The Three Questions with Andy Richter - Lynda Carter

Episode Date: December 19, 2023

“Wonder Woman” herself, Lynda Carter, joins Andy Richter to discuss playing the iconic superhero, touring the country at seventeen, parachuting in a pants suit, her new single, “Rise Up,” and much more.

Hey everybody, welcome back to The Three Questions. I am your host, Andy Richter, and today I'm talking to Wonder Woman. No, not that Wonder Woman, the original real Wonder Woman, Linda Carter. She's an actress, singer, and Miss World pageant title holder. I think I've talked to three Miss Worlds. No, actually, she's the first one. Check out her new single, Rise Up, on streaming platforms now. Linda joined me via Zoom from Maryland. Here is my conversation with the Linda Carter. Hello, Linda Carter. How are you? I'm fine. Thank you. It's great to see you, Andy. Good to see you. And you are speaking to me from your home, which is in Maryland. Is that correct?

Yes, in Potomac, Maryland, which really is just a mile outside of D.C. Yeah. You're married. You're late husband, and you have lived there. Has it been since 1984? Boy, that's right on. Yeah. You're married, you're, you're late husband and you have lived there. Is it been since 84? Boy, that's right on. Yeah. Well, I appreciate it. That's right on. 83, 84. Yeah. I've lived in this house. We built this house together and, uh. Well, you must like it. I love it here. Yeah. I really love it here. Now it's completely my, you know, it's my home. I've lived here longer than I've lived anyplace else. Yeah. So it really is where I had my family, and they grew up here,

and they still have places here, and, you know, they're grown, and they've got their own lives and uh you try to fit yourself into wherever your children are i guess yeah yeah yeah um you know was that was it a hard adjustment because you're from arizona originally correct and yeah i am i left at seven i left it when i was 17 arizona pretty much but to go go to, to California, I mean, you were, I went to California. You're, you're, you weren't used to East coast winters, I would think. No, no, I wasn't. But you know, I was traveling on the road. I was on the road since I was 17, traveling back and forth. And I'll tell you this, I certainly wasn't ready for a Chicago winter when I, when I was, when I first went to Chicago,

I thought I, I thought I, you know, I brought a winter coat and a winter coat in the West and a winter coat in Chicago is a very different thing. I had no idea what a lake effect was. Yeah. Yeah. No, Chicago is, I'm from there. So it's pretty, it's pretty brutal and especially like you say the lake on the lake you know the the the wind gets about a you know coming across the lake

it gets about a full state heads head head steam you know head of steam built up before it hits you it is crazy I just I I mean it was like wearing nothing when you're walking. It just goes right through you. No, I wasn't prepared at all for that. I wasn't, but as I grew up, I was, you know, in skiing and all that you, you, you figure it out. And I really liked the changes of season growing, growing in arizona and then growing up and then working for a long time in in um in la and being in la i was i loved the changes of season and right now i'm looking at at the leaves outside and they're they're changing color went for a walk and just watching it's sort of like watching the passage of time yeah and that you feel the passage of time

and when it when you get an indian summer when it's very warm outside and and you know the next day is going to be in the in the 40s uh and then one day you just have a beautiful you know you have a beautiful day yeah and uh uh and you appreciate it so much right instead of being in la where you where you if it rains they go oh yeah no i know i can't play tennis yeah again yeah yeah or golf yeah no people they people in la i think they get a deserved reputation as weather wimps. But it's hot. Weather wimps? When I came out here.

Oh, no, it's raining. I know. In the 15th year of a drought. Oh, no. Yeah. Well, and the thing, too, you know, the ones that kill when it, when it's 60 degrees and you see people in down jackets, you know, it's like, no 60, 60 degrees is still shorts weather in, in Chicago. You know, that's, that's still very pleasant. But now you, like I said, you grew up in Phoenix, Arizona.

So were you kind of like, like like did you have kind of was your your upbringing kind of more suburban or was it kind of that a western kind of feel yeah western definitely western i grew up in arizona yeah you know it was i wouldn't i i mean i i as As a kid, my dad would drive me out to the horse ranch, which is now Papago. And it's all built up now, but it was far out then. And I used to muck stalls just so that I could ride the horses. And I was a mucker. Uh-huh. I was mucking the stalls.

Yeah. And that could get pretty gnarly in the summer. I bet. But so, yeah, you know, I was a pretty Western girl. What I remember most stunningly and can appreciate now is that – or drive-in movies, okay? So drive-in movies. In the West, drive-in movies were all year round, of course. And you can't do that in the winter in other places. But in the winter, the car would be warm.

So you'd lay down on the car and it'd be warm. But the stars were astonishing because it was so blackout. Yeah. There really wasn't a lot of light. Pollution. Inter light. Pollution. Interference. Yeah. Pollution, yeah.

And it's what I remember the most is either lying on the top of the roof of the car in the summer or the front of the car when we're going to drive in movies, you know, $3 for a car or $1.25 for a whole car full of people with those speakers you put in the car i remember that just lying just seeing all those stars it's hard to even go any place where you can see all that now yeah yeah yeah you have to get out in the country yeah yeah that was great that was a really really great memory of growing up in Arizona. Well, you got involved. I mean, you're one of three kids and you got involved very early on in doing show business and singing and performing. And was that something that, you know, did everybody in your family, did your siblings do that? Did your parents? Were they performers? No, they weren't at all.

My mom always had a great voice, and she was the one that really encouraged me. Like in every household, you do your shows for your family. And they sit there very patiently and watch you do your shows. Yeah. So my sister and I in particular did that. But I started performing in grade school. And I mean, I was performing solos and things on TV when I was five, I think. Yeah.

My mom thought that I, my mother was my great believer. She really thought that I could do, I could do it. Yeah. And she really wanted me to do it. She was my biggest supporter. I always knew I had her support. Yeah. Did she, was she ever, did she ever have your classic stage mom kind of

tiger mom uh qualities no not really she didn't know anything about it uh-huh and uh you know we were struggling a little bit when i was growing up. We were struggling. She was a single. I mean, my father, they got divorced when I was 10. So I figured no one was going to help me really. Yeah. Everyone was kind of in their own thing. And I had to figure it out for myself pretty much. So I joined a band and what I i did my mom was always there encouraging me

but she wasn't in the middle of things yeah um my husband when i went on the road uh at 17 my or was with these bands and things my husband asked my mother once um how could you let her go out on the road now you think of a 17-year-old child. Yeah. And you think you can barely, you barely want to let them, you barely want to let them loose at college. Yeah. You know, you're terrified of the, you know,

because you don't have control over them anymore. Yeah. So my husband asked my mother, how could you let her do that? And she said, have you ever tried to stop Lyndon from doing anything you wanted to do? And he said, well, that's a good point. Yeah. Well, I also think that parents in those days, too, Well, I also think that parents in those days, too, they didn't have the knowledge of like, you know, what the world was like that we do now.

You know, like the 60s hadn't happened. You know, they were, I mean, they were starting to happen, but there hadn't been, you know, rock and roll for people to hear stories about, you know, the full depravity of life on the road, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I was really lucky in that the people that I was on the road with, they had kids with them and they had a family with them and they were married and they had, they took their spouses with them and their kids with them and stuff like that. I didn't, it wasn't, in any way, I was just not that kind of a girl. Right. No, I didn't mean to impugn otherwise, you know. No, I was all about making my way yeah i was really kind of determined and when about three years in i woke up in the i woke up on the road we were going from a nice place that we were performing in.

And I think we were on our way to the Catskills. Yeah. We were on our way to the Catskills. And we had to make stops along the way. So we're at Holiday Inn playing in a lounge somewhere. in playing in a lounge somewhere. And I thought, oh, my God, this is going to be, this can't be my life. I can't do this.

I'm going to be, I'm going to, I was, I don't know, in my early 20s, I said, oh, this is bad. You know, from one town to another, this can't go on. Yeah. It's not sustainable. No, I gave my notice, and they all said, well, what are you going to do? And I said, I don't know, but this isn't it. Yeah, yeah. And I'd saved money, and I moved to California.

Yeah. To, you know, and now I think about how brave it was to just give it up and go home. And, you know, I had one Miss USA. I had been on the road. Were you still touring after you had one Miss USA? Yeah. Okay. Oh, no. Maybe I quit before that.

I think you're right. Yeah. Because I was... You have my... Yeah, I've got it wrong. Well, when... I mean, because I was thinking, when you won Miss USA,

they must have taken, like, that must be a full year of duties, you know? Well, yeah, kind of. Yeah, on and off i recorded and i recorded a a couple of songs for epic records yeah and uh was writing and doing some of that that's and i moved to la yeah yeah when i quit i got the i that's exactly right i quit the road and i went to arizona and i won miss usa and that's exactly right thank you for I that's exactly right. I quit the road and I went to Arizona and I won Miss USA. And that's exactly right.

Thank you for setting me straight. That's all right. That's all right. Was pageant stuff. Had you done pageant stuff throughout your life? You just got up the road and you're like, yeah, here's another, here's another opportunity in front of me. Well, I went into an, I went into a model agency because I, I thought maybe I could get some work in Arizona just to do some local modeling or something.

And she said, well, I got something for you. Why don't you go out for Miss Arizona? And it's part of the Miss World pageant. And so I said, I went home, talked to my mom and my sister and they said sure you should try it and then i won miss arizona and miss phoenix miss arizona and then miss world usa in about three weeks yeah and uh it was weird as weird as you know what i I imagine. I mean, it's so strange to be a person that is on their own, making their own money, on the road, making your own decisions. Then all of a sudden to have a pageant director telling you how you're supposed to,

that you have to have a chaperone and you're wearing a sash and a bathing suit and you're walking going what is this yeah a bathing suit and a bathing suit and high heels you know the standard high heels and a crown and a banner and prancing around excuse me it It was very strange. It felt like meatpacking district or something. I mean, it really did. It's very uncomfortable to be in those pageants. It really is very strange. Yeah. Particularly in the 70s, you have to understand that this is all about, on one side you've got a loud bullhorn about feminism and about burning the bra and about there's a surge of feminine power and all of that right at this time. And then you've got kind of an old-timey pageant yeah uh which was sort of out of step with with what was going on in the country certainly yeah i mean and they become they become a trope they become like a sexist trope, like the notion of a woman in a bathing suit walking around

on a stage and, you know, and then, and then the notion that it's for scholarship. I mean, I just feel like who's ever bought that. Who's ever said like that, this, that this, like you said, this, this meat packing, you know, sort of display, this is not about scholarship, you know, meatpacking, you know, sort of display. This is not about scholarship, you know, although you did use it as James Brown said, she's, she's got to use what she's got, what she's got to get what she wants. And you used it in a transactional way to your bet, you know, for your betterment. I did. I did. I, I think that what I experienced was this at the the same time when I moved to LA, people would see you. Oh, they'd be curious. Oh, it's Miss, yeah, we'll take a meeting with the current Miss World USA. Yeah. But it'd get you into the door, but they wouldn't necessarily be taking you seriously.

Right. And there weren't a lot of parts back in those days. It was a barren wasteland in the 70s. They did not think that women could uh hold a an audience yeah they thought that women would be turned off by pretty women in in television yeah and playing probably assertive powerful roles yeah well they didn't write them yeah yeah yeah there were no assertive powerful roles the only person that had that i can think of that had an assertive powerful role was angie dickinson in police woman and she had to have a sidekick yeah with her yeah as you know to balance it out so so they did not have their view

one of the things that they said to me when i was cast was you better get ready because women are going to hate you. And I said, what? They said, women are going to hate you. And I said, well, I bought Wonder Woman comics and I loved her. And how can you hate her? And after they said that, I was determined that people were going to love her, want to be her, or be her best friend. Yeah.

Well, be like her or be their best friend. And, and then that is because she is not a man. Yeah. She wasn't a superhero. She wasn't a punching and getting even and revenge and all that stuff she she was she was fully a woman and with all of the qualities of a woman yeah and uh the kindness

and the sweetness and the goodness and the and the uh uh intellect and the uh and all of what women are, but she couldn't be taken advantage of. Yeah. She couldn't, she could protect herself and she could protect others. It's kind of a, but she couldn't be taken advantage of. But she couldn't be taken advantage of. And there's that goddess piece. Yeah. There's that piece that we like to think of as our women and as the strength of the women in our lives. the strength of the women, you know, in our lives. You don't want to endow a superhero with all these male attributes

and think that women are going to like it. Yeah. That there's a, you know, but the fact that she can throw a punch and, you know, and stop bad people is great. Yeah, yeah. Can't you tell my love's a crow? Yeah, well, she's a superhero. She has, that's like, you know, that's got to be, that's got to be part of it.

But she's not going, she's not trying to, she's not trying to instigate. She's not kicking down a door and roughing up bad guys to get information. She'll tie them up with her lasso instead. All she needs to do is just lasso a tooth. Oh, my God. Could you imagine in Washington, D.C., how that would work? That would be so great. They would bury that lasso at the center of the earth just to get rid of it in the center of you know well i wanted to say because uh you know i was i was a kid when wonder

woman came out and i and i and i watched it as a kid but i didn't really have a recollection of it very much i mean i remembered and i remembered it being part of a block of, you know, the Hulk and, uh, cause wasn't the Hulk part. And then there was a short lived captain America. There were some superhero stuff that they were trying to throw out there. And, but I started to, because the me TV, you know, the, like the, the oldies channel uh of tv stuff i love it i mean it's very nostalgic for me i love to watch the old tv shows and just see like like one of the things i know they're funny aren't they oh they're just so because there was only three networks so there's so many things where you just feel like just in in comparison, it was such a seller's market that I see so many shows where there's, you know, they obviously just were like, ah, throw a camera up here.

Say the lines. Come on, let's move on. We got to be, you know, we're going to be back in Burbank by six. And I, but one thing that struck me about watching the show with you, aside from things like when you would parachute into some evil, somebody's evil fortress island. And you were wearing a, you were wearing a pantsuit and high heels when you parachuted in, which I just thought was hilarious. I don't remember that. It was, yeah, you and Lyle Wagner, and he was wearing dress shoes too. I think he had jeans or maybe khaki pants, but you both were like, you know, you both looked like you had just come back from lunch in Beverly Hills and decided

to parachute in. But what I was struck by in watching those old episodes is just what a winning presence you were and just how charming you were and how you know and so when i read that line that you know that a producer told you women are going to hate you and you said no they won't because i'm not going to play it that way you knocked it out of the park by that definition because it you just it's it really is something to see you know they kick around the word and show business likability and sometimes you just, it's, it really is something to see, you know, they kick around the word and show business likability. And sometimes you just get sick of hearing it, you know, but it's true. It is really nice to watch someone that you just like, and you really carried what could be a very silly show just with your own kind of charisma and talent and presence. That's so kind.

I appreciate that. Sure. Thank you. I mean, it was really fun. And I imagine, I mean, it was only three seasons, which I feel like, in my estimate, I feel like it would have been at least seven or eight in terms of just my memory of it and the presence of it.

Yeah. Well, it was two networks, and it was about 60 episodes yeah so it was you forgot that they were 24 episodes in a right as opposed to 8 or 13 now or whatever yeah or whatever yeah so we did a lot of shows yeah still When it ended, was it bittersweet? I was surprised when they canceled it. Yeah. Because was it still doing well? Yeah.

Yeah. What do you think? What reason did they give? I think it was expensive. I think it was a mistake. mistake. I think that the guy in charge, from what I heard, he was kind of insecure. And someone says, oh, yeah, that's just a superhero, a bunch of superhero things. It's not real television or something like that. And he felt insecure and he just canceled it. Oh, wow. With Aquaman, and I think he kept the Hulk, but that's what I heard. Yeah.

But I was shocked. And the other thing is that I'll tell you that is you think that you're going to go on to have more series, another series, do another, you know, which I did a couple of pilots and I had another series later down the road, and a lot of television movies and things like that. But it's really hard to get a successful series on the air. No, I know. I just had no clue.

Yeah. I don't think anyone that has a first-time hit series has any idea what a shockingly rare thing that is. Oh, absolutely. rare thing that is. Oh, absolutely. An actor is plucked out and he has a successful film or has a blockbuster film and becomes famous or a blockbuster television show,

a successful television show that runs for a while. It takes a lot of things to work out you have to be right for the part and all those things worked for me to become Wonder Woman I'm with you, I've had plenty of plenty of times up to bat and feel like I gave some good swings and the thing that I ended up feel like, you know, like I gave some good swings, but you know, it's just, there's so,

and the thing, the thing that I ended up coming away with, cause I was, I, you know, I, I had three primetime shows that I was the number one on the call sheet for. And the thing that I came away with that was just absolutely amazing to me. And I felt at that point too, I was well-informed about kind of the way things worked, but just that what a low priority in terms of a show survival, how little it mattered, whether or not it was a good quality, like the fact about whether it's a good show or not, that's like maybe six or seven on the list in terms of like what's important and the things above it are things like well the guy that that bought this show got fired so the new guy is coming along so he's gonna you know like an like an ape kill all the offspring of the previous alpha male uh just because because if this thing that exists from some through somebody else's choosing

is a success that doesn't reflect on this guy that means you're just you're just you know basically the stepfather that's raising this child and yes it's it's just it's really can just you can really feel chewed up and spit out. Yep. After a while of doing it. I agree with you. It is. It feels arbitrary.

Yeah. directors produce or actors in particular but if you uh get on the wrong side or you're acting because you think that you carry a show or anything that you know you got to be really careful about uh how you act how you um you know what you demand what you be it just arbitrarily they could say they don't like something and you're gone. Yeah, yeah. As you said, you may not have anything to do with it. Yeah. So, yeah, it's odd. Yeah.

Well, did, now, because I was thinking this earlier, but I didn't get a chance to ask it. Do you have a preference between music and acting? I was always, I think, disappointed that my music didn't take off. I tried, and I'm still trying. I'm still doing it. didn't take off. I tried and I'm still trying.

I'm still doing it. So, so, and I, I forgot about that for a long while. I mean, I didn't forget about it, but I mean, I forgot about trying to be known for it instead,

just enjoying it. Yeah. Now I just, now I just enjoy it yeah now i just now i just enjoy it and if i can get people into a theater or buying my music or listening to it or trying it just based off of wanting to see what i'm up to or whatever like many actors maybe they're uh they can also be painters or be sculptors or be musicians or writers, novelists. these bouts of, uh, of creativity where it's this, it's this intangible thing where you are picking things out of the air that satisfy you that,

uh, uh, that are moments of moments of clarity about approaching a role or a song or an emotion or a frustration. So that to me is, and having an outlet for it, having enough discipline that you can put it into a part, you can put it into the discovery of all these nooks and crannies and crags and things in your personality and all of the things that you've experienced. If you dig deep enough of your personality, of your experience, even your loneliness or your tragedy or the depths of you and the joys of you and the goodness of you, and you can put them into lyric and song and the secrets of your approach to a part in the secret narrative that you put into a character. Yeah. secret life going yeah that that they have that is not spoken of maybe in the movie or whatever

i gotcha and you kind of brought that into your into your actual day-to-day life where you were you know you were doing one thing but you were so many other things right yeah yeah day-to-day life but also into your work is that if you it's just experience it's like it's always phenomenal when you when you see a young intellectual a young artist a young voice a young any any person that is able to do something at a young age and you just look at how are you able to do that without without the wisdom that ages have yeah yeah yeah that that you work so hard at to get to and they just know. They just spit it right out. And you go oh my god. You know.

Or they have great facility. Or intellect. That they just get things. They get it right away. And we all have. These moments of genius. So yeah. Can't you tell my love's a-growing. Yeah. I'm curious about, are all the different things that you do, all the different sort of creative outlets that you have, is there no preference for anyone or is it a holistic feeling?

Oh yeah, you asked me that question. Yeah. Or is it a, or is it a holistic thing where you know the way you feel about singing wouldn't be the same if you didn't have acting you know what i mean is it is there a holistic idea of it that where you don't pick preferences well it is also the uh opportunity Yeah. So if I'm offered a part, then you go into that part and you're not chasing it down so much. Yeah. And and when I went back on the road again, creating the interest in what you have to say is, you know, well, can I fill the, can I fill the seats? Do they want to see, you know, you say, okay, I'm going to go out and do my album. Well, who's going to come to see you? Yeah. You got to figure that out. Yeah. Of course. You know, and you've got to, you, you have to, you have to be able to, to say, oh,

I didn't know she sang. Okay. Yeah, yeah. And so you need some infrastructure there to remind people and that. But with a movie, you've got so many other people and structure and everything around you when you're on a stage is you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just you and your voice and some great musicians. and structure and everything around you when you're on a stage is you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just you and your voice and some great musicians.

Yeah. So I do love the immediacy of performance on stage. I think I'm less comfortable in the recording studio. I'm more comfortable, the most comfortable on a stage yeah i've been doing that and performing on a stage the longest i think of from the time i was so young yeah it's the most direct delivery of any art it's a blast yeah standing right in front of somebody you don't have those network people you don't have those producers you know You don't have those producers. You don't have a record producer. And you can say and do whatever you want. That's right. That's right.

You can have so much fun. Have so much fun on the stage. very good, um, entertainer. I'm very focused, um, with my banter. And, uh,

um, since I don't have a lot of hit records, I do. I don't have any, uh, well, you got a new one. You got a new one coming out.

So you got a chance here. You know, there's still time. Oh, it's great. I mean, I really love, it's really an,

an anthem, uh, and it's geared toward action, I think, when I wrote it. It's about the deterioration of our democracy. Yeah. It's about what a shitty time we live in and how we need to do something about it. How we need the generations that are behind us to get up, get going, rise up. It's up to them to save this country. You know, it's a crazy, crazy thing that we're going through. Well, the song is called Rise Up.

And I understand it's the first time in a while that you have a new song out. And you wrote the song. And not only is it inspirational, it's like a real kind of kick-ass country song you know it's it sounds yeah yeah it's like very upbeat and and and you know it's a it it it does it does what it's what the title says it does make you kind of you know it's a very upbeat And, uh, that's it. That's the one. Um, well now you, I mean, you're, you've been, you've always been pretty outspoken and pretty, I mean, before it became a, became a dirty word, liberal, you know, you've always kind of been on the liberal. I know.

I see. I'm from the, you know, when I was even being aware of having a political identity or sensibility, it was liberal and conservative. And now liberal is, you know, like liberal, like, you know, okay, granddad. Well, I don't. I don't. Liberal means liberated. Yeah. Well, and also too, it just means- Liberated, baby. It also means, you know, giving and sharing and, you know. Yes, it does. And do you want a liberal serving or do you want a stingy serving?

I want to, hey, be liberal about it. Right. Don't fudge on that. Yeah. Come on, be liberal with your, you know. So it's all a positive thing. Yeah. Hey, I didn't make being liberal being a

dirty word yeah uh and and conservative isn't a dirty word either it's being ridiculous yeah it's being it's being maga that's you know uh and to say I'm ultra MAGA, that means I hate everybody. Right. Make America gag again. Also, it means to like, I live a rich fantasy life. You know, it's like, I don't care what the reality of things are. You know, I decide who wins elections. You know, it just, it's.

Well, when somebody says, I just think this whole thing about, I think they ought to get rid of this whole thing about that, because God comes first, government later. I said, oh, what about the separate? You just don't like the constitution. Yeah, yeah. You know, excuse me, Mr. Speaker, you just don't like the Constitution. Yeah, yeah. You know? Excuse me, Mr. Speaker. You just don't like the Constitution. Yeah. You know? It's like, where do these people come from?

Where you just don't like the Constitution? Yeah. Well, then leave. Has it, since being this outspoken, has it hampered you in ways, do you think? No, no, no. I don't want to be bullied. Yeah. If anything, Wonder Woman is anti-bullying.

Get it together. Yeah. What do you think the main lesson that you've learned throughout your life? Silence, it really is complicity. something whether it is someone that is talking about um you know in a dangerous way like this main shooter but main didn't have they had yellow flag laws not red flag laws so this main shooter uh that killed 18 people people was a firearm specialist, and he was all these other things. Now, I don't know.

I can't be inside the minds of their legislatures, but people were really, really concerned, and no one was able to do anything. Yeah. And until we force through our voices people to make these changes, and it's up to us, we really have to put the pressure on. And they need to lose elections. They need to be stripped of their power and to be held accountable for, and that's by losing their jobs, for their miscalculations.

If we personally miscalculate in one of our jobs or don't show up or don't, you know, you'd be fired on an individual basis. You'd just be fired. Yeah. You don't show up for your job. Or you don't do it. You show up, but you just don't do it. Yeah, yeah. You don't do it. You make a lot don't or you don't do it you show up but you just don't do it yeah yeah yeah you don't do it a lot of noise but don't do it yeah so congress is making a lot of noise that republicans make like they don't do anything they haven't done anything yeah so they should all and anyone i think anyone any one of those people that voted not to secure an election or defended the insurrection should be ineligible to run for office.

Yeah. Well, you know, I agree with you, but it's not going to happen because there are too many of them right now. Yeah, eventually. Eventually, one would hope. eventually eventually one would get out and vote yes it will if you hold them accountable yes and make it hurt yeah that's their ineligibility is losing elections yeah yeah losing elections and i think that um uh being vocal vocal in terms of helping to elect other people, it's the only way that we have it may seem like, oh, what's the point? Well, people were saying for a long time, people were saying, well, my vote doesn't really count. What's the point of voting? vote doesn't really count you know what's the point of voting it doesn't really count well now they're really seeing that okay they only lost by 300 votes

oh so and so only lost by this by that you know so i think people are realizing that their vote counts yeah and uh i just think civil community engagement and really important to stand up for what you believe in and to make your voices heard. And it makes you feel connected. And it doesn't have to be angry. It certainly can be, but it doesn't have to be. Right. Right.

It just has to be, it just has to be determined. Yeah. Determined to do the right thing. Yeah. Yeah. Instead of letting all these loud people use propaganda. Yeah.

I don't know. I'm frustrated. I hear it and I'm with you i know it's very it's a very scary time uh it does seem like i'd love to just say love love love but it is i mean and i i really feel sorry i felt sorry for a lot of these people who said, I didn't know what I was doing. And I, you know, eventually they'll come up and they'll say, you know, these ex-cultists and things. They say, I didn't realize that. What a bad situation. You know, if you're only getting one point of view.

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah yeah i wish i could fix it i can't well i mean you're you're doing your part your new song rise up check it out and uh linda carter i appreciate so much you and and you taking the time uh to grace this podcast with your presence. And you're great. Oh, well, thank you. Thank you very much. You know, I try a little bit, a little bit. You try very, very well.

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