The Toast - 7 Years of Pargiliciousness: Wednesday, April 9th, 2025

Episode Date: April 9, 2025

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Good morning, girlies, it's the Toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy hump day. Hey. Speaking of humping, only one girl comes to mind. Why thank you, Coachers. Wojers, Caroline Wojniacki.

Follet, come on Jacqueline. I know today you're Caroline Wojniacki and I'm still Follet. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's like the more things change, the more they stay the same. The more your name changes, the more mine stays the same. I mean, if you could start like larping your own nickname,

I'm sorry, I'm not good with nicknames. You're lucky I came up with Follet. I need a friend named Jackie and to see what I could do for her. I would love to know where you'd end up with a friend named Jackie. I could never even imagine the places. The places it would take you. Oh, the places you'll go. Cojourners Truth.

Someone left the funniest comment on our Instagram yesterday saying, we'll know that Claudia lost her mucus plug when the title of the episode is, "'Plojurner's Truth'." And until that day. It will be a quiet, boring day around here. Correct. How's your MP doing? Still intact as far as I know. And even though it's like still really early,

I'm like really wiping like with a lot of intent. Do you know what I mean? Which I feel like is good at this point in pregnancy. It's important to know what's going on down there. Headed to the doctor today, gonna see if the baby's flipped, I can tell you he definitely hasn't. Oh, we're rooting for you. And I scheduled it very nicely,

because if he hasn't flipped, which I'm pretty sure he hasn't, tomorrow I start my journey in the Eastern medicine at the Software Longevity Institute of Technology. I have my first acupuncture appointment tomorrow. Oh, keep us posted. I feel like you wouldn't know if he flipped. Sound off in the comments, even though we'll know later. I've done some research.

There's like conflicting reports. Some people feel it, some people don't. But like, are you still feeling kicks in your cooter? Yeah, but I'm also feeling kicks everywhere. Well, they could be punches. Yeah, right, right, right. Well, Rocky. I also had physical therapy yesterday

where we did some exercises and such. By the way, her baby right. No, Rocky. I also had physical therapy yesterday where we did some exercises and such. By the way, her baby's name is not Rocky. I could see people being like, Jackie spilled the beans. No, my baby's name is Bowie. Everybody knows that. No, but I was just saying, Rocky, what's his name? Rocky Balboa. Okay, it's Balboa.

I don't know why I got nervous that it wasn't. Right? Sylvester Stallone. It was a sly. It was a sly reference of Sly. Yeah, I got it. Thank you. No, the baby thing is Bowie.

When I think of like famous boxers. Who do you think of? Cinderella Man? Probably Manny Pacquiao. That's a good one. That's cause I'm not like other girls. Connor McGregor. Or Jake Paul. Is he a boxer?

Who? Connor McGregor. Yeah. I think he's a fighter. Well, you know, then we're getting into the MMA. Do you use your bare hands? Are you bare handed? That's really nutty. That's like Joe Rogan.

Joe Rogan does bare handed. He does commentary for MMA and that's bare handed. Really? Yeah, where they like tuck into each other and hug the bare handed. Really? Yeah, where they like tuck into each other and hug the whole time. I will seriously, yeah right, where they're like actually humping each other, perfect for hump day.

I will genuinely never understand the difference between like, I actually, the only one I can differentiate is WWE. That's like fake, kids love it, no one's actually getting hurt, total Bellas. WWE, UFC, MMA, like I don't understand the difference, but I know UFC is like- Is MMA.

No. Well, Joe Rogan does commentary for UFC, but it's, they're not doing martial arts up there. They're not a bunch of artists. No, we could definitely Google this, but I feel like I'm having fun in the unknown, you know? Yeah, and it's not yourane to my life to know this. It's not.

Maybe like once a year when there's a fight on that has some sort of celebrity connection, like when Jake Paul does it, or Tommy Fury. Or Logan Paul. Right, Logan too. Did you see actually that their HBO Max reality show like has debuted? No, I actually just went to write,

I was thinking there's something I actually just went to write. I was thinking there's something I wanted to add to my content plate that I know I'm gonna watch and I couldn't remember, but I realize now it's Paul American, but I don't have my pen. Well, I can tell you the clips that I've seen, like everybody's talking about this one particular storyline between Logan and Nina, where it's her birthday,

and he ends up getting her like a crocodile Birkin, which is like, oh my God, but it's the day of her birthday and he like forgot to get her a gift. And she's like, did you get me a present? And he was like, yeah, and he like lies to her. So it's like actually not romantic at all. The bag is sick and he overspends because he seriously had like an hour in New York

to go get a gift from like this fancy vintage shop. I mean, that's a classic case. And you can forget about my birthday if at the end of the day, I'm gonna have a crocodile Birkin. I just wanna let you know that's okay. I know, it was like kind of sad though. I feel like up until this point,

I've known nothing about Nina and Paul Kamelogen. Kamelogen. As like a couple. And I've just always felt I'm like, everything people think about them like is wrong. Like they're really like, and he's a changed man. And like some of the clips I was seeing, I'm like, oh no, that's exactly what I thought you were.

Oh, that's funny. I'll have to watch it to judge it on my own, but I stand by what I said. You can forget my gift if by the end of the day I have a crocodile burkin. We're squared away. Yeah, I guess that's fair. You feel the same?

Yeah, because at the end of the day, the material items matter more than being thought of. Material items last forever. But it was definitely sad to watch. Because she was like, oh my God, you did get me a present you always forgot. So did she not know until the episode airs that he actually had it?

I'm not sure at what point he told her the truth, whether it was with the audience or maybe the next day, but she got a Birkin. So we all have to come to Birkins in our own ways. You know? All's well that ends well. It's true, Dorit had to jump off a boat. But all's well that ends with a Birkin.

A crocodile one, nonetheless. Right, right. And I'm thinking, how did he get a Birkin in a day? Does he have that much pull at Hermes? But no, he went to a vintage shop. So he overpaid. No, he went to like a, like, it was like this very kind of a collector's item,

kind of like a Hamish or Schlummer type of store. Oh, like that place that has all the Birkins that we always walk past. Yeah, like that antique. It's like an auction house. Yeah, he went to like a fancy, but it was like, no, it was like a classic Instagram guy. Do you know what I mean?

Like, oh, like what goes around comes around. Kind of. He had like a private showroom. He was actually Jewish. He was religious. His name was like Yossi or something. Got to connect with Yossi. Got to connect.

You know? Maybe once a few a deal. Right. So it's Wednesday. We have stories. We did have a Real Housewife of Beverly Hills recap until I found out that Jackie didn't watch. And let me tell you, like you guys are missing nothing.

It was really giving part two, you know? Yeah, and because there's a part three, like we won't miss, you know, recapping the whole season. I feel like my reason for not watching like is as beautiful as a reason could be, which is that Harry was in my bed all night cause he didn't want to go to his. And so I couldn't turn my TV on.

Oopsie. I'm so jealous. I'm so jealous. Oopsie. And I knew you would understand. Of course. And I will accept my payment cause I did so jealous. I'm so jealous. Oopsie. And I knew you would understand. Of course. And I will accept my payment because I did watch it. And if I knew that I didn't have to,

I wouldn't have suffered through it. But the payment was a picture of Harry in your bed. And you know what? The check cleared. We are square. Okay. Thanks so much. And I was also- And you truly missed nothing.

Like they had Jennifer Tilly on. Okay. Which like, I like her. And actually I like her even more after her time on the reunion. But like she, talk about not needing to be at a reunion. She had no drama to like answer to. So they pulled this like one random thing she said

on like a Bravo digital web after show. And it was just basically saying that she was shocked to hear that PK is staying at the Beverly Hills Hotel because it's really expensive. I mean, that is surprising. Yeah, of course, but that's her big drama. She had to apologize. It was so stupid.

But what I didn't know is that she's a huge Housewives fan. Like a super fan. And she's talking about the differences of watching it versus being a part of it. It wasn't that interesting. Okay, I know I would enjoy it. It just, I'll have to catch up. And then tonight we shall watch Summer House.

We shall tonight watch Summer House. So that will be good. The recaps will be back tomorrow. Tomorrow. And is Southern Charm over? It's done. I never gave you guys a final recap. But I did catch up by Jack Self. So we get our Fridays back. What should we do with all of our free time? Well, the Valley starts to premiere soon.

I don't know what night that will be on. Oh, okay. I think there's actually like stuff coming up. So we're in our TV recap season for sure. 1000%. So that's exciting. What else can I tell you before we are forced to talk about others?

Did you see I made a naysay last night? I saw that you made a naysay last night. And I was like, I got left home alone. Ben went out to dinner with his parents. I'm eating like shitty leftovers. I'm sure you were invited. I was, of course. And I planned to go, but at four o'clock,

like I just dropped out. Like I was seriously not okay. And like, to be honest, if I felt the way that I felt and they were going to like McDonald's, I would have went. But the restaurant they were going to, like I knew I couldn't really be fat at. It was Greek. And it's, you know, you know, I hate Avra. Like the restaurant they were going to, like I knew I couldn't really be fat at, it was Greek. And it's, you know, I hate Avra.

Like even though it's so good, it's a beautiful restaurant. Everyone loves Avra. It's just like, I don't like Greek food. I can't really be like indulgent. It's just like salmon for you. So Ben, right. Ben was like, you know, let me know if you want to come, if you're feeling well.

He was like very understanding. Where did they go? Avra. Oh my God. So I was like, I wanted to go, but like the idea that I would like suffer, cause just being out of the house after four o'clock is suffering for me,

and I wouldn't even get like a big fat juicy meal. It wasn't enough to take the risk, and I would be in this uncomfortable chair. No, the idea of going to a restaurant and not like gorging and really eating, like I'm there to eat now. So if it's not about that, if you're not about that, I'd rather stay home.

And then when Ben got home, so late by the way, he was like, no, it's so much better that you didn't come. I was like, okay. Rude. He was just at the best time. Also his sister couldn't come because she was sick and she didn't wanna get me sick. She didn't wanna get Ben's parents sick.

So it just ended up being, it was supposed to be celebrating like a little belated Ben's birthday because he hadn't seen his family for his birthday. Oh, so he had like an only child night. Yeah, he had an only child night, they like had cocktails. He was like, we just had the best time. He like was being kind of annoying.

I don't know if he was like trying to make me like jealous. It was kind of working. That's really funny. He was like, it was just amazing. My parents are the best. And I was like, yeah, yeah. He was like, I'm like, was it like, like sorry that I didn't come.

He said, no, like it's fine. Like- No, I feel like he wanted to be alone with his parents and be like babied for the night. A thousand percent. And you know me like- That's a good feeling. When I hit like a time where I need to go,

I'm like, we have to go. Yeah, but they're kiki-ing. They're kiki-ing, they had cocktails. So it was better, but he just kept saying like, it's actually better that you didn't come. Okay. Oh, he said like his father, repeating the nasty comments twice.

Yes, repeating hurtful things twice. Not even twice, like four times. I was like, okay. So what did you eat for dinner? I had leftover tacos, which were still good. But then I was tapping through your Instagram story. I'm like, oh, she's having homemade wares and I'm eating like seriously out of a Tupperware.

I know, but sometimes I feel that way tapping through your guises, where like Ben's making something parch and we're having frozen chicken nuggets. Comparison is the thief of joy. It's true. But I did have a lovely naze shout out, Ina, last night. You did inspire me to watch Ina,

which is what I watched while I ate my leftover tacos. That's so funny. I watched Ina in my first pregnancy as well. There's just something, even though I- She's the vibe. If you watch too much of anything, you'll start to hate. And so I am starting to hate Ina in my first pregnancy as well. There's just something even though I- She's the vibe. If you watch too much of anything, you'll start to hate. And so I am starting to hate Ina. And I noticed like her little flaws,

like she actually doesn't try her own food, except last night she made her signature chocolate chip cookies and they looked so good. And she ate the whole thing. So I'm like, oh, so you do eat, but she doesn't eat any of her other shit. Interesting. Last night I actually, I never like try

what I've made before I put it out to see if it needs anything, because I followed the recipe. So like, there you go. Why would it need something? But I had a feeling, her recipe called for a lot of wine. Like she's really crazy.

So I was like, did all this shit cook down? Right, and if you're serving your kids, you gotta make sure there's not like alcohol content. Right, or it would just taste bad. So I did try. Everyone knows, like, I mean, is this a rite of passage where like you make a dish with alcohol and it doesn't properly cook off?

Like I've literally gotten drunk off of Penne Alavodka that I made once. That hasn't happened to me once, but like it's very acidic and I used half and half and a half of heavy cream. So I was like, let me just try it and make sure it's like fine. And it wasn't. And then I was Googling like and a half of heavy cream. So I was like, let me just try it and make sure it's like fine. And it wasn't.

And then I was Googling like how to make it less acidic. I don't have any more cream and Gemini. I can't cook without Gemini. Gemini is my sous chef. They were like- And what did they say? Either you could do a little baking soda, you could do a little sugar or you could do some butter.

So I did a sprinkle of sugar and some butter, parch. Wow. Thanks Gemini. It's literally science. Like every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction. It's true. A little NACL.

It's beautiful, very lessons in chemistry. A little NACL. I love that. We gotta talk more about the periodic table. We do. You know, cause I'm feeling like Borium. You are Borium. Yeah. And I feel like we're not talking enough about potassium, like Boreum. You are Boreum. Yeah, and I feel like we're not talking enough

about potassium, like as a society. Yeah, but I do think, honey, I shrunk the kids, like did great things for the stock of potassium. Yeah, yeah, 100%, everybody knows. You can get it from a banana. Everybody knows that. 100%. And it's like, even though kids today don't watch that movie,

they know from their parents. Yes, right, it's like, even though kids today don't watch that movie, they know from their parents. Yes, right. It's generational. It's La Dor Vador. From generation. La Dor Vador. From generation to generation. Terri, that's beautiful.

And speaking of La Dor Vador, Passover's coming up. How are you feeling about the hog? I'm feeling nervous. So for any of our listeners who are either new or don't know some of the rules of Passover, it's a beautiful time. It's a great holiday, but it is like 10 days where you're not supposed to eat any leavened.

Is it? We argue about this every year. It feels like a hundred. That's why I was, I almost said three weeks. Like that's what it feels like. It's a certain period of time where, you know, out of respect for what our ancestors went through, being kicked out of Egypt

before their bread had time to rise, you're not supposed to eat anything leavened. So that's pretty much all carbs, all bread, anything like, you know, with gluten in it. Yeah. Ugh, let me tell you, that shit is so hard. And I think in like the last couple of years, I've had an easier time,

because I've been like dieting and on Ozempic, so I just have like less cravings. Any food restrictions haven't been such a big deal for me. But I, there must be like a prenatal mahluket where you don't have to, the idea of not eating bread. I will die. I will die. Like there's no way.

And I feel like Passover doesn't get what it deserves. Cause like we have Yom Kippur, which is really hard. And like Passover- We need more hate for Passover. Yeah, like it's not my favorite. No, and in no way is it even close to how bad Yum Kee Por is. You can eat as much as you want whenever you want.

It just can't, you can't eat certain, it's a gluten-free diet. Yum Kee Por is like a full fast day, it's horrible. And over the course of Passover, you find yourself leaning on things like potatoes, right? Potato chips. Potato chips. French fries.

Potatoes are not leavened. I mean. Fretrice. Potatoes are not leavened. So, I mean, potatoes are not bread. Potatoes are vegetable. Yeah, you think of them as like bread, but they're not. They're totally, it's totally safe. And in certain denominations of Judaism, like whether you're Syrian or, you know, my Moroccan side, they have different rules.

Like you can have rice in some communities, you can have corn. We're Ashkenaz, like we take it so seriously. We can't have anything. And I have to look, maybe I'll chat with the rabbi. I need to get some sort of exemption. It's so unfathomable that I would go eight days without having any carbs or bread.

Yeah, I think you're exempt. Yeah, but you know, Ben is like a little like, he's like judging, you know. About Passover? Yeah, something about Passover. Maybe he just like always looks forward to, he's always trying to diet and like a little like, he's like judging, you know. About Passover? Yeah, something about Passover. Maybe he just like always looks forward to, he's always trying to diet and like he can't, but this is like from God, it's divine.

And he's like a little, he's like, well, you know that soda has corn syrup in it. I'm like, oh, fuck off. Yeah, for real. And also in lieu of bread, like you can have matzah, which is, could be tasty. Which I think as a pregnant person, it actually is like unsafe for me to eat matzah.

It's a real binder and I'm already like not having like the most amazing digestion. And I just don't think like stocking up. And it's like, yes. Correct. I don't think stocking up on matzah is like good for me or the baby and that I'm actually being serious about. I think you should listen to your body.

And I think that's what the rabbis would say. I think the rabbis would say that too. That's like how they talk. Listen to your body, coaches. Your body. Okay, well I'm listening and I'm learning. Yeah, so that starts this weekend. The satyrs are Saturday and Sunday night,

which means no days off from work. Yeah, what a such a great year. No, Passover definitely deserves hate this year. I agree. Sorry, we don't make the rules. Yeah, but I ordered some, did you see the matzo that I ordered? I did, it actually looked delicious.

I ordered like pargy candy matzo on Gold Valley from like Big Fat Cookie. And it's making me excited for Passover because I'm not eating it until Passover. So now I'm like, is it Passover yet? You have something to look forward to. I would recommend it. That's one thing you can count on the Jews for.

Like we're gonna make it fat it fat no matter what it is. The recipes, matzah is just like, it's literally a plain cracker. I don't even know what it's made of, flour. It's bread ingredients, but it's bread that doesn't rise. So one thing about us, we're gonna find a way to make it fat. The common recipes like matzah pizza, matzah brie, it's chocolate covered matzah, matzah crack, brittle.

We make it so fat. So it's like a holiday where you actually could lose weight because you're not supposed to be eating bread, but we're not. Yeah. Also what's going to be hard for me is no pargy loaves. No sourdough. Like as much as I love eating sourdough,

I love making it too. It's the activity. It's part of my routine and just, you know, having a stock bread box. No, no, no, feeding my starter. I gotta put that starter away. Yeah, you do. And oh my.

Yeah, this is my first Pesach as a tradwife. So it's gonna be hard. Has it only been less than a year since you started making sourdough? I started making sourdough in about successfully in May of last year. So yeah. I just feel like it's been a part of our family

like since our inception. No, it's only been a year coming up on one year. That's really crazy. Yeah. Happy anniversary to me. Happy, oh wait, do you know today's toast anniversary? It's April 9th. Oh my gosh. I meant to talk to you about that.

I'm sorry, I meant to open the show with that. Oh my God, so it's our seventh year. Wait, honey, that's insane that we have not even. Is it our seventh year? Yeah, because last year was our big six and we made such a big deal. So it's our seventh year, our eighth season. But like our eighth year, if you include the breath.

And do we include the breath? We don't include the breath and I'm glad that we don't because like it's not ours to, I mean it's ours, but like toast is kumsa fresh. Okay, well happy toast anniversary to you and all who celebrate. Oh my God, how are you feeling today? Seven years of toast in the eighth season,

on the ninth season. I don't know. I feel like last year I was feeling like really at a glance about it. Yeah. And this year, it just feels like another day. But we made such a big deal about it last year. And I think maybe because we did that,

like I'm good for a few years, I'm making things a big deal. We have cute pictures, we had a big party at Zero Bond. We had like reels and TikToks and so many like- We went hard. Nostalgia themed episodes. And now it's just going by with a, with a-

When do you think we'll celebrate next? Like big party, 10? Of course we have to celebrate 10. Also, you know what they say that like, you change as a person every seven years. Now I don't know if that means you change at like one, eight, six, but that means in the time that we've done this show,

even if we were in the middle of our change four years, like we have changed at least once in the time that we've done this show. And I feel like that feels right. Do you? Yes, I think my change here was last year or whenever I quit the vape and got on Ozempic. Like that was the year I changed every part of who I am.

Yeah, I would say like in the last two, three years since becoming a mom, but also not immediately, but maybe in like the year after, that's when I change for the better. That's beautiful. I can't stop listening to Roscoe Flats. And I won't. Why would you stop?

And I don't need to. I haven't heard one good reason why. No, it's so true. So yeah, we're changed women. And if you're still here with us from what the other people that we were, we love you. And happy toast anniversary. Maybe sound off at the comments.

What's been your favorite toast moment in the last seven years? That's impossible to answer. You know that, right? I know, but we are running a bracket on our Instagram right now. Hopefully you guys have been participating in our toast madness.

Having people choose their favorite toast moments in toast-hurstory. I believe we're down to the final two as of yesterday. And it was, Claudia, I don't think there's a 5K. And when I took off my underwear, I had physical therapy. Oh my gosh, it's so funny that those are top two. I know, that's what people chose. We had people submit.

If you're not following us on Instagram, you're missing out on a lot of good fun and games. You guys know I love a game. Yeah, what's your favorite memory? I couldn't pick one, so don't ask me. Oh, I think any time where we've truly just not been able to stop laughing, like a belly laugh, where the episode is silent because we're laughing so hard,

those are my favorites. Not one specifically comes to mind, but any time we're just cackling hags, that's my favorite. Yeah. Yeah, it's been an amazing seven years. And I wouldn't wanna do it with anybody else. La da da da da da da da da da da da da. Yeah. Yeah. It's been amazing seven years. And I wouldn't want to do it with anybody else. La da da da da da da da da da da da.

With anybody, period. Yeah, anybody. Sometimes I forget you're here. Just want to do it alone. No, if I am forced to do it with someone, it could only be you. Which I think you are forced to do it with someone because- You guys know solo podcasting is not my strength.

And it's tough for really anyone. And the daily solo podcast, I don't think it's ever been done. Me neither. Even Joe Rogan has guests. Even Howard Stern. Every day. And Howard has Robin.

And guests. Yeah. So like if you have to have someone which you do. It could only be you. And I am so glad it is. And I'm so glad it's you, Turteloo. Well, I feel like sufficiently caught up, I feel like we've at a glance enough

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Thank you slash turt. It's getting hotter and hotter to breathe. Oh my God, wait, I watched The Voice last night. Oh, and? And it's actually crazy because I had watched The Voice. What was that, a couple of weeks ago? And I came on and said, like, I found the show insufferable

mostly because of Michael Buble and how this kid came on and did like a Frank Sinatra type of, and he was really good and Michael Buble didn't turn around because he was threatened. Jackie, what are the odds that I turned on an episode? The exact same thing happened. And what was even weirder was that

the dynamics of the coaches are very interesting. So this guy comes on, he has an amazing voice. He's doing, you know, somewhere beyond the sea. Not that song exactly, but like the vibe. And Kelsey really likes him. And Adam Levine is like, Kelsey, you should do it and block- Kelsie.

Ballerini. Is it judge? Yes, she's a judge. Adam Levine is too. And I feel like Adam Levine hates Michael Buble because he goes to Kelsey. He's like, Kelsey, cause she's going to press her button, block Michael Buble. You get one block.

And so Kelsey was like, no, he's not going to choose him. Like they know that he's so crazy. He doesn't choose him, but it turns out Michael Buble knows this guy. He follows him on social media. Cause they're like, you know, he, they, a lot of these shows, and a lot of these shows like take from social media. So they take people who have like a couple hundred thousand

followers posting singing covers. So this guy has like a little bit of an audience and a little bit of a career already. Michael Buble knows him, follows him and does, and when he gives his exit. He didn't turn for him knowing that he knew him. He said that he knew him like from his voice. Yeah.

So he turns around and he says the reason why he didn't choose him, he's always coming up with fake stupid reasons. The reason why he didn't choose him is because, you know, he's so close to the genre and he really wants people who sing the genre to be historically accurate with how they sing the songs. And I guess like the Frank Sinatra's of that time,

they didn't sing with vibrato. So vibrato is like when you hold a note and you kind of like shake it. So like, somewhere. And I guess like the guy was doing that. Okay, but he could just like stop doing that. Also Michael Blu, wait Jackie, Michael Blu gets on stage and is like, band, pick it up.

And he's like, and you should have done this. And he started, Jackie, like it was so, how anybody doesn't see, this man is such a crazy narcissist. And I'm telling you, Adam Levine and Kelsey Ballerini, like they're picking up on it. Like she knew, she's like, I'm not gonna waste my block. He doesn't choose people who actually threaten him. Yeah, who sound like him.

But also if you're gonna be historically accurate and be like copy and paste of the singer from the times. Like you're just an impersonator then. Like there are a lot of people out there who are really talented and like singing like Celine Dion or singing like, you know, when they can change their voices. But none of those people are famous singers

because we already have Celine Dion. No, they're famous impersonators. Yeah. Yeah, no, I completely agree. And he's just like, he's kind of like, he gate keeps the genre. Yeah, for sure. I can't stand him.

Damn. Yeah, hate. Well, our first story is some new TV news because Bravo has announced their new show called Next Gen NYC. It will be starring Gia Giudice, Riley Burris, Brooks Marks, and more Gen Zs in NYC chaos.

Also Ariana Bierman will be on the show. I actually saw a cast photo and I looked at everyone. I said, oh, like Gia's random friends, how sweet. I did not notice that any one of them was also a Bravo Nepo baby. So I did because there have been rumors about this show for a while. I think we knew. No, I know. And I was like So I did because there have been rumors about this show for a while. I think we knew. No, I know.

And I was like, there's, there have been where it's like, Gia and like a bunch of the Bravo kids are in the city. And I looked at the photo and I said, oh my God, who else is it? I was like, oh no, they just went with her random friends. But it was also confusing because half the cast is not Bravo Nepo babies. Like one, Amira, this girl I like from TikTok,

she's like a makeup TikToker, she's on it. So it's like a blend of Nepo, Bravos, but also just like NYC people. And I have to say, like Bravo does not do a good job of casting in New York City. It's just not something they succeed at. New York is filled with like interesting, wealthy people. And I feel like they're always missing the mark.

So it's too soon to tell, obviously, like we know what we know about Gia. I think Gia is actually a very good reality star. I think she's been making her mark on Jersey. She'll be good. I don't know that Brooke's marks like has what it takes. I love Ariana Beerman. I don't know that she has what it takes either.

Same with Riley. Like these are just kind of people who have been real background actors and I don't know if they know what it takes either. Same with Riley. Like these are just kind of people who have been real background actors. And I don't know if they know how to step into the light. Yeah, there have been rumors, not rumors, but just the idea floating around that like Gia could be on Summer House, which obviously she's not.

Oh. But like, I don't, I couldn't see it. You know, like I feel like, yeah, she's like- But Jackie, she's 21. What is she gonna be doing in a house with 47 year old Kyle Cook? I mean, but that's like- That's where Summer House gets weird. I know. No, no, but I'm just saying like- But Jackie, she's 21. What is she gonna be doing in a house with 47 year old Kyle Cook? I mean, but that's like- That's where Summer House gets weird, I know.

No, no, but I'm just saying, even like her, I just, maybe because we've only seen her as Teresa's daughter, and we're gonna see her step out in turn, I just couldn't see her clapping back at Lindsay Hubbard. I actually could. Of all, I think the cast in general, I couldn't see any of them really succeeding

on reality TV, except Gia, because she has stepped into more of just like a, more than adored her role in the last couple of years. She had beef with Melissa, she had beef with, she's had like on-camera spats. Like she's officially a cast member. Yeah, so here's who's on the show, Ariana Bierman. She's leaving Atlanta for the first time.

She's got her high school boyfriend with her. Can she translate her peach holding sensibilities to big city life? That's the other thing, I think a lot of these people don't actually live in New York. As far as I know, Ariana Bierman's back in Atlanta. Can she translate her peach holding sensibilities to big city life? That'll- That's the other thing. I think a lot of these people don't actually live in New York as far as I know, Ariana Bierman's back in Atlanta. So it's like, it's fake too.

Okay. I don't mind a little fake that like, I can stand that. Okay. What's marks I do believe lives in New York? Riley Burris. She is determined to make it on her own in the Big Apple as an NYU graduate. So she's a New Yorker now. Beam.

I heard the craziest thing about Kandi Burris. It's always so interesting to me because you forget that like beyond Housewives, she's like a deeply acclaimed music producer. Do you know Othello on Broadway? Everyone's talking about it. It's Denzel. Kandi is a producer.

Oh wow, Good for her. Like it's her show. She's just like really legit. She is also Riley Burris and Ariana Beerman are childhood friends from Atlanta and from both their moms being on the show. So that's a good, that's some good history. Then we have Ava Dash who is the daughter

of music mogul, Damon Dash and fashion icon, Rachel Roy. Now that's actually a good casting. That is a good casting. For whatever, I don't know what the show is supposed to be. Is it just like Rich Kids in New York? Is it Bravo Next Gen? I'm not sure what it is, but if it was a Rich Kids in, like Rich Kids of Beverly Hills at New York edition,

she's a great casting. Both of her parents are really famous and really rich. I think it's about like making it in New York, whether you're already, like you come from a successful family or whatever it is, just like the grind, which I think is a good premise. If you have, and all these people even,

we know who their parents are, but like, who are they? They have to be interesting and they have to bring it. Then we have Amira Despain. She- That's who I know, she's a TikToker. Okay, she is Paper Magazine's beauty director now. She is? Yeah.

I feel like that's like a title, you know, like. Yeah. Cause she's like a full-time really big TikToker. Okay. Well, she also has a corporate job. So that's cool. Wow. Then we have Shai Fruchter. He's a Jew.

He grew up between Israel and China before finally planting roots in New Jersey for high school. What? Yeah. Joining the circle of bold, connected and ambitious friends might be more than he bargained for. Gia, who of course we know. Of course.

Yep, she's on, she's a young adult who has put law school on pause and is ready to explore all that New York City has to offer. Well, I don't think she'll be going to law school after this. No, she also just launched a podcast. So. Right. So she's a podcaster. Then we have Brooks Marx, who is a fashion entrepreneur with dreams of making it big. Hudson McLaRoy. I think that's Ariana's boyfriend.

Oh, yeah. That's nice. She got her boyfriend cast on the show too. Yeah. And then Charlie Zocor who has been ruling the New York City club scene since he was 14. That's concerning. And now has transitioned into dominating the crypto and private investment world. That's also concerning, but that's very New York. So this show comes out in June and I think it's got a shot. Michio, I think it's better that it's not like a strictly Bravo Kids show. That's what I thought and I think that's what everyone thought it was gonna be. The fact that they expanded a little bit

just to be like a young New York show, kind of maybe an attempt to be what like Vannepump rules of the West Coast or Southern charm. I think that's good. But I don't know why New York, Bravo shows about New York like are not good. Yeah. Well, nothing.

Obviously the Real Housewives of New York. Right, NYC prep. The Real Housewives of New York reboot is not good. Yeah. Well, nothing. Obviously the Real Housewives of New York. Right, NYC prep. The Real Housewives of New York reboot is not good. Summer House is not New York City proper. But even like the first couple of years of Summer House, like they could not figure out who the fuck to cast. Like it was just this revolving door of freaks. But also, let's not forget the city.

That was a good show. That wasn't Bravo, was it? No, it wasn't, but it was New York City hustler. Yeah, no, it can be done. Making it, if I can make it there, I'll make it anywhere it's up to. What network was, um, MTV? What's his name? No, Magic Johnson's son. What's his name? EJ. EJ. And he had like this fab crew of New York swirlies. What was that E?

It must have been a rich kid spinoff. Yeah, yeah. It didn't do well either. It's a tough city to film in, honestly. And bling empire NYC. Only I watched that. That was also a flop. Because I was on bed rest and I enjoyed it.

Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy that there's not a show that captures this and like it's crazy that it's not been done successfully. Yeah. I think it's, it's hard. Cause there's like a lot of wealth in New York and like true wealth. A lot of people don't want to be on TV,

which is understandable. But there are like plenty of thirsty rich people and like, I don't know where they are. And it doesn't even have to be already rich people. It could be people in the working world. Yeah, up and comers. Who are coming up and just have interesting lives. I think it should be done.

So I think this show, it's got the makings. Yeah, I think the cast- It just will depend if the people are interesting and funny and witty and like- And what are they getting up to? Like, I'm really not interested in following Gia's podcasting career. Like, if we're gonna be following their jobs, like Amira, TikToker, Paper Magazine,

like that's interesting to me. Yeah. Is there a big paper magazine event just to work the door for, very the city, you know? Yeah. Like that's interesting, but watching somebody become a podcaster, like I'm really okay.

Yeah. I can just close my eyes and do it, you know? But I'm glad that they're doing this because like for so long it's like, they should do a show with Gia and Brooks Parks and they're doing it. So no matter how it goes, they can say they did it and they tried.

It's called Next Gen NYC, which isn't what I would have titled it. No, it's such a bad name. I would have called it City Slickers. I would have titled it. No, it's such a bad name. I would have called it city slickers. I would have called it. Like we're like real hustlers of New York city. And then like you could franchise it. Yeah, that's cute actually.

Right? Yeah. Or I think a term that's not used enough, yo pros. Young professionals. I've never even heard of that. That's an abbreviation for young professionals, which is exactly what these people are. Yo pros of young professionals. I've never even heard of that. That's an abbreviation for young professionals, which is exactly what these people are. Yo Pros of NYC?

Yeah, and then franchise it. Love. Franchise. Oh wait, speaking of New York reality stars, I know you've been following Erin Lee Chee's baby drama. I have been. And I wanna talk about it really briefly. Okay, I haven't been following the fallout,

but I saw the initial video. And then I saw she just recently talked about it on a podcast. She was asked. Basically, she's made a TikTok and it was all in service. She has a tequila brand. So she was promoting her brand. It was like a piece of content to like, it was like work. And it was the sound, tell a friend to tell a friend.

She's back. And the whole premise is like, she's finally having a cocktail, she just had a baby. And so she's holding her like three week old baby in her left arm and making a cocktail, shaking the shaker in her right hand. And, you know, eagle-eyed viewers were quick to notice like her baby's head is like falling off her.

Slippin', yeah. And being, and you know, and the, people are always critical, like of how you hold your baby. But the fact that she's also making a cocktail, it's giving, you know, boozy mom neglecting the baby. And her response, she was asked about it. She was like, I saw the video,

and like I saw what people saw, like it looks bad. But like this is my fourth kid, like I know how to hold my baby, like I'm fine. And like, I actually agree, like the video, it really looked really bad. Like, especially cause she was making a cocktail.

Yeah. But I'm sure she actually didn't even drink the cocktail. It was just for like her tequila brand. And yeah, she has four kids who all have normal necks. Like I know she's fine. Yeah, that's how I felt. So like the video looks so bad. And like, you're just watching that baby laying there

and you're like, that's not good. But I don't even know her, but I know she knows how to hold her baby. And sometimes like the way that babies lay, like it can look bad, but you don't see some support that they have. So when I saw it, I was like, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt

that the baby is fine. I actually really do believe that like she was holding him fine, it just looked bad. But I just had an issue with the video in general. Like what are you trying to prove that you can have a cocktail a week after making a TikTok viral trend? Sit down, sit down.

Like we, like, and it makes it better that it's in service of her tequila brand, not just her like coming to make like a viral video saying I can have a cocktail after I give birth. At least she's like, it's in service of something. But I just like, why are you worried on these TikTok trends? Like you just had a baby, like some people just do too much. I did also like how she said in her explanation,

people being like, her also addressing the fact that she didn't delete it. She was like, yeah, I'd like, I'm not, if I, would you make something wrong? I would have deleted it. And I wasn't, so I left it up. Like, sure, you can comment on it, but I know that my baby's fine.

And I know I'm not like drinking and throwing the baby around. Like it's fine. So I'm nothing to hide, which I left it up. Like, sure, you can comment on it, but I know that my baby's fine, and I know I'm not like drinking and throwing the baby around. Like, it's fine. So I have nothing to hide, which I actually thought was a good explanation too. I think the baby is fine. I'm not genuinely worried about the baby in any way. I just am like, there's this like idea that,

oh, I'm gonna make like a trendy video with the alcohol and the baby. Like just, it's too much. Yeah, yeah. Just, just get in bed. Nest. Nest, but I think also like,, it's too much. Yeah, yeah. Just, just get in bed. Nest. Nest, but I think also like this is her fourth child. Like it's not as like, you know.

It's not as like newborn bliss. You get back to life quicker. Yeah. With like subsequent children. But to me, I'm just like. That's true. It's too much. Sit down.

Yeah. Enjoy. Okay, so that is Next Gen NYC. We'll see you June 3rd. Maybe. Our next story is a little more Bravo news because Brittany Cartwright is talking to People Magazine today revealing that her son, Cruz,

was diagnosed with autism six months ago. She says, I am his voice now. She shared that Cruz is autistic and nonverbal. She said it might not always be that way, but that's how it is right now. The last season of the Valley, her and Jax had shared some of like Cruz's developments and things that they were worried about.

So this just kind of- Closes the loop. Closes the loop and maybe she talks about it on this next season. So like she just wanted to like put it out there in a formal way that he is autistic and she sharing like what they did when they, you know. The story was actually really crazy

that like up until he was two years old, he was hitting all of his benchmarks both physically and verbally. Some of them early, words early, walking early. And then at some point he became nonverbal. He regressed. He kind of regressed. Yeah.

Which is so crazy. Yeah, which is really crazy. And I'm sure this was also stressful on their marriage, like worrying about their child. Yeah. So I just hope that they're in a better place and that they can co-parent and I don't know. I'm really excited for the valley though.

Me too. Can I say something? Yeah. And maybe I'm wrong. So like, I haven't fully fleshed out this thought. So if you disagree with me, like don't cancel me. I feel like setting up like an interview to like drop like an update on like your toddler's medical condition

is just like a weird thing. And I'm definitely like feeling very sensitive in my current state to like how people interact on social media with their kids, whether that's posting them, not posting them, how much they share, because it's something I'm taking into consideration for, you know, I'm a social media creator

and I'm, you know, God willing, not quite about to have a baby. So maybe I'm feeling like a little like judgmental of other people's choice, because I'm just like looking and taking stock of like what I think works, what doesn't work. And you know, I just watch Ruby Frankie and like, you know, just noticing things. And I feel like this is like a weird thing to do.

I agree with that. Okay. Yeah, I agree just like to do a sit down interview. I'm sure like when you're a public person and there's things going on in your personal life, eventually you just like wanna share because like you feel. Compel.

Compel to share and maybe it actually might help you to reach other people who might be going through something similar. And like if that's what's going on in your life, like you wanna talk about what's going on in your life, otherwise what are you talking about? But I agree that like doing a sit down interview, cameras up, people magazine,

photo shoot in the backyard about something to do with like your little child is a lot. And you know who I think of? I think of JWoww because I've weirdly followed JWoww on Instagram for 15 years. Like I've just been with her through it all. And I know that her older son is on the spectrum and she had shared like over the years,

different things they did early intervention. And I like happened to know know a bunch of random things. And I don't know, but the way she did it wasn't so icky. I don't know, I feel like your child's medical developments is seriously not the business of the public. And I understand that for some people it's their job, but that's too bad. I don't know, I've been thinking about it a lot.

And when I saw it, I was like, oh. I wonder what Jack's thinks of it. Not that like he really has much of a say. Not that it matters. Honestly, and I think- Not that like she has custody, he fucked up, like he ruined their family. And I think she's a great mom.

I'm not saying like, you know, anything negative. I just, I'm definitely feeling like hyper critical of seeing how people like put with platforms who like, you know, I think we're all aware of like the negatives of showing your kids on social media, whether it's their mental health, whether it's freaks, pedophiles, like we know all the negatives

and like to see people like consciously like still do it, like I'm like. Yeah. Yeah, but that's what everyone does. No, I know and it's so- Much more people do it than don't do it. Yes, and it's so beneficial. You make so much more money, your views go up.

Like kids are just, and it's like gross when you think about like how successful kids are on the internet, like why it makes content better. It's just weird. And so I get it, but like live in a smaller house and protect your kids. Sorry, like that's my thought. Yeah.

Yeah. I think people would agree with you, but it is crazy how many people do it. Yeah. And like, I just watched Ruby Frankie, so it's like, it's really top of mind. It's top of mind, yeah, I understand. Well, are you gonna watch that,

at least season one I keep meaning to ask you, I really think that you should. Season one, no, I'm gonna watch season two and just, you'll have to answer my questions for me. Okay, happy to. You know? Happy to. I'm happy for Brittany because she seems like

she's in a really good place and like, like things have stabilized. And she's been through it. And yeah, and so, you know, whatever she's, whatever she wants to do, let her do. Yeah. Let her do. Our next story, are you ready for it?

I don't know if you're gonna be ready for this. Why? Because Keenan Thompson is sharing a health diagnosis after suffering from silence for years. Oh no. The SNL star revealed that over two years ago, he began, this isn't- Is it funny?

No, but it reminds me of like you, when you're like, when people are brave and they share that they have eczema, you know? Yeah, no, and my thing is like, I'm tired of people acting brave, sharing that they have acne, like we all do. Yeah, no, and my thing is like, I'm tired of people acting brave sharing that they have acne, like we all do. But what I'm gonna say next is gonna sound

like one of those things, but it's actually like more serious, okay? But it is actually brave. Not brave, but it sounds like it was seriously pain, like it's, you know, he was in pain. He began privately suffering from painful acid reflux, and it got so detrimental that it began affecting his work before he finally sought help he said I noticed that I would get hoarse a

lot easier when I'm doing the show losing my voice quicker but also uncomfortable sleepless nights because I'm burping up acid maybe he's pregnant no turns out that he has GERD which is called gastro esophageal reflux disease a condition where stomach acid repeatedly flows back up into the esophagus and irritates its lining. He had been trying to manage the pain on his own with like, you know, acid reflux management, but it stopped working.

Tums. Then he- Acid reflux management. It's not funny. No, no, it's not funny. And honestly, like as somebody who's for the first time dealing with acid reflux, like such- Can you imagine dealing with that every single day? No, no, it's not funny. And honestly, like as somebody who's for the first time dealing with acid reflux, like such-

Can you imagine dealing with that every single day? No, chronically horrible. But I tell you my acid reflux, which is literally I'm experiencing for the very first time has so negatively impacted my mental health over the last couple of months. It is horrible. It affects your sleep.

It affects your ability to talk. It affects your ability to breathe. I think that this is so real, but yes, the way you said it at first, like, yeah, we all get heartburn, move on. Yeah, but he learned that there's a real medical term for it and began making lifestyle changes and taking medicine to fight his GERD.

He said he felt relief immediately. God bless, I feel great. I'm in a much healthier kind of space with my daily lifestyle and meal decision-making and all that good stuff. I'm in a good place. So I'm happy for him because that is really painful and uncomfortable.

And I imagine that's a hard thing to like go to the doctor and be like, is this more than the average? Like everyone has acid reflux, but like this feels like more than normal. Yeah, and like seriously, may this type of medical disease never find me. It's horrible. Yeah.

Did you ever have acid reflux before pregnancy? Never. I didn't even know what it was. I just thought it was similar to Harper. It's so much worse. No, it is the next phase of Harper. Like it stems from Harper, but it's crazy. It's horrible.

Yeah, it really is. So I actually really am sympathetic to Kenan. You know, that's my boy. Yeah, and did his Uber driver like ever mention any of this? Any of this, he did say that Keenan struggles privately more than you know. And just to like go easy on him for that, but he didn't go into specifics.

Obviously he respects the attorney client privilege. Yeah. That's really sad. Yeah. But I love Keenan. But good to know that Gert is a thing. Yes, I love an acronym. I love an acronym that like has a vowel

so you can like say it. Do you know what I mean? Like you can't say like, I guess you could say like ASPCA, like ASCAPA. Like IBS, IBS. Right, right, TMJ, Timaja. But when there isn't- Timaja Shalame.

Right, when you can actually say, oh, that's like, we were just talking about Remy's- Oh yeah, that was a good one. Sadie. Sadie. The type of surgery she got was like S-A-D-E and they call it Sadie. I love, maybe it's cause you know,

I'm like, I'm a very phonetic person. You love acronyms, you and your husband. We do. We love acronyms. They write it together. Literally we're having a BFL after this. A big fat lunch, yum. Yes, because we have to go to the doctor

and I can't go on an empty stomach. Are you gonna go to the spot? Which spot are you referring to? The spot next to the doctor's office. No, no, I'm not. I'm kind of over that spot. Oh, you're wrong for that. No, I know.

But we are having like a BFL. I love like acronyms. And that's why like that Jake Shane TikTok series he does Nimming, we're Nimming. And he's like, ISH, I'm so hungry. Like it's seriously being bad. I love it. Yeah, it really is.

WHF. Work from is. WHF. Work from home. HF. Work home from. We're having fun. It is fun, I like it. It is fun. ILI.

I like it. You would love it. You would love it, okay. YYWLI. YYWLI. YYWLI. You would love it. You would love it. Y-Y-W-O-I. W-O-I. Y-Y-O-L-Y. Y-Y-O-L-Y. You would love it. Are you ready for our next story?

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Yes. But I think- But there also hasn't been a lot. No, there hasn't been a lot, but constant back and forth and suits and not reading all that shit. Yeah, paperwork, filings. Like TLDR.

Right. But something in Blake's original complaint that really stuck with us was the birthing scene, right? I know for me that was like a big thing. And for you too. And he showed the video of his wife giving birth nude and he wanted Blake to give birth nude. And then he cast like his friend to be the OBGYN.

So the friend OBGYN is speaking out. Oh wow. And he's revealing onset details that may tear apart her nearly nude birth scene claim. Okay, having said that, just like not to be contrarian, but this is- Of course, he's her friend. He's his friend. It's Justin Baldoni's friend.

He's his friend. But his name is Adam Monshine, and he appeared alongside Blake, and it ends with us, claiming, and he's saying the movie star mischaracterized their scene together in her sexual assault harassment lawsuit against Justin Baldoni He said I'm not going to speculate as to miss lively's motivations for mentioning me in the complaint Needless to say my experience working with her is very different than the one that she described Indeed, I was surprised to read her description of the scene

She alleged in her initial complaint and the amended version filed in February, that she was very disturbed by many of his, Baldoni's actions on set, including new scenes he chose to have in the film, such as a violative birthing scene for which he cast his friend as her OBGYN. She said he introduced his best friend

to play the role of OBGYN when ordinarily a small role of this nature would be filled by a local actor. She felt that the selection of his friend for this intimate role in which the actor's face and hands were in close proximity to her nearly nude genitalia for a birth scene was invasive and humiliating, that's the complaint.

So Mon Shine, who is the OBGYN in the movie, maintains that everything that occurred when they filmed was above board. In response to her claim that she was quote nearly nude, he alleges, her costume included a full hospital gown, black shorts and torso covering prosthetic to make her appear pregnant in addition to whatever personal garments she chose. He further claims that she never complained or expressed discomfort at any point because nothing unusual or improper occurred.

It was entirely professional. He also says that he takes offense to her implication that he was not qualified for the role. He said Ms. Lively- That's not what she said. Well, that it was a friend instead of a local actor. He said- Right, just that it was, it was unordinary. Ms. Lively's insinuations regarding my qualifications

are offensive as my bona fides are easily searchable online. Lastly, I was in fact a local hire. My wife and I are from New York and spend significant time there. As such, I, like any actor accepting that contract, was required to cover my own travel and living expenses in connection with the job. That's why they would hire a local actor."

So he was a local actor and also a friend. In her suit, she said, is a chaotic, crowded, and utterly lacking in industry standard protections for filming nude scenes. However, he disputes that and said, if I'm called to testify in the case, I will answer truthfully and more freely whatever is asked of me with all the legal protection that affords in particular by noting that Miss Lively was not nearly nude in the scene we shot together.

I just want to say, I know everybody thinks I'm like so team Blake and like unable to see, I don't agree with one thing this guy said. Like if you could go through one more time, all of his points, I could dispute every single one of them. And just because he perceives, like he's not the one who's nude.

So him saying, it wasn't weird. Well, you're not the- Him saying that she didn't say anything, so that means nothing was wrong. That's not true. She could have been uncomfortable and not said anything because that's like what you think you're supposed to do. But black shorts, a hospital gown, a torso covering-

Okay, so by the way, I feel like that's really misleading because yes, so you're standing next to Blake live, you can't see anything. He's a doctor, he's in between a vagina. So her wearing a hospital gown doesn't mean anything. Yeah, I guess if you're wearing little black shorts and there's like a man in between your legs, like that's like pretty intimate, you know?

Her torso being covered, that doesn't matter. We're talking about her vagina. Yeah, but she was also saying like a nearly, like a topless scene almost, which is not topless. And I'm imagining the shorts to be like little biker shorts. That's how I see it. Me too.

But if they're flowy or biker is important. Just want to say. Yes, it is. I have to imagine like under the gown, they would have to be biker. Yeah. I don't know. I just feel like everything he's saying is like,

well, that's easy for you to say. You're not the one in the seat. Yes, but everything that he's saying, I could well, that's easy for you to say, you're not the one in the seat. Yes, but everything that he's saying, I could see how that would be industry standard stuff. Like how else do you feel about the scene? And I don't agree that like him, that him being cast for the role is normal. I think it's a sort of thing where like-

The director's friend? Yes, to Justin, he's a local actor, to Blake, he's Justin's friend because he is both things. He is truly both things. Because it's like a sensitive scene, like just go by the book. Like it being your friend, I actually maintain that that's weird.

It does take a little bit of sting out of the story though. It does. I mean, everything that she alleged the sting has been taken out. There has been like a very effective response to all of her claims and she has not really formally responded. I don't know if she's waiting for court or whatever, but yes, everything that she alleged

that when we first read it was like, the astroturfing, like all of it, it all seems to have like sort of, there seems to be an answer for everything. I'm just not so easily swayed, I know people don't like my thoughts on this, but I'm just not. No, I like that you're standing your ground,

whether it's you're on the right ground or not. And I just wanna be clear, I'm not standing my ground because I don't wanna be wrong. Sometimes you have to admit, I have yet to see something so foolproof. And I don't know, this lady's saying this guy's freaky and I've always gotten weird freaky vibes from him. You know what?

I'm gonna believe it until I really have a reason not to. Yeah, but I guess there's a difference between being a freaky annoying guy and sexual harassment. No, but I guess there's a difference between being like a freaky annoying guy and like sexual harassment. No, but maybe like, well, I also think like the words we use for stuff like have sort of lost their meaning because I think something can be inappropriate without it being sexual harassment.

And maybe like, you know, it's not by the book and it made her uncomfortable, but is that sexual harassment? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. No, I admire that you're standing your ground because I don't feel good about being so unscrupulous on this, you know. No, I admire that you're standing your ground because I don't feel good about being so

unscrupulous on this, you know? No, but and the thing is like, I don't even feel a particular way like about Blake Live. I feel like up until this thing, like I never even, I definitely like my bias is that I think Justin Balzoni is freaky and I've always thought there was like something weird about him. I don't like his like brand of feminism and his man bun,

like having a podcast. Like I definitely come into- I'm right there with ya. I come into this with preconceived notions about him in a negative way, but I don't like stan Blake Lively, even though she's like Taylor's best friend. I've never been a huge fan of her and Ryan. I feel like every friend.

Taylor has a lot of bad friends. A lot of bad friends. She's actually bad at choosing friends who are famous. I would never choose the people that she chooses. So I don't know, I don't even feel like this, and I'm not one of these women who are like, believe everything women say, like some women lie, for sure.

I don't know why, I haven't been moved yet. And I'm open to being moved. I've yet to see something like that compelling. I don't know, him just being like, it wasn't uncomfortable. How the fuck do you know? You're the one with your hands in someone's vagina. Get out of here, scram. It's just not your business to decide

what's comfortable and not. Like you can say facts about what she was wearing. No, I think that one line is extremely subjective where he was like, this was, nobody was uncomfortable. It was perfectly standard. That's subjective and that's his experience. I'm happy for him that he had a good time. Yeah.

But the description of the clothes when we're told that she's like there to be nearly nude, that's factual. It's contradictory. Yeah. So, I would say the sting has been taking out of it. And maybe for you, you'll have to wait and see the trial.

Because it is hard when like some, because maybe she has a perfectly, well, I was wearing shorts and then you made me take them off. Like, she has something to say back to this. And that's what we'll see in a trial. But the way things come out like this very piecemeal. Yes, I am 100% reserving judgment on this.

Like I will admit that I was wrong if I am wrong during trial. Like I can't keep up with the court of public opinion especially when one person is very actively. Like there's a, there is like a well thought out strategy and campaign from Justin Baldoni's team to clear his name. Whereas Blake seems to be like not responding and waiting till the, till trial.

So I am really reserving. I, if I'm wrong, I am, I will be happy to say that I was wrong. I want to be completely honest about that. I just, I don't know. I don't feel like I am, but I never feel like I'm wrong. You know? As you shouldn't.

Such as life as Turdi Lu. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Which is some sad news. So maybe I should have reordered things to not end on a sad note. But something real surprising news that I saw a few days ago is the queen of Versailles

has announced that her husband has passed away. David Siegel. And then also to add just more tragedy, her sister died three days later from a drug overdose, which is just so, and she shared that, the Jackie Siegel. If you don't know Jackie Siegel, you guys ain't living. Give Jackie Siegel a reality show. Well, she had a reality show.

And if you haven't seen Queen of Versailles, you absolutely have to see it. And so I saw her announcement that David passed away. So I went to her Instagram and I forgot they're making a Broadway show of Queen of Versailles, you absolutely have to see it. And so I saw her announcement that David passed away. So I went to her Instagram and I forgot they're making a Broadway show of Queen of Versailles starring Kristin Chenoweth. And it's coming to Broadway in the fall. Tell everyone like what the documentary

Queen of Versailles is about. It's really interesting. So the documentary was set to follow the Siegel family, Jackie and David Siegel, like super wealthy family that lived in Florida. They were on track to build the largest residential home in America that was modeled after Versailles. So they called her the queen of Versailles

and they were filming the building process. They have a huge family, so many kids. The way that they live is actually not what you would expect. I think that's why they endeared so many people. They're not just like rich people that, you know. They're oddly relatable. Very relatable, they're also like hoarders. Yeah. It was just not what you would think. It oddly relatable. Very relatable. They're also like hoarders. Yeah.

It was just not what you would think. He was giving like TLC and also like a loving family and they're filming them as they're building the house in 2008 and his business is time shares. And all of a sudden his company like goes bankrupt. Stock market, housing market. They can't complete building the house and the house just like sits there

and that's kind of how it ends. In the years since I think he recovered his business and like became wealthy again. And I think they might, I don't know if they live in the house now. They live in a house that's big and beautiful. I think that the property itself sold years later. I don't think that's where they ended up living

once they were covered. It was very Schitt's Creek. I actually think a lot of the early seasons of Schitt's Creek was like inspired by them, at least the house. Yeah, so she shared on her Instagram a few days ago, I wanted to personally reach out and let you know that my husband, David Allen Siegel, passed away this morning.

I was lucky enough to share 25 wonderful years with David and together we raised eight incredible children, his life and legacy live on through them. Also, one of their children passed away in the years since the documentary, Victoria. Yeah, so there's been a lot of like tragedy too. And then she said three days later, she just announced that her sister died from an accidental overdose. They were also like a couple that I felt, you know,

were in love, you know? I think when you see people that wealthy. Like she was younger than him. I think she was like a former beauty queen. He's an older man and you just like. And she wasn't so young, she wasn't like 20, but she was like 40 and what was he like 70? Maybe 60s.

And so you would think like they're a certain kind of couple. Yeah. But they weren't like that. They weren't like that. They weren't like that. They were very much in love and they had like a very sweet relationship and they were married 25 years.

So like that's why I think the documentary did so well because it was just. It was so unexpected. It was so unexpected, but they were also very relatable. And now this, which is very sad. I didn't know about all the other things like that they had a kid who passed away and then her sister too.

That's really sad. Really sad. She's a great follow on Instagram. She is, you have to go see the show when it comes on Broadway in the fall. A thousand percent. It's gonna be amazing. Is it a musical?

Definitely, Kristin Chenoweth, you don't cast Kristin Chenoweth to not sing. No, it's true. And if Kristin Chenoweth is cast in it, that means like Broadway big wigs are like, they has good investors, good producers, good theater, everything. Everyone's attached.

Did you see that David Foster has a new show on Broadway? He did the music for a show called Boop about Betty Boop. That sounds like April Fools, but it's not. Broadway is really having a moment. So everyone's talking about Othello. And like, I feel like it's having a moment across like a multitude of plays. So Othello with Denzel Washington.

Jonathan- Nicole Scherzinger. Yeah, Sunset Boulevard. Jonathan Groff is in a new show that everyone's talking about. He's playing Bobby Darin. So it's all like old school music, very Michael Buble like, and Gracie Lawrence, the girl who replaced Renee Rapp in Sex Lives is in it too.

Oh cool. Then there was just a new show. Everyone was there. Do you see Kaia Gerber on Broadway? Yes, I did. What show was that? Good Day, it was called. Oh look.

Oh, George Clooney's in it, that's why. That's why they went. The show is called Good Night and Good Luck. J-Lo went to the premiere, Uma Thurman. Everyone was there. Everyone was there. Broadway definitely is having a moment. I used to hate Broadway shows. I just never wanted to ever go to one, but now I want to go see some shows. Not even because they're having a moment. I just feel like I've changed because it's been seven years.

And now I like shows. Well, I've changed, but Broadway remains the same. I hate Broadway shows. I think we should go see a great one. You know who else was at the premiere? Your favorite. Who? One of your favorite actors. I could give you 1 million guesses and you would never guess.

Who? Richard Kind. I fucking love Richard Kind. I'm shocked that you know him by name. I only know him by name. Of course I do. He's from Curb. Yeah. But he was also in that show, Amazon Prime show,

Red Oaks that we loved. They need to bring that show back. He's been in everything. Like I, he's a true working actor. He probably goes to the grocery store. He's totally fine. Maybe some people ask him for pictures because he is in everything.

It depends which store. Like if he goes to Barney Green Grass. If he goes to like, store, he's totally fine. Maybe some people ask him for pictures. Cause he is in everything. If he goes to Barney green grass. If he goes to like, yeah, Al Dilley. You can't walk into Zabars. No, no, he's like a Jewish king, but he's so classic. So classic. So maybe you should, well, you'll see Queen of Versailles. You will.

Yeah, that I would say. Yeah, to report back. You saw funny girl recently. You liked that. I did, that is the last Broadway, that I would say. Yeah, to report back. You saw Funny Girl recently. You liked that? I did. That is the last Broadway show that I saw. The last one I saw was Gazillion Bubbles. It actually wasn't on Broadway.

It was off eighth. But it was like Times Square-y. No, actually it really wasn't. It was Hell's Kitchen. That's E. That's also a big Broadway show. Alicia Keys music is in a show called Tell's Kitchen. Yeah, Broadway is definitely having like a revival.

Happy for them. Cause they suffered during COVID. COVID hit hard. That was bad for Broadway. Yeah, it was bad for everyone. Yeah. That's our show you guys. I'm so hungry.

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