The Toast - Amanda Batula and The Generational Fumble: Tuesday, March 31st, 2026

Episode Date: March 31, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and neighbor show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast. Happy Tuesday, or should I say, welcome back to the frames. That's right. The motherfucking frames are back.

I'm back in New York City. It's transatlantic thirst once again. I can't believe it. I feel like everyone is going to be shocked. Take a minute. Process it. Have a seat. I'm getting divorced.

We're not together in Florida anymore. It just happened just like that. Claudia's back in New York, I'm here. It's so crazy to be penfowls again. I know, okay, let me tell you I'm in hell. Okay, good. So I come back to the studio, the studio that I once loved,

and I forgot about, like, I forgot about this studio. Do you know what I mean? I forgot that like we don't have air. I have to like call the handyman. I forgot, I left this place like seriously to die. I just know for a fact that a mouse has been here. Like I can just feel his presence. Mm-hmm.

So yeah. I have got to get the contractor, the exterminator. Like, I kind of just let this place rot in the middle of winter. And I just know a certain mouse had an amazing winter on my Mickey Couture blankets. There was no air conditioning. I just know he found, sought refuge here. I hope he had a good time, but you better sit down for this. You're getting evicted, bitch.

Times up. So I forgot, like, about that. But other than that, I'm so happy to be home. I forgot that I, like, low-key moved into a pargy apartment. Like, I, I'm back. back in the New York cruise. How's the city that never sleeps? I came back at such a great time.

I really slayed what I did just accidentally skipping one of the worst winters of all time. Blizzard after blizzard after blizzard and I was just like in the palm trees with my sisters with my sisters. So it's 70 degrees. It couldn't be more gorgina vagina.

I slayed things I did that. Well, we miss you. We do. I'm not going to lie. I'm not unhappy to be back in my home studio. I know. I miss my commute. I do.

If I have less of a genesis qua, I would say it's because I'm not listening to David Getta on my way into work. But I guess I could supplement. I could supplement, listen to my makeup or something. Yeah. But like I love these studios. I love this chair. After the chairs we've been on. Yeah.

It's a joy to be here. And Bruno's here. Oh, yeah. Bruna. I feel also like I'm podcasting for the first time again. I don't know why. It's so different. It is.

I know we're technically doing the same exact thing that we do together, but between all like the different digital elements, the connectivity issue, like I feel weird. I feel it's going to take me a couple of...

It's going to take a minute. I can see people being like, does anybody else feel like weird vibes from Claudia and Jackie? Like, are they fighting? No, no, we're just suggesting. I didn't feel that way. But, you know,

we had to get back into our dance, our remote dance. We can't like talk over each other as much. We can't sing as much. We should have done a practice episode. like yesterday. That's so not us. If we ever are doing a practice episode, like just know.

I guess I did an episode yesterday from my home studio, but it was redheads. Let's talk about the redheads. The redheads are on the brink, you guys, per usual. Are you guys sick of hearing about this? Are you guys like... The redheads are on the brink. The brink of what?

Extinction? Yeah, yeah. I've had multiple conversations with various girls and we're all struggling. Okay, the thing is that I know... I've never been a redhead, so I don't know the burden of having to read the book. And then like, I don't know.

So maybe I'm coming from a space of ignorance. Wouldn't be the first time. But I feel like you can't give up on the redheads. I will join the redheads. Like maybe that's what we need, a breath of fresh air. Maybe we got to kick someone out. Maybe.

I don't know if anybody would leave, like, without the whole group. Like, I think we're on this ship together, which is nice. Can I start the redheads with, like, three people I know? Oh, do you want to do like Redheads the next generation? That's a great idea. Redheads 2.0. We're passing the baton. I just know my friend Abe would be so lit the fuck up to do it. I would like love for you to do it just so you could see like how hard it is.

Because it's not even the recording. It's the reading. It's the reading and like finding a time that works for all four. And like you can't just like back out because we'll not be able to find a time again anytime soon. And I imagine people are like sick of me talking about how much I look. Change the redheads. No, you can't hate the redheads. Redheads. I actually love the redheads the reason why you've been doing it for so long. We've read over 70 books.

Like that's insane. Even if we bowed out now, like, I would consider a success. And I'm just going to try and, like, get through this difficult period because I have so much on my plate right now that, like, it won't always be this way. And I'll be glad for the redheads one day. So if I don't keep with it now, like, I won't have that day to look forward to it. I also need you to know, like, the redheads will never die. Because, like, I'm always sort of waiting in the wings. Like, when the redheads were started, I didn't read. So obviously you didn't even think of me for a potential head. Then I just fell in love with reading. I follow, you know, book news.

Like, it's kind of weird that I'm not in the redheads. Yeah. So the redheads will never die because if they do give up on it, like I'm picking it back up. Okay, you can have the IP. It's an amazing name.

We've got great branding. Like we've really slayed. But if you do want to join the redheads, like why don't you talk to Marrott? I think she's the weakest link. Oh, you think if I could get someone's seat, it would be hers. I do. Even though yesterday she had to host the episode because it was her book and it was just

so fun. Like the episode was amazing. That's the other thing. Like it's hysterical. It's too good. Sorry. You have to keep going. I know.

I say this like every month and I'm sure you're sick of me because you're just like then end it. And the thing is like we have listeners. Like it would be a, like you can't end it. You can't. Some people when they like end their podcast, it's like that's fine. No one, nobody was listening. We didn't know that.

you ended it because we didn't know that you started it. Like the redheads has a very devoted community. I can't let them down. I can't. So we march ahead. Continue on. So that's what I was doing yesterday. And then also last night I did something crazy and caught up on Summerhouse.

We have a lot to discuss today. Oh my God. Yesterday I was a hard day for me because I just felt really sick and I just had so much to do and the redheads and everything. And then like at the end of the day I was like, let me go read the comments. mistake. I just want to say, same with me because I got right on a plane after,

and it was like a truly treacherous travel day. It was like not easy. And when I got into bed, I'm like, I wonder if people liked the episode. Because it was short and we were sick and I was just, oh. I was getting out of plane. It wasn't our best.

Like we can't give every episode like 1,000 percent. Sorry, like we just didn't do our best yesterday. I just needed to show up. And we had funny moments, but like, sure, Tiger Woods wasn't drunk. He's a pill popper, not an alcoholic. My bad. Yeah, I read the episodes like fat, ugly, stupid, brainless, moral.

Kill yourself. Kill yourself. So it was like, never mind. Let's just go to bed. Yeah. So I just want to say to everyone who hated yesterday's episode, like I am sorry. I don't feel like it was the most amazing episode. So I'm not even going to come free for that. But I just want to say like everyone was like, why are you talking about Sierra West?

Nothing has happened. And we'll talk about it in the stories because I made it a story today because I watched Summer House last night. We report the news and in terms of like there wasn't a news. Nothing has more so resurfaced since the last time we spoke about it. It's just vibes. It's 100% true. And the vibes are leaning towards it being true. The last time we spoke about it, we said we did not believe it.

So nothing has come out that's been confirmation of the rumors. So there was like nothing to say. I didn't realize everyone was like waiting for us to speak on it. But I will now speak on it because I've been watching Summerhouse and I have a lot of thoughts. And then I took it upon myself. in the last 24 hours to reach out to some people who I thought might know some stuff. And I got some good information that I'll share

when we discuss. I can't friggin wait. And so I think we should get into everything. Oh, you do? I don't know. I guess like no, people love the fast. Oh, we also have Deer Toasters today. Although it does feel like Deer Toasters for the third week in a row

should be pushed to Wednesday. We just have like a lot to do today in terms of the Big Summerhouse News. You and I just being back together. Like I'm sure the frames want to speak. And I wouldn't like to, you know, and Pete on there. And Bruno needs his moment. He's been sidelined. We haven't put.

podcasted in here, like, I guess we did an episode in like November and December, but like really since October, that's when I went on my maternity leave. Yes, I did one episode from your house with Shannon Ford, but we haven't been in this. Oh, yes, since before your maternity leave. But I did with you like in my maternity leave twice. The last episode. Yeah. And also once before I gave birth, because like I went over my due date. You were bored. Fun fact, I went over my due date with my third child. That's crazy. No, when I see, when I see like girls walking around who are like 40, 40, 40, one weeks. I actually, like, I stop in my tracks and I pray for them. Yeah, no, that was me, that was me on Halloween. Imagine trick or treating with two toddlers. Insane. Three days before your due date.

Insane. Insane stuff. Well, what else is new? How's Rubell? How's New York, Foo? How's Lish? You know, I don't like to complain. I actually really don't. I do complain, like, as a joke, a lot. But like in terms of motherhood stuff, like I just, I don't find it conducive. I think it affects your like outlook on life. And I just like don't want to be one of those bitches being like, this 15 minutes I got for myself was like really important. And I also love my baby. Like two things can be true.

Like we don't give a fuck. Like we really don't. So I don't want to talk about how like the flight was difficult. It was just I had flown with Ruby a bunch of times before he was six months. And traveling with a six months old, I'm sorry, is nothing, especially when their breasts had they slept the whole time. And everyone was like how was he? I'm like, he's such a good baby.

I flew with a baby yesterday. Like a real baby who didn't want a nap, who did it. I bought him a seat, a waste of money. Didn't sit in it for one second. The boy's mouth didn't stop moving. Eating and crying and eating and crying. Like seriously, as we're landing, he falls asleep on bed. Of course.

Just hard, you know? So, of course, I would never want to complain. But it wasn't a breeze, is all you're saying. It wasn't a breeze. that's fair that happens yeah yeah i don't want to go even more negative than that because like i would never speak negatively about the love of my life i completely agree um and i just want to say in the um effort which i believe was like a valiant effort to make mothers feel less alone and you know talk about the hard stuff i do feel like there are a lot of content creators who do that but i think

it very quickly just became like being negative all the time and complaining and like making jokes about how you want to be away from your baby. And like, I hate that shit. Like when I see it, I actually block that type of, that energy, it can penetrate your mind and you're like your state of mind. And I think that your state of mind is very fragile and you need to like be really particular about what you consume. I hate that shit.

I hate that shit. Yeah, you got to keep it positive. Manifest positivity. No, I know. And I know it's like we're supposed to be being real. And being real is that some parts are hard. Yeah, for sure. And I commend you and like, I don't want to turn on anyone for being real.

But like, seriously, shut up. Yeah. I think you should be real positive. Yeah. Yeah. Real. I love me. Literally saw this girl make a TikTok being like, here are all the content creators I follow who are like not naggy bitch mothers. And I literally followed every single one of them. Like it really is so important. Your brain, even if you're just disagreeing with it and scrolling,

that shit penetrates. Get out. I don't want that shit near me. Yeah. I agree. This having my morning coffee before my baby woke up was the best part of my day. That's not good. I hate that. Oh my God. Also. And then they also act like it's revolutionary. Like, I know we're not supposed to say that. Really? People say it all the time. No, and they're so brave. Yeah. Like, I can't. They're so brave for complaining. Yeah. The other day I was trying to think of a word and it did come to me days later. So I just want to say because I think it was a great word. Remember when I was trying to say that

we're like exonerating? No, no, no. And that's the word you were looking for. No, no, no, but you found exonerate. When I was trying to say like we're turning the lights down on something like. Oh yeah, like submerging. We're sunseting it. Yes, that's a good word. So I think we should sunset the redheads. No. I'm kidding.

But it came to me later. That was the word I was looking for. And so if I just need to, for my own brain fog and brain camp, like I need to hold myself accountable in finding the words that I've lost throughout postpartum. And I want the redheads listening to this to know. That I so happily lost, by the way. You will always have a champion in me. You've got to have you ever even listened to a fucking episode.

Have you ever even listened to? That's not true. I guess I have. Whenever I like posthumously read a book. Oh my gosh. I didn't even tell you a little spoiler alert. Our next book for the Redheads. And actually this could be your time is It Girl by Alison Pataki.

It's my choice. That's how I chose. Oh, by the way, such a good book. I would happily join. Even though it's been like a while since I've read it, it will be like two months. But my next book that I just purchased was inspired by the Redheads Next to Heaven

and I will be listening to the episode. Oh, I love it. Oh, I loved that book. Yes, I don't keep up every month but I go back and read books and then I'm like, what did the Redheads have to say about this? Okay, that's great. No, this is like re-adicating my love.

Jekuse. Jekuse. Jekusitruz. Well, let's get into the stories. I really want to talk about the summerhouse drama and now that you guys all bullied me into talking about it more, more. Now, today's episode is brought to you by Yaso.

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If you're not following the saga, you're just like learning about it from us. There's really nothing new. Some of the cast members have posted, like, suspicious things. But at first, I was thinking that they were all just being thirsty, and this is like some coordinated prank. Okay. Because it's so unbelievable. Okay.

So the rumor is a couple weeks ago, Dumas post in that Amanda Betula from Summerhouse was kissing West Wilson from Summerhouse, who used to date her best friend, Sierra. And they just have like a history, almost two years. years now of being like on and off and like like there she's still very much hung up on him it's clear he's hung up on her and even the summer they're flirting Kyle just got out of a marriage with Amanda just got out of marriage with Kyle who's best friend so really all in all like if these two are dating it's as big as scandal it is it is um and the reason why I didn't believe it at first was because when it first came up like a couple of weeks ago on du moi I feel like it was very

quickly shut down by them and then it came back again. And I don't know what caused the resurgence, but I did see Amanda responding to a comment about it being like exactly like somebody was making a point. But beyond that, everything is pointing to it actually being true. He was asked about it on Watch What Happens Live and it was like an exercise and had had to like watch someone lie. Like it was so not convincing. Yeah, he really dodged the question. He said like she's my good friend. He did ultimately say that it's not true. So that would have been a lie if it is true. But let me tell you how I feel about this. Like from last week, I said, like, I really don't believe this. It's too outrageous. Her friendship with Sierra is so important to her.

She would never just, like, throw that away for a guy. That's so the antithesis of like the girls in this house, like their best friends, they, they wouldn't, she wouldn't do that. Now people more and more saying that is true and like no one is confirming or denying it. And it's become like the biggest rumor ever. And it more so makes me think that it's not true. And I feel like the reason that people aren't debunking it is because this is amazing for the show. I said a couple weeks ago I wasn't really keeping up that much with the show. It wasn't interesting to me. Now I'm watching again with fresh eyes.

There definitely is a thread between Amanda and West. Now it could either be a very close friendship or it's like they've always had a little torch held for one another. So I have thought that Amanda, while she was married, was always acting really inappropriate with a lot of the guys in the house, not just West, especially Jesse too, like the leaving the comments. It was always so, so flirting, my best friend, my brother, my brother, my brother. So there is, now people are going back and being like, well, look at them here and look at them.

They're all really weird and touchy. And especially I've always thought it was extra weird for Amanda because she was the only one who was married. No, and she's like, touchy with everyone except her husband. Her husband. Yeah, she's like sitting on the couch, like so close to West or standing at the table so close to West or Jesse or even Ben, the new guy. And none of that energy for her husband, but obviously they like hate each other. Yeah. So I think going back, I've always thought that it was inappropriate.

weird, but like they've just really maintained that you would never date a cast made. I talked up to immaturity, like the way that they're all like so close guy, friends, girlfriends, brothers, sisters, da-da-da. Like I'm like, oh, that's how you act when you're much younger. And so I thought it was just like, and you know, you're in a sharehouse. You're on TV. I think it's just like it forces people to be really close and they're just like all on top of each other laying in bed together, brother, sister.

A thousand percent. So I really, up until recently was, I think also part of my disbelief in it is like it's hard to imagine someone can be so dumb. Not only Amanda, like turning on your friend. And she and Sierra, like the girls of Summerhouse really pride themselves. Like I think every episode it's girls, girl, girls, girl. And it's like for her, it's so incongruous with what I thought I knew about her. And from just like a business perspective, there is this sort of trope of the scorned women of Bravo going on to exceed the network and become.

Ariana's hosting Love Island. Paige DeSorbo, even though I don't consider her the same because she was like going to get there no matter what. It doesn't really have a lot to do with her breakup. But the breakup really accelerated her in a lot for a lot of people who didn't know her. Like it is this sort of track that it puts you out. And it was starting for Amanda. Like if you, in the last couple of weeks slash months, the brand deals, the commercials, the events. Like it was starting. She was going to end up hosting, you know, the reunion of unwell, appraise. I agree. You know what I mean. But what you just said, I do not believe a person could. could be so stupid. I actually don't think that that's possible.

She could have dated any man on this planet Earth and been championed for that except for one person. And the, the idea that she's so, like, Digmatized by West that she would throw away her friendships, her career, her reputation. I genuinely do not believe it. And I think that this rumor came out. Everyone thought it was like really crazy,

but I think they saw how much people were caught up in it and they were all like, let's sort of like let this fester. It's so good for the show. And I think in a couple days, they'll either say they'll debunk it or they'll continue posting as normal. And the people, not me,

people will look so stupid. Austin Kroll posted. Like everyone's getting involved. I think people are like living for it. Except I did a little recourse of my own. What I know is that the person I spoke to said that this is true. that there's actually a video that is either coming out

or they're really trying to stop it from getting out and we should be expecting to hear from like a joint statement Amanda and West. That's just what I heard. Can you text me who told you that so I can like see how credible it is? I think you'll think it's credible. I heard from someone legit that's true, that it is true.

But I'm telling you, I really don't think so. I saw a tweet that was like such a sleigh. it said Amanda, if true, Amanda just pulled a generational fumble of goodwill. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying like that. Generational fumble. That trope of scorned women of Bravo is powerful. You know, they get their call her daddy episode. They get like the track she was on.

And we haven't even seen the worst of it, right? Last week was just the Kyle thing. Kyle responded to a tweet. The tweet was like, it's funny how we're all talking about like how Sierra feels, how Blank feels, and nobody's talking about how Kyle feels. I just want to say, I am talking about how Kyle feels. And he responded with like a little emoji with a crying tear. So they're all engaging in very vague ways, which does support your theory of them just playing it up.

Yeah. But it's also hard to imagine Amanda would be okay with her reputation, even if it's not true, with letting this, letting her name be dragged for so long. I agree. But like this is really good for the show and the next show. And I think ultimately if you didn't do anything wrong, then you're sort of. of like sitting back laughing with Sierra just being like everybody is watching our show and we're the biggest story in the country and we didn't even do anything and it's like based on nonsense

people can just say what they want yeah I see who your source is a good source but I just want to say that's also the source of the friend of the friend that I heard so it's like all coming from one source true it's all coming from one source yeah a legit source um du moi is really the one carrying the ball down the field on this I think she's staking her entire reputation on it she needs this to be true she needs it to not be brandon charters like And if it is not true, that's an L for her because she's really the one taking it up. Yeah. So I'm.

And West End, see, after the rumor was first, debunked, like a week later, DeMont had a picture of West and Sierra out together. Yeah, but I also feel like she announced, or she soft launched like a guy, right? She, a picture, Amanda. Who did? Amanda. Oh. Oh, by the way. So the other theory here is that all of this is getting mixed up.

because Amanda's actually seeing West's friend. Yes. Who's out on the show, who we don't know, he's like just a civilian. Like he looks like West. He's West 2.0. Yes. So she soft launched the friend.

So when people saw her, like said that she was kissing West, other people were like, no, it's the friend. I don't think this whole thing is just one big confusion. Like, I think it's so easily cleared up. That's the thing. No, but they don't want,

why would they clear it up right now when it's people are watching more episodes talking about them? Like, well, one thing we know about West is like he cares deeply what the fans think about him. And I don't know if he would be with letting this go on. And Amanda has

eight years of like solid work on reality TV. People really like her. It's a lot of goodwill to throw away. Yeah, but like then it will come right back and then people will be like, how could we ever think that of you? I know. I, yeah, yeah. Lindsay Hubbard posted like, and Austin was like, and it's funny to think about

Austin and all this because Austin Crowe posted like, oh, I guess dating your friend's exes is back in style. And I guess he's talking to a man. like your friend's ex, Sierra's ex, but also he is involved with Sierra. So maybe West is his friend. Do you know what I mean? Or maybe he's just talking about something completely different.

Also like Lindsay Hubbard is sort of his ex. Like, right. It's all very confusing. I feel like everyone's playing into it to a degree that they can get away with. They're not like, no one said this is true. Yeah. Everyone's just sort of like toying with the idea. I think like Hannah Burner had had some reposts.

that we're curious about like, you know, karma. Which platform? TikTok. Go to her. Oh, karma. Like, oh, about Amanda? Yeah, go to her TikTok reposts. Oh, by the way, that's the most interesting part of this whole thing.

The page Hannah, Amanda dynamic and how this splits it up even more. Yeah, it does. Okay. Hannah burner reposts. No, sorry. No, not that. Giggly Squad. Hold on.

This, that. I think it was that. Oh, okay. No one will villainize you more than a person who realizes that you have clocked who they really are and not who they're pretending to be. No one will villainize. And she also left a comment. Oop.

But I feel like, hold on. That could be explained away. There's another repost that I saw in Reels. Oh, but she unreposted it. Unless it was fake news. Or maybe she thought people were like looking to much into it. and she was just like reposting something she liked, not like giving commentary on the state of the union.

Which would make it not true. But Hannah Burner is a very interesting player in this game. Yeah. I just know Hannah Burner sleeps so well at night. You know? Yeah. Like these people were really awful to her.

And they know everybody's like, did you watch her season? Yes, she was annoying and she like didn't do the dishes. Like grow up. What they did to her was so crazy. and the fact that she was able to like recover a little bit and then a little bit more and is now more famous and successful than all of them like I just know she loves this you know. Especially. And I'm so happy for her.

And I wonder how the like Amanda thing is and maybe they would have like become friends again eventually now that she's like like Kyle and who knows with this whole thing what's going to happen. Right. But I think also like this season lover boy is really struggling. Kyle is really struggling like he's on the brink of bankruptcy because if lover boy goes breakup and then he goes break up. and then he goes break up. He's on the hook for $4 million. $4 million. He's really like dire straits.

And it's like that was the thing. You know, that's apples to apples because that was the thing that like they, why they were so unhappy with her and did what they did. So I feel like that for her feels like justice. And I feel like the last season of Summer House, like we were getting kind of close to the possibility of maybe. Hannah and Amanda, like, being okay with one another. They're not friends, but, like, I remember she was asked on Watch What Happens Live

about if she went to see, like, a Giggly Squad tour show in New York. And she was like, no, it's not my place. Like, I don't want to make anyone. Like, this is Hannah's Big Day, like, just as much as it is, pages. And, like, I would never want to make her uncomfortable. And it was just the way that she was speaking about it, even though it's very like Taylor versus Kim. She's the Kim. Yeah, I'm over it.

Yeah, she's the villain. You're not the one whose life was ruined. I don't know why. I just felt like Hannah got to a place where she was so successful. Like it literally didn't matter anymore what happened. You never forget your first. No, by the way, I completely agree. Like, they were so awful.

And I just, I'm very, so I feel like the idea of them ever coming together, now even more so with all this drama, like just feels like an impossibility. But it does put Paige in just such a terrible spot, especially because I think what one of pages like main characteristics and I think why people like her so much is like she just rides for her friends, right? Like she doesn't really even get involved, except for the Craigstap, but like there's not like a lot of drama around her. She's just always like riding for her friends. Our friends are friends friends. And now she's sort of stuck

between two of her friends. And like who would you say she is a better friend with? Like Sierra? Or Amanda? Amanda longer, but I feel like Sierra more deep. I think so. But we don't know. We only know what we see on the show like which is like three days of one season. Like what happens the rest of the year. I don't know.

I think that's true. If it's true or not. I maintain that it's not. I'm sorry. Like that would be the stupidest thing I ever heard. Except the only thing that I could maybe imagine is like, what if they were all out? And they just made out. Not like they're trying, they're in love and they're carrying on an affair and they have to like get everyone around them to accept it. Like what if they just like fucked up and made out like drunk?

Yeah, that's different. But I want to say when I picture this being true, I picture it as them like being actually in love. They're kind of really similar. I heard that like, no, they're staying together and they need to figure out how to like. Well, they have to. but you're really going to risk it all for a guy whose shelf life is six months relationship. Well, of course, it's just, but what do we know about Amanda?

She has some of the worst taste in men of all time. I just want to. So, oh, please, don't. What do you think I'm going to say? It's something positive about Kyle Cook? No. Oh. I was going to say, everything else aside, they're kind of perfect for each other.

Yes, I think that they have very similar, like, just general dispositions. They're very, like, chill. I'm very calm. Like, I feel like it would be a quiet relationship. I, aside from him being like a classic fuck boy, never going to settle down, like waste people time. It's just like a bad call on her part. Personality-wise, I do feel like they're better suited for one another than Weston-Cyra. And Amanda and Kyle.

Well, obviously. Yeah. Me and the man on the street are better suited for one another than Amanda and Kyle. It's really insane how long they've been together, how long they were married on the episode I was watching last night. They had like a really bad fight. He, like, cursed at her the night. before it was like so nasty actually I wouldn't even call it a fight because she didn't do anything he just like walk past her and was like fuck you because she she left he was inside DJing it was very

pathetic honestly they came back from my god he was inside DJing they came back from the club to the house he went to his DJ kit and like starts playing tunes people like dancing a little bit but then everybody goes outside and it's like swimming and in the hot tub and hanging out outside it's his birthday weekend and he's inside DJing for no one and he was he feels like Amanda should be inside like with him and you know getting people to like be with him like support him whatever instead why don't you move your speaker outside he did but then it was like too late he put in everyone's face and was like unts-unce it was really bad it was so pathetic it was really bad and so he was like embarrassed frustrated drunk and like butt hurt and he like was like fuck you to her and then it was like everyone

was shook and then what they go into the bathroom and he's still trying to like prove his point of feeling like alone and he yeah he's a wreck and then he calls her like a dumb bitch yeah oh my god and then like west it's like you know the middle man like trying to get him to apologize to a man like defending his girlfriend defending and so just watching everything now like through the lens of like is there something there oh so anyways after that fight the next day someone was like why did they stay together after that right no no like why are they together and like nobody could answer the question Why does she say, like why? What's one thing?

There's not one positive thing about their relationship. I don't think that there is a singular moment of joy, especially towards the end. Yeah. I think part of it is like not wanting everyone to have been right. Mm-hmm. About you and your relationship. We told you before you even got engaged, like get out.

Yeah. You know what I feel about Kyle Cook now? Hmm. Pass me. I want to tell you not to get lost in these petty things. Your nemesies will defeat themselves before you get the chance to swing. And he's passing by, like, there was a time when, like, if I saw Kyle Cook on the street, like I actually would have squared up and punched him in the jaw.

Like he called my husband a liar. Like, there was a time where he was my number one nemesis. And like now I actually just feel bad for him. Like he's on the verge of homelessness. I feel like calling him your nemesis, it's like, it's not even worthy. Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. But like, look like, look at you.

Like, look at me. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's like sad. I know. It's like I actually feel bad making fun of him because he's such a loser, like desperate, jobless, single, yellow belly loser. So now can we talk about something else or like, do you guys want us to talk about this more? Just kidding. I felt like I needed to get all. I needed to get that all out there. And I just want to say, I don't believe it. Still, I don't believe it. Wow. Okay. That's like when you didn't think Kim and Connie were getting divorced. It's true. Oh, yeah. And you didn't think Travis. and Taylor of Matt. We all have like things we are just in denial about. Because to believe that it's true

I'm sorry, like bigger than Scandibald worst than Scandal Ball. Yeah. Except that they were carrying on an affair and whatever, blah, blah, blah. Like I feel like this was just like, this is like smaller and they weren't married or anything, but. And also Raquel and Oriana were like very new friends. Yeah. And they're just like, the end of prom

rules is a mess. Like, no, I know. And they live in LA. Like nobody has loyalty. Would you expect to your boyfriend to be loyal? But I do feel like Ariana and I think of Ariana and Amanda so similarly because they both were with people who were awful and like we're always defending them and like stayed with them. And then they became like this big victim. And it's like, I don't actually feel bad for you. Like if anything, you're a victim of your own choices. And so we all have to be here and being like, Ariana, we're like up until this kid. I'm all thing. Every episode you were riding for him. And it's like, we knew he was this egotistical,

narcissistic monster. And you kept telling us how great he was and moved into a house and bought a house and froze your eggs with him. And it's like, same with Amanda. we knew he cheated on you before you even got engaged. We have known for 10 years and he's a piece of shit and he was not going to end up like being the greatest husband. And then we're all like she's free. She's free from a self-imposed prison.

She took herself, locked the key and threw it away. Yeah, the difference is that even though Ariana like was in this relationship that none of us can understand, like something unfair happened to her. You know, something happened. Something wrong. Something wrong. Like something of betrayal of multiple degrees. So she was really like this scorned wronged woman.

Amanda Kyle just like decided to end what they were doing. Yeah. No, but like all this like she's free like all this. Free from what? Yeah. Okay. The consequences of her actions. Our next story, we mentioned it a wee bit,

but Alex Cooper is setting a YouTube reality competition show featuring reality TV veterans and villains. And influencers. I feel like I read it. It's being poised. Sort of, it sounds like house of villains. Yeah. You know that e-show where like people who come off reality TV, Sandoval's on it, like crazy people.

I think Kim Zolsiak was on it. Polarizing people is what I read. Yeah, but I think all reality TV people are polarizing. I think, you know, some of the people are, maybe that's how she's selling it because some of these people are really not palatable. So it's like, oh yeah, well, that's the point. They're polarizing. Right.

But then there's also like beloved influencers on there. Like Julia Porter. Julian Porter, Dylan. Dylan Kevich. you know him, shut the fuck up and fuck me. Like, he's so crazy. No, I am. He runs around the city, like, actually being crazy.

So he's not polarizing. So here are the details, if I may. Now, Unwell Network announced their new series, Unwell Winter Games set to premiere next week on YouTube. The four-episode series brings together 16 contestants at a luxury chalet in Park City to compete in a series of mental and physical challenges over four days. The competitors include,

from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, Dakota. That's why everyone's talking about this, mind you. Yes, and to me. And? Hooda. Oh, well, that was from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Then we also have, like, Love Island alum, Huda Mustafa, who was just got a restraining order

for threatening her boyfriend's child and baby mama and breaking and entering into the house. Right. Then we also have Anna Delvey. Oh, and Huda's boyfriends on the show too. Louie. Are they still together? I never saw otherwise.

Or maybe this was, is this, has this been filmed already? Yeah, definitely. Because winter is like over. Oh, right. But Park City is always winter, but yeah. But it's April. Yeah, yeah, no, you're right. They definitely filmed it a couple months ago.

Then we also have Anna Delvey, Juliet Porter, Alyssa Violet, who is Jake Paul's ex. Yeah. Andrew Vetter, Cameron Gerard, Dylan Kevich, you said. A. Al Booker from Love Island. A. Kinseu from Love Island. Gleb from Datshielder. Harry Bichelder. Hannah Stocking. Joe from The Bachelor. What did I say? What I say? Go back.

Hannah Stocking? Before. Hallie Bichelder. What did I say? Hallie Bichelder. Yeah. That's, but what did I say? You said like Hanna Becce.

Like you literally did not speak English. Oh, I'm sorry. Hannah Batchelder. I'm trying out new ways. Love. Joe from Bachelor and his wife, Serena. Oh, she's really polarizing. Stop.

She's actually the sweetest lady on earth. I'm kidding. She's like the nicest girl ever. She's like so soft-spoken. Yeah. But I don't know why she's on this house of villain type show. I don't think it's meant to be house of villains. I feel like maybe that's how they're feeling it.

I read a description about and it's being marketed as polarizing figures from reality TV. Okay, well, I feel like that's how they're selling it because in the months since... Because there's a bunch of criminals on this show. In a month since they filmed it, Dakota and Huda have turned out to be people that should not be on reality TV. And what are they going to do? Can the whole show? Much like The Bachelorette. But I feel like ABC can do what they want. You know, the ABC brand is more important than one season of The Bachelorette. Of course. And when you think about ABC, they're a part of this, like legendary Disney. Like they hold themselves to extremely high standard.

Correct me if I'm wrong. This is a show on YouTube. This is a show on YouTube, but I'm sure they put a lot of resources into filming it. Yeah. And it's a big deal for them. And they're not just going to scrap it because two people are crazy.

Like I don't think that they have the same sort of things to worry about as ABC does. And instead they're just feeling it as like polarizing. And hopefully, you know, that will cover the stink. Right. Right, right. I for one will not be watching this, only because, like, this is not my type of show. I don't watch House of Villains. I actually really don't like shows like that. People are taking a stand. I think a lot of people feel it's unfair. But you have to remember that like this is compared to ABC, Disney, like a much smaller operation. But I literally saw an, I sent it to you. I saw a headline in New York Magazine today. Where is that chat? So this is what the headline on Twitter is.

So Dakota Mortensen can do Alex Cooper's new competition series, but we can't get Taylor Frankie's Paul, Taylor Frankie's Paul's season of the bachelor. Yeah, so different. So different. Yeah, also Huda. I'm sorry. Hooda is literally, she's just as bad.

She's apples to apples with Taylor. There's a child involved. Yep. And also, I'll say, playing devil's advocate for Dakota for a second, even though I do think he's a bad guy. And I think it takes, I think it was both of them.

There's actually like, nothing out there tangible. He doesn't have a, yep. A record of him being abusive. No, there's no police. There's nothing. She's the one who's been arrested. Yeah.

Huda. She's got a rap sheet. Like, what are we doing? Yeah. So I think the Huda thing is more comparable to be like, why is this person going to be platformed? But I do think that, you know, billing it as like polarizing and just sort of being like, here you go, take it or leave it, is how they're going to market this.

But it does seem sort of incongruous with like the. tone of like call her daddy, which would never stand for something like this. Yeah. So that's what I also thought was shocking because I feel like up until now, Alex Cooper has really become very successful and she's very smart about how she plays things. And she's like very pro. That's why when she had Colton on her show, she got a lot of backlash for it. I feel like she actually really internalized that and like never did something like that again.

Like post. Traders? Post. No, no, no, no. post Cassie. Like when coming out Colton. Yeah. She got a lot of shit for that.

And I feel like she generally doesn't deviate from her sort of like safe, you know, lane. And this is the first time she's ever done something that's like kind of controversial, you know? Yeah. No, I just feel like it's two different mentalities.

One, I'm like call her daddy these conversations. Everyone's like, you know, talking about their trauma and their abusers and everything. Safe space. And it's like you would never platform the sort of people that are doing this to other people. and then we have this show. It's actually just unfortunate

because I don't believe it was intentional. The Huda and the Dakota stuff happened literally last week. I don't think they can afford to can it. So what should they do? So I think putting like the little spin on it, yeah, you're right.

By the way, marketing it is like polarizing. That's not what it was intended to be. But it just so happens that two of the biggest names on there in the last month, both committed egregious crimes. And like the other 14 people are like fine. Oh, I guess Annadalevie's also a criminal. But nobody cares.

on dancing with the stars. Yeah, and it was like white collar crime. And Adelby like stole from a bank so like people don't care, you know? Yeah. Um, no, you're right. They don't. It's a small, it's a, you know, it's getting bigger, but it's a small company relative to like the other ABC and canning it and like literally all the money that they spent on it. It's already been filmed is sort of not an option. So they're just getting creative and I respect that. Yeah. It's one way. So that, um, that's coming to YouTube soon. Are you ready for our next story?

Unwell's really kind of, they've been saying for a while, like, I think when people compare like media companies, they always say like the female version of Barstool, you know? Yeah. And I feel like actually,

Unwell is actually the female version of Barstool. I think for a while. I don't think it's so female oriented. That's, you know, it feels pretty neutral. Maybe it's more female because Call Her Daddy is more female, but like, no, reality TV in general is very feminine. And I feel like so much of what Call Her Daddy does, recently they've really dived into like reality TV pop culture versus like Jimmy Fallon type

shit and that's like exclusively female yeah but it doesn't feel like the female like I think which is good it feels just like when I think about like they they have like a million random YouTube shows barstool with like their people like I don't know their you know stars um save barstool what are all those shows you know like and they do like they put joey camastel like on a bus for a month Like, oh yeah, like Barstool Beach House. Yeah, and like road rules, whatever. And so it's starting to feel similar to that. Which I think is kind of smart because there's been like a,

I feel like for so long they're like, oh, that's a female version of Barstool. And it's like not, you know, I feel like this kind of is. Yeah, yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Three? Three. Yeah. Some content news.

A new Kennedy series has unveiled their star-studded cast. So the Kennedys. And wait. I finished Love Story last night. The Kennedys are getting the crown treatment, and we have some early casting. So Michael Fastbender will be playing Joe Kennedy's senior. And who's Joe Kennedy senior?

JFK's dad? I think so. Okay, I don't really know what he looks like, but let's see. Michael Fastenner. He's the ambitious patriarch and self-made multimillionaire who served as U.S. ambassador to the U.K. from 1938 to 1940. Okay.

Then we have Laura Donnelly as Rose Kennedy. I'm going to assume that's his wife. Like, I don't know what these people look like. but Slay, Mama. Nick Robinson as Joe Kennedy Jr. So that's Joe Kennedy Sr.'s oldest son. Is that JFK's brother? Yeah.

I wonder why he was... Oh, Nick Robinson's a cutie. What do I know him from? Oh, yeah, I love Simon. Then Joshua Melnick is Jack Kennedy. That is JFK. Oh, okay, wait. Oh, he's like a true, like, newbie.

He has like one headshot on IMDB. Oh, but I feel like this is the role of a lifetime. Oh, big time. Because they're comparing it to the crown where it's like very researched. thoughtfully done, more historical, less fiction, but historical fiction. Yeah, I personally need this as I really don't know a lot about the family. Me neither. And I feel like love story piqued an interest in a lot of people in the Kennedys,

although it didn't successfully scratchy itch because it was so bad. I watched a finale last night. Spoiler alert, they die. And what's crazy about the whole story is, and I didn't know this when I was watching it, like, they're plane crashed. Do you know why the plane crashed? He was pilot and they didn't have their co-pilot that day. Yeah, but so what happened?

Oh, mechanically you mean? Yeah. I don't know. Nothing. So he was flying at night. He was an inexperienced pilot. And there's something that can happen when you're driving above the sea at night where you're like rely on the reflection of the ocean to be your light.

It can be extremely disorienting where the night sky and the dark ocean become one. don't even realize that you are not flying straight. You're not flying parallel to the ground. Everything sort of just becomes black to you. And you almost have like a panic attack. Your eyes, like you go cross-eyed. And he was flying at night above the sea with two young girls, like literally by himself. The co-pilot couldn't come.

And he had like a broken leg. And he just like starts going cross-eyed and crash right into the ocean and killed them both on impact and himself, of course. Oh my God. Who is the other person in the plane? Her sister. So the mother. they show the funeral proceedings

and I knew this, the mother ended up suing the Kennedy family for wrongful death and she won. Because it wasn't mechanical or weather. It was true pilot error. Wow. Like he was not capable of flying.

Oh my God. And only like a real, you know, like wealthy, like cool. I could do it, you know? And Constance Zimmer plays their mother. She was really good. And it's, it's,

it's such a crazy story and it was so poorly done. Like it was just really awful. The beginning episodes were kind of good. I don't know what the hell happened. But for me at least, I really don't know a lot. Yeah. About the Kennedy dynasty.

And at the time, like now we think of like the last, we're always talking about like Jack Schlossberg and it's like, okay. That's not, you're always saying that Jack Schoss. No, but I'm saying that's the last remaining. No, RFK. Oh, sure.

And also the Schwarzenegger's. Maria Schreiber. Shriver. Shriver. But there's not like this political dynasty. There's not this like beloved family. Taylor's ex. Connor Kennedy.

They're just like stragglers, like remnants of the family. And we weren't alive at the time. Cowradswell. Right. So we weren't alive at the time. And I think it's so fascinating. And I love, is this being done at Netflix? Oh, I'm not sure.

Oh, yeah. It's Netflix. Yes. Brilliant. Like so brilliant. I would love to know more. Wyatt Russell's playing Charles Lindberg. Who's the pie.

So I guess he's like a big figure in their lives. And Eddie Marston is Jay Edgar Hoover, who's the FBI director. Oh, and what's crazy also about Carolyn and John is when they died, they didn't know that they had died. The family, they were all meeting at Hyannisport, and their plane never made it. So the plane was missing. And like the covers of the newspapers the following days were like, missing, missing.

So it wasn't like, you know, Rip. It was like this sort of mystery at first. Yeah. And then they found the plane. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So crazy story, such a bad show. Damn. Well, this, this sounds good. I'm excited for this. Me too. And like, I feel like since the crown ended, my life has been significantly worse. Yeah. And stupider and just like less vivid and less rich, like, yeah. And just brain rot. And just bad. Yeah. Agreed. They should have continued it. We should watch the crown again. But like, I did. I'll just, I miss her too much, Lizzie.

I watched the first season of the crown Postpartum. Ben was, we watched the heiress, what's that you called? The Empress, yeah, C-C. So good. And he was like, what's more like this? I'm like, I didn't see the crown. Yeah, and he was like, no, I don't know why we stopped it. It's so good. So good. Are you ready for our fourth story?

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You're welcome, code jurt. Our fourth story, Alex Earle, she's doing press for Real Octavis, which lunch today. and she's answering the question of whether or not she would be the Bachelorette. Oh, I didn't know that we were asking that question. Jenna, she was on the today show. Jenna Bish Hager was like saying how, I guess a big question is like, who's going to be the next Bachelorette?

Like, where does the franchise go from here? Do they pluck someone from years of yore? Or like, do they try to go for like a celebrity bachelorette again? They asked her if she would be interested in doing it. I guess I haven't really thought about like what does this mean for the franchise. Yeah, like what should happen next? Do they do another season of Bachelorette? Do they just go to Bachelor?

Do they pick one of Taylor's guys? Do they go into the archives? Maybe they pick the winner like Doug. And do you have you seen Doug and Taylor like flirting on social media? I mean, honestly, based on what I know about her choice in men, actually he would make a terrible bachelor. Yeah. Also, but it's like it seems like they're still flirting. They should be together.

I don't know. So do they go into the archives? Do they pick another celebrity? But anyway, she said no. Obviously. Sorry, you don't get to date. on Brady and then also be the Bachelorette. Like you can, it's one or the other.

No. And it's like again, like she doesn't want to just be with like some rando want to be influencer. Yeah. So I think we need. I don't know. I don't know. The franchise was on its last leg and even though this has been like so much drama, I do feel like it's ultimately been good because we're talking about the bachelor's

for the first time in five years. Yeah. Although I don't know what this means for the future of it. And I don't know if this is a ringing endorsement necessarily for like casting people outside of the franchise. Like maybe. the beauty of it was that it was normies. Yeah, I think it was.

And, like, thoroughly, like, vetted people who don't have much of, like, a public history. Right. So back to... To the drawing board. Back to the drawing board. Anyway, she said, no. And then she was talking about her new show,

how she's little worried. Her family's not media trained. So she has to have that come off. Oh, you know what? I forgot that we have that coming. Yeah. I feel like it'll be a while, though. I know.

I feel like they're filming right now, like the rail launch. They are, they are. Because this is like interesting stuff. Yeah, she's really crushing it. I'm so curious how her skincare line is going to do. Obviously, whenever like a celebrity launch or something, the first drop is huge.

And I'm sure it's sold out already. I don't know if it's out, whatever, like immediate. Because the reception online has been overwhelmingly positive about the products, the ingredients, the launch, yada, yada. But I wonder if like this is going to be like her thing, you know? Yeah, I will say, I also think it's like pretty niche category. You know, acne prone skincare. who loves her and wants to support her, like doesn't need this product,

which I think almost like helps her sort of like, I think niche is good and it's not like everybody just buys it once and then like moves on. Like it can really, I mean, I'm not like very up on acne brands, but I don't feel like there are that many that blend like the modern aesthetic of like, you know, clean skin makeup that are like medicinal, a little bit medicinal, a little bit. A lot of them are like dermatological. Yeah. So prescription, you know, but this is just like over the counter.

I think the fact that it is niche gives her, like, is a good place to start. Me too. And for me, what it feels like is this Gen Z version of proactive, which in our day, oh my God, the commercials, like it was the biggest, baddest thing. And it really worked for people. You didn't need a prescription. I think you'd just like buy it online, like on a catalog, right? Yeah.

It was the biggest thing in the world. I guess like her cleansing bomb. Like I could use that, right? Yeah, it's just like good ingredients. Yeah. Good ingredients, good skin care, real actaicase. Yeah. Better ingredients, better skin care.

Realactivis. They honestly, you could take that one. Alex, free idea. Are you ready for our final story? So soon, yeah. Kylie and Timothy drop into mid beach snaps from relaxing vacation. No, they don't. You don't.

They each posted separately that they're on. What are we in high school? Like, come on. Just you have to let them be Kylie and Timothy. At least they're letting us know. It's actually insane that they've never posted a picture online together. Like, actually grow up. I know.

I wonder why. Like, why couldn't even just post your- And like, it would have been fine if she posted her like sexy beach picks. But then he posted a carousel from the same beach. And it's like they definitely took a million photos together and they had to go out of their way not to post them. And we don't get to see one of them. It's honestly so rude. I am annoyed because I love them.

I love them so much. And it's like you posted Tyga. Correct. Like post Timothy. I'm so upset. Yeah. Where do you think that was? I feel like they love Turks and Caicos.

I agree. I feel like they love Turks and Caicos. I feel like that's where it was. Or maybe the Bahamas. Do you think they're like stormaloo? What was she reading? Oh my God. She was reading House Guest.

I was looking. looking into what she was reading too and then I ended up on like this TikTok where they were like showing all of the books Kylie's ever always sitting next to. She was also reading Evelyn Hugo. Oh, I'm sorry. She's a little late. Like that's so an inspired. A thousand percent. But house guest is an interesting choice. I've read it. It's kind of artsy. Maybe Timothy read for a role in what's like a man in Evelyn Hugo? One of the husbands? It's not like a great note. I'm sorry. Evelyn Hugo's like too commercial for Timothy. He would never. He would never. Well, every Timothy, movie I've seen like I don't like I just want to say right that's why he wouldn't read for

because he only makes bad movies right he only makes like you know non commercially interesting I guess it actually has been a lot of commercial successful wonka uh call me by your name yeah but that was like an indie film but it was but it very successful so it's not about success it's just about like commercial appeal oh dune dune dune is like his big franchise i'm telling you he's a worst taste in in scripts no but like kiley pick the next one okay no but he doesn't like it's just not for us. We just have to be able to be objective and say like,

it's not for us. He has the worst case in scripts for us. For us. Like, he's doing really good job out there. Yeah. She definitely was reading houseguests, like, please, Timothy, even though she wanted to read Coho. Thousand percent. She needs to get one of those, like, fake book covers

where you're like reading porn, but there's like, you know, the Odyssey says it says the Odyssey on the outside. He should play Demon. 1,000%. Actually, he would be a very good demon. Why haven't they made demon copperhead into a movie? I don't know. I feel like once a book gets made into a movie it's like no longer considered like literary. I don't know. I also feel like I've seen that movie before. I think I've seen this film before. And I didn't like the end. Yeah, because you see Hillbilly Elegy. Hillbilly Allergy is very like, it's like a non-fictional version of that of demon. And also.

But demon is so popular. Also, what was that show with Michael Keaton about the... Oh my God. Dope sick. My entire life was changed. Like, I would be a different person sitting right here if I didn't watch that show. Yeah. It taught me everything.

Yeah. So that's why I think Demon's not a movie. Yeah, right. I've watched Dobsick. We don't need both. Yeah. I think I've seen this film before. And I didn't like the ending.

What else? I do think that we should say that Kylie had read. Well, I guess her and Timothy really like playing cards because on her nightstand, like we saw her books. And then somebody realized that she had a deck of cards. And the cards were a picture of Timothy and Kylie. Like each card was from them. I think it was at like the first award show that they went to together for the Bob Dylan movie.

For the David's. No, sorry. American Award show that we saw. And they just had like a cute picture. They didn't walk the carpet or anything, but it was just like a picture of them at the table eating dinner. I feel like it was like the golden globe or something. She had a deck of cards with like that as the picture on the card on the back of the card.

Wow. She should mage. Yeah. Yeah, she should. I think she would like it. She should mage with us. I mean, we're like an elite crew.

It's just so hard to find four people. Like that's the hard part about mahjong. It's like I only have like one friend. No, it's either like I have two people to play with or I have six. Yeah, right. Four is a tough number. Do you think Kylie still listens to the toast? No.

Yeah, she's moved on. Yeah. But I just want to say when that thing was happening, we were like, Kylie, if you listen, like post a picture of your nails, post a picture of a tree. She did it. Should we do it again? See if she still listens.

Kylie, do listen. Post a picture of a book. Of you and Timothy. No, what did you say? A book. A book. That's a good one. She's going to be like very low key.

have to troll her TikTok, I'll keep an eye on Instagram. Yeah, I feel like it'll be Instagram stories because she knows that you don't participate on TikTok. Kylie, post on your stories what you're currently reading if you're still a toaster. Or like any sort, if there is a book in Kylie's stories, it could be like a picture of a shelf. Like, that's how she did with nails. It was like an old, a new release and she like showed her nails.

Chloe also had a toast era, although I don't believe she currently listens. No. Who did I recently find out as a toaster? Oh, I told you. Madison LaCroix. People DM me being like, oh my God, I can't believe. Yeah, I'm like, I'll get with the program.

But see, I was happy to hear about Madison LaCoy because even if I wanted you, we couldn't think of something negative to say about her. No, I love her so much. That means the world to me. But when somebody lets me know that they listen and like sometimes I have thoughts like that are not overwhelmingly positive about them, it does put me in a hard spot.

Yes, but I do think like knowing that they're a toaster just makes me like genuinely feel better about better better than their sense of judgment, you know? Yeah. Ultimately, I'm committed to the craft, and I'm going to say what I'm going to say. I'm going to say it. Mention it at all.

So I do feel like today was very summer house heavy. I would feel comfortable moving to your toaster still tomorrow. I feel very comfortable with that. And that's our show, you guys. Our first transatlantic. Thank you so much for listening to the Tustlinning Morning Show where we deliver the fast-in-morny through Friday. So if you're watching us on YouTube,

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