The Tim Ferriss Show - #858: The Random Show, Couch Edition! — Supplements, Hummingbirds, Cock Rings, Optimizing Mitochondria, Breathing and Balance Training, Cool Grip Strength Tools, and More

Episode Date: March 18, 2026

Welcome to another wide-ranging "Random Show" episode that I recorded with my close friend Kevin Rose (digg.com)!This episode is brought to you by:Eight Sleep Pod Cover 5 sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating: EightSleep.com/TimAG1 all-in-one nutritional supplement: DrinkAG1.com/TimCresset family office services for CEOs, founders, and entrepreneurs: CressetCapital.com/TimTimestamps:[00:00:00] A meditative start.[00:02:19] Reflecting on our second Zen retreat in Santa Fe with Henry Shukman.[00:04:08] Ketone liver warnings and eggplant allergies: The perils of raiding Kevin’s fridge.[00:08:06] “Just be still” — three simple words that miraculously shut down my OCD.[00:13:54] Is meditation secretly vagus nerve stimulation?[00:20:17] DIY vagus nerve stim for $25 vs. Kevin’s $900 ear clip.[00:24:57] HeartMath and watching your HRV move in real time.[00:27:57] Marching toward 50: balance boards and the end of jiu-jitsu.[00:31:26] Tony Hawk snowboarding Hokkaido with screws in his hip.[00:33:01] Slacklining and why your nervous system needs sleep cycles.[00:35:19] Bertolotti’s Syndrome: My six-year back pain gets a name.[00:37:09] The nerve block test: everything wrong, zero pain.[00:44:10] Abrahangs tendon protocol: 10 seconds on, 50 off.[00:46:24] The NUG: a pocket hangboard for travelers.[00:48:31] Craig Mod’s Japanese toothbrush and Toaster’s cameo.[00:50:45] Kevin’s $92 vintage fire jacket: Blue Heritage Japan.[00:54:26] Podcast picks: The Power Broker and STEM Talk.[00:56:20] Alzheimer’s: A plaque or mitochondrial problem?[00:57:30] 10 grams of ketones turns one-word answers into sentences.[00:58:40] Methylene blue on Amazon: 120 years of research, zero guardrails.[01:02:36] Bredesen Protocol, APOE genotyping, and a cognitive comeback.[01:05:32] Photobiomodulation: $30k laser to the forehead.[01:07:55] Urolithin A and the high price of mitochondrial upkeep.[01:14:56] Recipe for disaster pants: espresso + creatine + MCT oil.[01:17:39] Norwegian 4×4 training and lactate as a brain lever.[01:23:15] Blood flow restriction bands and schwantz ring koans.[01:29:08] Hummingbirds named Sunset and squirrel obstacle courses.[01:32:06] Parting thoughts.*For show notes and past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show, please visit tim.blog/podcast.For deals from sponsors of The Tim Ferriss Show, please visit tim.blog/podcast-sponsorsSign up for Tim’s email newsletter (5-Bullet Friday) at tim.blog/friday.For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts.Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books.Follow Tim:Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss Instagram: instagram.com/timferrissYouTube: youtube.com/timferrissFacebook: facebook.com/timferriss LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timferrissSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Optimal minimal. At this altitude, I can run flat out for a half mile before my hands start shaking. Can I answer your personal question? Now we'll have seen an appropriate time. What if I did the algorithm? I'm a cybernetic organism, living tissue over metal and those calories. Me, Tim Ferriss Show. Okay, wait, wait.

So we're rolling? Yeah, we're rolling. Okay. Three, two, one. Feels actually really good. I feel like my bowl is a little smaller than you. That's the time's for the case. You want to kick it off?

Hello, friends and family, colleagues. That was amazing. Very prominent ejaculation. Welcome to the random show. Welcome, folks. To another episode of the random show. Couch Audition Edition. That's right.

ADU back of my place edition. Why do we have these fancy balls? So this is for people not looking. These are meditation balls. Yeah. Got a bunch of script. presumably that's Tibetan or Sanskrit or something. And you have a little corner, but that's not the bad corner.

That's the Zen corner. Yeah, that's the Zen corner. Would you say bad corner? Yeah, you know, you pick kids in the bad corner? Did you use that as a kid? In school, I got sent to, like, the bad table all the time. Oh, there was a table. Oh, yeah.

And then the teacher in kindergarten sent me to the bad table with a bunch of other kids who were really bad, and then forgot that she had decided it was the bad table and just left us at the bad table for, like, the entire year. It might explain a lot of a second. logical issues that I've carried with me. This is not the bad table. This is the meditation area. And I have bowls over here that I just like the sound of a good, I mean, you heard that.

Hopefully it came through and didn't distort the mic. But a well-wrung bowl, it sets the tone for the beginning of the meditation, then also at the very end. It's also just perfect for a podcast in Southern California. Yeah, exactly. Nice to be in person. It's well in the whole, yeah, so-count environment. There's bowls per capita out here and crystal shops are very high.

High density, high density, man. Yeah. Another beautiful day. I'm so cool. Beautiful day. Been doing a lot of walk in. Where should we start off? We got tons.

We just came back from our retreat. We did. We did. You want to describe the format? Yeah, so we've done a couple of these retreats. This is the second one where it's just a small group of people that are interested in meditation and that want to go a little bit deeper in the world of Z. Zen.

You know, you know, I both talked about the way and Henry Shookman a ton, the way being his app. And Henry's just a great leader, great Zen Master, and it was accompanied by Valerie, another Zen Master. This is a mountain cloud. A mountain cloud Zen Center. San Jose, New Mexico. Yeah.

So we flew out there, small group, got together, and it's kind of like if a proper Zen retreat is like 5.30 cushion in the morning, and then you're off at 7 p.m. and it's hardcore, like no talking, shitty food, this was not bad. Like this was, we had a good chef that was there

and we were allowed to ask questions in between sits. The sits were purposely kind of time bound to call it maximum of 25 minutes and then a walking meditation than another 25 minutes that was like kind of the max. Yeah, let me interject just so we don't get into hyper-bushy territory too fast. So the chef was not our chef.

He's actually, as I remember, this is a former, I think James Beard Award winner who decided to forego the accolades and the attention. How is that less bougie than what I was going to say? Well, you said we had a nice chef, and people might assume that we're like bringing in a chef. This is a chef who actually lives. He lives at the Zen Center and has chosen a life of simplicity working with local ingredients and stuff. Yeah.

And he is also normally there. It's not like we had our own dedicated chef. That's right. That's right. That's what to make this. That's not in my house. I eat venison jerky sticks most of the time. Lentil is out of a can still.

And you chugged my freaking ketones about five minutes ago. Tim just goes to my fridge and he's like, okay, what are you up to you? I want to see what Kevin's up to. I want to see the evidence. He's like, okay, we got a little semi-glutide in here. We got some repath of. And he's like, oh, ketones. And he starts chugging my ketone esters.

Well, yeah, I unwrapped you. And I was like, I probably should ask if I can drink this. but I'm guessing this has been in there for weeks. Dude, I don't, that stuff that you drank is like, so they make several versions of that. That's like the full-on F-16 isn't the latest fighter jet. Whatever the Gen 5 fighter jet is F-22. It's the most, it's the highest intensity.

This is the Delta G brand ketone mono ester, which is BHB, which is kind of what you want, bound with something called 1-3 butane dial, which I will say, if you see that on the ingredient list of your supplement, for exogenous ketones, treat it like a shot of tequila. You really want to use it in moderation. There's mounting evidence that it's pretty unhealthy for your liver.

So just using moderation in terms of ketones supplementation. But hey, right before a podcast. By the way, it's a great time for me to take like 15 grams. I will not do 30 because, and I talked to, she'll probably come up again. Our mutual friend, Dr. Rhonda Patrick, about this. I don't think I'm talking out of school here. But when you take, when I take, and this is true for her as well, and I suspect other people, the full 30, like the entire shot, rather than decreasing anxiety, it actually, for me, spikes it. And I think that could be related to a very rapid rise and then trough. Right. Afterwards. But who knows. The point is, keep it moderate. You're the first person to tell me that it impacts liver function. And I have more often than not had elevated liver enzymes. Surprise, surprise, on the whole drinking front typically.

But it's something I watch. And when did you hear about that? Because I'd never heard that to be the case. Yeah, I am fortunately, by virtue of doing the podcast and also being incredibly interested in science, interact with a lot of researchers. So I get to have chats with them once I get to know them better about pre-publication data. Studies that are underway. And they never want to talk about them publicly because, you have to check all the boxes, and science is also very much about not fooling yourself

when you make a certain hypothesis. But the first whispers of this were from, and still are, from animal models, where you can basically dose mice with 1-3 butane dial and give them the equivalent of fatty liver disease. Oh, wow. It's not good. And I'm sure I'm oversimplifying, but the point is treat it like ethanol. Treat it like not even tequila, moonshine.

Like you're drinking moonshine, and you wouldn't want to do that every day. It tastes like moonshine or cough syrup. Cough syrup moonshine. Yeah. So that is just to say, I still think there's a time and a place for it. I've been experimenting with other versions like ketone salts, Dominic D'Agostino. He's also the co-author in some of the papers that are describing this. You tried bath salts for a while, too.

That was a very odd version of Tim that came out. You know, if it's good for McAfee. Just eating the flesh off of us. Yeah. Eating people. Wasn't that a thing that happened? In the median in Florida. It's always a Florida man.

Yeah. Florida man dot dot dot, yeah. Meets another person. Chewing someone's face off after Bath salts. Stay away from Bath salts, kids. So yeah, I came in nice and fully loaded today. Yeah. Awesome.

Well, I am glad that you're feeling better because you also might not have made today. So yeah, that's a sidebar. I ended up, I may have had a glancing blow of eggplant to which I am deathly allergic and woke up in the middle of the night, incredibly sick last night. So I'm glad I'm here. Yeah. And I brought my EpiPen for dinner later. Amazing.

Learn my lesson. Bring your backup. So the retreat, let's finish that off real quick. So we got together. What did you learn this time around? Because we've done this twice. You've dabbled in the world of Zen. You've always said, correct if I'm wrong,

but meditation has been a hard thing for you typically. Where are you now with your practice? Well, what I would say is, you know, the first thing, speaking as a very much still a novice on any level, I would say that meditation is kind of like sports or exercise. Like, do you like exercise? Like, well, what kind of exercise? Meditation, there's so many different ways to meditate or explore mindfulness.

There's the Vavasana approach. There's Transcendental Meditation. There's Zen, which is very much its own thing, right? And you know more about that than I do. But what I do find helpful about the retreats is you can describe what is that. is going on when you're sitting still with your eyes closed, trying to focus on something in the case of say the breath, or trying to just observe whatever comes up.

And the feedback that you get from someone like Henry or Valerie, where you can do a 25 minutes sit, and then take a short break, talk about it, and they can say, well, given that you experienced this, this, maybe you had restlessness. Maybe you had, in my case, this sort of planning compulsion, right? So rather than memories or fantasies about who knows what, not necessarily people can run wild with that.

But I default to plans, like things I need to do. Right. And it's like, okay, well, if that's coming up, then Henry might say, why don't you try in the next sit, which we're going to do in 10 minutes or 5 minutes, A, B, or C, and then you do it, and you provide feedback. And so you're able to really polish the stone moving forward. And similar, I suppose, to a lot of what we might call transcendental experiences, which sounds fancy, but it's really just perhaps not fixating on the self or interrogating what this thing is that we call the self,

which you can do through meditation. You can also do it with, or maybe you're forced to do it in some cases with psychedelic experiences or other things, breathwork. When I was there at the retreat, you might remember this. I was getting very frustrated. And I was like, where is all this frustration coming from? Yeah. And while I was there, I was like, I don't know how much I'm getting out of this right now. But when I got back to quote unquote, real life in Austin, I had like three to five days of this just kind of blissful calm attention.

Where I was able to get everything done. I need to get done. There was no rushing. There was no looping in any kind of future tripping. I was like, well, that's very interesting. And it also holds true for, say, breathwork, psychedelics. There are many different things that you could look at. And interestingly, maybe this is one way to think of it.

I mean, in a sense, there are a lot of parallels between different methods for entering what people might consider a trans state. And I don't think meditation is exempt from that, depending on what it is. But if it's a concentration practice, it's like, for sure, you're using a mantra or are you using something you're repeating in the case of TM in the same way that you might use rhythmic drumming. Yeah. And you can go some pretty weird places and then you come out of you. You're like, I don't have to make of that.

And sometimes the payoff is what you notice in the next unfolding week or two or three or whatever the duration might be. That's right. So that was very invigorating for me. And also, Henry at one point, used a prompt in response to, I'll give a great, this is a real world example of something that happened. to me, something I experienced in a sit, and then Henry's response, right? So I use the way all the time, full disclosure, we're both involved with it. I mean, it's really because more than anything, more than anything else is just I think it's good for humanity and people to learn from somebody who is really deliberate about layering

on progressive skills that you can take outside of the meditation. But one of the practices is labeling. So if, and there are a million different ways to do this, but let's just say talk comes up in the mind and you label it radio or talking. And then if some kind of video comes up in the mind, right, images, you're imagining something or planning something or remembering something. Okay, that's video. And so on and so forth. Yeah. But for me, as someone with very well-established OCD, I can just end up being like, radio, radio.

Right, right it, right it, right, and it turns into, instead of a helpful thing, right. Right. Right. Right. And at that point in the retreat, in the retreat, clearly it was three to four days. Yeah. Like that?

It was very short. Henry said, okay, well, let's, he moved into the next sit and he said, just be still. Right? Like, just be still. That's it. That is the focus, like just sit still. And did that for two consecutive sits. I just focused on that.

And it was remarkable how much everything calmed down. I was like, okay. Well, just like exercise, like some people, sure, can go to the gym and do full sprinting workouts on an inclined treadmill. Not everybody can do that. Right. And other folks are well suited to yoga. Some people are well suited to different types of lifting, et cetera.

And everybody should probably spend a little bit of time in each of those compartments if they can. But it's not like everyone is equally suited. for instance, in my case, to like the open monitoring stuff, like, well, just sit there and notice all the things that come up. So I came out of the retreat thinking, you know what, something along the lines of Transcendental Meditation, not necessarily with that branding, but using a co-on, using Just Be Still,

as a concentration practice that I repeat, really gives me a lot of payoff. If I just sit still for 10 to 20 minutes, twice a day, can I tell my theory on this? No. So one of my theories, because I've been going super deep on bioelectric medicine in different ways of using electricity in place of pills, basically, and medications, which I think is really the next frontier in a million different ways. People should check out Michael Levin Tufts and some of the crazy stuff he's able to do. But related to meditation, I did this deep dive with someone named Kevin Tracy, who's very credible scientist.

very widely cited, help discover and explore a lot related to TNF Alpha and all sorts of things. And he is incredibly knowledgeable of vagus nerve stimulation. Not the bogus bullshit kind, which is 99.9% of what do you see on the internet? Yeah, yeah. But using, say, implants the size of an omega-3 capsule in the neck, which is where the biggest nerves run, it's really like two transcontinental cables running down either side of the neck. Each one has about 100,000 fibers. And if you put an implant in that's giving continuous stimulation on and off, on and off, it's not 24-7,

it's incredibly effective for things like rheumatoid arthritis. And actually it was FDA approved. It was on the cover of the New York Times. Holy shit. The day that I interviewed him. And that raises the question, how, why? What's going on? And it just so happens when you stimulate the biggest.

nerve, you activate something called the inflammatory reflex, and you can, in effect, prevent damaging cytokine storms, decrease systemic inflammation of all different types. That word inflammation is kind of an umbrella term for a million different things. And I remember chatting with one of my friends who is a professor, he was using the 10% happier app by Dan Harris. And he was meditating twice a day. And then after like one or two weeks, he's like, all of his aches, which are debilitating. Like he had a lot of musculoskeletal issues. They just went away. And one way people might

try to explain that is like, well, you're becoming more present, your feelings, and maybe it was psychosomatic. But I think it might actually be when you sit still and you inherently end up breathing rhythmically, because you can also stimulate your vagus nerve with, say, box breathing and other things, that you do that twice a day. If you were to use an implant or let's just say either ear-based or neck-based stimulation of the vagus nerve, guess how long it lasts? Roughly 12 hours. So you do it twice a day, you're getting full coverage. Oh, interesting. And so if you're getting full coverage, and there's a lot more to it, I won't dig too deep right now. If you're getting twice a day, Vegas nerve stimulation from sitting and focusing on breathing, even if you don't

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That's fascinating. So I bought one of the Vegas nerve stimulators that hooks onto my ear. Have you seen that one? And you feel that this little tiny pulse of current that's happening. So people who are not watching this may have trouble envisioning this, but I'm actually in communication with a couple of scientists in Scandinavia. I don't want to docks this guy because I don't think he's public with it yet. But there are two ways currently non-invasively to stimulate the Vegas nerve that are

commonly known. One is the neck where you really like press some type of device. There are a number of them out there, mostly used for migraines or cluster headaches. And it's pretty unpleasant. Like you stimulate the neck and it activates a superficial muscle in your face and it pulls your face down. And I used one of those for probably four to six weeks. Didn't see any systemic benefits. A friend of mine doubled his HRV using one of those devices. Like get some, I'm not going to call it PTSD, but he had some overactive sympathetic drive. And the vagus nerve stimulation is associated with the rest and digest parasympathetic. Okay.

Which is also why right now I stimulate before bed. Five minutes twice a day. For the ear. Jesus Christ. For the ear, there's something called the Simba Conscha. I think I'm pronouncing that correctly. Yeah. People can see most of the research.

This little bit right here? Right. here. Okay. And you can look this up online. You kind of want the portion of the simba contra that is closer to your sideburns, let's say. Okay. And then you need another piece that is grounding or completing the circuit, and that's got to be touching your skin. The contact point is incredibly important. Are there any of these that you like that are consumer available? Because a lot of this stuff you mentioned... You can DIY it with components off of Amazon, and maybe I'll make that available to folks. The reason I hesitate to do that is that it's easy

to get wrong and you can, I just don't want to be responsible for people trying to put current through their heads. There are a lot of people who DIY trying to do TMS and stuff. Yeah, this is the one TDCS and they reverse polarity and they, like, you can fry your brain, not with the biggest nerve stuff necessarily, but you got to be really careful with stimulation. If you've heard of this one, Neuropod, uh-uh. It's basically, if you look at who's involved on the scientist level, like it's crazy, the number of, you know, N-U-R-O-P-O-D. Let me, see the world's most study wearable Vegas nerve stimulation 100 plus international UCLA did a study there pen okay that's interesting it's to check it out it's interesting but I will say like just

you have you noticed anything I've owned this thing for about a year and a half I did it for about two weeks for 30 minutes a day I didn't notice anything yeah it's hard for me to see the placement on the earpiece the placement is very very very specific it's clips right here to this this lobe right here. Oh yeah, I don't think that's in the right place. But you feel a little ticky, tick, like shock almost. Yeah, I don't think you're, look, this is my first time seeing it, but I don't think you're going to be necessarily hitting as many fibers as you would want if that's the placement. Yeah. But who knows? A lot of fancy names on the website, maybe, I'll take a look at it. Yeah, I mean, it's worth, because I want something. I can borrow mine, dude. I want something I can

recommend to people. Yeah, exactly. Right now I can't recommend this because it's not done anything for me. But when I was doing the research for the most, like this one, they've clearly paid for studies to be done. Obviously, that's a huge grain of salt because who's doing the studies and what if their biases and whatnot. But I'll let you borrow mine and see if it does it does anything for you. It is a $900 device, which is like, shit, that's a lot of money to spend. Yeah, I'm using a prototype of one from Scandinavia right now. On Amazon, I'm sure people can find some instructions for this. You can DIY something for like $20 to $25 worth of components on Amazon. It is not hard. It's just a small 10s unit, cable.

the placement is very challenging to get right. Yeah. And I did not see much in terms of results for me, even with a lot of professional guidance, using that. So I want to tell you about something related. But can I stop for seconds? Try breathing. Yeah, do box breathing.

So that's what to say. Or something like that, do that twice a day. Okay, this is why also in The Great Nerve, which is a book written by Kevin Tracy, it's a great book, there's an extended chapter about Wim Hof. And Wim Hof is a very controversial figure, but well known for breathwork. And you see some of the same effects

in terms of controlling immune response so that it is not excessive with respect to various types of cytokines and so on. You can do it, breathwork. Yeah. So what are we looking at? This, have you ever heard of heart math? I have heard of heart math.

Okay, yeah. I went to a little mini retreat where they were doing like a bunch of different modalities in terms of different therapies and things to like, just really let you be the best version of yourself. And one of the things that they did was they gave you a heart math device and they had a whole class on it. And I was like, yeah, I heard that thing before.

I never tried it. And so I hooked it up to my ear and it measures your HRV. But what blew my mind was that the app, once you launch it, it's like, follow this box breathing. And we're going to watch, you get to watch your HRV in real time. And dude, when I followed it just as it was telling me what to do it, the HRV just like shot up. And then I would try and trick it, and I'd be like, I'd follow up and I'd think of something really stressful and my HRV would go down. So I'm telling you, this is the coolest device I have owned in a while. And you lock into this coherence mode as you do this breathing.

And it's pretty awesome. It's $250. Not an investor or anything, but heartmath.com. And it's 60-day money-back guarantee. Well, I want to say that because I hate recommending stuff. Affiliate code, 10.40%. Exactly. I tempt him 20% off.

I hate recommending stuff when you spend their money, but I will say this was the one thing that I was. I've heard good things about Heart Math. I don't know who's involved. I did, maybe you didn't know this, for a period of time, maybe it was about three months. I did training for this specifically. I think it was before any retail options were available

with a doctor named Leah Lagos, who has a book about this, and we actually, in real time, would do a video call and identify, what type of breathing specifically would have in real time the biggest impact on HIV. And there is something to this. There's definitely something to this. I can't speak to heart math, but I've heard of it before. So don't worry about the device for stimulation. The point being, try meditating twice a day for 10 to 20 minutes. And if you're like, ugh, meditating, God,

I'm allergic to that word because it gets used so much. Try breathing. Use heart math or something else. there's not a whole lot you need to worry about. Andy Weil has some very good breathing exercises. Yeah, 4-7-8. Yeah, so I have box breathing and 478 on my app, Oak, that's still in the app store, and it's 100% free. There's no way you even pay for anything on the app. So if you just Google Oak, you can find it. And it has like six different breathing techniques on there.

I think here's a hypothesis slash bet. I think that if it hasn't been demonstrated already, I haven't done a full, lit search for this. I think there are breathing patterns. If you repeat them in the morning and at night, twice a day, roughly 12 hours apart, like 10 to 20 minutes, that you will see a lot of benefits for things like chronic pain. Yeah. I really feel very confidently. So that's exciting. Yeah. Sweet. What else you got? I've got the crazy things. I mean, I just had my birthday a few weeks ago, which is crazy because I'm marching towards 50 really quick. I know. And so are you. Getting, getting dragged through the doorway.

Your fingernails leaving. It's really scary. It's really scary. Well, what's crazy is, dude, okay, so when I first, when Tim Lee first started hanging out, like, whatever, 15 years ago, 17 years ago, I don't even know how he's dead. Close to 20 years ago.

He's like, let me, like, every time you walk into Tim's house, he, like, tackles you with some kind of new jistice move to take you down. And, like, the last three years, he's been carrying a ball for his lower back where he's like, I can't move. And it's like, old man, Tim has appeared. and like that old Tim that would tackle you with the jiu-jitsu move is gone. And the gentle, not so gentle.

But I know one of the things that I want to really focus on for this next decade is balance. Balance obviously is such a key thing. And it's the number one way that people and they're as they get older in their 60s, 70s and beyond are actually permanently injured is by falling and breaking a hip and things like that. So two things to show off. Like incredible increase in risk all-cause mortality. if you're older and you break a hip. Yes. Turns out breaking hips are not good.

So check this out. This one right here I've had for a while. Don't fall on your ringing ball. So I don't have. Can you imagine? Smash my face in the ringing ball. So I'm going to show you how this works. Have you used this before?

I have. And so are you good at these or no? Oh, God. You're like, feel like a parent watching after you. How well can you do the balance boards? I haven't done it in a long time. There's one called the Indoboard,

which I have. I've fucked around with it. I don't think today is the day. Well, so check this. out. So five minutes a day, there was some research that was done around people with ADHD, and it dramatically improved their symptoms, which I have a ton of. Yeah, you can't really. But what, but I want to know if you can do this. I want to see if you can do these spots. You have to pay attention if you're on this thing. Could you do these? I don't know. Never tried

to. And then the tippy toes. So I do 50 squats like this. I should also point out, you know, the history is a skateboarder. I do. Yeah, which else. Let's see, let's see, Tim. I don't know if I'm going to. You'll be okay, you'll be okay. I'll hold your hand when you go up. Come on, just give it a shot for a second. I want to see.

I'll give you some depends and you'll give you a walker so you can get up there. Fuck, man. Okay, so one foot there. Yep, I got it. Jesus. Oh, fuck. Hold on.

There you get. It's got blockers, so you won't slide off the end. Yeah, yeah. Leaning hard right, hard right, harder on the right foot. Yeah, it's like, it's hard, isn't it? Well, I'm like nervous about falling over. There you go. There we go.

This squat? This is kind of like slackboarding where you like, you need a couple of days to get your nervous system. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't it amazing how your nervous system adapts to it? Yeah. So there's a crazy video. People should check out.

I think maybe it's not online. There's a guy named Jersey Gregorick had on the podcast. He's got to be 70-something right now, but he was 67. He could stand on one of these at 67 with a fully loaded barbell with like 150, 200 pounds. He weighs probably 130. And he could do a perfect form Olympic snatch landing with ass to heels and then stand back up and do repetitions. So, dude, when I was just in Japan last week. All right, there we go.

That's enough. When I was just in Japan last week, I was out there and I was at this event. Oops. I was at this friend's birthday party that Tony Hawks also friends with. So I was hanging with Tony. And he's like, I last time I saw Tony,

I was like, dude, how are you doing? Because I... Tony Hawk is one of the most legendary skateboards of all time for people that don't know. People definitely know who Tony Hawk is.

But yeah, you might... I mean, a lot of people... A lot of people. A lot of people. So Tony... For the youngster.

Last time I saw him, he had a cane. And I was like, this was probably like eight months ago or whatever. And I was like, dude, how you doing? He's like, I just got a couple screws put into my hip.

And, you know, he had this injury. And I was like, holy shit, man. I'm like, in my head, I'm like, oh, the fucking legend, you know. Pushing himself in his 50s to do, he's still doing like, you know, whatever, 720s on the half pipe it in his mid 50s, like, fucking crazy. And I saw him up in, up in Hokkaido and we're going snowboard. He's like, yeah, I'm going bored today. He has no cane, no nothing.

And I'm like, do you have pain? Like, do you have pain? They do feel pain. Like, what are you doing in your mid-50s, like, doing vert snowboarding? Like, you know what I mean? And he's just like, yeah, he's like, my wife jokes that I should have a shirt that says, like, always in pain or something like that. And I was just like, that is a, some people are built like that, though. Yeah.

Have you ever seen his shins? I'm sure they're just like he looks like a tie kickbox. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He has been hit so many times by the board. It's insane. You and your birthday, when I was at your birthday. in New York probably about, I don't know, maybe seven, 10 years ago,

you had a slack line in your backyard. Yeah. And I couldn't do it at all, at not even one step. Yeah. Because it is very much a nervous system practice. That's a nervous system practice. So I found this online as like a little home one. Yeah, that's cool.

I have played around with these. These are pretty sweet. So I have not used the smaller ones. I had one between trees. Same company, given. And just for people who've never, played with this. If you're going to try it, don't do like an hour thinking that you're going to figure out in one day. You actually, my belief is you need sleep cycles for your nervous system

to try to integrate it. So you're better off doing a few minutes every day and gradually you'll figure it out. That's cool. Very portable. Obviously a lot easier to set up and take down a gigantic thing between two trees with ratchets and everything. Yeah, exactly. I just wanted to get one because, again, on the balance front, they'll have a little QR code there at the end that you scan and they give you 20 or 30 different exercises that you can do with it. Like the toe taps where one foot is on and these tap a toe on each side of the bar. And like, you're right.

And there's this weird thing and I noticed it's in my kids where they got those little hoverboards for Christmas so they can just kind of zoom around and they're seven and eight. And day one, like eating shit, you know, helmets full gear. And day two, my youngest is just like,

whooshoo! Like just flying over the place. Totally figured it out. It took a couple days of that kind of adaption and that muscle memory to kind of kick in, which I think all these things do. But yeah, this has been awesome. Yeah, and for people who might want to try slacklining,

don't get on a slack line really far off the ground, number one. But a lot of rock climbing gyms have slack lines set up. So you can potentially get someone to show you the basic ropes, pun intended, of walking on a slack line over there. And it's called Gibbon. Pretty sure this is why it's called Given, because if you see really good slackliners, they do this with their arms as they're walking across.

And what does that look like? It looks like a gibbon, this monkey. Yeah. And you can see footage of Gibbons walking across, like, rope on small suspension bridges. Pretty fascinating stuff. So, try it out. Awesome. And, you know, I'll throw something out there.

Yeah, let's do it. Because it's related to rock climbing. Well, a couple of things. Since you brought it up. So for the last two days, you know, we've been hanging out a little bit. And you have not seen my little blow up Pilates ball that I usually put behind. I love that. I just mentioned it a few minutes ago.

I know, I do see it. Yeah. But you haven't seen it. I know. So what's going on? Well, it seems like, and this is not going to apply to most people, and this is a work in progress, so it's not definitive. But I ended up meeting with a neurologist and surgeon in Austin.

And you've injected baby seals stem cells. It's going to be some shit like that. No, it might apply to a very, very small fraction of the people who are actually listening to this. He did imaging. He used to be in a clinic where they ran trials and studies related to something called Bertolotti's syndrome. And Bertolotti's syndrome is incredibly uncommon. Most specialists in his profession might see one or two cases in their entire careers. But he's seen hundreds. And he looked at my imaging and he said, you may actually have Bertolotti syndrome. And he pointed out, they had very advanced imaging. The first time it came up,

it corresponds perfectly to where I point to when people ask me when I have pain or where I have pain, excuse me. And it's in effect where you have a transitional segment. So it's like a lbar vertebra that's behaving like a sacral vertebra or vice versa. And let's just say it's like L5 and the transverse processes. I think it's transverse processes on both. Try to form a pseudo joint. So they basically lay on bone and other material to try to create. what is then called a pseudo-joint.

And if you look at textbook cases at Bertolotti, he's like, yeah, of course that's going to hurt your leg back. And as a way of testing the hypothesis, he said, well, before we even consider any interventions, let's try to hone in on whether that is accurate or not as a diagnosis. The way we'll do that is there are some nerves that affect that area specifically. There's no like radiating effect or anything down the leg. let's put in effectively a nerve block and then see what happens.

Like we'll put in a nerve block. What is a nerve block basically stops the area from transmitting pain signals? But what does it mean though? When you put it in a nerve block? You lay down in my case on your face. I hate when anyone is messing with my spine, man. It's like very, I've had so many things done to me and I'm usually cool as a cucumber. But when needles are like in or around my spine, I will really get the fierce sweat.

I don't like it at all. But in this case, that was required. So you get a, in this case, it was, I think it was lydicane, small amount of lydicane to numb the surface. Then they're going through quite a bit of deep musculature. So they go in and then they're putting in, in this case, and obviously you need specialists for this. Who was the baby seal? Prolokane. They have baby seal semen.

No, it was prolocan and something called kennelog. But none of those specifics are the punchline. The punchline is, after you did the injection, he said, okay, this particular portion of the cocktail is going to last 18 hours. And then you're going to get probably two weeks of effect from the kennelog, something like that, which is a cortisone shot, basically. And he said, I want you to do all of the things that you think will most piss off your back. Like all of the things you've been avoiding, which for me are sitting on hard surfaces, sitting with a slightly flexed back. like if you're sitting on a bar stool and you're kind of like this, any of those stretching in that position,

sitting on the floor with the dogs, certainly things like heavy deadlift, squats. So I did all of that stuff for three days straight, zero pain. And I'm like, holy shit. After having so many specialists from different disciplines say, like, yeah, I know you point to that, but that's not the spot. It's actually because there's referral pain from this, this or this,

and just having so many people dismiss how precisely I could point to where I felt the most pain, which was consistent over years. And for the first time, he's like, if we look at the imaging, right here, it is exactly where you are playing with your finger. So I'm cautiously optimistic. Dude, that's amazing. This is the first time in six years. Also, just like, there are different tools that work for different people. sometimes it requires multiple tools.

A lot of people have benefited from the work of John Sarno, but that school, for instance, in effect, says none of the imaging really maps to symptoms well. It's all in your head. So do cognitive training and reconditioning to solve it because... That's the guy that Howard Stern got his back problems fixed through, right? It might be a lot of people benefit from that stuff. Yeah. But it's also infuriated.

to be told, like, every type of back pain is in your head. I'm like, really, if I took a ball peen hammer and smashed one of your head, that would be in your head? Like, I guess technically, since the brain is governing pain, like, fine. But this is the first time with a relatively simple, but precise intervention, I guess it's been about five days. It's like, I can do everything with no pain. So, dude, that's amazing.

So what does that mean? Well, could be the cortisol shot. Well, that's the one thing that's like, mm. Well, that is... But you probably had that before, right? Or no? No, I haven't. But here's the thing.

So that's going to have a different... Anti-inflammatory. It's also going to basically kind of, for lack of the better term, like, puff up the pseudo joint in a way that sort of reverses the chronological age or development of that in some ways from a symptom perspective. But this is where I'll offer people something that can potentially look into, obviously, with the help of really, really, really good doctors. if that shot continues to deliver benefits,

and I can do all these things pain free, which is the case right now, then there's something called radio frequency ablation, RFA, which is used to, in this case, temporarily completely incapacitate those nerves. So they go in, they apply radio frequency ablation, and that should last for like a year to a year and a half, hopefully. And the hope in that case is, okay, with a year, year and a half,

And I've spoken to multiple people, and they're like, even if you resume a lot of your activities and stare, step into it that previously caused pain, you shouldn't structurally make that worse, right? Because that was a concern. And I think that's enough of a period of time where you could effectively reprogram your pain patterning. Because for years now, it's like if I sit on a hard surface, my brain is like code red, DefCon 5. You are about not be able to sleep for six to seven days. and you're going to have trouble walking and sitting and standing. So I'm super exciting. That's awesome.

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I think I might have talked about this last time, but on my extensers, right? So the forearm extensers. So this would be considered like tennis elbow, like 20 plus years overdue from a sports injury. And I'm back to rock climbing. I'm not great at rock climbing, but I love it. I just love rock climbing.

Feeling really good. And if people have never seen something called Abra Hangs, so like Abraham, but Abrah hangs, go on YouTube, find this Swedish rock climber named Emil Abrahamson. So Abraham Son, S-S-O-N. He is a monster. Very competent rock climber does like V-13 problems and probably much more. Incredible explainer of things and dives into a lot of training. And he, along with the help of this scientist named Keith Barr, B-A-A-R, who I've actually had on the podcast, developed or, tested this protocol for improving tendon strength. And it is the simplest, lowest impact thing you can imagine. It's basically 10 minutes twice a day. And he does a bunch on a hangboard, but let's keep it simple. Let's say you're hanging on, could be a pull-up bar, could be a door jam, could be the underside of some stairs, whatever. And he's hanging with like 30 to 85% of his weights. His feet are still on the floor.

does that for 10 seconds on, 50 seconds off. 10 seconds on, 50 seconds off. And you do it 10 times. That's 10 minutes. And then you do it again later in the day. And his before and after, strengthen endurance tests are mind-blowing. This is already a guy who we could say

is a high-level climber. And to see the before and after is crazy. So you don't always have to kill yourself to adapt in really, really interesting ways. And that's, something I've really, really benefited from. But the low back has been a limiter, right, for like the last few months, because hanging from a bar, if I don't engage the abs, it could cause some issues with the low back and spasming. So I bought this thing recommended by a friend of

mine, Nick Norris, who's also been on the podcast, former Navy SEAL, called the Nug. And the Nug is, it's about the size of like a gigantic bar of soap. It's a piece of wood. And it has different depths of grips on it, like 25 millimeters, 20 millimeters, and you can move it around really easily. And basically, like, you could keep it in jacket pocket. And as long as you have a carabiner, like one of those things that kind of clicks on, you can do all sorts of exercises while you're traveling. And at home, I have basically a plate loading pin that you can load plates on. Like this? Yeah, exactly, so that you can basically do like a single-handed deadlift. And so this is the same is essentially doing the hanging board?

It's similar. I'm looking for the same kind of loading. But what you can also do is take this thing that you can fit in your pocket and attach it to like a low cable machine. That's what I was doing in Santa Fe, actually. Oh, that's cool. And just like get the weight off the ground, you know, the stack off of the resting position. And then I was doing 10 seconds on, 50 seconds up, 10 seconds on 50 seconds. And you only have one of these?

Yeah, because I'll do one hand and then I'll do the other. Oh, amazing. So I'll be like 10 seconds, 10 seconds, 40 second rest. 10 seconds, 10 seconds, 40 seconds. The website is frictitious climbing. It doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, but like friction, frictitious climbing. They have the nug. They have a bunch of other items that you can use while traveling for this, which are really, really interesting.

So that's another one that I've been traveling with. I'll let you go. Yeah, this is awesome. Yeah, it's just a fun little tool to play with. Do not overdo finger training. You do not want to tear a pulley or something in your fingers. So less is more, less is more, less is more. This is, I guess, something like 30 to 85% of body weight.

Obviously, or maybe it's not obvious, that's with two hands. So if you're doing it with one hand, it's going to be 15 to 40%. That's amazing. This is cool. Thanks. I already just ordered by the time we've done talking about it. Yeah, it's fun to play with it. Cool.

What you got? Yeah, so I've got a couple things. One, I was hanging with Craig Maude in Japan, and you've had Craig on the show before. Yeah. Craig is. Amazing, amazing guy. I don't think there's anybody that understands Japan the way that Craig does,

like in terms of the back country and just like the little artisans and all the stuff that he's into. Craig has walked, I probably fair to say, like thousands of miles of different trails and pilgrimage paths in Japan. It's very likely he has walked more of Japan on foot than any other person. Yeah, so he was out here visiting. He actually stayed in this house for a week when he was out here in L.A. And I walked in, he's got all his little toiletries, like, sitting out, you know?

Yeah. It's like sitting out. He puts it all in Japanese order where it's like on a little nice little cloth, and it's got like all this shit. He even dresses like a Japanese person. Yeah, I know. I know. I know.

So I mean, he's lived there for 25 years, so that makes sense. But I saw his toothbrush, and I was like, that is a dope looking toothbrush. And I got you one. Oh, wow. Look at this. So you can get these on Amazon. It's got a really wide head. He said it's his favorite Japanese toothbrush.

It has some nice. So for people who can't see it, it's like the toothbrush bristles are almost in a square. Yeah. I mean, it's very square-like as opposed to being more elongated. And so you get three of these for $11.50 on Amazon. And what does it say in Japanese? Premium care. Premium care.

All toasters here. Hey, buddy. Hey, buddy. Oh, man, toast. I was just saying hi to him, really. This is, toaster is now 15. I was just saying to Darya that the last time we did a podcast sitting on a couch was at your place in San Francisco. Back when Toaster was a puppy and he chewed through the cable, the XLR cable is on the Zoom.

That's right. He can't hear anything anymore and sadly his back legs are falling out from him now. But look at that. He's still a good dude. I feel like you recognize me because I've seen him so many times. Oh, for sure. Yeah. What a sweetheart. He's such a good boy.

So yes, premium care. Yes, I got you one of those. And like, there's a three pack for. $11.50. I think it's great. It's fantastic toothbrush. Yeah, yeah. Gishiri brush. They shikadhii migakered. Yeah, okay. Cool. I dig it. Thank you. Speaking of all things, Japanese, so I am hesitant to give this up. So if you want to get, if you want to get a loan stock, only one left.

Well, hold, let me tell you why. So first of all, check this out. Check up this jacket. Cool. All right. Oh, nice. You feel how heavy that is. It feels like a, almost like, I know what this is. I know what this is. So this is a fireman's jacket in Japan.

And this is a heavy, like dope fireman's jacket. It's vintage. This would be hard to rip. Like the 1970s. Oh, wow. And so I found a store on Etsy. How did you even think to look for this? Because I love this style of jacket.

Japanese firemen. vintage Japanese fireman jacket. I just typed in my Japanese jacket on Etsy. And so this importer, they import like the coolest vintage Japanese, everything from jackets to, you know how they used to do that patch mill

kind of work where they take stuff they would like patch quilts out of old material? Yeah. Yeah, so like everything from like little tiny shrines to wicker baskets. Like, dude, check out the store. Let me just show you this store real quick. And the only reason I'm playing

Plugging it is in vintage Japanese indigo dyed kendo jacket. So they got all the little dolls. They've got these different types of indigo dyed kind of blankets. So what's the seller? The seller is just an importer from Japan. You don't want to get the name? No, I will. So here's the deal.

It's so inexpensive. Like in the States, if you were to buy this jacket from a designer called Vizum, which is a good, well-known Japanese designer, this style of jacket would be, I mean, gosh, I mean, it probably be $2,500. Wow. For that jacket. More expensive than my car.

No, it's not. They sell these jackets on there for, here's one for $92. Look at this, vintage 1960s jacket, $92. That's cool. Oh, watch out, buddy. Okay, bud. He kind of needs a little help. I don't think you're ready for the slackboard, my friend.

Yeah. There you go. Okay, I know, I know. I mean, that jacket's dope. But I just wanted to give this out there because I think if you're looking to buy vintage fun things in, you can't score. I know, I know. I know. I know. I know being an idiot.

If you, if you look up for just various objects around your house that are vintage from Japan, this place is insanely inexpensive for all different types of things. Blue Heritage Japan? Yeah. So the Etsy name is Blue Heritage Japan. 4.9 stars, thousands of reviews. But look at some of this stuff. Yeah, that's cool.

These kind of hanging tapestries for stores and stuff. stuff. Yeah. Those are fun. So anyway, I just thought it was kind of a fun shop that, and you know it's legit because when you get the package, it's actually shipped directly from Japan. Yeah. Like, oftentimes you'll find some of these places that make like a Japanese style jacket,

and then you find a little tag that says made in China on the inside of it or something, you know? So anyway, look at this farmer's washi paper basket. But like, wouldn't that be cool to have in your house sitting around somewhere? I mean, like, that's just awesome. Yeah. I guess these guys are based in Canada. looks like.

Oh, no, that's just because I'm logged in the Canadian store. Why the hell are you logged in the Canadian store? I don't know. I was on a VPN. I better close those porn browsers. I was in Japan and they were firewalling me off of some stuff. And so I had to use VPN. Yeah.

A big dead serious. It wasn't porn, dude. Now Doth protest too much. Should I happen? Yeah, go ahead. All right, cool. So I want to recommend some podcasts for people, and these are two that I continue to revisit. One is this is a mini-series by 99% Invisible, one of the OGs, Roman Mars, and he's got some co-hosts.

It is a series on the Power Broker. So the Power Broker by Robert Carrow won the Pulitzer Prize in 1975. It's a biography of Robert Moses, who basically shaped modern New York. And this book is considered the quintessential book to read if you want to understand state and local politics, especially power wielding in New York. And it's a legendary book. It's 1,200 pages I've never made it through. I've never even really put a dent in it. And then what 99% Invisible does, they walk you through the whole book and kind of give you their highlights.

They interview Robert Carrow himself, who got to meet Robert Moses multiple times. times. And they have guest appearances by people like Conan O'Brien, who's a huge Robert Carroll and Powerbroker fan. It's a wonderful series. And I think there are 12 parts. I had listened to it ages ago, but they only had three episodes out, and then I just petered out because I didn't want to wait months for the next one to come out. Now they have the full 12. That's one. And then the other one is a podcast called STEM Talk. And if I want to find interesting scientists doing things that I think I might be able to apply to my life or the lives of loved ones. And certainly there's a lot of stuff that's out on the edges that is not yet ready for any clinical applications.

STEM talk is just incredible. And my latest discovery there is a really fascinating scientist named Dr. Francisco Gonzalez Lima, who's at UT Austin. One of the many reasons I'm interested in his research is that he has a very different view on neurodegenerative diseases is like Alzheimer's. And thinks, as I do, that people underweight and researchers underweight, how you might think of Alzheimer's as a vascular disease, and including mitochondrial dysfunction. And the more I dig into this, the less compelling I find kind of amyloid plaque,

like amyloid beta plaque, amyloid beta plaque, for a whole host of reasons. It's pretty widely accepted now that that is a byproduct of something gone wrong. and not the cause of it, right? But still, I do think a lot of doctors and scientists would view it as a byproduct. Nonetheless, a lot of the treatment options, like denotomav infusions or otherwise, are focused on removing plaque. Right.

But you can remove a lot of plaque. It doesn't do shit. Assuming it doesn't kill people. Yes. Because there are risks with RA and stuff. And you may not see any change in cognition whatsoever. What do you think of the Bresden protocol? I don't know, like Dale Bredson.

I don't know much about Dale. So you could illuminate. me? Let's get to that in a second. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. But what I have seen, let's just say, in the case of some of my relatives, I've got three relatives with Alzheimer's right now, one who's disintegrating very quickly, one who's in hospice and another who's sort of in the early, but rapidly advancing stages. And I gave one of them, actually the exact same ketone that I had before we sat down, only 10 grams, because I didn't want them, I didn't want to risk them getting dizzy, which can be a byproduct and falling. But I gave them 10 or 15.

15 grams and within 20 minutes longer sentences faster speech this is someone who is giving like one word two word responses and that lasted for about an hour hour and a half so if plaques even if we're talking about tau and so on if those were solely responsible that shouldn't work but i don't want to be dosing my family with ketones constantly for a lot of reasons it's like okay what else can we do and this Dr. Gonzalez Lima has looked at low-dose methylaine blue and also photobiomodulation using lasers or LEDs

like right on, in most cases, the right pre-final cortex. By the way, do you know that they're selling methylian blue on freaking Amazon now? That's scary. I know. They didn't used to because they were scared to do it.

Now there are supplement companies that are selling straight up methyline blue on Amazon. That's scary. Yeah. Although the safety profile, It's been used for a very long time. Yeah, it's got like 120 years of research,

but if you overshoot the therapeutic window, like you can fuck yourself up. Yes. So in this case, it's low dose, ideally plus photobiomodulation, and you're hitting two aspects of the electron transport chain that should be synergistic for mitochondrial function and also glucose metabolism.

That's really got my attention right now. Dude, look at this on Amazon. This guy drinking a big picture of it. Guys drinking a like a shaker bottle full of methylene blue. With the goldfish. You know, methylene blue is what they used for fish tanks, right, to color the water blue. Is it? Yeah, they were using it in fish tanks.

Well, it's good enough for the fish tanks, I guess. Be careful. Yeah, look, look it. Here it is. General disease prevention for fish. If it works for fish. This pet stores figured it out. Yeah, exactly.

Be very careful, folks. If you overdo, this is true for a lot of things. You basically have a response. a response curve where a hormetic dose, like a very small amount is good for you, kind of like iocaine powder in Princess Bride, or it helps with immune function and so on. If you take too much as the opposite effect,

so you could, I believe, I don't think I'm getting this wrong, handicap your mitochondrial function by taking too much. Dude, look at this, 15 milligrams of methylame blue with 75 milligrams of vitamin C, neuropro. I'm not recommending this. This is just one on Amazon.

It's all over Amazon. God, that's terrifying. What would it be considered a microdose, in your opinion? I'd have to go back and look at his actual research. People should listen to the Stam Talk episode with Francisco Gonzoss. Like a picture of somebody put in her purse. Like an epipet. Yeah, I'll just take this to go.

Take this to the spa. By the way, the comments, it's so funny you are on this because literally two days ago I was in here reading the comments and they're like, I'm peeing blue now. Like you pee blue. You do pee blue. And that's actually a way. individually that you can begin to identify your customized dose. Oh, you shouldn't be being blue.

No, at what point you go from blue to clear. You can figure out basically what the, probably using not exactly the correct terms, but figure out what the half-life is in your body so that you're dosing at the right interval. They call this bro science, by the way, when two guys that don't have... Well, I mean, I am pretty closely echoing.

Yes, it is bro-science. but it's bro's science with citations. Meaning, like, don't trust exactly what I'm saying, but go listen to the episode and read his research. Dude, look at this. Methylene blue gummies. They're selling it like gummies now of Methylene Blue. Terrifying.

Anyway. Just because the supplement doesn't make it safe, folks. Amen. Yeah. Hemlock, all natural. Turns out it shouldn't have too much of it. Hemlock. Yeah, killed Socrates.

Oh, yeah. That's right. Yeah. So it's just like arsenic. All natural. Don't go take a shaker bottle full of arsenic. Yeah. So, yeah, be careful out there, kids.

That definitely has my attention right now, because I think about, say, parental risk, my mom's cognition is slipping, but she's APOE-3-3-3, or APO-E allele profiles 3-3. I'm 3-4, my brother's 3-4, which means we got the 4th from my dad. He's sharp as sharp. He's older than my mom.

So it's like, all right, they both have metabolic dysfunction. Right. So that's kind of equalized, right? Like, do fasting glucose and all that's terrible. It's like, what's going on? Well, you do inherit mitochondria from your mom and mitochondria a very big deal. So I'm looking at different levers that I might experiment with in my mom that could also potentially be applied preventatively.

Yeah. And me and my brother. Yeah, so the Dale Bradison protocol is pretty awesome. He wrote a book about six or seven years ago. Maybe it's closer to 10. Nicotine Enemas, am I right? Exactly. That's all it is.

Which you tried for the first time today. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Well, it was exactly that, but yeah. So the one thing I like about, it's called The End of Alzheimer's, is the name of his book, is that he's... Understood it. Yeah, exactly.

It won't sell any copies with that title. But what he came up with is he said, okay, listen, what we're seeing in the brain is the byproduct of something going in hair wire. It's either blood brain barrier breaking down, allowing bad shit in. It could be bacteria, it could be like a whole slew of different things. It could be, like you said, an issue. with blood flow and it could be, what did you call it,

a vascular type issue. And he thinks it's like three or four. He thinks it's either vascular, which sauna, other things like that help with cocavia, like other ways to make sure that you have vascular health. Obviously, the mitochondria thing is another one that he's huge on. And then he also thinks it could be toxin-related as well. And in talking about how to get those toxins out of your body.

But his protocol is very common sense. It's like, what is it? It is essentially a handful of supplements, which are all the ones that you've basically talked about, along with, he calls it, it's a lightweight keto. So just making sure you go into lightweight ketosis like five days a week. And then, you know, obviously no sugar, no refined carbohydrate, it's like limiting all that shit. It turns out exercise, like intense exercise is very important.

And he's shown now over the course of a decade that he's taken people. Actually, you know Kelly Boys, who we were on the retreat with. She's an awesome meditation. She teaches something, this form of relaxing yoga. Yoga need to. Yeah, as an aside, her father, I think she'd be okay to me to show this. Well, double-checked, but her father had mild cognitive impairment 10 years ago. And they were, of course, really worried.

They put them on the Dale Bredison Protocol, and he's scoring better now than he was when he first took the test. Ten years later. Yeah. And she's like, yeah, he still has issues. here and there, but he's like, you know, because in his 80s now or something, it's like,

but that's what you want. Makes it difference, yeah. Like, even if we can say, okay, my mom is in the pyramid, it's progressing, like my mom is in this situation. She can't tell you what she had for breakfast,

but thankfully, she doesn't have Alzheimer's, she has some form of dementia. She remembers me, kids names, stuff like that, the important things, she would have a hard time telling you what name my dog is.

Like, there's little things that slide through the cracks. She's, and sadly, really overweight, didn't really want to do that. But the point is, if we can see this stuff early enough where they still have enough of your wits about you to take action, because compliance is huge, as you know.

Like, how hard is it to get your family members to go do high-intensity, like, exercise? Yeah, can I pause for that? Yeah, yeah. So that's part of the reason why the methylene blue and the photobiomodulation is so interesting. Because, for instance, there's a device that is actually worth investigating on some levels.

It's called the Cognito device. It's a headset. and it was developed by scientists out of MIT. And it's 40 hertz, I believe, both visual and auditory stimulation. And in Reesus Monkeys, pretty recently in the last year or two, last year, they showed a lot of plaque clearance enhanced by this, right? But that's still, if I'm understanding it correctly, people fact check this, but that's still predicated on the theory of disease for Alzheimer's

than by removing plaque, you get clinical outcomes, right? The photobiomodulation, well, I mean, before I get to that, as I understand it, this is an hour a day of wearing this device on your head. My mom's not going to do that. There's no fucking way, right, nor any of my relatives. However, the photobiomodulation, it's like eight to ten minutes, laser or LED. LED is a little harder to make work. And do you have to go in to do that, or can you get a device?

I'm going to buy a device, and I'm not recommending people to do that. can really damage your eyes with lasers and so on. But right now it's not like you can go to a clinic and be like, hey, I'd like to have this treatment. It just doesn't exist. So let me be the guinea pig before anybody does anything. But you get this device and I'm sure it's going to be very expensive, right? Some of these lasers, like there's like $30,000.

But eight minutes, eight to ten minutes, you can see, even after a single session, you can see multiple weeks of effect. Hmm, crazy. And so it just sits right on top of, Into the eye or on top of the... Well, there are devices that go through the eyes, but this one, what makes it so mystifying in a way for me is that it's actually pointed at the forehead

as an infrared laser. It's so fascinating. Wow. There are peer-reviewed published studies on this, which you can find. Anybody who looks up, González Lima, will find it. So it's exciting. It's super exciting.

So there's certain things like, I know that my mitochondria are funky. I know that through different types of endurance. testing, different types of, obviously all sorts of stuff done through doctors and tests and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There's something funky with the mitochondria. I'm like, okay, well, let's try to get ahead of that. Yeah. And actually related to that to invoke, I said she would come back. Rhonda Patrick also, you know, was texting with her at one point because I was listening to STEM Talk, that podcast I mentioned, and I came across a scientist discussing something called

Eurolithin A. Of course, it might appear. Yeah, might appear. And two years ago, maybe it was two years ago. Like, she was pretty bearish on it, but there's a lot of new research, or I shouldn't say a lot, there's new researchers to come out and also met with a couple of biotech people in Boston who are very respected. I'm not going to docks them because I don't want to, but they basically did this like comprehensive analysis and landed on three or four things, and one of them was your lithium right. I take 300 milligrams a day. How did you choose 300 milligrams? Because that's what all of the studies are done on. Sorry, so 500 to 1,000. I take 500 milligrams a day. Yeah.

Clearly I need to be taking a higher dose. I've only been doing it. Do you see guys for three months to see some results? So bear with me, people. I love it. It was 200,000 grabs off. What's a little strange is that when you, if you buy the bag, you can get this on Amazon. I'm not recommending.

You do that. Jury is still out. But I'm like, hey, I want to hit mitochondria from as many reasonably plausible mechanisms or angles as possible. You can get mitapure. It's expensive. So, it's very expensive. I was going to tell people that the one. that people talk about the most in this world that has done a lot of clinical studies around it

your thermal a is um this company called timeline you know they trademark the name of it which is mitochondria the problem is it's freaking expensive it's very very expensive and i don't know is there another company that's out there that has high quality i'm not going to put shit into my body right but i would like to know is there any company that when you say expensive it's like 60 count is $125, right? And you take it to a day. It's expensive. Yes.

That's 30 days. And most of the studies actually have people taking a thousand a day. So if you're taking a thousand a day, right, the prices are, you know, the prices are going to add up. But again, but again, I would trust pure encapsulations. If they offered some of it, I haven't seen anybody. You know, like there's no other brands that I've seen that, you know, the household names like the thorns, the purists.

I mean, this is a single skew, well, not a single compound company. like they have a lot vested in IP protection and so on. But it can be synthesized. They don't own that you're throwing all A. Obviously, that's something that anyone can produce. Well, your, urolithinae is also what's called a postbiotic. If you were eating tons of pomegranates and walnuts and so on, there's certain things that in your gut,

by microbes will be converted into, in part, uralithinae. The problem is that there's a high degree of variability. So if Kevin eats two handfuls of walnuts, and I ate two handfuls of walnuts. We're not going to get the same amount of urolithine out. Fortunately, urolithinae is very orally bioavailable, which is why the supplementation potentially makes sense.

What's interesting is actually pure encapsulations does make one, and when you go and look at the label, they actually buy mitopure for theirs. Oh, there you go. So they use mutopure in this case is almost like a, it's like an industrial grade supplier in so much as creopure. Like if you're buying creatine, right? I use Momentus Creatine.

They're sponsored on the podcast, but I like their stuff and everything is like NSF certified and third-party analyzed. Crea-pure is this supplier, just like maybe

mytipure is, that's providing something that is very pure and properly assayed and so on and so forth. Okay, so pure encapsulation, it's not cheap either. That was 80 bucks.

80 bucks, but that'll get you, hold on, let's just don't do the math here. So $80 is 60 pills, and again, it is 250 megs per two pills. So that's half the dose.

Yeah. So if you wanted, per two pills. So if you wanted 1,000 a day, that's eight per day. 160. Oh, 1,000 a day. Yeah, it's eight a day. 60 caps. It has other shit in there, too.

I don't want all this other stuff. The transveratrol. Yeah. So yeah, it's expensive. That 80 bucks is going to last you like 12 days, something like that. In any case, guys, jury's out. But it's interesting enough that I added it into the rotation. Yeah, I routinely take things out of the rotation also.

Yeah, same. This one I've been taking for probably six to eight weeks. What's the number one thing that you've kept in rotation for the longest time? I have to. Vitamin D, obviously, because my levels are chronically low without it. And I think at this point it's a no-brainer to get your levels where they should be. And then I would say, Kokovia is another one that I have had in for a long time. It's interesting, yeah.

Just because it looks really interesting in terms of vascular health. and then I think that's, well, obviously, a high quality omega-3. Outside of that, I don't know what else I've had. What's been in your rotation forever? I mean, a lot of them are dictated by genetic analysis and blood biomarkers and so on. Yeah, right?

So outside of prescription stuff, because I am taking things to not die of cardiovascular disease, because everybody in my family gets smoked by some kind of cardiovascular disease, and I'm like, eh, I'm no spring chicken. You taking repatha, too? Yeah, taking a raphatha.

Where do you inject it? In the thigh. I hate it. It's so painful. Oh, really? I find it so painful. Oh, my God. Dude, I can tell you a secret.

What's the secret? How long do you let the alcohol dry for? I don't think it's the alcohol. Dude, I'm telling me? I've done thousands of injections in myself. You've got to let it because if you just like swipe, swipe, swipe, and then go pop, it hurts. Because it's pushing the alcohol down into the cut.

Maybe I'm not waiting long enough because I'm impatient. It's possible because. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. come to room temperature too? Yeah, I did let it come to the temperature. Because he don't, he don't takes five times as long to inject it if you don't. Yeah, there's the prescription stuff. It's not going to apply to too broad a number of people and I don't want anyone aping it and getting themselves into trouble. But there's, there are like a few prescription meds for lipid profile.

It's specifically in my case, cholesterol absorption, hyperabsorption. But I would say supplement-wise, omega-3, I honestly try to get that from fish when I can. So I eat a lot of canned sardines and mackerel and stuff, which ties into the keto and fast mimicking diet stuff. Vitamin D, yes, although I'm pretty skeptical of, like, the entire planet having vitamin D deficiency, frankly. I do take it, though. Then there's some B vitamin complex stuff. I do that too. I'm a shitty methylator, so that's a good idea.

And creatine, although I end up looking kind of like a puffy fat baby if I eat too much of that stuff. You're doing five grams? It depends on the day, right? So, like, I took five grams today. if I'm training, I'm going to use at least 10, doing weight training. And then if I'm, I have a crazy travel schedule ahead of me

where I'm going to be in like London for one day and Sweden for one day, I'll be taking probably 20 to 30 grams a day because my sleep's going to be so screwed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just to compensate for this sleep deprivation. Holy shit. Good luck.

Yeah. Good luck. Yeah. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't combine. Actually, I'm fine with creatium.

If I get... You told me at one point it was messing you up, though. Well, there was the story of me, what did I have? I was in San Francisco. This is probably TMI, but whatever. We're all friends here, right? So I was in San Francisco. I had my bulk swag and golf.

They got broken into like three times for change. I was so annoyed San Francisco for the win. And in any case, I had to run to an international flight, and I was stressed out because I was running behind. And I was like, well, just before I go, I'm going to have double espresso, 10 grams of creatine. And then I had MCT oil.

And I'm driving on my way to the airport, like in a massive rush. I don't have time for anything. And I leaned to do a little squeaker and just full disaster pants. No, in my own car. I park in long-term parking. You grab a new pair out of your thing, just wipe and go? I, God, all right. Can't believe I'm talking about this to millions of people.

but basically took the underwear and like some rags that I had, like did what I had to do for like emergency field triage, tossed it under my car, put on my pants. Throw it the trash, dude. Put on my pants. No, I literally was like about to miss my flight. Put my pants on commando style and then ran on and got on the flight. Wow.

And I was just like, I'm sorry, everybody. I know this can't be too much a wonderful clone for anyone. Oh, God. We might need to edit some of that. So yeah, don't do those three or once. If you're getting creepier creatine, I don't find it to mess up my stomach at all. Totally fine. If you combine it with caffeine and MCT oil,

MCT oil is the devil, dude. All bets are off. All bets are off. That stuff just goes straight through you. I don't know a single person that can do high-dose MCT is being like, oh, my stomach's fine. Yeah, no, you're going to just pre-order the subscription of depends. Yeah, exactly. Let me mention one other things. So related to all the mental health stuff, it sounds like that.

Like we're doing like tons of stuff, millions of things. It's actually not that complicated for me, right? There are a few supplements that I'm taking consistently, the creatine, the uralithinae, et cetera. There are a few things I'm considering, like methylene blue. If photobiomodulation with the lasers or LEDs is something that you can experiment with once a week or once every few weeks and track changes over time,

let's do that before and after cognitive testing. Intermittent ketosis, right, which I find easiest to do through intermittent fast. frankly, which I'll be doing when I travel also. I find it to help with jet lag. And then there's the exercise, right? So what kind of exercise? I did a podcast with Dr. Tommy Wood recently.

Fascinating guy. People should listen to that episode. But four by four Norwegian high intensity training, which is like you're basically doing, I guess it would be considered zone four, you're really maxing out your heart rate. And you're doing four minutes on, three minutes off, four minutes on, three minutes off,

four minutes on. You're repeating that four times. And it is very much puke-inducing. It's a lot of lactic acid. The problem has always been, or one of the problems has always been, that if I'm traveling, stationary bikes and hotels are just terrible. They will destroy my knees. They're just too inconsistent in terms of settings and stuff.

So I was texting with Tommy, I don't think he'd mind me saying, I'll have to double check with him. But I asked him, I said, if in the conversation we had, I was like, well, what are the drivers here? Is it V-O-2-Max? So people talk about VOTOMX, VOTOMX, VOTOMX, VOTOMX. And he said, well, lactate actually seems to be a big driver, like lactic acid.

Driver of what? Driver of the cognitive changes, like the neuroanatomical and vascular changes. And it's like, okay, well, hold on a second. I was like, if that's the case, there are certain ways of weight training, like, if you do 20-wreps squats in slow cadence or any number of different things, like you are going to be brimming with lactic acid, could that possibly? achieve the same. You don't think it's clotho? Clotho's another part of it. Because clotho has been

shown, like, hit is what creates clotho in the humans. Well, clothos is another piece. I don't think it's the only piece. I think that, I mean, look, I can't wait for us to have proper injectable clotho, or that lever to pull. But in the meantime, I guess the, right now, today, what I'm saying is, like, high intensity interval training when you're traveling is not always the easiest thing to do. Right, right, right. But, like,

for instance, when I go back to my hotel tonight, Yeah. Can I do like a couple of sets of very high repetition leg presses and just basically have lactic acid pouring out my eyeballs? Yeah. I can do it in like five minutes. And there are many open questions about it, but that's the approach I'm taking. And what's really cool about the Norwegian 4x4 that Tommy describes, and I think I'm remembering this correctly, is that if you do it, I think it's three times a week for six months, you can observe the effects, the beneficial effects for like five years afterwards. Wow. Holy shit. Isn't that fucking crazy?

That's amazing. The durability of the effects are just nuts. Okay. This is what I got, I don't start by like one by one or something to get going. Four by four by four. If you're doing it properly, I use a Morpheus chest strap. Yeah. But you're assuming a certain level of like baseline cardiovascular fitness and do four by four. Not really because, I mean, look, you don't, you don't like blow your, you don't like blow your self apart, but it's heart rate-based, right? Right. So if you get winded and your heart gets gone, walking up a flight of stairs, like, you're not going to need very

much to get into the proper zone. I will say for me, and this comes back to the mitochondrial discussion, and I've had doctors who are like, that's nonsense, it's all mediated by the lungs, or it's actually not mediated by the lungs, it's all like heart stroke volume. I'm like, my legs crap out first. Yeah. Before my heart rate gets to where it needs to be,

my legs are the weak link. Oh, dude. The fatigue in my legs. I've got boots for you tonight. Can I put the boots on you have dinner? Are these the ones that go all the way up the leg? Norma Tech. Yeah. I'll try them.

Have you ever tried them? I have. I love those. Oh, they're so good. For people don't know, real quick, as long, you just squeeze and they move the blood around in your legs, great for recovery. It's like, if you want to feel like a Kobe cowl. Yeah, exactly.

Throw on some Norma Tech boots. Have a cold beer while you're doing it. Yeah. We can do both those things tonight. I mean, that's it from my side. That's a lot. I've got some doom and gloom by AI ship, but I don't want to talk about that. Yeah.

No, let's save the dude. Doom and Gloom for next time. Yeah. I think you're getting contagion from one of our other friends. I left out something that's kind of important. This guy's got what you're talking about. We have a buddy that just like, we text with and we love you if you're listening. Yeah.

But he's like, the world is ending. It's a lot of, it's, it's, I can only, I lean dystopian anyway. It's like, I don't need anyone feeding that hypervigilant. Like, I need to become John Connor. Like, I don't. Yeah. Plus, it's like, can I do anything? What is, what am I going to do?

What's Tim are going to do? Yeah, exactly. Medesia. The genius out of the bottle, folks. So we'll save the doom and gloom for next time. But in terms of an actionable thing, like something I just did before coming here, let's say you want to experiment with this lactate as lever

for cognitive longevity. Right? That's interesting. Okay. And let's just say furthermore, to your point, right? Everybody's getting older. And believe me, maybe you're like 20-year-old dude and feeling immortal.

those fucked up joints and broken bones will add up and they will come back to haunt you like the ghost of Christmas past. So if you're trying to minimize injury risk, right, and lifting there. There are a couple of different ways you can do it. One that I've been a proponent of for a long time is slow down, five seconds up, five seconds down,

10 seconds up, 10 seconds down. Time under tension is huge, right? Yeah. So it's like, look, if you're not a competitive power lifter, consider moving slowly. What that requires you to do is lower the weight. You're also not going to be using momentum.

Yeah. The second thing. Testosterone. Not for lactate. Okay. Yeah, I mean, sure. When in doubt. Yeah.

When in doubt. Two and a milligrams once a week. Yeah, that's a joke, people. Well, first of all, if you have it, you, well, anyway. Don't do that. The second thing you can do, which I've been experimenting with, which Tommy would use is all the time, especially when traveling, is blood flow restriction cups.

Yes. And so. I used to have some of those before my fire happened. Yes. I would blood flow. I got the automatic. automatic ones that would automatically keep the pressure too. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, you're not going to be, you don't want to use like a hand pump. I've got the, I'm using the K-K-K-A-A-T-Su-U-C-4. I'm using the C-4 because I'm like, I don't want another app on my phone. Did you get the app? Oh, I got the app. Yeah, that's nice. Look, if people want apps, they can. I'm kind of along the bill-bur lines of like, I need to install a fucking app to

use my toaster now. Like, please shoot me. My hummingboard feeder. Oh, yeah, we'll talk about that. Let me finish the blood flow of stress. We're all over the place. All right. So the blood flow restriction, all it is, it's a cuff, it inflates, and it causes a partial occlusion.

It's cutting off circulation to your arms or your legs. And there's a lot of really good science on this. You can check it out. But what you can do when traveling, and I'm trying this right now, Tommy Wood, by the way, it's a phenomenal athlete, endurance and strong man, in addition to being an incredible researcher. I don't know where they breed these people, like Dominic D'Agostino, same thing, like 500 pound deadlift for 10 reps after a 7.000. day fast. Like, who are these people? Anyway, time is a beast. When he's traveling and he doesn't lose muscle when he's doing this, he'll use blood flow restriction and he'll bring bands. He'll

just have a bunch of bands. And I got to tell you, I like to think of myself as reasonably strong. I'm not a world-class power lifter, but like, I think, like, generally pretty strong. Yeah. I put on those cuffs today and I was like, I think I'll just bump it from light up to medium. Like 20 pounds? Well, it has a different metric. It has a different band strength. Yeah, in terms of there's extra large or extra strong or whatever. I can't remember.

Yeah, I mean, it's, if you use the Katsu bands. There are many other brands. Tom uses a different brand. You can find in the podcast and put in the show notes. But suffice to say, it's like you're using very, very lightweights. And it's like I can probably do hammer curls with like 40 pound dumbbells. Let's just say. Wait, with those on?

No. No. That's what I was going to say. I'm saying, way too much weight. I'm saying normally, right, with reasonable cadence, not swinging around, I can probably do hammer curls with 40 pounds without too much trouble. With the blood flow restriction bands on. Like literally 20 pounds is all you need.

Oh, 10 pounds. Yeah. And I was doing like 30 reps and then take 15 second rest, then 20 reps, 15 second rest, like 10 to 50 reps. So you have the C4s, these bad boys? I've got the C-4s, yeah. And look, Katsu is expensive. These are, what, $1,259. Like, that is expensive.

There are other options that are not that expensive. But then the one that really was humbling is, I was like, okay, I'll just do push-ups for, like, triceps. Right. Just to, because I only brought the arm bands. I didn't bring the leg bands and everything. This time around, I can just do, like, walking lunges. Trust me, and you can smoke yourself doing those.

But was doing push-ups, and I was like, well, let me start moderate. I'll just start on like a bench that's about 18 inches off the ground. I'll do some push-ups. And I did like, wow, that's a lot harder than I would expect. Right. Because like on the ground, I could probably do, I don't know, 40, like good form, 50 push-ups. And I did 25. I was like, wow, that's uncomfortable.

And then I went to do the next set, got like five. And I was like, oh, I can't do it. And so I increased my, basically elevated myself to make it easier. right and I'm doing it on like the seat of a hamstring curl machine did like 12 couldn't do anymore and then I got I got to the point where I was literally doing push-ups it's so humbling on like the railing of like some stairs I was like I'm basically standing up straight and I did 30 reps and I was like this okay really real quick keeps your ego in check 20 second version why is it working why is restricting blood flow working why is it building more muscle it's doing a few different things it's also

increasing like capillary density and vasculature. It's having a whole host of effects. I, to be honest, but doesn't it increase HGH as well, localized? It might. It makes you sweat your balls off too. And then I had another question.

Not to get too technical, but could it work? Could that work? Kevin's asking me if you could use blood flow restriction on your, I didn't want to bring it up unless, unless it was, Schwantz. So listen. I think it sounds like a terrible idea. No, listen, they have the rings that you can put around your slunks.

And, but listen, hear me out. I just literally Google that there is smooth muscle tissue in there. Yeah. If you're telling me that you're putting bands on your arms doing lifts. How are you going to do lifts with your schwanz? You have to have a slunk erection. And then you do like some Shalyn Monk like. Well, you have the band.

I'm just saying this is theory. I guess you could like do manual resist. You could push it down and then bring it back up. Five seconds down five seconds up. You know it's crazy? It's like we obviously everyone knows this is a joke, but it might not be. You know what I mean? Like this could be real.

Do not. Yeah. Do not wrap duct tape. Well, they have rings that they sell at stores. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think you can try that and then report back in the next.

Have you ever used one of the rings? I don't think so. You have to. No. I mean, I would. Why not? Yeah. I mean, why not?

As long as you're not going to like. completely, it's not going to just fall off. Apparently, it's, so it locks the blood in. Well, obviously, yeah. What else would be for? Well, obviously, for people who don't know. Pre-Biagra era. We're talking about Cochrings. We're speaking in fucking riddles here.

It's like, that's what they're called. We're speaking of Zin'Koll. Yeah, it's like, it's a sound of one. Yeah, okay. It's really fucking went in the gutter. Yeah. Quickly. Well, it was the end of the episode, so hummingbirds. Hummingbirds. Okay, so before we started the show,

Tim's like, you've got to mention the hummingbirds. Well, I looked at your, your draft. I was like, you got to talk about your hummingbird thing. You send me a bunch of these videos. Dude, they're so cool. Okay,

so essentially for Christmas, I got my kids a hummingbird feeder with a digital camera built in. And the cool thing about it is it charges from the sunlight and then also, so the camera just always stays on. And then also it detects what,

in this case, it's a hummingbird, but they happen for normal birds as well. But it'll tell you the variety of hummingbird that landed. Oh, I didn't know. And then use the air. and then you can name them.

And so we have one name. Tony's back. Yeah, exactly. And we have one named Sunset, our girls named is sunset because it has this beautiful red neck. Huh. And we're like, I'll get a text notification. Sunset is drinking.

Is it the one? That's the one. Bird Buddy. Smart Solar Pro. Hummingbird feeder. And it's fun, people. Because these things are so beautiful. The videos are amazing.

The videos are amazing. And then they play with each other. And you watch them hovering and you get full audio. So you see the little tiny tongues like sticking out. It's just amazing. It's really cool. The videos were quite cool. Then I got the one that is for just standard birds,

which has bird feed that comes down. Yeah. And motherfuck-s squirrels are taking it over. Oh, they're just mercenaries. They jump. Like there's nothing you could do to keep them out of it. Like they will spring onto it. And then you see they're like, sadly,

they look out because they don't want to get attacked. Yeah. And so you just all I have is squirrel ass. on my freaking camera. I'm like, God damn it. Like, how do I get rid of the squirrel? Have you heard of Mark Roberer? Does this name anything?

No. Who created, like, the ultimate squirrel ninja warrior course in his backyard. Put it on YouTube. Let me, yeah, there we go. All right, Mark Rober, squirrels. I think he had the same problem. Here we go. Backyard, squirrel maze, 1.0, Ninja Warrior course.

Do you keep them out? People have to check this out. Oh, oh, no ads. No free ads. I got to pay for my pro. Yeah, you're not paying $5 a month. I'm not logged in a month. You're buying $7,000 Japanese vintage jackets

so you won't pay $5 to get rid of these goddamn ads. Look, skip. So here, all those ads. Whoa. Yeah, look at this setup. Right. So this is like Mr. Beast for Squirrels. It's, oh, yeah, look, these guys just get.

Oh, God. It's totally Mr. Bees for squirrels. Like, you have them do all these obstacle courses. They stick their heads through. and then they get a photo taken. All right, we'll link to that. People, you have to watch this video. Backyard Squirrel Mays 1.0 by Mark Rober.

Dude, this is... R-O-B-E-R. 144 million views. See, this is the kind of shit where I'm like, I should have come up with this idea. Like, this is too good. All right. Solid.

Hummingbirds and Cockerings. Yeah, we covered it all this time, people. Watch you. This is the random show. Brother, good to see you. Yeah, I can see you too, man. I'm glad you feeling better. And yeah, continue.

To be continued. All right, folks, we'll put everything in the show notes, Timed Up Blog slash podcast. Random show. It's going to be one of those. Search for Cockerangs. It'll be the only result on Timbop blog. And until next time, take care of yourselves. Be nice.

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