The Team House - Trump, Zelensky, & EU Leaders Meet at White House w/ Jack Murphy | EYES ON GEOPOLITICS

Episode Date: August 20, 2025

In this episode, Dee and Jack Murphy discuss the recent geopolitical developments surrounding the Ukraine summit, the implications of Trump's approach to Putin, and the ongoing Israel-Palestine conflict. They delve into the complexities of security guarantees, NATO's role, and the shifting public sentiment towards Israel. The conversation also touches on domestic issues related to immigration enforcement and the dynamics of media content creation, concluding with updates on Jack's upcoming projects.00:00 Introduction and Overview of Current Events03:05 Analysis of the Trump-Zelensky Summit05:58 The Dynamics of U.S.-Russia Relations09:02 Security Guarantees and NATO's Role12:10 The Situation in Israel-Palestine14:54 Changing Perceptions of Israel and Anti-Semitism17:54 The Future of U.S. Support for Israel25:30 Crime and Governance: A Reflection on D.C.29:07 The Role of Immigrants in the Economy31:14 Law Enforcement and Constitutional Rights32:29 Havana Syndrome: Insights and Revelations34:34 Upcoming Projects and Future Endeavors39:33 Challenges in Content Creation and MonetizationBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support.

What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of Eyes on Geopolitics. Very special guests today. Our dear leader, Jack Murphy, former Army Ranger, former Green Beret, podcasts or journalist, author, High Sides, bro. Yeah, hell yeah, high sides.

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I slept wrong. I don't know. I need a new pillow. But besides that, a lot going on in the world. We got this new quilt, which is cool. Somebody sent that. I forgot their names, but I'll tag them in Instagram. So thanks for that.

What's going? on. Obviously, we had the summit yesterday with Zelensky and Trump and the afterwards was with a lot of the EU leaders, Germany, France, Italy, Finland. I'm missing other people, but trying to come up with, I guess, a plan of what to ask Putin, which is crazy. They have to ask Putin, who's the aggressor. A lot of stuff came out of it. I mean, people were watching with like, kind of like holding their breath during the early on press conference in the Oval Office, because the last time we saw them there, they, they They were yelling at each other. It went fine. I mean, people were saying it was like a great success. I mean, Trump did have like a couple of like detours where he was talking absolute nonsense,

whether it was mail in voting or D.C. with the National Guard, but that's domestic stuff. So we just will stick to Ukraine and what's going on there. They did have a good, good, uh, it was a decent enough meeting, I guess they, I mean,

I guess it's decent when they weren't, they didn't end it with yelling at each other and kicking them out of the white house. So I guess it's a win. after that press conference they had like a few hour meeting where it was just Selensky and Trump talking stuff I guess and then they met with the EU leaders I mean pretty unprecedented kind of summit right like a bunch of EU leaders coming to the White House to figure this out hasn't happened I think that many EU European leaders or world leaders haven't

been to the White House at the same time since JFK died so yeah um A couple points that came out of this from the financial times. They said they had agreed probably just, you know, just verbally for a $100 billion weapons package for Ukraine. That's going to be paid by Europe and the European leaders, European countries sold by the U.S. Also a $50 billion potential deal to integrate Ukrainian drone tech for the U.S. and stuff. So, I mean, obviously they are at the leading edge of it. So it's definitely a good thing. So what are you tracking?

There are some big points to this. Obviously, sorry I'm fucking bloviating here. Yeah, I mean, I hate to be like kind of Debbie Downer, but I don't see so much really coming out of this at all. They had this summit. Putin appears to be stalling for time. we go right back to where we've always been is that Zelensky is saying, I'm not going to give up my territory. And Putin is saying, we're not going to give you back your territory.

So you keep ending up in the same place. And it appears that Putin is essentially, you know, stalling for time. He's able to do this because President Trump wants a quick win. You notice that he skipped right from he doesn't even want a ceasefire anymore. He wants to go straight to the peace deal. is this idea of like what's going to put a million dollars in my pocket today? Who wants to make a deal? Let's make a deal.

Let's do business here. I think he's really gunned for the Nobel Peace Prize. That's the thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's looking for something, a feather that he can put in his hat right away. And that's not how a complicated peace treaty is going to be hashed out between these two countries. You know, in the meantime, Putin is able to continue to prosecute this war.

this illegal invasion of Ukraine in the United States is like, we're kind of done with Ukraine. We're not going to give you any more weapons. And so Putin has every incentive to draw this out as long as he possibly can, essentially to run out the clock, right? I think that's what he wants to do and then probably deal with the next administration. Because the only thing, unfortunately, that the Russians really respond to is force and coercion. They don't respond to diplomacy.

like this whole idea of like let's be nice to them. Let's take them in under our wing and try to help them out. Like that's nothing against Russian people, but the Russian government, the ruling regime is not going to respond to any of that. You know, what they will respond to is, you know, steel and artillery rounds and tanks. So that's kind of a level that you have to meet them on. So, yeah, unfortunately, I just don't see a lot coming out of. of this Alaska summit, it seems like, you know, ponies and balloons to me.

Yeah. Yeah, the Alaska summit totally felt like absolute bullshit. Just kind of placating Putin. It was funny, too, because in the conversation, supposedly Putin told Trump that how mailing ballots are bullshit and that how he won the 2020 election. And then if he was president during that time, Russia would have never went into Ukraine. So clearly, obviously, Trump afterwards, was parroting all those talking points, like literally just given to him by Poon. And Putin is just case officering him.

It's crazy. He's a KGB officer. He knows what he's doing. He's like, just tell this guy what he wants to hear, flatter him, make nice with him. And he'll eat it up. Yeah. And it was funny too because for some reason, Trump obviously responds more to that from Putin. Because what happens with the EU leaders, An Zelensky, and a lot of the people, like the talking heads,

us included, we're saying how, yeah, what Zelensky really needs to do is like, you know, talk him up, placate him, you know, really massage his ego. And it's like, dude, this guy's supposedly the, this guy's, not supposedly, he's the president of the United States.

It's like, really you can get almost anything you want just by flattering him, like literally. And like, just like being a sycophant. It's almost incredible to me how this is like the reality. we're living in right now. Yeah, and I mean, there's also this sort of like self-referential narcissism behind it that we see peace flowing through the White House, through the persona of Donald Trump,

whereas this conflict has to do with territorial claims, historical claims, things that really don't have a hell of a lot to do with America in the first place. Yeah. And the Europeans have to play ball because we are the undisputed global leader. We're irreplaceable. their security guarantee through NATO. So, I mean, they have to try to play ball with us. I get it.

But I mean, it's the same, same situation with Palestine and Israel is like peace does not flow through America or Americans or the American president. There are these longstanding historical issues that these people have with each other that, I mean, it's going to be much more difficult to hash out a sustainable peace than, you know, let's make a deal. Yeah, yeah. I give you this, you give me that. It's all good and we shake hands and it's perfect.

I tell you how great you are and you give me everything I want. Yeah, there's a bit more to it than that. Yeah, and I really do think that Trump's like going to, trying to gun for that Nobel Peace Prize only because you've heard from other like countries and stuff like that, other leaders like saying like, oh, you know, which is more a massaging the ego. Like, oh, President Trump really deserves this. During the press conference yesterday, he did mention like we stopped six wars,

all this stuff where, you know, and it's interesting because it's almost like he doesn't give a shit what happens to Ukraine as long as he gets a deal done in terms of like the money for the weapons paid by the EU and gets his, his, you know, his accolades. So they'll hand him a gold trophy like at the end of a little league game. And he doesn't give a shit if like Ukraine gives up all of his, all of their land and stuff like that, even land that Russia doesn't even have right now. Well, when he talks about Ukraine and Russia, I mean, it's clear that he doesn't really. even know what's going on or what he's talking about. And you're right. I don't think he's interested either. Yeah, whatsoever.

The big, big sticking point, obviously, is security guarantees. Wickoff after the summit in Alaska, there was a thing on Article 5 like, quote, unquote, security guarantees. Obviously, that carried into Monday. And that was, I think, the big, big point for Zelensky, Ukraine and the EU folks. and the leaders of the EU, what do these security guarantees actually look like? They need to be ironclad.

They need to be set in stone, right? Because they had security guarantees back in the 90s to give up their nukes and where do that go? Yeah. Security, I mean, NATO like is not NATO. Is it kind of like, a thumbs up, guys, you know, because Article 5 binds us together. Like if you invade one NATO country, you go to one. war with the entirety of NATO.

Otherwise, what is the guarantee really? Is it like, we got your back until, you know, the next election and the political tides turn and we lose interest in you? I mean, what, you know, what are we doing here? Yeah. And over the last couple of days, the Kremlin did come out and say, you know, they won't accept NATO countries, troops on the ground and things like that. So like, it's literally like what is a secure?

What the fuck is a security guarantee? I mean, especially if they're going to swap land, right? I don't even understand why we allow Russia to dictate terms like that. You just tell them. We're going to put NATO troops in, you know, Western Ukraine. And if you don't like that, do something about it. Yeah.

Watch how quick they back down. Yeah, well, they did say in a couple statements over the last couple days that, like, our NATO troops would be valid military targets. But, I mean, it's more like puffing their chest. Yeah, right. Yeah. you're going to start shooting artillery like a battalion of fucking

French guy or like an American like mechanized brigade or something like yeah yeah okay dude yeah yeah we'll see about that one I mean I was watching the press conference yesterday and it's just

I hate to harp on this but it's a fact like from the suit thing right like that was a fucking big thing to to like the stuff with the mail-in ballots and stuff like that. Like he's going to make an executive order to get rid of mail-in ballots. Meanwhile, he's voted through mail-in before.

Apparently, Russia has mail-in ballots, too. That's the funny thing, too. Exactly. And this is, like, a recent thing that Putin, like, signed into law in the last, like, 10 years. So it's just, it's crazy the level of, like, deference that Trump gives Putin. And I don't want to go to, like, he's an asset or whatever like that. but it's kind of incredible the level of which Trump kowtows to Putin and just he just literally parrots fucking talking points after a summit. I don't know.

I don't know. I have no question. I have nothing. So you just keep talking. I have no clue. Yeah. I mean, what the scenario that we've been laying out here, I mean, what it alludes to is a wasted four years that the conflict goes on for another four years. without any resolution in sight.

And we're kicking the can down the road to the next administration, whoever that ends up being. And they have to figure it out. That's kind of like the net impact of the path that we're pursuing here. Yeah. There was some, the German chancellor when he spoke at the brown table, where they were all at afterwards,

he really stuck on the fact that, like, we need a ceasefire now. and to then start talking about an actual lasting piece and stuff because as most people know, for Zelensky and Ukraine to land swap, they're going to need a referendum. So voted on by the people, which the last polls were saying about 78% are not cool with that.

No, they're not going to do. Right. And also like just the absolute like gall of Putin wanting to swap land that he doesn't even hold. Yeah, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like part of the Dombas. The Dombas isn't completely occupied and stuff.

Like they don't want the entirety of the good Dombas. It's like, bro, you don't have it. You want to just give you this shit? Like, what world are you fucking living in? Also, I think a big point from Ukraine, because Olinski actually mentioned it during the press conference initially was Ukraine being able to like keep their military equipped and strong and stuff like that not to like demilitarized.

There was a lot of sentiment after where it's like, oh, this just might happen, this might happen. I mean, if I'm betting money, I don't think this happens because I don't think you could trust the Russians whatsoever, unless there's like 200,000 NATO troops in Ukraine. Yeah, I don't see any big changes in the foreseeable future, unfortunately. I'm trying to think if there's anything else. I mean, the Russians were really full of shit. I mean, sorry, it's not high-level analysis, but you want to switch to what's going on with Israel, Palestine, and that shit show?

Did you see the one thing besides the big strategic stuff? Did you see one of the Israeli ministers got bagged for, like, child porn, got arrested, and then they released them and he's going back to Israel? He was arrested in the United States. Right, correct. He was arrested here, and he got freed. and he's back in Israel. Hey, so much for going after, you know, protecting the children. Yeah.

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proposed by Egypt and Qatar where they were at least I think about 20 or 25 hostages I don't think I think that's a no-go from what I've been reading initially maybe that'll change but it seems like this shit's going to keep going unfortunately

what are you looking at with this. I mean, I haven't been tracking it like the most recent developments, particularly closely. Just noticing, you know, kind of the tide beginning to turn just over the last month, maybe the last four weeks. Suddenly, the mainstream media is talking about war crimes in Gaza. Yeah. Where the last, what has it been two years, we were told emphatically they are not happening. And if you dared to say anything about it and say, hey, this doesn't look right. You know, you were immediately besieged by, you know,

accusations of anti-Semitism. So the tide is kind of starting to change. Like the political winds are starting to blow in the other direction. And that comes with a bandwagoning effect where all these people who are pundits and stuff are like, oh, I've always been against the war crimes, you know? Sure. It's one of those kind of things where as the truth starts to come out and becomes undeniable, um, people sort of jump on that bandwagon.

And so that's been interesting to see. The problem with it is I don't think it matters at this point. Gaza has been basically demolished. The Israelis have accomplished their maximalist goals to, I mean, they're already well on their way to, you know, Gaza is just not going to exist anymore. So I think the sort of like, you know, coming out against war crimes in, you know, summer. of 2025. It's already too late. Too little too late.

Yeah. Yeah. And the new plan is now probably going to call up a couple hundred thousand reservists to reoccupy the majority, like over 80% or 85% of Gaza. That's the new plan from the IDF and, well, Netanyahu, because the IDF chief of staff came out and said, you know, this is not, this is going to be almost impossible. And the last week or so, you have seen, I think there was half a million Israelis out in Tel Aviv

protested to end the war. I was just yesterday. Yeah. So it definitely seems to be turning a bit. At least they get the hostages back. You know, because destroying Hamas is like an absolute. Sure. Maybe they'll change their fucking name,

but there's going to be people that hate IDF and Israel in Gaza forever until you stop bombing the tip. out of them and killing and starving children and women. I mean, it's, it's interesting that the IDF was once seen as this undefeatable, invincible force. Today, we've seen them just trying to occupy and reoccupy, clear and re-clear parts of Gaza, and they're just unable to gain any sort of decisive military control over about a 20-mile strip of land that is between their own border, their own country, and the ocean. So they're far from undefeatable.

I mean, it seems like, I don't know what. Maybe the myth was never a real thing or maybe there's just been a significant amount of rot within their military in subsequent decades. But I don't think anyone's ever going to see Israel in the same light after this. And I don't think Israelis will see themselves in the same light after this. It's something that's going to change the nature of their society as well. Yeah. And I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, like what Israel's doing and they're far right, like the Netanyahu's, the Gavirs and the rest of them are doing outside of like genocide and killing, you know, innocent people is creating a brand new generation of actually anti-Semitic people who can't really differentiate between, you know, far right Zionist dudes and the government.

man and like just regular Jewish people that you know like at least in New York you know when you see you're friends with and like they're normal fucking people right most people can't make that distinction if you look at American politics both the far left and the far right is turning against Israel in a really profound way um for different reasons very different reasons in some in some ways some manners um but if you look at some of the polls I mean it looks like Israel is maybe like a generation away from losing American political support. Which that's an interesting thing to note because we've talked about it before and it totally makes sense in terms of like the generational wise.

But like as people see it right now, most people are like, you know, Israel and A PAC, they have like such a hold over the go or the U.S. government and stuff like that and such influence over the government where people really, I think don't think that that's a possibility and it really is, right? Because the younger generation really, you know, maybe they'll change as they get older and like people get into politics and people become Congress people and they're getting a ton of money from AIPAC. Maybe they'll loosen up a little bit. But I'm talking about like overall the electorate, I guess, of the United States is probably. Right now it's just a crack in the facade.

You know, there's like widespread democratic and Republican support for Israel right now. So like near term, nothing's, you know, they're not in any jeopardy or anything like that. I'm thinking more than like 25 years, 30 years from now. You look at all these young people growing up, especially, you know, young people that the messaging about the Holocaust isn't resonating with them as profoundly. I mean, that's 80 years in the past now. I think for young Arab Americans, especially when you try to hit them with the Holocaust, They just, they look at it like, okay, but we didn't do that. So, you know, what does it have to do with us?

So I think some of the, I don't want to say some of the propaganda, but just some of the rhetoric just doesn't resonate with a younger generation that it would have, even with mine, you know, I grew up around World War II veterans as a little kid. Israel was kind of tied into America's history with World War II and the conclusion of the war and the creation of the state of Israel. And so it's all kind of like wound up in the minds of somebody like me that's maybe 40 or older. But somebody who's 20 or younger, not so much. Not even. Not even close. And I mean, you know, we obviously see more and more the younger generation is, I read

some stat like where it's like a lot of, like a big percentage is functionally illiterate. So you're telling me they're reading history books. even watching history movies or documentaries about World War II and what went down there and like actually informed about that stuff, I would, I would argue not. So yeah, as it goes farther in the future, I can't see them it being. Yeah, because World War II growing up, everybody was like you kind of knew what World War II was about. Like you, you know, and like you said, like the inevitable byproduct of it was, you know,

establishing the state of Israel, the U.S. becoming the superpower that it is today and all that stuff. And then, you know, obviously the Cold War. Yeah, I like that. Once you told me that, I remember last week or whatever when you told me that was like, yo, that does make sense, right? Like the younger generation really doesn't have that connection. So it was interesting because you see how strong APEC is, right? Like they have like these guys wrapped around their fucking fingers meeting Congress people.

I think the war crimes have polarized a lot of people on the left. And I think there's a rising tide of anti-Semitism on the right, the far right, I should say. And I'm not not centrists or even like MAGA people who are very pro-Israel. But like the far right, I'm talking about like the Nick Fuentes types. Yeah. You can see it there on the fringes. And whether or not it gains more traction remains to be seen. But that it's there is concerning, right?

Like even though I have political disagreements with the state of Israel, I don't want to see Israel destroyed. Right. I don't hate Israeli people. I certainly don't have any issue with Jewish people. So, you know, any kind of rise in anti-Semitic behavior, whether it's on the right or the left, is troubling, right? Yeah. Yeah, you see kind of this chasm both on the right and the left, like especially MAGA, because you have. MAGA who's like, you know, you're like the neocon-style MAGA folks.

And then you have like the quote unquote America first people who are, you know, pinch of pinchous racist and stuff like that. Right. You're all right. Total split. And even lefties too, like there's a total split there too because you have like the hardcore like tanky anti-West people that, you know, have no problem like supporting Hezbollah or supporting Hamas.

and talking about them like they're good, good organizations, right? And yeah, it's kind of, I feel like you miss the forest for the trees, right? Like you're not thinking, you're not thinking pragmatically and how things could really work, meaning like there's going to be a power structure there.

Even if you got rid of Hamas or Hezbollah completely, there's going to be a vacuum that's going to get filled. And it's not going to be filled by democratically, you know, secular, Democratic, liberal democracy guys, like Thomas Jeffers is not going to fill the gap. Well, that's back to the American-centric view that I was mentioning earlier, that we think everything flows through us and that we can create little states around the world that look like us. Yeah, which is hilarious. You would think that we would learn.

Well, I mean, look at everything that's happening right now. Ostensibly, we cannot get crime in Washington, D.C. under control. So perhaps we should hedge our bets as far as getting crime on the Gaza Strip under control. That might not be like a thing that America can do. You know, Afghanistan, Vietnam, like maybe there are limits to American power after all. Right. Yeah. Totally.

The D.C. stuff is kind of insane. I know this is more geopolitical stuff. But fact is crime in D.C. has gone down like 35 to 40 percent over the last like four or five years. So, man, it's things that are going on here are kind of bad shit. And I'm almost embarrassed that this, I'm not almost embarrassed. I'm embarrassed that this shit's going on. I'm trying to, I'm not trying, I'm stunned being diplomatic here. Yeah.

I mean, I feel ashamed. You know, where, actually where my, where my girlfriend lives and right where we had our first date years ago, the kids were playing. They had a little league game the other day. And ICE was there asking little kids where they're from. No shit. That's fucking insane, bro. And let me guess the kids were like Hispanic.

I don't know the racial background, but Hispanics play baseball. Well, that's true, too. Yeah, yeah. But the coach got in the way and, like, told them the fuck off. But, I mean, the fact that there are federal agents asking little kids where they're from, like, that's just profoundly un-American. Dude, it's crazy. It's unconstitutional in like every fucking way possible, right? Like Fourth Amendment, right?

Don't you have a right to privacy? Even if you're not a citizen. The Constitution extends to people that are not citizens. At least in some aspects. So I didn't know that. I just was asking little fucking, what, 10 year old, 12 year olds? Instead of Little League game, that's like, yeah, 10 young kids. Oh, my gosh.

So what if a kid's like, yeah, I'm from fucking Guatemala and they fucking snatch the kid? Yeah. And deal with it later? Like half of New York City could honestly say I'm from Puerto Rico Yeah, right And also be an American citizen

That's so fucking crazy That they're federal agents doing that Did you see that ICE Lowered like the age Like for recruitment and stuff like that And they're offering like big signing bonuses Yeah, they're doing the same with the FBI I mean they're trying to create an army of morons

Essentially who will follow orders Like you don't want to recruit smart people to do these jobs because they might have an independent thought. They might decide, hey, this is wrong. Like, why are we doing this? You don't want those people. You want the person that like, hey, steady paycheck. As long as it comes in every month, I'll do whatever you tell me to.

Yeah, steady paycheck and benefits. I'll get you a long way. You know what I mean? Like, you'll do, you'll commit unconstitutional shit for that. Government bennies and, you know, a GS7 salary. hope it's worth it. Um, what a nightmare.

Let's get into it though. I look, fuck it. I've been kind of biting my tongue on the eyes on because like, we talk more foreign stuff and like, I'm clearly in the camp of like Israel's

committing genocide and Netanyahu and his right cabinet is a disaster and this stuff with ice. Like, like immigrants, especially South American immigrants, run our fucking economy. They are the backbone lifeblood of the economy. Nothing would get done.

You would never get your DoorDash order. You would never get the construction that's done in across the country. It's powered by immigrant labor, both illegal and legal. Because the fact is, white people are not going to be interested in breaking their back, shoveling shit, digging up ditches or washing dishes in a restaurant for $15, $17 an hour. That's a fact. Yeah. And they still won't be after we kick out all of these illegals. Right.

Who's going to do it? And the funny thing is, too, is, like, they're not even going after, like, the MS-13 guys, like, the gangs that they said. Like, they actively avoid areas in, like, L.A. Where there's high gang activity. And they're just trying to fucking go after the guys who are at Home Depot looking for a gig. Yeah, low-hanging fruit. Little league games. The little league game thing is unfucking real to me, dude.

Like, what happens? If it's if you snatch a kid that's 11 years old and they have parents and stuff. I mean, look at the videos of these guys. They're all masked up, gunned up like morons. I mean, this is the lowest common denominator. These guys are morons. They're just thugs with guns. Yeah.

Yeah. And like with that big, beautiful bill, ICE has become the largest federal agency. I think they're getting like $75 billion a year in funding, which is pretty gnarly to me. I'm not saying they shouldn't be funded. I think they should be funded and we should have secure borders and stuff like that. But I don't know if we should just be randomly going after people at Little League games asking them where they're from. I don't think we should have law enforcement officers masked up who refused to identify themselves, who go into buildings without warrants and just snatch people up.

And some of them are illegal. Some of them aren't. You know, I mean, no, I don't agree with that. Yeah. Man, what else? What do you got? What do you track and what high side? What are we working on?

Actually, I'm writing some book reviews right now. I got them right here. Tim Weiner's book. Seth Harp's book, which he'll be on the show on Team House this Friday, and Airborne Mafia. So I read all three of these working on reviews of them. Mr. Naylor is working on part two of our Havana syndrome. Nice.

So both of those things you should see August and September. Just to remind people about the Havana and part one. Want to give a quick rundown about that and what to expect for round two? Yeah. I mean, the first part of it, it really focuses on the initial COVID. of guys that were hit in Havana, Cuba and kind of the trials and tribulations they went through with the CIA and are still going through in some ways. Part two focuses a bit more on the medical side of it. We get a little bit deeper into the science, into the, you know, what is this

device exactly? What does it do? How does it work? And talk to the actual doctors that treated some of the patients about what they went through. And a few other revelations. about some of the bureaucratic bullshit that these guys are still dealing with. Yeah. And to me, the most, like, eye-popping, surprising, shocking part of, from part one was, some of these guys' places were broken into and stuff like that. In the United States. In the United States, the tactics that are done to them, usually when they're, like, out on, you know,

as working as case officers or whatever, that, you know, the SAP, like, the harassment that's done to them overseas was happening in the United States, which is gnarly, right? Like, it's so there's, it's so much deeper and more, like, intriguing than, like, just, like, people trying to fight for, like, their rights to, like, healthcare after being hurt in the line of, like, duty. Yeah. So I'm excited about the round two.

One of this, that's part two. It's going to be good. Also, we got a book. We got a book coming out, too. We got. your novel coming out next year. Yeah, next year, June 23rd, 2026 is the release date of the novel.

And we have a book cover. I don't know if I'm allowed to say the title or what the synopsis is. I'm waiting on the kind of like final clearance of the book with my editor. And then it'll go into go to the copy editor and the book will be finalized and you know, ready for publication. But I'm excited about it. Excited to get it out. And, you know, once I can, I'll definitely have more to say about it.

Also, I, not last week, the week before I was down in South Carolina working on a documentary film. I'll just say it's a Vietnam War documentary. And I'll definitely talk much more about that as a. as, you know, I'm allowed to when the director says it's okay to. They made him shave his beard. They made you shave your beard. Yeah, that's why I have my little short beard here. I had a small on-camera role, and they asked me to shave.

So, yeah, I'll definitely talk more about that when, you know, I'm permitted to. Yeah. I saw the book cover. I saw the, I've heard the book title, and they're pretty, both pretty cool. I'm looking for, I've read the book, and it's pretty solid. too. It's all. Actually, awesome. It should be hated to a movie. I think, I think it's really going to resonate by the time it comes out, especially. I'll say there is sort of a, there's sort of a subplot about artificial intelligence in the book, and people who worship it. And that's just one little

small part of it. But I think, I think it'll resonate with people when it's released. Quite apt for the time. Yeah. I mean, like, we're seeing it. in real time happening, which I think, like, AI is a great tool that you could use, but I don't think it's the be all and all, at least not yet. You know what I mean? Definitely not. What else, high side? What do you got cooking on the back burner?

Are you looking at, like tracking on maybe doing a piece about it? There are a couple things, a couple big things, big projects that Sean and I have been eyeballing for a while, that I can't really see. say anything about right now. They're big stories, a pretty big, like, heavy lift to get some of those off the ground. There are a couple other smaller ones, J-Soc operations that I'd like to write about. I'd like to return to writing about Syria at some point, too. But right now, yeah, it's wrapping up the Havana syndrome stuff.

And once we're done with that, we will be able to focus on some other things. down the line, not immediately, but down the line, if I were to write like a sequel to this Havana syndrome series, I'd like to write a story similar to how I wrote about the guys that got hit in Havana. I'd like to do that, but write about the guys that got hit in China. Because the thing, it was Havana, China, Vienna were like three of the big spots where this started happening. So I'd like to go and do like a deep dive on China and see like how was it different there?

How was it the same? You know, really get into that. But that's another project for another day. Yeah, because the China stuff is like their questions, right? Like was it China doing it? Was it Russia doing it? Because the prevailing thought is that like Russia is mainly behind this and like have the balls to do this. But in China, I feel like there are other questions, right?

Because obviously China is, you know. arrival. Yeah. I mean, there are lots of questions. Cool, bro. What the fuck else? What else is going on? How's life good?

Yeah, man, can't complain. I was, so I did that film. And then I went, took a small vacation upstate last week. So was in upstate New York cruising around. Came back to the city. And over the weekend, drove out to, city island. Have you ever been out there? So it's an island off the coast of the Bronx, right off the coast.

There's take a small bridge to get there. It has a history of shipbuilding, sailmaking, all that kind of stuff. The, what were they called the Hellgate? Hellgate pilots. So like the waters between the East River, you know, and going north through Queens towards Long Island, I guess into the Long Island Sound. those were especially treacherous waters and there were specialized boat captains that would take the ships from point A to point B to get through there. So anyway, that's sort of the history of City Island, but it's interesting because it's a part of New York City, but it's sort of like a little Cape Cod out there.

Yeah. So I've heard the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. So that was cool. But otherwise, yeah, now I'm back to real life trying to catch up on everything that I've missed the last. Yeah, back on the grind. Especially this week, we have fucking, we are shooting three T-Mouse episodes plus

eyes-on episodes you're here doing this with me. So, yeah, we're going to get back into the grind pretty heavily. So do us all a favor, though. If you like what you see, both on Aizond and T-Mouse, join our Patreon. It's patreon.com slash T-Mouse. That link is in the description as well. You get ad-free audio and video for both Aizon and the T-Mouse. We started doing bonus segments again with the team house on most shows, not all of them, but every few, you know, every other show probably would do a bonus segment and you're only going to have access to that.

Some spicier stories that can't really be told in general public will go there. Yeah, I got nothing else. I'm fucking, I'm still red hot today. I'm really salty. I don't know why. It's because I have a headache and I'm annoyed and I didn't sleep well. Like my neck, I woke up with a stiff neck and that totally threw me off. I mean, there are a myriad of things that are bothering me, especially in the YouTube world.

That's why you guys need to join our Patreon and help support us because YouTube is an absolute fucking disaster for us. Not a disaster, but compared to what it was a year ago, I would say it's pretty fucked up. I would describe it as useless. Like, there's basically no reason for us to be on YouTube at this point, just to be totally real. Yeah. I tend to agree with you The funny thing is like YouTube Bar None is like the only place where you can actually like

Garner an audience faster and a video or show can really take off But we have not seen that in a while and the revenue wise It's crazy because our revenues up everywhere else But YouTube revenue is like in the fucking absolute shitter It's like nominal frankly what the YouTube revenue is and it's it's incredible like what's happened I mean, I think that, you know, YouTube doesn't like the way that we use it. And I think Substack doesn't necessarily like the way that we use it either. Why?

And frequently? Yeah, not that I have any complaints about Substack. It's just I think that they have in mind more like that you're going to write hot takes on there every day. And I think YouTube is sort of the same way that they have this attitude, this idea, that, you know, you're going to do hot takes on conspiracy theories and weird political stuff every day and post that up. And, I mean, I laugh because everybody, you know, you see article after article being written about like, why is America so polarized? Why are people so crazy? It's not a mystery to me.

Yeah, right. The algorithm has monetized it. I mean, the business model is, are you crazy? No? Okay. How can I make you crazy? Yeah. Or if your answer is yes, you are crazy, then the business model is, how can I make you even more crazy than you already are?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. 100%. I mean, YouTube specifically is like become like, you need to really ride the algorithm is it not only needs to be top. but it needs to be salacious and you got to ride that like reactionary wave yeah a little bit like uh you know reacting to this crazy thing and like really like giving out hot takes maybe even if you don't believe in it

which is hilarious right like i can kind of respect it if you're like totally back shit and you and you actually believe it but less i mean hopefully people are not actually totally insane but commitment to the bit yeah it's just uh crazy also like the comedians with like cancel culture shit it's like guys you guys most of the guys that complain about this are comedians that have massive podcasts and do massive numbers on the road so like they're making millions and millions of dollars a year it's like no one's canceling you're actually thriving you're actually thriving right now uh while you complain about possible cancel culture because you say like the f word or whatever you know what i mean like it's not actually true at all so let's just get

reactionary, bro. Let's do it. I want a jet ski. I want to be rich. Here is why COVID-19 was a hoax. No, we have. The hidden mysteries. All will be revealed. Yeah, exactly. I'm going to start getting you to react to like Tim Kennedy stuff. Dude, I just don't care. Come on. That's the, that's the problem that I have is that I just don't give a shit about these kind of like stupid things. Like, I, I, I see it every day. I mean, I think we were talking about it yesterday.

Like, you log on to Instagram and like it's Tim Kennedy, Tim Kennedy, Tim Kennedy. It's crazy. It's like, hey, dude, like one post will suffice. I'm not obsessed with this dude. I'm sorry. Yeah. It's just a story that never really ends. I literally switch over from my Instagram to Team House.

The first three posts I see are Tim Kennedy. And it's just some random podcast that's talking about Tim Kennedy. And it's like, I get it, guys. He lied and stuff, and he's a goober. I understand, like, he's an asshole. But, like, move on to something else. Like, find another piece of drama you can find. Like, I don't know, talk about trans in the military.

Like, just switch it up, man. You know what I mean? Like, hit the greatest hits and stuff. Well, we're going to start getting into it because I really want a, I want a summer home and I want a jet ski. You know? Jack, so that's what we got to get into? Those are probably attainable goals. You think so? I don't know.

Yeah. You know how they can be attained if you guys go to patreon.com slash a team asking you support the show? I got nothing else. I mean, I got a lot of else we can complain about, but we could do that next time. Jack, we should do this once a week, bro, every Tuesday. What are you feeling? How are your thoughts on that? Dude, I am a podcasting Muldoon.

Like, I feel like war down at a certain point when, especially when you have me doing this multiple times a day. I know. I know. I literally saw you within the last 20, not even 12 hours. Yes, I know. I recall. And we were potting.

Which is a good show, David Grange, former. Former everything. Former everything at Lurp, Ranger, Special Forces, Delta Force Commander, General. Incredible career. So check that out. That's coming out tonight. most likely Tuesday so it'll be out soon so if you're watching this it's probably out right now so are listening all right jack i love you go to the high side the link is in the description

connecting vets of course take a look we defy is also out for available the secret history of special forces jack's book history book about s f really good cool cool uh front cover i wonder who made that me. And yeah, good stuff. Thanks, Jack. All right. Take care, guys. Hey, guys. I want to tell all of you today about a new newsletter that we're launching that encompasses both the Team House podcast, the IZON podcast, and the Highside News outlet, which I run with Sean Naler. The newsletter is going to be once a week. It's going to come into your inbox and you're going to get the most current podcasts on Aizon and the Teamhouse and whatever's topical or current on the high side. So it's another way for us to get the information out to you as social media algorithms are pretty iffy and you never really know what you're going to get.

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