The Tim Ferriss Show - #181: How to ‘Waste Money’ To Improve the Quality of Your Life

Episode Date: August 20, 2016

This episode is not going to deconstruct a world-class performer, per usual. This is a short, but very actionable and practical episode about the inner workings of my business. I was asked re...cently how I choose my projects. I riffed on this topic, and shared many thoughts on delegating tasks, future projects, and my involvement -- and break from -- the start-up community. I realized that the real question at the root of many of my decisions is: "How can I waste money to improve my quality of life?" This seems like a bad thing, but it is not. It is trading pennies for dollars. So how can you waste money to improve the quality of your life? I delve into this topic and much more. I hope you'll get a lot out of it. Please enjoy! Show notes and links for this episode can be found at www.fourhourworkweek.com/podcast. This podcast is brought to you by Wealthfront. Wealthfront is a massively disruptive (in a good way) set-it-and-forget-it investing service led by technologists from places like Apple. It has exploded in popularity in the last two years and now has more than $2.5B under management. Why? Because you can get services previously limited to the ultra-wealthy and only pay pennies on the dollar for them, and it's all through smarter software instead of retail locations and bloated sales teams. Check out wealthfront.com/tim, take their risk assessment quiz, which only takes 2-5 minutes, and they'll show you -- for free -- exactly the portfolio they'd put you in. If you want to just take their advice and do it yourself, you can. Well worth a few minutes to explore: wealthfront.com/tim. This podcast is also brought to you by Four Sigmatic. I reached out to these Finnish entrepreneurs after a very talented acrobat introduced me to one of their products, which blew my mind (in the best way possible). It is mushroom coffee featuring chaga. It tastes like coffee, but there are only 40 milligrams of caffeine, so it has less than half of what you would find in a regular cup of coffee. I do not get any jitters, acid reflux, or any type of stomach burn. It put me on fire for an entire day, and I only had half of the packet. People are always asking me what I use for cognitive enhancement -- right now, this is the answer. You can try it right now by going to foursigmatic.com/tim and using the code "Tim" to get 20 percent off your first order. If you are in the experimental mindset, I do not think you'll be disappointed.***If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. I also love reading the reviews!For show notes and past guests, please visit tim.blog/podcast.Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (“5-Bullet Friday”) at tim.blog/friday.For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts.Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Visit tim.blog/sponsor and fill out the form.Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books.Follow Tim:Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss Instagram: instagram.com/timferrissFacebook: facebook.com/timferriss YouTube: youtube.com/timferrissPast guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Jamie Foxx, Matthew McConaughey, Esther Perel, Elizabeth Gilbert, Terry Crews, Sia, Yuval Noah Harari, Malcolm Gladwell, Madeleine Albright, Cheryl Strayed, Jim Collins, Mary Karr, Maria Popova, Sam Harris, Michael Phelps, Bob Iger, Edward Norton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Neil Strauss, Ken Burns, Maria Sharapova, Marc Andreessen, Neil Gaiman, Neil de Grasse Tyson, Jocko Willink, Daniel Ek, Kelly Slater, Dr. Peter Attia, Seth Godin, Howard Marks, Dr. Brené Brown, Eric Schmidt, Michael Lewis, Joe Gebbia, Michael Pollan, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Vince Vaughn, Brian Koppelman, Ramit Sethi, Dax Shepard, Tony Robbins, Jim Dethmer, Dan Harris, Ray Dalio, Naval Ravikant, Vitalik Buterin, Elizabeth Lesser, Amanda Palmer, Katie Haun, Sir Richard Branson, Chuck Palahniuk, Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Rick Rubin, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Darren Aronofsky, and many more.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:03:16 I'm feeling a little lightheaded and a little frisky today. And this episode is not going to be me deconstructing a world-class performer, as I usually do in interview format over two to three hours. This is not that. This is going to be very short, hopefully very, very actionable and practical. I was asked recently how I choose my projects and what I say yes to, what I say no to, and I riffed on this and we recorded it as part of something larger that I'll be sharing in the near future. And I realized that the real question is, at the root of a lot of my decisions, how can I waste money to improve my quality of life? And this seems like a bad thing, but it is not. It is trading pennies for dollars. So how can you waste money to improve the quality
Starting point is 00:04:06 of your life? Well, I will delve into all of that and much more. This was spontaneous. It's off the cuff, so it is not a TED talk, but I hope you will get a lot out of it. And I was encouraged to share it because people there at the time felt like folks might like it. So please enjoy how to waste money to improve quality of life. How do I determine what to delegate versus what to do on my own? This is an ongoing challenge as it is for a lot of people, but a few of the things that I consider are, first and foremost, do I understand the task and the roles and the actions, to-do lists, checklists involved? And this is gonna sound funny, and I don't think this is necessarily
Starting point is 00:04:57 the best approach for everyone, but for me, as a type A perfectionist, I like to have a base level of competency in almost anything that I delegate. And I say almost anything because I'm not a coder, for instance, so I don't need to know how to work with CSS or anything else to work with a designer. But I do know how to sketch and create mock-ups or wireframes. And then the, so I can work with those abstraction layers and then the levels below it, the sort of implementation of that, I don't need to understand as well. But in the case of, for instance, podcast editing, I went into a very imperfect tool, GarageBand in this case, and edited the first probably 20 or 30 episodes because I enjoyed learning that as I enjoyed learning new skills. But ultimately, once I understood how to Gates who said, and I'm paraphrasing, but this was in the 4-Hour Workweek, that when you add people to an inefficient process, you make things worse.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Only when you add people to an it, you're just going to make things worse. It's just going to take longer. So I like to test drive almost every process myself first before I delegate. I think that most problems with delegation, most things that get missed, most mistakes that get made are the boss's fault, not the employee's fault or the contractor's fault. It's because the task itself wasn't clear enough in the beginning. A lot of people delegate because they don't want to do the hard thinking. You have to do the hard thinking. You should delegate because you can give hard work to someone else or time-consuming work. So that's number one. I like to have a base level competency with all these things. And then how do I choose what to delegate? I will look at my highest yield
Starting point is 00:07:20 activities. And the way I will determine that is I will look at, for instance, my to-do list, which is really a list of tasks or next actions of some type. And I'll ask myself, which one of these, if done, will make all of the rest easier to do or irrelevant, right? Because I'm looking for, and I've used this analogy before, the lead domino. I'm looking for the first domino. I don't want to knock down 7,000 different dominoes that are downstream and have to repeat that process. I want to find the one Archimedes lever that, when used effectively, makes everything else either easier to do or irrelevant. And that is what I will focus on, generally speaking. When in doubt, also, the thing that you've been avoiding the longest is the thing that you should at least do the hard thinking on first.
Starting point is 00:08:15 So what is important? Like, how do I know what my most important task is to do before I check email? And the two hours that I've blocked out for that type of deep work, whatever it is that makes you most uncomfortable. But I would look at this list and very often my highest yield activity will be related to one of my more unique abilities. I'm not saying it's unique, singular to me, but for instance, part of the reason that I took,
Starting point is 00:08:44 and this is not delegation, this is elimination. So we're getting very four hour work week here, but right. You have definition, elimination, automation, liberation. Okay. So before I liberate myself by delegating, I want to remove as much as possible. So at one point about a year ago now, I realized that I was replaceable as an investor in the startup ecosystem. The economics were such that given deal structures and absurd things that were happening and an oversupply of capital, if I was approached by an entrepreneur who's just price shopping for valuation, for instance, and I said, no, I would just head out of the line and there'd be 20 behind me to take the deal. And one of my friends said,
Starting point is 00:09:32 please don't stop writing. He said to me, you are replaceable as an investor, but I've seen you at conferences where people come up to you and they're crying because they lost a hundred pounds and it changed their life or saved their marriages, whatever it might be, you're not going to have that impact. You're not going to see that impact, at least, as an investor. And therefore, I try to focus on my unique or more unique abilities as much as possible, the things that I don't think I can delegate. And ideally, I have a Venn diagram of the things that I am uniquely capable of doing well, or somewhat uniquely capable of doing well, the things that I enjoy doing, that's the second circle, and then the things that give me a high yield. And that could be a yield of capital, financially speaking, It could give me a high yield of time. For instance, if I invest 10 hours now in creating a system and making decisions about X, for instance, not to do startup description of how I did this, I decided,
Starting point is 00:10:46 I sat down, I did journaling and came to the conclusion by looking at worst case scenarios, what is the worst that could happen if, how could I get back to this point if I wanted to reverse it, et cetera, decided to do no startup investing. So I did the hard thinking that eliminated a thousand smaller decisions moving forward. Now I just archive any cold pitch that I get. Any cold intro that I get from, say, a venture capitalist to an entrepreneur gets an autoresponder that says, I'm not doing startup investing. Here's the article if you want to read it. And that is, I think, where people should focus before delegating is eliminating as much as possible. Other things that I think about would be largely questions that I ask.
Starting point is 00:11:32 So one of the temptations as an entrepreneur is to look at a task you delegate and say to yourself, this is a fallacy. And the internal dialogue will be something along the lines of, well, I could delegate this, but it's going to take me just as long to describe it as it will to just do it myself. So I'll just do it myself. And here's the miscalculation. The assumption is time is the currency that you are protecting in this case. So time is the most valuable currency. And I would say that time, as much as I talk about it, is only valuable to the extent that you have attention and present state awareness. So for instance, if I have a three-hour block set aside for deep work on writing, and there's a great essay, I think it's called The Manager's Schedule, Maker's Schedule by Paul Graham. Fantastic read.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Everyone should read it. But in effect, for me to write really effectively, and this is true for a lot of coders also and musicians, I need, if they're composing, a lot of time set aside because there's a very long warm-up process and to synthesize takes space, mentally and otherwise. Yes, I could have time in the middle of that to handle sending, for instance, wire instructions to my bank to get something done instead of having my assistant do it. It might be faster for me to do it. I can do it in 30 seconds. It's going to take me this much time to do blah, blah, blah, blah. But the question is, can I afford the distraction? Even if I have to upset someone, postpone it, talk to them the next day, get it done,
Starting point is 00:13:21 pay a late fee, whatever it might be. The question isn't, do I have the time? It's also, can I afford the distraction? Because if in the middle of that three hours, I get a text from my assistants, like, really need help doing this. Can you please do Y? Whatever it might be. I don't know why I started with Y instead of X, just to throw you off. And if I address that, ideally I don't even see the text, which is why I put my phone on airplane, but let's just say I see it. If I address that and I take five to 10 minutes to do it, the three hour clock starts over. So maybe I get only 20 minutes of real good writing done in that period, as opposed to an hour and a half. Was that worth the interruption?
Starting point is 00:14:10 Even though I saved five minutes in the implementation, no, it was a complete loss. It was a total Faustian bargain. So the book that I would recommend, and I've said this before to at least a handful of people, my favorite book on productivity is called The Effective Executive. Terribly bland title by Peter Drucker. The Effective Executive and The 4-Hour Workweek. Look, I'm just sort of assuming that people listening to this have probably already read that. But The Effective Executive is fantastic because it focuses on being effective, doing the right things, not just doing things well. Being efficient. Because you can be really good at doing things
Starting point is 00:14:46 that don't matter. And the effectiveness part, so in a way, I'm not dodging the question, but I think that the vast majority of people I talk to when they say, oh my God, I'm overwhelmed by X, Y, and Z, I need to hire people A, B, and C to handle it. Those tasks largely shouldn't be done in the first place. When I drill down and we have two glasses of wine and talk about their systems and so on, they haven't done the deep dive to really determine the relative value of all these things. They're just feeling temporarily overwhelmed, and they just want to hit the volleyball back over the net and not think about it for a while. So that would be where I would start. and they just want to hit the volleyball back over the net and not think about it for a while.
Starting point is 00:15:26 So that would be where I would start. The last piece I'll throw out there, and I know this is a meandering answer, is that I've been asking myself more and more, how can I waste money, in air quotes, how can I waste money to improve my quality of life? Pick a crazy number, right? So if you currently spend, and this is not prudent to do if you are just scraping by and paying for your rent, this is not a place for what I'm going to suggest. But let's just say
Starting point is 00:15:57 you've hit a level up in your career and you have a little bit of disposable income, your behaviors may be tethered to a very frugal lifestyle that you once had, where your money was a scarcer resource than your time. So for me, I came out of college, my family never made much money, very, very frugal by necessity. Then I get to college, worked as a bouncer, I worked in a library, and then I figured out some other options that made a bit more money, illustration, etc. Graduate, I'm making 40 grand or so a year in Silicon Valley at the peak of 99. Prices are insane. And I found myself, even a few years ago ago realizing, for instance, that I was blowing hundreds of thousands of dollars of opportunity by flying economy internationally when I needed
Starting point is 00:16:56 to sleep. So this might sound funny, but I've had the budget to buy business class tickets for a very long time now. But it wasn't until about five years ago, after I went to a speaking engagement in Australia, I flew economy because I was like, what? I'm not going to spend an extra $2,000 on a business class ticket. Couldn't sleep at all. And was just a complete disaster for a speaking engagement that could have easily led to many, many future engagements. And I did a good job with that. It required a ton of caffeine. It required all-nighters. And my health suffered for about a week.
Starting point is 00:17:36 So it's like, okay, was the $2,000 worth sacrificing my health for a week and being at half capacity? No, easily not at all. The value of my time at being at 10 out of 10 is far more valuable than that. Second, was it worth the potential opportunity cost of the people in the audience who could have hired me for very high paying gigs? No, not at all. So I've modified my older behaviors that were survival behaviors to be more abundance mindset behaviors.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I can always make more money. I can't create more time. At this point, I can't necessarily fix my health if I ruin it. So the question that I ask now is like, okay, my old self would view buying a business class ticket as a waste of money. What other ways can I waste money to improve my quality of life? Maybe that's hiring someone to clean. Maybe that's taking Uber instead of having a car to deal with for maintenance and insurance and parking and parking tickets and all of that bullshit.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Maybe it's, who knows, fill in the blank. So I will do journaling exercises where I'll write down, okay, pick a number. Let's just say that you have, I'm making this up, you have $5,000 of disposable income per month, all right? And I'm putting aside how much you need to save for whatever you want to save for, all right? So if you have college tuition to save for and so on, you need to do those calculations on your own. But let's just say you have $5,000 that you can kind of do whatever you want with, and you're currently only spending $500. And you have all these things that are driving you crazy. All right, well, let's say I wanted to go crazy and spend $2,000 per month.
Starting point is 00:19:13 If you wanted to waste, so-called waste, $2,000 a month to improve your quality of life, what would that look like? What are some crazy things that you could do? And just journal. Start making a list. Start writing it out, don't edit. And it's incredible what you will come up with. And you can then test it on a trial basis for a week or two. And that is how I've identified some of the smallest changes with the largest quality of life outputs imaginables by doing this very, very simple
Starting point is 00:19:46 exercise. And I hate to give so many caveats, but this does not mean that you take your whole life savings and blow it on whiskey and horse. Okay. Just so we're clear, that's not what I'm recommending. And it does mean, however, that you don't, when you've reached a certain level in Maslow's hierarchy of needs, that you don't make decisions based on a survival mindset that has traveled with you from the sort of shelter food basis, if that makes sense. And it's taken me a long time to realize that. But this type of questioning and these types of journaling exercises and overall a focus on effectiveness and not efficiency, I think, are the drivers behind, long story long, how I decide what to do myself or what to delegate. Hey guys, this is Tim again. Just a few more things before you take off. Number one, this is five bullet Friday. Do you want to get a short email from me? Would you enjoy getting a short email from me every Friday that provides a little morsel of fun before the weekend? And five bullet Friday is a very short email where I share the coolest things I've found or that I've been pondering over the week. That could include favorite new albums that I've discovered. It could include gizmos and gadgets and all sorts of
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