The Toast - A Few Days of Nastiness: Wednesday, September 9th, 2026

Episode Date: September 9, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and neighbor show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Wednesday. Yeah, that's right. An early hump day, thanks to Labor Day. Hope everyone's having a great day. The tourist is back to Durs in a row. How you durn, Jacks? I'm Dern good. I didn't realize that was happening, that it was a Wednesday.

I know. It's like, what are we doing this weekend? Midweek is upon us. What are we doing this weekend? We are Rosh Hashanahing. Oh, right. I totally like keep slipping my mind. I got to get outfits for shul. Yeah. So we have a very meaningful weekend, not like bus club, another bus, beach club.

Another club. Another club. Another beach club. No. We'll be pious women. But until then. As we usually are. Yes.

And also, as you guys know, if you've been listening to this show for the eight years, we've been doing it, the days in between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, like very sacred days in our religion. where... Yeah, there's two holidays. Usually, I think it's nine days between them. Yeah, there's ten days apart. And they're called The Days.

And those are the days where, like, you are either written into the book of life for the following year. You must be on your best behavior. So you want to be on your best behavior. So you're like, give something up. No, we don't give something up. You just...

No, no, I'm saying it's akin to Lent if you're trying to relate, like, you're on your best behavior, like, proving I can do it. That you should live another year. Yeah, so... It's actually a bummer with the toast just coming back that we're going to have to sort of zip it in a couple of days and like not talk or shit. But we still have a few more shows like to be the nastiest versions of

ourselves and I think we can do it. I think so too so just let it all out okay and we'll be better next year Hashem. Yeah. We um I probably like look so tired and you probably are wondering why I'm wearing my dairy boy tennis sweater. I can tell you exactly what's happening over there. Yeah. You stayed up late watching the US open. Not even. I like miss. so many good parts. I'm sorry, like a match that started at 11, girl, like, you know I was asleep. And it was just like a, it was kind of a big night. It was, first of all, battle of the female billionaires. Did I tell you that two girls. The other girls are billionaire too. Did I tell you that? Yeah. So the two billionaires played last night, a billionaire one, which one, it was

Jess Pagula. And then like the match of the century, my boyfriend Ben Sheltin versus everyone else's boyfriend Alcraz, started at 11. Like, I didn't even get to see one minute of it. Like, I've got to bed at 11 since I'm like 17. It was just absurd. And I missed the whole thing. It was apparently a game for the ages. It ended at 3 a.m. Ben Shelton won like the upset of the century.

Well, not upset because like we're happy. He's American. And apparently like the stadium was just going nuts for him. Like Al-Graz never could have won. Also Al-Graz threw up mid-match. And I actually saw the saddest video. Like he knew he was going to throw up. He was in his seat.

And he like has, you know when you're like sick and you have like a bowl. Like he had his towel. And the cameraman's like in his face. And he's like, go away. And you could see he's so sick. He's like, it's about to come back. And he's like, go away, go away. And the cameraman, like, won't fuck off.

And I know it's his job, but it's like he can't even, he can't even throw up in private. Like, it was actually like the saddest video I've ever seen in my life. That is sad. That is sad. And then the woman beater. That would never happen at Wimbledon. No, never.

The woman beater plays tonight must miss. So if anybody like wants me to watch something tonight, let me know because I'm free. What's on deck for tonight? Nothing. I actually, I don't know what to watch next. I was going to ask the audience. Like I almost started DCC last night, but then I was like, you know what?

I'm tired. I think I'll go to sleep. I know. I watch it like for personal enjoyment. I love the show and I love the girls. But I think I went to bed like by 9 p.m. I was just like, I'm going to take the win. Going to bed is everything.

Except I think I have a problem where I don't know how to physically sleep because I've pulled my back out again from like I woke up with my back out. And when I'm sleeping, I know I'm doing it badly. Like I know I'm in positions that are going to fuck with me. And like I think I need to take a sleeping class of like, what's the proper way to position your body for sleep so that like you're not hurting yourself? Oh, well, literally on the floor, no pillow like flat on your back.

That's how you're supposed to sleep. But if you're looking for the elite way to sleep, real ones now, it's on your belly with one leg like up and one leg straight with your hands under your pillow. I sleep with my shoulders up at my ears. Well, that's bad for your neck. And that's why my neck is always out. Yeah. I think we solve the problem.

You don't need to take a class. We figured it out. No, but then it's like, what's the right way to sleep? If I don't want to sleep on my belly, which sometimes I do. But if I want to sleep on my side and I shouldn't like tuck my shoulder all the way up to my ear, like how should I sleep? You just kind of need to relax. It sounds like you're holding a lot of tension in your neck.

The thing is I hold a lot of tension. But like the tension is what keeps me together, you know? Yeah. My tension is in my jaw. You ever like throughout the day just really? you're clenching so fucking hard. I feel like that also causes wrinkles and it's bad for your teeth.

That's where I hold it like right here. I'm gonna get jowls. I don't want to be less tense. Okay. Like that keeps this bus moving. Okay. But I should be so willy-nilly. I think my free spirit

definitely keeps my bus moving. Are you a free spirit? The thing is, I feel like we always ask these questions. Like are you this or you that? It's like every day I'm different. You know? And in some ways I am free spirited.

And in other ways, I am not. Yeah, I'm a very caged spirit. These, like, personality quizzes, you know, like, I don't fall into them. Like, literally depending on how I slept the night before, I'm a different person today than I was yesterday. But part of being a podcaster is constantly identifying your personality traits. Yeah, Enagram. What number am I always forget three? Which is classic three.

Is it? To always forget. Yeah, Jackie's a one. I'm an engram one. Like I said, the tension. and hold it together. Oh, let's talk about the major success that was yesterday's episode.

Like everyone was so excited. I know you're not on TikTok, but like, oh my God, I was kidding. Oh, war is over. So many TikToks. Our episode was like number four overall. Like we're literally so fucking back. I love being missed.

I hate feeling like, oh yeah, those girls do the show every day, like enough of them. And then it's like, oh my God, every day. Like, it was just, I need to bottle up the feeling of being so adored because it's very frequent. It is.

It is. it is I'm sure soon you know they'll be back to their complaints what are these stories I need to bottle up that feeling of adoration and like wear it as a perfume once a week yeah yeah we're back and today

DTQ don't worry I've selected oh man they were cracking me up I also want a shout out there was a girl who wrote in I'm not going to choose it but I just felt like because like I didn't think it would be good content but I want to if you're hearing this if you wrote in about your wedding dress she basically like she sent us pictures she was like I picked this dress out with my mom and like made this most amazing memory. I don't know. The mom might have passed away or something, but like the mom. And then she went back to the store with her mother-in-law and like ended up

finding a dress that she likes even more. And she's like, should I wear the other dress to preserve the memory of my mom or the new dress? And I was going to say, of course, like, you know, how different can they be? Where the one with your mom? Let me tell you, body was T in the second one and your mother would want you to show off that bod in the second one. So to the girl who wrote in, in, wear the dress that your mother-in-law picked out. Who cares? I agree. But also, are you sure the mother had passed? It sounded like you sort of added that. I just like I don't really recall but the story makes more sense if the mom's dead I guess but maybe it's also just like it also makes sense if she's alive and it's like

war of the you know they would both be either way body T wins yeah body adiotti like honestly I didn't I didn't know what you were working with when I saw the first picture and then the second picture I said oh that's what she's working with the best stress wins period politics aside so it was like a little bonus. We do have three other submissions that were making me crack. I was like cracking up this morning. And you know what? You were looking forward to it as well. I realized that I was so excited to record because I really, I'm looking forward to cracking up. Me as well. Yeah, it's such a good feeling. Something was cracking. Yeah. Oh, that real. The toast is my crack pipe. That's beautiful.

The toast is my crack pipe. The real that I sent you that Ben had reposted of like your nightmare when you're in the bathroom. When you're like in a bathroom. When you're like in a bathroom. You sent it to me this morning? No, no, no, a couple days ago. I think that was the last. I was thinking about the last time I, like, cracked up, like, to oblivion. Oh, the last time I actually cracked up to oblivion was right before this watching Tim Dillon do Lindsay Clancy. Oh, my God.

I keep seeing these clips. I should just sit down and watch a whole episode because every clip is making me crack up. And he was talking about, like, do you think the kids who are being brought to the courthouse wonder what they're doing there? Like, it was seriously, it was cracking me up. I won't do it justice. but that's on my content list. And you should just watch that episode in full because the clips are really bringing me joy.

It sounds like he's speaking to you. You found a lone friend in the trial. And he said he's really impressed that Lindsay Clancy like freed herself from the shackles of domesticity. Like, and it kind of a unique and special way. Unique and special for sure. He was being really funny.

Yeah. That's good stuff. So the stories today, I'm sure we have like a little bit of spillage. A little bit of spillage. Yes. There was two stories from yesterday that we didn't get to talk about that, like, still are more significant, I think, than what, the direct that came up today.

Right. But we are already back to direct, which is insane. And I go back to Drek. It's insane that day too, like, there's Drek once again. Food news? Any food food food rent? No, no. No, I try to, like, make it seem normal.

And hopefully you guys don't even, like, know. Hopefully I put on such, like, a good spin. that you guys don't even know what I think is Drek, but just no. I think we're going to be able to figure it out. No, like, it just,

it just really took a nose time so fast from, like, I thought we had at least like three days of, of stories abounding, Bountiful stories. Right, right. But now. The thing is yesterday's episode was two hours.

Maybe we should have made it one hour so that we would have, like, save some of the stories, but like we couldn't. Because I also didn't see, and I'm grateful, like a lot of comments yesterday. I did not see being like,

why don't you talk about, blah, blah, blah. Like, I felt like we covered the topics. We covered. I think so, too. So let's see what today has in store is all I'll say. Let's see what fresh hell this morning brings. I make no promise. But fresh, drek.

The fast time, trek you need to know. And you guys might not have even noticed yesterday's episode was so dramatic. Like, in the middle of it, Jackie's power went out. My power went out. I thought we like blew a fuse because my studio, like, couldn't handle us being back. But turns out my whole. Us being like so on fire. Like popping off lights, camera action.

No, the whole neighborhood went out for a couple minutes. And then it came back. So we were able to resume. But it was like kind of scary. Like are we going to go out again? We almost lost all of our footage. Because also this is like storm season in Florida. Every day there's a storm.

There wasn't. It's usually in the afternoon and the evening. But I think the storm from two days ago really sort of rattled the grid. And like yesterday morning I think we were feeling some aftershocks. Are you going to make a chilly? My stove. isn't working yet, so no. Today, my stove is supposed...

You can get a hot plate or, Jackie, you could do a crock pot, chili. I could do a crock pot chili. Don't you make chili in the crock pot? It's so true. Sometimes stove, sometimes crock pot, but that's an amazing suggestion. However, I don't think I can make a chili because my back is out, so I don't think I can be, like, standing up in the kitchen for that long. But that's the thing about chili.

Like, you just let it simmer. Chopping onions. The me's on place. But every day, I say the stove is getting fixed today. I think today's the day. Well, you know, I lived through most of COVID without a stove. Do you know that? No, I don't know that.

Why? Like the gas line in my building, my old building, went out like the day before COVID started. And they were like, it's going to be months. So I didn't have, I used a hot plate, which like is a hot plate like just a stove? Yeah. It wasn't that big of a deal. Like a portable stove. But it being COVID like didn't help.

That's a big deal for Ben. Yeah. It was actually, you know what? I'm minimizing my own trauma. Like it was a big deal. It's really crazy. It's really frustrating. We can't make eggs every morning.

We usually make eggs every morning. And now we can't, like for the last week. So I've made Ed bites in the oven. At least we still have the oven. Also good. Also good. Yeah, yeah. But like, I don't know.

You know, actually, one of my favorite content creators on TikTok, who's name, like, completely. I have no idea what it is, but she's my favorite. She's like, here's what I made for the week. And she makes, like, insane amounts of food. She has, like, five kids. And her oven was out for, like, the last month. Wait, Claudia, I think I saw what she made when her oven came back. Oh, well.

she had gotten this like kind of stove top oven to make her she makes egg bites she makes bread she makes like a ton of shit like I think I saw I think I think I encountered her yesterday because she was like I just got my new oven let's meal prep I love her for the meal prep for the week for the week and it was amazing stuff she put the hot dogs in the corn muffins yes she makes muffins of the week she makes um like a million different bread she makes a lot of sourdough sandwich bread and then she does like a special flavor um she made it Egg salad because her son asked for egg salad for lunch that week. And she actually really inspired me. Like I haven't done it yet, but like I will. She was like, I always have like these huge plastic trays of like charcutory and fruit. She's like, I'll just leave them out. And she's like, the kids do eat it. Yeah, I saw.

And she said for the first time she added edamami, not edamami. Or snap me. Yes. Yes, I saw that as well. And you know what? Like I am going to do that because cutting fruit for every meal is like so annoying. Yeah. That's cute.

Whereas if you meal prep. Yeah. I've heard that if you... She's like really influencing me. I've heard that if you leave like a plate of like... Fruits and veggies. I mean veggies. The fruits obviously like the kids will eat.

But apparently if you leave like veggies, like eventually they'll eat it. But I can't really do that because Bruno will eat it. Yesterday I was carving up a rotissory chicken and I gave Harry like a bone because he wanted to eat the meat off the bone, which was exciting. So cute. And I literally turned around and Bruno got it and he didn't even chew, Claudia. I couldn't even chew. Oh my God.

How is he going to pass it? TBD. You better watch out for that. TBD. I told that if you find a chicken bone, a whole chicken bone. That's what it is. Don't be alarmed. It was the craziest thing.

I was a little bit happy for him because, you know, dogs love bones. But they say like dogs shouldn't have chicken bones or something. Oh, please. They're fine. Bruno will be fine. He has a stomach of steel. And speaking of Romeo, he's at his grandparents, of course. I had him the whole summer.

I just want credit for that. But of course, the second we got home, we had lunch with Ben's parents, and they were like, do you want us to take Romeo? And I was like, yeah. That's a great idea. Yeah, actually, I do. So I'll see you in a couple of weeks, Romeo. Rodeo. Well, I also want to give a little bit of a Bruno update because last we spoke like he was majorly suffering.

Enormous. Enormous. And suffering. From childhood obesity. Bruno is thriving. Bruno is thriving. Bruno got a haircut. He looks like his young, Sprightly self.

There's something about the Hamptons that are so terrible for Bruno. Like, he looks bad. He feels bad. He acts bad. It's so bad for him there. And then we come home and it's the same old broody. Well, we also, both dogs at the end of the summer ended up looking like a mess because I didn't even tell you guys that kind of cardboard nightmare happened to me.

I set up a grooming session for the dogs, Bruno and Romeo. And at the beginning of summer and it was such a great service. Like honestly, but the thing is everything in the Hamptons is just like 10x pricing what it would be. So I did it all on my phone. It was like this mobile service. They were literally so nice and they did an amazing job. Like I don't have any. They did the ticks.

They did everything. And then I was like, you know, getting my mobile receipt. Like I had my credit card. Guys, two dog grooming sessions. Like I can't. I'm like ashamed to even say that it was almost $800 for two dogs to get groomed. I said, Jackie, we are not getting a sit like one more groominging. So by the time we left, they hadn't been groomed in like eight weeks.

They both looked horrible. Romeo still hasn't been groomed. They looked horrible. Bruno has been groomed. Bruno is like thriving in the new house and he's just back to his old Bruce self. So I just want to update everyone. That's good.

We have stabilized. Yeah. And I actually haven't stabilized since the $800. And I texted them and I couldn't believe it. And I guess what they had told me they were like, yeah, it's like $250 each. And then like tax, tip, I guess maybe we like upgraded with the nail clipping or whatever.

Add-ons. Anal glands. $800. I almost choked. That's insane because that's $400 per pup, which is more than I would pay for a haircut for myself. For myself. Yeah, of course.

Me and my face framing layers. Like, they did get face framing layers, though. They did. And they looked great. But I honestly, I couldn't believe it. Yeah.

So we have a lot to do direct to get through and toasters to deer. I am open and available to getting started if you are. I'm available because like always, we could always, you know, go back. Of course. So without further a do-da-do-do-do.

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When we talk about low-lift wellness hacks, like this couldn't be easier. Check it out. Thank you, Tert-It-Out. You're welcome. Our first story, let's go with something fun. Caleb McDaniel is the new face of Real Activese. So Caleb from Love Island, USA, who was definitely a fan favorite, maybe not an Islander favorite. Islander favorite.

He just booked an ad. campaign for Alex Earls, Real Activist, her skincare line. He is like the first celebrity face that's not her of the line. Um, this feels so random to me. Like I was so, people were gagged over it and I was like, yeah, I guess. But like, I want to say, I love the idea of Rayall activists, like entering the skims road space where you're getting, it shouldn't all be on Alex and a really good celebrity founded brand. Eventually, like as, uh, what's the word help? Like, Delegates. No, eventually like has not. nothing to do with the celebrity founder. People forget Fabletics was started by Kate Hudson.

You know what I mean? Like eventually it's like built on the back of that celebrity, but then it exists completely on its own without. And I think like bringing in other models, other spokespeople, not every photo shoot being Alex Earl is great. This one feels random. Like I can't lie. And also I feel like the Caleb, I think that they're limited in when they could like do stuff. I think they had to wait for the reunion or whatever. This just feels like kind a late and random. Yeah, I am no longer like on the pulse of what's happening with the Love Island people after the villa.

But I guess, like, Caleb got a lot of followers. Oh, did he? I think he, he like got one of the most for the men, like in sort of a Jalen sort of way. I think.

Honestly, it's never too late to do a skincare campaign with Jalen. No. Actually, it might be too late. What's his last name? Oh, McDaniel. he does have 1.5 million on TikTok, which is crazy because I think the winner, which is, I think she has the most Trinity. She has three six.

Yeah. How much does like Bryce have? Let's see. For the men, because the women always get more. They're just more interesting to follow. Bryce, Aleckeye, one nine. So yeah, he's up there. He got a lot of followers considering his role on the show.

But maybe because everybody felt the great injustice that was nobody giving him the time of day. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. so happy for him. And so Alex and Rayal have started like this new campaign like dirty thoughts, clean skin. And I guess it's just like hot guys doing skin care in the nude. And I love, I love it being men. Like I love that. I think that this is a great avenue for them to go down.

Yeah. It's like how can we double like a Gen Z version of like what Skims was doing? How can we double our revenue? Cater to men. Who else has skin? Yeah, this is a great idea. And I guess like this is very Gen Z like topical. I also have like completely fallen off. I'm not only may not interested in what the love island villa mates are up to. Like I genuinely wish them the worst for how they ruined my summer. Like I want nothing to do with them. I know, but Claudia. I guess people are still engaging. I watched the reunion. Oh, you did? I did. Because like, I'm

gonna put, I'm gonna close up shop here. Of course. I want to see like what happened. Um, and it was very strange. I don't really know what my takeaway is. I think like Kada got a lot of hate. She like said something sort of like the, I saw she got dropped from like a charity event. Yeah. She was being like She said something like sort of, I guess, anti-feminist, like, because... Queen, what did she say? Caleb and Jaden, is that the name of his lady from Casa?

Sure. You know the blonde girl. Yeah, I know her and I'm. So, like, they were already fighting on the show. Like, they were seriously, like, the worst couple. But then they got... Agreed. They left the villa, and I think they, like, had a hard time seeing each other, but they were

still in touch. She was, like, sort of leading her on, like, making her think that they're together. But he was also, like, saying that he didn't want to be together. They're just like mixed signals, I think, just like being immature. And then they, um, and they had like hooked up the day after they left the villa when they were in that hotel. Like they had sex. Oh.

And then. That's weird. They like couldn't stand each other in the villa. Yeah. It was like a month and a half. They didn't see each other. They're like, you know, on the phone like, you know, mixed signals, whatever. He's like, I think he blew up and was just sort of like, yeah, bye.

Gotta go, Jaden. And then they saw each other again in the Hamptons, like I guess a month, month and a half later. And they had sex again. Oh. And then she was like still railing on him for like leading her on and all this stuff, all of his behavior. And like, Kada said something. She was like, what? Did she say like, well, why did you keep having sex with him?

Yeah, she said like, well, it takes two people to have sex. Like you made that choice. Okay. I just want to say that's my queen right there. Like bring back accountability. It takes two people to have sex. Yeah. So it sounded like she was sort of like slut shaming her.

I didn't take it that way. No, that's not slut shaming. It's just like you can't be so mad at someone if you're also actively engaging and rewarding that negative behavior. Yeah. Yeah. Like, so that was like, I saw, I saw, I saw Melanie and Kenzie really getting into it. Yeah, I feel like with them, it was very weird. Also, Kenzie, like, said like, Melanie's her breast friend in the villa, but she's also said that about Jen. Wait, I'm sorry. Are Melanie and sincere together? Like, they're not official, but yes, they were like, Oh, then I don't want to hear anything. Melanie has a same. Helding each other's, holding each other.

I just want to say they played a roundup of, like, sincere's worst moments. No, like, all of his metaphors and analogies. Claudia, I was laughing so hard. Like it actually, it could rehabilitate him. She's chocolate cookie and I'm brownie cooking. And I don't like apple pie, but maybe I would like this apple pie. He's genuinely the weirdest person I've ever met in my life. It was so insane.

And I actually felt like for Kenzie, it's not even like the girls left her out. I feel like the way that America has positioned, like the fab for whatever the core for. Yeah. Like that inherently leaves out Kenzie. She's the fifth. And she's an OG. Yeah. Kada isn't.

Yeah. Also, Kada had like a bit of an attitude at three and she like clapped back with Andy a little bit. And I just want to say I think she's so warranted for having an attitude. I think the show did her so dirty. They made the audience like turned on her for literally no reason. And like they made her relationship look like shit. They like edited so that her man looks like gay for another guy who doesn't like him. Like in a correct world like Keda and Zach should have come in second place.

They were the second strongest couple there. The only thing that, you know, they went through that. a thing with the angel who got eliminated. And Bryce and Trinity, we're always going to win. But Caden, to actually not have been fourth place on the balls of their ass, like maybe even getting eliminated. They're a stronger couple than Melanie and sincere. Are you joking me?

And Carlin and I, who are still keeping up the front. Oh, please. Yeah, they made it to the reunion. So let's see what happens after. They were never going to, like, break up before the reunion. But people are still like, I just can't with them. No, and that's why, like, I didn't watch the reunion because I feel that I'm just in a different place emotionally, physically, spiritually than everyone else who

watches this show. And it's, like, frustrating to always be. fighting with people, like for real. And the person who had the worst for union? Let me think, let me think, let me think. Oh, I know. Soul. Worst.

And like, I thought it would be redemptive. Like, all the footage is out now. Soul, and everyone agreed, like, Sol was wronged. And I guess she said this, like, one thing in an Instagram live and, like, it was the end of her. Yeah, and, like, she was proven to be a liar. She's also, like, was talking too much shit on Instagram directly after.

Yeah. Yeah. And she's, but the shit she went through. through like girl say your piece yeah but she sort of had to answer for everything she wore a wig right she wore a wig which I don't think I feel that she's like the opposite of samson like her strength was in her pixie I agree the wig did not help her yeah right and then they actually played a clip that was amazing for Melanie I think it was like oh after I don't know maybe it was after soul got pied her soul was upset one of the time she was upset in the villa and Melanie like went and

had a conversation with her and was like, I'm sorry if we've made you feel excluded. Like that was so wrong. Like, I'm here for you. I'm your friend. I'm moving on from sincere. Like, you can have him. And then Sol was like sharing her story of how she's been homeless. And Melanie was like, you will never.

Wait, was this on the show? Not this conversation. This was a, no, this was like, edited out. Yeah. Why? And Melanie was like to her, you'll never be homeless again with me as your friend. Like, I've got you if you ever need anything. Like, it was really.

a good look. Oh shit. And a bad look for soul. For soul to go whenever she got eliminated to go and like talk this shit. Yeah. Yeah. It was like wow. It was a good reunion for Melanie I would say even though she still was sincere like she was able to just like hold her own and honestly with all the time that's past like I'm just sort of over whatever he did. He's not over it. No, I'm not over it. No the thing about sincere. The thing about sincere she's just an idiot. like I don't think so because I think when you say someone's an idiot it like offuscates them of like their evil wrongdoing and I do believe that there's something deeply sinister and like malicious in his intent I don't know sort of the sting was out at the ring and she's with him and I'm like that's why I feel always that's why they wait so fucking long like yeah this thing is out of everything I don't care about these people anymore like at one point it ran my life yeah and now like I literally don't care what happens to these people and honestly I think someone who had a great season just a great arc and like it's really just really just winning from the show is like someone like Jen.

Like, came on the show with a career in this world, gained over a million followers. She has fans and haters or whatever, but like her life is just like made now, you know? And it's just like a much better version of what it was before. Yeah, yeah. She actually liked my TikToks this morning.

I think she might be a toaster. I hope she is. I really like her. She has such a fun person. She doesn't take it too serious. She's just like laughing. She doesn't look like anyone. I feel like everybody just looks the same.

She's so interesting to look at. Yeah. She really is. She's very gorgeous. She's an amazing model. And I wish her the best. And every brand that works with her, I'm like, that's so smart.

Yeah. Well, Caleb McDaniel for Real Activists. And now Caleb, and I think Caleb and Jen are best friends. I think they went to Japan together. I ship. It was kind of weird on Earl Meets World to hear them talking about real actives.

I'm like, what is that? And they just call it real. They don't say real active. That's a problem for me. And I was like, you guys are pronouncing it wrong. That was difficult for me. me to hear. It was. It's Real.

And I feel like our version is like so much more worldly and cosmopolitan. Real Activis. I know. They should just consider. Or we could compromise like Real Activis. Real Activis. I don't know. For me, the magic is in the Activis. You get activated by the Activist. Exactly.

For me personally. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Martha Stewart made a cameo on last night's episode of Real House Eyes of New York sharing eerie details of her final conversation

with JFK Jr. It's crazy how like love story and like sorry, you continue. Like the timing, don't you just think is weird? Like Carol Enroni, love story, like all at the same time whereas the JFK Jr. whole saga

like really hasn't come up again since. Well, I would say maybe this conversation was filmed like when Love Story was airing. Was out, yeah. But the Carol thing is just always an adjacent point to it. Yeah. And he was talking about, I saw a clip on Watch Shepin's Live. What was you?

Like it's like, it's like, he's like, the timing. And I don't think that they only, I don't think they cast her because the, uh, show was on and JFK was like back in the zeit. It was truly just a coincidence. Yeah. Yeah. That one is a coincidence. I just want to say like, I think it's really weird that Carol's on this Roney.

Like it makes no sense to it. I didn't watch and maybe it's working. Like, and I actually, Andy said, like, Carol's really in the mix. Like, she's friends with a lot of these girls. Carol said she knew more of these girls going into this filming than she knew of the women on season five. It just makes no sense to me. That's so crazy.

Well, Martha Stewart, whose makeup artist is a cast member on Real Housewives of New York City. Her makeup artist is new cast member, Daisy Toy. Jackie, do you know that we just met her? Yes, I did. Okay. I don't know if you put that together. Yes, yes, yes. She's Daisy Toy now.

Literally. So Daisy's doing Martha's makeup and Martha shares the final conversation that she had with JFK Jr. She said that she was with John John the Monday before the Friday when they died. She said he called me. At the time she was running Martha Stewart Living Magazine and he called me. He said he's in trouble. He was running George at the time. Oh.

His political lifestyle magazine. Big loser magazine if you watch a show. Yeah, but she had started four years earlier. So she said, of course, anything you want. And they had a very nice dinner together where Martha. then asked JFK about his weekend plans. He said, oh, we're going to a wedding in Martha's vineyard, and I'm taking my wife and her sister.

He told Martha that he was flying them in a plane, which prompted her to suggest getting a co-pilot. And he said, I don't need a co-pilot. And Martha admitted to Daisy that she thought about that many times that I told him to go get a co-pilot. Oh, wow. Well, the lesson is we should always listen to Martha Stewart. Yeah.

that's spooky it's very nice of martha to film it's very nice of martha to film but like martha because don't you feel it's like a little beneath her but martha says yes to stuff martha says yes to stuff and martha likes being in the cultural mix in ways that you wouldn't expect her to be it's true like snoop dog like she is sort of this unexpected yeah so i i feel like she has she doesn't really like put herself above anything which i think is why people is why she's so relatable even though everything she does is like very high-brown

and she is better than us but she comes right and she gets to her slums it with us on Roney. Yeah. I guess it's like after prison, you know, Roney is a breeze. Oh my God. I forgot that she went to prison. That's how you know she's had like a successful rebound. Yeah. Oh, I saw somebody in the comments yesterday. I just want a shout out, gave a really good suggestion for what we should be calling them exit. And it's called regregs it because they regret exiting. I love it. Yeah, I thought that was good. Regregs it. I also saw in just like a little bit

of an update. Harry, like, has not spoken to Charles in the two weeks since they landed in the UK. Like, that's, like, seriously crazy. Yeah. And I just want to say, like, if they thought the American media, like, was turning on them and they had no privacy or whatever, it never ceases to blow in my mind. Like, what, historically, when you watch the crown, like, back in the day and today, the amount, like, the level of detail that the British tabloids know about the royals, they have so many leaks. Yeah. And most of them, like, end up being true.

leaks and also what are the opposite of leaks drips like when or like what oh are you saying when you intentionally go to media yeah like fed information yeah like you're talking to the press yeah but i guess like if something's leaking on purpose like it's you're just turning the faucet on you turn the faucet on that's what i would call it so they have leaks and faucet on nidge yeah and none of it's good for harry and megan no no it's not so like what are they doing there if they have no fan family. I don't know. And I imagine so much of your social life as a royal, like, is connected to your family. So I don't know if they have like a shit ton of friends. I think a lot of people want to stay within the good graces of the royal family. Yeah, they definitely have a couple friends though. I feel like he has a couple friends. Like from Eaton. And like from like, did you see. Polo. George started eating yesterday. Did I see? Did I see? I actually, as a mama, somebody did like a side by side of his like first part of yesterday started eating. And like, first of all, like I got choked up. I was like, oh my God. Like that's so cute. And second of all, he looks just like his dad.

I know that's how jeans work. But like he really does. They are so cute. That was so cute. Like more of that, please. Yeah, agreed. Like, love that shit. But sorry, no, more of Megs McGraths it.

Like, I could never stop talking about it forever and ever. Forever and ever. Maybe, I don't think this is true. But like, maybe the cost of living is less over there. But I don't think that's true. No, not the way they live. Yeah. But I think it's big no matter where they go.

Yeah, but they're not like saving a couple bucks there versus here taxes. I don't know how it works. Where are they living? Like not on royal property, right? No, Charles made that clear. Yeah. Charles. Like where did Beatrice and Eugenie live?

Like in private, regular, like they pay rent. Yeah? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Lady Gaga and Michael Polanski's friends believe that they have eloped as the couple has remained

out of the spotlight for over a month. Were they engaged? Yes, I believe they were engaged. And now friends are saying no one has seen or heard from her in over a month. Everyone in her circle thinks that she's eloped with Michael and is on her honeymoon now trying to make a baby. Oh my God. Mama Gaga. I love that.

Personally, like this hurts because it means her and Taylor, whatever his name, like are officially not getting back together. No, and that hurts because like to me that was the one for her. This rate, I think she's been with Michael longer than she was with Taylor. And so that's not about length of time. No, but for me, like, that's when I can move on. That's like when they were saying on Erholmeet's world, like, it can take up to half the time of the relationship to get over someone. And so for- Jackie, what is his name?

Michael Polanski. No, Taylor. Not Sharon and not Kit. Kinney, Chicago PD or whatever. Yeah. I seriously wish him the best. Lady Gaga is the one that got away. As is he.

But now that, I like Lady and Michael. I do. Lady Polanski. Lady Polanski. It is nice when somebody marries a normie, I think. It's like a normie within the industry. She tried to do that with that CAA agent, Christian, or whatever. It didn't work out.

I do think like when you are... She kind of always has a man. Oh, yeah. She's like Alex Earl coded. Monogamous. Cyril monogamous. No, but you would think like she'd be the type. But she's the opposite of Alex Earl because like Alex Earl like goes for the obvious choices, right?

Like football players, Tom Brady. And like, Lady Gaga's like, Always pull, even Taylor Kinney, who I love, like, couldn't have been more random. He's like a soap opera star. But there is a kind of girl who, like, always has a boyfriend. Mm-hmm. Her friends would say can't be alone. I think that's what Alex Earl is trying to get over, heal herself from right now.

And low-key Lady Gaga is that kind of girl. I mean, of course, not to bring up again, but if you watch five foot two, like, she's just been through her breakup, she is alone and she's really not doing well. Yeah. You would just think, like, because of her art, like, she'd be so independent or even, like, you polyamorous. The thing is, like, Lady Gaga is truly just a stage presence. Like, she's

Stephanie Germanada. She's a traditional girl. She is. She's like Italian from New York. Like, she's going to get married and have a boyfriend. She's going to have a boyfriend. A thousand percent, multiple. Well, she might have a husband. Mother Gaga. I feel, what do they call her mother, right?

Like, I think that that's a title that, I just, I am toxic like now and I just want all my my pop mom, my pop stars to become mamas. Yeah. And obviously this whole time I was thinking about Taylor Swift, but yeah, Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga. That's what we need. Miley. Miley. She's been like with that guy for a long time. She's also like so random. I know. She also always has a boyfriend. I fear that like the more random and unknown your man is, while it's less interesting for me, you do have a higher rate of success. For sure. On so many, like seriously,

who is Miley Cyrus's boyfriend? Are they married? I think his name's Max. And it's like a partnership. Like it's not a boyfriend. They're not married. They're in a long-term relationship. Right. What's his name? Mullet is his name. Yeah, like he has a mullet.

His name's maxed with two X's, Miranda. He's a drummer in a rock band. Perfect. Let me ask you a question. I was watching a tennis match and the guy's last name was B-L-O-C-X. How are you pronouncing that? I think he was Belgian. Bloksh.

Wachsh. My pronunciations are the way that I read things are getting worse. It's getting so much worse. It's crazy. Every time I do it, I feel that it's a sign of intelligence. I agree.

Like, me new. Me new, menu. Yeah. I've always loved to have a good time just with words. I think that it speaks to our vast imaginations and our ability to just be silly and see the good.

And also, you know sometimes it presents i don't know what this condition i have is but sometimes it prevents no it presents itself in numbers too like if i absolutely a five is an s no no no like if i see the number like eight one six and you're like what does that say i would say like 81 six oh oh oh oh i assign like letter sounds to numbers so like if you wrote out like let me just what looks like So 816 would be like, sis, yeah, because. No, because, like, to me, if I see a nine, it's an N. You know, so it's like 9-5.

Like, I can't explain it. Maybe it is dyslexia. No, that's different. And then, you know, there are people. We are different. But so I was saying, like, if you asked me to read, like, what does that number say? I would say 816. And that would be wrong.

Oh. So if we were, like, looking for someone's house. Yeah, house. And the address was 816, Codeger Boulevard. You would say it's 816, Coder Boulevard. That's actually you need help. That's wrong. That's weird.

I don't like it. It's incorrect. It's incorrect. No, Minu is a fun way, a flirty way to say menu. Tears. Tears. Are you ready for our next story? Four?

Number four. Yeah. It's kind of a big one, something that's been developing. And you know what? I'm going to talk about it. Oh, my God. Because Northwest has been long. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah.

The official launching of Northwest. She headlined her first solo concert in Chicago with her parents' support on opposite sides of the balcony. But there has been like a concerted effort in the last few weeks that Northwest is officially a public figure. Out there. Yeah, she did a magazine cover. She had her big photo shoot.

I think she's pursuing music as far as I can understand. Based on the fact that she held a concert and she sang on stage. Yeah, it's very goth. I feel that I don't understand it. The audience was comprised of adults, which I also don't understand. And were they singing along? No.

Were the original songs? I think so. Familiar. Okay. Like the comment going around, which is like seriously mean because she's a child, but like when you put yourself out there,

like then you're open to the internet, it's like her father's confidence and her mother's talent. Like that's what people say. Oh man, you guys are mean. So mean. That is mean. Here's the thing.

I feel like for the last few years every time she stepped out in whatever she's wearing and people like make comments and judge the parenting and it's like just feels wrong even if to me that just having a comment on it feels wrong because like she's a child and she's trying to express herself and like it's whatever but now it's like this is what they want they want they've put her out there at magazine covers music tour whatever

how old is she she's 13 years old 13 it's really young and and they want and when you like are an artist or putting out art, like you want it to become a part of the culture, like you want to be spoken about on the toast. That would be a successful show for you. So now it's like we're being forced to comment on it. It's no longer like a kindness to not comment on it.

Yeah. And I think when you're 13, first of all, that's so young. Second of all, like you're very much experimenting with like clothes and makeup and like looks. I don't think in five years she's still going to be this like goth queen. So it's like a very permanent sort of marker on a temporary time.

And I think that's like, why kids deserve to grow up in private. And I think that they have a skewed view of like, they, because they all got into it super young, Kendall and Kylie, and like it all worked out great for them. Yeah. But it feels wrong.

And it's hard for me because I, I want to, like, I trust my faves. And I think Kim is like so smart. I think she's so family-oriented. Good mom. She's an amazing mother. And I don't understand this. But I also, I don't either.

she believes that this is the right thing to do. Or I guess like this is just, you know, a very rich and famous person's version of like letting kids be kids. Like if you had a kid that was 13 and they wanted to like dress, you let them express themselves like in the house and like, sure, you can wear black lipstick. But like this is like just a bigger scale question mark.

I don't know. I agree because it's very in Congress with the mom and the values that I think Kim is. And we know Kanye has historically like, been upset with Kim for how they like put North out there. But he's sort of co-signing it, especially if it's music. I have to imagine. It almost, it feels like, on the one hand, it feels like Kim, like Kanye's driving it. This, because this is very Kanye and that Kim sort of has to go along with it because I think North in her soul just is this artist. Character. And he's going

to do this, whether it's today or tomorrow or in five years, like this is what she's going to do. But then on the other hand, you see Kanye like always railing on Kim for having her on TikTok and and in the public and how is, not wrong for that. No. And but how, but how. was having her on a stage with a bunch of adults. Any better. Like is any different. So I don't really know who's driving this. And then you think, okay, North's driving it.

But like she's 13. She really shouldn't be driving. She can't drive. She can't drive. And it was in Chicago, which is like very much Kanye's domain. I found this whole thing very confusing. And like, like, I didn't really want to comment on it because like she's 13 and I don't make it my business.

Like comment on what 13 year old girls are doing. But it seems like she's been launched, like a debut. Yes. She has been launched. We are being asked to comment on it. so I think it's weird Yeah And you know

It's safe to say like The music wasn't for me Yeah I don't know I don't know Probably won't comment on it again For a while Yeah you know

Scandal notwithstanding But it like it became clear to me Like oh this was like an official Yeah North Yeah a debut talent Like North is a public figure Because she could have had

If they wanted to like Let her express herself They could have had like a small concert With like friends and family not, there was press there. Her school talent show. Yeah, like there are a million ways for kids to express themselves in a safe way. But like also, and doing a magazine and a cover shoot and all of that, it's just like all.

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This whole story, I have to tell you, means nothing to me. Okay, so I'm trying. I never watched like any of the Elizabeth Holmes drama. Like I never got into it. So like she's not personally a blind spot for me. I don't know who the hell Nathan feels. Like why am I supposed to care about this? I don't know.

This is a story that's been beaten to death. We got to talk about it. We got to talk about it. So here's what I'm, I've gathered, okay? And I did watch when it first happened. I don't know what it was, but it was a docu series

or maybe like American Greed about Elizabeth Holmes. So I know what she did. I know what she did too. With like the blood. blood. Blood. And then I didn't watch any of the shit after it, podcast, Amanda Seyfried, whatever. Right.

But I guess at the Tell Your Ride film festival, there was like a secret screening. No one knew what they were going to see. They was just like, buzzy, buzzy, busy, busy. And it turns out that it's a documentary from 824 called You Can See Everything. And it's like chronic or like with Elizabeth. Leading up to her time in prison. Yeah. And her family in her home and her business partner guy.

And it's documenting her getting ready to go to prison. And I think it's like from what I've read, whatever happens in that document is shocking stuff. Okay. So like I'm open, but I really wish, like I cared about her. I don't know why. I don't need to care about more things because I care about a lot of things and I have a lot of interest. And honestly, like I can't like, I have three kids.

But everybody's like always going on about her. I need to understand why y'all care so much. Like, don't you feel like she's kind of like an industry plant? Like, she got so many movies, documentaries, TV shows. I don't know. I saw so many people, like, repost the trailer and be like, so did I. Holy shit.

Holy shit. What? Call me crazy. Like, Elizabeth Holmes, she means nothing to me. Like, I don't even know this person. This is not my plate. Yeah. No, like, she's just your run-of-the-mill fraudster.

Like, what's the big deal? And I feel like there are other fraudsters who are more interesting. interesting. Like Phoebe Gates? Give me the Phoebe Gates Nathan Fielder docus series today. What's she up to? I saw she posted something.

Did you? I think I need to follow her. Like, does she do stories, like OOTDs and whatnot? Okay, she has 600,000 followers. And yes, you're right. She posted with Gloria Steinem. And then before that, she had posted July 30th.

It was like probably right before the drama. Oh, and she was posting about Fia. It's like a collab. And is Fia still in business if I wanted to get the cookies? Oh, let me go to the Fia Fia Co. They have 300,000 followers. They last posted six days ago. The comments are bots.

I guess like the way that you have a unique interest in Phoebe Gates and like some people have in Elizabeth. Because I also think that Elizabeth Holmes, like her personality, she's fucking crazy. Like, I think. I think Fia Gates, like probably reminds me of someone I went to college with. Like, I don't think she's inherently interesting in that way. I find that more interesting.

I don't need to, like, a crazy person is just crazy. And like, I've written them off and like, there's nothing shocking there. Like, I don't understand or relate to you. Like, to see a girl that you think is going to be one way, be another way is more interesting. And I think, correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah, they are still posting on the podcast. The burnout. yeah they posted an hour ago

I don't know if these are new episodes though but they're promoting old episodes and they still have pinned to the top of their thing the call her daddy stuff like being a part of unwell let me see when they released their last episode like this to me is interesting you want to get Nathan Nathan Fielder in there

May 7th was their last episode okay so no they haven't posted more episodes but they're still like farming content from their interviews with Paris Hilton Carly Clause Chris Jenner Sophia Bush. Oh, the guy who doesn't age backwards. What's his name?

Benjamin Button. Brian Johnson. So weird. Who the hell is Nathan Fielder? I really don't know. A writer, director, and a comedian. He's a comedian. It's also weird that, like, there's news being made about a film festival, and

it's not Venice. Like, what kind of, no offense? Like, how good can your movie be if there's two festivals happening right now and you're a tully ride? Yeah. And how do you decide, like, where you're a film? you're going to do your big one. You get accepted.

Like you have to apply. So he obviously got denied from Venice. Yeah, there's always Sundance. And try Becca. You see everyone getting their like 30 minute standing ovation? Try Becca. I just want to say, yeah, that's a good one. If I ever have a movie at Venice Film Festival,

like I would genuinely hope like nobody stands up and claps for me because that's like how you differentiate yourself. There's nothing cooler impressive to me. There's stunned into silence. Yeah, there's nothing impressive to me about getting a standing ovation now. Like I saw Robert Pattinson got one because they premiered the, Chris Hanson movie. That's my king right there, but like,

there's literally nothing impressive to me about getting a standing ovation. No, it doesn't like mean that movie's good or anything anymore. No, it means nothing. And I want everyone to stay seated when Turney Lou Freebush, the memoir, the biopic premieres at Venice Film Festival.

Okay, sit your asses down. The biopic, who's gonna play you? Oh, okay, well, what time period of my life is a covering? Hold on, hold that thought. Did you see that people are sort of comparing Penelope Earl to a young cogers. I did see that.

They think we look alike, which I actually see. Even though when I was her age, I did not look like that. Like a young tourty does not look like that, but she does look like she could grow up to look like me, which is wonderful news for her. I did see. But also just like in her personality, and someone said, like, I think she probably has a wild side

that everyone should get to know. She was like sort of the more reserved sister. Like, Isabel was the sort of, loud and she was the one who was like making TikToks and like following in her sister's footsteps and Penelie was penelope was sort of like different you know she does horseback riding but she's very sassy I think if you're paying attention like it's all going on she thinks her older sister is like moronic yeah and like and she's just like Penelope has a bit of coge in her I expect to see great things from I do as well I got a lot of DMs about that

people think, do you think Penelope looks like you? And the thing is, like, when I was Penelope's age, I looked nothing like that. But she does look like me. There is a similarity that's undeniable. Uncanny. You should mentor her. Oh, you know, I'm always looking for new mentees to join my program. As the influencer mentor.

Do you think... Oh, and I realized the other day, we were talking about mentors and how mine's Brooks Nader and Gwendoz Paltrow. Hillary Hoffman is also, I wanted to say, one of my mentors, both, like, personally and professionally. That's beautiful. Do you think I have mentees? It's like a lot of work. Yeah. Like do I mentor anyone? I don't think you have like a lot of like little girls who are like texting you like little girls. Actually I feel like Remy Bader is your mentee. Really? I don't feel like

she's ever listened to anything I've ever said. That doesn't mean that you're not her mentor. Influencing her. I actually, I think that that's pretty pretty true. Do you think? I feel like she would look at you a little bit like a mentor. Oh my God. That's really sweet. Right. I don't think. I think if you asked her, she'd be like, fuck no.

She'd be like Chloe Kardashian's my mentor. Of course, of course. No, Claudia, I think you're up there with Chloe Kardashian. I do. But that's just like from my people. I mean, I think I'm up there with Chloe Kardashian also. What do I know? You know?

Nothing. I'm just over here. The witness. Let's dive in to Dear Toasters. Our weekly advice segment that usually happens on Tuesday. Where we can mentor some of you. Yes. Oh, here are my mentees. Anybody who's ever written into Dear Toasters, consider yourself a part of the co-Journa Fred mentorship program. We do weekly advice where you

can write into us. Shoot us an email to your toasters at gmail.com or you can over to our website, the toastpodcast.com. There's a submission box. Both ways are totally anonymous. You can write to us about anything that's going on in your life. Wedding drama, work drama, boyfriend drama, cheating drama. We got a lot of porn addiction drama. Whatever it may be. We'll help you out. First up, hi, Squirrelies. My sweet husband of three years has recently picked up reading. He has dyslexia and struggles to enjoy it. 81.6, I feel you. He's recently started reading because I also love a good book. Oh my god, I'm dyslexic. Like, I love a good book before bed. This week, he asked me if I could read

out loud to him. My immediate reaction was to laugh and say no. I know that his mom read to him growing up, so it's a sweet gesture, but I would definitely feel like his mother. Of course, everyone's parents read it. Thank you. Yeah. Part of me feels like I should just read him the book and the other part just like it, it'd me out. thoughts a conflicted and judgmental wife that's really icky um why don't you guys listen to the audio book together no because it's like her nightly ritual and i just want to say like whatever you read is very personal sometimes some of the books i read you couldn't literally pay me to read them out loud like it's humiliating so no and second of all like no offense just because like your husband's dyslexic

doesn't mean like your nightly ritual gets all fucked up like you reading before bed is a special time for you for sure but like dyslexics can read yeah so it sounds like you just just want to put in the work. Yeah. And what if he listened to an audio book? But if you wanted to do it together, like whatever, in the same way you reading to him would do it to be it doing it together, listen to the audiobook together. I think that's perfect. Now, I do think you're like reading a little too much into like him, cosplaying you as his mom because like Jackie said, yeah, like everybody's parent's read to them. It's like a part of childhood. It's like a special thing. He's not like special that him and his mom. Unless his mom read Tim when he was like 16. But no, I don't think that's

always been reading to him. And that's why he never got over his. dyslexia. Although I will say part of the reason that I enjoy reading is because during COVID, when we took a trip upstate, I couldn't sleep. So I went to Jackie's room and she was reading this book called Eliza Starts a Rumor, which is just like a swirly like drama, like mom drama. Lady drama. And she read out loud to me. And that was the first time where I was like, oh, this is what like books are. Because I was used to like books from high school. Like, no offense, I'm not reading Wuthering Heights. I didn't know that we were swirling it up with Facebook group drama in books

And so while I did fall asleep peacefully I did end up reading that book Like a year later once I was very much into reading So it is a gateway But that's I'm not dyslexic Like that's not why you're reading to me It was like a fun special treat But it's not something we're gonna do every night

Every night like that's insane It's maybe he just doesn't know that audiobooks exist Because if he did like he wouldn't ask you Because he wouldn't ask you to like Be a personal audio book What he's looking for like literally exists. Yeah. And some people say like the audiobooks, some versions are better

than the book. Better. They have Anne Hathaway reading or Merrill Streep. They say that about Daisy Jones in the six. They say it's like one of the best audiobooks of all time. There you go. Problem solved. Like seriously so easy. Hey Swerleys. I've been dating this man for almost two years and things are getting pretty serious. We're talking about getting engaged and moving in together but I'm starting to feel uncomfortable when we discuss finances.

For context, he is 20 years older than me and has three kids. I'm of course more than happy to pay my share of the bills But I don't think it's fair to continue to split things 50-50 Given the vast difference in our socio-economic status He's expecting me to help pay his mortgage Which makes me uneasy given the fact that I'm not even on the deed I don't expect free passes But also I'm not building any equity in this scenario

There are other red flags regarding money But this example has been particularly polarizing for my friends So I'm very curious to hear your takes Yeah, fuck no I can't even wait I just want to say What the fuck? Yeah I thought the whole point of like dating someone older

like was not to date someone older and poor like it's to like get taken care of. No and like when to date someone older It's not like meant like if Dave Ramsey heard That you were like paying a mortgage on a house you don't own like Of course like that's bad finances But I'm just talking about like why are you dating someone 20 years older Sounds like there's no benefits.

With kids like it's not meant to be equitable No like I don't know It's giving You know it reminds me of I feel like so many dear toasters come back to this movie Raising Helen No, but a lot of dear toasters do also come back to raising Helen. In education where she's like dating that older, older guy.

Spoiler alert, he ends up being married. And I don't think that's happening here. But he's like showing her the world and whatever. And it turns out he's like he's like hella poor and like steals art for a living. And it's like what she threw her whole life away. Like she was in a fancy private school. She threw her whole life away. She didn't go to college just for this guy who was like poor.

Here's the thing. For so many reasons you should not split the mortgage. One, your name's not on the deed and you don't have equity. So no. Two, you wouldn't be living in a house of that. size because it's his three kids, not yours. This is his house. Do not pay half, do not pay $1.

And if you do feel like you want to contribute, get your name on the deed. Otherwise, no. Otherwise, not a single dollar. Yeah, I don't know. I'm really stuck on the whole age gap thing because. You don't think Ashley Earl came into that house and started paying the mortgage. We could all learn a little something from Miss Ashley Dupray Earl. We all could.

And we all should. And I think that there's probably a lot of good things and bad things that come with dating someone so much older. And one of those good things is like getting taken care of. So I really don't see the benefit in an age cap relationship if you're paying the mortgage. No, and it's like he also sounds like a dick. So his personality stinks.

He has three kids. He's older. Like what are you doing? What's the pro here? Yeah. And I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Sorry that happened.

Like break. Definitely do not pay the mortgage. Yeah, I am pressing the breakup with your boyfriend button. Because I don't see any value provided by this individual. And you said there are like other red flags when it comes to money. There shouldn't really be. But her friends are freaking about the mortgage in particular. Yeah, no, you need someone like to like seriously like wave the red flags.

Like this is really bad. I know. I'm like worried that you're like wasting your youth on the sky. Yeah. You are. All right. Our third and final. Hey, Swirleys. So I'm at this guy at church.

Turns out we work at the same camp last summer. We have a lot of mutual friends, but we never knew each other. We talked during the greet your neighbor part, which I don't know what that is, before everyone sits down and we really hit it off. He seems like a great guy. He followed me on Instagram. We've been DMing ever since. The problem is, during worship, he sings so loud.

And I mean just like loud and wrong. Wrong notes, wrong words, everything. Is this something that's a deal breaker? Do I just try to move past it. I know everyone around us can hear it. I don't know if I should kindly say something to him or just not let it bother me. Please help, a toaster who's never had a bar. boyfriend and doesn't know what's acceptable and what's not.

I think she's like getting the ick, but she knows that like she's being dramatic because like everything else sounds good on paper. Okay, you're so wrong. First of all, I love that for him. What, he worships so hard. And I just want to say it would be cringier if he sounded good because then he's like, drag to show off singing louder than everyone. Like it's actually so earnest that he sounds bad and he just wants to like pray so hard and

he doesn't care what other people think. And if you're looking for a God-fearing man. Yeah, right. Finding one who like literally gives no fucks and prays too hard. I don't know, it's giving God-fearing man, it's giving makes a good husband. It's giving, can your knees give out from praying too hard? Oh, can your knees give out from praying too hard? Can you go crying from lying in the dark?

I love that song. Yeah, I think that if you go to church, like your dream is to meet someone at church, and you've met like kind of like the mega guy at church. Like, he churches so hard. Now, I think that like the ick factor, like I get, sometimes you just see somebody doing something, Like you feel icky, you can't help it. But I think you can turn that ick into a click. Yes, I love that.

Turn that ick into a click being like, all right, I could see like somebody who's like, you know, getting stared at or you could see like a God-fearing man. He doesn't care what other people think who puts the Lord above everything else. And let me just restate. And I agree. You should thank God that he doesn't have a good voice.

Let me just restate it's so much better that he doesn't sound good. He's not there being like Justin Timberlake. Oh my God. That is an amazing. That's deal breaker. That is ick. And also, hopefully your fellow congregants are as small-minded as you were five minutes ago.

Because no one's looking at your man then. No one's trying to take your man. Oh, whoa, whoa. My God did not fail. And listen, I've heard a lot of gospel worship music. It's amazing. Like,

I mean, I'm a Jew. And, like, I find myself getting really taken. And, yeah, the power of prayer. Like, he's just getting lost in it.

I love this guy. He's lost in the soul. sauce. I love this guy. He's lost in the sauce. You couldn't tell me a better story about the guy that you're seeing. What's next? He feeds too many hungry people. Like, please. He sounds seriously amazing. You should snatch him up before some other whore in the pew next door does, okay? And sees what you don't see. The whore in the pew next door. And he likes you. He's been DMing you. Like, seriously, this is a gift from the Lord. He's paying you back for being, for being like such a good churchgoer. I just hope we're not too late. You know, I I hope she hasn't ruined it.

I know. And I hope he didn't like feel the judgment oozing off of you. Yeah. And I don't, because there's nothing worse than like feeling like when someone like makes you feel embarrassed about being excited about something. How about this? Why don't you start praying and stop focusing on when other people are praying?

Yeah. And how hard can you be focusing on your prayers if you're thinking about the guy next to you singing? Pray harder. Yeah. And maybe pray that the Lord like teaches you grace. Okay. That's what we're here for. Yeah.

Seriously. You needed a good kick in the ass. And I feel like we gave it. you and let us know when you guys get married. Let us know when the wedding is, yeah. And I'm open to singing you down the aisle, of course. I'll sing a worship song. And maybe your husband and I can duet.

Ladies and gentlemen, that's dear toasters and that is our show. Anything you want to say to the peeps before we wrap? No, I love you guys so much. So happy that we're all reunited, like back together. Such a good feeling. Feels so good. Can't wait for tomorrow. I actually don't think it was so much direct today.

I think. No, no. I just think like. Yeah, I don't know. It wasn't Drek that were full. But I also love Drek. Honestly, I do. Some of the best moments of my life have come from the ashes of Drek.

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