The Three Questions with Andy Richter - Kyle Mooney

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

Kyle Mooney joins Andy Richter to discuss his directorial debut, "Y2K," why he decided to leave "Saturday Night Live," his love of baseball, the early days of YouTube sketch comedy, and much more.Do y...ou want to talk to Andy live on SiriusXM’s Conan O’Brien Radio? Leave a voicemail at 855-266-2604 or fill out our Google Form at BIT.LY/CALLANDYRICHTER. Listen to "The Andy Richter Call-In Show" every Wednesday at 1pm Pacific on SiriusXM's Conan O'Brien Channel.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi everybody, welcome back to The Three Questions. I'm your host Andy Richter. This week I'm talking to Kyle Mooney. Kyle is a hilarious comedian, actor, and filmmaker, and he was a cast member on SNL from 2011 to 2022. His directorial debut, Y2K, is in theaters now. Here's my conversation with Kyle Mooney. Hi. Hi, Kyle. Hey, Andy. How are you doing? I'm good. I'm good. How are you? I think pretty good. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:00:40 Yeah. I know major complaints. I'm traveling tomorrow, so... Are you promoting a movie? Yes. The movie, yeah. Y2K. Y2K, this movie that you have directed. How was that? It was great.
Starting point is 00:00:53 I mean, I feel like I had a lot of help, you know what I mean? And I wrote it with my friend and partner, Evan. You need to stop that. I just can't, I'm not. You need to stop admitting that you have help with things. You do it yourself. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Evan Schmevin. Fair enough. Yeah. I crushed it. No, I know. No, listen, I am totally lost without other people. Yeah. I mean, I was an improviser, not a standup. I am totally lost without other people. You know, I mean, I was an improviser, not a standup. And then-
Starting point is 00:01:30 You gotta listen to the other folks on stage. I was a talk show sidekick. Right. That was not an accident. It was like, I needed to be, you know, with somebody else up there. So I totally understand it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Well, yeah, somewhat, honestly. If that was wrong when I said that. It's not, it's not, it's okay, it's okay. No, because it is kind of true. It used to be much more unhealthy than it is now. Now it's kind of like, what do you think, you know, like a beneficial bacteria, you know, like that I used to digest life,
Starting point is 00:02:05 my co-ependence, whereas you used to just be a way to let life fuck me over. Yeah. I feel like I'm gonna need more information generally to make the analogy, like make full sense in my head, but I do trust you wholeheartedly. Give it some time. At the end, we'll have a metaphor off. Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:25 That sounds challenging. So have you been promoting like, oh, out? Yeah, this week, this upcoming week will be relatively intense. And it comes out- December 6th. December 6th, all right. Well, that's cool, because it's like Christmas, you know? That's like, that's a stamp of approval
Starting point is 00:02:44 from the powers that be. From Santa. And from Santa. And Krampus, you know. Yes, Krampus, yeah, yeah. Because the movie could be naughty or nice, you know. It's got a little both to it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Well, that's really awesome. I mean, are you nervous? Like, are you someone who sweats? Like, oh my God, what if it crashes and burns? What if it faithfully fails? Yeah. Sure, there's nerves. I mean, yeah, being, there was money put into this thing.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Right. Like, and my name is attached to it. So like, I hope it and want it to do well. Yeah. With that being said, like, I'm not losing sleep over that at the moment. Do you know what I mean? And like, every time we show it to people,
Starting point is 00:03:27 they're so wonderful about it and it feels positive. This moment feels positive. That's good. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, but honestly, there doesn't seem to be any use in feeling like, oh my God, what if it fails? What if it fails? Because what the, you can't do anything about it
Starting point is 00:03:45 other than what you've already done, you know? Truly. And sell it on podcasts like this one, where this podcast on average for movies sells like four tickets. I'm gonna give you some of this right here. Sorry, it's a backhand. No, no, no, it was.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Yeah, yeah. It's all good. So yeah, this, if you do well, this could be for possibly five tickets that you sell. Well, this is four people total in the room right now. Right, right. Yeah, we'll go. I'm not gonna buy a ticket.
Starting point is 00:04:12 We'll go. Maybe I will. I'll wait till it streams, honestly. Okay. Yeah, yeah, I don't like going out. I get mobbed. All good, I just like, I could really, really use you out there, Andy.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Oh. I'll go, what I'll do is I'll just stand outside the theater and go like, Oh my God! Y2K, I just saw it. Fantastic. That is valuable. Like a town crier. I don't hate that idea. Is that a one-time thing?
Starting point is 00:04:43 No, no, I do that. It would be like a Salvation Army bell ringer. Okay. But just, you know, stand. I feel like I should hook you up with the folks at A24 because I do think this is a good promotional move. Honestly, and if, yeah. If I get, and I may get some sort of like, you know, sponsorship money. Mustache. Yeah, yeah, sponsorship money for the, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:04 or hashtag thing going for my Instagram account. Do you live here now? I do. In LA? I do. Cause you're a San Diego fella. I'm from San Diego and I lived in New York for quite a bit. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:17 But yeah, no, I live here. Do you like living here or would you live in San Diego if you had your preference? I don't, well, I don't wanna let my San Diego brethren down with this answer, but like, I do like LA quite a bit. I went to college out here and I lived here before I moved to New York. All right, you went to USC, didn't you?
Starting point is 00:05:36 Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I like, I mean, like, I would love to be able to go back and forth between San Diego and LA if I could like, Yeah, I mean, I would love to be able to go back and forth between San Diego and LA if I could, if things were going in a way that I could afford another space or a machine.
Starting point is 00:05:56 After this thing, this movie catches fire. You'll be able to have like- That's what I'm hoping. I'm hoping the movie does well enough that I could buy a boat in San Diego. From here down to La Jolla, you could have like six different homes, like just depending on how far you felt like driving.
Starting point is 00:06:11 How good the movie does. How good the movie, right, exactly. I was at a Dodgers game and I ran, I don't know if Tim Heidecker told you. He did tell me. But I was at a Dodgers game with some friends and we ran into Tim and he was wearing like a khaki baseball cap.
Starting point is 00:06:28 And he said that, because he was at the game with you and it was at Padres game. It was Padres Dodgers. And you were there with like muckety mucks from the Padres. I was there with the Padres organization essentially. We've become pals with a lot of the people over there and they gave us our tickets.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Yeah. So yeah, I was like, Tim, you can't really wear the Dodger. Would they really be bummed if like you brought a local boy and he repped the local team? I can't say. Or you're just being careful. I can't say for sure.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Yeah. But like, I think there is a little bit of like, I've heard whispers of like, hey, you know, it's nice to sort of be respectful. I guess, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I guess that does make sense, yeah. I mean, I've never been invited by the muckety mucks of any team. Dude, come down,
Starting point is 00:07:15 come down to the gas lamp district with me, brother. I actually, no, I have, I've never been in, it's Petco Park, right? Yeah. I've never been inside, but I got this feeling like when I've been down there, because we used to go down and do Comic-Con shows down there. So I've spent a fair amount of time in San Diego with time to burn, just hanging out. And I'm like, it would be so sweet
Starting point is 00:07:39 to live in that neighborhood and have that part. It's kind of like Wrigley in Chicago. It'd be so cool to just- Walkable. Yeah, it's like, like Wrigley in Chicago. It'd be like so cool to just- Walkable. Yeah, it's like, I'm just gonna go to the game tonight. And it looks like a really cool park and I would love to see a game down there. I really do recommend it.
Starting point is 00:07:54 It's really lovely. Are you a big Dodger fan? I am, yeah, pretty much. It was Cubs Dodgers for the longest time. You're from Chicago. I'm from Chicago. Yeah. And for years.
Starting point is 00:08:07 So who were your, who were your Cubs growing up? My Cubs growing up, well, they were, the big one was like Ryan Sandberg. Okay, yeah. It was a Hall of Famer, he was there. But when I was a- I play Immaculate Grid every day. So I, do you know what that is?
Starting point is 00:08:20 I don't even know what that is. It's a game for your phone or computer or whatever. Like fantasy, fantasy baseball kind of thing? It's a game for your phone or computer or whatever. Like fantasy, fantasy baseball kind of thing? It's a trivia, it's a daily trivia game where it's a grid of nine squares and it'll be like on the left column, like the Atlanta Braves, the Chicago Cubs,
Starting point is 00:08:35 the San Diego Padres. And then on the top column, it'll say the San Francisco Giants, St. Louis Cardinals, MVP. And you have to like figure out who played for the Cardinals and the Braves, who played for the Cardinals andants, St. Louis Cardinals, MVP. And you have to like figure out who played for the Cardinals and the Braves, who played for the Cardinals and the Cubs. And so you're filling in players throughout the history of baseball.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Yeah, that's way too deep for me. All of this to say that I know Ryan Sandberg, I know his rookie year was with the Phillies. Yeah, yeah. But the ones that I was, when I was a kid- Stole 30 bases, multiple times. And he had perhaps the most, like he had a terrible voice
Starting point is 00:09:15 and then went into broadcasting with a Midwestern accent like that. And there was another Chicago announcer that was like that too, you know, like kind of wouldn't. That's cool. Yeah. But my favorite player when I was a little kid who was a Cub for a minute was Rick Monday,
Starting point is 00:09:34 who now does the radio play-by-play for the Dodgers. And the most famous thing he did was when he was a Dodger, he prevented somebody from lighting a flag on fire in the outfield. I first learned about that in a comic strip in a baseball card collecting magazine, probably 1995, Beckett Baseball Card Monthly. Yeah, that's what he did.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Iconic. Yeah. And he was a good player. That's what he did, yeah. And you know, he was a good player. Anyway, we've alienated most of the audience at this point. Or people are like now getting into it. Right, right, they're calling their friends. You've gotta listen to Moody and Richter.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Start at 7.45. Are you that way with lots of sports or is baseball your thing? No, baseball is my thing and like I truly like, I was super into it as a kid. And then by the time I got into high school, I sort of fell out of it and got into, it was really, I made a lot of music
Starting point is 00:10:40 and then I got into comedy and performing and stuff. And so I fell out of it for a long time. And then it really is when I got out of Saturday Night Live, which was like probably two or three years ago that I was like, oh, I wanna, I do actively wanna try to get back into it now that I have like some more time. Yeah, I was totally late onset baseball fandom,
Starting point is 00:11:00 went through, because as a child, I was taken to Cubs games and they were always around and then Cubs, Bears, you know, was always around. And I never really, you know, like I didn't have like a lot of like a strong father figure. Sure. You know, my dad is a gay college professor who's really into opera. So I didn't have a male modeling like this is you got to get you know, that's always like my mom like my mom taught me to throw
Starting point is 00:11:30 a baseball. My mom is is very butch. And she taught me the same way that her brother taught her, which is to stand you against the garage and then throw the ball as hard as you can. And you just have to catch it and she could throw the ball really hard as you can, and you just have to catch it. And she could throw the ball really hard. That's tight, that's awesome. But I wasn't, you know, I kind of was like, and I played sports, but I didn't really care. But then I did find myself like in my forties, all of a sudden, especially for playoff baseball.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Yeah. It's really, you know, and I think also too, like just at a certain point, I realized like, oh, this is all about tension, buildup and release. Like it's just, it's sort of like watching a horror movie in that you're creating stress that wouldn't, that if you didn't turn on the TV, you wouldn't be having stress that makes you feel
Starting point is 00:12:23 like you're gonna die over a game. And then, and with every pitch, there's the buildup of it and then the release of it and the buildup of it. Yeah, it is really, yeah. And it is a lot. And I find myself like actually like sort of moving with that buildup physically, you know, in my seat, like, oh, you know, like a lot of like kind of almost
Starting point is 00:12:43 standing up fully, but like not actually fully getting up, if that makes sense. Absolutely, the first game of- Or a lot of just like kind of twist. I was, the first game of this year's World Series, the one that went to 10 innings, I was standing. I was like having to stand. You were at home or? Yeah, I was at home by myself.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Everyone else was home, but they didn't give a shit, and they were in somewhere else. But I was like hugging a cushion, like just like, yeah, I was at home by myself. Everyone else was home, but they didn't give a shit and they were in somewhere else. But I was like hugging a cushion, like just like, and going, phew, phew, phew. Like, and being like, this is a baseball game. But a very exciting way to end that baseball game. Oh, it was an excellent baseball game.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now it says here, you brought up high school, it says here, in middle school you were chosen
Starting point is 00:13:32 the most likely to become a television star. Yeah, that's almost foliac. I think it was most likely to be a movie star. Oh really? I think that's what it was, but also you're you're gonna have to consult the- The yearbook? Marshall Middle School. Class of 98. Well, I mean, were you kind of like a class clown
Starting point is 00:13:52 kind of kid or? I was, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm the youngest of three boys and they were all, they're all funny guys. Yeah. But yeah, I was also like a bigger kid and yeah, I think it was sort of maybe a little bit of a defense mechanism, but I love,
Starting point is 00:14:13 yeah, I love to make people laugh. Bigger kid like isn't taller or you're chunky? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, gotta be funny. Yeah, yeah, that was, it became my thing, I guess. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And at the time, were you thinking about doing it as a-
Starting point is 00:14:27 As a career? Yeah, yeah, it's like something that would be worthwhile. The goal was always to be here. In this podcast video? Yes. Yes. How prescient to know that there would be a thing called podcasts.
Starting point is 00:14:40 No, I mean, I loved TV and movies, generally speaking. Again, I played like, I was really into music and I played guitar and then like later in high school I got really into hip hop and made beats and stuff like that. But I didn't, I never thought of it as like a realistic thing. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Only when I went to college out here and then sort of got more immersed in improv and sketch did I start to sort of observe and realize that like,
Starting point is 00:15:14 oh, it's not as massive as maybe you think it is, like just the pool and the sort of general circle of the entertainment industry or something like that, you know what I mean? And like, I knew people who were landing commercial jobs or whatever it was, and then it started to feel like a little more realistic and potentially viable, like, oh, maybe I can pursue this. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah, that definitely happened to me coming out here. I came out here with a show that had started in Chicago and definitely felt like this is a showbiz town, but like there can't like, no, not everybody can be Tom Cruise. Right. You know, like there's gotta be, there's people making a living at this thing that we, I don't know their name, you know, but they have a house and family and, you know, cars and a life.
Starting point is 00:16:07 So I was like, oh, okay, this, you know, it started to make more sense as opposed to like wanting to be an astronaut. Yes. And like, well, no, just wanting to be in a craft that takes, that's a little tough to get into and that there's a lot of rejection, but it is. It's not like there's only 12 people doing it.
Starting point is 00:16:27 No, no, no, no, yeah. Yeah, not to say that it's not incredibly difficult, obviously, you know what I mean? But yeah, I felt like in college especially, like doing comedy and seeing that there was an audience for what I was doing audience for what I was doing and for what I was doing with my friends, it felt like, okay, maybe there is something,
Starting point is 00:16:51 I or we have something special and like, yeah, this can carry on into something, yeah. You did a lot of work with friends. Yeah. And you started, you know. I love friends, I love buddies, pals. Well, but now you did that, but you did that as opposed to say like being a standup comedian. Yes, started, you know. I love, I love friends. I love buddies, pals. Well, but now you did that, but you did that as opposed to say like
Starting point is 00:17:07 being a standup comedian. Yes, yeah, yeah. And was there ever in your head, like, did you think like I wanna be a standup, like what made you go, no, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna make sketches with my friends and put them on YouTube as opposed to I'm gonna go down to the chuckle hut and get in line,
Starting point is 00:17:22 you know? I think, I want to articulate this. I feel like generally, I mean, going back to what we were talking about earlier, I do like having that support and I am a nervous person and I'm not like incredibly confident in the way that I want to go and do something on my own. I don't know that I ever have been. Yeah. in the way that I wanna go and do something on my own. I don't know that I ever have been. Like I get off more on like kind of making another person laugh or enjoying the experience with someone else than I do being out there solo or doing it on my own.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Me too, a hundred percent. I mean, I always, and I've always been that way too, like in the, you know, like the audience. I was just kind of like, eh, you know. Yeah. Oh, that's nice that they like it and everything, you know, but I always was like, no, it's like, making Conan laugh, or I've said it a million times,
Starting point is 00:18:16 like if I could see the cameramen were laughing, I would be like, oh, okay, that's the good stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and obviously, I mean, I have a ton of respect for those folks who wanna go out and be on their own, but yeah, it's a fully- Not an ounce of respect. That's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:18:38 But yeah, yeah. It just doesn't suit me. It doesn't, it doesn't like, I don't know. It's like, it feels too lonely or something. But did you, you've done it, I imagine. You've done standup. I've done standup, but only like after I had been on television and it was like an easy kind of,
Starting point is 00:18:57 like I'd get like booked to do a sketch festival through a friend of mine. And then they'd be like, oh yeah, you're doing 10 minutes on your own. And I'd be like, oh, I thought we were gonna do something sketch thing, no, no. And what do you do? Do you riff?
Starting point is 00:19:15 Right, no, I think of an idea and write it up, you know, and do it, and with varying success. And then at the end of it, think to myself, did I like that? Like, do I want to do more of that? And I would be like, not really. I liked doing it. I liked that I was able to do it. I liked that it wasn't a disaster.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Like it wasn't like the greatest thing ever, but it wasn't a disaster. I don't feel like anybody felt cheated out of their 10 minutes. Oh yeah. But I just was like, nah, I'd rather do something with people, you know? It also is arguably, I would say more of a grind,
Starting point is 00:19:56 like to do multiple shows over the course of the evening, to drive around town multiple times and to go to different clubs. Like that is not that appealing to me. And to say the same things over and over too. That was the part that I was always coming from improv, getting to know standups, like especially when I came to New York to do the Conan show
Starting point is 00:20:17 and they got to know different standups and would be like, oh, you're doing a show, I'll come see you. And then you go see your friend. And then a week later you go like, oh, you're doing another show, I'll go see you. And then you get to go see your friend and you're a week later, you go like, oh, you're doing another show. I'll go see you. And then you get to go see your friend and you're like, oh, right.
Starting point is 00:20:27 It's all the same stuff. Right, right, right. You're going to say the same things. And it's like, yeah, because that's how it works, you know? And I just was like, oh, I wouldn't want to, I don't know. It just is like, I guess I got spoiled by improv because we were always, it was always different. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And I have a terrible attention span. So, you know, a terribly short attention span. So it was helpful to me. Well, you're doing great right here. Thank you, thank you. Thank you, Carl. Well, tell me how did you, I mean, how did you and your friends start, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:01 just like you'd come up with sketches and go out and shoot them? Was that in high school you were doing that or? I mean, yeah, I definitely like made home videos with friends in high school. Yeah. And yeah, always like watched SNL as a kid and was super into the popular comedy movies of the era.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Yeah. But yeah, when I went to college, I auditioned for the improv troupe at USC. And there, the same weekend I auditioned, I auditioned with Beck Bennett, who ended up on SNL with me and my friend Nick Rutherford, who wrote at SNL for a year. But we really gelled. We were in this bigger group, Comedis, Interruptus, and everybody was so funny. It was really refreshing. But over the course of the time at school,
Starting point is 00:21:49 working together, we just had a really good rapport. And my other friend I grew up with, Dave McCary, was essentially living with me the whole time. And we started making- Wasn't going to school, just had come up here to- He went to film school north of LA for a little bit, but eventually just sort of committed to just living with us and like trying
Starting point is 00:22:10 to make a living for himself, editing and things like that. But yeah, we would do a sketch show once a semester, we'd write stuff, we'd do improv every week, and then eventually we started making videos, and at the end of school, it was sort of like, oh, we should, maybe we can pursue this. Maybe we can be a group.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And I will say like, we had the sort of roadmap of other sketch groups, you know what I mean? Like there was, we saw Lonely Island make the jump from the internet to SNL. At the time there was like, Tim and Eric was on Adult Swim, Human Giant was on MTV. So there was a little bit of a blueprint of like, oh, this is something that people are doing.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Let's form a group, let's make videos. And it was also the birth of YouTube. I feel like when we started, YouTube just began. And so we did a bunch of live shows, we made videos, and eventually it felt like the videos were the thing to sort of pursue. And how do you start getting, I mean, cause I never did that.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I, you know, like I did it the old fashioned way where, you know, I became a sidekick on a talk show and got hired to be on TV. So I, you know, and that's, you know, like I got, I just recently, the director of the TBS, Conan, is now teaching TV production at Cal State Northridge. Cool. And had me come talk to the class. And I feel like, I don't know what to tell them,
Starting point is 00:23:41 like how to get a job. Like it's so because I'm like I don't know go I guess make stuff for the internet you know sure sure sure like how do you how do you get traction when you start putting things on to YouTube yeah well I do think that it is always evolving and yeah the game has certainly changed from 2007 or 2008 when we started putting out videos. I do, I kind of like, when I'm asked that sort of question, like what is my advice, I do like kind of, my blanket sort of generic answer is,
Starting point is 00:24:16 I do feel like surrounding yourself with persons who are talented or make, you know, forced you to work better or be better or be smarter or be funnier has always worked for me. And also surround yourself with people who are critical of your work. And you know what I mean? I feel like it's very easy to put something out there.
Starting point is 00:24:41 This is my thing. This is what it is and not listen to those you trust. And like a lot of it is that, is like fine tuning and knowing that what you're making is not perfect. I don't know if that's fully relevant to what we're talking about. Well, but I mean, like when you put it on, you guys start a channel, you put it on YouTube,
Starting point is 00:25:01 do you just kind of see it naturally grow? Are there things that you do specifically that we- Yeah, it was- Because there has to be a point where you're getting like a hundred views and then all of a sudden you're getting a thousand and then it's 10,000. Our thing was, there was a moment,
Starting point is 00:25:19 I remember a very specific moment, we had a very small following and then our sketches were relatively, I don't know, they weren't incredibly broad by any means or anything like that. But we did like make an active choice pretty early on to make a topical video that was about Jamie Lynn Spears who had gotten pregnant at the time.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And that video went viral for what it was in whatever year that was, 2008. Yeah. And got a couple million views. And then like that sort of umbrella effect of like bringing those, a few of those viewers to our other videos. And then eventually, yeah, some videos take off, some don't.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yeah, there is no math to it really, but you do sort of eventually, you know, learn a little bit of like, okay, this seems to be plain more for the internet audience, or this does not, yeah. And that, and so, and you do like think like, oh, a Jamie Lynn Spears video is gonna get us. Like that's a very-
Starting point is 00:26:30 At the moment- You are thinking of like- That was one of the few times I think we ever were like, oh, we could maybe capitalize this and do a bit that could like score us an audience or like a viral video. And it was picked up by Perez Hilton. And I think that really helped it, but I'm not even in the video.
Starting point is 00:26:51 It was like Christmas time and I went home, but I vaguely pitched on it, but it did help. I mean, who's to say if we had never made that video, if I don't know, maybe our other videos still would have found their way. Caught traction. Yeah. But yeah, Yeah, but... Yeah, no, I mean, and there's nothing wrong, you know...
Starting point is 00:27:08 There's nothing wrong with what you do, Kyle. No, but I mean, but it is, you know, to do... Because I know when we started on the Conan show, there was this attitude of like, ugh, topical humor. Right, right, yeah. You know, yuck, we want to do our absurd little brain plays. Yeah, of course. And then you start and you're like, oh, no, no.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Yeah, it's doing you a favor. Totally. There's things people care about, and if you make jokes about them, it's not cheap. It's sort of polite. You're sort of being polite to what the public attention is on. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like in a more, when I worked at S&L, I feel like that was one of the big things I learned was like, I think this is speaking to what you're saying, like, yeah, there is for a lot
Starting point is 00:27:58 of us a desire to be subversive or to be weird or to like kind of get our own persona, voice, whatever our thing is in there or twisting somehow. Or not exist in trashy pop culture shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like if you can embed yourself or your weirdness or your alternative nature within a broader thing that is like a little more bite sizeable for folks or whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Like, yeah, like you said, it can only be rewarding. And like that really is the art is like, can you make it interesting to you as like a comedian, as an artist or whatever, but also make it appealing to a lot of people. I think that's always the most interesting thing, because if you're only caring about your own, like what entertains you, why are you bothering showing it to anybody? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Now, all you guys, the four of you, all ended up getting on SNL. Yeah. Did you all, like, was it as a group or? Three of us came on the first year and then that was myself, Beck, and Dave as a video director and then Nick came in the second year as a writer. Okay. Yeah, yeah. And, I mean, that must've been pretty nice to go into.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Oh, absolutely. Well, yeah. Because you're not, I mean, SNL kind of famously can be a scary or at least a clickish kind of place. Like different sort of groups of people off in different corners. And you know, I mean, lots of performers
Starting point is 00:29:45 have talked about like how you get through to make some writers wanna write for you. And there's a, that's its own little process, you know, within the process. And, but at least you guys had each other, you know? Absolutely, no, totally. I that's, and I say that quite a bit. It is, it would be so much more frightening
Starting point is 00:30:03 to go in there alone. Yeah. I had friends, it makes, it's a bit. It would be so much more frightening to go in there alone. Yeah. I had friends, it's a massive. I mean, do you think you would have been okay doing that? If I had been there- Gone solo, yeah. That's really tough to say, I don't know. I mean, like mentally, it's challenging.
Starting point is 00:30:21 You know what I mean? Yeah. I feel like maybe I could have found my way somehow, but it would have been a fully different experience. Yeah. Was it a welcoming experience for you? Because again, I was in that building starting in 1993, and they were like sort of,
Starting point is 00:30:42 it was like we went to the same high school and they were a different class. And you would just hear they were like, sort of, it was like we went to the same high school and they were a different class. And you would just hear like different stories and the stories would evolve over time. Like, but when I got there, it seemed to be a pretty like hostile work environment a lot of the time and people not necessarily sharing. It wasn't like, and it was so weird for us
Starting point is 00:31:03 because for us, it was like, we were doing a show five days a week. There was no way of like, I'm not gonna tell you what my idea is. You know, it was like, hey, I got an idea, let's all work on it. And it just seems so unusual that there were people who were like, I'm not gonna let you know what my sketch is until read through,
Starting point is 00:31:22 and then you're gonna find out. And I, you know, and it just seemed like really not productive. But then as time went on and in that building, it definitely changed and it became much more, there happened to be a lot more camaraderie, I think. From my outside. I don't think it was super hostile when I got there. But that being said, you can feel it when maybe
Starting point is 00:31:51 it feels like the group decides to go cold on somebody. You know what I mean? So that was there or something or a piece or whatever. That definitely happened, but generally everybody was cool to me. Yeah. What about the rumors of Satanism? True.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Okay. So I thought, I don't want to talk about it. Great. Because I do not mess with Satanists. That's like one thing that I learned at Stella Adler. Do not mess with Satanists. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:23 And other sense of memory shit. I don't know. Yeah. And other sense memory shit. I don't know. I don't remember all of it. Well, did you, I mean, how was it at home? How were people at home when you got on SNL? Like were your folks like super jazzed? Everybody was super excited. I mean, I feel like I was probably,
Starting point is 00:32:40 I don't wanna say I was the least excited, but for me, as awesome as it was, and it was like, similar to what we were talking about earlier, it was like a full dream, but not even a dream that I thought could come true. Yeah. For me, I immediately felt the pressure of like, oh, I wanna do decently on the show.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Yeah. I think for everybody else, yeah, they're psyched. They're like, oh, give me tickets. You know what I mean? Everybody else, it's- Right. I feel like they get to be along for the ride in their own way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Did you feel like you were started, how long, I guess, how long did it take for you to feel like you were clicking? Like you had a handle on the process and- You know- Or did you ever? I feel like, yeah, towards my last couple years there, I felt like, oh, I know the routine well, and like, I think I have a good vibe with the other folks.
Starting point is 00:33:31 They know what my voice is, what my P's are gonna be like. I get loved during the table read. But I think there was always like, certainly a degree of nervousness, you know what I mean? I think it lessened over time, like certainly a degree of nervousness, you know what I mean? I think it lessened over time and you get used to what the show is
Starting point is 00:33:51 and like the way it works, but there's always a little bit of how is this gonna go? What's gonna happen? Am I gonna fuck this up, et cetera. Yeah. How do you know when it's time to move on? I was there for nine years. Yeah. And...
Starting point is 00:34:09 Which that's a good long time. It is a long time. Yeah. And Beck had left, I think the year prior to me, Dave and Nick had both already been, were both already gone. For me, you know, this, I was writing this movie during my last season there. I'm trying to pinpoint what that thing is
Starting point is 00:34:30 that allows you to be like, oh, that's enough. But I think you just feel it, you know what I mean? You sort of maybe feel the changing of the guard, like new folks coming in and it's like, okay, some of the people I came in with are leaving or like it just feels like a culmination of this experience. And like, you also get to a point maybe where you're like, I've pretty much shown all my moves, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:56 Like I can't do anything too new or radical comparative to what I've already put out there. Yeah, does the grind of it get to you too? Like after nine years of it. Oh, of course. That's another thing. I mean, I also wanted to like, yeah, fully start a family and it didn't feel like
Starting point is 00:35:13 the right place to try to do that. Like that was possible. Yeah, yeah. Cause where, did you get married while you were there? I did. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah, that'll, yeah, that should.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Yeah. I think that would make a difference for sure, yeah. Because yeah, I can't imagine thinking like, yeah, let's have a baby, see you in a week. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:34 But yeah, I felt like it wasn't the move for me. Was it just simply, do you feel like the show was kind of also kind of letting you know, like, yeah, you couldn't, you know, time for you to go or did you feel? No, they were. Because it's different with everybody know like, yeah, you couldn't, you know, time for you to go, or did you feel- No, they were- Cause it's different with everybody. Yes, oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I feel like I actually, I had a wonderful experience. I'm sorry, my phone is buzzing. That's all right. And I'm getting nervous that, okay. It's a San Diego call. Is it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:01 It's not the Padres, is it? Could be Fernando Tatis Jr. He's not the Padres, is it? Could be Fernando Tatis Jr. He's great. Just not that Machado. Yeah, the Audra fans hate Manny Machado. They really do hate Manny Machado. Yeah. Yeah, what was I saying?
Starting point is 00:36:21 About the show like- Everybody was incredibly gracious to me always. And they gave me the impression I could have stayed there. So for me, it was a good experience. Yeah. Yeah. But were you nervous? Like, is there like the nervousness of like, oh, fuck me. I'm gonna, they're gonna get rid of me.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Or no, just that you're leaving a steady check. Absolutely. I mean, like, yeah, fortunately by the end, we were paid decently. So I was like, okay, well, I have a little something that can- A cushion. Yeah, yeah, last for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:36:54 But yeah, I mean, like, yeah, still, probably in the last week, I was like, fuck, that was like the last steady gig I had. And it was a good gig and it is, yeah. I know I know that steady gig then not a steady gig. Right. And it's like oh fuck yeah remember steady gig? I know. And I used to bitch about it.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I know exactly. What an asshole I was. I was like yeah all of a sudden it's like that's pretty cool. I just had to work from September to May. I had a full summer off. I taught at an extremely difficult school, but I still had summers off. I got no sleep.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I couldn't go to friends' weddings. Sunday was the only day I really could do anything. Yeah. I mean, was there a difficult, was there like a withdrawal process when you got out? Like, did you feel like when the next season started up, was there any kind of envy or FOMO happening? I think I fully blocked, I didn't even like kind of-
Starting point is 00:37:56 You didn't watch? Yeah, I didn't watch that season after I left. And I, yeah, it felt a little traumatic. Yeah. But now I started watching last season and I love it. I love watching it. Yeah. In fact, in retrospect, watching it now,
Starting point is 00:38:15 I feel like, oh man, the difficult feeling that I have to deal with is like, they make it look so easy. Yeah. You know, and it feels like, oh man, I could have just messed around up there. You know what I mean? You mean people that are just more sort of like effortless and silly.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Or just like the way the, yeah, I feel like it just, it appears on screen. You don't, you can't necessarily read what's going on in everybody's brains. Yeah. Also, like the other big thought I had coming out of it is that it feels so, it does feel so important when you're there. And it feels like this week is make or break.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Like I gotta get a piece on. I didn't get something on last week. I can't get, this thing can't get cut, whatever. And then, you know, now that I watch the show and you have a broader perspective and you see the world around you in a different way, it's like, oh, it doesn't matter that much. There are so many people who are not watching this TV show
Starting point is 00:39:17 and it's, so that part of it sort of fools you, I think. Yeah. What was your main goal when you left? First of all, did you immediately come back to California? Pretty much, yeah. Well, yeah, so we had started writing, Y2K was already written, and we were actually in the process of getting it made
Starting point is 00:39:36 towards the end of my last season. How did COVID enter? I don't remember what your last season. Were you there for the COVID shows? I don't remember what your last season, were you there for the COVID shows? I was, so my last season was 2021 to 2022. Oh, okay, yeah. And that was, I think the season, we had a season prior, which was 2020 to 2021.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And that was sort of like the pure, the real COVID. Where you're sending stuff in from home, yeah. Well, that was actually the end of the, that was summer, spring 2020. Oh, okay. And then there was a year, fall 2020 to summer 2021, where it was, that was like deep, like testing every day. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:15 Like an intense- Yeah, yeah. Experience, we were actually in the building for that, but it was still like a kind of surreal experience where like they only had so many audience members. And we couldn't have, you know, there weren't after parties and you had like your own solo dressing room, nobody shared dressing rooms or offices. So I stayed one more year after that
Starting point is 00:40:35 to kind of get the more of a normalized experience. Did you have enough sort of like enough interest in the movie and you know, somebody- Yeah, but I think we kind of, I believe we got the green light, like essentially during the, yeah, the second half of my last season. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:40:53 So like I knew that that was, it seemed like that was definitely gonna happen. Yeah. And I had other things that I was working on and I've always been pretty good about generating my own work and obviously you can't count on the fact that it'll get made. Yeah. But I felt decently optimistic. Yeah. And do you, I mean, are you somebody
Starting point is 00:41:17 that auditions for things much? Do you put yourself out there or you kind of still, do you sort of reserve your time for the things that you're creating yourself? More the latter. Yeah. I feel like if there's a cool project to audition for, I would, but I do like, now it's like, I like any free time I have to either write or conceive stuff that I want to work on in the future,
Starting point is 00:41:42 or I have a family now, I have a daughter. And so that's enough for me, do you know or I have a family now, I have a daughter. And so that's enough for me, do you know what I mean? But I'm not over auditioning, I'm definitely not over getting offers for anything if anybody's listening who wants to give me a... The tests show that no one with any clout listens to this show.
Starting point is 00:41:59 What are the tests? As Sean goes out and just asks people, like, do you listen to the three questions of Andy Richter? Just high powered executives. So far it's been just no's. Bob Iger? Yeah, yeah. He stands outside of Fox Studios with a sign. Do you listen to three questions?
Starting point is 00:42:20 No. No. How was your segue into fatherhood? I mean, cause that's a big step. It was a really, I mean that coming off the show, it was extreme because within a year, within that year following me leaving the show, my wife was carrying a baby and we were going into production in the movie.
Starting point is 00:42:46 And then my mom passed as we were like doing post-production on the movie. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know that. Thank you. Yeah. You really gotta know this shit, man. You should have a flyer. Just like respectful. You should have a flyer you hand out. Nobody told me. You didn't see my Instagram posts?
Starting point is 00:43:02 No, no. But it was a lot of intense sort of heavy, milestoney type moments. Yeah, and so your wife was pregnant when your mom passed? No, no, no. So we wrapped Y2K, I think, in the spring of 2023, I think early May, and then our daughter was born early June and my mother was in town. And so she got to hang out with my daughter
Starting point is 00:43:37 for like two weeks. Yeah, yeah. That's great, yeah. Was there so much going on that you didn't get like a lot of time to sort of like deal with the I'm responsible for another life now kind of thing or No, I feel like that is always that sort of thing always hangs over my head. Absolutely. Yeah Yeah, I certainly have to thank my wife for all the hard work. She Has done especially during those times where I was deep
Starting point is 00:44:05 in the edit bay. Yeah. Or, you know, but yeah, that's always something I'm thoughtful about. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have kids? I have three, yeah. What are their ages?
Starting point is 00:44:16 23, 18, and four and a half. Really? Yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah. I got divorced and remarried and have a new little one. Dude, that's amazing, man. It's fun. How do the older kids get along with the younger kid and vice versa?
Starting point is 00:44:32 Really, my son is 23, USC graduate in art, is living with us now. And really, both of my older kids were not big fans of little kids. And I mean, and I adopted, she's my stepdaughter and I adopted her. She was about a year old when my wife and I started dating. And then just very shortly after we got married,
Starting point is 00:44:57 I adopted her and that was always part of my plan. You know? That's so awesome. I really don't like my wife. I just wanted a small child in my life again. But boy, like my son, when he moved in, like said things like, and he was sort of cagey, but he's like, I hope you don't think like,
Starting point is 00:45:16 like I'm just going to be a babysitter all the time. And I was like, hey, asshole. First of all, you got to prove your, like I'm not going to just be like, hey, asshole, first of all, you got to prove your, like, I'm not gonna just be like, hey, you know. Trust you, dog. Here's Stoney, take care of the baby, you know. I was like, no, I'm not, no, and that's not gonna happen, but yeah, but I'm also, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:35 I'm not just gonna give you a four-year-old and go like, take care of her. Yeah. And my daughter, I think my daughter was a little bit like, oh, oh, another little girl, huh? A cute little girl in your life, huh? But now it's much better. My son, Cornelia is my daughter and she just loves her big brother and he loves her and
Starting point is 00:46:00 he takes care of her and it's really nice. It's just really, really nice. And I mean, I love having a little kid around, you know? It's really... It's like all other things seem so stupid. Like all the things that... Especially Los Angeles show business, whatever, and all these different concerns. When you get a little kid around, it's just like, no, no, this is the important part. It's so lovely, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:32 And it is nice when you get to, because my son was born and for the longest time, his sister was five years younger, but there was a number of years where he was going to be an only child, just because we were like, nah, that's enough. younger, but there was a number of years where he was going to be an only child, you know, just cause we were like, nah, that's enough. And then we had another one and it is nice. Yeah. To have them, you know. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Have them have siblings, you know, it is a lot, it's, but I mean, there's no right thing. Sure, sure, sure. You know, but I just think you really should, I think four would be good for you, four children. You heard it here first. Or maybe nine, maybe a baseball team. Oh. Yeah, yeah. And maybe 10, just so you get a bullpen.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Well, what's next for you? I mean, the movie's done. Oh, first of all, how did the concept, because it is a funny concept, the movie Y2K, is basically all of the paranoia, if people remember the paranoia of Y2K, that the entire world's computer infrastructure was gonna come crashing.
Starting point is 00:47:39 This is an extreme version of that, where it actually turns evil. Where it does, yeah, a version of it does happen. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And did, I mean, how did, did you have that idea a long time ago? How did that idea come about? I think I've always been, since Y2K,
Starting point is 00:47:58 since that happened or didn't happen, I think I've always been into it just as a weird thing that happened in our lives. Were you worried about it at the time? Like, did you feel like... I remember my mom getting, like going to the grocery store and getting like jugs of water
Starting point is 00:48:18 and some granola bars and stuff like that. I don't know how nervous I actually was, but yeah, I was probably a little like. There was enough stuff about it that I did feel like a tension. I figured it was gonna be like, yeah, you can't buy groceries for a while or something like that.
Starting point is 00:48:36 I didn't think airplanes would explode or anything like that. Yeah. But yeah, it was just something I was sort of in the back of my head a little obsessed with. I thought it was like a weird moment. And then I think New Year's Eve, New Year's Day 2019, we had a party and I woke up hung over and just started thinking like oh that'd be an interesting movie would be like some high schoolers
Starting point is 00:49:11 Go to big party and y2k actually happens. Yeah. Yeah Was it hard like do you have a hard time accessing high schooler? Life like writing in the in the voice and in the world of high schoolers? No. No? No, I feel like I think that in a lot of ways I stopped maturing and growing after like, at like 23 years old or something like that. I'm a very like, nostalgic person and like I just think about that life and culture quite a bit. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's pretty embedded in me.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Did you have a happy high school years? I mean, yeah, I mean, seems you were popular, so, you know. Why do you think that? Cause you were named most likely to become a movie star. That was eighth grade, high school was a different. All right, so you fucked up in between that, you know? No, I did have a good high school. I would say ninth grade was a little tough,
Starting point is 00:50:11 but 10th, 11th, 12th, sophomore, junior, senior. Yeah, I was relatively well-liked. I have no major complaints. How was your high school experience? It was okay. I don't know whether it's a coping mechanism or anything, major complaints. How was your high school experience? It was okay. Yeah. I don't know whether it's a coping mechanism or anything, but I don't have distinct, when you go, well, ninth grade was tough,
Starting point is 00:50:33 but 10th, 11th, and 12th grade, I'm like, I don't know. Oh yeah. One from the other, I don't know. Yeah. No, for me, I'm referencing probably days and moments from seventh grade. Really? Wow.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Carpool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just don't have that kind of memory. I don't know. It's, you know. Yeah, I don't, I struggle with like what happened, you know, in the last. A week ago. Exactly. But like if it's, you know, March 2nd, 1996, I'm cool. Yeah, yeah. And you say the movie's been getting good attention. People love it. Excellent. Yeah, it's a really fun flick. I mean, I don't ever, I rarely do I like try to sell the movie,
Starting point is 00:51:17 but yeah, we played it South by, we just showed it at the SCAD Savannah Film Festival. Next week we're going, we're doing a bunch of screenings, but it's really been especially exciting seeing young people see the movie who didn't experience Y2K know it maybe vaguely as a concept because it's sort of come back and in terms of fashion, like Y2K fashion is a thing. And so that's sort of what the, I think to a lot of younger people,
Starting point is 00:51:49 that's what the phrase is associated with, just like late nineties, early two thousands, like this is whatever the baggy pants. Exactly. So like the actual, what it is to us, the computer bug of it all, they might not know about, but the movie is plain and for them and seemingly. And like, I think we, in a best case scenario,
Starting point is 00:52:13 you know, we referenced a lot, dazed and confused in that, one, like we tried to, you know, the first part of the movie hit that coming of age, like very grounded, real, like this is what high school was really like, that feeling. But also interested, that movie that came out in 93, I think, believe, I believe, and that was the 70s, that was 20-ish years prior.
Starting point is 00:52:37 This is, I guess now 24 years ago, but like there is a hope that like as a young person you can watch and be like oh this This is what life was like, you know what I mean? I feel like I'm not articulating this in a great way, but um, but it It's been very nice to watch it through through that group of Persons who weren't even around. Yeah, well, what's next? What do you I mean? Do you have more movies lined up? are you just waiting to see how this one goes? Yeah, no, I'm constantly writing. Yeah, I have some things that are in development,
Starting point is 00:53:14 but no, nothing concrete. And yeah, I really, really do want this movie to do well. Do you have a set habit, like schedule for writing? Like, do you like have a thing where every day I'm going to do this or is it just something that comes naturally to you? It comes fairly naturally. And again, I do like collaborate on almost everything I do. So like a lot of it is also based on when whoever I'm working with, whenever we both have time to work. But I'm pretty good about like inspiration hitting me and just taking notes and working on it when it makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:55 But I don't do a lot of the like, I wake up, you know, start typing at 9 a.m. or anything like that. Yeah. Well, that's good. That's, I mean, it's very admirable. Yeah. Thank you. I feel fortunate. I mean, it's very admirable. Yeah, thank you. I feel fortunate. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I feel fortunate. Well, good luck with all of that, I guess. Thanks, man. Yeah. Big holiday plans? Christmas? We'll see. My go down to San Diego. Those plans haven't been revealed to my family, so I don't know that I can reveal them here.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Right, exactly. They won't listen. How old's your daughter? She's almost one and a half. Oh, okay. So that's, she's starting to, where Christmas stuff is getting to be fun, you know? Yeah, I mean, we haven't gotten there yet.
Starting point is 00:54:41 No, I know, but you're gonna, you know. When they're little tiny babies, what did they know about the birth of Christ? You know, celebrating the most magical time of the year. I know, it's fucked up, like pay attention. Yeah, come on. It's about a baby, you're a baby. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:55:01 Right. Well, Kyle, the final of the three questions, what have you learned? So what have you learned? Not about this, not during, not here. There's nothing to be learned from this hour. Like what have you learned in life? I'm curious, how often are your guests
Starting point is 00:55:22 like well-prepared for this? And this question. Like 30% of the time. Okay. Like they come in like- Honestly, some people come in, they don't even know what the fucking three questions thing is.
Starting point is 00:55:33 And then other people come in and they think it's a very strict thing. And to me, it's like, it's just sort of a framework. It's, you know, I don't take it particularly seriously Other than it just is kind of like the context, it's like the vessel that the conversation sort of fits in. But yeah, some people, they don't even know what to... And then other people are like completely flummoxed by it. But I mean, honestly, it can be... Like know, like Padgett Brewster's was, was that you can sharpen scissors by cutting aluminum foil.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Like that was what she's learned. And that's, you know, that's as valid as, that's as valid as find your tribe, you know, in terms of usefulness. And then it just ended there. And that was it. And then she ran out of here. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Yeah, it was great. Now, what have I learned over the course of my life? Yeah, I have several things. Well, one, I mean, first thing that comes to mind, when we're talking about our work and in my work at SNL or work generally, I don't know how you feel, but like I am a nervous person and like,
Starting point is 00:56:46 I do at times suffer from negative thoughts and I beat myself up or I suffer from anxiety or I can get sad. And at times, those anxious thoughts of like, I don't think this is gonna go well, or I just got rear-ended, now I'm gonna have to deal with this while I have, like in my brain, while I have to perform comedy
Starting point is 00:57:12 or something like that. That's something that has affected me for a long time. And one thing that I've learned that's been really helpful, and obviously there are degrees of people's issues of depression or anxiety or whatever it may be but like for me I'm always gonna deal with that I'm always gonna have negative thoughts or anxious thoughts but coming to the realization that they won't end and that like oh here's a here's a this thing is bothering me just realizing that it's there in
Starting point is 00:57:47 my brain and then going about my day, whether it be doing the laundry or writing a script, has probably been the most rewarding thing. Just not giving it power, just acknowledging it and going on with your life. Does that compute for you? Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. You know, this particular model of human has this particular pattern of behavior. Yeah. And it's that's going to be there. And what you do with it is the important thing. You know, if you can. I mean, do you do you go about? Do you are there? Have you taken steps to like maybe lessen it a little bit? I mean, do you have about, are there, have you taken steps to like maybe lessen it a little bit?
Starting point is 00:58:27 I mean, do you have techniques that you've learned or that you've adopted? I've certain, I've been, I've gone through therapy. But yeah, I think like, SNL is a good example where like, I did nine years of it and I was still, I still got like nervous. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:58:46 It did lessen over time, but like for me, there was something, there's been something powerful in like the realization that like, oh, I am nervous right now and that's okay. You know what I mean? That's the big thing is that like, I would find myself getting frustrated by the fact that I'm dealing with nerves because like,
Starting point is 00:59:09 oh, I've done this so long, why is this still affecting me? And that only makes it worse. Yeah, yeah. So it's mostly just like, again, sort of just acknowledging that like, okay, I'm nervous right now. I'm gonna go into the podcast recording
Starting point is 00:59:25 or whatever it is and do my thing. Yeah. Acceptance, self-acceptance, yeah. Yeah, no, one of my big ones that I figured out, and it took me years and years to figure it out, was talk nice to myself. Like, if I talk mean to myself, like you fucking asshole, you did it again. You're not,
Starting point is 00:59:46 you know, you're not, I always thought like, well, how do I react to people that talk shitty to me? I'm like, fuck you. I'm not going to do anything for you. Whereas the people that talk nice to me and say things like, I know why you're feeling this way. And you know, and I love you, me, and we're going to do this. And you know, you can do this. And and we're gonna do this, and you know you can do this. And even though you're feeling this, it's not gonna define you, it's not gonna define whatever you're going through.
Starting point is 01:00:13 And you can do it. That person, I'm like, all right, I wanna do something for you. I wanna do something for the person that talks nice to me. Yeah, and I also like using the like, you've gotten through versions of this before. You've gotten through more difficult versions of this before maybe, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:32 Or you even have like a full lateral situation that you've gotten through. So like you can do it. Yeah. And the anxiety is coincidental. It's like it's not, it only can take away from it. Although sometimes the anxiety, especially like performance things, it can be helpful.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Can keep you on your toes a little bit. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, yeah, and can give a little edge to it. And you can lean into it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, but it's largely coincidental. It's like, when I'm in this situation,
Starting point is 01:01:00 I, you know, it's like, I sweat or, you know, my palms get clammy. To me, like, I think one of the scary components of it is that like, oh, it might just happen in like a, what would seemingly be a non-nervous situation, you know, non-nervracking situation. That's, and that's the sort of thing that I feel like there have been moments in my life where I probably
Starting point is 01:01:21 would have reacted to like, why am I at this commercial audition, like incredibly nervous? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But like, it is like just being okay with, okay, well that's it. So I'm gonna do my best, we'll see what happens. Yeah, yeah. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I do just to, if I may say one more thing I've learned. Of course you may. And I feel like this will sound incredibly generic probably, but I guess, and I'm sure you or someone on this show has said a version of this, but like that there is no end, that we are always learning, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:01:58 There's no end point. And I feel like that, and like I'm always learning trying to become a better person and like learning about the world around me. And I feel like that's also parallel. I feel like there's like a work equivalent in that I feel like a lot of us within this industry are assume that that next thing will be the thing.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Like that thing's not the thing. You know what I mean? And like, you're just gonna keep on chasing. Like the thing is, I guess it's just that there is, there is no end, you're gonna continue forever. You know what I mean? You're always gonna work hard. You're always gonna, there's no real moment of like,
Starting point is 01:02:40 I'm good now. Yeah. No, I have witnessed people in the intro business who their goal was a thing, was like a specific role. Right. Or to be in this, you know, like reach this level of something and they reach it. And now what?
Starting point is 01:03:03 Yeah. You know, and from witnessing that a few times in my life, you know, when I was younger, I realized like, oh no, you make the goal a process. You know, your goal is like, get better. Your goal is, you know, do different, lots of different things, you know? Spread yourself out.
Starting point is 01:03:24 And I just think that that's, you're sort of like guaranteeing success. Yeah, I think you nailed it. A little bit more easily. More eloquently than me in that the goal, it is yeah, get better in all aspects of life. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Well, Kyle, I don't know if you know this,
Starting point is 01:03:45 but your movie, your horror comedy, Y2K, is gonna be out December 6th, and I hope it blows up. Oh, that's very sweet. I hope it's huge. And I'm gonna see it. I wanna make my four and a half year old see it. I hope it's appropriate. I don't think so, but I'm down.
Starting point is 01:04:05 I mean, you, I'm not, you are the parent. Yeah, yeah. How aware is she? Like, I don't know how she takes in information at this point. Yeah, yeah. Well, she, I use most of the viewing as a punishment. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Like, I'll wait until she does something bad and then I'll say, we're gonna go see this horror comedy. Okay. Yeah. Do your thing. You have your own way of doing things and I support that. So you wet the bed, you're going to see Y2K.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Pretty healthy stuff. You know, that's a ticket for me, so I don't, I'm not complying. Well, Kyle, thank you for coming. Yeah, thank you for having me. And thank all of you for listening and go see Y2K. And I'll be back next week. The Three Questions with Andy Richter is a Team Coco production. It is produced by Sean Doherty and engineered by Rich Garcia. Additional engineering support by Eduardo Perez and Joanna Samuel.
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