. Like, no point in time did you ever have a contract at no point in time. Did you ever have a guarantee? you just kind of like rolled the dice a couple of times and managed to get yourself there. And this is before the information age where, you know, like everybody knows everything now, and you know who you can go online anywhere and find the steps you need to take

and what you need to talk to the recruiter about or things like that. I mean, this was a big, all this was kind of a mystery back, you know, you know, before the internet, before widespread computers and stuff like that. So, you know, you talk about, exactly. So you talk about going to Battalion as a promotable E5 with a Ranger tab. Now, for our viewers who don't know, in Ranger Battalion, because he talks about growing up there,

most people go to Ranger Battalion as a private, and then, you know, and then gain their ranks while they're there. When you go as an NCO, they call you an import, right? And it's doubly hard to prove your, I mean, you have to prove yourself twice as much. I mean, or did you find that, that you had to, you know, work twice as hard to prove yourself? Too, yeah. So what was it like when you landed in the unit in 1992, Jason? Because, I mean, that's just such an interesting period of time for American counterterrorism,

in the sense that I think a lot of people out there have this impression that, like, nothing was happening. But actually, you guys were pretty active. And it was, I don't know, I'll let you get, you tell us what you want to tell us about it. But I just think I find in a very interesting time period that like wait 1980s into the early 1990s. That's an issue facility. And I think I have two pieces of all of the work get like, one had to be a compass with a smudge on it or something. And it's mundane predictive of stuff. It's just like that the level of execution, attention to detail, the first act.

Is this the American Army? Yeah, that's what I'm saying to. Is this still the Army? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And so then, you know, over the next couple weeks, so then we get guns also, you know, static on church, what am I saying?

I mean, six years old, like that, 27 years old, like I was up to, you know, E7s at about 31, 32 years, right? And I should mention, you know, of course, that an E6, a staff sergeant in the unit is basically like a private, right? So to that point, the basic Repelling through skylights, yeah. Right, it was like, hey, here's what you're going to do. Writing down, you stuck, you're up ahead,

they screams at you and tries to smoke you and, you know, but what elevate your feet, the person's knowledge. I've been told also that, like, it's perfectly normal for guys to walk around the compound with their weapon, locked and cocked, or whatever term you want to use, you know, with one in the pipe and, you know, just walking around, and that's just how it is.

And I don't know if you want to comment on that, but I mean, it's just a, I think even by the time I went through like special forces training, like they kind of like had us do that also. It's like, hey, that's how it is overseas. Like you're not going to, like, put your gun in the arms room or anything. So a lot of it was going from, you know, the regular army. And I, and regular battalion has changed a lot over time. Like it's far more professionalized now that it was when I was in. Like they were really good at some stuff.

I don't want to say they weren't like awesome. But, you know, now they have opportunities within Ranger Battalion that they didn't have when I was there. And they treat them more like adults, I would say, than they did when I was in. And so when I say larger Army, even though you're at Ranger Battalion, that sort of included that at the time, where you're going from this system that almost infant to a lot, infantilizes. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if that's the right pronunciation.

But, you know, treats people like you're a risk or this is a risk or we need to hold your hand through everything to an organization that's like, hey, you're an adult. We're hiring you to be an adult. We're hiring you to make decisions. So we're going to treat you like an adult. Yeah. It's because I was somewhere. It's almost that they had to break some of the army. I'm off courts and I don't remember.

No, no, no, it's fine. But it's almost that they had to. it seems like they almost had to break some of the habits that the regular army had instilled, right? The whole sua sponte and, you know, take the initiative and do your thing, make your judgment. But that was really on you at this point where prior to that, you know, there was always somebody else that you were looking to, you know, give the execution. You say that because for me that I could never have. The only place that the two words Suisphonte, which for your listeners

who may not know, is supposedly it's roughly translated. It's like, what was that? I don't think that word. Yeah. These are fighting words. These are fighting words.

That's like it's also if you look at Ranger history, like also Robert Rogers is not exactly the patron saint of Rangers that some would make him out to be. But also, I digress. I mean, I'm not trying to start a civil war here or anything.

No, no, no. So I've done a lot of... There's actually also some dispute. There's a dispute about whether or not Robert Rogers ever wrote that stuff or ever used it even. Because the question is like some of the language, the verbiage he uses in it, you know, like don't forget nothing. Like someone who's educated is not going to write like that, you know? So, yeah, there's some questions. about the authenticity of it also.

Well, we just lost you on video, but we can hear you. I think I've got to... We got you. We hear you. I think I've got to go back and change my... Can you hear us? We hear you. We got you.

No, it's all good. Apparently my headphones just went dead on me. I'm sorry. That's okay. We can hear you fine. Okay. Yeah, yeah. No, I wonder, bring you...

The thing about Rodgers. Go ahead. No, no, go ahead. Finish your thought about Robert Rogers, then we'll roll into something else. Well, then we need you go back to Suisphonte. And then we'll roll. Please continue. Go back to what? Say that again?

After Rogers, back to Suisphonte. Right, so 70s got a hole in Robert's Rangers that copied him down for himself and all the previous copies got lost, and now we do this in this what we call. You get something that runs. Yeah. But it's a transfer. So by the same token, you know, the Suispherson is. The Fospente thing, if you, and I'm sure somebody will contact you, a lot of Latin stuff a few years ago.

This is where the regiment is, you know, really and truly, there's one place in the Army where the phrase Suissemente actually applies and it's there. Right. Right. Not, you know, I think to tick a lot of inulating the story about something and he was talking about how, he mentioned the fact that he had a guy who worked with years ago. And he was like, you know, I look at this guy and he's talking about something that happened. He said, I just looked at this guy and was like, hey, take care of this. And then he goes, I turned around and I went somewhere else and I did something else because I knew he was going to go take care of that and I didn't have to worry about it anymore. And it wasn't that until it solved.

Right. And that's kind of a few places, a couple pockets in the Army here and there. And some, the guys they work for and they built their relationship like this where it's like, hey, you know, I need you to go do this. Like you're Roger that boss, I got it, and you can you move out and you go make it happen. Because maybe five or six people have them. I think my short, there was, you know, a couple of real strong platoon sergeants, a strong first sergeant, not a strong company commander, you know, and some really solid squad leaders. And once all those guys rotated out of there, that will place hell apart.

Right. That company, you know, adjunct failures at everything they did, but it did not. Right. For a second. There was a hammering. Jason on the assault net. No, no, it's all good, man. Thank you.

I don't know what else we want to get into or what you'd be willing to get into, Jason. Would you be comfortable talking about some of the jobs you got after that and some of the places you went around the world in your military career? I'll let you decide. Jason, I mean, this is, you know,

we want to hear about your experiences and what you did, and so do the people who watch this show. And I hope you wouldn't feel, have any trepidation about it on that count at least. You know, we have people on here who are like Matt V. Saug in Vietnam, guys who are Marine Scout snipers in Vietnam. And, you know, like we're going to have a friend of mine who's a pararescue guy,

Brian, he's coming on next week. And I was talking to him on the phone yesterday. And he's like, man, I'm a little nervous about coming on your show because, like, you have all these, like, super serious guy, like hardcore guys on. It's like, no, man, like, we're having you on because I know you're a good guy. We want to talk to you. We want to hear your experiences. And I even know a guy who's a unit member who, if you hear his stories, it sounds like something out of a video game to me.

It's like, what? How did that happen? But he reads books about guys who served in the Vietnam War and the infantry. And it's like, man, could I do that? I don't know. You know, at the same time, we have, you know, very, you know, these guys from Vietnam or Maggie Saga, whatever, tell us, you know. How much they admire the younger guys. Yeah, I was like, oh, you know, your war was so much harder.

And it's like, that's not how anybody in our war is seasoned at it at all. You know, and then then we look at, you know, World War II. Like, I think that we all, and, you know, it's funny because you talked about the jump into Rio Hado, right, and how you didn't get your mustard stain. And for people who don't, you don't quite get it, because you haven't, you know, I think that people in soft are constantly, like, looking at themselves in comparing, ourselves to other people, like, whether it's in our unit or other units or something like that. You size everybody up.

Well, yeah. Could I beat that guy up in a fight? Yeah, but it's like, oh, you know, everything, whether you could be in so many contacts, you know, so many firefights, whatever, but if you don't have the mustard stain and other people have the mustard stain, you know, the combat jump, then it's like, well, shit, I don't have that. You know, like, it's, so, you know, I think that when people watch this, you know, when people watch this, like it's not a

comparative thing or what it's not a comparative thing. It's like, what's in your story? You were part of history and we want to know that history and our viewers and listeners want to know that history. And an aggregate, if you think about what Dave and I are trying to accomplish here,

it's not about any one show or any one interview. It's an aggregate. It adds up to all these people and all of their experiences from what, early 1960s to today. Right. Right. And I mean, if we look at like Pat O'Donnell and the historian, you know, and he's recording people all the way back from the OSS and all the way back to the special operators operations in the Revolutionary War. So, you know, you know, sort of in this special mission unit at a very specific time in history.

And we would love to know, you know, like what that was for you, what you experienced, what you learned, everything. And I know that we don't have time for everything. but you know like it's your history is as fascinating to us and to our viewers and listeners

as anybody else's I appreciate you saying that movie was grossly inaccurate in some ways or points in everything I spoke about myself and guys read 310 315 in the event

I guess you'd read the book and you go back through the logs it's probably all a matter of place and you know at this point it was just like We're being busted in this way down the street. So we go into this one room. Age male, maybe in his 50s.

And he's holding in his hands. He's holding up an 18-month-old, maybe a 2-year-old, up in front of his body. Back in the room. Weeks and months later, and I said, I think about every once in a while. I was like, you know, nobody in this country today would do that.

Right. No one. And I know would take an extended family member baby, you know, a granddaughter, a niece, and nephew of a niece, and that kid was male with him out of him. I don't care. Nobody would do that. I don't know personally, you guys don't know personally anybody who would do that. Right.

Nobody. And so that was a, some people want to talk about how terrible our culture is and how terrible our country is nowadays. It seems to be a pretty common theme. It's pretty easy for people to say those things when they're, you know, to steal a quote from one of my close friends, when they're banging on so heavy they can't even move it, you know, and they, because they don't have the right. viewpoint, they've never seen anything. They don't know what they're talking about. They're literally uneducated and they're eager.

Right. And so anyway, you know, you guys know a whole story of that whole thing. You know, the crash site, that was not Mike Duran, but the other one. That was a call. He's out of the street when we first got to the phone where we stopped and

we got those guys out of the street. You know, I'm just a nug, Pullman Security at this point. The sun started to go down in the direction I was facing and I had I had to check. Like I said before, I remember who I'd tell all this to, but I had to take my eye glasses, my eye protection off.

You know, the cardinal sin, you're not wearing eye probe in the army. I had to start literally right in my eyes. And my lenses were fogged up because it was Africa hot. And so, you know, we did that. We got inside, it got dark. I remember the Traudian pulse going over. And it was like, hey, you know,

how much longer were we going to be? team sergeant that was over there working back. And this went on maybe every 30 or 40 minutes for several hours. And finally, I want to say, 2,300, this, this interchange came over the radio again. And his tone of voice changed a little bit and he was a little bit more stir and he goes, heard the squash break and I was like, okay, so at least stop at a minimum. At least. I didn't have to have my team sergeant come to tell me that.

I didn't have to. I knew, it's like, okay, that's it, we're here. We're not going anywhere. And so the guy who wasn't technically my team sergeant, but he was for that, for that. He comes over, places where a guy was so, all that stuff that was both. He was just so, he was like, hey, here what we're doing with the, locate, get through security positions, here what we're doing, food, you're doing, that was, that was, that was, it was, you know, it was,

can you say who your team sergeant was, Jason? Say again? Can you say who your team sergeant was on that mission? No, I can't. Okay. can't. No, I don't know. Yeah, I wonder if you're someone who's public, you know, some of them are someone. Well, the guy that I technically worked for, if I told you his name, you would know, you would recognize the name, probably. The other guy that I was attached to, I'm not going to stay.

Okay, right on. Sure. I don't think you would agree with that. Sure. So what, what happened that night for you, for your team and for you personally, like, um, what? What? What? What? Was it just a very calm and peaceful evening out there flapping? No, no. It was, you know, so if you imagine, right, you take everything that all the Rangers experience, you take everything that all of our guys experience and all the guys in the Rangers and our guys that were in one location,

all of those same people that were in the convoy going back and forth, and you could try and convince that into a 90-minute film. Right. In the film, it's non-stop. you know, literally non-stop for whatever it was, 90 minutes, two hours, I don't know. And that, it wasn't like that for me where I sat. You know, I remember when it's going, right, those guys should describe you how it was. The work phenomenal was not sufficient.

They actually brought in, they brought us in a resupply to the place where we were at, 18 feet off the deck when he cut that bundle loose, dropped on the ground. And I don't know to this day how he did that. I got in and helped I couldn't see it. Yeah. Jason, you know, you said that you were the nug, you know, the new guy and whatnot. And I think it's an interesting concept, the idea of somebody feeling like a nug at that level in a special mission. Yeah, yeah.

Right. The amount of training, millions of dollars of training pumped into you at that point. Right. And was this your first, like, you know, your first encounter? while since you had been in the army. So you are the best of the best, the cream of the crop. How did that feel for you compared to how you had been in a mech infantry unit, compared to how you think it would have felt in a mech infantry unit?

Do you think it would have been the same, that initial kind of, or do you feel, yeah, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but please. We could, and we'll do it again sometime if you're willing, But thank you. The same story that the kids under those who came to Not at all. I think that's kind of a healthy way to look at it, you know, that you have, there's much more to who you are as a person, your husband, and everything else in life, and other great things you did in your career. You know, I've been told in the past that that firefight was so traumatic for some people that Ranger Battalion and the unit both, they, like in training,

afterwards they retrained on that scenario over and over and over again like refighting the battle of Mungadishu when it's like you know hey guys like the next fire fight it's not going to be like that yeah there's something else coming after this yeah point is valid but there also were a number of tactics that we adapted that we changed and adapted and got better at significantly after that happened when I got the Ranger Battalion I mean they were still talking about the lessons ordered like for example take your nods on every mission why would you not take them what's wrong with you you know things like that that absolutely came through it

right right so jason before i'm moving a little bit here i'm sorry yeah not a problem and for those you don't know uh jason agree i mean it has been a godsend and he's joining us from a hotel and from like uh from the from a public area yeah he's been very patient yeah so uh yeah so uh we have a couple of questions that we need to get to the people who have donated to ask questions we really want to make sure we we address them before we let you go thank you very much Chris orness Chris he said favorite unit time primary build secondary building sniper rifle bill I guess it's talking about favorite weapons yeah I think your yeah your favorite did you have did you have a preferred like build out on your weapons or was that

something that that you guys had control over? Answer is no things maybe like a sling or a flashlight or you know something Basically if you want to do something that is gonna run on the internal parts The important thing is that you know you squeeze the trigger and it goes bad at a certain kind of Oh my certain kind of pressure it's like no we we got all that stuff Yeah yeah not and not at the operator level and were you were you sniper trained? Were you sniper trained? No I would not know I never never never was okay all right all right let's get Alejandro thank you very much buddy

oh he said I remember seeing a movie as a kid does the unit really have motorcycles that fire rockets and integral machine guns I think that was Megaforos wasn't it? That was Chuck Norris and no we do not okay damn it so Megaforce was the one with a flying motorist so I'm just saying thank you very much

Andrew Andrew said on our unrelated note how much would you guess Jason that it cost to buy a a giraffe on the free market. And any guess will do. This is from an old show. How much it cost to buy a

what? A giraffe. A giraffe on the free market. This is a deep cut. Say again? I think that's one of those things that if you have to ask, you can't afford it. I think you're right, Jason. And I think that is it. We don't want to keep you too long because we know you're

on real time. Yeah, Jason, I apologize for some of the audience. issues we had today. Totally my fault. But I really appreciate you taking the time to spend, you know, an hour and a half with us here tonight. And I hope we can do it again another time. Have things planned out a little bit better for all parties concerned. I always enjoy these conversations.

Yeah, you got work to do, Jason. Thank you so much. Yeah, we would love to you. Thank you so much for your time. We really appreciate it. I like myself. I appreciate it. And thanks everybody out there who have to have a different time to love.

it means a lot. Absolutely. We'll do it again sometime. And Jason, if you need to sign out, feel free to take off now. Yeah. Take care. Take care. Have a nice night. Take care.

Yeah, bye-bye. So, hey, for everyone who joined us tonight, oh my God, look at that. That's crazy. Dave, take it. Yeah. Thank you very much for everybody who joined tonight. We have a couple of things real quick. We want to do a shout-out.

If you guys are a place. political at all, and it doesn't matter if you're left or right, because this is a nonpartisan issue, if you want to write or call your senator and have them kind of push, is that House Resolution? Yeah. H.R. 8276, and what this is, is this is for Alwyn Cash, for those of you don't know, ALW-Y-N-C-A-S-H-E. Alwyn passed in 2005. He won the Silver Star with.

through his actions, I believe it was a Bradley, his Bradley caught on fire. He was the only person not incapacitated and he pulled, I think, nine soldiers out and I think the last two. Going into the flames, yeah. And the last two, he was on fire while he was doing it. He was put in for a silver star. Please read his story because, and read about the man that he, that he was. because he was an amazing human being you know it's

the story I think for so many people epitomizes the whole concept of self-o-service self-sacrifice that he went into this burning vehicle over and over again to pull his soldiers out and under fire

what was that quote before he died he told someone that you know I had to do it because my soul was saved but I don't know about theirs He was a very strong Christian, apparently. And that story just resonated with soldiers, you know, kind of at the boots on the ground level for so many years, but, you know, Mr. Cash has not been awarded the Medal of Honor.

Correct. And if that is, from my understanding, it's not through any fault of his chain of command. It's that nobody really knew what happened because everybody involved was incapacitated at some point. His commander put him in for a silver star. then when the story, when the men involved were actually like kind of able to talk about it and whatnot. The commander, you know, supported the idea of change it to a metal honor,

but by that time because of the way the military works, it was too late. It has to be done by, you know, by a congressional approval. And now we are five years past the event, so it takes an act of Congress to get involved and get that process going again. and it has passed the House. It is on the Senate floor. It was supposed to be voted on, I believe, today. And it's been pushed because of the Barrett confirmation. Okay.

So this is what the Senate is saying. So, but please reach out to, you know, and again, this is a nonpartisan issue. We just, if you have an interest, please reach out to. out to your representatives in the Senate and urge them to you know to focus on this and and to get it done his family deserves it he deserves it I yeah absolutely no it's a great cause and you know I have nothing to do I can't say you deserves a Medal of Honor who doesn't but reading his story reading the citation on the Silver Star I mean she should certainly be considered yeah

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friends of mine who are in the military, and then they were volunteers at the Peshmerga, and they You also have the hoodie. Yeah, I'll show you the hoodie real quick, too. I got this stuff in the other day. See my new hoodie here. They're good friends of mine. They'll probably be guests on this podcast at some point.

I just want to give them a shout out of what they're doing. And I mean, there's some really funny T-shirts they have on there. So check them out. And next week, B.K. is going to be on the show. Brian is our former PJ. Paral Rescue guy. A very opinionated young man. So I timed him just right before the election.

So we are pretty apolitical on the show. We don't talk about presidential politics and all that kind of jazz. We kind of stay in our wheelhouse. But I have to warn everyone next week, it's no holds barred. It's going to be ugly. It's going to be like mud wrestling. I don't know what, you know, it's going to be bare-knuckle brawl. I posted the picture to Brian already of the two UFC fighters where they're like, you know,

pre-game in it and they're like nose to nose with each other. And they both have huge erections. There's nothing wrong with that. They're touching their tips. Do they do you wonder us on anywhere other than military towns? I don't know, brother. Yeah, I don't know. So, yeah, next episode, it is a bit of a departure from our normal, you know, our normal segment.

But we will also talk about power rescue because we have not had a PJ on the side. far and their training is very arduous. I mean, you know, academically speaking, I mean, physically their Air Force. Oh, yeah. No. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. They're very, you know, super highly trained medics. So, no, I'm really happy to have Brian on. I've known him for a long time, you know, a really good guy, as much of a troll as he is. But we'll get into all of it next episode. And guys, again, I apologize that we had some audio issues with Jason today. He's a really good guy, really good cat, and

we'll have him on again, and in the meantime we'll try to get some of this stuff ironed out. So thank you, everyone, for spending some time with us tonight, and we'll see you next Friday. That's freaking me out, too. All right, see you guys next time. Buy our stuff. All right, that's it. We're out. That was great,