The Toast - Acknowledge The Space You're In: Wednesday, November 23rd, 2022
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Good morning, Millennials!
Welcome back to the Toast, and happy Wednesday that feels like a Friday.
So while it is Hump Day, and I will sing my Hump Day tune,
it is the final day of the week for most of us because it's Thanksgiving.
So it is Hump Day. Don't forget to hump someone you love.
But also acknowledge the space that you're in.
It is the last day of work before a blessed holiday.
I love Thanksgiving. Hey, Jax. How you doing?
I'm doing great. It's such an exciting week. The Wednesday before Thanksgiving is really one of the peak days
of the year. I feel like when you think about it, you realize how wonderful it is, but it doesn't
get the hype that it deserves because everyone's focused on Thanksgiving, even like the Friday
after Thanksgiving. But like the Wednesday before, it's all ahead of us. We have everything to look forward to. It's Thanksgiving Eve. And I'm really getting into the spirit this year and it's been
really wonderful. I really want to kiss on the mouth the person who decided Thanksgiving would
be on a Thursday. Would I have preferred perhaps a Wednesday? Yes. But the fact that it's not a
Friday, it's not a Saturday, it's not a Sunday, it's Thursday, which means we get Thursday,
Friday and Wednesday is like a half day. No one's really like giving Wednesday any energy.
Oh, I feel like when today is so full for me, I'm so busy between work stuff and prepping for the
big meal ahead. But it's going to make tomorrow even more sweet, like knowing how much I put in
today. And it's going to make the whole weekend like really great. I'm feeling really, really
good about the season, guys.
I'm feeling good about it too.
It's really the most wonderful time of the year
and I'm just excited for all of us.
I'm thrilled.
I'm overjoyed.
I'm feeling humbled, honestly.
As you should be.
Humble pie.
And I know like the Thanksgiving is all about like,
you know, the pilgrims and Columbus
and I know we've canceled Columbus. But can I just say how grateful I am that like, we've not taken that energy to
Thanksgiving. Like I know, I know the story, but like, I still want to celebrate not really even
for, you know, America, but for, for me. Well, I feel like it's become less about the history and
more just about being thankful honestly acknowledging the space that
you're in and being grateful and it's just a day of the year that we as a country just take time
to say thanks for the things in our life of course it harks back to like being thankful for america
but we're also just thankful for the things that are going on for us personally and you know
speaking of jacks what are you thankful for and by the way this is like a message if your
family does this where you go around the table start thinking of your answers now because you
don't want to be a disappointment like your parents your grandparents like say something
meaningful so Jax what are you thankful for for sure but I also feel like it shouldn't be that
hard you know like of course people really like people are like wait over this gravy some people hate the question like an
and want to hope no one brings it up but like just look around like if you're at a gorgeous
thanksgiving meal surrounded by loved ones like you have a lot to be thankful for so true so i'm
thankful for everything every breath every family member that in my life like I'm just thankful I'm thankful for life L'chaim
L'chaim I'm thankful for all of those as well I'm thankful for the toasters I'm thankful for
Diet Coke I'm thankful for my sis Jax this wonderful business we've created that I'm
living my dream I really am there's a lot to be thankful for there really is and I'm living my dream. I really am. There's a lot to be thankful for.
There really is.
And I'm thankful for the Strice Brethren because even though they don't want to work,
even though they don't want to work,
they are the reason that we work so hard,
you know, to give them all of the bully sticks and dental sticks and kibble that their hearts could ever want.
So true.
Jax,
that's beautiful.
Thank you. It's been a great year. It true. Jax, that's beautiful.
Thank you.
It's been a great year.
It's been a great year for The Toast.
And I'm just looking forward to really ending the year in a peaceful,
even though the end of the year is like so chaotic for me
because like we,
the last episode of The Toast is December 16th.
That's when season five officially ends.
And I have 1 million things to do before then,
like before I can officially wrap up the year.
But I have finally put together my holiday travel plans.
It took a long time.
I was supposed to go this place and then,
but I finally ended up last week
or this week actually finalizing it.
And I'm really excited about it.
I'm excited for you too.
You'll have to share all the deets with me offline.
Yeah, well, me and Ben were supposed to be going to Paris,
but then it was like so
expensive so expensive and I'm like for what like I'm not even Catholic like I don't even celebrate
Christmas like why do I have to be in Paris for Christmas and I'm like I have the luxury of like
carrying big I have the luxury of designing my own life I have my own business and I don't have
any children like I can go to Paris whenever why am I going to go at the most expensive time of year it's a beautiful time to be in the city
of lights I know I really and I've never been like I really want to go I was like but I'm so
obsessed with you going to Paris Jackie couldn't believe she was like making fun of me like making
me not want to go no not that yes exactly that no first when you told me that when we were just like
talking about Christmas plans a few months ago and you told me that you and Ben were thinking
of going to Paris I fell off my chair I fell off my chair because you're always a beach you'll
always take a beach over a city let alone like you know a historic city that's a lot of you know
sightseeing and I know that's not what you will do all the time, but like you could go anywhere in the world.
As you stated, you have the luxury of designing your own life.
And like you chose to go to Paris.
It was a shocking choice for me.
But then I started to get so excited thinking about like all of the things
that I needed you to do so that I could live vicariously through you.
Like, of course, shopping, but also Versailles.
There's so much great royal history there that I would have loved for you to see.
And I got really, first I was shocked,
then I was in denial,
then I was a little angry that I wasn't going.
But then by the time I reached acceptance,
I was really excited for you.
And now you're not even going.
You did kind of glaze over the mocking phase,
but it's fine.
I'm strong enough to live without you um she made fun of me
endlessly told everyone she knew that it was the funniest thing like what's so funny I didn't make
fun of you I just like couldn't stop bringing it up she made fun I was just like to everyone like
guess where Claudia is going you'll never guess right no like making fun you guys but it's fine
I didn't go because I was literally mocked out of
it oh my god stop I sat with you and I tried to be tried to watch certain documentaries about
Napoleon to get you excited she came around she came around um but I'm not even going anymore so
all of that for nothing I'm so disappointed let down but I feel like you'll go now that you have
the Parisian itch I feel like you'll go soon. Also, it's worth saying, I've never been to Paris.
So it was just crazy that you were going to do something by yourself without me.
No, you were hurting me because you were hurt.
Hurt people hurt people.
Yeah, I think I was hurt.
I was obviously shocked.
I was probably a little jealous too.
You're going to Paris.
You're always going to be the girl who didn't go to Paris
that's gonna be you it was just a lot and I feel like if the toasters who are listening like
because they know you so well will understand why I was shook to the core no because like one thing
about me is like I really don't like Europe like I don't like those types of vacations unless it's
like the south of France or Positano, you know.
Beach excluded.
Beach exclusion.
Like vacations that require like walking tours and history and sightseeing.
Like that's not how I'm ever going to choose to spend my money and my time.
And the only person who hates that shit less than me, more than me, is Ben.
So I really wanted to go somewhere I'd never been before. And it's like we've done every vacation we ever do is beach, Caribbean beach, beach,
British Virgin Islands, U.S. Virgin Islands, Turks and Caicos.
So we're like, let's do something different.
We're trying to think of places we've never been before that aren't so far.
I can't go over like eight hours on a plane unless I'm going to Israel.
I have to connect with my spirituality.
But other than that, like I'm never going to go to South Africa.
Like I'm never going to go anywhere.
That's double digit flight hours.
Even if Shannon's there?
Even if Shannon's there.
Even though, you know, the Asher family, we are descendants of South Africa.
So I'm still never going to go.
And when it came down to choosing a location, it was honestly like either London or Paris.
I could never go to London without you.
So I was left with Paris.
And I'm like, you know what? Like I could take some cute pics by the Eiff was left with Paris and I'm like you know what
like I could take some cute pics by the Eiffel Tower
eat french fries
smoke cigarettes
like Ben was
the only reason Ben wanted to go
was because he wanted to smoke cigarettes
for those french cigarettes
for the french cigarettes
like it seemed like the right choice
but then when it came to time to booking stuff
like my first
and let's be real
probably only trip to Paris
like I'm doing it up
I want to stay at Mohamed Faid's
Dodi and Mohamed Faid's hotel I want to stay at Mohammed Faid's, Dodi and Mohammed Faid's hotel.
I want to stay at the Ritz.
During the holiday, $20,000.
Like that's not going to work for me.
So I have decided now after, you know, a lot of hype,
I'll tell everyone where I'm going.
I'm going to Belize in South America.
I can't Belize it.
I'm so excited.
And I'm going with Brian, which, you know, I honestly have not traveled without Brian
since I've met him.
Honestly, when I think back to all the amazing trips I've taken, they're all with Brian.
It's because Brian knows how to plan.
He knows how to travel.
He finds like these great destinations that aren't torturous.
It's a nonstop flight.
He really, I've become extremely spoiled by being best friends with the points guy.
And I tried to travel without him and I couldn't do it.
So I'm going with Brian.
Well, that's going to be so fun.
I'm excited for our break at the end of the year.
We do it every year.
So if you're in a new toaster, the season ends.
We always take like the last two work weeks off of the year for our respective vacations.
And I'm looking forward to a little R&R.
Yeah, I am too. And I'm not leaving till, you know, the end of the month. So I'll have some
nice time at home with Theo and a little adventure in South America. I've never even been to South
America. I'm low key, like not well traveled, but I travel a lot. Although I did come to the
conclusion when I was in Charlotte, I did uh we were on a long
car ride and I was bored I tallied up all the states I've been to because of tour I was like
curious if I have I been close to like 50 of them I've been to 36 and I think a goal of mine is
going to be going to all 50 that's so cool you should get a map where you put like you I actually
I actually have a map um it was a gift from someone I no longer speak to, so I don't use it.
But it's like a little pinpoint map to track my tour.
It was actually a very thoughtful gift from a really deeply unwell person.
I'm looking at a map to see where Belize is because it's not where I would have guessed.
No, you're telling me Belize is not in Spain.
I think of Belize as like Ibiza.
Oh, no.
I was thinking of Belize
if I had to,
like if I had to give a guess,
I would have probably said
somewhere in the Caribbean.
It's not far from the Caribbean.
It's South America.
It's like by Chile
and Nicaragua.
But it's not an island.
I would have thought
it was an island.
It's not.
So where we're staying is an island. Like you take a it was an island. It's not. So where we're staying
is an island.
Like you take a little plane
from Belize.
What's the name of the island?
I guess don't tell me.
I'm not entirely sure,
honestly.
I guess don't tell me
like exactly where you're
staying on the show.
Yeah, no,
I definitely won't do that.
Sorry.
So I'm excited.
I'm getting caught up
in the geography.
Do you know that Belize
is home to the second
largest barrier reef
in the world?
What's the first largest?
The Great Barrier Reef?
The Great Barrier Reef, yes.
The Great.
So is this the good barrier reef?
It's the decent barrier reef.
And will you be visiting this barrier reef?
Of course.
I'm going to scuba and, well, I don't scuba, snorkel.
And I'm so excited.
Like Brian's really gotten me out of my comfort zone when it comes to vacationing.
Like prior to Brian,
like I would go on a beach vacation
and like not leave the hotel,
sit my ass on the beach.
With Brian, it's like, let's go scuba diving.
Let's take out a boat one day.
Let's check out these like different caves.
Like I'm really so adventurous.
So adventurous.
I need Brian to take you on a ski trip
so that you get into skiing.
Does Brian ski?
You know what's so funny?
I don't think,
Brian is like literally too tall to ski.
I know.
But he's so athletic.
I'm sure he's just the type of person who's like skied a few times but like if somebody invited him to Aspen he would be like on the black diamond and he'd be fine yeah he'd be perfect
that's Brian like he could try anything and like be perfect at it you know yeah okay I'm gonna have
to like send him a text to get you to take you on a ski trip and then I'll come and then we'll all
ski one thing about me is like I cannot ski. The I
don't know if it's the skis themselves or just the sheer fact that like my shins are required
to hold up my entire body weight but like I'm physically incapable. I think you could do
anything that you set your mind to. I don't think that's true. Speaking of which I have set my mind
to something and I'm making such major strides in my goal
and I'm feeling so hashtag proud.
Driving.
Because I am learning how to drive.
I had my first two hour driving lesson yesterday
with the driving school.
I'm practicing on my off days,
but it was my first like full lesson in the car
with the thing on the hood, you know, student driver,
the whole car is branded.
The driver has brakes and gas to the right.
And I was incredible yesterday I heard that the driver the teaching the teacher told you that you could pass today
yeah it was so crazy because last week I drove with Zach just to the grocery store and I was I
had never had Zach take me on a driving lesson before so I was so surprised at how like calm and patient he was.
And like, he was really like, I guess he just decided he was going to be a good teacher.
And he was like, just being so level-headed and like really patient with me.
And, but still I, I, it's like jerky and the stops were jerky.
And I, I didn't feel like I was a very good driver and it made me like dread
driving and that I'll never actually enjoy it because even with like a good instructor like I
just wasn't enjoying it but then yesterday when I was with like a new instructor from the minute
like we pulled out your girl was cruising your girl was so comfortable like the stop signs jerks
what who and then I was starting to feel like it was the kind of car that I was driving all cars drive differently and like mastering the level of pressure you need to put on the
brake in each car is so different and it's kind of psychotic yeah no so like this Mazda was made
for me and I'm so excited for when I do get my license and I can get a car like now the Mazda's
in the running I'm actually thinking about getting a compact car instead of a midsize SUV
because I liked being more in control of my vehicle.
I didn't see that for myself.
And we like we drove for two hours.
I drove the entire time.
We did all of the different like parkings, three point turn.
I thought three point turn was going to be like the hardest part of driving.
No, it's low key easy.
It's pretty logical.
It's math.
It's right, left, right. math it's right left right yeah or left right left or depending on the turn maybe it is left right yeah it's left right
left you're right about that uh and I even drove on the highway Cher Horowitz the fucking freeway
it was wild and I was so comfortable and it was really a turning point for me like in realizing that I'm
going to get my license soon I'm going to be driving here there everywhere and I'm going to
have freedom and I'm really excited and that's really like I'm sure there'll be other things
that I want to do or accomplish in life but there have been like a few big things over the years
that I've needed to tick off like cooking look at your girl look at your girl came through with
blind colors and
like driving for the last 15 years has been stuck at the top of this list and like once I accomplish
this like I'm gonna I'm just feeling so proud like no tackling accomplish it yeah tackling new skills
as an adult is so fulfilling and that's how I felt at one point about skiing.
Like teaching myself how to ski as an adult
was a huge thing.
And now I love skiing
and I feel like it could happen for you.
Well, by the way, that's why I was like so emo
when I was talking about reading the other day.
Right.
And I feel the same way about reading for me.
Like something in my adult life
that I just didn't see for myself.
So now once I finish driving, like I'm gonna have to sit down
with my Buckingham Palace planner and think about like,
what are other things that I want to learn how to do in life?
Well, a couple of years ago, I taught myself how to knit.
And I still remember it's like something you never forget.
And it's one of my favorite.
I don't do it enough, but it's one of my favorite things to do.
Yeah.
That's a good hobby.
Yeah, it is a good hobby. I don't, I'm a
little short on time for hobbies right now. So it needs to be something that's not just like.
It has to be functional too. It has to be functional like cooking and feeding a family.
Right. Um, well, while you were feeding your family last night, I finally got to see that
play I've been talking about for like a month um called Titanic the musical Titanic spelled t-i-t-a-n-i-q-u-e
and oh my god it Jackie you would love so it's like a parody of the the film okay um with Jack
and Rose and Kathy Bates and they like have all these characters who play like the Victor Garber
character who play the Kathy Bates character but it's like nobody knows those people's names they
only know Jack and Rose so Victor Garber's character's name was Victor Garber character who played the Kathy Bates character. But it's like nobody knows those people's names. They only know Jack and Rose. So Victor Garber's character's name was Victor Garber.
It was so funny.
It was like this very satirical retelling of Titanic with music.
And all the music was Celine Dion.
And Celine Dion was like the host of the storytelling.
And the woman who played Celine Dion, first of all, had an amazing voice and did the best
Celine Dion accent. How are we? Thank thank you very much it was so good I was cackling you know I hate I hate plays
like it's just not my thing but it was 90 minutes no intermission perfect length Broadway take notes
and it was just it was hysterical and there parts, moments of it where I was like, damn, like this is, would be even
funnier if Titanic wasn't like an actual tragedy that killed 2000 people.
But I did feel like they remedied that.
Like, first of all, at the end, they had everyone saying my heart will go on, like in memory
of the people who passed away.
It was really sweet.
And they do something in the, in, I don't want to spoil it, but like a part of the plot
that they change, like actually it's like more dignified.
It was just, it was amazing.
I need to see it again because like I need to just like absorb it once again.
It was so good.
That's awesome.
It really was.
I'm happy you had a nice night out.
And then you went to Rebecca's engagement party.
Yes.
And then I headed off to Becky from the Redheads who got engaged last night.
We had like a surprise party for her right after she got engaged um your presence was sorely missed but
when I tell you I never saw a bitch so happy in my fucking life like she was screaming I've been
to a lot of engagement parties and honestly I don't think I've ever seen a girl so excited like
so happy obviously she was happy to get engaged but I think she was so shook that like everyone
from her life like friends from different
you know from camp from college from home her family like from out of town everyone was in town
and I think like she was just really overwhelmed and it was like it was such a happy night it was
a true Simcha oh that's so beautiful um it really was I spoke to you guys last night but I'm gonna
call Bex again today I'm so happy for her and we'll be celebrating on Redheads for sure we'll
be we'll be celebrating also Redheads. For sure. We'll be celebrating.
Also, Redheads programming update.
I'll share on our Instagram.
But we're going to drop the episode a week later than usual for a few reasons.
One, it will allow us to record together in person, which is always exciting.
And two, as it is the last episode of the year, we do a whole roundup of all the books
that we read this year.
Our top three books that we each read personally.
We all vote on the number one, two two and three redheads books of the year and so we want to have that
extra week to like read more books so that we can add it into our roundup so second thursday
of december the redheads will be here um so that's all the catching up that i had to do we
have a fab show we've got five stories but it's also Wednesday. And so we're going to finish off this week,
you know,
with a little,
a little grace,
we're going to help our toasters through whatever it is they're going
through.
We have some unique dear toasters.
I want to say our third and final one is unlike anything we've ever had.
And it will tug at the heartstrings.
That's what I'll say.
Oh,
okay.
I'm excited to get into that.
We have some interesting stories, too.
And I think it'll be great to carry us into the Thanksgiving week.
Also, just need to plug one second.
Did you see my pie last night?
I did.
Apple, dulce de leche, apple pie, magnolia table recipe.
Can you believe it?
I can't.
Your girl cooked a pie.
Cross it off the list have you
ever made a pie off the list no it's a lot of hard work the coal miners could never literally
so without further ado where are the choice brethren oh they're cooking the turkey for
thanksgiving thank you brethren it is time for the Fast Five Stories that you need to know before the glorious holiday weekend.
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let's talk about that
let's
I wish someone would
okay are you ready for our first story that's so
fucking twisted it had to be the first story
okay I am but can I talk about something
about myself really quickly for one last thing
before we start talking about other people
look at my microphone sure sure so yesterday we posted on our instagram
um a little graphic of you know claudia's favorite stories things she's always repeating
yes and a lot of people had good suggestions for things that we should add and i think a lot of
people also got confused between this list and the list of my regrets they're very different this list is stories like
I'm always telling acting like it's the first time you guys have ever heard them also there's
a difference some people were writing like stories that are just like a story that you've told once
it's like a famous story yeah but okay yeah that's in like the but I've only said that once so that's
not one of my favorite repetitive stories no there's a difference between like a famous Claudia story and a story it's like no one could say anything and Claudia finds a way
to bring up this story that she loves talking about so a good example of that that we should
add to the list is me being on a boat with Leonardo DiCaprio I talk about it all the time
it was in my book um yes I just will say considering like the magnitude of that you
actually don't talk about it like it's it not like, you know, Keenan's Uber drivers
where it's like, no, like, okay, to hear it once is enough.
No, I completely agree.
Okay.
Also, I don't really talk about this that much anymore,
but that other episode of SVU
where the nanny was kept in the trundle.
Maybe just SVU.
Okay.
Hold on, let me keep reading there was no you know what i have to be the one to to determine because i'm the one who listens to him oh the celebrity documentary conversation
like i do always like drag sean mendez and praise lady gaga so fucking true so fucking true like
whenever we're talking about celebrity documentaries i talk about how like either you need one Lady Gaga or you don't need one Shawn Mendes and it's
true oh my god it's so fucking true you're always talking about five foot two um I am always talking
about five foot two also I didn't realize I spoke about this that much but I must because somebody
was like when Claudius was in her first year of her communication course and half the class said
they wanted to grow up and be Juliana Rancic you've it's like i've only said that like twice yeah yeah yeah i agree it's not
there yet it's so true like jessica simpson being your birthday buddy i i just can't talk about
jessica simpson without mentioning that we do have the same birthday because it's like
literally part of my personality also people who commented cuba gooding jr like are you guys okay
i don't really talk about it that much no No, not even that. But like this whole, this list is like a joke. Like that's not a joke.
No. And it's only funny when I say. No. And it's like, it's not annoying that you keep talking
about the time that you were, uh, harassed by Cuba Gooding Jr. Sam Hunt's DUI. Okay.
I do talk about that a lot. I feel like like though we're we're straying though from like
i agree i don't dennis's funeral you know that's like yeah textbook the photo of megan and harry
with the umbrella yes so iconic so literally movie star movie star i'm gonna have to go through this
list and edit because okay we're getting far away I trust you but thank you to everyone for
their um suggestions and recommendations yeah like someone suggested Bonneville and it's like no
that's just a famous Claudia story you told it once yeah same with Paul Rudd but he did
teach me gymnastics I literally I'll take that to the grave I have to meet Paul Rudd I have to ask
him if he ever worked at five-star gymnastics in Long Island. Yeah. Slumdog millionaire.
Sweeping the Oscars.
That's the perfect example.
Yeah.
But they did.
They swept the Oscars that year.
Oh, here's a great one.
The tax story.
About how you like your first year of being an influencer taxes.
Do I tell that story a lot?
A couple.
And I think it was in your book, too.
It was in my book.
All the more reason to go purchase it.nojob.com book yes uh there was one other thing that I just wanted to say and then we can move on oh the voice class you took in college
what do I say about that I don't know but that's not Dennis's funeral someone said I did take voice
lessons in college here's a story you don't talk about enough the's not Dennis's funeral. Someone said. No, but I did take voice lessons in college.
Here's a story you don't talk about enough.
The time you flush the car keys down for the rental car in the highway bathroom.
That's what we don't talk about enough.
Yeah.
Because she wants us to forget and some of us can't.
Because I want to forgive you and I want to forget you
that's the crazy that was a tough day for me that was a really really tough day for me and by the
way it's not just like the rental car keys it's the jaguar car rental car that we rented to treat
ourselves for a really fun weekend I am waiting for the day because we just like left that rental
car in some parking lot and I believe it's still there. Budget rental car was like, yeah, we'll come pick it up.
I believe that somebody like one of these days,
I'm going to open up my credit card bill
and there's going to be like a $250,000 charge from budget
for like the car that we never returned.
No, you're going to go to buy a house
and you can't get a loan because you have horrible credit.
God forbid.
God forbid.
Knock wood.
Actually, you check your credit score, though.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, and Chase always lets you know
when, like, it's fucking up.
When it drops.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, nothing has happened yet,
and I like to think that they retrieved the car,
but there's truly no way of knowing.
Unless we were to go.
It's probably still sitting in that Connecticut rest stop
because there's no key.
You can't even steal it.
Damn. No, you could steal without a key. Yeah, that rest stop. Because there's no key. You can't even steal it. Damn.
No, you could steal without a key.
Yeah, that's true.
And we left it open.
But yeah.
We did leave it open because we didn't have any key to lock it.
Oh, so the key is like in the sewage system.
So it's probably still connected.
It's in the ocean now.
That's true.
Not me polluting. OK, now let's get into our first
story that is so twisted that it had to be the first story Balenciaga apologizes for a bondage
themed campaign featuring a child and an excerpt from a SCOTUS ruling on child pornography so
Balenciaga has had to apologize in the last one day for two instances of sexual misconduct relating to minors.
First, they have a campaign that has kids posing for kids clothes and holding bears that are wearing BDSM style harnesses, which elicited outrage from people who saw these images. And then some eagle-eyed viewers saw that one of their photos that they posted
is one of their bags on a pile of documents on a desk.
And the documents are actually the ruling from a Supreme Court ruling
that relate to child pornography and actually upheld part of a part federal child
pornography law so Balenciaga issued a statement and they appear to be laying blame at the
photographer and are vowing to sue the photographer but their statement said we apologize for
displaying unsettling documents in our campaign we take this matter very seriously and we are
taking legal action against the parties responsible for creating the set and including unapproved items for our spring 23 campaign photo shoot
we strongly condemn abusive children in any form we stand for children's safety and well-being
i just feel like if you get into a place where you have to um say we strongly condemn
abusive children in any form as if it was up for debate um you got a problem. No, here's what's, like, I saw at first, like, the pictures of the kids.
I'm like, that's just, like, really bad judgment.
I think, like, while it's inexcusable,
I could see how, like, people would, like, not think of it.
Whatever.
I could see how maybe it slipped through the cracks.
But then that paper with the SCOTUS thing i'm like this is layered this is like
a conspiracy like maybe signaling to all i don't know it's fucking weird no like there is at least
one child abuser who is working at palenciaga or on this campaign like working through the
photographer whatever like yeah root him out or her no it's very very disturbing this
is like not it's giving him obviously but also this is when they had to apologize for the for
the bears thing that was a separate um instagram story and they said our plush bears shouldn't
our plush bear bag should not have been featured with children in this campaign. But it's like, who are the bears for if not children?
So who are you making a BDSM bear for?
If you're making it for adults who are then still pedophiles
who are into bears.
No, fuzzies is what they call themselves.
Furries, furries.
Furries.
If you're into stuffed animals, that's a thing.
But I didn't know that Balenciaga was like making swag for the furries community.
It's a pretty niche audience.
No, it's definitely a different strategy.
Something we've never seen before.
It's tough.
That's a competitive market that luxury stores.
But the thing is, it's like not okay.
It's not normal.
I don't know what the fuck these people are thinking.
And every now
and then you know like a brand will get backlash um and sometimes I feel as though you know people
are being dramatic or like looking into it or like you could really see a world where a bunch
of idiots didn't realize didn't realize this is so like not to sound like a conspiracy fucking
twisted twisted and calculated it seems so
intentional and subtle I'm like they didn't think anyone would zoom in and read the copy of the
papers in the background of this product shot I'm so turned off by this brand I think it's it's
it's just not okay I can't think of any other words. I'm sorry. Yeah. I think there's two different conversations to be had. I think the documents thing is so twisted. That doesn't
happen by accident. Like no, whether it's someone who is like researching child pornography laws,
and then those were the documents in the office that they put on the desk maybe, or like it's
some intentional person like signaling, like, hey subliminal messaging hey look at me
like that's so fucking twisted and I feel like one child pornography and like child abuse and
pedophilia is so rampant in like the world and it's so crazy to me we talk about like I can't
even wrap my head around how all the sex trafficking, millions of people a year don't even know about it.
And then you see shit like this
and it's like,
it's even more prevalent
than you could possibly know.
And then there's the other thing
where it's, yes,
as you said,
like a judgment error.
But if your judgment error
is BDSM and children
and mixing the two,
you need help.
You are sick. I feel like kids are just they just
the line just keeps moving and of course this this crosses the line for everyone but the fact that
anybody thought that these two thought it was okay themes could collaborate for a shoot like
we're a sick people no it's well not me it's very it's very disturbing
and not you if you're a toaster but you hundred world at large no it's it's very disturbing and
i think we must protect the kids we got to protect the kids nobody's protecting the kids um actually
the kids are i feel like less protected than ever the people are using like kids to protect adults
Actually, the kids are, I feel like, less protected than ever.
People are using kids to protect adults.
Yeah.
Protect the children in all ways, shapes, and forms.
Let kids be kids.
And if you have to ask BDSM and children, they don't jive.
No, they do not.
So I'm actually, not that I'm, I don't think I'm a Blenciaga girly.
I actually think their shit's pretty ugly.
I don't think I own anything. If I was ever tempted, though, like, I'm actually not that I'm I don't think I'm a Blenciaga girly. I actually think their shit's pretty ugly. I don't think I own anything.
If I was ever tempted, though, like I'm out.
Like you guys need to do a full investigation into the rampant pedophilia in your company.
Agreed. Because if it's making it into like the consumer facing advertising, it runs deep.
Yeah, that's true.
So figure your shit out.
Mm-hmm.
Are you ready for our next story?
Yes.
Positive, wonderful news.
Cheer star Gabby Butler signs with the WWE.
That's a mouthful.
The WWE.
She said, I never thought cheerleading would take me this route.
Cheer star Gabby Butler is ready to take athleticism to a new sport the longtime gymnast has officially signed a contract
with WWE she exclusively shares with People Magazine Gabby says she fell in love with
wrestling this summer after attending SummerSlam in Nashville she said I was blown away by what
they put on she admitted that she never considered the sport. She was focusing on cheer. She said,
I was so involved in cheerleading, in the cheerleading industry for so long, and I never
really looked into anything other than cheerleading. But when I went to SummerSlam, it really just
opened my eyes to the athleticism and the dedication the athletes bring into the ring.
She says she admired the way they performed and the competitive atmosphere, which isn't so different
from her experience in cheerleading. It was almost like I was watching a cheerleading competition, but wrestling edition. You know, one of the huge takeaways I had from Cheer,
the documentary, was like how much of a shame it is that there's not really a life for a professional
adult cheerleader. It's a sport that ends at the college level. And it's like, what do you do after
all that training? You're 21. You've given your whole life to this sport. And you have to go and
get a job like in a restaurant or in marketing like it's like it's
not what you had been training for and I never really thought about this as an option and I have
to say I think this makes a shit ton of sense and I actually think this is an amazing next step for
Gabby Butler amazing next step it makes so much sense I can't believe it's not been thought of
before or maybe there have been like professional cheerleaders who go into WWE but they weren't famous before from cheer because there was
no big documentary about them so we don't know but I think that this is so awesome I think this
is great for Gabby's career because she can continue doing what she's doing and in the
spotlight and I think it's great for WWE because I think it will bring a new audience she has such
a huge audience a young audience and I think that on all fronts, like what would,
this has the girl boss town stamp of approval.
GBT stamp of approval, yeah.
But also the WWE has been just kind of killing it recently
in their castings.
Like they cast Logan Paul.
And I think that was amazing for them
because Logan Paul has become, you know,
somewhat of like a figure in the wrestling space.
And he has such a huge, young international audience.
And I think Gabby Butler is just like another A plus
casting for them.
I think this is great.
Yeah.
And she will definitely have the chops.
I think there's a little more she'll have to learn,
like especially about the like perform,
like the-
The staging.
The theatrics. But I think she will be very successful did you check your dms this morning did you see
that um there's a big toaster in uh wwe diva community she dm'd us this morning be right back
why don't you show it to me like you're in the chat and so I figured and I responded so I thought you would see it she was like loving the toast and she's a really big WWE diva so um shout out
and that was exciting to see this morning it's just a WWE sort of day you know when that happens
for sure I don't see a single thing in my DMs but I'll look into it deeper later
okay it's cool stuff maybe it's just you um you're there this is great I know how
Instagram DMs work okay I didn't see it you're blind I'm sorry I love Gabby Butler and I feel
like she has you know done everything she can do until a certain age like she transferred to
multiple colleges she did like these summer programs She keeps doing what she can to like get on squads. Gabby Butler is like the most educated
woman in America because she keeps going to college. A junior college, a senior college,
a four-year program, a two-year program, a summer program. She keeps joining different programs to
get on different squads because there's really nowhere to go after college. So she is just
taking her time getting her degree. And I love it.
I really do.
Yeah, she's getting her degree on her own time.
Do you think she'll cheer for Education Connection next year?
That's what Education Connection needs.
They need a commercial with Gabby Butler.
GBT, stamp of approval.
So yeah, some news that makes sense today.
You love to see it.
Some athletic news.
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Our next story, Julia Fox says she dated Kanye to get him off of Kim's case.
Did you see Julia's TikTok? So it's been real. I was thinking about it this morning, actually,
because this is just the nature of the Internet. Julia Fox became really popular on TikTok like
two months ago when people were like saying and commenting, you know, Julia Fox is really not what
we thought she is. She's an intellect. She's a woman who supports other women.
Like they were gassing her up, you know, like living for it.
And, you know, what the internet giveth, the internet must taketh away.
So then it was like the narrative started to change.
It's like, well, how great can Julia be if she dated Kanye?
He's a misogynist.
So it's like now her fault, everything Kanye has done.
And so she is being like super transparent responding
to comments being like this is what I think about this and this is my response to this
not doing any like formal statements or anything she was like I was gonna put this all in my book
but you know what like let's just get into it now yeah so she really got into it I was surprised at
like how I never heard her talk so into one long stretch like that even though and it just felt
like she was being really honest and like talking about like the a thing that everybody wants to know about which was like that one month
because even though we watched that interview of her on call her daddy I feel like we didn't get
um no I feel like the interview on call her daddy was actually like a really poor representation of
who she actually is especially because the only thing people took away from that was Anca Jam
right no no actually she's extremely well read and really smart it was
like her life story but at the time she was dating Kanye they broke up like two days later and so she
wasn't really talking about dating Kanye like and what that was like so I it was uh it felt to me
like the first full picture that we saw of it so she talked about like how they got together she
said I remember he was texting me and I wasn't really answering and I didn't want to talk to
a celebrity again because nothing ever comes of it it's boring and they're not what you
think they're going to be like so true she noted that she realized Kanye wasn't giving up and
that's when she realized that she may be doing his ex-wife a favor by answering she said then I had
this thought I was like oh my god maybe I can get him off Kim's case and get him to like me and if
I knew anyone could do it it would be me because when I set to my mind to something I do it and she talks about when how when he was with her like he was really normal
and he wasn't bothering Kim and he wasn't tweeting and he wasn't on social media and then when he did
do all of those things she was out so let me just say I don't believe that that like I don't believe
Julia Fox's impetus and only impetus for dating Kanye
was to be a friend to Kim like I just well she talks also in the video how like she's always
admired the Kardashians they bought her clothing line for their store by the way 10 years ago yeah
and we know that we know that um because like when she popped off then people started finding like
anytime she's ever said anything about the Kardashians and she's a huge fan because she's
obviously a woman of taste I feel like when factoring her decision
to date Kanye maybe it couldn't maybe it was five percent let's help Kim maybe it was maybe it was
one percent yeah 20 percent Birkin no but also like look what became you know maybe nobody knew
Julia Fox before the opportunities this could
provide she's the it girl of fashion she goes to every fashion show she walks in fashion shows
she's literally in magazine spreads her podcast is huge now she's huge on TikTok like
that's what happens when you date Kanye not to like strip her down to that her is her only
accomplishment she's obviously very accomplished but the only reason I know who she is and the
only reason why millions of people know who she is
is because of Kanye.
And that's fine.
You would do it too for a check.
Like, I understand.
Like, I would do it.
Yeah, I think.
So let's not.
She knew that.
Let's not pretend.
It's a platform.
But also, I think there's also something about her
that people have grabbed, like people are obsessed with
or the industry is obsessed with.
Because Kanye has been spotted with other women. Yes, of girls over um you know the course of the last
few years since they were divorced and even before he even met Kim and like what Julia
where she is is kind of unprecedented yeah no I completely agree I think like once we all got to
know her I was ready to write her off like once Kanye I was like all right this is the end of the
Julia Fox chapter but she kept popping up and everything I was seeing I was like she's kind of
wacky she's really smart she's got charisma there's something there there's a star quality
there which is why like you know people on TikTok are obsessed with her um but we'd be remiss if we
didn't at least acknowledge that that's all because of Kanye yeah like where we met her but I think
that happens to other people all the time they have like a moment and then they make the most of it and they're here to stay, you
know, like because they have that star quality.
That's like that reminds me of Emrata in the music video.
Yeah.
You know, you forget that that's where you saw her first.
And so many other girls are in famous music videos and they're just like that.
But now you actually forget that's where you first met her.
And because she does.
Mason Ramsey.
She has so many other things.
No, Mason Ramsey will always be like the boy yodeling in Walmart.
I know.
Not to me, though.
To me, he's just like a really talented, young, sweet kid.
Who yodeled in Walmart.
Right.
But I do often forget.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't think of him as the Walmart yodeling kid.
Mostly because he's grown up so much.
He actually looks so different.
I think of him as like the viral. Yeah. No, the Walmart yodeling kid. because he's grown up so much he actually looks so different I think of him as like the viral yeah no the Walmart yodeling kid but like he it does so much
more still but I don't think you could ever separate him from that and I don't think that
you should ever separate him from that but I think for like Julia and Emrata like those were
like launching pads they and but they stuck around it's what they've made of it yeah. And I think there's a lot of people who have gone viral, especially for singing.
And a lot of them don't have the chokehold that Mason Ramsey has on our culture.
Yes.
Yeah.
That was the point I was trying to make.
Got it.
OK, I understand.
It's a separate but different point.
But I understand the point.
No, I think it's the same point.
No.
That's not the initial point.
Like now you're gaslighting me because you were no the point we
were saying was like people who get a platform everyone gets a platform but like in order to
stick around you got to have something right and that's literally right mason ramsay what i was
saying was you actually forget what that initial small thing was that they did because they've done
so much more since and you said that's what you were saying you said like mason ramsay and then you said like mason ramsay
so like mason ramsay yeah but we can't forget i can forget i don't even think about walmart
but maybe that's because i'm such a mason fan i don't think anyone's a bigger mason fan
do you still think of him as a walmart yodeling kid like i think of him as like
old town road i think of him as like you know teenage heartthrob i think of him as like the viral internet yodel country singer who's done amazing things and it still has his
sanity i'm on my way i don't want to take for granted this ground on which i'm standing
gorgeous his music is so good that. That one song is fucking fire.
It's very beautiful.
On my way up the mountain,
I want to look around
and take in every sunset
before it fades.
He's got to get the little yodel in there.
If you like country music,
listen to On My Way by Mason Ramsey.
You're going to be really surprised
with what you hear.
It's actually a perfect Thanksgiving song. It it's all about slowing down looking around taking in what's happened to you being grateful for all that you
have it's really beautiful it's about acknowledging the space you're in quite literally are you ready
for our next story it's another space you could be in taylor swift's Cornelia Street rental townhouse hits the market at $45,000 a
month after the home served as inspiration for the track about her early days of her romance with
Joe Alwyn. So Taylor's iconic Cornelia Street townhouse has hit the rental market in London
for an eye-watering $45,000. Not London. I'm'm sorry the West Village. You know what all this time I
thought it was in London and then I saw it was located in the West Village and I thought that
was London too. Oh my god you've been out of New York for a month are you okay? Because you know how all like
New York neighborhoods are they have Soho, Chelsea there's also in London. Oh that's true I never
thought about that. And I also just assumed like it was Jo she had a house in London on Cornelia
Street. I literally in this moment just learned that Cornelia Street is about Manhattan and not London.
No, but there's that line in the in the bridge about being in the tunnel and turning around.
She was literally in like the Hudson.
I mean, the Lincoln Tunnel and like went back, you know.
Are there not tunnels in London?
What about the tube?
I don't know.
But like we call in New York, it's like the tunnel, you know?
But like they might have a tunnel.
Well, one, I don't know the music.
But they don't call it the tunnel.
I don't know the lyrics as intimately as you do.
But that wouldn't I wouldn't hear the tunnel and be like, was this set in New York?
Like I just to me, it just was set in London.
It's like the album of London boy.
And it's just a London album.
Well, it's not.
With London tings.
I'm shocked.
Claude, go rent this townhouse in the West Village.
I know.
The thing is, is like, I've seen pictures of the inside.
It's beautiful.
There's like a pool, which is unheard of. Yeah, there's a pool.
The outside is literally one of the fugliest things I've ever seen in my life.
It's like this purple looks like a carriage house.
I do believe it is like a former carriage house from like, you know, gilded times.
From the next door neighbor.
Right. That was converted into an actual home and it's beautiful on former carriage house from like, you know, gilded times. From the next door neighbor. Right.
That was converted into an actual home and it's beautiful on the inside, but like it's
genuinely one of the ugliest houses I've ever seen.
That's so funny because when I was reading the article earlier, it said that she was
living here while her Tribeca apartment was being renovated.
And I just thought to myself, she had to go to London because her apartment was renovated.
But I was like, maybe it was an excuse to take a trip.
That's so funny.
No, it takes place in New York.
This whole story just changed for me, but I kind of liked it better when it was in London
no well it's never been in London for me so I'm fine but now think about it because I thought
then you could rent this house in London like you don't need to rent a house in New York you have a
house in New York you could go to London for a month rent it see what's going on what's so crazy
is like when lover and this is just a true testament to
like the economic times because when lover first came out like everyone like found the house I
remember seeing it was like twenty two thousand dollars a month and then like inflation and like
you know the economy and the rental market in New York like all these factors it's doubled now
it's fucking crazy I know wow you should go take a tour as a prospective renter.
Totally.
Don't look for Patreon.
And I can give you one week of rent.
No, not even that.
Just act like you're a big wig.
Yeah.
And then be like, honestly, it's not nice enough for me.
Who needs a swimming pool?
And leave.
Yeah, like, oh, this pool's kind of gross.
Yikes.
Yikes.
You think they've drained the water or Taylor's like.
I think there's Taylor juice in there.
Yeah, I think there's Taylor juice too.
Why would they?
It's also indoor.
It's like harder to do all of that.
And you don't drain your pool that.
You don't drain it between renters.
Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
Yes, ma'am.
It's just a little Thanksgiving hack for all of the hosts and guests out there and it's from TikTok's grandma
Babs Barbara Crisello love her has a brilliant hack for taking Thanksgiving leftovers to go
have you seen this I saw it and I feel like everyone needs to know the social the 74 year
old social media influencer the grand fluencer recently shared a life- She's so cute. Olivia is obsessed with her.
She's really obsessed with her.
She has amazing hacks, and this one's actually life-changing
for giving guests leftovers on the big day.
Use disposable cupcake tins.
So you set up a leftover station when everyone's done eating
and have your guests help themselves using, like,
muffin tins that are disposable.
Like tinfoil material.
Tinfoil material.
They could take a helping of everything.
And then the next day they put the whole thing into the oven.
They get hot, delicious, no dishes.
And you don't have to give away all of your Tupperware.
That's the thing.
It's like, for me, I am either living in a time of Tupperware abundance
or Tupperware depletion.
There is no in between.
It's just like how many people have I had over
and how many other people's homes have I been to in the last couple of months?
And that'll dictate my supply.
Yeah, I'm actually low because I was cooking so much
and I was bringing over like cookies for Kayla all the time.
And I have new Tupperware arriving today in preparation for Thanksgiving
because I know that everyone's going to want leftovers.
But silly old me should have just gotten these muffin tins which I will do actually that's very smart
and very um classic Babs like just making our life easier if you don't follow Babs like she's
a great follow she has amazing recipes and also hacks and she's just precious amazing hacks
especially for hosting Thanksgiving like for large quantities of like peeling washing etc like yeah her i am already going to implement some of
her so i just thought i would leave everyone on that note make sure to bring your own if you're
a guest or a host bring your own muffin tin yeah but also i do feel like sometimes people like
shove you out the door with leftovers and it's like it wasn't even that good the first time no
thank you like how do you politely say no to leftovers oh of course well you could say like that you are
on a diet and like you'd splurge tonight but like you can't you can't be taking this home that's a
good one um or yeah I would just go with that honestly yeah that's a really good one or take
it and like me and Ben sometimes like if we'll take Ben's has this thing where like if he like doesn't like his meal at a restaurant and like doesn't send it back, he'll just take it to go.
Be like, I'm so full, but it was so good.
I'll take it home.
And it's like a full ass meal.
And then if there's someone like living on the street or something like you'll just give it to them.
It's like totally full.
Yeah, that's really nice.
You could do that, too, with leftovers.
Yeah, totally.
So thank you, Jackie, for, for you know ringing in the holiday weekend
with with a nice little hack yet welcome also if you want more hackio wonderful Thanksgiving
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Hey, Jackson Claude.
I have some office drama that I need your help with.
We had our first in-person company happy hour since before COVID.
And needless to say, people got very drunk.
I decided to leave before things got too crazy.
But the next day, I had several different sources tell me that my good work friend who just got married was seen by her employees and her co-workers
making out with another guy at the back of this hotel and it even they even disappeared together
for a long time before I found this out I even talked to this friend the morning after and she
mentioned none of this happening I'm sure if she even remembers do I'm not sure if she even
remembers doing this do I tell my friend that people around the office are saying this about her behind her back
or do I just let it be
and keep pretending that I don't know?
XO, a confused coworker.
Two questions.
One, like how good of friends are you guys?
And two, how many people know that you know?
Could you get away with pretending like you don't know
and making it not your problem
considering like this is your workplace
and you don't need to be getting involved
in people's personal affairs?
Right.
I would avoid any sort of
like inter-work gossip and drama at all costs like I just think deny yeah I honestly wouldn't
tell her maybe she doesn't remember maybe she does remember doesn't like this is a her problem
maybe the less people like maybe she can hopefully convince herself that no one knows and if you're
the only one to tell her then like it just gets really awkward you're bursting the bubble
considering these are your work friends um I would just keep it professional.
You know, it's a very rare occurrence
when you make a work friend that is a real friend for life.
A lifelong.
For the most part, like this is work.
This is not personal.
Like we're here to work and these people are not your friends.
So act accordingly.
No, I completely agree.
And let this just, let this be a lesson to everyone like
never have more than two drinks at a work happy hour like nothing good is gonna come of it
especially as we head into holiday season especially we head into corporate holiday
parties you guys if you want to avoid having to write into unverting yourselves and dear toasters
do not have more than two drinks at the work holiday party and do not be the last one
there leave at appropriate time last one there and go out with your real friends right no make
plans for after so you get a little buzz at the holiday party and then you get to go out with like
your real friends it's a stop along the way it's not the destination uh that's such if you take any
advice from us ever please let it be Do not get drunk at work events.
You will, nothing good comes from it.
And this is your job and you need your job
and you don't want to jeopardize it.
You don't want to feel awkward at the place that you're working.
Like separation of church and state.
You have to work alongside these people.
Totally.
Totally.
That's all I'll say.
Now it's up to you.
And that's also like, this isn't your best friend.
So you don't feel this like obligation to help her through this like it's her fucking problem
you know what she made her bed let her lay in it and you're I think you're off I would stay out of
your problem stay out of it dear Jackson Claude this is a crazy story right seven of my friends
had planned to go to the Taylor concert together but you can only buy a maximum of six tickets
we had planned to buy a set of four seats and then three seats together.
Obviously, it turned out to be harder
than we thought to get through the queue.
So the one person who actually got through
just bought six together.
There were four out of the seven of us
who actually sat in the queue,
opened Capital One cards,
did whatever we could to get pre-sale, et cetera.
It was determined that we would draw names out of a hat
to determine who gets a ticket.
But am I crazy for thinking that the four of us whose asses sat in the queue for hours,
that we should get tickets immediately?
I suggested this and it was like I had four heads.
We ended up just drawing names and the girlie who put her literal heart and soul
into trying to get tickets was the odd man out.
So I have given my spot to her, but secretly I'm devastated that the girls who did nothing
didn't volunteer.
Must be nice to do literally nothing and get to see Taylor.
Am I psycho for being low-key like so mad?
Sincerely, a loyal toaster just trying to see Taylor.
Girl, you are so fucking justified.
And the fact that the friend group didn't immediately draw three names
instead of all seven is so unethical.
What?
Two names they would need to draw.
Well, yeah, put three in a hat instead of putting all seven in a hat. It's so unethical what two names they would need to draw well yeah put three in a hat instead of putting all seven in a hat is so unethical it's unfair and i demand a recount i send this episode to them
that's so wrong on so many levels the girls who worked hard and did in the queue and did all that
shit it opened up their credit like sorry they go and the three of you lazy fucks two of you get
i also imagine that
the four who tried the hardest are the biggest fan so they want to go the most and let me ask
you something is the person who actually bought the tickets did they immediately get to go or
right they have credit card too that is so crazy and foolish and by the way like this isn't binding
in any way shape or form like it should be redone and why won't the four girls you guys are the
majority the girls who waited for together why won't you guys band together no and the girl the
the four girls who who banded together if they band together they have the one girl who actually
physically has the tickets possession is nine-tenths of the law they have all the power
I would say redo just be like you guys this isn't sitting right with me Jenny should be able to go she sat on line all day like no offense you know Susan Larry and Tracy Tracy Tracy Tracy
like you guys didn't do you put in the work and you guys should feel weird about the fact that
you're gonna take a ticket from someone who really wants to go. Honestly, I'm not going if this is the way that we're going.
I don't want this to become the friend group.
But like it's wrong.
It's so wrong.
It's so unethical.
Like that's the perfect word.
It goes against all that is right.
And I'm mad on your behalf.
You are so valid in your feelings.
I wouldn't want to go with these girls.
And you should do something about it.
I would say I'm not going.
The girl who has the tickets should sell them all and everyone can go like fend for themselves.
Yeah, she should make a buck.
No, the girl, the girl should sell three of them.
She'd double her profits.
But the girl isn't even on her side, it seems, because when she suggested it, like everyone
thought she was crazy.
Send this to the girls, the four.
Send this to the four. Like you need to the four like you need to band together those other
three are lazy yeah that's that that's that there's there's no moral ambiguity here no no what's right
is right and what's wrong is wrong and this is clearly wrong but look at taylor like go putting
these friends through the paces. Dividing women.
She would hate to know.
So our third and final Dear Toasters is, like, a little long.
It's longer than we would normally do, but it's so interesting.
And it involves, you know, a strice, bro.
So we have to help.
Okay, third and final Dear Toasters.
Let's get into it.
Hello, Jackson Claude.
I always wanted to have something to write in about, and I fucked around, and I found out. I'm desperate. Let's get into it. dog and he said I'd have to take full responsibility of the puppy if we got one, meaning meals, walks, training, etc. Fast forward a year and of course now he's in love with the dog, let's call him Theo,
and he's been helping out here and there. Since I got Theo, I had planned to get him fixed as soon as he turned one. My husband is now feeling really strongly about not fixing him. We've been talking
about it for months in the hopes of convincing him, making lists of pros and cons, etc. Still,
neither of us are willing to budge. I went ahead
and made an appointment for Theo to get fixed today. And last night, my husband said he was
going to take him on a walk and came back without him. Says he won't let me mutilate Theo and would
rather give him away than let me go through with it. He won't tell me where Theo is and I'm
heartbroken. So much so that I packed a bag and left our apartment for the night to stay at a
hotel. What do I do? I'm sure Theo is fine and that I'll see him again, but this is a crossing a line,
right? Divorce is not going through my mind, but a simple fight and giving up sounds wrong too.
As much as he is helping out, Theo was always my dog and I feel so powerless now. What should I do?
I don't even know what options should be on the table, like a police report, divorce,
folding and not fixing Theo?
Am I being overly dramatic?
Thank you, girls.
From a toaster who was at a loss for words,
P.S. This is not like my husband.
He's not psycho generally and is usually pretty rational.
This is some psychotic motherfucking behavior.
I've never heard of anything like this.
For me, like, this shows a really bad side of your husband. Like this is so manipulative and so childish.
And where is the dog?
Yeah, this is really, really weird.
I have a few questions,
but like the first thing that comes to mind is like,
I'm assuming they don't have kids yet,
but someone who would do this,
like with a dog,
like it just makes you worried about having kids with them.
Because what if you want to do something for your child one day
and your husband disagrees? And so he's going to take your child away from you. Take the child.
Until you come around to his way of thinking. He's treating you like a child. My only question is
like if you're saying this is so out of character and like this is so shocking and you don't really
want to weigh divorce and if you do want kids but now you can't have kids with him if this is
something that he thinks is a normal thing to do then you would probably have to get divorced my question is like what is his reasoning against
fixing him it seems like he has this like a really really strong moral like what is it it's just
because like that's not what he wants for him or like there's some like deeper this is like a hill
that he needs to die on this is his cause Maybe he's like an activist against like fixing dogs,
like mutilation.
No.
Yeah.
Because the thing is like at the core of this argument,
like you're right.
Like dogs really should be fixed.
There's like a number of health benefits.
And what are you going to start breeding dogs in your garage?
Like dogs are already like an overbred species.
Like that's why we fix them.
That's why they get spayed and neutered.
So I agree with you on the mutilation,
if you will. So not only is he wrong there he's doubling down and doing something that is so like yeah no it's
like honestly argument to fix him or not fix him like I don't really I mean I don't I don't think
there's like a right or wrong it's a personal preference but the idea that like because he didn't get his way this is how he responds is extremely insane
and I think that it's a much bigger issue than just like he hid the dog for a night and where
and also like you guys have a lot of friends and family in town is that where he is yeah
is he where the fuck is he like I need to know he did. So I feel like in terms of a plan,
you need to concede on the fixing
just to get the dog back.
If that's like, we have to get the dog first.
So be like, all right, you know what?
I'm so miserable.
I won't do it.
Get the dog back in your house.
Take the fucking dog, pack a bag and get out um and then we'll come up
with a plan like you need to ensure that the dog is returned safely that's number one priority here
because if like this man knows how much the dog means to you and is like punishing you by withholding
it that's like low-key evil and I know you're not considering divorce but like this is really like a
like a psychotic thing to do and really like indicative of a very manipulative side of him.
Yeah, this is a really psychotic thing to do.
I think you need to get the dog back.
So cancel the appointment.
Again, like whether you guys wind up fixing him
or not fixing him is irrelevant.
Even if he was able to like convince you using his words,
like it's not even about whether or not we're fixing the dog.
Oh, I love how he's making this decision
for a dog he didn't even fucking want.
Oh, of course.
And that's just, you know, the cherry on top.
But even if it was equally their dogs, like, that's not how you respond when you're not getting your way.
And that's the concerning part.
So I think get the dog back, table the fixing conversation, and then you need to really assess, like, maybe now in considering this, like, there are some other things that he's done in the past that you're seeing differently.
Like this is a,
right.
Because this series.
And also like,
I think that you need to like,
considering what he did was so serious,
like you need to escalate your response to serious.
And even if that's getting the dog,
taking a beat,
packing your bags,
leaving for a little bit,
like he needs to realize that what he did was absolutely psychotic behavior
period point blank and that you know literally you fuck around and you find out actions have
consequences like you want to be a dog napper you're not going to have your wife at home
yeah because like the the way the fact that like his response was to hurt you so deeply to take
someone's dog away and like not know where they are and like
put them in a constant state of like panic is a really really evil thing I'm gonna give him the
benefit of the doubt and say that he didn't take the dog so that to cause you harm he took the dog
so that he could get his way and the dog wouldn't get fixed if the dog's not here she can't take the
dog to the appointment I think that hurting you and like making you worried was an unfortunate byproduct of that I don't think he
was like trying to hurt you he was just doing anything to get his way which is but not even
thinking about his wife's feelings like that's so mean yeah no because his way and his feelings are
more important to him no this is like a really this is the biggest red flag I've ever seen in my life.
It's not even a flag.
It's a fucking.
Yeah, it just, and it just scares me to think about
like what this person would do with a child
if he's this controlling about a dog
and this is the length that he'll go to.
That's a really good point.
It's like when you think about like shared children,
he's going to be even more impassioned about a decision,
no matter, this isn't even like a huge decision.
Like imagine like a real decision with kids like that has real implications and you guys
disagree.
And it seems like he like this is such a weird hill to die on.
So I would also want to know like why he's dying on this hill.
You know, maybe there's a childhood trauma or something.
Right.
But barring that run immediately
things to do immediately is to put on an act concede get the dog back just so we know the
dog is back with you and safe and then you and the dog have to go somewhere like go to your mom's go
somewhere go to a friend's a hotel you like absolutely need to show him how seriously not
fucking okay this is like and how serious
you're taking it like I would even go so far as to like put him on a no contact for like a week yeah
and you need and in that week you need to think you need to think back and you need to and of
course write us an update and you need to update us I'm very disturbed by this it's really I think
there I've heard you know many stories of like people who break up
or they have partners who are, you know,
like borderline abusive and like manipulative,
like using the dog as collateral because, you know,
they know how much their wife or their girlfriend
loves the dog and like stealing the dog.
Dogs are often used as like pawns and chess pieces
in relationships and it's so fucked up.
And let's not forget, like it's your dog.
So in a legal sense sense like if we're
going to be legal the dog is yours yes yeah um I'm really sorry you're going through that that's
if I didn't know where Theo was for I mean she wrote in on Tuesday morning and this happened
Monday night so it's been now like 36 hours without your dog. I'm really sorry. Like I, I think you,
immediate plan,
get the dog back.
Then we'll figure it out.
And write in again,
because I would love to help you once you get the dog back.
Yes.
Keep us posted.
And I'm so sorry you're going through that,
but thank you for writing in.
I hope we were helpful.
And if anyone wants to write in again,
it's deartoastersatgmail.com.
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