The Toast - 90s Blind Spots: Monday, March 2nd, 2026

Episode Date: March 2, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and every show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Monday. Hope everybody had a great weekend that was both restorative and... Parjolicious. When in doubt, just say parjolicious. When in doubt, parjee.

Yeah. Well, my weekend was restorative and parjee. And you want to know how I know that? Let me guess. Let me guess. How do I know? I feel like you know you had a restorative weekend when you didn't get out of your pajamas. Is that what happened to you? You guys, we just had to work.

We just recorded the first two minutes of this episode before we realized like we were having an audio issue. So we fixed it and started over. But that was the conversation. That was the conversation. She's like, I hope everyone had a restorative weekend. And I was like, I didn't know how I did. And she racked her brain and she didn't know how. I couldn't think, possibly.

And I said because I didn't get out of my pajamas all weekend. And the ones that I wore it to sleep. So like I didn't leave my house. I got to like be cozy with Maxie all weekend. On Saturday, everybody came to me. so like things were buss in. We played mage. We had a barqueue.

Oh, there was like a little storm. There was a storm. We did a little bit of everything. What about our barbecue? The thing I like about spending time in Florida is that when it rains, I'm like immediately transported back to like summer camp because it's hot and it's raining. And you know it just like needs to rain briefly so that it'll pass. But you get this temporary moment of like chilly, cozy vibe. We had to bring in our mage table like it was coming through the screen.

The wind. It was crazy. No, it was like kind of crazy weather. It was really cozy and sweet. And then it's back. like 20 minutes later. Then we were able to have our barbecue outside. And then we were back.

Then we were back inside waiting for the rain again. The barbecue was it. Let's talk about the food. The food was really good. Actually, like, I don't know. The vibes were really good. No, the food was excellent. Except for their hamburger.

So, yeah, like, Ben went to the grocery store and Jackie's Publix was like a kind of a bus and kosher section. So Ben just bought pre-made kosher patties. The ally ship from Publix is so beautiful. It can't go unnoticed, like the ally ship. Jackie then saw what Ben got and was like, listen, those pre-made. I made paddies suck balls. But we already had them.

And he was like, no, it's just because you don't season them when you make them. Yeah, he did victim blame. I was like, oh, okay, yeah. Maybe I'm just bad at them. We get pre-made patties from our kosher grocer, and they're, like, better than any patty you can make yourself. The public is not the kosher grocer. So we overestimated the allieship.

The burgers were disgusting and terrible. But everything else was amazing. The camaraderie was amazing. We should have just had hot dogs because that's all anyone. The chicken. The chicken. Kern. French fry dairy.

I just love a barbecue. It's so much work, but it's actually not because local people. No, because I told Ben for this barbecue. Whenever we have a barbecue, the people, like, we can't agree on barbecue because it's so much work. And Olivia is prepping at her house. And Ben wants to do, like, start at 10 a.m. and eat at one. And he wants to start, like, making dishes that he saw on Instagram. Did he tell you what he wanted to make, but he didn't make?

So I pleased him the entire time that he was cooking. And we really kept it very tailored because I was like, Ben, we don't have to have a barbecue that, like, makes us never want to have a barbecue again. No, the dishes. We don't have to break up the family every time we have a barbecue. Ben really takes advantage of the family rule. Like if you cook, you don't have to clean, which is, I think, a fair rule. But I no longer think it's a fair rule

because I think he takes advantage of it. So I was in charge of cleanup. But let me tell you, I was shocked, honey. I was in tears. I was doing dishes. How few dishes there were. That's also, you know, barbecuing is so underrated.

It's just the grill. You know, there's no pots. There's no pans. You know, if you're a sweeper, highly recommend throwing a barbecue. So it was very successful, and I feel like we'll do one again because we all had a pleasant experience.

I don't know. Maybe we should just take the W because Ben was sort of whispering about this dish he wanted to make. What is it? That he saw on Instagram and he wanted to try. It was like a barbecue themed.

Ready? You're going to throw up a hot dog tartar. That's disgusting. Yeah. And I love a hot dog. But he saw a hot dog tar tar tar. I was waiting for him to bring it out. I thought he made it.

Did you enjoy his egg plant in Lobna? Oh my God. Okay. So Ben and I went to the farmer's market on Saturday, which we vlogged. By the way, it's on the Patreon. People are like sort of saying it's like the next Anthony Bourdain. You know, whatever show he filmed.

Which one ever you is Anthony, Ben? obviously and I'm like the rude producer like the bitchy PA like I was like giving commentary the whole time I bet and I both put on microphones and I forgot that like we were miced up the whole time so I'm in the car bends over here I hear Ben talking to the lady from the produce stand like it was so funny um and so we were it was a small farmer's market we hit all the stands and towards the end honestly I felt like a third wheel being there Ben met the woman of his dreams she was running a stand called Mediterranean Delight. I feel like it actually wasn't

Mediterranean Fair. It was like Persian. It was stuff I see on Shaz of the Valley, you know? Labne and Babaghanoush. You know, in Shaza Sunset, Adam is like always making his is it Tabuli or whatever. Tabuli. But I can't remember it was Tabuli or Babaginous.

And then whatever, they're making fun of him because it's like not even good. But it's like his thing. He like married someone person. It makes Tabuli. That's really cute. So I don't know what the fair was. and she was saying that the farmer was Jordanian and the cheeses from Lebanon.

So I feel like it actually wasn't Mediterranean. It was more Middle Eastern. Whatever. Ben bought, first of all, she gave him a four-course meal of tasters. I just think she liked him. And I literally felt awkward being there. Like, they were in love.

Ben said it was the best food I did buy a baklava. I know that's Mediterranean. It was so fucking good. Ben got like cheeses and oils and I don't know. And it's all stuff you leave out on the counter. Great. You know how much I love things on the counter. So yeah, we vlogged it.

How did we get here? I don't know. I'm like waiting for the... You said... Did you enjoy his love? Oh, no, all that to say. No, I didn't try anything because you know that shit is disgusting.

It's like cheese sitting in oil on my counter. Doesn't even go in the fridge? That was a ball of cheese. I looked like a matzo ball. Thank you. No, it was cheese. He made soup for his coji.

No, no. He didn't even make it. His mistress gave it to him. It was the craziest time at the farmer's market. It was like so drama, you know? Yeah. It was so fun, though. And actually,

you should check out the vlog for a little surprise. I will. Then launched like a project. Are you going to yell at me about last night? Is there going to be a public flogging? Okay. So I wanted to go to like a party Sunday dinner. Thank you for reminding me.

I have so much to tell you. I wanted to go to like a party Sunday dinner. And everybody here tells me about this Chinese food place that like they all go to on Sundays. But it's like kind of far. So I called Jackie. I was like we're going to go to the Chinese place. And she said, you know it's like 40 minutes. You know why that somebody said.

I said, oh nice. And you said how far is it? I was like 30. That was like 25, 40 minutes. You asked how far. So I said like 35, 40 minutes. And then I look. on Google was 38. And then I was realizing that I had like eaten pretty healthy all day. And like,

even on the drug, like I can't control myself at Chinese food. So I was like, you know, let's pivot. So I asked my sister for a food recommendation. Big mistake. Yeah. I gave her the wreck of like a really great Asian place that's closer by that I've been to one. When I think Asian, I think sushi, Japanese, Chinese, fine. And I think like it's a cuisine that I like because it doesn't feel inaccessible to me. Like, yes, you can do it really fancy and highbrow, but it's lots of rice and chicken that I love. As long as there's rice and chicken.

I never even look at a menu. If I'm going to an Asian restaurant, whether it's Chinese, Japanese, like, rice and terriac. I can figure it out. They have terriaki. When I walked into this restaurant, I was like wishing I had looked at the menu before

because it was when the waitress was explaining, like, the fair to me, it was so elevated. It was fusion. It was shared tapas. And I'm like, but tapas is Latin. It was just so fusion. This is a concept.

But it's Latin. But it's a concept. It was so fusion. It was so inaccessible. I looked at the menu. I'm like, there's not one thing for me on this meal. There wasn't side rice. They had all these different fusion fried ricees, all that had pork.

And I was like, do you have like a fried rice veggie? Yeah, we couldn't do like a vegetarian fried rice. And I will say that was the one thing I kind of clung to. Ben was in fucking heaven. Again, I felt like a third wheel with the waitress. She kept coming over being like, how is it? Well, yeah, I want to ask. Like, did he love it?

Oh my God. It's really good. Loved. Ruby was also like... Oh, he loved it? No, he was sort of like close to bedtime, like not having it. And so I was like, you know what? You enjoy your date with your waitress.

I will go outside and walk him around. It was just, I left so hungry. I like wanted to kill you. Like, you don't know me. Oh, and the crazy thing is it was like a cute little area. So we walked around afterwards looking for, you know, an ice cream spot. The restaurant across the street, you should have recommended to me. That was like...

I've never been there. I don't know it. It looked just like a regular sushi restaurant. restaurant, like very accessible, no fusion. It was very pretty turd. And next time I ever, and you should do this having known yourself, like, how, I don't want to age you, but how old are you? How many years on this planet? I'm about 19. You should be looking at the menus before you go to restaurants

because you are so picky. If you or Ben tell me to go somewhere, like the two people on this planet who are supposed to know me best, I don't expect you walking into a global fusion. Like, it's just not me. Okay. Well, I apologize. The place across the street. Like I said, I got it 50% right. Yeah, the wrong 50, and I will be going to the place across the street. Okay. So you're hungry today?

Amitiated. We need a pargy lunch. I wanted to talk about what's in this envelope. Oh, we have something important to do today because sort of businessman of the week. You know, we said that we're not going to change businessman of the week every week because then we're just sort of beholden. It becomes like this stupid thing. But we've actually been right on schedule where every week we have a businessman that we need to feature.

And it's an amazing opportunity for many reasons to focus. feature an amazing person, you know, a business. Shout out someone who's doing something that we didn't know that they were doing. We didn't know that was happening. And I'd like to shout out. It was a toaster who gave us this idea. You know, we always talk about our friend Bridget. Bridgett. You know what's so funny. I call her at Bridget. I call her at Bridget, too,

because I don't know her last name because her username on Instagram was just Bridget. But it's Bridget Ball. To me, it's Bridget Bar, because she started the bar. She's a queen for many reasons, but in the last year she's documented her journey on social media going through chemo. It's been like really trying time, and she's always talking about her. Her husband's like,

So therefore, and they just finished treatment, and she was posting on her Instagram that she really wants to do something for her husband because he's been just so supportive and so amazing during this time, like literally put his whole life on hold for her. So she was like, I want to take you on a trip, yada, yada. And she shared that Mike actually doesn't...

Her husband doesn't want to go on a trip because he feels so behind. He's sort of like just put work completely to the side and going on a trip would just make him feel even more stress, even more behind. So she was like, but what can I do for you? And he was like, you know what? It would actually be really helpful

if you could like share on your Instagram. She has like a million followers, all female, a lot in her area. she lives in Texas. If you could just like share a little bit about my business on your Instagram, like maybe to get some more patients. He's a plastic surgeon. I actually know a couple of people who, Shannon Ford has posted that she got her upper bluff

done. They've had amazing, amazing. He's like a very, I wouldn't tell anyone to just go to any plastic surgeon. Like I know a couple of people who've gotten boobs, eyes, face, all the things. So having said all of that, our businessman of the week. This week is Dr. Mike. Mr. Bridget. Mr. Bridget.

We have his headshot printed. Oh, my God. Also, I just love him. Like, he is the standard for what a husband should be. He's so cute. I love him. Yeah. So, sorry to the CEO of Air Maze.

We sort of have, like, bigger. Gotten booted by Dr. Mike slash our husband. And if you are in the Dallas metro area and need any sort of plastic surgery or injectables, we recommend that you check out his practice. Yes, go ask Shannon Ford. She had the best most amazing experience there. Actually, she recovered at Britch's house. I don't think they do that for all their patients.

Standard care. But if you're in the need for new breasts, new eyes, new lips, new face, whatever. Maybe a little something, a little tinker. Maybe cosmetic or maybe something like, you know, that's just bothered you your whole life and you haven't, let this be the sign. A little consult. Look at him.

Perfect. Our B-M-O-T-W. Mike Choto. Excuse me, Dr. Mike Choto. Dr. Mike. That looks great. And I'm obsessed with businessman of the week because in all of our clips, there's just like a guy right behind me.

Like, I'm obsessed with it. I like it too. And I also feel like it's a really great opportunity, like, for, you know, to share some good news. It's very cause-driven. We are extremely cause-driven. And, of course, we are waiting for sponsorships, but before those come, like, I really like using it as a platform

just to highlight someone who's doing something really great. Like, it's giving some good news by John Krasinski. Oh, my God. Maybe we'll sell for 100 mil. Maybe we will. Yeah. Last week, we highlighted someone who refused to join Jeffrey Epstein's pedophilia ring,

Slay the House Stamboots, El Axel Dumas. And then before that, we highlighted just a man doing his best. The man who took a chance. And the man who inspired businessman of the week, and that's Paul Salem, maybe soon boyfriend of Nicole Kidman. Yes, I have heard that, like, they're dating, and that's what that weird article was, like sort of a soft launch.

Well, good. Yeah. I love that. What else should we talk about? I read the Redheads book this weekend. We are reading What Kind of Paradise by Janelle Brown, and we're recording today. And I didn't know what to expect, but the book dares to answer the question, what if the Unabomber had a daughter?

That's what the book was. It was like fan fiction. What's it called, like, Quinton Tarantino does it when it's like history? No, it's sort of like fan fiction. It's like, um, like I did like historical fantasy, I guess. Yeah. It's like the story kind of pretty much the Unabomber, um, but his daughter is in the cabin with him and she's, you know, it's a coming ab age novel. That's really crazy. You know, I'm like kind of obsessed with the Unabomber. I do know that. So I didn't mind taking a path down Unabomber way. But, um, no, I enjoyed it actually. It felt like so many books that I've already read,

though. Like, have you ever heard of Educated by Tara Westover? Do you ever hear that book? I've heard of it. Yes. You've heard? Oh, it's really, really good. It felt like that. It felt like tomorrow, tomorrow and tomorrow, which was like a huge book for the book Girlies because it's all about like the invention of the internet and like gaming and whatnot. So I feel like now would be a good time to just like share my truth that like I don't know like what the Utabomber is. Okay. Can I? Is that like crazy? No, it's not because it happened in the 90s when you were like a lot, Like you were living it, so no one taught you about it because it wasn't history to you, but you were too young to know what was going on.

And I just feel like it's always Unabomber, this, unabomber, that there's never been like the right time for me to share. Like, I don't know what the fuck that is. Or is it a person? Yeah. It's a person. It's a serial killer. His name is Ted.

Oh, a serial killer? He's a serial killer because he was a Unabomber. He used to send packages to different people. He was like, he was an anarchist and he was like really against, like, technology and advancement in progress. And he would send me. mail bombs in the mail to different like professors and people in like a high up who are like making progress right um and studying these things and it's called unabomber because it was like universities and airline bomber he said to airlines too um and it went on for like 20 years and they could not

catch him so scared and then they did and then they did in the 90s you want to know how they caught him i would love to know technology so he said he sent a letter to the washington post in the new york time saying if you publish my manifesto I will not kill again so like the FBI and this was had been like a global case so they were like your movie yeah it's a mini series called manhunt unabomber I recommend it and I read up on him last thing because I was like I wanted to is this going to spoil it no no no you're not going to watch it it's just history I don't know it kind of sounds like something I know you're like making it sounds so enticing but okay go spoil it I'm just putting a swirl I'm putting a swirl of spurt yeah sure they he sent the letter to both of them saying like if you publish my manifesto I will not kill anyone else and

like really torn at the whole country because like you know you don't want to negotiate with terrorists right but like you don't want anyone else to die and then this magazine penhouse was like we'll publish it penhouse yeah and he was like that or no yeah he was like that's too unsavory so i'll just kill one more if you guys are publishing it like and so then the new york times was like okay we'll publish it i think that's right so they published it but also because they wanted to see if anybody reading it might recognize the language that he was using and it turns out that his brother's wife was on to him and was like, this sounds like a letter that he wrote us once. Like he's so crazy.

He's been saying this stuff for years. And then the brother and his wife, they actually did a lot of- It's always the wife. They did a lot of due diligence before they officially turned him in. Like they had people comparing his letters. Like, is it a match? And they turned him in and it was him. Okay.

Now, I feel like this is such an amazing story. Like, I'm ripped. Like, yeah. And I know people talk about these. you know about where all the time, but I feel like it should be like more famous story. Like, how did I not know what that is? I feel like people reference him a lot. But again, it's just like JFK love story.

It happened in the 90s. So we were, yeah. We were old enough to be there, but young enough that we're not learning it in our history books. Maybe like kids nowadays do. But it was part of like a lot of like 90s crime that I only recently learned about like Waco. Speaking of Waco, oh my God, I cannot believe you brought up Waco. I literally felt like Waco. What you do, David Cresh?

So where we're staying has a ceiling fan. And I love it. has a light. And it happened once before, but last night, twice. The feeling fan must be wired improperly. The light went on. Do you know what it's like to be woken up with a bright light above your head in the middle of the night? Waco. I was Waco. Psychological terror. It was, and it happened twice. I was in fucking hell. Then I couldn't go back to sleep. It was literally like what the FBI did to that cult. Yeah. Great same. I literally felt like David Kroche. Grange-Cavidian. I can't believe you brought up Waco. I was like thinking before the show.

It all comes back to Waco. That actually. is true. So yeah, this is like Waco oriented which reminds me of educated by Tara Westover. Because there's also like, it's her memoirs. She grew up like in a survivalist home like out in the... So did I. I mean, four sisters,

survivalist, you know? Yeah, like a, you know. Four sisters, one bathroom. Apocalyptic. Literally. Yeah. I feel that. That was us. What else can we chat about before we get into the stories? I did watch. Redheads will come up this weekend. If you read the book or you're Like read it and read along with us. I did watch the actor awards last night,

and I have a lot of negative things to say, even though you know I hate to be negative. That's just my truth. Okay, well, we're going to get into it. I think that's a story. Me, I think. I chose him. She's so coy.

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No, oh, oh, yeah, yeah. In the next break. In the next break. Yeah, Jackie, um, kind of has a big announcement. It's a good project. Our first story. The actors awards were on Netflix last night. We've got the big winners, the big losers. Michael B. Jordan bested, Timothy Shalame.

That's kind of a big deal. The red carpet was parjolicious, definitious. It was very high quality. I really liked Netflix's, you know, I think this is the first award show they've done, and I thought it was very highbrow. The carpet looked gorgeous. The live stream was pretty seamless.

I loved having no commercials. Like that I definitely felt like I was living in the future. They do say about the SAG Awards, because it is like a peer voted. I have a hair stuck in my lipstick. Do you see it? And I can't get it. I think you just got it by bumping your mic.

It's like a peer voted award, which people, you know, say means more. Because it's presented by Sagastra. Right. And you won because your peers think that you did a great job, your fellow members. But they also say it kind of has no bearing on Oscars because it's peer voted. So take that with like the winners with a grain of salt. I think some people like want to win it, but they don't like get down on their hopes of an Oscar because of it. Yeah.

Kristen Bell was a host. Had she do? She Ariana DeBost the fuck out of the intro. I'm like surprised, like how we all came for Ariana DeBose. I couldn't believe there weren't more people. She did like one of the worst. Her singing was good. But it was one of those things where thank God I had the captions on because I had no

idea what she was saying. She was talking about everybody's names and they kept cutting to the person. It was literally Ariana DeBose 2.0. I think Ariana's was better. All about like stage names. And I honestly didn't understand it. And I just feel like have we learned quite literally nothing. And a lot of her like sketches were annoying.

And like very hosty. But good? Like inoffensive and... Inoffensive. So the thing about the SAG Awards, it's like, it's very insider. So they do that thing at the beginning, which I adore,

which is they cut to a couple of different actors. They tell a funny story. And then they end it with, I am an actor. They had Kristen Whig. They had Kate Hudson. Like, I really like that schick. It's like very funny.

And it's well written. I feel like it's like S&L-E vibes. But a lot of of the event feels like very insider because it's like for Hollywood people it's really like it's televised but I feel like up until recently like it's not for the audience it's for like the industry yeah yeah a lot of it just felt like they were all having so much fun like with each other I'm like why am I watching this um but I feel like the production level was really there and I appreciated like Netflix's first stab at an award show um I would not I don't think have Kristen Bell hosted again

I think that last year she did it and it was really well received. And that was before it became the actor awards, like the rebrand. So I think they wanted like for continuity to help people understand. But I do think they could try someone now. Yeah. They had like a ping pong tournament with Ted dancing. Like it was really silly. Understood.

And Dax Shepherd wasn't there because he was getting a colonoscopy. Like one thing about Jack Shepherd is he's going to make everything about himself. And I love that. Yeah. He posted like a text from, I guess, his doctor about like his schedule. schedule just to prove why he wasn't there as if there's not like trouble in paradise which I don't think anyone I don't think that there is but that is weird it's a big night for your wife like move your colonoscopy they're pretty routine right agreed yeah yeah you're like you're a big

star like I'm sure you get preference in in your colonoscopy office the award for I think supporting actress in a comedy show did go to um Catherine O'Hara posthumously oh which was really sweet everybody stood up and she is in the studio which is the Seth Rogen show which kind of swept. Seth won and then he was the one who accepted the award on Catherine's behalf. And I don't like love Seth Rogan and I felt like he was not the right person to accept it, but he did give a really lovely speech about like the last couple of months. And this is like the last project she worked on and had to honor her legacy. So I actually, I wanted to be a hater, but it was very sweet. His show swept. I haven't seen the show. It kind of made me want to

see it because I didn't realize Catherine O'Hara was in it much like Cynthia Revo. I didn't know that was happening. Do you want to hear the other win? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the big, outstanding performance by a cast and a motion picture, so best picture, went to Sinners. Yes. Sinners has kind of been, like, snubbed. Has it?

Not snubbed, but like it's... I don't know anything about sinners. Like, seriously, not one thing except, like, Michael B. Jordan and Haley Steinfeld are in it. Yeah, Michael B. Jordan. It's very, like, parent chap. He plays, like, himself twice, you know? And then someone sent me a clip. A clip, yeah.

There was a clip going viral. I haven't seen, I haven't seen the movie, except I've seen a 30-second clip. And I just assumed, like, it's a good movie. You know, it's getting all this buzz. you just like assume it's really great. And I saw this clip that was like some of the worst writing. It was Haley Steinfeld like talking about getting. No, don't even.

It was so bad. It was kind of like when Amelia Perez clips were going viral for how outrageous they were. The dialogue was. Pines to vagina, vagina to penis. And it's like, that's an award winning. Literally Oscar winning song. So that was what my experience was with sinners. Now, I don't know about the rest of the movie outside of like the 30 seconds that I saw,

but it did not bode well. I've heard that the movie is incredible and that Michael B. Jordan is amazing. How is that possible? I don't know. He keeps getting, he keeps losing. Context. Yeah, right. I'll just go with context. He keeps losing to Timothy, so I'm sure he was excited. He won outstanding performance by male actor, so best actor. Female actor went to Jesse Buckley for Hamnet. Then supporting male actor went to Sean Penn, one battle after another. He was not there. Supporting actress. A lot of people weren't there, by the way. Amy Madigan in weapons. The TV shows is like more thing to me. Best drama The Pit. You must have been happy to see

that. Noah Wiley won, my boyfriend. Adam Sandler's handsome cousin. What? We just talked about this. Are you sure? No, no, no. I'm just saying like he looks like Adam Sandler. Oh. They're both Jewish. I thought they were actually cousins. They probably are. Yeah, like Trace a lineage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he looks like him. He was wearing the craziest outfit. Like it was just a black tuxedo. Yeah, I'm sorry. This looks like. This looks like. like Adam Sandler every time I see him. That's really generous Adam Sandler. Because also I don't watch this show so I'm not so familiar with

his face. So when I see him, like at a right angle, Adam Sandler. Not at all. Also, it's kind of like... People felt that call last time I made it. It's the new Gen Game of Thrones. Remember how Game of Thrones, everybody used to show up to award shows and you'd be like, seriously, who is that? They're all doctors. There's not a stitch of makeup in the show, not a blow dry. They look like rats. You're supposed to be on like this 12-hour ship, like the worst. When I saw something,

I'm like stunting, like, what's his name? the blonde one Whitaker he was like wearing a luke I was like excuse me Langdon was wearing a kilt I was like okay slay Langdon like it was shocking

it reminded me of Game of Thrones where you'd have to be like who is that in the show again because they look so glenn they all showed up and showed out I didn't realize that like the cast was nominated so literally everyone came yeah then the female actress

in a drama Carrie Russell the diplomat I don't know Carrie Russell I just feel like her peers love her and that's why she won not that she's bad and like the diplomat yeah it's like the new scandal. Yeah. But Parker Posey was nominated for White Lotus. Yeah, overlooked. I do feel like she was

overlooked a little bit. But I don't watch diplomat. I know people love it. So like don't come for me. Seriously, I don't give a shit about it. Yeah, right. I have no horse of this race. Leave me alone. Comedy series went to the studio must be super funny. I know. I kind of feel like I need to watch it. No, I don't. I just really don't like Seth Rogen and like he, it's his show. He created it. He's a star. Like, I don't think I can watch it. It's all about Seth. Yeah. I'm good. Like, I can't. So he won Best Male Actor in a Comedy Series. Series. Congrats.

Female actress went to Catherine O'Hara. Male actor in a television movie or limited series. Owen Cooper, adolescence. He was not there. I love a limited series. That was like... That was like Queens Gambit. Literally the best show ever made.

Queen's Gambit is the template. For mini-series. Chernobyl. Chernobyl. I love a miniseries. I totally agree. And I think in this day and age, a lot of things start out as mini-series

and they do like second and third seasons and it ruins them. Yeah. Like big little eyes. Yeah. would have been like perfect. Yeah. And I know people loved it

and they would never agree with me and no one would ever because they were like, no, you're wrong. No, season mom was amazing. Yeah. Michelle Williams dying for sex. I think she was surprised to win. I was surprised to see her there.

I didn't, I didn't know that was happening much like I said, The Are You know. Yeah, but she's always a good, you know. She's a classic. Like she's like Merrill Street. Yeah. When in doubt Michelle Williams. Oh, I caught up on Love Story.

Did you? No, I'm still logged out of Hulu when I had to read for Redhead. Okay. I just want to say. I stand by what I'm said, and it's nice to see other people having the same experience of me. The guy who's JFK is abhorrent. He's one of the worst actors of all time.

He's getting like insane accolades of him. No, he's not. Where'd you find this guy? Because of the resemblance. And I feel like they really were like, and I was reading a Ryan Murphy interview about how they literally almost postpone the production because they could not find. They wanted to nobody. He said a lot of pre-established actors wanted to play the role. And they were hell-bent on finding someone new, discovering someone new.

And they were watching thousands of tapes and thousands of headshots. and they finally found this guy a month before production. They had Sarah Pigeon always as Carolyn. She was always a Carolyn, and they couldn't find JFK. And I feel like they just got really sidetracked by his looks because he really does look very similar. And I saw a clip on TikTok today from a podcast talking about it. And it was like these really like smart like theater like people. And they had the best takes.

And I was agreeing with everything they're saying. Like first of all, like JFK was that guy, right? Like he was so sure of himself. When you see him in press conferences, like he's very smart. He knows exactly who he is. And like in the show, he's giving like joke. Well, that's Ryan Murphy's fault then. But it's like they're recreating a lot of the clothing, right?

Like when we saw the park fight. Yeah. It was the same. Anyway, I was sending that to you because I couldn't believe that they fought in public like that. Oh, yeah. The first time I saw it, like, I was shocked. That's insane. So it was in this episode.

Okay. So they're wearing the same exact outfits. They're copying a lot of the outfits exactly, which I like, so when she walked out of her apartment in that outfit, I'm like, oh, they're about to fight in the park. Like I knew. And it's the girl in the TikTok was saying, like, Like, no, literally all the clothes are wearing him. He looks like so silly in all of us.

And JFK was known for like wearing the craziest things. But he was just this like effortlessly cool guy that you didn't even think twice about what he was wearing, even though it was like nutty as hell. Like he wore his belt. His bike lock as a belt all the time. Like this guy could never. Like I'm sorry. I think he's terrible. I haven't noticed.

I haven't had that experience. And I've been seeing people like, I guess no one's talking about the acting. Everyone's just talking about like the two of them. They're talking about Carolyn and JFK themselves. Yeah. And everyone's sort of having a renaissance with them. Yeah. And that's what I was saying when I first recap the show. It's like, the show was amazing because this is the most fascinating story. Because it's a rabbit hole. And weirdly enough, even though it was so big at the time, I think a lot of people, myself included, like, don't know the lore. Because it's 90s. Right. So the 90s are a blind spot. It was ripe for people born in the 90s. It was ripe for recreation. And it was never going to fail, especially Sarah Pigeon is so gorgeous. Like he stinks. Sorry, we're being blinded by the fabulousness of it all. He stinks.

I haven't had a baby over the weekend. Congrats. And I think that if he's coming off as a weenie, as you had said, and, you know, loser energy, even like, why didn't he ever break up with Darrell? Like, he didn't like her. Oh, and in real life, it was so much worse. Like, why did he always have to wait for her to break up with him? Why couldn't he just, like, take a stand?

And also, he's, like, leading on Carolyn for, like, two years. And it's worse than that. You can't, like, make a choice. But that, if that's what happened, like, that's not on the actor. In real life, you got to the part with the letter, right? What letter? Somebody leaves a letter in his bag at football. No.

What the hell have you watched? How many episodes? Three episodes and then it got locked out. Talk to Lulu. Okay. Well, in the real world, he got the letter, confronted her with it, like in public at a restaurant, threw it at her, and then they broke up for a year. And in that year, he got back with Darrell Hannah.

Like, this is the man. But you keep saying he was that guy, so selfish. But, like, he did those things. Yeah, because only guys like that can do that. And get away with that and still be a heartthrom. Most famous face in the world. You can't walk out of your apartment without paparazzi. Nothing like we ever seen.

And you're fighting in public? Also, I want to say one more thing. Are you following Jack Schlossberg? He's like running for Congress now. I feel like he's like kind of running with the momentum of the show. The time is so on, it's intentional. It's intentional. No, it's intentional.

Like there's a resurgence of people like, oh my God, that was such a better time. I wish we had the Kennedy dynasty. And he's running for Congress. And like I'm seeing all these videos of him. He's like hosting meet and greets at like diners with real New Yorkers or whatever. And like it's giving cringe. That's really crazy. Also was JFK like is the insinuation that he was like going to run for president one day?

You have to watch the show. I can't talk to you. I don't really like the thing is I don't mind the spoilers. So the thing is we never will never know. Right. Because he, spoiler alert passed away before he would have. But yeah. He was on the track. A.G. Law School.

Yeah. Even though in the show when he asks her to marry him, She doesn't give an answer yet. And she was like, I need to know what I'm getting. Like, you're so spur of the moment. Like, I need to know. Like, do you plan on running for president one day? And he says no.

That's like, you can't say yes. Really? Like, she was like, I need to. Like, if you say it, then it won't come true. Right, right, right, right. Can't tell anyone. But I don't know. I wasn't alive during that time.

So I don't know, like, how, because the show was like a 10-year period. So I don't know, like, when he died, like, what his situation was. Yeah. And I was just thinking, just because, like, your dad was president. doesn't mean like we haven't had anyone except for no the Bushes that was like an era it was the Bush era too like where kind of America was obsessed with dynasties we were like we were ready to elect someone's son right George H dubs well George dubs it's the only one yeah but it was like in the era of the Kennedys and the bushes the bushes are I feel like are only remaining dynasty and then Jeb

Jeb jennah Bush Jenna of course um yeah we forget about the Bush is. We forget about Jeb. They're like akin most to the Kennedys kind of where there's like Lauren Bush, Lauren Lauren. Lauren. Ralph Lauren. Is that who that is? Yeah. She married Ralph Lauren's son, David Lauren and her name is Lauren Bush. She's not, but we thought, I thought she was Jenna's sister, but she's not, but she is a Bush. Okay. Barbara, you know, they're everywhere. Barbara. I don't know another family like that. Alive right now. Is Lauren Bush related to President Bush? Yes. Yes, she is.

And there's also another Bush brother, but I feel like he's kind of a loser. Like nobody knows his name. That could be Lauren Bush's dad. Oh, sorry. I wouldn't know. But like, you know, he probably has inner peace. And I just want to say JFK Jr. Such an EPO baby.

And I feel like they're leading with that. Yeah. They're like, but I mean more so like in his attitude, right? Like, I don't know who I am. Like more than just my family. Living in the shadow. Right. Of a great man.

Like seriously, there's no way. to not be living in the shadow. Yeah. You know? But that was back when America lived for nepotism, you know? Those are the days. Yeah.

Now it's like a curse, like a scarlet letter. People hide their parents. Like you're not allowed to talk about it in an interview, Ben Platt. But I think we should judge the man. I agree. What about that?

Neppo or not nepo? To nepo or not too nepo? That is the question. Are you ready for our next story? Oh my God, it's only our second story. Yeah, sorry, sorry. Harry Styles opened the Brit Awards with a performance of aperture, and the Brit Awards were this weekend.

Yes, the Brit Awards. Like, I don't live in Britain, so, like, I don't understand their significance, but it's akin to the Grammys. It's, like, a really big deal. I saw a bunch of news I saw Olivia Dean performing. I saw somber performing. Like, it was very, like, the same sort of people. Also, how come I had to find out for myself and no one told me

that Olivia Dean has a song called Love You Bye. Okay, Love You Bye. Didn't mean to pick a full. Bye, that's so true. That's my theme song. I don't think I knew that that was the name of the song. I just thought it was like a lyric. No, it's loved you by.

Yeah. Like if you had Raya, that would be the song that plays on your, or I guess like MySpace. So yes, the Brit Awards were this weekend. Harry Styles opened the show with the performance of his flop song aperture. I'm kidding.

Oh, and also we need to talk about, so funny, Harry Styles went on Royal Court. Yes. So summing up two questions that we have from last week. Where is Harry Styles? Why is he doing press? And what is this Britney Brosky show? Apparently it's very popular with Gen Z and I was like showing my age by not knowing it.

I hadn't heard of it literally until two days later, Harry Stiles, they have like a relationship. She's like a very public number one fan and they've met a couple of times. I think he likes a lot of her content. He thinks she's very funny. And so when it came time for him to leave the house and do press, somewhere safe, he went to royal court. And he talked about his hair plugs. So you know, there's been like, it's pretty much confirmed that he got plugs because a couple of years ago, his hair line was like very much receding on the sides.

then he had like a buzz era which you have to have when you get plugs you have to buzz your hair he was wearing a lot of hats and then he returned with like a perfectly straight full hairline so it's like confirm we don't even like need him to talk about it he was doing the interview with Brittany

and she was like are those your real teeth or something like as a joke he didn't wasn't expected to answer and he was like yeah this hairline though just pretty much confirming that like he got plugs which I love like normalized like getting plugs no I feel like that's why he doesn't he wasn't doing

because it's like... But the timeline of the plugs, it's like, the plugs have been settled now for like two, three years. But it's like, when you do these shows, like you really do have to like, open up.

Be authentic and you can't like come on with a new head of hair and like not talk about it. So I understand why like, maybe he's like, that's not for me. And the thing is like, I don't need to know

that Harry Styles got hair plugs. Confirmed. It sort of ruins the mystique. Yeah. I just feel like a lot of like... You can say, oh, no, he's supernatural. His hair line just grew back.

So when Harry Styles performed at the Bride Awards, I saw the comments. and it was all like, oh, sorry, Benson, Boone, your time is over. I feel like in the time that Harry's been gone, a lot of, like, male pop divas, like, have sort of come on the scene. Benson Boone being one of them. Somber being one of them. And I do feel like there isn't, you know, we say with the pop divas,

like there's room for them all. For the male pop divas, like there's actually not. No. There can only be so many. And I feel like Harry's kind of like on the balls of his ass a little bit. He is a little bit, especially with aperture. And that's why he had to, like, kind of debase himself at the Brits. doing a TikTok dance. Now this is a thing that I've seen a lot that's really pissing me off

that like, you know, a key way to get your song off the ground is to have a viral dance go along with it. And you can't really manufacture that. It just happens when it happens. There's no rhyme or reason why a song gets chosen. It's literally a teenage girl in her room doing the dance and it takes off. Like it's really very natural. A little bit though you can manufacture it when you're a big enough artist. So now I see big artists manufacturing it. Taylor. And it's so cringe. So when Taylor... Do you think that was not a good... He bit 100 on those. That one, when I watched the music video, I was like, oh, she's manufacturing a TikTok dance.

It's the perfect time. It was like 11 seconds. It was the best part of the song. It's three girls dancing. Like, it was so obvious to me that it was trying to be manufactured. Now, it took off hugely that it's not embarrassing or cringe because it worked. When I saw Harry on the awards doing like a dance that he's never done, I was like, okay, trying for TikTok. You thought he was trying to be on TikTok.

Of course. Like, me recreating the Harry Styles dance. And then, like, it just becomes a thing. the song didn't take off on TikTok. That's what I was saying last week. And in this day and age, for this, like, genre of music and this generation of people listening, like, if your song doesn't take off on TikTok, your song doesn't take off, period. But it could have taken off in another way with a different trend of like...

No, of course, but he's trying the dance. And that's, like, the most effective way. Yeah. Well, this is like a second stab at virality. The first one could have, you know, Daisy's didn't have a dance and it's all over TikTok. Justin Bieber. Yeah. Yeah.

Right, right, right. That is true. But it was all over TikTok. You have to be on TikTok. I'm saying like There are ways to do it outside of a dance Dancing is the most obvious Yeah and now he's doing that

When I saw honestly when I saw The little clip of him dancing like I didn't feel red flags Like I thought he was just having fun Oh no to me it was so manufactured virality And to me I like really I don't know why I Feel like he's very um Srupled

Like above that And just above doing things that he doesn't want to do putting out music he doesn't want to put out because if he was like he would say in one direction like you know be part of that. Yeah, I'm sure they would love that. I feel like he's very scrupled in his artisticness and like no one can be like, Harry, you have to do this or else you won't get played on the radio. He's like, so I won't get played on the radio.

So when I see him like doing something silly goofy, I'm like, oh, he felt silly goofy. Okay, so that's interesting. I think that also, and I think that's why like he released this random song with like this random cover art and this confusing album cover and did press from his couch. And then I feel like the results didn't yield. like, okay, we... I think he was used to, like, before he took his big break, like he could have done anything,

and he didn't have to try... It was just popular, like, Taylor Swift level. Like, you could release anything without any promo. And then he released this big song, and it didn't have the legs. And so now I feel like... He's like, okay, I'll listen to the marketing manager at the label. Yeah.

This is my theory on this all. I agree with you. That's how it feels. And I just want to say, like, I kind of like that because I feel like this happens to women all the time. And they, like, can never take a breath. And he thinks he can just, like... Can never take a breath.

And he's like... You want to be in the pop diva space? Like, you think you can phone it in? They never phone it in. Oh my God. Zara Larson's out here, like, working harder than anyone in this business to get herself out of the chaos. Everyone. Yeah.

Everyone. And they talk all the time about how, like, they, it ruins their lives that they can't take break. They can't have, like, normal relationships. They can't get pregnant because, like, the time that it were to require you to take off is you're forgotten about, especially after you turn 30, as Taylor very pointly pointed out in her documentary. So I'm just glad that it's equal for all genders. Agreed. Based on gender.

Exactly. Based on gender. So that's the Britta Wars recap. Yeah. Next, Tom Holland and Zendaya are married, says her stylist, Law Roach. So Law Roach revealed on the Actors' Words Red Carpet that the wedding has already happened. You missed it.

The reporter said, is that true? To which Roach laughed and confirmed, it's very true. Now everyone's like, I can't believe law would go behind Zendaya's back until... One thing about La Roach, when he said something about Zendaya, it's been cleared. Yeah. Zendaya doesn't give a fuck. about the public. Like, that's why she's so cool.

Like, and that's why she was able to get married without anyone knowing. Like, she doesn't do it for the fans. She's in love with her man. And, like, that's all that matters. So the fact that Law shared it, like, Zendaya probably just, like, wanted it out in, like, the least big deal of a way. Like, if she didn't interview, like, no, just Law telling everyone her business. Or...

Her law had a falling out, and this is his way of getting back at her. Or they're not married. Law's joking. Virgin. And he's throwing the scent off. now people won't be on wedding watch. Because, like, is he joking? It's kind of joking.

The thing about Zendaya, like I just said, she doesn't give a fuck. Like, she wouldn't come up with a plan to divert the public, you know? Yeah. She doesn't care about the public. Unless they just got married, like very, it's not like there was a big wedding.

His family, her family in law. And she needed a dress, so she has law. Yeah. Yeah. Well, regardless. I believe that they're married. And I believe that this is her way of announcing it in like a not big deal type of way

because she's not like a big deal type of girl. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. I love people who like love being private, you know. And like everybody says they want their privacy and then they go get paparazzied when, you know, the big ones Zendai included has proven you can get away with not being paparazzi. I don't see paparazzi pictures of Beyonce. And when I see paparazzi pictures of Taylor Swift, it's because she wants us to. Because she could have. I don't feel like all of them. In New York, like you can't get away with it. No, but like when she's always getting on her plane, like she didn't call them there. No, but the umbrella is like you can hide. Oh my God, but it's like so, they still get her through. the umbrellas. No, no, they get her feet, like literally on her purse. At a certain point, she can walk from her car to the plane without umbrellas and it doesn't mean she has them on privacy. Okay, but like the plane could be in the hangar and she could board on the hangar. Like, I'm just saying, like, she wanted to be seen. She wanted people to know she was leaving X destination. Like, there's a reason. But they saw her, they know, they track

her plane. But Taylor flies all the time and we don't see all the pictures. She wants us to know. You think she called them to the airport? No, I think she knows that they're always going to be there. So if she wanted to get away unscathed, like she, you know, boards in the hangar. That's what those hangars are four, you know. And you know, Taylor actually owns a couple of hangers. It's like a little business side venture of hers. Yeah. In Nashville. I feel like, all is that to say you can evade public paparazzi. You can evade that if you want to. And Zendaya just like does it so successfully that it makes you realize like everybody else who claims they want privacy. Like you don't. Yeah. You don't want it as bad as Zendaya. Right. Because it is possible. It's hard, but it's possible.

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And TMZ has confirmed the network is taking a hard look at Kelly's replacement this week, namely Pink. As one source connected to the show tells TMZ, Pink has what it takes, meaning she is the skill set to do an hour-long interview show. most importantly, the source says she's natural and friendly. Sources connected to the show say the show's staff loves pink and they're crossing their fingers that she's the one from NBC. So I want to say I think this is a bad call all around.

Okay. And I'm obviously protective of Kelly's time slot, so maybe that's that. But the thing that was so great about Kelly, and I think why the show, she was so open to doing it, is when the time came, like she really wasn't actively touring. And so it's, you know, you crave, a job that will give you stability, you know, she's a mom of two. With pink, she's almost always on the road.

And this job does not lend itself. And she's a very successful touring artist. This job doesn't lend itself to doing other things outside of it. It's very full time. Also, I think what's underrated about Kelly and people don't even really ever, I think, acknowledge us. And that's why she's so good for the job is daytime is very, it's fodder, right? It's like fill.

It's not filler. It's not like, you know, you're not having like hard conversations. And it's hard for, it's fluff. It's fluff. It's hard for someone to walk the line in this day and age without getting political. And I think that's why literally everyone loves Kelly Clarkson. Like I think that she's very joyful. She's very uplifting in a time when people need that. And she's not talking about literally anything that's going on outside of her show. And it's kind of like an escape for people. And there's very, very, very few people who can do that without getting shit. Right. Like you're not political. It's a privilege to not be political. But for some reason, Kelly just sort of gets away with it. And I think it actually benefits her in this particular job. Pink, for you. years is like very outspoken about a lot of different issues. I think that she wouldn't be able to maintain that level of escapism for people. Now some people crave that in a daytime show where they're

looking for more hard news or hot takes. But with Kelly's audience, I think they've really come to appreciate that it's just fun. We're singing. We're talking other girls. We're talking about motherhood. Like we're not talking about anything that high level or deep. And I think that the audience might not take to Pink's totally opposite approach that. Pink was one of the first people in the industry like talking about politics before now everyone does but like very much in like the shut up and sing era of like American music. She was one of the first. Like and I don't think she would change that, you know? Yeah. I would think of them more from like a music and career standpoint and I think they're like in the exact same spot in their careers and they both make music

that I love. So like to me they are sort of similar. But I agree with you and thinking about it like pink is is more divisive and like she said like divisive things not even like back in the day when like she was you know troubled teen but like just recently she's like a badass and you know she's always like if you don't like this don't listen to my music like you know which isn't someone who's for everyone all the time so i agree with you i imagine she wouldn't bring that kind of energy to this show but i also think pink's gonna pink she's very scrupled and she's not going to like shut her mouth to hold out job. Agreed. I can't imagine that she wants this job. I don't know. I feel like this is just like a rumor. Yeah. She's such a successful touring artist. It's just so funny how like back in the day

she was like one of the girlies and she was like the bad seed, right? Right. No, she would like had short hair and tattoos. And now she and you know singing like about how she's not like Jessica Simpson. And now she's the one who's America sweetheart. It's crazy. Because you know what? The cream rises. Like say what you want about pink. She is so fucking talented. And her music is so good. She never went. I mean, I know. No, I know. But I'm saying like when you look at it like sort of at a glance, like, why did she make it? She's still, of all those pop girlies, she's really the only one who's still touring. But it's also about, it's not just the music. It's head on her shoulders.

She is very headstrong. She's like the only one who didn't like lose her mind. It's so true. She never went through like a bad era because she was always this like bad gal. But it was very like it was manufactured. It was like an image. Like she herself has always been like very true to herself, very good head on her shoulders, very smart. And it's true. Like when you think. of that era that she came from she's sort of the last one standing yeah and like she's very tough and I think like no one like she was able to make it through that very hard time whereas everyone else

like sort of was manipulated and didn't that lost in the sauce lost in the sauce and they're back yeah of course you know but it like it no she never wavered it took a toll kind of sounds like the way we're describing her like she would make an amazing talk show host but and I actually agree that she would make an amazing talk show host but we're talking about filling the Kelly slot and like not And maybe she's just feeling Kelly Slott and it's the Pink Show and you're going to get some hot takes. But she's not the next Kelly because Kelly is for everyone. You couldn't. And it's not like I know anyone who would say like, I hate Pink, but I think if they heard some of the things that she said, they'd be like, oh.

That doesn't, that doesn't represent me. That's the cost of like being a person with a lot of opinions that you share. And I think Pink knows that and she kind of prides herself on that being like, well, if you don't agree with me, like, you don't have to listen to my music. You don't have to come to my show. Whereas like Kelly has always been for everyone. Yeah. So it's a very, I feel like we talk about it a lot in like a more jokey way with Jimmy Fallon. Like he kind of is for everyone because he just sort of like goes with the flow and say what

you want. Maybe that makes him unswerable, but it does make him successful. And I think he has like, you know, a good cue score because of it. Like he doesn't really wade where other people do. And maybe he's not having the most like intellectual monologues. You know who might be good for this? Let me think. It's like she might also be.

terrible. Who? But she might be good. Who? Katie Perry. Wow. I mean, I'm down to try. You know what? Like, she loves to be loved and she loves to be loved and like be out there and she has so much energy. Like maybe she needs to channel it. Does it have to be a pop star? Like, no, no, but if we're thinking of like the next Kelly Clark's and Katie is obviously like not as loved as Kelly, but like she needs to do something with all that energy. And I think a huge part of the show's success is the musical element of it. Like the Kelly Yoki, Katie Yoki. And I guess like Kelly Clarkson like owns the show. So like whoever she picks like it's like how Barbara Walters invented the view.

And like she still is cashing checks to this day. I think that if they take on the format of Kelly's show like she'll still be a part of it, which she should be. But yeah, the musical element, it doesn't have to be a pop star, but the musical element was something nobody else had done on TV before. And I think it really helped with the success, especially cater to a young audience. Like the Kelly Okees like going so viral and people like being put on to Kelly for the first time through her show. I think also a logical choice that people would. think about is Carrie Underwood. Oh, but Carrie Underwood is doing American Idol. Well, that and she's similar to pink but just sort of on the

opposite side. She's a homesteading tradway. She's a homesteading tradwife. She performed at the inauguration. Like she is divisive also in terms of like liberals would be like, I don't want to hear Carrie Underwood and conservatives would be like, I don't want to hear pink. Right, right, right. I think liberals is, they all agree. Kelly Clarkson and America sweetheart. Yeah. We can, she's the Venn diagram. She's a circle. And that's why I think daytime sort of like fell into this tough spot because everything's very political right now and daytime was always supposed to not be. And Kelly sort of, and that's why I feel like the network's probably freaking. Like, Kelly just got away with being Kelly and like just being for everyone and being like a fun

place where people were coming to talk about their projects, telling funny stories. And like that was it. But that's like Jennifer Hudson too. Yeah. Yeah. Jennifer Hudson does a really good job. And Jennifer Hudson does what I think Kelly hasn't done yet is Jennifer Hudson gets like really involved with like a lot of influencers go on Jennifer Hudson. And, like, I think they have guests on who I think maybe Kelly would think is like a little too low brow on, like, TikTokers.

And I feel like in this day and age, you kind of need to be open to the podcasters and the TikTokers. You know who else? I'm just going to give. Drew Barrymore? No. Oh, she does a good job. Kristen Bell seems like someone of this elk of like everybody loves her. And she sings.

And she sings. That's actually a really good call. Kristenoki. That's actually a really good call. You know what I like, karaoke. Yeah, but carry under one. Do you think that we've already fired her? That's a good.

Do you think that there's enough room in their house for two talk show hosts? Kristen Bell and Jack Shepard? Like, I think he would freak. Yeah, like those two are the most employed people on the planet. It's so true. It is so true. She's in everything. I would love to know their net worth.

Yeah, like watch out for them. Yeah. Oh, you could also like pluck from the podcast world. Yes, that's what I was thinking too. If you're like looking to get creative. We're not to miss of it all. We're America's sweethearts. We are.

Everybody loves us. You're seeing devil. I'm seeing Kelly Clarkson's replacement. I actually was not like. No, no, me either. But like it. Amy Poler. She's crushing it.

She's crushing it. Why would she want to go and do that? And like I actually don't think day time is also a really specific format. Like not everyone thrives in like short, weird segments like overly produced. No, it's just someone who's like super smiley and friendly and who people in Hollywood really like. Yeah. Yeah. I think we thrown out some really good options. And I would give Katie Perry a test week.

I would. Yeah. She's an unlikely. There's the thing. Whatever she's going to do is going to be bananas. And it might be good bananas or terrible bananas. Whatever. Move on.

First guest. Trudeau. Of course. Of course. She's got friends in high places. She does. Yeah. Everybody loves her.

Literally. Okay. I don't think it's pink. I just want to say that. Like we still have one more story. but that just felt like final to me. Oh, really? I knew we had another story.

Let me see it. Like, is it a good one or she'll skip it? It's like a little tea, little tea. I know you love this person. I do. Okay, go on. I love saying her name. I do love saying Shannon Mochler.

Shannon Mochler feels like lines were crossed when it came to co-parenting with Courtney Kardashian and ex- Travis Barker. So Shannon Mochler went on Britney Carton-Rites podcast. Yes, we love to see Britney making news. Day night. When reality hits. And she said that she's talking about co-parenting with Courtney. she said that she and Courtney have never had a conversation about co-parenting Travis's two kids, Alabama and Landon, who are Shannon's children as well.

She said, I don't think any of those women, I don't think those women have those conversations with anybody. At one point in time, I felt like it wasn't respectful. I felt at certain times it was kind of like, wow, if I had your kids, I wouldn't be doing some of the shit you're doing with my kids. I would make sure that if I was watching her children, I would have just made sure that lines weren't crossed. And I felt like there were some lines that were crossed. But it is what it is. It's happened. and I think we've all moved forward from it now.

She emphasized that she wouldn't rule out the possibility of sitting down with Courtney to have a conversation about their co-parenting preferences. Going on a podcast and talking about Courtney and co-parenting, it's not a good way to get her to sit down with you. It's not going to make it better. She admitted, I don't talk to that family. I don't like that family.

Oh, okay, yeah, she definitely wants to talk to you. Based on the limited things that I know about Travis's kids with Shana and their parenting agreement, it's that like if Courtney was involved, like it was for lack of just say what you want to say like I don't know many kids that live full time with their dad like that's abnormal based on as long as both parents are alive and like you know functioning it's kind of a red flag um and I think like if Courtney was ever too involved it's just because like there was space for her to be too involved I'm not going to like crack on her I do think

like sometimes like step parents over step I don't think that's what this is being like, I'm your mama. Like, it's disrespectful. Like, the kids have a mom. So I think you need to be really sensitive about that. And I feel like the girls would know that. And I feel like what she's referring to is like, I feel like these women talking about the Kardashians don't have those types of conversations because, you know, Dream was like living with Chloe and like co-parenting Chloe and Rob. And again, and I feel like in that situation, it was because there was space for Chloe to become that. And I think China would admit at the time

and I think she has said publicly that like she's very grateful to the Kardashians because now she's like a healed woman and she's doing really, really well. And she's full-time parenting dream, but there was a time where she couldn't because of the space that she was in. And I think she actually feels very grateful to the Kardashians for stepping in at a time when she couldn't. And so Shana sort of like clowning on Courtney for being there when it seems like Shana wasn't. Like shut your mouth. Yeah. Yeah. I just feel like the girls are what being criticized for being like overly parental to all the children in their life. I feel like they only do that when there is something missing. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know, her going on a podcast like with

Britney Cartwright to talk shit, like about the woman whose house Alabama lives in. Like, Alabama fucking loves Courtney. I know, and like Courtney, I mean, people like, knock, but she's, motherhood is so important to her parenthood. Also, she's talked so much about a blended family and like step-parenthood. I can't imagine just knowing like the characters in this situation and like what their values are of what we can know from just being fans. Like I imagine she tries to do right.

Obviously. And I think more typically when we talk about blended families, it's, you know, kids who come over every other weekend, right? Like it's not always both parents, the mom and the dad who are getting married have custody of the kids unless someone's like widowed or whatever. So I think that like the way we think about blended families, I don't often think about it like this. And I feel like the things we've heard over the years about like Shana as, you know, a parent. I don't really know anything. it's always been implied that she's just not

not as present yeah so it's like now you're going on a podcast to talk shit about the woman who literally built a house so that there was rooms for your kids like like seriously fuck off yeah it's really rude and then like I don't know the nature and just going on a podcast yeah exactly it's not even like your memoirs

it's like someone else it's not even your own podcast agreed like the nature of this conversation puts me off even more it's like being team Courtney yeah yeah um team Courtney so that's our show thank you so much for listening That's a wrap for today.

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