The Toast - A Referendum on Ballerina Farm: Thursday, July 25th, 2024

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

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Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast. Happy Thursday. That's that's just splendid. Happy day of the Thursdays. Later half of the week. Congrats. So much to be celebrating in this very moment. Thursday.

Always a win. We got spray tans. So we just like look and feel more like ourselves than we have all week and more alive. Probably not like ourselves, which is why we feel good. Because ourselves is disgusting. Ugly, yucky people. Rats. And we got spray tans because today's our last show

at the West Hampton Beach Performing Arts Center. Four out of four sold out shows. The residency is still in full swing because we're headed back to New York City next week to sell it to be considered two more times. But how are you feeling about the ending of this particular journey? This leg of the jizz no has been a wonderful you've got some jizz no on your leg

this leg of the jizz no has been fantastic i kind of love the west hampton beach performing arts center not to sound like that girl but it feels like a second home it does feel like a second home at this point it's where everyone knows your name literally literally we've gotten really comfortable really familiar we're just kind of like old pros up on that stage like local celebs local yokels it's really actually we joke it's the nicest theater the accommodations are so nice they take really good care of us i'm gonna miss it there i've loved doing the shows i've loved seeing the swirlies i've loved how many swirlies are experiencing the hamptons for the first time because most of the people who come to the show

aren't from west hampton they're like you know what let's make a swirly weekend out of it they're experiencing the hamptons for the first time I love that we've given them that experience yeah and it's just it's been amazing it really has it has been one more show to round her out and I'm excited to do just know it's funny we like rot in the house all week we're literally like house frow trad wives you can't say trad wives to me without me immediately I took notes you have to table yes you're ballerina it's going to be a referendum it's the first story i it's going to be a referendum on the referendum on ballerina i just want to say i went to sleep thinking about it i

woke up thinking about it i have so much to say go okay great we're just a bunch of house about trad wife during the week but like one or two nights a week we drive ourselves to the west hampton beach performing arts center and kind of slay the house down boots. It's just like this fun thing about us. In celebration of it being our last show, I meant to tell you that I booked a car service. I saw it. I don't want to drive. I think it's weird that we drive.

Oh, there's a fly in this room. Giving that episode of Breaking Bad. The fly. It's an annoying, big, fat, buzzy one. Tortured us last night. Literally landed on my phone while me and Ben were like doing our scroll time before bed. It has been torturing me for like 12 hours. It in here now we just we have to sort of ignore her or she will take us down okay but it's big fat and buzzy i'm aware i've lived with this fly for

12 hours i don't know how the fuck she got in here somebody left the screen door open wasn't me you go out on the terrace here no like in the house and then he made his way up to my bedroom yeah took a tour said i'll take the master suite. Thank you. Precisely. Have a great day, everyone. The fly kind of has turdy energy, just like coming to the house, very Ramona Singer, taking the master bedroom.

Yeah, as he should. We, in addition to being girls who never leave the house and then eventually get glammed up and go to the West Hampton Beach Performing Arts Center, we've also been churning out content. Now, a big theme on the toast this week, thanks to the viral nature of our viral video and our viral moment from 2006, seven, we did an entire podcast episode yesterday dedicated to our experience at fat camp. A fun fact about us that some people don't know. And some people just randomly think about, and it's like this fun fact about us that people can't get over.

Yeah. We talked about the actual experience of like fat camp, a lot of questions about day to day. Like what is it like? Is it like the movies We talked about the actual experience of like Fat Camp, a lot of questions about day to day, like what is it like? Is it like the movies? And then also the experience of the TV show, which is a cornerstone of a lot of people's childhoods, ours included. So that is up on the Patreon now. It's a podcast episode. And we really, I don't think we left no stone unturned.

We covered the gamut front to back. It was actually like really sad for us because we were remembering all of these like amazing moments and things will never be better, simpler, happier than they were than our days at summer camp. Yeah. Not just like because it was a fat camp because it was camp. No, just camp. If you went to camp, you can relate. That's like the highlight of your life. And then we just had to kind of move on from that. No, and go back to being like wives, mothers, businesswomen,'s. Yeah, and not campers. Correct. And that's always hard.

I can't lie. Like, I seriously can't think about anything besides ballerina. Oh my God, like keep it in your pants. No, it's also now that I read the article and then I went searching for people's takes, I'm inundated in the algorithm, especially on TikTok with people's thoughts. I read the article and then this morning,

I like went to pull up the article for the stories today. So I just Google searched baller morning I like went to pull up the article for the stories today. So I just Google searched ballerina farm and went to news and the subsequent headlines like other people's take other publications extrapolated horrible. What was it? The dark truth behind TikTok viral ballerina farms idyllic life. Jezebel yikes a peek behind the ballerina farm facade is bleak as hell. Now it gonna come as a shock to nobody that I abhorred this article I'm sure Jackie you have similar feelings we actually haven't even discussed it offline I'm so excited to have like a first-time convo about it right here in this moment and there are a lot of reasons I hated the article um which I will get

into but just know like that's the general gist and I have a lot of reasons that I think are really good for hashtag standing with ballerini yeah also the same the times that wrote the piece on her two days ago wrote a piece called for most women trad wives are a freak show yeah I think you're gonna go to her house and meet her children when this is the stance it was very clear that there was a an immediate bias in the article which I think people who are even applauding the article can acknowledge. Um, I think that the general takeaway from the article is that ballerina farm is actually like a victim and her husband is an oppressor. And that's what I've seen on social media. Like the word oppressor is really crazy to use. Um, and we're going to get into it. And if there's anything else you want to talk about, like, let's talk about it now because

I will not be able to stop once I start. Okay. Um, anything else? Oh my God. Jackie made cornbread last night. Oh yeah. We had such a wonderful dinner as you saw on the YouTube. It was very rainy and the moody here.

So still today too. It was a chilly day. We like, we woke up and we said it's a chilly day and all day we were just like spend, spent preparing for the library. We got recipes. Jackie went to the cookbook section. It was kind of crazy crazy i got a lot of really good recipes from a variety of cookbooks not just for cornbread but for other things i'm going to make other things so the cornbread recipe that we used was paula dean yeah which i feel like every dish is kind of

has a vibe and when you're going to go to a cookbook of like famous chefs like you have to have the the chef match the vibe of the dish so the first cook the first cornbread recipe Jackie had pulled out was actually Alex Guarnaschelli because I saw it in the library so and I love Alex Guarnaschelli when I think vibes you didn't like the picture she knows she also doesn't like her freak doesn't match the freak of cornbread I can't really explain it I just feel like you have to justify like using Paula Deen of course by the way because she's so controversial I just feel like you have to justify like using Paula Deen. Of course, by the way, because she's so controversial. I just want to say yourself using her recipe. It was delicious. I do not endorse, you know, any of her behavior. However, having said that, when you're looking for something Southern and fat and buttery, like it has to be Paula Deen

or it's going to be wrong. Sorry. And Alex Cornish, Shelley, when the picture in the cookbook, it was so crumbly and dry. I could like feel the dryness through the page I'm sorry I'm why should I suffer because Paula Deen has like a very you know sort of controversial history you shouldn't I shouldn't suffer and I didn't so yeah I use the Paula Deen one okay so the Paula Deen recipe was like very Paula Deen coated lots of sugar butter milk yes butter and I went for most of it but in true fashion, I had to swap out the sugar for a Splenda Stevia. Oh, you know that. Because they're a new sponsor, which I just recently got into Splenda Stevia. And I love baking, of course, but I can't put buckets of sugar. It's crazy. It like literally pains me to like take out cups of sugar. Allow me because today's lead sponsor, she's coming now, was Splenda Stevia. And organic integration. You know,

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You absolutely love when the sponsors just align with the pre-facified banter. It's so beautiful. So back to our feast. Yeah. We had cornbread. Paula Deen's version very very tasty and I made my chili which I don't think I've made my like Jackie original chili like sometimes I where's the recipe from it's an amalgamation of recipes that I've liked over the years I've like taken the parts that I've liked I've done away with the things that I didn't like and it's just

like it's a it's not anything crazy chili it's just like, it's a, it's not anything crazy chili. It's just like a night. It's very standard at home. I use turkey here. We use chicken. It's just like, you know, obviously tomatoes, chicken broth, red peppers. I guess that's the little bit of the crazy red peppers is a controversial ingredient. I will say it was delicious.

Um, and how you know that I liked it is while we were watching TV afterwards, I totally forgot to tell you this, like seriously, a piece of skin that had burnt off from the roof of my mouth, like I peeled it off. It literally, it blistered up. I ate it so fast. It was delicious. And I actually feel like because I knew I was cooking for you,

I didn't add any more liquid than the recipe called for. And I did achieve a mostly taco meat sort of texture for you. No, it was liquidy. It was liquidy for you, but it was thick for me. I think it was perfect. I think it was perfect to compromise and having that cornbread. I never do cornbread with chili. I know that's a very popular thing in the Midwest. Everybody gets like really crazy with their cinnamon buns. It's like contra peanut butter. I don't know. Cornbread is delicious, even though I didn't eat it with the chili. Like I didn't eat the two in tandem. I like

Tostitos with my chili. Me too. Or rice. I'm a simple girl. I get like so much backlash for having rice with my chili. You know what? I. I'm a simple girl. I get like so much backlash for having rice with my chili. You know what? I said this to Ben yesterday and then I realized it was a crazy thing to say, but it rings very true for me. I don't eat rice. And that is truly where we are so different because a meal is not complete without rice for me. Like I don't eat rice.

We don't really eat rice in our house. If I go to a restaurant, I like like I like like a vegetable rice. Like if the rice has like a lot of other things going on, but like I'm never making chicken and rice as like it's just never that's so insane to me food group you're literally missing out on such joy and I like with my whole heart love rice I would do anything for rice you do I think if a meal doesn't have rice and really when I've gotten like serious about my weight loss I've had to give up rice but not completely like I can't live without it it's like things I know in my diet if I got rid of I would be better off rice and diet coke sorry it's not happening what if you do

like whole grain brown rice oh please I think that there are certain things in like diet culture that are useless and I think brown rice is one of them if you especially if you're trying to eat in a calorie deficit it's literally the same amount of calories I know it digests better I don't give a fuck fuller oh please please I don't like I don't give a fuck. And it'll keep you fuller. Oh, please. Please. I don't like, actually, I do like brown rice. I just want to say, success, boil in a bag.

One thing about rice, like the more like American grocery store it is, like the less, like I don't make rice in the pan. I think that's insane. Yeah. How do you even do that without burning it? No, minute rice. It's impossible.

In the microwave. Oh my God. It's a joy. And I think there are tiers to rice. Obviously, like, you know, the Asian cultures have really, really sort of crushed rice. I love sushi rice. I love chicken fried rice. Like, I love that.

But there's also something to be said about a basmati. I think that the best rice ever in the world, if you were to just sort of put a gun to my head, it is the vegetable fried rice from Mr. Chow because it's like literally not fried. There's just like little edamame in it. It's so good. Yeah. And that's where I get most of my vegetables. That's your best rice in the whole world.

A thousand percent. That's so crazy. I know. You can't put me in a box. I like hibachi rice. I mean. You put the egg in it. You're a human being.

No, like they do a good job. It's consistently good. Agreed. Whereas other places, like when you order Chinese food, it's not consistent. No, no, no. Across all hibachi brands they crush the rice i completely agree and you can see the egg like you know that's real egg no and it's being cooked right in front of you it's literally farm to table it's farm to table which is the perfect segue finally it's time let's get into

the fast five stories my notes the fast five stories that you need to know first one ballerina farm my queen my idol we talked about her a lot on the toast. If you've never known what we were saying, let me just tell you, she is an influencer. Her name is Ballerina Farm. She's a former Juilliard dancer. So she's a ballerina and she has a farm in Utah. She has eight children.

She gave birth most recently in the winter and she gives birth these days at home. She had two of her children in the hospital, but the rest of them were home births. She lives on a working farm with her husband and her family. They milk their own cows. Her husband is the heir to the JetBlue fortune. Her husband's dad is a billionaire.

He started a number of airlines, including JetBlue. And they live a very like traditional trad wife life. She's kind of become the face of the trad wife movement. She has. She's one of like the most successful trad wives. She sells a lot of her wares. She sells her starter kit, which is the starter, the kit that I got from Lauren Elizabeth. They sell meat from their like slaughterhouse.

I don't know. I think they sell like cheese. You can go to their farm and buy stuff. Yeah. They're Mormon. They're Mormon. Their children are homeschooled. So it's very much like the picture of what you would think of when you think of you know farm life little house on the prairie she has so many followers

so many viral moments one most notably how i first heard about her when she was having a moment you brought it up is like you know two weeks after she gave birth to her most recent baby she competed in a pageant because she was like mrs utah and then they had like a mrs america and then mrs universe and so, one of the pageants happened to be two weeks after and she showed up, you know, bikini, gown, everything. And a lot of people were like freaking about it. And that was like one of her super viral moments. When you think of the trad wife movement, it's literally her and Nara Smith. And they are both Mormon. A lot of people don't know Nara Smith is Mormon. And I think a lot of the conversations

had in this article are really um like a piece that's not being said is like this is their culture as mormons yeah so to us it's like oh my god but to them it's like not so she's also like a content creator and a business woman because she has all these businesses as we said she has millions of followers and she like crushes instagram everybody loves following her celebrities follow her it's like you know she's a really fun follow and she's doing like interesting really impressive things i mean to have eight children one is a feat is a feat to give birth to them at home to then two weeks later like go and do a pageant I think people are freaking out and you know they love to say like this sets unrealistic unrealistic standard for women but

I always like to see like aspirational women you know I know I'm not going into a pageant two weeks after I give birth like not whatsoever but I think it's cool that like the female body is able to do that sometimes for me the criticism of her especially with the pageant being um what was the word you just used aspirational like or or setting unrealistic expectations for women I actually don't agree with that criticism I think it's more like this is what this person wanted to do and that's great for her yeah and if I want to rot in bed for two years after having a baby like that's amazing as well like everyone's choices are their own and they should be celebrated not and and this one person just because she does have all these followers doesn't mean that she should make choices in her personal life because she doesn't

want to like have you know be a bad role model like this is what she wanted to do right in the same way we would never like shun someone for not bouncing back quickly why would we shun someone for bouncing back quickly reminds me of when christine quinn had her baby and she was literally like the next day in her teetering in her high heels like you would have never guessed that she had a baby like i think that's so cool of course i know that's not going to be me and i'm not like sad like why does she right like it's just genetics it's the genetic lottery she won right congratulations congrats grads also not in just in terms of like women who have had babies

but just like anyone who chooses to share their life on the internet barring you know you're killing people like your choices are your choices and i'm not really going to clown on people and i said this a couple of weeks ago and i feel like this is a perfect example and part of the i think a lot of my um thoughts on this article are informed by this overall like thesis that i've come to is that you are not going to find me jumping on bandwagons criticizing influencers, female influencers. I think Ballerina Farm is amazing. When there are articles like this

about the highest paid male athlete and the highest paid, what does his home look like? Let's spend the day with him. Does it become a referendum on his naggy bitch wife? Right, no, no. I don't think so. When there are articles that are as in-depth and as critical and as you know that analyze as deeply you know men who are

crushing in other fields then I will I will give something like this credence but for of course you know no one hates women more than women this article was written by a woman um I don't know and the bandwagon everyone is just sort of jumping on. That's not going to be me. And I do feel like the article, um, came from like, I think before the lady even showed up. And like you said, she had written an article two days ago about her thoughts, the times. Oh, oh, okay. That's different. It's not the same author. Okay. That's different. I do feel like the lady on the plane ride there, like knew what she was going to say and, and sort of picked things out from her day. Not that things in the article didn't happen but you're looking at a whole 24 hours in somebody's life and the article was extremely short these pieces go on forever that huberman one never ended when they decide to like

do a hit piece on someone oh my god they just wax on forever this article ended i'm like i just kept something this is the end no but also it's like not a secret that like and it's clearly obvious that like trad wifery and you know, the media are not congruous. Like she's literally like unplugging from the media. They don't watch TV. They don't have iPads. Those are people who literally do not subscribe and give you clicks. Like, why are they going to promote this way of life? Like they are at odds with one another. So there's no way that this person like feels warmly towards this way of life. And like that girl boss culture that like ballerina farm is shirking and that a lot of the trad wives are shirking that at least this author like had the

honesty to say has failed a lot of women, but that's still what she's chasing and in the corporate world. So like these two things are at odds. We're not going to get like an honest take of it. It's not someone who's like looking at ballerina, ballerina reveres her and is impressed by her. It's someone who's there to find an angle, show us something that we haven't seen online. And that's the story. And also what's the big takeaway here for a lot of people? It's that like her husband is bossy. He definitely wears the pants controls and he sort

of runs this ship. And, um, trad wife a traditional wife they have a very and they both were brought up super traditional mormon upbringing this is sort of the way a family is built in the eyes of the mormon church and and that works for a lot of people and you know that's how they were both brought up so what is so shocking that a trad wife is trad right oh no like what's surprising about that and i think the way a lot of it was written was really, um, intentional because a big thing from the article that's being pulled, the poll quote is how they met.

So he had met her and, you know, asked her out and she had said no. And then they like, you know, had kept in touch. She still said no. She had mentioned that she was getting on a flight back to New York to go

back to Juilliard where she was studying ballet and he called up his dad was like listen I need to get um on this flight next to this passenger he like used his place of privilege and ended up sitting next to her and was like oh what a coincidence it's not a secret that he did that now but in the moment they acted like it was you know happenstance fate they ended up dating and getting married and a lot of people are like that is stalker behavior oh my god are you guys okay that is cute behavior by the way not only that how it's written is so important because I could see it being written totally differently and the takeaway would be like ladies if he wanted to he would right like because it's written in the way that it was with somebody who's clearly just against this sort of you know arrangement it's now

stalkery yeah but if it was in a book you guys would have been like it's just I think that right the way it was presented was intentional like he's a billionaire he wants to see her isn't this literally 50 shades of gray where he's like maneuvering everything to try and get time with her like I just think yeah could you see it that think, yeah. Could you see it that way? For sure. I didn't see it that way. I thought that was a really like cute story. No, of course. But I'm not looking at things like wanting to hate them. Right. No, no. And so a, if you are, then that's obviously the conclusion that you jumped to be there, like sharing this, they have nothing to hide. If you had a real sort of toxic, cause people are calling him an oppressor. Okay. If you

had an oppressor living in your home, you're telling me you would invite the times times in they don't need this article yeah they did it because they thought they had an interesting life to share and i think that's my overall takeaway was they invited this lady into her into their house and they did not put on a show you know you think a reporter's coming everyone's dressed in their finest we're acting normal all day we're pinching each other under the table we're putting on a show they have a very chaotic life and they invited someone into that and this is what she took away and you know that's unfortunate but i don't i think that they should be committed imagine somebody comes into your house during getting the kids ready for school you have eight kids like my my question from this is like why did why do they allow this i mean maybe they just haven't been burned by the media yet

to be like more skeptical or maybe he has and that's why he wouldn't leave the room and was like being very controlling because like maybe he in whatever he does he's seen that before but I felt like they were very naive and to think that like oh they're here because they just want to like get to know us and take our picture meanwhile they're mad that everything's all about the dad but the photographer taking the picture is saying hey everyone look at dad when it's like what about look at mom yeah and the the other thing that's I I don't agree with is the the general consensus after this article is that like she has no say in her own life you know she was forced to get married she was forced to date this guy forced to marry this guy and then forced to have children and give up

her career as a dancer and i just don't i don't like that like that that's just you know you exist under the assumption that this person this person has no agency over her life and over her decisions and just because we I would never do I my life choices are completely different than hers right but that doesn't mean that she was forced into this and I think that everyone's like I cried reading the article like she gave up her life as a ballerina for him no she didn't she gave up her life as a ballerina to be a mother and I think anybody who has children can attest to the fact whether it's on a bigger scale or a smaller scale you give up things in your life that your husband She gave up her life as a ballerina to be a mother. And I think anybody who has children can attest to the fact, whether it's on a bigger scale or a smaller scale, you give up things in your life that your husband does not have to give up.

And by the way, I'm not defending him because I think he's definitely a nightmare. I would seriously, could never be my husband. The picture that they painted of him in this article, like, yeah, he is controlling and overpowering. And like, yeah, it sounds like he like walks all over her. But then you have to question the picture that's painted. Like how many times have we seen the media like lie or twist something? And you know the truth of the situation

and then they present it in a different way. So like, I have to take that with a grain of salt to say that like, he might not be all of that. But by the way, if he is controlling, like that tracks with the lifestyle that they lead. Traditional, gender roles, woman in the kitchen, man, and the craziest part that I thought she just glossed over completely was the one sentence where she said they actually, he said, we're co-CEOs because she was like, do you think

you're the head of the household? And they were like, no, we are co-CEOs. And then they very briefly mentioned that like, while, you know, they are more traditional, he takes on the roles of taking the kids to the farm, which is like a huge part of their day and the laundry. Now, laundry is not, you know, just the dishes. dishes, not nothing. And laundry is a full-time job for 10 people. I thought that was the way that was glossed over. Cause that's a huge responsibility in like the domesticity of it all. Yeah. I was like, Oh, okay. That's like kind of huge. Yeah.

But let's say under, let's operate under the assumption that like he is the bossy one, the controlling one, the more typically masculine traditional that is their life that's literally she said yeah we are the face of trad wives even though she said even though I don't think I am because through my traditionalism I have become like a business woman yeah and I run this empire and and I'm actually not but yes I guess in a sense the way we dress and how many kids we have and we live on a farm it's trad there was one thing in the article that concerned me that was also glazed over, which was that she gets so exhausted sometimes. Of course she does.

Like she's literally doing a million things. And she doesn't leave bed for a week. Take to bed for a week. She can't get out of bed for a week. Yeah. Was nobody worried? Like even the author who's so worried about ballerina, you want to dig in on that?

That was, that was required follow-up questions. Cause that sounds like somebody who has like depression. no that someone sounds like someone who's doing too much well yeah like not but it's not even for us to say like her life works for her what what do i know no i know that's the overall my takeaway from the the article is like is this a life i want no is this a life like i aspire like that even remotely aligns with anything I want for my, no, like seriously now, but that doesn't make it invalid and, and her, her choice. And I just didn't like people's criticism would be that like, this is a dangerous model of womanhood and she's so influential. Well, I think there are a lot of women who have a lot of influence who are vastly different. It's important to have, you know, people with platforms from all walks of life you know there are people on let's say the poll

what's the polar opposite of trad wise like only fans right that's up to they have millions of subscribers that's influence too why is one okay but not the other no and like there if she has a million followers like a million people are interested in this dangerous model of womanhood like that's that's their choice so hold on i just wanted to get my oh oh she's they're being dragged because daniel said that like he um they have a housekeeper but they don't have any child care yeah and you know a woman with that many kids like obviously needs help and it's just i find the internet especially when it comes like a referendum on motherhood and nannies like people always like well if you have a nanny you need to share that and nannies are a privilege and there's

so much chatter about nannies and here's a woman who doesn't have a nanny no and like people are upset that she doesn't that her husband won't let her have one no let me just say that could never be me no no that like she needs i just oh but also the kids are homeschooled and they have a teacher they they they spend all day in the barn like at school and that lady watches them like that is a form of child care but she has a six month old a two-year-old and a three-year-old oh yeah they're not there yet in school like how is she cooking all these things and milking grocery shopping i guess she's always wearing the six month old that brings me to my first quote i want to pull because it seems like the lady she was trying to make the point that the writer that how frustrating it was

that she couldn't get a moment alone with Hannah to like talk one-on-one with her, which is, you know, understandable if that's the subject of your article. I do think that they thought the subject of their article was like their family, not just Hannah. And Hannah obviously has a lot going on. So it was difficult to get her one-on-one time with.

And almost like the journalist had like a problem with the kids. Like, oh, it's so bothersome. The kids are here. She takes the baby from her husband. She will not leave Nealman's chest for the four hours that we are together. Okay. Like she's a, how old is she?

Six months. You take priority over this kid? Who the hell are you? And you're here to smash these people. Like what? Let's throw my kid in the garbage and talk to you. Let me set my baby down. Deprive her of a contact nap so I can talk to this asshole.

Like she had a problem with the husband and that was kind of the, uh, the focus of the article, the underlying state. And that's okay. That was her. She also was annoyed with the kids pulling at Hannah. She's like,

I can't get a moment. Anytime she says something, it gets interrupted by a husband or a child. Like, okay. That's called being a mother. And that's what you're here to observe. It's funny.

You shut up and watch. Yeah. Like you and your annoying questions. Okay. Next. The only space earmarked to be Neilman's own, a small barn she wanted to convert into a ballet studio ended up becoming the kid's school room. Well, isn't that a referendum on motherhood? Tell me if I'm wrong. Like,

oh, I wanted this nice thing for myself. My kid took a dump on it. Yeah. I was just watching Raven Gates's story. Her Chanel lipsticks. Like it's like a thing her kids are always putting their hands in that. Okay. Correct me if I'm wrong. Like, is that, you know, an oppressor or is that just like sort of a thing about being a mom? Like you had something you wanted for yourself and it broke. Yeah. And it's like, we need a school room for the kids. Oh, Hey, there's this empty barn. Maybe one day we'll get around to building another one for the dancing. And I wish the article had spoken more about how like, it is really sad. She was a Juilliard trained. She was probably on her way to becoming whatever the biggest thing in ballerina isms is like, I don't know what that is, but she was at Juilliard. She was the best.

And how sad it is that like, you know, she couldn't hold space for two truths, right? Being a mom and also being a dancer. And I don't know if that's necessarily a reflection on her husband. More of it is just a respected, a reflection of like gender. And like, that's the role. That's something about being a woman. Like we were taught we could have it all have it all but we all know we can't yeah you can't be a pregnant ballerina you just can't no you can't so I wish there was more because and that sucks like it really sucks and I don't know whose fault that is I don't think it's her husband's fault and yes he had to sacrifice less not because he's the villain but because that's how vaginas work right and that's how motherhood works and it sucks and like let's talk about that like

how do we fix that yeah we're not blaming our husbands it's literally not their fault like it sucks and you want to kill them but what can they do they can't give birth right but I also think like finding the joy in it and I think that's what a lot of like the trad wife movement and is just like we've all gotten inundated with content of like motherhood is hard and you know we're like tired and give me a glass of wine like we've seen it and now I feel like there's this shift where it's like celebrating like the the small like sweet wholesome moments that like you experience every single day that aren't like the most exciting things but like are really precious and I think that's what the the movement is more so about amongst other things.

But like, you know, just the joy of like cooking for your children and just like not just seeing it as like that sucks, that sucks. Like it doesn't suck. Most like, yes, that is a small percentage of like motherhood. Like you have to give up something. But what to me is my opinion, what you are getting in exchange for the thing that you've given up is exponentially greater. A thousand percent. Another thing that everyone is sort of latching onto, I would say this is like one of the bigger moments and I'll read it. This is what she said. She lowers her voice. Daniel is currently out of the room taking a phone call quote. So I got an epidural and it

was an amazing experience. Where was Daniel that day? It was shipping day for the meat boxes and he was manning the crew, but the epidural was kind of great. She pauses and smiles. It was kind of great. Um, so for me, I'm not, a lot of people are like, well, he doesn't let her get epidurals. And so the one time he was gone, she got an epidural. Well, no, actually this baby was two weeks late, 10 pound baby. And her husband wasn't there. Like, obviously that's a different situation than her normal pregnancies. Whereas like, you know, average size babies and her husband and her partner her supporter is there right but also it's her first baby so most women who wind up becoming like women who give birth at home they they do have their first baby in the hospital wait was Martha her first baby uh

no when she when did she have Martha I don't. Martha wasn't Martha's a home birth. Oh, okay. And there's an epidural at home. No, no. Oh, so her, her first two children she had in the hospital and that's where she had epidurals and he wasn't there cause he was with the, the crew. But like I was saying, like she didn't know she would go on to have a million home births. Your first baby is your first baby and you go to the hospital and you have the epidural. And then over time, like you might change, you learn new things yeah so when I see someone has their first baby at home I'm like wow because that's really like so impressive because typically it's more of a slow burn where you like evolve and you're like okay you know what I want to try at home next time or even like you might have a hospital epidural birth first and then maybe a non-epidural birth second. Like it's staggered.

Okay, but in 2021, Martha was nine months old. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, Martha's three. But you said the first two were at a hospital. Her first two are Henry and Charles. Right, so Martha was at home. Martha was at home, yes. Oh, but you can get an epidural at home?

No. Did she say she had an epidural with Martha? Yes. That's the quote. Hold on. Hold on. Except with Martha. I was two weeks overdue and she was 10 pounds and Daniel wasn't with me.

She lowers her voice. Daniel is currently out of the room taking a phone call. Quote, so I got an epidural and it was an amazing experience. Where was Daniel that day? It was shipping day for the meat boxes and he was manning the crew. But the epidural was kind of great. She pauses and smiles. Interesting.

So she had an epidural at home. great she pauses and smiles interesting so she had an epidural at home right i didn't know that was possible so the takeaway from the article and the way i think the author wanted people to read it is like oh the one time she gave birth and her husband was around she secretly got drugs because he doesn't let her take drugs and i think context is key the baby was 10 pounds her partner for whatever reason which i think that's more interesting like where the hell were you shipping boxes please except maybe when you have so many babies it's like not as important but still like get in the room bitch um like i i didn't read it and say oh he doesn't allow drugs in the house she says she prefers it this way and i think some women like they think

of it as like a challenge and they want to like connect with you know the women who came before them but like obviously yeah give me the drugs And sometimes, and I think this is what I learned from Aaron Foster is like, you opt for a natural birth and in the middle of it, you're like, fuck this. I want drugs. And you're like people around you were supposed to say no, maybe that's what happened. Like, I don't know. I just like, like you can't, the article was just so short and tried to fit in so many things. Like let's have a whole conversation about Martha's birth. Maybe we'll learn more. Maybe it's not her husband maybe it's the fact that she just couldn't do it yeah I don't know I'm just I'm not I'm not jumping like everybody

else's to conclusions there was clearly an agenda with this article no there were a couple things that I screenshotted that I thought were so like we like weirdly stated like i feel like she wanted to make like a a meal of their age gap she goes yes oh two years his junior she said he was 23 and she was nearly two years his junior when they were introduced by a mutual friend like that's literally me and ben's age gap it's the most normal age gap not an age gap no i know i jesse two years my ears my ears went up that is nearly two years like junior oh no and what if they reach to the two wait so they're trying to paint her as a victim of him and he is this big oppressor and i don't know i don't know what's big if it's because uh and and i can't stress enough how like

i don't feel defensive of these people because my life is like theirs at all we couldn't be more different like big city slicker i'm a big city slicker. I'm a big city slicker. I very much am like, if anyone, I'm the Daniel. I'm controlling. Like we could, the gender roles in our house are actually like at times super flipped. You know, Ben's always in the kitchen.

It's not that this way of life is something I aspire to be. I'm Daniel. It's not that this way of life is something that I aspire to be. I'm just like really getting tired of this microscope and like putting this pressure on women to like set the best example forever. Like why should Ballerini Farm live her life to set an example for other people?

It's her life. It's her choice. If you don't like it, you don't want to follow it. Don't. Right. Like I just can't. And I want articles like this on the gender roles in the house of, you know, Andre Agassi. Like, stop.

It's really annoying. Like I said, influencing is the only industry where it's female dominated and women make 10 times the amount that their male counterparts do. They don't even have male counterparts because men couldn't do it. So stop. Stop. I can't take it. Like, for real.

I'm always seeing articles like this. Ariel Charnas into her life and her business. Like, stop. No. I can't take it. Like for real. I, I'm always seeing articles like this, Ariel Charnas into her life and her business. Like stop, stop. It's always about these successful women who are also mothers always like, stop where the articles on the dads. Right. And these are also all working moms at the end of the day. So like, didn't you get what you wanted? No. And they're working moms and they're not doing it perfectly because it cannot be done perfectly. Either you spend too much time at home and you neglect your work and you're like a toxic boss or you spend too much time with your coworkers and never at home and you're a neglectful mother.

Like it can't be done perfectly. That's why articles like this are polarizing because it's like, look, she's not doing it the way I would do it. Like, well, because nobody can do it. It can't be done. It can't. You cannot be a successful business person and a successful mother you can't no I mean you can but no one ask for approval from anyone is certainly

not um the media elite yeah they're not gonna like what you're doing it was and the way that everyone's running with it is not surprising I just justice for ballerini farm and I think that her husband and her life is very traditional. I think that's like, I think, and correct me if I'm wrong and Mormon girlies, feel free to shout out in the comments. I think if you follow the Mormon texts, the Mormon family is supposed to be like centered around the husband. Now, is that the way I would make my family? No, but that's someone else's choice. That's someone else's religion. And it's, it is what it is. It's their choice. Yeah alone yeah not gonna be me so we stand with ballerini but you

already knew that yeah you knew we were gonna have a hot take like i was not gonna come on here and be like that daniel's an oppressor like i'm sure he's a fucking nightmare but like that's her nightmare you know she chose we need to stop acting like people don't have agency over their own lives She chose, we need to stop acting like people don't have agency over their own lives. Yeah. I didn't see it. She's not, I don't think she's a victim. I don't.

No. I think there are things in her life that she takes control over and there are things that she defers to her husband on. And I think that's actually relatable for a lot of women who juggle family and husbands and work. And maybe it's not the way that you would do it. Doesn't make it wrong. I also just don't think this article is an accurate picture of their life just given like what we know about how journalists journalize yeah and given how short it was like you can't capture we need a

10-bar docuseries if we really want to know what it's like we do need a docuseries that i would watch a thousand percent but i think things like this like we are going to get less and less of like a behind the scenes look at ballerini farms because you get scarred. And I think you're sort of naive when you enter the public space. They don't think they're doing anything wrong. They're just living their life and people happen to like it. And, and it's different.

Yeah. But there's nothing wrong with it. They're not killing people. Yeah. Um, and so you invite someone into your home from a major news outlet cause you have nothing to hide. You actually have like an abusive, you're not bringing journalists into your house. You're

not stupid. And I don't think we'll get stuff like this anymore. Yeah. Well, I think she does a good job of tuning it out because I feel like she's been like getting criticism, you know, more quietly, but forever because that's for what she does. There's a lot of people who aren't going to like it. But she said like she really doesn't tune into it i think she literally takes her videos uploads them puts her phone away very healthy yeah i mean she's kind of too busy for the rest of it yeah oh and then like this i sent it to you but you obviously could not fucking i can't know i did i watched it on my she had done a get ready with me like a couple of weeks ago being like get ready with me we have a reporter from the times coming and like we're doing a photo shoot and they're gonna put

me in a gown and then she did like a little vlog day in my life she was like clearly excited about it yeah and like this is how it turned out like that's sad yeah yeah damn she needs to come on the toast if she wants friendly interview sit down with the ballerini girls the ballerini herself and like the farm is called ballerina girl the ballerina herself and like the farm is called ballerina farm like it's all about her if he was really like no jackie people's takeaway is like look he named the farm ballerina to remind her of the dream that he stole from her that's not even a good take what i would what i thought you were gonna say which would have been like a more enlightened take is that he's like milking squeezing everything out of her like her

brand her this or that like you know just squeezing her dry yeah like one of his cows yeah yeah no like she literally milks cows right into her coffee like it's iconic it's iconic behavior sorry it's unique new york okay it's unique new york and it's not for like i'm not i don't i'll never milk a cow day in my life but i can appreciate that other people are doing it no and it's just like at the end of the day for whatever reason you might follow ballerina farms some people I think it's like actual you know you want hands-on tips and tricks but for other people it's just fun and it's entertaining and it's different for me like when the things come up I'm like oh I have no inclination to have eight children or buy a farm but I'm like oh how fun It's like a little video.

It's like a little piece of TV. Yeah, it is. And by the way, I don't know if I'd ever really seen like many pictures of her. She's extraordinary looking. She's gorgeous beyond. Oh my God. She's like insanely beautiful.

Every picture, whatever she's doing underneath the cow's teat. And even the breastfeeding in the storage room. The way they ended the article, which was about the pageant, which felt so abrupt abrupt by the way um i thought the explanation because i think it is a fair question like why would you want to why does this pageant mean so much to you um enough to go you know 12 days postpartum you've just stopped bleeding and she was like you know it was something my sister called me up and said like let's do together just to sort of and she

said quote break things up like okay so she's doing something for herself. It's clear that she said the pageant was for her. And we're clowning on that. Yeah. Please, like I can't. And now the author is mad that Daniel put her pageant gowns in the garage. Why she never wears them.

Right. That's just somebody who's into, you know, cleanliness and organics. It's a bad use of space. Yeah, and they used to be in her bedroom cupboard. That sounds like a worse putting a dress in a cabinet so then they got moved for the kids stuff oh no why would the kids stuff go in her bedroom cupboard like it makes sense and so now she's sadly in the garage no the article was end of story and then that's the end that's the

end like they leave you with that look daniel's taking away more of her dreams i can't now if you want to be mad at anyone, be mad at them kids. They stole her dreams. No, they are her dream, but you don't get that in this article. No, it was a very clear hit piece. And I'm shocked at, you know, actually, we were in the library yesterday

and I was picking out a book to read to some of the kids. Not like local kids, like the kids I'm related to. I'm sorry. Sounds like I'm like doing like a reading. No. And I was just like looking at, i was surprised how many books they had on like different topics like not just like the farmer in the well and they were like media literacy for

kids and i was like oh how stupid is this seeing people's inability to like read through the clear agenda in this article i think we all need to read that book yeah because the the the response i think and you're allowed to have whatever sort of takeaways you want, but just to read this article and believe everything that this lady said without any, without questioning any of it, it lacks a reading comprehension in my opinion. Well, now I'm so far on the other end of the spectrum that it's like, when I'm going into an article like this, like I know, like I'm reading everything, like questioning, disagreeing with that. Like, so it takes a lot for the article to actually convince me of what they were trying to convince me of though it's still possible I agree I could

read an article and be like wow what a fucking nightmare our opinions of pieces like this are colored by our own experience and that's important to our to know yes but no I still feel like even after it took so many years like we get what one of these a month, maybe someone's coming down and it's just become a joke at this point. And I think really like the Huberman threshold, like that was insane. That was really crazy. The cover of such an iconic magazine for such a nothing story.

Yeah. Yeah. So I would say like, you're going to have to work harder, but like stop trying. Why not just write like a nice thing about someone? Well, because we wouldn't be talking about it. That's the thing.

No, I would love a look into ballerinas. Maybe we would, sure. But if they did like a completely unbiased, just look at what goes on in a 24 hour period at Ballerina Farm. It wouldn't be as viral. It wouldn't be as polarizing. It wouldn't be spoken about as much as this is. No, and it also like if

it was flattering like it might convince some people to live this lifestyle live in any vein of this this is muckraking they don't want that this is like the this is muckraking it's yellow journalism yeah it's entertaining to be negative and i get that like i'm a negative person but you know at what expense but they don't like this movement no i love it i know it's i mean because like i'm not a trad what literally not in any sort of way but i've like taken kernels from the trad wives that i follow and it has enhanced my life of course your gut health has never been more on yeah no like we're eating so healthy cleaner products cleaner like what's bad i know and i'm like the opposite of a trad wife.

And my stance on this article comes from just like a genuine, like, I just love to let people do whatever the fuck they want. Yeah. And it doesn't have to have consequences for society and just have fun and live yourself, live, be yourself.

Oh my God. I feel so much better getting that off my chest. Like needed. Neilman. I didn't, I did not know that was her name i never pronounced the last neelyman i don't know why and maybe i didn't know that she was a dancer i literally thought her last name was ballerina well her first name is ballerina and her last name is ballerini no i think maybe i knew her name was hannah i was like hannah ballerina i think it's ballerina ballerini farm them living in rio was like kind of glossed over that was shocking like can we dig in on that three kids in rio yeah while still being a professional dancer dancing in rio

so she danced well into having three kids that's insane yeah it's the eight where you've got to put your two two down and she was the first great message for women you can still dance with three kids and most people have one two kids three kids max right they said she was the first dancer at Juilliard in modern history to be pregnant while also a student raising the bar raising the bar like she is superwoman to me a thousand percent but then it was like sad to see like superwoman needs a week in bed here and there that was really sad I think she definitely like I think the viral nature of her life like puts even more pressure

and they keep growing. They have a lot of employees. But I was seeing it as more of a physical exhaustion, not mental. I think both. Okay, because you seem to think it's like more mental,

like, you know, the pressure. I mean, they're not getting out of bed for days on end. I think that goes beyond any sort of physical sickness. Wait, you've never been broken? No, of course I have.

And I don't work nearly as hard as her, but like 10 days in bed, like that to me gives like a true depression. I don't know. That's what it sounded like. Of course. Like I would have wanted to know more. Yeah. No, I think there was like a real article to be written here.

And this was not it. Yeah, no. It was just so convenient. Like, oh, look, the trad wife is like so oppressed. Like, I can't. The trad wife no happy. Correct. Are you ready for our next story i am someone who's not a trad wife who's going through it a bit literally me christina hall claims that her ex josh hall transferred 35 000 to another account like from her account oh damn christina and josh filed for divorce this month after three

years of marriage but their divorces turned contentious rather quickly after the star accused her estranged husband of transferring $35 of her money. $35? That's it? $35,000 of her money into his personal bank account. Well, that's where things get dicey. Like when you know you're going to leave someone and you have joint money, if you transfer it out while you're still married into a personal account, like it's no longer marital property. It's like a really manipulative, crazy thing to do. still married into a personal account like it's no longer marital property it's like a really manipulative crazy thing to do the court documents claim that he was able to divert over 35k of my

separate property rental income into his account i'm asking for josh to account for the funds taken and return them to me as those funds are specifically used to pay any loans obligations property taxes insurance and maintenance for these rental properties so he stole money from her business yeah oh that's really fucking crazy personal account yeah that's theft that's not the mat when you have like a joint account and you guys are like on the verge of breaking up like what you do with that money in the final days of your marriage no no that's what i'm saying when you do that like that is legal and it's just like really unethical when you go into somebody's like business account and start zelling yourself yeah oh we have a problem what's going on with him

she says uh she owns rental property properties in franklin tennessee and nashville she claims josh contacted she's literally a ceo she claims josh contacted her professional property manager via text one day after they filed her divorce and stated hi for june payments can we please get it sent to a different account when it's time oh thank you christina who attached a screenshot of the reported text as an exhibit to her filing further stated she learned about this on july 21st as for his phrasing can we please christina claims it's inaccurate because she had no personal contact with josh on july 8th and i would not have asked him to send himself my money the day after i told him we're getting divorced wait like literally so crazy to steal and then also leave a paper trail like how dumb are you that's so crazy do it over

the phone that's really crazy no i think you know i i hope this sort of tumultuous type of divorce will not put christina hall hack put her off instead put her off of marriage because i have high hopes for her she's gotta hit seven yeah and she can and she will and i believe in her but i think maybe something like this like definitely there'll be a larger gap in between husbands. Or just, you know, more ironclad legal framework for the next one. Yeah. But even if you have like an ironclad prenup or whatever, that doesn't stop somebody from

literally stealing from you. This isn't within the confines of normal marital. Then like not giving her the text message number for the property, you know? Not marrying criminals. But then she has so many walls up and how can you really let love in? Well, it sounds like the beginning of a novel. She's been burned. Yeah. Financially, romantically, professionally.

Obviously, Tarek and the hike. Tarek and the hike. It always comes back. Well, you know what's also weird is that he and the Christina and her ex man have a show that currently airs with Chris, with Tariq and Heather. They do like a battle, very Bobby Flay energy,

like battle of the exit. And how weird is that? Like their show is currently airing and they're literally divorced. Oh, well that's good for ratings. And then she'll get a new man to sub in. Yeah. They're at this point,

they're just kind of like arm candy. They all look the same. They're interchangeable. With the exception of Ann Anstead. Because of her to make a cell wicker. And he was like the silver fox. And he was actually extremely good looking. Yeah.

She'll be fine. But give her back her money. Give Christina back her money. I feel like he has like an issue, you know, where he's like. Yeah. Something like that. It's getting gambling. Alleged.

Because I don't know anything. But it's like only a desperate man does something like that so true also like not me being a trad wife here but like men stealing from women is like so embarrassing like i could die of shame for you women stealing from men it's totally okay yeah take the money and run like she has bills to pay you know you know how hard it is is that being a woman like it is of course are you ready for our next story only if it's the next story that's brought to you by state farm is that perchance it is this episode of the toast is brought to you by state farm we know our toasters can agree that nothing feels better than a personal win like when i got my final piece of

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And Coco Gauff, who's ranked number two in women's tennis in the world, will be making her Olympics debut in Paris. She has been selected as Team USA's female flag bearer just days before the start of the Olympics. And LeBron James will be the male they will lead the U.S. delegation on the Sen oh the Sen is like duty filled publicist for the summer games is opening ceremony on Friday okay I have such a hot take wrong choices no wrong choice love Simone like obviously she's like the face of Olympia and and America but like LeBron James gets so much you know and like the Olympics is his thing, but male and women say one's man, one's woman. Okay. No, that's fine. Like, I just think like if you're an Olympic athlete who

doesn't have like the NBA MLB, like if you're, if you're trained, you know, for every four years, you only have so many opportunities. There aren't a lot of competition options for you. And there's certainly not a lot of like famous platform options. And, and LeBron, like he's literally like the famous, most famous person in America. Like, I don't know. I's certainly not a lot of like famous platform options and and LeBron like he's literally like the famous most famous person in America like I don't know I think there are a lot of male athletes or just athletes in general who's like the Olympics is their thing they don't have anything else like they train for the Olympics and this is their big stage and like I don't know any male I can't no one's coming to mind right now like sort of like Sean White but like you know like Sean White isn't like out here he's a famous famous Olympian. Correct. Yeah. Same with Simone Biles. I do wish they had given.

Simone Biles is not a flag bearer. You just said. Coco Gauff. Oh my God. Okay. Her too. Like she has the US Open. Like they both,

and I get it. Like you won the most famous and I get it. I get it. But like, I don't know. I feel like it's actually really hard to make a living as an Olympian

who's not super famous. In a sport that doesn't get a lot of pay or a high salary. And like, this is their time, you know, like LeBron, like he literally,

like I think sometimes like has a choice. Like I go to the Olympics this year, maybe I'll go. I don't know, I'm feeling kind of tired. I'm not feeling like it. Yeah, like. It's not exciting. I'm sure it's exciting, but like not as it is for other Olympians.

It's not the point of their career. It's like a nice benefit. And sometimes they do it, sometimes they don't. A swimmer should do it. Like this is their time. Katie Ledecky, Simone Biles. I thought, I don't know why I just assumed. I literally, you said Coco Gauff and I do it. A swimmer should do it. Like this is their time. Katie Ledecky. Simone Biles. I thought, I don't know why I just assumed. I literally, you said Coco Gauff and I heard it.

I assumed Simone Biles because she's the most, she's a famous Olympian, you know? And it's Simone's season. And I'm sure that Coco Gauff will win gold. I'm sure that America will win gold in basketball. It's not about who's going to win gold. It's not about that. I just feel like these are two professional athletes,

not professional Olympians. Great. But of course now, like we were saying early in the week, the Olympic ceremony has kind of become like a dick measuring contest. And so we're going to put our best forward and who's the best at, you know, the top of their game,

most famous it's Coco golf. She's young. She's hot. She's on fire. You know, she's setting records, the youngest woman and LeBron LeBron is wrong. Like the goat.

I get it. Yeah. It's a dick measuring contest. Now worth noting that the flag bearers were chosen by a vote by fellow athletes on Team USA. But also, again, like they're probably fans of these two. Okay. That changes things.

They don't know the other people. Well, that's true. That's true. It's hard to get votes when you're a nobody. It's a popularity contest. But that changes things because I'm coming at this like I want the athletes to be happy. And if this is who the athletes chose, then you know what? I changed my mind.

It's the one they got. I'm good with it. I'm good with it. Yeah. I mean, I'm good with it. Like, I'm not going to be happy. And if this is who the athletes chose, then you know what? I changed my mind. It's the one they got. I'm good with it. I'm good with it. Yeah, I mean, I'm good with it. Like, I'm not going to have issue. No, no, I'm not going to take umbrage. I'm not going to have ish. Yeah, she's got the ish.

And if they chose some nobodies, I'd be like, who are these nobodies? Put LeBron up there. We just can't, like. We are insatiable in our unhappiness. We love to complain. And that's just sort of a fun fact about us yeah i'm excited for all of the ceremonial ceremonies agreed the ceremonial sen yeah pray for the sen i'm not

praying for the sen i'm praying for the people who have to swim in it like seriously we need like a medical tent at the end of the sen everyone has to go immediately for testing and they need to be quarantined why can't they swim in a pool i don't think i have to be different it's a dick measuring contest like the olympics have become a literal like who has like we have the scent just go to a pool that's so crazy i know are you ready for our next story theresa judice is slamming toxic people who spread lies off camera in a puzzling post yeah so Teresa took to her Instagram and put out a statement saying and I thought it was about to be like I'm leaving Real Housewives because it's what she said I've been on the Real Housewives of New Jersey for the last 14 seasons and during that time I have seen and been a part of my fair share of drama with my

cast mates I was like oh okay goodbye Teresa nope this is what she said what is happening off camera on social media is absolutely disgusting and is fueled by toxic people who are not affiliated with the show or the cast and are only interested in promoting themselves by spreading their hate through false narratives and lies. It has affected all of us on the cast and our families. They are attacking our children,

going after our businesses, and they're turning something that is supposed to be entertainment into something very dark and toxic. This hate and toxicity has to stop. I'm asking everyone to stop engaging in any negativity towards my castmates and all of our families. Enough is enough.

Love, love, love, Teresa. So nobody knows what she's referring to. And then like Melissa and Rachel Fuda were like posting on their stories, like things that were clearly like about this, being like, girl, it's you, like pot, kettle, blah. I have literally no idea what this bitch is talking about. But it is reminding me of that time on Beverly Hills with Diana and the bots and the guy Patrick and Kathy Hilton we also never got down to the bottom of that yeah I have like I

wish I could lead you guys in some sort of discussion I have no idea what the hell she's talking about okay you won't be leading us in discussion today no you know how much I love to lecture and like teach you about things that I feel you know nothing about. Like I seriously, I'm clueless. So there's not like a level of toxicity and negativity on social media towards the Real Housewives of New Jersey, the likes of which we've never seen before in 14 seasons? I don't know. And I think if there were, it's more directed towards Margaret and Melissa, like then Teresa. Teresa has like this army behind her. And also I think what, and maybe I'm mistaken I think what Melissa and Rachel are sort of referring to is like we said this last season when your husband

hired a private investigator was calling our kids place of work so now that it's happening to you by the fans allegedly now it has to stop but when it was one of our castmates doing it to us like that's what the whole point and they keep bringing up the reunion this particular season, like the envelope. And there was this meeting at Margaret's house being like, we need to get. Yeah. So they keep bringing up,

but it's like, we have been saying this and it's been happening to us from your husband. So now that like some fans, right. So now that some fans are like saying stuff like now it's a problem. Got it. I think, but I also don't know because everybody's talking in code and limericks.

That is so crazy. I know I did. When I was was reading this I thought it was going to be like about the cast shake up the reunion her leaving something by the way I when I read it I didn't think for a second that she was quitting but that's an interesting take I don't think she would have done it it's clearly um an Instagram story that she like wrote up and then screenshotted because that's like Instagram text but that's also like how you write stuff yeah yeah but i think like if you're leaving a show after 14 years like maybe maybe you like make a canva graph yeah i don't know it's hard to make a canva graphic with so much text it's true no it's not perfecting the art of a statement whether it's a positive or a negative one is very difficult so sometimes you just like go bare bones like

text on instagram story screenshot post yeah maybe yeah and anyways this was none of that love love love enough is enough now it's enough i agree like in general enough is enough right conceptually but like why now why this enough why this enough right enough said correct are you ready for our fifth and final story which is kind of some blockbuster news records are being broken okay oh wait i know something passed barbie inside out for inside out two tops frozen two as the highest grossing animated movie of all time okay do these stats account for inflation i think so okay because like to me frozen is so embedded in the culture, like nothing could beat it.

And like, yeah, Inside Out was like popular for a weekend, but it didn't make the impact that Frozen did. So I have to find fault. I have to find fault in this statistic. And so my first thought is inflation. Actually, no, it doesn't account for inflation because Inside Out 2 has now earned $1.46 billion at the global box office.

Disney's Frozen in 2019 earned $ 1.45 billion dollars but inflation has risen by about seven percent since 20 does a movie ticket cost today what it cost in 2019 definitely not definitely not why would it when the cost of everything is more right oh so movie ticket price 2024 oh okay, okay. Google that and I'm going to do 2029. 2024. I guess it depends where you're going. Average ticket price is 1078. And then in 2019, the average ticket price was.

Yeah, my thing is not loading. I've got it. 916. And what was it in 2024? 1078. so it's a buck 50 so i feel like these statistics are kind of meaningless if you're not going to be like an econ major about it okay yeah 1995 435 that's what did what did a movie ticket like used to cost back in the day like a quarter right yeah yeah like a nickel do you ever think about like how rich you'd be if you lived in the 1900s because sometimes it's all I think about. Like with my balance. Yeah.

Like your current balance in the 1900s. Rockefeller. Cause I think about that when like, when I'm watching the Gilded Age and they sometimes will throw out money figures. I'm like, uh, are you kidding?

You're kidding, right? Yeah. They're like, she spent a hundred dollars on drapes. I'm like, where? But what's interesting is the last year that over a million tickets sold.

Yeah. To me, that figure is more telling. For not of all movies combined. In 2019, a billion, 224 million, 504,000 tickets were sold to the movies. Okay, 1.2 billion in 2019. 1.2 billion, that's a really good way to say it.

Yeah, duh. In 2023, 828 million. Well, yeah, everyone was bouncing back from covid like yeah no you could say that so now in 2020 that like 2020 was 220 million okay oh my god i'm 2021 was 444 they're building back they're building back do they have a figure yet for 2024 like where we're at halfway through the year 690 million oh so it's on track to do more yeah it's okay to do more that is interesting but this statistic i'm sorry to like amy poehler and, so it's on track to do more. Yeah. It's okay to do more. That is interesting. But this statistic, I'm sorry to like Amy Poehler and everyone involved.

It's not legitimate. Sorry. And maybe if you had put Mindy Kaling back in the movie and paid her what she deserved, maybe you would have sold more tickets. Myself included. However, you didn't.

So you won't. It's still in theaters and it's still going to rake in more. And then I think one day it will be more. Okay. But somebody needs to do the calculations of how much they need to hit based on like you need to adjust it for inflation yeah that's somebody else that's like what they always say like oh inside out to better than titanic that was literally 35 years ago it cost three dollars to go to the movies most of those lists are adjusted for

inflation as they should be as they should be great look at brie louie he's been such a good boy i'm so glad we were able to talk about ballerina farm i feel like relaxed ever since i've kind of been holding all this in like dying to talk about it i'm glad we didn't talk about it offline prior you know yeah yeah and i didn't get to finish reading it until last night anyway so i read it twice first like just to read it and second to take notes and tear it apart classic so many thanks for the stories they were great thanks for the turdy it was great so looking forward to seeing everybody at jizz no tonight at jizz no tonight i don't know what i'm wearing and that's just sort of what i have to take on now thank you guys so much for listening to the toast the morning morning show we deliver the fastest stories you need to know everybody through friday

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