The Team House - Ukraine Hits Russian Bases with Massive Drone Strike | EYES ON GEOPOLITICS

Episode Date: June 2, 2025

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Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of Aizondiol Politics. I'm Dmitz Contacos. I'm here with the full crew, Andy Milburn, Mick Mulroy, Jason Lyons. A lot happened today. A big, big sabotage attack in Russia by Ukraine, hit a ton of aircraft, ton of strategic bombers, an incredible operation. I'm like, let's just crack into it. You guys want to mud wrestle for who goes first?

You tell me, I'll jump in if you want. Go for it, Andy. Right. So, you know, essentially, and guys jump in, of course, here's what we know right now. At upwards, 40 and upwards, strategic bombers have been destroyed. So, for instance, there are something like 27 Russian TU95s, and those of you out there who are air geeks or followers of Alex Hollings will know that TU95 is very important to the Russians because they use as a missile platform. In fact, a lot of the cruise missiles that are launched at Kiev are being fired by the TU95, for instance, from over the Caspian Sea. Anyway, that's not the point.

The main point is like at least 40 of these strategic bombers, I mean, it's strategic aircraft and located deep within side Russia, four bases. Okay, and the reports vary, but as far as how deep inside Russia, one report says as far as names of place as deep as 4,000 kilometers inside Russia have been destroyed by multiple FPV and other types of drones, mostly FPV drones. How did it happen? Well, apparently, if it's an SBU operation, SBU is their intelligence agency, not their military intelligence agency, but their equivalent of the CIA.

And it's a 18-month operation. It was planned for 18 months by the head of the SBU as a guy named Vasul Maluk. By the way, who was born in 1983. So he's a young guy. And he began the war actually as a soldier. He was involved in the fighting for the airport early on in the war. And so what they did, this is really astounding. They smuggled in multiple FPV drones, unknown how many.

but it's probably, you know, probably upwards of a hundred or more. And they smuggled in these wooden compartments, all right? When I say smuggled in, I mean, that's not that easy, but somehow they got them in overland. And then subsequently welded or attached these compartments with the drones inside to trucks that they knew the routes of these trucks would lead them within a few kilometers of the various bases that they've attacked. Okay, so you can imagine all the background that has to go into planning this.

The truck drivers are unwitting, and here's the really astonishing part that we don't, we can't answer how this was done, but it appears as though the FPV drones were operated from inside Ukraine. And if you look on in Twitterland, you'll see now there's video of the trucks exploding. In one case, Russian soldiers are boarding the truck to try and stop the drones from taking off. and the truck just catches on fire and then explodes. So factored into this were, you know, some means of destroying the evidence and killing anyone who tried to come on board

to prevent this from happening. I'll pause there for a moment. Let's see what you guys have to add to that. Mick? Mick, you're muted. Sorry. Well, what I would say is hats off to the It's a unit I'm very familiar with and, you know, this is going to go down in history as one of the most effective.

Certainly in the cost effective range, right? You're looking at some of these drones that are like $500 and they're taking out a million dollar aircraft. And I'm just getting, because I'm going to be talking about this on ABC to show you the level of this. ABC usually doesn't break in on the weekends for this kind of stuff, but they are. So it really does show you how enormous this was. It looks like there were four different air bases that were targeted. And I mean, it's almost worth going down the list of aircraft that were taken out because it's a lot. You know, like Andy said, billions of dollars worth of strategic aircraft, which are not easily replaced.

And it shows that once again, Russia is not anything near what we had made them out to be. when you can't even protect your places like this, thousands and thousands of kilometers inside Russia. But this is part of a much bigger discussion, right? So we saw a lot of talk this week with Senator Graham and Blumenthal and visiting President Zelensky talking about the sanctioning Russia Act. That needs to happen. We need to stop talking about these things. It's clear Russia is not interested at all in ceasefire negotiations.

I mean, they proposed Istanbul and that didn't show up, basically, even though President Trump was willing to show up and President Zelensiki was willing to show up. There's one party to this, and it's been the same party since the invasion that isn't interested in the ceasefire. They only understand strength. This showed strength today, and it showed us, and then there's even other videos of other attacks going on today. I'm sure it will be met with Russia's sending cruise missiles and drones right at civilians as it's done the whole time. Another war crime. But it's time, and I think you can see the movement on including in Japan, but also in Europe, on releasing frozen Russian assets. And they need to pass this sectioning Russia Act, which will have a devastating effect potentially on Russia's ability to keep this war going financially.

So hats off to them. A hell of an operation. This is going to be dissected by every military of the planet right now to see how this was carried out and how they can potentially do in the future and defend against in the future. Because this is going to lead to a whole different discussion on the use of drones, which is coming so fast. I don't think people even understand modern militaries don't even understand the impact of what's going on in Ukraine on the future of warfare. And if you add that to artificial intelligence in quantum computing, we're about to enter a whole new era. I don't even know if science fiction has even caught up depicting what this era is going to be. Clearly it's time to coincide with, oh, I'm sorry, Mick. Yeah, clearly it's, it's time possibly to coincide with Senators Graham. Senator Graham and Blumenthal's visit to Kiev, right? I mean, they're in Kiev now.

And Zelensky has just said to them, look, we have a roadmap for peace. We'd like to present it again. And evidently had this up his sleeve, which is masterful timing as we talk about. The Russians don't understand please for peace or anything, but they do understand when they lose 30% of their strategic athlete. Hey, guys, it's Jack. I just want to talk to you for a moment about how you can support. the show if you've been watching it, enjoying it, but you'd like to get a little bit more involved

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we really appreciate it guys thank you and and by the way there's things popping up on the news sadly one it looks like one of these truck drivers was lynched or killed by Russian security forces and there's a picture of them strung out on the road with a rope around his neck and the Russians have released two others having determined that they they were unwitting wow crazy yeah Jason give us a rundown on like what was lost and stuff like that I think you have like a good handle on what at this Yeah, it's kind of conflicting because some of the numbers are saying 40 aircraft were hit, but the numbers that I'm getting, it's way, way over that.

So I'll just read you the types of aircraft and their significance. So we have some T-U-160 blackjacks. That is the, and I'm giving you the NATO designation blackjack. Those are the equivalent of their answer to the B-1, USB-B-1 bomber, supersonic bomber, long-range. as Andy mentioned, some TU95 MS bears. Those are Cold War era propeller driven bombers

but have massive range for launching cruise missiles, anti-ship missiles, those sorts of things. And they're using those almost every night, right? Like lobbing over cruise missiles. Yep, absolutely. And then a couple of

IL78M Midas aircraft. They're military transports. Pardon my notes here. Some AM-26 curl military transport aircraft. A couple of AN12 Cubs. Those are also Cold War era transport and patrol aircraft. Also significant, some TU22 M3 backfire, supersonic bombers. Those are also Cold War era aircraft.

Some MiG31 Foxhounds, they're supersonic interceptors. They're developed in the 70s, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, so and then there's rumor. I don't know if they were hit or not, but probably the most significant aircraft that were lost, if this is true, or some two AFA 50 mainstay aircraft. They are airborne early warning and control aircraft.

So they can control multiple areas of the battlefield, aircraft, missiles. They're not armed themselves, but they can control those things. And from what I understand, there were only six operational ones because there were others that were lost earlier as of 2024. So if they lost two more or even one, that's a significant loss. Yeah, so that's the rundown that I have so far.

Guys, I can't think of a special operations case. I mean, I'm sorry, special operations operation that rivals this. Can you guys? certainly not, you know, in modern times. Got some historians out there. Please let us know. Yeah. And the fact, just the fact that you're using, and I've heard others in the media use the term special operations, like most traditional special operations that people think of are green braes, you know, seals, moro sock, that sort of thing.

And the fact that drones have been now placed in that realm is, it's pretty significant. Yeah. I mean, the way. about all the intelligence that went into this. Yeah. That's why I was run by the intelligence services, and that's likely what we're going to be seeing in the future. And incredibly bossy actions on the ground.

You know, getting, I mean, the logistics of getting these things in country, getting them on top, welded on top of the trucks, or however they were attached on top of these trucks, without being seen, you know, multiple trucks. I mean, it's just phenomenal. And the technology of being able to control. these drones from all that distance. Absolutely.

Now, I don't know how true, sorry, the, I don't know how true this is, maybe you gents know, but I'm hearing that Zelensky himself took a personal interest in this and overseeing this. Do you know if that's right? Makes sense. I mean, this is a strategic level, this is a strategic impact operation for sure. I guess they probably could have guessed how successful it could have been when they were planning this. And it looks like, you know, it met expectations. So I hope this translates, obviously it's going to be a military, huge military setback for Russia,

but I hope it translates to people understanding that Ukraine is not losing. Like this fiction that they're losing and that is Russian propaganda. I mean, if you look at the map from a year ago until now, it's barely any changed. And this is going to really set them back. and I hope they can just capitalize on this, not just militarily, but politically and internationally when it comes to support. I mean, back the back, not only the country that's in the right, but back the country that's got the might and the smarts, and they are, they are showing it.

They're bringing it. Yeah, it turns out they do have some cards to play, you know? Yeah. Yeah, and Maliaq has been, you know, we've mentioned, we talked about Budenov, who had the GUR and you know he's the military intelligence side also relatively young guy late no we're now 40 years old and he's been behind a lot of the he was so the the GUR was behind do you remember all the talk about the Russian insurgent groups within side Russia and that was that was a GUR operation and some of the drone strikes from Moscow came from GUR.

But the SBU was behind the Crimean Bridge attack, if you remember that, and the sea drone attacks too. In fact, one of the sea drones is named after Malayuk, the head of the SPU. And it's kind of interesting. Malik's the first non-political appointee as head of the SDU. You know, it was, I don't know if you're tracking. but earlier on in the war, not long after I appeared, my infamous appearance on the team house,

where, you know, I said, I said, have Ukraine has some problems to solve itself? Zelensky was evidently watching, realizing that I was right and fired five senior guys within the SBU. They've had problems within the SPU. In fact, Maliuk, after he was appointed, personally arrested the chief of staff of SBU's counterterrorism center as a Russian agent. and he's exposed 300. The SPU's arrested, just in the last few months, 300 alleged Russian or Ukrainian traitors within the Ukrainian security service. So he's cleaning house inside, and he's doing, you know,

he's in doing incredible things against Russia itself. You know, I just finish up by saying that we talked about the fact that Russia not only has lost control of the seas, but has lost most of its black sea, fleet and the Ukrainians don't even really have a Navy to speak of. You know, it's all been asymmetric attacks. And in the same way, you know, here we are faffing around with $30 billion aircraft carriers. I knew it. I knew you were going to bring it back.

Chinese can stink, according to our own Secretary of Defense within 20 minutes, right? That's what he said today. Every single U.S. aircraft carrier can be sunk within 20 minutes. But what's a real aircraft carrier? It's an articulated lorry, right? the, as the British say. I just knew it. I knew I was coming back to go ahead and make, sorry.

Is the support that the U.S. has in the pipeline is going to run out? Right? So there's talk, discussions underway of Europe buying our stuff and giving it to them. And we just need to not only continue our support, we need to increase our support. That's what the leader of the free world does. One country, particularly a country we identified for multiple. national security strategies as one of our biggest adversary invades the democratic country. We need to support. I'm going to be a broken record on this, but the problem is, is there's a lot

of talk, and the talk's going in the right direction, but there isn't a lot of action. Pass the bill, increase the support, release the funds of frozen assets. This is a time to really make a difference. If you want to see a ceasefire, it's going to have to be Russia sees itself losing. and we have an opportunity here. Absolutely. I guess early estimates are saying that if the reporting is correct on the aircraft that were struck and the damage done to these airfields, it's about $2 billion in damage, if it's true, which is a huge blow.

And then also, I think Andy you sent us the link on X about an explosion observed at Severomorsk, home to Russian submarines? You're muted, Mike. Yeah, that's going to be interesting to see. There's much chatter and Twitter land on that. But there's more than, I mean, there's multiple reports now of explosions there suggesting maybe somehow they've combined this with an attack on a submarine base, either with sea drones or maybe also with FPVs.

And I saw two major bridges were hit as well. I didn't see where. Nine dead. And yeah, I think one fell on a civilian train as well. So it would probably be more casualties. But yeah, bold moves. Just think about what's going on right now in the U.S. military, right? Look at our bomber bases.

Look at our, you know, nuclear submarines. Right? We've got very comfortable with, you know, having conventional overmatch of all our adversaries. but this is changing the equation entirely. Absolutely. I mean, this is, this is in my estimation, this calls for like an immediate,

freaking, I don't know what you want to call it, summit, coming together to talk about where this is headed and how we make sure we maintain our superiority. Yeah, agreed. I'm not optimistic. We move so slowly. And it's kind of an interesting dichotomy, right? if I can say that word, D, on this show.

Of course. Feel free. You know, we have a, we have an assistance, a military assistance group within Kiev now. I mean, the U.S. military does. And yes, but what I'm heading on this is the days of us teaching Ukrainians anything long gone. I mean, we need to be learning from them at every single level. what they have learned on the ground for everything

from how their soldiers fight, how they organize, to this kind of special operation. I mean, we need to be learning, and I'm not sure we are humble enough as an institution to do that. But to mix point, everything from our vulnerabilities, our use of high-end drones and weapons systems that are incredibly vulnerable, we talked about losing 30,

you know, 30 predators over Yemen in the last few years, each of which is $30 million, I mean $30 million. Sorry, $30 million. You know, we just don't learn. And yet the Ukrainians are mass generating.

You know, I read about one factory turning out $10,000 a month. You know, last time I was saying like $1,000 a month, I was way low. People were sending in comments about that. And we just are nowhere near this. And our acquisition system operates at glacial speed by the time that we, you know, we've chosen to adopt a platform or a weapon system, costing multi-million dollars.

And by the time it hits the assembly line, it's already obsolete. We've got nothing done nothing to fix that. We will do nothing to fix it. At the infantry level, and certainly I'm speaking for the Marine Corps, we are hopelessly inadequately trained. I know that sounds like blasphemy, but the Marine Rifle Squad operates in much the same way it did 20 years ago. It's no more lethal, has the same weapon systems, that the use of drones is an afterthought if they use them at all. You know, we really need to, we really need to wake up.

Will we? I don't know. Another aspect of this is controlling the transfer of technology, right? We as a country, legislation, whatever we need to do, we need to ensure that we're not only, capitalizing on the technological advantages, but we're doing everything we can to prevent our adversaries from, because, you know, let's face it, they generally, their plan, China, I'm talking about specifically, is let the Americans develop it, innovate it, and then we're going to steal it, and then mass produce it. We've got to make sure that we cut that chain, right? And one of the ways to do that is to work with your allies. I know it's not the popular

approach right now, but we can do that if we work with our allies. And, unfortunately, important to point out, you know, if you look at where the hubs in the United States are for technological advantage or advancement, I should say, it's in Northern California and around Boston. Why? Because that's what the universities that produce the best of the best are coming out of. We need to ensure that that continues. Like whatever political issues, you know, between the administration and I'll leave that to the political folks. But from a military standpoint, we want. the best and the brightest come to the United States, and we want to take them. We want to basically steal them, and I don't mean to tell that thing. But, you know, if you look at the top 10, you know,

tech companies in the United States, I just heard this morning, five of them are run by immigrants in the United States. I mean, just go down a list. I mean, hell, Elon Musk, right? Let's try to get the best talent in the world the right way by lowering the United States for the best education to keep it.

Right? So this is all tied together. It's not a separate thing. It's not just an economic issue. It's about the preservation of our advantage and our nation's security. Yeah, right on. A couple things to note. Early on a couple hours ago, Axios was reporting that the Trump administration was notified of this attack, and they've retracted. The administration wasn't notified until after this went down. So, you know, there's just disinformation running rampant for sure, like everywhere. everyone's going to get caught up in it because this is happening so fast i feel like the last time this was like it's such an insane sabotage clandestine covert op was uh israel and the pages

with hesbolo i guess shocking wise right like um yeah uh but this is i mean the scale of this is is yeah in fact yes that's right we were astounded a few months ago at the sophistication of that operation and now and now it seems like a i mean the They can't replace those aircraft. Like, they probably don't even have the assembly lines to make new ones still because they're, you know, they built them in the 60s and 70s or probably before then. Also, another one, there's some chirping going on in like the Russia telegram world about, like, how this opens up the possibility of a nuclear, tactical nuclear retaliation.

What do you, I think it's bullshit. What are your thoughts on that? I agree that it's bullshit. I don't think it's going to happen. I mean, if they're going to do it, they're going to do it. Here's the thing. They're always going to say they're going to use nukes. So what is Ukraine not supposed to win because they might use nukes?

Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, it'd be horrible if they do. But you're in it to win it. So you take every possible chance you've got to put them on their heels. Absolutely. And if they use nuclear weapons, even technical, you know, so low yield, it's going to spread into Poland. and I think should be considered

an attack on NATO. Yeah. You got to assume that, like, talking about before we were talking about, like, learning the tactics and what's going on now in the war in Ukraine, like, we should be, like, at, you know, learning this stuff as the U.S. military. You have to assume Poland is, like, hoovering this information up, right?

Like, because they're on the front line right there with Belarus and stuff like that. Like, they need to be gearing up for it, if it would ever happen. Well, you saw General, Patraeus, I think this week talking about he thinks Lithuania is next.

Right? So if we don't assist Ukraine and winning this, it's going to spread. It's pretty obvious and it's time for action. Less words, more action. Yeah, I absolutely agree.

I mean, when I coached and played football, there was a mantra that we used. Their weakness is our weakness. So we could be great, have the best defense in the state, but all it takes is one misstep coupled with that hubris of we have the best

defense in the state, and now we're them. We've made the same mistakes they are, and we're getting our asses handed to us. So I think, like you said, some sort of consortium, something needs to be looked at in the United States, take a step back and say, where are we vulnerable? Because if you think about

it, it was a great special operation that were able to smuggle these trucks in and pull this operation off. But think about here in the United States, trucks drive everywhere freely. You know, so, and I'm an aircraft geek, and I'm always looking at videos of, they call them plane spotters, who will sit outside of military bases and freely take pictures of these planes taking off and landing and everything. So what says that this couldn't happen here? You know, we need to definitely get off our heart at horse and take a look back and say, you know, take a step back

and say, where are we vulnerable in this same way? I mean, Putin's been threatening nuclear escalation since the beginning of the war. You know, frankly, what do you think is holding him back? It's not the goodness of his heart. It's not that, oh, yeah, hey, I would do it, but I'm too nice a guy. He's not doing it because he knows what's going to happen in return. And we haven't figured that out with it. You know, all the Russian sympathizes on the left and the right here.

Constantly refer, we're on the break of the Third World War. you know, whoever it is under Biden, it was the right wing accusing him of bringing us to that, and now there's concern that, there's accusations that Zelensky is doing that. Well, no.

It's like, A, Russian is the aggressor, by the way. It doesn't matter how we want to try and twist history. Russia is the aggressor. And B, Russia is not motivated by any feeling of benevolence towards the global world order.

Putin doesn't care about casualties, even his own. If he has not used nuclear weapons yet, it's because he is shit scared that they're going to be used against him too, and which will precipitate his downfall. I mean, that is so obvious, it's just amazing that we have to explain it on this show. But as you described the show, really, the level that we're pitching is to cater for those who like the obvious being explained to them. I would say we're going to lose listeners after that, but no, no, they're going to come out of the woodwork.

now. There was also like a thread of thought that what went down in the Russian telegram world about how this was there Pearl Harbor. It's like guys, are we fucking living in the same world? Like Andy just said, Russia is by far and away without a shadow of doubt the fucking aggressor here. Yeah. So for them to be getting their... It's like Pearl Harbor if we invaded Japan first.

Right. And then they fought back and blew up Pearl Harbor. then it would be like yeah uh anything else on this guys i mean it's a pretty unprecedented thing i know it's going on all day we've all been on our phones while we've been doing this looking at like any updates and stuff like that i still want to try to have alex on at some point talk about the aircraft losses the yeah he would be great alex is uh of course air power sandbox news he's uh the you know an expert on aviation i would say military aviation um i mean Do we even talk about anything else here than this?

Because this is just the first thing that popped off and is insane. No, I think this is it. Yeah. I mean, and I think, as usual, you know, there's normally about these things. There's a flood of information. And then there's going to be a little bit of a gap. And then we'll get more. We'll probably hear whether or not the – we'll get a little more clarity on which Russian bases were hit.

You know, what we do know is roughly – the order of magnitude of aircraft destroyed because there's been very clear videos of it and all these bloggers and geeks who follow this stuff on Twitter have been counting them. And by the way, so if you notice on all the FPV drones, and Alex will explain this, it's probably a very obvious point to Alex. But again, you know, I've made a career out of stating the obvious. But the FPVs are being driven right into the wing route. Have you noticed like the same place every aircraft?

And apparently that is, you know, if you're going to do a single strike on an aircraft, that's the best place to head. And the fact that, as you guys pointed out, $400 drone, can do that damage just by striking at that one point. Is there a possibility you think that they had like, they were the fiber optic ones, but the fiber optics were connected to the actual cab of the truck? No, right?

Probably not. So how are they controlling it still deep into Russia? That's the wild thing. That's what I don't understand. And the fiber optic connected to the truck wouldn't make any sense because the ground, the fiber optics is supposed to connect to control. Yeah, right, right. Sorry.

I mean, that is a complete unknown. I haven't heard of FBVs being controlled from that kind of distance. I mean, if we're talking, if we're really talking, I think it must be an exaggeration. where someone said 4,000 clicks in for one of these bases. But if we're talking 1,000... If we're talking to 1,800 clicks, yeah. Unprecedented, right?

No, these drones are, like, their range is like 50 kilometers. It's not super, like, long. Isn't the base like 4,000? Yeah, it's like 4,300 clicks. So they must have had somebody on the ground. Maybe not on the truck or in the truck, but somebody was on the ground. I don't know.

I don't know, D. I mean, obviously, they had... someone on the ground to get this all set up. But they would have had to have, I mean, these are multiple, these are, you know, dozens of operators, right? And so putting them on the ground would make them supremely vulnerable. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. So it makes sense that they were not on the ground, but how they're doing this is. Yeah. So there was a picture of the gentleman you mentioned who runs the GUR. He was looking at, it looked like a map of one of the bases.

It could be possible with the right amount of intelligence and the right, you know, knowing exactly where the stuff is, like maybe they pre-programmed these drones to where to fly to. Yeah, it's possible. Absolutely. Maybe except they're getting live feed from them, right? Yeah. So you have a connection somehow, yeah.

Yeah. So there is a connection. Yeah. And, I mean, again, we probably won't find out all the technical details, but it Again, here we are the most sophisticated nation in the world. I can't imagine us pulling something off like this. Mick and you? I mean, I know probably we had a much better chance when you were still at the agency.

I don't know. How about the most technically capable guy? But I mean, this, I think right now we need to be planning so that we can pull something like us off. Absolutely, 100%. I imagine that's not just the Marine Rifle Squad that's behind the power of on this I imagine you could probably even say J-Soc and my old group special activities needs to need to take suck up every piece of lesson learned that's going on in Ukraine right now and start figuring out how to use it use it in practical applications preparing now

yeah the the aviation geek in me took this operation and put it into terms that the of the the U.S. say 30 years ago, even back during Vietnam, and an operation of this sort, the aircraft that would have had to have been used, the manned aircraft, it's astounding that they were able to do this. And not just do this, but the videos that I'm seeing are from a reconnaissance drone that flew over during and after the attack and untouched was able to get over these airfields, take close up pictures of the damage. Actually, I saw one where it was flying right by.

behind one of the attack drones and watched it climb up and then dive right into, as Andy said, the wing route of an aircraft and destroy it, and then it just flew right over and kept recording. So the amount of manned aircraft that that would have taken is, it's astounding that they were able to pull this off. Okay, guys, so I can't verify this, but I got a message in answer to, so 300, so it's 150 small attack drones and 300 munitions, right? And 116 drones were launched.

Get this. The drones were controlled via Russian telecommunications networks with automated guidance systems. So I'm going to need someone to explain that a little bit more to me because they've got automated guidance systems. I suppose that's as a backup. Can you, I mean, tunneling, so I suppose they tunneled into Russian telegrams.

communications networks to control these things. I mean, that's incredible. That's unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that totally beats having, you know, 12 or so guys on the ground. We're controlling these that are within 20 kilometers of what's going on. And I suppose, you know, another point that this really has emphasized is how, I mean, there are layers, I'm sure, there are, there will, of course, be an integrated air defense system. for every single one of those bases, right?

And layers of anti-air defense, I mean, SAMS systems, EW, and, of course, patrols. And yet, there was no early warning, or if there was, it was too late. And we're not seeing anything, any reports of any of these things being shot down, which just shows what a difficult task it is when you've got a small, quadcopter or multiple small quadcopters that can simply overwhelm a system like that, they're operating at a low altitude, and they're operating a short distance. You know, there's just no, IATs isn't configured, no IATs is configured to defend against that

kind of threat. But I love, I love the fact of that trucks were used for this, commercial trucks, and it's so effective. And I do, you know, I'm not going to bang on about aircraft carriers again but it really is a stark contrast and illustrates for us what 21st century warfare should look like and it doesn't look anything like what we're doing and also the ripple effect of this the mistrust that this is going to sew inside of russia i mean any truck on the road now could be carrying these things so every driver's under scrutiny uh the people who as you just uh pointed out Andy who are in charge of air defense, they're under scrutiny, all this stuff. So the ripple effect is a big win for the Ukrainian.

So I'm going to have to jump in four minutes. All right. ABC breaking in. Mick, we've told you before about your priorities. Yeah. My God. Let's show you that this is a usually don't do this on the weekend. So this is a, I think.

Yeah, this is a hot topic. Yeah. This is a big deal. Yeah, maybe. See, we need to get out. We need to get our version out first before we'll get this out right away. Yeah. You pay them more, right?

We had more to talk about too, but this is kind of dominated. Yeah. We got Gaza going on. We got the ceasefire rejection by Hamas. By the way, if I could put a plug in. No media station should put out that Hamas accepted a ceasefire if they changed the terms. It's just common sense, right? you can't say I accept your offer to buy a car

when you were trying to sell it for 5,000 and I come back and say I'll buy it for 3,000 it's a rejection of the offer and then it gets everybody all excited for good reason because we'd all like to see a siegefire and then they have to go well it's not really an acceptant they said that the war has to end

and the IDF has to withdraw so I would ask all media not just the U.S. not do that explain that they rejected the offer. That's the problem. They want to get their headline out first and their tweet out first. That's all they really give a shit about.

Hey, Dee, I'm sending you something that you should put in the chat when we put this out. I mean, there's some crazy video here. But check out the one I just sent you. Tell me if you think that's real. I mean, apparently it is, but it just looks insane. No, it can't be real. But it's a picture of drones actually launching from the truck. Uh,

to stop. It's like sci-fi, right? Yeah. I mean, it's, uh, let me make sure, let me make sure this is the right tweet you sent me.

Yeah, that's funny. You're funny, Andy. I will put this in there. Andy doing a little shit talking. That's hilarious. All right.

All right. Guys, get out of here. Have a happy Sunday, everybody as well. Obviously, we'll have more information on this as in the next couple days. Maybe we'll do a something on Wednesday.

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