The Three Questions with Andy Richter - Jillian Bell

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

Actor, writer, comedian, and filmmaker Jillian Bell (Workaholics, Saturday Night Live, 22 Jump Street) joins Andy Richter to discuss her feature directorial debut, “Summer of 69,” starring Chloe F...ineman, her experience with The Groundlings, working with her sister, and much more.In Southern California? Come see the Andy Richter Call-In Show live for free at SiriusXM Studios in Hollywood. Visit http://siriusxm.com/andyrichterla for your chance at free tickets.Do you want to talk to Andy live on SiriusXM’s Conan O’Brien Radio? Tell us your favorite dinner party story - leave a voicemail at 855-266-2604 or fill out our Google Form at BIT.LY/CALLANDYRICHTER. Listen to "The Andy Richter Call-In Show" every Wednesday at 1pm Pacific on SiriusXM's Conan O'Brien Channel.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey Los Angeles, Andy Richter here. I'm doing a special taping of the Andy Richter Call-In Show live at SiriusXM Studios on Thursday, May 22nd, and you are invited. I am lucky enough to have two amazing special guests, the hilarious Rachel Bloom and the hilarious Chris Fleming. That's two hilarious people. You can sign up for a chance at free tickets at siriusexm.com slash AndyRichterLA, all one word. You can also find the ticket link in the description of this episode. Hi there, welcome back to The Three Questions. I'm your host, Andy Richter. And today I am talking to actor, writer, director, Jillian Bell.
Starting point is 00:00:45 talking to actor, writer, director, Jillian Bell. You've seen Jillian Bell in many things. She was an SNL writer. She was on Curb. She was on Workaholics, Eastbound and Down. And she starred in the movie, Britney Runs a Marathon. She wrote and directed a new movie called Summer of 69, which will be on Hulu, premiering May 9th. Also you can check out my show, The Andy Richter Call-In Show.
Starting point is 00:01:10 There is a link in the show notes for this episode and you can be a part of it if you call 855-266-2604. We do an episode every week and you could be a part of it. All right, now here is my wonderful conversation with the even more wonderful Jillian Bell. -♪ Can't you tell my love's no more? -♪ I was lucky because of my cheeks, because they're like, that'll keep you young forever. And I was like, my fatness will keep me...
Starting point is 00:01:34 Yeah, yeah, my infantile face. Yeah. You know, my little face. I was like, I'm gonna be a little bit more chubby. I was like, I'm gonna be a little bit chubby. I was like, I'm gonna be a little young forever. And I was like, my fatness will keep me. Yeah, yeah, my infantile face. Yeah. You know, my-
Starting point is 00:01:50 This little baby sitting on my cheek. Yeah, yeah, my continuing toddlerism. The constant Oreos I have will keep me young. Yeah. Thank God. No, I have had, and it's just like women in my life who will see, cause there's old home movies,
Starting point is 00:02:08 like super eight home movies of me as a toddler. And they're like, oh my God, you look this, like bodily dimension and everything, like large head to large shoulders to large butt. Like, it's like, you're the same dimensions. You're just an adult baby. I know. And it's like you're the same dimensions. They're like, look at you, you're just an adult baby. I know, and it's like, they're not wrong, but it's not great to hear.
Starting point is 00:02:30 No. It's a little emasculating. No. You know? No. It's not kind. No. It doesn't feel kind all the time.
Starting point is 00:02:38 I get it too. I've never been attracted to kind women. No. It's a real problem. Well, Jillian, thank you so much for coming in. I'm so excited to see you and to be here. I got to see the movie. They sent me a screener of Summer of 69, and it's so funny and so sweet.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I really loved it. Thank you. I'm so proud of it. And one thing that I really love is like, and this is also like as a father of daughters. Yes. Oh, no. No, no. It's, it is that like, and it's something, and it's gonna sound weird and it's gonna give like-
Starting point is 00:03:14 I can't wait. Fucking, you know, like people, you know, like QAnon people, but it's like, like you never see stories about horny girls. No. You never see horny girl stories. You never see it. And when I was a teenager growing up,
Starting point is 00:03:28 it was like, girls aren't horny. Like, you just never had any sense. I know. I know, because we weren't allowed to be. Yeah. And then you have a daughter, and they're like, horny from age two. Really? Well, just kind of, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, because there's all these hormones. The cool ones are. Well, there's hormones going through their body, you know, at different points in their development. And you're like, oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, there's, because there's all these hormones. The cool ones are. Well, there's hormones going through their body, you know, at different points in their development. And you're like, oh yeah, well that makes, of course that makes sense. Honestly, I didn't know you could be horny until like 32.
Starting point is 00:03:55 So, I went to Catholic school, I grew up Catholic, and everything about your body was just like, oh shame, shame, shame. Let's not address it. I remember going inside a chapel for my first sex ed class. We were in a chapel and they projected a picture of just a penis riddled with STDs.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And that's the first thing they show you? Yes, and that's the first time I had really seen like a picture of a dick because this is pre-internet. I mean, the internet was coming up, but it was like... I was visiting Justin Timberlake's number one fan site, you know what I mean, that was made by someone who just discovered the internet. And it certainly didn't have any syphilis dicks on it.
Starting point is 00:04:38 No. No. There was no genital warts on that one. But, yeah, I was just staring at the most torn apart dick I'd ever seen. And they were like, do you still wanna have sex? Cause this could happen to your vagina if you did. And then I was like, yeah, I won't visit that for a while. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:04:58 That seems like a lot of problems. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think that we should teach sex in a different way in Catholic schools. But I put that into the script. I made it that the lead goes to Catholic school because there's a lot of themes that tie into that as you go throughout the movie.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And I just felt like it was, there's room for a lot of comedy there. Like that bit about everyone being named after either an apostle or a luxury brand is truly it. It's either very rich kids that have names like Chanel, Tiffany, or they're named Matthew, Mark, you know. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. It was all Bible names. Yeah. Did you go to Catholic school? I did not, but I have, my ex-wife went to Catholic school and my current wife went to Catholic school. Okay Coincidental I don't think it's like a thing. I don't know you're into it. It's like
Starting point is 00:05:51 Although I I am I don't I mean I don't have I'm not I I'm sort of so thankfully unburdened by belief Great congratulations. Thank you And I don't even I don't even you know,'s, that whole thing, like, I don't believe, but I really wish I had the solace. But I'm like, who gives a shit? You know, it's like, you know, when you're dead, you're dead. You got a problem with that? Like, come on. Live now. But Catholicism is fascinating to me. And the Jesus story is fat. Like, if there's a Jesus movie on, unless it's like a real shitty, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:30 like Bible-beaten kind of thing. A low-budge. Yeah, yeah. A low-budge Jesus film you're not into. The Bible movies, Jesus stories, I love them. You do? I absolutely love them. And it's like, and I think it's the power of Christianity is that it's a compelling story
Starting point is 00:06:47 with stolen elements from all over the globe and, you know, virgin birth, like it happens all over the place, you know. You know, rising from the dead, you know. And then, you know, and it was just like the first sort of... It's a zombie flick. Yeah, it's a zombie flick, but with the monotheism kind of thrown in, even though there's the Trinity, so it's like, it's monotheism, but wait, there's three of them? But then there's three.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Oh, but there's just one, huh? That's a mystery. No, no, that's a contradiction. Yeah, I remember moving here and being like, at the time, I mean, I don't know if I consider myself Catholic. Now it's like Catholic adjacent. I feel like that's what every Catholic is. Like culturally Catholic, the way people are culturally Jewish.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Exactly. Yeah. But then I moved out here, and I met so many born-again Christians that were like, you need to meet Jesus. And I was like, I have my whole life. Like, they considered Catholic and Christian very different. Absolutely. Very different. That's Kennedy, you know, being president was a huge deal, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yeah. Was it Al Smith was the Democratic nominee and it was like all like, the Pope will be in charge, which is just bananas to think about that that was ever a serious concern. Oh my gosh. But you were a Las Vegas Catholic. What's a Las Vegas Catholic like? I mean- Odd. It is because it's- Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Piety in the center of sin, you know? It is. It is. We were the only Catholic high school. That was the one that I attended. And there's a lot of Catholic elementary schools though. So a lot of my friends went through those and then we all met at the high school.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And, but it is- Were you in a Catholic school all the way through? Yes. Completely, wow. Yes, yeah. Elementary and high school. And I don't know, I guess it kind of shapes you. It's a very weird thing to grow up in Las Vegas, period.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Yes. I mean, you walk- I would imagine so. Yeah, it's all like, you know, I was saying the other day that our CVSs and our grocery stores had slot machines. So I just thought that was normal. Until I went to a different state and I was like,
Starting point is 00:08:54 where is everybody gambling? Is it in the deli section? I don't see it. But yeah. Why aren't people drinking booze out of vases? And why doesn't everyone carry around hollowed out guitars filled with Long Island iced teas? I just thought that was so normal.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And like when my friend got her driver's license, my friend Sabrina, we would just cruise the strip. We would just go up and down the strip and yell at the people who were handing out porn pamphlets to people, you know, tourists on the strip. Yeah, and that was just like my, you know, growing up, my sister's first doctor was at Caesar's Palace.
Starting point is 00:09:34 It's like things that were so normal to us. What? There are doctor's offices and casinos and hotels? There was a whole TV show about it. Rob Lowe played Dr. Vegas, I think it was called. Oh, wow. And it was based off of this doctor. Sorry, Rob.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Oh, well, look, I'm sure it's streaming. Should we start? There's a TV. I'll ask him. He's under the Team Coco podcast umbrella, so I'll ask him about it. OK, yeah, yeah, yeah. Check it out.
Starting point is 00:09:58 But yeah, it's a very different experience. Like, my prom experience is so unique. Like, everybody would go and see a show on the strip, and then we would stop by the prom for like 20 minutes, take pictures, and then leave, and then go to a Vegas hotel and stay there for the night we stayed at the Luxor. And I just always wanted to write more about it because I'm like, it is such a specific thing.
Starting point is 00:10:22 You're right, people come to sin and forget about their lives and leave it in Vegas. And then we're all left in Vegas with all the sin in the air and, you know, and then going to Catholic school where basically everyone's sinning. Well, and it is odd, like your parents put you into a school that is going to teach you, like I said, piety, and you gotta live a certain way, you gotta live by Jesus' rules. But it's like, but wait a minute,
Starting point is 00:10:48 we are in the town where the entire tax base is based on sin. I know. How do you, it's like- I don't know, my dad- Did they have any sort of difficulty with that, or that you would hear or even sense from them? No, I think that they, you know, you're very sheltered, sheltered weirdly in Vegas. It's
Starting point is 00:11:10 very like suburb. Yeah. And then the strip. Right. And so, you know, there were so many- So you just don't go there much. You do, but like it's like to go, you go through- To the doctor. You go to the doctor. You go to a comped meal. Like everybody knows someone. It's all connected. It feels very mafia.
Starting point is 00:11:29 But it's like, I don't know, lighthearted mafia. I don't know how to describe it. It just feels very like weirdly safe. We know what the drama is in our town and there's a whole street dedicated to it and people go and they have fun and they get wild. And I don't know. It was like, weirdly, I just remember like riding my bike
Starting point is 00:11:51 around my neighborhood and it not feeling unsafe. So it felt like a normal suburb to me. I was in Henderson, like Green Valley area. Oh, right. Yeah, that's kind of the outskirts. Yeah, a little bit, but it's still like 12 minutes by freeway to the main area. And what did your folks do?
Starting point is 00:12:11 My dad was in advertising, and my mom was a stay at home mom. And- Was it somehow Vegas-centric advertising? Yes, he did a lot of stuff for casinos and restaurants and casinos. Like all of it was hotel-based. Right, right, of course.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Yeah. Yeah. Do you think that that sort of juxtaposition helped comedy? Yeah. I mean, I lived across from a couple that used to practice doing like bow and arrow acts where the wife would have an apple in her mouth. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Like there was a circus act across from us. Wow. And... That's great. I know. Oh my God, that's so fantastic. There's just so much there to unpack that I thought was normal until I got somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Yeah. And so yeah, I think... And it's also, you were probably bored by it. Like, you know what I mean? Oh, Elvis is so boring to me. I feel terrible about it because I never got to know Elvis as the rock star that he was. Sure.
Starting point is 00:13:14 He was this cheesy, thin impersonation that everyone did. So, yeah, there's definitely certain aspects of it where I go, oh, in some ways I missed out on that, but then in other ways, I got such a funny childhood. Yeah. Such an odd childhood. I was a very anxious, anxious kid though,
Starting point is 00:13:32 but I do think I was like, the way to happiness was making people laugh. Yeah. So I was definitely that kid like swimming with my dad every night after work, just trying to make him laugh. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And he was a good audience? Oh, he was the best. Is he funny too?
Starting point is 00:13:45 Is he funny too? He's very funny. He passed away 12 years ago, but he is, I mean, he was like teddy bear. We talk about baby cheeks. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he was that guy and like, just such a fun, light life of the party.
Starting point is 00:14:03 When he met my mom for the first time, it was at a party and he had a lampshade on his head and he answered the door. And my mother was like clutching her pearls, just like such a wallflower. So they're very opposite. So I got a little mixture of both of them in there. Growing up and in high school and so forth,
Starting point is 00:14:20 did you think that you could maybe do this for a living? It's all I wanted to do. Really? Yeah, I was super passionate about it. And you think Vegas made you feel that was possible? Maybe. I will say that there was an improv class I took when I was eight. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:36 So my parents knew something was up or just fell into the right class. Or were incredibly irresponsible. Exactly. That's too young to introduce a child to Yes Anne. It was no but until then. Yes. And then they, yeah, they dropped me off at this class
Starting point is 00:14:52 and I think they were like, ah, you have such a wild imagination. Like let it go free. Go, take it out on them for a while. Take it out on them, give us an hour. Yeah, yeah. I would just like get home and be like, and where are we at?
Starting point is 00:15:03 Are we at a Starbucks? Yeah, my older daughter that was, oh yeah, yeah. I would just like get home and be like, and where are we at? Are we at a Starbucks? Yeah. My older daughter that really. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Did she take improv classes? She did. They were here at her school. They had some, but she that she reached a certain age, like 13, 14. Yeah. And was like, I don't want to basically.
Starting point is 00:15:22 And I I think it's a kind like 13,, 14, and was like, I don't want anyone to look at me or address me. Yes. And there's like three years of that. Fair. And she was always interested, you know, she likes, like now she's in college and she's basically a film major. She loves movies.
Starting point is 00:15:43 She loves movies, she loves television, and I could really see her working in it, and possibly acting, but she had an interest when she was younger, and then it just kind of petered out, you know? And she was in a couple of like school shows, and she's, and I mean, I'm her dad, obviously, so I am a fan, but she- You're like, she sucks.
Starting point is 00:16:03 No, she's really, she was really good. And she... And I mean, the thing that I noticed, and it wasn't anything I told her to do, but, like, the hallmark of, like, kid acting in school, like, junior high plays, is that they only act when they're talking. Yes, and then they, like, shut down.
Starting point is 00:16:21 And then they just stop, you know, until it's their turn to talk again. And she was, like, one of the only kids that was acting all the time, you know. That's so cute. Yeah, yeah. So do you think she'd do something else with film and TV? Yeah, I think so. If not, maybe be a professor, a film professor or something.
Starting point is 00:16:38 But, you know, she's 19, so it's like, who knows? She have a favorite movie? Well, she has, and this is the other thing, she's now like a cinema student way before and has been for a few years. I went to film school. So I went through watching tons and tons of old art films and all these, went the last few years of school because I transferred into film school my junior, senior year, and I had gotten everything out of the way
Starting point is 00:17:09 so I could just watch movies and make movies and stuff. So it was a very intensive film thing. But she's like, her favorite is John Cassavetes. She loves John Cassavetes' movies, which I like John Cassavetes' movies too, but I also like things to blow up. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:28 For sure. Like plot that just doesn't stop, you know, like just, I like shit to be happening. So there's like lots of different sort of movies that should be like, let's watch this together. And also too, there's things like the succession. Like, she loves succession. Right. And to me, like, oh my god, these are all awful people who are disappointed with their lives.
Starting point is 00:17:52 They're miserably unhappy. That's not, like, I, there's no ironic detachment from that. Yeah. For me. Yes. So, like, she can look at it and like, look at these fucking crazy people and how miserable they are. Right. And I'm like, look at these fucking crazy people and how miserable they are. And I'm like, look at these fucking crazy people
Starting point is 00:18:06 and how miserable they are. I honestly have been looking at everything we're watching lately and I think we need a break. I mean, there is so much good television right now. It's like homework. And we're all so depressed and anxious. I know, I know. I feel like I'm apologizing half the time
Starting point is 00:18:23 cause it's like, no, I haven't seen that yet, you know? I know. The adolescence and the everything. I'm like, watching it like this. Oh, boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. ["Can't You Tell My Love's A Girl?" by The Caps plays.] Can't you tell my love's a girl? Directing this movie, I was like,
Starting point is 00:18:42 we need a light comedy right now. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, trust me, I'm still watching all of these amazing TV shows, but it is like, after a while, you're like, I need something to blow up or someone to stuff something in their butt for a joke. That's a classic joke thing. It sure is.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Someone stuffing something in their butt. You got a butt, you got a thing. There's a hole. Yeah, come on. Stuff it in there. It's begging for it. It's begging for it. Well, let's get to Summer 69, which is on Hulu.
Starting point is 00:19:13 When does it come out? It comes out 5-9, May 9th. So will this already be out? Who knows? Probably. Who knows? That's not my department. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:19:23 How dare I ask you that? I just come in here, I'm charming for an hour, and then I shut down for two days. Right, teen sex comedy. Yeah, yeah. It was never, um... It's something I thought would be my directorial debut. Especially about 69ing.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Right, right. I was never like, well, when I get in there, I've got to get something about 69. Yeah. What do you feel is the major message you want to bring to cinema? 69ing? Just 69ing. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:08 The most... The silliest sex move there is. Yeah, yeah, truly. That no one really enjoys. Truly. Yeah, yeah. No one's enjoying it while it's happening. You're just too busy. The only reason 69ing exists is to laugh and go, huh-huh, when you hear the word 69.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Yes, absolutely. When you, that's the number you pick at the deli, ha ha ha, 69. But the actual, the actual activity? No. No thanks. No thanks, anyone. Let's take turns. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Yeah, let's take turns. Let's take turns. That sounds nice. That sounds nice. Yeah, yeah. I got, sent the script, the original script, and I saw something in there where I was like, you know what? To direct?
Starting point is 00:20:47 To direct. Oh, okay. And I was like, you know, I want to take a pass at this. I really feel like there's something in the female relationship that is really interesting to me. Yeah. I, my best friend in the world is my sister. We're producing partners.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Oh, wow. We've lived together forever. We are just best of friends. And I just wanted something that could kind of like reflect that dynamic that we have and how important it was for me growing up to have that person that you can go to and go, am I normal? Well, five years.
Starting point is 00:21:19 So she's five years older. That can be like 15 to 20. That's a big important gap. Oh, yeah Yeah, oh, yeah, 10 to 15. I mean like, yeah, sure all the way along all the way along But like when you're you're becoming a young woman There's so many things like you were talking about of like women aren't horny when we were younger We thought yeah, it's like we don't know what's okay and what's safe and what's normal. Like normal is the big word.
Starting point is 00:21:48 And so I kept thinking, if I am gonna direct this movie, I really want it to feel, have a sort of a nostalgic feel, sort of a Johnny Hughes feel, because that's the movies I grew up loving. And I really wanted it to address certain things and talk about realities for young women and like how it's better sometimes. Like you think it's better if you get the guy off,
Starting point is 00:22:09 but it's actually better if you get off while you're doing that because like it's more enjoyable for both of you. It's actually more enjoyable for him too. If you're aroused and feeling good. Yeah, and it is so funny because that's so self-evident as an adult. It's like, well, yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:22:25 But to a kid, it doesn't make... Like I am, I think it's, I just remember a friend, a female friend of mine that's probably 10 years younger than me just talking about how, like, she's like, I gave so many blowjobs I didn't wanna give. And I was like, well, shit, I missed the boat on those. You know, like, I guess things happened in the 10 years. But I, but it is like.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I have that friend. Yeah. I know that friend. Yeah, yeah. Who just was like, this is what guys like. This is what you're supposed to do. So you're doing that until like, you know. It's what all the other girls are talking about doing. Exactly. You know. And it's nice to have someone who's older
Starting point is 00:23:05 and not too much older so that you're not like, yeah, this was back in your day. Right, sure. I kind of liked that it was like gonna be a coming of age film for two different ages for young women. 18 and 28 are those big moments where you're like, at 18 you're about to leave the nest, but you also feel this like insane responsibility to have lost
Starting point is 00:23:26 your virginity to have experienced stuff sexually, which now feels so young that we're older. Yeah, yeah. And, and then at 20- And which is probably 18 is probably pretty, on the average, kind of old-ish. I know, he's old. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what COVID did to the world, but you know.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Yeah. Yeah, that's going to change things probably. Yeah, yeah. But, but then at 28, you're sort. Yeah, that's gonna change things probably. But then at 28, you're sort of like, oh, my high school reunion is coming up and have I become the adult that I thought I would? Have I had the kids or had the job or gotten married or figured out how to be a complete adult?
Starting point is 00:24:02 And it's like, no, it's impossible. Well, I think too, like 18, you're like, I'm saying goodbye to being a complete adult. And it's like, no, it's impossible. Well, I think too, like 18, you're like, I'm saying goodbye to being a child. And then at 28, you're like, oh no, now I'm saying goodbye to being a child. Cause 20 to 28 still feels like in comparison. You're still on the same phone bill with your parents. Yeah, and the stakes are not as high.
Starting point is 00:24:23 You're still fucking around and trying to figure it out, you know? Yeah. And it takes a while. Look, I'm in a coming of age spot at 40. I'm at 40 and I'm like this, ooh. I'm 58 and I like, my line lately is like, the thing they don't tell you about this being alive thing
Starting point is 00:24:39 is that it takes four or five decades to get the hang of it. Yeah. It really does. Yeah. And I also think, I think there's something like, the other thing that I say is, like if you had the knowledge of a 50 year old
Starting point is 00:24:54 in like a 20 year old body, you'd be too powerful. Oh yeah. Like you would be trouble, you know. A lot of trouble. Yeah, yeah. A lot of trouble. And you know, yeah. So this came to me, I rewrote it for a couple of years
Starting point is 00:25:07 and then- Now did they say like, well, go ahead and rewrite it? Yeah, they said, they said, you know, there's some things that they wanna work on who had some notes for it. And I said, I love writing. Please let me take a pass at this. I did, we worked on notes over a couple of years.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And then, and then when it came time to direct, I was just, you know, obviously nervous, but I was so excited. Like I just, I feel like some of my favorite times I've been, you know, working with a director is when they've also been an actor and they know the vulnerability it takes. And they know that some days your personal life can be shit
Starting point is 00:25:47 and you have to come in and act like you just got a promotion at work in the scene. And it's very difficult. And so I feel like I came in with sort of the sense of like, I got all of your backs, let's do this. We have a fun responsibility to like come in with respect and I'm gonna lay out as best of a playground as I can for you guys and let's, you know, succeed and fail and
Starting point is 00:26:11 call it all wins. And it was the best time of my life, it was the highlight of my career and it's all I want to do now is just direct, direct, direct. I've only, I've directed, well, I mean, I kinda, you know, on the Conan show, you know, you write your own sketch and you, you know, there was a director, but you kinda, you know. You kinda do it. Yeah, you're the one telling them,
Starting point is 00:26:31 the performers what to do. Right. And you're the one, you know, you're overseeing the editing. So you're sort of directing it. Yeah. And then I've directed television commercials. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, it's fun. Did you enjoy it?
Starting point is 00:26:43 I love it, I love it. It's like, it's, it's fun. Did you enjoy it? I love it. I love it. I feel like I win a contest, like a beat the clock. Like, here's your list of chores. Now you've got 12 hours before overtime kicks in. Right. And it's just, it is, it's fun. And it's fun to be listened to.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Yes. Oh my god, it's fun to be listened to. Well, it's crazy going from like an actor where you do have a, look, there's a lot of power and, you know, big things that come with being an actor, right? Sure, and depending on, yeah, depending on how you play it, you can do a lot of what you want. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And you're also a person who's constantly asking to go to the bathroom. And or someone saying, no, no, you can't go over there or shoo shoo. Like it's- If you're on downtime and you decide you want to take a little stroll, you have three people on headsets chasing you down like you're trying to escape.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Yes, yes. And I always think, well, there are people that try to escape. So I understand, but I'm not one of those. Yeah, you have to assure them that you're not one of them. You're not a runner. I know, and directing, you're being asked a thousand questions a day.
Starting point is 00:27:54 And I would say about 700 you know the answer to, or you know about, and then 300, you're just faking it. Or saying, what do you think? Exactly. And when you're just faking it. Or saying, what do you think? Yeah, exactly. And when you're smart, you learn how to say, you're great at your job, what one are you into? Which color pen do you like? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:14 So I think this whole experience has been the biggest learning experience of my life, especially with trusting your gut. I have never had to listen to my gut more than directing. I mean, every single take you do, you're sort of like, are we good to move on? And then you're like, yes. And then someone comes up and goes,
Starting point is 00:28:36 I wonder if we should have gotten one that was like a little more subtle. And you go, God damn it, I knew that. Yeah, let's go for one more, one more, and we get it. And you're like, thank God we got that. Is your editor on set a lot of the time to tell you like you've gotten what they're gonna need? He came at the beginning for like a few days
Starting point is 00:28:52 and just like kind of seeing our vibe and feeling out what we were into. And then went back to New York. We were shooting in Syracuse, New York, but he's in New York City. And then when we had days where it was like, you know, we were scrambling and I was like, can you, you know, string this together
Starting point is 00:29:11 and just show me what we got for it? Because if we have to go back and reshoot something, I'd rather know now, you know? So he was helpful in that regard. And I was so thankful to have him on board so early because, you know, there's things where you get two takes and then they're like, we have to wrap for the day and we can't go back to that scene. And so I had to have him put stuff together and go, thank God we got it. Yeah, yeah. Cause you lose the location or,
Starting point is 00:29:36 you know, yeah, yeah. Or it's like a lot of our ladies in this, um, we're very wearing very specific, not only outfits, but like hair looks, makeup, nails. So it's like you go back. It takes a long fucking time. It takes a long time. Yeah, yeah. So you have to be really careful about like knowing in your gut if you got it.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yeah. And when you don't have that, the backup is the editor putting something together. Right, right. One thing about is that, and I mean, I do not, and I'm sure you've been asked this, or I'm sure you're going to be asked this, but like this is a movie that takes place a lot
Starting point is 00:30:12 in a strip club. Yes. And unapologetically calls itself a strip club. Oh yeah. And Paula Pell, who owns the strip club, has a great, where she's like, I'm not a dancer, I'm a stripper. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:24 But these women are not typical movie strip club women. You know? We have all types of women in this film. I love it. Yeah. And that's, and I mean, and that was, was that, did you meet any put, because I love it too. And I do think like, like, I imagine in a Syracuse,
Starting point is 00:30:42 a Syracuse strip club. That was a real Syracuse strip club called Diamond Dolls. It was. Yes. Oh, wow. By the way, we all took so much merch from Diamond Dolls. We all, they had like a little shop, and we were buying all of it.
Starting point is 00:30:55 And the ladies that are in the scenes that obviously don't have the lines, but they're all real dancers there. But I mean, it's different from like, say, a Vegas stripper and a Syracuse stripper. And like I say, I don't want to be shitty and look shamy, but I just love how real everybody in your club is and also just like how they're stars. Oh, they're absolute stars. And to answer your question, no, zero pushback. Nobody at Hulu was like,
Starting point is 00:31:28 can't we get like some big fake tits in here? No, I think that people are ready to see all types of bodies. And I'm like, thank God. Because like, you know, you watch old movies that have strip clubs and everyone, like, I can't relate to any of them because I'm like, I would wear that too if I looked like that. But I, yeah, I just thought like honestly when we were doing it I was like who are the funniest
Starting point is 00:31:57 and best people for this and then they all just kind of, we got like our top choices for them. I mean it was, we were so lucky. Yeah. Yeah. Can't you tell my love's a girl? Freaking Paula Pell, Paula Pell, that goddess, that legend came in and she is just so funny. And the first thing she said to me, she goes, "'Do you wanna show my tits?'
Starting point is 00:32:27 I go, I do and I didn't know how to ask and I'm so glad you said that. They look great. Just, yeah, you can show them. I go, great, because it's so exciting to me, spoiler alert, that if people are coming to watch this and be like, what are we gonna see of these stripper ladies? It's just like Paula Pell with her boob out and she's just looking freaking great.
Starting point is 00:32:48 And it's like, it's so exciting to me. She's also great because like, she could punch up everything. She punches up everything. Yeah, yeah, she could punch up other people's lines. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She's so, she's such a great writer and actor. And so we were lucky because a lot of the people
Starting point is 00:33:04 that came to do this, you know, are great improvisers She's such a great writer and actor. So we were lucky because a lot of the people that came to do this are great improvisers and writers themselves. I mean, Charlie Day. Charlie Day. Charlie Day came for like two days to shoot and just, you know, our crew was laughing the whole time. He plays such a great creep.
Starting point is 00:33:22 He is so disgusting in this movie. I also was really thrilled because I knew, like Nicole Byer, I love her so much and she's so funny and she's so great, but I've known her for a number of years and it was really fun to think like, she's been doing pole dancing for years. Forever.
Starting point is 00:33:40 And here now she can finally use it and get paid for it. Nicole. I mean, I don't know if she might be getting paid for it for all I know, but you know. Her extracurricular life is none of my business. She was in my lookbook. Like I was like, I want Nicole Byers. She is an amazing comedian,
Starting point is 00:33:56 but also an incredible dancer. And like- You see it in the, like there's a couple of like- Oh yeah. Where it's like, that is not a body double and that is her. Yeah, that is some impressive shit. That was one of my favorite days, was just letting all the ladies, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:12 the cast and then the ladies who actually work at Diamond, Diamond Dolls, just do their thing. And boy did they, and it looks so good in the film. And those ladies that work there are all a family as well. And that was another thing that was important to me about the movie is you see a lot of movies that take place in a strip club and there's, it's so seedy, it's so dangerous.
Starting point is 00:34:37 And I'm sure that's a big part of it. There's a sadness. And I was like, these ladies are happy. They like where they work, they're a family. I think yeah. And I was like, you know, these ladies are happy. They like where they work. They're a family. Yeah. I think that's really cool and really empowering. And I don't want to see a movie where the lead, Santa Monica, played by Chloe Feynman,
Starting point is 00:34:55 is fantastic. Who is fantastic. I mean, I love her on SNL, but just this is, you know, I'm so used to seeing her play so many different characters and all of them very like incredibly, I'm blanking on the word, just like she's a student of whoever she's doing, like well studied portrayals of people. And then she's just the same person and she's fucking great. Really, really great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:24 She's, I mean, unstoppable. And then getting to see her do this, I was so excited because I was like, you have been in some of the movies that come out, like, you know, it's typical. After SNL, you get offered a lot of parts where it's like, here's a crazy wig or here's a crazy accent to you. And this is a role that is a real woman
Starting point is 00:35:46 and you get to be like have fun moments and be broad and get to improvise, but it's still at the end of the day, a fully fleshed out woman that has a great arc. And I was like, I'm excited to see you do that. So it was like important for me to have people that like knew that, you know, although there can be situations like they go to a, um, she makes a house call
Starting point is 00:36:08 and it's a little bit seedy more than a little bit. And so there's reality there, but I did think it was nice to have like a DJ that's super respectful and kind of a feminist and looks out for these ladies. Like they do become a family. Or a very shy bouncer. I know, a very shy bouncer. It is so much fun. I came from groundlings and so like a lot of the specifics of my writing are in there of like what I think is funny and ridiculous and-
Starting point is 00:36:36 Now, when you sat out to rewrite the movie, did you know much about strip clubs? No, I mean, I've been to them. I've been to Jumbo's, which is so cool. Yeah, which also too is like, because there was a lot, like I was just, I was just talking to a friend of mine about this the other day, like about strip clubs in general.
Starting point is 00:36:56 And like, I think because we were talking about bachelor parties. And I was like, because I mean, now I've grown up, but like when I was younger, going to a couple of them and just being like, I do not wanna go with my high school friends while they get boners. You know, I do not- I never understood that.
Starting point is 00:37:13 I do not wanna be around these guys with boners. Right. You know, and so the only time I really, the times I've been in a strip club in my life were I was doing a show in New York and we really, the times I've been in a strip club in my life were I was doing a show in New York and the show was being produced by this old concert promoter guy.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And when we had a trip to LA and he took us all to like some fancy, before Century City was torn down, some fancy strip club in Century City. But it was like a mixed, like 18 mixed bag of like, gay, straight, male, female, a whole mix of people.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Then the other times was in my old neighborhood, there was a place called Billy's Topless. Great name. My ex-wife and I used to go there with friends because it was like a neighborhood tavern with women, like that she would call doing topless Tai Chi against a mirrored wall. And, you know, and it was, but it was, it didn't feel so gross and so like lascivious.
Starting point is 00:38:15 So I never, like I, Jumbos is like that too, you know. Jumbos is just impressive. I've been to Jumbos, but there again with a co-ed group, you know. Yeah, I went with a girlfriend of mine, Charlotte Newhouse. We wrote a show together and we took, we went with a couple of like our writer pals and she immediately was like,
Starting point is 00:38:38 oh, I don't have my credit card, can I borrow yours? And I was like, yeah. She blew like a thousand000 in eight minutes. On lap dances and stuff? She was like, I'm so proud of you. That's so hard. Look at your core body strength. I'm gonna make it rain.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Ew, oh, it's flooding. She was so proud of these women and so was I. I mean, the second they like clack their heels together, I was like, oh, it's like a powerful thunderstorm. But yeah, it's so impressive and so hard to do. I mean, I tried to do some moves myself just to be like- Oh, the pole stuff? Yeah, I couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Oh my God, it's unbelievable. I can't hold myself up. It's all your arms. You have to be so, so strong to do it. Absolutely, yeah. And to make it look effortless. Mm-hmm. So yeah, props to exotic dancers.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Yeah, yeah. It was either on the TBS show or when we had the Tonight Show, there was a Cirque du Soleil pole dancer. Oh, wow. That came and did the show. And she was doing it like 20 feet in the air. Like she used, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:46 like this whole giant Cirque du Soleil pole. Yeah. And it was amazing, really amazing, except for the fact that in rehearsal, when she was doing it, you could see all the bruises. Like you could see just from, yeah. Oh, like on her, like in her thigh probably? Because she would like let,
Starting point is 00:40:03 she would let go completely and then catch herself with her legs on the pole. So it's just like, oh yeah, you're always, and you know, by the show time, there was body makeup to cover it up. But it's like, that's brutal. I want you to know what I just thought of when you said that was that I feel like in my mid thirties,
Starting point is 00:40:23 my sister had to say to me, she had to sit me down and go, when you stub your toe, it is so dramatic, it could win an Oscar. I need you to pause when it happens, and I need you to remember that you can handle it. And so for me to imagine what it would take to not scream in agony when you slide down
Starting point is 00:40:48 a pole and catch yourself with your inner thighs. Yeah, yeah. That would be, I mean, I couldn't do it. I couldn't, yeah, no. I couldn't do it. I couldn't either. Poor pole. Poor pole.
Starting point is 00:40:59 It's bad for the pole. When you, did you come out here right after high school? I did, I came at 18. Yeah. Well, basically I went to, I went to UNLV for a semester. Yeah. And then I told my parents I was coming out here for what would be a semester, and then I would come back and go to school, and I was like, I know I'm never gonna do that. A semester of just kicking around, having a job, whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Like kicking a can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, trying to act. Doing auditions, you know, trying out for... You weren't like going to school here. No. It was just, I'm gonna go to LA and get my toe. I'm gonna see, you know, I'm gonna show my tits.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I'm gonna see what's out there. That's the saying, right? Sure. That's what I had to do. In Barstow, they made me whip them out on the drive in. Oh no, no, that's different. That's different. Oh really? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Oh well, I mean, I got a cradle oranges out of it. I know, you got the Barstow boob blues. Yeah, no, I was just like, let me come out, audition. My sister really was the one who pushed them. She's like, I'll live in LA, I'll... Oh, wow. Yeah, she went to college at USD, so she was in San Diego, moved to LA.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Oh, she was graduating anyway, so she's like, I gotta... Yeah, she was graduating. Yeah, wow. And she moved out here and was like, I'll start working at a talent agency and tell her what to do. Wow. I mean, that's how close we are. We look out for each other. So hard core.
Starting point is 00:42:28 And that's such like a secret weapon to have. Oh yeah. Wow, that's great. And then I started working at a talent agency. And that's what she wanted to do anyway, right? She wanted to do something, you know, in the industry. She wanted to like, honestly she wanted to work with musicians
Starting point is 00:42:44 and you know, and go on. She wanted to like, honestly, she wanted to work with musicians and, you know, and go on tour or be a publicist or a manager for a band. But this was like, okay, well, this is sort of similar. You're helping someone with their career and there's their artists. So, and so she started out being an assistant at a small boutique talent agency and then slowly became an agent and then a partner.
Starting point is 00:43:06 And then she left there and started producing with me. And this is the first film because it takes so long to make a film that we actually got to- I hear, I've never made one. I've never made one, but yeah, it takes so long to do anything. It takes forever.
Starting point is 00:43:22 So this is our first film we got to produce together. And how long, and it started like four years ago? It started like two and a half years ago. Okay. Like two or three years ago. But yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's, and just looking over after a scene
Starting point is 00:43:36 and seeing her at the monitor, I was like, oh God, I feel so safe just having another, it's like another set of your own eyes. Yeah. Like just justifying we got it. So yeah, so we moved out kind of together. She moved out and then I moved out. I mean, you appeared in a number, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Workaholics, East Bound and Down. So you're getting to be funny and people are getting to see you be funny, but how does that translate into somebody saying, yeah let's find a
Starting point is 00:44:10 script for you to direct? Oh gosh, just years of doing it. Yeah. Like honestly. Like grinding people down and like I want to direct, I want to direct. Well honestly for a long time I wasn't saying it out loud. Oh wow. Because I was just so like, you have so much to learn, Belle. Just keep learning. Just keep learning. And the more I was on set, you know, you learn so much from directors that are amazing. And then you learn also from the ones that are shitty. You sure do. And also the shitty ones, I always feel like, oh my God, if that person can do it.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Exactly. I can do it. That's 80% of my career engine is like, that fucker? Yeah. Oh my God. I had a director that was just so, just so hard to work with and took every suggestion from every member of the crew and the cast as a sign of like, you don't trust me, as opposed to being like, this is just a way I could put my stamp on it
Starting point is 00:45:07 if you'd allow me. And I just thought, wow, I wonder what it would be like to be on a set where the director has a vision and then just collaborates. That sounds really lovely. And it feels like a safer place to create. And you'd get better material from it because everyone wasn't so stressed out.
Starting point is 00:45:25 And it's also the thing that you just kind of, before you do anything, you assume exists. Yes. Yeah. Like that seems like... Like that would be the way. Like I have an idea and you have an idea and we figure something out. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:37 But personalities, egos, it all comes into play. And I had said to this woman too, I was like working with her, I was like, I just am curious why every time I walk on set, every member of the crew is staring at the floor. Like they've been told not to look at me. Like we need to be more positive on set. This is really hard to work in this environment.
Starting point is 00:46:01 This is when you were as an actor somewhere? I was an actor. And had you been told that? Or I mean, had they been told that, I mean? I don't know. I didn't know what was going on. And so I started doing a thing when I would come on set near the end
Starting point is 00:46:13 because it was still just like, it felt like someone was publicly fired every time right before I stepped on set. Was it a movie or a TV show? It was a movie. Okay. And so I would walk on set and I would go, hey everybody, how's the vibe in here?
Starting point is 00:46:26 Still fucking shitty? All right, let's go. And they'd all laugh and then it would kind of loosen things up. Right, right. Because it also, if you're like number one or number two on the call sheet, you feel that responsibility to make it lighter for people. Ideally, ideally, yeah. So I'm always amazed by people that don't understand an unspoken part of
Starting point is 00:46:47 your job as the guy or the woman or, you know, one of the mains is morale. Yes. It's your job. It is. It's morale. And people don't talk about it. We should talk about it more because the things I always hear when I watch these interviews with like big stars say is like, know your lines and show up on time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:12 And I'm like, but there, yes, yes. Yes, absolutely. That's kind of the bare minimum. Yes. There's also being a little bit of the captain of the ship. Yeah. There's the director, of course, but like if the director's not able to do that or sees things in a very technical way
Starting point is 00:47:29 and just addresses, you know, like doesn't welcome in the guests that are coming in to do a one day or a two day, then there's that, it feels anxiety ridden. It's, you know, it's too much. So I don't know, I do feel that responsibility and I do think it's an important one. Yeah, I have always felt that way. And I also too, I had a hunch when I started working
Starting point is 00:47:52 professionally that it was true. And now I know it to be true, that I don't care what kind of thing. And I haven't worked on like a super big heavy drama. But I've worked on a few different kinds of things. And I swear if you are doing everything you can to ensure that the people making the thing have a good day, it helps the finished product. It does. Especially comedy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:18 It is hard to make a funny show, TV, movie, whatever, if you're making it with miserable people. Yes. How is it going to be funny when it gets on the screen if everybody hates coming to work? It doesn't. I mean, there's a few cases where you hear that it did, but it's like those feel to me like more like miracles than the other way. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:40 That's thread and the needle. Why not just throw away the needle and just throw thread all over the room? You know? Yeah, no, I've always felt that way. And like you say, I've always felt that responsibility of, and also too, it makes your day nicer. It does. You know, like there's,
Starting point is 00:48:57 it's stressful making stuff. You feel a little under the weather or whatever, but mostly like, yeah, be nice, have fun. And you never know what anyone's going through. So that's the hardest part. People can be like, coming to work and, I mean, giving it your all, I mean, especially people who are like, PAs, they have to give, they have to deal
Starting point is 00:49:16 with so much crap. Work on a flat rate and just eat shit from every department. I've seen when actors like hide from them so they don't have to go to set. And I'm just like, you guys. It's so interesting. So it's kind of nice having gone from both sides of this. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Like, I mean, I worked as a receptionist for five years at a talent agency to then being an actor and then producing and writing and then now directing. And it's like, it's crazy how much you realize like, and I knew this to some level, but you don't really know it until you're in it as a director, how little the part of acting is in the actual making the film.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I mean, so much of it is the setup and discussing the shot and how we're gonna get it and how we're gonna make the time work and, you know, all the the setup and discussing the shot and how we're gonna get it and how we're gonna make the time work and, you know, all the things. And then the actors get there and you get five takes on one side and you're like, okay, you gotta feel good about that and move on. So you gotta really know what you wanna say to your actors
Starting point is 00:50:19 if you're feeling like something's off or if they're feeling like something's off, you know, so they can keep moving. I just think it's such a cool, it's a puzzle. Yeah. It's a constant puzzle. It's also like, and I think, like I've always said,
Starting point is 00:50:34 because like I said, I went to film school, I worked as a production assistant, I worked as an AD, I worked in props, all back in Chicago on commercials and industrials and things. That's so cool. So I have a very holistic understanding of what it takes. And I've often worked with people like talent who will be like,
Starting point is 00:50:52 what's taking so long? And I just think, well, you wouldn't fucking know, would you? Because you don't have any idea about what it takes to make this thing. Right. But I forgot what I was gonna say. But no, but I mean, I have always been able to appreciate sort of, like I said, the sort of holistic attitude, you know, and what it takes for every department to get this thing done. It's a miracle. Yeah. It's crazy miracle. It's crazy that every day, I mean, thank God, you're hiring people that you trust
Starting point is 00:51:27 and you hope for the best. But I will say too, the look on someone's face when they feel the comfort to pitch something and it works and it's like, yeah, let's try it. They feel their DNA go into the film. Yes, exactly. And it feels like, I mean, we had a camera op who pitched something,
Starting point is 00:51:50 and you know, that we push in on this shot of all the ladies going around the strip pole in the montage and then pushing in and out. And we're like, yeah, that would make it look really cool. And he was, it was make it look really cool. And he was, it was like it was his birthday. Absolutely. And to me, I'm like, more of that please.
Starting point is 00:52:12 I think it's just, it's so, it is so much fun making movie. It is the most stressful thing. It is the most creatively fulfilling thing for me, directing a movie. And so getting to do more jobs, I loved it. I remember what I was going to say. The thing about the acting part is I've always said I'm a member of the crew, but I do get my own place
Starting point is 00:52:34 to go to the bathroom and a little room to hide out in. A bench in a room. Yeah, yeah. But the reason that you get those little perks, I think, is because, like you said, there's a hyper, like you gotta do it and it's a hyper focus. It's a hyper focus.
Starting point is 00:52:50 It's a hyper focus for both the director and the performers that you do. Like, yeah, it took us four hours to set this up, but now we have about 15 minutes. Exactly. And you gotta be there for it, which, you know. Yeah, you cannot be like, shoot, what was it again? You know, there's some places where you can do that, right?
Starting point is 00:53:12 You have a lot more time to shoot. Yes, and it didn't take four hours to set up. Exactly. It took 10 minutes, so yeah, let's fuck around. Yeah, yeah. Or the opposite, where it's like a Marvel movie and you're like, we have a full day to get you flying up in the air
Starting point is 00:53:24 and saying just one catchphrase. Right, right, right. Right, exactly. So yeah, if you want to ask me of what the motivation is for that and why my character says the go-go gadget, we can do that. But for these type of movies, you don't have the time as much. And so you have to know the answers
Starting point is 00:53:41 or at least bullshit your answers very quickly. And the actors have to be the answers, or at least bullshit your answers very quickly. And the actors have to be at the top of their game, and we were really lucky they were. Yeah. Yeah. Going forward, performing directing, which wins? Do you want them to be a tie, you know? Directing is number one.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Yeah. That or writing. I really enjoy writing. Is it just fun or is there stuff like, like then you don't have to worry about the, just the rejection of acting? I honestly don't mind the rejection. I love it. I'm a weird...
Starting point is 00:54:17 It's fantastic. I'm a very weird actor. My agents have always told me this because I'm always like, that they should go with someone. I convince someone to not give me a very big job once. Yes, that's like a very popular TV show. And I was like, no, you should go with her. She's great.
Starting point is 00:54:38 So like, I'm the opposite. If I don't think it's right for me, I'm more like, yeah. Yeah, easy come, easy go. But I think a lot of that too is like, there's so much fear and anxiety for me around performing. When I can get in the zone of it, I feel really good about it.
Starting point is 00:54:54 But leading up to it, I destroy myself inside. So it's not as enjoyable for me as it used to be. I mean, I used to live for performing. I was such a little ham. And now I feel like as I'm getting older, I'm like, is it okay to maybe just see what is my new love? Maybe my new love is writing and directing.
Starting point is 00:55:15 And then when I feel like I can jump in and act in something and it feels like a fun thing to do, I'll do that. Or it feels like a really good role that would stretch me in a way that I'm like, that's a fun indie to do, I'll do that. Or it feels like a really good role that would stretch me in a way that I'm like, that's a fun indie to do or something like that. But like, is there a world where I can kind of branch out and do more of the directing and writing
Starting point is 00:55:35 and when the acting comes up, it's either something that I've written or it feels really, really right to do it. And I'd be really lucky if that was my life. I'm hoping that could be my life. Yeah. What about outside of work? What do you hope is forward with, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:51 in your future outside of work? I'm doing a lot of work right now on myself. You know, the work, the work. I sure do. I'm doing a lot of that. I would like, because I'm just a very, I'm a high functioning, very anxious person. So I'm working on...
Starting point is 00:56:10 Not being anxious? Just like actually allowing it for a little bit and seeing if I can just like sit with it and let it be. And then like, and then maybe it will be less hard than fighting it. I've been fighting it for a long time in my life. So at four a day, I'm trying to, you know, create new narrow pathways.
Starting point is 00:56:30 And that's really difficult. So my biggest answer to that would just be like, a peaceful existence. I have a wonderful family support system. I have an amazing fiancee. We're gonna get married. Oh nice, congratulations. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Do you have a date set? No, not yet. Okay. But I think probably sometime next year. Okay, well you should fucking get on the stick and pick a date. Well wait, wait a minute. Is it you that's fucking around?
Starting point is 00:56:58 Well, it might be me, because I've been in editing and doing all this stuff for this movie, so. Oh, now I feel sorry for him. Yeah. Poor guy. Do you wanna apologize to, now I feel sorry for him. Yeah. Poor guy. Do you want to apologize to him? I'm sorry. For how mean you were?
Starting point is 00:57:09 There you go. Wait, what's his name? Luke. Luke, I'm sorry, Luke. I just assumed that you were the one that was dragging your feet. Being dragged to the altar. Why did you assume it?
Starting point is 00:57:21 But it's you. I don't know, because you're here and it's easier to make him the bad guy because he's not here. Yeah, I feel that. Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome Luke Beckett. What the fuck? Here he is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Well, that's great. Yeah, so there's like good life stuff coming, but I'm also like, you know, you have waves in life and I'm just in a little bit of the way right now. Do you guys live together? He's about to move in in the next couple months, so I'm excited. Yeah, then the getting married part is like, you can do that whenever.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Yeah. Well, and did you finish what you wanted to do outside? Get less anxious and said you got a good support structure, family, fiancee? Everyone is like, I have, yeah, I'm like, what else do I wanna do? I don't know, I wanna find ways to be creative that aren't a part of our business
Starting point is 00:58:13 and that make me feel good and they're just for me. I get that. I have certain things that I love doing that are just for me, like swimming is one of my favorite things. I love being in water. I like going for walks with the dogs and doing tarot cards sometimes for fun.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I don't know. Satanist. Wait a minute. They're just spirit guys. Yeah, they're just a portal to hell. They're just little demons. Just inviting demons in. That's why I'm so anxious.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Come on in, guys. No, but there's like little things I like to do, but I do feel like where my brain works best is when I'm heavily involved in a project and I want to find the balance. I see. So that's where I'm at right now. I recently took, for Christmas, I got pottery classes,
Starting point is 00:59:04 wheel pottery classes. and within about three classes I realized, this is too fucking hard. It's hard? I was just like, I can't. When my big clumsy paws, I just was like, I can't do this. Yeah, I've always wanted to try that. Even my instructor who was wonderful, she's like, maybe you should try a hand building.
Starting point is 00:59:24 You know, like building pottery by hand rather than on a wheel? Yeah. And I was like, yeah, you're probably right. I probably should try hand building. She goes, get out. Yeah, yeah. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Well, and also too, crouching over a pottery wheel is the worst possible position for my 58-year-old back. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. It was like, it would cause me physical pain to try and use the pottery wheel. To make a little pot. Yeah. And then in addition to it just being difficult and being like, fuck it, I just
Starting point is 00:59:53 was like, okay, yeah, I'm not gonna do it. Yeah. Have you found the replacement hobby? Watching TV. I know, I love watching TV. Oh, TV. No, and I have a five-year-old too, so that's, I don't get hobbies much. Yeah. I mean, yeah, not when somebody's jumping on your torso. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Do you get a hobby? That's not great for the body either, but that one's fine. It's okay. Yeah. It's okay. Yeah. What do you think is the main lesson you've learned out of this path. And especially coming into this, having this wonderful opportunity
Starting point is 01:00:27 and now having it come to fruition and the baby's about to go out into the world and be judged. I know, I know. Thank God we've gotten, because we premiered it South by Southwest first. And so we've gotten some of the bigger reviews out of the way and they've been good. So I'm like, thank God,
Starting point is 01:00:45 because I've jumped off a bridge. It's really, I loved it. I really, it was really a sweet, funny movie. Thank you. But what do you think is the biggest thing you've learned? The most helpful sort of thing? To trust my gut and to allow for compassion and grace. And I think the thing I'm still learning, and to allow for compassion and grace.
Starting point is 01:01:09 And I think the thing I'm still learning, but it's front of mind is that, I've been on this earth for 40 years, to some that's not a lot, and to some that's very many, too many for a young person. But I think like just trusting in that journey that even if you kind of go down a different road, it's gonna be okay.
Starting point is 01:01:32 There's, you gotta just trust yourself and know that it's not always gonna be smooth, it's gonna be a little rocky, but you're gonna be able to handle it. Yeah. And just have a good support system always and like the, and reach out to people. I think, I think that's it, is like, just trusting yourself a bit more,
Starting point is 01:01:51 and also when you don't have your own back, reach out to people who, who will. Who do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's pretty good. I guess I'm gonna sign off on that.
Starting point is 01:02:03 You will? Yeah, yeah. Oh, he's, guys, he's physically signing off on it I'm gonna sign off on that. You will? Yeah, yeah. Oh, he's, guys, he's physically signing off on it right here in the studio. Yeah. Oh, there's cameras. Initial here, initial there. The Summer of 69.
Starting point is 01:02:14 It debuts on Hulu May 5th. May 9th. You can think of 5-9 for 6-9. You know what I mean? Ooh, damn. You should write the advertising too. I know. Five Nine, the summer of 69, very funny movie,
Starting point is 01:02:31 I really enjoyed it. And Jillian Bell, thank you so much for coming in. Thank you for having me. It's always lovely talking to you. Oh, thank you, thank you. You're just a great human. Oh gosh. I hope you get told that a lot.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I mean, there's a few people that like me. Well, call me. I'll tell you every day. All right, yeah, yeah. Wake you. I mean, there's a few people that like me. Well, call me. I'll tell you every day. Okay, all right. Yeah, yeah. Wake you up. Hello, I need it. I go, you're a great human.
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