The Tim Ferriss Show - Ep 49: Tim Answers Your 10 Most Popular Questions
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which for those interested, Foxcatcher. I am a lifelong wrestler. I'm very fascinated by the
entire saga. I don't remember when it happened related to, well, Mr. DuPont and everything else. I shall not spoil the story for those of
you who don't know it. Uh, but I expect it to be very, very exciting and at the end, very sad.
Okay. Now question number one, this is from Matt. I think it's Coughlin in Costa Rica.
If you were to write the four hour work week 2.0 for 2014,
what would you change or update from the original version? Are there new tools,
technology, business models, or ideas that would make it more adaptable to today's realities?
So there are a few things I would say to this. The first is yes, there are definitely tools and
tactics that are new, new technologies, new sites that could range from say Unbounce. I think it's
just unbounce.com for quickly designing landing pages for testing things, different offers, et cetera.
Uh, tools like optimizely or, uh, uh, visual website optimizer. Those are both, uh, two
competitors who allow you to do very fast split testing of various different things. Uh, I used
visual website optimizer for all of my most recent email capture
testing. Then you have things like Kickstarter. So if you look at the Shopify build a business
competitions, and you can see a bunch of them just by going to shopify.com forward slash Tim,
you'll notice that many of the winners used Kickstarter to fundraise, but also acquire
customers very, very cheaply. And, uh, I would give examples of people
who've used Kickstarter, for instance, as opposed to traditional financing or bootstrapping. Uh,
there are then sites like VHX. I think it might just be VHX.tv. If it's not that it's VHX.net
for selling video content directly to fans or would be fans. And what I've realized since the four hour work
week came out is that there are many use cases and implementations I couldn't have predicted.
And that ranges from a Superbowl actors. I kid you not, uh, who have used the four hour work
week to completely turn the rules of acting upside down to lawyers, to hedge fund managers,
to nonprofits, uh, to families of five who
are traveling around the world and making more than I could ever imagine. They're really,
really incredible. So yes, the tools do change with time. It doesn't take a lot of effort to
figure out what those new tools are. I shall probably do an updated version, a 10th anniversary edition, believe it
or not. Jesus, oh man, getting old. And the other thing is I'm considering doing an entire book of
case studies, basically a choose your own adventure guide to real world examples of people doing
amazing things after reading the four hour work week. If you have a fun story to tell, if you have
a company you've built, a muse you've
built, and you would like me to consider it for the book, please go to fourhourworkweek.com
forward slash success. Okay. So fourhourworkweek.com all spelled out forward slash success.
There's a form you can submit stuff. I don't know exactly what the timeline is on this,
but it's very likely that I'm going to do a book. So bonus points to
people who submit soon. Now, as a second side note, I would just say the four hour work week
is really about timeless principles. It's not about the shiniest latest gadget or testing
mechanism. It is about first principles and 99% of it is the same today as it was in 2007 when it was originally
written as it would have been say, uh, close to the birth of Christ with Seneca and the Stoics
in Roman times. The, the principles of effective behavior really do not change all that much.
Uh, so there you have it.
All right, next question.
What is the main communication technique that you use to network with people of higher status, especially before you had success?
And unfortunately, this gentleman's name was cut off by the printer.
I apologize for that.
The answer is volunteering and writing. So when I first moved to Silicon Valley, I volunteered with a group called the Silicon Valley Association of Startup Entrepreneurs, svase.org.
And volunteered.
And it's amazing to me how many people who volunteer do a shitty job because they're not getting paid.
And that is not how you have good opportunities presented to you.
I arrived here, didn't know a soul. I was
driving a hand-me-down minivan that the seats had been stolen out of, at least the back seats. It was
really ridiculous and embarrassing. But that is to say, I was starting from ground zero,
just like everybody does. And I volunteered. I worked at the front desk. I did way more than I
was asked to do. And as a result, I was given more responsibility. I was viewed as more responsible and therefore became more important to the organization.
And over time, and this didn't take a very long time at all, they did weekly events practically
over the span of two or three months, got to the point where I was able to volunteer
to run an entire major event.
And what that meant was I was able to reach out. I was able to decide on the
subject matter for a panel and invite all of the people I dreamed of meeting. So that included
everyone from Jack Canfield, co-creator of Chicken Soup for the Soul, who of course later became very
influential and helped me to find my book agent who then sold the four-hour work week. And I'm
still in touch with Jack after all these years. To Ed bird, Mr. Creatine, he helped to develop creatine, the creator of the
pet rock, uh, the founder of cliff bar, uh, who wasn't able to, to come, I think for health
reasons and send someone in his place, trip Hawkins, co-founder of electronic arts. And I
was the point person I got to communicate with all of these people. And I was the point person. I got to communicate with all of these people and
I am still in touch with many of them. All right. So volunteering is a lateral move that can allow
you to really get in touch with people way above your pay grade. And the other is writing. All
right. So if you're a good writer, you can do interviews for respectable publications and use that as a foot in the door to have contact with people
who you aspire to get to know or emulate in some fashion. Pro tip, don't ask them for a favor
right after interviewing them or something like that. Develop a real human relationship with them
and take your time. Play the long game. That is advice I would give you. Gary Vaynerchuk would give you many others
would don't try to hump their leg on the first date. Okay. Next question. And I might not make
it 10, but I'll make it to as many as I can before I have to grab an Uber and scoot out the door.
All right. Next question. This is Ryan Fisk. And the question is roughly what technique do you use
to focus on one idea long enough to bring it
to fruition? Or if you prefer, what techniques do you use to avoid distraction while working on an
idea? Uh, really, you know, it comes down to a handful of things and I could tell you,
here is a tactic. Again, I want to prefer, I want to focus on principles whenever possible because they're flexible and
adaptable and they don't change the latest techniques, websites, et cetera. They're
constantly shifting and it's a war of attrition against yourself. It's very fatiguing, but
there are certain approaches like the Palmer, the Palmodoro technique where you focus for say 45
minutes, or I like to do it for even shorter, like 22 or 23 minutes, and then take a
five minute break. So it's a 20 some odd minute sprint with a five minute break. I like to use
that. I could also point to morning rituals. I think that really specking out the first 60 minutes
of your day and basically having so that it is scripted. Someone else could take your morning routine and execute it like an actor
who's winning an Oscar, imitating you to a tee, right? You should not burn any calories,
making decisions about what you're going to have for breakfast, about what you're going to do 10,
15 minutes after you wake up, it should be scripted to optimize your mental state for
the rest of the day. And, uh, you want to conserve your decision-making. So the five-minute
journal, this is actually a muse. It was created by a few folks who read the four-hour workweek,
but the five-minute journal, it's a hardcover book. And you do a few types of journaling first
thing in the morning for five minutes or less, identifying your priorities, what you're grateful
for, a handful of other things. It's very, very fast. And that helps to re-clarify your priorities, what you're grateful for, a handful of other things. It's very, very fast. And that helps to reclarify your priority, not multiple priorities, ideally for the day.
And last but not least, I think this is the most important thing. Why do people get distracted?
Why do they jump from project to project to project and quit thing after thing, after thing,
after thing? I think it's because primarily they
try to be realistic. And I talk about this in the four hour work week, but they aim for base hits.
So let's say they're making a $50,000 a year. They're like, all right, I'm going to aim to
make $60,000 a year. And you're not going to move mountains for that type of incremental change.
But if the goal instead is, and it's ideally not
totally financial, but it's to create a company that makes, again, I'm just using numbers because
it's easy, a million dollars a year, it's hard to fail completely. And that's something I think
it's Larry Page says, when you aim high enough, it's hard to fail completely. And you need a goal that will keep you enthusiastic and excited through all of the
trials and tribulations and obstacles that pop up. And whether your goal is small or your goal is
huge, you will face obstacles. And if your dream is uninspiring, you will quit. And I think
primarily that is the cause that I would point to for people repeatedly quitting things.
Their things aren't interesting enough.
So there's a great book called The Magic of Thinking Big by David Schwartz.
It was recommended to me by one of the top product inventors in the United States.
He's made millions of dollars.
That book was recommended to him by Fortune 500 CEOs.
Grab The Magic of Thinking Big, read, choose, choose sexy, exciting goals,
or you will quit forever. All right. Next question. Uh, regardless of industry,
what is a trend you see developing that you think most people are missing? I'll try to keep this
short. This is from Malcolm in DC. Uh, the trend that I think a lot of people miss and this
speculation on my part, but I think it's informed speculation, is the contraction and contamination of cycles.
What does that mean?
Well, if we look at even the stock market, I think that what we will see, and there are inevitable short and long-term cycles, whether it be with energy and therefore influencing commodity trading or,
uh, equity cycles of various types. And you can talk to all sorts of people who would get into
Fibonacci sequences and so on and so forth. But, uh, I think that the impact of social media and
instantaneous dissemination and, uh, in a way sort of viral passing of information is underestimated for its impact on contracting
cycles. So if you have, say, a historically seven-year cycle, because both exuberant,
irrational optimism, euphoria can spread around the world at sort of the snap of the fingers for
some crazy dog video. It's also
true with misinformation or information related to say, uh, stocks that IPO, whether it's Alibaba
or anything else, right? And I'm not saying Alibaba is, is, is, uh, overpriced. I'm, uh,
actually I hold Alibaba, but the, I think that those seven-year cycles could become five or even three-year cycles or less.
And similarly, it could turn out that the recovery periods are shorter.
Now, there are many, many, many factors that go into this, but I think that there are people
out there, macro hedge fund managers and so on, who are really good at considering many,
many, many, many different factors that contribute to shifts in the markets. But one that is, I think, understudied and
undervalued is the contraction, the acceleration of the ups and downs due to social media and other
technologies of that type. And when I say the contamination of the cycles, I mean that
it is, if things were interrelated before and there were unintended consequences of events,
right? Whether it's someone, let's say a terrorist blowing up an oil field in Nigeria or
quantitative easing or a sovereign debt crisis in Europe, the impact of those events that might
seem removed from your life, your day-to-day life, is I think going to be, I think the world
increasingly represents a house of cards. And previously, you could have pulled out one of
those cards and the entire thing would have held together. But again, because of the contamination of these cycles and how sort of pervasive
and promiscuous information is, I think that that is increasingly less so. Okay. Long enough.
Next one. What is the one thing you have to absolutely do every day, no matter what your
schedule is? This is Vic Dulot, Toronto, Canada. A couple of things. Meditate in the morning. I try to do that
as soon as I wake up or I'm not going to do it. Transcendental meditation is what I use,
but you could check out guided meditations by a woman named Tara Brock. I think that's how you
say her last name. So it's Tara B-R-A-C-H. And my interview that I did with Maria Popova, Brain Pickings, goes into this.
If you want to hear more about that, you could. But guided meditation is a good place to start.
And then at the end of the night, I try to bookend my day with activities in the beginning and at the end.
So in the beginning, it's to sort of set the state for the rest of the day, a calm efficiency and effectiveness. And at the end, it's to sort
of wind down and de-stress and decompress from the day. So I tend to do very hot baths with Epsom
salts and I'll read something oftentimes in the bath that is not nonfiction. So I'm actually
reading, I think it's Naomi Shehab Nye, N-Y-E, poetry. And I am not a poetry reader, but I'm reading this
specifically to shut down my problem solving mechanism in my head so that I don't have
insomnia. All right, here we go. Next question. This is Ronald Yao from New York City.
What routines or hacks do you perform to be in a state of flow? All right. This is a good question.
Now I will say, I've thought about this a lot recently and I don't really like the phrase
state of flow or the term flow. I think it's very overused right now. And as a result,
underdefined, uh, it's, it's lost a lot of meaning. So I would like to
change the phrasing of the question to
what routines or hacks do you perform to achieve effortless output? So flow to me,
it means effortless output, whether it's when you're drawing and suddenly before you, this
amazing piece of art is created that seemingly comes from outside of you. It is an effortless
output or in writing or in negotiating flawlessly,
effortless output. All right. I'll come back to routine. The first 60 minutes of your day
should be robotic. It should be slow. It should be unrushed and it should be scripted. All right.
So decide what the sequence of events is. If you had to give someone a word document
to imitate your day perfectly,
the first 60 minutes, what would it look like? And there are other things that contribute biochemically, for instance, intravenous glutathione or even liposomal glutathione.
For me, it kind of lights me up a little bit. And there are different types of tea,
like yerba mate with three different stimulants or so with different pharmacokinetic profiles, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The last thing, uh, which is, is not the last in importance
is exercise. All right. So very simply. And the, and the answer, this is also the answer to, uh,
either Julie or Julio from the Netherlands who asked, how do you kick yourself in the butt out
of a lazy half depressive mindset into a productive and positive mindset, exercise, exercise, exercise. The brain is an organ. All right. So don't separate mind and body. If you
want to improve your mental performance, including, uh, neurogenesis and increasing brain drive,
neurotrophic factor, and all of these very physical biochemical or even physiological changes
exercise. So jump on a rower or a bike.
It can be a stationary bike for 10 to 20 minutes. That's plenty. When I'm in a funk, one of the
first things I'll do is jump into my garage. I have a concept two rower and I'll jump onto it
and I will literally row for only 500 meters. It's nothing, but it is enough to provide me with
an injection of neurotransmitters and, uh, also vasodilation and
in large muscle groups like the legs, it's enough to click me out of that funk. All right. So that
is also an important part of flow. I'm experimenting with motion, repetitive motion that is lateral.
So whether that's skiing or surfing, uh, something that, uh, gives me lateral awareness.
And this is true. Stephen Kotler's
talked about this in the rise of Superman in his experience with surfing very similarly,
which contributed to his recovery from Lyme disease, which I'm very interested in.
Okay. So let's keep going. The next one is if you ever get mentally overwhelmed by things you want to do,
how do you get, how do you get to say, okay, this year I want to concentrate on X this month. I want to focus on Y without feeling you're missing out on something else. Okay. This is a good question.
This is from Stefano in Italy slash the UK. So, uh, all right. How do you choose something to do
and focus on it without feeling you're missing out on
something else? I think the easiest way to address this is to recognize that you are missing out on
something else always when you make a decision. In fact, if you look at the etymology, I always
mix this up. Entomology, I think is insects. Etymology. If you look at the etymology of the word decision,
it's related to incision. Decision is to cut away. You're removing other options. And that's not a bad thing. And I think it was the Heath brothers who wrote Made to Stick, who wrote in one of their
more recent books. It's not about thinking outside of the box. You want to look for the right box, the right set of constraints
that will facilitate you achieving your different objectives. The point being,
there's always an opportunity cost. You choose to do anything. There are other things you are
therefore not simultaneously doing. And you have to be okay with that. And you should be okay with
that because that's reality until you learn how to clone yourself and teleport and so on.
That's the case.
So it's okay.
You don't have to do everything.
And you can do anything.
But if you want to choose the lead domino, this is how I choose.
This is how I think of my projects. I can work on a television show, executive producing a television show, which I did,
which was a very difficult process.
Or I can focus on a book, or I can focus on, say, collecting emails, or I can focus on
continually writing blog posts, which do return dividends, or I can focus on investing in
startups.
Which of those will facilitate all of the others.
So if each of those by themselves takes 10 units of energy and a year of time, I'm just making that
up, but 10 units of energy and a year of time, which one can I choose as the lead domino so that
when I knock it over, all of the other ones take less energy and less time. Does that make sense?
And for me, that was television.
I focused on television and co-produced and hosted this show called The Tim Ferriss Experiment.
And many of you know that the division that produced that at Turner Broadcasting got shut
down.
So it's sitting on a shelf.
So here's the point.
I chose to go after that lead domino and it didn't work out as of now.
I'm working on solving that problem.
But do I regret having made that decision?
No.
And this is another important thing is that you shouldn't judge your success based on
outcomes by themselves.
Because you can, for instance, go into the stock market, behave very, very badly and dangerously and have
a fluke outcome that's really good. And you don't want to reward that. You don't want to think that
you're suddenly a stock market genius because you got lucky. You want to focus on good process,
whether or not you have good outcomes or bad outcomes, because there are things outside of
your control. So for me, I don't regret having done the TV, even though I spent a year, year and a half almost exclusively on it. And there were a lot
of opportunity costs that cost me millions of dollars not to focus on other things. And I don't
regret it because it was the right lead domino. The another way to think about it is which of
these problems are really problems. In other words, if you're sitting in a car, metaphorically, and you have a flat tire or a rapidly deflating tire, let's pretend it's the winter, the
defroster doesn't work. So the windshield is fogging up and you have a broken driver's side
mirror. Okay. What should you focus on? If you're very constrained with time, you're in a rush,
you don't have a lot of resources, you're by constrained with time, you're in a rush, you don't have a lot of
resources. You're by yourself. What should you focus on? Well, what I would say is, do you need
to fix the mirror? Do you need to fix the defroster? Do you need to fix the flat tire?
Can you, can you address the, because keep in mind the problem isn't that the defroster is broken.
The problem is that the windshield is fogging up. So yes, you can fix that. You can open up the windows, for instance, broken mirror on the left. Is that
the problem? No spotting other cars and so on behind you is the goal. Can you achieve that
another way? Sure. You can tweak the, the remaining mirrors in the car to pull that off,
or you can do the, uh, do the grandparent thing and like look behind yourself
and glance at the window. You can do that. All right. So that's a solvable problem.
The most terminal problem, if not addressed as the flat tire. So that's where you should focus
your time. All right. Uh, next one, what elements from the four hour body are still important to
your daily regimen? What does your workout currently look like? All right. So right now
I'm recovering from Lyme disease. I have ligament tears in my elbows, my hips, my knees, it's fucking terrible.
But there are a few things I'm focusing on repopulating my microbiome. And I talk about this
in the four hour body quite extensively. And that means I'm avoiding things like Splenda
that disrupt gut bacteria, for instance, and artificial sweeteners. I am
also doing micronutrient testing as outlined in the 4-Hour Body. So I've identified that I have
very low vitamin D, which can be thought of as a hormone in a lot of ways. I have
low levels of a few B vitamins. So I'm consuming N-acetylcysteine with L-methylfolate because I'm
genetically predisposed to being a bad
methylator. I don't have time right now to go into what that means, but,
and I'm consuming the fermented cod liver and grass-fed butter pills that I recommend
in the four-hour body as well. So there's really nothing that comes to mind that I would
change necessarily in the four hour body, other than putting in case studies for every chapter,
because readers have outperformed me and outdone me in every single chapter in the book. It's,
it's been awesome because my goal is to create readers who are better than I am at everything
I discuss. Uh, otherwise what's the point? You're
just making the world worse over time. So I'm trying to create students who are, who surpass
their teacher, uh, as quickly as possible. I want to make myself, uh, obsolete as quickly as
possible, which is why I don't like the term guru when the media uses that applied to me. Cause,
uh, barf. Um, last thing I want is people to be dependent on me. That would be the antithesis of what I'm going for. So there are the supplements is for exercise.
Um, I'm focusing on mobility primarily because I cannot focus on a high degree of strength
training with heavy weights, for instance, or sub mat, even sub maximal weights, uh, because
my elbows are so painful at the moment. And I have such
sort of tendinopathy and neuropathy that I can't really bend my arms. I can't, I can't experience
flexion at the elbow while holding onto weights. It sucks really badly, but doing swimming,
calisthenics, you can think of yoga without the, all the kind of mystical woo woo stuff
and, and breathing exercises while I'm doing these calisthenics,
which tend to focus on thoracic spine mobility and hips.
So squatting motions, hip hinges, without a kettlebell though.
So I'm just doing sort of deadlifting like hip hinging.
Okay, that's that. And then, uh, the last question that I'm going to have time to answer
is, uh, how do you balance your desire to challenge and improve yourself with enjoying,
let's see, indulgences provided by a successful life. I think that's it. And I apologize. The
name got cut off on this one as well. You know, for me, it's, it's, it's pretty simple. I've, I've realized that money is a currency and you can use it as wampum to trade for possessions
or experiences and all things equal. It's better to have more money than less, of course, but I
have a very low burn rate in my life. And I think that's correlated to a high degree of control over
my time. When you have more control
over your time, you don't have to compete with the Joneses, with your friends who are investment
bankers or management consultants to buy the nice car. Because with time, you can produce experiences
that have the benefit of allowing you to learn things, but that also provide you a huge advantage over possessions.
And that is the anticipation of experiences. For instance, I'm taking my entire family on an
international trip for Christmas. And the anticipation has made this gift incredibly
valuable and exciting in months preceding the actual delivery of said experience. Right. So I I've realized since I'm, I don't have to compete
in say my off hours on the weekend to show my friends, my new toys, because I'm otherwise
consumed with 80 hour work weeks, uh, doing something I dislike. And as a result, you know,
I have, I still drive a used golf Volkswagen golf that I bought in 2004 and the antenna was ripped
off by a homeless guy. And I don't care because I don't listen to the radio much anyway and whatever. Um, and that's
not to say that I'm a holier than thou aesthetic. Uh, I do enjoy certain things, so I don't have a
ton of expensive habits, but for instance, I love Japan. I'm a Japanophile. I've spent a ton of time
there. So I have Japanese armor in my house. I have a couple of Japanese saddles from the 1800s or even perhaps earlier,
1700s probably, that are worth more than my car because I have a history with something called
yabusame, Japanese horseback archery. And if you search my name and yabusame, Y-A-B-U-S-A-M-E,
you can see video of me learning to do Japanese horseback archery.
It is really dangerous and insane. I don't recommend it. So luxury to me is not owning a
lot of stuff. Luxury to me is feeling unrushed. It is designing a life that allows you to do
what you want with high leverage, with many options, feeling unrushed. So I will end on that.
I'm going to go head to the movie. Speaking of being unrushed, do you have to kind of,
kind of, uh, shimmy or I'm going to get chastised by my friends. So I'll let you get going. Uh,
let me know what you think of this format. If you'd like these questions, me answering your
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