The Three Questions with Andy Richter - Matt Walsh Returns
Episode Date: December 2, 2025Andy’s good friend, Matt Walsh, returns to the show! The comedian and actor (Veep, The Daily Show, The Hangover) joins Andy to discuss their “Dancing with the Stars” experiences, founding Uprigh...t Citizens Brigade with Amy Poehler, and much more. His new comedy film, "The Unexpecteds," is available to rent or buy on video-on-demand right now! Do you want to talk to Andy live on SiriusXM’s Conan O’Brien Radio? Tell us your favorite dinner party story (about anything!) or ask a question - leave a voicemail at 855-266-2604 or fill out our Google Form at BIT.LY/CALLANDYRICHTER. Listen to "The Andy Richter Call-In Show" every Wednesday at 1pm Pacific on SiriusXM's Conan O'Brien Channel. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the three questions. I'm your host, Andy Richter, and today I'm talking to my dear friend Matt Walsh. He's an actor and a comedian. He is a founding member of the Upright Citizens Brigade Troop. You've seen him in TV shows, such as the Daily Show and Veep, as well as films like The Hangover and role models. He's also currently the co-host of the second-in-command podcast with his Veep co-star Tim Simons. His new film, The Unexpecteds, is available to rent or buy right now on Amazon Prime, Fandango at home,
and Google Play.
Here's my conversation with my sweet friend, Matt Walsh.
Andy, just thank you for having me, Sean Guadalupe.
I'm talking, Andy.
I'm talking.
I knew it would be a bad idea.
Is this the show?
You interrupt me?
The show is, it's already started.
It's been going.
All right.
I'll pretend what you said is interesting.
This is actually a RICO trial.
You've been recorded for days.
Oh, my fucking cross state.
Your car is federal.
Adderall skit.
My side hustle.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm bringing in Adderall from Nevada.
Yeah.
Well, hi, Matt.
Thank you for coming in.
Thank you for having me.
No, you're one of the people that it's like it doesn't, it doesn't feel like this should count as a podcast.
I know.
we're very familiar and friendly because we've known each other for a thousand years and we're very
good friends and uh and we always drag each i feel like when i landed in new york every ucb sketch
or every uh improv show with andy would you please come to our show so we're always like pulling
no but i really love that you know when when you guys which you guys means matt best or
ian roberts amy polar and you you guys were the ucb yeah the ucb the upright citizens brigade
which had you guys were the
there were other people that were in Chicago
as it but you were the ones that said let's move to New York
yeah what was the motivation like whose idea was that
what happened where you're like we got to get out of Chicago
I mean I think we realized we had done some showcases in L.A.
We did some showcases in New York
and we wanted to get a TV show
and you're not going to get really discovered as a group out of Chicago
so we decided New York because it has a theater-going audience
like if you do a showcase in L.A.,
It's really hard to get one night filled.
Yeah.
And we wanted to do a run of shows.
And we felt like New York was a theater town.
We could build our reputation that was.
Were you looking at it as just a temporary move?
I think we all agreed like six months because at that point, you know, we'd gotten auditions for sitcoms or like Amy's such a star.
Like Mad TV was probably sniffing around.
And we all said our goal is to be the next kids in the hall.
So let's stick together.
Let's keep our voice intact.
Yeah, because of the four of you, like.
three white guys and then like an incredibly funny woman and how like how valuable they are in
casting terms yeah you know or especially even there I think that there's way more women in
comedy that are really getting noticed than there used to be yep an improv comedy certainly
because it was always there was always like when you and i started doing improv it was almost like
a tokenism of like seven diversity was like one woman on every other team yeah yeah yeah and very
few like diverse, you know, people of color, not a lot of that. Yeah, yeah. Horatio was around.
He was sort of, you know, Hispanic. Well, he's Hispanic, but it was generally like guys like
us. Yeah. Yeah. Guys in hockey. It was like a middle class cult. It was a niche art form and it was
obscure and it wasn't like it is now. Yeah. So it was like you went to this place where this guy
Delclose, the legend who had taught Bill Murray and John Belushi and we were learning from the,
him or his disciples sharna yeah but it was very niche it was like sort of underground it wasn't
big yeah but then it exploded yeah yeah yeah and now it's kind of everywhere in a wonderful way like
finland and iceland yeah but i mean like like young people saying like yeah i did improv in high
school which yeah that's bananas to me you know like the fact that somebody's going to go like
let's have an improv class well even when we got to new york in like 96 97 there was starting
to be a college circuit, which blew me away.
Like, in the same way you were saying high school, like, there were like college festivals
and college groups.
Yeah.
And that was not around when I was in college.
Yeah, yeah.
Me neither.
Yeah, so when you guys came there, I was, I was sort of like your main connection.
You were the sixth man.
Yeah, yeah, you were the fifth UCB.
I did a, yeah, I did a lot.
And I still kind of.
You were in our pilot.
You and Sarah, your ex-wife played Hansel and Gretel.
And it was like a bloody murder scene.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, covered in fake blood.
And laterhosen, I will, I should have told you, I will wear laterhosen for free.
By the way, you have to pay me.
Bless you for doing that, because you were working five days a week, and I think we grabbed you on a Saturday, and I think you were covered in blood.
And you forget, like, anytime I did a movie at that age, it's like, I can't believe on a movie set.
And you're like in television, and you're getting bloody and not complaining.
And you're like, I've done this before.
You never said that once.
No, I, I know.
But it's funny to think, like, we're doing Andy a favor.
It's like, no, Andy's a hard.
100% being a real sport.
Yeah.
No, no, I was happy to, because, and what I was going to say is that I still, now when people
say, like, what was your sort of comedy school.
Yeah.
And I almost kind of think of UCB more so than I do even like Improbilempic or Annoyance.
Yeah, or annoyance.
Just because I, I don't know why.
Just because it was like, when I think back to like, my.
improv days. That's where I go. I don't know if it was just, it was the most recent or it was just
seemed like the most impactful, meaningful kind of work. I also think maybe having already been on
television, like it, I appreciated it more and it was more fun. And I think I had more poise,
you know, than. It's kind of where you found your voice or you're just turning the corner.
Yeah, yeah. And we also, we live down the story.
literally three doors down the street and you lived above the you lived in the building above it was
it was very it was very culty oh yeah well we we were buddies through the bradies we spent a summer
in uh westwood and you were like my i felt like i saw you every day we're on the same floor
of an apartment building but i remember being your understudy when you left to go to new york
for the bradies you created a character called ann rann gives me a boner yeah yeah and in a show
Yeah, yeah.
You were, but it was basically you doing monologues.
Yeah.
And I got to do that show for a few times.
And I had to say, like, it was so well written.
Like, the stuff you guys came up with, I was so honored to do that for real.
It felt like real theater.
And I know it was like in a fuck around theater in like Chicago.
Yeah.
But like that piece of all the shows I got to do understudy, I was so like proud that I got to take that role.
Yeah.
It was cool.
Oh, good.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, that was, it was, it was interesting.
And it was hard because it was the annoyance theater what they did for people that don't know is the main thing they did was that they get people together, improvisers, and then you would improvise in rehearsals a play.
Yep.
So then there would be a play that wasn't really written down.
It was just held in everybody's head, like in their collective consciousness.
And this was the first time I had done that.
and it was like lots it was so much work it was like so much more homework than I really
was used to doing because what I loved about improv was that there was no homework well by the
time I got in there there was a script so I yeah I approached it like a real actor
and understudying an existing role but I think you had a brain tumor and it was very nihilistic
like I yeah I think it was I was dying or something yeah and it was very strange it was very
It was an odd show.
And also, yeah, and it was called,
with piano music.
Einrand gives me a boner.
And the guy that directed it, Gary Rudorin.
Yeah, Gary Rudorin was a fan of Ein Rand, which I was sort of like, I didn't know enough
or hadn't really wasn't familiar enough to know that like,
Ein Rand is shit.
It's like, it's like, it's like libertarian.
Yeah, it's all this.
up by your bootstraps.
Yeah, it's all horseshit.
Don't compromise your vision for anyone else.
And then, you know, she died on public assistance.
It's like, you know, and it's just, I don't know.
It was just, this is your apology for promoting her life stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for, yeah, promoting whatever it's called individualism or whatever.
Yeah, I think it is individualism.
Yeah, yeah.
So.
But when you were in, when you were in New York, I mean, you guys got the TV show.
Yeah. And how, I mean, I know what it's like to have a show that's sort of like well respected,
but you're always kind of like, oh, what the fuck is going to happen with this? And did you feel that when?
Well, we had South Park as our lead in the first season. And nobody keeps that, you know, we didn't retain their audience.
Yeah, yeah. So then the second year, Strangers with Candy was launched. Yes.
With South Park as a lead in. And they couldn't keep that thing. And so we got one more season, luckily, because it was still small.
So we got to do three seasons.
But it was never, it was always like every year.
I was like, are we going to get another season?
And we were well respected.
And they wanted to have a sketch show.
But, you know, it was never going to be around a while.
But through Comedy Central, I right as the show ended, I got to do a couple daily show segments because they were aware of me.
And then I got a contract with the daily show, which was like, to me, my biggest break, because they would announce, you know, like, ladies and gentlemen, Matt Walsh.
you had your own name on it.
And that was really fun to do.
And I felt like that, to me, was like a bigger deal in some ways than the sketch.
And how long did you do that?
About a year and a half.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right around 9-11.
And did you, did you, well, coincidence?
I don't think so.
Did you, uh, I have an alibi.
Like, how was, what was the, the split like?
Was it like you were moving to L.A. or something or?
No, I was good at the field pieces, but I was not.
great in the studio. I wasn't a great teleprompter actor and like I came up when like Colbert was there
and Corel was still there and Mo Rocco was my sweet mate. Yeah. And they offered me a contract to
just do field pieces and I wasn't interested in that. I see. So I was like, thank you. And John was great.
Like they were really lovely people and it was a really good training. But I was not interested in like
just doing field pieces. Yeah. And did you find when you came off there? Because I noticed a pattern of people
like Rob Cordry
and there were a few other people that were on that show
and then left and then all of us
and it was like everybody had to have them
you know like there was like this
everybody that left as a correspondent
from the Daily show
seemed to come out to L.A.
I didn't move to L.A. I spent a couple more years
in New York. I parlayed it like everything.
What's the easiest version of my life? And when I got the Daily
show,
I started booking commercials because commercial directors just want to work with cool people.
Yeah, yeah.
So I had a run where I booked, I don't know, honest to God, like 25 commercials in three years,
like really good.
Every man, easy.
You show up.
You do six auditions right on like Broadway and 19.
Yeah.
You were all right there.
Then I would go get high and hit golf balls at the Chelsea Pier.
Like that, that was my ambition.
But it was working.
So I took the lazy.
I didn't get, I could have, I should have, not should have.
I could have gone to L.A.
and, like, worked it more.
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't.
I was never that good at that either.
I loved New York, and it worked really well for me.
And then at some point, I realized, like, oh, commercials will run out.
And so then I fortunately got a show called Dog Bites Man, which was a Comedy Central show.
And it was an NBC pilot.
We made it with them.
And then it got picked up.
So that gave me.
And that came, that was an L.A. thing.
Yeah, that caused me to move to L.A.
Yeah.
In like 0.3, 0.4.
Yeah.
Something like that.
And, and are, I mean, do you like living here?
now? I do. It's
I mean, the cliche is
like traffic. I was trying to get here and I was getting stressed
out about traffic. Yeah, yeah.
Because you can't predict it. But I do, like, L.A.
is like suburbia. I live
like Toluca Lake, Burbank area.
And it's just like, I know where my Ralph's is.
We got a wonderful yard. We got kids.
The schools are good. And that
was my ambition. And it serves that up
in spades. And I like to hike and I like to golf.
So it serves year round
those things. So I do like L.A. Yeah.
You've retained, though, a pretty strong
Chicago identity, though,
you know, podcasts about the bear.
Is that, do you still do that?
Occasionally. We used to do it. We did it for like six years and then we stopped.
A bear down and you and Scott Armstrong, screenwriter, improviser.
We did that for six years and then occasionally we do a pop-up show somewhere.
But we, yeah, I still go to like, I'll travel to a game or I got to know the owner of
the Bears, one of the McCaskies, George. He's a nice guy.
Oh, that's right. Through Veep, wasn't it?
Yeah, through Veep. And I did some NPR.
or like, wait, wait, don't tell me.
Uh-huh.
And I mentioned I was a Bears fan.
But that's, as you know, the best thing about being a celebrity, if I can be a celebrity.
Right.
Is that you get access to people like that.
I love the Bears.
And now occasionally I'll get a free ticket or I can go see training camp.
Yeah.
And that's the best part of it.
Well, I mean, that's, that is a good part.
But the best part is that the cops make things go away.
That's the true.
If they recognize you.
Yes.
Like if they don't watch dancing with the stars.
Well, you got to, you know.
You got to drop it.
It's awkward.
How do you drop it in?
You got to buy a few cups.
It's, you know.
But like, do you keep your dancing shoes in the front seat and go, oh, these?
These?
Oh, these right here?
Because I'm on dancing with the stars.
Is that why I'm being pulled over?
I keep a hondo in each one.
Oh, these shoes are.
I've gone like seven or eight weeks deep and nobody thought I would last.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Can't you tell my loves it grows?
No, I know it is.
true it's like that well you know it's hilarious too that you mentioned it is that like having done going
from august where i was just like the guy that had been on the conan show and is now kind of you know
like we all are all of us like men of our age you know white comedy guys kind of just waiting
to be put back in the game in whatever way we are we're going to be put back in the game and then
I do this dancing show and now
it's stuff like, can we send you some
free ice cream? Would you like a
bicycle? And I've just been like
yes, I would.
If it's free, I'll take some dog food.
Yes, I would like some dog food.
Thank you. Oh my God. I remember
this is so shameful, but like
when Veep was the show for a moment.
Yeah, yeah. The gifting suites were real still.
Yes.
And like, explain what that is to people.
A gifting suite is the Emmy Week
at the Beverly Hills Hill
or some swanky hotel all these vendors like everyone from Chevrolet and Netflix to like up a baby
stroller company to like smearing off vodka they have a booth yeah lots of makeup and shit make up and
make up clear all brands will go and you just like look at their stuff and they'll give you something
free and you just take a picture with it and i think they probably used it to promote it but i remember
like our kids were like grown and they're like would you like a stroller i'm like yeah i'll take a
stroller. Because the minute I left, I gave it to my buddy who needed a stroller.
Right, right. And it was that shameful. It's like, if they offer you a bike, take the bike.
Or it was like, have you gone to, you would meet other friends, you know, in the circuit.
And like, have you gone to this Gifting Suite? No, they're giving away bikes. And like,
your publicist didn't make you aware of it. So you would like, can you call here?
And the minute you get there, is like, do you guys have bikes? Are you got any bikes left?
Yeah. Or like, I brought my mom and brother out one Emmy week and they got like these incredible ocean spray.
had a booth and they got these incredible all-weather boots that they still have like but it's
crazy right right right and this can I'm like can my mom have a pair can my brother have a pair
and they're yeah yeah oh yeah they don't care it's not like it's coming out of anybody's pocket
yeah except for mr ocean spray like we're seeing really owned by unilever slash whoever
yeah yeah yeah Vladimir Putin probably probably um yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Yeah, no, that was, those were the old days.
And now that doesn't, because they started to tax people, I guess, on stuff like that, too.
They did. And they limited. It can't be worth more than a certain.
But, yeah, in the, like the movie people, like at the Oscars were getting like Rolexes at some point or like.
And these are people obviously who don't need anything.
Right.
And of course, the rich get rich.
No, that's all. Yeah, no, that's always what's amazing. Is it like, does Michael Douglas really need a second Rolex?
Well, it's like, it's like, yeah, it's like when the time when I was like,
I could use a bike, but I can't afford a bike.
And then you get to where you can buy a bike whenever you want.
And it's like, want a bike?
Yeah, I guess.
Would you like an electric bike instead?
Yeah.
Okay, sure.
Would you like to upgrade to an electric bike?
Yeah, yeah, I would.
Yeah, no, it's when I, I hosted the technical Emmys on September 9th, 2001.
Ooh.
It was on out here.
Yeah, yeah.
It was like two days before the actual, or, no,
three days before something i don't know but at any rate it was right before 9-11 happened and i hosted them
and it was still in those days and like you know they sent a car to pick me up and then the car
and then when i got in the car they had put stuff in the back and you could see it riding lower
because there was so much shit in the back of the car and it was and like we feasted on it for a year
but it was like it was like a dyson vacuum cleaner never got one toss one
of those in there. And I got, I got like, I can't remember it was like maybe $2,500 gift card to Bergdorf
Goodman. Yeah. And I got it like a beautiful suit made that I wore till it fell apart, you know.
And then just, and then like other lots of. Well, there were always like destiny, like you could get
five days at the Ritz Hilton and Jamaica, but you did have to fly yourself. Yeah. And you did have to
schedule. But I remember one year of the Veep gang went to Aspen because the St. Regis gave you like three
or four days.
Yeah, yeah.
You just had to get your son.
You all went together?
Well, we did.
We're like, go, get your thing.
And then we'll all do.
And so me and four of the castmates and our wives had a wonderful, like, lovely stay.
Yeah, yeah.
And Aspen, which was just crazy.
Yeah.
You know, it's really bonkers to think about.
But yeah, those days are gone.
They are very gone.
Although, like I say, I did, I just apparently, my wife just texted me, we got some frozen
custard delivered, just somebody from the, on instance.
Instagram, they'll be like, hey, want some frozen custard? Why, yes, I would. And, you know, and then, you know, and I probably will. I do feel like, you know, I'll probably say, hey, got this delicious frozen custard and, you know, give him a shout out. Yeah, yeah. No, like, I remember one year I got like, when the kids were little, we got these, I got a year supply of go go sweet squeeze, which is like apple. They're little bags of applesauce. Yeah, yeah. But I felt as rich as King Solomon. Like every week or two, there'd be like,
50 bags of it. And I felt like, honey, everything's going to be great. Yeah, yeah. It's just ridiculous.
They're giving you supplies. I don't have to go to the store because we have applesauce.
A mattress with these and sleep on them. Yeah, it was, yeah, that stuff was really fun. And my sister did
one. She and my wife started a business like powdered matcha tea. I remember. And they set up at one of
the second tier, there's like tiers of Gifting Suite. Yeah. And around any event like the Oscars or Emmys,
there's like a satellite gifting suite where the lower tier celebrities walk around and
she was like it wasn't worth it like she did it and you're kind of looking for notable faces
to take up and you don't really get them yeah yeah especially if you don't know who in it like
I would be so bad at that because I wouldn't like dancing with the stars they you know there was
like a 20th anniversary and they it's like the audience was like packed with stars and I was just like
I don't know.
I don't know.
I didn't know who anybody was, except for Charo.
I know who Charo is.
Yeah.
I know who Wayne Newton is.
They were there.
They dial into probably for their demographic, like social media, reality.
Reality show people.
And I don't have a clue as to who reality show people.
And that's a fascinating career because I met a few reality people through that.
And they populate other shows like Celebrity Island.
They'll spend like Jamie Lynn Spears was just coming off a celebrity island or whatever.
And it's interesting because that is a career.
I love the show Traders, and I don't know who anybody is on it most of the time.
You know, is that Pickers?
No, Traders.
No, Traders.
Oh, Traders.
Yes.
Yeah, the one with Alan Cumming and, you know, there's murderers and, you know, traders and faithfuls.
And that's a great show.
It is.
But they does, there's seasons of that where I'm just like, I don't know who any of these people are.
But those people who pop on those shows can have a career.
I know.
That's what's really interesting about the ecosystem of that.
Right.
And I was going to say, have you ever, you don't have to answer this.
Have you ever like, because you have a large following on social media?
Have brands ever approached you to, you know, say, Andy, would you wear this sweater and send it out to your, you know, because product placement happens a lot in the social media world.
Nothing that big.
And my biggest was on Twitter and nobody ever really, Twitter I don't think was like, it's more of a.
Instagram thing because Twitter so was such a word thing got it whereas Instagram was more
visual and I still like I don't have a ton of followers on Instagram relative to other people
but no I mean there's been it's all been dancing with the stars like right off dancing with
the stars the first one was like some energy drink and I was just like I'm not going to like
I don't I have no idea well first of all I don't drink them and it's like God knows what this I'm going
find out like it's causing like tongue cancer. They're kind of nasty. Yeah. But it was funny as it went on
like, because I, I have terrible knees. I have arthritis of my knees and one of the right knee.
I'm going to probably get replaced this summer. And so as a purely functional thing, I was wearing
like black dual strap knee braces when I started on Dancing with the Stars. And this
company from and it was one of the first things that happened and that you know and then we were
posted on tic-tok and stuff and a company called muller sports medicine in wisconsin uh
dm me and said hey we see you wearing those uh you know those knee braces you're gonna like
ours a lot better i was like yes send them over and they were fucking great they're like way
better and now and then they i was like sent they i have their compression boots you know which
He's like, and Mueller, I'm going to, I'm going to divulge something here because another, Jan, one of the pro dancers, because my legs were killing me.
You know what I mean by compression boots?
Yeah.
They're like those things that you zip up.
Yeah, and they squeeze the blood.
They're supposed to be really good for you.
Jan had those and told me, you can borrow mine.
So he brought them to me, and Emma's trailers next to mine, and she sees him bring them over.
And she goes, we're doing this on camera.
She's like, you're not going to have him give you those.
compression boots without it being on camera.
Smart.
And I was like, okay.
And so it's, you know, we're like, here we are with these compression boots.
Like within a minute.
The context.
Muehler's like, we have those two.
Would you like some?
And I was like, oh, well, maybe I would like some of those.
And they're fucking fantastic.
No, Emma knows that knows the, knows how to use it.
And I mean, and it's not, it doesn't even feel like greedy or like that there's
Averis involved. It's just like, hey, there's a, you know how to get fruit off that tree that we're
sitting under? No, I don't. Get a ladder. Oh, okay. Yeah. I grew up and you did too in a world where
that wasn't a thing. Like, we're post social media, adapt. And so that's why I've always been a little
slow about it. Yeah. But there is nothing wrong with it. Absolutely. Yeah. And it's great wisdom
was to embrace it. Well, and then what started, I was starting to get like, I got a big gift basket.
from Advil
I was just like getting
that's a year supply
the old arthritis
the old man arthritis
swag you get an adult diaper
no no adult diapers
I'm fine with that
yeah yeah yeah did you get like
a geriatric home
like would you like to retire here
no it's not that bad arpa
no I did
I did get one of those
lifts installed up the stairs
yeah yeah
because you got to say yes
for fun yeah
also I drink a lot
so it's like those stairs
Did they give you dentures, even though you don't need them?
No dentures.
I'm trying to think like...
You just say yes to everything, even if you don't need it.
And my wife, too.
My wife is an agent for directors and she's totally into this stuff and she's like already
like thinking up like, you should have a line of eyeglasses because your head's so big
that you can't wear regular eyeglasses and you should do a line of wide shoes.
You know, she's just like she's really into all this stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I know.
Or you pitch Mueller a campaign.
Like you shoot a dumb video, like a test pilot.
No, I'm already.
Okay.
Yeah.
No, Mueller, I love them.
And I mean, they just, they, and, you know, we did a bit.
We did a team dance and they sent a bunch of knee straps so that everybody could have.
Yeah, yeah.
So like my, the whole team could wear my knee straps, which everyone, I was like, when I started
wearing these knee braces, everyone's like, oh, it's hilarious.
It's actually is not funny at all.
all. It's not, it's keeping my knees from exploding. Yeah. That's similar to what like a pro
NBA guy would wear, right? They, they probably wear them. Yeah, they just, because a lot of guys
wear sleeves in the NBA. You keep your, it keeps your knee, uh, basically the knee cap in the right
traction. Alignment. Yeah. And I, and I, and I actually, in my right knee, my right knee,
I hadn't had anything. I've known it's been bad for years and years. And then it just started, it ballooned
when we because we reached a certain point where the workload doubled on the dancing and my and that night
my knee was like because you did you ever get it drained yeah yeah i did i did after it got so bad
but it was like i could barely get up and down the stairs i was like i could bend my left knee
but my right knee i could barely bend because it was so swollen so i went in and they drained
that's what makes you appreciate how gifted these dancers are like it's so hard on the body
All of the people, all of the pros, and I mean, not just me, but like the young fit ones, we're all lined up for the physical therapist. We're all like Aiken. We're all, you know, like Dylan Ephron, who's one of the most fit people I've ever known. And I've known him for a long time. We used to work at Warner Brothers together. He's like waking up in the night and the pain. And I'm like, shit, I thought that was just me, you know, being old, you know, but it's, it's really, it's, it's, it goes being.
beyond almost like exercise into abuse.
Yeah, it is.
The dancers just, they do it and do it.
But, you know, like, but they have their aches and pains too.
They have like, like Emma, you like I asked her at one point.
I was like, do you go to the gym anymore?
She's like, fuck no.
She's like, I'd work my ass.
I just dance, you know.
But there were times when like she had something pulled in her shoulder, you know,
or like, you know, like her heel was bothering you.
So it does, you know, it's like any sort of like big.
athletic thing for people to do.
No, they're like extreme athletes and they're also, one, they have no personal space
boundaries.
They're always in each other's crotches and like upside down and hugging and hanging on each other.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's not flirting.
No.
They're just in it.
No.
They live in a world where that's completely normal.
And they're also so wonderful at improvising because I remember when we had to do the promo
for the season and you kind of have to improvise a move and then turn around or whatever, hit
moment. I just remember seeing like, I forget their names. They're all so talented, but he's
like, what if we did this? And he just picked a girl up and she wasn't even rehearsed. And he's
like throwing around her head and she received it and landed it. Yeah, yeah. She knows what you're
like, how did you know where to land and not freak like their ability to improvise moves? And
especially the women, because they're constantly being like taken in a direction that they're not
predicting.
Can't you tell my loves it grows?
But it's, I think it's, you know, it's like, as comedians, we know, like, when somebody's, especially as improvisers, somebody, somebody starts something and you know, oh, I know where this is going.
Yeah.
I see what this, what bit is building here, and then you're ready to take up your part.
Yeah, when it happens.
And I think that that's just, they have so many little chunks of dance parts.
Yeah.
and choreography in their brains that it just, you know, they could just spit it out.
Or as they would say, Cocoa, always used to say, it'll be muscle memory.
I'm like, how are we going to remember this?
And like, literally just trusting that your body will memorize it.
Yeah, like that's, for me, it's not approaching a script because the script is in your mind
and you have a logical link.
A dance is not mental.
It's literally you're giving over faith that your body will remember it.
And your partner's going, get ready, we're going lift, get ready, we're going ready.
They're whispering the whole time, which I've been.
love. Yeah, or yelling in Emma's case. Yeah. No. Lower. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here comes the lift, Andy. Yeah, yeah. Look at the camera. This is our camera. Look. We had different codes like the frame because I told her like my inspiration for the frame, which is where you keep your arms up. Yeah. And by the way, the people who are sick of dancing with the star stuff, I'm sorry. I brought it up. He brought it up. It's better than Andy's knee. I know you're sick of his knee pain stuff. It's the only interesting thing I've done. Nobody.
the last 10 years.
You never get a response about your knee pain episodes.
But my frame, you know, which is a very specific way to hold your arms and you'll hear
them referring to with showy Otani's batting stance.
Hey.
You know?
So Emma's going showy.
Yeah, she would go like, Otani like that.
And then and then the one.
Because you're drooping.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, like that sort of like fling.
I never nailed that.
That hand.
And you're supposed to like hold your fingers.
There's a finger for that.
There's a finger thing.
And the two things that I, it was one of the old pros told me,
it's either a butterfly that has alighted somewhere or a lotus flower.
Like those are the things that it's supposed to look like.
But because it was usually with a fling, it reminded me of like a, a booger.
No, the way that gorillas fling their feces at the zoo.
Yeah.
Like this underhanded sort of like a, and it's always, and if you've ever seen one really do.
I was at the zoo once.
in San Diego and this gorilla shit in its hand and was 30 yards away from the glass and
went and like a fucking fastball boom right against and just it was the most like simple underhanded
flick of the wrist and then but then I said I I said it's like and this was early on where I didn't
really know like you know how well no no when you when you first meet somebody you don't know
how, like, filthy you can be or, like, how gross you can be.
And I was like, it's kind of like, I said, it's also, it's kind of like, you know,
multiple migs in the silence of the lambs.
And she's like, what?
And I'm like, you know, multiple migs.
You know, the guy, when she goes down to see Hannibal Lecter and she goes like, oh,
and you mean when the guy flings come on her face?
I was like, yeah, yeah, like that.
And she was like, oh, my God.
She goes, it is.
Wow.
So that, so that whenever I had to do that, and she would go, miggs, you know,
Or she would say like, she would say like, you know, like, and then you go into a miggs and then, you know, and then, you know, and then we do a sunshine that were different names for different things.
But yeah, migs that became our code for that sort of like throwing your hand out in a fancy dancer way.
I was just thinking this is not related.
Have you watched all the guerrilla moms tolerating their children that are like on Instagram?
I've seen some of it.
Those are the funniest things.
It's just like a gorilla mom and the kid's like hitting her in the face and she's just sitting there.
And then she puts a bucket over the kid.
I could watch those forever.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm like, God.
Well, that's your new show.
That's what we're competing with.
Matt and the gorillas.
I can't be funny about that.
Yeah, tell me how, tell me what about dancing with the stars for you.
I mean, since we're on the topic, because I knew when you were doing it, I mean, how were you just like cast?
Did they just kind of come up?
Yeah, they came to me like you.
And my agent was like, I'm going to offer this and I don't even want to offer to you because
I don't want you to do it.
Like he, it had that patina of like this tacky.
You're not a reality star.
Like, this is below you.
And I'm like, what is it?
Mine were like, you better fucking do this.
Yeah, I was like nine months away.
And I was instantly like, like you, I have such respect for those athletes.
I'm like, that's actually really interesting.
I wasn't a huge fan of the show.
But I did watch like, so you think you can dance.
And I have such an appreciation for the excellence that these human beings can do with
their body.
So I was interested right out of the way, right out, right out of the game.
So basically that's how it came right, right, yeah.
And did you, were there like lots of prep for you?
Did you?
You can go in, I think they tell you, you don't have to rehearse.
But if you want to go in two or three weeks early, I'm like, yeah.
Like, whatever it was, they tell you if you want to start practicing, you know, two
weeks before officially it starts or whatever, you can do that.
With your pro?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
We didn't have that option.
Well, I think, yeah, for whatever.
reason. I mean, I didn't meet my pro until the reveal, which was so fun. I was so psyched to get
Coco. Because then I started watching the show. Yeah. Because I knew I was going to be in it. And I
talked to a few friends like, Kate Flannery. Yeah. What's it like? She's like, oh, my God,
you'll love it. Kate loved it. She loved it. And she's the best. And so long story short,
as soon as I could go in, I'm like, yes. And I tried, I took some Arthur Murray courses with Morgan.
Yeah, with your wife. And I have a trainer when I, when I do train. And she was a dancer. And she got
excited so she was giving me some stretches and some like little things so i was sort of ramping into
it but it's nothing like the hardcore practices right and then all your class like for me it was
my like lower back or my glute whatever happened it would just be knotted up and i'd always have to
like stretch it yeah yeah so but it was it was wonderful yeah so fun and did you were you you were
eliminated right away right i came out in the first round yeah a lot of controversy yeah because
there was the rider strike and you people were screaming on
about you being a scab when it's just not true it's not true yeah it's i i mean i'm a proud union
member but i am too i pick it every day and i did all you know ken jennings is a friend of mine and
people were online screaming about him still hosting jeopardy and it's like it's a completely different
contract it is and they negotiated it yeah it doesn't have anything to do with the you know
with what you're talking about.
And, well, it's just, it's also, it's the internet.
It's just, you know, it's like, yeah, it was a rabble-rousing internet faction.
You can, you can be in the minority, but if you're, like, loud and annoying enough, that can
become the narrative.
And I think, in truth, the guilds wanted it to rabble because they were going, they were
going into the producers, like the next week when it reached its peak.
So they wanted that.
And that show is a gem for the ABC Disney dynasty.
So they wanted controversy because.
it gave them leverage going into that room.
So there was no, like, support going, no, these guys are not scared.
Like, we reached out, the writers and the actors guilds did not come out in support of us
at all, which, so we were hung out to dry.
Yeah.
And me particularly, because I was the only one who was in the writers guild.
I see.
And so, like, because.
Well, were they saying that also the other people just, you know, the like SAG members
that they were crossing a picket?
So we had all these zooms with like, you know, Amiris Sorvino and Jamie Lynn Spears and
Tyson Beckford because they were like.
like well if you step out we should step out because we're going to look shitty so we had all these like
the week before right it was it was like a and then the show you know dina who runs the show and
these other the other guy they were like of course you know it's not please don't leave please don't
leave it's not you know we're not violating the contract right so it was a big hollabaloo behind the scenes
and then when it broke uh there was actually somebody like picketing my rehearsal because i was in hollet
where i forget where i was so i had to like get in a car with the producers and drive around and then
i had to write a letter to the public explaining everything that was you know not true and then i yeah
yeah i did not return to the show and then the next day they went into the negotiations and three days later
they brokered a deal and then the next day was the show so i was able to like step in for a day of
rehearsal and then do the show but it's because it's reality oh you had to stop rehearsing well i
walk, I had to walk away. It was just too much because I was like, TMZ was there and it was like
fever pitch. Jesus Christ. And so I had to walk away, which made the show look bad or whatever.
Right, right, right. It was a story that now they had to address, which is perfect. Because I like
you, am in the unions. Right, right, right, right. It is perfect for the unions to have leverage.
Right. But long story short, I came back. And because it's a reality show, they didn't want my
storyline around. Right. And so I was middle of the pack performance. And Julianne Huff even told me she's like,
I have no idea why those scores are insane.
Like, you guys were great.
Wow.
Off camp, you know, she was whispered in my hair.
Oh, the scores were bad too?
Well, yeah, that's why I was.
Oh, I thought because the combination of the votes or something.
No, because of the, they also didn't have like a double elimination that year.
Right.
So it was one and done.
Yeah.
And they didn't.
It was mostly score weighted for the first one.
So it was like, whatever.
Pete, you also, too, though, just just, you always say it's to save wear and tear on your legs.
You are carried by orphans everywhere.
And maybe that teams he keyed onto that.
I was giving them a job and I was giving them purpose.
I mean, they made like, I paid them breakfast.
If you work all day, you get breakfast.
Porridge and clean water.
I mean, and then there was a tarp.
I had in my yard.
They could sleep under the tarp.
And fresh hay.
And gifting sweet scraps.
There was a couple go-go squeezes.
macha you can drink and some low-end makeup and a lot of like amulets for your charm bracelet
which you can't eat but if you're clever you can hawk them right exactly yeah yeah sure make a
necklace out of it get even more i would always say what would anne ran do right now figure it out kids
i'm going into my ivory tower were you were you on beep when this was happening too or was
it was beep already over deep was done this was like three four years ago yeah whenever the strike was
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
How long was Veeb?
Seven seasons, but it spanned probably eight or nine years.
Yeah.
There was a gap when Julia got sick.
Right.
And then we switched from Baltimore to L.A.
Because the show moved.
Right.
So that was a little bit of downtime.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And now I imagine that show is pretty great.
Oh, my God.
You know everybody on it, basically.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Julia's the best.
The writers were so brilliant and funny.
The cast was so sweet.
so sweet. And it's like, like you said, like you can do a funny show, but it doesn't mean it's
going to be received in the way. Yeah. So all you can control is like, let's make a good show.
Yeah. But the reception and the sort of momentum that it built was really exceptional and rare.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And the two-time Emmy nominee you're looking at. I know.
I know. Listen, it's an honor to be nominated. Yeah. Twice? It's incredible. I was not. And,
Think about it.
It's an honor to be nominated.
That replies to one nomination.
Right, right, right.
What is it to be nominated twice?
It makes you a two-time loser.
A two-time loser.
I guess there's that side.
I never think of it that way.
Oh, no, the Emmys are, because we used to get.
Oh, you guys eventually won one though, right?
Yeah, but after I left, that's, which is kind of like, I mean, you know, it would
have been nice to get one when I was on there because I was on there for like the formative first,
whatever, seven or eight years.
but we would go it was actually kind of fun because it was always like a field trip but we'd get nominated for writing i don't think we ever got nominated for show okay um and we would all do a
friday show and then all get on a red eye and then and we get on a red eye and because it was as a guild member when
somebody flies you somewhere part of the guild contract whether you're a writer's guild or actresses
is that you fly first class when you're flying for work.
For the network to pay for our writers to go to the Emmys was like discretionary.
Like they didn't really have to do that.
So all our writers, NBC wouldn't do anything but coach.
Okay.
And every year our writers would walk past like HBO writers in first class,
like Chris Rock writers in first class that everybody knows each other.
And it's like they all have to go back, you know.
And I would always get, they, because they would give me and Conan and Jeff Ross and maybe the head writer, a first class ticket or a business class ticket.
And I would always get it and split it so that my ex-wife could come.
Yeah.
And we were, there was one year where we did it.
Which moves you to coach if you split it.
There was a business class.
Oh, you could go from first class.
Yeah, and then we'd use two business class.
Okay.
And those red eyes were always the really big wide body.
Yeah.
You know.
But there was one year where George Went was on the show Friday and then was on the plane with us too.
And he was and it was this weird, my ex-wife and I were in the first row of business class.
And then right in front of this little partition where they're projecting a movie is George went and it's this middle like throne seat.
Like it's its only one.
Yeah.
There was like, it was like two, one.
two in this plane. So he's sitting like in this little throne right in front of us. I know he talked and stuff. And then, you know, they gave us food and they're playing a movie and it's all dark and most people like my wife had gone to sleep and I'm watching the movie and George peeks through the curtain to me. And, and like I have headphones on him. I'll listen to the movie. I take him down. He goes like, hey man, I'm good. I'm going to. I got my one hitter loaded up. I'm going to get high. Do you want, do you want some?
And I was like, George, you can't fucking smoke.
He's like, no, no.
He goes, it's really loosely packed.
He goes, I'm just going to hit it and walk the length of the plane as I inhale and get
around and then come back the other length of the plane and exhale.
And he goes, it's going to be fine.
And I was like, I didn't say it, but I'm like, do you know your George went?
Like, do you know that like, people will notice you getting high?
I was like, I was like, no, I'm good, George.
Thanks, George.
That's good.
and then he took off and then he came back and came back like he came down the other side
and he came back around and like made me take my headphones up and he went it worked
it was great it worked fine did you smell it do you remember if you smelled it I don't remember
if it kind of worked then I don't really yeah I don't remember it's genius yeah yeah I love that
like oh my god I remember him like when we did the improv Olympic 20th anniversary of Chicago
theater and he was out in the alley getting people high he was such a lovely
Yeah, he really was.
He was great.
I saw him once at a red light in L.A. just sitting, smoking a joint, like,
Hey, George.
Oh, hey, man.
How are you?
You know, like this very matter of fact.
Yeah.
A lot of stoners in this town.
Yeah.
Not me anymore.
Good for you.
I don't get.
Do you get high anymore?
No, occasionally, like I do occasional Turingco gigs.
No, I think I quit four or five years ago.
Turingco, what do you mean?
Like an improv show.
Oh, but it's like your own gig, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, we put together like Brad Morris, Tim Meadows, Rachel Dratch, Stephanie Weir, like, people like that.
Is that what you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And whose idea was that?
Because that's a pretty sweet little thing you guys got going.
We kind of started it because it was like, I think when nothing was happening during the strike, we were like, let's do some shows.
Like, because nothing was happening.
Yeah, Tim does, Tim Meadows does stand up too, and he's always like bugging me that I should do stand-up.
But I'm like, I don't like being out there by myself.
Yeah, the learning curve would be tough for me.
I mean, it's smart, but the learning curve is like improv's easy, much easier.
Right, absolutely.
And you're like with friends.
And that for me was always like the juice that I got out of it was like, you know,
plenty of times in Chicago we'd have shows and they get canceled for weather or one reason
or another.
Yeah.
Find out that we were kicked out of the venue.
And it's always like, oh, all right.
Well, we're all here.
Let's just have a part.
Yeah, we can still go laugh and be funny, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah, just stand up.
I just don't want to be out there.
I did it for a while in Chicago before I left for New York, like, let's say 90.
And it was that bubble that was about to burst where if you had 15 minutes, they would give you a headlining gig in Milwaukee to do 45 minutes.
Like, they were elevating you.
Oh, wow.
So I was in the middle of that.
And so I was like grasping at straws.
I would bring like McKay and Besser to come on.
Yeah, yeah.
Just I don't, we just, you know, I did not do well.
But yeah.
I got propelled really quickly out of that scene.
Yeah.
But I didn't enjoy it.
And I, you have to love honing material and improviser or my skill is like, I like
creating things all the time.
I don't like honing.
Again.
I don't like dialing it in.
For me, it's insufferable to be alone and to eat shit in Des Moines and then go to a hotel
room that's cold and like, they're not rejecting the material.
They're rejecting you.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And I just, again, it was like homework.
It's like I don't want to, like I get so used to going and doing a comedy show where it was like, show up.
And that was, that was all you to do was show up.
And then you just kind of relied on your natural funny.
Yep.
And then the notion, too, of saying the same thing.
And this started when I moved to New York to do the Conan show and had became friends with really good standups.
And they'd say, I'm doing a show.
And we'd go and watch them do their show.
And then a week later, they'd be like, I'm doing another show.
And you go and see the show and you're like, oh, this is the same.
The same stuff.
And then they do another show.
And it's like, oh, yeah, this is the, I just, to me, it was just, I don't know,
I just got so spoiled.
And also there's a bit of machismo when you're an improviser of like, you know, like,
I don't need a script.
Yeah, oh, you got to rely on your little jokes you scribbled down.
Well, there's something to like, I think we enjoy.
the we being improvised. We enjoy the disposable nature of it. Like, we're going to do this thing
and then we'll do something else tomorrow. And that's really enjoyable for whatever reason. We're
not like, okay, I got to tape it. And then I got to listen to it. And then I got to remount it. It's
like, no, when you're done, do whatever you want. Because tomorrow, we're going to do a whole new
thing. It goes out into the night air and it's gone. There's great joy in that. Yeah, that's what's
great about it. And your training is exactly that. And there's no preciousness to it either. Like,
I remember when I got on Twitter and there were stand-up friends,
it'd be like, why are you giving away jokes that you could?
I'm like, what do you mean?
Because it's fun.
Yeah.
Because I think of something funny.
And then I put it out there and people think it's funny.
And they're like, no, I don't do that.
Yeah, there were times when I did stand up, because I did stand up in Chicago and it was like,
you'd go out to lions or you'd go out by the airport.
Yeah, yeah.
Those were the rooms.
And occasionally, you go, hey, man, I do a thing about divorce.
I appreciate it.
Like, what?
You can't own a subject.
Right.
there's that weirdness of like it's not a joke it's like absolutely if you're going to go do
a divorce thing i'm coming up after you i'd appreciate like yeah what is happening here it's like well
if you're so fucking good what does it matter that's you know that's that's that's the other thing
about like the preciousness of the material all right i you know like because it's a for my thing is
like well i can think of more yeah i can come up with more you know like there it's not like oh
I just shit out an egg, and I better be careful because, or I'll never be able to make an omelet.
Like, no, no, I got eggs falling out of me all the time.
Yeah, you know who I met, though, in my early slumming days of stand-up, Bernie Mac.
Oh, yeah.
He was running around.
He was succeeding.
And he was really nice after show.
He's like, hey, man, you're good.
What are you going to do with this?
I'm like, I don't know.
He's like, you don't got a plan.
And then he's like, you need a five-year plan, man.
And he told me his plan.
And I'm like, oh, that guy's good.
Right.
But he was, but he was kind.
Yeah.
It's like, here's what you've got to do, man.
And I'm like, I'm not going to be that.
I'm in the same way.
I could never, I just never, I don't know if it's an improv thing because it's like when
you were talking before about, you know, being in New York and like you should have gone
to L.A.
You should.
I might, there have been whole stretches in my life where it's like, I should be writing a screenplay
as I'm like playing municipal golf.
You know, I really should be getting your clubs regripped.
I should be pitching a show right now.
you know, in the garage getting high, watching my child write a tricycle.
Oh, well, one of these days, I'm relying on a dancing show coming along when I'm, when my body is falling apart.
Yeah, I mean, it is probably wise to not throw away jokes. Sure. If you collect them, you could bank them and maybe make stand up.
I don't know. It's not in my nature either. Yeah, yeah. No, I just, it just seems like, no, it's too much fun, too. It's just too much fun to be funny.
there were exceptions like when we had a sketch show we would improvise like our sunday night improv show and if there was an interesting premise that we initiated yeah one of us would take it away and write it up as a sketch so we were using improv kind of like second city did but yeah you had a container to yeah exactly and it was a sketch container and i feel like even when i was like i got plugged into the sasha barren cone world for a while writing on one of those movies and he just wanted crazy idea after crazy idea so sometimes if i improvise something i'm like that's how i
actually a good premise. I'm going to save that. Yeah. So if there's a container that I can use it for,
I will remember something, but otherwise no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, this movie that you're,
uh, here promoting that I, they sent me a link. I haven't watched it yet. I'm sorry.
You're busy. When I don't care about you that much. Well, you don't care about anybody,
but maybe your wife and your kids. Mm. Yourself. Yeah. I mean, only in that they reflect on me.
You like them when they're nice to you. Yeah. I like.
Like them when they're nice to be in. When they elevate your status. When they're involved in other
topics, it's boring. Oh, you were not talking about me. Do you have to be here? Yon.
No, it's called the Unexpecteds. And you're kind of like, aren't you sort of? I'm the hero. Yeah.
It's like kind of an action comedy. And I met this director, Alejandro Montoya,
wonderful guy. Made up name. Got to be a fake name. No, he's a real. It's a real guy.
Yeah, it'd be a fake name. We met on Flamenhot, which was even Longoria's movie.
Oh, right. And he was like a film nerd, a film school guy.
guy and he started giving me these like Wongar Y movies. So I was in a hotel in
Albuquerque. I started watching your own art film.
Getting an education. Yeah, yeah. And he's like, I'm writing a thing and I was back in L.A.
And I'm like, yeah, let me see it. And so I looked at it. I'm like, yeah, let's do it.
So we made a really fun like action comedy movie, low budge, but really fun. And it's
called The Unexpecteds and It's Everywhere. And it's really good. It's an enjoyable, entertaining,
fun ride good laughs yeah by everywhere you mean it's in theaters right now and no it's not in
theater it's like the internet has it oh i see on demand i see oh so it's like iTunes i got you
whatever yeah yeah yeah for rental or for purchase yes for rents and there's hard and Kevin
Kevin Smith came on because we played his film festival and he wanted to be an executive producer
he liked it so much so he got behind it and he's helping promote it and now because he's a hard
media guy we have these really cool DVDs that you can buy and so it's been a
really good you've directed a number of films yourself right and written two films two films tv shows
usually improvised yeah yeah and and i mean is that how i mean how do you like it because it seems
like so much work and then it's so hard after you make something like it just is very i've directed
tv commercials and that's you know that's like you go and you do it and somebody's paid for it and
and then it's on tv you know but like sometimes i just think about like the like the
it's a never ending independent directing you know like of a show of a movie it's like it's so much work
and then there's and that's just the beginning of the work right when it's done then you got
get in front of it yeah constantly talk about it and make people aware of it and do whatever you can
no it is and i did enjoy it like but it's also like the the movies i made were almost like my
student films like i made one called the high road 15 years ago and i made another one called
a better you like 11 years ago
And I see, oh, like it's like any person, it's like, I wish I can't watch this.
Like, it's hard to watch because you see like, oh, this could have been better or whatever.
And so part of the courage of being a director is the other challenge for me is like, and I just rewatched the second one I made recently because I think it's going to be up on 2B.
So I wanted to make sure that the final cut is the one I wanted.
And I was able to tweak some things.
But it is hard and it's never ending.
And if I did direct again, it would be like.
probably like three actors or four actors in a house over a weekend.
Yeah.
So I could just focus on performance and not ever change locations.
Yeah, yeah.
That is interesting to me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I like directing on the commercials because there's an aspect of kind of like beat the clock.
You know, like you got your list of things you need to do today.
And then, you know, things happen and you have to adjust.
And it's like all like little problem solving things.
I really like that, but it's all the extra stuff about, like, getting it out to people.
I think the hardest thing exhausts me.
For me is, like, you're shooting in the backyard, and then you got the ice cream shop in the afternoon.
Yeah.
And the line producer's like, you can't, we got a, we got a company move.
And like, that pressure, strain gets in my head.
And I forget, like, it's so hard to get a movie up and funded.
You really have to enjoy the fact that we get to play now in front of a camera.
And that's the hardest thing to protect.
Because you want to be a team player and you're like, you're right, you're right.
Okay, we got it.
Right.
Let's go.
Right.
And that's the hard thing, too, is like remembering, like, I don't care for late.
I don't care if we miss the ice cream shop.
We got to just play while we're here.
Yeah.
So that's hard.
Yeah.
Do it make you sad?
I feel like I mean you said.
No, no, not at all.
It's just, it's time.
That's your resting sadness?
No, I look at the.
Yeah, yeah, I'm a deep well of sorrow.
You gave me a word once.
What is it?
It's like.
resting sat i'll think of it now there's like a condition uh oh i know what you're talking about
uh it's a great word yeah and i remember i learned it from you it's sort of like it's not
general malaise but it has a psychological anadonia anadonia yeah yeah yeah love that word yeah okay yeah
i i don't do that anymore now that i'm a dancer yeah um and you're also you and and
you and um timothy simmons i never know whether i
I, because he's always Timothy when he's in official things, but I call him Tim.
I call him Tim, Tim, Tim, Simon.
Yeah, we have a great, hilarious guy.
You guys have a very funny podcast called Second in Command, which you've done.
It started as a VEEP rewatch and now is like has nothing.
Well, you've got to watch a movie with a president.
Right, right.
But then that's really.
Yeah, and then you just shoot the breeze with you guys.
But it's a really fun podcast.
Yeah, it is.
I really enjoyed being on it.
And I enjoy, you know, listening to it too, when I,
you know do listen to podcasts can i tell my favorite uh nutshell of celebrityism sure
emmy week we're running around to parties we're meeting the veep guys at some
entertainment weekly party at the w and it's already late and morgan's like i told them we'd meet
him like can we just go home so we go to the w they're breaking down the red carpet i'm like awesome
so i go the other way and like let's just go in have a drink say hi to tony read tim and get the
and the woman the publicist running the line say oh my god man walsh can you tell me no they're
breaking down it's okay no please just give us five minute please i'm like i
really just wanted to, please.
I'm like, okay, she's like, okay, hang on.
She runs down the line and comes back and goes, okay, you can go in.
Nobody wanted to talk to me.
And she made me want something that I didn't want.
That's great.
That is entertainment.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I just wanted to go in.
Come over here.
Come over here.
Slap.
Hey, wait a minute.
You know, no, I had, that is a microcosm.
Everything.
Oh, I like you're now on video.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's so good. I had, I mean, it's just not exactly the same, but I had once, I used to work out on a gym on Robertson, and I don't know if it's still that way.
There, like that, that little strip there around Beverly and between Beverly and Burton Way is like, or, yeah, I think it's Burton's way.
Boutiqui shop. Yeah, and just celebrities all the time. Yes. You know, like paparazzi. I saw Brad
Yeah, Brad Pitt, you know, shopping for sinks or something.
Yeah. And like, or Paris Hilton would go into Gitson or one of those stores.
And they were just, they'd be three. And there was one time I was walking down the sidewalk and there's like 30 photographers standing outside this store.
Somebody's obviously in there shopping. And I'm, I'm like, I look like shit. I'm in my gym clothes and my hair is all. I'm like bedhead.
And I'm walking and I'm just like, oh, fuck. And I walk. And like eight of them go, hey, Andy.
what's up. Hi, Andy. How are you doing, Andy? Nobody lifts a lens at all. Not anyone's like,
no, no, they're not worth a photo. It's like, hi, fellas. Thank you. You don't want that.
Yeah, but I was fine. It is funny, though. It's all ridiculous. It's all so ridiculous.
It is. It's really funny and it's really fickle and it's like, whatever. Yeah. Whatever.
Well, Matt, thank you for coming in. Thank you for having to talk to you.
and everyone should go see.
Watch the unexpected.
It's really funny.
Plug into the unexpected.
Yeah,
it's great.
It's really good.
Yeah,
highly recommend it.
Because Christmas is coming.
You need those dollars.
Well,
I wouldn't see anything until it probably makes a million or something.
You know what I mean?
Oh, well, and fuck it.
You people don't have to watch it.
No, they do.
It's good.
Oh, okay.
It's good for the world.
So watch comedy and to see these young performers I'm playing with it.
No, I want to see it just because I'm at,
I definitely want to see it because I would love to see you starring in it.
Yeah, it's really good.
Yeah, yeah, cool.
Okay.
All right, Matt, thank you for being here and thank all of you for listening,
and I'll be back next week with more of the three questions.
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