The Team House - US Oks ATACMS use in Russia & Trumps Nat Sec Nominees | EYES ON PODCAST

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

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I mean, the UK, like, pretty early on in the war, it was interesting. While we were kind of stutter stepping, I remember pretty clearly, it might have been like the British foreign minister or something like that. He's asked a question of press conference. Like, if the Ukrainians use British supplied missiles and lob them into Russia, like, what's our stance on that? What's, what's the, you know, Britain's policy about this? And the guy was like, I mean, if Ukraine decides to do what they're going to decide

do with the missiles. That's their problem. It's like totally hands off. And that was like within, you know, the first like four or five months of the war. So, I mean, it shows how long it took for us for big bad America to get to that point. But I think it's hilarious that what was it like, D, it must have been two years ago when I ran my article about the sabotage teams. Yeah, it was just, it was almost probably two years ago. It was like December of 20. And when I wrote that, all these people clutching their pearls, oh, Jack Murphy, how dare you accuse our government of doing something so dastardly that would never happen this blah, blah, blah, blah.

Well, here we are two years later and we're doing it openly. Like, it's not, it's not clandestine sabotage teams. We're just saying straight up, we're going to give the Ukrainians ballistic missiles and they're going to lob them into Russia. It's not even secret. So I don't know. It's just wild the way. And I predicted it back then too. I was like,

you're going to see it happen in baby steps where this thing I'm saying that's controversial right now is just going to be an open secret. And when you bring it up, people are just going to look at you like you're weird. Like so everyone knows that. What's the big deal? Yeah.

It's so common place. Yeah. That's crazy. All right. So let's start. I'm going to try and squeeze that in because that was a good bit. Welcome to Eyes On. What does Andy do?

Yeah, I'm Andy Milburn. You sound like Andy Milburn. Thank you. Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Ozzone. Hello, mate. Jack Murphy, of course, our fearless leader, Team House podcast, Highside,

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All the links are in the description. Great job, Jack. Thanks for super smooth. segue. You want to, oh, just before we jump right into the hard news, I mean, on that note, you know, the three of us were all at that event. Was it just a time flies so quickly. It was just last weekend, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, we, we had an event in New Jersey and Hackensack that triple-a-a-d-d-design was kind enough to host and have me there as the speaker. And my friends were nice enough to take pity on me and show up for it. So, Dmitri was there and Jason.

and a few other people that we know. But it was a really nice event, and it was really nice to meet some of the folks that came out. And, you know, the topic was, you know, talking about the book that Dee had mentioned that's coming out in like two and a half weeks now. Oh, wow. It's coming up.

Yeah. Yeah, it's coming up fast. Yeah, it was a good time. It was a really great time, man, meeting some people and hearing. I mean, I've heard the stories from you and, you know, some of the background stuff, but some of the questions at the host ass were ones that I hadn't thought of. So it was really good time.

And then you want to tell them about the barbecue place or did, did Tripp tell you the backstory of that place? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was talking about the guys like an impromptu and envoy between us and North Korea. Is that right? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. This barbecue joint in New Jersey. And the owner is like, yeah, some sort of back channel between the United States and North Korea. There's an article. and I think it's in Vanity Fair about it. I'll be honest.

When he told me about it, and then when we were sitting down eating, I'm looking at the walls, you know, and there's articles and stuff. And I'm probably going to get hammered for this, but I expected this to be a Korean guy. So did I. Yeah.

And then when he walked out and I glanced over, I'm like, oh my God, it's this tall like white guy. Yeah. I was like, oh, my God. Yeah. So I'd love to know the story of how that came to be. I don't know if I was racial profiling,

but when I walked that back to him, I was looking at the people sitting and eating. There were a couple like, like, I don't know if they were Korean or not. So I'm definitely being on the edge of being racist, but they were Asian people. And I was like, maybe those are like Korean DPRK fucking agents and some shit. Staking out the barbecue joint or I was just racial profiling. The thing with the North Koreans is like you can't, you can't put anything past them. That place is so strange.

You can't put it past them. Like, I don't really worry about the Russians coming after me. I'm not important enough to be come after, you know, like, why would they bother? But like North Korea, like, yeah, some of these guys are kind of kind of weird. Yeah, we haven't whacked anybody in a while. Let's go see if we're Jack Murphy's at. Yeah, we haven't been in the news. Maybe I'm just like the low hanging fruit.

It's like, oh, this guy's easy. You know, we just run him down with a car as he's, you know, walking to his place or something. Yeah, and he's coming to the place where we do like meetings anyway. So it's like making it pretty easy. Yeah, this is the new guy. So, yeah, getting into like the, I mean, there's a lot going on. I think I want to kick off with the Biden administration, O'K, Ukraine, to use attack them's and other missiles in Russia. UK and France did the same thing, which storm shadows and scalps.

And Russia came back. I don't know if they were planning this, but they supposedly changed their nuclear doctrine where, like, if they're hit by NATO missiles, they reserve the right to either, like, use WMDs on Kiev or other. targets. I'm assuming they're talking about Eastern Europe and areas like that. Yeah. What are you guys thinking about that? Why now? Why do you think Biden's letting it off the chain now? Because it's been this incremental thing from the get-go. I feel like it's something that's been coming down the pipe anyway. And I think now that he's a lame duck president, it's just

you know, he wants to get it out there before Trump takes over and puts the kibosh on it. You know, who knows? What about you, Jay? I mean, this is going to sound rather hawkish. And, you know, throughout this entire war, we've heard all this stuff about escalation and red lines and off ramps and etc., etc.

And a lot of the theory behind that that has existed since, you know, the dawn of the Cold War has been tested and basically thrown out the window. as near as I can tell. I mean, I think that we got to pull their punk card. I think that, you know, Putin, that punk-ass bitch isn't going to do shit. I think the Ukrainians can lob ballistic missiles in. And I don't think Putin has the balls to do it. I don't think he has the balls.

And that's what some of this comes down to. Like, there is international brinksmanship involved in this. You know, during the Cuban missile crisis and a few other times during the Cold War, the national security advisors and the president are essentially staring down the barrel of a gun. And they're saying, do something, bitch. I mean, that's, I know that's simplified and in crass, but I mean, there's something to that. And, you know, the political science, maybe the more nice way to put it is in political science, they call it like a fait accompli, which means, you know, you're basically playing chicken with them. Like, I'm going to do this. What are you going to do about it? And that's what a lot of

these um actions that we've taken and that ukraine takes that could be described as provocative i mean that's what they are essentially i mean you're you're checking their aggression saying well what the fuck are you going to do about it and we've seen what they're willing to do and what they're not willing to do they're willing to play footsie with the north koreans and use them as cannon fodder but they're not willing to cross that wmd line yeah i think they know the outcome of that would that would be so yeah yeah yeah that that would drag nado directly into the conflict um for starters um if not if you don't end up having some sort of limited nuclear exchange in eastern europe and the russians don't want that any more than we do um so yeah i i don't i don't i just don't see it happening

yeah i'm willing to bet that uh putin's not even uh willing to authorize uh use of non nuclear weapons into a native country, not even nuclear weapons, like tip for tat, say, well, now we can launch and hit Poland if we think you're staging there. Right. I don't think he has the balls to do that. Yeah. You're right that you haven't seen that happen yet. We've seen, you know, acts of sabotage, you know, like GRU type stuff in Europe, but that's about as far as they've gone with it so far. Yeah. I mean, you know, someone told me very early on in the war, Putin has a nowhere else to escalate this thing. And I think that's true. Like we've just what has the escalation been? He's just been throwing more and more bodies at it. And Russia has the advantage of having

that deep magazine, so to speak, that they can draw on all these. I mean, I'm sorry, they're human beings, but they're used as cannon fodder, unfortunately. And you saw that play out in 1936 when the Nazis invaded and the Nazis achieved very quick strategic victories over the Russians, was like kicking their ass. But over time, the USSR was able to mobilize a large number of personnel and fight back. And they did successfully. A little bit of more of like some sabotage going on in Northern Europe. Did you guys see the report about a Chinese ship cutting a communications line between Finland?

I saw something about it. Yeah. So like supposedly right now, three Navy ships are converging on the Chinese vessels, suspecting the cutting communications. This is about 30 minutes ago. Three U.S. Navy? No, three Danish Navy ships. You wonder if they cut it, like an act of sabotage,

or you got to wonder if they were trying to tap it and they fucked it up. I would think probably tap it. Yeah. And they fucked up and cut it accidentally. And this is as of like 10, 13 a.m. on the 19th of November that this is going on right now. So there'll probably be more information as, a day goes on.

Was it Finland? Who was it that recently found a, like a shit ton of surveillance equipment outside their bases? Was that Finland? One of them. I haven't heard that one. Yeah, one of them over there in the last couple weeks

is just keep finding all sorts of surveillance and electronic disruption equipment outside of their bases. And they're trying, I mean, I'm pretty sure we all know who it is. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Crazy. Yeah, the Chinese Vessels

called a new new polar bear destroyed it i mean this one says an undersea gas pipeline i don't know if it's a pipeline between finland and estonia oh this is last year sorry i'm just fucking so the telelines yeah the telecon cable that they they cut connects finland germany and sweden lithuania yeah shit okay yeah that's a pretty important one yeah yeah why waters those are dangerous waters to be fucking around. I was going to say. Yeah. And they used to have to send dive teams, right?

Or like a submergeable at the least. I mean, yeah, there are a couple of different ways you can go about tapping fiber under sea fiber. And then one of them is, yeah, submarines. And, you know, you can, we have, allegedly, we have one submarine where you can open up, like, the doors, the bay doors on the bottom of it and bring the cable up into it and work on it. or you can saturation divers locking out of the submarines or coming down from a boat maybe and then the third one if you can usually this is implausible for espionage where you put like a like a raft underneath the cable and then inflate it and it like lifts the cable up above the water and then you can fuck with it up there and then bring it back down but if you're trying

to do something in secret normally that's not going to be an option yeah yeah crazy Yeah, all right. So there's a couple more news items. I mean, Hamas moved their political operation to Turkey because they got booted out of Qatar. There's already reports I saw like about like Israeli, you know, government officials going to Turkey to try and continue this negotiation. I mean, in my opinion, I don't really see the negotiation going fucking anywhere. Yeah. Also, I mean, I mean.

Turkey is a NATO a NATO country. I mean, I don't know if that changes things or what. Um, also does it does it like give the Israelis and Musad like a green light on these guys? Like, does it change anything? Inside of Turkey. Inside of Turkey.

Yeah. I would say probably not. But I mean, how long has that ever stopped them before? Yeah. I don't know. Because I always, when it comes to Turkey and NATO, I always use the air quotes because, yeah, they're an ally, but, you know, they kind of do their own thing and stir up their own trouble. And I just don't see them being very hospitable with Israel doing some kind of shenanigans inside of their border. But there are a lot of shenanigans that go on in Turkey. You know, there's so for instance, this came out in like a newsletter.

And I found out that it's actually true. In Turkey, a couple FBI agents got hit with Havana syndrome on the beach. And it was two operatives running it. And the interesting part was these Russian operatives that were running the device were being tailed by Turkish MIT, unbeknownst to them. And they recorded the entire attack. And I'm told I'm told the recording is pretty bad. like the FBI agents, kids are there and they start freaking the fuck out on the beach.

Oh, and so that happened, uh, because it happened to our people and, and because I guess we were monitoring the situation, we got wind that MIT had this recording. And I've been told that the national security agency hacked into MIT and stole the video and that we now have it.

Wow. Don't worry about giving it to us. We have it. Yeah. Don't worry about like, intelligence cooperation. And I mean, the Russians hire like Chechens and mafia dudes

and all kinds of people to like whack dudes in Istanbul. But yeah, I mean, moving the negotiations from Qatar to Istanbul, I don't see any like big difference there either. If somebody's going to try to pull something, they're going to try to do it anyway. You know,

Turkey being a NATO country, that plays into the stuff with Russia. but I don't think it's going to play significantly into the Palestine-Israeli conflict. Yeah. All right. So the other thing I wanted to talk about is a Trump national security nominees. Oh, boy. And how I know, I know.

I get it. It's a little, it's a little third railie. But I mean, just national security, because we talk about national security and geopolitics here and that's obviously going to affect it. You know, Pete Hickspeth for the Secretary of Defense, Gabbard, Tulsi Gabbard is the Director of National Intelligence. And, I mean, Gates less so, like, I guess as the AG, but I mean, he does have oversight on the FBI and stuff like that.

So what do you guys think? Do they get to confirm, too? Because there's a lot of chirping going on in terms of like, especially Gates, because, you know, there was a house, house ethic. committee house ethics report coming out about him sleeping on their age girls um so i i have seen him on um armed service committee hearings where i mean it'll be and when you watch them streamed it's sort of like a zoom call like this and you know you have these series of politicians and they'll talk about the military veterans issues you know things like this and then you get to that dude

and he's just looking at the camera ranting like he's doing one of the like Facebook from the front seat of your pickup truck kind of videos, just like screaming into the camp. That guy should, yeah, that dude should be maybe running a car wash in New Jersey or something like that. People like that don't have any business being around politics. Yeah. Yeah. For me, the big thing, the broad thing is the story that the incoming administration is

looking to have some or all of their nominees be exact. from background checks, security check? Yeah, the FBI, yeah. Supposedly they said that they're doing it through private firms. Yeah. And since Father Andy is not here, we can curse. The bullshit with that is if you hire the people who are doing your background checks, they have a greater incentive to not find anything or to find favorably for you.

So I don't know the legality of it. I have no idea. I do know that some agencies use contractors to do their background checks, but just exempting them altogether is absolute and utter bullshit. And of course, you see the prerequisite sword fighting amongst the right and the left. I'm talking people like on Twitter or, you know, other social media about the picks. But everyone should agree that it's in our. national interest or national security interest to make sure that they are fully vetted and

anything that comes up their process stops until it's either cleared up or they're told it's a no-go yeah it's always interesting how this like vetting thing like the you know vetting is either a good thing or a bad thing depending on whether or not you like the guy you know if it's somebody you really have a hard on for then the vetting is a bad thing you shouldn't vet the guy but i mean that same person if it's like some lefty you know some antifa guy that's going to be uh brought into the government and given a national security position of course the right's going to be like he's unvetted he needs to be vetted he needs it you need to go into his whole background and yes you do you do need to go into his whole background you know and and people you know like the example i'm giving some antifa

guy should not be in government like i don't have any problem saying that yeah yeah it's i mean and then putting people in positions like the Gates thing position, putting the Fox in charge of the henhouse, you know, when you're being investigated, that was just, to me, it just seems like a big F you. It's just like an FU kind of thing along with a, you know, who's been good to me. I'll give you a spot, you know, and I know we're trying not to, you know, lean into the political side of it here, but when it comes to national security, this shit is important. You know, and it will bite us in the ass later on if they don't vet these people correctly. Because I've seen it.

I've seen it in, you know, at my time at the agency, even while you're in a Marine Corps. You see people all the time. I don't know how often it happens now. And this is not me speaking ill of the Marine Corps. But when I first in 1999, when I got to Japan, we had a Marine who was supposed to be, or I think he had just left Japan, got back to his unit in, California and someone in the comments, I'm sure can correct me on this. And apparently he was in a gang. He had been groomed to join the Marine Corps so you get the training and all.

And he ended up, there were two incidents actually. This guy ended up killing his CO and wounding the ops officer. He shot him right in the office. I think he was going to mask or something, you know, NJP or whatever. And then another guy, and there's a video of it, if we can find it, I'll try to post it. This guy took his training and I think he was Army and basically called the police, said, hey, this is where I am. I have a gun.

They show up. He just freaking unleashes on them. And I think he killed one or two of the cops before they ended up killing him. So if you don't vet these people correctly, I'm not going to say that that's what's going to happen, but it has national security implications. Yeah. And I mean, like even for Secretary of Defense, like the guy, Hickspeth, like, he's, like, he was in the National Guard and stuff like that for 20 plus years.

I get it and I respect that. But like, does that end? And you're a weekend host of Fox and friends. Like, does that qualify you to run a department that has what like multiple millions of people that are working for it and like a budget that is astronomical that is trillions a trillion dollars? I'm not an expert. I'm going to say no. Yeah. I've met Pete before.

on the set of the Fox Morning Show, actually. And he cornered me and for like 10 minutes tried to tell me about how great a guy Eddie Gallagher is and that he did nothing wrong. And this was during when the court martial was still going on. And I was like, well, he's innocent until proven guilty. You're right, Pete.

But you know, there's some sketchy stuff going on here too. You know, all along that the court martial and the way he was prosecuted was sketchy too. Don't get me wrong. There were some things that should not have happened there. But yeah, I think that maybe Pete really wants to be well liked by the veteran community, maybe a little bit too much. And Trump has a little bit of that in him too, doesn't he? That he wants to exempt people from certain things, that he wants to pardon people, that he wants to shut down court marshals of people.

And maybe he thinks like that's a pro-military or pro-veteran thing. But I don't necessarily see it that way. there has to be some accountability right yeah absolutely i mean i i don't know him personally but i mean his his background and his record are impressive but i don't believe that it's impressive enough for him to be running uh the entire military especially when it seems that he has come in with an agenda anyway about the whole all anti-woke thing and um you know and all that other stuff when it when it seems like that's going to be his focus. And also, too, I'm kind of leery of anyone who, and I just, I heard it twice on a two different podcast yesterday. Someone said that they were a recovering,

two people said that they were recovering neocons. And, you know, they bought into the whole, you know, 20 years of war, I guess by, you know, year 15 of it in Afghanistan. They're like, what the hell will be doing here, which I understand completely and agree with. But now all of a sudden, it's, you know, whatever one side does, the other side has to do the opposite. Even if they do agree that we should be somewhere, it's like, well, I'm not going to say it because I'm not going to agree with that side. And it's like five-year-olds playing on a swing set. It's just ridiculous. Well, you know what that, that it's called Jason. That's an oligarchy. That's when you have one side that when you try to convince, you know, them of something that the other side doesn't

believe in, they are automatically decon, you know, if one side is convinced, the other is automatically deconvanced and vice versa. That's the problem. And nothing gets done in a system like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. The last one is Tulsi Gabbard for Director of National Intelligence. Obviously, Gabbard was a former Democratic congressperson. I think for three terms, ran for president, Democratic Party, then, you know, made the switch of route to Trump side. And has recently, I think, just registered as a Republican, thoughts and comments about Tulsi. I mean, I think Tulsi would be a clear and present danger to the United States as the director of national intelligence. Her politics are obscurest and bizarre at times.

She speaks in glittering generalities about peace, which are just not congruent with international relations or America's place in the world. I just think she's out in la-la land and definitely not qualified for the position. Yeah, I agree. Normally with anyone else, I would say, like in a DNI position, DCIA position, things like that. A lot of times, and it's done by design, you want someone who does not necessarily have an intelligence background, you know, George HW was DCIA and I think that's to keep that buffer. You know, you don't want people running along party lines full tilt when they come in. But I think I agree with Jack that her history is just too sketchy.

Her history with China, with Russia, with, you know, again, these things have national security implications. can say all they want whoever supports her that you know she's got an exemplary record military and also that's great that's all well and good but if there's even a question and anyone on the lowest level like i was of intelligence or or federal service knows if there's even a slight question in your background even if it's you know innocent until proven guilty that halts everything and there's enough to say no like if it's inconclusive on a polly that's enough for the adjudicated to say, sorry, but no. So especially in these high-level positions, it should be enough to say no. It's fascinating to me to see how much, like, culturally we have changed over

the last, like, maybe just the last 10 years, but certainly over the last 20 years. And I'm sure you remember, Jason, you know, there were like serious concerns about Bill Clinton running for president because he was a draft dodger. He didn't serve in Vietnam. You know, he's a draft dodger you can't have a president that dodges the draft and now we've come to this point where not only is it okay for you to have dodged the draft but i mean you can have like a human trafficking investigation on you and all this all these like weird associations with russia and syria and china and it's like it's okay it's all right yeah because we become so entrenched in um identity politics it becomes who we are that we are willingly we are willingly ignorant

and able to say, hit me in the face of the facts, I'm just going to wipe them off, ignore them, and, you know, still support whoever it is. Yeah, and I think sometimes people don't, it's a more nuanced conversation. Like you can be anti-war. And I know anti-war people on the left and the right who are kind of like, we're kind of done with this, right?

Maybe for different ideological reasons, but whatever the case, they're like, you know, they sort of like bring the troops home kind of mentality. And I mean, I think it's perfectly good and okay and healthy to question America's role in the world and what we're doing. Like some of the things we do definitely need a sanity check. Like, what are we doing here? You know? Absolutely.

But this crew, I mean, installing a freak show into the National Security Council is not going to help that effort. It's going to make things substantially worse. Yeah. Absolutely. I agree. And that goes for the left, too. when you know when with Biden in office now with the whole inclusiveness and also which I'm I'm all for you know and there but there are limits to everything I think if um if they had tried to do these things let's I'm speaking the military specifically if they had tried to do these things piecemeal and not you know shove it you know to turn on the fire hose it probably would have worked a little bit better with the integration but now that's when you give rise to people like Pete Hegseth who are saying, I am going full bore the complete opposite way, you know.

And then the issues that's going to cause is going to degrade from our readiness, you know, and again, has national security in cases because I think I said this UD in the chat that our enemies are just sitting back and let's just watching us do it to ourselves. And they're like, this is perfect. You know, they get to come in and stir the pot a little bit, but we're doing it to ourselves. yeah i mean when it's it's interesting like whether you're forward or against it like the what is the the main narrative um becomes about like d i and i'm not even sure to this day what the hell die i actually is other than like a plus word yeah um but like shouldn't our priority be like combat reform intelligence reform like i look at like you know the infantry like we should have the most the lightest, most agile, lethal infantry in the world. And I'm just putting the infantry up on a pedestal because that's what I believe. But there are many, many things in the military that we can improve upon. You know, Mattest was on the right course with business reform at the

Pentagon. That's a huge, huge thing that affects the military readiness, lethality. And it affects what's done with your taxpayer dollars. And it's shameful that we're focused on like pretend shit. culture war stuff as opposed to preparing to win the next big war, which we may very well be walking right into as of now. Agreed. Yeah, I mean, there's, who's the DC, Rick Rennell? Or is it John Rackcliffe? I think it's John Rackle for DCI.

I mean, that, I mean, he seems like whatever, like, okay, pig, like he'll be confirmed. There's no real, like, outstanding issues with him. Yeah, and then that's one other thing, like just before we move on that we should mention, like, all of this is up in the air. Sure, they're nominees. Yeah. And, you know, my, my impression of President Elect Trump is that he likes to run the government like a game show. Like, tune in next week, see who it's going to be.

What's going to happen next? You know, that's kind of like the process, if you could call it that, that he goes through. So, like, I'm not even ready to get too upset about any of these nominees. That's also a good point, yeah, Jack, because you see it reported and you kind of see it probably not so much reported in mainstream. Like they probably use the word nominees, but like everywhere else like on Twitter, it's like he's the guy or she's the guy. You know what I mean? Like they're in the position, no question about it. I know Gates is getting a lot of pushback from the Senate.

Hex bet to a bit. I mean, there was talk a little bit about recess appointments. I think they kind of killed that like Mitch McConnell. and Thune, like, kind of killed that, who's coming in to be the majority leader in the Senate. So I don't know if that's going to really happen. I mean, those confirmation hearings will be spicy, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah, we'll definitely be talking about those.

Yeah, especially for Gabbard. I mean, even Hexpeth, man. Like, I'm sure he's fine. I'm sure he's good on TV and he was a good soldier or whatever, but. Bro, running the second. I mean, maybe do some time as like a deputy or an assistant. You know what I mean? Like have some like kind of, you know, under secretary of this or that.

You know, work your way up to it a little bit there, man. Yeah. From being a Fox News bro to, you know, being the secretary of defense is a pretty big jump. Yeah. And I could see like where like JFK, who was it when they had like McNameer, like having an executive from from business come in because it's a massive essentially department. That's a trillion dollars. And there's a lot to manage. I could see that making more sense

rather than like, yeah, a Fox News weekend host. I mean, even if it was a CNN weekend host, like if you got me Chris Cuomo or wherever the fuck, like pick your poison on their left, you know, it's just, it's kind of mind-boggling to me. Because I'm going to put my name in. I'm going to put my name in for some kind of position. Hell yes.

Yeah, so it's going to be spicy. see um that's pretty much all i have guys jack tell me about your book again i want to know the book is we defy the lost chapters of special forces history so it's five chapters of special forces history you guessed it uh things that really haven't been written about before a lot of primary research um probably close to 100 interviews um and the book covers detachment a the guys who are undercover in berlin Detachment K, our liaison guys in South Korea. Blue light, the first military counterterrorism team. Greenlight, which was the nuclear sabotage teams.

And then the commanders in extremist force, which were the SF direct action teams that, I mean, they were active all over the world. So those five chapters in the book. I'm really excited to get it out there. It's kind of the culmination of about 10, years of work on and off. So it'd be good to get it out there into the world.

Awesome. Yeah, you could pre-order it now on Kindle or you could on December 9th, you can order a paper back on Amazon. The link will be in the description. Do you guys have anything else? You want to talk about? Anything chapping your crawl or whatever? Hit me.

No, I know we were talking about those drones yesterday. I'm sure some people have seen the Twitter or X videos of these large drones. We don't know whether they're military commercial or what, but they're flying around last night for a couple hours over New Jersey, northern New Jersey. When I was at work and we got about 10 calls in a row about it, they were described as too big to be commercial and they seemed to be military for those who observed it. I did not, but they flew in perfect formation apparently for a couple hours. So they flew over some military sites. I won't name the ones that they were over. But FAA had no idea about them.

And it's still being investigated. So whichever one of you 13-year-olds out there screwing around, we're going to find you. Yeah. Let me ask you, Jay, like, that's all it is. Are there any kind of like, you know, moves that you can make while it's happening to go and find these people? see who's operating these drones like are there any kind of so usually without getting into shit like obviously yeah with us it's tough to find a drone i'm sure that there's a way they can triangulate some sort of signal or something like that that's not something that i do um but usually for us it's like

um uh laser strikes on aircraft that's one thing that happens very commonly i don't know why we get the call for that but um we get the call and then we We will, usually the pilot or aircrew will tell us, hey, it happened generally over this area. And then we will send some folks, I won't say that we are out there in that general area to find them. Let's say if it happens 10 times, like once we will be able to find who it is because they're stupid enough to still be in that area. And usually it's a kid screwing around, you know, shooting, oh, there's an airplane. And then they hit the, you know, the pilot in the face or, you know, the side of the aircraft. or whatever. So as far as the drones are concerned, I would, didn't we have somebody a drone expert on here?

Yeah, we had a Chad McCoy, former 24 STS guy who operates a drone company now. I guess he would know best, you know, can you triangulate a signal, you know. So that's probably how it would happen. Again, the problem is, I guess with the range of some of these things, and especially if it's a larger one, that person could be miles and miles from where it's spotted. you know who knows you got to wonder if uh i mean it's almost like we're losing control of our airspace like we move into a time where uh drone operators are going to have to get a license like you know you do have you have to have to drive a car um you have to have a driver's license you have to

register your car you have to have insurance on it all that stuff um i'm actually surprised that hasn't been instituted already well i know in jersey it uh it has i think it depends on the size of it and how what you're using it for. And then there's, because I heard some of the guys at work talking about it because they get training in it. And they were talking about the course that they have to go through to get certified. Like you can only fly to a certain height and all kinds of stuff. There's all kinds of restrictions. But with these last night, we called the FAA and they had no idea that these things were out there.

So if they're as big as they're supposedly are and they didn't know, that's pretty damn dangerous. Yeah, it is. I do remember like when drones really started getting popular. Like it was kind of like free rain, especially in New York. I get fly drones like whenever, wherever. They've kind of cracked down on it. But again, like, yeah, how if you are flying a drone, how they're really going to get you? Like, yeah, unless they see you actually a cop or somebody sees you operating it.

Well, I was down in a Pensacola a couple months ago back in July for a Blue Angels air show. And afterwards, I saw. a video of some guy flew a drone right up to their level. And you can see the Blue Angels like goes zipping by right underneath this drone. Oh, boy. And so they were able to find the guy. I don't know how, but they found the guy. And, but he, the most he got was a slap on the wrist.

Like, don't do that shit again. That was it. Although he could have caused a major disaster. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. I mean, so I got something on Twitter because I'm looking on Twitter. IAEA report during an IAEA chief Grasse's visit to Tehran, the possibility of Iran not further expanding its stockpile of uranium enriched to up to 60% was discussed.

And IAEA verified on November 16th that Iranist started preparation measures aimed at stopping increase of its stocks of uranium enriched up to 60%. I mean, we've been playing this game for a long time. like how long have we heard about the Iranian bomb? Yeah. And it seems pretty clear that Iran is pursuing a similar policy as like Japan, for instance, that we're going to have the capacity to build a bomb, but we're not going to build it. Right.

They're like they're not going to cross that line. They're going to make you make everyone know, like we can build one if we want to build one, but we're choosing not to right now because you're not fucking with us. Right. Or you're not fucking with us enough. And that seems to be the line. that they want to straddle. And that's how long has that been going on?

Like 20, 25 years? Yeah. Yeah. That's all. There's also kind of like, you can kind of parallel this to Ukraine too. Like if Ukraine loses a bunch of like support and stuff like that, what I know I would take time for them to build up bombs again,

but I mean, they do have that capacity eventually. I mean, I'm sure it would take years. to get it up and cooking where you have like nuclear warheads ready to rock. But if I'm Zelensky or if I'm the Ukrainian government, I'm like, okay, if our support is about to run out or severely, you know, get cut in half essentially with the U.S. getting out, why not build a bomb? Yeah. Right. That's true.

The world's fucked up, guys. It is. Check out Jack's. Check out Jack's new book. We Defy. Secret History of Special Forces. The link is in the description. Out December 9th.

You could pre-order the Kindle now. The link will be in the description. Jason doesn't have any. Do we have anything else? That is not true. Under penalty, threat of maiming for my sister, I am now on a, what's that?

Blue sky. Blue sky. Still don't know what the hell it is, but that's what I'm on. I saw you on there and I didn't know who it was. And I was like, I had to look really hard. You saw the afro. guys, yeah.

Yeah, the afro on the sunglasses, hell yes. I'm in my, uh, Jive Turkey era. Um, and also I'm on LinkedIn too. So, all, cool.

So I'll throw those links in the description in the show notes as well. Um, anything else, guys, hit me with it. Uh, shout out to India for successfully testing a hypersonic missile. Shout out,

India. Bravo. Jack, what are you working on on high side? What's going on? Havana, I'm working on Havanaugh. I'm working on Havanaugh.

syndrome stuff still. The draft of this article is like 25 pages. It's a monster. And I've tried to be pretty laser focused on it. So it's a work in progress. I hope another month or two and I can finally finish this thing because I have stuff to move on to as well. And Sean is still working through the Willie Merkerson series.

And I know he has one more, I think at least one more story about Sudan to write. and then we'll probably be moving on to Willie's time in Angola. They're the covert action program there in the 1980s. And I know there's some fun stories there because I've talked to Willie about it. So that's what's coming. Cool. Cool. Oh, I want to put out a call for support here from the audience.

If anyone knows or has any contacts, Africa or Haiti, Caribbean experts, please hit me up um i feel like these are two areas that have been woefully neglected um and uh you know this shit's still going on over there and down there so uh it's something i would like to talk about what what areas specifically are you interested in there jason um so Haiti specifically in the caribbean um but in africa um i mean there's just so many hot wars you know many hot wars going on there. So if anybody has any kind of contacts, you know, I feel like they've been neglected. People have their own reasons why they're being neglected, but they're going on and they're affecting real people. And with China making huge inroads in Africa, I think it's something

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