The Texan Podcast - Weekly Roundup - April 4, 2025
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Howdy folks and welcome back to Legal Round Bits McKenzie here with Mary Lee's
Cameron and Brad. How are you guys today? I wasn't gonna match you, you got some tan, I just
noticed this tan. Yeah this was intentional. Yeah we actually spoke beforehand.
Well we're matching with you too. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't get the momma. It's a feeling in the same vein.
That's true. This is Brad's signal chat moment. Just like the Trump
administration, he was, he didn't get added to our signal chat. He was the opposite. Yeah, he was the opposite.
Got it. Yeah. Do you go chat on signal? I do. I don't have signal. Well, you should probably get that.
Well, you probably get that. I cannot confirm or deny.
I can avoid situations like that.
If signal tracts have occurred on my phone,
they disappear, so they are not going to be able to track anything I've said.
The number of encrypted apps I've had on my phone at any given time, it's unreal.
Yeah.
Unreal.
Yeah.
What's the one that is orange?
It's an orange app. You can put your finger over it,
and it shows you one line at a time,
and then the message goes away,
and there's no way to see it.
That sounds really sketchy.
It does. I know.
It's confidential. Anyway, there's somebody.
I just route my VPN through another VPN through another VPN using signal and then I send that
signal through a Snapchat message that disappears.
So I'm covered.
I have multiple layers of encryption.
That sounds foolproof.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it might take a while for that Snapchat message to send because there's so many hoops
for it to jump first.
That's the problem.
I don't get messages until 48 hours after they're sent. So I'm late getting updates on things.
Well speaking of, right on time. I was a, I did a panel on Sunday and I've
written to someone, a couple listeners of this Harry Podcast and one of the women who I was
talking to was very sweet, very wonderful.
She had great things to say.
She said initially she doesn't like the banter we have in the beginning and then she said
it adds a great set of color to it.
Was it she doesn't like it or she does?
She used to not like the banter but she that's it okay okay so shoutouts to that person
I'm sorry I forgot there's so many names thrown at me I forgot I forgot her name
but I do remember you and I enjoy talking to them yeah sure yeah you know
it was also the first time I've been to the Lost Pines Resort.
And oh my god, it was insane.
Yeah.
Now I need to go spend, it's only like 10 miles away from me.
Where I live.
It'll be your closed session retreat.
Retreat?
Yeah.
I'll tell Connie and Phil, put it on the company card.
No, company card.
There you go.
I do want to talk about merch madness.
How are things looking for your rackets, folks?
Extremely negative.
As they have been since the beginning.
I have no clue. I just wait for the weekly update
for whoever is checking saying, Cameron, you're doing good here.
You lost here.
Well, Final Four is what, Saturday?
Uh, day the third? good here you lost here well Final Four is what Saturday usually they have the
championship on Monday which is stupid and why do they do this scheduling these
sporting events have the Final Four on Friday and the championship on Sunday
you should write in some payment I should yeah oh when I run for office
which will never happen thankfully thankfully, but we already
talked about once my platform, part of it is eliminating baseball blackouts. Well, this
is now on there too. Get control of the scheduling of these things so kids can watch them instead
of at 9, 8, 9 p.m. out of a school night it's ludicrous so what about what about
the transfer portal does it remain under your administration no kill it kill it
fire killed the fire okay I don't really have a sophisticated we have Holly in
first place who's killing it, doing a great job.
I'm wondering if because from the beginning she said this was the first time doing it,
but I have a hunch that this is not her first time doing it.
Interesting. She is in town and she might stop by today.
So we can ask her very direct questions,
figure out what the truth is.
My bracket is in second and I'm pretty pumped about it.
You know, we do have a significant chance of winning according to the group forecast tab on this website, which may or may not be
solid.
And I've been holding on to that hope for a hot minute, but my dreams could be dashed.
Yeah, very quickly. So, holding on with an open hand. Rob is right behind
third place
We fell in fourth place. You came in fifth place
Cameron is in sixth place
Cameron's in sixth and some Cameron's really got a corner on the market there. Gonna make a late run here
but um
I have 41% chance to win Holly has an 18% chance to win. Phil's got 15.
Rob's 12.
Cameron has 12 as well.
So we'll see.
Brian, where are your brackets?
In the dumpster.
Oh, wow, they are really low.
Oh, my god.
Dang, I didn't think I'd get roasted over this,
but here we are.
You'd put the thing together.
You set up the group and everything, and now here we are.
Roast Stadium. It is slightly deserved, I would say.
Yeah, my performance has been terrible this year.
The only time, the closest I've ever come to winning a Braga pool was when Michigan made the National Championship Game in 2013
when I was a senior in high school.
And I would have won it if Michigan had won, but we didn't.
Lost a little.
And blame it entirely on a terrible call, terrible personal foul call, on what was a
clean block on Patency by Trey Burke.
And they called a foul.
You're remembering all the names.
Of course I do.
Patency versus Mowat, very vividly. by Trey Burke and they call the foul. You're remembering all the names. Of course I do.
He's reversed his moment very vividly.
Under your administration, you'll issue a retroactive executive order to fix that call
and then you will bring together those two teams again and they can replay.
They're all pretty old at this point. Your version of Ruby and Lance Armstrong is Tour de France titles.
Yep.
Yeah, 100%.
Well, good luck guys.
Prove those you have Brackets in the writing.
I really overwin.
Do you have anything to say about Auburn, another fast ride?
I hate Auburn with a burning passion of a thousand
sons and I hope Jaden who is an Auburn grad hears that. Well he's definitely going to. Yeah, he's definitely going to hear that.
Yet is this. He's struggled as a Mac before so I want to give him an opportunity. He deserves all the worst things.
Kyle is very aggressive. Well let's talk news, let's get into it. Brad, if you saw something that was forwarded,
it has not happened in a long time this week.
Bubbling up.
Tell us what happened.
Was this Tuesday?
I think it was Tuesday.
It was Monday.
It was Monday.
I think it was Monday.
Yeah.
OK.
Well, the thing that happened was a member made a motion
to vacate the chair,
being removed the speaker from his position.
That member, of course, was state representative Brian Harrison.
He has been vocally opposed to speaker boroughs in every possible facet he
could conjure up.
It's been a constant barrage aimed at leadership.
could conjure up. You know, it's been a constant barrage aimed at leadership.
And, uh, you know, he went to the back, Mike, he made a string of parliamentary inquiries, which he has done quite a bit during session. Um, usually relating
to the speed at which the house is getting into legislation. Right. Right.
And I think this one specifically was about the first calendar that was set.
And I think this one specifically was about the first calendar that was set. And one of the multiple bills on the calendar was authored by
a Democratic member, Mayhill, please, I forget the number.
But it was one of eight or so, I think, bills that were on the calendar.
The first one of the session, which happened on Tuesday.
So that string questioning eventually led into him
making a motion to vacate the chair.
And so that introduces a very strange parliamentary
sequence of events.
So when you've made it, boroughs refuse to recognize them.
First time, or at least the last time we saw that happen on the floor was
When Tom Craddock was speaker, I think in 07 his last term as speaker of the house
I got a piece on on that specifically from a couple years ago when we thought it might happen
When Tony tenderholt was making a lot of preliminary inquiries from the back Mike
It never did come to fruition, but you
can read about that history back then.
But here, Burroughs refused to recognize him.
And there was some back and forth,
and he eventually told Harrison that such a motion
needs to be made by resolution.
That itself is interesting.
First, when you make a motion to vacate,
that is a privileged motion.
Typically, privileged motions are recognized
ad infinitum, right,
because it's a privilege of the house.
Sometimes you see those given become given
as speeches. You get up and you talk about why X bill sucks or why action is good or
bad right. Now when he's not recognized in the rules in order to challenge the ruling of the chair on that you need 76 signatures 75
seconds which effectively is a referendum on the speakership because
that is the number of votes you need to become speaker and so Harrison said
invited after you know they went back and forth a bit and Burroughs didn't budge,
invited members to come sign his list.
From what I know, from what I understand, only one person signed it and that was David
Lowe, freshman Republican from Fort Worth.
The reason that this is such in the weeds is because all parliamentary stuff is in the
weeds, but it affects how things unfold on the floor very much. You know one point is
notable about the boroughs submitted as a resolution the rules say they
must be submitted in writing but talking that parliamentary people on this they
debate over whether it's you know effectively and writing there or you have to write it down specifically or if you submit a resolution in Congress
When you make a motion to vacate the chair, which I guess is it's not the correct exact wording of it
But it's you know, that's what everyone calls it
but in Congress you have
You have to do it via resolution.
And so there, Burroughs, the speaker here, is citing congressional precedent.
And when you look in the rules, you have various precedents that are cited.
And first, you look at how, when you're making a determination on some sort of
ruling, typically you look at House precedent first.
Actually, I think technically you look at the text of the words in the rules and if that doesn't clear it up you
look at house precedent and then if that doesn't clear it up you look to
congressional precedent. From my understanding, and maybe I'm wrong, but
from my understanding this is basically moving congressional precedent up higher
in terms of making these decisions, at least in this moment, right?
There's also an argument that it's all Kabuki theater, it doesn't matter, right?
They just do what they want. But this was when Harrison made the motion, it
was laughed out by I'd say about half the room. Much of the other half was just
kind of like, really? It kind kind of was a half cocked strategy
especially because only one person signed on to the
the motion
but
It brought a lot of attention to the situation even more than already had been
You know the other facet the other fascinating aspect of this is it was the next thing that Harrison
had done to try and, you know, stick his finger in the House leadership's eye.
The day before at the appropriations meeting, I think this was Tuesday because the appropriations
hearing happened on Monday, he had a stamp, he had the budget printed out when they passed out the budget.
We'll have that on the floor next week on Thursday.
And then he had a sign that said the budget nobody has read.
It was like a thousand pages, the committee sub.
And largely it's the same as what they've been talking about for a while.
Largely the same as what the Senate passed out.
But when you have a committee sub, you of course have some changes. talking about for a while, largely the same as what the Senate passed out. But
you know when you have a committee set up, you of course have some changes. So his
point was that there wasn't enough time to read this, but regardless we're
seeing an escalation building up to this motion to vacate by Harrison in the
tactics he's deploying. You know it's effective in getting a lot of attention,
especially in social media, it absolutely is.
It's also pissing some members off.
And I'm not talking about members of leadership,
although they're pissed off about this too.
Right, I'm talking members who,
and this includes when he called for a verification vote on Friday last week
over the quorum when there clearly wasn't one.
You know, there were members on the right, the political right, that weren't there.
And they were, you know, exposed to being not there even though they were in the initial
vote.
They registered as president. So,
um, you know, he's rankling a lot of people and
you will see what his goals are here. You know what his strategy is strategy so far has just been to constantly throw fire at ambition. Um, which should the
members have been there that day? Like, yeah, absolutely worth discussing.
Absolutely. Right. So that happens a lot in the house where folks will pretty
lie and say, hey, yeah, they're here. They're here. They're here as their buddy. And it's just kind of how it works.
But are they physically on the floor? Yeah. Well, and usually it's for like members who are, who will be there or running late for whatever reason.
It's not for people who are just flat out not there. Somewhere else. Right. And will not will not be showing up. Now the other point of contention is that there was no real
solidified business to be taken up that day. They had a memorial and resolutions calendar
and which you know critics on the right have been saying that why are we doing this anyway? Like
this is just wasting time and then they were going to honor the past members and former speakers.
So like there was no actual bills to be voted on
but they still didn't have a quorum and
They didn't have one on Saturday either. So
And there's no rule for proxy voting in the Texas. Well, that's just something that you wrote about in
Yeah, and that's actually in my tweeter II. Yeah. Okay. It's been you stole our thunder Cameron. Yeah
Yeah. Okay. It's been, you just stole her thunder, Cameron. Yeah, shoot. Um, but yeah, so this is building up to something.
It might be a clash with the lieutenant governor because Harrison has been criticizing heavily the budget.
Also the move, the moving picture image incentive program, whatever it is, that is a, you know, a priority of Patrick's. The Matthew McFarland email. Yep. That will be fascinating to see if that does blow up and
we'll see what goes. But a very notable day on Tuesday. It's quite spectacle watching from the floor.
Yeah, absolutely. And he's filed a, did you mention he filed a petition online? And I mean,
not that it's going to affect anything on the floor, but he did create a
petition online for people to sign to vacate the chair.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
It's also housed at WindRed, which is a fundraising operation.
Now you can't fundraise right now because they're in session.
And I clicked on a link and it didn't have an option to fundraise.
It is just a petition, but it is housed at housed at the you know that is building up his fundraising
database yeah you can't collect emails so there you go
we'll keep an eye on that especially with a June night coming up next week of the
10th so we'll keep an eye on all this and likely school choice very soon
thereafter. Coming to UK, where there have
been a lot of updates regarding Epic City, give us the latest.
Yeah, and for those listening who haven't heard anything about Epic City, I'm not sure
how because it's been all over the news recently, but this East Plano Islamic Center is the sort of parent organization in conjunction
with their investment firm that they created has started up this new
development this real estate development that they're calling Epic City and it's
been causing a lot of controversy here in the state.
Multiple investigations filed most recently with Governor Greg Abbott saying that the
Texas Rangers are going to investigate potential violations of criminal law.
And this epic city development is in Josephine.
It's planned to include more than a thousand homes,
a mosque, and schools slated to cover more
than 400 acres of land.
So very sizable real estate development here.
In the epic city and its parent organizations
have been quite consistent in saying this is for everyone,
anyone can join.
It's not discriminatory, but we've seen investigations being launched not just by Governor Greg Abbott,
but also Attorney General Kim Paxton.
So far, we've seen the Texas State Securities Board and the Texas Workforce Commission
being directed to investigate Epic City. the Texas State Securities Board and the Texas Workforce Commission being
directed to investigate Epic City. There is also a cease and assist letter from
the Texas Funeral Service to immediately stop all their funeral service operations
at Epic City. Paxton is opening a civil investigation demand into Epic and its
investment firm, Capital, Community Capital Partners,
saying that it's raised a number of concerns. So this community is, you could
say, Muslim-centric. It has Islamic in the name. So that's sort of rung the alarm for many of those in our government. And with these
investigations, we will see if anything comes out where there are violations of
different types of statutes or laws. But we're just waiting now to see what comes
of those investigations. And I encourage folks to go ahead and figure out or go
look at all of Cameron's reporting because since we haven't we didn't
report on this and then all of a sudden it was like okay we have five pieces up on this
exact development. So well we we just wanted to make sure that it was going to
be a serious issue because we were paying we were paying attention to this
for weeks now for more than a month probably, we just wanted to make sure all
the I's were dotted, all the T's were crossed, and there was actually
investigations occurring before we wrote about something that might turn into
nothing, but it looks like it might be something. Absolutely. Okay, thank you.
Brad and Irelis, this was a double whammy here. We're going to talk to both of you about this
story that Texan obtained some audio and
documents pertaining to last week's Dust Up in a Doge committee hearing here in Texas with Superior Health Plan.
It's a very spicy story and you all did some great original reporting. Here, tell us about it. Thanks.
Yeah, this is a really interesting story. So we
obtained some audio from a staff meeting that Superior Health Plan held with their
parent company, Centene.
And so if you remember, we covered this.
Superior was called in to the Texas House Doge meeting and it was originally to discuss
this lawsuit that they ran with the state of Texas where they're arguing that Texas had an unfair procurement process
that left them with much less of its market share than had previously.
So there's that whole lawsuit and that's what they originally called in for.
But then this hearing evolved into something different when Chairman Capriglione passed
out folders that had documents which detailed how Superior had been investigating these lawmakers and had those folders and the documents are linked in the article.
But so this audio was of the staff meeting where Superior, the first one that Superior held after this whole incident blew up. up and they discussed how they've launched an internal investigation and there were four
key things they shared with their staff that they found through this investigation that they've
started so far. And so the first one was that they've come to the conclusion that all the
information that was referenced in the hearing was publicly available information available on the
internet and they didn't clarify about whether they had
sought to obtain information that wasn't publicly available but that was they
found everything referenced in the hearing was publicly available and then
secondly they said that they found no evidence of legal violations such as
information being used for blackmail or leverage purposes and thirdly that they
said you know,
there's been a lot of talk about private investigators,
but this was all desk based research.
And the vendor that got the information wasn't in Texas.
So they were saying, kind of clearing up the idea of,
oh, there's an investigator following this person around.
They said this was desk based, strictly of public records.
And then their last conclusion was that the conduct
that was referenced in this Doge hearing stopped in 2019.
And they said after that, we believe that the research
which was referenced was gratuitous and crossed the line
of what was necessary to do our job.
But to be clear, it was legal, but not reflective
of conduct that we condone.
And that was, um, it's Landsbaum, his first name was Nathan Landsbaum.
Yeah, he's a CEO of Markets and Medicaid for Centene, which is the parent company of
Superior.
So that was him speaking there.
Um, yeah, so those were the four key findings of their internal investigation.
And then the new CEO or at least interim CEO Bill Jones spoke for a bit.
He talked a bit about company morale and said he wants to focus on the future and said Texas
is a very important market to our company.
And he talked about the whole lot.
So he said, I know it's probably on the top of your mind for most of you.
He said, we have a commitment to continuing to provide our members the best quality health care and our employees are at the center of that commitment. And he reiterated that the procurement process, which during this lawsuit with Texas over, was flawed and unfair,
but he said our approach will not change.
We're heading forward in the same manner and that's as pointed as I can get on it. So we did very interesting stuff. Yeah. And Brian, you
brought in some additional reporting those stories as well. Yeah. So
Mary Lee's got the recording. I got the
the file that completely handed out to members. Um, you know, most of it we
knew, but I think some of it had were all the members
that were being investigated by this company. You know, you had publicly stated ones, current
lane commissioner, Don Buckingham, Senator Charles Schwartner. And then was the other
one that we knew, Capri Leon himself. Yeah yeah and then the two that we hadn't seen mentioned were representative Sergio Munoz he was
specifically mentioned in a an email and then another one that we think is a
reference to Senator Chewie Hinojosa someone listed in there named Juan Hinojosa
and that's yeahwie's real name.
But I don't, yeah, but we're not even, like I said, we're able to confirm that that is exactly, specifically him.
But you know, the general theme is, is they're investigating, uh,
members of the legislature. And I think, you know, yeah,
you mentioned how none of all this was publicly available information. Um,
it's common for a company,
an insurance company like that to investigate claimants to make sure
they're telling the truth about the claims they're filing. But what's notable
here is that they're investigating lawmakers who are not claimants and who
are, you know, this is extraneous to their usual operations.
And so, specifically they were looking at lawmakers who were tasked with potentially regulating them.
That's the issue here. That's the ethics problem. Nothing was illegal, but it's a massive, massive ethics problem. And of course the questions were raised, okay how
often do insurance companies use to investigate this kind of thing when they,
like how often are private investigators hired in situations to you know ensure
that the claims are better be made or on the board right? But that's not the
question here. Another notable thing that they said during the meeting was
Landsbaum said he said in these cases we have to be careful to only collect information needed to do the job.
He said collecting personal information we don't need can lead to the
impression of invasiveness and then create misperceptions about why the work
was done in the first place, which is definitely what these investigations led
to. So I'd encourage you to have a story. Brian Rayless is reporting this is a very
spicy piece and I say that a lot and I think Rayleigh's reporting this is a very spicy piece.
And I say that a lot. And I think about every story. This is a particularly spicy piece and folks should go check it out at thetexas.news.com.
Great job, you too.
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And we're back and we have a special guest, Holly Hanson.
Hey everybody.
She just magically popped in.
Yeah.
And just parachuted in.
Yeah, it's really green screen.
She's been actually here with us.
Holly, what are you doing in Houston?
Oh, I had some meetings and some fun things to do so came over for a couple of days. Yeah, it's really green screen. She's been actually here with us. How long have you been in Houston?
I don't know, I had some meetings and some fun things to do, so came over for a couple of days.
And it's great to be here.
And now I'm in Houston for a few days.
Half the time I remember, he gave her permission to get in the building,
I clicked the app to scan in, and half the time I don't.
She's texting me like, I'm out the door, I got in the garage door, I'm at the garage door, like, Jade, go get her!
And it was kind of hot out there, like, okay, we're gonna be at the door, he's super hot in here.
It's really getting warm again. What's been on Houston these days?
Ooh, lots going on in Houston. There's all kinds of crazy things. There's a group trying to recall Mayor John Whitmire and which I think is probably a long shot I think
they have to collect a phenomenal number of signatures within 30 days to make it
happen and honestly he's pretty popular in the city right now so seems like a
long shot we'll see what happens. Well and Halle reports on Warned is Houston but you are
losing the ground there. It's a reform a session which is a huge huge issue in both
chambers. Correct, correct. It's still ongoing. We'll see what happens. I'll
probably be in Austin a lot over the next few weeks we hope and we'll see
some supposed take place maybe on the house floor soon. What's your over under
on whether or not you know what I think there's a pretty good
chance this session you know we hear that there's some negotiations going on
in the background and there's a big push for it especially when people are
looking at the kinds of things that happened with criminal justice in
Houston and Harris County in particular but also in other parts of the state
where people are really concerned about some of these really dangerous repeat suspects getting out on bond repeatedly.
And I just want to give judges those tools to perhaps detain some of these people.
There's actually those two SJRs, two resolutions that would amend the state constitution.
There's the other one that regards violent felonies committed by
illegal aliens. So that one would mandate the detention of an illegal alien
charged with a felony without bail. So that one, you know, we'll see. But there's a
lot of push, a lot of pressure on some of those Houston Harris County representatives because of
the Jocelyn Nungre story. We'll see what happens.
And of course, these constitutional amendments have a higher threshold by which they can pass the legislature,
which creates a little bit of difficulties for some of these issues that do have a broad majority of support.
Still not that. You can't have just a simple amendment.
Yeah, you've got to get the two-thirds. So you need at least 12 Democrats to join every single Republican in approving these.
And then it's not done because then it goes to the voters.
In this political climate, come on!
I'm sure it can happen.
Yeah.
I have agreed to optimism.
I can't be trusted.
That's a good time.
Awesome.
Well, Holly, thanks for joining us and letting us pull you in the room here.
Sure.
Yeah, sure.
This is where...
Get to work.
Atta girl! Welcome back to Austin. Thanks. Thanks.
Okay, well we're back and Holly's still here and Cameron's gone. So did I know
what was going to happen five minutes ago? No. Are we rolling with the punches?
Absolutely. Are we glad Holly's here? 100%. A little switcheroo. So Cameron ran
over to the Capitol for an education, like a very big education committee
situation where they're going to be talking about committee subs for the big house, the
Texas two step.
Isn't that what it's called in the house?
Oh yeah, they are called that.
I forgot about that.
Yeah.
They're not as committed to the bit as Paul Bettencourt was on the property tax stuff
where he'd say it in literally every press release or anytime you ever talked about it.
In all capital letters. For sure. With a lot of exclamation
points. Yes and maybe some bolding in there. He does use all the tools at his
disposal. That's how you keep a theme alive. That's exactly right. Just like him and his Trump impression.
Cameron jumped out for that and we were like Holly you're here, come join us.
Right after we said fight Holly she's still here.
You could have told a more interesting story like I you know fought Cameron for the seat.
I mean we could have we could have played that but here we are.
Here we are yeah that's very very true I missed an opportunity. Well we were gonna
have Cameron talk about school choice education financing but we kind of
talked through that already. Brad do you want to give a quick rundown just of what the house is
Dealing with and why it's important Cameron be over there. Yeah, so they're they're having a formal meeting which in a formal meetings
Typically where they just
vote out bills that have been already considered in a public hearing and
So they're doing that today with HB 2 and SB 2 with a committee sub for SB 2
There's some differences in
those committee subs. Not a ton, but you know Cameron would know the differences.
I do not have that knowledge. I can tell you all about property tax relief though.
They do go hand in hand. Yes, but this is, so this is a big deal.
Um, you know,
there's a lot of uproar about this hearing not being live streamed.
And you know, the reason is that formal hearings are never live streamed.
Uh, and so, you know, you can argue with that all you want,
but that's how it's been. And so even for this, um, they have it, they don't have a live stream.
Although Cameron, I think it's planning on live streaming when he gets there,
if he gets there on time. So, um, there you have it.
There you go. Yeah. Godspeed to Cameron. Yeah.
The day I'm hearing that this is going to get brought to the house floor is
April 15th, uh, not confirmed yet in a formal calendar, but they were definitely putting this behind consideration of
the budget. The week following the budget. Yep, so we'll see if that comes true, but April 10th is the day I'm hearing.
There we go. Bradley, thank you. Mary-Lise, we're coming to you. An operation was
conducted by ICE in South Texas recently. Let's talk border. Yes, so another operation that ICE is conducted in
Texas. They arrested 72 illegal aliens, which included two gang members, and 61 of them are
criminal aliens. This was a week-long operation, so it was from March 16th to March 22nd in Harlingen
in Cameron County, and they said that this was to bolster public safety,
national security, and border security.
So there were 11 different charges that were doled out to these individuals.
And three of the criminal aliens were charged or convicted with a sex offense
or a child sex offense, such as aggravated sexual assault of a minor,
possession of child pornography or rape.
And there were two that were charged for an aggravated felony or other offense,
such as homicide, aggravated assault, or domestic violence.
And the ICE Enforcement Removal Operations Acting Field Office Director said that the results are a
clear indication of ICE's commitment
regarding the role we play in keeping our community safe by locating, arresting,
and ultimately removing at-large criminal aliens who are posing a public threat to
safety and other immigration fugitives. There were seven of the 61 criminal
illegal aliens that were convicted or charged for alien smuggling, which is a
topic we've talked about a lot in this podcast.
And then there were another seven that were charged with
driving while intoxicated.
And like we said, the two of these 72 that were arrested
were documented gang members.
Uh, ICE did not clarify which gangs these, um, individuals were from.
And yeah, so this, another operation, uh, conducted by ICE.
We'll probably be talking about these every week now on this podcast, these
operations that ICE will just announce, Hey, we, we did this and the city in
Texas, and this is how many individuals were arrested.
These are the crimes.
So we'll keep, keep an eye on that.
Per usual.
Per the usual.
That's exactly right. The next story we have on our docket is a story from Cameron about Trump. crimes. So we'll keep, keep an eye on that. Per usual. Per the usual.
That's exactly right.
The next story we have on our docket is a story from Cameron about Trump's
tariffs and encouraged folks to go read his story, but a very interesting press
conference and what he declared was a make America wealthy.
Again, a press conference, Trump said that jobs and factories will come roaring
back and that the tariffs will bring about a golden age for the country.
He called them reciprocal. That was a big theme of this press conference
saying that, hey, this is we're only enacting these because of actions done back to the
United States. Cameron does detail, of course, this is not a cut and dry issue where there's
just a groundswell of full on support from both parties. It's not the nature of this
kind of move. We have Chuck Schumer, of course,
leader, Senate minority leader, declaring the Democrats will fight these tariffs to
the nail. A number of Republicans also leading out to the executive order have also voiced
their opposition, specifically signing on to a Democratic resolution to block Trump's
Canadian tariffs. What's interesting here is you also have a huge community of Republicans
who are very supportive of this move.
So I'd encourage folks to go read that.
And of course, Texas being the power that it is within the states, it will absolutely be affected by this negatively or positively.
So go check out that story from Cameron Bradley.
We're going to come to you. The house passed part of its priority property tax plan,
which, you know, school choice and the ESA bill
and the school funding bill, you said not in your real house,
but property taxes, so let's talk about it.
Boy, I can over talk on property taxes.
Please don't.
So exciting.
Also, this is the first time, guys.
We've got a female majority.
We have a female majority on the podcast.
Whoa, Brad.
In person.
You're outnumbered.
This rocks.
Wow.
This so rocks.
This is an hour.
This is a big moment.
So don't bore us with this whole tax thing.
You know what I'm saying?
Brad's face when we said that, we
need to have a zoom in on his face.
He did look quite, uh.
The moment of horror.
Yeah, exactly.
You want me to actually talk about this? I was just going to say, why don't you start, Brad?
So it wasn't very exciting on the house floor.
It was a foreground conclusion. We knew it was going to pass.
HDR1 and HB9, part of the house's property tax plan.
The other part is HB8, which is more compression. HB1 or HJR1 and HB9 effectively would just increase the
business personal property tax exemption from $2,500 to $250,000. The BPP
exemption is on an exemption tax exemption on all property owned by
business including inventory that is not the land on all property owned by business including
inventory that is not the land on which it sits the business or the the building
it owns so you're doing a really good job thank you I appreciate that so the
that was increased it's aimed specifically at small businesses you
know they pay taxes on inventory, you know, when you
have a smaller business that inventory, you know, when you have a large corporation the
inventory is massive, like the 250k exemption is going to do nothing for
them. But for small businesses this can be a really big thing. And so that passed,
there were two attempts to amend them, both by West Ferdell, a Republican from
Brady, a freshman.
He wanted to increase that to a million dollars and then tried to increase it when that failed, tried to increase it to 500 million.
Morgan Meyer, the chairman who introduced these, authored these, he said that he wasn't opposed to the idea of giving more tax break there,
but they had a carefully negotiated deal, or at least financially, in the budget.
There's a certain amount of money allotted for this in the budget with the Senate,
and so they didn't want to disrupt that by changing the number
and thus increasing the amount of money they're spending on this.
So those two amendments failed.
These two things passed overwhelmingly. I think only like a dozen or so Democrats voted
against these ultimately. And they passed final reading today on Thursday.
So now we'll go over to the Senate. There you go. Bradley, you did a great job.
Thank you very little. I do feel the need to affirm him more than I usually would
because he is outnumbered so significantly on this podcast currently.
Yeah, he really does to be affirmed.
He really does love words of affirmation, so.
Is that your love language, Brad?
Huh.
Not in the slightest.
He would rather me say mean and insulting things to him
so you're doing a good job.
His love language is sarcasm?
Yes.
I like it.
You're exactly right.
My love language is get me out of here.
That is such a good one.
Oh no.
I think we should drag this out as long as possible.
Let's milk it. I'm gonna look at Twitter now. Okay. That would stop me if we were fully in the majority.
That's true. That's what you get for podcasts. Well Holly, let's talk about one of your stories this week. This is a very interesting nexus of the political infighting in the legislature, which happens behind the scenes every session, and a very big legislative issue that has gone on
and been discussed pretty broadly
for a couple of sessions now.
Still, there's a lot of money that has found itself
off of the local revenue or tax rolls.
Right, well, we're talking about taxes.
Yes.
That's something we could talk about.
Absolutely, so walk us through it.
Yeah, so there's these programs in the Texas law that allows a 100% property tax exemption to
property apartment owners and developers who set aside a
certain percentage of their units for either low or moderate
income folks. And there's a lot of caveats to that. But there's
been some complaints. They did
reform part of the law during the last session in 2023. It was a big fight. And the concern
is they're taking a lot of tax revenue away from, for example, your local school district,
your county government, your city government, your municipal districts. They're all being
deprived of this tax revenue
without having to say in whether or not these properties are removed from the tax rolls.
And so again, they reformed it somewhat last session. Now they're coming back because there's
another part of the code that they're calling a loophole and trying to reform this. And what
they want to do is have more stringent requirements for providing actual low-income housing or
moderate-income housing. They also want to have audits, not only of the new
properties that might be coming off the tax rolls, but also existing
properties that were already operating under this program. And the allegation
has been that a lot of these apartment owners, developers,
they don't actually have to reduce their rents.
When they look at what they call the local market average and then the average median
income for just that area or area median income, sometimes they can actually raise the rents,
even though they've gotten this property tax exemption that can be extended for up to 99 years. So a lot of concerns about it. So you had
Representative Gary Gates has been on this issue for a couple of years now. He
had a bill to implement some new reforms in this other side of the code, having
the audits, having the more stringent requirements. But there's been the usual kind of horse trading
in the background.
And his bill had a hearing in the Intergovernmental Affairs
Committee a couple of weeks ago, but was not given a vote.
It's not been brought up back in the committee for a vote.
However, a competing bill was brought up.
Now, this bill has an interesting history.
It was introduced by the committee chairman, Cecil Bell, Jr.
And it is a duplicate of one introduced by another representative, Rafael Anchia.
And some folks have pointed to the fact that Anchia is the co-founder of a group
that invests in these properties,
they develop them, they manage them, they own them.
And so the concern is that he has an interest in this and a conflict of interest perhaps.
But Bell introduced the same bill and that was heard in committee last week and voted
out that day.
So that's been sent to
calendars while Gary Gates bill which has a lot more reforms attached to it
is still waiting to be brought back up. In the article if people would like to
go and read the article that we published this week you can see there's
an interesting timeline here and some emails that went back and forth between
committee members and some some interesting emails that went back and forth between committee members and some
interesting meetings that took place and a lot of concerns about which or whether or
not Gates bill is going to come forward. Also to note, Gates bill has been given a lower
number indicating it perhaps has the blessing perhaps of the speaker. Well, not necessarily.
Yeah.
Interesting part of that is it was given when feeling was still speaker and still in
the right right right so you can read between the lines say okay that was
something feeling agreed to for gates to get his vote for speaker it's probably
wasn't as explicit as that oh that's how the speakers stuff works, right? But yeah, those were the first two priority bills filed.
Right.
20 and 21.
HB21, yes.
Well, he had one other one, 20.
Oh, right.
Yeah, he had two of them.
Yes.
But that was while feeling was still Speaker and was still in the race.
Correct.
Which is the interesting part of that kind of transition between Speakerships, right?
Exactly.
Bill numbers.
Yeah.
But I think, you know, we're hearing things on the back
channels not quite sure what's gonna happen with Gates bill we did see an
interesting tweet today from Mays Middleton who had a bill that was a
companion to Cecil Bell's but he was I guess called out on Twitter and he
responded that he hoped that Gary Gates HB 21 is the one that passes. So we will see what
happens with the sausage making on this one. Yeah it's really interesting to
watch all of this. I think Brad, you and I on Smith Builder Room a couple of weeks ago,
a couple weeks ago? Wow it's been a while. Really talked about a lot of this behind the
scenes chatter with bills and how authorship and these issues can kind of
become a very territorial issue behind the scenes and a lot of folks aren't aware of it
but it happens and it's a huge deal within the building during the session is
who's carrying what bills and this is just another instance of that and
kind of bubbling to the surface in ways that the others did a little bit but
this one's really starting to kind of come forward. Well one more point I'd
make about that I talked to Gates the other day and he told me he now has 103 co-sponsors for his bill. So,
he's got bipartisan support for it and he had bipartisan support in the 2023 session when he
pushed some amendments that more thoroughly reformed the other part of Texas code that
governs these these arrangements. And yeah, so when we're talking about whether or not your
school districts are getting adequate tax revenue, this is a factor. And
as the critics of this program pointed out, they award these tax exemptions
without getting the school districts input and then you know the
taxpayers across the state have to make up for that with the state's allotment.
Yeah absolutely. We'll go read Holly Hansen's reporting at the Texas Center to get
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And we're back. And it's a story that is Cameron's who is not here
because he is over doing more important things at the Capitol
than yapping around with us. But I'd encourage folks to go read
his story deals with vapes and e cigarettes. Legislation
specifically discusses we can a Senate committee hearing sparking some major
debate. So folks go read his story at the Texan. This is SB Senate Bill 1698.
Senate Bill? Senate Bill SB. I said the acronym and sometimes the criticism we
receive from listeners is hey define your acronyms. What does that mean? So I
was just making sure. I hate defining acron acronyms I know that's why I
try and do it for you often because he'll rattle off acronyms and I'll be
like oh is that what that means okay great making sure it gets in there
Mary's we're gonna come to you various Democratic lawmakers are supporting
Republican legislation clarifying the state's abortion laws very interesting
combination of allies here. Tell us about
it. Yeah for sure. So I believe we talked about this on our last podcast episode
but this is the the Life of the Mother Act has been filed and this was highly
anticipated legislation because it clarifies the state's current abortion
laws and there was a ton of talk about that during the the last election you
know cycle.
So there's been a joint statement released by the Democratic lawmakers that are supporting
this kind of explaining, okay, this is why we're supporting it.
And the main themes were that, okay, we are staunchly pro-choice, but we recognize that we don't have't have the majority were not able to pass legislation that we
would like to right now
but this is a necessary next step they said in
in a long-term fight so they were saying this is
this is the next step that we need to make so we've got Senator Brian Hughes
Life of the Mother Act which is Senate Bill 31 just also
one of the and Patrick's priorities.
And he's got one Democratic member, Senator Carol Alvarado, who signed on as a co-author.
And she's also the chair of the Texas Senate Democratic Caucus.
And she wrote in this statement, she acknowledged, she said that she thinks there's some confusion
around what Senate Bill 31 really does.
She said, this bill doesn't go as far as what we would like. You
know, we'd like to include exceptions for fatal fetal anomalies and rape or even
repeal the ban, but we don't have the votes for that as the minority party in
the legislature. And the other statements are put forward, so
there was, because there's House Bill 44, and so the
House representatives, there's 27 Democratic members that are supporting his bill with
eight Republican co-authors.
And Representative Donna Howard said in the joint statement, she said that right now,
pregnant women across Texas are facing a health crisis, being forced to carry dangerous pregnancies to term, risking
impairment to their major bodily functions or life.
And she said that she thinks that House Bill 44 will address this maternal health crisis
by putting decision-making related to appropriate medical treatment back in the hands of medical
professionals, ensuring they can act on when to decide if
to continue a pregnancy and if that will risk impairment to the woman's major bodily function
or if it will risk her life.
And Howard said that she thinks this is not an either or situation, it's a both and.
We need clarification now and in the future, she would like to see a restoration of access
to abortion health care for all Texans," she said. And we mentioned this before, but this Life
of the Mother Act requires continuing medical education and
continuing legal education to ensure that both our medical and legal
professionals are well-versed with the state's abortion laws, and this is
something that these Democratic members are supporting. The representative Ann
Johnson also provided an explanation in this joint statement she said that Texas
is facing two crises driven by political extremism. She's saying there's one in
the courthouses and another in the hospitals. So she has it you can read her
full statement in the piece, but these women are
explaining why they're linking arms with these Republican lawmakers and why I think this is the
next appropriate step. And we of course have been greatly anticipating the life of the Mother Act
back in July 2024 when Hughes said this will probably need some clarification. So everyone was
anticipating that for this session.
So.
Absolutely.
And here it is.
Yeah, here it is.
Here it is.
Very interesting.
Mary Elise, thank you for your coverage.
Last story of the week is also a Cameron story.
This week was the opening of a new stock exchange
here in Texas.
Very interesting to watch the New York Stock Exchange
in Texas open up here and encourage folks
to go read Cameron's reporting at the Texan and give some rundown of the Trump media group being the first listing,
which is also very interesting. So go check that out at the Texan. We do have to go into
our Tweetery section. Holly, I don't know, you know, we can, we'll, we'll come to you
last, but think of some sort of Tweetery to throw in here. Bradley, I'm very curious about
yours. So I'd like to start in here. Bradley, I'm very curious about yours, so I'd like to start
with you. Okay, so it's not even a midterm yet, so there's no real election
other than local elections happening. There is a very high profile election
going on for mayor, the mayor of Flavortown. Oh my gosh. Of what? Flavortown. Laker town?
Flavor.
Flavortown.
Yes.
Oh.
And you know who the incumbent of Flavortown is.
I do not.
Guy Feary.
Oh.
The guy from Diners, Drivens, and Dives.
Why is there, why has he been unseated?
He has not been unseated.
He's being challenged.
He is the current incumbent mayor of flavor town
He's being challenged by and this is a pretty significant one by Gordon Ramsay. Whoa
Hell's Kitchen fame, right? That's this was a show the big one. Mm-hmm and
So far the general election spending on this race
has amounts to 1.2 million on Ramsey's behalf
and 726,000 on Fieri's half behalf.
Oh.
So it's heating up.
It's a pretty rockin' and rollin' election.
And we'll see where the chips fall on the local election date.
Who do you, who's your money on?
I think Ferry will win. He's got enough money to keep him afloat.
You can't take out the actual mayor of Flavortown.
Flavortown.
I'm of course kidding.
This was in April 1st, April Fool's Day post by Ad Impact.
Oh.
Man, I really got you.
I don't think my delivery was that good. You did. I definitely thought this was Impact. Oh. Man, I really got you. I don't think my delivery was that good.
You did.
I definitely thought this was real.
Yeah.
I think we trusted you.
Yeah, I know, right?
No, it was a...
I'm so disappointed.
It was a spoof post by Ad Impact,
who posts ads spending TV bias,
money buying TV bias, and that kind of thing
during election season.
It's really helpful. Really thorough and insightful when we're actually in the
thick of an election.
That's funny.
So yeah, there's that.
I will add a real one real quick.
There was an article in the New York Times that came out this week with Attorney General
Ken Paxton previewing the potential clash between Paxton and Cornyn for US Senate
It the article reads
It's pretty funny. I think asked how he made this decision to run
For US Senate. Mr. Paxton began answering the question
Then he was reminded by a campaign consultant that he had not yet officially decided to run right. Mr. Paxton said
campaign consultant that he had not yet officially decided to run. Right, Mr. Paxson said. They went on. I have a feeling I know who that consultant is. I will not
name him, but that is a pretty comical side note there. But I mean for all
intents and purposes he is running and I think it would take a pretty
significant change of pace for him to decide not to jump
in.
Yeah.
I, if you have you guys, this is totally related to the first portion of your Tweetery.
Um, do you just watch Gordon Ramsey on Hot Ones?
Have you guys seen that?
No, none of you have?
Oh my gosh.
The Hot Ones, it's the show on YouTube.
It's super famous where people, celebrities like A-list celebrities go on and eat a slate of hot wings and they get hotter by each wing and they're
interviewed. Okay I've definitely seen that. It's unbelievable watching. It's the
most entertaining and honestly like the interview questions are the best
interview questions of any out there but Gordon Ramsay's I think has the most
views of any of them ever because of course it's Gordon Ramsay he's just like
swearing the entire time and like in absolute pain sweating bullets
It's very funny and the host is like such a I don't know kind of calm presence
And he's just sitting there like also dying from eating the wings because he's eating the wings along with the guests
But it's like so much more calm and Gordon Ramsay is just like freaking out and bringing in donuts and milk and things to try and
Yeah Gordon Ramsey's just like freaking out and bringing in donuts and milk and things to try and mitigate. Yeah, it's terrible. Um, Mary-Lynn, so what do you got? Well, this is something that Cameron was teasing
at the beginning of the episode, but I covered it in the 40. There was a big desktop over proxy voting
for parents who were in Congress, new parents, and there was a whole debate
over that. Representative Paulina Luna was kind of leading the charge there
alongside a congresswoman from Colorado who recently had her son and she had to
decide between, hey am I gonna bring, I think it was her eight week old at the
time to vote or am I gonna miss? And she was really wishing that she could have
voted from home. So this has been a very interesting conversation because I have
strong opinions about this but as so does everybody else and that's been well
displayed online and speaker Johnson is speaker Mike Johnson is not having it so
yeah it's very interesting yeah yeah I mean Roy, he's one from Texas that's been saying, Hey, like I'll do
respect to you, but if you can't do your job, then you're going to need to
choose between one or the other.
So that's very, is it, is it falling largely on partisan lines or is it
kind of a split?
It seems pretty split.
That's so it's, it makes sense that this would be an issue that
might split a little bit.
Yeah.
Cause they're, cause the people that are for it are labeling
it as pro-family, pro-woman. Totally. And so then a lot of the like pro-life folks
are like oh yeah this is a good way to promote motherhood but then got the
other side of the coin there. Yeah. Very interesting. Yeah. That's a good one. A lot of concerns about
proxy notes too. Yes just generally speaking. Right, are they legitimate?
Are they, yeah.
Is there room for problems there?
Yeah, will it be abused?
Some concerns, exactly.
Another instance of voting integrity,
just in a different setting, right?
Totally different setting, but very,
I just knocked my microphone.
Very interesting.
And folks, go subscribe to the Texan
to get the Texan to get
the 40 cent to your inbox every Thursday. Holly, do you want me to go or do you have one?
I have one. I kind of scrambled really quickly and some interesting things here. Since we
brought up John Whitmire earlier in the podcast. Yes, that's perfect. Covering Houston, I'm always
interested in what's going on there in the city. But there's a tweet today from Patrick Sveteck about an interesting political
pairing. Houston Mayor John Whitmire is listed as a special guest for an April
22nd fundraiser for Congressman Dan Crenshaw. Oh interesting. So you know
there's a lot of talk about Whitmire and where he follows.
He's probably what you would call an old-school moderate Democrat.
I'd argue he's still pretty much a Democrat, but, you know, he's very concerned about public
safety and some of the threats to the community based on, you know, federal and local policies.
The other interesting thing is,
there's another tweet from Urban Reform,
a clip of Whitmire in a city council meeting yesterday
saying that if the federal government decentralizes,
he's asked for the US Department of Energy
to be relocated to Houston.
Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. So he's been, you know,
kind of flirting perhaps with the with the Republican side of things. He's
pretty interesting guy. He's doing these efficiency audits in Houston to try
to analyze how Houston is spending. They did have a result of the audit not too long ago
showing that Houston had more city employees
than any other urban city in the country per capita.
Wow.
More than New York, more than LA?
Yes, that's wild.
Wild, I think.
And there was a ton of duplicative programs and personnel and there were some supervisors
or managers that had two employees under them and there was a lot of things that were uncovered
and so he declined to raise taxes last year saying he wanted to get through these audits
first and trying to figure out what's going on with the city of Houston Wow
Never fails to disappoint me
So interesting. Well, Holly, thank you. You're welcome. Um, my tweeter is not really a tweeter. It's something that
Tyler Norris a
Somebody certainly you find around every corner in the Capitol on any given day posted
posted on his social media that I asked permission to steal. Okay. So this is very much stolen
information, but he so astutely noted that in 1979 which was the 66th legislature that everyone in
charge of the state government was named Bill. What? Yes. So we have William Hobby,
right? We have Bill Clements, the governor. Okay, that's just that. The
speaker was Bill Clayton. Okay, but get this, the President Pro Tem of the Senate was Bill Meyer.
The Dean of the Senate was William Moore or Bill Moore.
I can't tell this is odd.
It's like in parentheses.
And then the President Pro Tem interim in the interim was Bill Breckley so there's just bill bill bill
bill bill 79 would you call that a billocracy uh-huh
painful that was a bad joke I heard one that was just disappointing but it's not
wild so I mean you look at this's like, it shows that they know these placards all
throughout the Capitol, commemorating each legislature.
There's a house we have, you know, of course the governor and the speaker, both
Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill.
And we complain here about getting all our Daniels confused.
I know.
We have so many Daniels in our little sphere.
In our orbit.
I know.
This would be far more difficult. This would be very challenging. I know. So many Daniels in our little sphere. In our orbit. I know. This would be far more difficult.
This would be very challenging.
I know.
No matter what, but the good thing would be no matter what day, you know, you're working
in the ledge if you're a lawmaker, if you just yell out Bill, you'll get somebody's
attention and power.
Sure.
And of course the pun on Bill, that Bill is being brought up.
That's true.
Go on and on here.
I'm not as good at Brad as Trina.
Lots of layers. Lots of jokes. And we're grateful for that. That's true. Go on and on here. Again, it's lots of layers.
I'm not as good at Brad as Trina.
Lots of layers.
And we're grateful for that, Holly.
We are totally grateful for that.
Well, Holly, thanks for jumping in with us.
You're welcome.
Last minute here.
A little impromptu.
I know.
Yeah, I wasn't really prepared, but hey.
You totally were.
And Cameron is sitting over in a committee meeting
ready to go live, so bless him.
He ran over.
I think he's a...
But of all of us, he's the most equipped to physically run to the Capitol at breaking
speed.
Okay.
If I take off my heels, I can break it.
You would disagree?
That's probably accurate.
Cameron runs like six minute miles long distance running.
Wow.
That is super impressive.
So, yeah, no, I can't compete with that.
You know, it's kind of hard.
He was a, yeah, he runs five miles
and the time it takes me to run like two and a half.
You know, it's kind of annoying.
Get for him.
It's amazing.
Any last comments, Bradley?
I've got nothing to say.
What?
I'm thinking about my lunch right now. Me too. I am locked in. I'm thinking about my lunch right now. Me too.
I am locked in.
I'm thinking about your lunch right now too.
You better not steal it.
What's your lunch?
There will be consequences.
Hmm.
The other half of my sandwich that I had from yesterday.
Did you get Thunder Cloud yesterday?
No, I got Jimmy John's.
Why get Jimmy John's when you could get-
Because they deliver Freaky Fast and I was hungry and I wanted it Freaky Fast
instead of having to go drive over there and get thundercloud. Rob went to thundercloud yesterday.
I know because he offered to bring me back some. Yeah and he walked back without offering to get me any.
Oh how rude. Well he offered me some and I wasn't even in the office yesterday so
um well folks thanks for listening to us for longer we'll catch you next week.
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