The Toast - Acknowledge The Space You're In: Wednesday, November 23rd, 2022

Episode Date: November 23, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Toast, and happy Wednesday that feels like a Friday. So while it is Hump Day, and I will sing my Hump Day tune, it is the final day of the week for most of us because it's Thanksgiving. So it is Hump Day. Don't forget to hump someone you love. But also acknowledge the space that you're in. It is the last day of work before a blessed holiday. I love Thanksgiving. Hey, Jax. How you doing?
Starting point is 00:00:26 I'm doing great. It's such an exciting week. The Wednesday before Thanksgiving is really one of the peak days of the year. I feel like when you think about it, you realize how wonderful it is, but it doesn't get the hype that it deserves because everyone's focused on Thanksgiving, even like the Friday after Thanksgiving. But like the Wednesday before, it's all ahead of us. We have everything to look forward to. It's Thanksgiving Eve. And I'm really getting into the spirit this year and it's been really wonderful. I really want to kiss on the mouth the person who decided Thanksgiving would be on a Thursday. Would I have preferred perhaps a Wednesday? Yes. But the fact that it's not a Friday, it's not a Saturday, it's not a Sunday, it's Thursday, which means we get Thursday, Friday and Wednesday is like a half day. No one's really like giving Wednesday any energy.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Oh, I feel like when today is so full for me, I'm so busy between work stuff and prepping for the big meal ahead. But it's going to make tomorrow even more sweet, like knowing how much I put in today. And it's going to make the whole weekend like really great. I'm feeling really, really good about the season, guys. I'm feeling good about it too. It's really the most wonderful time of the year and I'm just excited for all of us. I'm thrilled.
Starting point is 00:01:32 I'm overjoyed. I'm feeling humbled, honestly. As you should be. Humble pie. And I know like the Thanksgiving is all about like, you know, the pilgrims and Columbus and I know we've canceled Columbus. But can I just say how grateful I am that like, we've not taken that energy to Thanksgiving. Like I know, I know the story, but like, I still want to celebrate not really even
Starting point is 00:01:55 for, you know, America, but for, for me. Well, I feel like it's become less about the history and more just about being thankful honestly acknowledging the space that you're in and being grateful and it's just a day of the year that we as a country just take time to say thanks for the things in our life of course it harks back to like being thankful for america but we're also just thankful for the things that are going on for us personally and you know speaking of jacks what are you thankful for and by the way this is like a message if your family does this where you go around the table start thinking of your answers now because you don't want to be a disappointment like your parents your grandparents like say something
Starting point is 00:02:33 meaningful so Jax what are you thankful for for sure but I also feel like it shouldn't be that hard you know like of course people really like people are like wait over this gravy some people hate the question like an and want to hope no one brings it up but like just look around like if you're at a gorgeous thanksgiving meal surrounded by loved ones like you have a lot to be thankful for so true so i'm thankful for everything every breath every family member that in my life like I'm just thankful I'm thankful for life L'chaim L'chaim I'm thankful for all of those as well I'm thankful for the toasters I'm thankful for Diet Coke I'm thankful for my sis Jax this wonderful business we've created that I'm living my dream I really am there's a lot to be thankful for there really is and I'm living my dream. I really am. There's a lot to be thankful for.
Starting point is 00:03:26 There really is. And I'm thankful for the Strice Brethren because even though they don't want to work, even though they don't want to work, they are the reason that we work so hard, you know, to give them all of the bully sticks and dental sticks and kibble that their hearts could ever want. So true. Jax, that's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Thank you. It's been a great year. It true. Jax, that's beautiful. Thank you. It's been a great year. It's been a great year for The Toast. And I'm just looking forward to really ending the year in a peaceful, even though the end of the year is like so chaotic for me because like we, the last episode of The Toast is December 16th.
Starting point is 00:03:57 That's when season five officially ends. And I have 1 million things to do before then, like before I can officially wrap up the year. But I have finally put together my holiday travel plans. It took a long time. I was supposed to go this place and then, but I finally ended up last week or this week actually finalizing it.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And I'm really excited about it. I'm excited for you too. You'll have to share all the deets with me offline. Yeah, well, me and Ben were supposed to be going to Paris, but then it was like so expensive so expensive and I'm like for what like I'm not even Catholic like I don't even celebrate Christmas like why do I have to be in Paris for Christmas and I'm like I have the luxury of like carrying big I have the luxury of designing my own life I have my own business and I don't have
Starting point is 00:04:41 any children like I can go to Paris whenever why am I going to go at the most expensive time of year it's a beautiful time to be in the city of lights I know I really and I've never been like I really want to go I was like but I'm so obsessed with you going to Paris Jackie couldn't believe she was like making fun of me like making me not want to go no not that yes exactly that no first when you told me that when we were just like talking about Christmas plans a few months ago and you told me that you and Ben were thinking of going to Paris I fell off my chair I fell off my chair because you're always a beach you'll always take a beach over a city let alone like you know a historic city that's a lot of you know sightseeing and I know that's not what you will do all the time, but like you could go anywhere in the world.
Starting point is 00:05:26 As you stated, you have the luxury of designing your own life. And like you chose to go to Paris. It was a shocking choice for me. But then I started to get so excited thinking about like all of the things that I needed you to do so that I could live vicariously through you. Like, of course, shopping, but also Versailles. There's so much great royal history there that I would have loved for you to see. And I got really, first I was shocked,
Starting point is 00:05:49 then I was in denial, then I was a little angry that I wasn't going. But then by the time I reached acceptance, I was really excited for you. And now you're not even going. You did kind of glaze over the mocking phase, but it's fine. I'm strong enough to live without you um she made fun of me
Starting point is 00:06:07 endlessly told everyone she knew that it was the funniest thing like what's so funny I didn't make fun of you I just like couldn't stop bringing it up she made fun I was just like to everyone like guess where Claudia is going you'll never guess right no like making fun you guys but it's fine I didn't go because I was literally mocked out of it oh my god stop I sat with you and I tried to be tried to watch certain documentaries about Napoleon to get you excited she came around she came around um but I'm not even going anymore so all of that for nothing I'm so disappointed let down but I feel like you'll go now that you have the Parisian itch I feel like you'll go soon. Also, it's worth saying, I've never been to Paris.
Starting point is 00:06:45 So it was just crazy that you were going to do something by yourself without me. No, you were hurting me because you were hurt. Hurt people hurt people. Yeah, I think I was hurt. I was obviously shocked. I was probably a little jealous too. You're going to Paris. You're always going to be the girl who didn't go to Paris
Starting point is 00:07:07 that's gonna be you it was just a lot and I feel like if the toasters who are listening like because they know you so well will understand why I was shook to the core no because like one thing about me is like I really don't like Europe like I don't like those types of vacations unless it's like the south of France or Positano, you know. Beach excluded. Beach exclusion. Like vacations that require like walking tours and history and sightseeing. Like that's not how I'm ever going to choose to spend my money and my time.
Starting point is 00:07:39 And the only person who hates that shit less than me, more than me, is Ben. So I really wanted to go somewhere I'd never been before. And it's like we've done every vacation we ever do is beach, Caribbean beach, beach, British Virgin Islands, U.S. Virgin Islands, Turks and Caicos. So we're like, let's do something different. We're trying to think of places we've never been before that aren't so far. I can't go over like eight hours on a plane unless I'm going to Israel. I have to connect with my spirituality. But other than that, like I'm never going to go to South Africa.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Like I'm never going to go anywhere. That's double digit flight hours. Even if Shannon's there? Even if Shannon's there. Even though, you know, the Asher family, we are descendants of South Africa. So I'm still never going to go. And when it came down to choosing a location, it was honestly like either London or Paris. I could never go to London without you.
Starting point is 00:08:22 So I was left with Paris. And I'm like, you know what? Like I could take some cute pics by the Eiff was left with Paris and I'm like you know what like I could take some cute pics by the Eiffel Tower eat french fries smoke cigarettes like Ben was the only reason Ben wanted to go was because he wanted to smoke cigarettes
Starting point is 00:08:32 for those french cigarettes for the french cigarettes like it seemed like the right choice but then when it came to time to booking stuff like my first and let's be real probably only trip to Paris like I'm doing it up
Starting point is 00:08:42 I want to stay at Mohamed Faid's Dodi and Mohamed Faid's hotel I want to stay at Mohammed Faid's, Dodi and Mohammed Faid's hotel. I want to stay at the Ritz. During the holiday, $20,000. Like that's not going to work for me. So I have decided now after, you know, a lot of hype, I'll tell everyone where I'm going. I'm going to Belize in South America.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I can't Belize it. I'm so excited. And I'm going with Brian, which, you know, I honestly have not traveled without Brian since I've met him. Honestly, when I think back to all the amazing trips I've taken, they're all with Brian. It's because Brian knows how to plan. He knows how to travel. He finds like these great destinations that aren't torturous.
Starting point is 00:09:18 It's a nonstop flight. He really, I've become extremely spoiled by being best friends with the points guy. And I tried to travel without him and I couldn't do it. So I'm going with Brian. Well, that's going to be so fun. I'm excited for our break at the end of the year. We do it every year. So if you're in a new toaster, the season ends.
Starting point is 00:09:37 We always take like the last two work weeks off of the year for our respective vacations. And I'm looking forward to a little R&R. Yeah, I am too. And I'm not leaving till, you know, the end of the month. So I'll have some nice time at home with Theo and a little adventure in South America. I've never even been to South America. I'm low key, like not well traveled, but I travel a lot. Although I did come to the conclusion when I was in Charlotte, I did uh we were on a long car ride and I was bored I tallied up all the states I've been to because of tour I was like curious if I have I been close to like 50 of them I've been to 36 and I think a goal of mine is
Starting point is 00:10:15 going to be going to all 50 that's so cool you should get a map where you put like you I actually I actually have a map um it was a gift from someone I no longer speak to, so I don't use it. But it's like a little pinpoint map to track my tour. It was actually a very thoughtful gift from a really deeply unwell person. I'm looking at a map to see where Belize is because it's not where I would have guessed. No, you're telling me Belize is not in Spain. I think of Belize as like Ibiza. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:10:47 I was thinking of Belize if I had to, like if I had to give a guess, I would have probably said somewhere in the Caribbean. It's not far from the Caribbean. It's South America. It's like by Chile
Starting point is 00:10:59 and Nicaragua. But it's not an island. I would have thought it was an island. It's not. So where we're staying is an island. Like you take a it was an island. It's not. So where we're staying is an island. Like you take a little plane
Starting point is 00:11:07 from Belize. What's the name of the island? I guess don't tell me. I'm not entirely sure, honestly. I guess don't tell me like exactly where you're staying on the show.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yeah, no, I definitely won't do that. Sorry. So I'm excited. I'm getting caught up in the geography. Do you know that Belize is home to the second
Starting point is 00:11:22 largest barrier reef in the world? What's the first largest? The Great Barrier Reef? The Great Barrier Reef, yes. The Great. So is this the good barrier reef? It's the decent barrier reef.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And will you be visiting this barrier reef? Of course. I'm going to scuba and, well, I don't scuba, snorkel. And I'm so excited. Like Brian's really gotten me out of my comfort zone when it comes to vacationing. Like prior to Brian, like I would go on a beach vacation and like not leave the hotel,
Starting point is 00:11:48 sit my ass on the beach. With Brian, it's like, let's go scuba diving. Let's take out a boat one day. Let's check out these like different caves. Like I'm really so adventurous. So adventurous. I need Brian to take you on a ski trip so that you get into skiing.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Does Brian ski? You know what's so funny? I don't think, Brian is like literally too tall to ski. I know. But he's so athletic. I'm sure he's just the type of person who's like skied a few times but like if somebody invited him to Aspen he would be like on the black diamond and he'd be fine yeah he'd be perfect that's Brian like he could try anything and like be perfect at it you know yeah okay I'm gonna have
Starting point is 00:12:17 to like send him a text to get you to take you on a ski trip and then I'll come and then we'll all ski one thing about me is like I cannot ski. The I don't know if it's the skis themselves or just the sheer fact that like my shins are required to hold up my entire body weight but like I'm physically incapable. I think you could do anything that you set your mind to. I don't think that's true. Speaking of which I have set my mind to something and I'm making such major strides in my goal and I'm feeling so hashtag proud. Driving.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Because I am learning how to drive. I had my first two hour driving lesson yesterday with the driving school. I'm practicing on my off days, but it was my first like full lesson in the car with the thing on the hood, you know, student driver, the whole car is branded. The driver has brakes and gas to the right.
Starting point is 00:13:07 And I was incredible yesterday I heard that the driver the teaching the teacher told you that you could pass today yeah it was so crazy because last week I drove with Zach just to the grocery store and I was I had never had Zach take me on a driving lesson before so I was so surprised at how like calm and patient he was. And like, he was really like, I guess he just decided he was going to be a good teacher. And he was like, just being so level-headed and like really patient with me. And, but still I, I, it's like jerky and the stops were jerky. And I, I didn't feel like I was a very good driver and it made me like dread driving and that I'll never actually enjoy it because even with like a good instructor like I
Starting point is 00:13:49 just wasn't enjoying it but then yesterday when I was with like a new instructor from the minute like we pulled out your girl was cruising your girl was so comfortable like the stop signs jerks what who and then I was starting to feel like it was the kind of car that I was driving all cars drive differently and like mastering the level of pressure you need to put on the brake in each car is so different and it's kind of psychotic yeah no so like this Mazda was made for me and I'm so excited for when I do get my license and I can get a car like now the Mazda's in the running I'm actually thinking about getting a compact car instead of a midsize SUV because I liked being more in control of my vehicle. I didn't see that for myself.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And we like we drove for two hours. I drove the entire time. We did all of the different like parkings, three point turn. I thought three point turn was going to be like the hardest part of driving. No, it's low key easy. It's pretty logical. It's math. It's right, left, right. math it's right left right yeah or left right left or depending on the turn maybe it is left right yeah it's left right
Starting point is 00:14:51 left you're right about that uh and I even drove on the highway Cher Horowitz the fucking freeway it was wild and I was so comfortable and it was really a turning point for me like in realizing that I'm going to get my license soon I'm going to be driving here there everywhere and I'm going to have freedom and I'm really excited and that's really like I'm sure there'll be other things that I want to do or accomplish in life but there have been like a few big things over the years that I've needed to tick off like cooking look at your girl look at your girl came through with blind colors and like driving for the last 15 years has been stuck at the top of this list and like once I accomplish
Starting point is 00:15:31 this like I'm gonna I'm just feeling so proud like no tackling accomplish it yeah tackling new skills as an adult is so fulfilling and that's how I felt at one point about skiing. Like teaching myself how to ski as an adult was a huge thing. And now I love skiing and I feel like it could happen for you. Well, by the way, that's why I was like so emo when I was talking about reading the other day.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Right. And I feel the same way about reading for me. Like something in my adult life that I just didn't see for myself. So now once I finish driving, like I'm gonna have to sit down with my Buckingham Palace planner and think about like, what are other things that I want to learn how to do in life? Well, a couple of years ago, I taught myself how to knit.
Starting point is 00:16:15 And I still remember it's like something you never forget. And it's one of my favorite. I don't do it enough, but it's one of my favorite things to do. Yeah. That's a good hobby. Yeah, it is a good hobby. I don't, I'm a little short on time for hobbies right now. So it needs to be something that's not just like. It has to be functional too. It has to be functional like cooking and feeding a family.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Right. Um, well, while you were feeding your family last night, I finally got to see that play I've been talking about for like a month um called Titanic the musical Titanic spelled t-i-t-a-n-i-q-u-e and oh my god it Jackie you would love so it's like a parody of the the film okay um with Jack and Rose and Kathy Bates and they like have all these characters who play like the Victor Garber character who play the Kathy Bates character but it's like nobody knows those people's names they only know Jack and Rose so Victor Garber's character's name was Victor Garber character who played the Kathy Bates character. But it's like nobody knows those people's names. They only know Jack and Rose. So Victor Garber's character's name was Victor Garber. It was so funny. It was like this very satirical retelling of Titanic with music.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And all the music was Celine Dion. And Celine Dion was like the host of the storytelling. And the woman who played Celine Dion, first of all, had an amazing voice and did the best Celine Dion accent. How are we? Thank thank you very much it was so good I was cackling you know I hate I hate plays like it's just not my thing but it was 90 minutes no intermission perfect length Broadway take notes and it was just it was hysterical and there parts, moments of it where I was like, damn, like this is, would be even funnier if Titanic wasn't like an actual tragedy that killed 2000 people. But I did feel like they remedied that.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Like, first of all, at the end, they had everyone saying my heart will go on, like in memory of the people who passed away. It was really sweet. And they do something in the, in, I don't want to spoil it, but like a part of the plot that they change, like actually it's like more dignified. It was just, it was amazing. I need to see it again because like I need to just like absorb it once again. It was so good.
Starting point is 00:18:13 That's awesome. It really was. I'm happy you had a nice night out. And then you went to Rebecca's engagement party. Yes. And then I headed off to Becky from the Redheads who got engaged last night. We had like a surprise party for her right after she got engaged um your presence was sorely missed but when I tell you I never saw a bitch so happy in my fucking life like she was screaming I've been
Starting point is 00:18:34 to a lot of engagement parties and honestly I don't think I've ever seen a girl so excited like so happy obviously she was happy to get engaged but I think she was so shook that like everyone from her life like friends from different you know from camp from college from home her family like from out of town everyone was in town and I think like she was just really overwhelmed and it was like it was such a happy night it was a true Simcha oh that's so beautiful um it really was I spoke to you guys last night but I'm gonna call Bex again today I'm so happy for her and we'll be celebrating on Redheads for sure we'll be we'll be celebrating also Redheads. For sure. We'll be celebrating.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Also, Redheads programming update. I'll share on our Instagram. But we're going to drop the episode a week later than usual for a few reasons. One, it will allow us to record together in person, which is always exciting. And two, as it is the last episode of the year, we do a whole roundup of all the books that we read this year. Our top three books that we each read personally. We all vote on the number one, two two and three redheads books of the year and so we want to have that
Starting point is 00:19:29 extra week to like read more books so that we can add it into our roundup so second thursday of december the redheads will be here um so that's all the catching up that i had to do we have a fab show we've got five stories but it's also Wednesday. And so we're going to finish off this week, you know, with a little, a little grace, we're going to help our toasters through whatever it is they're going through.
Starting point is 00:19:51 We have some unique dear toasters. I want to say our third and final one is unlike anything we've ever had. And it will tug at the heartstrings. That's what I'll say. Oh, okay. I'm excited to get into that. We have some interesting stories, too.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And I think it'll be great to carry us into the Thanksgiving week. Also, just need to plug one second. Did you see my pie last night? I did. Apple, dulce de leche, apple pie, magnolia table recipe. Can you believe it? I can't. Your girl cooked a pie.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Cross it off the list have you ever made a pie off the list no it's a lot of hard work the coal miners could never literally so without further ado where are the choice brethren oh they're cooking the turkey for thanksgiving thank you brethren it is time for the Fast Five Stories that you need to know before the glorious holiday weekend. Bing. And today's episode is brought to you by Shopify. Are you ready to be your own boss yet because your boss is a wench? Start, run, and grow your own successful business with Shopify, the all-in-one commerce platform.
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Starting point is 00:23:51 it's never too late to sign up for the patreon sign up now log on start shopping spritz society and you can thank us later thank you so much mclardia two great welcome two great toast approved tips from two great girls let's talk about that let's I wish someone would okay are you ready for our first story that's so fucking twisted it had to be the first story okay I am but can I talk about something
Starting point is 00:24:20 about myself really quickly for one last thing before we start talking about other people look at my microphone sure sure so yesterday we posted on our instagram um a little graphic of you know claudia's favorite stories things she's always repeating yes and a lot of people had good suggestions for things that we should add and i think a lot of people also got confused between this list and the list of my regrets they're very different this list is stories like I'm always telling acting like it's the first time you guys have ever heard them also there's a difference some people were writing like stories that are just like a story that you've told once
Starting point is 00:24:54 it's like a famous story yeah but okay yeah that's in like the but I've only said that once so that's not one of my favorite repetitive stories no there's a difference between like a famous Claudia story and a story it's like no one could say anything and Claudia finds a way to bring up this story that she loves talking about so a good example of that that we should add to the list is me being on a boat with Leonardo DiCaprio I talk about it all the time it was in my book um yes I just will say considering like the magnitude of that you actually don't talk about it like it's it not like, you know, Keenan's Uber drivers where it's like, no, like, okay, to hear it once is enough. No, I completely agree.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Okay. Also, I don't really talk about this that much anymore, but that other episode of SVU where the nanny was kept in the trundle. Maybe just SVU. Okay. Hold on, let me keep reading there was no you know what i have to be the one to to determine because i'm the one who listens to him oh the celebrity documentary conversation like i do always like drag sean mendez and praise lady gaga so fucking true so fucking true like
Starting point is 00:26:01 whenever we're talking about celebrity documentaries i talk about how like either you need one Lady Gaga or you don't need one Shawn Mendes and it's true oh my god it's so fucking true you're always talking about five foot two um I am always talking about five foot two also I didn't realize I spoke about this that much but I must because somebody was like when Claudius was in her first year of her communication course and half the class said they wanted to grow up and be Juliana Rancic you've it's like i've only said that like twice yeah yeah yeah i agree it's not there yet it's so true like jessica simpson being your birthday buddy i i just can't talk about jessica simpson without mentioning that we do have the same birthday because it's like literally part of my personality also people who commented cuba gooding jr like are you guys okay
Starting point is 00:26:42 i don't really talk about it that much no No, not even that. But like this whole, this list is like a joke. Like that's not a joke. No. And it's only funny when I say. No. And it's like, it's not annoying that you keep talking about the time that you were, uh, harassed by Cuba Gooding Jr. Sam Hunt's DUI. Okay. I do talk about that a lot. I feel like like though we're we're straying though from like i agree i don't dennis's funeral you know that's like yeah textbook the photo of megan and harry with the umbrella yes so iconic so literally movie star movie star i'm gonna have to go through this list and edit because okay we're getting far away I trust you but thank you to everyone for their um suggestions and recommendations yeah like someone suggested Bonneville and it's like no
Starting point is 00:27:29 that's just a famous Claudia story you told it once yeah same with Paul Rudd but he did teach me gymnastics I literally I'll take that to the grave I have to meet Paul Rudd I have to ask him if he ever worked at five-star gymnastics in Long Island. Yeah. Slumdog millionaire. Sweeping the Oscars. That's the perfect example. Yeah. But they did. They swept the Oscars that year.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Oh, here's a great one. The tax story. About how you like your first year of being an influencer taxes. Do I tell that story a lot? A couple. And I think it was in your book, too. It was in my book. All the more reason to go purchase it.nojob.com book yes uh there was one other thing that I just wanted to say and then we can move on oh the voice class you took in college
Starting point is 00:28:18 what do I say about that I don't know but that's not Dennis's funeral someone said I did take voice lessons in college here's a story you don't talk about enough the's not Dennis's funeral. Someone said. No, but I did take voice lessons in college. Here's a story you don't talk about enough. The time you flush the car keys down for the rental car in the highway bathroom. That's what we don't talk about enough. Yeah. Because she wants us to forget and some of us can't. Because I want to forgive you and I want to forget you
Starting point is 00:28:45 that's the crazy that was a tough day for me that was a really really tough day for me and by the way it's not just like the rental car keys it's the jaguar car rental car that we rented to treat ourselves for a really fun weekend I am waiting for the day because we just like left that rental car in some parking lot and I believe it's still there. Budget rental car was like, yeah, we'll come pick it up. I believe that somebody like one of these days, I'm going to open up my credit card bill and there's going to be like a $250,000 charge from budget for like the car that we never returned.
Starting point is 00:29:17 No, you're going to go to buy a house and you can't get a loan because you have horrible credit. God forbid. God forbid. Knock wood. Actually, you check your credit score, though. Yeah, of course. Yeah, and Chase always lets you know
Starting point is 00:29:27 when, like, it's fucking up. When it drops. Yeah. Yeah. No, nothing has happened yet, and I like to think that they retrieved the car, but there's truly no way of knowing. Unless we were to go.
Starting point is 00:29:40 It's probably still sitting in that Connecticut rest stop because there's no key. You can't even steal it. Damn. No, you could steal without a key. Yeah, that rest stop. Because there's no key. You can't even steal it. Damn. No, you could steal without a key. Yeah, that's true. And we left it open. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:51 We did leave it open because we didn't have any key to lock it. Oh, so the key is like in the sewage system. So it's probably still connected. It's in the ocean now. That's true. Not me polluting. OK, now let's get into our first story that is so twisted that it had to be the first story Balenciaga apologizes for a bondage themed campaign featuring a child and an excerpt from a SCOTUS ruling on child pornography so
Starting point is 00:30:19 Balenciaga has had to apologize in the last one day for two instances of sexual misconduct relating to minors. First, they have a campaign that has kids posing for kids clothes and holding bears that are wearing BDSM style harnesses, which elicited outrage from people who saw these images. And then some eagle-eyed viewers saw that one of their photos that they posted is one of their bags on a pile of documents on a desk. And the documents are actually the ruling from a Supreme Court ruling that relate to child pornography and actually upheld part of a part federal child pornography law so Balenciaga issued a statement and they appear to be laying blame at the photographer and are vowing to sue the photographer but their statement said we apologize for displaying unsettling documents in our campaign we take this matter very seriously and we are
Starting point is 00:31:21 taking legal action against the parties responsible for creating the set and including unapproved items for our spring 23 campaign photo shoot we strongly condemn abusive children in any form we stand for children's safety and well-being i just feel like if you get into a place where you have to um say we strongly condemn abusive children in any form as if it was up for debate um you got a problem. No, here's what's, like, I saw at first, like, the pictures of the kids. I'm like, that's just, like, really bad judgment. I think, like, while it's inexcusable, I could see how, like, people would, like, not think of it. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:59 I could see how maybe it slipped through the cracks. But then that paper with the SCOTUS thing i'm like this is layered this is like a conspiracy like maybe signaling to all i don't know it's fucking weird no like there is at least one child abuser who is working at palenciaga or on this campaign like working through the photographer whatever like yeah root him out or her no it's very very disturbing this is like not it's giving him obviously but also this is when they had to apologize for the for the bears thing that was a separate um instagram story and they said our plush bears shouldn't our plush bear bag should not have been featured with children in this campaign. But it's like, who are the bears for if not children?
Starting point is 00:32:46 So who are you making a BDSM bear for? If you're making it for adults who are then still pedophiles who are into bears. No, fuzzies is what they call themselves. Furries, furries. Furries. If you're into stuffed animals, that's a thing. But I didn't know that Balenciaga was like making swag for the furries community.
Starting point is 00:33:06 It's a pretty niche audience. No, it's definitely a different strategy. Something we've never seen before. It's tough. That's a competitive market that luxury stores. But the thing is, it's like not okay. It's not normal. I don't know what the fuck these people are thinking.
Starting point is 00:33:24 And every now and then you know like a brand will get backlash um and sometimes I feel as though you know people are being dramatic or like looking into it or like you could really see a world where a bunch of idiots didn't realize didn't realize this is so like not to sound like a conspiracy fucking twisted twisted and calculated it seems so intentional and subtle I'm like they didn't think anyone would zoom in and read the copy of the papers in the background of this product shot I'm so turned off by this brand I think it's it's it's just not okay I can't think of any other words. I'm sorry. Yeah. I think there's two different conversations to be had. I think the documents thing is so twisted. That doesn't
Starting point is 00:34:09 happen by accident. Like no, whether it's someone who is like researching child pornography laws, and then those were the documents in the office that they put on the desk maybe, or like it's some intentional person like signaling, like, hey subliminal messaging hey look at me like that's so fucking twisted and I feel like one child pornography and like child abuse and pedophilia is so rampant in like the world and it's so crazy to me we talk about like I can't even wrap my head around how all the sex trafficking, millions of people a year don't even know about it. And then you see shit like this and it's like,
Starting point is 00:34:48 it's even more prevalent than you could possibly know. And then there's the other thing where it's, yes, as you said, like a judgment error. But if your judgment error is BDSM and children
Starting point is 00:35:00 and mixing the two, you need help. You are sick. I feel like kids are just they just the line just keeps moving and of course this this crosses the line for everyone but the fact that anybody thought that these two thought it was okay themes could collaborate for a shoot like we're a sick people no it's well not me it's very it's very disturbing and not you if you're a toaster but you hundred world at large no it's it's very disturbing and i think we must protect the kids we got to protect the kids nobody's protecting the kids um actually
Starting point is 00:35:40 the kids are i feel like less protected than ever the people are using like kids to protect adults Actually, the kids are, I feel like, less protected than ever. People are using kids to protect adults. Yeah. Protect the children in all ways, shapes, and forms. Let kids be kids. And if you have to ask BDSM and children, they don't jive. No, they do not.
Starting point is 00:36:03 So I'm actually, not that I'm, I don't think I'm a Blenciaga girly. I actually think their shit's pretty ugly. I don't think I own anything. If I was ever tempted, though, like, I'm actually not that I'm I don't think I'm a Blenciaga girly. I actually think their shit's pretty ugly. I don't think I own anything. If I was ever tempted, though, like I'm out. Like you guys need to do a full investigation into the rampant pedophilia in your company. Agreed. Because if it's making it into like the consumer facing advertising, it runs deep. Yeah, that's true. So figure your shit out.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Mm-hmm. Are you ready for our next story? Yes. Positive, wonderful news. Cheer star Gabby Butler signs with the WWE. That's a mouthful. The WWE. She said, I never thought cheerleading would take me this route.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Cheer star Gabby Butler is ready to take athleticism to a new sport the longtime gymnast has officially signed a contract with WWE she exclusively shares with People Magazine Gabby says she fell in love with wrestling this summer after attending SummerSlam in Nashville she said I was blown away by what they put on she admitted that she never considered the sport. She was focusing on cheer. She said, I was so involved in cheerleading, in the cheerleading industry for so long, and I never really looked into anything other than cheerleading. But when I went to SummerSlam, it really just opened my eyes to the athleticism and the dedication the athletes bring into the ring. She says she admired the way they performed and the competitive atmosphere, which isn't so different
Starting point is 00:37:20 from her experience in cheerleading. It was almost like I was watching a cheerleading competition, but wrestling edition. You know, one of the huge takeaways I had from Cheer, the documentary, was like how much of a shame it is that there's not really a life for a professional adult cheerleader. It's a sport that ends at the college level. And it's like, what do you do after all that training? You're 21. You've given your whole life to this sport. And you have to go and get a job like in a restaurant or in marketing like it's like it's not what you had been training for and I never really thought about this as an option and I have to say I think this makes a shit ton of sense and I actually think this is an amazing next step for Gabby Butler amazing next step it makes so much sense I can't believe it's not been thought of
Starting point is 00:38:02 before or maybe there have been like professional cheerleaders who go into WWE but they weren't famous before from cheer because there was no big documentary about them so we don't know but I think that this is so awesome I think this is great for Gabby's career because she can continue doing what she's doing and in the spotlight and I think it's great for WWE because I think it will bring a new audience she has such a huge audience a young audience and I think that on all fronts, like what would, this has the girl boss town stamp of approval. GBT stamp of approval, yeah. But also the WWE has been just kind of killing it recently
Starting point is 00:38:38 in their castings. Like they cast Logan Paul. And I think that was amazing for them because Logan Paul has become, you know, somewhat of like a figure in the wrestling space. And he has such a huge, young international audience. And I think Gabby Butler is just like another A plus casting for them.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I think this is great. Yeah. And she will definitely have the chops. I think there's a little more she'll have to learn, like especially about the like perform, like the- The staging. The theatrics. But I think she will be very successful did you check your dms this morning did you see
Starting point is 00:39:11 that um there's a big toaster in uh wwe diva community she dm'd us this morning be right back why don't you show it to me like you're in the chat and so I figured and I responded so I thought you would see it she was like loving the toast and she's a really big WWE diva so um shout out and that was exciting to see this morning it's just a WWE sort of day you know when that happens for sure I don't see a single thing in my DMs but I'll look into it deeper later okay it's cool stuff maybe it's just you um you're there this is great I know how Instagram DMs work okay I didn't see it you're blind I'm sorry I love Gabby Butler and I feel like she has you know done everything she can do until a certain age like she transferred to multiple colleges she did like these summer programs She keeps doing what she can to like get on squads. Gabby Butler is like the most educated
Starting point is 00:40:09 woman in America because she keeps going to college. A junior college, a senior college, a four-year program, a two-year program, a summer program. She keeps joining different programs to get on different squads because there's really nowhere to go after college. So she is just taking her time getting her degree. And I love it. I really do. Yeah, she's getting her degree on her own time. Do you think she'll cheer for Education Connection next year? That's what Education Connection needs.
Starting point is 00:40:35 They need a commercial with Gabby Butler. GBT, stamp of approval. So yeah, some news that makes sense today. You love to see it. Some athletic news. Are you ready for our next story? If it's the next story, that's brought to you by Beekeepers Naturals. Yes.
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Starting point is 00:42:58 It's wild out there. It's wild out there. Our next story, Julia Fox says she dated Kanye to get him off of Kim's case. Did you see Julia's TikTok? So it's been real. I was thinking about it this morning, actually, because this is just the nature of the Internet. Julia Fox became really popular on TikTok like two months ago when people were like saying and commenting, you know, Julia Fox is really not what we thought she is. She's an intellect. She's a woman who supports other women. Like they were gassing her up, you know, like living for it.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And, you know, what the internet giveth, the internet must taketh away. So then it was like the narrative started to change. It's like, well, how great can Julia be if she dated Kanye? He's a misogynist. So it's like now her fault, everything Kanye has done. And so she is being like super transparent responding to comments being like this is what I think about this and this is my response to this not doing any like formal statements or anything she was like I was gonna put this all in my book
Starting point is 00:43:52 but you know what like let's just get into it now yeah so she really got into it I was surprised at like how I never heard her talk so into one long stretch like that even though and it just felt like she was being really honest and like talking about like the a thing that everybody wants to know about which was like that one month because even though we watched that interview of her on call her daddy I feel like we didn't get um no I feel like the interview on call her daddy was actually like a really poor representation of who she actually is especially because the only thing people took away from that was Anca Jam right no no actually she's extremely well read and really smart it was like her life story but at the time she was dating Kanye they broke up like two days later and so she
Starting point is 00:44:30 wasn't really talking about dating Kanye like and what that was like so I it was uh it felt to me like the first full picture that we saw of it so she talked about like how they got together she said I remember he was texting me and I wasn't really answering and I didn't want to talk to a celebrity again because nothing ever comes of it it's boring and they're not what you think they're going to be like so true she noted that she realized Kanye wasn't giving up and that's when she realized that she may be doing his ex-wife a favor by answering she said then I had this thought I was like oh my god maybe I can get him off Kim's case and get him to like me and if I knew anyone could do it it would be me because when I set to my mind to something I do it and she talks about when how when he was with her like he was really normal
Starting point is 00:45:09 and he wasn't bothering Kim and he wasn't tweeting and he wasn't on social media and then when he did do all of those things she was out so let me just say I don't believe that that like I don't believe Julia Fox's impetus and only impetus for dating Kanye was to be a friend to Kim like I just well she talks also in the video how like she's always admired the Kardashians they bought her clothing line for their store by the way 10 years ago yeah and we know that we know that um because like when she popped off then people started finding like anytime she's ever said anything about the Kardashians and she's a huge fan because she's obviously a woman of taste I feel like when factoring her decision
Starting point is 00:45:47 to date Kanye maybe it couldn't maybe it was five percent let's help Kim maybe it was maybe it was one percent yeah 20 percent Birkin no but also like look what became you know maybe nobody knew Julia Fox before the opportunities this could provide she's the it girl of fashion she goes to every fashion show she walks in fashion shows she's literally in magazine spreads her podcast is huge now she's huge on TikTok like that's what happens when you date Kanye not to like strip her down to that her is her only accomplishment she's obviously very accomplished but the only reason I know who she is and the only reason why millions of people know who she is
Starting point is 00:46:26 is because of Kanye. And that's fine. You would do it too for a check. Like, I understand. Like, I would do it. Yeah, I think. So let's not. She knew that.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Let's not pretend. It's a platform. But also, I think there's also something about her that people have grabbed, like people are obsessed with or the industry is obsessed with. Because Kanye has been spotted with other women. Yes, of girls over um you know the course of the last few years since they were divorced and even before he even met Kim and like what Julia where she is is kind of unprecedented yeah no I completely agree I think like once we all got to
Starting point is 00:47:00 know her I was ready to write her off like once Kanye I was like all right this is the end of the Julia Fox chapter but she kept popping up and everything I was seeing I was like she's kind of wacky she's really smart she's got charisma there's something there there's a star quality there which is why like you know people on TikTok are obsessed with her um but we'd be remiss if we didn't at least acknowledge that that's all because of Kanye yeah like where we met her but I think that happens to other people all the time they have like a moment and then they make the most of it and they're here to stay, you know, like because they have that star quality. That's like that reminds me of Emrata in the music video.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yeah. You know, you forget that that's where you saw her first. And so many other girls are in famous music videos and they're just like that. But now you actually forget that's where you first met her. And because she does. Mason Ramsey. She has so many other things. No, Mason Ramsey will always be like the boy yodeling in Walmart.
Starting point is 00:47:49 I know. Not to me, though. To me, he's just like a really talented, young, sweet kid. Who yodeled in Walmart. Right. But I do often forget. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:59 I don't think of him as the Walmart yodeling kid. Mostly because he's grown up so much. He actually looks so different. I think of him as like the viral. Yeah. No, the Walmart yodeling kid. because he's grown up so much he actually looks so different I think of him as like the viral yeah no the Walmart yodeling kid but like he it does so much more still but I don't think you could ever separate him from that and I don't think that you should ever separate him from that but I think for like Julia and Emrata like those were like launching pads they and but they stuck around it's what they've made of it yeah. And I think there's a lot of people who have gone viral, especially for singing. And a lot of them don't have the chokehold that Mason Ramsey has on our culture.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Yes. Yeah. That was the point I was trying to make. Got it. OK, I understand. It's a separate but different point. But I understand the point. No, I think it's the same point.
Starting point is 00:48:40 No. That's not the initial point. Like now you're gaslighting me because you were no the point we were saying was like people who get a platform everyone gets a platform but like in order to stick around you got to have something right and that's literally right mason ramsay what i was saying was you actually forget what that initial small thing was that they did because they've done so much more since and you said that's what you were saying you said like mason ramsay and then you said like mason ramsay so like mason ramsay yeah but we can't forget i can forget i don't even think about walmart
Starting point is 00:49:12 but maybe that's because i'm such a mason fan i don't think anyone's a bigger mason fan do you still think of him as a walmart yodeling kid like i think of him as like old town road i think of him as like you know teenage heartthrob i think of him as like the viral internet yodel country singer who's done amazing things and it still has his sanity i'm on my way i don't want to take for granted this ground on which i'm standing gorgeous his music is so good that. That one song is fucking fire. It's very beautiful. On my way up the mountain, I want to look around
Starting point is 00:49:52 and take in every sunset before it fades. He's got to get the little yodel in there. If you like country music, listen to On My Way by Mason Ramsey. You're going to be really surprised with what you hear. It's actually a perfect Thanksgiving song. It it's all about slowing down looking around taking in what's happened to you being grateful for all that you
Starting point is 00:50:12 have it's really beautiful it's about acknowledging the space you're in quite literally are you ready for our next story it's another space you could be in taylor swift's Cornelia Street rental townhouse hits the market at $45,000 a month after the home served as inspiration for the track about her early days of her romance with Joe Alwyn. So Taylor's iconic Cornelia Street townhouse has hit the rental market in London for an eye-watering $45,000. Not London. I'm'm sorry the West Village. You know what all this time I thought it was in London and then I saw it was located in the West Village and I thought that was London too. Oh my god you've been out of New York for a month are you okay? Because you know how all like New York neighborhoods are they have Soho, Chelsea there's also in London. Oh that's true I never
Starting point is 00:50:59 thought about that. And I also just assumed like it was Jo she had a house in London on Cornelia Street. I literally in this moment just learned that Cornelia Street is about Manhattan and not London. No, but there's that line in the in the bridge about being in the tunnel and turning around. She was literally in like the Hudson. I mean, the Lincoln Tunnel and like went back, you know. Are there not tunnels in London? What about the tube? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:24 But like we call in New York, it's like the tunnel, you know? But like they might have a tunnel. Well, one, I don't know the music. But they don't call it the tunnel. I don't know the lyrics as intimately as you do. But that wouldn't I wouldn't hear the tunnel and be like, was this set in New York? Like I just to me, it just was set in London. It's like the album of London boy.
Starting point is 00:51:41 And it's just a London album. Well, it's not. With London tings. I'm shocked. Claude, go rent this townhouse in the West Village. I know. The thing is, is like, I've seen pictures of the inside. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:51:54 There's like a pool, which is unheard of. Yeah, there's a pool. The outside is literally one of the fugliest things I've ever seen in my life. It's like this purple looks like a carriage house. I do believe it is like a former carriage house from like, you know, gilded times. From the next door neighbor. Right. That was converted into an actual home and it's beautiful on former carriage house from like, you know, gilded times. From the next door neighbor. Right. That was converted into an actual home and it's beautiful on the inside, but like it's genuinely one of the ugliest houses I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:52:10 That's so funny because when I was reading the article earlier, it said that she was living here while her Tribeca apartment was being renovated. And I just thought to myself, she had to go to London because her apartment was renovated. But I was like, maybe it was an excuse to take a trip. That's so funny. No, it takes place in New York. This whole story just changed for me, but I kind of liked it better when it was in London no well it's never been in London for me so I'm fine but now think about it because I thought
Starting point is 00:52:33 then you could rent this house in London like you don't need to rent a house in New York you have a house in New York you could go to London for a month rent it see what's going on what's so crazy is like when lover and this is just a true testament to like the economic times because when lover first came out like everyone like found the house I remember seeing it was like twenty two thousand dollars a month and then like inflation and like you know the economy and the rental market in New York like all these factors it's doubled now it's fucking crazy I know wow you should go take a tour as a prospective renter. Totally.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Don't look for Patreon. And I can give you one week of rent. No, not even that. Just act like you're a big wig. Yeah. And then be like, honestly, it's not nice enough for me. Who needs a swimming pool? And leave.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Yeah, like, oh, this pool's kind of gross. Yikes. Yikes. You think they've drained the water or Taylor's like. I think there's Taylor juice in there. Yeah, I think there's Taylor juice too. Why would they? It's also indoor.
Starting point is 00:53:30 It's like harder to do all of that. And you don't drain your pool that. You don't drain it between renters. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Yes, ma'am. It's just a little Thanksgiving hack for all of the hosts and guests out there and it's from TikTok's grandma Babs Barbara Crisello love her has a brilliant hack for taking Thanksgiving leftovers to go have you seen this I saw it and I feel like everyone needs to know the social the 74 year
Starting point is 00:53:59 old social media influencer the grand fluencer recently shared a life- She's so cute. Olivia is obsessed with her. She's really obsessed with her. She has amazing hacks, and this one's actually life-changing for giving guests leftovers on the big day. Use disposable cupcake tins. So you set up a leftover station when everyone's done eating and have your guests help themselves using, like, muffin tins that are disposable.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Like tinfoil material. Tinfoil material. They could take a helping of everything. And then the next day they put the whole thing into the oven. They get hot, delicious, no dishes. And you don't have to give away all of your Tupperware. That's the thing. It's like, for me, I am either living in a time of Tupperware abundance
Starting point is 00:54:42 or Tupperware depletion. There is no in between. It's just like how many people have I had over and how many other people's homes have I been to in the last couple of months? And that'll dictate my supply. Yeah, I'm actually low because I was cooking so much and I was bringing over like cookies for Kayla all the time. And I have new Tupperware arriving today in preparation for Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:55:01 because I know that everyone's going to want leftovers. But silly old me should have just gotten these muffin tins which I will do actually that's very smart and very um classic Babs like just making our life easier if you don't follow Babs like she's a great follow she has amazing recipes and also hacks and she's just precious amazing hacks especially for hosting Thanksgiving like for large quantities of like peeling washing etc like yeah her i am already going to implement some of her so i just thought i would leave everyone on that note make sure to bring your own if you're a guest or a host bring your own muffin tin yeah but also i do feel like sometimes people like shove you out the door with leftovers and it's like it wasn't even that good the first time no
Starting point is 00:55:42 thank you like how do you politely say no to leftovers oh of course well you could say like that you are on a diet and like you'd splurge tonight but like you can't you can't be taking this home that's a good one um or yeah I would just go with that honestly yeah that's a really good one or take it and like me and Ben sometimes like if we'll take Ben's has this thing where like if he like doesn't like his meal at a restaurant and like doesn't send it back, he'll just take it to go. Be like, I'm so full, but it was so good. I'll take it home. And it's like a full ass meal. And then if there's someone like living on the street or something like you'll just give it to them.
Starting point is 00:56:17 It's like totally full. Yeah, that's really nice. You could do that, too, with leftovers. Yeah, totally. So thank you, Jackie, for, for you know ringing in the holiday weekend with with a nice little hack yet welcome also if you want more hackio wonderful Thanksgiving content Claudia and I are recording today our annual Thanksgiving dinner table patreon episode this is the fast five stories that you need to know to navigate the conversation at your
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Starting point is 00:56:56 to also be able to hold a conversation at the Thanksgiving dinner table. And know what the fuck everyone's talking about. Yeah, exactly. But before that, before we record that it is time for dear toasters our weekly advice segment where you guys write in and we do our best to help the girlies out we pick three every week so if yours hasn't been chosen yet um stay tuned and if you have something you want to write in about it's dear toasters at gmail.com and dear toasters is brought to you by away away is a travel company that believes that the more we travel the
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Starting point is 01:00:07 And here we go. And away we go. Hey, Jackson Claude. I have some office drama that I need your help with. We had our first in-person company happy hour since before COVID. And needless to say, people got very drunk. I decided to leave before things got too crazy. But the next day, I had several different sources tell me that my good work friend who just got married was seen by her employees and her co-workers
Starting point is 01:00:29 making out with another guy at the back of this hotel and it even they even disappeared together for a long time before I found this out I even talked to this friend the morning after and she mentioned none of this happening I'm sure if she even remembers do I'm not sure if she even remembers doing this do I tell my friend that people around the office are saying this about her behind her back or do I just let it be and keep pretending that I don't know? XO, a confused coworker. Two questions.
Starting point is 01:00:51 One, like how good of friends are you guys? And two, how many people know that you know? Could you get away with pretending like you don't know and making it not your problem considering like this is your workplace and you don't need to be getting involved in people's personal affairs? Right.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I would avoid any sort of like inter-work gossip and drama at all costs like I just think deny yeah I honestly wouldn't tell her maybe she doesn't remember maybe she does remember doesn't like this is a her problem maybe the less people like maybe she can hopefully convince herself that no one knows and if you're the only one to tell her then like it just gets really awkward you're bursting the bubble considering these are your work friends um I would just keep it professional. You know, it's a very rare occurrence when you make a work friend that is a real friend for life.
Starting point is 01:01:31 A lifelong. For the most part, like this is work. This is not personal. Like we're here to work and these people are not your friends. So act accordingly. No, I completely agree. And let this just, let this be a lesson to everyone like never have more than two drinks at a work happy hour like nothing good is gonna come of it
Starting point is 01:01:51 especially as we head into holiday season especially we head into corporate holiday parties you guys if you want to avoid having to write into unverting yourselves and dear toasters do not have more than two drinks at the work holiday party and do not be the last one there leave at appropriate time last one there and go out with your real friends right no make plans for after so you get a little buzz at the holiday party and then you get to go out with like your real friends it's a stop along the way it's not the destination uh that's such if you take any advice from us ever please let it be Do not get drunk at work events. You will, nothing good comes from it.
Starting point is 01:02:28 And this is your job and you need your job and you don't want to jeopardize it. You don't want to feel awkward at the place that you're working. Like separation of church and state. You have to work alongside these people. Totally. Totally. That's all I'll say.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Now it's up to you. And that's also like, this isn't your best friend. So you don't feel this like obligation to help her through this like it's her fucking problem you know what she made her bed let her lay in it and you're I think you're off I would stay out of your problem stay out of it dear Jackson Claude this is a crazy story right seven of my friends had planned to go to the Taylor concert together but you can only buy a maximum of six tickets we had planned to buy a set of four seats and then three seats together. Obviously, it turned out to be harder
Starting point is 01:03:07 than we thought to get through the queue. So the one person who actually got through just bought six together. There were four out of the seven of us who actually sat in the queue, opened Capital One cards, did whatever we could to get pre-sale, et cetera. It was determined that we would draw names out of a hat
Starting point is 01:03:22 to determine who gets a ticket. But am I crazy for thinking that the four of us whose asses sat in the queue for hours, that we should get tickets immediately? I suggested this and it was like I had four heads. We ended up just drawing names and the girlie who put her literal heart and soul into trying to get tickets was the odd man out. So I have given my spot to her, but secretly I'm devastated that the girls who did nothing didn't volunteer.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Must be nice to do literally nothing and get to see Taylor. Am I psycho for being low-key like so mad? Sincerely, a loyal toaster just trying to see Taylor. Girl, you are so fucking justified. And the fact that the friend group didn't immediately draw three names instead of all seven is so unethical. What? Two names they would need to draw.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Well, yeah, put three in a hat instead of putting all seven in a hat. It's so unethical what two names they would need to draw well yeah put three in a hat instead of putting all seven in a hat is so unethical it's unfair and i demand a recount i send this episode to them that's so wrong on so many levels the girls who worked hard and did in the queue and did all that shit it opened up their credit like sorry they go and the three of you lazy fucks two of you get i also imagine that the four who tried the hardest are the biggest fan so they want to go the most and let me ask you something is the person who actually bought the tickets did they immediately get to go or right they have credit card too that is so crazy and foolish and by the way like this isn't binding in any way shape or form like it should be redone and why won't the four girls you guys are the
Starting point is 01:04:45 majority the girls who waited for together why won't you guys band together no and the girl the the four girls who who banded together if they band together they have the one girl who actually physically has the tickets possession is nine-tenths of the law they have all the power I would say redo just be like you guys this isn't sitting right with me Jenny should be able to go she sat on line all day like no offense you know Susan Larry and Tracy Tracy Tracy Tracy like you guys didn't do you put in the work and you guys should feel weird about the fact that you're gonna take a ticket from someone who really wants to go. Honestly, I'm not going if this is the way that we're going. I don't want this to become the friend group. But like it's wrong.
Starting point is 01:05:31 It's so wrong. It's so unethical. Like that's the perfect word. It goes against all that is right. And I'm mad on your behalf. You are so valid in your feelings. I wouldn't want to go with these girls. And you should do something about it.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I would say I'm not going. The girl who has the tickets should sell them all and everyone can go like fend for themselves. Yeah, she should make a buck. No, the girl, the girl should sell three of them. She'd double her profits. But the girl isn't even on her side, it seems, because when she suggested it, like everyone thought she was crazy. Send this to the girls, the four.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Send this to the four. Like you need to the four like you need to band together those other three are lazy yeah that's that that's that there's there's no moral ambiguity here no no what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong and this is clearly wrong but look at taylor like go putting these friends through the paces. Dividing women. She would hate to know. So our third and final Dear Toasters is, like, a little long. It's longer than we would normally do, but it's so interesting. And it involves, you know, a strice, bro.
Starting point is 01:06:37 So we have to help. Okay, third and final Dear Toasters. Let's get into it. Hello, Jackson Claude. I always wanted to have something to write in about, and I fucked around, and I found out. I'm desperate. Let's get into it. dog and he said I'd have to take full responsibility of the puppy if we got one, meaning meals, walks, training, etc. Fast forward a year and of course now he's in love with the dog, let's call him Theo, and he's been helping out here and there. Since I got Theo, I had planned to get him fixed as soon as he turned one. My husband is now feeling really strongly about not fixing him. We've been talking about it for months in the hopes of convincing him, making lists of pros and cons, etc. Still, neither of us are willing to budge. I went ahead
Starting point is 01:07:25 and made an appointment for Theo to get fixed today. And last night, my husband said he was going to take him on a walk and came back without him. Says he won't let me mutilate Theo and would rather give him away than let me go through with it. He won't tell me where Theo is and I'm heartbroken. So much so that I packed a bag and left our apartment for the night to stay at a hotel. What do I do? I'm sure Theo is fine and that I'll see him again, but this is a crossing a line, right? Divorce is not going through my mind, but a simple fight and giving up sounds wrong too. As much as he is helping out, Theo was always my dog and I feel so powerless now. What should I do? I don't even know what options should be on the table, like a police report, divorce,
Starting point is 01:08:03 folding and not fixing Theo? Am I being overly dramatic? Thank you, girls. From a toaster who was at a loss for words, P.S. This is not like my husband. He's not psycho generally and is usually pretty rational. This is some psychotic motherfucking behavior. I've never heard of anything like this.
Starting point is 01:08:24 For me, like, this shows a really bad side of your husband. Like this is so manipulative and so childish. And where is the dog? Yeah, this is really, really weird. I have a few questions, but like the first thing that comes to mind is like, I'm assuming they don't have kids yet, but someone who would do this, like with a dog,
Starting point is 01:08:38 like it just makes you worried about having kids with them. Because what if you want to do something for your child one day and your husband disagrees? And so he's going to take your child away from you. Take the child. Until you come around to his way of thinking. He's treating you like a child. My only question is like if you're saying this is so out of character and like this is so shocking and you don't really want to weigh divorce and if you do want kids but now you can't have kids with him if this is something that he thinks is a normal thing to do then you would probably have to get divorced my question is like what is his reasoning against fixing him it seems like he has this like a really really strong moral like what is it it's just
Starting point is 01:09:15 because like that's not what he wants for him or like there's some like deeper this is like a hill that he needs to die on this is his cause Maybe he's like an activist against like fixing dogs, like mutilation. No. Yeah. Because the thing is like at the core of this argument, like you're right. Like dogs really should be fixed.
Starting point is 01:09:31 There's like a number of health benefits. And what are you going to start breeding dogs in your garage? Like dogs are already like an overbred species. Like that's why we fix them. That's why they get spayed and neutered. So I agree with you on the mutilation, if you will. So not only is he wrong there he's doubling down and doing something that is so like yeah no it's like honestly argument to fix him or not fix him like I don't really I mean I don't I don't think
Starting point is 01:09:57 there's like a right or wrong it's a personal preference but the idea that like because he didn't get his way this is how he responds is extremely insane and I think that it's a much bigger issue than just like he hid the dog for a night and where and also like you guys have a lot of friends and family in town is that where he is yeah is he where the fuck is he like I need to know he did. So I feel like in terms of a plan, you need to concede on the fixing just to get the dog back. If that's like, we have to get the dog first. So be like, all right, you know what?
Starting point is 01:10:37 I'm so miserable. I won't do it. Get the dog back in your house. Take the fucking dog, pack a bag and get out um and then we'll come up with a plan like you need to ensure that the dog is returned safely that's number one priority here because if like this man knows how much the dog means to you and is like punishing you by withholding it that's like low-key evil and I know you're not considering divorce but like this is really like a like a psychotic thing to do and really like indicative of a very manipulative side of him.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Yeah, this is a really psychotic thing to do. I think you need to get the dog back. So cancel the appointment. Again, like whether you guys wind up fixing him or not fixing him is irrelevant. Even if he was able to like convince you using his words, like it's not even about whether or not we're fixing the dog. Oh, I love how he's making this decision
Starting point is 01:11:21 for a dog he didn't even fucking want. Oh, of course. And that's just, you know, the cherry on top. But even if it was equally their dogs, like, that's not how you respond when you're not getting your way. And that's the concerning part. So I think get the dog back, table the fixing conversation, and then you need to really assess, like, maybe now in considering this, like, there are some other things that he's done in the past that you're seeing differently. Like this is a, right.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Because this series. And also like, I think that you need to like, considering what he did was so serious, like you need to escalate your response to serious. And even if that's getting the dog, taking a beat, packing your bags,
Starting point is 01:11:59 leaving for a little bit, like he needs to realize that what he did was absolutely psychotic behavior period point blank and that you know literally you fuck around and you find out actions have consequences like you want to be a dog napper you're not going to have your wife at home yeah because like the the way the fact that like his response was to hurt you so deeply to take someone's dog away and like not know where they are and like put them in a constant state of like panic is a really really evil thing I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he didn't take the dog so that to cause you harm he took the dog
Starting point is 01:12:38 so that he could get his way and the dog wouldn't get fixed if the dog's not here she can't take the dog to the appointment I think that hurting you and like making you worried was an unfortunate byproduct of that I don't think he was like trying to hurt you he was just doing anything to get his way which is but not even thinking about his wife's feelings like that's so mean yeah no because his way and his feelings are more important to him no this is like a really this is the biggest red flag I've ever seen in my life. It's not even a flag. It's a fucking. Yeah, it just, and it just scares me to think about
Starting point is 01:13:11 like what this person would do with a child if he's this controlling about a dog and this is the length that he'll go to. That's a really good point. It's like when you think about like shared children, he's going to be even more impassioned about a decision, no matter, this isn't even like a huge decision. Like imagine like a real decision with kids like that has real implications and you guys
Starting point is 01:13:30 disagree. And it seems like he like this is such a weird hill to die on. So I would also want to know like why he's dying on this hill. You know, maybe there's a childhood trauma or something. Right. But barring that run immediately things to do immediately is to put on an act concede get the dog back just so we know the dog is back with you and safe and then you and the dog have to go somewhere like go to your mom's go
Starting point is 01:13:57 somewhere go to a friend's a hotel you like absolutely need to show him how seriously not fucking okay this is like and how serious you're taking it like I would even go so far as to like put him on a no contact for like a week yeah and you need and in that week you need to think you need to think back and you need to and of course write us an update and you need to update us I'm very disturbed by this it's really I think there I've heard you know many stories of like people who break up or they have partners who are, you know, like borderline abusive and like manipulative,
Starting point is 01:14:30 like using the dog as collateral because, you know, they know how much their wife or their girlfriend loves the dog and like stealing the dog. Dogs are often used as like pawns and chess pieces in relationships and it's so fucked up. And let's not forget, like it's your dog. So in a legal sense sense like if we're going to be legal the dog is yours yes yeah um I'm really sorry you're going through that that's
Starting point is 01:14:54 if I didn't know where Theo was for I mean she wrote in on Tuesday morning and this happened Monday night so it's been now like 36 hours without your dog. I'm really sorry. Like I, I think you, immediate plan, get the dog back. Then we'll figure it out. And write in again, because I would love to help you once you get the dog back. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:13 Keep us posted. And I'm so sorry you're going through that, but thank you for writing in. I hope we were helpful. And if anyone wants to write in again, it's deartoastersatgmail.com. That is our episode. And that is our final episode of the week so
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