The Tim Ferriss Show - #769: Q&A with Tim — Reinvention, Visualization Techniques, Making “Risky” Decisions, Parenting Considerations, Intuition, New Hobbies, Dating, and More
Episode Date: September 20, 2024This past April was the podcast’s 10-year anniversary, and the platform River helped listeners organize parties around the world in more than 180 cities! More than 4,000 people RSVP’d. I ...was able to join about 40 cities via Zoom for quick hellos and drinks (huge thanks to Rae and Ana for the quarterbacking), and I had a blast dropping in on the Paris meetup in person. Thanks to everyone who gathered for wine, celebration, and meeting like-minded people! After all the parties, and as a thank you for their hard work, I invited all of the hosts to a private Q&A. And that’s what you’re about to hear.This episode is brought to you by: Momentous high-quality supplements: https://livemomentous.com/tim (code TIM for 20% off)Shopify global commerce platform, providing tools to start, grow, market, and manage a retail business: https://shopify.com/tim (one-dollar-per-month trial period)LinkedIn Ads, the go-to tool for B2B marketers and advertisers who want to drive brand awareness and generate leads: LinkedIn.com/TFS ($100 LinkedIn ad credit) Timestamps:[00:00] Start [07:08] A focus on reinvention.[07:43] Optimization.[08:30] Recent joy.[09:22] A CØCKPUNCH update.[10:19] How the day’s going so far.[10:55] Argentina affection.[11:51] Intriguing investments.[12:53] Top three snacks.[13:12] AI thoughts.[14:15] Modern dating.[16:32] Self-experimentation to come.[17:42] Analyzing the past decade’s risks.[20:06] Outthinking a career bottleneck.[21:09] My current big project.[22:19] Peptides.[22:37] Be wary of high conviction.[23:06] Preparation for high-stakes presentations.[24:42] Kid stuff?[24:56] Getting the most out of a Tim Ferriss meetup.[26:13] In-person conferences planned?[26:18] IBS relief.[27:03] Personal heresies.[28:26] What makes conferences worthwhile for me?[29:00] Longevity and healthspan.[33:21] Tips for a father-and-son Kumano Kodo walk.[34:49] A barbell distribution approach to life.[35:31] Who would I resurrect for a podcast interview?[36:24] Do I consult any mentors regularly?[36:54] Ayahuasca and antidepressants.[38:16] Incentivizing potential mentors.[39:13] Adventures in babysitting.[40:04] GLP-1 for depression/anxiety.[40:37] Cheap but choice art.[41:05] Finding a book agent.[41:28] Making positive, in-person connections.[41:44] Unmentioned things I’d like to talk about.[43:39] Is there room for the irrational?[45:59] Blogging in the age of AI.[46:39] Binaural beats.[46:56] 4-Hour Dog Training?[47:00] Best $1,000 spent lately.[47:55] Javier Milei.[48:07] Best thing I spent an “assload” on.[48:34] Painting.[48:45] 10-20 minutes on the acupuncture mat.[49:15] Dating apps.[50:15] Favorite sci-fi movies.[51:21] Reflecting on the impact this show has had on others.[52:23] Why was I in Europe for six to eight weeks?[52:31] The mood-altering effects of Q&A.[52:48] Where do I see myself in 30 years?[53:08] Workout routines for older parents.[54:13] How I walk and talk for podcasts.[54:33] Would I consider becoming a single parent?[55:38] A $1 million coffee mug?[56:52] Brazil.[56:59] A small but mighty staff.[57:07] Attracting event attendance.[59:08] Visualization or affirmations?[1:00:20] Today I learned this about Hodinkee.[1:00:26] What would this look like if it were easy?[1:00:32] What I ask show listeners when I meet them.[1:00:50] Eschewing endorsement remorse.[1:01:19] Music I like.[1:01:52] State, story, strategy.[1:01:59] The (not-so) funny thing about interviewing comedians.[1:02:17] Parting thoughts.*For show notes and past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show, please visit tim.blog/podcast.For deals from sponsors of The Tim Ferriss Show, please visit tim.blog/podcast-sponsorsSign up for Tim’s email newsletter (5-Bullet Friday) at tim.blog/friday.For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts.Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books.Follow Tim:Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss Instagram: instagram.com/timferrissYouTube: youtube.com/timferrissFacebook: facebook.com/timferriss LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timferrissPast guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Jamie Foxx, Matthew McConaughey, Esther Perel, Elizabeth Gilbert, Terry Crews, Sia, Yuval Noah Harari, Malcolm Gladwell, Madeleine Albright, Cheryl Strayed, Jim Collins, Mary Karr, Maria Popova, Sam Harris, Michael Phelps, Bob Iger, Edward Norton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Neil Strauss, Ken Burns, Maria Sharapova, Marc Andreessen, Neil Gaiman, Neil de Grasse Tyson, Jocko Willink, Daniel Ek, Kelly Slater, Dr. Peter Attia, Seth Godin, Howard Marks, Dr. Brené Brown, Eric Schmidt, Michael Lewis, Joe Gebbia, Michael Pollan, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Vince Vaughn, Brian Koppelman, Ramit Sethi, Dax Shepard, Tony Robbins, Jim Dethmer, Dan Harris, Ray Dalio, Naval Ravikant, Vitalik Buterin, Elizabeth Lesser, Amanda Palmer, Katie Haun, Sir Richard Branson, Chuck Palahniuk, Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Rick Rubin, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Darren Aronofsky, Margaret Atwood, Mark Zuckerberg, Peter Thiel, Dr. Gabor Maté, Anne Lamott, Sarah Silverman, Dr. Andrew Huberman, and many more.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hello, boys and girls, ladies and germs. This is Tim Ferriss. Welcome to another episode of
The Tim Ferriss Show, where it is usually my job to sit down and interview world-class performers
of all different types to tease out the habits, routines, favorite books, and so on that you can
apply to your own lives. This time, we have a slightly different format, and I happen to be
the guest. Here's some context. This past April was the podcast's 10th anniversary,
and the platform River, which I suggest checking out,
it's very cool, getriver.io, helped listeners around the world organize get-togethers, parties,
in more than 180 cities. More than 4,000 people RSVP'd, and it was one hell of an evening. And
that evening spanned across the world at different times. I was able to join about 40 cities via
Zoom for quick hellos and drinks. So huge able to join about 40 cities via Zoom for quick
hellos and drinks. So huge thanks to Ray and Anna for the amazing quarterbacking. And I had a blast
also surprise dropping in on the Paris meetup in person, which I always like to do if I can,
and I need to get out more. Maybe I'll do more of that. Huge thanks to everyone who gathered for
the wine, the celebration, and most important, meeting like-minded people. A lot of folks who met for the first time at these meetups have stayed in touch and are doing amazing things.
So that makes me happy. And after all the parties and as a thank you for their hard work,
I invited all of the hosts to a private Q&A where they could ask me anything. And that's what you're
about to hear. It covers a lot of ground, a lot of different subjects. I had a great time and I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. But first, just a few quick words from our
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Optimal minimum. At and foremost, thanks everybody.
I really appreciate all the hosting and amazing celebrations and goings on around the world.
It was super fun for me to be part of and to watch and to participate in.
So thank you very much for all of that. And what I thought we would do
is bounce back and forth between these questions here, and I'll do improv jazz as we go through,
and I'll pick some questions, and then we will also do some live questions.
So why don't we start with some live questions?
And then I'll hop in here and I'll answer as many questions as I can that were pre-submitted as well.
All right.
RJ from Malaga, Spain.
Believe it or not, I have some ancestors from Malaga, Spain.
One of them was killed in a bullfight.
So be careful with the bullfights.
All right, here we go. If you had to pick a topic for your podcast that I'd stick to
from now on, topic or theme, would you pick? Probably reinvention of different types. I think
I would focus on people who have reinvented themselves instead of sticking with the tried and true groove. People who have taken
the time or the space or just the attention to step back and re-examine their assumptions,
re-examine the things that have worked up to this point that may not be those things
directionally that they want to continue pursuing. So reinvention, I think. Let's see. Kate and Cody,
how do you think about over-optimization?
Today, many of us have the resources to enable us to spend countless percentage of our life
tweaking and attempting to optimize every little thing. I would say that you want to pick very
carefully what you choose to optimize. As a very dear friend of mine, I won't mention him by name
because you might not like that, but very top 1% of 1% in terms of performer. Put it to me,
he's like, you want to be incredibly excellent, the best you can be in one or two things.
And then for everything else, it's good enough. Passing grade for everything else. And he walks
that walk and he's got a great family. He's a great husband and father he's very good at the things he chooses
to optimize and for the rest he's not worried claudine what has brought me a ton of joy or
fun recently archery i've been doing a lot of archery training i'm not sure if you can see my
forearms they are all screwed up i was shooting both right and left-handed but find that incredibly
joyful and meditative.
Joel, hello Joel, our group had so much in common. It was so fun. Everyone wants to stay connected.
They asked if there might be more opportunities for me to facilitate keeping us connected in the future.
Greatest joy that I got from the parties for the 10th anniversary and so on was how many people came together with some shared interests or curiosities, at least, who then
wanted to hang out after the event, people who wanted to stay connected. That made me super,
super happy. That was really the not-so-secret agenda all along. So that made me really happy,
and I'd like to explore ways that I can facilitate that without having to manage it myself.
All right. Cindy has a question. Cockpunch update,
please. Yes, I have a ton of artwork and a lot of material to share with respect to world building.
And frankly, I've let perfection be the enemy of good. I've wanted to present all this stuff in
this high production value video with all the bells and whistles. And I've been sitting
on this stuff for many months now. And I think that is my perfectionism getting in the way of
simply sharing these things. So I have lots of stuff to share and I need to get on that, I would
say, in the next few weeks. It doesn't need to be fancy. I feel at this point, expediting is more
important than optimizing delivery. All right. I'm looking for questions that I can answer.
Oh God. Worst funniest date I've been on. Yeah. We'll need another live chat to cover that.
Irina, how am I today? I'm doing really well. Beautiful day here. It's a little warm. I don't
handle heat terribly well. I'm going to go shoot arrows after this Q&A and hang out with Molly outside. I'll
have her behind the line of fire. She's a very good archery dog in that way. And a little tired.
I'm not sure why. I might have a fever. I've been training really hard, so who knows? Maybe there's
a bug in the food or something. I've been very tired today. It's unclear why, because I got plenty of sleep. So that's how I am today, but happy to be doing
the Q&A. All right, I'll do a few more, and then I'll hop into the pre-submitted. All right,
this is from Andres. Andy from Buenos Aires. What place does Argentina occupy in my heart today,
and why? Well, I have deep affection for Argentina and the Argies. And I
would like to get back down there, honestly. I recently, for the first time in 20 years, basically,
went to a tango festival in Austin. So I bought new shoes. I didn't even have shoes. I haven't
done tango in ages. And I've forgotten 99% of it, which is very painful for me, but had a blast.
Just had so much fun.
There's nothing like it. So I think at some point it's possible I'll go back to Argentina and do
three to four weeks, full immersion, tons of tango, lots of steak, and probably lots of
malbec at the same time. So I would say I'm very eager to get down there, revisit it,
learn of the current events and leadership in particular in Argentina, which I'm very eager to get down there, revisit it, learn of the current events and leadership
in particular in Argentina, which I find very interesting. And we'll go from there.
What type of business slash investment is the most exciting for me right now?
Anything that is aligned, I'd say, and this isn't an invitation for pitches, but anything that's
really aligned with the ethos that I might be looking to incorporate more in
my life. So for instance, Maui Nui Venison, from an ecological perspective, from a founder
perspective, husband and wife team, incredibly high integrity, beautiful family, beautiful people,
and also very good operators. It's a good business, but it's also doing a lot for
the native ecosystem in Hawaii. So that'd be an example of something that I feel very aligned
with, even though it's not the kind of tech multiples that we would be used to in potential
outcomes. Something I feel very good about, also very involved with quite a bit of climate work,
and let's just call it technology intended to help
with many of the extreme weather and climate challenges that we're going to continue to face.
Let's see here. Top three snacks I'm eating right now. Yeah, I mean, I have Maui Nui right around
the corner. So the Maui Nui venison sticks. And then often it's some type of mixed nuts minus peanuts and let's say
cans of lentils so boring but i find that very helpful there are a number of questions about ai
i would say i largely feel unqualified to have strong opinions about this but if I invest, and I've invested in one or two AI-focused companies, they're very niche, and they have some type of at least intermediate-term defensible mode. data. It's just going to get cloned as soon as it shows any traction. And as some people may
have noticed, a lot of stuff that was Web3, at one point, those people have now pivoted into AI.
And I'm trying to be cautious of anything that is kind of the investment sector du jour.
And there's still interesting things in Web3, although I think blockchain is probably a better
way to put it. And there are very interesting things in AI. But I like to invest in what I know, where I think I have an informational
advantage, and I do not think I have an informational advantage with AI. This is a
question on a few different things. I'll pick two of these. On modern dating, as a public figure,
how do you navigate the complexities of modern dating? I
would say slowly and very carefully. What qualities do I look for in a partner to ensure meaningful
and sustainable relationship? Well, first and foremost, I would say the smaller the social
media footprint, the more comfortable I am, but it also makes it very hard to find people if they're
not online since it's not like I'm going out to bars and just doing cold approaches. So I would say discretion, someone who prefers a certain degree of privacy, those are all indicators
for me in the positive direction for trustworthiness. I recognize a lot of people live
online, so that's just the nature of our current day. But I look for those things. A demonstrated
ability to do hard things over
longer periods of time. I want to know that life isn't always hard for someone. So if they're able
to focus on, let's just say, higher education for four years at a demanding university,
that doesn't automatically make them a super genius who's perfect for me, but it shows
probably they're able to focus on certain things that are challenging for extended periods of time. Same thing if they've been at jobs for at least some jobs for more than one or two years. If it's
constantly lily pad hopping all over the place, I don't find that to always mean someone is very
resilient when things get hard and things always get hard at some point. So those are a few. And then there's
all the stuff you could guess, beautiful, feminine, all that stuff. But I would say those are a few.
Also someone who has an identity where they feel confident in having done hard things. That's the
other benefit of, I would say, people who have done something objectively to the extent that it's possible,
difficult, is they have a certain confidence that helps the whole relationship. I feel like you need
to have a certain identity, confidence in your own abilities and skills and selfhood, self-authoring
before you can really be a good partner. I think that's the case as best I can tell,
but I don't think I'm the last person you would want relationship advice from, but let's wait until
I have it a little more figured out. On self-experimentation, you're known as
using yourself as a guinea pig. What are the next five things I'm planning to experiment with?
I'll probably get back on, like, I don't do as much crazy experimentation as I used to.
I am looking at some regenerative medicine
protocols, possibly for helping inflammation and some of the lower back stuff, which has greatly
improved since I started doing a few things, but the jury is still out, so I'm not going to get
into that yet. I don't want to make any prescriptive recommendations until I've really tested things.
Archery training, a bunch of new types of archery training that I'm excited to play around with. And beyond that, really a lot of it is just putting in the work with things that I believe will be high leverage, like working on hips, internal and external rotation, and a few other things that I think directly contribute to overall core and low back functionality, for lack of a better
way to put it. But nothing crazy, in my opinion. Some of the medical stuff people might think is
crazy, but it's pretty solid research that's backing this stuff, 10 to 20 years of research,
so I don't feel like it's high risk. Let's see. What risks have I taken in the last 10 years that have really paid off?
Are there any that did not pay off? Well, the podcast we could look at as a risk, but
risk for me is a very specific thing. So when people say this is risky, this isn't risky,
I think definitions matter a lot. For me, risk is the potential of an irreversible negative outcome. Very few things fall in that category. So the podcast was very off the beaten path for me, risk is the potential of an irreversible negative outcome. Very few things fall in that
category. So the podcast was very off the beaten path for me, but I didn't view it as risky because
I could always stop doing it. I could always just hit cancel. It was low cost to get started. I
enjoyed the process. So the outcome wasn't the only measure of success for me. And that was quite a divergence that paid off,
certainly paid off. I would say that I've made some good investment calls and I've made some
bad investment calls. So the good ones, fortunately, more than make up for the bad ones.
But with, let's just say Web3 as an example, I went very heavy and hard into a lot of Web3
and put money into a bunch of different funds and various
things. Cockpunch as an NFT project was successful. And I set expectations, I think, properly at the
beginning. If you go back and read that FAQ, I've delivered on all of those and I'm going to deliver
continually beyond that. I have a lot more to share and everyone else has run for the,
not everyone else, but pretty much everyone else has run for the hills and they're like, forget about all that. No, no, forget about all that. Sleep, sleep. They
don't want anybody to remember. I don't mind at all. I took all those proceeds and donated to
the foundation. The foundation, SciSafe Foundation is going to do some amazing work with the,
whatever it ended up being, $2 million or something, maybe a little bit more.
So a lot of good will come of that. And it was a huge
creative catalyst for me. And I think that without that, I wouldn't be working on a new book project
right now, as an example. So it checked all the boxes in terms of its objectives, but as a sector,
I would say, took a lot of huge hits on that one. And you live and learn. I wasn't playing with money.
I couldn't afford to lose, but it was enough that it was very painful. So there's an experiment that
didn't pan out, but there's a reason they call them experiments and not guarantees.
You got to choose your bet sizing properly so you don't put yourself in a bad situation.
All right. So that risks that have paid off. That was from Rebecca.
Andres, currently in a moment
where I don't know what to do professionally.
Have you had those moments?
Yeah, right now.
I'm not sure what I want to be when I grow up.
And some days it's really stressful, to be honest,
which sounds silly, I know, but it is.
I like having a plan.
I like executing to plan.
So the book is really the only
thing that is in my sights at the moment that looks clear. Otherwise, what I'm doing my best
to do is try a lot of little things, little experiments, expose myself to new people,
have a couple of exploratory conversations a week, or read things, listen to things I wouldn't
usually read or listen to, and have confidence because I've figured it out multiple times in
the past that I will figure it out again. I don't need to flog myself unnecessarily. I've yet to
find that helpful. So that may not be super tactical at this point, but that's what I've been telling myself
on my good days when I'm not beating the shit out of myself in my own head.
David, what is your current next project that I'm excited about?
How are you approaching it differently?
So this is, I'd say, the new book.
I'm actually being much more collaborative with this book than I have in the past.
And that's proving to be a godsend because I have people to bounce things off of and to interact with. It's just psychologically, I think, much healthier,
at least at this point in my life, than being a lone wolf on these projects. Because lone wolf,
it's not a thing, by the way. Like, look at nature. No lone wolf survives. It doesn't work.
So I am using that as a broad way to experiment by the way cock bunch was a precursor to that
because i worked really well with what you guys will see soon with the concept art and a lot of
the collaborative writing that was done and it was awesome it was a great process really had fun
it wasn't just locking myself in a cave like i'm in solitary confinement. And that is what I'm
trying to emulate also in the writing of this new book. So we'll see. I mean, I have about
four or 500 pages drafted, so it's going to be another big one.
But you know, that's what I do. We experimented with peptides. I experimented with BMP-157 or BPC-157 like 12 years ago, long time ago. So I
am at a date with peptides, but I did experiment way back in the day. But I really need to educate
myself before I can have any thoughts on that whatsoever. And by the way, just as a quick aside,
with anyone online, if they only have high conviction statements, if they really speak
confidently all the time, be very wary of those people. People who are being honest should say,
I have no fucking idea all the time. Or they should say, you know what? I'm not really sure
I need to educate myself. Everyone online should have that response a lot. If they don't,
then you're not going to be able to separate out the real from the fake because they're saying
everything with the same high level of conviction. Be really careful about that. Okay. What mindfulness practices do I use
to prepare for high stakes presentation or performances? I would say I don't let fear
make me afraid in the sense that I really remind myself, if you weren't nervous,
then it would be a bigger problem. It is normal to be nervous before you go up. Like my hands
are shaking a little bit. I've done these things hundreds of times and I still get nervous. I still
get sweaty. I still drink too much Diet Coke or coffee or whatever beforehand as a ritual,
which just makes me more shaky, obviously. And it's like, it's okay. It's fine. Anyone who's
going out to perform at a high level or attempting to do it at a high level is going to be nervous. So just use it. Mike Tyson puked before he went on stage,
while on stage in the ring. Dean Martin used to puke before he went on stage. I mean,
these are legends, right? I'm not saying you want to emulate everything about them, but
these are people who are at the top of their field. So it's okay for them. It's okay for you.
So I just remind myself of that and I will rehearse my ass off. There's no mental trick
you can do beforehand if you haven't prepared. And for me, the preparation is the mindfulness
practice. I mean, with my TED talk, I rehearsed it so many times into voice memo on my phone,
walking around, I mean, hundreds of times. So by the time I got to the day of the presentation on the main stage at TED,
I was like, well, I've put in the time, the deliberate practice. I've done everything I can do.
So I'm as prepared as I will ever be. So let it rip. Let's see what happens. I'd say that's
the mindfulness practice. I thought about doing content more geared at kids, teens. I thought
about it. I'm not sure what the best venue is, but I am going to be doing some experimentation
for students, probably older students though, kind of university or business school level.
What am I looking to get out of the TF meetups and how can we help? You know, that was a question.
So if some folks have asked like what question came up a lot, some of the questions are just
like, Hey, how's it going? Because the interactions are so short. They're like, Hey,
how's it going? Um, you know, where are you? Where are you? Where do you want to go? And then we'd
run out of time. But one of the questions was like, how can we be helpful to you? And my answer
was, and is now connect with like-minded people do stuff in real life. And this ties into AI. If you want to harness your humanity,
do stuff in real life, like meet people, man, because the poison's coming in terms of information
deluge, it's going to 10x in the next 10 to 18 months. And most minds and habits are not going
to be ready for that. I think it's impossible to be ready, but
to be more resilient, I would just say do more in real life. Connect with like-minded people,
try to do meetups. You can do Zoom or something like that if you can't do
live, but really seek out your tribe. And if those people happen to overlap with the people
who came to the meetups, which was my hope, then great.
Like you just connected with a bunch of people who might be of similar tribe.
So I would say, I would say do that.
All right.
Will I plan any in-person conferences?
I don't have any plans right this moment.
Joel, I see your note on IBS.
I don't have a lot of thoughts on IBS.
I apologize.
I just don't know much about it.
What you could do, and I don't know if this will work, but I mean, you could just use
like Metamucil or Citrus Cell beforehand. I mean, it does slow gastric emptying,
and it does also reduce glycemic index. So if you're going to eat a meal, you know it's going
to spike your glycemic index. Side note, you can take like five of these capsules
with fiber just to slow things down so that the release isn't as intense. But I'm not a doctor.
I try not to pretend to be one on the internet, but I really don't know much about IBS,
unfortunately. But I'm looking at anti-inflammatory protocols that could have an
effect on this type of issue, but I haven't looked at it well enough. So I don't want to
give you any opinions. Let's see. What are some of my heresies? I mean,
I think a heresy that I have is just, I think a lot of what we try to do in modern life is a very
new experiment. So I think if we look back at older societies and they're not all rose-colored,
it's very seductive to look back at indigenous group X, Y, or Z and say,
oh, they had it all figured out. They were in tune with nature. And it's like, well,
if you go back, you also very often even now see domestic abuse and lots of alcoholism,
other issues. So it's not ever perfect anywhere. But I would say if we look at what gives people meaning, I think we've been led astray with a lot of brainwashing and theory that doesn't map very well to anthropological study or really just common behaviors that you see around the world that seem to have some durability.
And Nassim Taleb talks about this a lot. So I would just say broadly thinking that in a lot of ways, individually, just in terms of rugged individualism, we've gone off track a bit. And that a lot of the, I'd say, common ways that we plan our careers and lives are actually at odds with ultimately what's going to give us fulfillment, I would say. I can unpack that more another time. All right, let's see. So a couple of people asking about
conferences. Maybe, maybe at some point I'll do a conference. It would be quite small. It wouldn't
be more than 200 people. So if I ever did it, it's a lot of work, frankly. And when I did it last
time, it was basically not for profit because I spent so much money on the quality of the event.
So I don't know.
I'm not sure I have the energy to do it as a non-profit.
And if it were not to be a non-profit, it would just be stupidly expensive.
It would be like 30 grand a person or something obscene, which I would feel kind of silly
putting out there.
How realistic is it to consider the health span possibility, RJ, to get to 150 years
old in good health? I'm not really sure how to evaluate this, to be honest. I'm more focused
these days on experiential lifespan and trying to harness, and I've spoken about this before,
but trying to organize events, gatherings of friends, in some cases, very intense physical
experiences like long, difficult hikes or
pilgrimage trails with people I really care for to basically pack a few months into, say, a week
at a time. I think that's a reliable, actionable way to extend your experiential lifespan,
to feel like you've basically packed 150 years into your, let's say,
85. Most attempts at extending longevity in any meaningful way have all failed to date, right?
And maybe we are, in fact, at this cusp of all these amazing discoveries that will lead us to
live a really long time. Maybe that's rapamycin. Maybe that's some type of time-restricted feeding.
Maybe that is folistatin. Maybe it's who the fuck knows. There's always something. There's always some new
Ponce de Leon fountain of youth that people have found, especially on the internet.
I'm not super bullish on that stuff. Here's the thing I would say for myself. They're likely to
fail. So I would rather have low expectations and be
pleasantly surprised later than to take all of these things and suffer what will most definitely
be significant side effects that we haven't foreseen with a lot of this new stuff.
So like Falstatt, for instance, basically cripples FSH in animal models. So it's like,
do you really want to be infertile?
Can you reverse that after the fact?
Like, yeah, great.
You have eight pack and you look younger than you did eight weeks ago, but now your balls don't work.
So I'm not ready to make that trade.
Maybe after I have three or four kids, sure.
But I would just be very careful with that kind of stuff.
So 150, I mean, if we're talking about that in the next, basically putting people on a
glide path that will land them there in the next 10 to 15 years, I'm pretty skeptical.
I mean, especially with increases in environmental toxins and other issues that will besiege
humanity over the next 10 to 20 years, certainly.
I mean, more weather issues, forced migrations, all sorts of shit.
I'm not dystopian about it, but it should
tell you something about my personal beliefs, at least, that I'm not doing a lot of that stuff.
Yeah. I mean, if you account for infant mortality and antibiotics, and then you look at, say,
my entire family history on both sides, it's like, yeah, males tend to die around 85.
That's just the way it goes. So I would love to live longer, but I'm not going to take a lot of
unnecessary risks where I see significant potential downside. So long answer. I'm
interested in it for sure. Like I track some of the science.
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All right, Andy Bruce, any tips on walking the Kumano Kodo, taking your 11-year-old son with
you? That's cool. That's fun. There are a million different ways to walk this pilgrimage trail in
Japan, which is the sister trail of the Camino de Santiago in Europe. Those are the only two
world heritage pilgrimage trails. So there are like a thousand different ways you can do the Kumonokodo. It's
like tributaries that then filter down to the main shrine and temple because they basically
took like Shinto mapping and then put Buddhism on top of it. I would pick one that crosses
rivers and water if you can. That's just a really pleasant feature when you're hauling ass and getting really sweaty
and so on. Bring walking sticks for sure, like poles, especially for the downhill. You'll be
walking on rock a lot. It's very hard on the joints. So nice thick heels, Hoka shoes or
something like that. I would suggest you will feel it in your ankles and your knees.
My thought is if you're going to do something longer,
because some people will do like a week at a time or 10 days at a time,
you could spend months on the Kuenlo Kodo,
is do a little bit less than you think you can each day.
Like don't push it super hard because you may be then handicapped the next day.
If your knee really bothers you,
you're not going to want to put a lot of weight on that for
the next 10 kilometers or 20 kilometers, right? So I do a little bit less than you think you can each day.
All right. Something about the tweet, if the kettlebell swings is king of the exercise,
where else can you find the king of X? Could your relationships finance anything? I think a lot about
barbell approaches to life. So for instance, high-risk angel investing and then muni bonds,
as boring and as stable as you get, right? So it's kind of one or the other, like high-risk angel investing and then muni bonds, as boring and as stable as you get. So it's kind of one or the other, high-risk, high-return with small amounts of money or very stable, predictable,da, and then you, at least in my experience, that's how you get your face ripped off, or that's how I get my face ripped off. So I think about barbell distributions a lot
in physical fitness and finance and everywhere. Okay, aside from Richard Feynman, if I could
bring back one person from the Dead for a podcast episode, who would it be? Oh man, there's so many,
right? I'm tempted to say like Marcus Aurelius or something, but Seneca, who knows? I mean,
probably Seneca because I've just read so much of his stuff and I'm curious if I would find the guy
to be an arrogant prick or what the vibe would be in person, right? Assuming we're speaking the
same language. I would be super curious about Seneca. He gets very mixed reviews, but I mean,
I'm once again listening to an audio book on anger or on Ida, I-R-A. I mean, his writing's amazing. The guy's
writing is amazing. But what would he be like in person? Would I be like, oh yeah, this is the
uncle who talks too much. God, this guy's long-winded. Maybe. Ben Franklin, I'd be interested,
very interested in. Those are a few that come to mind. I mean, I could come up with a hundred more
for sure, but those are two off the top of my head. Do I have any mentors that I contact regularly for life advice? This is from
Jeff. I found at midlife that I really missed out on having fatherly mentors in my twenties and
thirties. Yeah, there are. I talked to one this morning. In fact, he's early seventies, very
healthy, really takes care of himself. Great marriage, close to his kids. And I think he has
grandkids now. So we did a check-in
for about an hour today, caught up. And this is a good reminder for me to do that more often.
So I do feel good about that. Let's see. Paula, this is one of my thoughts on ayahuasca and
antidepressants. You've been doing ayahuasca for 13 years, only just started taking antidepressants.
Unsure if I should mix both. This is from Brazil.
You need to be very, very, very careful.
So ayahuasca plus certain antidepressants like SSRIs can cause a potentially fatal serotonin syndrome.
So you need to be very, very, very careful with that.
So I would absolutely speak with doctors about that.
I would not mix them until you get the go-ahead from doctors.
And I imagine a psychiatrist who prescribed the antidepressants, I'd be very careful with
that.
Ayahuasca is one of the riskier compounds, at least of the, let's call it classically
known psychedelics, with respect to combining with antidepressants.
I'd be very careful with that.
And side note, I learned not too long ago that people who are taking lithium should
really not screw
around with psychedelics. A lot of adverse events have been reported, at least with some of the
classical, let's just call it, not entirely tryptamine, but LSD, psilocybin, etc. So if
you're taking higher doses of lithium now, there are some ways that could be conflated because if
people are taking lithium, what are they taking it for? They might be taking it for any number of conditions that would be
contraindicated with psychedelics in the first place. So who knows? But I wouldn't mix lithium
with these things either. All right. How can you incentivize someone to mentor you?
I'm not sure how to do that. I think you need to be a really good student. Number one,
you said no money possible. I mean, frankly, I pay for it a lot. I think you need to be a really good student. Number one, he said no money possible.
I mean, frankly, I pay for it a lot. I mean, I have friends who learn from me and I learn from them and they're older than I am and I consider them mentors. But at the end of the day, I actually
find it in some ways cleaner to just pay someone. And if you wanted to get mentorship that isn't
expensive, like maybe you go to Toastmasters or you join the EO, like Entrepreneurs Organization or YPO, it depends on what you're looking
for.
But mentors don't need to be expensive at all.
I have a mentor in archery and he's also kind of a mental performance coach, doesn't need
to break the bank.
So I would say, you can go to your local YMCA and find a coach in some sport.
And if they're good at all,
at anything, they will have life lessons for you, especially if they're a bit older. I would say
that's my advice for the moment. Do I babysit sometimes for some of my friends? Yeah, I mean,
I don't really babysit, but I'll watch their kids for a little bit or watch a Disney movie with
their kids, young kids. How did I find it? I think I'm a kid at heart.
So for me, animals and kids are, I don't want to say easy, but especially if they're little,
I find them pretty easy. I think if I have kids, which is the hope at least,
if they get to the point where they're petulant, kind of mean-spirited
kids where they're just being assholes, I think I'll have a hard
time with that. I think I will have a hard time once they know which buttons they're pushing and
they're just like, hmm, drilling it in. That I'm going to have trouble with. But little kids who
are dysregulated and lose their shit because they haven't developed their prefrontal cortex,
I can deal with that pretty well. Let's see.
My opinion of, this is from Judy, GLP-1 medications. This would be like Munjaro or Ozempic GLP-1 agonists. I believe they're in clinical trials now for depression slash anxiety.
Yeah, I haven't looked at them specifically for that. I did put up a blog post recently
from Johan Hari on GLP-1 specifically.
So if you want to get some of the science and also a firsthand report of that, I would just
go on Tim.blog and search Johan, J-O-H-A-N-N, last name Hari, H-A-R-I. All right. So this piece of
artwork, people love this. I love it too. I bought this for $80 at an antique warehouse in the middle of
nowhere. I saw it and I just loved it and grabbed it. I love it every time I see it.
Maybe it's less, 60, 60 bucks, 80 bucks at an antique warehouse. Yeah, it's one of my favorite
pieces of art. That's a turkey tail below it. There are a lot of turkeys around here. Or not tail, turkey feather. All right. For agents, book agents and stuff, last time I checked,
which was a long time ago, Publishers Marketplace is a great place to look.
Also find books that are kind of in the same category or vein as yours. Look at the
acknowledgements and you'll very often see the agent there. Then you can reach out to them
directly through something like Publishers Marketplace, or these days, a lot of these agents or agencies have their own websites.
Thoughts on how to approach making some great in-person connections? Yeah, I would look at my
talk. I gave it South by Southwest, which had the title, How to Build a World-Class Network in
Record Time, something clickbaity like that, but it actually delivers. I would check that out.
All right, this is from Dolan. Dolan. Okay okay the last set was from claude dean thank you for those this one's
from dolan if i'm pronouncing that correctly basically anything that i would like to talk
about that i haven't had an opportunity to talk about yet for instance my interest slash journey
and connecting with animals and nature maybe some insights for my personal exploration of psychedelic
and non-ordinary states of consciousness over the last 10 years. So I have probably a thousand pages of notes
on all this. And at some point, I feel like that might be the most important book that I write,
but it's going to be a lot to put it together. So in a way, the book I'm doing now where I'm
collaborating is sort of a possible warm-up for that. Because I don't think it's a book that I would want to do by myself. It would just be such a heavy lift. And yeah,
we'll see. We shall see. But I think if I talk about that at some huge length,
it'll probably be in a book. I'd want to think about it because it'll get so strange. It will
get so unbelievably strange. Number one, first, all the scientific regulatory
on-the-radar, above-the-line logistical stuff that I want to handle in the psychedelic therapeutics
world, I want to handle first. Because if I ever write this book, it is going to get so weird that
at least 20% of the people who read it are going to think I'm completely insane.
It'll just be so strange. I wouldn't want it to damage my current credibility that I have to get things done in those worlds, including some of the stuff with animals, man. If you talk to people
who've been in this stuff for, let's just say culturally, for hundreds or thousands of years,
it's not weird. But to most folks, it's going to sound pretty fucking weird, which I get excited about. But
I'm going to wait until I'm like, you know what? I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks because
it's not going to interrupt anything else that I'm doing. I don't care. Then maybe that book,
but it's going to be a little while. All right. This is from Andres. I'll paraphrase here.
Basically, I'm very rational and methodical
about decision-making and so on. Rational approach is admirable, but sometimes being
irrational or spontaneous can inject a lot of energy and fun. Have I found space for
rationality to play a role in my life, the irrational and emotional, for decisions? And
if so, have they ever led me to alter my well-thought-out plans for the year?
So I would say yes. I don't know if irrational would be the word I would use because you have,
let's take moral. I don't know what the proper word would be here, but you have
moral behaviors, you have immoral behaviors, and let's just call those non-moral behaviors.
Then you have amoral behaviors that are in this no-man's
land. So I would say if you have rational, irrational, the opposite, then there's irrational.
I don't think that's a word, but somewhere in the middle where it's not driven by logic,
it's driven more by feeling. I'm doing more and more of that these days, for sure. I mean, our sort of evolved system here with lots of valuable apparatus for navigating
reality predates language by at least this kind of language by millions of years. So yes, I found
space for that. Although I'd be very careful about, I see this quite a bit in Austin and places like
it, where there's this like neo,
new agey stuff where people are like, I'm just using my intuition. And I think very often that
is used by people who just want a justification for doing what they want to do or doing something
that is easier than the hard thing. And they're like, well, I'm just using my intuition, right?
Intuition is interesting to me when it points you in a direction you didn't
expect. Let's just say you go on a date and on paper, they're perfect. You're like, I'm going
to love this person. And then you meet them and you're like, something's a little weird here.
Like I want to like them, but this isn't right. That's where intuition is valuable or like a
business deal. Everything looks perfect. And then there's something about it. Like, oh, my gut just
doesn't feel right. That's where intuition is interesting. If you're like, this all looks
perfect on paper. And you know what? Even though all my friends are telling me it's a terrible
investment, my intuition tells me to do it. That's where I'd be like, well, wait a minute here.
Is this just confirmation bias? What are my thoughts on blogging in the age of AI? I mean,
look, AI is amazing.
It's really incredible.
But writing for me is a way of clarifying my own thinking.
And I do think that taking the time to craft words without the assistance of AI is helpful.
I might use AI to get past the blank page, but I think it's seductive as a drug.
And just like most people can't tell direction without google maps now i think it's very possible
almost inevitable that people will lose certain faculties that they currently have by overusing
ai so we shall see but i plan on doing more writing to the old-fashioned way i have not
used binaural beats i am very very interested in that. And actually,
it just reminded me, somebody owes me something on binaural beats.
So if you have any recommendations for what types of binaural beats, let me know. Let's see.
For our dog training. Yeah, maybe. Never say never. Best thousand dollars I spent lately.
I mean, it was more than than that but on the archery training
it's always something like that it's very rarely stuff i mean sometimes it's stuff like there's a
i bought an extra so right pso rite and a mini rumble roller that i can travel with
and those have been amazing for just like rolling out my glutes and piriformis
and my legs and stuff before bed really helps with sleep a lot. But that's like, I don't know,
a hundred bucks, 150. I buy very, well, I try to buy very little stuff. Just ends up causing me
more stress as clutter around my house than the value that adds. So I try to get rid of a lot of stuff. Good question. It was the last thousand dollars
worth of clutter that gave me the most relief when I gave it away. That's what I should think about.
Am I aware of Javier Mile? I think that's how you say his name in Argentina. I am. I've actually
listened to some of his speeches. Pretty interesting stuff. I don't know enough about
him, but a number of my friends are big fans.
So I need to do more research.
Best thing that I spent an ass load on.
What's the best thing I spent an ass load on?
Not to get too technical.
Would be a family trip.
I took my parents and brother and his wife
on a trip around Europe.
And that was definitely an ass load of cash.
But I think that was a good investment. I'd recommend everyone read something called The Tail End by Tim Urban. That is a good investment of time. It's very short. I would like to dabble in, ideally, watercolor, I think. But do I have any quick tips for getting up to 10 to 20 minutes on the acupuncture mat?
Yeah, that's for people who are curious.
The Nyoya Acupressure Mat, I think.
Or other.
There are a lot of invitations that I'm sure are just as good.
I don't go to 20 minutes typically, but like 10 to 15 if I'm going to do it. The first
three minutes are going to be torture. So you just have to get through the first three to four
minutes is my experience. Otherwise, I don't have much to tell you. It can be pretty intense.
Thoughts on dating apps. Oh man, this is like Warren Buffett covering his eyes and pointing
towards Wall Street because half the people
are going to have terrible experiences.
I don't know, to be frank.
I mean, I think Hinge has been
one of the better options so far.
I think that in terms of just quality,
people have to pass some hurdles
and add some information.
The League is pretty interesting also
because you can search by interest,
which is so critical.
I don't know why you can't do it on any other app, but you can search for like skiing or whatever to find
somebody who has similar interests. But the league is really only effective in certain cities. It's
not used widely everywhere, but like in a place like New York city or LA or whatever, you could
find people who are pretty well educated, interesting, but a downside is people tend
not to use it that frequently. So you might have a
great match and they don't see your message for six months. So go figure. It's a jungle out there,
folks. Be careful. And there are a lot of people catfishing. So watch out for that too. Do a video
call before you meet up with someone. What's my favorite science fiction movie and why? Big fan
of the second Dune movie, frankly. Ex-Bachina, I remember really enjoying.
There are a lot of great science fiction movies. I think Her was fantastic. At the time, it seemed
insane, and it's basically already there. If you look at the latest editions of ChatGPT and so on,
things like Replica with a K. Replica. Yeah, Her is basically already here. It's pretty nuts. Give me a second. Taking a note.
Thank you for the binaural thing. Brainwave, smart mind. Okay, I'll check it out. With questions
about Cockpunch, it'll be more interesting once I release the rest of the stuff or a bunch of it.
Then you'll have a lot more to chew on. And I'll give you a foreshadowing. It's not really
a foreshadowing. It is a statement that I hope is
a statement of fact, and that is I will have some fan fiction writing competitions, like elimination
competitions. And so that will reward people who really dig into the details.
They'll also have to be decent at writing, of course. Claudine, have I let the enormity of
10 years of TFS really land, not just from a metrics pov but
from a positive kindness deepening etc human level it's been such a force for good enlighten this
world thank you claudine that's very kind of you to say i would say that i did when the celebrations
were happening but i could do a better job i could do a better job of sitting with that. So thank you
for the reminder. It's easy for me to just move on like, yeah, yeah, good job, but you just did
your job, so don't get too happy with yourself. And like, what's next? What's next? Yeah, you did
your job, and that's fine, but don't get too smug about it or self-satisfied. But I find that can be
very self-defeating. So I did take time to celebrate for the 10th anniversary.
I had a great time.
The in-person meetup in Paris was great.
And it was really fun to in-person hear the stories from people who were deeply affected
by the podcast.
So thank you for the reminder.
I will take a moment today to revisit that.
Thank you.
I should travel to meet girls. Well, I mean,
why was I in Europe for six to eight weeks? Who knows? Maybe it was related to that.
Is it possible that my mood improved during this Q&A? Yeah, it's entirely possible. I was exhausted,
guys. I'm not going to lie at the beginning of this, but I enjoy these interactions. So it is
certainly possible that my mood improved as a function of my energy going
up. So thanks for that, everybody. Where do I see myself in 30 years? Good Lord. I don't know.
Hopefully not six feet under. We'll see. I'll be 30 years. I'll be 40. No, 76, 77. Fuck.
So I don't know. Hopefully I'll be doing black diamond skiing because we found the
fountain of youth. Have you suggested workout routines as mags for my parents? If not, what
would it potentially look like? How would you approach it? Yep. I would say super slow protocol.
Look up Ken Hutchins and the super slow protocol. And yeah, my dad's lost, I don't know, 80 pounds,
like let's call it 40 kilos in the last year.
So he's made a lot of progress. That's slow carb diet. It's all straightforward from for our body
and then super slow as applied. So super slow in the very basic terms is minimum five seconds up,
five seconds down. So if you're doing a pressing movement, five seconds slow, right? Up five seconds down,
one set to concentric failure. Could be even slower. Could be 10 seconds up, 10 seconds down.
But especially in elderly, quite effective for building muscle mass and increasing bone density
without injury. So that is probably what I would, I mean, that's what I've prescribed to my parents.
That plus walking to the extent that it's possible, right?
Kind of barbell.
Once again, with slow carb diet is the glue that holds everything together.
How do I record a podcast while walking?
This right here.
This is ATH-M50X.
It's an Audio-Technica headset.
It has a USB-C attachment. Plug that into your iPhone,
and then you can use Riverside or some other app. There are a lot of different ways to record.
All right, let's see here. This is from Mariana. Over the years, I've followed and learned from you and your guests. I've heard you say several times that I'm interested in parenting. Have you
ever considered being a single parent family by choice? I,, for many years, was trying to find the perfect partner
until I turned 41. And my doctor told me it was time to unfreeze my eggs since I was still single
and look for the partner, decided my best option is to be a single parent. So I got a non-anonymous
donor and had my son when I was 43. I'm almost six now. We travel the world together. Could not
be happier with the drama-free life we have. Just wishing to see you fulfill your parenting
dream and wondered if I would consider this option too. Yeah, I would consider it. I would consider it. You know, I think for a long time,
it was no, but I would consider it. I would. I mean, of course, ideally I would have the partner,
but I would consider it. Yeah, it's not off the table, but I'm still fighting the good fight,
getting back into the dating as much as I'm just like, fuck, this is a young man's game doing this
online dating bullshit. Frankly, just the communications burden is so much. Oh yeah.
So anyway, but to answer your question, yeah, it's on the table for me. Joel, I see yours.
One of my big goals is to create the world's first coffee mug to sell for more than a million dollars. I like that. I like that as a goal. I don't really have a great recommendation for how
to chip away at it. You could look at, from a PR perspective at least, people who have sold pieces
of the Brooklyn Bridge or sold hamburgers that are gold-plated or have some type of gold on them
for $300 at some pizza joint.
And the reason they're doing it is to get attention for everything else.
So what I would say is you could think about selling a million-dollar coffee mug and make
that your pass-fail, or you could come up with a compelling argument for why a coffee
mug, a particular coffee mug, should sell for a million dollars, and then use
that as a PR hook to bring attention to everything else that you're doing, which is probably quite a
bit easier. But if you do that and someone buys it, great. Fantastic. You did it. You sold one
for a million bucks. Now, that said, if that is the only measure of pass-fail, then it's extremely binary. But if
you were to use it as a means by which you draw attention to everything else you're doing, then
I think it's pretty interesting. So there you have it. Have I been to Brazil? Yes, I've been to Brazil
five or six or seven times, actually. All over the place, in fact. How big is my staff? Pretty small.
A few people? Two, three people, four. Yeah, something like that.
Three or four, I guess at this point.
It's from Hussain in Toronto.
After the 10th anniversary,
I tried to organize a follow-up meeting.
However, I had to cancel due to little interest.
I'll try again at the end of the summer.
Can you think of a cost-effective,
Tim Ferriss way to make attendance
at these events irresistible?
Well, you might consider,
I'm just making this up.
So this is on the fly,
but you might consider partnering with another organization like EO or YPO or whoever, who might be looking for membership.
And you could say, you know, I'd love to host this type of events for fans of Tim Ferriss or however you want to phrase it, listeners of the Tim Ferriss Show or readers of such and such book.
And perhaps we can do an event where they come for free,
get exposed to these following speakers. I think having speakers would be helpful.
So you could try to do that on your own, or you could make it more of an event,
some type of activity. So you could do, I don't know, Tim Ferriss show paintball extravaganza,
get 10 people to go do paintball or something.
Who knows, right? You have to make it, what are they considering as alternatives? It's kind of like with Molly, let's just say. My dog Molly, I remember at one point I was working with this dog
trainer and she saw me giving kibble to Molly as the treat, just her regular dog food, but in little
pieces. And she goes, what is that? And I was like, oh, it's kibble. She's like, oh man. She's like, you're not going to train your dog that way.
She said, it's a crowded bar. You got to tip with 20s. She's like, you're giving her bullshit.
You have to have really good treats. You have to tip with 20s. It's a crowded bar,
to compete with the squirrels and the dogs and the other stuff, the smells.
So I would say those are a few ideas, but if you have a small group of friends, you can just
take their temperature with a couple of different options and see how it goes, right? I mean,
those are a few initial thoughts, but maybe helpful, maybe not. All right. I think those
are the only ones that I can really answer well from the pre-submitted questions. I'm going to take a look at a few things that are left here timothy keen this is
visualization or affirmations i haven't used affirmations much to be honest i don't think
actually it's not true with five minute journal and things like that it's kind of these statements
like i am or whatever i'll also frequently have something like, you have plenty of time or
there's plenty of time, right? So that I don't feel artificially rushed, which never produces
great results or great feelings for that matter. Or something like, frankly, this is true for a
lot of people on this Q&A, right? Like you've already won the game. You speak English, you
have a computer, hopefully you're healthy. Like you've already won the game so just number one
like take a breath realize there's no game on some level left to win like you've already done it
you've already crossed the finish line so everything else is gravy so just like take a
chill pill and breathe and then for visualization you know i use that mostly with athletic stuff
sometimes if i'm gonna get it on stage for like a speaking engagement i'll visualize how it's
gonna go or i'll run through it visually, just like I have a VR headset on.
I'll close my eyes. I'm very visual, so I'll imagine the whole thing, walking out, sitting
in the right chair, looking at the audience, how I'm going to hold the mic, et cetera.
And I'll run through some of that as rehearsal. Let's say those are what come to mind. Yeah,
check names. I didn't realize that Houdy was Czech for watches. That's hilarious.
Yeah, what would this look like if it were easy, Cindy? Question that I still ask myself all the time. What do I like to ask my Victoria, ask my fans when I meet them? I ask who they would like
to hear on the podcast. If they can only pick one or two guests and they can't say Elon Musk or some
huge name. No huge names allowed. Who would you like to have on the podcast? That's a question I ask.
And I actually have had a lot of those answers translate to guests on the podcast.
Randy, if we did a fan meetup, would you endorse it or say it's okay?
I mean, this is where I have to be careful about taking on too much responsibility with
these things.
So probably not, because if I did that, then anyone who's ever hosting a meetup would come
to me for the same thing.
And it would just create a huge comms problem for me and my team. So I'd probably
need to be hands off. To have a fan meetup, I don't think you need my permission. You know,
if you're turning into like some crazy business, then using my name, then it turns into a separate
thing. But do I like electronic music? Yes, I do. I mean, I'm pretty old school. I mean,
I listen to Shingo Nakamura quite a bit for like chill mixes.
Deadmau5, pretty old school.
But I wrote For Our Body to a continuous mix, like a three-hour set of Deadmau5.
There's all sorts of stuff.
But it's usually something that's going to give me a fair amount of energy.
I listen to like lo-fi beats type stuff when writing sometimes if I need something a little down-tempo
for God knows where. I listen to a lot of heavy, heavy metal when I'm writing, oddly enough.
State story strategy. Yeah, I still use state story strategy. People can look that up. I got
that from Tony Robbins. I would consider having more comedians on the podcast, but
I feel like other people do a better job, honestly. Like Rogan, there's so many comedy podcasts out there. I want to differentiate myself
in some way that feels authentic to me, category of one kind of stuff. But yes, Austin is now a
comedy center. It's pretty wild. All right, you guys, I think that's me for now. I'm going to
get outside and shoot some arrows. And I really appreciate everyone's time. Thank you for
the hosting, first and foremost.
So awesome. So fun to see
all of these events around the world.
And would love people to
stay in touch with anyone they met at those events
or look to
explore. Explore. See what
we can learn from each other.
It doesn't have to be limited to anything I talk about.
Just find people who have,
who are philosophically values aligned
and see what you can learn from each other.
Go for some bike rides or something.
It doesn't have to be coffee and wine.
Get out and do something, right?
Try something new together.
Anyway, that would be my wish for you all.
And I really appreciate everybody being so engaged.
And I hope you have a wonderful week.
And to be continued.
Maybe we'll do some more meetups.
All right, you guys.
Thanks, everybody.
Bye.
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