The Toast - Alannah is Gonnah: Thursday, June 25th, 2026

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:09 It's Jackson, Claude and every show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Thursday. Yeah, that's right, the fourth and almost final day of the week. Hope everyone's having a great day. Hey, Jacqueline Filet. How are you doing? I'm doing good. excited that. It's Thursday. Very, very excited. I am going on a cajurna fred today. A real cojournal fred. Have the best time. Bon voyage. Yeah, I'm going to Dallas later today.
Starting point is 00:00:46 So this is my little airport look. My loop. I have like major news that I haven't even shared with you because I wanted to tell you live on the podcast. That you're wearing your hair half up, half down. Okay. Well, thank you for noticing. I am wearing my hair half up, half down, but that's not what I wanted to tell you. With a gene cinched ankle?
Starting point is 00:01:05 A cinchinkle gene. Correct. But all of these things are not the enormous news that I wanted to tell you. Because those two things on their own are enormous news. Are huge. Huge. But tell me. So, yesterday you didn't even ask, I had my EMG.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Right. The long-awaited results for what's wrong with my thumb. Are you ready? I'm glad I didn't ask. Sorry for not asking, but now I'm glad I didn't because I want to be learned with everyone. The EMG was inconclusive. So, yeah, I, first of all, EMGs are like two hour-long things. They're mostly uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:01:41 They basically, like, shock your nerves to, like, see if you feel it. So I literally, I was like this with my arm every three seconds. They want to see if you could like have reflexes. And then the last 10 minutes. So I wouldn't say it's like overall painful until the last 10 minutes where they take like a needle that looks like an epidural. And they just like shove it in different parts of your arm. And then at the very end they were like flip over. We're going to stick it in your back.
Starting point is 00:02:03 I said what? I was seriously shocked all of that just to be inconclusive. So basically what they were saying was that because the EMG like didn't tell us anything, that means that it's not a tendon issue. Right. It's not terrible. And it's not a ligament issue. Like it's not going to be something that's solved by surgery.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I was like, you know what? That's actually good news. He was like, that means it's more of a nerve issue. And that could mean a lot of things. And then when he started to say, he was like, this could be inflammation. It could be autoimmune. We'll have to get a blood test. And I was like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I am entering like Lyme disease celebrity territory. Yeah, a chronic. I was like, are you're kidding. Yeah, inflammation. I was like, you're kidding me. like my thumb doesn't work because of inflammation. He didn't even know. He was just throwing some ideas out there.
Starting point is 00:02:48 But I officially decided like in that moment, I will not be pursuing this endeavor further. Like I'm not, I'm gonna end up like Joe Manjonello with a shaman. Like I'm not doing it. Oh my God. I can't believe it was autoimmune inflammation. Yeah, he said there's basically something like stopping one of my nerves.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Like there's an inflammation basically. And it's like not working properly. And when I heard inflammation, I was like, I was like, you're kidding. I'm going to pack back. things. Yeah. I was just like, I sat here for two hours. I got needles inflammation. You know what? I almost wish now it was like a tendon thing that could be solved. First of all, I'm glad. I'm glad that you don't need surgery. That's not serious. It is like, you know, a little embarrassing. Of course. But it's the best
Starting point is 00:03:34 possible outcome truly. Yeah, he did say that like while everything was inconclusive and he recommended blood tests and an ultrasound acts, like he did also say like it should. It should. shouldn't really progress because I thought maybe like my hand was going to keep getting worse, affecting other fingers, then my wrist. And it's like, well, I need a hand. So I need to take care of this. He didn't think it was going to progress. But I'm just like, I'm done.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I am officially done. But don't you try like massages like to drain? So I actually went to a chiropractor when I was visiting you in Florida for something called the Grastin method where they like shove this metal bar up and down your finger to sort of stimulate the nerves. It didn't work. And I went two times. Well, now you have to go to an anti-inflammatory specialist.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I'm actually going to go seek some alternative methods like maybe acupuncture. I really believe in the. power of acupuncture, some eastern options. I've just, I've seen what I needed to see in terms of the like traditional healthcare system and like I'm good. Wow. I can't believe you even like shared that. Inflammation. Autoimmune. What are the odds after our conversation yesterday? Correct. So I was very productive on my love island day off. I got my long awaited years in the making EMG. Yep. I watched a real hot size of Rhode Island reunion. I'm all caught up, and I finished the best show on Earth four seasons.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I keep talking about it because no one gives this show any, like, airtime. I feel like people watch it, but it's just not the sort of people that are on TikTok and making content. It's the funniest show ever written. Like, it just is. I loved it. I highly recommend. And I also watch Real Housewives of Rhode Island, which I just want to touch on briefly because I know people are waiting. Now, this was such an amazing reunion.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And it's been so interesting to watch because I think there were a lot of dynamics within the group. that people, like, you know, Liz is the head boss, everyone's afraid of Liz. And that's just not what's playing out for the audience. Like, this was such a bad reunion for Liz. Like, she is like kooky and whatever, but like she was just like straight up lying. And she looked really crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And there were a couple of queens of the reunion. Liz was not one of them. I would say she's one of my worst. Her friendship with Joellen. She was like, I don't know where you're talking about that we were best friends. She was like, didn't we just spend Mother's Day together? And Andy's like, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:38 best friends would spend Mother's Day together. And she just kept getting like called out. And everything, she's like, you're making them. that up. You're, this is a conspiracy. You all ambushed me. Like, when she looks bad, it's like, because it was an ambush. Everything is just so, everyone's conveniently lying every time she looks bad. And the thing about Joellen is that, like, you could say what you want about her. I haven't, and I just met her. I haven't really seen her lie or get caught in a lie. She's not a liar.
Starting point is 00:06:00 She says, she's like annoying and I'm like a bone carrier, but she doesn't lie. And I know you love her, but it was also like a very bad reunion for Kelsey. Because Kelsey is also Liz's like BFF and like ass licker, which is fine, but the ass that you're looking had a bad reunion and like you're just over there licking her ass and it's like and then on her own sort of arguments oh she lost big time she really like rosy i'm sorry rosy is on her way to being a hall of fame housewife she's not she wasn't even trying and i feel like she defended herself so well there's so many allegations about her and i guess they were pre-existing to the show but joellen and kelsey are going after being like it was you who had a fair with that coach like you're in the police report
Starting point is 00:06:35 which is like kind of damning the guy had gotten arrested for a DUI and joelan is saying that in the police report Kelsey was in the car with him that's a smoking gun and rosy was like no i wasn't show me the police report Joan was like well I don't have it she was like well you saw it with your own eyes and Joelan was like well no so like people are just truly making things up about Rosie and I think at one point I probably believed the rumors that she had gotten
Starting point is 00:06:56 fired for like having sex with the higher up and that she also was the girl who had sex with the coach and she was like no I didn't it's been proven that it's not me like it was a Reddit thing from three years ago that you guys are obsessed with stop it and I feel like she really defended herself without getting highly emotional and I was inclined to believe her I really was
Starting point is 00:07:13 and then I don't know if you saw the read of the century when she was like going back and forth with Kelsey. It's like, it's going viral. It's like Slamp Big 2.0. What did she say? Well, Kelsey was going, like, repeating all the things that Rosie had said about her this season. She was like, and you said that I'm like, you know, I sucked Dick. I suck Dick for a living.
Starting point is 00:07:28 The only coworker you've ever had is in Miami. Yeah, is the girlfriend in Florida. Yeah. And it's just like, it was dead silent after. I don't know if they edited it that way, but like they wanted Rosie to have that moment. And it was really powerful. So I feel good about the fact that while I was initially Team Rosie and then I stopped caring, I'm back on Team Rosie.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And I think Kelsey and Liz, like, I think, I think, think they thought they were going to come on this show is like she's the pretty hot young thing Liz like runs this town it's really not been the case then I thought the couches were also weird like Rosie should have been on the other couch there's a lot of weird alliances also like joellen and and kelsey but then the ruler of it all so joelan and rula are going at it because joelan's the one who's been like gathering all this evidence about her husband having an affair and the season ends but it's like we know he's having an affair but the season ends and they pick up cameras because he was arrested for putting a tracking device on rule's car
Starting point is 00:08:14 She said she had a feeling and she took it to the shop And they found it and they like have to report it. So he literally got arrested for domestic violence. And the season ended being like, I don't know what I'm going to do. I don't know what I'm going to do. And here she comes into the reunion. She got a facelift and everyone's talking about it. She looks great.
Starting point is 00:08:28 New knows as well. And she's just coming after Joellen. Like yeah, I guess it's annoying that Joellen like brought all this up. Like you did ask her for proof and it is the job. And if you're like going on a housewife show with an active affair, you're just sort of asking for it. Yeah. And Joellen just kept saying it's so true.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Being like you're saying more here than you've said you were in three episodes. Rula was not in the show at all. She had a life-threatening illness and they showed her in bed. She's like in full glam in bed. It was just like she was hiding from the cameras because she had this thing. And I think maybe she didn't know that it was ongoing when she signed up for the show because no one would be that stupid actually. And her husband just continues to embarrass her. The husband's joined this week next week part two.
Starting point is 00:09:06 So they didn't really cover a lot of the affair. But like Rula and Joel and just like going after each other speaks. I saw a clip of Rula yelling at Joelle. in and I was like maybe the rest of the season the reunion was good but like that clip just turned me off to the show because like I'm not interested in watching like an unhinged woman like call another woman a whore when your husband is having an affair like she's just spewing garbage is so trashy looking to me. It was so trashy. And it was so like bottom of the barrel housewives content for me like watching Rula who's like just nonsensical at this point like nothing makes sense nothing adds up like you couldn't. have more in your closet and you're going to come at Joellen, who's like a young, lovely mother who's just letting you know that your husband's cheating on you. Yeah, it was three seconds. Like it really wasn't how the reunion went down.
Starting point is 00:09:56 And I think everyone sort of dismisses Rula as this like crazy person. But in Andy said it, it's so true. Like the roots that this group of people have is so crazy. And that's something they have on other franchises because they were just like telling a random story about like old beef between Liz and Rula. And it was so crazy. she was like, I was in Block Island, her favorite place, and me and Jerry were separated, her, Liz and her husband.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And so I was like with a guy, and the next morning, Jerry, my husband calls me, and like, we were on good terms. We were just, like, taking time apart. He calls me and says that your husband called him and said he saw me with another woman. And because they were saying, like, Brian, like, loves to rat on people. He called Jo Ellen's work and, like, rated on her for like. And so he's just like a rat.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And Rula was like, that's not true. That's not true. Now, Liz, everything's very convenient for Liz. It's like, oh, you saw me with another man. I was separated. It's like it's always something. But Andy was right. Like this group is really interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:46 And I think that's why Ashley has had a very hard. Not hard, like sort of unimpactful season. But Rosie's not really part of the OG story. I know. And Rosie like has it. You know, she can, she can succeed without having those roots. And I feel like Ashley's just sort of her plus one. But there was a really beautiful moment.
Starting point is 00:11:06 It was actually very sweet when they were talking about Ashley and Rosie's friendship. Like I didn't know that they were so close. and Ashley of course started crying, but I actually felt like it was warranted. She was like, Rosie is one of the best friends I've ever made in my whole life. Like she comes, like, we hang out all the time
Starting point is 00:11:20 and like we never go out to dinner. She is, when we hang out, she is on my floor playing with my kids. Like, she's one of the best people. It made me like Rosie so much. It also like endeared me to Ashley a lot. That's nice. So I'm definitely team Rosie Joellen. Even though Rosie and Joellen keep going at each other,
Starting point is 00:11:33 it's like annoying because Joellen is team Kelsey. It's like, the Kelsey Liz, Joellen, like, trio was I think supposed to be like the cool girl. but Joellen's sort of afraid and they had this issue at the night where... Frank Sinatra. Frank Sinatra night.
Starting point is 00:11:47 So I think it threw a wrench and everything and people don't know how to act. Yeah, did you see also Alicia's on therapist. I did. Okay, so Alicia, I didn't even mention her because she is kind of like not germane to the storyline at all, but she has so much personality.
Starting point is 00:12:00 She's vibes. She was seated next to Andy. I thought maybe like Joellen should have been there, but whatever. I love her. I love that she's on therapist. I love that she's like having her moment. I know that in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:12:11 beginning, like her and her husband's situation, like, was weird. But the more I watch them, like, I actually think he really loves and cares for her. And I know at the part two of the union, he's like, I have a present for you. And he pulls out a piece of paper. I think he's like putting her house on the deed. It is a red flag that it took him 10 years. Absolutely. And then he has to do it on the reunion. But as long as her name's on the house, I don't care how it happens. There's this viral moment when they're like going to the horse show and she's on the bus. And she's just like talking nonsense. She's like, I love a horse. And it's become like a viral sound. And in the moment, everybody was cracking up. That's like such a funny thing to say. And he's
Starting point is 00:12:40 looking at her like so. adoringly. Like he loves her. I'm telling you, I know they're problematic, but I should. Yeah. No, I think they have a cute relationship too. She just has to get like her financial standing in order and they should get married. They should get married. All in all, I was wrong about the real housewives of Rhode Island, even though I stand by the fact that they all are not like wealthy, which is sort of my like requirement for housewives. But it seems to be like not a thing anymore. I was wrong. I loved it. I'm so excited for season two. I can finally tell all the women apart. and A plus, like really good work. And the small town nature, because you wouldn't think Rhode Island, right? The small town nature of it, like, it is its own subculture. It was a really good idea.
Starting point is 00:13:20 And I was wrong. Yeah. I love it. Yeah, no, people are really into it. It's great. Should we get into the stories? There's actually a lot that we need to discuss today. Yes, and we have dear toasters, finally, because as promised, there's no Love Island recap.
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Starting point is 00:18:02 Thank you. Love Primal Kitchen. Sorry, I wanted to say one more thing. It reminded me, and I'm going to say it because I know you're going to stop me. I had a meeting yesterday about a project that we're working on, and Jackie will never let me, like, spoil anything. But I'm going to. Spoil.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Jackie and I actually are working on two major projects this year. Yes. The one that I had a meeting about yesterday will hopefully be launching at the end of the year. And when I left this meeting, like I was, I felt like I had done a line of cocaine. I was invigorated. We have so many party things coming. Not to be annoying. I just want to say, like expect greatness from the toast in Q4.
Starting point is 00:18:31 All we can say is watch this space. That's all. All we can say is Secret Project. And not to be those girls, but like, yeah. Pew Projects. We have two. We have two. Secret projects.
Starting point is 00:18:41 So. Watch the space. Okay, I'm ready for the stories. First story, West Wilson, is addressing it all on some video series called whiteboard. whiteboard with a guy who does things on a whiteboard? Yeah, I think maybe I've seen their videos before. And it wasn't a series I was familiar with, but it's these two guys who do like whiteboard explanations of like big topics.
Starting point is 00:19:06 So I've seen that like, not them, but I've seen like another girl do it where it's like, here is all the drama that's going on between Drake and Kendrick Lamar explained to you. So they do like explanations on a whiteboard. Got it. They also appear to be West's close personal friends because they were at the Yankee game with West and Amanda when they went to the Yankee game. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:21 so I didn't know. When I watched the whole video, I had no context on who these people were. And then by the end of the video, I felt it was crazy because I think up until this point, this might have been the worst thing that West had done for his Q score. The video enraged me, actually.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Oh, really? First of all, I feel like he's admitted to so many more lies. He is such a liar. And I think he was actually speaking, like, quite derogatorily about Amanda, which is like the only person left on his side. And like when the guys were like saying things, oh, you fucked Amanda.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Like that's what you're signing up. I just thought, I actually think I just like him more than ever. Like any ounce of goodwill I felt for him, like, oh, maybe they're in love. Oh my God, I thought it was so disgusting. And then to find out, these are your best friends. They were at the Yankee game. They've been to a million summer house parties. They're like a part of your friend group.
Starting point is 00:20:05 So this was the most flattering they could have made it. Oh my God. I thought it was horrible. So this was part one. There's more coming and there's like more on the board. Oh, no. Part two was already out. Oh, I didn't see part two.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I didn't see Meja. Part one is the gist, honestly. Yeah. But then there's like more on the board, Dara, Italy, Maha. etc, which I haven't gotten to yet. So he is going through the timeline. Again, they're starting from the beginning. He's sharing more.
Starting point is 00:20:30 And everyone in the comments is like, this is like literally more than he said on the entire reunion. Like these are the things that we wanted to know. But he is talking about like the video, the video in the apartment, which wasn't really addressed on the reunion. I don't know why. No, and he says it was like the catalyst for that shit statement
Starting point is 00:20:46 because they had had their own plan to like lie to everyone, figure out their feelings and then come forward. but this video being taken by he says his neighbor across the street. He was in his apartment, which is on the second floor, canoodling with Amanda with the blinds open. Yeah, like in New York City, like when you live across the street and apartments, you can see into other people's apartment. Like you just never know who your neighbors are,
Starting point is 00:21:03 so it's not interesting to you. Yeah, no, and he had said, and the guys were like, how did you not close your blinds? And he was like, I just felt like there was this unwritten rule in New York City that we can all see into each other's apartments, but we're not going to, like, film each other. And I actually thought the unwritten rule is that, like, we can all see into each other's apartments,
Starting point is 00:21:19 but nobody's looking. Like you really shouldn't be looking. Yes. I never, I could see a million. I never look. And we can all see into each other's apartments, but like don't walk by the window naked. Naked, you know, like don't do things that you wouldn't want other people to see.
Starting point is 00:21:31 But I guess the idea that like he would, if it was any other girl he'd make out on his couch, that's not a big deal if you saw your neighbor. But the idea that like because he's famous, he can't do certain things with the window up. I could understand how maybe he thought he was entitled to that privacy, but no, this is a crazy world. No, and he wanted.
Starting point is 00:21:49 to like make that clear. That was like one, I think something he wanted to address him, which is illegal, by the way. And the guys were like not believing him that he didn't know his nudes were leaked before the reunion actually started because we see him finding out in real time that his nudes were leaked. And they were like, there's no way you didn't know because why did you say, am I soft? Like, why would you assume that you're soft? Yeah. And he was like, they showed that on the reunion. So he hasn't even seen the reunion. He hasn't seen the season. He hasn't seen the reunion. He also like expresses that every single thing that they've done up until this point, like he regrets immensely like how they handle.
Starting point is 00:22:20 He regrets the lying. He regrets the statement. He regrets the month that they spent just acting like life could be normal for them, which I understand what he was trying to do. It's like we are going through something completely abnormal, you know, the name on everybody's lips, where the punchline of every joke. We're so hated.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Like we're not just going to like sit in our apartments and like cry. Right. Let's try and have a normal life. Let's block out everything everyone's saying and let's try and live our lives. because we're human beings and we deserve to live. So I understand the sentiment behind that. But there is a better way to do it.
Starting point is 00:22:53 And so already he regrets literally everything up until yesterday. And now he does this video and he's going to regret this video too because it's not going how he wanted it to go. It's giving like Demi Lovato when she kept making documentaries being like, no, this is my truth. I was lying last time. I don't know. I also don't really care anymore. I just feel like he came off at least to me so unlikable. not genuine not like nothing he didn't seem like he changed it all if i'm a manned and i'm watching that and it's
Starting point is 00:23:21 like all these guys are talking about me in like a really derogatory way and like you're just like broing it out it was like locker room talk i that one about her she's like you know she's like she's like a guy i am now at my peak of disliking west like they did very very briefly address the grandmother at the very end of part one and then part two they didn't even address it They were like, and then the night before you find out about your grandma. No, no. He's like, when? And then your grandmother passed away.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Like, how did you, when did you find out? He was like that day. And it was funny because the night before I went to bed thinking to myself, okay, like the worst day of my life, like, probably just happened. Like, it's all up from here. And then he found out about his grandmother the next day. And then that was over. And the guy sitting next time was like, I'm really talking about that. Like, that's some real stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And he was like, thank you. And then they moved on. Yeah. I don't know what would be the right format for West because I think he's kind of like irredeemable just as a person, just his value system. and like how he sees and moves in the world. He's a bad guy. Yeah, but certainly like these like snackable bites of content.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Like, and you know, him just like giving, oh, yeah, that was chill. Like just giving like five word responses isn't good. I would almost want to say like something like long form where maybe we could like get to know him and understand. Like even when he touched on the fact that like his dad. His anger issues as a child have like led him to be like to sort of just become very. neutral in moments of that was i'm sorry that was like a very performative like therapy it was you know and and i don't understand what he was i don't understand it but like and right objection relevant yeah no but like if i don't know we just got to know him more like maybe
Starting point is 00:24:57 why are you incapable of having a girlfriend why have you truly like i don't know that i would sit down for the long form interview but i if there's any chance that like in his soul there's a human being there yeah like we need to get it out of him and and it's not going to happen in like joky sort of content like this. I think he just like wants to go back to the way that things were. And it was very intentional going to like a show that's not associated with Bravo. It's not like a girly show. It's like a dude show.
Starting point is 00:25:25 It's like an intentional move. But I love that the comments were not buying it. Yeah. And it's like you gave more to the show than you gave to the reunion. Oh, he already regrets how they behaved at the reunion, taking all that medication. Everything was undone. Everything that they have done up until one minute ago, he now concedes was the wrong thing to do and the wrong way to go about it.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Like that statement was so crazy. I remember when it dropped and I still didn't believe it because it didn't say anything. It could have literally been a statement about to be a new flavor of Buffalo Wild Wings. Like it couldn't it didn't have anybody's names. It didn't have their own names. It didn't say anything. It was such a piece of garbage and like the fact and what he basically said is like their publicist wrote it. He didn't write it. Amanda didn't write it. He didn't say chat,
Starting point is 00:26:10 Chb-T, I'm sure they put it in chat. I don't believe that a publicist wrote it. I think of public, who else do you think wrote it? Or a manager? I think they did. He said, I mean, I know we can't believe him because he's a liar. I'm sorry, the whole time it was just them, like so insular, this thing between them. I literally doubt they hired anyone.
Starting point is 00:26:26 I'm serious. Because you know what? Hiring a professional would be a good decision and they have not made good decisions at once. This interview was enraging, like genuinely enraging him sitting there in his chunky cable-knit sweater. I can't engage with the content because I'm someone who, like, believes people. when they say something.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Like, and so if, if you're just always telling lies, like this is irrelevant to me. Like, even I believe him that nothing happened with Jen Vessler, right? Like, I believe him when he said that.
Starting point is 00:26:54 But then it's like, when he said, that's my friend. And it's like, oh, but that's what you said about Amanda on Watch what happens live. That's my,
Starting point is 00:27:00 that's a friend. I believe Jen Fessler more than I believe West. Yeah. The whole time it was just giving, like, you deserve prison, but you,
Starting point is 00:27:11 like, he is such. I've said this before and I'm sorry for repeating myself he's a bad person he's a bad guy and I don't say that lightly because I believe like at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:27:23 most people are good and I think some people are misunderstood and some people like try to be good and end up being bad I think West Wilson is like an actually bad person yeah yeah I just I don't know I can't deal with the lies
Starting point is 00:27:39 and he said that and he recognizes that he has no credibility because he's lies He said it at the reunion too, though. And then now we know he was lying at the reunion. No, what did he lie about at the reunion? The timeline, right? He didn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:27:50 He didn't say anything at the reunion order to lie. He admitted during this video series that he lied about something in the reunion. He's just irredeemable. So stop trying to redeem yourself, go get a job and offline. And also, it's like, I never want to see you again. If you ever want, like, you need a break. They haven't taken a break. And it's like, not that I need you to, like, go away into the dark and climb into a cave,
Starting point is 00:28:12 but like to just sort of like stay yeah and I guess they try to do that they go to Italy and people take their picture and whatnot yeah like he still does his like he they just need to like ground to themselves honestly the way he was talking it like did it make it seem like they were still a couple because seriously who would talk about their partner like that and who would like be in a room where your partner is being spoken about like that yeah no I think there's still a couple yeah because like yeah as soon as they're not you know she's going to go on her apology tour and she probably will then do call her daddy. That was also an interesting part of the aftermath.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Yeah, but they have said that it wasn't call her daddy. What was it? I don't know, nobody knows. People were trying to figure it out on, um, Vio files? I downloaded threads. Vial files? They were talking about it.
Starting point is 00:28:57 I think vile files was thrown out there. They said no. It was kind of like, it was giving what fucking podcast is this? Okay, well, that would be like, you know, when Tom Sandoval went on Howie Mandel. Somebody, I was actually thinking that it might have been Howie Mandel. Literally.
Starting point is 00:29:09 yeah okay well then I'm super glad she didn't do it if it was gonna be like something random not even a good one not one of like the go-toes to talk about reality TV drama correct honestly like she should go on j shetty but she shouldn't because no because she doesn't she doesn't she doesn't have what it takes well like the depth but j sheddy's also like you're supposed to go on when like you are healed yeah like she's a mess yeah she's a mess like j sheddy can't help her right now sweetie even jsheddy can't help you um are you ready for our next story yeah we should have a lot of tv news today first up lyusa has fired alana oh my god alana's gone it took them a while alana is gone gonna they needed her for a plot device in the second she served her purpose which i'm
Starting point is 00:30:04 sure we'll find out in like two or three days um they probably let her go because the hype has sort of died down so if you're not going to do it when people are actually no one's talking about it anymore. Like we're talking about other things. No, I think that people started to see her again. I think everybody like expected that she would be gone. She wasn't in the episode. And then if she became like a character again, they would have resurfaced it. But so like Lausa star Alana Kaiser has reportedly been fired from the show after she was caught appearing to use a racial slur and a resurfaced video. Producers edited Alana out as much as possible from episodes that were pre-taped before the
Starting point is 00:30:37 resurfaced racial video, racial slur video was exposed. She couldn't be removed completely. but her scenes were significantly trimmed down into Tuesday's episode. She was gone. She was gone. Yeah, and it's very good for Zach because if he was like stepping out on Kada and like being dishonest and, you know.
Starting point is 00:30:53 We'll never know. Gone. It's like the villain of Taylor Frangy Paul's season. Yeah. They say Taylor Frangy Paul season is. That was actually our next story. I shouldn't have spoiled it. So back to Alana.
Starting point is 00:31:05 They had to. Once you do it once, you have to do it to everyone. Yeah, of course. I think we should all get comfortable like with this being a, a thing forever. Yeah, I was like not even questioning. Don't get too attached to your favorite islanders. I was not even questioning whether or not she was going.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Bye. Yeah. So it's like just a crazy thing. It's just like at this point it is a right of passage for every season of Love Island. Someone is going home. No, but this is like the Santa also. This isn't the first of the season. Who?
Starting point is 00:31:42 She was part of... We never even saw her. OG Villagers. I wonder who got her spot. It's giving Anaya. You think so? Ania is like such a random person. To be an OG.
Starting point is 00:31:53 To be an OG. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this... At least we never even got to know her. Like it was actually very disruptive when they sent Sierra home. She was like the HBIC of the girls. She was in the most progressed couple.
Starting point is 00:32:13 she was the first one to close off, gone in the night. Oh my God, that was insane. Yeah. That was insane. Yeah. Well, our next story, Taylor Frankie Paul's Bachelorette season is preparing to air. So there's an excellent chance that Taylor Frankie Paul's season of The Bachelorette will air on ABC next month. TMZ has learned.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Production sources tell TMZ the current discussion behind the scenes is for the season to premiere in mid-July, though final plans are not locked yet. sources say when ABC pulled the season from its schedule, editors working on the series never stopped cutting the episodes, a sign that the network was keeping the door open for a future premiere. Okay. Okay. I just feel like it actually really speaks to... Not that I don't want Taylor Frankie Paul to be canceled.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Like, I really want her to be okay. But it's like these networks are so unsurious and they're so... It's kind of like Bravo firing Kristen Doty and then just because people wanted them to and then putting her back on the valley. Like it's just performative. Yeah. Actually cares about any of these people. It's like, okay, I don't even care.
Starting point is 00:33:21 I don't know why I get involved. Like, okay. You're gonna give what you're gonna do. I think when the, when the video came out, and again, like we know that production knew about the video. It's public record.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Everybody knew that this happened and people close to her knew the degree to it should happen because even the girls, you watch season one, they're talking about it. They're talking about throwing bar stools. We didn't know what was going on at the time.
Starting point is 00:33:40 But people knew, people who run back toarwin checks on her knew her at production. producers knew. So I think the video coming out, like, it made it too hot for them to air her season that night. At that moment. That fucking night. But like it didn't change the fact that they casted her and they casted her knowing all of this. And so I actually think like I want to see her season. And I think that, you know, we just needed some time. Like it doesn't make it okay. It doesn't make it better. But like that was obviously a very, very dark and point in her life.
Starting point is 00:34:16 We all know who won though now. I know, but like, yeah. The thing is she was spotted with him like in the midst of this scandal once. They like comment on each other's stuff. Like they... It does give like a viewer potential hope that it does work out.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Yeah, but she had to have picked up cameras again, right? But then the roommate said she like came home and slept with Dakota. Like after her season... If this girl... If this fucking bitch is still messing with this guy, this evil monster.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Another person who's an actual bad person. Yeah. Worse. Dakota Losertsin. That is irredeemable. I will actually be speechless. Yeah, but it's also weird to think about how last episode of Slamu, she's going to Bachelorette still on the phone with Dakota.
Starting point is 00:35:11 And like, so if we watch her season, like, we're watching that day where she's like, this like broken person shell hung up on Dakota like she would need to be the bachelorette like in a year from now you know like so I don't know but I think this season must be good if they're if they're holding on to it you know if it were bad and she was right her heart wasn't in it they kind of might have been like you know what it's good that we that we don't have to air it so I don't know I just I'm like rooting for her I know she makes it hard she makes it hard she makes it's all hard to at every turn at Every turn.
Starting point is 00:35:45 She is almost always making the wrong decision. Yeah, no, it's, it's really hard. I can't imagine being her friend. I don't think I could be her friend. No. But I don't, I just like want her to like pick herself up and like she has so much like available to her.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Like so many opportunities. People really love her. People like really just like see themselves in her. And they see, yeah, there's something about her that's just people can't quit. But I think also, you know, I don't know. She's just like so vulnerable. and I just, I want her to get it together. And I think, I think her season airing will help her get it together because it's like more,
Starting point is 00:36:20 you have to go and depress. And yeah, and like more upper, like she can come back into the public sphere a little bit. And that's why I kind of want her season to air so that her story didn't end like that because Dakota fucking leaked that video of something that like everybody knew that had happened and like chose to hire her still. Speaking of Salamow, Jesse Draper is on vacation and like pretty much full. in a relationship with Marciano. Like at first they were doing,
Starting point is 00:36:46 not blonde. At first they were doing like kitsy like Instagram stuff. People thought it was like a joke or just like whatever. But they're like fully in a relationship. Yeah. And like Michaela Matthews is like clowning on her
Starting point is 00:36:56 and Jesse's clapping back. Somebody has to. Well like, but what if Marciano is the great love? Y ain't. But she seems so happy. This is the person who like blackmail do.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I know. That part is bad. Really bad. He said like that you had sex when you and he tried to smear your name. Tried to ruin your life. Okay. And also, like, them seeming so happy.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Like, I take it back. Like, in a one minute, like, video, anyone can seem happy about anything. And, like, she also seemed happy when she was with Jordan, you know? Right, but they're like, right. But they're on vacation. They went last night to Stasi's, like, birthday dinner as a couple. And she's with her parents, right?
Starting point is 00:37:35 Yeah. It was a family vacation. Yeah. It's fucking crazy. And the parents seem to like him because they're making content with him. Another bad decision maker. I know, but like, okay, but what if, like, what if their OTP? What if, like, their person, like, what if they just, like, are in love?
Starting point is 00:37:50 We'll have to wait. Then, then I can't say anything. I'll talk to me in 10 years. Okay. And, like, he's profusely apologized, like, for what? You know what I mean? Like, what if? Has he?
Starting point is 00:37:59 What if? I don't know. But what if? I mean, everyone can come back from, like, sure, sure. Like, what if this is it for Jesse? It's not. It's not going to be Marciano Burnett. It's not.
Starting point is 00:38:12 I think it actually has to be Marciano. I don't know a lot, but I know that it's not going to be Marciano-Bernet. I know. I'm just like, I'm not right for this world because I just assume like the best intentions of people. You do. I assume that everyone's telling the truth. I assume that like, you know, if two people like this are together, then like everything was a misunderstanding and like just for TV and they've worked it out. Of course.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And I just like, it's really hard to commentate on things where it's like we literally have 5% of the information. Speaking of whatever. Have you listened to Olivia Rodriguez new album at all? I tried yesterday, but like I was driving a different car and I couldn't drive a new car and listen to new music. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to bring up like trauma. No, but you know what I mean? Like I was trying to figure out where the system is not your usual system.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Where the windshield wipers were, I can't also be trying to process a new song. Like I had to put on 1989 Taylor's version actually. Yeah, of course. No, you need your comfort music. That's like listening to new music and this is what I did when I walked to him from the studio. That's when I listened to it, just like a mindless walk. There's a time and a place.
Starting point is 00:39:11 and it's not when you're driving a huge car that you've never driven before. I have to tell you, I'm very hard on Olivia Rodriguez, and I just want to say I stand by that. Like I think that, you know, we have conversations worth having. This album is amazing.
Starting point is 00:39:26 I saw Liz Wood saying that. That's why I gave it a chance, but I have to give it a chance in a more controlled environment. It is so good. And everyone's music sounds the same. And some of it's good, some of it's not. But this just like also sounds different.
Starting point is 00:39:40 It sounds like almost music that sounds like real music. And it's really, it's exceptional. Like it's a masterpiece. People are saying album of the year, album of the year. I just want to say I don't think it's going to be album of the year. I think Noah Kahn is going to be album of the year, which is also like going platinum in my home. Do you know that song about his mama?
Starting point is 00:39:58 No, I don't think so. I'm an astronaut. Oh my God, I can't stop. I see it in Reels. I see it in orbit. I sing for you. Yeah, it's so good. I see it in Reels.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And like, if you want to. make an emotional reel, you said song. A hundred percent. I actually made an emotional real and didn't post it because it was like so emotional. And then people found out that the song is about his mom because you can make it about anything. But he writes a song about his mom which is like, I'm an astronaut, you're the moon. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Okay, I'll continue. So I think that's going to be the album of the
Starting point is 00:40:28 year. Sorry, sorry. I didn't mean. I'm sorry. I also like that song. I'm with my best friend there now. Camping on the county line. I'm scared to ask this question. Yeah. But what's with the San Juan song? Oh, I'm, I thought you'd never ask. So it was just a TikTok made by this guy who goes to, are you okay?
Starting point is 00:40:53 Do you want to take a break? Oh, love. Okay. Getting a little choked up. Do you have a tissue? That's just like really sweet. It is. It's so sweet.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Let's end the show. Okay. I can't. We have two more ads. I'm doing this. The San Juan song. So this guy made a TikTok and there's this app. Have you heard of it?
Starting point is 00:41:20 Yes, sorry, bitch. These jeans are going to pay for themselves. There's this app called Suno or something so new. It's an AI app that can like make songs for you. You can either tell it like lyrics and they'll create. Ben created a song on it like about the Knicks. Like I've had my whole life I've been waiting for this. And this guy went to San Juan and like made a TikTok and he had this app and make him a song.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I think he was. he wrote the lyrics and asked them to like generate a song from it. And the song in its entirety is hilarious about how we went to San Juan. He didn't want to do just tourist stuff. So I took the bus to Kagwas immediately was enchanted. The whole plane clapped when we landed. It is so catchy. The lyrics are hysterical.
Starting point is 00:42:05 All the guys like, of course, gone viral. He's on the Today Show. It is just a good song. And so people just started using it a lot. It's gone viral. It's actually like, I feel like things haven't gone viral like that in a really long time. It's just like corny ass, like Ellen type shit, you know? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:21 And it's just a good song like that's lit. The way like music video, the YouTube videos. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's like very a chuggy millennial. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Okay. Cute. So like we could make a song on So New. We should. Let's make another theme song. We just have to write lyrics. Oh, we should make a closing song where it's like about like, you know, listen on Stitcher cast box, public radio, beautiful, setting, smart, let you buy.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Have you seen that like AI companies are doing like a lot of influencer marketing and it's become like a lot, like, um, it's kind of become like a big deal because like so many influencers are like performative, talking about how AI is like, you know, rooting the government or the environment or whatever it does? And then they're over here like doing like chat ads, like Claude, Claude. I've only seen like Billy Elish. Oh, yeah. Well, I just want to say we love AI. And so you can pay us. And people won't find videos of us complaining. Like, you're never going to go back and find old videos of us saying AI is bad. We love it. I was using it this morning right before we started. So I just want to say, I am available. Oh my God. I went to get my eyebrows waxed yesterday. And she asked me if I'm on like any creams or anything. So I was like, actually I have my new redness cream. My rosacea.
Starting point is 00:43:31 My redness cream. So we had to like look. I was like, I showed her, you know, the ingredients. I'm like, I think it's fine. It's not, it's pretty mild. It's not like anything crazy. And she was like, okay, I'll put it in chat,
Starting point is 00:43:41 GPT. I was like, no, allow me. I've got the premium subscription. No, and like my chat really knows me, you know? And they,
Starting point is 00:43:49 like, so if I say, chat, can I use this, like to get an eyebrow wax? And it was fine. And it was fine. Look,
Starting point is 00:43:54 look at these brows. So good. I'm getting mine done tomorrow. Ooh. I actually, so the last time I got an eyebrow wax was with this lady. And the last,
Starting point is 00:44:03 I can't even tell you how long it was. I can't even tell you. Oh. No, no, it was Claudia. Like, if I tell you, it's embarrassing how long. No, it's not. Like, some people, like, brows are, like, a necessary beauty appointment. The same way you get your hair X times a year, the same way you get a manicure once a week.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Brows. I am one of those people. I try not to let, like, one or two months go by without getting my brows done. I have an amazing woman who comes to my house. Shout out Mercedes. Like, I, I, it's very important to me. But then there are people who it's like, it's not an essential part of their beauty routine. Yeah, I'll do it or sure.
Starting point is 00:44:34 My eyebrows like grow out. And then they sort of stop. It doesn't like, and also because it's blonde, like my unibrow is like, peach fuzz. But just to say, last time I saw her, I had two children and I wasn't even pregnant yet. Oh, wow. Do you, do you like pluck them on your own? No.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Oh, speaking of my tweezers. You only see what I draw in, you know? Of course. Speaking of my tweezers, I want to share like a very huge thing that happened in my house yesterday. My husband has had this blackhead right in his ear. Like if I'm sitting next to him on his side and I'm looking at him, I could see the black head. It is so big.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Like one or two times I tried to pop it with my hands and he was like, get off of me. Then yesterday, Ben had like a very long ear hair. So much, it was like pulling out of his ear like a like seriously like a hobbit. And he was like, can you pluck this for me? I was like, can I pluck this? Of course. I went and got my tweezers. Then I was in his ear already with my tweezers.
Starting point is 00:45:27 I said, give me one shot. I've never gone at it with my tools, you know, just my hands. And it's in a tough spot. I used my tweezers. It came out almost instantly. It should have been on like a Dr. Pimple Popper TikTok. It was the biggest, most gratifying moment of my life thus far. I'm going to throw up.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Oh, okay. Cool. Just girls, if you know, you know. Like I couldn't even look at my husband anymore. Like this big fucking thing in his ear. Oh, my God. I'm literally nauseous. It was so amazing.
Starting point is 00:45:59 It was like the head was very black. And I got the sack too. Like it was just incredible. Not the sack. Yeah. Let's get into our next story. Actually, something I'm excited to talk about. Is it what you're excited to talk about?
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Starting point is 00:49:08 select the toast in the drop-down menu that follows. Thank you, Tert menu. You're welcome. Our next story, Noah Cyrus is collaborating with Frankie Jonas. They have a new song coming out, and she's opening up about connecting with her best friend, Frankie Jonas. So when I saw this come across my algorithm, I was like, what in the what?
Starting point is 00:49:29 Noah Cyrus, Miley's little sister. Frankie Jonas, bonus Jonas, Jonas Brothers Little Brother, have a song out. So I watched the video of like the teaser for the song and it was amazing. So fun fact that unless you're chronically online, you most likely don't know because he hasn't had any like real mainstream success. But Franklin Jonas makes music and he is an incredible singer. He does a lot of like very high quality like reels promoting his music.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And the songs are always good. But his voice is like insane. I think he like tours if you're in the Jonas Brothers fandom. his thing after and like he makes music and he tours and if you're in the joe bro fandom i think like a very niche part of it is like also a huge frankie jonas fan i don't really understand why like him being so musically inclined like why he wouldn't just be added to the jonas brothers and you know what i think that they actually could use like a little bit of a refresh like a gen z edition why not add frankie maybe he doesn't want to be a part of it but that is very awkward it is like he's doing music he's
Starting point is 00:50:27 really good it's not like he's bad i think in the documentary like about their reunion there was like this awkward element because at one point like Kevin was not really getting better he was getting worse at guitar he doesn't do vocals so when everyone's like not performing at the same level of course it's awkward but Frankie's like crushing I don't know why I don't know either so their new song is called high and sad it just came out she wrote I'm already tearing up
Starting point is 00:50:47 thinking back on all the memories I've shared with Frankie it's funny I've always felt like no one could ever understand my exact life and experiences the way it feels to be seen as the underdog of a family but anytime I think of Franklin I knew he was somewhere understanding and sharing those same feelings in moments that only the two of us and very few people could only understand. I want to play the snippet because I feel like people are going to be really surprised by what it sounds like.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Yeah. I am actually, I want to like pre-save it on Spotify because I want to listen to the song. It was like a new sound. You know what you said like Olivia Rodriguez like a new sound? That doesn't sound like other music. Yeah, this was giving new sound. Okay. Okay, let's hear the sound.
Starting point is 00:51:29 I haven't heard it. It's over damn she's about to blow Very falking It's a little gospely You know, they grew up in a church Isn't that good? It is Again, I beg the question
Starting point is 00:52:04 Like why he's not in the Jonas brothers He is a brother Jonas And looking at the video of Noah and Franklin Like it looks like young Miley and young Nick Like it's really That's really cute Like it's a throwback It's really cute.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Like I did. Before the storm. So anyways, that was a bit of content I enjoyed and was surprised by, and I thought my fellow millennials would enjoy it as well. A little Nepo sibling, QLab. Earned. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm not.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Noah Cyrus is very talented. Historically, I'm not a fan of Noah Cyrus. Oh, why? I don't know. I don't have like a feeling about her. Like, I don't think about her ever. I think the last time I saw what she was doing musically, I found it to be in the bucket of like dark depressing.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Billy Irish for this and darkness sort of content and that's not my style. This is not that. Love that. Yeah. Our fifth and final story, Real House Eyes Ultimate Girls Trip, Roaring 20th trailer promises the biggest crossover event ever with 82 cameos. What was the headline news from this? Remember we talked about it once like someone, remember?
Starting point is 00:53:11 They're going on a road trip. Yeah, okay, never mind. Maybe I'm just making some of it. I don't know if they're going on the road. It's a girls trip. They're going to six cities to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Real Housewives' Ultimate Girls Trip. And the OGs in attendance are Vicki Gumbelson, Luand Dilluseps, Portia Williams, Teresa Judice, Kyle Richards, Giselle Bryant, and Lisa Barlow. That's a pretty good lineup.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I have a couple of tweaks. I have a couple tweaks. I don't love like the Ultimate Girls Trip genre of like spin-off. It just wasn't for me. I watched like the first two. It's like whatever. It got old quick. But doing like an anniversary special with all the women
Starting point is 00:53:49 Because it is always fun at like BravoCon or when they do like the Watcher Reppens Live specials like when people convert This is cute and fun but I'm not like a big ultimate girls trip fan No me neither this is more so like about like legacy and you know just like honoring the moments There's like a montage of you know all the iconic lines I think some of them like you know are Re-living some of those moments and reenacting them as well So that's fun it just makes me feel a little like old and like Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I don't know, end of an era, even though it's very much ongoing. Which housewives are being represented. Luan is representing New York. That feels good. That feels right. Even though, you know, people love to say Luan did have one season where she was demoted to friend of, so she's not the longest friend. But I don't think the network could handle Ramona.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Oh, no. No. Vicki Gumelson is representing Orange County. Absolutely. Portia Williams is representing Atlanta. So I am the biggest Portia Williams fan. I love her. Did you see she's actually going viral because she was on Z-W.
Starting point is 00:54:46 And for the first time ever, she, like, beat Zeeway. I'm not, like, entirely sure what the premise of the Zeeway show is, but it's like, you're just supposed to, like, make the other one more uncomfortable. It's like, I think it's like Caleb Presley vibes. Yeah. And she's, it's the first time I've ever seen anyone, like, get Zway back better. Yeah. Are you ashamed of being thin?
Starting point is 00:55:03 Are you ashamed of being slim? She's such a queen. Oh, yeah, cornbread. I love her. The thing is, she's, like, a relatively late addition to the show. There are a lot of, like, OG, Nini, Shire. It should have been Nini. I know Nini has a complicated relationship with the network
Starting point is 00:55:18 so I could say like maybe that's not why. Or it could have been Kim, but yeah, I feel like of everybody who's like, Shire, like there's a lot. In good graces. But I guess she is still actively on the show and filming. And I don't know, so is Vicky. So maybe they're trying to get people who are still like
Starting point is 00:55:35 active on their franchises in some capacity. I saw someone tweet. I can't remember like it was just a viral tweet that sincere from Love Island has the same vocal. inflection and mannerisms as Shiree Whitfield. Well, okay, now I need to see it side by side. Watch out for it. Just watch out for it.
Starting point is 00:55:56 She by Shrette. Joggers. Teresa Judez, New Jersey, of course. Pau Richards, Beverly Hills, of course. Giselle Bryant, Potomac. That feels right. I mean, Nogne-Dar and she's literally in jail. I know if she was available when this was filming.
Starting point is 00:56:10 I think she actually was imprisoned. Okay, so that's the only reason, because it should be Karen. She's my queen of Potomac. But Giselle, I'm sorry, Giselle represents her franchise and, like, her city really well. And I think whenever they have to tap someone for Potomac, she's almost like always the go-to.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Yeah, no, and she does it well. You know what I mean? Like she's not really a wild card. Like at the NBC upfronts last week, or like last month they had someone from every city and it was Giselle, like she's always the ambassador. Yeah, no, and she's a good one. And she like, you know, knows how to represent the franchise.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Lisa Barlow for Salt Lake City, very interesting. Yeah. I mean, I don't know who else it could have been. Maybe Heather Gay. Heather Gay, I'm sure she's shocked. Because the network, like, loves her.
Starting point is 00:56:54 She has her own show on Peacock about Mormonism. Her daughter is getting her show on Campus Confidential is a new show. I don't know if it's on Hulu, but it's like her daughter taking us behind the scenes of her university. Oh. Yeah, she's kind of a darling of,
Starting point is 00:57:09 but I don't think the fans like her. That's the thing. She was like a fan favorite, and then people turned on her. People just love, love, love, love Lisa Barlow. Yeah, like I would say Lisa and Heather are both like at the same tier of doing like iconic stuff, you know, songs, books, this, like, um. Receipts, proof, timeline. But I'm sure that Heather is shocked that it's not her.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Yeah. And then they're going to stop in like six cities. There's 82 cameos. And that's what's happening. August 9th. I would watch out. I would watch out. Yeah, we'll be together.
Starting point is 00:57:40 So maybe we'll watch together. Maybe we won't. Let's dive into our final segment of the day, which is Dear Toasters long awaited. So every Tuesday, sometimes Thursdays, Thursdays for the foreseeable future while Lov Island is on. We like to do an advice segment where we just try to help out members of our community. You can write to us via email, Deer Toasters at gm.com, or head on over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. You can scroll down to the submission box that says Dear Toasters, if you need advice from us,
Starting point is 00:58:04 or anything going on in your life, we're going to try and help you. And it's, you know, it might not be the advice that you want to hear, but it's the advice that you need to hear. Are you ready? Mm-hmm. Hey, Jackson Claude. I love the podcast. I listen every day to stay abreast on what I need to know. So for context, I'm a sixth grade teacher.
Starting point is 00:58:18 That's kids that are 11 going on 12. I'm currently teaching summer school. And during a break one day, I heard one of my students talking about how Melanie and sincere are the best couple and Casey should leave Anaya. I interjected and asked if he was watching Love Island and he said yes.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I was shocked and I can't believe he thinks Melanie and sincere are the best couple. I was shocked and asked who he was watching with, to which he responded that he watched us by himself. Now, Love Island is obviously not age appropriate. I feel so icky that he's watching all this orgy-filled content. I'm not sure if I should call home to let his mom know that he's watching or if I should, if that would be overstepping.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Should I just let it go because there's so much crazy stuff kids are watching these days and I shouldn't get involved? Please advice and thanks for the giggles. Oh, I would just like wonder how often you interface with his parents. Like I don't know that this needs to be a phone call home. But like, do they pick him up? Do they drop him off? Like you could just give him a side and just be like, hey, I, you know, is it a boy or girl?
Starting point is 00:59:06 I don't know. He was watching. He was talking about the show that he's watching. Like I've seen some stuff and I think it's inappropriate, but so I just wanted to flag it for you. But you also don't want to tell people like how to parent and... So I don't know what like the policy is as a teacher. Like when you do interject or say something
Starting point is 00:59:20 because I think a lot of times it is overstepping and the parents don't react well. But in terms of you, like I would just clear your unconscious. Like yeah, say something. Yeah. And like as a parent I would want to know. Of course. So I think that's the right thing to doing.
Starting point is 00:59:36 You know, the parent might think he's just, oh, watching the show Love Island is how. Pekock, it's summer, it's fun. Right. And they have no idea, because they don't advertise that it's a pornography. Correct. You would never know, like, the depths of depravity that go on in that show unless you watch a whole episode.
Starting point is 00:59:50 It's, by the way, 11-year-old watching Love Island is crazy work. Yeah, really crazy. I'm sorry, I think step in. Like, that's a job as a teacher. Yeah. And if your biggest crime is that you, like, overstepped and made, like, a mom feel bad or whatever, like, okay, well, at least she knows now. Yeah, and just, like, you know, say it as if she doesn't know what's on the show.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Like, not, like, scolding her. You let your child. I watch this. No, right. I think he's watching the show that's not appropriate for his age if you just wanted to check that out. I also think like teachers have like their own methods. I think there are probably like teachers who's like philosophy is to get involved and say something who totally stay out of it. But I'm sorry. Like if you know this, you have to say something.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Summer school is also different because that's not like your teacher. Right. It's not like your home girl who you know forever. You're building a relationship 10 months. Yeah. So you know what? It's home. It's summer school. It's fleeting. You never see these people again. Tell her. Tell her. Sorry, 11 is nutty. Okay. Hey, Jackson, Claude. And you might two swirlies to tell me if I'm being psycho, postpartum, or if my feelings are actually valid. My husband and I, scratched, my husband and I had a baby about three months ago. This past Sunday was my husband's first Father's Day. While sitting at the Father's Day, lunch with his family, he got a text from a work colleague, a female work colleague who was not married and has no children herself. I looked over in enough time to read most of the message. Happy Father's Day. My baby's name, she didn't want to say it. Blank is so incredibly lucky to have you as a daddy. Hope you're spoiled today because you deserve it.
Starting point is 01:01:14 See you Monday. He quickly put the phone back in his pocket and did not respond. Today he came home from work with a gift bag and said it was a Father's Day gift. I asked if it was from said woman and he said, and I quote, yeah, sort of, but like from all the staff, I think. Inside the bag was a watch and two baseball tickets. I think this is extremely inappropriate and my mind has been reeling ever since. Is this normal behavior or is a sign of first time mama who doesn't know first parent holiday etiquette? No, that's not normal.
Starting point is 01:01:40 The gift is not normal. I watch. No, I think the text is even crazier. Baby is so lucky to have you. Some people send texts that are like very, you know, some people like wake up on Father's Day and like text all the fathers in their phone. You know what I mean? Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:01:56 You know what's so funny? We were just talking about this at Majong about how like when you marry into a family, like some people's families just have different practices that like seems so far into you. And something that Ben's family does, which is actually really sweet. But when at first time I thought it was so weird, like the way you would text like your friends for your birthday. They also like text always, maybe even write a card for other people's anniversaries. Yeah. Some people just like, you know, they're up on their text messages. And so
Starting point is 01:02:17 absolutely. Maybe this person like sent that text message to every father that she knows. So I don't think the text is so crazy because texts are like kind of meaningless. I don't know. Father, yeah, you do that to everyone's mother. But like I'm sorry, father's day, mother's day are not equal. Oh, I don't think she's differentiating. I think she's like, you know, like, and I think it's also. I'm sorry, like single women, you have to be measured in your communications with married men. Same with single men and married women. Like, I feel like if you're set, let's say there's nothing going on here and you're just sending that text. You're a crazy person.
Starting point is 01:02:51 No, but like if you just sent that text, if she just sent the text, like, okay, I think some people like just think it's inappropriate. Some people do stuff like that. But you have to understand some people do stuff like that. And I think also it's like a way for them to like, you know, center themselves like, hey, like look at me. like I remembered, you know? And the gift is what's crazy to me because that's not just like, hey, I'm trying to send texts to everyone who's a father.
Starting point is 01:03:13 No, I watch in two baseball tickets. What is this, a $10,000 gift? Like, what kind of watch? That's insane. You need more information. I know, and I would be curious, like, how your husband is responding. Is he making you feel suspicious of him?
Starting point is 01:03:26 Is this a crazy person or are these two people crazy together, you know? Yeah. No, and this is not your postpartum hormones. Like, there's definitely something weird going on. I'm just not sure what it is. Yeah. No, and if I saw that text, I would be like annoyed. Mift, I'd keep an eye. Of course. But I would ultimately let the text go because like, listen, you can't get crazy over everything. No, you can't, but it's weird.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Yeah, weird, but whatever. The gift is insane. Yeah, I also just want to say, because me and Ben have like had this argument before, I think that like single women texting married men is inappropriate. unless it's like, you know, my delivery driver and your order is here. Yeah. I would agree. I can't think of as, I guess outside of work stuff, I don't know why I would be texting a single or a married man. Outside of a work thing.
Starting point is 01:04:16 But I guess she considers this a work thing. No, and I know this is like, I'm going to sound crazy. But like anytime I need to talk to like one of Ben's friends, like I always put in chat with me, Ben and him or even the wife. Yeah. Yeah. Like what do we be doing texting a man, communicating with a man alone? It's weird. So inappropriate.
Starting point is 01:04:30 It is. is. Like whenever I have to wish someone a happy birthday, like, perfect example just happened like with my friend Nikki. I literally put in a chat, me, bed, Nikki and her husband. Like, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Well, when you're operating in couples, yeah, it's best to stay in the chat. Yeah, I just think that one-on-one communication between like two opposite gender. I think it's weird. Sorry, that's my toxic trait. You need a visibility. You need chaperones. You need visibility. Yes. Next up, our third and final. Hi, Swarley's. I love you both. I need advice. I'm getting married. My fiance and his family are Jewish. I am not.
Starting point is 01:05:01 important to note that they are not practicing, meaning they don't go to temple, but they celebrate all the holidays. I'm not converting, but I absolutely would if my fiance asked me to. For our wedding, my future mother-in-law is telling me that she gets a crowning ceremony at our reception. I'm a ever heard of this and I don't want to come across as difficult, but it feels like my hands are tied. If I say no, it seems like I'm against this Jewish tradition. If I say yes, but she hasn't even asked me yet but just told me it's happening. She gets a whole dedication at my reception. My question is, is this an actual Jewish tradition at weddings or does she want attention? I've never heard of that, have you? Oh yeah. It's called a mazinkle or mazinky or whatever. And I feel like it's being explained to you in a bad way. Like your mother-in-law's not getting a crowning ceremony. Basically, when parents have married.
Starting point is 01:05:51 off at a wedding, their final child. There's this cute little ceremony where all the kids put the parents like on chairs on the dance floor and their kids like dance around them and just like celebrate the fact that like all their children are now married and sort of their job as parents is done. I've been to a bunch of weddings where they do it. It's very sweet. That's cute. It's very cute.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Like it, I swear to God, it is not a crowning ceremony for your mother-in-law. That's an insane. She doesn't get a crown. And it's for both parents, mind you. Like it's literally, someone's explaining it to you. weird because it's actually really sweet. I've seen it at a bunch of weddings. It's just a cute moment like while people are eating. You can say a few words or not. It's just like a silly, almost like a skit. Like it's cute. You can obviously say no, but I do think it's like it's one of my,
Starting point is 01:06:34 I actually would like, I think it's one of like a very one of our most beautiful traditions. And it really highlights like the importance to parents. I think this is perfect because you could be like, I looked into the mizinkle. I think it's such like a cute idea. So then to get the right So then you tell her how it's going to go, when and where and how it's going to happen, if you're okay with it. But it sounds like you're open to a lot. It sounds like you're open to a lot of things. And I don't see why you would be like not want to do it.
Starting point is 01:07:02 But if you don't want to do it, you don't have to do it. But like it's not her getting a crowd. It's more cultural that it's not like an age old, you know, in the scribes. Like so you're not, it's not a part of our religion that you have to do. There are a couple of things at a Jewish wedding you have to do. Like Chevrobrasas. This is not something you have to do in observance with the law. it's a sweet tradition that's been passed down.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Like they used to do this, I think, in like the Stettles where it's like, yeah. It's such a relief when all your parents, especially parents of daughters. No, it's so cute. Get all their children married off that you just celebrate the parents. It's like a little moment. It's not meant to be like a crown.
Starting point is 01:07:34 That's insane. So like, so you should say I've looked into the tradition. It's like so beautiful. Like so this is when we're going to do it. This is how it's going to go. And you run the show. And it also shows that like you've studied up and that like you do care. And that is a real sign of respect.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Yeah, that is assuming that you're fine with doing it, which I think you will be once you hear what it is. And I know this is not what you wrote in about, but if you are open and curious about converting to Judaism, I just want to let you know you have my support. We would love to have you. You might relate to even more of this podcast, which is like a great reason to do it.
Starting point is 01:08:07 And just, I don't know if you were looking for a sign, but we would love to have you and you're more than welcome. Yeah, agree. That's our show, you guys. Jackson is headed to Dallas. So tomorrow she'll be tuned in from Gilles, which is a little Southern girl. Always fun to switch it up. We will see you then.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Thank you so much for listening to the Toastlinay morning show where we deliver the fast five stories. You need to know everybody through Friday and YouTube. So we're watching us on YouTube. Please don't forget to subscribe and give us video. We're also available as podcast. I'm going to find us. We found out of Spotify, iTunes, Twitter, Public Video. Right, cast, all the place with this to podcast, Minnesota 5.
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