The Toast - A Real Life SMUT Novel: Monday, October 16th, 2023

Episode Date: October 16, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast and happy Monday. Hope everybody's having a great day thus far. Hope everybody enjoyed their weekend. Hey, Jax, how you durn? I'm durn good. I'm looking forward to The Toast today. A little, you know, Monday buoying is in store.

Yes. So we had a very nice weekend because I had my book signing in New Jersey on Saturday. And as much as in my head, I was just like, this is not going to be the vibe. It was the nicest place on earth. First of all, the bookstore that the signing was at, Books and Greetings, was an oasis. If you live anywhere near that place, go there every day. Like I would live there. No, it was huge. They had so many offerings besides books. They had snacks. They sold candles and journals and things for kids.

It was so cute. It was so cute. They sold like blankets. It was such a vibe. I can't even begin to describe to you. And then the people who showed up were just the best of their elk. Really. They were the elk of dreamers.

They were the elk of amazing people. Yeah, it was a fabulous event. I was there too. So many people brought their kids. Their kids were so cute. Everybody loved the book. It was, I agree, like we were thinking like could this event have come at a worse time? Like we just had the worst week. We were so, I was literally like not okay last week. Like so emotional, so nuts. Like I was not okay. I didn't even realize until like I had the weekend off. It didn't like hit me how not okay I was until I took time off to just like think and relax. And it turned out to be just exactly what we needed. It really, really was.

It was so booing. It was so hopeful and positive. And thank you to every single person who came. I enjoyed meeting every single one of you. And your campers were the cutest campers. Like those campers were booing me. Yeah. And to everyone who

has bought the book so far who's tagging me in all their stories like that it's it's just so crazy the highs and lows of this week because that has been such a high for me but it's also just made me so emotional so just thank you to everyone the book will be restocked this week I will share the link as soon as it hits you know the shelves. So if you didn't get your copy yet, you'll just wait till this week. Oh, I'm like firing in all cylinders with my noises. But if you want like a true signed copy, I signed a lot of extras for Books and Greetings.

So call them up and order a copy because that one is, you know, like not a book plate, book signed. They can ship too. They can ship. And that's the only place right now that has books in stock. Fabulous. Well, it really was great. That was a booing event. I also went to, on Saturday, I wasn't going to go, but then I was like, you know what, I have to.

I went to an engagement party for my friends who are actually supposed to be getting married in Israel next year. And that's just like so Jewish. Like you still go and you still celebrate Simchas. No, you have to. It's like it's mandated really. And I was so, I had the best time and it was just so good to be around like my people. So they were like, I feel so much better today. I feel like equipped to do the show. I definitely needed the weekend and I'm glad that I took it. And yeah, I feel better. I definitely feel different. Okay, good. I'm glad. And I also feel like this tug of war, but also a strong resolve. Like every time I go through the tug, I end up on the same side of like, we have to move forward. Obviously like we're going to, this is always going to be top of mind

for us, but like we have to keep working. We have to keep doing our show. We have to keep putting smiles on people's faces. And like even the things that we did like cared about so much two weeks ago that we don't really care about like we have to find ways to engage with them again like this can't sink us as like people as a show like we we Hamas can't take the toast no for sure and that's like the general feeling that I'm feeling like I the things that I cared about that like last week you couldn't find me like I I'm coming back to myself like I am caring like and honestly like the joy and like the serotonin and the things that I felt over the weekend when I saw pictures of Taylor and Travis like was real like okay that's our first story

and we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna try and get back to that place. Yeah, no. I feel like last week it felt like I would never get there. Like nothing was important. And I think a lot, now that I've had time to reflect, I think a lot of what I was feeling for other people was like almost a resentment. Like it felt for me like my whole world was ending. Like nothing would ever be the same. And then seeing people just kind of appearing to be doing things like that they had planned I was like I was jealous honestly like resentful

almost because for me like nothing could go on you know yeah no that's how I feel I feel jealous of people who don't seem to be affected by this like Like I feel jealous that they're, you know, at the pumpkin patch just resuming normal life. Right. And so I think like I was lashing out like for real. Like I was jealous. Do you mean of Taylor and her premiere? Of Taylor and just like my whole like energy, like being angry at everyone, you know, I think it was like a genuine resentment. Yeah. So you don't feel that way today? I'm definitely feeling better. Like I'm feeling better. Okay.

I don't know if I can pinpoint like exactly how I feel about everything. But right now I'm like acknowledging my resentment. Okay. That's fair. You know it's going to come in waves. So. Like I didn't even. I didn't get to see the Eris movie.

Like I had all these plans remember right and I ended up just giving all my tickets away yeah well it'll be there waiting for you whenever you're ready and I really I want to enjoy it like and I want to be in a really good place to enjoy it and so I don't know when that is but like I will be seeing it of course okay good good yeah because you know and that's the thing like with Taylor specifically like Taylor has brought me so much joy over the years and like I don't want that to dissipate like then who then we're all losers. Yeah I think you do need to like hold on to those things and try and still care if you can and it seems like you can you're getting to a place. I

can I can. I really needed this weekend and I feel like this is going to be a really good week and I want to have hope well you have a great week why don't you tell everyone about your week well I well today's episode by the way is audio only because Turdy is booked and busy it's literally the crack of dawn I'm in full glam I am headed to two events and then to the airport so I will get to LA later today and then starts my big week, you know. I've got Jackie Schimmel on the toast. I've got Heather McDonald on the toast. I'm doing a bunch of things in LA, you know, meetings, meetings, meetings, podcast, podcast, podcast. So it's going to be a very – I don't go to LA a lot. So when I do, I try and do everything like a normal

person would do every time they go to LA. But I do it like once or twice a year. And so that's what this week is. Like I know I'm going to be dead when I get home, but it'll be good. I'm really excited. It'll be productive. I think it'll be good for me to like get out of the house. And then when I get back, I literally move. Like things are, I was literally thinking with Ben last night. I'm like, we haven't even thought or talked about moving because we've been so, you know, focused on other more important things. But that's something I'm really excited about. And that's booing me. Like that's something I've wanted for so long. Like, and I'm really excited. I'm excited for the change for you. And the new energy.

New energy. And I was saying to Ben, the thought of ever leaving my current apartment and my building and the people who work here and my neighbors, like for so long, it was, it made me like so sad. I think it actually hindered me from ever moving out the previous times that I've tried that we all know about and now I feel so excited about my new place that like a lot of that sadness isn't there yeah great yeah so I'm just I'm being positive like I'm really trying to look forward okay that's I love that thank you um we actually have some really good stories today so I'm excited to get into it obviously the big news of the weekend was Taylor and Travis's NYC John's they were everywhere um so we will be giving our thoughts beyond that did you consume

any content I I've been watching Beckham. Loving it. Loving it. Very interesting stuff. And it's so even more interesting because I don't know how the games are going to end. Like, are they going to win the trifecta of the European Cup? I don't know. Is he going to go to Real Madrid like this time? I don't know. So it's like very suspenseful for me. Yeah. Like having no knowledge or context makes it even more exciting. Yeah. And I feel like they do a good job of, you know, not spoiling it. Like the viewer, they made it for a viewer who might not know what happened. I felt the exact same way. I'm so glad you're watching and enjoying something that I recommended

because I'm watching something and enjoying that you recommended, which is At Home with the Furies. Like on, I forget, maybe Friday, I was like, I absolutely have to get off my phone. I'm averaging like 13 hours of screen time. It's really not healthy. I need Mindless. And so I started watching the Furies and I totally get it. Like what an interesting group of people. What an interesting life. Yeah. Well, we were in the car on the way home from the book signing and we were talking about, oh, because Tommy fought on Saturday. Yes, yes, yes. That's why we were talking about it, me, you, and Ben. That's why we were talking about the Furies. And Ben was talking about how he loves Tyson Fury and this video of him singing American Pie.

And we didn't know what he was talking about. And he kept trying to pull up the video. And nobody wants to watch a video in the car. Like, stop. No. And Ben was driving. And it's like, stop. Every time he hit a red light, he's like, let me get this thing.

And it was just, honestly, I started to hate the video before I even saw it. And I was like, this is going to make me hate Tyson Fury because Ben is being stupid. Me too. But then he got the video up and we watched it and it was iconic. And honestly, you recommended, but that video like pushed me over the edge. I'm like, oh my God, these people are insane. I absolutely need to watch this. Yeah.

So you started it. What do you think? I think it's a really good show. I do sense like a pattern and the show feels like a little repetitive. That's what I said. Because it's like he's retired. Oh he hates it. Like it's just she puts up with a lot.

Like it's the formula. Every episode is like kind of similar. But when you're looking for that sort of mindlessness it's nice to know what's to come. It's comforting. Yeah. And by the way spoiler alert he's out of retirement. you told me that so I figured that was coming um but just a very interesting way of life and I'm learning a lot a lot about the traveler life I had assumed like travelers and Roman gypsies I thought that was a religion but it's not because they also said that

they were doing a christening like they're christian so it's more like a way of life yeah i don't understand it completely i wish they would explain it more like that it feels like they expect you to have a basic understanding of what it means i didn't even know the term traveler was what you call gypsy so yeah i could use a little bit more of an education but i was enjoying it too maybe I'll go back to that it was it was hilarious like it's crazy and like where do they live honestly I had to google I'm like Monticombe or whatever they live I'm like is and I really can't distinguish their accents from like I'm not good with accents so I'm like this sounds kind of British but like it also sounds like Scottish. And where is it?

I believe it's outside of Manchester. Yeah it's like Britannish. Yeah cause she went to London for the day to do that talk show which I loved. Right. Queens. Working mama of like seven. Oh I'm sorry. Do you know who she reminds me of? Has anyone else made this call? Who? Brittany Mahomes.

Oh yeah. They have like similar lives. I can never say the word multiple life. Lives. At least you're not messing up women and women. Yeah. They have very similar structures of their day. And they kind of look alike.

I feel that. Oh, good. Okay. It's also crazy how young Tyson and Paris are compared to how many kids they have and like how much life they've lived. Yeah. They're like 35. And then of course, like the Tommy and Molly elements.

Are you obsessed? Are just fabulous. Yeah. I just finished Molly's book. It was really cute. It was a weird book to be reading, you know, in the middle of a war, but it was, but it was a light fare, which I guess was good. My only gripe with it, which isn't a gripe with the actual book is that she wrote it

before she was a mama. And I love her so much because of like how she shares motherhood so it was missing a huge chunk of Molly for me yeah I feel that but there was some like there was some good tidbits about Love Island and such and it was cute no they're interesting so I watched that I watched a lot of the nanny a lot of young Sheldon, like things that just bring me, you know, solace and comfort and peace. And it was a good restorative weekend and I'm ready. I'm ready. Okay.

I'm ready. Come and find me. Should we get into the stories then? Like I guess. Are you that ready? I mean, I do have like a busy day, so yeah. Okay. Okay, good.

So without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you need to know. And today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Saks.com. We are always doing our best when it comes to looking fabulous on the podcast. Sometimes our pajama uniforms and sweatshirts do need a little bit of an upgrade. And that's why we love shopping at Saks.com for everything from podcast looks to GNO fits and more. Lest we not forget, this is my year of yes. And that means, you know, events, trips. And that requires clothing. And it is so hard for me these days.

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his brother play the Jets. So this was like the first time we like really got pictures of them together, you know? Intentional. And it was crazy because we got pictures and videos and the way that people have broken down every millisecond of this video is insane. But it is that interesting. Like it really is. It was a long walk.

It was a long walk. There was a lot of action. The door, the guards, the paparazzi. Like there was a lot to unpack. And so many people are comparing it to like a smut novel. And I cannot. It's literally a smut novel. Let me tell you why.

Please tell me why. Okay. In these smut novels like it's really like all about the female gaze. And like so many little things that like mean more. And so like Taylor's doors are always open by her security guard. And like Travis wouldn little things that like mean more. And so like Taylor's doors are always opened by her security guard. And like Travis wouldn't let that. And like that's so smut where like one guy who's obsessed with a girl like, get out of my way. Like it's literally smut. And then just like small things like people were obsessed with. Like she got out of the car. He had opened the

door for her. She got out of the car. And while he's like waiting for her to walk, he closes the door, but he doesn't want to let go. First we put this hand on stomach and like hand on the stomach like that's not usual like usually it's like hand on you know the small of your back but it being on the stomach is like so intimate and it's so smut it's like a small thing in a smut novel that's really written from the female gaze because it's like so protective and Travis is like this enormous guy he's like a footballer like his job is to protect and defend. And it literally, like, you can't write stuff like this. And I saw Tessa Bailey, who's one of my favorite smut writers, like, on Instagram, like, making a video, like, the smutification of Taylor and

Travis. And what's so crazy is, like, we've never seen Taylor like this. Like, she's always with freaks. Like, tiny little men who literally couldn't protect her from shit. And there's this photo that, like, has made the rounds of the universe. Like, the one time one time, it's like a blurry, it's not paparazzi, it's definitely like an iPhone photo of Taylor and Joe Alwyn like out to dinner. And they're sitting at a table that's like one side of the table is a booth and the other side is the chair. And like the girl always gets the booth, right? Like that's just. That's how it should be. My husband and I have this conversation all the time. Taylor's literally sitting on the chair and like she's taller than him. And it's just like, it's indicative of like the two different types of relationships she's had

and how this one is so different like she's with someone who she can wear heels with you know for sure we'll talk about the heels but I just want to say about the chair thing celebrities do like to like not face out and just face in because it just draws less attention so that's just like her cross to bear as the more famous one. Fair, fair, fair, fair. But that's the thing with her and Travis. It's like she can have the booth. Because regardless, they're both big stars.

There's no stopping people from looking at them. Yeah. So just the dichotomy of like everything we've seen in her previous relationships compared to this. Like it's smut in the making. It is. Plus she gets to wear her heels. Which everyone was freaking out about. Because he's still so much taller than her.

It's a dream. Did you see the pictures of Hib's close up of his mustache? So they were walking into the SNL after party, which is where the stomach grabbing happened. Then hours later, they left the SNL after party. And what are you going to say? Was that where this, I thought the stomach grab happened like going into Nobu. So I had seen them go to Nobu and then I also saw them walk somewhere else that looked to be a behind Nobu I think that might have been where the after party was like I was confused I also was at catch I believe I believe that's not even remotely close to Nobu yeah that's what I think I saw okay interesting interesting um

whatever sorry not to trip you up I know that's no no no you're fine honestly the the like geographic locations of the evening did confuse me because I recognized immediately it would be dinner at Nobu go to SNL at 30 Rock head downtown to catch oh dinner was before I forgot SNL's very late. I think dinner was before. That makes complete sense. SNL is uptown. Nobu57 is uptown. Yes, that's exactly what happened. Okay, cool, cool. Glad that we can map it out. And where did they go to dinner last night? Waverly Inn, which is Taylor's, one of Taylor's favorite spots. Got it. So after the SNL after party, they're leaving. And if you zoom in on the photos,

Taylor's upper lip, you know, she always loves a sharp red lip. It's a little sm're leaving. And if you zoom in on the photos, Taylor's upper lip, you know, she always loves a sharp red lip. It's a little smudged. And you know that could happen if you get a little sweaty, eat something and drink something. But it's notable that Travis's upper lip has a stain of red on it. So these two were clearly making out. He also appeared to have like a little foundation on his upper lip, which is my favorite thing. Like remember when Kylie was spotted leaving the movie theaters with Jaden Smith and he literally had foundation all over his face because she had like caked it on and they were making out so hard because they were literally 14. Yeah. Even in these pictures of her entering or leaving Waverly in, her nose is red.

Red. Like the foundation came off her nose. That's classic make out stuff. Jackie, it's classic smut. Like they can't keep their hands off each other in public. So they run to the car. Like it's smut. And I'm like, it's really, it's actually amazing to see someone like living out a fantasy. And I have to imagine it's even better in real life, honestly. Yeah. She's obsessed with him.

She's obsessed with him. And I think he's obsessed with her and the idea of her. For sure. I literally saw a tweet that was so funny. It's like, Travis Kelsey had a friendship bracelet and a dream. He has the elk of a dreamer. Okay. Yes.

More so than the people of California. No, they are the elk of dreamers. They're not. But, I mean, it's easy to dream when you look like him. And like you really could get any girl in the world, like any girl who heard Travis Kelsey's interested in you, like who wouldn't give it a shot? No. And when it first happened, I was like, this is amazing.

Like gonna love this fling. But like I could see these two getting married now. Like I'm fully like obsessed. I still, I'm not there yet. I'm like very into them as a couple, but I do still feel like it's a fun for right now sort of thing. But these pictures have moved the needle in terms of convincing me of their veracity, I will say. And then there were the pictures last night that were like less exciting because it wasn't the first time.

And there wasn't like, you know, a belly touching moment. However, they were exciting nonetheless. And something I'm really noticing is like Taylor's style. She's like, she used to like never dress sexy, like not even close. And she's kind of like being like a little sexy now, like with a corset, like what she wore on SNL, very tight corset with like the revealing sides. Yeah. And she wore a corset to the game that she went to.

She's embracing like, you know, a sexier look. And I'm definitely here for it. Well, then maybe her next like album and era will be a sexy era. We haven't had that yet. No, Vigilante shit was like, was a, was a bridge to some sort of sexiness. One song, like Midnight's, the vibe wasn't sexy. It was like sparkly. Sparkly.

Honestly, when I think of, I think of groovy as like the Midnight's vibe. I think of like a dress you would wear for New Year's Eve. Interesting. I don't think that. I think of like kind of what she was wearing in like Antihero. Like very 70s. Like Fleetwood Mac Daisy Jones. Yes.

Yes. No that is correct. Maybe just because the name Midnight's I think of like a sparkly blue dress. Yeah. I do stand by that I did not like the look to the era's premiere. I was speaking in anger and jealousy but I did not like that. It wasn't my favorite. No I think that's fair. Yeah. So yeah it was just like a lot between SNL did a skit about like the NFL not being okay which was very on point like it was it was well researched

and it was a crazy weekend like it it really was and honestly I feel in part it brought me back to life for real I'm so glad yeah it's important to have hobbies it is it is for me it's like I'm I'm I want to be back there so I'm gonna force to force myself to re-engage. Get there. But it's not the thing. But it was never the thing for me. It's more of a thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah.

Our next story is kind of a really big story because it's the story that's been evading everyone. Last Friday, we had a fourth story that I forgot to share. We realized after you guys. And it was the story that I was to share. We realized after you guys. And it was the story that I was talking about at the top of the show. It was about like some content news that was going to buoy me. Oh, yeah. And I wanted to talk about it.

And I got a lot of people like saw the note on the show. It was like four we forgot to share. So now we're going to share it because I want to talk about it. Lessons in Chemistry author talks changes from book to series she said I'm not going to compare so lessons in chemistry by Bonnie Garmis which was a redheads book last year it was one of our top books of the year and it is now an apple tv plus show and it was an amazing book the author Barney Garmis said that she's happy to let go a little bit when it came to adapting her book for tv she spoke with people for this week's issue amid the release of the show. She said, I thought, oh my gosh, what if they change X, Y,

and Z? They did change X, Y, and Z. And you know what? I'm still living and breathing. It's fine. She said, as a writer, you want everything to be as you saw it, but you know going in that it can't be that way. So it's just smart to say, no, let them go because you can't demand that they stick with your vision. Among some of the changes that are in the episode, there's a pageant series storyline in the first episode. I guess like Elizabeth in the show like grows up doing pageants. I guess that it could explain like her later. No, that literally makes no fucking sense. I know, but they, you know, Hollywood.

She's like this very quirky, nerdy, like she would never. No, but like maybe she was forced into pageants. That's why she is so like upright and rigid and like. No, I literally think that's like a bad call. I thought it was like abundantly clear why she was the way that she was. She was very academic, very smart. I think she probably had like Asperger's. Yeah. Like some sort of social anxiety where she would like say things that most people would never

say. Yeah. Yeah. And not in a mean way, just in an observant way. Right. Right. That's like Abed from Community. It's also like Sheldon. Yes. Yes. Right. And Sheldon didn't grow up doing pageants. Right. I mean, we'll see how they work it in. But also the way 630 is portrayed. 630 is the dog from the book. He's the breakout star. So Bonnie said 630 is quite different, noting that the dog was going to be a mountain to climb as he's a hard character to get down.

He is because like we're not going to have a talking dog. No, yeah. So when it's written, like the the dog like getting to hear the dog's thoughts is interesting in a movie it's incredibly stupid right so 630 like can't be as much of a main character that maybe he'll cuddle up to mad you know and do cute dog things but like we can't know like how many words 630 knows well honestly it sounds like the author has like a good grip on this situation I feel like when you're really close to it I feel like we've heard a lot of stories where like the authors are mad it's like when you sell the rights you sell the rights and you have to like just move on from it yeah

even though for a lot of people it's like really personal she has a healthy outlook the first two episodes are out and then they're dropping every Friday I'm definitely gonna watch I might just like wait to bank some more episodes well you know that they like split up episodes and put like two minutes on TikTok. And if you scroll long enough, you can watch the whole episode. Oh. I've seen a lot because I just I was curious. And then once I engage with the video, they send me part two, part three, part four. And it looks exactly how I had pictured it in my head. Brie Larson plays the main character. And I can't decide because I I didn't love the book. And mostly it was because

I fucking hated the main character. She was so like decide because I didn't love the book and mostly it was because I fucking hated the main character. She was so, like just follow the rules. Follow the rules. So Brie Larson was bothering me and I felt like she wasn't doing a good job. But I don't know if that's just from my general dislike of the main character.

I understand. Like for me, the main character ruined the book. I liked Elizabeth. She wasn't my favorite, but she was a good main character and then I love 630. Love 630.

Oh, the cutest. I'm really excited to watch. And I was excited to let you know what Bonnie Garmis thought about her book being made into a feature show. I'm glad we got to like close the cycle on that. Yeah. And I know people were like waiting with bated breath. What was the fourth story?

That was the fourth story. I'm actually gonna move some things around because I have a great segue. Another book to TV news story. This one's making waves because the Hunger Games director said that he totally regrets splitting Mockingjay into two films. Thank you sir. Wow it's so crazy because I've seen all the Hunger Games. I didn't know this was like a thing within the community. It's kind of like Breaking Dawn part one and two. But I have no problem with that. Yeah because like we just wanted more content and they did a really good job of like making them two completely different movies. Like I couldn't even I would say Breaking Dawn part one is better only because we got Bella and Edward's wedding and like that's all we were waiting for

but they were both that twist at the end of Part 2, like those are two equally amazing movies. The only issue with them is like one of them is called Breaking Dawn Part 1. Like they needed two different names. I completely, but there are only five books. That's the thing. But they could have like plucked something like, what was Part 1 about? It was about like the wedding.

Like it could have been something about like. And the pregnancy. Yeah. Something about their love. Take a quote from an earlier book you know. Yeah actually the names don't bother me. Like for real. And I forgot that Twilight did it and Hunger Games did it at like the exact same time. It must have been like trendy to like split your movie in half.

What do you think is bigger? Twilight or like or Hunger Games? For me it's like so obviously Twilight. But that's because I'm obsessed with Twilight and or Hunger Games. For me, it's like so obviously Twilight, but that's because I'm obsessed with Twilight and not Hunger Games. I agree with you that it's that way for me too. But I do think when you get down to brass tacks, Twilight is bigger. So are you saying it's more personal than comedy?

Yeah. And I don't know how you would measure it. We could go by like box office or book sold. Book sales. But also it's like I feel like and this could just be like my personal bias I feel like people are always re-watching Twilight and I yes I sometimes will watch Hunger Games if it's on but like it doesn't I don't feel like I need to re-watch it all the time I feel like Hunger Games is something you watch for the plot

I got it thank you moving on Twilight like I watch for the content yeah I've seen Hunger Games once I have seen Twilight no short of 50 times yeah and I've seen every Hunger Games probably I mean I'm sure I did because I've seen like all the last one but I only really have ever re-watched like one or the final one you know yeah what happens in the middle one no what happens at the end does she end up with pita or gabe she ends up with the little one what yeah it's really shocking that's wrong that's wrong because liam hemsworth like what's his name gabe gail gail gail gail yeah liam hemsworth is gail and he kind of like gets a little um nutty nutty and like he goes to work for the capital so basically like they do the revolution and when they take over it's like they're not as bad as snow but they're they're not great either they like did kill like I think remember that

stampede into the no no I remember nothing except I volunteer as tribute like Liam got a little power hungry and you know what else I remember It's so funny like what weird things stick with you. Like that cream they were given in the forest that like if you had a gash on your leg, the cream healed it right up. Oh, I don't remember that. I just remember how it ended. You don't? It's like, it's Katniss.

Jackie, it came down. It was like this little like, looked like a La Mer, like a little tub of cream. And it came down on a little. I believe you. A little parachute. It was just so cute. Yeah, no, that's so cute. It didn't like burn into my memory like for you.

Oh, of course I also remember. Do, do, do, do. Of course. You remember President Snow and his bloody cough. I loved Rue. Right. Yeah. And then, yeah, she ends up in the countryside with the little one.

and then yeah she ends up in the countryside with the little one having like saved the realm but but still there's problems I think that was the vibe I got it feels like a plot hole like she ended up with the little one yeah yeah it doesn't sound right because like in the I remember being in the theaters for the first movie or maybe even the second movie because I think in the first movie she never kissed Gale. And then, I don't know, I think maybe in the second movie is when she kissed Gale, and, like, people were, like, hooting and hollering, like, thank God, yay, finally, like, when you wait for, like, the obvious pair to go.

Yeah, no, like, Peeta was just a foil to Katniss and Gale's relationship. You know, he was always just meant to be, like... You know, Peeta, Jackie, Peeta was Jacob. Yeah, yeah, but she ended up with him. Wrong. Yeah, we were talking a lot about this when we did our fourth wing episode for the Redheads because, like, you know, she has her mans. And I'm just like, is he the Jacob or is he the Edward? Right, it's hard to know before the sequel.

Yeah. But even, I remember when we were watching Twilight, and maybe it's because the books had already come out, but, like, we knew Edward was Endgame. It wasn't even a question. No, we just knew because like we had eyes on the situation. And I thought I had eyes on the situation in Hunger Games, but I guess I didn't. No. I mean, I'm pretty sure I got it right. I think you're right, too, because I remember like that's why I was disappointed and didn't like keep watching it. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm like, oh, these people have lost me. Liam Hemsworth doesn't win. I'm out. Yeah. OK, let me read the story. Because the director said that he now understands the mixed reactions to the final book being divided into two films. During an interview with People Magazine, People Magazine is just getting all the interviews

published on Friday, the filmmaker admitted that if he had to redo the films, he wouldn't split Mockingjay into two parts. He said, I totally regret it. I totally do. I'm not sure everybody does, but I definitely do. He also noted that the team agreed at the time that the two halves of Mockingjay, which were released in theaters a year apart,

had their own separate dramatic questions, which made for complete arcs. But he also acknowledged why some fans weren't too happy with the long-awaited period between films. Yeah, that's wrong to do. And it just seems like money hungry, honestly. It does, it does. But for. Yeah, that's wrong to do. And it just seems like money hungry, honestly. It does. It does.

But for like a fandom that's obsessed, it prolongs the fun and it's more content. Like if they're both decently good movies, who cares? Yeah. But if they're not, because I don't even remember. I know Breaking Dawn Part 1 was like the pregnancy. Breaking Dawn Part 2 was like that revolution. I don't know what the difference between Mockingjay Part 1 and 2 is. Like I feel like it was the same storyline, but just like on a cliffhanger.

Well, that's wrong because honestly, like the way they ended Part 1, like there was so much substance in Part 1. I don't know how they could have made Breaking Dawn one movie. Yeah. No, I agree. It would have been silly. Like so much happens in one movie. Like who has the time?

Yeah. Also remember with like Philip Seymour hoffman he passed away yes before part two was done yeah they they they handled that nicely but they did that was really sad yeah it was he was the best yeah so that's what's going on in the world of Hunger Games regrets. Are you ready for our next story? No. You're not? Because our next story is brought to you by the farmer's dog.

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may be getting a new face. Ken Jeong has entered the chat. TV insiders are buzzing that Deb Marmercury, the production company behind Sherry and Nick Cannon's failed talk show, are working on a new project. Shade. That's page six for you, okay?

I didn't even realize that he had a failed talk show. Did you? Never heard of it. I think that we, it's coming back to me. I didn't realize that he had one and I didn't realize that it ended. Do you know what I mean? It's not even remotely in my brain. I never heard of never heard of it okay well they're working on a new project with Nick Cannon's masked singer castmate Dr. Ken Jeong we hear Jeong and Deb Marr have been

trying to keep the nationally syndicated project under wraps but they are spending the weekend shooting the pilot in the same studio as Wendy Williams's former set which now belongs to the Sherry Shepard show. They're mum about it but they're excited about putting him on daytime even though they weren't able to have success with Nick Cannon. He just so happens to be the host of Masked Singer and Jong is one of the panelists on the show. He will be an executive producer of his new talk show.

Sources say everyone's been whispering about it despite it being very top secret. Okay daytime is so weird because it's such a dying breed, but they don't stop. Like they can't be stopped. And every now and then they get something, Kelly Clarkson. Yeah. And so Drew Barrymore too, I think that was actually like a really unexpected thing that her show became as popular as it was because it just seemed like another woman with a show. Yeah. And then they really haven't stopped. Karamo, Jennifer Hudson. I feel like Jennifer Hudson's is like pretty popular. Yeah. They've done it's like over 100 episodes. And yeah, she kind of flies under the radar, like just a consistently like good audience,

good like ratings. Yeah. That's what you want. Like you never want to be the most like buzzed about. Like that's what daytime is supposed to be. Just like consistency. It's not the flashiest. It's not headlines every single day. Like you're just a part of people's lives yeah and so I feel like she does a good job Ken Jeong is like not an obvious choice but when you really sit down and think about it like he's kind of America's sweetheart like he's so beloved he's one of my favorite actors everything that he's in like he makes he's the reason why I'm laughing we're re-watching community and like Ben Chang there's just no one funnier Claudia you wouldn't realize he was in community you have to watch

Señor Chang he teaches Spanish class oh that's funny no it's so funny um so I'm really just in my Ken Jeong era right now which I always am because also like Leslie Chow he's the reason why the hangover movies are funny he's the reason why the hangover movies are funny he's the reason why the hangover movies are funny it's about time somebody started saying that so I think that he is a great pick for this I really do I really feel like daytime does a really good job of even if it doesn't work out like finding people who are just like so beloved who are more than just actors but not like the biggest baddest personality because then you need to talk to other people yeah I also feel like seriously like Kelly Clarkson like that's exactly who she is yeah I also feel like and I

don't watch it so I'm not familiar but like the Masked Singer it really is huge and it's so widespread like people all over America like just tune in every week and he's like one of the stars he's really funny and also he has a background in comedy which I feel like when when you do stand-up and like you're a writer you really can do anything also he's a doctor um which I think will add just a level of expertise to his show and just a different sort of flair and even maybe he like takes over for Dr. Phil Dr. Jong no not Dr. Phil because Dr. Phil's like a PhD doctor like Dr. Drew I mean Dr. Oz he's like a medical doctor true true so yeah no and Dr. Drew I feel like Dr. Oz. He's like a medical doctor. True. True. So yeah. And Dr. Drew.

I feel like all those shows went off the air like those medical talk shows. We need a doctor. Yeah but we don't need a doctor TV show. So the fact that he's like a comedian, a host, and a doctor. He brings all different facets to life. I actually think the more we talk this through it's an inspired choice. Someone call the doctor. Someone call the doctor.

The doctor is in. the doctor is in the doctor is in and when you are a daytime talk show host like it's not enough to just be an actor I think because like it's just you need to be a little more well-rounded like Kelly I mean she does everything under the sun she's saying she does her Kelly Oki like maybe Ken Jeong finds a way to bring in his comedy his medical um expertise background and it brings a little something extra to the show don't you think i do also speaking of kelly like she kind of lit the internet ablaze in the last couple of days because she's a snatchler because she got a new stylist like i don't know what the fuck yeah she like she looks amazing she's wearing like cute clothes and I don't think

people realized until she started dressing well that she's been dressing fucking weird for like the last couple of years like very um just like frocks and patterns and you know she loves a frock you're right about that she loves a frock and it's like she's this gorgeous young woman like Kelly if you got it flaunt it so people have noticed a visible shift because she was on the Tonight Show looking amazing in this black jumpsuit and it's like wow why has Kelly Clarkson never dressed like this before and people are you know are led to believe now that she has a new stylist I love a new stylist and she's looking she looks great she really does she's like that's my queen right there yeah it always comes back to Kelly like if you're in Hollywood like Kelly like sets the bar I would always just be like comparing myself to Kelly

it's true queen queen are you ready for our fifth and final story yes I'm just like I was looking for another story quickly but this is an important one so I'll just stick with it um a new Israeli documentary is going to tell the story of the massacre at the Supernova Music Festival. So an Israeli documentary team is already working on putting together a documentary about what happened on October 7th at the Supernova Music Festival in Kibbutz Re'im. Yariv Moser, director of The Devil's Confession, The Lost Eichmann Tapes, and Ben Gur and epilogue will direct the film using exclusive material from participants and key people at the festival

the filmmakers said they aim to present an in-depth look at the festival before during and after the horrific event and will include interviews with investigators soldiers and journalists shocked by the carnage they have witnessed as well as unseen footage gathered from the festival goers damn Damn, that's rough. I have to say, I watched this segment this morning and just major shout out to Anderson Cooper who like will not let this go. Like he will not stop telling stories

about what happened at that music festival. And I saw, I watched this segment he did today. I think last night or the night before, they did an hour, like a pre-recorded hour special on just the music festival because so many more things are coming out. But in a teaser on his regular show, he went down to one of the bomb shelters.

So when people at the festival started realizing like something was going sideways, they all crammed into a bomb shelter. And rockets were being fired, so sirens went off so that you run to a shelter right and there's a million shelters like on every block in Israel because this is something that they're used to um so everybody ran to a shelter and I think these terrorists knew that was going to happen so they waited outside and there was like

filled to the brim like packed in like sardines into these bomb shelters and they threw grenades in and blew people up and so uh anderson cooper and a cameraman went to visit one of the bomb shelters like the the remains had been cleared up and his cameraman like it was all on camera his cameraman is vomiting profusely outside like the smell in there um he's doing a really really amazing job like telling stories of there's so many stories to tell and it's like hard to get national news coverage for everyone and I feel like he's literally like doing his best every single night like speaking with new people um so shout out to him yeah and like this is a story that is just so horrible and really does need to be told but it's going to be incredibly

painful to watch because it's so graphic yeah but I think it's important I feel like a lot of the people who might not be paying the closest attention to what's happened don't really know exactly like how horrible it was and for our generation like we consume a lot of documentaries it's how people feel they become experts on a certain matter. It's true it's how people learn. I think it's the right for I think that's the format that might grab people's attention if it hasn't already you know if they've just sort of like been scrolling past what they see or maybe they're just not being served it so I think that putting it into a documentary is a and you can pack a lot of information and testimonies and photo and video evidence into it like I think it will begin to

tell a part a big part of the story about what happened and I think that's really important and the fact that they're turning it around so quickly like people need to know about it now because like right it has a you know a huge amount to do with the response that they're going to see from Israel and you need to understand what happened in order to have an opinion on the response no and I feel like with documentaries it's a lot of times about things that happened in the past and you're like well where was the outrage and if the documentary had come out at that time and galvanized the people then maybe um it would have ended differently and so now for the documentary to be coming out you know in the time that it actually did happen it's not telling the story about something that

happened 20 years ago it's impactful um so I think this is good yeah I think it um, necessary and I hope people watch and I hope it's like available everywhere, not somewhere you have to go watch on like. No, and not just available in Israel. Oh yeah. No, but like, you know, Netflix, Hulu, not like, uh, some Amazon freebie. Yeah. Because, um, people need to know what happened. So yeah. yeah because um people need to know what happened so yeah sorry to go back there but um no that's good i thought it was interesting and also just

like the way that and we've been seeing this even with things that happen in popular culture you know anna delvey or the game stop stuff where the documentary the turnaround time is getting shorter and shorter it is but i think with this like it it has a very important purpose and that's to like make people see sooner rather than later yeah I agree so those are the past five stories a lot of content news actually four out of five is content news it's good to be back Jax it really is it feels like the writers have gotten back to work is what it is that That is why there's so much writing news. Except for, what was it? A past like Hunger Games stuff.

But yeah, the writers are back writing. The actors are not back acting. And no update even. Like it's not good. So would SNL not have come back this week if the writers, did it come back this week because the writers? I don't know when they were planning to, but if their release date was, I mean their premiere date was anything in the past couple of weeks, then no. But who was the host?

I don't know. Oh, Pete Davidson. He was the host? Yeah, he was the host. Oh, maybe because they couldn't get someone in time. Right, or they couldn't get someone who has a project out because that goes against SAG. Like you can't be promoting stuff. And most people do SNL when they're, you know, on a movie promo.

Yeah, but what if you have like a, it could have been a podcaster. Yeah, no, I wonder. I'm sure it's SAG compliant, but like why Pete was allowed. Was he promoting a movie? No. Maybe they just like, the writer's strike ended. They knew they could do a show in a week and a half and they couldn't get someone to like do it and someone who like wouldn't be crossing SAG.

Yeah, no, no, no. I know, but I just might, I'm curious how Pete doing it isn't crossing SAG. Perhaps it's because he wasn't promoting anything. And perhaps it's because he's also technically a writer. Yeah, he's a writer. Right. And then I Spice was a performer and then they had Travis and Taylor. So they turned out a show.

No, they did. And I feel like it was a good premiere. Everyone was talking about it. Yes, but also because of Travis and Taylor, they kind of like saved their little show. They saved their little Instagram show. So those are the stories. It's nice to feel again, you know?

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