The Three Questions with Andy Richter - Paul Walter Hauser

Episode Date: October 6, 2026

Actor Paul Walter Hauser joins Andy Richter to discuss their shared birthplace of Grand Rapids, Michigan, why he’s excited to make fun of toxic masculinity, being a student of comedy, his side career as a professional wrestler, and his role in the new Resident Evil movie. Check out Paul’s new comedy talk show, Boy Talk, on YouTube! Do you want to talk to Andy and his comedian friends live on SiriusXM’s Conan O’Brien Radio? Tell us your favorite dinner party story (about anything!) or ask a question -  fill out our Google Form at BIT.LY/CALLANDYRICHTER or leave a voicemail at 855-266-2604.Upcoming Call-In Show Topics:10/7 - FAMILY EMBARRASSMENT STORIES10/14 - ANIMAL ENCOUNTER STORIES10/21 - GHOST STORIES10/28 - WORST BIRTHDAY EVER STORIES11/18 - WEIRD FAMILY HOLIDAY STORIES Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the three questions. I'm your host, Andy Richter. And today I'm talking to actor Paul Walter Houser. You have seen him in Richard Jewel, the Fantastic Four, Cobra Kai, the naked gun, and more. His web series Boy Talk Talk Show is available now on YouTube. And it's really funny. I recommend it highly. And you can also see him in the new Zach Craigor film, Resident Evil. It's out now. Here's my conversation with Paul Walter Houser. And then I got stabbed six times. Is that a joke? That's a bit. Okay, I was going to say. Working on a shoot, as they say in wrestling. I understand. I know what you.

I know what it is. I can keep K-Fave. Got a. If you want. Wow. You know. Yeah, yeah. No, I would, if you ever think about,

you're in Georgia, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I live in Atlanta now. Yeah. I live in Atlanta now. Yeah. Two years with the wife and three kids. Because, yeah, I would recommend to anybody coming out here.

Because especially if, and I'm, like, if you don't want to be neck deep in show business, which I don't, it's nice over there. I love what we do, but I got a detach now. I don't like waking up and seeing 17 billboards of like all the things I didn't book. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Way to start your day. Right. Yeah, yeah. As Mark Maren said years and years ago on the Conan show, he said, yeah, he was talking about it.

He said, like, in LA, he goes like, you know, like, sometimes you'll look out and you'll see, like, kind of that sort of gray, brown fog. He goes, that's not smog. That's, uh, that's vaporized disappointment. It's in the air. Yeah, yeah, it's just hanging over the whole town. I love that guy. Yeah, yeah, he's pretty funny. I got, uh, I got choked up. I was leaving, what was I shooting? I was shooting something in London. It was probably Cruella, this Disney thing. Yeah, yeah. And as I was leaving the theater, I was taking my parents to go see that um that movie about uh julie garland with um rene zellwiger as we're leaving the theater i turn my phone back on i have an email that's like hey you've been offered uh an interview for richard jule with mark mary and w tf podcast and i got choked up because it was like wow i didn't have i didn't have carson like i didn't have the thing most of my most the other guys

had it was like for me it was like if you can get in a room with conan colbert or Mark Marin. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And again, to do that before he stopped. It was like, that was super special for me. Yeah, yeah. Now, he's great.

I've known him for a million years. Like, like, even like he used to live upstairs from two of my oldest friends. So I even had like that connection. And like I got to hear like what an insane neighbor he is. Oh, I'm sure. Like just, no, he's just like, you know. Beautiful little curmudgeon. Yeah, just, yeah, just.

Yeah, just like a nervous, wonderful, brilliant weirdo. I also need to tell you, you were born in Grand Rapids, Michigan, 20 years and 13 days late after I was born in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Which is how we planned it. It was really good. If your mother had just been able to hold on for another 13 days, we wanted to. We could have had the same fucking birthday. Don't get me started.

Instead of me and Brad Paisley. Oh, man. I got a, yeah, I share birthday with Larry Miller. Oh, Larry Miller. Yeah, I know. The Chris Guest gang. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I thought there was only room for one guy who looked like a McDonald's toy, but I guess

his room for both. Yeah, no, we spoke to an Oracle in Benton Harbor and we really tried to do the full 20-year gap and it just didn't pan out. Yeah, yeah. Were you born in Blodgett Hospital? No, I was born in Butterworth Hospital. Butterworth? Yeah, yeah.

Sounds way more fun. I know. Well, it is. Like, and as I'm sure, you know, like, whenever that would come out when I was younger, I don't even why it would come out, but just like a butterball, you know, like just as a chubby guy. Yeah. Butterworth, yeah. Butterworth.

I bet you were born and by. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I bet you were greased out of there, weren't you? You had one of those. What do they call them? They call them water births. Yes, yes. But it was butter.

It was, yeah. Butterworth and Butterworth. It was drawn butter. I was like a little lobster. Being honest, it was margarine, but the photos don't perceive. Yeah, it's Michigan. What do you want? No, yeah, I grew up in Michigan, studied at Improv Olympic a little bit in Chicago. Did two levels there in the summer of 2012.

Okay. So I think we have that commonality. We do. We do. And yeah, I was always wanting to break into acting and comedy. Didn't really know how, so I did stand-up and improv and wrote screen plays. I got rep for literary. when I was 19 living in Sagina, Michigan. Wow.

So, like, I had written scripts in high school, and one of them caught the attention of Prince of Pato Young was their name at the time. Peter Prince of Paolo, I know. Yeah, yeah. He repped a bunch of comedy people I love, like the Reno 911 people and Will Arnett. And I was like, oh, man, this is huge. And then I ended up booking a movie.

I went to be a background actor at a movie in Michigan. You know, it's funny, too. Once again, Chips Passing. I'm from Saginaon. you were a part of semi-pro, which famously shot in Flint and was one of the first Texan Senate movies in Michigan. And because of that movie, it was like, suddenly it was like, whoa, are you telling me I don't even have to move to L.A. or New York?

I can film something in my backyard, so I showed it to be a background extra, but I ended up auditioning for a speaking part in a movie, and that was my first film in Grand Haven or New Haven or whatever. Oh, wow. And how did you find out about that? Oh, it was just, you know, the local paper and Facebook at the time we're like slathered with

you know Kurt Russell took a shit at the Starbucks over on Waterway and in Korea. Yeah. Yeah. It was one of those things where everyone was pretty giddy about it. Yeah. My buddy Peter Hins and Kyle Bender, they got to be stand-ins for Will Ferrell and Woody Harrelson and some

scene in a dumpster in semi-pro. And it was like, they're like, you know, for us, we grew up idolizing all these guys and we're like, How crazy is it that you threw on a wig and you were like standing next to Wilford, and Woody Harrelson in our whole time? Yeah, that was a big one for me. But you got to get over that in like five minutes. You know what I mean?

It took me longer than five minutes. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that just to me it's like, well, I mean, and also too, like I have been pummeled with celebrity from my position on Conan, you know. It's like being on SNL, you eventually get call. Yeah, exactly. So it's like I have to like remind myself, oh yeah, it's impressive to people to meet people.

Because I'm always, because if like I meet a famous person that I don't know, I'm like, oh, that's that guy. But it's, but again, it's like the 10,000 hours of being. And also, and also that it, you know, no, learning that just because they're famous doesn't make them special. You know, like, right. There's your ratio of person you'd want to talk to and hang out with. is similar to what it would be out in just the regular walks of life. A thousand percent.

Yeah. Yeah. When I moved to L.A., I was more excited to meet people that I was just a fan of their work. Yeah. Than their celebrity size or whatever. Like I still, to this day, if I run into a Peter Sarsgaard, I'm more excited than if you were like, here's Denzel and Brad Pitt. Because I'm just like, I feel like I have more in common with Peter Sarskard probably. Right, right, of course.

And I think he's one of those criminally underrated, you know, talented dudes. So there's been a couple of those. Sam Rockwell was another one where I did the Richard Jewel movie with Sam. And it was like, to me, he is Denzel. To me, he is Daniel Denzel. He's so fucking good. I just love cool people like that. Yeah.

I've been very lucky. Him, I, and I, is it gentlemen horses? Gentleman Broncos. Gentleman Broncos. Oh my God. He's so fucking. fucking fantastic in that movie. He commits, man.

He's so great. As to you, dude. You're the bit in Talladega nights and, like, it's funny, too. I was, like, refreshing myself because I've watched you for years. But I'm like, let me get this straight, too, and, like, do a fine-tooth comb. And I was like, man, so funny in Talladega. Oh, shit. Oh, Cabin boy.

Oh, dude, elf, of course. Yeah. And that's the one I've seen Elf probably 20 times or whatever. And then obsession was such a fun moment. It was crazy to see you an obsession to see Conan in, if I had legs, I'd kick you. Yeah, yeah. You're both given these cool, earnest performances and really terrific, more dramatic fair. And it's fun for me to get to see that, you know, to go from the sketch type world to,

oh, yeah, these guys are also just people who can access feelings. Right. And if you throw them into, you know, a David O. Russell film or whatever, like, they're going to hit the ball. Well, Conan was. I mean, he's so good in that. And he never, like, he for years would say, like, the reason that he did what he did was because he didn't think he was a good actor. And he never thought he was a good actor for years and years.

And I don't know if he would, if you pressed him now, if you'd say, if he would say, like, I'm a, yeah, I'm a good actor. And I think that it took a lot of convincing to get him to do that. Sometimes it is, yeah, you can get in your own way. Yeah. And then block your own access. Yeah. I have a theory that anyone can act.

It's just a matter of what is your range. Yeah. Because if I asked, you know, it's that Terrence Malik, Gus Van San thing of like, we grabbed this guy on the street and then he did three scenes in our movie. It's like that's true anywhere you go. It's just what can they do well? Yeah. And I was, yeah, Conan really blew me away in that movie.

I guess I just wasn't expecting it. I was waiting for something comedic and then the whole time it was really earnest. I was like, oh, this is cool. I like this. Yeah. I think he needed a few years off of late-night television to reach that state of calm where he could do that. Yeah.

Because, yeah, it's, it was, that was, he was on a very high RPM treadmill for a long, long time. Yeah, that's, that's, um, it's one of those jobs that the late-night gig is so interesting because the way I perceive it from my, my limited knowledge, just being a guest on a few things. It seems like the work itself is fun and does only take up X amount of your day and you have people supporting you.

But then it comes with all this other stuff nobody sees, which is commercials and branding and getting fitted for suits and talking to the press and planning out different things and having to manage a vacation or your kid's soccer game around.

Like, there's just so much non-camera stuff that it also seems like an absolute hassle and exhausts. It's, you know, everything has its has its pros and cons. Yeah. And I mean, and what was great about especially, I mean, in the last stretch, like the, certainly the late night with Conan O'Brien was great because it got me started in show business. and in a way too that I was not like I didn't I didn't want to be myself on television you know what I mean I wanted to be an actor

you know I didn't want to be I didn't want to be me you know and then this happened and I couldn't you know I'm not going to say no to this and I knew that I got people doing comedy bits on the show there were sketches so it's like you have to differentiate

yeah and I mean and I was like I know I'm going to get to act and I'm going to and then you know I started to do remotes on the show. So I had to kind of, which is like, you know, you're going to Marty Grah to interview Little Richard. Like you don't learn that in school. And then you have to just be like, oh, fuck, okay.

Yeah. And so a lot of learning on the job. That's so funny. And, but then the TBS show, what the, so, and I also taught me, and this is, and I've told him, this is the greatest gift that Conan gave me. me was inviting me into the quality control process of that show. Like, I learned how to produce a show because he allowed me to produce, you know, to like say, this bit isn't working.

This needs a new ending. Let's cut that. That's not good enough. That's fantastic. We should leave that. It doesn't, it's not doing well. Who cares? Just it should, we should do it.

No, yeah. He let me do all that. And then the really beautiful thing about the TVS show is that I was, I was, I worked minutes from home for 11 years and had a steady gig and show business. Yeah. And it's like, that's obscenely blessed and, you know, and privileged. Like I, you know, I got to really see my older kids grow up and be there for like dinner. That's awesome.

You know, and there's not a lot of people who get to, in our line of work, they get to be home for dinner. A lot of non-show business people not making it home for dinner. Right, exactly. Whether it's the commuter or the hours of the workload. Yeah. That's become a universal problem, I'm sure. Can't you tell my loves it grows? I liked, I was reading, I got 37 pages into the Elf book on the way here,

and then my dumbass left it on the plane with my phone charger. Oh, that's all right. So I got to my hotel last time. I'm like, I don't have my phone charger. I don't have a book. I was going to get a finish because it's not. Well, now it's been leaked. It's going to be traced back to you.

Say it will. My fingerprints are all over that. You, of course, are referring to Elf Unwrapped. Yeah. Coming out from Day Street on November 3rd. It's the behind-the-scenes stories of a modern Christmas classic. Fun, easy read, kind of like the SNL book where they're interviewing SNL people just talking about the show. Yeah, yeah.

It's got the fun actual kind of storytelling from your POV and your voice, but then it breaks into interview segments with folks that worked on it. And it's, it's, I love the part about Smigel, you know, basically. saying like we're going to have you sit in the chair with cone near cone and it's like it also takes a certain brilliant person to point out somebody like you or me and say you yeah and like that having that person in your corner i think people like robert smigel don't get enough credit for how much they've influenced and how yeah absolutely yeah yeah i i i and i also i'm terrible at figuring out what to do with myself. Like that, you know, on the early days of the Conan show.

Like where do I put my hands? No, no. Like, I got to write a bit that's going to showcase me. Oh, okay. You know, or, or let me do an inventory of my skills. I think that this bit would be, would show me off in a good way. I don't, like, I'm not good with that. So I needed Robert to go, you should do this.

Yeah. Like he would do think, like, what I think the first. But she had the SNL chops of like I wrote for people. I wrote for funny people. He's also just brilliant, you know. But I think the first thing I did out of the studio was he said, I was thinking about like you, because the New York Marathon was on. He goes like, I was thinking about maybe you running the marathon,

but you're doing it over a period of days in chunks. Like, you know, and I, you know, like where I'm doing it. Like, I'll do, I'm going to run the marathon, but I'm going to do it over six days. And it's like a book. I'll do two chapters a day. And he was like, it's all he needed to tell me. And I was like, oh, I know exactly. You know, I can all right, I'm going to go do that.

And he didn't have to say anything more. And, you know, it's just so funny. You know, different, different. I could work out the bits and stuff. But I would have never thought, here's a thing for me, you know, to do. So. Well, and there are idea guys. They're execution guys.

Sometimes you're lucky to get a guy or gal who does both. Yeah, yeah. But like the idea, like the guy. Like the guy I work with on my show Boy Talk, the Boy Talk Talk Show, his name's Julian Sergi. He was an I-O, second city guy from Chicago. Yeah. He's probably seven years younger than me or something like that. Yeah.

But he is, you know, when we go to write a screenplay, which we've written a few things together, when we write, I'm usually the one click clacking and doing action lines and kind of, kind of like setting the table for the meal, if you will. Yeah, yeah. And then he is this brilliant, generous idea guy who, like, you know, I'll be mad at him for spelling some shit wrong in our script. And I'm like, did we really just send this off to Matthew McConaughey and it's spelled wrong? But he's also the guy who will come up with the best idea or have the whole idea for a movie in an elevator pitch.

And I'm like, good God, that's its own special thing. Absolutely. Yeah. You're a minister's son, which, I mean, is kind of show business. you know, it's a little bit. Yes, no. He's putting on a show every Sunday. I mean, I think Cat Williams said it best, right?

Everything's a campaign. Yeah, yeah. Everything is. And, but I mean, but where did you get the nerve to say that this is what you were going to do? I, yeah, growing up in the church, it was like they did, they did do a lot. I mean, there was choir and there are theatrical things in a church and school setting, pro-cally speaking, where it's like there were Bible plays and stuff and music groups. I always kind of raised my hand for it.

Yeah. And then I remember in like fifth grade, me and my buddy, Ryan Kunitzer, who I saw two nights ago, he went and saw me wrestle in South Carolina. His front row was very surreal. Your friend of 35 years is watching you live out your childhood dream. Yeah, yeah. It's pretty sweet. But he and I, like, we started improvising and, like, adding stuff to the play.

It wasn't in there. So it's like Nehemiah's trying to build this tower or whatever to honor God. or whatever he's doing. And I haven't read Nehemiah in a while. Nehemiah, whatever. Whatever the fuck this guy's doing. Fucking Nehemiah.

Yeah, he's putting up a Costco. But we were in the background, like we're supposed to be like the guys who are hazing him and kind of like roasting him for doing this silly thing even though it's God's will. And so we start doing like the Rick Flare strut behind him

and going, woo! And like adding all this shit. And like stuff we, thought was funny and people in the church are laughing and stuff and like you and I'm like so like there was some there were a couple just touch points of performance where yeah you get a reaction you go oh that thing that was in my head that I think is funny they think is funny yeah yeah oh well if this is true what else is true you know yeah yeah so I got really into theater I did 10 plays in my four years of high school I started writing screen plays when I was 16 I wrote a full-length feature before I graduated

to high school. Wow. He started doing stand-up comedy when I was 16 at like churches and coffee shops and bars. Wow. So it was very just immersive. I was on IMDB.com like an hour a day just like looking at people's trivia pages, figuring out where did Phil Hoffman go to school? How did Marty Shortbreak in?

Wow. It was very, very much my thing. So my grades were like a 2.7. And my, you know, my SAT was like a 23. But like extracurricularly, I was like, Max Fisher and Rushmore, where you're doing like 80 different things. Yeah, yeah. And were your parents okay with that?

With the low grades and everything, but, you know, as long as you're directed and happy. I think they saw that I had some raw talent. And obviously a lot of that had to be nurtured and corrected and figured out. Like I always tell people I'm very upfront about, I don't think I'm very delusional with what it is I do. I think I have a pretty good self-awareness and a good barometer for reality. And I think with acting, I wasn't a wonder. kin like a hilly joel osmond in six cents when i was nine years old i couldn't have done the six sense yeah yeah i couldn't i would have been doing fart jokes and mispronouncing so yeah yeah

but i did have kind of the weird fearlessness of like an andy coffin or or uh chris farley to just jump on stage be uber confident own a bit and and try to so my parents were cool with them My dad didn't love everything I was watching, you know? Right. He was like, you know, catch me watching South Park or Pulp Fiction or whatever it is. But they were really supportive. Everybody in my hometown was like, Saginaw was not like, you're never getting out of this one horse town.

Right, right, right, right. It was never that. It was a bunch of people going. You're a son of a Saginaw fisherman. Yeah. Like the old song. It was more like, hey, there's no more fisherman jobs in Saginaw. You should do the fucking Hollywood thing.

Get out of here. Dow chemicals going down. Yeah. Yeah. No, it was, it was very, it was nice that I've had that support the whole way through and sweat equity and trying to be ready for, as you know, it's just about being, am I, can I prepare myself for whatever God might throw in my lap? And for whatever reason, I've been thrown a lot of cool shit.

People give me too much credit, though. Like, I like what I do. I think I'm good. But like, dude, you can. wake up on a Monday and have nothing. Yeah. And then seven weeks later, get a call from Clint Eastwood's casting director. Yeah.

Like, it's that volatile. Yep. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, my parents never could. They're like, well, it's good. You're doing something now, but what's next? I'm, I, nothing. And they're like, oh, that used to be sitting in the what's next.

How do that? Like, well, a lot of compartmentalization. Same way I deal with you, mom. Yeah. A lot of compartmentalization. Therapy. Now, I always tell you, when I meet young actors or actresses and they want advice, which happens about once a year. They, I always tell them the same. When I chase them down. Hey, you! Excuse me. Is that a Sid Field book? Come here, kid. They're like, I'm not a kid. I'm 19.

I'm your age. Yeah. I'm a CPA. Sorry, this is what happens. I go to downtown and then I never leave. You're rifting. It's bad. I always tell people the same thing. I'm like, me telling you, like, acting advice is silly because that's like Michael Jordan trying to tell Kevin Garnett how to play basketball. It's like they have both been designed differently. So you can give some tips or advice, but at the end of the day, KG's KG. So I tell them, I'm like, go find your church, go find your hiking trail, go find your cheeseburger, like have as much of a life as you can outside of

Hollywood stuff because being dogged and your pursuit is good but you're going to have times where it's so damn quiet you'll drive yourself crazy if you don't have a life if you don't do something. And also if you're just show business, all your show business is going to be about show business. You got to have a life to play someone that, if you're going to play somebody that has a life

or you're going to write about life, you've got to have a life. I met Adam McCain's, Chicago briefly when I was like 19. Yeah. I was at the Piven Theater where, you know, his wife, Shiro's from there. Yeah. And he, the advice he gave me in a group of people, he said, go, go do anything. Don't make it about you.

Make it about the experience. Go to the party. You don't want to attend. Take a pottery class. Take a salsa class. Go to the funeral. The guy you barely knew because everything you're doing is going to bleed in and influence your writing and acting.

Yeah. And I was like, man, what good advice of being well-rounded in your environments you trespass and what you do? Yeah. Well, and I think it's, especially with film school, because I went to Columbia College Film School in Chicago. Oh, you did for acting? No, just for film, for, you know, making movies. Yeah, yeah. Like, I was a screenwriting major, but I mean, that didn't matter.

But it's like majoring in communications. Exactly. It'll take you far, kid. Well, I mean, it is, you know, I ended up, yeah, I went to film school. So I saw a bunch of art films and stuff. And I understood story in a sort of rudimentary way. But it wasn't, but I wouldn't have continued in the film business if I didn't load trucks well. If I couldn't keep a lunch order straight, you know, if I didn't.

Yeah, you know, or just, or be able to figure out like in those days, they had what they called video assist. Because everything was shot on film and there was a video. tap so they could and then you'd record it on three quarter tape so you can replay it for the clients yeah which was invented by jerry louis by the way he invented that system we all know that you don't have to say okay sorry guys very i am sorry whitney the congen jerry louis video desk yeah but like you know being hired to somebody going like come do video assist on this thing and going like oh yeah oh sure absolutely and not having any fucking clue as to how to do it but figuring it out pretty quickly you know i hear that

that that's part of the thing people take away from SNL outside of trauma is a lot of them seem to say that they got their bachelors or masters in production in general because you got to produce your piece. You got to learn how to talk to celebrities. You got to learn how to talk to the press. You got to know about camera angles. It seems like a really great breathing ground for. Oh my gosh. I can't imagine. Well, I can't imagine because I dreamt of being on the show. And I'm also a psychopaths. So I think I could have thrived there, but I likely my comedy ego would have gotten in the way. I would have had an idea for a sketch that I thought was genius. And if they cut it twice, I would have been like, fuck you guys. Would you have like thrown? Are you the type to throw a scene

or like make a scene or would you just storm off? No, no, I just, I'm the type of person who will equal parts. I would have been the guy at S&L who would have spent his money buying everybody pizza and beer on a Wednesday or a Tuesday night writing thing. Yeah. And I would have been the guy who sat and prayed with you and went to St. Patrick's when your mom was sick. Yeah. But I also would have been the same guy who if I know something's really funny and somebody

doesn't get it, I'm not going to back down if I feel some sense of true objectivity and what it is I'm doing. Yeah. And to this day, I do that with filmmakers where I'm like, I always bow to the director and I'll do what the director wants at the end of the day. It's their show. I'm being invited. But I've produced stuff where I'm like,

there are some producing scenarios where I tell them, I'm like, guys, you get this actor, you're ruining your movie. Yeah. I'm telling you, like, you don't know it, but I know it. And I'm telling you. And so I pick my pitch with intellectual authority in creative spaces. Yeah. And I just, I can see being at SNL and probably getting more frustrated than I would

anticipate when you're in the sort of crucible of like especially like a daily show where you're coming up with ideas and stuff you do get to a point though like my friend Tommy Blatcha once told he once said

he goes pitch it the first time if it if it gets dropped and you don't believe in it that much let it go if you really believe in it pitch it a second time and if it gets dropped, let it go. But if you really, really, really believe in it, pitch it the third time.

But that's it. Yeah. And I knew. Have a cutoff. Yeah. And I just knew because you can't. There's just like, and also, I have experienced having the funniest fucking idea I've ever come up with and telling it to three people whose judgment I trust and then going,

eh, and going like, oh, I guess it was just me. You know, I mean, that's certainly within the realm of possibility all the time. I can't. And with our improv background, there is a thing of like, you get the comfortability to succeed or fail in the moment. Yes. And it's like, even if it didn't succeed, I got it out of my system. Yeah, and you just throw shit out there and it didn't work. You move on.

I was really into like Monty Python and Jackass when I was younger. Yeah. Still am. But I just mean, like, that. group think of let's go out and do it, that was a big part of my identity coming up in the business where it was like we would take money out of our own pockets and go shoot and on the street segment or a sketch for funny or die and try to get on the main page or whatever. Yeah, yeah.

We were very much, I was very much a doer. So I remember me and that guy mentioned earlier who was Woody's stand in for a minute on semi-pro. This guy, Kyle, I had an idea. I'm like, we should set up a lemonade stand on the side of the road and then tell people that it's to raise money. Like, get them to know it's like a fundraiser thing and then tell them it's to raise money to get television sets in prisoners' cells and just see what the reaction is.

And we did this. We shot it in Saginaw. And it was like, it was, the results were really, really funny. And I told Knoxville, I'm like, we kind of did some jackass stuff. And I told them that. And Knoxville goes, oh, that would be too smart for us. We were too busy. We were too busy.

lighten our, singing our ball sacks and running into brick walls. Shitting in display toilets and hardware stores, you know. But I think with Boy Talk, it was like, I like trying to scratch multiple itches. Doing the movie Resident Evil for me was very much like, I'm trying to work with a cool filmmaker and get a cool movie. I'm so stoked for that movie. Oh, man. Yeah, I got some high hopes. I haven't seen it yet all.

The premieres of my night. But I, but with Boy Talk, it was very much. much like, oh, thank God, we're not making any money and we have a limited time to shoot this, but all the crazy things that we think are funny, we get to just kind of authoritatively put on to the world. And that, and we lucked out with the guests. I mean, the eight guests we got were really game in a way that they really didn't have to be. Yeah, yeah.

And that was a real blessing. Yeah. I think by now people have been, I don't know if it's like Eric Andre or, you know, like different people. I think they're used to now, like, okay, this, of going into a situation where it's all subversive, wacky. Yes. Like, it's all sort of like a facade. Like, this is not real talk show.

This is like a talk show sketch. The postmodern crowd kind of appreciates the Andy Kaufman stuff. Yes. It's come around full circle more. And I, yeah, Eric Andre, Tim Heidecker. Yep. I was going to say, yeah. And comedy bang bang or, you know, Scott Ackerman.

Just, you know, talk shows that are like, it's not really a talk show. It just, it has all, it has a desk, but it's not really a talk show. I really like that stuff. Yeah, I do too. I'm very attracted because I think they're always in that realm especially or that, what we could call like a cerebral, like sort of comedy subgenre. Yeah, absurdist. Yeah, yeah. I think in that world, you get to kind of say or pretty.

something true while being violently silly. Yeah, yeah. And I think, you know, Adam McKay talked about that to my buddy Julian. He was like, you know, with stepbrothers, we're talking about arrested development of men. And with Anchorman, we're talking about sexism. Like, we actually have something to say, but we're also doing it through the playground of comedy. Yeah, yeah. And I think with Boy Talk, we were very much like, we were really tired of just the steroid

popularity of the Andrew Tates and the try and by the way there are times I like watching Joe Rogan there have been interviews that I've been like that was really good but it's just like there is an overall veneer of kind of what I'll call

I want to be careful but I'm also not a careful person so fuck it I would say there's a veneer and a bit of a disease going on of undereducated authoritative people oh boy and and I think I think there's also a weird shift in young people being attracted to having a lot of money, talking really tough, not fact-checking, and maybe not even treating people well in the case of the Andrew Tates or whatever.

Yeah, yeah. And, you know, showing up to the MMA event on the White House lawn. It's like, I'm just so not into it. So if I can make fun of that while also do we got like and just point out the absurdity of it. I think there's, hopefully there's an audience for it. Yeah. No, it's really, I saw, I think, five of them, and they're really funny. Oh, you watch a lot.

Yeah, yeah. No, they're really funny. Well, it's not too long either, and I have a terrible attention span. Thankfully, we try to keep it reasonable. They're like, I think they're like eight to 20 minutes. That's perfect. You know, like the longer you go, the less people stick watch. Yes, exactly.

Yeah. Or a toilet watch, but I like, depending on who you are. Yeah, depending on what you are. Yeah, and what you ate and what is going on with your life. Yeah, I'm always just like the thing about the sort of manosphere, especially the comedy one, it's just the sour grapes of like, we fellas have had it really good.

And now it's just like in the last, I guess, 40 to 50 years, like we're kind of can't just say whatever we want without any context. Their emotionality and entitlement gets in the way of logical metrics. Yeah. So you can, this happened with, who'll I say this to? I got off Twitter, thank Jesus. Yeah, me too. But I was on there for a minute and I had so much fun just checking little things and commenting or reposing.

But I said something to somebody and I was making a point, which it's such a fair point. I can't believe I got the flack I got for it. But I was trying to say that, like, based on the logical nature of the passage of time, the things we think are so important now will be nothing in the future. And that's even the rapidity of the outpouring of content will make that even more true and make things even more relevant quicker. Yeah, there's a turn. Things get lost in the froth, like, so quickly.

And I was just trying to say to them, like, like, there are movies like Night of the Hunter and wrestlers like a Nick Bokwinkle who are brilliant, but we're being realistic that in 2038, most people aren't going to give a shit. Right. And it doesn't mean they weren't brilliant. It just means the passage of time.

Yeah. Logically, mathematically will alter the impact of said things. And people just were like, I can't believe you would say that about such and such. And I'm like, I'm, this is not, I'm not web-m-dying this. I'm telling you that this is the nature of fact, and you're getting your pubs in a twist. And I just, I have, I, I'm realizing more and more now that like,

it's really a bit of a fool's errand to try to make any point, uh, in the mass public because too many folks are emotional. Oh, yeah, no, it's no. There's a lot of people that may, what could be real, when I, I got on Twitter in, uh, I think 2010 had really, really had a lot of fun. I had a lot of fun for a number of years. And then motherfuckers ruined it.

And they're still out there ruining it. They're ruining it on blue sky. They're ruining it on Instagram. I can't even enjoy truth social anymore. Social being the opera. Yeah, no. No, just people are getting all fucking mad about stuff where it's like... Some of them are bots too, man.

Yeah, yeah. It's crazy. that literally, it's hard to know. You look at their page. If you click on their profile, it's like, it's an anime character. There's like three followers and then like 40 following. And I'm like, this isn't a real thing. Yeah, I don't think this is.

And no posts. Yeah. All replies. Yeah, yeah. It's silly. I think the Manistphere thing for what we're trying to do, it's just to, yeah, I use the word toxic masculinity. I use that phrase. And a lot of people are like, masculinity isn't toxic.

It's actually. No, no, no, you don't understand. I'm using an adjective that you could apply to anything. It's not that masculinity is toxic or femininity, but the toxic part is the extremism. Yeah. And the adaptation of it. And so there's toxic Christianity. Yeah. There's toxic Islam. There's toxic masculinity. Yeah, yeah.

Toxic toddlers. Like, it's everything. There's toxic love. Yeah, of course. In fatuation or, you know, what have you. So I guess if those that really won't get it will be the folks that feel like, oh man, Hauser used to be cool,

but now he's talking about Trump. Now he's woke. Yeah, yeah. He's woke. It's like, dude, I am the furthest thing from woke. I think Jesus is my Golden Globe and Emmy speech. Yeah, yeah.

And I live in Atlanta. Yeah. And I'm a fucking weird old who wrestles at wrestling matches. I got news for you. You're woke in terms of like that you believe in. woke to extremists. Yeah. Well,

woke to extremists, but also like, I follow you, I see what you post. You, like, believe that poor people should receive some assistance.

And you believe that, like, rich people shouldn't hold up all the money, you know, another Jesus thing. All that Jesus shit is pretty fucking woke.

And I'm sorry, I called it shit. But, but, you know what I mean? That's like so much of what they're against. How did that become woke?

I don't know. I don't. And also, woke, smoke. Who gives us? a fuck you're talking about caring about people you're talking about like about taking care of people as opposed to just being angry at people and picking out enemies and shit it's really no different

than my three-year-old son jonah who i love to death but he's in that age where you know if somebody if he's not playing with his toy and you touch it oh yeah he's suddenly like right and i think a lot of folks think that equality negates their own intake and their own possibility of ownership or having. And it's like the math isn't mathing. You're actually a three-year-old who's ready to grab a letter opener and put it to my neck if I touch your tonka truck. Right. That's really what it is.

Or like I have a six and a half-year-old. She doesn't do it so much anymore. But like give her some food. And she's like, I don't want that. So I'm like, all right, I'll eat it. No. Wait. What the fuck?

Give me my chickpeat kale bowl back, I guess. No, it's, no, it's, there's just too many selfish people who are being told. Lack of awareness. It's okay to be selfish. There's a, you know, like, there's just, it's okay to pollute the atmosphere. It's okay to feel a certain way about brown people, you know, it's okay. That's all okay. It's all natural.

I mean, you know, I mean, it goes back to, well, it goes back forever, but, you know, like Nixon was, there was the. silent majority, which just meant, you know, like, it's, we're all racist. You go ahead and be racist. There's also, there's also those who have just been in high office who have made peace with Malfeasance. Yeah. So you had like McNamara during Vietnam, literally his metric for success was counting bullets spent, bodies piled. I mean, things that are more rooted in emotionality than any sort of reality of winning or losing. And when you have that type of silliness at the highest level, it's like, well, what do you expect Dan from Home Depot to do? Yeah. It's like, is he supposed to be above reproach of our own leaders and intellectual thought people? And, yeah,

I think, I think the one thing I respect or sympathize, empathize, I never know how to use it. The one thing I thighs with for folks on the far right is the one thing that the liberal Hollywood does is sometimes the folks in Hollywood get very riled up about one or two things. And then they are silent as a corpse when it comes to other things. It's like, well, if you're really, you can, it's, I like that. You give a shit about transgender kids. I like that. I'm with you. But if you are that riled up about that bathroom scenario,

but you're dead quiet about the Epstein files, I think you're a little bit of a chicken ship because you know one will cost you nothing and the other could cost you something. Yeah, yeah. And I think that's the chicken shittiness is a little bit of a thing. Yeah. That I think as a party, the Democrats,

if we want to make new stars and beat some of these Republicans, we're going to need to find the Talarikos and Mondamis who are willing to smile. and posture up and kill it. Yeah. Did I make it awkward? No, no, not at all. No, I mean, because I don't know how far down, you know, because honestly, I like,

politics just bum me out these days. And I've been political, most of my public career. And I, lately, I'm just like, there's just a hundred impeachable things, 200 impeachable things going on, like on a daily basis that it's like, oh, okay. In any other line of business. Yeah, yeah, or any other, you know, and then the thing of like, well, if Kamala Harris had, if Joe Biden had and then fill in the blank of one of the 200 or 100 things that the Trump administration or their family or whatever. So many of them, you know, like if Obama had done that, like, there's just so much of it that it's like, oh, nothing matters.

Nothing. Yeah. There's no, there's no parity. there's no sort of like equality. And for them to every time now they get mad about a tan suit kind of moment. Yeah. You're just like, you don't believe that. This is all fucking, again, this is all a shoot.

Yeah. This is all a fucking shoot. Or all work. Yeah. Or I mean, yeah, exactly. I'm sorry. No. It's all a work.

It's you're just, you don't believe that. Like, you know. Do you remember that thing where, um, was it? Zelensky, who sat down in the oval with who's the guy, hillbilly illy guy, I can't even think it was his name. Jady Vance. Yeah, he's literally

not important enough for me, remember his name. Jady and Trump were sitting down with Zolensky and Jady was like, can you thank us? Can you thank us? And can you dress up a little bit? Yeah, there's some other fucker. Like, why didn't you wear a suit? It was, but it was so indicting.

He was indicting himself in that moment because what he doesn't know is that him and Erica Kirk and a lot of these personalities, I act for a living. I know how to act. I'm pretty proficient at it. Yeah, yeah. They're not good actors.

I know. And they don't know it. I know. And they act all day. Yeah. So in a moment like that, where Erica's like, we're going to find the killer,

but I forgive him. And then in a moment where you have JD trying to hand Zelensky his lunch and tell him how to dress like Bill Cosby being like, pull your pants up and turn down the rap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, dude, you're a horrible actor. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And this is pathetic. Right, right, right, right. I don't want to let you go here before we talk about the wrestling. Oh, man. Because that's like, Ron, Ron Funch is a dear friend of mine. And he did the exact same thing, which has turned, like, I've achieved some success. How can I turn this into getting into a fucking wrestling ring? And you did that.

And I, the first thing that I am like, aren't you fucking worried about like snapping your neck? Aren't you worried about, you know, or are, do they protect you enough? Yeah, no, we, I mean, the whole goal in the ring is to entertain people and protect each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's no different than fight choreography in Mission Impossible. It's a little different than fight choreography because there is real content. There is real contact. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And there are real aches and pains and that says. But I had done 90% of my own stunts my whole career of 17 years. I just like getting scrappy and doing stuff. Yeah, yeah. Even being a conventionally, I was a shape-looking guy. No, I was, I, pratfalls, I used to do. Oh, yeah. Just, I mean, until it got to the point where I couldn't do pratfalls anymore.

Yeah. Like I had, I did a, I used to, you know, different ways that I could fall. And a lot of I learned from wrestling and knowing about wrestling and stuff. And I, but until like I did some kind of bit where I was falling repeatedly and catching myself with my arm underneath me. and then my elbow swelled up and stayed that way for three weeks. And I was like, I don't think I can do this anymore. And there are times where you kind of test the boundaries. You're like, I'll pull it back or I'll amplify.

Yeah. I just, yeah, no, Phil Hoffman and along came Polly with Ben Siller. Phil Hoffman is one of the greatest pratfalls of all time. Oh, yeah, yeah. Where he slips and he falls straight sideways. Yeah. And I did almost a carbon copy of that in this show, the after party on Apple. Yeah.

And I had to go to a chiropractor and a doctor immediately. My neck, because as I slipped and fully committed to the sidefall, my neck had whiplash and went like that. Oh, God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So wrestling, you run into some of that. Which is funny, though. You got to miss.

First comedy goes. Which more people watch it. Yeah, yeah. But I, yeah, no, I try to do cold plunges and different types of therapies and stuff to stay intact. And when I do a match, I'm really. really like, I tell everybody, my reps, my wife, I take calculated risks. I do things that I feel I know how to do. And there are plenty of things that other wrestlers have pitched me, like,

what if I give you a pile driver from the middle rope? And I'm like, no, I'm not going to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I try to find the things I can do. I have a match coming up with this guy, Steve Carrino. He's like a legendary wrestler who now works for WWE in their developmental program, like the AAA or whatever, and a AA ball. and he and I are going to, it's going to get messy.

And it'll be three, four hundred people in North Carolina, but I'm definitely going to go through tables and use chairs and throw myself into it because I love it. And I know it's going to live on YouTube forever. And I'm going to get to, you know. Do you, would you blade? I have. You have, you've cut yourself?

Yeah. Yeah, you take some, you take some bear, some blood thinner. and you drink some water and then you just do a little little thing with that tip of a razor. It's like you snip off the corner of a razor and you put it either in like your wristband or whatever. Yeah, and then you just give yourself. And also when you're sweating,

if anybody's ever had a head cut, it gushes. It looks like you're like gruesome. Near death, but you're actually, you don't even, I've never even felt the cuts when I've done them and I've done it maybe three times. But it adds drama. It's fun.

It's a great visual. And yeah, you're doing what Rick Flair talked about. You're paying the price, brother. Yeah, yeah. You're like, this is part of it. How did you get it started? I had a guy named Sammy Callahan who has wrestled all over the world. He's now a promoter and Booker, and he asked me to do a show with Ronda Rousey and John

Moxley and Jacob Fattu, like a lot of respected people in our industry. They're doing a show to raise money for the Maui Wildfire Victor. in 2023. So I went and I thought I would sign autographs, like take pictures. And he's like, do you want to do a match? Do you want to do like a 10-minute match? And I was like, yeah, yeah, I do. And I had had a total of 12 hours of training at the time. Yeah, yeah. And did a match. And I just caught the bug and I had crazy adrenaline. I've never had in my life. I wasn't an athlete in school and I was dreamt of being. So this is my version getting to do some of that.

Do you need, I feel like I'd get gassed in like, 30 seconds. Like I'd just be... Yeah, there are times where I've been... It's two and a half minutes into the match and I'm gas and I'm violently embarrassed. And then there are other times where I'll do a 15 minute match and it blows by and you're like, oh, damn. Yeah, yeah. We got all of our spots in. We did everything. Wow. So it depends. But I, like I said, I used to be 233 at my highest in 2011, 2012 and I'm down to about 231. Yeah.

So I've made strides to get down. And the fact that I can even climb to the top rope and stay there without falling now, like that's a big deal for me. Because when I started, I couldn't even balance. Wow. I was like 260. Wow. I wanted to ask you about that because I, you know, being, I mean, just the shortest,

simplest, fat guy in show business. And like when you were coming into it, like, because I know what, you know, when I was, coming into it. Like, I realized it's like there's a discomfort that you have with the way that you get cast in things. You got a chip on your clavicle. Yeah. For sure.

Because you can't because it's like Jason Alexander tells a story about being in theater school and having a teacher tell him like, hey, he wants to be Hamlet. He's like, you're never going to be Hamlet. Yeah. Try comedy. And you do at a certain point, you want to think like I could be anything. I mean, I'm talented enough that I can be. any kind of character I can play any walk of life.

And I mean, in any out in life, there is like people that aren't the exact physical type that Hollywood thinks every single role has to be. But then you get into the business and it is like, oh, no, I'm, I'm like, I'm not going to be the I don't get to wield a sword. Yeah, yeah, you know. And I mean, do you, how do you come to peace with that? Because, I mean, I don't even know if I'm still at peace with it at times. I'm definitely not a peace with it.

Hence, losing weight and being both a, I like to think I am both a benevolent human being in how I treat people and go about our business. And I've helped people get jobs. I've helped people with scripts unpaid. Like, I've done all the favors out of love and whatever time I can make. but I'm also aggressively competitive. And when I see guys forging ahead, guys within my age range between like a Miles Teller and Austin Butler and a Jonah Hill,

I'm like, I want to compete. I want to do what they're doing and star and stuff. And by the grace of God, I've gotten to do it a couple times. And Richard Jewell, I looked enough like the guy that it was more of a shoe in than a competition with that. And you were really great in that, by the way. Thanks, dude. I don't do a lot of smoke blowing here, but you are really fantastic in that.

Keep it real. Yeah, yeah. But Blackbird, the serial killer thing I did at Apple, that was another opportunity to like, oh, they're giving me a lot to work with. Emmy Award winning. Hey. Yeah. Yeah. Congratulations.

Hey. Yeah. That's some hardware to take home. The Will Ferrell Harry Carey had. Hey. Hey, everybody. Would you eat the moon if it were made? of ribs.

Oh, God, I love that. No, I, I've had about four instances where I've gotten to, like, star in something properly. And I take it seriously, and I try to kill it and hopefully prove myself to be slotted in for something bigger like that. But, but, yeah, I just try to, I've literally had heavy set people pull me aside and be like, hey, man, thanks, you're making us look good or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

At first I didn't know what that meant, and I'm like, is that because I have some measure of success. And what I realize is I think what they mean is you're not just playing oaf idiots. You're getting a variety of stuff sometimes. So it's like giving some people hope. And that's wonderful. It is. I mean, it is great. But it's how I saw Phil Hoffman, Paul Giumati, John Goodman.

Yeah. They did get to play different things. Sometimes you're a teddy bear. Sometimes you're a grizzly bear. Yeah. So I try to try to get that opportunity. No, it's hard sometimes just because, I mean, I used to try. I lost a bunch of weight in the last year or so.

But, you know, I used to make the joke. And it wasn't really a joke. Like, if I could lose 40 pounds, I could get a lot more rolls as the fat guy. You know, because like I was, I was like real life fat, not movie fat, you know. But there's this different. Because you do it's like, there's so many things where you see like, there's the fat guy. And it's like, that guy's not fucking go to Disney. Yeah, Hollywood fat, you know.

But the guy sitting on the toilet. Disney with a turkey leg and a cell phone. That guy's weird. But it's, it is just like really, it, it, there's sometimes the parts that I've got to my old age at one time, they, you know, because they send you something. They're like, there's, you'll, you'll hear about something. You'll ask. There's nothing in there for you.

Like, you know, okay, all right, whatever. I hear that constantly. Yeah. And then, and then you get something. It's like, there's a good part in here for you that you're good at. And there was this one. How do you feel about Cheeto? fingers.

It was like, yeah. But I mean, but there was this like kind of shitty action movie. And it was and the character was like, you know, and then in walks Tony. And in the parentheses, the character description was a worthless fat piece of shit. And I called my age. I didn't have to put it in our talus. My age and immediately. And I was like, which part of that made you?

of me. Oh, the worthless part. You, you like, you like genre, right? You're a genre guy. No, I've, dude, I've passed on stuff. Back when I was, back when I was first starting, I would pass on stuff, my reps would be like, you shouldn't pass on an audition, you're new to town.

And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm not going to play your fat joke in your spoof movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which helps. But then there are other things. Like I was offered Sam Kinnison, John Belushi, who was the other guy got? Rob Ford,

the Toronto guy was a little crack. And I got off for those and at some point it's like, I just don't want to play every fat, goofy dead guy.

Yeah. It's just I don't, I don't think it's good for business or for my psyche or, right, right, right. You know, my two heroes were

Phil Hoffman and Chris Fowley and they're both not here anymore. Right, right. At some point you got to be careful about that. That's good advice to people is kind of self-valuation,

I think, is really healthy. Not an inflated sense, but also not, don't sell yourself short and everybody's pincushion either. Yeah, but I also think, and that's something too, in life, it's not just, you know, it's

starting a show business. Yeah, yeah. In life too, you do, you, yeah, there's a certain amount of shit you got to eat, you know, and I mean, and you're not the king of the world. So like, yeah, you got to make a living and there's certain, you know, micro-humiliation.

You have to. put up with. But then you have to learn when you're like, no, yeah, I'm not going to do that. You have to draw a line. And the thing that I learned, getting through a show business career is like the power of no. Oh, man. Like when you say no to people sometimes, you're scared shitless that you're, and you go like, no, I'm not going to. And then you find out like, oh my God, it's like magic. They respect me more now. Things are better things are happening because I said no to this other again, micro-humiliation.

Yeah. The pretty girl at the party talked to you and you didn't make eye contact in the first 12 seconds. So you're suddenly slightly more attracted to me. Yeah.

It's a thing. It's a thing for sure. There was a job. There was a, and I won't say what it was, but there was a job I was doing where the character I was doing was really hard.

Yeah. And I was almost trying to find my way out of the job I committed to because I'm like, this is going to be so much work. Yeah. Which is pathetic to think that way, but I'm being real here. Yeah. They're paying me well, and then a comedy came around, and it was an easy, fun part in a comedy.

Yeah. And they're like, do you want to do this? It shoots at the same time as the other thing you're doing. And I'm like, I've already committed to the other thing, but this thing looks way more fun. And I said no, because of a scheduling conflict. Yeah. And then they kept coming up on the money. And by the third time they rang my reps, they were offering me the same amount of money

is a really hard thing for one-fifth of the effort. Yeah. And I was like, part of me was like, but also if I'm chasing Austin Butler and Miles Teller and Chris Pine or whoever, I'm chasing trying to be competitive and get good roles, you do have a choice to make of like, do you want to kind of get paid well for putting in minimal effort

or do you want to try to kill yourself on this indie and hope that people see it? Yeah, that's a good point. are important. Yeah. And then, and you never know. You never know whether you've made. I mean, I guess you do kind of know.

But before you make the decision, you don't know whether you're making the right decision. I've done things I thought were totally foolproof, bulletproof. Yeah, yeah. Nobody gives a shit. And you're like, whoa, wow. I really thought that was it. But I also, that kind of brings me back to my faith journey, too, which is just like, the less I try to control everything or believe that I can

and be predictive in my decision, the better I feel. Yeah. Just like give it to God and know that like if you come from a place of gratitude and you treat people well and you show apart. I mean, Conan had that quote at the end of the show when you guys are rapping where he's like, if you work really hard and you're a nice person, amazing things can happen.

It was like, I'm paraphrasing, but that's been true for me. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, no, I, and also, too, like, I'm not, I don't, I don't, I'm not religious, I'm not spiritual, but I do find that. You go, I don't even believe this is a table. No, no, no, no. This is all a dream. No, I, but I do think that, like, just being older and feeling like I'm better at this being alive thing. And it's, it's a lot of kind of Zen stuff.

Let go. Like, don't, don't force it. Like if you let go, you're going to be more directed. Like stuff that it's all contradiction kind of things. Like if you don't try as hard, you'll be more successful. And it, you know, it is something that I try to do. You know, I try to remember. You know, it's like I play golf and it's like if you swing really hard, you're going to fuck it up.

If you swing nice and easy, holy shit, that's farther than I've ever hit it before in my life. What is nice and easy? Trusting yourself. Trusting. Yeah. Yeah. I like that methodology rather than the whole. The law of attraction is that if you, because you can, you can do all the steps and still come up nil.

Yeah. The opposite where less is more, or as scripture says, cease striving. Yeah. It's like, that kind of works. Okay. Lou. Well, boy talk. The boy talk talk show premieres.

Well, actually, we're on the day. It's premiered today. Yeah, yeah, premiered today. And it's really funny. I've seen five episodes, and it's just really funny. You're such a great dick in it at different points. Psychopath. So fantastic.

I love screaming at you, too, you did. And you did, like, your guess, I mean, it's a wide array of people. The Rob Rausch, the guy with the snake tattoo from Traders. Yeah. And I love Ireland. I don't know that shit. Blake Griffin's fucking hilarious. Teddy Swims is great.

Teddy is great. I mean, they really, you got, you know, nobody stormed off, which is its own kind of valuable thing. Yeah, that's nice. But they all played along really, really well. Yeah, the hope is that we're going to shoot another 12. We got an order for 12 more and we're trying to fill in slots. But we're trying to get an interesting array of people from an Olympic fencer and Miles Chambley Watson to a female wrestler actress and Becky Lynch.

It's like we're trying to get interesting people, not just who's our most famous friend. Right. I think, and I'm also like I'm looking forward to the reaction to it because when you say like, you know, like when you basically, we're making fun of men like just can't wait to hear that people lose their fucking minds about it, you know. I'm hoping that there are people that would be offended or that actually are too entertained to be upset. Yeah.

Or be annoyed and it's good for business. That's the pastor's kid. It's always back to conversion. Right, right, right. And you also, uh, excitingly are in the new resident evil, which Zach Craigor directed and it's coming out. Take the family. Take the family to go see Resident Evil.

Remind, remind, remind the kids that they'll be replaced with automation and that their university accreditation won't matter at all. Yeah, yeah. When the zombies come. Take them to see Resident Evil. Right, right, exactly. Well, Paul, thank you so much for coming. Yeah, dude, it's such a pleasure.

It's such a pleasure to meet you. And I've been enjoying watching you for a number of years now. And I just like what you put out into the world. Thanks, man. I know we don't have a lot in common, even looking at us. You can tell we're so dissimilar. Yeah. Grand Rapids forever.

I found some commonality. Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, thanks, everybody, for listening. and I'll be back next week with more of the three questions. The Three Questions with Andy Richter is a team Coco production. It is produced by Sean Doherty and engineered by Rich Garcia. Additional engineering support by Eduardo Perez and Joanna Samuel.

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