The Team House - Israel Bombs Syria & Was Epstein a Mossad Agent? | EYES ON GEOPOLITICS
Episode Date: July 17, 2025In this episode, Dee and Jack discuss various geopolitical issues, focusing on Israel's recent military actions in Syria and the implications for US foreign policy. They explore the complexities of th...e Middle East, the potential for global conflict, and the ongoing situation in Ukraine. The conversation also touches on the political landscape in the US, including the Epstein case and its impact on current events.Follow our Newsletter!https://teamhousepodcast.kit.com/https://theteamhousepodcast.com/Find Jack here:https://thehighside.substack.com/Support the show on Patreon:⬇️https://www.patreon.com/TheTeamHouseNew merch, patches, and stickers! ⬇️https://theteamhouse-shop.fourthwall.comFind Mick Mulroy here: Fogbow ⬇️https://fogbow.com/Lobo Institute ⬇️https://www.loboinstitute.org/Twitter ⬇️https://x.com/mickmulroy?s=21&t=-Ze3F_Ix2vlJ18KFvORTCALinkedIn ⬇️https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-patrick-mulroy-31198b52/Bluesky ⬇️https://bsky.app/profile/mickmulroy.bsky.socialMick’s publications ⬇️https://www.loboinstitute.org/publications/publications-of-michael-mick-patrick-mulroy/Find Andy Milburn here: Twitter ⬇️https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Fandymilburn8LinkedIn ⬇️https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewmilburn2023Substack ⬇️https://amilburn.substack.com/Andy’s book ⬇️https://www.amazon.com/When-Tempest-Gathers-Mogadishu-OperationsBluesky ⬇️https://bsky.app/profile/andy-milburn.bsky.socialFind Jason Lyons here: LinkedIn ⬇️https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-lyons-666873316?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_appBluesky ⬇️https://bsky.app/profile/bgsilverback73.bsky.social00:00 Start and Overview of Current Events02:09 Israel Bombs Syria and Political Implications09:04 US Foreign Policy and Its Challenges17:41 Global Conflict and the New World Order21:37 Geopolitical Dynamics and Arms Deals23:57 Stalemate in Ukraine: Future Speculations26:11 The Epstein Files: Conspiracy Theories and Speculations30:13 Political Personalities and Public Perception34:49 Investigating the Unknown: CIA and Afghanistan37:47 Upcoming Projects and Future EndeavorsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support.
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We are definitely at this like interesting crossroads.
I mean, I don't like to like sound alarmist, but I mean, it's, it is clear that, you know, the old international order has collapsed at this point.
It no longer exists.
And something new is going to come out of the ashes, a recalibration of world order.
But what does that look like?
Does it look like a multipolar world?
You know, where America's role is different.
And of course, that recalibration typically happens.
after a real global conflict.
And so that's the question I have is,
are we sleepwalking into the next real global war?
Like, real slug match.
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I should have been a broadcaster
I think anyway
a lot cooking
as usual
just before we got on about an hour
an hour and a half before we got on
Israel started bombing
Syria and Damascus they hit the Ministry of Defense
a few times it's hit the presidential palace to oh i'm going to editorialize just you know
israel undermining u.s. Middle east policy once again it feels like yeah i mean Israel
unfortunately is kind of on the path of violating all the norms of international order the way that
russia has um trying to fight this war out in all directions um so this is just happening now um i
just saw some of the footage, actually a traffic circle in the center of Damascus that I've
been through myself getting blown up. It's pretty wild. The reason that Israel is given for this
is that they're trying to protect the Druze community, which is a religious minority in Syria.
I think that's a hard claim to make when you've proven that as a country, you really don't
give a shit about minority groups at all.
So I think there's a more political reason for attacking Syria, especially now that the
Assad regime is out and they're doing this.
The issue at hand, too, is also, I mean, the Golan Heights are still a hot issue.
And the question is, are they attempting to set up the prelude to an annexation, to expand
their territory some more?
you would think Israel, of course, has its hands full.
This whole Gaza thing that they haven't been able to get under control over years,
even though they've pretty much leveled the place.
And they're also fighting with, you know, Hezbollah and Lebanon and the Iranians.
It would seem that you're pretty busy that as a small country in the Middle East,
you kind of have your hands full.
So the logic of going after Syria is,
it only makes sense in a very cynical political context in my opinion.
Yeah.
I mean, and yesterday, or not even yesterday,
it was like the middle of the night, Eastern time.
I guess Netanyahu had some kind of like court date or something going on,
and he told the court for his corruption charges,
he told the court that he got like some pressing national security concerns.
He was trying to, I guess, trying to delay it or whatever or do whatever he can,
and then, you know, cut to six hours later,
they're bombing the shit out of Syria.
This is, you know,
this is something that Putin and Netanyahu have in common,
that they are both trying to drag out these wars
as long as possible for their own cynical, political reasons.
It's a height of cynicism to do so,
to sacrifice soldiers when there's no strategic purpose
that you're just doing it,
so that you can stay in office
and maintain your own personal political power.
Yeah, uh, yeah,
it's brutal to,
fucking watch to be honest.
Also, a day ago yesterday, there, you know, there was a big, a bunch of reports about
the ultra-Orthodox bouncing out of Netanyahu's coalition, which puts his government
at risk and stuff like that.
So I am sure he is working whatever he needs to work in terms of lobbying and whatever
it is to stop that, right?
Because like him getting out of office means he's going to have to.
you know,
deal with the charges that he's got to deal with.
I'm not super familiar with internal Israeli politics, of course,
but I do know that they have some pretty profound demographic issues
with the ultra-Orthodox.
And I've even spoken to Israelis in the past who fear that it'll lead to the collapse
of the Israeli state.
I don't know if that's true.
But there's certainly tension there.
Yeah.
And I think the prevailing tension is the fact that they don't serve.
have an exemption of serving.
So, yeah, well, obviously, keep looking at this because it's like, it almost feels like,
you know, a couple weeks goes by and, like, Israel gets a little itchy.
They just bomb another country.
And I'm not saying, uh, Jalani or Alshara, whatever you want to call them is like a good
guy and stuff like that.
But the fact is last week, two weeks ago, the U.S. took HTS off of the terror list, right?
So, like, whether you agree with that or not, I don't really agree with it.
but it's like the U.S. is clearly sending signals that we are interested in at least legitimizing this country and this administration or regime.
And, you know, Asia just goes and like bombs the shit out of it.
And like you mentioned, they're supposedly doing this because of the Jews population being like, you know, fucked with.
And they're fighting with like, I don't know if it's HTS proper or Alshara's regime proper, but it's element.
within it and stuff like that.
I also saw another thing from Charles Lister,
the Middle East Institute guy who's like plugged into Syria
saying that like the Israeli move or like their goal ever since,
you know,
Alshara took over is light, quote unquote,
light regime change.
That's what they've been lobbying DC for.
Obviously, it's clear they're, you know,
motives are kind of clear now.
It's one of these like, what is light regime change?
It's like, you know, arrested development.
You remember he's, I may have committed light treason.
What does that mean exactly?
I feel like that's pretty binary, right?
Like what?
It's either regime change or you don't want regime change.
Yeah, I don't know where this goes.
Supposedly they're gearing up for multiple days of this.
They also move two divisions to the north.
just on the Syria-Israel border.
So you might be right about them, like, you know,
moving on the Golan Heights and stuff like that
or trying to secure it.
What's funny is it really seemed like
Al-Shara's new government
was kind of trying to do whatever it could to, like,
not normalize, but at least, like, make a deal with Israel
and stuff like that.
Like, they seem pretty, obviously,
because they have no, really,
they have no, like, to stand them.
They have no weapons or anything like that,
nothing that would really threaten Israel.
But they seem to have been trying to, like, play nice with Israel.
Yeah, they've been trying to legitimize themselves.
And, like, you know, they went from this rag-tag terrorist organization, which they
still are, in my opinion.
But they, as you point out, they have been trying to legitimize themselves as, hey, we
are an actual government now.
Yeah.
What do you think happens next, like, in the next couple days and weeks?
short term um i mean just more of the same really um Israel has struck Syria numerous times in the past
I don't think hTS as you point out really has a lot of capability um to strike back at Israel um I'm
like I said I'm I'm interested to see if Israel actually makes a land grab of Syrian territory
um during this moment that's what I would be keeping an eye out for yeah and uh the US special envoy
Tom Barack respond uh and the and broadly the entire like u.s.
I guess administration is saying for is calling for Israel to uh pull back and like calm down
and you know quiet tensions and stuff like that which is interesting it's like it's crazy
like they undermine every kind of like any kind of like U.S. policy we might be trying to work
they undermine it at every fucking step possible.
Yeah, it is interesting. I mean, our current, you know, the Trump administration seems like they're very much interested in like, let's make a deal.
You know, he wants to make a deal with everybody and be a deal maker. I don't think that Trump wakes up in the morning and it's like, hey, let's bomb this country, let's bomb that country.
I think his primary thought process is let's make deals, what's iron these things out.
And that would look good for him too as president.
Of course, that's a feather in his hat, especially if you can negotiate peace in the Middle East.
Oh, my God.
But what President Trump is encountering is that there's a lot of snakes in the grass.
You're dealing with people like HTS, Vladimir Putin, B.B. Netanyahu, people who are cynical, duplicitous.
and they're not interested in your deal making because they have their own prerogatives.
It's real interesting.
Like, you know, he thinks like, oh, yeah, one meeting.
Like, he'll get in the room and slap some backs and make some jokes and, like, we can make a deal.
It's a very American thing, right?
It's like a handshake and we're doing millions of dollars of business, done deal.
Let's do it.
Yeah, well, good.
Like, we're all making money.
So, like, why is there beef?
It's like a real kind of, like, mob mentality kind of.
It's like, oh, why have war?
Like, war is bad for business.
business really you know what I mean like if right and obviously it's like Syria is like a fucking
complicated Syria just as an example is like the most complicated fucking place like almost ever right
like you look from the civil war on like it's just like changing loyalty it's just a fucking
smorgas board that you need like a a fucking doctorate degree to to understand and the larger
you know maybe take away for us as America
that we have to understand is that, you know, as much as we want to make a deal, the realities
and other parts of these countries, other parts of the world are very different than ours.
And that this is why you can't run government like a business, because a corporation or a
business that is responsive to customers and capital is in so many ways fundamentally different
than a government, whether it's a democracy or not a very good democracy and some other
part of the world.
The point you bring up with Israel and Palestine is that you have some things that are
indivisible.
You cannot just carve this land in half and be like half goes to Israel, half goes to the Muslims
or the Arab pop, you know, Palestinian population.
It's not, it's not that simple.
It's not like in business where it's like a win, win, win, like everyone gets a little
slice of the pie.
You know, you can't like carve up Ukraine into little pieces and like, oh, Putin gets a piece
of this.
Zelinsky gets a piece of that.
Like, people are like, no.
No.
I want my country back or I want this entire
country to be part of my country.
They're not willing to compromise.
Yeah, it's just, it's crazy, bro.
It takes like, it's like painstaking, obviously,
to make a fucking deal that makes sense, right?
Like, it takes months, if not years,
rather than just like a couple weeks and like a 180 change
and like policy too, which is.
Yeah.
I mean, we're very incoherent as a country.
And I mean, you can look at this, you know, this current administration, but also just
administration to administration.
I mean, every 48 years, right.
There's some drastic shift.
And how do you run a effective policy, foreign policy, in countries that have long memories?
You know, I've been to Syria a few times.
And people there will talk about the Sykes-P. Co. Agreement as if it happened yesterday.
or reality that was like a hundred years ago.
But for them, it was yesterday.
And I bet, you know, when you go back home, it's similar in Greece.
When you talk to people about certain topics, it's like it's right there.
It's front center.
It's very emotional.
And as Americans, we have a hard time understanding that sometimes that politics for us is oftentimes a source of entertainment.
Sure.
But in other parts of the world, it's this life and death thing that you have to be engaged.
aged in because you're surrounded by enemies all the time.
Yeah.
Yeah, just for any, I mean, not even anecdotally.
I went to a Greek parochial school until eighth grade to high school.
And we would go marching the Greek Independence Day parade in New York.
And like we would change stuff like Exo and Turki Apote, Kippro, which means get the Turks out of Cyprus.
And this is like I was in eighth grade 20 years ago or 25 years ago.
So it wasn't like the 70s when it happened.
And the other one was for Macedonia.
Like, and Macedonia, and nemia,
and mea, and that's Paramini and Pada Lini.
And I remember this.
This is fucking, I haven't said that in like 30 years or whatever.
Constantinople was Greece.
Well, that don't, yeah, don't get me started with that.
It will be it for another fucking hour.
I'm just kidding, because I'm in New York.
I'm American.
I understand, like, beef, like the problem that Greeks have with the Turks and stuff.
And, like, the Macedonia thing, there's only one Macedonia.
Like, that's basically, and it's always going to be Greek.
That's the chant.
And you have like fucking 11 year olds chanting this shit, right?
Like that's what it is.
When you're going down the street on 6th Avenue,
where the fuck the parade's at in New York.
So yeah, it's deeply, deeply fucking embedded in like Greeks and especially even Greek Americans, right?
Like I was born here.
I wasn't like, I didn't come from Greece.
So it's just, you're right.
Like it's so deeply embedded.
Like here too, it's like politics is fucking a reality show.
Yeah, you can engage with it or not engage with it as a Jews.
All right.
So a bit of breaking news statement from the Jews community announcing a ceasefire in Soweda and its full integration into Syria.
So, you know, people are saying maybe this will stop the Israelis.
If I had a bet, I would say no.
I would say no.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, they probably have a surplus of bombs that they didn't.
using Iran so they got to use this before they get a restock from the U.S.
For they buy new ones from us?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just, again, not to harp on it, but like, how many fucking wars and stuff
or like conflicts can you really sustain as Israel?
And as the United States, because we're in it too in so many ways.
And, you know, my issue, I guess, well, I have a lot of issues and a lot of opinions, I
suppose. But I mean, the one here to point out is that there's no clear bottom to this conflict.
Like, you know, tell me how this ends. Where are you going with this? What's the end game?
And I have not seen anyone articulate one. I mean, is there like a dream of a greater Israel?
You know, that's twice the size it is today. I mean, I don't know. I haven't heard anyone say that.
But I mean, my question is like, how does this conflict come to a close?
since October 7, the United States government has tried to contain the conflict to Gaza,
I think that we can safely say at this point that that failed.
You know, we've, I mean, I guess I'd give us a C on that one.
I mean, we stopped it from turning into a global conflagration.
But the conflict is clearly expanded.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, and, you know, for 55 or so days, we were bombing the tits out of the Houthis, right?
Yeah, we're bombing.
coming Iran.
Right.
You got North Koreans fighting in Ukraine.
I mean, this is a global conflict.
And I mean, I am deliberately attaching the two.
They're not directly associated with one another.
But when you take these conflicts in their totality, are we in the middle of a global war right now?
And I think we are.
Yeah.
I heard or saw, I think, I don't remember what, who brought it up.
But it was either like, what do we want?
We want World War III or we want Cold War 2.0.
And it really does feel like we're Cold War 2.0.
Like through proxies and stuff like that.
Like it really feels like it's spitting up.
And it's just the perfect time to fire like 2,000 to 3,000 State Department employees, I feel like.
We are definitely at this like interesting crossroads.
I mean, I don't like to like sound alarmist.
But I mean, it's it is clear that, you know, the old international.
order has collapsed at this point. It no longer exists. And something new is going to come out of
the ashes, a recalibration of world order. But what does that look like? Does it look like a
multipolar world, you know, where America's role is different? And of course, that recalibration
typically happens after a real global conflict. And so that's the question I have is, are, you know,
are we sleepwalking into the next real global war, like real slug match?
Yeah, which, I mean, I think clearly it would be China.
And what's funny is like no, some people do, but they don't really talk about where,
because this all shit is, all this shit is connected.
China is obviously probably secretly helping Russia covertly for sure.
Also, they see how we act towards Ukraine, barring this last.
day or two when the new $10 billion
orange deal was
was announced and stuff
is like we're fucking you know
behind the April and we're honestly behind it
we were behind it
in the Biden administration too worried about
like the escalation and stuff like that
whether it was F-16s and Tacom's whatever
high Mars
they see that when it comes to
Taiwan yeah right and the Taiwan
thing like
they're not connected to anybody right
they're not connected to greater Europe where like
arms would be easy to get in there if like China really went and pushed it.
So they're clearly taking notes off this and seeing how a Trump administration or the
next, whoever else is coming after would react to that.
Taiwan is also facing some of its own internal political issues with the KMT right now,
from what I understand.
But what's going on there?
Can you give me a little like, because I don't know.
Just issues with them siding or aligning themselves too closely with China.
for some people's comfort.
The thing, though, in the context of this conversation,
as far as all of the countries that are like,
I think would be receptive to the let's make a deal type approach,
it would be China.
I think that, you know, despite the saber rattling that we both do,
I think China is the most in the camp of like, hey,
you know, war is bad for business, bro.
Yeah.
You know, let's not do that.
Um, you know, they'll fight if we, if we want to fight them.
But I don't sense that they are like in the sense that like the Israelis and the Russians are like, hey, let's see how we can make this even worse.
Right.
I don't, I don't sense that type of recklessness from the Chinese.
Um, I think they're a little bit smarter about about this stuff.
Um, but I mean, yeah, I mean, how it's going to go with like the tariffs on China and stuff.
I mean, that all remains to be seen.
Yeah.
And it's interesting too.
So like moving, let's move to like now more broader Ukraine and the, I think it was $10 billion arms deal.
The secretary general of NATO, Ruta, was at the White House the other day kissing Trump's ass even more than he was over those text messages, which were fucking brutal.
It's like me texting my ex to like have her back.
Like, babe, I'm sorry, come back.
Please.
That's like embarrassing.
That's how I text Kim Jong-un when I'm in a North Korean prison.
Right.
Exactly.
Your leader, your blessed highness.
Yeah.
Hell Jack would like to see the sunlight one day.
And it's a great, it's an interesting fucking, it's a mind fuck if you think, you know,
two weeks ago, Hexeth unilaterally paused shipments that were ready,
already in Poland.
And now all of a sudden we're talking about a new arms deal worth,
and everyone's celebrating it.
And it did be, it was reported that Hexeth did it unilaterally.
which is fucking mental.
Like, that's not, that's pretty unprecedented in terms of, uh,
secretary of defense's moves, especially for something this big, right?
Like, just stop it.
Send it back.
It's already fucking in Poland.
It's like the last mile of a delivery.
Um, and now we're like best friends and we've given Russia 50 days for like snap or
whatever it was sanctions or tariffs or whatever they want to call it, which I feel like
it's still just kicking the can down the road.
You know what I mean?
It's like, my assumption is the Trump administration.
their PR people are like more like let's kick the can down the road and 50 days people will forget
and we'll be out of the new cycle you know what I mean like it's that's that's the vibe
yeah I don't think this conflict is going to go away it's not something you can ignore and it's
just going to disappear yeah and uh even Mick said it mixed it too it's like it's clear that
Ukrainians aren't going to stop fighting like with or without I mean they obviously want
to support but with or without it they're going to keep fucking going
understandably so, right?
I like asking questions of like, where do you think it's going to go?
I like a bit of speculation, right?
But it's like you can't even, like, where do you think this goes in the next 50 days?
I don't think it really goes anywhere.
I think that, you know, they're at a type of stalemate in Ukraine.
I don't see any big changes there.
Yeah.
Do you think they eventually, if like, because it does seem, you know, Putin's not,
playing ball with a ceasefire or anything like that.
50 days comes and goes.
Do we actually tariff them or sanction them or whatever they want to call it?
Do we actually pull through with that?
Because it seems like Trump has been getting more and more annoyed with Putin and stuff like that
because like they're just full of shit the Russians.
Like you can't trust the word they fucking say.
Surprise.
Yeah.
Like it's right.
It's like a shocker.
Yeah.
I just, it's crazy.
And for anybody to like any kind of.
geopolitical person to try and guess or estimate where this goes.
It's like every week is a change in policy.
Every week.
Yeah.
I mean,
personally,
I expect throughout the rest of this administration for tariffs to be turned on and off.
You know,
and that's part of like the game show politics.
But it's also,
I think the president feels that it's this tool.
It's this mechanism he can use to extort what he wants out of people.
I'm not sure that that's true.
You know, it doesn't seem like it's having that great an effect.
I mean, remains to be seen, but...
Yeah, we were told, like, oh, yeah, 90 deals and 90 days.
I think we have, like, maybe one or two deals.
Like, it's absolute nonsense.
Especially using it as, like, because how much can you fucking use it as a negotiating ploy
until it becomes completely useless, right?
until it becomes like, all right.
And also world leaders see that they can just run out the clock, right?
Like this guy's only here for, what, three more years,
three years and some change?
Yeah.
We can eat some tariffs and, you know,
things will be completely different with the next presidency.
Yeah.
Epstein, is he a Mossade agent or what?
I mean, there's speculation about that.
I've speculated about it, too.
sometimes I wonder.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The Epstein list is obviously in the news.
I do have my own conspiracy theories about like, oh, what's why this, why all of a sudden we're giving $10 billion to Ukraine and stuff like that.
I feel like it's a move to change the story.
Sure.
Yeah.
Or at least an attempt to it because it doesn't seem to be working because the Epstein stuff still is hanging around.
I mean, I'll just go ahead and say it.
you know, that press conference when, you know, the administration decided that they're not going to release the Epstein files.
And then there's that press conference that day where the president was asked by a reporter about them.
And the way he freaked out about it, said, why are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein, that whole conversation?
And then some of the social media posts that he made afterwards, just like ranting and raving in all directions, to me, that looks like someone who's just scared shitless.
Right.
Who's all over that.
I completely agree with you.
I mean, there's only one reason why you would, or why the president would not want to release
the Epstein files.
And that's because there is one name in it, one name, one person specifically in
those files.
I mean, the only other reason is that you're trying to cover for a group of pedophiles,
right?
I mean, why else would you do it?
There are no good reasons, correct?
Yeah, there are no good reasons.
Right.
And like, sure, you want to protect victims and stuff like that.
But let's be honest.
Like if you're on the Epstein list, do you really give a fuck about victims?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, as far as the people who are the criminals, I mean, fuck them.
But the victims, yeah, you do want to protect the victims as much as you can.
And look, I've foiled court transcripts before.
And they will black out the names of victims, you know, to protect them.
And if they release the Epstein.
files with the names of victims blacked out, the American public would understand that.
No one would be like upset.
Like, oh, that's a victim.
That was like an underage girl.
We understand why you're trying to protect that person.
And John Q Public, you know, people like me and you, I don't think we really care to know who the victims are by name.
You know, that's not what's important.
The important thing is that we know who the criminals are by name and that they're brought to justice.
Yeah.
I think he just posted something just now.
maybe 10 or 15 minutes ago as of like 11 a.m.
saying how it's a democratic hoax and Obama and Biden and John Brennan.
He's saying the Epstein file was written by Obama and Comey.
He sounds scared.
The dude sounds so scared.
Like what's in that file, bro?
Yeah. It's crazy.
It makes me like my suspicion go from like a five or a six to like an eight or a nine.
It's like clear as day that he.
is, I mean, in it.
He also, in that
past, I'm not going to read the whole thing because it's
absolute, like, ranting and raving, but I'll
give you the basic measles sin of it.
It's like the
51 intelligence
officers about the Biden laptop
paper thing, the newspapers ad.
And then it's the John Brennan,
Obama, Hulk, Democratic hoax,
and we're going to put out everything
all the credible information.
That's the new talking point of the
Epstein Files. It's like, bro,
shit or get off the pot, dude.
Stop talk.
Look over here.
Well, look over here.
It's insane.
Because, you know, people build Trump as this like PR mastermind.
And I would say he is a marketing genius and stuff like that.
But in terms of like damage control, he's very, he's not good at that.
And this is clear, more clear and clear it day goes by that it's, he's, he's really struggling.
Yeah.
To change the story.
You know, obviously we've all seen the footage of Epstein and Trump at Mara Lago, partying it up.
You know, Epstein described Trump at one point as his closest or one of his closest friends for 10 years.
Yeah.
They were tight.
And from what I recall, they kind of had a breakup, so to speak, because they both bid on some property down in Florida.
they got it
loggerheads over that.
But I mean, from what I've read,
Trump is on the flight logs.
I mean, yeah.
Yeah.
Who knows what else is in that file?
Yeah, and there was some reporter.
I don't know if it was New York Times, New Yorker.
They had like a bunch of interviews with Epstein.
I think it was 2017.
And it really seemed like Epstein had an intimate knowledge
of what was going on during Trump 1.0.
So, and that's, I think, where he mentioned that they were, like, the very good friends for, like, the better part of 10 years and stuff.
It's intense.
It's a while to watch, like, the social media landscape go kind of wild, where it's, like, you have these, like, fire breathers that are usually, like, fucking any kind of story having to do with a left politician, they'll, you know, do whatever they can to amplify.
Now, you have guys who are like, I trust the people in the administration and stuff like that.
Like it's like, dude.
And that's not all the, like, the MAGA people.
Some people are really upset about it and like chirping about it because you have like a two sides of it, right?
You have like the TechPro, fascist MAGA.
And then you have like the Steve Bannon MAGA.
So like there is a bit of a riff there.
But the cope is kind of fucking nuts to watch, bro.
It's the mental gymnastics that people do, you know, to try to protect themselves and their own previous views.
No one wants to come forward and be like, yeah, I would.
wrong. Like, I believed something that was not true or, uh, you know, I, I, I invested myself
emotionally in a political candidate, um, right, who is not a good guy. Um, but I mean, I, I see no
reason why any of us need to be emotionally invested in politicians. Um, I agree. You just, you just use
them for what they're useful for. And the second they are no longer useful, you discard them.
discard them like trash.
You don't need them.
You know,
it's whoever the president is,
whoever,
you know,
my senator is,
I mean,
he's not my daddy.
He's not.
He's just a guy.
And you want him to advocate
for political policies
that you agree with
and that you want to see implemented.
The second,
they're not doing that,
get rid of them.
Yeah,
I don't see how,
I don't understand why people
see these people like heroes.
It's something to do with like,
I think American culture
and like how you can see it in like even legislation we pass like it has like branding around it
like everything has to be branded it has to be in your face there has to be a you know multimedia
spread on it it's just something about like advertising and how Americans respond to things that
you know we create these cults of personality yeah yeah it's and it's definitely got to do
with like the media you're right how like the media disseminate stuff I
I mean, even with Obama, right?
Like, he was the hope and change candidate.
I mean, really.
People were totally irrational about what he was able to do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was crazy.
I mean, you know, even the Obamacare thing, like, sure, it's like a half measure, you know.
At the end of the day, he took away the public option because the insurance lobby told him to take away the public option to get it passed in a Congress that was majority Democrat, both at both houses.
So just think about that.
Like the president doesn't have ultimate power.
And like, yeah, some snazy, you know, yes, we can or lock her up or whatever.
Ken is nice to cheer at a rally or think about or argue with your friends about.
Or promise that they're going to bring down the price of gasoline.
They're going to lower inflation.
It's like, okay.
Right.
As if they have like real fucking, like a real pull on being able to do something like that.
Maybe inflation somewhat with the Fed.
but like gas is gas, but it's a market price.
Like it's OPEC.
Right.
So Epstein is a Musad agent, got it.
I mean, I don't know that for a fact.
I could improve it in a court of law, but if I was an FBI agent assigned to this case,
I would investigate that lead and see if there's anything to it.
I'll put it that way.
Also, the sketchy thing as well, what they did release was the,
the DOJ release was the video of like inside the prison in New York where like where it's cut.
It's been the metadata show that it was like edited four times or whatever.
And I think another report came out that he's up to almost three minutes cut out of it.
So the timestamps might be even bullshit possibly.
And so it's like, dude, you can't put like, what are you doing?
We're a country of fucking conspiracy theorists and you're just throwing gas on the petrol on it.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's so fucking dumb.
Especially PR-wise.
It's so dumb.
I don't know.
What else we got?
What else are you tracking?
What's going on with you in the high side?
What are we working on?
Working on a piece right now about the CIA in Afghanistan.
And it's a specific compartmentalized program that existed while we were over there.
It's probably about as far as I should go with describing it right now.
But it's going to be a very interesting piece that we're working on,
like some really, like, in-depth details and knowledge about this program.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to that one.
When are we expecting it?
Wallpark.
Next week.
All right, cool.
Cool.
Of course, a team house.
What else you got going on?
New novel.
Yeah.
on the final stages of that.
That'll be out in the spring.
In August, going to Tech Advise on a Vietnam War documentary.
So I'll be gone for a couple days.
That's about it, man.
Just trying to enjoy my summer.
You know, I feel it's slipping by so fast.
So I'm making the effort to, you know, just go and sit in the park and read and go out.
I went bar hopping with my girlfriend yesterday.
I'm around Brooklyn.
Yeah, I know because she doesn't drink.
She's very patient with me.
Well, we've got some concert tickets, going to see some shows this summer and into the fall.
That's about it.
Cool.
Yeah, and of course, the team house.
And I have read the novel for early drafts.
It's fucking solid.
And I'm not saying that to blow smoke up your ass.
It's fucking good.
I'm happy with it.
And I look forward to being able to talk a little bit more about, you know, what it's about.
And hopefully it spirals into a series.
That's the hope.
So, yeah, I'm looking forward to getting that out into the world.
All we got to do is just get a, get a A-list star to be attached to it, you know, in terms of like maybe making a TV show or movie on it.
And then, like, that's all you really fucking need.
Got it done.
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