The Toast - All's To Say: Wednesday, May 29th, 2024

Episode Date: May 29, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Chosen. Happy Wednesday. That's right, it's hump day. Don't forget to hump someone you love. Speaking of people I love, hey Jax, how you doing? I'm doing good, Latour Deleu. Excited for today's show. We have a lot on the docket. Vanderpump Rules was on last night. Yes, so a scheduling update, dear Toasters, has been pushed to tomorrow

because the grand finale of Vanderpump Rules, part three of the reunion, was on last night, so Jackie and I will be tackling that in today's TV recap in addition to just the Fast Five, catching up with the Swirly's, all the things going on. And it's going to be a great show. It really is. I texted you last night after Vanderpump Rules and of course you didn't answer me.

I didn't. Explain yourself. Remind me what you said again. I know it was about Vanderpump. I said VPR reunion part three was so good I'm locked in yeah you said part three had me locked in and I was like oh has Jackie had a lobotomy she doesn't talk like that and I had like watched it like two hours before you I like watched it live and I was just I had moved on I can't explain it okay rude yeah I had moved on Ben and I restarted

entourage um and I don't know I was just like, I was there, you know? You couldn't even like, I guess we're not these sort of people. Like, I don't feel like you need to respond to my texts if you don't actually have a response in your heart. Yeah. But you couldn't throw me a bone. But I don't want a bone thrown for bone's sake. And I figured like, we literally have designated time the next morning

to talk about it. So like, maybe we could talk about it there. But do you ever feel like, because it's all work, no play, like what if I just want to talk to you about the Vanderpump Rules reunion? Like you doing that and we're not recording is weird of you, no cap. I know, I know.

But it's also weird that I feel like we're on the reunion where they're talking about like things for the camera and not for the camera, but everything should be for the camera since this is our genuine lives. But then there should be things not for the camera. Oh my God, are we Vanderpump Rules? Jackie, we have plenty that's not for the camera since this is our genuine lives but then there should be things not for the camera oh my god are we Vanderpump Jacky we have plenty that's not for the camera okay we do have plenty um so we have that wait you texted me oh just really quickly so Ben and I restarted Entourage just because like we weren't in the mood to watch like a full movie

and we just wanted like an hour of tv before bed so we watched like three episodes of Entourage um ask me how many times they say the r word we watch like three episodes of Entourage. Ask me how many times they say the R word in the first three episodes of Entourage. At least seven. Yeah, you know that about Entourage and you've remarked on that before. Yeah, no, I think I even wrote about it in my book. It's really a testament to like

how things change so quickly. Because Entourage is still like a super relevant show. Yeah. It hasn't been cut out. And I think it's good. Like it's important to know we used to talk like that. And they call each other like the F slur because, you know know they're like toxic straight men like and they call each other like F like it's so crazy and what's so crazy that not enough people talk about I

totally forgot there was a time where like Sarah Foster was like a full-blown actress. She's in Entourage. She plays herself. Yeah she's in 90210. She plays Jen iconic but she's in an episode herself yeah she's in 90210 she plays Jen iconic but she's in um an ep like one of the early episodes of entourage playing herself and it's just like she's on Kimmel as like an actress just like doing Kimmel it's so crazy oh that's so fun also speaking of the f-slur did you see that the pope said the f-slur I did and pope drama is probably my favorite category of things to discuss. Like, of course, the famous liking of the bikini models Instagram from the Pope's account.

The famous puffer. I have to, the puffer, like really, truly, the AI generated puffer. I have to imagine it was like a lost in translation moment. Like what he meant in his language as gayness came off as effness i actually only saw the headline i didn't see a clip like was he speaking in english no the speak the pope doesn't speak english he's a stallion right so then he said the english slur word no okay let me tell you so because i guess i just want to say like i didn't see it the gay response to this is so funny like they're not really offended i don't think they think the pope is homophobic and you

know like the gay community especially i'm talking about like gay men they love the f word like they use it in their own community and i think they're loving this moment because it's given them like a new word to to use yeah um okay so the pope was quoted using the word f-r-o-c-i-a-g-g-i-n-e which in roman dialect it's roman italian dialect roughly translate to f-ness f-ness f the letter like i'm not gonna say the slur right like um i'll rhyme it shall i no no just f-ness what don't you understand the f-slur n-e-s-s f-slur do you know the f-slur i'm talking about it's not fuck yeah like i'm yeah a cigarette yeah yeah yeah yeah okay but then but they didn't use that miss oh i guess he did okay that's what the word translates to the italian word got it when i saw he saw the f word i thought he was speaking english but he was reiterating his opposition to gay men studying the

priesthood why i don't know. I feel like that's what we should be talking about. Like, obviously that word. I do think people are talking about everything that he said, but then the way it was distilled to like TikTok and there, it's about the word. Well, why can't the queers study for priesthood?

You'll have to watch his speech in Italian. Aren't priests celibate? Like, it doesn't even matter. Yeah. I just want to say, I don't feel like the gay community is, like, dying to become priests, but they should be allowed. I'm sure they're like, no, I'm all set, but. No, the Pope is just blunder after blunder.

Wild. I know. Kind of feels like the Pope needs crisis PR. Yeah. Yeah. And I think we just might be the gals to do it. You think so? I don't know enough. No, no, because we're also, like, Jewish. I don we just might be the gals to do it you think so no no because we're we're also like Jewish I don't know enough about the faith yeah and you know me I'm always confusing

Christian and Catholic which is really uncool of me I need to do better yeah that's but I know the Pope is Catholic the Pope is Catholic because that's like that phrase is the Pope Catholic affirmative affirmative yeah and of course I can't think is the Pope Catholic? Affirmative. Affirmative. Yeah. And of course, I can't think about the Pope without thinking about that movie. Which one? Eurotrip. If you can think about anything, well, I guess if you're like Catholic, you would think about other things, but they've elected a new Pope.

Yeah, that's not what I was thinking of, but that is, they have elected. It's up there for me. I think of, not some of not some great things. Really? Oh, of course, of course. I think of Spotlight. I think of The Keepers on Netflix. Yeah.

I think of this. This is a positive one, that sketch on SNL with Kevin Hart playing the new Pope. Yes, that's a great one. That's a good one. That's positive. Oh, yeah, I yeah relations there's kind of like it's i feel like the f slur is just sort of like the tip of the iceberg for the pope and his you know issues yeah so do better pope dbp bp dbp um so we've got a great show as we stated

and as i feel is obvious it's evident at point. Before we get into the great show that's stated there's something that we want to talk about. I want to talk about what's going on in the world in Israel in Gaza because there's a lot on social media and online and a lot that happened over the weekend and I kind of want to talk about all of it because I do feel like we've been vocal pro-Israel voices throughout this entire war. And right now, Israel is carrying out a military operation in Rafah, which is a heavily populated, densely populated area. They evacuated almost a million people into a safe zone so they could carry out their operation. And on Sunday, they targeted two Hamas leaders

in a very precise military strike. And they hit their target. and the investigation is still ongoing. But then shrapnel from that hit a munitions warehouse, a Hamas munitions warehouse that then started a fire in one of the camps where refugees like a safe zone, a safe zone where people were living and was expected to be safe and many people died in the fire terrible like really just upsetting awful like nobody wants that nobody wants to see that like that's not the desired outcome for anybody not for Israel like are it's it's so upsetting to see yeah especially because I feel like people who like are involved in this war who support Israel like have been really trying to show people like the lengths that Israel goes to to avoid things like this like civilian casualties are not a goal of Israel's

like it's really just a them trying to defend themselves and the ultimate goal for everyone like Palestinians included is to get rid of Hamas like that benefits everyone in the region so when something like this happens of course social media plays such like a crazy part in spreading information and mostly, you know, disinformation, misinformation. But I feel like as like long supporters of Israel, like we're always sharing like the lengths that they go to to avoid things like this. Like that's not, like you said, a desired outcome for Israel, for Israelis, for the IDF, for Palestinians, for anyone.

For anyone. And so quickly people are posting online, like, Israel bombed a humanitarian camp, like a UN safe zone. And that's not what happened. And it's spread this, like, blood libel around the world that this was, like, an intentional hit by Israel. And what happened... And if you're seeing this, like, message on social media, it's, like, all eyes on Rafa.

So that's what this is regarding. Right, and that's what it's been distilled down to. And I want- And if you're seeing this like message on social media, it's like all eyes on Rafa. So that's what this is regarding. Right. And that's what it's been distilled down to. And I want to talk about everyone posting that. But like, first, the immediate lie that's being told is that Israel did this intentionally. Like, no, Israel targeted legit military targets, terrorists well within international law.

It was over a mile away from the camp keeps their weapons and their people so entrenched in civilian populations and amongst innocent civilians their weapon munitions shouldn't be that close to a safe zone yeah so the per usual like there's one common enemy here and it's Hamas and Hamas doesn't care about civilian casualties on their own side. They don't care. Obviously, they intend for civilian casualties when they go into Israel. And it's just a really terrible situation. And now this lie is being perpetuated even further. You know, Israel's committing genocide. Israel's killing babies, which Israel does not do, and that is not the intention of Israel. They are in Gaza trying to get back the hostages

that were stolen from their beds on October 7th. I don't know why. Bodies of dead hostages have been recovered in Rafah. Right. That's why we're there. Since starting the military operation in Rafah, they've recovered seven hostage bodies. It's known that there are a lot of hostages who are being held there, and they are there to extract them. If that there are a lot of hostages who are being held there and they are there to extract them. If Hamas would turn over the hostages, this war could end, but they don't. So Israel has to go and get them. They're not there for no reason. It's so frustrating. And so seeing people, you know, using this as a way to just like smear Israel and the military per usual, and it's usually it's the same folks as usual who are

doing it. But now it's like reach this level where I feel like people who don't know a lot about what's going on and don't speak on it because they don't know, feel like they have to because everybody else is posting the same thing. And so now everybody's posting this all eyes on Rafa graphic. And I think for a lot of people who haven't said anything, they saw what happened on Sunday. And it's, you know, it's terrible on all counts. And they want to show that they care. And so they post this like with no context, without knowing what it means. And I think it's one of the few graphics that's not calling for the express genocide of the Jews, not from the river to the sea. So it feels like a safe thing to post post but they have no idea what they're saying and what it means and how it contributes to this lie against Israel and I just feel like all these people who

are so quick to assume the worst about the IDF and like don't realize like the lengths that they go to to make sure things like to try and make sure that things like this don't happen but it's an it's an impossible warfare situation this urban warfare where the usually when two armies fight against each other like they fight on a battlefield right Hamas has made that impossible their soldiers living civilian clothes they they hide weapons under children's beds like this is not normal warfare like it's Israel's in an impossible situation fighting for their life fighting for their life and so I think I saw a message someone was like are you going to say anything like actual beheaded babies and people burned alive I'm like what do you mean

actual like someone who sends that is not a serious person because what do you mean actual as if October 7th that's not what happened it's also really I think like difficult to talk about because you know it's happening so far away and like you know you you get used to like having these conversations and it feels so weird because like we're talking about human beings like these are real people and I think like what people really don't understand especially people who are like critical of Israel and the Jewish people is like such a core um value in Judaism is like the preservation and the celebration of life. Like, there's, like, that quote from the Talmud that's, like, to save a life is to save a thousand.

So I think when people, like, don't really understand and they just kind of believe everything that they read, it kind of paints this brush where it's, like, Jewish people, supporters of Israel, people in Israel, like, don't give a fuck about who lives or who dies in Palestine and like that couldn't be further from the truth and civilian casualties and Israel has had many in Palestine has had they're terrible and they're of equal value and I think to assume that anyone who doesn't see both um civilians as equally valuable like that's wrong and that's just not where it's like that I know and that's and that's what's so crazy about social media is you become so desensitized and you're like talking about you see people referring to human beings like that and it's wrong and it makes it difficult because like we feel so staunchly

defensive of Israel and it makes it really difficult to talk about because these are human beings like these are people who've passed away and it's really sad no matter who it is and then there's this other added element like you said where it's like Israel and the Jewish people feel like we're you know defending our right to exist right yeah no that's what it is if Hamas has expressly called for genocide against the Jews Israel has never not once goes out of their way to minimize civilian casualties Hamas goes out of their way to maximize civilian casualties civilian casualties are the point and this is like a cycle and in this war in particular but all wars in Hamas it's kind of like

what they do and I think it's important to remember in October um a bomb went off in um a hospital Al Ali hospital and immediately it came out in Gaza in Gaza it said that the you know the hospital is the hospital was hit no no and that it's completely in rubble it's like completely gone 500 people died and this was in an Israeli airstrike and it was everywhere the New York Times like within 30 seconds it's impossible to know that information in that short amount of time but it was everywhere it was fact and like within two days it was completely refuted one the rocket did not come from Israel actually came from within Gaza from another terrorist organization trying to hit Israel, but it fell short. It hit the hospital. 500 people did not die. 50 did, which is still horrible. Like, I hate to

even say that, like, it's minimizing, but it also didn't hit the hospital. The hospital was still standing. The picture that was going around was fake, and it hit the parking lot. So within, you have to remember, like, so much of the information that's coming out of Gaza aren't coming from the civilians. It's coming from, you know, these Hamas run organizations. So to take these, you know, lies as facts and run with them and pull them everywhere on social media and report it as fact, it's so damaging, but it's also just a lie. Yes, it is. And you have to ask yourself like why some people are so quick to believe the lies about Israel, but won't believe or look at the things that are the hours of footage from October 7th, the things that are completely factual, things that did happen. There's footage from both sides. They filmed themselves.

And you still won't, like, look at it and accept that this happened. You're calling it propaganda. And now that Israel has to go and fight a war to defend themselves. I also just want to talk for one second about the influencers. Yeah. Because I think a lot of influencers listen to this podcast. And I think our audience that we're talking to are pretty sound of mind in general. But I do feel like in this moment, a lot of influencers feel pressure to post something.

And as I said, like that all eyes on Rafa graphic like looks safe. Because they saw something terrible that happened. They want to say something and as I said like that all eyes on Rafa graphic like looks safe because they saw something terrible that happened they want to say something and I feel like on October 7th I really felt so strongly people need something terrible happened like speak out and and people weren't speaking out and by since then like my bar has lowered and now my bar is like if you don't know what's going on like please don't wait in don't say anything and certainly if you didn't say anything when like Jews were murdered in their sleep raped to death beaten taken hostage like if you didn't babies kids if you didn't say anything then then

like now's not certainly seven months in to say hey like I care because no if you're if you're entering the conversation now when things are so complicated we're in the middle of a war and you were nowhere to be found on October 8th like to me your intentions are quite clear yeah I don't take anything you say seriously because obviously like the death of Jews means nothing to you and that's great so shut the fuck up. Right and I just want to share something that I saw like an influencer post who clearly just like wanted to get involved. Well meaning. Show people that she is watching the news and so she posts this graphic. Even the first three words of this graphic before I even get into the lies of what it says. It says Israeli occupation forces. Okay, let's just talk, if you see Israeli occupation

forces, this person probably didn't even read the graphic, but Israeli occupation forces, no, it's called the Israeli Defense Forces. That's the name of the Israeli military, the IDF. If you are calling it the Israeli occupation force, then you believe that Israel is occupying the land of Israel, that the Jews do not have a right to live in the land of Israel, and that the Jews should be ethnically cleansed from Israel. That's in the first three words. That's what you just said. Is that what you mean?

Probably not. So don't post this shit. Yeah, no. The social media activism adds like a really crazy layer where people just want to post something because, and it's been,

you know, proven that a lot of like the pro-Hamas rhetoric is, you know, supplied by like bot farms. So there's all these like fake accounts sending messages

to the, you know, people with a lot of followers and this girl who's just trying to post her family and her clothes getting all these messages like

you support beheaded children like it I can understand how we get to a point in influencer culture what do I post to show these people that I don't support that of course and also it's like you know you could post that and really you're not going to get a lot of hate because like that's not what our side does is like hate and target and go off in that way yeah but if you post anything remotely defensive of Israel that's what the other side does so who really who what sane person wants to invite that into their little internet world no one but the thing is, you've got to be a little stronger than that at the most and smarter than that at the least. How about just don't say anything that you don't know about when there are so many global conflicts going on in the world

at any given time. Historically, since you've been on Instagram, you didn't speak on them. Hundreds of thousands of people murdered. Genocide, slavery slavery human trafficking nothing from you but when the Jewish state needs to defend itself from the genocidal psychopaths living next door now you've got a problem yeah it feels um futile like when it does And like I don't even sometimes like want to talk about it because it feels like a David and Goliath sort of situation right? Like you see how many shares

are on the one graphic and how many shares are on the other graphic. It does feel that way and and I'm starting to feel like it's not my job anymore because you right because the people who don't believe that Israel is really well intended in this and like doing their best for the safety of everyone in the region everyone not just Jews there are millions of other people who live in Israel in the surrounding areas and like Israel's stability is good for the stability of the realm the region their best for everyone I cannot keep explaining that to you if not you toasters because I feel like you get it I just want to say I don't know when the next time we'll talk about this is but like I feel like you where it feels futile I'm starting to feel like it's not my job to explain everything anymore if you

keep jumping to the worst conclusions about Israel you need to ask yourself inward yeah you if you really are taking the word of a terrorist organization so much more easily than you're believing like the democratic nation in the area that's under a microscope you need to ask yourself why also like we said it's war and it's horrible and terrible things happen and i think you know even in this war in particular there have been incidents where like israel fucked up and like accidentally killed civilians which is so and they have immediately taken like there's a track record they've immediately taken responsibility like what happened at that um kitchen yeah they came out immediately and released a statement being like shit like that was a fuck up on our like we take responsibility

so when that had there there is a there's a track record there's a paper trail of when things have not gone the way that israel intended them taking full responsibility do you think that they would intentionally set fire to a humanitarian camp that they've been urging people for months to move to took the time do you think they would drop it 2,000 pound bomb 50,000 people to yeah it's like and knowing they're under this microscope knowing that their actions then have consequences for jews living all around the world do you think that like let's just be apply logic here that's not something they would do. And if you look at history, and even in the last year since this started, any time that there has been an accidental loss of civilian life,

Israel has immediately taken responsibility for it. So they haven't done that here because that was not their goal. They dropped two small strikes on two Hamas leaders. The bombs were like 30-pound mountains. There was actually an intercepted call that was posted. I think the IDF shared it from like two Hamas militants talking about how it was their weapons and munitions warehouse that. What are you doing putting thousands of weapons in a humanitarian zone?

You're obviously not a good faith actor. Well, that's the point. They're not. Duh. To keep operating and people who are like thinking that in some way this is a fair fight. It's not so just be uh

you know what's the word i'm looking for not critical but you know everything you see on social media like question it also i'm sure people will um bring this up but there's also another like lie that's going on so the president of israel or the prime minister not to nyahu he like released a statement when this happened because this is a tragedy. Of course. And he was expressing that and he did so in Hebrew. And he used a word that then English, he said this was a terrible, I forget the Hebrew word, but he used the word that translates to mishap. This was a terrible mishap.

And some reporter translated it as mistake. This was a terrible mistake.ap and some the reporter translated it as mistake this was a terrible mistake and then that all goes all around around you know that Israel has claimed that this was a mistake and that they did this and that's not even the word that he used because that's not what happened but then that's out there so people will be like no nothing I already Israel said they did it Israel said they did it Israel did not do it and nor did they say that they do it and the and the investigation is still ongoing because like these things take time to suss out what exactly happened. Yeah. I just think it's really hard to talk about when, you know, we feel so strongly and in support of like Israel's right to exist and their right to defend themselves. But then at

the end of the day, like, you know, at the hands of Hamas, like so many people have died, Israelis and Palestinians. And if at the end of the day, you aren't laying blame on the terrorist group in the region, like you obviously have some stronger issues inside that you need to work on. But like, it's just so sad, you know? It is so sad. It keeps coming back to this, even with the aid, like when aid is donated, Hamas seizes it. They will, they shoot people. There are videos, they shoot people

who run up to the trucks and try to get water themselves. And so when you're donating to some of these organizations, you are literally donating to the terrorists. And the best way to help them is to help eradicate the terrorist organization in the region. And I think like a criticism that I've seen of myself and the Tosa is like, we attack anyone who supports Israel.

And that just, I mean, excuse me, who supports Palestine and Palestinian lives. And that couldn't be further from the truth. And so I think what Jackie just said is so important. I'm not mad that you want to raise money for civilians in Palestine. We all do. Right, like I can understand the reflex. to raise money for civilians in Palestine. We all do. There's a 0% chance that the money you raised actually makes its way into the hands of an innocent Palestinian civilian. Hamas has so embedded themselves in every, the Gaza Ministry of Health, that's Hamas. They've embedded themselves

into the the red, the UN. Red Cross hasn't visited any, um, the hostage bodies were living in a UN teachers, UN refugee association building. Like they are everyone. I can understand seeing a video, a horrible video. And your reflex is to help. And you're over here. And what can I do? And I want to send money.

And that makes you feel good. But like it's causing more harm because you are like arming and feeding terrorists so that they can continue to do what they do, which is kill people. And there are, you know, civilians in Palestine, like, starving, and they have no water. And I think people are immediately, you know, blame Israel for that. But if you knew the hundreds of trucks that enter Gaza every day, zero of it makes, zero of the aid, zero of the money, zero of the water, zero of the food makes it to the actual civilians who are starving. Yeah.

So that's where I think the criticism comes from. It's not this lack of empathy or lack of care for the people living there. Like they're human beings. Yeah. But I think when you, there's a problem and I think a lot of people are misdiagnosing the problem. Yeah, exactly. And it's actually going to exacerbate the problem. I think that Bill Maher went on The View and did like a really, really good job of explaining it.

I, like it was one of my favorite interviews. And if you're looking for more, you know, things to watch, I liked that a lot. Yeah. things to watch. I liked that a lot. Yeah. So as always like it's hard to have these conversations because it's so personal to Jackie and I and we definitely feel this like responsibility but at the end of the day like that the point of the show this is supposed to be joyous and we're not supposed to be talking about these like terrible you know tragedies going on in the world and so the goal of this show has and always will be to bring light and joy and positivity and we will continue to do that but I think today in particular like

felt especially you know like an obligation almost an obligation because I think a lot of like a lot of well-meaning people are like wait what happened and and why aren't the girls talking about it so just wanted to touch on it it's hard to like then pivot you know so but that that is what we do yeah and so we shall okay and I guess without further ado I guess like it's there's no good way to do it But that's sort of what we do here. Dark, light. Like, we're just here to bring joy. So let's just get this really uncomfortable segue over with. Yes.

And perhaps diving. And go into the Fast Five stories. Or is there anything else you wanted to catch us up on? Oh, was there anything else about me? From TD, Turdy's Day. I went for a run. Mazel. Thank you so much. It wasn't my my best I'm starting a 12-week

running like program um so it was day one and so it's kind of like resetting it was like two minute running one minute walking which like that's old turdy like that's you know do you find it hard to hold yourself back no actually because I took a two-week break from running and it's crazy when you don't run like you stop becoming a runner like I was seriously panting out of breath I thought I was gonna throw up damn yeah you have any sourdough yesterday people are equating like your journey with sourdough and my journey with running like are two like annoying personalities but I just want to say and a lot I just I want to say something like I see the I see the comments even like turny did such a good job of pretending

she cares like first of all eat my ass like I love my sister and yes even when she talks about things that bore me to tears like I still care I'm just like not like you know peppering her with questions and with sourdough like I actually care you think I don't care about bread that you were pretending to care and I can sometimes feel when you are pretending but I think it's more so like it's not about what I'm doing I don't know if there would be anything that I could be like doing that you're not doing that you would care so deeply about I think it's more so like you know just turdy cares about turdy things more than non-turdy things but I resented especially with the sourdough because I feel like I'm actually into the sourdough conversation like I love bread I felt like yesterday you were you were into the conversation you were peppering me

with questions yeah and also like when you sent me that picture of your bed like it was sick like it was sick so the excitement was palpable. Yeah. Oh my God. Do you know something I've been saying recently that I don't know where I picked it up from, but I need to stop. Do you notice it? What? Sick?

Let's go. Like I mostly in text messages. Like first of all, when I was in my golf lesson, every time I like did it, good shot. I was like, let's go. You know where you probably got it from? Where? Going to the Knicks game. Actually, maybe.

Because when you sent that picture of your bread, you were like, I did it. I was like, let's go. And then also, I've been texting with Dog Friendly Living about like Romeo's journey. And she's sending updates. We're sending updates. And every time there's a positive update,

I'm like, let's go. There's worse things to say than that. I know, but it's like, where's my penis? Also, speaking of things that we say, I've been meaning to mention, you know how we've been saying all's to say? Mm-hmm. You know in Fortnite, she says the correct phrase,

which is, all of that to say. Well, okay, you're totally off pitch-wise, but it's, all of this to say. That's what she says. Right, that's the phrase. No, I feel like we're saying the phrase right. All's to say? No, I think right that's the phrase no I feel like the phrase we're saying the phrase right all's to say no I think the point is we're not really yeah all of this to say yeah I guess I guess it's just too many syllables too many words we respect bread. We respect toast. T-O-A-S-T. Well that's a great segue into our ads.

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Me? No. J.Lo's deal for $1 million per show, Las Vegas residency, is in jeopardy as her new album and concert tour are flopping. J.Lo was recently in talks for a $90 million Las Vegas residency, but the blockbuster deal now looks shaky at best as her new album and upcoming concert tour are flopping badly, the Post has learned.

The embattled pop diva, whose headline grabbing marriage to Ben Affleck is reportedly crumbling, recently had been in talks with MGM Grand on a guaranteed $1 million a show for 90 dates starting next year, a source claims. Wow, that's $90 million.

Yeah. But casino executives have lately grown skittish over abysmal ticket sales for her first tour in five years following the release of her This Is Me Now album in February, with poor demand having forced the cancellation of seven shows this summer. Yikes. Oh my God. We didn't even, I didn't even hear that update.

Seven shows have been canceled. Yeah. And then rival casino Resorts World upped the bidding for J-Lo to $875,000 per show in partnership with AEG. Soon after, MGM and Live Nation then swooped in with a million dollar per show offer for JLo but buyer's remorse has lately set in a sore set. MGM is watching her not doing well on the road. They are very nervous. It's pretty rare you have a poor tour and then go to Vegas. Okay I do agree with that however I feel like we've been talking

so much about JLo's career like how she's at this inflection point. And I think like whoever told her to release an album and then go on tour for that album, like seriously, she'd be fired. It's like read the room. But I don't know if that necessarily means that she wouldn't have a successful residency. First of all, when you think about the rooms for that residence residencies take place in, they're much smaller. It's not arenas. And she's going on an arena tour which is 20,000 people a Vegas residency is like two to three thousand people like Adele the theater wasn't that big Gaga wasn't that big so it's like because it takes place in a hotel so it's smaller venues first of all second of all I think if I think if her tour failing tells us anything it's like maybe she's ready for a residency do you know know what I mean? Yes, but it definitely like puts a smell on things.

And I just want to say. Of course, $90 million. JLo and Vegas, like handshaking emoji. Perfect. That's like the vibe of music you want to hear when you're in Vegas. Like she is so Vegas. That's where she's at in her career. She has so many hits.

And I think. Also the vibe of her show is so Vegas. Like lights, glitter, dancing. We saw the Super Bowl teaser. That's what it's going to be. So I think this is a great idea at any time however like I and I don't think that this will overall be affected but like she's going out on tour she's coming to your city and it's flopping still like it just it makes her being in Vegas less attractive to like the concert goer because it's like she's

not in a great moment right now but I still think like if she does her residency, like it'll get amazing. If she does it well, which she will, it will get amazing reviews. People will go, it will be really good. But I do think that like her doing a week sauce tour and album right before makes things less exciting. It's also really crazy to do a worldwide arena tour back to back with a residency.

Like that's not really what you do. There's, even if you're like at the top of your game like that's a lot of demand you know there's a lot of tickets to sell and JLo's not at the top of her game but I think what the major takeaway from people were these like with these like two movies slash documentaries that she released on Prime that people really like dragged her for was that like she kind of lives in her own world and like any sort of any person around her, they're very much coddling her. I don't think she really even knows at this point what the vibes are out there when it comes to her public perception. I think people around her protect her, which is good.

But it can get you into bad spots like selling arenas and nobody's buying tickets and you're canceling shows. Yeah, that's very true. It's also really crazy that she just released a documentary. she made a whole thing about how she had to finance her own movies and then amazon she bet on herself and like amazon like the person who wrote j-lo a check for prime video who put out a documentary called the greatest love story ever told and then one month later she's getting divorced like where's the accountability like does somebody get fired for that hmm i don't think so i just i think j-lo is a lover she loves hard and yeah I think it's actually on

brand for her to like have such a high love story she never says forever no and she actually says in her documentary she's been married four times like she loves being married she used to be really afraid of being alone like that's the type of honesty like I actually really appreciate I felt like her documentaries though like and that's what people's like takeaway was was like it was so not real. And you know what would be an actually good documentary? Like right now you're like having this moment. You're kind of at like a rock bottom of your career

and then you're going to take on this Vegas residency and you're going to put your whole fucking pussy into it. You're going to train. You're going to work hard. Very much like you know how Beyonce did like all the behind the scenes of like what she did for Netflix. What are you about to say?

You know what documentary that is. Halftime? Bet It All on Blonde, Erika Jayne. Oh, sure. The phoenix rising from the ashes, taking her talents to Vegas, starting again on her own. Like, that's a documentary worth making. Like, J-Lo in this sort of career low.

A comeback story. Everybody loves a comeback story. She's not even that low. By the way- Two back-to-back documentaries. It's like enough documentaries. And then she also had halftime on Netflix. It's like, seriously, enough.

First of all, she's not even that low, I just want to say. Like, she's still J-low. Second of all, you know what's also- I don't know. I think she's pretty low. You know what it's also reminding me of? What?

Like how Adele's Vegas residency got a little, got a little smelly before the kickoff with the pool and the cancellation. Yeah, but it was never about demand. No, but like still people, there was a bad taste. And she completely superseded the taste. Yes. Different issue.

Different issue. But there was a smelliness. Worse issue. It was a smelliness. Yeah, but J.Lo's issue is way worse. Like people not wanting to come. That's the baseline. Like, and that was and that was Adele yeah say what you want but people were so mad because they wanted to go so badly it's like the opposite no I know not the same issue but a little

bit of like not coming in on the best environment I do feel like you know obviously hindsight's 2020 and this is like an annoying thing of me to say but she never should have released this most recent album she never should have released those two prime video documentaries because like the jokes that were made about her from like two clips that went viral like I think really did damage especially with a younger audience and had she just like chilled and then announced his Vegas residency she'd be raking in 90 million dollars people would be going for sure and they would be talking about her insane showmanship that's what she's known for the dancing the outfits the vocals like she can put on a show. That's what she's known for. The dancing, the outfits, the vocals.

Like she can put on a show and that's what she's best known for. So it's not helpful of me to say this, but those documentaries really did badly for her. And the new music and the flop of the album really showed that people aren't interested in hearing new JLo music. They're just interested in the hits. And you can have a fabulous career on the hits. Celine Dion didn't release new music for like a big chunk of time and then she went through like great personal tragedy and of course inspiration struck and

speaking of documentaries and Celine Dion I am very much looking forward to that documentary. Yeah when does it drop? Apparently she is I think in June which is like kind of far away. It's in two days. Speaking her truth. Oh oh wow. Yeah May's only 30 days past September. Oh no, May's 31. I got another day of the month. That's exciting. But that's a documentary I'm looking forward to. Yeah. I'm not in my documentary mode right now. I'm really in my reality TV mode right now. Yeah, and you're in your historical movies mode.

I'm in my based on true story mode. Learning something new. Yeah, I think the movie I actually wanted to watch next, which I have seen, but like a million years ago is Pearl Harbor also because Ben and I were saying how like you know I'm I'm pretty caught up on like world events around World War II but I'm not really sure how Japan was involved you know like I know Hitler I know all of that but like question mark and not to sound so stupid but but like for many, many years, I thought like Pearl Harbor was World War I.

So I definitely, I have some work to do in learning. Well, it is two different theaters in the war. Like you are, I know the European front, front and back at this point, but the Pacific Theater, which also I know less of, but every time I like read something or watch something about that time, it was wild. I mean, like the book, The Rape of Nanking.

That's what I was going to bring up too. Every time you bring up that book, I'm like, you know what? I really need to learn more. Yeah. And then I also read a historical fiction, you know, romance novel set in World War II China because it was occupied by a lot of different forces. And then eventually Japan in the city that they were in it's very big territory The book was called the last rose of Shanghai

I would recommend it if you want to learn more in in a less serious capacity it was a Love story about a German Jew who fled to China and fell in love with a Chinese woman. It's very sweet. Yeah. And then, yeah, Pearl Harbor. Pearl Harbor. So I think that's maybe what I'll watch this weekend or tonight, depending on how much time I have.

That's a nice idea. Yeah, I'm kind of loving it. And that's also just like a very, that's a movie that launched a thousand careers. Ben Affleck. And a thousand ships, literally. Literally. Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah. Some romance news that tickled my fancy. What? Mary-Kate Olsen and Sean Avery sparked dating rumors after reuniting in the Hamptons over Memorial Day weekend. So, the headline says, this might be a case for the Olsen

and the Olsen Mystery Agency. I read that wrong. Olsen and Olsen Mystery Agency. Okay. that wrong. Olsen and Olsen Mystery Agency. Okay. They'll have any crime solved by dinnertime. Dinnertime. Mary Kate Olsen and Sean Avery sparked dating rumors after reuniting in the Hamptons over Memorial Day weekend.

What's reuniting? Did they used to date? So they, yeah, they were coupled up in 2007. That's a really long time ago though. So it's kind of giving me like, we used to date, didn't work out, now we're friends. Cause then they were also spotted hanging with Andy Cohen that day and so I feel like it might not be romantic it might be friendship so is this the twin who just got divorced from that old man

who was then spotted with Luann Luann's man yeah even though that allegedly has fizzled I refuse to believe it no because that's a really like you know it's right person wrong time. What if I just like lived in a world where I believe that Luann and Olivia are still together? Like it would never actually affect me. I don't know them. I would never like why can't I just choose to believe that they're in love? Why can't you just create your own joy? Create my own reality. Yeah like it it literally makes no difference. And they're truly perfect for one another. I don't know how Luann fumbled the ball on that because like that that was her moment like that was it it was but now Mary Kate's having her moment so she was going into her the rose store in Amagansett this weekend Sean Avery was with her nothing they were doing looked romantic other than the fact that they're two

eligible single people who at one point and they used to date right I love this like I need these two to date and I just don't know seriously how you can be sexually attracted to Olivier and Sean like the two cannot be more different but I love this pairing like I'm so ready for the MK and A sisters to like be back in the fold of pop culture like be like they were both really settled for a while business booming you know relationships very stable and now like yeah date the hot hockey player. Like, love that. Love that. Did you see the pictures? Yeah, I'm obsessed. He's so hot. Yeah, he is. And I've seen him on Watch What Happens Live. He's got personality for days. Yeah, he's like best friends with Andy. And I remember reading in one of Andy's books how they became friends

was like kind of weird. There was like, oh, they were literally in like the same room once. They didn't even know each other. And then it was like being reported that Sean Avery was gay and he was dating Andy. And it was just like Andy and him literally became like best friends from that so cute yeah I love this I really hope that they're dating I love when some and there's no better way to like seriously get back in an ex than the next person you date being like a long lost love of yours very Morgan Stewart McGraw coded very like I never got over him. You meant nothing to me. No, literally like you're irrelevant. You were in the way.

It's very much like Taylor Swift going back to Mattie Healy. Yeah, that's definitely a blow. To who? Joe. Oh, duh. Like was thinking about him the whole time. Right. No, it makes you question like seriously the last X amount of years.

It's a power move. Everyone should do it even if they don't like that person. like yeah for a minute just if you really hate your ex yeah i agree also speaking of the hamptons girly swirly live tour this summer west hampton beach performing arts center come see our girls it's it's not cool of you to like promote a show that has no tickets left. Like there's none. Well, we are excited to see those of you who are coming. There are like 11 tickets left to the August 1st and 2nd shows at the Beacon Theater. But like that was when I checked yesterday. I don't know. Like there may be seven left.

I don't know. Like we don't even need to promote it because we're so into band. Yeah. So anyways. I'm going to really quickly. Like one of the biggest wedgies and it's like cutting off the circulation of my labia. I'm just going to quickly hop off camera, pick my wedgie, but feel free to read the next story.

OK, hop away. I'm not going to read the next story yet because it's so personal to both you and I that I need my girlies full attention. But I also respect you doing what you have to do because seriously, is there a worse feeling? I do not think so. She's back. No worries. How do you feel better a little bit like it's just there's a lot going on down there between the bodysuit you know yeah well our next story is for you and I as I said because it's a celebrity it's a celebrity admitting to their ozempic usage who and it's one of my favorite people i could give you guesses but

i don't know we already spoke about kelly okay one of my favorite reality stars i could give a big clue one of the few people to be on two bravo shows and it's not page that's what i was thinking i'm like page is on ozempic who caroline Caroline Stanberry. Oh! Yeah, my queen. So, The Real Housewives of Dubai star Caroline Stanberry. Dubart. Starbart. I feel like I've had a lot of verbal blunders in this episode. Just skirt past, okay?

I have also not said anything, and I feel like I deserve some sort of award for that. You really do. But you've under, as long as I'm like decipherable. Making sense. And you know what I'm saying, I think it's okay. I think so too. But Real Housewives of Dubai star Caroline Stanberry says she used Ozempic to lose weight.

So she's speaking out about her use of Ozempic. She said in a recent episode of her podcast that she used Ozempic to lose weight during a midlife crisis she experienced at 45. In a video posted from the episode on Instagram, she said, after 40, we all know it's very, very hard to lose weight, but I met so many 40-year-old women going, how have you done it? And I don't want to lie to you, I used Ozempic, which I think is one of the best tools if you're able to use it. What did Kate Moss say? Nothing tastes as good as skinny

feels. There's something to be said for that. Like, just love the casualty in which, I can't wait to get to a point where it's like not this like grand admission it's just like I had a headache I took Advil I gained some weight I took Ozempic like I I'm looking forward to that day but people like Caroline just being like super casual and chill about it we love right and I also think Ozempic like the perception and dialogue about Ozempic like has come so far even in the last six months in the last year and originally it was like this is only for diabetes people you're taking it away from someone who needs it and now like most people who have obesity or are severely overweight like everyone's okay with them taking

it but I do think the last frontier of this conversation are the people who are taking it to lose the last 10-15 pounds to become the person that they they either were in the past or that they want to be or whatever it is. People have reasons for gaining a couple pounds and having a really hard time losing them. And so when Dr. Giese and I did the episode, she talked a lot about that because what she like does research on, she has like a study going on for people who need to lose like 10 to 15 pounds, which obviously like wasn't the intended goal with Ozempic. It was people who really need to lose like 40 or more pounds. But she like wasn't the intended goal with Ozempic. It was people who really need to lose like 40 or more pounds. But she's doing a study on like the health indications for just losing 10 pounds,

like not significant, not life-changing weight. And especially for older women, your risk of like cardiovascular issues, she was saying goes down. She talked about it on the Patreon if you guys want to go listen to it. That's like something she was really doing a lot of work and and research on she said there were so many health benefits for older women just losing 10 pounds which like when people are like you need a zambic to lose 10 pounds it's not for you well maybe it could be down the line when it becomes more hopefully accessible and affordable for everyone um and i thought it was really interesting the like you would think 10 pounds

is like 10 pounds like who cares but the research that she was doing showed like enormous, like life-changing health benefits, like adding years to your life. Yeah. And I think the health benefits are so great. And I feel like some people might need to hear that in order to be okay with people taking Ozempic like at that size. But I think also it completely changes your life to like lose that last 10 or 15 pounds, whether it's from gaining weight, like from being pregnant or just, you know know getting to an age in your life where like you can't lose that weight and I feel like people who want to be mad at ozempic usage have now like taken all their ire out on like those celebrities

who are thin and are staying thin because they're using ozempic and I think that actually Caroline sharing this is is different from the other people who have shared yes and it's kind of green lighting people to use it in a way so that they can actually feel their best and live their best and that changes your life yeah like of course a dramatic weight loss changes your life but like finally losing like that weight that's been like nagging you all those years you haven't got a new lease on life everyone deserves that yeah there's like eight different conversations going on when it comes to ozambic i feel like the main one that's finally being had more and i think the most important one is like the one that was had between like whoopi goldberg and kelly clarkson on the kelly clarkson show like just years and years of severe

weight gain that like you seriously get like the you know acknowledging obesity as a disease and not just like stop eating shame, and the weight loss revolution. Exactly. So I feel like that's the most important conversation when it comes to Ozempic. And it's finally being had in like a way that's just so real. And like people like Kelly, just doing it in a way like, and Whoopi Goldberg, doing it in a way that's so relatable, I feel like is so important. And then, you know, people like Caroline Stanberry, feeling comfortable to share and like just being so casual about it. That's also another conversation to be had. So I definitely feel like a difference has been made in how we're talking about it.

I think we still have a lot to do. And I will say this a thousand times. People with eating disorders in the eating disorders community need to just take themselves out of the conversation permanently because it's not about you and you're not the only people who have weight issues. There are other weight issues and those are valid too. They're just different than yours. So I think we've made great progress. Yes, I agree. And am I wrong to think that the shortages have gotten better? Like it seems like the drug is more accessible

these days than it was, you know, six months ago when people couldn't get it. Now the real issue for a lot of people is the affordability of it. It's not covered by insurance, and that's a huge problem because people aren't having problems getting prescriptions. They're not having problems getting their prescriptions filled. They're having problems getting their insurance to cover it, and if not, it's $1,000 a month. Right, and insurance only covers it if you have diabetes, correct? Or if your blood work comes back at a level that it's concerning.

Yes, and I know people who people who a can't get it covered even though they are severely obese and have bad blood work like they still don't have that diet like it's like they're waiting for people to get diagnosed with diabetes before they want to help them it's such a shame because people who are severely overweight are on their way to having diabetes so why don't we just help them now instead of in a year right um but yeah it's the pricing and it's and people go to crazy lanes and that's what's so annoying and that's what dr gizzi was saying she was like i see on tiktok like people like selling like ozempic whatever like dupes it's so dangerous like and some of these med spas like going to like these rancid like fake compound

pharmacies selling fake things and you're in just injecting that so the lack of accessibility and the lack of affordability is making people go crazy and then you hear woman dies well she wasn't actually taking ozempic she was you know forced to go like to some back-alley med spa and get some shit injected in her ass like that's where it's they're doing people such a disservice and that's where it really gets dangerous yeah so that's the next frontier, I think. Yes. Is, is tackling like the fact that insurance companies don't cover it.

Either insurance not covering or the price of the drug, because really what's the price of the drug? Right. It's a thousand, a thousand dollars a month. Right. And that's why people literally, if you go to Mexico and like in the pharmacy, in the airport, like you can literally buy Ozepic, it's $300 for a for a month which is still insane but it's a quarter of the price so people are like doing you know everything they can yeah okay well my queen stays winning stays winning are you ready

oh speaking of um reality tv in London I told you this the weekend that I started watching. You told me that you hit an all time low. I did because you guys know I love, I actually really like trash reality TV. I don't know what it is about me. I started watching Selling London. I guess they brought Selling Sunset to London and I figured it's made for me.

It was okay, it was interesting to see the actual real estate though because it's a mix of historical structures uh structures but then the interior is like super modern and I liked learning about like the different neighborhoods like literally they're selling a house in Belgravia like the show hello yeah yeah yeah what are they gonna sell like Downton Abbey next right right right so that was I guess that is interesting I don't know if I'll go back but if I like I wanted something mindless so that's what I watched and in the absence of Ladies of London, all's to say. All's to say.

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Thank you, Jax. Now I'm so looking forward to what this Huggies inspired story could possibly be. As stated, the Huggies diapers at the moment have Simba on them. And Simba's really been in the news because of Northwest. Yes, yes. And something that we talked about yesterday that needed to be a story in order to be cleared up is you know the TikTok of the mom talking about how she took her daughter to the audition there were three girls up for the role Kim Kardashian walked into the room with Northwest and all of a sudden the audition process was over that was not true so the mom went on tiktok and made like another video talking to the camera that people said they wanted to hear her daughter singing

so she said my daughter's been cats in off-broadway rendition of aristocats and here she is and it's a cat and she made up the whole thing you're fucking lying no and now that i think about it why about that yeah why the fuck would Kim go to an audition that's like the whole point of nepotism is like you don't have to you don't have to and the way she was talking in that video like I kind of forgot about it because I was more interested in what she was saying but I'm pretty sure the whole thing was a joke right right I kind of love that no I kind of love it it's a such a good reminder that just because someone says something like that doesn't make it true.

Oh, on TikTok, but, like, why did we just believe this person? Yeah, like, proof, receipts, proof, timeline. Nothing. Yeah, no, I think it really speaks to, like, wildfire. That's how things work on the internet. And then it really, and it's, like, funny and whatever, but, like, it did send a lot of hate the way of a young girl. Like, it's, like, it's like funny and whatever but like it did send a lot of hate the way of a young girl like it's like it's not funny yeah but I think the hate was already there there and I

I don't know what this person's intention was but to me like it just proved this point I actually don't think this person had bad intentions I think they thought everyone would understand that it was a joke because also when you think back on the video the way she was talking was like kind of funny yeah now even as I'm saying so I watched Because also when you think back on the video, the way she was talking was like kind of funny. Yeah. And now even as I'm saying, so I watched her whole video and she pants to the cat and the cat is singing like, I just can't wait to be king or whatever.

So all's to say like she didn't actually have a child that went through the audition process. Like, right? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, the girlfriend humor is very confusing. It's such a wild thing. Oh, I just can't wait to be king.

Oh, flat. Yeah, and also, like, why would Kim walk with North into the audition room at the same time that, like, the common people are auditioning? No, the whole point of nepotism is, like, you don't go through those sort of, you know, common practices. Like, the director comes to you and honestly this

is a really teachable moment now I fell for it I took her at her word however like my reaction I don't think was the intended reaction of like ire towards the situation so I don't feel like totally gotten but I do I did get got by just believing her because like that's what you do you just believe people so like why wouldn't we I don't want to become more cynical I know but I do think you have to be more critical you have to think critically but like who's gonna watch that video and be like she's lying no like who's gonna lie about that like it's so fucking random I know but I think it proves an important point of course that's kind of the theme of today's episode with the pope AI generated puffer right bring it back it reminds me of when

Tanya Zuckerbrot was like in that oh my god that feels like a factor that feels like six years ago was that during COVID yeah I think so so maybe yeah like five years ago but people were saying like her products were giving them miscarriages and then like literally it was a lie so yeah the person who went after her emily gallus was just like posting what people were saying like people would message her and be like x factor gave me blah blah diarrhea and so one person like as an experiment sent into her like a factor made me have a miscarriage and she immediately posted it without verifying anything and then the person who sent it in was like, I sent it in. It's not true. And it just goes to show you how you cannot believe what people just send you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, that's just, I think, a whole conversation about Instagram journalism. Yeah. But I think it just proves the same point of, like, people can just say anything. And, like, just because you say it doesn't mean it's true. Well, and that reminds me of things I've been wanting to say. I am a model. Mm. But it's true well and that reminds me of things i've been wanting to say i am a model but it is true i know that's why i said it yeah but no that's like not you have to say an untruth

like someone messaged me recently about like some company they're like the ceo is a bad guy no proof no nothing what right what i don't know you either well that's also then a conversation about labels like we're so crazy like he's uh whatever like and then those words end up losing their meaning and it's actually really damaging but that's also another conversation about how we abuse language yeah oh oh for sure but it's like you could just say something about someone I guess because we're just you know believing and that's a good quality to have belief like to be not naive but just like not so cynical I don't know but people they're taking advantage yeah but I don't know if that was what her intention was here I know I think she was trying to be funny and I think she like fell down a slippery slope such a niche brand of humor for

sure and anyways went over my head people owe north an apology they do also like imagine kim watching that the when it first came out not knowing that this woman like was playing a prank and then being like you're a fucking liar but how can she even go and say that this person's liar because everyone would be like you're maligning someone whose daughter was working hard for the role. You're attacking a mother. Yeah. Like, there's no winning. Yeah, no.

And meanwhile, it's a cat. It's always the cats. That's funny. Well, I don't want to go there. Are you ready for our fifth and final story, which is actually a story that you had told me about that needs discussing? What? It's a little pet news because a woman who paid

for her sick dog to be put down is shocked to find out now that the healthy pup is up for adoption and she's not getting it back i just want to say to everyone who sent me this story like why well like i have just now put to bed like my worries and concerns that something like this happened to me you guys know when i put theo down like I left the room before like the second shot was administered I was there for the first shot but he was still technically alive and I was like kind of having anxiety about it over the coming weeks part of my grief was like oh my god what if literally like somebody took him home and like is keeping him as a sex slave in their dungeon like and I've just now recently come to terms with the fact like Theo's totally dead especially because I did not

request his remains I said like whatever you do with them, just do. I don't need. So I like no proof of death, if you will. Right. And I guess neither did this woman because she was shocked to discover that her sick dog that she took to be euthanized was back at the shelter and up for adoption a year later. She was heartbroken when she was told that the most humane thing she could do for her beloved pet was to put him down. She said she paid up $450 to adopt her pup from the Lost Dog and Cat Rescue Foundation in 2022. She was almost always by his side, the dog,

but then she discovered something was wrong. Blood tests showed that he had a liver problem, but medications failed to lead to any improvements. The dog's vet, the clinic's lead doctor, and animal emergency room vet eventually all agreed that the poor pup's symptoms pointed to severe neurological problem. She said that she was told that further tests would cost twelve thousand dollars but would only provide a very slim chance of finding out what's wrong and even smaller chance of it being something that doctors could fix so she was ready to pay that twelve thousand dollars but like not it would

would likely be for nothing running out of viable options she was told that euthanizing the puppy would be best she held out for another month hoping his symptoms would lessen but eventually decided to take the vet's advice and put him down so she did that and then in late March she was told that the shelter's policy does not allow pet owners to stay in the room with their pets as they're put down so she said goodbye and walked out of the office about that's a policy Yeah about a year after the situation she considered getting another dog and decided to take a peek at the rescue's website the original one when she was visiting family back home. She was shocked earlier this month when she spotted a dog who looked identical to Bo just a bit bigger with the same name he had been given at the shelter when she

first fell in love with him in 2022. She quickly called the shelter and received confirmation that her dog had not been euthanized after veterinarians there deemed him healthy enough to be saved. The shelter instead returned the puppy to the rescue, which confirmed in a statement that its vets found no neurological issues with the dog. Instead, the vets diagnosed the animal with a liver problem and declared him healthy after a $7,000 surgery. She claims it took several days to get anyone from rescue on the phone to explain what happened and was hurt by the rudeness she was treated with when she did finally talk to someone okay like the crazy thing about

this story is that there's oddly a happy ending like her dog is healthy and she can be reunited with him like yeah so and so like imagine someone you thought was dead a year later is alive and healthy wait but now they're giving her an issue about reuniting with him um they're saying the person on the phone was saying that i abandoned him and left him to die that i never cared about him she was claimed that the dog will never go back to her before the person hung up on her ldcrf does not rehome an owner surrendered dog with its former adopter owner our mission is to save adoptable and safe to the community dogs from euthanasia okay by the way so they're like low-key the villains in this and they're like trying to point the finger at this girl and by the way I didn't I don't know this because like

I have never up until recently put a dog down so I don't have like a ton of experience but I'm pretty sure like them not letting you be in the room is like very weird it's very weird and isn't the point of like the shelter and adopting dogs is like to for the dogs to find homes so like if this is like some backdoor scheme to like get more dogs and recycle the dogs. Right, you're basically getting someone to pay for a dog twice. Right, which like you're in the for-profit dog business industry. And like why wasn't he using, like why didn't the needle go in in that very moment?

Right, because who's fault is that? It's giving like the hospital has some sort of backdoor deal with the shelter and double dipping like diagnosing healthy dogs pretending to put them down then putting them back in the shelter so you can instead make you know 450 from a dog you can make 900 from a dog that's so crazy no this is really crazy although like and i i would like to keep following up on this story because i would like this girl to get her dog back like that would be so crazy yeah but that's what the rescue spokesperson said in a statement like even since this has come out that they don't re-home owner surrender dogs with their former

owner like that's the position that they're taking no and like that's a good policy when that happens but it didn't but it didn't it's really fucking weird it is not to it's perfect segue like giving Graham it is giving Graham. And that is a great segue. Graham did get rehomed. Well, hippie, whatever they call them. His name will always be Graham. They did rehome Graham, technically,

to the place that surrendered him, technically. Not exactly, but maybe Lisa has her own policies. It's her dog rescue, Vanderpump Dogs. Okay, so part three of the Vanderpump Rules reunion was on last night. I feel like it was definitely the most awaited it usually is but like them doing this whole nobody saw the last two minutes of the episode and then watching it together like was kind of brilliant like seriously I felt so fucking awkward I was gripped like my stomach was in a knot watching Sheena and

Lala watch back what they said and it's so funny how they're such different people because like watching their faces like Sheena is dying on the inside. She's horrified. She's horrified because that Sheena, like she doesn't like, maybe you could call it talking behind someone's back, but like she doesn't want to say the unkind thing that she's thinking to someone's face. Maybe she doesn't like confrontation. I don't think that's like a bad quality.

No, she gets shit because like she's like a people pleaser. She says one thing to someone and does the other. And I don't think it's her being duplicitous. I think it's like this genuine feeling. She wants everyone to like her so she can't help that she feels a certain way but she won't say it because she doesn't want anyone to think that she's making it about her or that she's being mean. But then you see Lala and I'm sure on the inside Lala was like fuck. Fuck. But she's gonna double down because she knows that is how she feels and that's her truth and she's gonna speak it. And I thought, so I had, I just was like so invested in this episode. Like really like locked in, as I said, couldn't look at my phone.

And I just want to say overall, like Ariana has my heart. That was my takeaway too. I thought she acted so mature. So mature. She never once got angry. She did not raise her voice. She was still very vulnerable. Like, I actually appreciated her breaking down a little bit when it came to Tom

and explaining, like, even when, you know, Andy was like, how does it make you feel to hear what Blank said about you? Even when she could have been confrontational, she said, you know, I was hurt, but she never, like, lashed out at anyone. And I think it points to such an emotional intelligence and a maturity that is so unrecognizable in reality TV. Like she seriously like stood out so much because of it. Yeah, she really did.

Just everything that she was saying, she didn't come for anyone except for Tom, who she's allowed to. But even when she heard what Lala was saying and she just like responded being like, that's so hurtful. I just, she was so big and she just deserves better. And that's so hurtful I just she was so big and she just deserves better and like she can't get that on this show she just can't and I think

either she can compartmentalize and maybe it's now that it's been a year plus since the affair like she in this season could do that or she has to move on from it but it's not fair that she has to be the one to leave her job and her career because of what he did no I think last night's episode was such a reminder for me how close this was to Sandoval and I think like I didn't know it watching it but I think everybody who lived it knew it's only been three months and so now I actually do feel like people were really hard on her like especially with the house thing. Like it was still really fresh. And so I think last night was really not a good look for Lala. But I came away from it understanding her a little bit more.

So I think I don't really agree with her stance on anything. But it's clear that Lala is so damaged. And I think that she has been applying her experience with Randall to Scandival, like, this entire season. And I think everybody's sort of, like, rolling their eyes at it. And me too, because it's not a fair comparison. But that doesn't diminish the fact that, like, she's living with deep trauma. And hers is, like, yes, a betrayal of the highest, just like Ariana. But then the added layer of, like, the custody, like, which I think really broke her.

And, like, drove her to this place to want to have another kid without another man. Like, I think she's so broken. And her just, like, breaking down at the end being, like, it's so really broke her and, like, drove her to this place to want to have another kid without another man. Like, yeah, I think she's so broken and her just, like, breaking down at the end being, like, it's so unfair. It is unfair. Like, what happened to her after she got cheated on, what happened to Lala after she got cheated, Ariana after she got cheated on are completely different things. And it's not fair. And life isn't fair. And that sucks. And I understand her anger and her frustration and just her, like, sort ofiving this trauma but that doesn't make what Ariana's going through like any different yeah I agree with that and like I felt sad for her I wasn't championing anything she was really saying but I did feel sad for her oh no I heard all of her points like and I I still I I feel her and I feel like she's still my queen so

I don't I hope no one like thought that was in question. And also like what's also equally frustrating. We talked about last week how, you know, the response has been different, but like when they flashback to that reunion and really the takeaway was like, how you get them is how you lose them. Like you should have known better.

I'm sorry, but like Tom and Kristen and Ariana, like it's the same sort of situation. He's's we've like known him and seen him for so long and there's none of that and because there shouldn't be any of that because a person was hurt and they believed in someone and the fact that none of that grace was given to Lala and it's not even like it was so long ago it was like two years before and that's really the response that you're going to give her when she's home with a seven month baby seven month old baby like she's right to feel so mad about that and not be able to it's not fair let it go it's not fair but

I also felt like a lot of the points that she was making about the show though incredibly harsh are are fair points like the things that she said in the finale like nobody really wants to hear but I think that's more of the reality of their day-to-day is they talk about the show probably 95% of their time and then the 5% they're filming the show and they talk about it like it doesn't exist but even that scene that they played back from Ariana Katie talking about Ariana and Tom's relationship and how they don't show anything on the show like that's the show's fault for not showing us that up until that point yeah yeah but it's also on Tom and Ariana like they obviously made a decision like an agreement like we are going to put forth some sort of whatever. And we can deal with whatever issues we have in private.

But that's not going to become fodder for the show. So that was an agreement that they had. And that's what made Scandival all the more shocking. Because they looked like a solid couple. Yeah. And then they all want to tell us, no, it's been bad for so long. But it's like, but you, we didn't know that. Right.

We didn't see that. And that's where like, that's where I think frustration from the viewers came this season. It's like, well, we knew Tom was, like, an asshole. But you guys pretended everything was normal and okay. So now we have to, like, relive everyone discovering Tom's an asshole. Like, we knew. Yeah. No, I really, I felt badly for Lala.

I felt really bad for Ariana. Sheena, obviously. I felt bad for Lala, too. But I don't think, like, basically, like, when she had speak for for herself at the reunion after Randall like there was a lot of victim blaming going on that's what it was and I think you know she was kind of like looking for that to happen again but I don't think that's the answer like but you can't help that that's what happened to Lala do you know what I mean like it's already done but them doing it to Ariana doesn't make it right right no just I guess would make it fair or some acknowledgement

for like on Lala's part I think she just wants everyone to like see her and realize what she's been through you know but I don't but it will never be even if people are like yes Lala we were wrong like we shouldn't have been that way it's not going to change what happened and how it went down and she's always going to carry that yeah Sheena was like seriously like like I think like seriously wanted to die like it was painful to watch. She was crippled with anxiety and just. About the show versus then they're going to wrap

and Lala's her best friend and did she just throw her under the bus? Right. But then also feeling isolated because she, the things she said about Ariana were played in front of Ariana. So she's like distance from Ariana. And then like the one person she had in this world

is like seriously you're not doing enough. And so like then her trying to put a bandaid on it at the end being like Lala's been there for me was like nice but it's like not the point yeah but I think Lala if they're really that close like knows this about Sheena and it must be frustrating to really stand out there on your own like Lala was doing and take the hits and I was looking briefly at like what people were saying about the reunion like it's it's team Katie and Ariana L hatred. I think she's getting so much hate. I hope she has turned her phone off because like I think towards the end of this

the tail end of the season and these reunions like she carried it in my opinion. And yes Ariana was the subject but like she was just there because what more can she do because she's going through stuff. No and everything it's so funny like all of this has happened to Ariana.

Ariana has played no part in Scandival. Like, she never really even responded. She's just sort of, like, letting everyone, like, clown and, like, spiral. But she herself has, like, contributed nothing. And so for her to, like, be getting hate is really crazy because she's literally done nothing. Except, like, just try and protect herself. Like, she doesn't freak out. She's had, like, a couple, like, angry moments.

But really nothing. yeah but I thought like their exchange was interesting because when Ariana said like her walking away from the conversation with Tom was a better ending to the season than having the conversation with Tom which personally I don't really care to see like does anyone it's like corny we know they would never have that conversation if they weren't on a show together and like what's there to say that hasn't already been said they're not going to come away from it with resolution so she was like that gave a better ending to the season me walking away than having the conversation it's like while then being like no if I hadn't spoken my mind the season would have ended with you walking out the door like that's not interesting either so it is true that

like they both contributed to like the way the season ended I think was one of the most interesting pieces of reality tv I've ever seen. Same. Because it was very breaking down the fourth wall like very honest. Yeah but they both really did their part in that. Yeah. And I think I appreciate Lala like being so honest about the business of it and the opportunities. I think that's always been the truth but not something anyone says. Yeah that's so much breaking the fourth wall and I think once they broke the wall they're just letting it rip now and that is the truth of the matter like the show if it doesn't continue to make waves like

it's in jeopardy now they've got the valley down their backs why did they spend so much time talking about Jackson Britney I don't know like I'm not interested at the moment no i do feel like it's a way of them melding these two shows because i think people from banner pump rules are going to graduate and go to the valley yeah i mean if just like logistically sheena lives in the valley and lala they're neighbors now right so and they have kids yeah so. So it was very emotional. Also, knowing that Lala's pregnant, I think that's one why she was so emotional, too. Yes.

That sort of anxiety and that pit in your stomach, it's just, like, not good. Yeah, for you. And I'm glad that it's, like, done with for her. I wish her well. I hope she has a good summer. And we'll see what happens when they come back. And I really wish Ariana well.

Like, I was so impressed by her. I feel... Me too. I feel so deeply for her and I don't know what the right way forward is I don't but I hope that she knows and and does what's best for her one of them has to leave in order for the show to really work or no or Ariana just like accepts like this is a entertainment but she shouldn't have to do that and she doesn't want to. No, okay, she doesn't want to, but that is one option. Like we both stay on the show, we'll go to the party together,

like I hate you, it'll become like, but we'll fight and it'll be crazy. And what we're both, because Tom Sandoval's not leaving the show unless he's fired and I don't think he's going to get fired. She's too evolved for that, by the way. She's not going to do that. So I do think like the only real like way to move forward is for Ariana to leave the show, which is so wrong. But I do think they set the scene for that, especially talking about Lisa not going to the reunion of Beverly Hills. Like sometimes

you're just done with this group of people, which means that you have to be done. You know what? I actually, so glad you brought that up. I love that they brought up the Lisa because you know what? At the time I was so anti-Lisa. Like I thought she was a drama queen. She couldn't hold her own. But now seeing how she has like like 100 she's a lot of people like leave and come back she has never reneged like she's done whenever she gets asked about these people she wants no part of them and she continued to thrive work-wise and and personally and and actually I'm glad that they reminded me of that because I was very critical of her at the time but now looking back like she was really a woman of her word and while I don't agree with like the you know the stance she took in the actual argument there is something to be

said for like you know being done with a group of people and never like especially in reality tv like never reneging on that you know yeah and also the way she explained it and it's like I don't know if she said this at the time but I feel like I would have been more understanding it's not that she didn't want to like face up to everyone at the reunion like the goal of the reunion is to like come together and and hash out the drama and like she has no interest in coming together or hashing out the drama and making it right so I'm done so there's no point yeah yeah at a certain point like you have to put your peace and like your sanity and your mental health over this and I do think at this point like Ariana has what she needs from the show she has opportunity she has something about

her which can still be on the show via Katie yeah but the thing is if needs from the show. She has opportunity. She has something about her which can still be on the show via Katie. Yeah, but the thing is, if Ariana leaves the show, where does that leave Katie? It leaves her on an island. Like, none of the girls are friends with her. She hates Tom. She hates the other Tom.

The other Tom hates her. So then I think maybe Ariana won't leave the show. I think maybe we'll get another season that's kind of like this and it'll focus on something about her. Also, she spent all this time building a restaurant. Like, you think she's going to leave before the promo hits? No, that's not sound business either.

Agreed. I think they go on another season and we'll see what happens. Because also, like, anything could change, right? Like, crazy stuff happens all the time. It's true. So that's what I think. I actually think nothing will change. Like, they gave us a great great season so why do we need to change it if it ain't broke don't fix it now the dynamics are really strained yeah and we we have to move forward so

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