The Three Questions with Andy Richter - Gary Gulman Returns

Episode Date: June 3, 2025

Comedian Gary Gulman returns to talk to Andy Richter about his new one-man show, making breakthroughs in therapy, seeking out challenging projects, keeping your material fresh, and much more.Do you want to talk to Andy live on SiriusXM’s Conan O’Brien Radio? Tell us your favorite dinner party story - leave a voicemail at 855-266-2604 or fill out our Google Form at BIT.LY/CALLANDYRICHTER. Listen to "The Andy Richter Call-In Show" every Wednesday at 1pm Pacific on SiriusXM's Conan O'Brien Channel.

Hi everybody, welcome back to The Three Questions. I'm your host Andy Richter, and today I am once again talking to the very funny and very wise Gary Goldman. Gary Goldman is an actor, writer, and excellent stand-up comedian. His book, Misfit, Growing Up Awkward in the 80s, is now available in paperback, and you can find his specials on HBO Max. You can go to garygorman.com to find his upcoming tour dates. Here's my conversation with Gary.

Gary, gorgeous Gary Gorman. How are you, Gigi? Thank you. I feel great. Good. Things going well for you? Yes, I've been busy. I made a one-man show in New York and I just did it at Largo this weekend. Yes, I know. I knew you were here to sort of... Worked.

You know, because people don't come here because they like me. No, I already sold the tickets. I came here to. No, but I mean, but you're going to do it elsewhere, too. Yeah, I'm going to do it elsewhere. Yeah. Fall. Yeah. And it's called Misfit, right? No, it's called Grand Eloquent. Oh, Grand Eloquent. Oh, is that your stand up show?

Yeah. Grand Eloquent is the one man show. And Misfit was the was the stand up show. But Grand Eloquent is one man show. And all this information is at Gary Goldmangoman.com, I hope? Yes. Okay. Yes. Well, there we go.

We got that out of the way. But I am doing some misfit shows, but Grand Deliquent is like the one that I had a director and a set, and it was really fun and a bit of a stretch for me as a performer. But tell me the difference in that. Like, what's the difference between doing, and you said The Misfit Show, which is I guess like a set of material that you do, which I imagine room for digression and room. Yeah, yeah. Exactly.

But Grand Deliquent, is that more sort of like a set script that you do? And what's the difference in terms of like, cause that's the thing is like, when somebody's like, I do a one man show, but then I also do stand up, I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? No, no, and I was too obvious about the idea too.

I only cook eggs, but I also make omelets. Oh really? Yeah, but the omelet is to the egg as the one man show. I get it, I understand, I understand. That's a really good analogy. But what was the challenge in terms of like the performing differences for you? Yes. I go like six minutes without getting a laugh, which is just...

And that is... Yeah. And was that hard? It's really hard. Yeah, yeah. Because your instinct is to say, I better say something funny sooner. They're gonna walk out of it. Right, right, right.

And it gets- And that's conditioning. That's like nothing- Totally. It's just conditioning. Yeah. Yes, and rehearse, the other thing is, I don't rehearse my standup shows

with the director in the room, and we don't block out the movements, and there aren't any props or sets or lighting and all these things. So it's just, it was probably a 20% challenge in that it was 20% harder than constructing a regular standup set in that they were, also it's emotional.

And so at the end of a standup set, it's very easy to get back to yourself. And at the end of the Grand Eloquent show, frequently I would be in a blubbering tears. Oh, really? Yeah, because it was, it gets kind of heavy and it's about my family and my mom and dad and it's just, you know how at our age,

those types of things really hit us differently. I mean, is that good though? Yes. Is that good for you? You know what I mean? Yeah. Okay. I think it was, I hate to use the know what I mean? Yeah. Okay.

I think it was, I hate to use the word cathartic because it's the exact right word. Yeah, exactly. Sometimes words just happen to be the right fucking word. Yeah. I'd love to have a word that wasn't so obvious for you. Yeah, that's what it felt like. It was also the idea of a really good cry, especially around my dad, who I was very close with, and my mom, and just it's, yeah.

My dad who I was very close with, and my mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, when I was doing this, my mom was still alive. Yeah. So that was different. I hadn't talked about my dad in front of strangers. I see. In the deep way that I do in this show, and he passed away in, I think, 2015.

Do you think you may have killed her? Is that what you're getting at? That and the fact that she was 92. Yeah. That end the blurb, this show kills Cedar Sinai Hospital. Gary's mom's doctor. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh my word. No, but I mean, but so it, yeah, I get, I don't, yeah, there's all kinds of parent stuff that I just am, well, I mean, my mom doesn't listen anymore. So, but it's like, there's so many things that I'm, so, I mean, I don't know, but like, there's definitely like sort of the notion of a book about your life kind of thing. Like, yeah, I gotta wait.

You know? Right. You know, and I mean, not to be gruesome or, you know, grim or morbid, but it's like, yeah, but I just can't. I just, you know? No, I get that. I get that. Which is weird. But that's very kind and thoughtful.

Yeah. Or cowardly. No, it's not cowardly. You care about these people's feelings. And my mother is so sensitive. And I talked in my book about how when she worked at the Hallmark store, she was paid $3.10 an hour,

plus all the greeting cards she could steal. And she was mortified. She was so upset. Why didn't you warn me? And I was saying, I've been telling this story for 10 years, but to see it in ink in a book, it just, yeah, devastated her. It felt so bad. Yeah, my mom told me, she said,

I stopped listening to your show because I don't like to hear you talk about family. And I'm like, okay, you know what, that works out. We're from the Omerta generation. Well, I actually, and I've told this before that I was on uh, Mark Maron's podcast. Yes, that was a great interview. Thank you very much.

It was years ago and it was like at the point where I was kind of not even quite sure what podcast meant. Right. Uh, I just knew I was going to his house and you know, and I've known him for a million years and I'm as comfortable and friendly as one can be with Marc Maron, I guess, you know, just because of his Maron-ness. You know? He told me once,

because he was on the show a gazillion times. And we knew each other, like, outside. We had a lot of, like, friend connections, and, like, dear friends of mine lived right above him in his building, so I had that connection. And that friend, like, made a documentary about, like, all this outside shit, too. And he was on the... He did his sit-down stand-up one time,

you know, second, like, middle act or something. And, you know, and then somebody came out to talk to Conan in the commercial break about the next thing. And he's just kind of sitting there, and I'm like, hey, Mark, how's life? What's going on with you? Haven't seen you in a bit. And I could just see that deadness in his eyes that was just like all how'd I do, how'd

I do, how'd that one bit go and stuff. And I just went, I said, Mark, it went fine. Don't marry me, man. Just fucking talk to me now. And he, of course, was delighted by that. Yeah, yeah, of course. But it was just like, Jesus, yeah, like, let it go. And I mean, and that's, it's easy for me to say.

It's easy for me to say. And that's, and I think it's also like, it's the reason that like I do improv and other people do standup because I like, once I started doing improv, I was like, oh wait, it's gone into the night sky and we don't have to think about it again? Oh, I love that. Whereas other people like can't, no, no, no, I gotta obsess about it, I gotta get it letter perfect.

I'm just like, oh my God, no, I can't. I can't do that. I mean, for so many years, my mood the next day was always dependent on how I had done life the night before. Oh, it's so much. Yeah. It's no way to go through life.

Yeah, yeah. How long did that take? I want to get back to Mark, but... No, I guess I started at 23, and it wasn't until probably 45 or 46 years old. Oh my God, sweetie, darling. That I could divorce myself from how I did last night. Oh my God, sweetie, darling. That I could divorce myself from how I did last night. Oh my God. And sometimes I would do well,

but a new joke wouldn't work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've lost it, I'm running out of creativity and it's just, it's such nonsense. I'm not perfect. I mean, I certainly can beat up on myself and like, you know, if there's a TV with me on it, I go to another room, you know.

Totally. I'm not fucking healthy or anything, but I at least can sort of, you know, and I think also too, doing the Conan Show, so much stuff that you just, you know, like you're in front of people all the time and it's on TV and then it's on YouTube. You just have to like, I gotta let it go.

Speaking of the Conan Show, I've been meaning to bring this up with you for so many years and I wonder if this bothered you for so long, it seemed like the staring contests were not fair. I just, it was, you were always so distracted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't know if Conan,

I don't know if they planned it that way. Well, he was cheating. He was definitely cheating. It was pretty fair. And I know he's a cheater. Yes. I know he's very, very, but he's a very fragile man. He could have won some of them without the cheating. I know! Of course, of course. That's why I would have liked to have seen a fair staring contest. Right, right. But what they never showed and it's why I've had never spoken up about it Is that I would have them place a mirror behind me off camera? knowing

What a fucking like how difficult that would be for him to miss that So it's like he can bring all the Civil War soldiers out You know to make out behind him all he wanted I had You think he's vain. I had his kryptonite behind me. Uh... No, I mean, I'm kidding, but... But it is, I mean, that's like, that's like one of the running... Yeah. The running gags, you know, of our lives and of the last 30 whatever years...

So great....is, you know, of our lives and of the last 30 whatever years is, you know. Like, you know, he was made a, I just saw an old clip that came through my algorithm of him somebody sent, talking about their kids' first words and he said his kids didn't talk till five and I said, they couldn't get a word in. Which is just after a while, it's shooting fish in a barrel, being around him. Cause there's just like so many openings. It's just like, oh yeah,

because you're incredibly vain and self-centered. You know? Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah, yeah, no, it's very, it's very loving. And I mean, you know, of course it's like, what makes it all fine is the fact that he had me sitting there to do it for decades, you know, to make fun of him for decades,

which is, you know, one of like, one of his magical powers is the ability to have people around that fucking shit on him. You know, right? But it's not easy. It's not, it's not an easy thing to do. But you know, and I mean, you know, and I mean, there is, of course, you know, there's certainly, you know, with any of your friends, like there's certain sort of like a ball busting there

again, I hate using that phrase, but there's not a better, right? Yeah. There's certain areas of ball busting that like, yeah, that you can do that. And then there's others like, oh no, no, don't. You can't go there. You have to protect each other. I read this thing recently, somebody sent it to me that they said that the ball busting

can make a friendship even deeper. The thing is though that someone has to be so close to me and proven so much goodwill over the years that any slight is so painful to me. But there are three or four friends that I have that make fun of me, and it is a bonding experience, but it takes a long time to get there. The people who go right to the ball busting

when you meet them, I can't tolerate. There are communities you show up, and whatever you're wearing, you have to be careful, because they're gonna, oy. There are communities you show up and whatever you're wearing you have to be careful. Yeah. Because they're going to, oh. And it's also, it's a very like, it's like, it's basically if someone does, like I was at a farmer's market once and I'm not a very hairy person. Okay.

And I'm... I'm just noticing that now. I'm not a very hairy person. You have gorgeous arms. And I've become less hairy like in my 50s. Interesting. Like I used to have chest hair and it just, it all checked, it retired.

It moved on to another body at some point. It's weird. And I mean- It's very non-Jewish. But it's my, yes, I am anti-Semitic just genetically. I guess, and maybe it's not anti, but I mean, if you're an anti-Pope, you know, it's like, yeah, yeah.

No, I'm very, like, you know, my DNA thing. I always joke like it says, I'm just like, hey, I'm white. It's just a mix of all the different above Italy's that there are, you know? But this guy comes up to me, I'm at the farmer's market buying pupusas or something, and I just hear behind me, Jesus Christ, do you shave your legs? And I think it's a friend of mine, and I turn around, it's just some fucking guy who obviously recognized me and was probably a fan and was like,

I'm gonna be instantly intimate with him cause it's fun and funny. I'm gonna give him a little. And I just, and I was like, I turned around and he's like, he goes, cause I know you're not a swimmer. And I just was like, I was like, a whole routine. Yeah, I was like, it's called old age.

And then I just like got my, but I was like, doing that to me is just like a way of saying, Hey, Andy, you're not going to like me. All right, thank you. Goodbye. Yeah, he's lucky you didn't take a swing. Well, I mean, I don't, but it's just, it is. It's like, oh, thanks. I was just, you know what? I was out here just living my life, being myself completely kind of unselfaware or uncritical and oh, oh, oh, okay, I will feel bad about something. Thank you.

Thank you, fan. No, I mean, that's, it's a whole level of like maleness that I just am not good with. And I mean, and again, I do have fun friends that we tease each other, but most of it's like absurd. You know, most of it's like, you know, like, cause you know, like, you know, like you freeze turds in the freezer and then suck them off. You know, like it's like the most, like that's what you do,

friend, and that's like, ha, got ya with your turd sucking. And it's nothing, it's not like real stuff because again, it's like, why would you do that with you? You have all, you have limited time and you're gonna spend it with your, the people that you supposedly love by going like, you know, like you are, you know, you are a nervous type, you know, or whatever, you know. Like you sure are a slob. Like, whoa, you dress bad. Yeah. On Mark Maron's thing, I talked about my family being judgemental.

Like the two big things on our family were like depression and judgment. Was like everyone's sad, but then like, let's all sit over here and judge all those other people out there, like, look at them, try. You know? And my mom and somebody that was like a student of my dad's emailed my dad and said like, hey, there's this thing, your son did this interview and here's how you get it.

And he said stuff. You know, I talked about my dad a little bit and we're estranged for a long time. And then he told my mom and she listened to it and she, and she came out to visit us and we're in the car going somewhere. And she'd specifically like, I want to go with you. Okay. And she said like, yeah, I want to go with you. Okay. And she said like, yeah, I don't like what you said in that thing.

You said that we're judgmental. And she said, I don't think it's fair. And every time I hear you talk about the family, she said, it's just negative and it's not all negative. And I said, that is a fair point. And I will work hard to temper my critiques of our family and of my childhood, which by the way is my childhood. So I do get to have some feelings about it,

but I will temper them with some positivity because there is positivity. It could be shared and that's a fair critique and one that I actually endorse. Yes, I would like to complete, like make a more complete picture. And she said, okay. Within a minute, she's talking about her sister

who she is closest to on the planet. And she's saying things about her and her husband, my uncle, like, you know what a fucking mess they are. She's like, their whole life, they're living on credit cards and they're just broke all the time. And I was like, and they are. She was like, their whole life, they're living on credit cards and they're just broke all the time. And I was like, oh, we're not judgmental at all, are we? And it was just like one of those moments

where you just shout them down, you know? Like these people that have had so much power over you. And she just went like, boom. Just like, then pouted. But I was like, wow, that's remarkable. Right there, Ma. There it is. There it is.

That hardly ever happens. I know. I know, I know. Object listen right there. But the other thing with comedy is that nuance does not work with comedy. My family was a mixed bag. Yes, absolutely.

Nobody is. Absolutely. Yes, you have to find these black and whites and it's hard, so you just, you have to deal with some hurt feelings to get that. I do a call-in radio show. I got to get my own plugs into my own show. I do a call-in radio show, but we have topics and it's always things like medical disasters,

dating mishaps and people will be like, why don't you talk about positive things? And I'm just, because it's fucking dull. Dummy. It can be really dull. Yeah, really, really dull. Like, you know, like... And it certainly is not what I'm into. Like, you can find that content, but it is not for me, you know.

I still... I understand that. I still, like, one of my fucking DNA things might as well be bitch. I'm still 18% bitch and I'm just never gonna get over that. So yeah. No, I do like to dish, but then for my own soul, I always like to bring it back to something positive

and it's almost always Maria Bamford's comedy. Because you can't help but want to condemn the human race and then you have to come back to yeah, but we also, one of us was Stevie Wonder and one of us was Maya Angelou and one of us was Maya Angelou. And one of us was Jonas Salk. So we are capable of really great things. But also we are ants who are trying to kill each other over how we build an anthill. Right, right, right.

And also not only that, like now currently trying to make anthills unviable. You know what I mean? Like make it so that the building of an anthill just isn't a thing we do anymore. It's particularly tough time to salvage positive feelings about much of anything. You know?

I know. And it's like, you know, both in the world and politics and environmental and then like, and in our business. I mean, I don't know how damaged you are by the downturn in show business, you know. I mean, because, you know, stand-up is pretty bulletproof. Yeah, and that people want to see live shows. Yeah. I've tried to sell things in terms of cartoons and TV and film. Just nope.

And it's just, no thanks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's so discouraging. Yeah. Oh, it's really discouraging. And then it's like, yeah, because I was pushing, you know, I was pushing, pushing, pushing. And then I just kind of was like, this is just making me feel bad.

Like I'm just, I'm doing homework for a teacher that just won't even read it. So much homework. Yeah. You're not even like, you won't even really give me a grade. Just now I won't even, you know. No, I know. It's a bummer. Is there an explanation for that other than greed and-

Shareholder value. I think that's the beginning. That's the thing that will kill us is shareholder value. There's no making things anymore. There's no like, this will be good for the community. People used to open up, I mean, there are always rich, greedy motherfuckers, but they used to like, at least like open up a factory and then be like, this will create a hive of life. And people will buy homes and raise their children here.

And they're all, you know. Like I'm sure that Hershey, Pennsylvania has some ugly history, but it is like, no, no, they said, let's make chocolate. And then a fucking town sprung up, you know? And it wasn't just like the minute we get this chocolate good, then we're going to sell this fucking thing to a Thai conglomerate, you know, and then they're going to strip it for parts.

Right. You know, Joanne Fabric. Yeah. Joanne Fabric dismantled. No, I know. Like, like, can't you you just, and I don't even give a shit, you know, but it's like- See, I give a shit, I'm a crafter. Are you really? Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, I have a glue gun on my, yeah.

See, my wife, no, I mean, really, seriously. Yes, yes, obviously. And we have gone to Joanne Crafts because my wife and my sister-in-law kind of, you know, do some stuff with fabric and it's just like, I couldn't, you really had to fucking tear that apart. And Michael remains, but there's a hole in my heart for sure.

Right, right. Fuck that Hobby Lobby. Oh, right? Fuck that Hobby Lobby. I detested them just for the fact that Hobby Lobby, it may rhyme, but it's not a thing. It sure is, yeah, yeah. No one's, yeah. We must protect the hobbyists.

Yeah. I need to get in here and talk about the prices of felt. HO gauge is being too hit. It hit too hard. But then you could also picture it as a waiting room to get into a hobby, I guess. Right. Yeah. And you can also picture it as a waiting room to get into a hobby, I guess. Right. Yeah.

Where there's really old magazines and little kids running around. I want to collect marbles, but I'm just not there yet. We'll wait here. Yeah. But it rhymed. Yeah. What do you do hobby-wise? This is fascinating to me, crafty-wise. I make some really elaborate collages. Oh, yeah. What do you do hobby-wise? This is fascinating to me, crafty-wise.

I make some really elaborate collages. Oh, cool. So they're three-dimensional, and I mean, my wife must hate this, but she's very patient with me. So I will, for instance, when I would go on Conan, I would save the sign that's on the door and any kind of ephemera such as the parking pass

that you have to get to park there. And so I make these big, and then also other action figures from when I was a child or particularly a coffee cup that I was drinking coffee when I came up with a joke that I really liked. Really? And I'll put that on the thing and also. Are they like three dimensional,

like shadow boxy kind of things? Yeah, that type of thing. Oh wow. And so you also have to get it framed by somebody who really knows how to frame it. As you know, even to frame your diploma, you go into debt. Yes.

And that is the most remarkable thing that everything they've found a way to do it cheaper except for framing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's unbelievable. I found one place that's like inexpensive in Burbank and it's a really nice family run company.

Wow, that's great to know. But it's like reasonable. Can we plug it? Yeah. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to get uncomfortable. No, that's all right. Wilging is their name. I believe it's Wilging.

Will you guys Google that? Cause I just, you know, it's like one of those businesses that like, I know where it is. Yes. No, I get that. I can't remember the- Wilging Art Services?

Yeah, Wilging Art Services. Okay. Yeah, they're fantastic. Oh, that's wonderful. And they do a lot of, I think that the reason that they can do it is that they do a lot of studio work. Cause they're right.

They're just, you know, they're in Lancashire near Universal. But they're just super nice people. And it is, it they're right, they're just, you know, they're in Lancashire near Universal. But they're just super nice people. And it's like, you go to the, you know, even the chain one, I don't even remember what it used to be. Frame King? No, there was one out here that I think went out of business, but it's just like, what?

I know. What? I know. I have a $40 poster that I like, and wait, you want $185 to frame it? $185 is nothing. My diploma costs over $700. What?

Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. And I went cheap. I went to Boston College. It wasn't an Ivy League. An Ivy League needs a better frame, but I went as cheap as I could. And you know if it was a better school, they would have charged you more.

Of course. Oh. Yeah, if they knew what the school specialized in. Oh, yeah. Oh, well. MIT, okay. Oh, okay. Can't you tell my love's a crow? Are you finding, you know, in the, because I mean, obviously depression has been a part

of... Yeah, I've been very, very open about that. Yeah, yeah. It's been, you know, you've milked that cow for all it's worth. But I mean, is that, do you find there's catharsis in the work that you do doing it? Like, and is it, is it because of the repetition or do you actually sort of find, you know, like the therapeutic unraveling of something that's in you that, you know, that's the thing about therapy to me.

That's always like, I have so many times in my life said something in therapy and felt like, Oh, that's something I've known for a long time, but I never put it into words. So it's never been so plain to me. But it's just been, you know, it's been like a, you know, like a big dark fish swimming in the water that I could sense its presence. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, it's a big dark fish. And then you, and then it gives you some sense of control over it,

or at least just that you can then begin to take the next step of figuring it all out. Does it kind of do that, where you actually find new discoveries? Certainly that, but also sharing my story. And then at the beginning of the year, because I knew a lot of sensitive, thoughtful people were going to be struggling.

Yeah. I started putting out these things that I used. It was just I would write down little tips that things that, for instance, I said, just set your timer for five minutes and start walking. When it goes off, you can turn around, or you can keep going for another five minutes and start walking. And when it goes off, you can turn around or you can keep going for another five minutes. But the main thing is that it's really hard to start a walk. And if you give yourself the permission to only do it for five minutes.

So I put out things that were helpful and practical like that. And I think it did a few things. And just being on like social media. On Instagram, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And Facebook. And I found that one, it would reinforce these things that I had known and that caught me out of the house.

So that if I was feeling bad, hey, why don't you do this thing you told 200,000 people to do today? Yeah. You're feeling- You put it back on yourself. Yeah, you're feeling glum. So go for a five minute walk.

And there's part of me that's like, well, what's five minutes? But it usually leads to a half hour walk and getting out of the house. And so that's really helpful. But also, this is the dirty little secret about generosity is that it makes you feel good. Twain said, you want to cheer yourself up,

cheer somebody else up. And it's really true. I think there's something in our DNA that altruism works and boosts our mood. So I think that's been really helpful. And also when I was really sick, I don't think I made a deal. I didn't promise the universe anything,

but I used to envy people who were active in the community, whatever community they were a part of, in helping people out. And I feel like I'm in the community, whatever community they were a part of in helping people out. And I feel like I'm in the mental illness community. And I feel really good. So whenever I'm offered an opportunity by like on June 21st, the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill NAMI is doing a walk. I don't know how long they're going to walk, but longer than I'll be participating in the walk.

But they call it an overnight walk. I mean, I'm healthy, but not that healthy. They call it an overnight walk. And it's to build awareness of suicide and to let people know that people care whether they... Oh, wow. Yeah, about you as a survivor of suicide or whether you had somebody in your family.

So I'm making a little speech at that and it's on the Intrepid, which is an aircraft carrier in New York City. So I'm gonna make a little speech at that. And I'm honored to do it because I always hoped while I was sick that I would be the type of person who if I were well, I would have the energy and the confidence to do something like that.

So it's sort of, I guess indirectly, paying the universe back for allowing me to survive this because I was, man, it was bad. It was bad, but luckily I've had seven years, knock on wood, of feeling really, really good. And I've had grief and I've had sadness, but I haven't had clinical depression and I'm really, really good. And I've had grief and I've had sadness, but I haven't had clinical depression and I'm really grateful for that.

Do you think, cause I'm in a similar boat, just in terms of- But can I say before you finish this, that you being open about it in that interview with Mark Maron and the other one was called the hilarious world of depression. It made me feel less ashamed that I was sick. I just assumed somebody, and also there's this part of me

that always felt like, well, if I was Conan Sidekick, I'd feel better about myself. And you find out that that's not- Oh boy, is that wrong. Yeah. And you find, or just this man is working in TV and it's not the answer. Yeah, yeah. knowing that that's not the answer is such a great gift Yeah

that people like you and Bruce Springsteen and Michael Phelps and and it means a lot to To people because you have every right to keep your privacy But the fact that you opened up about it was such a tremendous gift that I hope you you understand how how important well Thank you, and I and I do and it is like for a cynical smartass like me, who is, again, too easily been programmed to too easily be cynical and kind of like, oh god, take it easy. You know?

But because you do, and also too, I will always, as a show business professional, look at like 90% of what show biz puts out about itself and go, ugh. You know, it's like just, and I don't know where, but it's just like there's so much, where I hear interviews and people talking, you know, like accomplished people talking about

the things that they're doing. And I'm like, Jesus Christ, congratulate yourself much. You know, and so I fight that. I mean, there's a part, there's certainly a part of it that I'm like, it's not going away. And I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing because I do think there's too much insincerity in the world generally.

Yeah. But I never felt like, oh, famous people talking about their issues, it always just seems so self-serving. And then, but I then, when somebody would ask me about mental health and did I have, you know, was it an issue for me? And I'd be like, well, yeah.

And then felt no shame in talking about it. That didn't feel like self-aggrandizing to me. I just felt like, no, it would be, it would be like rude and irresponsible to not answer it in a clear-eyed, honest way. Yeah. And that I do have to give, I have to give my mom credit for that

because she was very much into like no shame and feeling bad. And if you gotta go talk to somebody, go talk to somebody. Wow. But I started having just, you know, like people come up to me and say like about, especially that John Moe is the guy. Yeah.

Yeah. He was like a NPR and he still does, he still does recordings of stuff and podcasts. Yeah, he has a show now called Depresh Mode. Yes. Yeah. And are you suing him? No.

No. No. But yeah, he was called, I think the Hilarious World of Depression was a podcast that he did. And I had so many people come up to me and like almost, you know, like choking back, crying telling me like how important it was and how like hearing me say that made them make a change in their life. And I mean, it's like, I am not prepared for that level

of like fucking, you know, genuine goodness, you know, that I'm like, wow, thanks, okay, good. And I'm very happy about it and we'll never do that again. But, you know, I mean, I'll never be shy, you know, like I will accept Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Thank you. I did a good thing and I will continue to do a good thing. Yeah and but do you think getting back to I Feel like having struggled with it forever. Yeah, I did like reach a certain point where it just started to get easier.

Totally. And I don't know if it's just so much therapy and I mean, and medication too, you know, but I mean the medication was kind of an up and down kind of thing. But I do think that like, I'm not exactly sure because it was, there was a part of me that's like, is it just because like, I'm not exactly sure, because there was a part of me that's like, is it just because you get older and the way that your knees hurt, or maybe your brain just isn't like, it's not as easy to be sad? Is that just something that happens? Or is this talking cure actually working? And the more I think about it and the more I have experience with it, the more I think it's the latter.

You know? Yeah. I think that the medicine got me to a place where I could take in the talking cure and that it would help. But I mean, this is probably too grandiose a term, but I think as we get older, we get some wisdom. Yeah. And so the things, and we realize what we should be valuing versus what we valued when

we were in our 20s and 30s. And in some cases, we've had some of the things that we thought were the key to happiness and they didn't work. And then we realize, and I've realized this over the past seven years, I knew that this was being bandied about, this idea that all we have is this, our connection with other people. And I used to think that's bullshit. That can't be.

And then you realize, oh no, all my greatest memories were just me either hanging around with friends or playing basketball. They weren't the great quote unquote achievements of life. And I remember and I detest name dropping. But the day after I shot my special, the great depression, Judd Apatow called me and he said, and then I just named drop. That's all right. Yeah. He said, you're feeling hung over, and you're feeling like, is that all there is?

I was like, yeah, how did you know? It is tempting for you to say, I got to do something bigger and better because that wasn't enough. That didn't feel so great afterwards. If you start doing that, you'll never get off that treadmill. There are people in this business who do this, do that, and it is, it's a dead end.

And it's exhausting. And that relieved me, because I felt kind of guilty. I was like, why wasn't, why aren't I happier and more excited about having doing this thing that I had dreamed about for a long time? Had he seen it? Or is he just? He produced it.

Oh, okay. Yeah, so he produced it. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, so he was there. Yeah, okay, good. Because otherwise it's just like, I sense Gary is in New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I sense self-loathing. Right.

The Dr. X of self-loathing. I didn't add the right context to that. Yeah, yeah. We had never met before and he had been there the night before. And he was like, you're feeling hungover in it. And it's just, wow. And I felt guilty about not feeling great about it

and feeling that the term hangover was really the great term because I had been promoting it and practicing it. And then it comes out and you're like, is that all there is? And it was really helpful to, I mean that's one of the great things I think comedians can do is that we let people, we give them permission slips to feel certain things and not feel ashamed about them. And it can be very good. We make people feel less ashamed about having mental health or addictions.

It can also be bad because some comedians let you off the hook for being a racist sexist. Yes, yes, yes. That's really bad. Yeah, that's not good. I wish they would stop. But what do you... You know, like when you can't come up with jokes.

You know, I mean, not to be a total dick, but it is like... No, but it was... So much of it is like, these are 60 year old ideas. You've noticed this? Yeah. You've noticed this thing? Yeah.

That's like fucking a gazillion years old, you know? Oh my gosh. It's just, you know, yeah. I don't need to rant about that, but it is. But it's a bummer too. It's a bummer when you see, especially stand up. Like I personally, I could not do it. It just, there's too much, there's too much of it

that is just like in terms of my personality would dovetail with me feeling bad. Like the loneliness of it, the sort of transience of it. And honest to God, because I don't know if it's an improv thing, the repetition, the notion of like working for a long, like months and months to say the same hour and then, and getting into the minutia of that, that sounds like a punishment to me.

Just because I just, I never worked that way. And I also, like, I hate talking about shit. Like, I hate, I mean, it's weird because I do tons of, like, I've been in therapy for a million years, so I'm not afraid to, like, dissect things. But, like, after Conan shows shows there was a post meeting. I didn't go to one beyond like the middle of 1993. I was just like I don't want to talk about like it's like to me it's like there's something like special and almost kind of romantic and it's like talking

about like laying in bed with someone and talking about like how good that sex was. Like I don't know about like laying in bed with someone and talking about like how good that sex was. Like, I don't know if it's not self-evident that it was good. Like I don't think talking about it just makes me going, oh no, just, you know, now you ruined it, you know? And I kind of feel like that about talking about, and it probably is from improv

and guys wanting to sit around afterwards talking about the improv show. And it's like, fellas, it's gone. Right. What do you know? Just I'll, I'll meet you outside. You know, I don't know. It's just, it's something about me.

It's something I don't, I don't like meetings, you know? And, and I, uh, and so that kind of having to have that kind of eye for minutiae and, and, and on the same thing over and over. Same thing with like being in a play. I've been in plays. Did not like having to say the same like, oh, I got to say the same shit again. And I just, I couldn't, I couldn't do it. But so when, but it's still an incredibly difficult thing to do. And I mean, I'm letting my own preferences inform that of like, oh my God, there's so much work

and there's so much stuff about it that's not fun. And then to do it and to do it, to just go up there and rehash stuff, you heard some, like to go into this thing and say like, I wanna do that thing and I want it to work. I wanna be a success. Yeah. And, and so like, I'm going to imitate that's, I'm going to let that be the,

the horse on this cart, right. As opposed to, I want to figure out what I have to say. Yeah. I want to figure out what parts of me that I am interested in sharing connect with other people and how that can grow into like me learning other things about myself and people learning and then feeling that sort of together. And also being funny, like being funny by being honest and being real, as opposed to being funny because it, you know, like you're in a basketball game

putting points on the board. I don't know why you would do that. I have some thoughts on it. Well, I'd love to hear them, because I mean, I've talked too much. No, but I completely understand what you're saying, and there are comedians in my life and coming out of Boston so that if I haven't been in Boston

for 10 years, I can go back there and I can see the same routine that the guy was doing 10 years ago. But what I've found so helpful, and I will say that it took me at least 10 years to get to a point where I was getting enough work where I could work out my act on stage so that it became iterative. And so from the time I start with new ideas to the time I shoot it for a special, it's changing a little bit every night

and it's getting a little bit better, a little bit longer, or things are getting tighter and I'm adding things and I wanna talk about this and this joke made me think about this. And so it's never the Same until I shoot it twice. Yeah. Yeah the very end of that right and so there's repetition, but yeah growth There's so much growth. Yeah, and oh, I like this word better here. I forget It was a combination

It was an interview or maybe they were just talking to Gary Shandling and Bill Murray and Bill Murray was saying how we'll do it take different Every single time and I and I love that and then Gary Shandling said I will change the the order of the of the jokes I will change the delivery over and over again and then but a lot of us grew up on Seinfeld who I'm going to do it exactly Yes, and it's just and I won't care about anything but these jokes. Yeah. You know, I like my children, but they're not my jokes. Right.

Sorry, Jerry. Not sorry. It's got to be maddening. Yeah. It has to be maddening to be that compulsive about the order and the delivery. Like I heard him say, I'm just trying to do an impression of myself doing this joke the best it ever worked. And it's, and then it's almost robotic.

So, and I just, and also, I mean, the one thing, the one person show is that, some one person shows you're locked into the material and if something crazy happens in the audience, you have to ignore it. But I think that would be, I'd have to be a sociopath to ignore certain things in the audience, you have to ignore it. But I think that would be, I'd have to be a sociopath to ignore certain things in the audience.

So I have so much freedom and luckily I trust myself at this point to improvise and also if it doesn't go well, not beat myself up for 24 hours. Because that's another aspect that I think so many people are so afraid on stage that if they deviate from the thing that worked and it doesn't work, they'll be so in their head about it. So I completely understand what you're saying about having to do the same thing over and over again and then dwelling on it or having a meeting about it after.

Like I really envy improvisers and a comedian such as David Tell, who you will see at the Comedy Cellar in New York, do a joke that you will say, that's the funniest thing I've ever heard, and then you never hear it again. Because he's not precious or married to anything, and what he's feeling is what's important,

and he's present, and I just admire. And he also will do the joke that's the funniest thing you ever heard, and it might be a 20-year-old, you know, something that just occurred to him that he said 20 years ago once. Totally, totally. I mean, to me, that's an artist and not doing it because he wants to turn it into an album

or a special or anything, and that's what's so great about improv is we're not pimping the audience. Yeah, yeah. Using them to get to something further, and that's what's so great about improv is we're not pimping the audience, using them to get to something further. We're trying to give them this incredible, unique experience and the true definition of unique, which is that it can't be replicated. And it's, I mean, it's almost like sports,

the draw of sports is that you don't know how it's going to end. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're all discovering together what happens in that moment. Yeah, no, that's, I'm, it's a strange thing because I do, like my background is improv and I love improv and I in many ways

have been doing improv, you know, my whole career. You know, like a big part of what I've done on the Conan Show was improv. Yeah. You know, there were sketches and stuff that we did bits in and even in those there'd be room for improvisation. But I'm not like one to be like,

there should be more improv on TV. I just feel like, no, if you're gonna do improv, there's certain ways on TV it works. But if you're gonna do improv, it's really a live thing because you do kind of have to be in the same room to enjoy the birthing of this experience that you're doing together. And it's about what we talked earlier with the connection

with the audience. Because it's amazing when you're sitting in an audience and you see people that are really good at that doing it. And that was always like, I always felt whenever, and I mean, you figure it out very quickly when you're doing a strip show like we did. Like when things fuck up, like, hooray. You know what I mean?

Like, oh wait a minute, they seem to love this, you know? Which is why it's always been offensive to me when people fuck it up on on purpose or that fake breaking Oh, I know like when people break on You know and go ahead folks and figure out. Yeah, it's such a situations. I'm talking about it's like no you breaking in a comedic scene is like a Spiritual happening like it's it's like yes. It's a magical Pain is like a spiritual happening.

Like it's like, it's a magical, sacred thing. And if you trot it out as a, like if you're like, oh look, you know, this thing works. Like, oh, just, you know, just bend over and show us your asshole. You know, just like gape for us. Cause you're, that's what you're doing. You're not, you know, it's like, you're just cheating gape for us. Because that's what you're doing. You're not, you know.

Wow. It's like you're just cheating. You're cheating. Yes. You could do something like, and it's like, because if it happens, it's the most beautiful, exciting thing when you make somebody that you know is not supposed to laugh and they are like, have been to the don't laugh gym years, and then you can make them laugh, oh, my God, it's the fucking best, you know?

So don't cheat it, don't fake it. Right, right, because we can tell. Yeah. And it's like, and I was like, early on in my career, I'd do shit with people, and they would, like, I don't remember a conversation with a guy, and he's like, yeah, he goes like, he's like, yeah, and he actually like told me something, like I think I'll probably break there

and I was like You what you said? Yeah. Yeah, you said, you know, it's like Tim Conway and Harvey Harvey Corman, you know, it's gold it always works. I was like don't you fucking dare don't you fucking dare for you? You know Yeah, it's like no. I was so good that I made you laugh. Don't you fucking dare. Good for you. Oh man. You know? Yeah. Cause it's insulting. It's like, oh, I was so good that I made you laugh. Oh no, no, you were just trying to fucking rip off

Tim Conway and Harvey Corman, you know? Yeah. I almost said Keitel, which God, that would be a good, Carol Burnett with Tim Conway and Harvey Keitel. Harvey Keitel. Yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh. Well, anyhow, yeah, I don't, I love improv,

but I don't think that it's like, it exists outside of the sort of, you know, but the spontaneity, it's like, it's why like doing this is fun, because it's a conversation and I don't know what we're gonna talk about. Like I have like some stuff written out, which by the way, I wanted to, my favorite thing, You and this is fun, because it's a conversation and I don't know what we're going to talk about. I have some stuff written out, which by the way, I wanted to do my favorite thing.

I was telling Sean, my producer, this. Youngest of three brothers and was raised in a Jewish family. It makes it sound like you were kidnapped, like a Catholic boy kidnapped. You're going to learn to be a Jew, boy. Raised in a Jewish family. They switched my author boy outfit for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What?

What? Yeah, yeah, what's this little hat I'm wearing? Yeah. But yeah, I think, you know, the discovery and the spontaneity of things is always the best. I mean, well, except, like I said, in television there are like shows,

there are sort of like improv shows especially, or like movies where people are like, this movie, yes, it's a narrative movie, but it was largely done through improvisation. I kind of feel like that though. I sort of feel like, you know what? You maybe should have just written something. But what about Christopher Guest?

Because as a non-improved person, I'm blown away by that. Yes. But I also, I'm not an improv person, I don't know whether you're seeing tricks or gimmicks. No, no. What I'm seeing is like, that's first of all, like there's a narrative, like the narrative is,

it's secondary, you know, most of it is confessional interview and then riffing. And that's, I always have found like in movies when people say, improvising in movies, like improvising in movies, unless, I don't know, you're John Cassavetes or something, improvising in movies is there'll be like, you gotta say this, which will motivate this,

cross over to the toaster, then you get the bread out, and then you sit down at the table. And when you sit down, there's a hole there where you can put in whatever you want. But then we gotta get to the point where you talk about dad's funeral. You know what I mean? There's business that has to be achieved,

and there's sort of like shoe leather, as they call it, that you have to do. So whenever I've done improv in movies, it's always been just like, okay, I come into the room and I say this and then it's like, and there will be times where they'll be like, you know, okay, we got what's on the, now come in and just, and that's also too, like that for me,

that's like, that's always fun. Like to be in and having gotten to do like being in a Will Ferrell movie and none of all of this shit's nowhere to be seen. Some of it's in like DVD extras. Okay. But just like to be in a Will Ferrell movie and have them say like, okay, we're going to do like eight or nine of these. And you just say a different thing each time.

Love that. Oh my God. It's like yummy. Yes. Yeah. And then, and you know, some different thing each time. I love that. Oh my God, it's like yummy. Yes. Yes. And then, and you know, and some are better than others, but then there's just like a couple of them where, you know, you just know like,

you know, you're delighting the funniest people on earth. That's just the best thing in the world. I got to do that one afternoon on Amy Schumer's Life and Beth, where I was this really Jewish guy, and I was making suggestions to what we could do in New Orleans. And we did so many takes where I would just say, these little historical Jewish snippets, and my favorite one was I said,

did you know that Jackie Robinson was a member of the local Benei Brith? Just trying because in the show, I have an African-American partner, and so I'm trying to please black people by telling them instances where Jewish people got together. Got along. Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, and all kinds of Lenny Kravitz ephemerals. Sammy Davis Jr., you know.phemerates. Sammy Davis Jr. That was...

Sammy Davis Jr. famously. Voluntarily. I mean, most people would be like, why? Oh, that is so fun to do that. And I haven't gotten that, but to do it with Will Ferrell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want you to go back and just kind of pitch me Grand Eloquent again and just kind of let me know like,

Okay. What the show is about and where people can see it, or where they're gonna be able to see it soon. Yeah, we're announcing some tour dates for the fall. And I do think I'm going to do it in London, which will be the first time I ever perform. Oh, wow, fun. Outside of Canada and the United States. London, which will be the first time I ever perform outside of Canada

and the United States. And so that will be really fun. Do you have a presence there, do you think? Like, or will you find out? I'll find out. Yeah, yeah. I'll find out. But I mean, I do frequently get,

please come to the UK. Yeah, yeah. And people will be from the UK seeing me in New York or LA and they'll say, please come to, so we don't have to time it with a vacation or something like that. So that's pretty cool. And I like the general vibe of British humor,

so I think it'll be a good challenge. And so the show is about something, I repeated the first grade, and it is about what that type of, I don't want to call it trauma, but really bad decision by my parents, because I was in the 98th or 99th percentile of students, I guess. there was a test that you'd taken, I think it was called the intelligence quotient. And I was like, I don't like this term, but I was in the gifted. Yeah, yeah. And my father got it in his head that he would give me an advantage by making me repeat the first grade. I think part of it was he thought I would be a better athlete or something.

And so he made me repeat the first grade. Was that important to him? Because that's what people do, yeah. It was important to him. Because you'll be bigger. Yeah, yeah, I'll be bigger. Because you being big enough has always been a problem. Right, I was the tallest kid in first grade by a torso.

And then he made me repeat the first grade and it ruined me, but also it made me. I hear that a lot in art, which is this thing that was horrible also. And the idea is that, and one of the thesis sentences, I guess, would be that we don't owe our pain any gratitude. Because a lot of us are told,

well, it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger. But yeah, sometimes it kills you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I guess that's it. But it's very, it's mostly very funny, but then there's a five or six minute chunk where it's pretty heavy and I get emotional most nights. Which is, that's what makes the day very difficult

when I'm doing a show because I know, hey, tonight you're going to have to cry in front of a bunch of strangers. And I don't have to cry, but I usually cry because there's something about what I'm saying that always hits me. And sometimes it's just an example of my father standing up for me with a teacher that makes me cry. And other times it's me relaying something my mother told me when I was six or seven

and I didn't have any friends. And she said, you only need one true friend. And I look back on that and she was so right and it was so wise. It was almost, in some ways she was the clock that was right twice a day, the broken clock. And that she said so many oblivious things,

but she said that and it really moves me when I think about it. And I always, for whatever, probably because of acting training, I find someone in my life who I think about at that time and it gives me an emotional, there's an impact there. Yeah. When you, on the shows where you don't get emotional,

like do you leave feeling like, oh, I didn't give him the whole deal. The whole thing with acting is you mustn't cry. Yeah. But fighting off the crying is, that's where the audience can relate to you and understand. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't want to take away their feeling by crying myself.

Right, right. So it's just, it's... And all of a sudden you don't want to take away their feeling by crying myself. Right, right. So it's just... And all of a sudden you don't want to just like make it like, this is the point at which I cry. Yeah, exactly. It's always something different. Then it's a trick. It's like a trick that you do for them.

Right, exactly. And I don't care for that. And I don't like it as an audience member. So, but what I found from taking acting for so long is that you build in a lot of different things that will trigger certain things, and some of them won't, and some of them will one night, but if you build enough, if you feel it,

the audience will feel it. And so it's just more about being present than about trying to get to a place where I cry, but if the words are meaningful, generally I get emotional. And yes, at the end of the meaningful, generally I get emotional and yes, at the end of the show, there's part of me, well, they didn't get to see the crying baby tonight. And I do my best when I'm prepared.

And I've... Go cry at the merch table. That's what I find. Do you know the comedian Dave Hill? Yes, of course. Yeah. Okay. So Merch Table always makes me think of his, he'll be doing a five or six minute set.

Yeah, yeah. On a showcase. And he'll say, all right, so let's get through this so I can set up the Merch Table. It makes me laugh. And then he says, and I also want to leave some time for a Q&A. And he's doing six minutes. Oh my gosh. We bonded over, and we talked about this the last time, Dave Hill and I bonded over our

connection with Chris Elliott and Adam Resnick. And that was your first movie, right? With those guys. Yeah, it was. One of your first movies. Yeah, second, but yeah. Okay, Cabin Boy One of your first movies. Yeah, second, but yeah. Okay, Cabin Boy. The first big one, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The first, like my first gig of really feeling like thrilled to be a part of something. Like, and couldn't believe that it was happening. Yeah. Such a great fucking time. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was fun. Oh, thank you, thank you.

Well, Gary, the show is, well, go to garygoman.com and you'll find out more about it. So yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's your best bet. Yeah, that's your best bet. And you're happy with it? You think it's in a good place that you, I mean, it would suck if you said like, no, I don't like it.

The whole thing is that I'm not that objective. Yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah. But I like it and I've gotten such great, I mean, great praise from people and critics alike, and so I'm grateful. And you can tell. And I can tell from the response of the audience.

You can tell the difference between, I liked it. The messages you get when you open up are different than the messages you get when you were just funny. Yeah, yeah. And it was a worthwhile challenge to try to be more than just funny. Not that I begrudge anybody who's like,

no, I just want to go out there and be funny, but it was a good test of my acting chops and also my performance ability to try to do something a little bit out of my comfort zone. I got to a point when we were in rehearsals with my director, his name is Moritz von Stupnagel, I got to a point when we were in rehearsals with my director, his name is Moritz von Stupnagel, and people say, is that a stage name? I'm like, yeah, he changed his name from John Smith to that.

No, but he was so wonderful and so patient with me. And I got to a point where I said to my wife, I said, I think I'm in over my head. I said, I don't know if I can learn all these lines and all the blocking and everything. And ultimately it worked out fine, but I think it's a sign of a good project where at some point you feel like you're over your head. And you're, because it's a challenge

and that's where the, I guess, the growth and the comfort with the next project that is challenging comes from. So I, everywhere from tying my shoes to making free throws, I always say, oh, I'm never gonna be able to do this well. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, my shoes are untied right now, but I'm capable.

Yeah, yeah. Now does it make you think, like, this is something, like, do you feel like the next thing that you do, you'll have to also put yourself through the emotional wringer, or is it like- Not the next thing, but maybe the next thing that you do, you'll have to also put yourself through the emotional wringer? Or is it like you've had enough? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give yourself a break for a second.

Yeah, I'll give myself a break and then come back to feeling again. That's why I asked. I just can put myself into those shoes and think like, yeah, you know what, I think I might be like, you know. It's like when I do improv these days, that's not the monologue kind of part, which is just, you know what, I think I might be like, you know. It's like when I do improv these days, that's not the monologue kind of part,

which is just, you know, but when I have done like scene work in the last few years, I always at the end of it feel like, cause it makes me nervous. And it is like an old skill that I have not been practicing and it is a different part of your brain. And I'll get to the end of, you know, whatever, an hour and a half show and be like,

okay, you know what, I did fine, and I had some good ones in there and stuff, and then I feel like, and that's fine, that's it. Yeah, like I do not need to do that again. That was good, you know? So that's, I just, I can see myself doing a show where I really spill my guts and then being like, okay, well, there you go.

There's the serving of guts that I'm prepared to serve and that's it. Yeah, you earn a break from that, I feel. Well, Gary, thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me. I've been looking forward to this. Yeah, yeah, it's always so great to talk to you. Thank you, yeah.

And everybody go see the show Grand Eloquent. I'm sure it'll be on somewhere soon. Yeah, Jada's going to produce it, so we'll just have to find a platform. Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, thank you for coming and thank all of you for listening. And I'll be back next week with more of The Three Questions. The Three Questions with Andy Richter is a Team Coco production. It is produced by Sean Daugherty and engineered by Rich Garcia. Additional engineering support by Eduardo Perez and Joanna Samuel. Executive produced by Nick Leow, Adam Sachs and Jeff Ross.

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